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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bechler Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and I and we are here with Sam Pee from

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Paradise. Sam, Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: Are you good that we're excited to have you?

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Speaker 2: You are.

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Speaker 1: I'll just let you and Serena get into it because

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Speaker 1: we have two Canadians on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I am a bad Canadian girl and I

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Speaker 4: didn't watch Bachelor in Paradise Canada.

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Speaker 3: So where in Canada are you from?

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Speaker 2: So? I am from Saint John's, Newfoundland, Okay, Easterly Point

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Speaker 2: actually North America, and I actually live on a rock.

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Speaker 2: You cannot get here unless you fly or get a

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Speaker 2: boat here.

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Speaker 3: Your accent isn't that strong?

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Speaker 2: No? I know every single time I meet people that

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Speaker 2: are not from New Zealand or like, where's your accent?

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Speaker 2: I honestly wish I had more of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, because some people from Newfoundland do have such a

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Speaker 3: strong accent. You have a little bit, but it's like

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Speaker 3: not that bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, It's like when I do hard and power,

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Speaker 2: it's like why yeah, yeah, that's like literally the only

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Speaker 2: like East Coast accent that.

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Speaker 1: I have, and what's life like? What is life like

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Speaker 1: living on a rock? Also, have you guys seen the

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Speaker 1: you've watched Peaky Blinders. Have you ever seen Peaky Blinders?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the last season. Isn't he in Newfoundland

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Speaker 1: in the last season.

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Speaker 3: I didn't watch the last I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, okay, but yeah, what's life like on around?

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Speaker 2: Okay? I'll try and describe it as best I can.

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Speaker 2: It's like we have a lot of like what's called

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Speaker 2: jellybean row So it's all these like row houses that

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Speaker 2: are like beautiful colors and all these like tiny winding streets,

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Speaker 2: and it has a very European feel. So it's almost

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Speaker 2: like you feel like you're you're somewhere in Europe when

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Speaker 2: you come here. And we have such a large culture

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Speaker 2: of food and music. There's so much talent here, and

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Speaker 2: everybody is connected in some weird way. So it's just

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Speaker 2: there's five hundred thousand of us in total in this

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Speaker 2: general general area where I am, like the city, there's

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Speaker 2: about one hundred and fifty thousand. Every time I get

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Speaker 2: down with these numbers, someone comes for me. But it's

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Speaker 2: very close knit. It's very small, you know, It's like

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Speaker 2: help your neighbor type thing, but everywhere. So it's so

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Speaker 2: close knit and so fun, and the night life is

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Speaker 2: so lively. It's just such such a unique, a unique place.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah anytime.

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Speaker 4: I haven't been to these states of Canada, but I

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Speaker 4: have a few friends that have like road tripped it,

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Speaker 4: and they always describe it as like it's so vibrant,

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Speaker 4: but it still feels like a small town. But it's

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Speaker 4: like there's such amazing energy and it's like so scenic

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Speaker 4: and apparently the real estate is like really cheap and Halifax, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and on these cos So I really want to go,

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Speaker 4: but I have friends that will send me houses, being

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Speaker 4: like we should just all pick up up and moved

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Speaker 4: to the east coast of Canada.

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Speaker 1: Well, if we drove there from Canada or from Toronto,

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Speaker 1: how long would that take?

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Speaker 3: Like a day or two?

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Speaker 2: It's like maybe, like this is gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Bad, depends where five days, four days, maybe back maybe

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Speaker 4: to Newfoundland.

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Speaker 3: Wow, because it's a little higher. Maybe you're talking to

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Speaker 3: two people who don't know geography. Right now, I.

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Speaker 1: Think by Land, Canada is the largest country in the world.

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Speaker 3: We're up there, We're up there. Wait, Toronto to Newfinland, driving.

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Speaker 1: Distance five days seems excessive, but I mean you could

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Speaker 1: be right. Okay, so as it schooling in this, let's talk.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So it's a thirty hour drive from Toronto to Newfoundland.

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Speaker 4: So you could do it in five days. No one's

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Speaker 4: gonna do it two to three days, two days.

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Speaker 1: So Sam, let's talk about little bit about your experience

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Speaker 1: on Bachelor in Paradise, Canada for our listeners who may

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Speaker 1: not have watched, Like, I just kind of like your

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Speaker 1: storyline and what really went down?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how did you get on? And like give us

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Speaker 3: the spark notes of your time there.

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Speaker 1: So I.

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Speaker 2: Got like a I got a call and you know,

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Speaker 2: someone said do you want to do this? And I've

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Speaker 2: been like, where have you been? I have been waiting

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Speaker 2: for this phone call? What have taken you so long?

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Speaker 3: They happy at your number?

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Speaker 2: Did you apply through the gram? Through the girl?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: And then another another show that I was on before

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Speaker 2: that one I think kind of put me on the map.

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Speaker 1: What show is that I was on?

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Speaker 2: Big Brother?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got that.

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Speaker 3: I've watched a few seasons. It's actually like very good.

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Speaker 2: It's so good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So how long did you last in that show, so.

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Speaker 2: I was first injurance. So I lasted forty one days,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I want an a to aage. I

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Speaker 2: want to POV. I got the Showman, so I was

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Speaker 2: on Slot for two weeks. I did it all. I

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Speaker 2: had the whole Big Brother experience and it was amazing.

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Speaker 2: So I think from that it kind of put me

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Speaker 2: on the map. And then I got the call for

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Speaker 2: Bachelor in Paradise, Canada, and I was so excited. I

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Speaker 2: didn't realize I was going to be first on the beach,

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Speaker 2: not very first person, but at day one, which was

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Speaker 2: so exciting. I got to meet so many incredible people

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Speaker 2: before we get into the people my particular experience, and

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Speaker 2: you know, I went there with an open mind and

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Speaker 2: an open heart, and I fell for this guy, Cole,

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Speaker 2: who was actually on Survivor. It was his first time

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Speaker 2: in the Bachelor world. So we hit it off like

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Speaker 2: day one and I ended up in a love triangle actually,

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Speaker 2: which kind of just lasted the entire season. Some people

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Speaker 2: would say I was the villain of the season. Some

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Speaker 2: people would say I was the sweet part of the season.

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Speaker 2: Some people would say I was the comedian of the season.

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Speaker 2: So I was a well rounded contestant, let's just say that.

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Speaker 2: And I learned a lot about myself and kind of like,

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Speaker 2: you know, going for what I want and not being

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Speaker 2: like one of two. And it was just such an

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Speaker 2: amazing experience. And I think coming out of that wanting

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Speaker 3: So did you end up with either of the guys?

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously not well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, but I met like short, short term.

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Speaker 4: Obviously I know you're not with any of them now,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, how did it end for you?

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Speaker 2: Actually, it was like kind of dramatic. You know. Cole

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Speaker 2: had enough of the I think the dramatics of it all,

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Speaker 2: and he left Paradise and I stuck around for a

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Speaker 2: couple of days after actually because I met my now

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Speaker 2: great friend Maryland. So I managed to find a best

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Speaker 2: to you along the way and we left together. But

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Speaker 2: you know, Cole was like, I can't do this, this

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Speaker 2: you know, he said, you know, I'm you know, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't give you what you really deserve. I wasn't

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Speaker 2: And I get that. I get that. I feel like

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Speaker 2: and if you're not willing to do that, it can

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Speaker 1: So survivors never survive. The survivors never survived.

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Speaker 3: Joe is big Brother or survivor. So No.

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Speaker 2: The thing is is like Cole and I come from

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Speaker 2: these competition shows where you're playing for money and you're

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Speaker 2: trying to be strategic and like creating alliances, and it

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Speaker 2: was hard, I think for Coal especially to switch that

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Speaker 1: You yeah, I think that that makes sense that that

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Speaker 1: definitely checks out. Okay, So then how were you a

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Speaker 1: shocked and be how did it happen to that you

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Speaker 1: made the trajectory over to Bachelor in Paradise, United States?

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Speaker 2: Well, once I watched the Canadian one, I was like,

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, if they were going to choose

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Speaker 2: So well, I was just like, again, a no brainer, like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So on Bachelor Paradise Canada, we know that some of

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Connor the Catfire Connor the Cat was there.

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Speaker 4: So we had a couple US contestants on your season.

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Speaker 4: Did they give you any advice? Did you reach out

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Speaker 4: you into the US season?

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Speaker 2: No? No, And it's funny because I myself hadn't watched

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Speaker 2: a lot of the Paradise UH seasons, so and there

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Speaker 2: So I was like, I've got to keep this kind

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Speaker 2: US one instead of like kind of letting it trickle

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Speaker 2: I kept my I kept pretty cards. I kept my

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Speaker 2: going into these experiences without like a plan, like I

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Speaker 2: understood how it worked, but I feel like going with

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Speaker 3: That makes sense. So then, what are the biggest differences.

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Speaker 4: From filming the Canadian one to filming the US one?

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Speaker 2: It's so different.

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Speaker 4: Really well, I know, so I know for the Canadian one,

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Speaker 4: there's no like engagement, like if you wanted to get engaged,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they would like let you, but like it's

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Speaker 4: more common that you leave just.

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Speaker 3: In a relationship. But that's kind of the only difference

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Speaker 3: I'm aware of it.

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Speaker 4: I know they film in like Muskoka, which for people

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's like we are seeing that.

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Speaker 1: Like the guys were well in our season, our season.

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Speaker 4: Don't see like Mercedes and Tyler of a conversation Mercedes

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Speaker 2: I had known that. I wish I had known that.

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Speaker 2: There's things I wish I had known. I wish I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you wanted to, like reality TV show it up

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Speaker 2: Any way anyway. Like if you that, I can do whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So you you come down at a at

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Speaker 3: Like interesting and opportune time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean you come down Basically you come

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Speaker 2: It was definitely overwhelming, and I was like I was,

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Uh, Peter had number one the hype, which I liked.

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Speaker 1: And he had the age not to cut you off,

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Speaker 1: but you said Michael B. John B John b right, No,

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Speaker 4: There's no okay because that show it really was real,

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Speaker 4: With that, just like high far like checklists, most compatible, chemistry,

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Speaker 2: Like definitely yeah.

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Speaker 4: And honestly, like looking back at your platter of men

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you choose, So you choose Pizza, what what

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Speaker 4: There's yeah, like we do see it's like, is there

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Speaker 2: So I think like at this stage of where Peter

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Speaker 2: all right, let's like let's just get to know each other.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of the times, you know, we're not

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Speaker 2: it was so nice to have this. It's so nice

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Speaker 2: Then it's just we can kind of like pack our

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Speaker 4: So it's just like slow and steady, like you're enjoying

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I he kind of like filled me in

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Speaker 1: That is Peter. Is Peter your type or do you

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: There anyone that you were interested in meeting coming into Paradise? I?

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Speaker 2: most previous seasons of certain you know, the shows, typically

441
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: they'll pull people, they have people to come from, you know,

442
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 2: But I like I didn't have time where the brain

443
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 2: capacity or the attention spand like watch all the seasons.

444
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: So I just decided to land on, hoping that Blake

445
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: would be there because he's a Canadian. Plus I was

446
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,479
Speaker 2: following like some spoiler accounts that were like trying to

447
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: hint at who was going to end up there, and

448
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 2: I when I when I saw this guy Blake, I

449
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, he has a kind face and

450
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: actually is just so hot actually, and he's Canadian. So

451
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to I want to be

452
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 2: Blake for sure, and I did. I did talk to

453
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 2: him when I first got there, and not he wasn't

454
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 2: he didn't give me anything. It was like to the

455
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 2: point where I was like, Blake sucks, Like Blake stocks

456
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: so bad because I was really trying to be playful

457
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: and like just trying to like kind of break into

458
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: him a little bit. And what I didn't realize is

459
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: Blake is somebody that you have to get to know

460
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 2: a little bit more before you really truly see how

461
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: amazing Blake is because he's such a great person. But

462
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 2: at first he doesn't like let you in right away.

463
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: He's got a little bit of this, like especially when

464
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: he's trying to work on this stuff with Jess. So

465
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: like I think I was just like like He's like,

466
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 2: I'm going to entertain you politely, but I'm not going

467
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: to give you anything to make you think that like

468
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to pursue you, or that I'm an option

469
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 2: for you whatsoever. So I was like, I was like whatever,

470
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: And I ended up apologizing to himself, like, Blake, I

471
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: was talking shit about you, and I realized that You're

472
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: actually such a great dude, and I'm sorry about that.

473
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: So Blake was also kind of someone on the beach,

474
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: just you know, in his own head doing his own thing,

475
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: opposed to like part of a clique, part of a

476
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: group of people.

477
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, what is your take on Blake and Jess's relationship?

478
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: To go back on that when you say part of

479
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 2: a clique, part of a group, No, he was just

480
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: focused on Jess.

481
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was.

482
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 2: It wasn't like yeah, it was it was just yes,

483
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: got it?

484
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: And what's your Yeah, what what is your take on

485
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: on their relationtionship at this point? Because now we do

486
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: see them get back together?

487
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: Yeahah, because we asked. We asked Tanner when he was

488
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 4: on a few weeks ago. We did like kind of

489
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 4: a run through of the relationships with Tanner as well.

490
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 4: And his take at that point was like it seemed

491
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 4: kind of surface level. It just seemed like, you know,

492
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 4: they sit together their boyfriend and girlfriend, but like there's

493
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 4: not a lot going on there. But he's obviously like

494
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 4: I'm an outsider looking in, you know, I don't know

495
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 4: their private conversations. Now a lot has happened in the

496
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 4: last two weeks with Blake and Jess. He went on

497
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 4: that date. We see them kind of back together. When

498
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: you're on the beach, you're kind of like looking at

499
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 4: what's going on there.

500
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: What's your take?

501
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: I My take is like on board with it first

502
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: of all, which which is fine. I think the most

503
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: healthy relationships are actually kind of boring at times. I do.

504
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: I don't think they should be Phillip chaos and drama.

505
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: I think the best relationships can be a little bit boring, Okay,

506
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: And maybe that's just their personalities that I was like, Okay.

507
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: I feel like Jess came in with this idea that

508
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: she really wanted to do paradise the way that most

509
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: people do paradise, which is like day a round, and

510
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 2: I think she was she met Blake and maybe didn't

511
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: necessarily expect Blake to be so into her, and it

512
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: made it harder for her to like pull away and

513
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: want to do Paradise, even if that meant coming back

514
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: to Blake, which is you know what we see. So

515
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: I think she just didn't expect that Paradise experience for herself,

516
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: and I think Blake kind of went in knowing what

517
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: he wanted and so they were playing. They just had

518
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: different expectations of what their experience was going to be,

519
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: and I think that's what's kind of pulled them apart

520
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 2: and now, you know, circling back around. I think Jess,

521
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: I mean, Jess is like I think Blake is in

522
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 2: his thirties. I think Jess is still a little young.

523
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 2: So I think maybe that you know, the age thing

524
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: could be like, you know, Blake might be like, let's

525
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: you know, I'm ready to like find my person sell

526
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: down and just maybe like I'm still I'm here to date. No.

527
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: So I think ultimately that's what it comes down to

528
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: for me.

529
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that. I think that reads.

530
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: I think that makes makes sense. What what are your

531
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: thoughts on the because we've been pretty opinionated on the

532
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: whole Cat John Henry and Olivia situation and where we're

533
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: at now we see John Henry choose this Cat, and

534
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: when I say opinionated, I'm more like these past few episodes,

535
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: it has seemed like Olivia is like John is basically

536
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: saying John Henry like is being manipulated by Cat and

537
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: can't make a decision. But it kind of seems like

538
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: John Henry's into Cat. So I don't know, just like

539
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on it all?

540
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: So I I love Olivia and I love Cat, and

541
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: it's actually it took me a little bit of time

542
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: to like get to know both of them. But by

543
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: the end of like those are like they're like a

544
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: cough for me. I actually love that Cat went for

545
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: what she wanted. I'm watching that being like go girl

546
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: like almost like I wish I had the balls to

547
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 2: like do that. And I think it's John Henry's nature

548
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: to be laid back and that he needed someone like

549
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: Kat to come in and be like, I like you,

550
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: I want to pursue this. So I'm letting you know

551
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: if there's any bit of something there, like let's let's

552
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: go in that direction. And I think I don't think

553
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: he's being like manipulated at all. I think there was

554
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: some attraction there to Kat on his end, and now

555
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: he's just getting the green light to like move in

556
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: that direction. I think it's I think it's good. I'm

557
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: I'm I support it.

558
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 3: To be honest, I agree with you.

559
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 4: I think he needs he is so laid back. He

560
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: needs someone like a cat. Yeah, passive almost. That's like

561
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: she is taking charge of that relationship and like he's

562
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: not like an innocent vice stand or he's like okay, yeah,

563
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 4: like I'm down for this too. But she's like this

564
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 4: is what's happening, and he's like, Okay, let's do it.

565
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 4: And she needs someone that's chill, like it's a good balance.

566
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. But did he did he like Olivia? Because it

567
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: did seem it also did seem like he was into Olivia.

568
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: It did. I came in and like I didn't really see.

569
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't see like I can see when

570
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: I'm there. I'm like I can see a cat and

571
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: John Henry and like it makes sense to me. I

572
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: just didn't see the dynamic between Olivia and John Henry

573
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: for me just didn't work. Like it just didn't didn't

574
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: for me, just didn't like make sense from a relationship standpoint.

575
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: Whenever I would like see them as like, to me,

576
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: it's like a friend. Buy Yeah, But I think he

577
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: I think he was definitely like attracted to her, and

578
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: she's amazing and funny and such a great person. I

579
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: just think that. I just think Kat's more is tight,

580
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: okay when it comes down to that. And I don't

581
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: know if he even knew Kat was an option until

582
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: she literally presented herself and was like here here I

583
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: am so I adore Olivia and I feel for her

584
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: going through this because I was in that situation. I

585
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: was in that situation in Canada where I, you know,

586
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: I thought I had something that was going well and

587
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: then seeing someone come in and try and break it down,

588
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: it's such a crappy feeling and I don't I don't

589
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: want anyone to feel like that. I mean, but it's paradise,

590
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: and you.

591
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: Know that's what would be What would be your advice

592
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: is so you were you're saying you were basically Olivia

593
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: in the Canadian situation, correct, what would be your advice

594
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: to her?

595
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: Throw out the trash, literally tie it up and throw

596
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: it away. Just be like, I'm not I'm not going

597
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: to be like a maybe it's like a fes or

598
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: it's a no. So it's like, just gone even if

599
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: even if that means you're not getting rose and you're

600
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: going home, so be it. Let it go. Yeah, I

601
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: like them. I love that. Let them like, let them.

602
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: Like if he wants to go Datecat, like, just let

603
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: him go down.

604
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: Let them.

605
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I like that too. Were you surprised

606
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: and when Brayden gave his rose to Olivia and she

607
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: ends up saying because that was a crazy rose ceremony

608
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: because we didn't know where Tanner's rose was going and

609
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: we didn't know where Braden's rose was going.

610
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm like, damn, like I gotta get

611
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: in with the girls because I am out of the loop,

612
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: like what is happening? And so I was just I think, like,

613
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: I hope they should. I hope they see more of this.

614
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: But my face was like this, I was completely shocked,

615
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: Like what.

616
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: That's kind of fun though, it's kind of fun to

617
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: be in.

618
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: That's it.

619
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so that you know that, the episode basically

620
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: it's left on a cliffhanger. Michael walks down and he

621
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 1: he you're one of the girls that he pulls. What

622
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: are you interested in? Potentially going on a date if

623
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: you Pete had this cover any conversation about like exclusivity

624
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: or anything like that.

625
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: So we hadn't We haven't had the exclusivity talk. But

626
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: I told Michael that I would go on the date.

627
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: And I don't think Peter loved that.

628
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Okay, but what did he? Do you think he knew? Like,

629
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: do you think he did? You think? Are you guys

630
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: on the same page.

631
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: I feel like we had the conversation where I'm like, yeah,

632
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: if you get off on a date, you should totally

633
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: go because we want to have the full Paradise experience.

634
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: You know, How do you just say that even if

635
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: you don't mean it? But I'm pretty sure sure I said.

636
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: I think I told him. This is terrible. I'm sorry

637
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: I told him that I would go on the date.

638
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: What's happening right now is I remember having I remember

639
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: like backpedaling a bit. I remember being like, that wasn't smart.

640
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: The guys have roses. I just said I'd go on

641
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: a date with somebody else, and I think I remember

642
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: being like, I shouldn't have done that because I don't

643
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: think he liked that answer.

644
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 4: Mmm, okay, so this is probably the first time like

645
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 4: you're moving from everything's just casual get to know each

646
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: other's zone with Peter to like you're moving into that

647
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 4: zone of.

648
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: Like where is this going? What are we doing?

649
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: I kind of wanted to like maybe test that dynamic

650
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: and be like, yeah, I'm gonna go on a date

651
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: and be like you do with that, and then when

652
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: it's like not okay about it, I'm like, I'm just kidding.

653
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go yeah.

654
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well now I'm trying to fill you out. I'm

655
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: actually curious. I don't know if you go on this date.

656
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: I want. I want to know because that's why it's

657
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: really between her and Olivia, because the other two seem

658
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: to be in more serious relationships, except for Mercedes because.

659
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Speaker 3: Who knows what kind of Mercedes.

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Speaker 1: But the whole beach really wants Olivia to get this date.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm curious. I'm curious to see what happens.

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Speaker 4: Okay, while we're chatting about all the other couples, I'm

663
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Speaker 4: loving doing the couple rundown with you, Sam. The one

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Speaker 4: couple that I feel like we have the hardest time

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Speaker 4: figuring out in this last episode what's going on with

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Speaker 4: them is Eliza and Aaron B. We see Kat tells

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Speaker 4: e Liza about his ex girlfriend drama they have the

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Speaker 4: conbo charity comes down, like so much unfold and then

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Speaker 4: Aaron B Is like all in on Eliza and she's like, we'll.

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Speaker 2: See yeah, so yeah again. That was like the meme

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Speaker 2: where it's like the mathic vision.

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Speaker 4: Or like or bored, I don't know what like, or

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00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 4: you're like trying to put all the pieces together.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't pick up on that. I got that

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00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 2: from Aaron B. Because Aaron B and I would be

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00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: up early in the morning and I'd be like, you know, hang,

677
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: what's up, and he's like not feeling good, not feeling great,

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Speaker 2: and like I kind of had to get filled in

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00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: and like, honestly, for me, like ex girlfriends are ex

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00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: girlfriends for a reason, and I understand that maybe he's

681
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: fumbling on the words trying to explain the situation because

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00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: he probably didn't really feel like any of that was

683
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Speaker 2: going to happen. I don't ever want to hear about

684
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: your ex girlfriend. I don't care about your ex girlfriend

685
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: until there's a problem, you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 2: so for me, it was like, come on, guys, you

687
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: guys got something great here, like let's like focus on that, like,

688
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 2: let's just move forward to me. It screams more when

689
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: you're looking for some way out and you're like, you know,

690
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: that's it. I'm like, I'm like changing my whole mindset

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Speaker 2: around this situation.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna Okay, so I'm gonna stop you there,

693
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Speaker 1: because that's how that is how I'm reading the situation.

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Speaker 1: I feel like almost it almost is starting to seem

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Speaker 1: like Eliza's not is into into him and wants a

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00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: way out.

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00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Joe's like, I feel like she's considering she

698
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: wants to use this piece of information, this little bit

699
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 3: of drama, as her way out of the relationship.

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Speaker 2: That's the same way that I feel to Ben. Okay,

701
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: yeah I do, And like I think too, when you're

702
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: presented the information from like someone that you don't know,

703
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: and it's in this world where you're like everyone's gonna

704
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: think I'm an idiot, But what really matters is the

705
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: relationship that you have and the person that you are presented. Right, So,

706
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Speaker 2: I think it's hard to see it really for what

707
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: it is, and that if you don't push through that,

708
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: then most likely it is an.

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Speaker 3: Out and right, right, yeah, and you know, we do

710
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: see Aaron B.

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Speaker 4: Like I don't he did the best job of explaining

712
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 4: himself necessarily, but I don't think he's necessarily like insanely

713
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 4: guilty of anything here. And he clearly is fighting for

714
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: the relationship like that, he's trying really hard. He's sending

715
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 4: her breakfast, he's like reassuring her.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, he wants he does.

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Speaker 2: He's a man on the beach. He's putting in the

718
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Speaker 2: most work to show her that he cares.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I say, okay, So who would you say as

720
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Speaker 4: a stronger couple then Aaron and Eliza or Avan and Kylie.

721
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Speaker 4: Just from like the outside of perspective at this point.

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Speaker 2: Okay, every couple needs to go through adversity. There has

723
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Speaker 2: to be a challenge to get through so that you're

724
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Speaker 2: like stronger. So I would probably say Eliza and Aaron

725
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: B right now, because Kylie and Avan have just had

726
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: like no like everything's just been kind of chill.

727
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I just feel like.

728
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 2: They're pretty close, like even and Kylie, like there's no drama,

729
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: there's no nothing, So maybe yeah, there's a little bit

730
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Speaker 2: more strength there. Who knows what's going to happen if

731
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Speaker 2: they go through adversity. So I do think that you've

732
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Speaker 2: got to go through something to get stronger. So I

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Speaker 2: guess I'll have to wait and see.

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Speaker 1: You want to play a game with us?

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Speaker 2: I would love to playing game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's play a game. Anyone, any anything else you

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Speaker 1: want to say though, anyone you want to talk about,

738
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: or anything anything you feel is left unset.

739
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 3: Any drama you want to let out?

740
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: More sam screen time, like come on, like, let's just

741
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: like hump it up, even if it's just like gibbers,

742
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: put me on the screen, put me, let's go, let's go.

743
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: That's it.

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00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: Love it all right?

745
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: Should we do it? Rapid fire questions? All right, so

746
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 3: first thing it comes to your mind? Rapid fire?

747
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 4: Nothing, just all fun, easy questions. Are you more of

748
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 4: an introvert or an extrovert?

749
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Speaker 2: Extrovert?

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Speaker 3: What is your go to paradise cocktail?

751
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: I was drinking blachistotal lines.

752
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 3: Mmmmm those always end up kind of watered down in

753
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: my opinion.

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00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right, a.

755
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 4: Little more soda in line than his vodka. What is

756
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: the first thing you would buy if you won the lottery?

757
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh g you war him?

758
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 3: What is your dating deal breaker?

759
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: Rude, rude, rude people.

760
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 3: M If you could go on any other reality show,

761
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 3: what would it be?

762
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars?

763
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 3: Same?

764
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: Is that a reality show?

765
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a reality show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

767
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 3: What is your love language?

768
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: Words of affirmation? Oh?

769
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Speaker 4: Did Peter give you words of affirmation? He sounds like

770
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 4: an active service guy the way you described him.

771
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah when when I needed it he did

772
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: at times. Yeah.

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00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: What was the first concert you ever attended?

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Speaker 2: Adele?

775
00:39:59,160 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one.

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00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, first good concert.

777
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Speaker 3: No that you can't just pick the best one.

778
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Speaker 2: Okay, first concert like some forty one? Maybe.

779
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good one.

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Speaker 4: That's a good first concert of What is your favorite dessert?

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00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: Uh? Cule.

782
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Speaker 3: What is the most important item to pack for paradise?

783
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: The most important item to pack for paradise myself? Tennor?

784
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm dad. What is one thing that

785
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: makes Canada better than the US? Just one?

786
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Speaker 2: Jeez? All of our personalities compared to you. I'm just kidding.

787
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: Wow, wow does dig at the people? All right?

788
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Speaker 2: Sam?

789
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much for coming on.

790
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 2: So much.

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00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,200
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794
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795
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Speaker 2: Right,