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Speaker 1: talking about sex doesn't mean I'm doing sex with these people.

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00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: And um, yeah, it just it's a job, you know,

427
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 1: And um, I still am going to relate to these people.

428
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm still going to throw in little tidbits of my

429
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 1: past life and stuff like that. So nothing really changed

430
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: except I'm not a single woman, and I won't be

431
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: able to like, let's say, if I'm interviewing you and

432
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: you're single, I'll be like, yeah, me too. I'll be like, oh, well,

433
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: I'm in a relationship right now. But that's not going

434
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: to take away from anything. I don't think. Do you

435
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: feel like, with your experience in the dating world and

436
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: the environment that you're in, that you're kind of desensitized

437
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 1: to two stories nowadays? No, not at all. I think

438
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: that I've heard a lot of different stories, you know.

439
00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm actually a listener of quote unquote sex podcasts.

440
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: The podcast that gave me the idea for my podcast

441
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: is called sex Um. It's called Guys the Funk, and

442
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's a podcast were two comedians, Christina Hutchinson

443
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: and Corin Fisher, their New York comedians. They bring on

444
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: different people, whether it's a psychologist or another comedian friend

445
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: and they interview them. And obviously it's funny if there's

446
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: their comedians, there's other comedians that are on there. But

447
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: it's really informative as well. So I'm always kind of

448
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: like listening about like sexual education and like dating and

449
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: keeping myself up to date with these types of things.

450
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: I do not consider myself any type of expert um

451
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: by any means, And I'm not I'm not saying like, oh,

452
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: I listened to all these podcasts so I'm Joe smart. No, no, no, no,

453
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, like, um, I listened to a

454
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: lot of different stories, and I try to kind of

455
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: keep myself educated on you know, the new what's new

456
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: in dating and relationships and sexual education, and so when

457
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: I hear stories, I think sometimes like I become descentral tized,

458
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: but I really haven't, you know. I talked to Ian

459
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: mcaul the other day and boom me through throughout how

460
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: he was having sex with other other men's wives because

461
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: they asked him too, And I'm just like, wha, oh, yeah,

462
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: I know that's the thing. But it's still when you

463
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: hear it, it never gets less shocking. You're like, oh, yeah, yeah,

464
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: that's the thing you forgot. What's the wildest thing you've

465
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: ever done? The last thing I've ever done? That's a

466
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: switch through the memories here. One question I asked some

467
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: of the guests I've had so far is like, you know,

468
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: where's the craziest place in public that you've had sex?

469
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: And I realized with myself, like I haven't even really

470
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: had sex in like a crazy public place or anything.

471
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: Um wildest thing, you know, you know, it's not super crazy,

472
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: But I went to a sex club one time, and

473
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: I didn't really know what I was getting myself into.

474
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: I just moved out of southern California as pretty knew

475
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: kind of like um nor cal kind of red nicky.

476
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: Still like still haven't Like I wasn't really into the

477
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: Orange County culture or anything like that. And a brand

478
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: new friend, and I made said, hey, come to this party,

479
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: and that's all he said. He just said, dress sexy.

480
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: And I thought that was weird. You know, Okay, don't

481
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: I dress sexy when I go out anyway? And he's like,

482
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: look as dressed as sexy as you can, and you'll

483
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: still be the most dressed person. I'm the most overdressed person.

484
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, well, that's weird. But I

485
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: didn't know what he meant. And I show up to

486
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: this warehouse and he walks me inside and there's just

487
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: naked people, you know, half naked people. There's rooms upstairs

488
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: where people are having sex. And I'm just like, oh,

489
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: this is not the party I expected. And that just

490
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: being there was an experience in itself, and now it's

491
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: pretty wild. That is crazy. I have a I have

492
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: a good buddy of mine that I don't know if

493
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: you've heard of this place, but he would, you'd be

494
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: a frequent visitor of two places in this world, Las

495
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: Vegas and Amsterdam and uh. And he told me about

496
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: a place that he would frequently visit called the Green

497
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: Door and the Green Doors in in Las Vegas, and

498
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: basically it's a it's a club kind of like how

499
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: you described the warehouse where you'll go in and people

500
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: men and women will watch other people have sex. They Yeah,

501
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: I've actually heard of that. I was talking. I was

502
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: at the h the uf c P. I actually was

503
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: getting some work on my shoulder. Um, we were just

504
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: kind of chopping it up in the rehab the center,

505
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: and I don't know how it got brought up, you know,

506
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm always talking about interesting things, so

507
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: I might have had something to do with it. But

508
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: they brought up the Green Door, and I, you know,

509
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: I don't live there, but I travel out there periodically.

510
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, is that really a thing or

511
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: is it a myth? And everyone was like, no, it's

512
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: a thing. And also you've been there, Like no, I'm like, okay,

513
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: well until I know someone up actually been there, you know,

514
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: because how do you know? Right? That's exactly so. Yeah,

515
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: I've heard of that. Fox Sports Radio has the best

516
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,640
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519
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: Have you been to Amsterdam? I have not. I would

520
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: love to go sometimes, you know, I went. I went

521
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: a year ago to go visit a buddy of mine

522
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: who was celebrating his fortieth birthday and he he lives

523
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: out in Europe, but was not able to visit us

524
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: when we were in Amsterdam. So another buddy of mine

525
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: who was out there already, he was visiting some some

526
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: family in Croatia. Um I was in France for middles

527
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: in Paris. We just said, hey, let's let's meet up

528
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: and let's go to Amsterdam. So we spent three days

529
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: in Amsterdam. And my buddy's loose. He's very loose, he's

530
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: very open. He just kind of does kind of goes

531
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: to the flow. And I don't want to say I'm

532
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: Morgan's servative, but I guess I'm a little more cautious. Um.

533
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: But we both air on the set of cautions. So

534
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: it's not like for Cavalier with anything. But he's he's

535
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: definitely an influence for me as much as I'm an

536
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: influence for him. But it takes one to get the

537
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: other one going. Um. But he's definitely a guy that

538
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: likes to to dab a little bit. And uh, he's

539
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: a big, big beer guy. So you know, when we

540
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: got to Amsterdam, we were trying out like a bunch

541
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: of different beers and going to a few different places.

542
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: But um, when we were renting out airbnb s or hostiles.

543
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 1: The hostile that he actually rented out for us was

544
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: on the on the cusp of the red light district,

545
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: So we had no idea. He didn't know, I didn't know,

546
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: and you know, you hear stories about the red light district.

547
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: And then the first night that we got there, we

548
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: walked around and and I could not, like, you know,

549
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: being in Los Angeles, for being in Orange County, or

550
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: being in southern California for that matter, You're around beautiful

551
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: people all the time, women, men, whoever it may be,

552
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: with your preference. But I was completely floored by the

553
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: way that these women look because they were like, there's

554
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: no such thing as attended, my opinion, but goddamn, everyone

555
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: looked like a nine, a nine and a half at

556
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: nine point nine. It was absolutely wild. And a couple

557
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: of the nights that we were there, it started raining

558
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: a little bit, and how everyone was in their little

559
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to say shack, but they're obviously display windows.

560
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: God forbid you got underneath the awning and try to

561
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: cover yourself from the rain because they be banging on

562
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: the window and like telling you get the funk out

563
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: of the way, and like move and move and move,

564
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: and yeah, that's wild. It's like a straight up business

565
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: and it is you know, from night today it is

566
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: completely different. But um, you ever get the chance to

567
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: to head out there, I would deathly recommend to, uh

568
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: to soak up as much as you can with Amsterdam

569
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: because the scene is great all the way around from

570
00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: sixty degrees. So that's awesome. I thought in Germany in

571
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: Hamburg and there was this place called the Rooper Bob

572
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: and we went out drinking after my fight. It was

573
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: a really good fight and we're all happy and on

574
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: my coaches and you know, we were told we didn't

575
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: see much, um, but we were told that like women

576
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to go down certain streets and those streets

577
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: were where prostitutes were, and like the for some reason,

578
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: like the men that were buying the prostitutes didn't want

579
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: to see regular women or something like that. And I

580
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: was like, all right, interesting, like alright, couch of different countries,

581
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: like different strokes for different countries, you know, but uh, yeah,

582
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: to reach their own that's interesting. Now, different parts of

583
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: Europe have you been to or is it just you've

584
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: been to Hamburg and that's it. I've do uh seven

585
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 1: different countries in Europe, but not well not I went

586
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: to seven different countries in Europe this past year for

587
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: a military tour. But that was like like wham bamdbanking

588
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: man like fly in, like teach to the troops from

589
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: the mats to do some signings, watched the fights with them,

590
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: and then boom here to the next country. So it

591
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: was like Norway, Turkey, Greece, Italy, Romania, Kosovo, oh Man

592
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: one more. Um, I'm forgetting one Romania anyway. But they

593
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: were all great places, but I didn't get it was like,

594
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, we had a what's it called, like somebody

595
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: kind of like on us the whole time, like watching

596
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: a babysitter basically like a military babysitter. So we didn't

597
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: really get to see the city or anything like that. Um,

598
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: but I could tell that certain countries, I mean, like

599
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, probably won't be going back to Kosovo anytime

600
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: so in the party, but I would love to go

601
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: back to Greece, in Italy and even Turkey was pretty awesome.

602
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: Have you been to any of the Asian markets? At all, China, Japan, Philippines,

603
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: nothing like that. Actually, know what about let's go back

604
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: a little bit because I know you said something interesting

605
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: with the way that your experience has been. But now

606
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: you're you're currently in the most uh, You're in the

607
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: healthiest relationship you've ever been in. Um. What makes that

608
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: relationship healthy? I'd say like two things. Communication and the

609
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: ability to put your ego aside. And you know that

610
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: that's gonna need to take place on both sides. If

611
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: you have one side doing that, then it's just a

612
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: dominant the missive type relationship where one person probably always

613
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: but you know, taking one for the team, biting their

614
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: lip or you know whatever. UM. And then if you

615
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: have both, then that's where a really good symbiotic relationship happens,

616
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: where if something comes up, some kind of argument, some

617
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: kind of dispute, you know, you can talk about it

618
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: and communicate and both put your ego aside. Because me,

619
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: one of my biggest downfalls that I'm quick to get angry,

620
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: quick to defend myself, and and that's not good because

621
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: especially with your partner, they obviously love you or you know,

622
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: you know, if you're not into at that stage, what

623
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: they care about you, and they want the best. So

624
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: if you have that ability to just stay calm not

625
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: get heated, which is something I'm personally just now. You know,

626
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: it's not like all my relationships in the past were

627
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: bad because of them. I'm taking a lot of responsibility

628
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: as well. Take me a long time to self reflect

629
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: and realize that, you know, a lot of the things

630
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: in my life that have gone wrong most likely were

631
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: my own fault. And so now that I have that

632
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: kind of like newfound mindset, I've met a partner who

633
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: also has that mindset, and I'm just like, oh, thank you, Bever,

634
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: Jerry's was fine, little like because I just was tired

635
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: of the fighting and tired of the nonsense. And you know,

636
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm thirty two, so young in life, maybe

637
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: old sort of a fighter, but I'm tool for that ship,

638
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: that's for sure. How old do you think you'll be

639
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: when you retire. I've definitely got another solid, you know,

640
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: three to five years, and me, I don't think i'll

641
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: be you know, punching faces at forty. But you never know.

642
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: I've never had surgery, never had any major injuries. I've

643
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: had to pull out of two fights. Unfortunately, Um I

644
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: like had a torn mc L and then I had

645
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: a torrent recently the last year, I did a an

646
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: armspin wrestling move and toward my upper pack and shoulder area.

647
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: But no surgeries. I got stem cells and any other

648
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: one just needed a lot of rehab. So you know,

649
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: from fifteen years old wrestling on a high school team,

650
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: college wrestling to professional fighting, that's pretty good if those

651
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: are the only major injuries and still no surgeries. So

652
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, I can see myself at most

653
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: another five years. But I've been in the sport for

654
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: quite a while and I'm feeling really good now. Like

655
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: I said, with my new found kind of mindset, nothing

656
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: physically has changed. It's my mindset. But as we don't

657
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: know for our eight percent mental or seventy year or

658
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: whatever I say. Right, So, when you can like hone

659
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: in on your on your mental game and your emotional game,

660
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: I think especially for women, that's when you really start

661
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: to see, you know, everything I said before synergy where

662
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: everything starts to come together, because you can be the

663
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: best athlete physically, but if your mind's not right, you're

664
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: not going to go far at all. And this past

665
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: here a lot of things have changed for me mentally,

666
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: and so now I can't wait to start, you know,

667
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: fighting um consistently because you know my mind's right and

668
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: you know, you know I am in the later stages

669
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: of my career. So it's like, all right, it's now

670
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: we're never bit a vote. Yeah, you said back when

671
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: you first started wrestling that it was like a drug,

672
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: it was a rush. Um. Does it feel the same

673
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: for you now when you get into the cage? Oh?

674
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: Even more so. Wrestling was great, don't get me wrong,

675
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: like teammates and and all that, and you know all

676
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: you know, ashly Evan Smith's on Evan Smith in the hole.

677
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: But with fighting, like, you'll never understand the amazing feeling

678
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: it is to fight on a professional level until you've

679
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: been backstage in your hands are apped, until you've made

680
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: that walk through the tunnel and here at the crowd

681
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: sheering and the stand shaking, until you've walked out and

682
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: the lights are shining and you're the fall you pick

683
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: is playing full blast in the arena and it's like,

684
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I mean, I don't know if all

685
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: the listeners have gotten high, but you're kind of high.

686
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: It's just like there's kind of like feeling of like

687
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: serenity but also like your heart is racing as fast

688
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: as it can go, and so it's serene, but it's

689
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: also scary as sucking hell, and that's adrenaline, you know.

690
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: So you get to the cage and you're scared, but

691
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: you're but you're excited and and then you start fighting.

692
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: You know, for me, all that goes away as soon

693
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: as the first punch is thrown. And then I kind

694
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: of think into that you know, the zone or whatever

695
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: you want to you know, um that that that's comfortable, familiar,

696
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, you know kind of treating that I do

697
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: every single day, day and day out for years and

698
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: years and years. So it's hard to explain, but you know,

699
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: I'm going to be heartbroken the day I quote on

700
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: foot like hang up my globes or retire or whatever,

701
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: because yeah, I would love to go into media, whether

702
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: it's on camera or podcasting and all these other different

703
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: things on doing movies now small roles. Um, it's never

704
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna be like fiving. Yeah, I remember, it wasn't fortunate

705
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: like you to to compete at the professional level, but

706
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: I I the aspirations of of competing at the professional

707
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: level as a football player, and so I grew up

708
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: in a small town and went to an extremely small

709
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: high school. I think like the graduating class that I

710
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 1: was in was like seventy two kids, but oh wow,

711
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: you beat me. Yeah, I felt like it was a

712
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: big fish in a small pond. But I didn't get

713
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: the type of exposure that that kids do now with

714
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: social media and the different networks covering high school sports.

715
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: So I had to go to a junior college to

716
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: get any kind of opportunity to get any kind of

717
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: looks and so kind of going back to you and

718
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: having your your hands wrapped. I was always nervous. It

719
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: didn't matter, Like I felt like when I compete at

720
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: the high school level, I was the best player in

721
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: the field. And then when I got to the college level,

722
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: I felt like I was still not the best, but

723
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: I knew like I was going up against the best.

724
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: So I had to be like an a a level

725
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: all the time. And you know, despite your wearing pads

726
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: in a helmet and having speed or or muscle or whatever,

727
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: like I was always I was always nervous, Like getting

728
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: at islands to the field, you hear the crowd, you

729
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: know what's at stake. You see someone that's barreling down

730
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: on you that's like six two or six three and

731
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: two pounds. But then after I absorbed the first hit,

732
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: then it's game on. It's like everything just gets sucked

733
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: into that vacuum and then you get focused like a

734
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: like a horse going down the track. You know, you

735
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: have those those blinders on. You just think about, this

736
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: is my objective. And that was the I know you're

737
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: not there now, but for me, that has always stuck

738
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: in me because I always have flashbacks to certain plays. Well,

739
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: there was a big hit, a good catch, a nice tackle,

740
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: and but that engagement of competing, because that's the ultimate

741
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: testament to not only you as an individual, but the

742
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: work and the prep and the training that you and

743
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: your camp put in. And and I was like that

744
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: on the football field. And you know they always say

745
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: that practices should be harder than the games, and and

746
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: they certainly were. And you know, once that goes from you, like,

747
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: you can never get that kind of a rush back.

748
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: And so I yeah, I mean you you said, you know,

749
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: three or four or five years away from retiring, it's

750
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: it's great that you know that that's there. And at

751
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: the same time, you had that sense of urgency, not

752
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: pressured to make sure you put your foot on the

753
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: gas now and not and not hold anything back because

754
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: you never know when that last fight is going to

755
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: be your last fight. Yeah, they're right, and you know,

756
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not happy with my my record. I'm sixing

757
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: for it right now, and I'm definitely not happy with

758
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: the amount of fights I fight per year. And it

759
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: seems like as soon as I get my shipped together,

760
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: something happens. And you know, COVID nineteen is a perfect

761
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: example of how like I said, this year with my

762
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: mentality being on point, and then like you know, I'm

763
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: literally in London about to fight and they tell me

764
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: to come home and then yeah, so it's just like

765
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: I feel like life's been kind of asshole to me

766
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: in in a few ways. But at the same time,

767
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: I have to be extremely grateful for the opportunities that

768
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: I have. Like, obviously I will fight it, and you know,

769
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm right now it's tentative end of July, but with

770
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: everything going on, COVID still it's kind of up in

771
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: the air. But you know, yeah, it's pedals in the

772
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: metal time. It's time to focus in the only thing

773
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: that matters to me is winning my fight, in securing

774
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: my future. You mentioned July what happens, if what happens,

775
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: if you fight on July nine, Uh, then that would

776
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: be awesome. But I do I feel like fortunately, I'm

777
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: I do very very well under pressure. So you know,

778
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: July nine is my birthday and I happen to do.

779
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: It's your birthday too, So if I was to fight,

780
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: I think that would just be one more you know,

781
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: not a lot of pressure, but just you know, one

782
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: more thing that would would make it. Um, you know,

783
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: I would want to win for one more reason, right,

784
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: and so yeah, bring it on. I would fight on

785
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: my birthday. It would fight on Christmas. I don't care,

786
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: no kidding, right, Yeah, It's it's funny we we share

787
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: the same birthday, July nine. We also share it with

788
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: a couple other people. One of them is Tom Hanks,

789
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: which is our which is the one that we're proud of.

790
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: The other one's O J sibsence. So it's kind kind

791
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: of wild, right, get thee from from both ends with

792
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: that kind of bipolar dynamic with the birthdate. Um, do

793
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 1: you haven't regret? Do you have any regrets as a fighter?

794
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: Like anything? That you have or haven't done that you

795
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: just like eats at you internally as a fighter. Yeah, no,

796
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: not really. I used to a couple of years ago,

797
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: I had this mentality. I don't know what you would

798
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: call it, but me and Rhonda Rousey were on the

799
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: same amateur card in Las Vegas, and then, you know,

800
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: I look at my career and then look at her career,

801
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: and so I was kind of like comparing myself to her,

802
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: you know, like, damn, you know, how come I couldn't

803
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: have done this or this or this or this? But

804
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: like I wiped all that a way, because you know,

805
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: you can never compare yourself to someone Else's a journey, right.

806
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people were helping her. I

807
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: know how many people weren't helping me. So instead of

808
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: looking at her life and comparing my life and going, oh,

809
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: I could have could have could have look at my

810
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: own life, and instead of comparing myself to someone else,

811
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: I think of that little girl in Yukaiah who little

812
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: like dumpy girl just started wrestling and then now here

813
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 1: I am. So that's a way better comparison. You start

814
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: feeling a lot better about yourself, and it's a positive mindset.

815
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: So I don't regret anything because there's no there's no

816
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: no benefits in regrets. Right, you can learn lessons and

817
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: you can say, you know what, I see what I did.

818
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: There molple smartists and I've got plenty of those, But

819
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: I have no regrets, absolutely not one. Well that being said,

820
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: do you think why do you think people were helping

821
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: her and not helping you? Um, I don't know, you know,

822
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean she had maybe a different, um family financial situation,

823
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, Um, I have no parents, had no you know,

824
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: I had to put myself through college and um we

825
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: were wouldn't have the most money and when I was

826
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: growing up as a kid, and so I've take take

827
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: care of myself completely financially, especially since you know college,

828
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 1: um and even in my kind of in my high

829
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: school years as well. So I mean that could have

830
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: been a factor, you know what I mean. She made

831
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: it to the Olympic team before she got into in

832
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: the may, so she had that kind of notoriety behind her.

833
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: And when people hear that, they want to help someone

834
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: because they keep potential and rightfully, so, um, I just

835
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: kind of had a little bit of wrestling background and

836
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: was tenacious, so it doesn't really matter, but there's there's

837
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: definitely people have their own paths in different journeys and

838
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: and I'm I think I never once. I think the

839
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: only time I ever said anything bad about Rhonda was

840
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: when she was a real cour sport to Misia Tate,

841
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: just because you know, I'm not saying I'm the best

842
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: role model, um, but I mean shake, shake the woman's hand,

843
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, don't flip her off

844
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: in the cave either, though I don't know. It was

845
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: just you know, And now she's in w w E,

846
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: and I think that's smart. I think she made a

847
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: great move. We can't fight forever, and that's you know,

848
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: her body probably thinks they're not saying it's easy over there,

849
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: but I think she'll probably have a lot more longevity

850
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: um during WWE than than the A. Do you think

851
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: she's a fraud fraud in what sense? Well, I think

852
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: the I think the perception is is that when she

853
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: got the notary that she did through the UFC, she

854
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: wasn't fighting the best the best, and you know, she

855
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: didn't fight Cyborg and not until Holly Holm got the

856
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: better herd did she suffered defeat. And that was when

857
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: people felt like she finally competed against someone that was

858
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: to her level. Um, and then no, definitely not no.

859
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: I mean if you're if you're talking in terms of

860
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: competition level, I think she's not fraud. She she went

861
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: out there, she did her things, She won fights. The

862
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: great thing about en them a compared to w w

863
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: E Z No, it's not stage. She went in there

864
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: and she thought those girls that she won, and she

865
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: beat them. She won. Whether it was by seventeen armbar

866
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, or or whatever, doesn't, it doesn't matter. She

867
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: beat those girls. Um, you know, I don't. I don't

868
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: think that she you know, I don't think she was

869
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: going to be side works and I don't obviously you know,

870
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 1: Holly took her out and all that. But I would

871
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: I definite wouldn't call her a fraud. I know she

872
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: also gets the last fruit me because she went over

873
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: to w w E. But why, you know, why would

874
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: you take someone's career choice apart when the sport that

875
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: we do is so physically taxing on her body and

876
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: her brain? You know, I mean the girl, the girl

877
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: probably just doesn't want to have fergusons when she's older.

878
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: You know, it takes a toll on us and so, um,

879
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think she's a fraud. I think

880
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: there's definitely things she could have done better, um once

881
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: she was in the spotlight. But we've all made mistakes, right,

882
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: you have no doubt about it. Uh. Speaking of mistakes,

883
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: we're trying to make any on social media. But you know,

884
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: for the listeners out there that do want to follow

885
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: you your journey, things that you do and maybe even

886
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: dip into the dark side of your podcast, Um, where

887
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: can they find you on social media? Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, whatever? Maybe? Yeah,

888
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: my personal page is Ashley m m A and Ashley

889
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: A s h L E. M m A. And my podcast,

890
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: which I know you are all dying to listen to

891
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: because you all are probably naughty. Sex and Violence with

892
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: Rebel Girls kind of a long name. It's all spelt

893
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: out Sex and Violence with Rebel Girl. And that's a

894
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: that that Instagram account has a link to the podcast

895
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: in the bio so you can clip there. But we're

896
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: also on Apple, on Spotify already, um, and a couple

897
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: other major ones we're working on, you know, being on

898
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: all the major platforms. But pretty proud of myself were

899
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: only having two episodes and recording a third one tonight, nice. Nice. Now,

900
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: is that your goal to do something at least once

901
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: a week or do some thing maybe four or five

902
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: times a month, like, what's your what's your idea behind it? Now?

903
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: Since the since we still got the coronavirus, the goal

904
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: definitely set you off. The goal definitely is I'd say

905
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: two we could be ideal, just because I feel like

906
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: there are so many interesting stories out there, but for sure,

907
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: what one a week as as long as I'm you know,

908
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: competing in m M A. Because as we all know,

909
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: you can be a jack of all trades and a

910
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: master of none, and that's not what I want to do.

911
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: My first goal, person of foremost will always be my

912
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: training and my fight. So, you know, unfortunately, let's say

913
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: I have a fight books in late July, you know,

914
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: not unfortunately for me, but unfortunate, let's say for the listeners,

915
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: I won't be able to put out you know, like

916
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom boom. So I'm going to try.

917
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,959
Speaker 1: You know, my producer, Rick Lee and I have talked

918
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: about kind of stacking the episodes, you know, doing a

919
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: couple back to back episodes and then releasing them, um

920
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: weekly if that makes sense, um, and so, so that's

921
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: the goal right now, always have one a week. But

922
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: in the future, let's say, you know, in a couple

923
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: of years, when these podcast is making a baizalion dollars

924
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: and I'm not fighting, then maybe maybe more two or three,

925
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: who knows, But I know that for for me personally,

926
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,959
Speaker 1: the podcast that I love to listen to, I listen

927
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: to it weekly and then I'm like, oh man, I

928
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: wish there was another episode, you know, I look forward

929
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: to it every week and I'm just like, why can't

930
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: there be a mid week episode? Right? That's exactly yeah,

931
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: you know what, And just kind of a little little

932
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: tip for you with best practices, you know, more often

933
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: than not, like we've found, like Ben and I have

934
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: found really good success on releasing our podcast at six

935
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning Pacific nine o'clock Eastern, because that's

936
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: the highest volume that we've received for for downloads each

937
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: and every day. So um, really, yeah, it's it's it's

938
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: a nice thing, but you also have to stay consistent

939
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: and true to how you release these things because our audience,

940
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, whether they like us, hate us, love us,

941
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: whatever it may be there always at that time, consistently

942
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: the expectations have been set. And so once we set those,

943
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 1: people know, hey, this is what these guys are doing,

944
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: and it becomes available and like accessible. That's that's the

945
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: biggest thing too, is if if you're not accessible on

946
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: multiple platforms, then you kind of ship out of luck.

947
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the fortunate thing that we have

948
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: behind I Heart Radio and and Fox Sports Radio and

949
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: Apple iTunes and things that nature. So, um, you know,

950
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: power the cell phone or if you're on a PC

951
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: or Mac whatever it may be. If if you've got

952
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: a links and that sucker out and make sure you

953
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: tag it on Twitter and Instagram and anything else that

954
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: you're using for for connecting with the masses. Yeah, thank

955
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: you for the chip. I agree, and I think that

956
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: it is something that you can say across the board

957
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: that consistency is key, right, whether it's your podcast, your training,

958
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: or your relationships and all that. Yeah, no doubt about it. Um. Actually,

959
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: I know I could talk to you prior for hours,

960
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: but I know I don't have that much time that

961
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: I can dedicate to you because you've got to do

962
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: I training yourself, and uh, I'm got a fun filled day.

963
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: But listen, we'd love to have you back on the

964
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: on the show. Um, and you know I'd love to

965
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: come back. Yeah, So we'd love to to bring you back.

966
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: And if you ever need to, if you need to

967
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: drag me or the big guy Ben on over to

968
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: the dark side of what you guys do, please feel

969
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: free to to send out send out an invite. I

970
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: know I could drag the big guy along. So yeah. Honestly,

971
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: I was thinking very small minded with the podcast, and

972
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: Rick Lee, the producer, our mutual friend, was the one

973
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: that was like, look, let's think you know, well, let's

974
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: not think big peanuts, let's think big picture. And I'm like,

975
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: what do you mean? And He's like, right now we're

976
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: interviewing m M A fighters, but what if this podcast

977
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: takes off? Why not musicians and actors? And I'm like, yeah,

978
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: I would love that. So, UM, I think we're hopefully

979
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: let me get a few more episodes, you know on

980
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: the books and the books, and um, I would love

981
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: to have you and and Ben on it. That would

982
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: be I think you guys have a really good dichotomy.

983
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: I listened to your podcast, um, the one you sent me,

984
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: and you guys are just kind of poking fun at

985
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: each other. And I love that relationship that you know,

986
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: you guys have, so I would love to have you

987
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: guys on Saturday. Yeah. It's uh, it's definitely what they

988
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: call like a relationship, but it's uh, it's it's in progress.

989
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: It's constantly evolving and developing and at times, uh, it's

990
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: kind of collapsing. But you know, we we've worked together

991
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: for a while and you know, I think I think

992
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: we can tell you know, that's that's the kind of

993
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: relationship we've had. So actually, like I, like I said

994
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: when we first talked, um pleasure obviously connecting, but more importantly,

995
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: best luck to you and uh, I definitely look forward

996
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: to to talking to you in the future and connecting

997
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: down the road. Thank you so much for having me

998
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: on and talk to you guys soon.