WEBVTT - We Need More Sam Picco!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bechler Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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<v Speaker 1>and I and we are here with Sam Pee from

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor Paradise. Sam, Welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you good that we're excited to have you?

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<v Speaker 2>You are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just let you and Serena get into it because

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<v Speaker 1>we have two Canadians on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so I am a bad Canadian girl and I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't watch Bachelor in Paradise Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>So where in Canada are you from?

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<v Speaker 2>So? I am from Saint John's, Newfoundland, Okay, Easterly Point

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<v Speaker 2>actually North America, and I actually live on a rock.

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot get here unless you fly or get a

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<v Speaker 2>boat here.

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<v Speaker 3>Your accent isn't that strong?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I know every single time I meet people that

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<v Speaker 2>are not from New Zealand or like, where's your accent?

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly wish I had more of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because some people from Newfoundland do have such a

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<v Speaker 3>strong accent. You have a little bit, but it's like

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<v Speaker 3>not that bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, It's like when I do hard and power,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like why yeah, yeah, that's like literally the only

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<v Speaker 2>like East Coast accent that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have, and what's life like? What is life like

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<v Speaker 1>living on a rock? Also, have you guys seen the

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<v Speaker 1>you've watched Peaky Blinders. Have you ever seen Peaky Blinders?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think the last season. Isn't he in Newfoundland

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<v Speaker 1>in the last season.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't watch the last I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, okay, but yeah, what's life like on around?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? I'll try and describe it as best I can.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like we have a lot of like what's called

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<v Speaker 2>jellybean row So it's all these like row houses that

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<v Speaker 2>are like beautiful colors and all these like tiny winding streets,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has a very European feel. So it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>like you feel like you're you're somewhere in Europe when

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<v Speaker 2>you come here. And we have such a large culture

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<v Speaker 2>of food and music. There's so much talent here, and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody is connected in some weird way. So it's just

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<v Speaker 2>there's five hundred thousand of us in total in this

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<v Speaker 2>general general area where I am, like the city, there's

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<v Speaker 2>about one hundred and fifty thousand. Every time I get

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<v Speaker 2>down with these numbers, someone comes for me. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>very close knit. It's very small, you know, It's like

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<v Speaker 2>help your neighbor type thing, but everywhere. So it's so

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<v Speaker 2>close knit and so fun, and the night life is

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<v Speaker 2>so lively. It's just such such a unique, a unique place.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah anytime.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't been to these states of Canada, but I

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<v Speaker 4>have a few friends that have like road tripped it,

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<v Speaker 4>and they always describe it as like it's so vibrant,

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<v Speaker 4>but it still feels like a small town. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>like there's such amazing energy and it's like so scenic

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<v Speaker 4>and apparently the real estate is like really cheap and Halifax, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and on these cos So I really want to go,

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<v Speaker 4>but I have friends that will send me houses, being

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<v Speaker 4>like we should just all pick up up and moved

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<v Speaker 4>to the east coast of Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if we drove there from Canada or from Toronto,

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<v Speaker 1>how long would that take?

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<v Speaker 3>Like a day or two?

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<v Speaker 2>It's like maybe, like this is gonna be.

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<v Speaker 4>Bad, depends where five days, four days, maybe back maybe

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<v Speaker 4>to Newfoundland.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, because it's a little higher. Maybe you're talking to

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<v Speaker 3>two people who don't know geography. Right now, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think by Land, Canada is the largest country in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>We're up there, We're up there. Wait, Toronto to Newfinland, driving.

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<v Speaker 1>Distance five days seems excessive, but I mean you could

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<v Speaker 1>be right. Okay, so as it schooling in this, let's talk.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So it's a thirty hour drive from Toronto to Newfoundland.

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<v Speaker 4>So you could do it in five days. No one's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna do it two to three days, two days.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sam, let's talk about little bit about your experience

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<v Speaker 1>on Bachelor in Paradise, Canada for our listeners who may

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<v Speaker 1>not have watched, Like, I just kind of like your

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<v Speaker 1>storyline and what really went down?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how did you get on? And like give us

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<v Speaker 3>the spark notes of your time there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I.

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<v Speaker 2>Got like a I got a call and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>someone said do you want to do this? And I've

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<v Speaker 2>been like, where have you been? I have been waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for this phone call? What have taken you so long?

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<v Speaker 3>They happy at your number?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you apply through the gram? Through the girl?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And then another another show that I was on before

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<v Speaker 2>that one I think kind of put me on the map.

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<v Speaker 1>What show is that I was on?

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<v Speaker 2>Big Brother?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've got that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've watched a few seasons. It's actually like very good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So how long did you last in that show, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I was first injurance. So I lasted forty one days,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I want an a to aage. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to POV. I got the Showman, so I was

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<v Speaker 2>on Slot for two weeks. I did it all. I

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<v Speaker 2>had the whole Big Brother experience and it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think from that it kind of put me

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<v Speaker 2>on the map. And then I got the call for

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<v Speaker 2>Bachelor in Paradise, Canada, and I was so excited. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize I was going to be first on the beach,

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<v Speaker 2>not very first person, but at day one, which was

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<v Speaker 2>so exciting. I got to meet so many incredible people

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<v Speaker 2>before we get into the people my particular experience, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I went there with an open mind and

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<v Speaker 2>an open heart, and I fell for this guy, Cole,

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<v Speaker 2>who was actually on Survivor. It was his first time

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<v Speaker 2>in the Bachelor world. So we hit it off like

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<v Speaker 2>day one and I ended up in a love triangle actually,

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<v Speaker 2>which kind of just lasted the entire season. Some people

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<v Speaker 2>would say I was the villain of the season. Some

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<v Speaker 2>people would say I was the sweet part of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people would say I was the comedian of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was a well rounded contestant, let's just say that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I learned a lot about myself and kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going for what I want and not being

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<v Speaker 2>like one of two. And it was just such an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing experience. And I think coming out of that wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to be better and working on things, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>the best part of it, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>So did you end up with either of the guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, obviously not well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, no, no, but I met like short, short term.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously I know you're not with any of them now,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, how did it end for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, it was like kind of dramatic. You know. Cole

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<v Speaker 2>had enough of the I think the dramatics of it all,

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<v Speaker 2>and he left Paradise and I stuck around for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days after actually because I met my now

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<v Speaker 2>great friend Maryland. So I managed to find a best

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<v Speaker 2>to you along the way and we left together. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Cole was like, I can't do this, this

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<v Speaker 2>is not the environment. I'm not ready, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not in the mindset to like come here and fall

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<v Speaker 2>in love. And we've chatted a little bit after and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he said, you know, I'm you know, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't give you what you really deserve. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>really in that mindset in that environment to like go there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get that. I get that. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you got to be really vulnerable on these shows,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you're not willing to do that, it can

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<v Speaker 2>be really challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>So survivors never survive. The survivors never survived.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe is big Brother or survivor. So No.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is is like Cole and I come from

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<v Speaker 2>these competition shows where you're playing for money and you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be strategic and like creating alliances, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was hard, I think for Coal especially to switch that

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<v Speaker 2>mindset to be like all right, I'm actually going to

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<v Speaker 2>try and really be vulnerable here and Trent, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fall in love. So I think that was hard for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You yeah, I think that that makes sense that that

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<v Speaker 1>definitely checks out. Okay, So then how were you a

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<v Speaker 1>shocked and be how did it happen to that you

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<v Speaker 1>made the trajectory over to Bachelor in Paradise, United States?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, once I watched the Canadian one, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh wow, this is like this was kind of enjoyable

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<v Speaker 2>to watch, and I was like, I think I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like I did a really great job and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>expect the call for us, but when I got it,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, if they were going to choose

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<v Speaker 2>anyone from my season to go, yeah, it made sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me. And I like, honestly, I could believe it

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<v Speaker 2>and couldn't believe it was actually happening at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, I was just like, again, a no brainer, like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's like, let's do this. This one. I wasn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like, where have you been up? Why haven't you

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<v Speaker 2>called me? One was like Okay, yeah, it makes sense,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So on Bachelor Paradise Canada, we know that some of

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<v Speaker 4>the contestants were from the US show, Like we had

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<v Speaker 4>Chelsea Vaughn, we had Austin I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Did Demi make an appearance?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, came kind of shake it up, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, Connor the Catfire Connor the Cat was there.

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<v Speaker 4>So we had a couple US contestants on your season.

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<v Speaker 4>Did they give you any advice? Did you reach out

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<v Speaker 4>to them get any advice on maybe what to expect

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<v Speaker 4>you into the US season?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, And it's funny because I myself hadn't watched

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the Paradise UH seasons, so and there

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<v Speaker 2>was only one before mine in can So I came

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<v Speaker 2>out there and I didn't know really who anybody was,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe I should have kind of reached out for

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<v Speaker 2>some advice, but I was so scared to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it to tell anybody, and the way that my season

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<v Speaker 2>like ended, and then when it aired there was like

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<v Speaker 2>some like like drama amongst the girls, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really know who I could trust and who I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, I've got to keep this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of close to me, and I wanted everyone to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have that like, oh my god, she's on the

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<v Speaker 2>US one instead of like kind of letting it trickle

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<v Speaker 2>through my my Canadian cast, if that makes sense. So

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<v Speaker 2>I kept my I kept pretty cards. I kept my

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<v Speaker 2>cards really close, to be honest. And I think too

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<v Speaker 2>going into these experiences without like a plan, like I

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<v Speaker 2>understood how it worked, but I feel like going with

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<v Speaker 2>like an open mind was probably going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>best way for me to do it personally.

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<v Speaker 3>That makes sense. So then, what are the biggest differences.

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<v Speaker 4>From filming the Canadian one to filming the US one?

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<v Speaker 2>It's so different.

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<v Speaker 4>Really well, I know, so I know for the Canadian one,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no like engagement, like if you wanted to get engaged,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure they would like let you, but like it's

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<v Speaker 4>more common that you leave just.

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<v Speaker 3>In a relationship. But that's kind of the only difference

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<v Speaker 3>I'm aware of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I know they film in like Muskoka, which for people

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<v Speaker 4>that don't know, are like the Lake House woodsy vibes

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<v Speaker 4>of Canada versus like of each in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Okay, so the US very clique.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>So okay, So I guess that makes sense just because

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<v Speaker 4>they pull people off of past seasons, so there's different

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<v Speaker 4>friend groups already formed depending on what season of The

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<v Speaker 4>Bachelor the Bachelor you were on, whereas like for Canada,

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<v Speaker 4>you guys are not command not really knowing each other.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like you're forming friendships as you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, who who on this season? Currently? Who are the

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<v Speaker 1>cliques right now?

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like it's pretty evident, but I'm curious to

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<v Speaker 4>hear what he said, so I.

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<v Speaker 2>Still could be wrong. And again, when I came into this,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't to leave with a bunch of girlfriends. I was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was there to like find love. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so when I came in, it was like I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>new girl on campus that nobody knows, and like, here's

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<v Speaker 2>our friend group that we're so close, and we don't

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<v Speaker 2>really have much interest in like bringing you in. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes sense that a new girl is a threat

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<v Speaker 2>to your dynamic on the beach, So in real life

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<v Speaker 2>that happens, let alone in this particular situation. So like

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<v Speaker 2>let's say Kat and Jess and Kylie and Mercedes, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say they were like real tight, like real real tight.

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<v Speaker 2>And then even when Davia came in, she like everyone

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<v Speaker 2>knew her, and Jennevieve came in, everyone everyone knew her,

0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:09.200
<v Speaker 2>and Rachel knows everyone, and everyone knows Rachel, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had never heard of Rachel or any of these girls

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<v Speaker 2>until I got on the beach. So it's immediately when

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<v Speaker 2>I got there, I was like, Okay, I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>gonna try and put my energy there at all, because

0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.319
<v Speaker 2>I'll just waste energy that I could be putting into

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<v Speaker 2>getting know the men. So I didn't even really try

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<v Speaker 2>to like knock down those walls. Now, as we go

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<v Speaker 2>through things and we get to know each other a

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<v Speaker 2>bit more, yes, there's like friendships that start forming there,

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<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't immediate and it definitely like took some

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<v Speaker 2>time to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like that's like we are seeing that.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's interesting because we talked to Tanner and some

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<v Speaker 4>seasons in the past you see like the guys grow

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<v Speaker 4>out a lot and you're like okay, and the girls

0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.040
<v Speaker 4>are like, come on, like we want to date you,

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<v Speaker 4>Like what are you doing playing like mermaids in the pool?

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<v Speaker 4>But Tanner was like this season, like the girls were

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<v Speaker 4>really tight and there was like a yeahstrong girl group

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<v Speaker 4>and I feel like, you know, Mercedes, Kylie, Jess and

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<v Speaker 4>Kat are all from Zach season. I know Jen is

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<v Speaker 4>from Zach season. And when you are on the Bachelor Batchet,

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<v Speaker 4>you spend so much time with the other contestants, like

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<v Speaker 4>way more than with the leads, So there's definitely a bond.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know, I don't feel like, like so

0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.800
<v Speaker 4>Joe and I were on season seven, I don't feel

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<v Speaker 4>like we had that as much.

0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:23.760
<v Speaker 3>But I also think we had a lot of different

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<v Speaker 3>people from different seasons and very very strong relationships, so

0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.600
<v Speaker 3>it was a lot more of hanging out with Like

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<v Speaker 3>it was a lot more you looked around, it was

0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.760
<v Speaker 3>like everyone was coupled up. Yeah, versus like seeing like

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<v Speaker 3>the girls drinking mimosas and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the guys were well in our season, our season.

0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Our season also came off of the COVID break, so

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<v Speaker 1>there was there was a lot of time in between that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in between that. Yeah, But I do have a question

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<v Speaker 1>just to touch on it right now, because when you

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<v Speaker 1>do mention the click, Jess and Mercedes are in the

0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:58.480
<v Speaker 1>same click. We do see last episode Jess and Tyler

0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:03.640
<v Speaker 1>make out. Mercedes he's basically dating Tyler, and then that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really get addressed, does it ever?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't see like Mercedes and Tyler of a conversation Mercedes

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<v Speaker 4>and Jess. We don't really see like that close out

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<v Speaker 4>at all. Was there something that went down that we're

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<v Speaker 4>not seeing?

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<v Speaker 2>So again, at this point, I'm out of the loop.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, where I saw that, I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, really, so you see so you seeing it on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like the first time you knew about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, Absolutely the first time I really saw it, So

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<v Speaker 2>like I wasn't even in these conversations like at night

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<v Speaker 2>when you're getting ready to go to bed or in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, where you're like were you here like the

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<v Speaker 2>chit chat like that wasn't even in my realm. So

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<v Speaker 2>like I have so interesting and I wish I wish

0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.400
<v Speaker 2>I had known that. I wish I had known that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's things I wish I had known. I wish I

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<v Speaker 2>was in more so that I could. I just it's

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<v Speaker 2>just that information could be powerful in like play a role. Definitely.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you wanted to, like reality TV show it up

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit, and if you had that information, you

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<v Speaker 4>could have gotten your hands in.

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<v Speaker 2>Any way anyway. Like if you that, I can do whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, So you you come down at a at

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<v Speaker 1>a very.

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<v Speaker 3>Like interesting and opportune time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean you come down Basically you come

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<v Speaker 1>down during your row ceremony where guys need a rose

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<v Speaker 1>to stay and basically by you coming down at that time,

0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.440
<v Speaker 1>there's really not much much time for you to make

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<v Speaker 1>a real connection. So you're basically just giving a roast

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<v Speaker 1>to whoever you potentially have the best conversation with. But

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<v Speaker 1>it you gave your rose to Pete and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>still seem to be hanging out. So what is that relationship?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what's the dynamic?

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, but before we get into p you. It was

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<v Speaker 4>like freaking time for the sharks to feed when you

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<v Speaker 4>came down to the beach, Like what was that like?

0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.200
<v Speaker 4>And like walk us through like talking all these guys,

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<v Speaker 4>Like what was the vibe? How did you make that

0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:13.879
<v Speaker 4>decision to go with Pete?

0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.679
<v Speaker 2>It was definitely overwhelming, and I was like I was,

0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I was nervous, but more excited and I just felt

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<v Speaker 2>so much better that I had a rose. It put

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<v Speaker 2>me like in a whole different mindset. So I was like, Okay,

0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.399
<v Speaker 2>let's do this. Let's like try and get deep, like

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<v Speaker 2>real quick. And I knew that there would probably be

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<v Speaker 2>like a revolving door of guys that are just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to like get a conversation in before the Row ceremony,

0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:38.440
<v Speaker 2>so I was prepared for that. There was people that

0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:43.520
<v Speaker 2>like like Sean and Aaron S that I talked to,

0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.480
<v Speaker 2>and even Michael B that I talked to, and it

0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:50.040
<v Speaker 2>was just like immediately no, like there wasn't like I

0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.119
<v Speaker 2>was like, Okay, is there is someone else like anybody else?

0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Peter had number one the hype, which I liked.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had the age not to cut you off,

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<v Speaker 1>but you said Michael B. John B John b right, No,

0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you're right, But isn't that.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no okay because that show it really was real,

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<v Speaker 4>like yeah, they just seemed like real, like little cute

0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:18.760
<v Speaker 4>guys I like put.

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<v Speaker 2>In my pocket and like and then Aaron s kind

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<v Speaker 2>of had this like almost like this like I just

0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.639
<v Speaker 2>got a jail at a jail vibe, but I was like, no,

0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't really, I don't like that, and the other

0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:31.320
<v Speaker 2>ones I could just put him in my pocket. And

0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.760
<v Speaker 2>then there was Peter who seemed to, you know, conversate

0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:39.560
<v Speaker 2>very well. He was seemed intelligent. He was thirty three

0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.440
<v Speaker 2>at the time I was thirty four, So honestly, it

0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:44.680
<v Speaker 2>was a no brainer. Yeah.

0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:50.200
<v Speaker 4>With that, just like high far like checklists, most compatible, chemistry,

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<v Speaker 4>most compatible, it sounds.

0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Like definitely yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And honestly, like looking back at your platter of men

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<v Speaker 4>like that, he is the one that if you asked me, like,

0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:00.440
<v Speaker 4>take a guess who she's gonna to give the rest,

0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.240
<v Speaker 4>I'd be like, he makes the most sense in my

0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:03.680
<v Speaker 4>mind too, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you choose, So you choose Pizza, what what

0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:11.919
<v Speaker 1>is your relationship like now? Because for what for for

0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I think the viewers and for what we see it

0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:16.280
<v Speaker 1>there doesn't.

0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:21.080
<v Speaker 4>There's yeah, like we do see it's like, is there

0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:21.520
<v Speaker 4>a connection?

0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.639
<v Speaker 3>Is it just friendship? Is it romantic? Like fill us in?

0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:30.800
<v Speaker 2>So I think like at this stage of where Peter

0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.919
<v Speaker 2>and I are, we're like we're both very interested in

0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:37.280
<v Speaker 2>getting to know each other. We're not part of the

0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 2>drama at this point because we're kind of just like

0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.080
<v Speaker 2>in on each other and nobody else wants me and

0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.040
<v Speaker 2>nobody else wants him at this point, so we're like,

0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.800
<v Speaker 2>all right, let's like let's just get to know each other.

0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.159
<v Speaker 2>So a lot of the times, you know, we're not

0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:55.720
<v Speaker 2>in the scenes. We're just like chilling in the pool,

0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.119
<v Speaker 2>or we're like sharing a meal together, or like I

0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.399
<v Speaker 2>love to ask questions, and we're just like getting to

0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.000
<v Speaker 2>know each other. What I love about Peter is he

0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.960
<v Speaker 2>like he'll like clear my dishes away, or he'll like

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.840
<v Speaker 2>give me a towel, or he'll like he was very

0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:16.520
<v Speaker 2>like just very just polite and like just like an

0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:21.880
<v Speaker 2>overall like good human being. So based off my previous experience,

0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.879
<v Speaker 2>it was so nice to have this. It's so nice

0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:32.480
<v Speaker 2>to have this relationship that doesn't feel like there's outside threats.

0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Then it's just we can kind of like pack our

0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.000
<v Speaker 2>time and get to know each other. So that's that's

0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:39.200
<v Speaker 2>where we're at right now. It's just not dramatic, Okay.

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.639
<v Speaker 4>So it's just like slow and steady, like you're enjoying

0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:43.360
<v Speaker 4>each other's company, getting to know each other.

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.440
<v Speaker 1>And then Peter's kind of in the same place you are. Well,

0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:49.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was he was a night one person

0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if you saw like all the

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.879
<v Speaker 1>FP stuff, so it doesn't he doesn't have any friends

0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:55.960
<v Speaker 1>on the beach, I'm assuming.

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I he kind of like filled me in

0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:05.000
<v Speaker 2>on the FP thing and I was like, I was

0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:08.520
<v Speaker 2>so confused. It took me a little bit of time

0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:10.919
<v Speaker 2>for me to like wrap my head around that and

0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:16.960
<v Speaker 2>be like what, yeah, I know, right, And yeah, so

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I really tried not to let that, you know, affect

0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:25.960
<v Speaker 2>my my like experience, you know. If anything, it made

0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:28.560
<v Speaker 2>me like look at some other people and be like,

0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 2>why you really liked it that, like you really kind

0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:32.760
<v Speaker 2>of like went to that like level, Like to me,

0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:36.680
<v Speaker 2>that just seems extremely childish. And all I see out

0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:40.679
<v Speaker 2>of Peter is just like really a good, good human

0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:42.560
<v Speaker 2>being that I don't think would ever heard of fly

0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.040
<v Speaker 2>or if he misspoke. I think it was just black

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.800
<v Speaker 2>out a lack of like knowledge and fully knowing what

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:52.320
<v Speaker 2>he was talking about. And I, you know, I could

0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.040
<v Speaker 2>be wrong. I really could be wrong, but I really

0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.639
<v Speaker 2>feel like that was just like I'm kind of like

0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:00.280
<v Speaker 2>a misunderstanding or like I don't even know. I really

0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:02.199
<v Speaker 2>try not to focus too much on it. It was

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:03.919
<v Speaker 2>like a little weird story for him to tell me.

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:05.679
<v Speaker 2>And I was like almost like I felt like I

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:11.200
<v Speaker 2>wanted to protect him and and be like, no, Peter's good,

0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 2>don't do.

0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:15.320
<v Speaker 1>That is Peter. Is Peter your type or do you

0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:15.880
<v Speaker 1>have a type?

0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:21.119
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we could keep going He's not your type.

0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming was.

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<v Speaker 4>There anyone that you were interested in meeting coming into Paradise? I?

0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:33.959
<v Speaker 2>Uh so when obviously, when I knew that I was

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 2>going on the beach, the actual beach, I was like, okay,

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:41.119
<v Speaker 2>I should probably like do a little bit of research

0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:42.919
<v Speaker 2>and see who was on. Like I knew that the

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 2>most previous seasons of certain you know, the shows, typically

0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.480
<v Speaker 2>they'll pull people, they have people to come from, you know,

0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.360
<v Speaker 2>But I like I didn't have time where the brain

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:53.119
<v Speaker 2>capacity or the attention spand like watch all the seasons.

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 2>So I just decided to land on, hoping that Blake

0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:00.480
<v Speaker 2>would be there because he's a Canadian. Plus I was

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.479
<v Speaker 2>following like some spoiler accounts that were like trying to

0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.440
<v Speaker 2>hint at who was going to end up there, and

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.439
<v Speaker 2>I when I when I saw this guy Blake, I

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, yeah, he has a kind face and

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:19.960
<v Speaker 2>actually is just so hot actually, and he's Canadian. So

0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I want to I want to be

0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Blake for sure, and I did. I did talk to

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 2>him when I first got there, and not he wasn't

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 2>he didn't give me anything. It was like to the

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:37.160
<v Speaker 2>point where I was like, Blake sucks, Like Blake stocks

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 2>so bad because I was really trying to be playful

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 2>and like just trying to like kind of break into

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:44.399
<v Speaker 2>him a little bit. And what I didn't realize is

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Blake is somebody that you have to get to know

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:52.360
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more before you really truly see how

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 2>amazing Blake is because he's such a great person. But

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 2>at first he doesn't like let you in right away.

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.200
<v Speaker 2>He's got a little bit of this, like especially when

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 2>he's trying to work on this stuff with Jess. So

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 2>like I think I was just like like He's like,

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:09.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to entertain you politely, but I'm not going

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 2>to give you anything to make you think that like

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pursue you, or that I'm an option

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 2>for you whatsoever. So I was like, I was like whatever,

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 2>And I ended up apologizing to himself, like, Blake, I

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 2>was talking shit about you, and I realized that You're

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:26.480
<v Speaker 2>actually such a great dude, and I'm sorry about that.

0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>So Blake was also kind of someone on the beach,

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 1>just you know, in his own head doing his own thing,

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>opposed to like part of a clique, part of a

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 1>group of people.

0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, what is your take on Blake and Jess's relationship?

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 2>To go back on that when you say part of

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 2>a clique, part of a group, No, he was just

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 2>focused on Jess.

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was.

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like yeah, it was it was just yes,

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 2>got it?

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.400
<v Speaker 1>And what's your Yeah, what what is your take on

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 1>on their relationtionship at this point? Because now we do

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:05.200
<v Speaker 1>see them get back together?

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeahah, because we asked. We asked Tanner when he was

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 4>on a few weeks ago. We did like kind of

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 4>a run through of the relationships with Tanner as well.

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:17.479
<v Speaker 4>And his take at that point was like it seemed

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 4>kind of surface level. It just seemed like, you know,

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:22.880
<v Speaker 4>they sit together their boyfriend and girlfriend, but like there's

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 4>not a lot going on there. But he's obviously like

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm an outsider looking in, you know, I don't know

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 4>their private conversations. Now a lot has happened in the

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 4>last two weeks with Blake and Jess. He went on

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 4>that date. We see them kind of back together. When

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 4>you're on the beach, you're kind of like looking at

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 4>what's going on there.

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 3>What's your take?

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I My take is like on board with it first

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.360
<v Speaker 2>of all, which which is fine. I think the most

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 2>healthy relationships are actually kind of boring at times. I do.

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they should be Phillip chaos and drama.

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I think the best relationships can be a little bit boring, Okay,

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And maybe that's just their personalities that I was like, Okay.

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel like Jess came in with this idea that

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 2>she really wanted to do paradise the way that most

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 2>people do paradise, which is like day a round, and

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 2>I think she was she met Blake and maybe didn't

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 2>necessarily expect Blake to be so into her, and it

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 2>made it harder for her to like pull away and

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 2>want to do Paradise, even if that meant coming back

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 2>to Blake, which is you know what we see. So

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 2>I think she just didn't expect that Paradise experience for herself,

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 2>and I think Blake kind of went in knowing what

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 2>he wanted and so they were playing. They just had

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 2>different expectations of what their experience was going to be,

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's what's kind of pulled them apart

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 2>and now, you know, circling back around. I think Jess,

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jess is like I think Blake is in

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.400
<v Speaker 2>his thirties. I think Jess is still a little young.

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 2>So I think maybe that you know, the age thing

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 2>could be like, you know, Blake might be like, let's

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm ready to like find my person sell

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 2>down and just maybe like I'm still I'm here to date. No.

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 2>So I think ultimately that's what it comes down to

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:12.399
<v Speaker 2>for me.

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think that. I think that reads.

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 1>I think that makes makes sense. What what are your

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on the because we've been pretty opinionated on the

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>whole Cat John Henry and Olivia situation and where we're

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 1>at now we see John Henry choose this Cat, and

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 1>when I say opinionated, I'm more like these past few episodes,

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:41.400
<v Speaker 1>it has seemed like Olivia is like John is basically

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>saying John Henry like is being manipulated by Cat and

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>can't make a decision. But it kind of seems like

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>John Henry's into Cat. So I don't know, just like

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>what are your thoughts on it all?

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 2>So I I love Olivia and I love Cat, and

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 2>it's actually it took me a little bit of time

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.119
<v Speaker 2>to like get to know both of them. But by

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 2>the end of like those are like they're like a

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 2>cough for me. I actually love that Cat went for

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 2>what she wanted. I'm watching that being like go girl

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 2>like almost like I wish I had the balls to

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:21.439
<v Speaker 2>like do that. And I think it's John Henry's nature

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>to be laid back and that he needed someone like

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Kat to come in and be like, I like you,

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I want to pursue this. So I'm letting you know

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>if there's any bit of something there, like let's let's

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 2>go in that direction. And I think I don't think

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 2>he's being like manipulated at all. I think there was

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 2>some attraction there to Kat on his end, and now

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 2>he's just getting the green light to like move in

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 2>that direction. I think it's I think it's good. I'm

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm I support it.

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 3>To be honest, I agree with you.

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 4>I think he needs he is so laid back. He

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 4>needs someone like a cat. Yeah, passive almost. That's like

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 4>she is taking charge of that relationship and like he's

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 4>not like an innocent vice stand or he's like okay, yeah,

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 4>like I'm down for this too. But she's like this

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 4>is what's happening, and he's like, Okay, let's do it.

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 4>And she needs someone that's chill, like it's a good balance.

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But did he did he like Olivia? Because it

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>did seem it also did seem like he was into Olivia.

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>It did. I came in and like I didn't really see.

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't. I couldn't see like I can see when

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm there. I'm like I can see a cat and

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 2>John Henry and like it makes sense to me. I

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 2>just didn't see the dynamic between Olivia and John Henry

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>for me just didn't work. Like it just didn't didn't

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 2>for me, just didn't like make sense from a relationship standpoint.

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Whenever I would like see them as like, to me,

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 2>it's like a friend. Buy Yeah, But I think he

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I think he was definitely like attracted to her, and

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>she's amazing and funny and such a great person. I

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 2>just think that. I just think Kat's more is tight,

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 2>okay when it comes down to that. And I don't

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 2>know if he even knew Kat was an option until

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 2>she literally presented herself and was like here here I

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 2>am so I adore Olivia and I feel for her

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 2>going through this because I was in that situation. I

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 2>was in that situation in Canada where I, you know,

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I thought I had something that was going well and

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 2>then seeing someone come in and try and break it down,

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 2>it's such a crappy feeling and I don't I don't

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 2>want anyone to feel like that. I mean, but it's paradise,

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 2>and you.

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Know that's what would be What would be your advice

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>is so you were you're saying you were basically Olivia

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>in the Canadian situation, correct, what would be your advice

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to her?

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Throw out the trash, literally tie it up and throw

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 2>it away. Just be like, I'm not I'm not going

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 2>to be like a maybe it's like a fes or

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>it's a no. So it's like, just gone even if

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 2>even if that means you're not getting rose and you're

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>going home, so be it. Let it go. Yeah, I

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>like them. I love that. Let them like, let them.

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Like if he wants to go Datecat, like, just let

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 3>him go down.

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Let them.

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, I like that too. Were you surprised

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 3>and when Brayden gave his rose to Olivia and she

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 3>ends up saying because that was a crazy rose ceremony

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 3>because we didn't know where Tanner's rose was going and

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 3>we didn't know where Braden's rose was going.

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I'm like, damn, like I gotta get

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>in with the girls because I am out of the loop,

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 2>like what is happening? And so I was just I think, like,

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I hope they should. I hope they see more of this.

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 2>But my face was like this, I was completely shocked,

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Like what.

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of fun though, it's kind of fun to

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>be in.

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, so that you know that, the episode basically

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>it's left on a cliffhanger. Michael walks down and he

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.959
<v Speaker 1>he you're one of the girls that he pulls. What

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>are you interested in? Potentially going on a date if

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you Pete had this cover any conversation about like exclusivity

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that.

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>So we hadn't We haven't had the exclusivity talk. But

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I told Michael that I would go on the date.

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think Peter loved that.

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but what did he? Do you think he knew? Like,

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>do you think he did? You think? Are you guys

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>on the same page.

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel like we had the conversation where I'm like, yeah,

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>if you get off on a date, you should totally

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 2>go because we want to have the full Paradise experience.

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, How do you just say that even if

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 2>you don't mean it? But I'm pretty sure sure I said.

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 2>I think I told him. This is terrible. I'm sorry

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I told him that I would go on the date.

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 2>What's happening right now is I remember having I remember

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>like backpedaling a bit. I remember being like, that wasn't smart.

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 2>The guys have roses. I just said I'd go on

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 2>a date with somebody else, and I think I remember

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 2>being like, I shouldn't have done that because I don't

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 2>think he liked that answer.

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 4>Mmm, okay, so this is probably the first time like

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 4>you're moving from everything's just casual get to know each

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 4>other's zone with Peter to like you're moving into that

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 4>zone of.

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Like where is this going? What are we doing?

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I kind of wanted to like maybe test that dynamic

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 2>and be like, yeah, I'm gonna go on a date

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>and be like you do with that, and then when

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like not okay about it, I'm like, I'm just kidding.

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't go yeah.

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well now I'm trying to fill you out. I'm

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>actually curious. I don't know if you go on this date.

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:08.919
<v Speaker 1>I want. I want to know because that's why it's

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>really between her and Olivia, because the other two seem

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>to be in more serious relationships, except for Mercedes because.

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 3>Who knows what kind of Mercedes.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>But the whole beach really wants Olivia to get this date.

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm curious. I'm curious to see what happens.

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, while we're chatting about all the other couples, I'm

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 4>loving doing the couple rundown with you, Sam. The one

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 4>couple that I feel like we have the hardest time

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 4>figuring out in this last episode what's going on with

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 4>them is Eliza and Aaron B. We see Kat tells

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 4>e Liza about his ex girlfriend drama they have the

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 4>conbo charity comes down, like so much unfold and then

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Aaron B Is like all in on Eliza and she's like, we'll.

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 2>See yeah, so yeah again. That was like the meme

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 2>where it's like the mathic vision.

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 4>Or like or bored, I don't know what like, or

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 4>you're like trying to put all the pieces together.

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't pick up on that. I got that

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 2>from Aaron B. Because Aaron B and I would be

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 2>up early in the morning and I'd be like, you know, hang,

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 2>what's up, and he's like not feeling good, not feeling great,

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 2>and like I kind of had to get filled in

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 2>and like, honestly, for me, like ex girlfriends are ex

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 2>girlfriends for a reason, and I understand that maybe he's

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 2>fumbling on the words trying to explain the situation because

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 2>he probably didn't really feel like any of that was

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 2>going to happen. I don't ever want to hear about

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 2>your ex girlfriend. I don't care about your ex girlfriend

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 2>until there's a problem, you know what I mean. And

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 2>so for me, it was like, come on, guys, you

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 2>guys got something great here, like let's like focus on that, like,

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 2>let's just move forward to me. It screams more when

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>you're looking for some way out and you're like, you know,

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 2>that's it. I'm like, I'm like changing my whole mindset

0:35:58.560 --> 0:35:59.720
<v Speaker 2>around this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna Okay, so I'm gonna stop you there,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's how that is how I'm reading the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like almost it almost is starting to seem

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<v Speaker 1>like Eliza's not is into into him and wants a

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<v Speaker 1>way out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like Joe's like, I feel like she's considering she

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<v Speaker 3>wants to use this piece of information, this little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of drama, as her way out of the relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the same way that I feel to Ben. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah I do, And like I think too, when you're

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<v Speaker 2>presented the information from like someone that you don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's in this world where you're like everyone's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm an idiot, But what really matters is the

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<v Speaker 2>relationship that you have and the person that you are presented. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's hard to see it really for what

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<v Speaker 2>it is, and that if you don't push through that,

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<v Speaker 2>then most likely it is an.

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<v Speaker 3>Out and right, right, yeah, and you know, we do

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<v Speaker 3>see Aaron B.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I don't he did the best job of explaining

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<v Speaker 4>himself necessarily, but I don't think he's necessarily like insanely

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<v Speaker 4>guilty of anything here. And he clearly is fighting for

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<v Speaker 4>the relationship like that, he's trying really hard. He's sending

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<v Speaker 4>her breakfast, he's like reassuring her.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, he wants he does.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a man on the beach. He's putting in the

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<v Speaker 2>most work to show her that he cares.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I say, okay, So who would you say as

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<v Speaker 4>a stronger couple then Aaron and Eliza or Avan and Kylie.

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<v Speaker 4>Just from like the outside of perspective at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, every couple needs to go through adversity. There has

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<v Speaker 2>to be a challenge to get through so that you're

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<v Speaker 2>like stronger. So I would probably say Eliza and Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>B right now, because Kylie and Avan have just had

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<v Speaker 2>like no like everything's just been kind of chill.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I just feel like.

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 2>They're pretty close, like even and Kylie, like there's no drama,

0:37:57.719 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 2>there's no nothing, So maybe yeah, there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more strength there. Who knows what's going to happen if

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<v Speaker 2>they go through adversity. So I do think that you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to go through something to get stronger. So I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I'll have to wait and see.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to play a game with us?

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to playing game.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's play a game. Anyone, any anything else you

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<v Speaker 1>want to say though, anyone you want to talk about,

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.399
<v Speaker 1>or anything anything you feel is left unset.

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 3>Any drama you want to let out?

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<v Speaker 2>More sam screen time, like come on, like, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>like hump it up, even if it's just like gibbers,

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 2>put me on the screen, put me, let's go, let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it all right?

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<v Speaker 3>Should we do it? Rapid fire questions? All right, so

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<v Speaker 3>first thing it comes to your mind? Rapid fire?

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing, just all fun, easy questions. Are you more of

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<v Speaker 4>an introvert or an extrovert?

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<v Speaker 2>Extrovert?

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<v Speaker 3>What is your go to paradise cocktail?

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<v Speaker 2>I was drinking blachistotal lines.

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<v Speaker 3>Mmmmm those always end up kind of watered down in

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<v Speaker 3>my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you're right, a.

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<v Speaker 4>Little more soda in line than his vodka. What is

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<v Speaker 4>the first thing you would buy if you won the lottery?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Oh g you war him?

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.280
<v Speaker 3>What is your dating deal breaker?

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Rude, rude, rude people.

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<v Speaker 3>M If you could go on any other reality show,

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 3>what would it be?

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<v Speaker 2>Dancing with the Stars?

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<v Speaker 3>Same?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a reality show?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a reality show.

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>What is your love language?

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<v Speaker 2>Words of affirmation? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Did Peter give you words of affirmation? He sounds like

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<v Speaker 4>an active service guy the way you described him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, yeah when when I needed it he did

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<v Speaker 2>at times. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the first concert you ever attended?

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<v Speaker 2>Adele?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, first good concert.

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 3>No that you can't just pick the best one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, first concert like some forty one? Maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good first concert of What is your favorite dessert?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Cule.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the most important item to pack for paradise?

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 2>The most important item to pack for paradise myself? Tennor?

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, I'm dad. What is one thing that

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<v Speaker 3>makes Canada better than the US? Just one?

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<v Speaker 2>Jeez? All of our personalities compared to you. I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, wow does dig at the people? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Sam?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you so much for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>So much.

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