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Speaker 1: having a great day. At an unbelievable weekend, Right, big

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Speaker 1: time college football, time pro football, we got a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about. We had a lot to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know because the sports counter

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Speaker 1: is so weird, right, Like mondays are really hard to

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Speaker 1: talk about college football. We're gonna start by talking about

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Speaker 1: college football, but we're not going to talk about the

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Speaker 1: fact that Ohio States kicker missed like a two yard

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Speaker 1: field goal to tie the Big Ten Championship game, which

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Speaker 1: is a stunner. And Indiana and Kurt Signetti literally called

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Speaker 1: his shot, called his shot two years ago when he

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Speaker 1: got and he's done it. It's remarkable. And yet I

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Speaker 1: and Indiana is the number one seed. It's not really

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Speaker 1: where we want to go with it. But I just

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Speaker 1: if there is any more kind of bizarro sign of

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Speaker 1: the times and how college sports is evolving in that

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Speaker 1: Indiana when we finally have a college football tournament, if

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Speaker 1: you will, is the number one seed. And they played

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Speaker 1: Ohio State and Big Ten Championship they played at Oregon

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Speaker 1: won both those games. They're undefeated, right, They did beat

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Speaker 1: Penn State. Granted it was after Penn State lost its quarterback,

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Speaker 1: lost its coach, but whatever, they won those games. Indiana

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Speaker 1: is the number one team in the country and the

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Speaker 1: regular season is complete. That is if that is crazy

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Speaker 1: crazy crazy h but it's not the topic of the day.

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Speaker 1: It remains in the state of Indiana. It's the fact

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Speaker 1: that No, Tra Dame is not in the College Wall Playoff,

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Speaker 1: is not in the College Wall Playoff. Why is that? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, do we really need to to put it

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Speaker 1: out there? The college football Playoff, which of course was

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Speaker 1: and James Madison is in. James Madison is in, Tulane

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Speaker 1: where we as media, we just wear the worst, right

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Speaker 1: like James Madison and or as fans, you're the worst.

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Speaker 1: James Madison and Tulane they've both lost their coaches and

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Speaker 1: yet they're still playing in the Collegewell Playoff. And it

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Speaker 1: wasn't made to a big deal that their coaches are

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Speaker 1: coaching their team in the College Wall Playoff. But Obyss

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Speaker 1: it was made into a massive, massive deal. And Lane

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Speaker 1: Kiffin can't coach, but his head, his offensive coordator, Charlie

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Speaker 1: Weise junior can coach. But we're here. Don't kid yourself.

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Speaker 1: We're here because we're trying to be fair in a

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Speaker 1: completely unfair sport. That's what we're trying to do. We're

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Speaker 1: reality of it. The reality. It's not to say that

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Speaker 1: is literally point zero zero zero zero zero zero zero

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Speaker 1: just are not. Because the attrition of every game in

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Speaker 1: by automatic qualifiers from the we call it the Power five,

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Speaker 1: not even really the Power four. It's really the power too,

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Speaker 1: What it is. So, because we want so badly to

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame has said and done everything exactly the way

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Speaker 1: I would do it. They have every right to be

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Speaker 1: pested at the ACC, every right, every single right to

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Speaker 1: from inevitably saying, well, Notre Dame, should they have been in?

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Speaker 1: Should they not be in? Let's see how they play

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Speaker 1: in the bowl game. When half the guys don't play.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Florida State thing. Florida State should I

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Speaker 1: the bowl game, and they're like, see, Florida State's a phony,

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Speaker 1: Like no, they I didn't think they were good enough,

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Speaker 1: And you're trying to develop your culture while having a

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Speaker 1: great trip. But the bowl games no longer mean anything,

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Speaker 1: and Notre Dame actually separated themselves as a serious college

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Speaker 1: fotball program. Hey, we're just in to win a championship.

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Speaker 1: We got to the finals last year. We lost two

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna fake it and go to a bowl

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Speaker 1: not what anybody cares about it anymore. And half the

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Speaker 1: they do play in the bowl game, won their risk injury.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame has had that a traumatic injury about a

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Speaker 1: decade ago in the Cotton Bowl. And then two I

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Speaker 1: even coaching in college athletics, but I do know what

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Speaker 1: Pete Bavakua said is true. Like there's some unwritten rules

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Speaker 1: that everybody knows about conferences, Right, you can criticize somebody

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Speaker 1: within your own conference. Dan's a gigantic Big Ten fan,

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Speaker 1: not done. Just not done. You know, I'm in the

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Speaker 1: Here's Peter Vaka earlier today, he was on with Dan Patrick.

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Speaker 3: We're frustrated with the process, not the teams. They're all

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Speaker 3: great teams, and it's a bunch of teams. BYU has

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Speaker 3: a great argument, Texas, Vanderbilt, Miami, Alabama, Notre Dame. We

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Speaker 3: all have great arguments. It's the process that bothers us.

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Speaker 4: Well, those ranking shows bother me, Pete, because well They bother.

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Speaker 3: Me too, because you know, if we just said, well,

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Speaker 3: We're in, we're in. Take care of business, take care

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Speaker 3: of business. And hey, you know what, Notre Dame. You're

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Speaker 3: of the conference tie ins and Miami beat you, and hey,

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Speaker 3: I get it. But these ranking shows, as I said yesterday,

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Speaker 3: doing everything necessary. And then, like I said, it just

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Speaker 3: I've heard Dan that has me feeling better about it.

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Speaker 3: I have tremendous respect for Miami, you know, the great team,

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Speaker 3: done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference and

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Speaker 1: I will point out that while I believe he's right,

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Speaker 1: don't think that he manages Notre Dame's social media, Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame on Saturday, when the Big twelve Championship game was

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Speaker 1: being played, they posted the logo of Texas Tech on

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame's social media sites. Okay, now that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: they don't have to. It's the they're Catholic, they don't

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Speaker 1: have to support Mormons. They can say whatever they want

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Speaker 1: about respecting BYU and their opponents or whatever. That was

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Speaker 1: a little gamesmanship. We're cheering for, you know, we're cheering

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Speaker 1: like we're in, which is what most people thought. Only

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Speaker 1: it didn't happen that way. So there is a slight

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Speaker 1: lack of professionalism, and I will totally grant you. And

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Speaker 1: Vavaqua doesn't manage or micro manage the social media handle

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Speaker 1: of the football program. But there was a little little there.

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Speaker 1: Now but now BYU's not a conference brethren, not a

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Speaker 1: and so maybe that goes out the window. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What I do know is he's right, the ACC you

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Speaker 1: Miami's good enough, it doesn't have to be Miami versus

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Speaker 1: This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. You listen to Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Hmm, I got a lot of good stuff

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Speaker 6: What did you love?

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. I'm saying it's really really close,

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Speaker 7: They do, and but this is the problem, and this

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Speaker 7: the rest of the conference thinks. But even in Texas

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Speaker 7: A and M's case, like Vanderbilt, played a tougher schedule.

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Speaker 7: The game that Texas A and M ended up beating

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Speaker 7: Notre Dame doug Honestly, that two point conversion could have

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Speaker 7: been the difference between the Aggies making it into the

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Speaker 7: postseason or not. And I don't think that that's talked

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Speaker 7: about enough about Notre Dame and at least the chances

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Speaker 7: that they had where they could have beaten Miami, they

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Speaker 7: could have gotten the stop against Texas A and M

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Speaker 7: And if you make a play on that conversion, I

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Speaker 7: think it's a completely different story. So I get it

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Speaker 7: people took shots at Penn State not being good, and

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Speaker 7: so Indiana and Ohio State strength of schedule wasn't good

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Speaker 7: after the James Franklin firing. Are those that win against

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Speaker 7: Penn State wasn't as strong as a victory. That's sometimes

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Speaker 7: the way that the cookie crumbles. And I actually just

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Speaker 7: blame more of what's going on in college sports in

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Speaker 7: terms of now we're looking at resumes. It's like the

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Speaker 7: point between Texas and Vandy two schools that didn't make it,

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Speaker 7: was that Texas had five opportunities against high caliber competition.

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Speaker 7: Vandy had two, and part of the reason was because

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Speaker 7: of how that SEC schedule ended up, you know, shaking out.

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Speaker 7: And so this is not going to be anything new,

449
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Speaker 7: and it's probably going to lead to expansion because some

450
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Speaker 7: of these conference schedules are so awful. That's my love.

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Speaker 7: I loved extending that conversation.

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Speaker 1: Cool Jase Tuo.

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Speaker 4: I love when karma works. You know, I'm not a

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Speaker 4: religious person, but I do believe in karma. And I

455
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Speaker 4: know Sam's gonna get triggered by this because according to him,

456
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Speaker 4: anything that you can't physically prove doesn't exist. So you know, superstitions, God,

457
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Speaker 4: and I guess karma all fall under this. You can't

458
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Speaker 4: prove it, so it doesn't exist in your Rube and

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Speaker 4: or Trump supporter. If you feel that way, I will

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Speaker 4: say this the I love when karma works. So the

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Speaker 4: tweet of the day yesterday happened during the Chiefs Texans game.

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Speaker 4: The game is ten to ten. A pass is caught

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Speaker 4: by Rashi Rice and he is absolutely destroyed by a

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Speaker 4: Texan defender that I'm not sure the name of NFL

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Speaker 4: Memes at NFL Underscore Memes Rights. Rashi Rice finally under

466
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Speaker 4: finally understands what it feels like to get unexpectedly hit

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Speaker 4: at a high rate of speed and have the man

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Speaker 4: responsible leave the scene. This is the public shaming he deserves.

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Speaker 4: And when I talk about kar Moms, I loved hearing

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Speaker 4: stories about how OJ Simpson would be stopped on the

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Speaker 4: golf course somebody walk up and shake his hand, as

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Speaker 4: I've always wanted to meet a double murderer. So he

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Speaker 4: was publicly shamed for many years up until his death.

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Speaker 4: He died a miserable human being, and that's good. He

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Speaker 4: killed two people. Rashi Rice didn't kill anybody, thankfully. But

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Speaker 4: he thinks he got away with something. And when people

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Speaker 4: think they get away with things, that is when I

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Speaker 4: want karma to kick in times ten. And I will

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Speaker 4: say this. He dropped a pass later on in the game,

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Speaker 4: a crucial pass on fourth down, and I want to

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Speaker 4: say it's because he was hearing footsteps. I want to

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Speaker 4: say he was because he had alligator arms from this

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Speaker 4: hit that he received earlier in the game. Again, all

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Speaker 4: this is great. I love when good things happen to

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Speaker 4: good people, and I love when bad things happen to

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Speaker 4: bad people.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb show Fox Sports Trade a little Love and hate.

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Speaker 1: I was Sam Well.

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Speaker 8: I love the Packers win over the Bears.

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Speaker 9: Last year, the Packers struggled in the NFC North to

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Speaker 9: win divisional games. This year, they're four and oh a

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Speaker 9: great battle between the Bears and the Packers. It just looks,

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Speaker 9: you know, when it looked like the Packers were kind

494
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Speaker 9: of pulling away, the Bears made it a game, tied

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Speaker 9: it up, and it was a battle until the last

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Speaker 9: you know, thirty seconds or so. So as a Packer fan,

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Speaker 9: love to see this very competitive division. Maybe not as

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Speaker 9: stacked as like the NFC West, but you have three

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Speaker 9: teams with winning records. It's tough. This will only make

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Speaker 9: the Packers better. Love that they pulled this out in

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Speaker 9: the waning seconds.

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Speaker 1: M okay, I'll get to get to my love. I

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Speaker 1: love the Big Ten Championship game. I did. I love

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten Championship Game. I felt like both teams

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Speaker 1: played like they cared. And the fact that don't give

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Speaker 1: me that buyers buyers doing the.

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Speaker 7: Totally they didn't. It was Indiana Super Bowl. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's nothing Bowl on the game. Something they didn't care.

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Speaker 1: Hold on if a whiest they didn't care when they

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Speaker 1: have gone for a touchdown there instead of kicked the

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Speaker 1: field goal at the end of the game. Yeah, maybe

512
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Speaker 1: just get out of here, try to win. Yeah maybe, okay, uh,

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Speaker 1: But the bigger part of that game that I really

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Speaker 1: liked was the fact that nothing is ever a sure

515
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Speaker 1: bet with college kickers, right, Like it's a cliche, but

516
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Speaker 1: it is absolutely cliche because it's been proven true over time.

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Speaker 1: You like college kickers. Don't get me wrong, NFL kickers

518
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Speaker 1: will miss them too, But that one't seem because the

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Speaker 1: same kicker byer, wasn't he making bank shots in warm

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Speaker 1: ups where he's kicking it yeah, Like he's so good,

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Speaker 1: so good that he can literally I'm gonna hit it

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Speaker 1: off the left, upright, and then knock it in in

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Speaker 1: warm ups like he's good. And then the pressure of

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Speaker 1: winning a Big ten chance or sending it to overtime

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Speaker 1: Big ten championship, and then he lines up and just

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Speaker 1: pulls it wide left, and it's just one of those.

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Speaker 1: At some point you understand why they're in college not

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Speaker 1: in the pros. It doesn't mean the pros don't miss them,

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Speaker 1: but they don't miss those ones. They just don't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean unless you're the Minnesota Vikings against the Seahawks

531
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Speaker 1: and the playoffs outdoors that was like a decade ago,

532
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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more. But for the most part,

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Speaker 1: they don't miss those, and college kickers live down sometimes

534
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Speaker 1: those reputations you do, and you do still even though

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Speaker 1: they're getting paid now, you still feel bad for the kid.

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Speaker 1: Like man, he's still a kid like getting paid.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he missed two field goes last year against Michigan,

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Speaker 7: And I think this is the issue, Like you want

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Speaker 7: to talk about an achilles heel, it's what happens if

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Speaker 7: Ohio State has to go down and make a kick

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Speaker 7: and in that situation, I actually think that's what Ryan

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Speaker 7: Day wanted to see. All right, let's see what we've

543
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Speaker 7: got here, and he completely shanked it. It's nothing. I'm

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Speaker 7: not trying to anybody off the hook. It's a weird

545
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Speaker 7: angle at that point, but you got to make that kick,

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Speaker 7: like there is no doubt about that.

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Speaker 4: Can we talk about Brenana Mendoza for a one second.

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Speaker 4: He won the night with the SoundBite. I do have

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Speaker 4: a thought about this. So he's obviously more Kirk Cousins

550
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Speaker 4: than like Joe Montana. Like Joe Montana was a cool guy.

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Speaker 4: He was the guy in high school that all the

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Speaker 4: guys wanted to be, all the women wanted to be with.

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Speaker 4: Right the Tom Brady obviously, Fernando Mendoza's and the Kirk

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Speaker 4: Cousins of Nerdery. He's a complete goober and he won

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Speaker 4: the night in the post game up interview by doing

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Speaker 4: this right.

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Speaker 2: Oh, congratulations Indiana the Big ten champs.

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Speaker 8: How does that sound?

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Speaker 2: It sounds so beautiful.

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Speaker 8: I want to give all the glory to God.

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Speaker 9: We're never supposed to be in the decision before the

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Speaker 9: glory God, the great coach.

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Speaker 1: Is, great teams we have around us.

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Speaker 8: We were able to pull this off.

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Speaker 1: Whoever thought who should be here?

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Speaker 8: But now the who just or flipping champs.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: I will say this so the last person that was

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Speaker 4: this exuberant and gouberish forever lost his place in the

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Speaker 4: pre presidential candidacy.

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Speaker 10: We're going to California and Texas and New York, and

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Speaker 10: we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan,

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Speaker 10: and then we're going to Washington. See you to take

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Speaker 10: back in the White House.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you what Kurt Signetti saying on the podium

576
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Speaker 7: that his biggest goal is to now to get this

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Speaker 7: team down from this high in the next three and

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Speaker 7: a half weeks. That is a true statement. That is

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Speaker 7: a one hundred percent true statement. They get, yeah, you

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Speaker 7: you have to because I'm telling you in all of

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Speaker 7: those sound bites and everything that we've heard, like that

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Speaker 7: was the deal. Last year they lost at Ohio State.

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Speaker 7: It was a closer game than had actually the score indicated.

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Speaker 7: Indiana had a couple of miscues on special teams that

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Speaker 7: cost them. But like for Indiana to show that they're

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Speaker 7: still unbeaten, that to your point that they're number one

587
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Speaker 7: and tobid o Higre State in the Big Ten Championship

588
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Speaker 7: game is their ultimate goal now to try to reset

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Speaker 7: and try to win a national championship.

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Speaker 1: That will not be easy, I'll tell you. Plus I

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Speaker 1: mean either Bama or Ou in the Rose Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the difference here is now, look, these are new

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Speaker 1: Bama guys, these are new Ou guys, and Indiana has

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Speaker 1: they went and won the Big Ten Championship. They won

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Speaker 1: and won in Austin, and they spent a lot of money, Like,

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Speaker 1: let's not shut themselves. They probably have the second or

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Speaker 1: third biggest budget of anybody playing. Like Mendoza was at

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Speaker 1: Col last year, he was good at Col. Now he's

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Speaker 1: on a loaded team. But Bama or Ou playing in

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Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl, even though it's a weird Rose Bull

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Speaker 1: usually Big Ten it feels like every game in the

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Speaker 1: SEC is like that again, I don't know coming off

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Speaker 1: and whoever they play is going to come off a

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Speaker 1: win as well, so they'll have their confidence coming in

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Speaker 1: off a win. They got a week, they got two

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Speaker 1: weeks off before they play. I'm with you, it's really

607
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Speaker 1: really hard to get him back, get him back right.

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Speaker 1: Good thing is, you got a lot of time. Bad

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Speaker 1: thing is sometimes time is not actually your inter favor.

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Speaker 8: Did you guys?

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Speaker 9: Hear Kurt Signetti though, where he was like, and I

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Speaker 9: got my waists. He's like to humble and get the

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Speaker 9: guys hungry and humble again. He's like, we got to

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Speaker 9: get their head right. We gotta get him down from

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Speaker 9: this cloud. And I have my ways, and I'm just

616
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Speaker 9: wondering what those ways are. Like, we're talking what five

617
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 9: am kinda I don't know, drills and conditioning and just get.

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Speaker 8: That joy out of you. We gotta get hungry again.

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Speaker 8: I don't know. I just I have my waist. It's

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Speaker 8: caught that little bit.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, let's get to what we hated from the weekend.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with the resident hater, Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 4: I hate the San Francisco Giants, and I hate any

624
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Speaker 4: player that gets into the Hall of Fame from the

625
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Speaker 4: Giants that did it on farcical numbers. It was it

626
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Speaker 4: was told to us that the something called the National

627
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 4: Baseball Hall of Fame contemporary air voters voted Jeff Kent

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Speaker 4: into the Hall of Fame. Now, he was not voted

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Speaker 4: in the traditional way by the people that matter, the

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Speaker 4: sports writers and the people that decide these things, So

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Speaker 4: he got in through the back door by this field

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Speaker 4: called contemporary era voters. If you take out the numbers

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Speaker 4: that he had with the Giants, he's not a Hall

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Speaker 4: of Famer, even if you include the numbers with the

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Speaker 4: Giants and the context that he batted behind a guy

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Speaker 4: that had a five hundred op on base percentage for

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Speaker 4: his time there with the Giants because he was very

638
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Speaker 4: much on roids. I think that those things are the

639
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Speaker 4: underreported people in the Hall of Fame discussion, not the

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Speaker 4: actual people that were caught doing steroids or we know

641
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Speaker 4: very much that they did steroids, But how about the

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Speaker 4: players that were helped around them that their numbers are

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Speaker 4: inflated because of them. Jeff Kent was the benefactor of

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Speaker 4: the worst cheater in the history of the game. He

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Speaker 4: should not be rewarded with the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Love it? Uh damn byer.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just on the heels of that too as well.

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Speaker 7: Like everybody wants Dale Murphy in right, Like, just put

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Speaker 7: him in. Guess what the Hall of Fame is for

650
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Speaker 7: the fans as well. It's not like he's unworthy. He

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Speaker 7: has a resume of it, uh to back it up

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Speaker 7: of being in the Hall of Fame. Yes, I'll say this.

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Speaker 7: I hate the first round of the college football Playoff.

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Speaker 7: I hate it. Oklahoma, great, they beat Alabama. Now they

655
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Speaker 7: gotta beat him again the first round.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't like that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it stinks. Hey, guess what we get to see

658
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Speaker 7: two Lane and Ole Miss again. Just the reason that

659
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Speaker 7: we were so excited for a college football playoff in

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Speaker 7: the first place, right, seeing all these schools going to

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Speaker 7: different parts and hosting games. Nobody ever said I want

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Speaker 7: to see two Lane and Ole Miss. Something else. No

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Speaker 7: one ever said I want to see James Madison at Oregon. Like,

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Speaker 7: this first round of the playoff is awful and it's Yeah,

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Speaker 7: it stinks. Figure out a better way to do it.

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Speaker 7: But because there's going to be no momentum until New

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Speaker 7: year's eve in January first, for this playoff, the NFL

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Speaker 7: is going to slaughter college football in that opening weekend.

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Speaker 7: That's what I hated.

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Speaker 9: Revived my memory here, Dan, Tulane and ole Miss played

671
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Speaker 9: already this earlier this year. Yes, oh yeah, that's Rematches

672
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Speaker 9: like that are not it's hard to get excited for. Listen,

673
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Speaker 9: nobody really cares about this game because it's a bowl

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Speaker 9: game and not in the playoff. But Iowa's draw for

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Speaker 9: the reliah Quest Bowl on December thirty first, at nine

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Speaker 9: am Pacific time, twelve Eastern. They're taking on a team

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Speaker 9: that was snubbed, not snub but on the periphery of

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Speaker 9: the playoff in Vanderbilt. Not thrilled about this matchup. Diego

679
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Speaker 9: Pavia is playing. This is a really really good ten

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Speaker 9: and two Vanderbilt team that put up points and can't

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Speaker 9: say that I'm super thrilled about the Relia Quest Bowl

682
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Speaker 9: at Raymond James Stadium and IOWA taking on a Vanderbilt

683
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Speaker 9: team that I guess has a fire under their butt.

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Speaker 9: I would assume, maybe not, maybe it's the other on

685
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Speaker 9: the opposite who knows, who knows, but they're a really

686
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Speaker 9: good team.

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Speaker 1: Dan there did you guys see the video of Diego

688
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Speaker 1: Pavia taking his offensive lineman to the UFC fight in

689
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Speaker 1: Vegas every weekend. I saw, I saw a caption I

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Speaker 1: think I sent to you guys if Axe Body Spray

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Speaker 1: was a person, that's so good.

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Speaker 9: Listen, man, I'm a little worried that Axe Body Spray

693
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Speaker 9: personified is gonna run up and down on Iowa. So

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Speaker 9: see he was laughing then, but that was that was funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna give you my hate. I hate all

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Speaker 1: these idiots are like cut Cob Sheets got it in

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Speaker 1: for said school because he worked for ESPN and he's

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Speaker 1: an sec walk. I'm also gonna point out that we

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Speaker 1: have people who work for us on Fox Sports Trading

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Speaker 1: and Fox Sports that are like, Oh, the ESPN guys

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Speaker 1: are anti Notre Dame. That's what they are because Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame is on a different network.

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Speaker 2: Some of Notre Dame's games are on ESPN. And I

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Speaker 2: don't want to tell you this, but Notre Dame rates

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Speaker 2: way better than a lot of college football programs. They

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Speaker 2: would love to have Notre Dame in the college football playoffs.

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Speaker 1: You sound like one of those basement dwelling what was

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Speaker 1: called conspiracy theorists who don't believe anything is real. Hey,

709
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: don't believe anything is real? Do people bring in their

710
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Speaker 1: own inherent biases about their conference versus others? Of course,

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Speaker 1: that's why when you have a committee, you gotta spread

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Speaker 1: out in terms of what conferences, what schools are represented.

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Speaker 1: But this idea that people on TV like a kirk okay,

714
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Speaker 1: now that when you're covering a game, most guys I

715
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Speaker 1: didn't do this, but most guys become like shills. It'll

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Speaker 1: happen in March. We know this, Dan, when you watch

717
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Speaker 1: the NCCH tournament, like everybody hills for the league, like, oh,

718
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Speaker 1: the Big twelve, second twenty five teams in Like, dude,

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Speaker 1: I get that the Big twelve wants you to do

720
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Speaker 1: their games, but you can't be that disingenuous. But again,

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Speaker 1: just the idea that networks, like a network like ESPN

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Speaker 1: doesn't want Notre Dame in is quite frankly, the stupidest

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Speaker 1: thing I've ever heard in my life. Everybody wants Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame on TV because people watch Notre Dame on TV.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not the same as they used to, but go

726
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Speaker 1: and look over the last ten years, the highest rated

727
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Speaker 1: games in college football. Alabama's like one, Texas right there,

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Speaker 1: and then Notre Dame's right there in third along with

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Like those are the big ones. So this

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Speaker 1: idea that networks have it out for your school is

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Speaker 1: just dumb. It's just dumb. It doesn't work that way,

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Speaker 1: or it's never worked that way. What do I know?

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Speaker 1: I just did twenty years of television at three different

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Speaker 1: networks and never once was like, hey guys, we got

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Speaker 1: to talk about the school because we have their conference

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Speaker 1: on our network more than anybody else. That's love an eight.

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Speaker 1: Does anybody else? And I know if you're listening on

741
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Speaker 1: the pod, you're like, why are you talking about Elvis?

742
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Speaker 1: But if you listen on the radio show, by the way,

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Speaker 1: get download the podcast anytimes Doug Gottlip Show Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio Show in its entirety appears in the podcasts. When

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Speaker 1: you hear a song like this, which is here comes

746
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Speaker 1: Santa Claus by Elvis Presley Dan Byr, do you do

747
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: the Elvis loop thing just like automatically, just kind of

748
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Speaker 1: try and do it just to do it.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure it comes natural to many. You know that

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Speaker 7: response immediate.

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Speaker 1: Sure, the the West Texas hiccup right is part of

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Speaker 1: that song. I don't know if very many men knows

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Speaker 1: who who who invented that one. We can we can

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Speaker 1: do a little old old country Western trivia if you'd like.

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Speaker 1: In the near future. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. What we learn from this weekend

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Speaker 1: Schador Sanders, What we learn from Packers Bears, What we

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Speaker 1: learn from the Kansasy Chiefs losing. Doug Gottlieb Show here

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Let's get you to Tom Telesco.

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Speaker 1: He joined just He's the former Chargers and Raiders general manager,

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Speaker 1: and he joins us every Monday and tells this what

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Speaker 1: we really really should know from this past weekend. Let's

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Speaker 1: work backwards Packers Bears. Now that we've seen the Bears

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Speaker 1: in the past two games against playoff caliber competition, what's

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Speaker 1: your read on how good the Bears actually are.

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Speaker 6: I definitely think they're a playoff team, and I think

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Speaker 6: yesterday you could see they really are a team like

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Speaker 6: Capital Letters team and not a team that just is

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Speaker 6: going to rely on their quarterback to bail them out

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Speaker 6: when they have to. I mean, they have an identity

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Speaker 6: on offense, especially with the running game. Their offensive line

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Speaker 6: has been strong, the defense has played well. So I

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Speaker 6: thought that was really for both teams, the Packers and

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Speaker 6: the Bears. There's a lot of positive that came out

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Speaker 6: of that game. But from the Bear standpoint, they just

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Speaker 6: have a real identity, which in the playoffs you need.

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Speaker 6: And obviously in the playoffs there's a good chance you're

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Speaker 6: going to play in the elements, and they can do

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Speaker 6: that with with their running game. And then I know

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Speaker 6: Caleb has not been as consistent as you would like,

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Speaker 6: but when they need to play, he can put he

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Speaker 6: can put his cap on when he has to make

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Speaker 6: a playoffside the pocket. He saw that yesterday. So I

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00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 6: was really impressed with the Bears, and I think as

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Speaker 6: he moved down the stretch this month, as they kind

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Speaker 6: of keep improving on offense in the passing game, which

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Speaker 6: they're going to have to do. But I thought they

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Speaker 6: went toe to toe with the Packers and and I

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Speaker 6: think you know both are going to be strong in

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Speaker 6: the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Chador Sanders, you were really impressed two weeks ago

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Speaker 1: this week, what's your impression.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I still am And I know a lot of

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Speaker 6: people probably didn't watch this game beginning to end, but

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Speaker 6: I did. And and you know, I understand the Titans

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Speaker 6: on defense, they're not great except for Jeffrey Simmons. But

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Speaker 6: on the flip side, the Browns offense, they don't have

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Speaker 6: a lot around Shador Sanders either. Their offensive line is

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Speaker 6: below average at best. And you know they have two rookies,

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Speaker 6: Harold Fan and the kish On Jenkins. Those two guys

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Speaker 6: are studs on offense, but other than that, they don't

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Speaker 6: have a lot. And I thought she did play outstanding.

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Speaker 6: I thought he stood in versus a rush. He can

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Speaker 6: take hits and deliver the ball. He showed really excellent accuracy,

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Speaker 6: and he can fetter the ball really when he has

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Speaker 6: to with touch, especially down in the red zone. He

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Speaker 6: showed down the one touchdown throw. He can put pace

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Speaker 6: on the ball when he has to, and he can

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Speaker 6: see the improvement as far as stepping up in the pocket.

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Speaker 6: The only one to throw the ball away, and you know,

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Speaker 6: he had a bad interception that he should have thrown away,

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Speaker 6: which kind of reminds you that, look, he's still a

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Speaker 6: rookie quarterback, but overall playing in tough conditions. You know,

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Speaker 6: he's almost four hundred yards of offense, four touchdowns. I

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Speaker 6: just thought he was really impressive really from the beginning

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Speaker 6: to end, and you're seeing the development there and it

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Speaker 6: is great that we can see him hopefully the next

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Speaker 6: four games to see if he keeps improving. But I

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Speaker 6: thought you need a lot a lot of NFL throws yesterday.

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Speaker 6: That looks like a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Stet Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. What about

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Speaker 1: cam Ward? If we redrafted this thing, would he still

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Speaker 1: going tober one overall?

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Speaker 6: That's a good question because what you see, you see,

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Speaker 6: all the flashes you saw on college you still see

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Speaker 6: right now in the NFL. It's just feud and far between.

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Speaker 6: But what the hard part is with cam and the

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Speaker 6: same thing with Shador to a certain extent too, they

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Speaker 6: don't have enough talent around them yet. There's a reason

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Speaker 6: why the Titans were picking that high in the first place,

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Speaker 6: and offensive line skill positions, but they've had some injuries,

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Speaker 6: obviously the head coaching change. He's in a real tough

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Speaker 6: spot right now, but you can see that athletic ability.

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Speaker 6: You can see the quick twitch, the way he gets

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Speaker 6: the ball out, and yeah, he still has all the

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Speaker 6: traits to be a top starting, starting quarterback in the NFL,

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Speaker 6: but he needs a lot more talent around him to

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Speaker 6: get there. It's going to take them a couple of

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Speaker 6: years probably to get enough talent there. But yeah, you

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Speaker 6: can still see that he probably would be He probably

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Speaker 6: still would be still first pick in the draft if

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Speaker 6: we did this all over again.

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Speaker 1: Stug otleb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Tom Telesco

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Speaker 1: is our guest. Of course, Tom was the GM of

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Speaker 1: the Raiders last year. Before that, eleven years the GM

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Speaker 1: of the San Diego and then La Chargers. Okay, some

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Speaker 1: post mortem on some teams who are quickly playing their

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Speaker 1: way out of the playoffs. I repeat, what is wrong

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Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 6: I don't think much wrong with with Lamar. I'm not

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Speaker 6: so much concerned about him. I mean, I think he

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Speaker 6: had some injuries the last month that probably slowed them

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Speaker 6: down a little bit. But just as a team, they've

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Speaker 6: been disappointing this year. Now, the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 6: their whole team, they were decimated with injuries. That kind

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Speaker 6: haven't gotten it going and really either side of the ball.

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00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 6: And they've got some ischues on offense right now. They've

859
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 6: got they're built to run the ball, and they still

860
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 6: run the ball well. But their two offensive guards are

861
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 6: big power guards, but they're not great and pospit that's

862
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 6: showing up a lot, and Lamar's had to move around

863
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 6: a lot more than you would like. And just the

864
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 6: skill positions at receivers, they flowers can only do so much.

865
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 6: You need some other compliment. And they don't throw the

866
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 6: ball a lot to be outside to the other receivers,

867
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 6: just don't a lot of targets. You know, it's mostly

868
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 6: the tight ends in the middle of the field. So

869
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 6: you know, the offense is just a little bit stagnant

870
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 6: right now, but Lamar is Lamar to me, I don't

871
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 6: see a decline in his play. And then defensively, their

872
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 6: defensive front was the one part that I thought would

873
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 6: be a concern this year. It's been a bigger concern

874
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 6: that I had anticipated. Their backstep is still very good,

875
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 6: but they've got some things in the offseason to work on.

876
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 6: There there's Sarah Tayler Linderbaum, which is outstanding player. He's

877
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 6: a free agent. They got to figure out the guard situation,

878
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 6: and they've got to have to have some more skill

879
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 6: outside to go as they flowers, just to give Lamar

880
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 6: some more options.

881
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: Tom Gelasco is our guest on The Doug Gottlieb Show.

882
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: How do you explain what's happened to Pat Mahomes in

883
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: that offense?

884
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 6: Again, it's been really they've played the same way all year,

885
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 6: even the games they've won. It's just been a ryan

886
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 6: They just can't manufacture any big plays, which is hard

887
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 6: to imagine because they do have some speed at receiver.

888
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 6: They still have Mahomes, obviously, they have Andy Reid, who's,

889
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 6: you know, one of the best play callers in the league.

890
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 6: It's the big issue, and it's been an issue for

891
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 6: a number of years, even when they're going to Super Bowls.

892
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 6: It's been the offensive wrying to tackle at full spots

893
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 6: and now they're playing with backups in those positions. That's

894
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 6: been an issue. But you know, when you have long

895
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 6: play drives, it takes you a long time to move

896
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 6: the ball down the field. It just increases your odds

897
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 6: and making a mistake, and they're just making more mistakes

898
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 6: than they ever have, and it's sometimes as snowballs players

899
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 6: that usually don't make them. There's a lot of drops,

900
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 6: a lot of missed assignments. The defense, which has really

901
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 6: held in a lot of games the last couple of years,

902
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 6: hasn't been as strong, especially on third downs and not

903
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 6: getting off the field as much as they used to.

904
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 6: But again, I don't see this as a Mahomes problem,

905
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 6: but this is probably gonna have to be a reset.

906
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 6: You know, this is a lot of years they've been

907
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 6: picking very low in the draft and making a run

908
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 6: every year and bringing in some free agencies and trades

909
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 6: for more on short term basis. But this may be

910
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 6: a little bit of a recent this year to get

911
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 6: a little bit younger on the defensive front, and you know,

912
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 6: just really start retool that offensive line, especially the tackle positions,

913
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 6: to get for home a little bit more time.

914
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: Stuck out Leap show here on Fox Sports, trader Tom

915
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: Telesco is our guest. You are uniquely qualified for these

916
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: next couple questions, right because you you very much lived this.

917
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: Let's start with the Indianapolis Colts. They they lost Daniel

918
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: Jones for the year with I don't know has it

919
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: been reported as an achilles or we know it's it

920
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: looks like a torn achilles, right, Okay, so the torn achilles? Okay,

921
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: you've worked with Shane stike in before. You actually was

922
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: interim offensive coordinator for a year before he left and

923
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: went to went to Philly, Right, who do you? Who

924
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: do you? How does it work right? Here?

925
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 6: We are?

926
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: We're December eighth. You've been in a similar situation where

927
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 1: I got to find a quarterback here you know who's

928
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: on the street, and I got a potential playoff team?

929
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: What's this? What's the process?

930
00:49:59,840 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 4: Like?

931
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: How does it work.

932
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 6: Well? At this point? Since you're past the trade deadline,

933
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 6: you're really your only chance is gonna have to be

934
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 6: somebody from your own roster at at this point, unless

935
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 6: you just get lucky and there's a quarterback who's on

936
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 6: the street who's been in a Shane STEAKSTI like an

937
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 6: offense before, I'd have to look it up for the

938
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 6: chances they are slim, So well call.

939
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, get him out of retirement, or or or

940
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: you go any of the Philly backups when he was there,

941
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: I guess is the only other ones?

942
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if you've seen Philip recently. I

943
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 6: mean he's coaching high school football. Think they're right now,

944
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 6: so I think that may not work. But look, I

945
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 6: think as as third quarterbacks go, and hopefully he's healthy,

946
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 6: but Riley Leonard, you could do worse than Riley Leonard

947
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 6: because what he has a side strength and athletic ability.

948
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 6: He could make some plays with his feet. And Shane's

949
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 6: very creative with the offensive scheme, and you're gonna have

950
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 6: to rely on Jonathan Taylor, and that's you're gonna see

951
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 6: a lot of Jonathan Taylor. Their offensive line is excellent

952
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 6: now with Riley Leonard. It was the same thing at

953
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 6: Duke because it wasn't Notre Dame look as a pastor

954
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 6: the city in making accuracy. It's not quite NS already yet.

955
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 6: But he's a big time athlete and he's a leader.

956
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 6: So he does give them a fighting chance with their

957
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 6: offensive line with Jonathan Taylor and with Shane Stichen. But

958
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 6: at this point, with four weeks ago in the year,

959
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 6: to go outside your team to find a quarterback to

960
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 6: come in and start very highly unlikely.

961
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Torod Taylor was your starter. You had drafted, you know,

962
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: you had drafted a guy who has now become an

963
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: absolute star for the for the La Chargers, right and

964
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. So Justin Herbert just had surgery on his hand,

965
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: and I guess he's gonna play. Before we get to Herbert,

966
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: what was that like during his first start as the

967
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: general manager when you found out about the injection gone

968
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: wrong for Torod Taylor?

969
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 6: Absolutely incredible because where I was up in the in

970
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 6: the suite break before kickoff and none of us do

971
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 6: what had happened? And all happened to right the four

972
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 6: kickoff obviously within like thirty seconds to a minute, and

973
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 6: we see Justin run onto the field and we're looking

974
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 6: at each other like, hey, you guys kind of holding

975
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 6: this back at a secret like absolutely not. So I looked

976
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 6: down and I thought Tarrod Taylor on the bench. I

977
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 6: saw them walking to Rod into the locker room, and honestly,

978
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 6: my first thought was what's wrong with Tarrod? So that

979
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 6: so I was on the phone with the doctors downstairs

980
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 6: in the locker room through that situation. Out. I missed

981
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 6: the whole first series that Justin drove us down for

982
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,959
Speaker 6: a score against Kansas City. Missed the whole thing because

983
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 6: we're trying to figure out with Tarrod Taylor where he

984
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 6: was and it was he okay. But the interesting whole

985
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 6: thing about that situation was this was the COVID year,

986
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 6: so there were no preseason games. There were no live

987
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 6: scrimmages against any other teams in the preseason. So Justin's

988
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 6: teammates and as coaches had never seen him play live.

989
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 6: They've seen him throw the ball in practice, they've seen

990
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 6: him you know, in a practice setting, but never live.

991
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 6: So his first play in that huddle was the first

992
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 6: time that had ever seen him play live football. And

993
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 6: Jim drive us down put a score in the end zone.

994
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 6: Was pretty cool. But situation obviously something I've never seen

995
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 6: of or been part of before, but it was kind

996
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 6: of a surreal experience.

997
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: All right, So tonight, what are your expectations? Philly doesn't

998
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: have their best pass rusher, but still a dynamic defensive

999
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: line against the Chargers team that has sort of stabilizer

1000
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: offensive line, but you know, down their two starting tackles

1001
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: for the year, it's not great. They've been able to somehow,

1002
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, get it to this point at eight and four.

1003
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: What do you think of the matchup?

1004
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing tonight is Omurray and Hampton

1005
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 6: back in the lineup. He's a big time running back.

1006
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 6: He's big, he's powerful, he runs with an identity with

1007
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 6: his physicalness. But he also has some speed if you

1008
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 6: can get out in space to finish run. So they're

1009
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 6: gonna have to run the ball as well as they

1010
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 6: can tonight. He's gonna give them a big jump, a

1011
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 6: big boost. I think I want to see how Justin

1012
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 6: Herbert maneuver is in the like just with handoffs with

1013
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 6: this left hand Rayhn, how he's going to do that.

1014
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 6: The play as should pass where they work on their

1015
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 6: center at all, we'll all be out of shotgun. I'm

1016
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 6: assuming it'll be on a shotgun, but we'll not tonight.

1017
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 6: But I think Canton could be a big part of this.

1018
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 6: It's a playoff game for the Chargers, no doubt. Eagles.

1019
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 6: I think they're good. They'll still be in but AFC

1020
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 6: is a little bit jumbled up right now. This is

1021
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 6: a big time game for the Chargers tonight.

1022
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: Awesome stuff, Tom, have a great weekend. Hope you had

1023
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: a happy Thanksgiving and a merry Christmas to you and

1024
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: your entire family. Thanks for our guests.

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Speaker 6: You've got to Doug any time, take care