1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. It's Monday, March three eighth. 2 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: We are in week two of quarantine. The President has 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: an update for how long these measures should be continued. 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: I'll share that with you. Plus the arrival of a 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: US Navy ship here in New York City preparing for 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: the deluge of cases to come in the weeks ahead, 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: and how does China factor into all this, plus the 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: politics around the coronavirus fight coming up on the Buck 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. This is the bus Sexton Show, where the 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: mission or mission is to decode what really matters with 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: actionable intelligence. Make no mistake. Here a great American again, 12 00:00:51,840 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show begins. He's a great guy. No, yeah, 13 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: I don't want high approval ratings for this. I wish 14 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: we could have our old life back. We had the 15 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: greatest economy that we've ever had, and we didn't have deaths. 16 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: We didn't have this, We didn't have this horrible scourge, 17 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: this plague, you call it whatever you want, the virus. 18 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: But we're working very hard. This all I know. You know, 19 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: I see things, I see numbers. They don't matter to me. 20 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: What matters to me is that we have a victory 21 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: over this thing as soon as possible. When you hear 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: that two point two million people could have died if 23 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: we didn't go through all of this, and now the 24 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: number will be, you know, a much lower number. Hopefully 25 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: it's going to be the numbers that we're talking about. 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: But so I appreciate it very much. But you know 27 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: what I want is I want our life back again. 28 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: I want our country back. I want the world back. 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: I want the world to get rid of this this again. 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty one countries and we're gonna do it. 31 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a great victory. Welcome to the box, 32 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: Sex and share everybody from here in New York City 33 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: to you all across the country and around the world. 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: The President giving voice to exactly what so many of 35 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: us are thinking right now. We want our lives back, 36 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: we want our country back, we want our world back. 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: And this virus has now shown people that it is 38 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: much more than was anticipated a couple of months ago. 39 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: The response to it is going to be a point 40 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: of difficulty and pain for a lot of people. And 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: what the economic ramivocations of this may be, nobody can 42 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: tell you yet. But we now are in it. We 43 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: are in this fight that really the last few weeks 44 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: it felt like preparation for here we are now trying 45 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: to establish all the supplies we need, the protocols and 46 00:02:53,080 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: the best possible practices for defeating a pandemic. That still 47 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: stunning that we're at this point right now, and it's 48 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: also a reminder of really how petty and how unserious 49 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: to so many of the political squabbles of the past 50 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: have been. Here we are desperately trying to come together 51 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: to create enough masks and ventilators, get all this personal 52 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: protective equipment in place. Here we are doing here, we 53 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: are doing everything in our power to try and find 54 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: a way forward that saves the maximum amount of lives, 55 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: while also trying to maintain some economic activity going forward, 56 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: or at least the ability to have an economy, because 57 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: lives also are quite clearly dependent upon that. Anyone who 58 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: doesn't think so should stop and ask will hold on 59 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: a second, If a shortage of ventilators is going to 60 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: cause death, where do the ventilators come from? We need 61 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: economic activity in this country, and the President certainly understands that. 62 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: But I must say yesterday at his press conference, it 63 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: was quite clear that there has been a change in 64 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: thinking from this administration to straight up lockdown. That's where 65 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: we are. We are in the national battened down the 66 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: hatches phase of this fight. The President had to tell 67 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: everybody that the member I had been telling you that 68 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: fifteen days, fifteen days to stop the spread. That was 69 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: the initial campaign, and we should give him the fifteen days. Well, 70 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: we've done that. We've gotten to week two of that. 71 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: And instead of thinking that we're anywhere near being finished, 72 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: what we have been told is the following. This was 73 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: the President yesterday, Bruce and Mark Plick Clip four. The 74 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: modeling estimates that the peak in death rate is likely 75 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: to hit in two weeks. So I'll say it again, 76 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: the peak, the highest point of remember this is likely 77 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: to hit in two weeks. Nothing would be worse than 78 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: declaring victory before the victory is one that would be 79 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: the greatest loss of all. Therefore, the next two weeks 80 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: and during this period, it's very important that every one 81 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: strongly follow the guidelines, have to follow the guidelines that 82 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: our great Vice President holds up a lot. He's holding 83 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: that up a lot. He believes in it so strongly. 84 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: The better you do, the faster this whole nightmare will end. Therefore, 85 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: we will be extending our guidelines to April thirtieth to 86 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: slow the spread. We are on quarantine here in New 87 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: York City and other cities as well. We are putting 88 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: in place maximum protective measures for another thirty days. Effectively, 89 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: that's where we're going to be. It's not going to 90 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: be made before you even have some restoration of normal 91 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: economic activity. It's going to be quite a while before 92 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: we see ourselves able to start to breathe more easily. 93 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: Pardon the expression, this was a tough one. Now, the 94 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: market didn't really react very negatively negatively to this today, 95 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: I think in part because the expectation is at the rescue, 96 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: the two trillion dollar rescue package is going to be 97 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 1: able to sustain the economy with all of the direct 98 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: cash infusions as well as these loans for small businesses, 99 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: that it'll sustain the economy for at least three or 100 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: four months, more or less. We'll see if that's correct. 101 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: Remember that no one's ever done this before. There is 102 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: no playbook for putting an economy at a deep freeze. 103 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: There's no precedent for a society as large as ours, 104 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: with the complexity that ours has, of telling people that 105 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: they have to stay at home, and in New York 106 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: it's getting particularly extreme. I'll bring you into Look, I 107 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: understand this is a show that many of you all 108 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: across the country here, but New York is the worst 109 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: hit place in the entire country right now with this, 110 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: and what you're seeing here is going to be replicated elsewhere, 111 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: the spread of the disease, the fight now it perhaps 112 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: the aggregate numbers here will be larger, but keep in 113 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: mind that the hospital system here, the hospital system here 114 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: is also larger and more complicated than what you would have, 115 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: more complex than what you would have in a vast 116 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: majority probably all other metro marias in the country, just 117 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: because of the size of New York City itself. So 118 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: the President said, look, give us until the end of April. 119 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: Give us until the end of April to get this 120 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: thing as under control as we can, and then we'll 121 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: look to start to have more normal economic activity. I 122 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: guess now we are really in the government's hands here 123 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: in a way that makes me deeply uncomfortable. I'm sure 124 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: many of you feel exactly the same way. There's that 125 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: I have two conflicting emotions about the government response. On 126 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: the one hand. I want to be optimistic and I 127 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: want to be cheerful about their prospects for long term success. 128 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing you can't be cheerful now, it's 129 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: it's bleak out there, my friends. But be optimistic, better word, 130 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: about the long term possibilities here, and I'm hoping for 131 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: the best from our government response. I'm also seeing a 132 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: combination of incompetence and dictatorial impulse from the people that 133 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: are in charge, specifically here in the Mayor of New 134 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: York City, but you'll see this elsewhere too. This is 135 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: going to be a stress test on our society and 136 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: on us, the likes of which we have never seen before, 137 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: this disease. At this point, based on what I'm hearing, 138 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: and I've spoken to numerous doctors who are dealing with 139 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: this problem themselves, and what they're telling me is this 140 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: is I thought it was going to be bad. Really 141 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: the last three weeks, I've realized that this is going 142 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: to be We're in for a real nightmare here. It's 143 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: the disease itself is worse than I had anticipated. I mean, 144 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a healthcare expert. I all I can do 145 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: is read what I read, read what I see. Everyone 146 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: reads what they read, but I am seeing now that 147 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: this is even a level beyond and there are younger, 148 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: healthier people, people in their forties and fifties, who are 149 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: needing to go in for emergency care and get intubated 150 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: on this. So look, you don't come here so that 151 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: I can tell you, oh my gosh, the sky is 152 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: falling and it's not. We're gonna be all right. As 153 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: I've been saying, we will get through this. As a country. 154 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: We certainly have better days ahead. And I think that 155 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: while we're preparing for this and trying to look at 156 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: all the most up to date information we can, it's 157 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: worth remembering that there will be there will be a 158 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: renewed sense that perhaps for you it might even start today, 159 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: an appreciation for the lives that we have been able 160 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: to lead in this country up to this point, and 161 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: a renewed appreciation down the line once we can return 162 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: to some degree of normalcy for really what we have. 163 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: I spent much of my time the first three years 164 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: of the Trump presidency on air, a lot of the time, 165 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: but I repeatedly said to you all, don't listen to 166 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: the people in the media. They're talking about all this 167 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: enjoy your life. You know this, who listen to the 168 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: show said, enjoy where we are. Unbelievable prosperity, relative peace, 169 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: no major terrorist attacks looming over our heads, no economic catastrophe. 170 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: All those things were true until year four. And as 171 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: we enter year four the Trump presidency, he got hit. 172 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: And this is the toughest thing that any American president 173 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: has been hit with since Pearl Harbor. Honestly, this is 174 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: the most And some of you would say, well, in 175 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: some ways, maybe even the Great Depression was a bigger 176 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: challenge than Pearl Harbor itself. We're gonna win, but I'm 177 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: just saying, you have to go back. This is one 178 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: hundred year challenge we're facing right now. Once every hundred 179 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: years of society like ours faces something like this. Now. 180 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: I do take a positive, long term view. I will 181 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: continue to do that. We have a lot to get 182 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: through here today. I've talked to doctors about the prospects 183 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: of these different drugs. The Gilead anti viral drug, the 184 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: drug that's actually used to treat gout. It's been around 185 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: for a very long time, an old drug up in Montreal. 186 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: There's also chloroquin and a zithromycin there's serology tests to 187 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: look at your blood and see if you have anybodies. 188 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot of new weapons, just like in any war. 189 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: I mean, those of you who are history buffs. No, 190 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: if you go back to the First World War, Second 191 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: World War, the speed of munition development during a war, 192 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: it's like nothing else because there's a really obvious and 193 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: immediate need for better weapons. We are going to see that, 194 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: I believe, with this disease, we are going to see 195 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: a weaponization of the medical community's knowledge against this virus 196 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: at an unprecedented pace. And it's necessary because this virus 197 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: is even more contagious and nasty and dangerous than a 198 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: vast majority of people who are following it anticipated. This 199 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: thing is. This is bad. It's so bad that you 200 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: start to wonder this really just occurred naturally in nature. 201 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: This wasn't anything that any human beings anywhere around the 202 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: world perhaps had any hand in messing with. Again, I 203 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: don't know, but it's a question. We have to leave 204 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: open the possibility until we really know what happened here. 205 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: I feel like we have to leave open a lot 206 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: of possibilities. We've been lied to a lot. We're being 207 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: lied to you right now by the Chinese government. Every 208 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: day they're saying they have no new cases. We'll get 209 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: to that. But on the upside here, as I've been saying, 210 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: you will appreciate your life more than you ever have, 211 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: and we are through this. I think that's my belief. 212 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: I certainly will. I'll appreciate little things about life. And 213 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: there's also a closest now that you feel with the 214 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: people that you love. There's a recognition we are all 215 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: We've always been on borrowed time. Now we know we're 216 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: on borrowed time. Now we've been reminded in this era, 217 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: we're all trying to extend youth, you know, into the 218 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: end of a century of our own lifespan. Right, we'll 219 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: all think we're going to live forever and ever and 220 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: be healthy forever and ever. And you know that lessons 221 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: a little bit as you get older. But now you 222 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: know these people that in their twenties and their thirties 223 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: thinking about mortality, thinking about societal collapse, that just never 224 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: really enters your mind. It doesn't really come up. And 225 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: we see that all societies have dealt with this stretching 226 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: back for all of human history, pestilence, plague, this has 227 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: been around for as long as we've been gathering, since 228 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: we came out of the caves and came together and 229 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: started farming and having something that we would call now 230 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: a society. So this is not new in that sense 231 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: at all. But this particular virus reminds us that we 232 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: can all walk around with supercomputers in our pockets that 233 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: we call smartphones, with instantaneous computation, with technology, with communications 234 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: that seem like they're from an alien race compared to 235 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: what we would have had even forty or fifty years ago. 236 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: And yet someone somewhere becoming infected with something you can't 237 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: even see has brought modern society to this point where 238 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: we are in a real fight. We're in a fight 239 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: the likes of which we've never seen before. As I 240 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: said to you, this is a once in a hundred 241 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: years challenge, and you know, it really does take us back. 242 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: There's nothing like this that we have faced in one 243 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: concentrated dose. Yes, the Cold War nuclear weapons staring at 244 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: each other across the line of mutually assured destruction and 245 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: all that, but that was long and drawn out, and 246 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: there was always in the back of our minds some 247 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: sense that you can deal with human beings human beings, 248 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: you can understand even if they don't have remorse, if 249 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: they don't have any sense of decency, which is usually 250 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: not the case. They all have weak points, right the 251 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: immortal words of Schwarzenegger and Predator. If it bleeds, we 252 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: can kill it. Viruses don't bleed, we do. And so 253 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: we are at a disadvantage in that respect, and we 254 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: are mobilizing our society against something that has the ability, 255 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: unfortunately to hit us now and come back and hit 256 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: us again in the future. This will change us forever. 257 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: I'll be thinking more in the weeks ahead as we 258 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: do this show, and this show really has become a 259 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: lifeline for my sense of connection and quite honestly a 260 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: continued stability and sanity in the midst of being in 261 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: quarantine in New York City. But this will also change us. 262 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: This whole process we're going through, we're seeing right now 263 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: of dealing with this virus will change society in ways 264 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: that nobody can really anticipate the part of it. I 265 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: think at an individual level, there'll be a lot of 266 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: lessons learned from this that you can view as growth, 267 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: as positive, you know, assuming we get through this without 268 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: horrific levels of casualties. We're going to have a lot 269 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: of loss of life, which is terrible and deeply regrettable 270 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: in every sense. But there'll be individuals, I think, who 271 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: come out of this with a different view of what 272 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: really matters. The part of me that is most concerned 273 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: is for the structure as we have in place in 274 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: terms of long term threat. And we will beat this virus. 275 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll beat in eighteen months, but we will beat it. 276 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: But what does the government look like, what does our 277 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: economy look like? What does America and the world look 278 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: like in eighteen months. I can't begin to tell you 279 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: that I know the answer, but I'm going to be 280 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: sharing thoughts with you as we go ahead. Here, you're 281 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: in the Freedom und This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. 282 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: We're all in this together, all of us. I have 283 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: never seen anything like it. The unity, the spirit of cord, 284 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: the spirit. I've never seen anything like it. It's a 285 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: beautiful thing to watch. Unfortunately, the enemy is death. It's death. 286 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: A lot of people are dying, so it's very unpleasant. 287 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: It's a very unpleasant thing to go through. But the 288 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: level of competence, the level of caring, the level of love, 289 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: I just think it's brilliant, and it's possibly happening, happening 290 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: in other countries. Possibly, I don't know. I can't speak 291 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: to other countries, but I can speak to the United 292 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: States of America. And I've said it before and I'll 293 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: say it again. I am very proud to be your president. 294 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: He knows how serious this is for anybody who was 295 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: doubtful before. And I understand there is certainly a lack 296 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: of trust, and there should be a lack of trust 297 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: in our national news media. When this is all through 298 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: and done with, I hope people realize that these media, 299 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: these media brands that pretend to be objective journalists, it's 300 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: not just a function of I don't like them because 301 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: of their politics and their dishonesty. It's that they have 302 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: done a massive disservice by lighting their credibility on fire. 303 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: We needed a media going into this that we could trust. 304 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: We needed a media where and they came. They came 305 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: on TV and they said to the American people, Hey, 306 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: forget about Trump for a second. This is real. Here's 307 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: the information I want to give you on this. Some 308 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: people did this. I'm not saying whenever I talk with 309 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: the media, there's obviously exceptions. There are some individuals, some 310 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: networks network that were more willing to just bring the 311 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: American people facts and information. But by and large, our 312 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: media let us down at a point of absolute crisis, 313 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: where information was the difference between life and death. They'd 314 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: rather play games and throw food at Donald Trump. Thanks 315 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to 316 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you 317 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Why don't you act in a little 318 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: more positive It's always trying to question to you as 319 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: you get you, and you know what, that's why nobody 320 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: trusts the media anymore. How's that going to you? Didn't 321 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: hear me? That's why you used to work for the 322 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 1: Times and now you work for somebody else. Look, let 323 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: me tell you something. Be nice. Be nice. This was 324 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: what the press reporter on more than anything else. While 325 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: the President of the United States yesterday is telling us 326 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: that we all basically have to be on lockdown for 327 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: thirty days, that we have to be on lockdown, that 328 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: people cannot go and do their jobs, cannot go about 329 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: their lines for another month. We are losing a half 330 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: a quarter built in now a half a quarter of 331 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: economic activity in GDP. Now, I know when we start 332 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: talking about these things, you start talking about what the 333 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: economic impact of this will be long term. You have 334 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: a lot of individuals who say, you're you're you know, 335 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: you're throwing granny off the cliff, You're killing old people, 336 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: You're so hardless. No, I want us to be in 337 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: the best position possible as a country to say the 338 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: maximum number of lives and have the maximum number of decent, 339 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: decent conditions for life in this country. The amount of 340 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: the loss of life that could start to happen if 341 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: we have real decay, forget about decay that's too slow, 342 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: collapse of civil society, and what happens in the streets. 343 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell you this, and I'm going 344 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: to be coming in and out on what I'm seeing 345 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: here in New York. You know, there's some positives and 346 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: there's some some real downsides. But first let me go 347 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: back to before I give you my New York centric 348 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: view of this. I mean, I can see a lot 349 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: of Midtown and I can basically see Times Square from 350 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: my window. Now, a lot of you have a pretty 351 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: good sense of where I am in the city. But 352 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm close enough to the very heart 353 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: of things that I have a particular, a true perspective 354 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: and view on exactly what's going on in the busiest 355 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: part of the whole city. But I'll get back that first. 356 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: Let me just say that this exchange yet with Yami 357 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: Yai or Yamish, I'm not trying to be funny. I 358 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: actually forget how to pronounce her name. I think it's 359 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: I think it's Yamish. So she's a journalist and her 360 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: name was trending on Twitter. It's y am I. So 361 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to again, not making jokes here, I 362 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: just don't know how to pronounce her name. But she 363 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: got into this exchange with the president, and you had 364 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: all these people who were saying journalists out there who 365 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: while I'm sitting here wondering, and you know, I talked 366 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: to a doctor this morning. I'm talking to you, doctor, 367 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: friends of mine, as often as I can to get 368 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 1: as much information as I can, because this isn't my area. Mean, 369 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: after nine eleven, I went off the CIA, and really 370 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: our main, our main national security threat, our effort was 371 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: against radical radical Islamic terrorism around the world. We had 372 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: two wars with this and this became an area that 373 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: I knew. I had expertise. I knew how much we 374 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: had to worry about different terrorist groups, and I had 375 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: an understanding that other people didn't. And I also knew 376 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: what information the US can I was just I was 377 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: a worker b but I knew what information the top 378 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: people in the US government were making their determinations off 379 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: of because I was seeing it too with this with coronavirus. Uh. 380 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 1: You know, this is not an area where I can 381 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: tell you anything other than I'm just researching and learning 382 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: as fast as I can, as furiously as I can, 383 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: every single day, and I'm trying to bring you the 384 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: most valuable information with some context that I can, and 385 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: also doing making my best efforts to be Look, I'm 386 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: never going to be at not political. It's just not 387 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: who I am when it comes to the way I 388 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: view things. I'm honest with you about my sense of 389 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: reality and life and politics and everything else. But I'm 390 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: trying to make this really about defeating the virus as 391 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: much as I can, and less about the nasty and 392 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: often pointless back and forth with the left and the right. 393 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: But the way that journalists who have the opportunity to 394 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: go directly to the source and ask the president during 395 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: these press conferences, the way that they go after him 396 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: day after day, what do they really think they are 397 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: doing here that is worthwhile? And how can they be 398 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: so petty and so immature and irresponsible that they think 399 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: that this is a good way to spend their time. 400 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: You know, this Yamish talking to the president. You know, 401 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: yesterday they I stand with Yamish or there was some 402 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: kind of a hashtag about how as if this is 403 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: an important thing that was going on. Look, I think 404 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: the president, Yeah, should he lose his temper with journalists? 405 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean and under other circumstances, probably not, because I 406 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: didn't really think the president is able to get a 407 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: moment's peace right now. It doesn't even think that he's 408 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: a human being who also is tired, who's worried about 409 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: family members, who's worried about his own health. The Prime 410 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: Minister of the UK has COVID nineteen. Now, we we 411 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: haven't yet seen any evidence that no matter, you could 412 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: probably have the best medical care into the world right now, 413 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: and there's no evidence to prove that if your immune system, 414 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: because of age or other reasons, is not up for 415 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: the fight, there's not that much they can do for you. 416 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: So everybody's worried. Everybody's worried. People particularly in the high 417 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: risk category, are worried about this. But instead of just 418 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: focusing in on getting people the information that we all 419 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 1: want to have right now, that we all know we 420 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: need to have so that we can better take care 421 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: of each other and of ourselves, journalists want to play games, 422 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: and they're all doing this thing where they're saying that 423 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: that this is necessary because Trumps has boxed this response 424 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: so badly. This is going to turn into a huge 425 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: vicious political back and forth, especially because we have an 426 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: election in the fall, as you know, and we may 427 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: end up having something more like The New York Times 428 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: what a piece in this today. I've been thinking it 429 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: for a while in Britain for the Prime Minister that 430 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: they have a six week condensed election schedule. We're going 431 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: to have a condensed election schedule because you can't do 432 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: the rallies. You can't do and it's in that sense 433 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: it's really not a fair you know, if Russia interfered 434 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: in the last election, the virus is going to have 435 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: interfered in this election. There's no question about it. We're 436 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: not going to have a normal I'm talking about process wise, 437 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: never mind just current events. We're not going to have 438 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: a normal process. I think that's clear at this point. 439 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: And there's going to be a lot of calls and 440 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: a lot of information, a lot of effort to try 441 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: to make this even more easy, and probably people are 442 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: going to want to do mail in ballots, vote online. Anyway, 443 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm getting it a little ahead of myself with that. 444 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: Trump is trying to get the media to be a 445 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: little bit more positive, a little bit less nasty, because 446 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: people are scared right now, and fear leads to bad decisions. 447 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll tell you this. A week ago, I 448 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: was thinking about how if we keep doing this, we're 449 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: heading for a great depression. Now the administration is saying, Okay, 450 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to hit a great depression. 451 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: We've got this covered for a while. Do I believe them? 452 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: Not really? But am I willing to at least now 453 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: say Okay, they're making the calls. I've made, I've made 454 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: my case, I've made my piece. You know, the liberal 455 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: journalists out there who view this all through a political 456 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: lens and can't even can't tone it down, can't tone 457 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: it down even a little bit. I think that they honestly, 458 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: they're they've kind of lost it. They've lost it for 459 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: a long time when it comes to covering this president 460 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: and when it comes to what we see here with 461 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: the way that they'll ask them questions in public, and 462 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: then they'll talk about how they're on the front lines 463 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: of covering this Oh, there are journalists who are taking risks, 464 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: all right, I really need to not hear that right now, 465 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: because we have medical staff taking risks all across the country. 466 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: You have pediatricians who have to take COVID nineteen precautions 467 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: for every patient I'm not even talking about in hospitals, 468 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: just in practice anywhere, for every patient they see, knowing 469 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: that they may be exposed to not just the kid, 470 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: but also the parents coming in. Infection. Viral load matters, 471 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: the degree of the virus that you are exposed to, 472 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: from what I understand from an immunological standpoint, matters, and 473 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: people on the front lines are taking in that sense, 474 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: the most risk, the healthcare providers, but also people that 475 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: are working in grocery stores and the people that are 476 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: out there are those in the logistics realm who are 477 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: keeping all this stuff going and I really, you know, 478 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: I thank one of the guys who make sure that 479 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: the you know, the heat and the electricity is on 480 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: my building. Today I saw him in my lobby here 481 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: in New York, and I said, I just want to say, man, 482 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: thank you for coming to work. And he kind of 483 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: nodded his head a little bit and he appreciated it. 484 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: But I could also tell he's worried. He's worried, and 485 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: every time I go outside my home and go walk 486 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: around the streets, I'll tell you what that looks like. 487 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: But I have a very different so you have to 488 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: excuse me if I sound a little bit more concern 489 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: today than I ever have one. I think the numbers 490 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: justify the escalating concern. So there's that just from a 491 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: data perspective, but also there's I'm seeing it now. I 492 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: see what's going on, and I've talked to people who 493 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: are also having firsthand experience with this, and I'm in 494 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: the worst place. I'm in the worst place. So think 495 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: of it as though I'm doing a radio show for 496 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: you now, and it's like my city is being hit 497 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: with a hurricane and we're still in the middle of 498 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: the hurricane, and there's a really serious consideration that this 499 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: hurricane is going to hit a lot of other cities 500 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: right after it hits this one. If you, if you 501 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: put my comments today, I think into that context. Now 502 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: a lot of you are Look if you're in rural 503 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: Iowa or you know, or you're in you know, like 504 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 1: I said, West Texas, or you're in you know, Utah 505 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: outside of Salt Lake City, somewhere, you're outside of Portland, 506 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: you know, maybe an hour's drive. Yeah, you're probably going 507 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: to be fine in terms of your exposure to the virus, 508 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: or I should say, it's unlikely that you'll come into 509 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people who have infected have been infected 510 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: with this virus. But if you live in a city, 511 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: I mean New Orleans, is it just breaks my heart. 512 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: I love New Orleans. It's just a it's a magical 513 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: and I mean there's just something so special and so 514 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: cool about it in so many ways. New Orleans is 515 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: getting hit really badly right now. Miami, another place I 516 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: love to visit, getting hit really badly. You know other 517 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: cities that I you know, I just I can't even 518 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: name them off top of my head. Detroit's in bad shape. 519 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna get worse. So it's gonna happen elsewhere too, 520 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: and understand that the government is making decisions based upon 521 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: what they're seeing happening in these cities. Right now, I 522 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: just like to see there's an opportunity here, and I'm 523 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: going to try to be self assessing as I go 524 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: through this. I mean, I've told you that this virus 525 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: it's worse than I thought I was bad a month ago. 526 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: It's worse than I thought it would be. It's worse 527 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: than I thought I would be. I'm gonna try to 528 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: self assess as I go through this, because I'm just 529 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: coming to this like all of you, as somebody who 530 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: approaches it with an eye to up as much information 531 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: as possible, learning as much as I can, making the 532 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: best decisions I can, and pushing for the smartest policy 533 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: for the most people. There are no perfect answers here. 534 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: There's no perfect policy. You're going to see, for example, 535 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: that those who were saying just send everybody home, shut 536 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: down the school, send everybody home. There was a spike 537 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: in infections. I can almost guarantee you the data will 538 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: prove this. They've seen it elsewhere. They have, from what 539 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: I understand right now, already shown this to be the 540 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: case in some parts of northern Italy. Sending the young 541 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: people home to quarantine with older relatives was an enormous miscalculation, 542 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: an enormous mistake that is likely to be one that 543 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: we revisit. So, you know, people are making good faith 544 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: errors here and trying to calculate what are sound policies 545 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: that mitigate risk properly versus what allows us to have 546 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: an economy so that we still have doctors getting paid 547 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 1: and assembly lines making masks in this country, along with 548 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: keeping food on the shelves and preventing there from being riots. 549 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: And you know, there's a lot of moving pieces here. 550 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: And I just also appreciate so much that all of 551 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: you are joining me still every day. And I mean, 552 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: we can tell that this audience is still tuning in 553 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: stn't want to know what's going on. I think a 554 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: lot of what you're seeing, unfortunately on cable news is 555 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: just filler at this point, a lot of repetition. You know, 556 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: they're interviewing the same people. I don't know why everyone 557 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: wants to interview someone who's already been in a press 558 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: conference for two hours asking questions. I think that that's 559 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: at some point that just becomes repetitive, and I think 560 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: the information value of that is less than some seem 561 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: to think it is. But nonetheless it's it's it's troubling 562 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: for me to see what's going on here, and also 563 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: the lack of a willingness to put aside the partisan 564 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: hatchet just for a moment. Well, this country, at least 565 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: this city. I mean, I can't speak to how bad 566 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: will be in the rest of the country. This city 567 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: and other cities, though, are going to get it really hard. 568 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: We're already gained it really Audio. You're in the Freedom 569 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: hud This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. You know, 570 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: your campaign put out you're a critique of President Trump 571 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: and says if he doesn't do these things you know 572 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: he could, he could cost lives. Do you think there's 573 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: already Do you think there is blood on the President's 574 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: hands considering the slow response or is that to two 575 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: hearts of a criticism. I think that's a little too harsh. 576 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: I think what's happening is that failure too. As I 577 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: watched a tree limb to your show where someone said 578 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: that made use the phrase that the president just thinks 579 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: out loud. He should stop thinking out loud. And start 580 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: thinking deeply. He should start listening to the scientists before 581 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: he speaks. He should listen to the health experts. I 582 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: get really tired of this talking point that the president 583 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: should listen to the health experts. The health experts are 584 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: with him and speaking directly the American people every day, 585 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: and he just made a massive decision that some people 586 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: may look back on. I know, right now, it's okay, 587 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: the virus is really bad in some places in the country. 588 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: It's going to get worse in other places. Let's shut 589 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: down for the entire month of April. Let's hope that 590 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: the response from the administration to deal with the economy 591 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: is sufficient. There is the chance that we will look 592 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: back at this decision to shut down well beyond easter, 593 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: to go weeks beyond easter, and recognize that economically it 594 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: was disastrous in a way that you know, we'll see, 595 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: We'll see. I'm hoping that's that's not the case. You know, 596 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: all along, I've been wondering, why is not more of 597 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: the focus on protecting vulnerable populations and just doing social mitigation, 598 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: but allowing people to do more work or to do 599 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: more of their jobs. But I suppose for things like 600 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: restaurants and other businesses. Congregating in numbers is an essential 601 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: part of the business, so you can't really change that. 602 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: It's a very complicated problem. And people that are going 603 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: around dunking on one another because someone's wrong on this 604 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: on You know, I can guarantee this, President Trump, everyone 605 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: who works in the White House right now. You know, 606 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: the people that are dealing with this problem day in 607 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: and day out, if they could wave a wand and 608 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: save every single life from today forward, they would do it. 609 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: We all know that everyone wants maximum life saved. Everybody 610 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: wants everyone's mom, dad, brother, sister, grandma, grandpa, wife, husband, son, daughter, 611 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: you name it, right, we all want all of them 612 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: to come through this. But we also are operating in 613 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: the reality of we are in a war with a virus, 614 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 1: and right now the virus is taking a heavy toll 615 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: on us with casualties a lot. And remember the casualties 616 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: is wounded as well as killed a lot. Of the 617 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: people right now who are being intubated and going through 618 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: this process, you know, they're suffering very badly even if 619 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: they come through this on the other side. And that's 620 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: why when Chuck Todd says something and this is the 621 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: start of this of this little conversation we're having this segment. 622 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: Do you think there's blood on the president hands? Considering 623 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 1: the slow response? I mean, Chuck Tod is honestly, he's 624 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: so indicative of the elite media and someone who I 625 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: don't know, it's just all smoke in mirrorsm The guy 626 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: isn't very bright, doesn't seem ethical in the least in 627 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: the way that he covers the news is smarmie, is 628 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: a little bit of a cry baby. And yeah, he's 629 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: offered up by NBC as someone that you should all 630 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: listen to. I don't know why you wouldn't want Chuck Todd. 631 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: You know you wouldn't want Chuck Todd to have your 632 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: back in any situation. This guy just doesn't strike me 633 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: as somebody of any real character or backbone asking that 634 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: the president has blood on his hands. He really you're 635 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: going to hold the president responsible for this? Is the 636 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: president responsible for what's going on in the rest of 637 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: the world too, because there are a lot of every 638 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: major country right now is either about to or getting 639 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: crushed by this virus. Thanks for listening to The Bus 640 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts. The 641 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: iHeart radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. The 642 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: Treasury Department an SBA has been working around the clock. 643 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: We will have a program up and running on Friday 644 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: where not only the existing SBA lenders, but FDIC banks, 645 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: credit unions, fintech lenders will be able to make loans. 646 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: Those loans will cover eight weeks of workers salary plus 647 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: additional money for overhead. If you let your workers go, 648 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: you bring back your workers. For every worker you have, 649 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: that portion of the loan is forgiven. So I encourage 650 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: all small distances that's about half of the US private payroll, 651 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: go back and hire your workers because the government is 652 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: paying you to do that. This is an ambitious plan 653 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: and it's the kind of thinking that is needed right now. 654 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 1: Manuchin is smart. He is a kind of Goldman Sachs 655 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: Wall Street insidery guy. But he's a smart dude. And 656 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 1: what are you saying here is, look, we are going 657 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: to pay we the federal government are going to cover 658 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: your payroll. So make sure that you're paying people because 659 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: it's free money for you to pay them. Keep your 660 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: employees on the payroll. Maybe this works, Maybe this works. 661 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: Who knows, really, who knows what the long term implications 662 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: will be. You know, there are two ways that this 663 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: goes badly as far as I can see it. Well, actually, 664 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, there are three ways. One is that it's 665 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: and the most likely I think is that it's just insufficient. 666 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of problems with the actual dispersal of 667 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: the funds. The funds are not enough for different businesses. 668 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: That's all part of this. Okay, that's one problem. A 669 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: second problem we lead into, and this leads us into 670 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: I should say, a depression or a recession, one or 671 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: the other. That's a very real consideration. And then we 672 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: have to deal with that on top of everything else, 673 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: and the virus that keeps coming back even though we're 674 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: in the midst of this, that's a possibility. And then 675 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: there's another situation, and that is that we create too 676 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: much a stress, a systemic stress on our financial system, 677 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: so that this stimulus plan, this rescue package becomes essentially 678 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: what people have been warning about for decades, which is, 679 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, once we get up words of thirty trillion 680 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: dollars of debt or whatever it is going to be 681 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: when this is all over, I mean it's two trillion 682 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: right now at it on plus the trillion dollars deface 683 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: that I think we're already going to run this year, 684 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: So that's three trillion. We're gonna be a twenty five 685 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: trillion the blink of an eye, and if we do 686 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: another package, it's going to be another two or three 687 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: trillion problemly on top of that. So we're looking at 688 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: mid twenties trillion dollars of debt. What happens if then 689 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: that leads to a collapse, a collapse of the financial system, 690 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: the dollar, hyperinflation. I mean, all these really scary scenarios. 691 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: Those are the problems. Is that going to happen? I 692 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Anybody can 693 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: really tell you this. I Mean, one thing I'm quite 694 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: certain of is that economists are bad at predictions, about 695 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: as bad as most cable news anchors have been at 696 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: being ahead of this situation and understanding what the implications 697 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: of it really are. But the possibility of financial systemic 698 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: systemic financial collapse, it's just being pushed aside right now. 699 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: We're just taking this Everything that can be done for 700 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: the virus, to suppress the virus at the expense of 701 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: maximum expensive the economy. This is the approach the administration 702 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: has decided to take. And I mean, they have access 703 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: to better information than I do. They have experts, which 704 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: I am not, and in fact, they have thousands of them, 705 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: and this is what they're going to do. I'm concerned. 706 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: But what are we really supposed to do under the circumstances, 707 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: and what are we the American people, going to do. 708 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they're telling us that if we just went 709 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: back to life as normal across the country, this will 710 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: kill hundreds of thousands of people. And the number that 711 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: doctor Fauci said is that it could easily kill or 712 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: I should say, the models clearly show upwards of one 713 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: hundred to two hundred thousand people dead from this if 714 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: we went back to life as normal. Now I'm not 715 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: advocating I've never advocated going back to life as normal 716 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: right away. That is not a real position that anyone's had. 717 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: But even standard or I should say, even escalating and 718 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: de escalating measures for a containment that are on a 719 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 1: dynamic basis changed to meet the circumstances of the moment, 720 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: that's right now off the table too. It's just going 721 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: to be everything you can do wherever this virus exists 722 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: to shut this thing down and we'll deal with the 723 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: economic fallout later. That is really I just want us 724 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: all to be very clear that there was a discussion. 725 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: You know, obviously the administration was thinking that by April eleventh, 726 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: by easter, maybe we could start to lessen this up. 727 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: So that was going to be balancing things toward protecting 728 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: the economy a bit and taking a little bit more 729 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: risk from the virus. That's what that means. People can say, oh, 730 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: that's what it means. Okay, we're gon we're gonna talk 731 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: like adults here, that's what that would be. I mean, 732 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: the moment that you and found she has said as 733 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: much himself, the moment that you de escalate, the moment 734 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: that you drop down some of your protective measures, you're 735 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: just more more at risk from this. And that seemed 736 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: like it was something that might happen in a matter 737 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: of weeks, and now they're saying no, April. April is 738 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: lockdown month across the country, so and the economy is 739 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 1: something we'll deal with later. I really hope that they 740 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 1: know what they're doing, because if you know, the same 741 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: way that we didn't see this virus, no one really 742 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: saw the virus coming I've said you before, the pandemic 743 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: is a big thread, and you know, then then the 744 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: question turns into or before we're at this moment, well, 745 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,439 Speaker 1: was this the pandemic virus or not? You know, we've 746 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: had SARS, we've had mirrors, we've had h one M, 747 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: when we've had these other similar incidents that were serious 748 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: but then felt a bit like not false alarms, but 749 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: perhaps exaggerated states of alarm based on what the final 750 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: reality of those viruses were. Are we going to look 751 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: back at this moment and this is the question that 752 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: I posed to you, and I do not pretend to 753 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: have an answer. Are we going to look back at 754 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: this moment where we said everything against the virus doesn't 755 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: matter what the economy looks like right now or what 756 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: it's going to do to it. And do you think 757 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: there's a chance that we'll be saying at some point 758 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 1: in the future, how could we have missed it's so obvious? 759 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: How could we have missed that this was going to 760 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,720 Speaker 1: lead us in due depression? I'm not making that prediction. 761 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do worry. I'm just I'm 762 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: raising this as a question. I worry that that's what 763 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna be thinking in six or twelve months. And 764 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: it's not going to happen in a couple of weeks, 765 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: but six or twelve months from now, we're going to 766 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: say we went too far toward virus suppression measures and 767 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: didn't keep in mind what the damage to the economy 768 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: would be, what the damage would be to people's lives, 769 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: the ability to fight the virus, all the things that 770 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: Trump in the administration we're talking about last week that 771 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 1: seemed to now have been not abandoned, but just put 772 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: on hold until we can find something else, figure something 773 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,959 Speaker 1: else out. So, my friends, we will have to see. 774 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: We'll just have to see. I don't have I have 775 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: Manuchin telling you that this is going to work out great, 776 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: which is really what he has to say. I mean, 777 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,919 Speaker 1: he's been very involved in coming up with a play 778 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: clip twelve. I think this program is going to be 779 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: enormously successful and stabilizing the US economy while hardworking Americans 780 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: who lost their jobs or aren't able to work because 781 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: of the medical situation that they get help. So this 782 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: money is going to go into the economy very quickly. 783 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: It is going to help American workers very very quickly. 784 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know how long it's going to take 785 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: to kill this virus. I do know we will kill 786 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: this virus. And when we do, I have great confidence 787 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: that the US economy will become roaring back. This is 788 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: what their assessment currently, This is where the assessment currently stands. 789 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: We can put the economy on hold. We can just 790 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: hit the pause button, maximum measures to contain and suppress 791 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: the virus, hit the pause button on the economy, and 792 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: then when we decide to press the start button again, 793 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,760 Speaker 1: we'll be all right. And actually we'll have a huge 794 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: ramp up and things will be good. Man, that would 795 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: be great. And it's a really comforting story at some 796 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: level to hear now, especially for those of us who 797 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: are sitting here saying what happens if we had to 798 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: do great depression? What does that do to this country? 799 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 1: And you know, then you also get into the analysis then, 800 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: and this is what people right now who view this 801 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: through a partisan lens. I'm trying to view this through 802 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: an America lens. I really am every day and I 803 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: mean that, I know that can almost sound like some 804 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: kind of cliche, but I really am thinking what's best 805 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: for this country right now. Because there's also the chance 806 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: that we look back at this. I'll be talking to 807 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 1: you more about China today on the show that we 808 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: look at this moment in time and say, this is 809 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,959 Speaker 1: when China became the pre eminent hedge them on around 810 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: the world. What does that mean if that happened? What 811 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 1: would the Chinese Communist Party with, you know, running a 812 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: country of over a billion people with nuclear weapons and 813 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: certainly some level of biological weapons program. I'm not saying 814 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: this is a part of that, but what would it 815 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: mean if all of a sudden that entity is the 816 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: single most powerful, single most powerful government in the world. 817 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: How many millions, how many billions of people will suffer 818 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: lose their life, perhaps in wars. I mean, you know, 819 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: there's so much that goes into these calculations when you're 820 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: talking about the future of the United States that right 821 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: now I think that we are I understand everyone's everyone's scared, 822 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 1: and I'm in the middle of the scariest place. I mean, 823 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,479 Speaker 1: those of you that are listening to show, I could 824 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 1: walk out my doors and I'll tell you what it's 825 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: like in New York a little bit. But this is 826 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: there is nowhere in America right now that is more 827 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: on edge about this virus than where I am sitting 828 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, this city is ground zero. But 829 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying that the voices of of understandable concern, but 830 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: even some that are that are really now edging on panic, 831 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: they seem to have won out. And now we're just 832 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: we're doing a lockdown, and we're listening to experts whose job, 833 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: understandably is just to limit limit to the greatest possible degree, 834 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: any spread of this virus. And now we're being told 835 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: essentially that there is nothing, there is no other balancing 836 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: factor here. That we're doing every absolutely everything we can 837 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: up to and including shutting down the economy for another 838 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,399 Speaker 1: thirty days. I really, I really hope that they're right. 839 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm not in a position to say that they're wrong 840 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: because I don't know what's going to happen. Honestly, they 841 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen. But I don't have 842 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: expertise in epidemiology and viral pandemics and all these other things. 843 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,359 Speaker 1: I do know that government and competence is everywhere, and 844 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: that the government. You know, there's a part of me 845 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 1: that is angry about Okay, the CDC makes or not 846 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: makes part of me. The CDC has about a seven 847 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: six seven billion dollars year budget over ten thousand employees. 848 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: What have they been doing time? This is this is 849 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 1: the equivalent of the big invasion that everybody knew was 850 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: coming by some foreign country, and it would be like 851 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: the Pentagon sit around saying, yeah, you know, just you know, 852 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: try to arm yourself and see if you can help 853 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: us fight this thing off. What really, the best the 854 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 1: CDC can do is to put out a test that's 855 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: faulty at the absolute critical moment and then tell us basically, 856 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: go to wash our hands, stay away from each other, 857 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: shut down the economy, and don't go outside. And that's 858 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: really what they're telling us. You know that they don't 859 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: really know how how much this disease is aerosoli has 860 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: spread through Aerosoli's droplets versus contact on surfaces and people 861 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,760 Speaker 1: then just you know, putting their fingers in their mouth 862 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: or their eyes. They don't know. They don't know if 863 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: you can get reinfected. There's some report out of China 864 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,240 Speaker 1: that says you might be able to get some percentage 865 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: of people might be able to be reinfected with this afterwards, 866 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: which would be really distressing because usually virus you have 867 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: immunity at least for a long period of time after 868 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 1: you get it. There's so much about this that they 869 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: don't really know. And I do want to ask the question, 870 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: what is exactly the c D what have they been 871 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: doing all this time? And the National Institutes of Health? 872 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: You know what are they because I know that they've 873 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: done things like to help They've had campaigns to tell 874 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: people to have their kids like eat more vegetables, and 875 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 1: they want to study gun violence and things like that. 876 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,760 Speaker 1: I know that that has happened. And it just feels 877 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 1: like there wasn't really a playbook for this to be 878 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: run by you, by the CDC, by the NH, and 879 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: we've been making it up as we go along, and 880 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 1: you do want to ask what were they doing all 881 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: this time? And really now we're turning. I mean that 882 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: the likeliest scenario would be if one of the I 883 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't say likely, it's the likeliest home run scenario for 884 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: us and for humanity would be if one of these 885 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: one of these big pharmaceutical companies comes up with an 886 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,919 Speaker 1: excellent treatment for this. I keep seeing this anecdotal data 887 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 1: about a zithromycin and chloroquin or hydroxy chloroquin not to 888 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: be confused with the fish tank cleaner chloroquine phosphate. That's 889 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: a no no. I see anecdotal stuff about this, but 890 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: until we have some real clear studies on it for 891 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 1: a few weeks, we're just not going to know. We're 892 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: going to continue to be in what feels like a 893 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: bit of a guessing game on this. So, my friends, 894 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 1: the economy is just being We're trying an experiment now 895 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,800 Speaker 1: with the economy that has never been done before. I 896 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: don't know this has ever been done before in human history. 897 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: I just don't know if there's any any analogous situation 898 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 1: to this. And the people in charge are telling us, 899 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: don't worry, We've got this. Okay, this is the way 900 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: it's going to be. I'm going to try to go 901 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 1: forward in good faith and listen to the experts on this. 902 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: But I also know that a lot of things we've 903 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 1: been told about systemic economic risk are only getting worse 904 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, I mean, like catastrophe, like the 905 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: economy just implodes, like dollars all of a sudden aren't 906 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: worth anything. I mean, that's that's kind of what we 907 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: think of as the worst possible scenario for the economy. 908 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: Which would just all of this country effectively. I'm going 909 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,359 Speaker 1: to hope that that's not going to happen at any point, 910 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be okay, And I'm gonna try to 911 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,359 Speaker 1: just downplay in my mind that the experts that we're 912 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: always being told to listen to have been wrong and 913 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff, and our leaders have certainly 914 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: been wrong on both sides. By the way, this is 915 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: not as there's this sense that one party was right, 916 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: and that's that's a lie, that one media organization was 917 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: right and others. No, that's not true. People have been 918 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 1: getting this wrong left and right because nobuddy knows. That's 919 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:34,240 Speaker 1: really the that's the the operating or the operative phrase 920 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 1: for what the future holds here. Nobody knows. And we're 921 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: just doing the best that we can, and that's we're 922 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: coming together and rallying as people to each other's sides 923 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: as much as we can day to day. That's what 924 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 1: we can do. And hope that these pray that these 925 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: experts aren't making an enormous blunder by thinking that we 926 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 1: can do this lockdown for another thirty days. I certainly 927 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: hope that they're right, and then we can just turn 928 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: the account. Let me about broad we'll see you're in 929 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 1: the Freedom Mind. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. 930 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: This is such a very, very sad time for us, 931 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: so we should be taking every precaution. What the president, 932 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 1: his denial at the beginning was deadly. His delaying of 933 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 1: getting equipment to continues is delaying getting equipment to where 934 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: it's needed is deadly. And now I would think the 935 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: best thing would be to do is to prevent a 936 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,919 Speaker 1: more loss of life rather than open things up so 937 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: that because we just don't know, we have to have testing, testing, testing, 938 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: That's what we said from the start, before we can 939 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 1: evaluate what the nature of it is in some of 940 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: these other regions as well. I don't know what the 941 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: purpose of that is. I don't know what the scientists 942 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: are saying to him. I don't know what the scientists 943 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: said to him. When did this president know about this sident? 944 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 1: And what did he know? What did he know and 945 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 1: when did he know it? That's for an after action review. 946 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,800 Speaker 1: But as the president fiddles, people are dying and we 947 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,399 Speaker 1: just have to take every precaution. Nancy Pelosi is neither 948 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 1: a decent nor an ethical person. And you see this 949 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: now in a way that has made clear what many 950 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,280 Speaker 1: of us have known for a long time. But Nancy 951 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: Pelosi can't put aside her worst political impulses even for 952 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: a moment. She can't do it. This is who she is. 953 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: The president is fiddling and people are dying. How is 954 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: the president fiddling? What is he supposed to do that 955 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 1: he's not doing. He has invoked the Defense Production Acting 956 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,479 Speaker 1: now he's actually used it, meaning that he has gone 957 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: to private, major private companies and said, okay, you're now 958 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 1: doing this. We're going to pay you for it. But 959 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: you're not doing this thing. You're making this product. You're 960 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: making ventilators or masks or whatever the case may be. 961 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: And this is what he was being pushed toward. He 962 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: didn't want to have to do it. Look like General 963 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: Motors was holding things up a little bit, so he said, okay, 964 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: on the president. This is how it's going to be. 965 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: Notice also, how the people that were claiming the president. 966 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 1: There's so much that this is showing you about the lies, 967 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: the dishonesty, and the just the general deceit of the 968 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: opposition to this administration. For three years up until now, 969 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 1: they kept saying that he's a dictator, he's an authoritarian, 970 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,359 Speaker 1: He's a fascist. I mean, these were things that we're 971 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: said about the president, and now that we're in a 972 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 1: moment where is a true crisis, and the ability to 973 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,919 Speaker 1: seize and wield power now is greater than anything since 974 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: nine to eleven, and in some ways is even more 975 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 1: powerful than what we saw with the aftermath of nine 976 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: to eleven. That ability is not being abused by this 977 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,280 Speaker 1: president at all. In fact, one of the criticisms against 978 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: him that the left and others are using is that 979 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: he's not seizing enough power in order to deal with 980 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: this pandemic. Do you think anyone looks at that in 981 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 1: that way now and reevaluates all of their Trump is 982 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 1: a dictator. Trump is basically like Hitler. Do you think 983 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: anyone does that? No, of course not. They choose not 984 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: to do any of that because it was all for 985 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: a purpose. It was all about a struggle for power. 986 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,720 Speaker 1: It was never a boy presenting you with the truth. 987 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: So they lied about Trump until now, and we all 988 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 1: should take a moment to recognize what it was. It 989 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 1: was lies. Thanks for listening to the bus sets and 990 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 1: show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, 991 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,760 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. She's blaming the pros 992 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: in the United States for people dying because of the 993 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: way he's led the country. That's the most shameful, disgusting 994 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: statement by any politician in modern history. Let me tell you, 995 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: we've seen the best of America, from our citizens helping 996 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:45,320 Speaker 1: each other, delivering groceries, having special shopping hours for senior citizens. 997 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: She's the first politician to blame another politician for people dying. 998 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: This is the same Speaker of the House who held 999 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 1: up the bill in the Senate for days because she 1000 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: wanted same day voting. It is disgusting, but it's really 1001 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: not surprising, a isn't it. Nancy Pelosi now claiming the 1002 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: President's costing lives because of his response to this. Meanwhile, 1003 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: she delayed this rescue bill for the entire economy because 1004 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: of what Because she wanted money for windmills and diversity 1005 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: on corporate boards. No one gives a crap about those 1006 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,439 Speaker 1: things right now. Nancy Pelosi, who's not a total left 1007 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,359 Speaker 1: wing lunatic, but Nancy Pelosi is, in fact the left 1008 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 1: wing lunatics. I suppose none of this should be considered 1009 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 1: even the least bit surprising. Whether the President also had 1010 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 1: a I mentioned before the the back and forth with 1011 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 1: the press and how they think that still even in 1012 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 1: this moment in time, they are so very important. Here 1013 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 1: was one of the exchanges that I didn't get to before. 1014 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: Play clip ten. You were talking about governors of different 1015 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: states and you said, I want them to be appreciative. 1016 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 1: You also said, if they don't treat you right, I 1017 00:55:53,640 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: don't call ready. Ready. Take a look at what it says. 1018 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 1: I want them to be appreciative of me, Okay, and 1019 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 1: then you cut it off because it's fake news and 1020 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 1: of your administration. Please let me just finish. You just 1021 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: said it again, and you know the answers a lie. 1022 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 1: You know. I let me just say you're sapent and 1023 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,399 Speaker 1: your response and your answer is a lie, because here's 1024 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 1: the story. You're ready. I said, I want you to 1025 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: be appreciative of me, and then you go on and 1026 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,839 Speaker 1: then I go on and you cut it off. But 1027 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 1: it says when you am not appreciative. I don't want 1028 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: them to say things that aren't true. I want them 1029 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: to be appreciative. We've done a great job. And I'm 1030 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: not talking about me. I'm talking about Mike Pennce. The 1031 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: task course I'm talking about the Army Corps of Engineers. 1032 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. But then you went on to say if 1033 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 1: they don't treat you right, I don't call. He's a 1034 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 1: different type of I don't call no. I don't call no. 1035 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't call the governor of Washington in this time. 1036 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,280 Speaker 1: But Mike Pence calls, and the head of FEMA calls. 1037 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't stop them. Did I ever ask you to 1038 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 1: do anything negative? Mike to Washington, the state of Washington, Michigan. 1039 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: I love that state. That's one of my favorite places 1040 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,839 Speaker 1: in the whole world, Michigan. This is a example of 1041 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 1: the nonsense that you expect from the press. We all 1042 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: know how Donald Trump speaks. We all understand that he 1043 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: has a very particular way of saying things, very Trumpian way. 1044 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 1: When he says that they're not nice to me, I 1045 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 1: don't call. They're saying is that he has one of 1046 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: the other members of the task force speak to leaders. 1047 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Jay Insley has been an immature joke during 1048 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 1: some of this. I mean, after the President had a 1049 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 1: conference with him, I think it was two weeks ago, 1050 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: had a call with him, he went to Twitter and 1051 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: slammed the President unfairly on Twitter. So why isn't it 1052 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 1: a smart move? I mean, if you were managing a 1053 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: company and you had a very critical matter to deal with, 1054 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: which certainly addressing this is if you had a critical 1055 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 1: matter to deal with and you were involved in a 1056 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: personal dispute with somebody in the company, why not take 1057 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: out that personal level and make it just about doing 1058 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: whatever is necessary to get the job done. So he's saying, 1059 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: Mike Pence will be the one who makes the phone call, 1060 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: not me. That doesn't strike me as in any way 1061 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 1: a cause for alarm. I mean, he's the vice president 1062 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: and he'll talk to the States and make sure they're 1063 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: getting everything they need to get. But they still they 1064 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: drilled down on these things and they look for the 1065 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 1: most negative version of it possible because their audience has 1066 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 1: really been psychologically conditioned to view things as negatively as 1067 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: possible all the time about this administration. And they're certainly cause, 1068 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: they're certainly cause for criticism for the Trump administration on 1069 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: a number of fronts, but it's never in good faith. 1070 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 1: It's never offered up as well, they didn't do this. Well, 1071 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: here's the context. We were told that Trump was a 1072 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 1: trader and that he was basically a fascist who was 1073 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 1: destroying democracy for three years. These people are insane and 1074 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,439 Speaker 1: that hasn't changed. That hasn't changed despite everything else. So 1075 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: this is what we see happening. And then you got 1076 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, who remember he was going to do a 1077 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 1: press conference every day, and then they realized that that 1078 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 1: didn't work, that didn't look good. You're going to have 1079 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: what a shadow state with Joe Biden running it Right now, 1080 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 1: we don't need to hear what Joe Biden thinks about 1081 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: different responses or what he would do if he were 1082 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: in charge. We got big your things to think about, 1083 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 1: and he's not in charge. So why they back off 1084 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 1: those press conferences, Well, they got rid of them because 1085 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 1: it didn't look good for Joe Biden, and in part 1086 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 1: it's because he doesn't offer anything valuable at this point 1087 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: in time. Play clip nine. Let's set aside President Trump's rhetoric. 1088 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: Is there an action he has not taken that you 1089 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 1: would be taking right now if you were president? Yeah, 1090 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 1: I'd be doing two things. At least one, I would 1091 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: make sure that he uses a Defense Production Act, not 1092 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: only to do with the issue of whether or not 1093 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: there are ventilators, but I would do the same thing 1094 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,920 Speaker 1: for mask and gowns and mask and all and shields, 1095 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 1: all the things that are first responders and our doctors 1096 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 1: and nurser's need. Why are we waiting? We know they're needed, 1097 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 1: They're going to be increasingly needed. You just heard the 1098 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: president's folks person talk about the increasing knee. A lot 1099 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: of Democrats really don't understand not just that government is 1100 00:59:54,200 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: full of slow, slothful, corrupt, inapt people, which it is, unfortunately, 1101 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 1: but also the way that the private sector works and 1102 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 1: why you can get more things if you allow the 1103 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 1: expertise within the private sector to do what it does. Right. 1104 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Here's here's the disconnect. When it comes to public sector stuff. 1105 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 1: It's always listened to the experts. It's always the CDC 1106 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 1: says this, the NIH says that, and sometimes that is 1107 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: certainly the correct, the appropriate response. But they defer to 1108 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 1: the experts there. But they won't defer to experts within 1109 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 1: the private sector when it comes to making stuff. You 1110 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 1: know who's really good at making things? People who make them. 1111 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: You know who's not as good at them? People that 1112 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 1: just say, you know, make make a million masks appear 1113 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: because we say so, this is what you see. This 1114 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 1: in socialist command command control economies. You see this in 1115 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 1: places where the state is in charge in this way, 1116 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: at this level, where they just will you know, this 1117 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 1: is what the Soviet Union would do. They would say, okay, 1118 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 1: we want there to be x amount of loaves of bread, 1119 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 1: so that's what the breadmakers have to make. And guess 1120 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 1: what that didn't take into account what the price of 1121 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 1: wheat was, what the price of labor was, and so 1122 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: they were all these shortages and problems. You know, Democrats 1123 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: who are claiming the president should just direct the private 1124 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 1: industry to make all this stuff don't understand that he's 1125 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 1: telling some private industry, hey, can you guys make this, 1126 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 1: will pay you, and then leaving it to them to 1127 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 1: make because they'll be better at it. And then if 1128 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: someone slows down too much or they're being haggling too 1129 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: much in the negotiation, he invokes a Defense Production Act 1130 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 1: and we go from there. So that's where this is 1131 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, Joe Biden coming forward and acting 1132 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 1: like he would just make some declaration about how they 1133 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 1: need to be fifty million masks or whatever. Then I mean, 1134 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: who knows, I don't even know what the number is. 1135 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: Right now, they think they need nationally, but it's an enormous, 1136 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 1: an enormous number of these surgical masks. Who knows what 1137 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 1: that would mean, wouldn't I don't think it would help 1138 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: for Joe Biden just make this declaration. But I mean 1139 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: a big problem here is that they're they're trashing Trump 1140 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 1: so much in their response for obvious political reasons, and 1141 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,920 Speaker 1: then they turn around and they offer us up Joe Biden, 1142 01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 1: who is really a confused l lily and an honestly 1143 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 1: corrupt guy and uninspiring and has no real executive experience 1144 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 1: of any kind other than I mean, you can talk 1145 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: about the executive experience his son got on the board 1146 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 1: of a company he never should have been on. Joe 1147 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 1: Biden is not someone that you would put on the 1148 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: board of any company to advise you, unless you were 1149 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 1: just looking for his name, which we know that's a 1150 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: thing that happens on the boards of companies too. So 1151 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 1: that's where we are right now. I mean, we're looking 1152 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: at this entire response and we're saying, well, hold on 1153 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,160 Speaker 1: a second, we're supposed to think that Joe Biden would 1154 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 1: do such a better job or Nancy Pelosi, who do 1155 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,600 Speaker 1: says a better job in truth, government at all levels 1156 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 1: has failed you. There have been failures, there have been missteps. 1157 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 1: There should have been more information out sooner to the 1158 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: public about really what this was and how dangerous it 1159 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 1: was going to be. I think I'm not convinced, for example, 1160 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: that the response that views this as a national level 1161 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 1: thing where everywhere you should have a lockdown instead of 1162 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: place by place, and the federalism that was being discussed, 1163 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 1: or a more federalist approach of states and localities making decisions. 1164 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: And then I think that in the end we'll look 1165 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,439 Speaker 1: back and think that probably would have been a better move. 1166 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 1: But here's what we're up against. During all of this, 1167 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 1: no matter what happens to the economy, and no matter 1168 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: what happens in the aftermath of this, and the aftermath 1169 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 1: now feels like it's very far away, you will have 1170 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 1: people who tell you that it doesn't we save two 1171 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 1: million lives, and that there's nothing so no, no destruction 1172 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 1: of the economy, no erosion of civil rights, no erosion 1173 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 1: of self civil liberties, rather, no erosion of any part 1174 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: of our society. They will say it can compare to 1175 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 1: the did they save two two million lives? We'll end 1176 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 1: up seeing what the final number is here, but that 1177 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 1: will be the claim, So just be prepared for that 1178 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: as well. If you think that we head into a 1179 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 1: great depression and all of a sudden there's shortages, there's 1180 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 1: not enough food, there's real problems like that, they'll turn 1181 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 1: aroun out and say when you want to be like, 1182 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 1: I told you guys, we had to do more for 1183 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 1: the economy, they'll turn around and say to you, but no, 1184 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,920 Speaker 1: we saved two million lives, so shut up. The government 1185 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: knew what it was. You know. The government response here 1186 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 1: was the correct one, and it's viewed somehow as a 1187 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: partisan response, even though I think this is just everyone's 1188 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 1: trying to make the best decisions they can under the circumstances. 1189 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 1: And I certainly hope that the economy just comes roaring 1190 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 1: back and maybe Manutrition's right. And you know, the people 1191 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,440 Speaker 1: right now who are in the prediction business have a 1192 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 1: very very tough way ahead of them because really those 1193 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 1: who are good at predicting things understand that what they 1194 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 1: do is pattern analysis, and they look for similar situations 1195 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 1: how they played out, and then they try to look 1196 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 1: at they try to gauge the percentages for how something's 1197 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 1: likely to play out in the future, and you can 1198 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 1: really do that with this because we're we've never seen 1199 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: anything like this before. So that that's my feeling on this, 1200 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 1: my friends. There's still a lot of information we need 1201 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: to make better decisions. But Joe Biden, I'm await. Here's 1202 01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,840 Speaker 1: just a you know, I wanted to give you a 1203 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 1: little bit of a a moment away from the virus 1204 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 1: and everything. Here's Joe Biden giving one of his biden isms. 1205 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 1: Play eleven. What do you make of the fact that 1206 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,439 Speaker 1: the President's John rading has bumped up during this crisis? Well, 1207 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think that's a typical American 1208 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 1: response in every single crisis we've had that I've been around, 1209 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 1: going back to Jimmy Carter and the hostages all the 1210 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 1: way through to this moment. President's ratings have always gone 1211 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 1: up in a crisis. And but you know, that little expression, 1212 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 1: the proof of the you know, is going to be 1213 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 1: an eating of pudding. You know, what's it going to 1214 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 1: look like? I hope we're in a situation going into 1215 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 1: the fall where this is under control, We're done all 1216 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 1: the right things, and things are beginning to move and 1217 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 1: the president is listening to the scientists, as I said, 1218 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 1: and stopping the you know, the personal attacks on people 1219 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 1: who disagree with him, and I think let's let's get 1220 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 1: away from the childishness of this and focus on the problem. 1221 01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 1: The proof is going to be in eating the pudding. 1222 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to say, Actually, Joe Biden's quote there, everything 1223 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: he said about we got to see where this is 1224 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 1: and let's stop the personal attacks and we'll have time. 1225 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm on. I mean, I think it was a very 1226 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:10,960 Speaker 1: astute thing to say. So, as much as I just 1227 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:12,880 Speaker 1: wanted that the proof is going to be in eating 1228 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 1: the pudding, I just like the way he said that one. 1229 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 1: But actually his analysis there was pretty was pretty good, 1230 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 1: which is that people should stop with the nasty personal 1231 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 1: stuff and let's see where we are in dealing with this. 1232 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 1: I think that's a better approach for all of us. 1233 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 1: It would certainly be a better approach in the media. 1234 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 1: Especially now. Okay, it's hit us. Now we're in the 1235 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 1: midst of this. Now we're in the fight, and we 1236 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 1: know that it's a big one and it's real and 1237 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 1: this is scary. So let's look to do the best 1238 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 1: we can under the circumstances and not do what Pelosi's doing, 1239 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 1: which is just the most disgraceful partisan finger pointing stuff. 1240 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 1: It's it's just bad news. It's bad news. When Pelosi's 1241 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 1: able to do what she does, she does not help 1242 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 1: anybody except herself. You're in the freedom hunt. This is 1243 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 1: the Buck Sex and Show podcast. Everyone has been instructed 1244 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 1: that if they see worship surfaces going, services going on, 1245 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,720 Speaker 1: they will go to the officials of that congregation. They'll 1246 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,960 Speaker 1: inform them they need to stop the services and disperse. 1247 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 1: If that does not happen, they will take additional action, 1248 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 1: up to the point of fines and potentially closing the 1249 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: building permanently, closing the place of worship permanently. The Mayor 1250 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 1: of New York City says, I think everyone heard that 1251 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,480 Speaker 1: and said what But this is what I mean by 1252 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 1: we have been conditioned to think that the threat of 1253 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 1: tyrannical overreach comes from this president. That's what the media 1254 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,680 Speaker 1: has been telling you for years, even though every time 1255 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 1: he's had some policy dispute with the other side, it 1256 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 1: goes to court, he goes all, he goes through the system. 1257 01:07:55,440 --> 01:08:00,959 Speaker 1: You have this bad faith hashtag resistance judiciary that comes 1258 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 1: up with the most preposterous justifications for slowing down this president, 1259 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 1: and they have decisions that they go forward with that 1260 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 1: are just garbage, and then it has to make its 1261 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 1: way through the judiciary, and Trump eventually is right. But 1262 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,719 Speaker 1: they've been telling us that Trump is a threat of 1263 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 1: tyranny for all this time, and now you have the 1264 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,840 Speaker 1: Mayor of New York City saying, yeah, if you have 1265 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 1: a true look, I don't think people in New York 1266 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 1: right now should be gathering in large numbers for any reason, 1267 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,880 Speaker 1: and that includes that includes religious services. There was a 1268 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 1: case in South Korea. They did a whole case study 1269 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 1: of a woman who had COVID nineteen went to services 1270 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,120 Speaker 1: there and infected a whole lot of people in our church. 1271 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,479 Speaker 1: So it can happen, it does happen. It's important not 1272 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,000 Speaker 1: to do that. But to threaten to shut down a 1273 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: place of worship permanently, how is that helpful in this moment? 1274 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 1: And also under what authority? With the Mayor of New York. 1275 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'd come up with some authority, but that 1276 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: is disconcerting. It's also disconcerting that the same person who 1277 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 1: is now telling us all that I'm not gonna say 1278 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 1: all hope is lost, but he has not been the 1279 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 1: mayor of New York has not been a calming presence, 1280 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 1: that's to say the least with all this stuff going on. 1281 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,599 Speaker 1: Here is what he was saying before we saw quite 1282 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,080 Speaker 1: how bad this whole thing was playing sixteen right now, 1283 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,599 Speaker 1: we have twelve hundred hospital beds. That is a very, 1284 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 1: very substantial capacity. The message to the orches from the 1285 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,679 Speaker 1: beginning has been this is something we all can handle together. 1286 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 1: Go about your lives, go about your business. We have 1287 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 1: the capacity to keep this contained. I think we should 1288 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 1: say the other day in the meeting that health and 1289 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,680 Speaker 1: nostrils is in strong shape, something like ventilators. You can 1290 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 1: speak to that on ventilators. New York City is in 1291 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:46,560 Speaker 1: good shape and based on even the most dire predictions 1292 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,840 Speaker 1: of percentages of people who will have serious illness with this, 1293 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,080 Speaker 1: we will be fine. I want to keep encouraging people 1294 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,639 Speaker 1: to go out and live their lives and patronize those businesses. 1295 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 1: One other questions tomorrow evenings. Yes, she's safe of people 1296 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:05,840 Speaker 1: who have Yeah, the point isn't the commissioner can jump in, 1297 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah if you if no one has symptoms, neither the 1298 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 1: visitors nor the people being visited. Yes, that was a 1299 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,839 Speaker 1: lot of guidance, a lot of advice at the president. 1300 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,719 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that the mayor rather was giving the people 1301 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 1: of New York City. How much of that looks in retrospect? 1302 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,760 Speaker 1: Luck it was even a little bit a good idea, 1303 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 1: none of it. You're gonna have a lot of people 1304 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,759 Speaker 1: that are playing the blame game and saying that people 1305 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 1: didn't respond to this properly. They and and it's going 1306 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 1: to be a political nastiness all across the board. I 1307 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 1: would just say that with Deblasio, you know, he's he's 1308 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 1: taking a very firm hand with everybody here in the 1309 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 1: city today, and it's hard for all of us who 1310 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,960 Speaker 1: see this situation not to feel a little bit of well, 1311 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 1: weren't you telling us until recently that everything was going 1312 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 1: to be fine? And now you're telling us everything is 1313 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,559 Speaker 1: the opposite of fine. And he has professional health people. 1314 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 1: All they do is look at this. He listened to 1315 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,360 Speaker 1: the experts we were told, and the experts were wrong 1316 01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 1: on this one too. A lot of people were wrong. 1317 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,719 Speaker 1: Don't pay attention to the finger pointing right now. There's 1318 01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 1: plenty of time for that later. Right now, we've got 1319 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 1: to get through the storm. Thanks for listening to The 1320 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:16,440 Speaker 1: bus Essen Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, 1321 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:21,720 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. In retrospect, 1322 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 1: is that message, at least in part to blame for 1323 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 1: how rapidly the virus has spread across the city, Jake, 1324 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 1: we should not focusing, in my view, on anything looking 1325 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,840 Speaker 1: back on any level of government right now. This is 1326 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 1: just about how we save lives going forward. We all 1327 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,519 Speaker 1: were working, everybody was working with the information we had 1328 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,640 Speaker 1: and trying, of course to avoid panic, and at that 1329 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,160 Speaker 1: point for all of us, trying to keep not only 1330 01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 1: protect lives, but keep the economy and the livelihoods together, 1331 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,559 Speaker 1: keep ensuring that people had money to pay for food 1332 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 1: and medicine. I mean, this was a very different world 1333 01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,640 Speaker 1: just a short time ago. But the bottom line is, 1334 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,639 Speaker 1: when none of us have time to look backwards, I'm 1335 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how we get through to Sunday 1336 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,599 Speaker 1: next Sunday, and then what we do the week after that. 1337 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 1: There's some truth to this, the looking backward right now. 1338 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,680 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously de Blasio is particularly vulnerable to that 1339 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 1: because of the stuff that he was saying. And I've 1340 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 1: played for you before, but we are now all trying 1341 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 1: to just focus on what is ahead of us and 1342 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 1: how we can move forward, how we can do everything 1343 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:27,439 Speaker 1: possible to make the best decisions we can in the 1344 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 1: days ahead as a country, as a nation, as a city, 1345 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 1: as a state, everything all across the board. And it 1346 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 1: is a very different world right now. I mean, there 1347 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:41,599 Speaker 1: were people who were talking even a couple of weeks ago, 1348 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 1: who were looking at models, and some people were saying 1349 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,720 Speaker 1: we could have two million dead, and some people were saying, 1350 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 1: we'll probably have twenty or thirty thousand, something like that, 1351 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,400 Speaker 1: which would be similar to a bad flu season, it 1352 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 1: seems like right now, or actually that's just a pretty 1353 01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,800 Speaker 1: standard flu season. It seems right now like we're gearing 1354 01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:00,559 Speaker 1: up for I mean, the President yesterday claimed that anything 1355 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 1: under one hundred thousand dead from this would be would 1356 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 1: mean that the administration had done a good job. That's 1357 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:10,280 Speaker 1: a that's a shift in thinking. And for a lot 1358 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 1: of us, the calculation about how quickly to get back 1359 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,920 Speaker 1: to work versus at least some of us get back 1360 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,440 Speaker 1: to work with enhanced precautions in place, versus the possibility 1361 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 1: of additional infection. The pendulum is swung in the other 1362 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 1: direction right now, and we are in maximum defense mode 1363 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,800 Speaker 1: against the virus, and the economy is just being put 1364 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,160 Speaker 1: on hold. So I want to tell you what it 1365 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,599 Speaker 1: was like this weekend for me here in the city. 1366 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 1: On the one hand, I have time for cooking, which 1367 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,600 Speaker 1: I will say was nice. I'll maybe get into that 1368 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,439 Speaker 1: a little bit later. I'll tell Producer Market some of 1369 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 1: my cooking exploits. But I went for a walk with 1370 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:48,720 Speaker 1: the dog. And just for those of you who are 1371 01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,640 Speaker 1: worried or saying, why aren't you in quarantine, I mean 1372 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,680 Speaker 1: I am in quarantine. I go out by myself with 1373 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,280 Speaker 1: the dog, and I can walk around my neighborhood. I 1374 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 1: don't see anybody. Really, there's nobody out on the streets. 1375 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,320 Speaker 1: It's empty. I post sit a photo that I took 1376 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 1: on Sixth Avenue facing south here in New York City, 1377 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,400 Speaker 1: and that photo just shows you that not only there 1378 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,800 Speaker 1: are very few people on the street in the most 1379 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 1: crowded what's usually the most crowded part of Manhattan, which 1380 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 1: is the most densely populated part of the Five boroughs 1381 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,320 Speaker 1: as far as I understand it, at least during working hours, 1382 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 1: and there were no cars. I've never seen that before 1383 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,439 Speaker 1: in my life, where there were just no cars, and 1384 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,080 Speaker 1: if there's anything that was close to it, maybe it 1385 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 1: would have been, you know, during a period of incredibly 1386 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 1: heavy snow, and you know the thing, let's snow, as 1387 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 1: we know, it's gonna mouth and we're gonna be okay. 1388 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,280 Speaker 1: This is orders of magnitude more concerning. You know, this 1389 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 1: is exponentially more concerning than honestly any of the natural 1390 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 1: disasters that we've had hitting New York City and at 1391 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:51,800 Speaker 1: least in my lifetime, including Hurricane Sandy. So I walked 1392 01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,800 Speaker 1: around the streets and it's there's an eerie feeling for sure, 1393 01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:01,400 Speaker 1: because there's no people, there's no businesses open. You are 1394 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,880 Speaker 1: very aware here that this is a city. The city 1395 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 1: is sick. I mean, it feels like the city is 1396 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,160 Speaker 1: in lockdown, like it's in some kind of hospital. Ward 1397 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,560 Speaker 1: as a city. And I spoke last week to a 1398 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,479 Speaker 1: doctor friend of mine in one of the hospitals here 1399 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 1: and he told me about the situation. He said, it 1400 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 1: is really bad. There's that photo going around and at 1401 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 1: a Brooklyn hospital. Brooklyn and Queens have been hit the 1402 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,439 Speaker 1: worst so far, but there's a photo going around of 1403 01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:29,599 Speaker 1: bodies being being put into the back of a refrigerated truck. 1404 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,519 Speaker 1: There are refrigerated trucks outside the major hospitals. That's that's 1405 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,320 Speaker 1: all very real, folks. Some of you've been asking me, 1406 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,160 Speaker 1: are these things really happening. Yeah, it is happening. Another 1407 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 1: friend send me a photo from his window of the 1408 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 1: field hospital that they've set up in the very fields 1409 01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,720 Speaker 1: that I used to play sports on as a kid 1410 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,800 Speaker 1: in school. So the field hospitals are out in the 1411 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,320 Speaker 1: fields of Central Park. There is a field hospital now 1412 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,960 Speaker 1: near Mounts One. They've put up big tents and it's 1413 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 1: they're ready for taking patients out there too. I mean, 1414 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,200 Speaker 1: this is where we are. I mean, this is a 1415 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,880 Speaker 1: city that is it's like it's preparing for a war. 1416 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 1: But instead of setting up anti aircraft guns and you know, 1417 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,760 Speaker 1: putting surfaced air missiles and sandbags and things like that, 1418 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 1: we're lining up ventilators and tents and medical personnel. It's 1419 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 1: it's a very it's a very tough time in the city. 1420 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,720 Speaker 1: People have been asking me about the nine eleven comparison. 1421 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,320 Speaker 1: I think this is now. I didn't. I wasn't in 1422 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,280 Speaker 1: New York on nine eleven. I was up at college. 1423 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,559 Speaker 1: I came back. I think within a couple of weeks probably, 1424 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:39,840 Speaker 1: So I was in the city pretty soon after the 1425 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,640 Speaker 1: nine eleven incident happened, and there was already then, I 1426 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,720 Speaker 1: can say, at least a sense that the city was 1427 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 1: gonna was gonna bounce back, We're gonna be okay. You know. 1428 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,639 Speaker 1: There was still that shock and the and the loss 1429 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,240 Speaker 1: of all those people that were died in the towers 1430 01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 1: and the NYPD and FDNY and all the folks who 1431 01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 1: were affected by that. Certainly that was on everyone's minds, 1432 01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,800 Speaker 1: but as a city, there was no sense that the 1433 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,040 Speaker 1: entire city was going to be was going to be 1434 01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,559 Speaker 1: taken down by this, that the city would never really 1435 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 1: be the same, at least I don't remember that at all. 1436 01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 1: Right now, you walk around the streets in every restaurant 1437 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,680 Speaker 1: you pass, everything you see that you go past, you 1438 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 1: think to yourself, they've closed down or they closed for good. 1439 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:29,720 Speaker 1: Every store, every restaurant, every business you walk past them. 1440 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 1: You think how long, how long before they're not able 1441 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,040 Speaker 1: to ever open their doors? And the answer is gonna 1442 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,759 Speaker 1: be a lot of them never do. That's a different feeling, 1443 01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,519 Speaker 1: that's a different place than we've ever been in before 1444 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:45,040 Speaker 1: as as a city, and it's it's very, very distressing. 1445 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 1: I'll also say that there's an element here and this 1446 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,360 Speaker 1: is maybe this won't be a concern at all the NYPD. 1447 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,320 Speaker 1: The police department here has I think a few a 1448 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 1: few thousand people who are outsick now that the department 1449 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,160 Speaker 1: is over. I mean, if you at civilians, it's over 1450 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,960 Speaker 1: forty thousand. I think the uniform personnels in the mid 1451 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,879 Speaker 1: to high thirties. But you've got a couple of thousand 1452 01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 1: officers who are outsick, and you've had a few hundred 1453 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:15,200 Speaker 1: officers who have tested positive for coronavirus at this point. 1454 01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,519 Speaker 1: And if you look at what's going on on the 1455 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:21,840 Speaker 1: streets at this point in time, it feels like it's 1456 01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:28,760 Speaker 1: desolate and eerie and unsafe to Cops are not going 1457 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 1: to deal with the lesser crimes, that's for sure. They've 1458 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,200 Speaker 1: already said in Brooklyn they're not going to prosecute for trespassing, 1459 01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 1: for theft. This is a combustible mix, and no one 1460 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,600 Speaker 1: really is focused right now on the possibility of a 1461 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 1: breakdown in civil society. But it wouldn't take much. It 1462 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 1: would not take much. And you walk the streets of 1463 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,000 Speaker 1: New York City and you have a police force that's 1464 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,120 Speaker 1: already been hit hard by COVID nineteen is going to 1465 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,840 Speaker 1: have more people out in the days ahead, and you 1466 01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,960 Speaker 1: just have a general sense of fear. I mean the 1467 01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,400 Speaker 1: city yesterday was a wet, cold day, It's been soaked 1468 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,559 Speaker 1: in fear. Today is a little bit better, it's a 1469 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,760 Speaker 1: little bit sunnier, and you know, the warm weather I 1470 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 1: think is really going to help a lot. But I 1471 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:14,400 Speaker 1: just hope that we're not in a combustible situation where 1472 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:20,120 Speaker 1: we end up finding ourselves. I just hope we don't 1473 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:25,000 Speaker 1: end up finding ourselves dealing with problems that are caused 1474 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,439 Speaker 1: by the virus in the lockdown to the virus, but 1475 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,120 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with the virus. And that's where 1476 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,519 Speaker 1: I get worried about the moment you start having shortages. 1477 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there are all these stores right now. You 1478 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,920 Speaker 1: can't get toilet paper, you can't get paper towel. You know, 1479 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 1: we're dealing with real shortages because of panic buying. What 1480 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:41,960 Speaker 1: happens when you go to the store and there's there's 1481 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,360 Speaker 1: not food? Now that doesn't feel like it could happen 1482 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:46,840 Speaker 1: right now? How many months of this do we think 1483 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,639 Speaker 1: we can sustain? And what happens if there is just 1484 01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:54,519 Speaker 1: from the unemployment and the anger. I mean, people are upset, 1485 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,719 Speaker 1: they're in their homes, they can't leave. If we have 1486 01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:02,479 Speaker 1: some civil disorder, it's essentially on the streets. Things get 1487 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,559 Speaker 1: very ugly very quickly here. So and I don't think 1488 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:10,200 Speaker 1: that I don't think that they're that that's um out 1489 01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,000 Speaker 1: of the question. And I've spent a lot of time 1490 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,799 Speaker 1: in this city. I've been through a lot in this city, 1491 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:19,519 Speaker 1: and there's a sense right now that one one push 1492 01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,840 Speaker 1: in the wrong direction for us while we're dealing with this, 1493 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 1: and you could have problems pile on topic. Now, maybe 1494 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,160 Speaker 1: this is all wrong. Maybe the people understand how serious 1495 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 1: this is. Everyone's staying home, everyone's scared by the virus. 1496 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's not going to be You might 1497 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,479 Speaker 1: even see a drop in criminal activity city wide. You 1498 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,559 Speaker 1: probably will right now because there's just aren't people out 1499 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,120 Speaker 1: on the streets, and you know, everyone's in their homes. 1500 01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,840 Speaker 1: So unless you're gonna do a home invasion, a burglary 1501 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:49,400 Speaker 1: is a very risky thing to do. But I am. 1502 01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,200 Speaker 1: I am concerned. That's the best thing I can say. 1503 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,640 Speaker 1: But I did see the on the upside. All right, 1504 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,680 Speaker 1: Let's get to the upside for a second. Today is 1505 01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,839 Speaker 1: a tough one, folks. It's tough because Trump just extended 1506 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 1: the thirty days and it seems the administration has been 1507 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:06,000 Speaker 1: swayed to instead of trying to take a more state 1508 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:11,160 Speaker 1: by state and more you know, economy friendly or economy 1509 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 1: surviving approach to this, there's like, nope, forget it, We're 1510 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,200 Speaker 1: just doing total lockdown. We're going for the total lockdown approach. 1511 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,559 Speaker 1: So that's been a bit of a bit of a 1512 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,840 Speaker 1: shock to process in the last twenty four hours. I 1513 01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:28,839 Speaker 1: did see this morning the the hospital ship, the USNS Comfort, 1514 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,160 Speaker 1: the Navy's hospital ship. It came right past my window, 1515 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,880 Speaker 1: so I mean not like I could reach out and 1516 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,840 Speaker 1: touch it, but I could see it from my window 1517 01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,080 Speaker 1: as it sailed in into New York, went up on 1518 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,760 Speaker 1: the went up the Hudson River, and it's out a 1519 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:47,920 Speaker 1: pier not far from intown Manhattan, And that was It's 1520 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,680 Speaker 1: just encouraging to know that we've got the eyes of 1521 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:52,439 Speaker 1: the nation on the city right now, and that the 1522 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,960 Speaker 1: Comfort is going to be there to deal with heart attacks, 1523 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,840 Speaker 1: deal with strokes, deal with you know, all the other 1524 01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,080 Speaker 1: medical issues that do not stop because we are in 1525 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,640 Speaker 1: our homes and there's a virus out there. So it 1526 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,559 Speaker 1: is encouraging right now to see it's encouraging right now 1527 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:11,200 Speaker 1: to see what's going on on the at least in 1528 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:15,200 Speaker 1: that respect, from the from the perspective of trying to 1529 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,880 Speaker 1: have things in place that will help us. And you know, now, 1530 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,479 Speaker 1: I could do the whole dunk on the MSNBC show, 1531 01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,519 Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow's show for saying we'll never get here and 1532 01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,479 Speaker 1: everything else, But you know what, it's not even that's 1533 01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,920 Speaker 1: not even important right now. People are wrong. People are 1534 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:31,400 Speaker 1: wrong all over the place. I don't know anyone who's 1535 01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,760 Speaker 1: who's understood at every phase of this how to handle them, 1536 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:38,040 Speaker 1: what to do. And I think maybe here's the thought, 1537 01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,080 Speaker 1: maybe we could, at least for this week, try to 1538 01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,960 Speaker 1: extend a little more, a little more decency, grace, forgiveness, 1539 01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,400 Speaker 1: and understanding to each other, especially as we try to 1540 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 1: work through this together as a country than we would 1541 01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:52,760 Speaker 1: on other issues. Maybe we could all aspire to that. 1542 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,879 Speaker 1: That would certainly be nice. But the Navy ship arrived. 1543 01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,960 Speaker 1: You got numerous trials going on right now for drugs 1544 01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,120 Speaker 1: that could really be helpful against this. Everyone's focused on 1545 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:06,599 Speaker 1: chloroquin and zpax azithromycin as a possibility. We don't know yet. 1546 01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:11,599 Speaker 1: There's also a drug up in Montreal that's a it's 1547 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,120 Speaker 1: a very inexpensive, very old gout drug, but it deals 1548 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:20,360 Speaker 1: with inflammation and it may it may be useful against us. 1549 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,840 Speaker 1: There's some hope that will be useful against the cytokine 1550 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,520 Speaker 1: flood that occurs in the lungs when you are infected 1551 01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:31,719 Speaker 1: with this, So that's certainly a possibility. And then there's 1552 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,760 Speaker 1: also this big drug out of Gilad rem Severe I 1553 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,960 Speaker 1: think it's called out of Gilead Pharmaceuticals. So those are 1554 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:43,439 Speaker 1: all possible places where things could get could get better. 1555 01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,559 Speaker 1: Those are all areas where we could see a real 1556 01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:52,840 Speaker 1: reason for particular, you know, for some enthusiasm about this 1557 01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,760 Speaker 1: fight and that we've made a breakthrough. We'll have to 1558 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,840 Speaker 1: see if in fact any of them come through, and 1559 01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,519 Speaker 1: that would be a game change. Also, the syrology tests, 1560 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,880 Speaker 1: we got to know who's already had this and how 1561 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,960 Speaker 1: many people in the country have already had it, and 1562 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,760 Speaker 1: then they should be cleared to go back to work 1563 01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,040 Speaker 1: assuming they have immunity, which I mean going back to 1564 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 1: work sooner than later. That would be great, But it's 1565 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 1: going to be my friends. Oh I did well. I'll 1566 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,200 Speaker 1: give you some quarantine updates coming up here in a second. 1567 01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:18,880 Speaker 1: But let me just for a moment talk about what's 1568 01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:24,000 Speaker 1: going on with China. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This 1569 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:31,680 Speaker 1: is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. China is definitely responsible 1570 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,200 Speaker 1: for much of the pain that we are all feeling. 1571 01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,280 Speaker 1: The Chinese Communist part of the Chinese government, not the 1572 01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:40,360 Speaker 1: Chinese people, but the Chinese Communist Party made decisions that 1573 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,600 Speaker 1: have had ramifications throughout the world. I mean, this is 1574 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:47,400 Speaker 1: this is their Chernobyl, but it's much much worse than Chernobyl. Chernobyl, who, 1575 01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:51,040 Speaker 1: as we know, once they managed to take you know, 1576 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,880 Speaker 1: they managed to try to address the problem. It did 1577 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:59,200 Speaker 1: not turn into the global destruction mechanism that many were 1578 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,280 Speaker 1: concerned it would be. Um, this is sure, noble if 1579 01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,000 Speaker 1: the worst case scenarios actually came true of the initial 1580 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,320 Speaker 1: projection of putting all of that radiation into the air, 1581 01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:11,800 Speaker 1: that would spread everywhere else. And the Chinese government is 1582 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,840 Speaker 1: lying about this, has been lying about it at every step. 1583 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,040 Speaker 1: Here's a guy from the World Health Organization, though he's 1584 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,880 Speaker 1: being asked a question by a journalist. I believe a 1585 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,920 Speaker 1: journalist from Hong Kong about different countries responses to this. 1586 01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,600 Speaker 1: And the guy's name is Bruce Aylward. He's from the 1587 01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:28,880 Speaker 1: World Health Organization. Just notice notice how he handles this question. 1588 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:43,400 Speaker 1: Play five considered Hiwan's membership. Hello, it was I couldn't 1589 01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,559 Speaker 1: hear your question. Okay, let me let me let me 1590 01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:51,120 Speaker 1: repeat the questions right, because because I'm actually curious on 1591 01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:57,599 Speaker 1: talking about Taiwan as well on Taiwan's case, we decided 1592 01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,040 Speaker 1: to give doctor Alward another call to fund and I 1593 01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,040 Speaker 1: just want to see if you can comment a bit 1594 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,439 Speaker 1: on how Taiwan has done so far in terms of 1595 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:10,320 Speaker 1: containing the fires. Well, we've already talked about China, and 1596 01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,439 Speaker 1: you know, when you look across all the different areas 1597 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,519 Speaker 1: of China, they've actually all done a good job. So 1598 01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,559 Speaker 1: with that, i'd like to thank you very much for 1599 01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,479 Speaker 1: inviting us to participate, and good luck as you go 1600 01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,400 Speaker 1: forward with the battle in Hong Kong. We've already talked 1601 01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:30,760 Speaker 1: about China. Wow. World Health Organization representative here is like, 1602 01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,320 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, we do we do the Chinese bidding 1603 01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:38,479 Speaker 1: on this issue. Chinese don't recognize Taiwan. We don't recognize Taiwan. 1604 01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,920 Speaker 1: We won't even talk about Taiwan. So when people talk 1605 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:48,080 Speaker 1: about the propaganda situation, when people discuss the reality here 1606 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:53,799 Speaker 1: of Chinese propaganda being used by Western media, just understand 1607 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:58,920 Speaker 1: there's also international organizations that succumbed to this pressure. There's 1608 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:00,479 Speaker 1: a story. You know, I'm not to get an tomorrow 1609 01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 1: a little bit because I don't really have time for 1610 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 1: it today. I want to get to Roll call. But 1611 01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,559 Speaker 1: there's a story about how did China mess up so 1612 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,760 Speaker 1: badly when it came to dealing with this because they're 1613 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be They've been preparing for this for a 1614 01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,920 Speaker 1: long time. They have in place, what were the most 1615 01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,960 Speaker 1: robust reporting mechanisms possible. That was what they thought, that 1616 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 1: was what they were telling everybody, stretching back for over 1617 01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,840 Speaker 1: a decade. How can the Chinese government get this so wrong? 1618 01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:32,280 Speaker 1: And the answer is the Chinese government doesn't care about 1619 01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,640 Speaker 1: human life. It cares about power. But there's a more complicated, 1620 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,240 Speaker 1: in the weeds version of why the Chinese government mess 1621 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:39,720 Speaker 1: this up so badly, and I will get into that, 1622 01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,240 Speaker 1: but you know, the world health organizations also willing to 1623 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,080 Speaker 1: take China's word for it. You know a lot of 1624 01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,800 Speaker 1: these international organizations One of the problems, whether it's the UN, 1625 01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,360 Speaker 1: the who you name it, one of the big issues 1626 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,599 Speaker 1: is that they have this mentality of treating all nations 1627 01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:56,880 Speaker 1: like they're equally decent regimes, like the act of the 1628 01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:01,760 Speaker 1: people that are engaged in, you know, the day to 1629 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,160 Speaker 1: day governance, are all are all just like each other. 1630 01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 1: You know, one country is as good as another country. 1631 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:10,799 Speaker 1: There's the equivalent of moral relativism expanded out through nation 1632 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,640 Speaker 1: states that exists in all these international institutions, and it 1633 01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 1: leads to things like this where you have China being 1634 01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,720 Speaker 1: treated like it's a good guy here by the World 1635 01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:23,519 Speaker 1: Health Organization, and just a refusal to talk about Taiwan, 1636 01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,080 Speaker 1: which is an independent country. I mean, right now, Taiwan 1637 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,520 Speaker 1: is an independent country. We're in the middle of a pandemic, 1638 01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:30,680 Speaker 1: and we can't talk about what Taiwan is doing. We're 1639 01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:32,880 Speaker 1: going to just say that it's part of China. That 1640 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 1: would be news to Taiwan, by the way. So the 1641 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,680 Speaker 1: World Health Organization and some of these other bodies that 1642 01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,240 Speaker 1: are supposed to be a political and just helping us 1643 01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,559 Speaker 1: out with the disease, just remember that they're all these 1644 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:50,080 Speaker 1: big international institutions are very political and the Chinese government 1645 01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,320 Speaker 1: is going to not just try to avoid blame for this, 1646 01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,120 Speaker 1: They're going to They're going to try to capitalize on 1647 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:59,320 Speaker 1: the situation as much as they can. And look, I 1648 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,160 Speaker 1: start to get work. What if China recognizes our financial 1649 01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:06,240 Speaker 1: weakness and decides that they can they can afford because 1650 01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 1: of their manufacturing base and their accessing out of raw 1651 01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:14,400 Speaker 1: materials because of the Belton Road policy. What if they 1652 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,320 Speaker 1: decide a dump US treasuries the tune of a few 1653 01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:19,880 Speaker 1: trillion dollars they own. Well, we'll get into China more tomorrow, 1654 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,920 Speaker 1: I think. What we'll do more of a deep dive 1655 01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,639 Speaker 1: into China and the COVID nineteen crisis. Roll calls up next. 1656 01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:30,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember 1657 01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,839 Speaker 1: to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever 1658 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,960 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. And by the way, I really 1659 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,639 Speaker 1: do appreciate all of you writing in now more than ever. 1660 01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,040 Speaker 1: It's like my connection to the outside world. So I'm 1661 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:44,880 Speaker 1: stuck here in quarantine. I feel a little bit like 1662 01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,720 Speaker 1: Matt Damon in The Martian and you guys are my 1663 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,640 Speaker 1: comms back to Earth. So thank you so much for 1664 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,200 Speaker 1: writing in and sharing all your thoughts. All right, let's 1665 01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:57,240 Speaker 1: get you Alex. I heard Mark. Hey, producer Mark, how 1666 01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:58,720 Speaker 1: are you, by the way, buddy, we haven't even checked 1667 01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,880 Speaker 1: in with the at house producer Mark. I'm doing well, well, 1668 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:04,120 Speaker 1: thank you? You are right. Yeah, everything's great here so far, 1669 01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,080 Speaker 1: so good with you in quarantine? At least you know 1670 01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:09,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a goldfish or something, or maybe a plant. 1671 01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't really see how a goldfish or a plant 1672 01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,640 Speaker 1: would keep me occupied for very long. Yeah, but you 1673 01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:17,479 Speaker 1: know a company, Yeah, I mean I guess, yeah, not really. 1674 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:21,200 Speaker 1: But what is are you alerting dogs? No? I love dogs. Oh, 1675 01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,320 Speaker 1: you love dogs. It's just expensive to be in this 1676 01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,880 Speaker 1: apartment building. Yeah. And plus right now, you wouldn't want 1677 01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,640 Speaker 1: to be house training a dog. That's for exactly, so 1678 01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,800 Speaker 1: you don't want to be outside all the time. I 1679 01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,120 Speaker 1: got a dog here. She directs my life right down. 1680 01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:33,599 Speaker 1: Whenever she wants to go out, I gotta go out. 1681 01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,320 Speaker 1: Whatever she wants is what I gotta do. So it's 1682 01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:39,160 Speaker 1: it's busy. It's amazing. What dog hasn't interrupted the show yet? Yeah, 1683 01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,439 Speaker 1: she's very quiet. I mean she's in the room with 1684 01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:43,120 Speaker 1: me all the time. In fact, I will tell you this. 1685 01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,760 Speaker 1: She actually sleeps on my feet sometimes as I'm doing 1686 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,639 Speaker 1: the radio show at least feeling great. She's like, she's 1687 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,280 Speaker 1: like a little baby seal warming my feet with her 1688 01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,559 Speaker 1: with her white fur and her blubber. It's great. She's 1689 01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,439 Speaker 1: a chubby one. You're gonna make saying that. She's gonna 1690 01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:58,960 Speaker 1: be so mad at me for saying that, but she 1691 01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:02,360 Speaker 1: knows it's coming. Come on. She's a soft She's a 1692 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:06,000 Speaker 1: full figured French bulldog, that is for sure. All right now, 1693 01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,840 Speaker 1: Mark is okay, so we're good with that. I heard 1694 01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Mark mentioned Mitch Rap That's one series I like. Who 1695 01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,479 Speaker 1: was going to recommend it to you? Vince Flynn is 1696 01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:16,240 Speaker 1: the author. Daniel Silva's Gabriel Alan series is good too. 1697 01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:18,920 Speaker 1: And if you like short podcasts, you should check out 1698 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:20,880 Speaker 1: the way I heard it with Mike Roe Shields Hie 1699 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:25,479 Speaker 1: good Sir Alex, thank you for all those recommendations. I 1700 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:29,120 Speaker 1: do appreciate that, and I will say that what you know, 1701 01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,240 Speaker 1: what I did over the weekend like everybody else, because 1702 01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,840 Speaker 1: I feel like there's this greater sense now more than ever, 1703 01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,479 Speaker 1: that you want to have some community with people and 1704 01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,360 Speaker 1: you want to be able to talk to them about 1705 01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,120 Speaker 1: things you're watching. Because I can't see people, I can't 1706 01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,760 Speaker 1: experience things with them. I can't go for walks with them, 1707 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,600 Speaker 1: or or go to dinner with them, or you know, 1708 01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,720 Speaker 1: I can't cook dinner for my parents right now, which 1709 01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,720 Speaker 1: I like to do sometimes. So watching things and being 1710 01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:53,759 Speaker 1: able to talk about them is fun. I did watch 1711 01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:56,960 Speaker 1: the Tiger King mark. Did you get to it yet? No? 1712 01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,120 Speaker 1: We were binging a different show this weekend. What'd you 1713 01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:01,320 Speaker 1: binge over the weekend? The one about a creek that 1714 01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,920 Speaker 1: I can't say the first name of them? That? Oh yeah, okay, 1715 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:06,960 Speaker 1: are you almost done with that one? We got through 1716 01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,800 Speaker 1: two seasons just this weekend alone, so we are pretty 1717 01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:13,040 Speaker 1: much pretty close to the end. Yeah. Nice, Okay, cool. Well, 1718 01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:14,519 Speaker 1: I'm very curious to hear what your thoughts are on 1719 01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,879 Speaker 1: Tiger King. I thought Tiger King the first couple of episodes, 1720 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:20,080 Speaker 1: we're pretty amazing, very entertaining. Then I think it kind 1721 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:21,960 Speaker 1: of I think it's seven episodes in total. Then it 1722 01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,639 Speaker 1: kind of got a little bit, a little two into things, 1723 01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:28,600 Speaker 1: it got a little depressing, and it finished Okay, it finished, okay, 1724 01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,719 Speaker 1: But the first two episodes are just are just mind boggling. 1725 01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty amazing stuff that goes on. If 1726 01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,000 Speaker 1: I here's here's the question for you, producer Mark, if 1727 01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,760 Speaker 1: you if you could have if you had to have 1728 01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:46,120 Speaker 1: any exotic and dangerous animal, meaning it has to actually 1729 01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,519 Speaker 1: prove some some threat to your safety, but you got 1730 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,559 Speaker 1: to have it as a pet. So we're talking lines tigers, bears, 1731 01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:59,000 Speaker 1: oh my king Cobra's, elephants, hippopotami. What do you go for? 1732 01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:04,200 Speaker 1: This is a ridiculous question. There was any higher series 1733 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,920 Speaker 1: just about people that do exactly this. I mean, I 1734 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:10,400 Speaker 1: guess lying cubs are kind of cute, exactly, that's what 1735 01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:15,719 Speaker 1: most people go for. Panda. Yeah, I like that answer. 1736 01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,720 Speaker 1: I think a panda is actually an excellent choice. They're 1737 01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,240 Speaker 1: very cute, and yes they're bears, and they're dangerous and 1738 01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,040 Speaker 1: they're big. I wouldn't want to pet them though. Do 1739 01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:24,360 Speaker 1: you ever see the video of the guy that got 1740 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,360 Speaker 1: too close to a panda cage in China and it 1741 01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:29,560 Speaker 1: grabs him and holds him against the bars, and you realize, oh, 1742 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,360 Speaker 1: it's a lot stronger than me. Yeah, it's not a puppy, 1743 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:35,639 Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah, it's not a cute little They look cute, 1744 01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:39,040 Speaker 1: but they're actually big bears. The one thing that would 1745 01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:40,920 Speaker 1: scare me more than I think a lot of people would. 1746 01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:46,880 Speaker 1: I think I think the larger primates, so baboons and chimpanzees. 1747 01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:51,559 Speaker 1: When those guys go bad, it's it's very bad. They're 1748 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,800 Speaker 1: really scary. M I would also recommend anybody that wants 1749 01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:56,840 Speaker 1: to I've told you about Project Nim many times. That's 1750 01:33:56,840 --> 01:34:01,240 Speaker 1: a great a great documentary on on chimpanzees. And I 1751 01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:05,240 Speaker 1: would also say for me, I would want a Bobcat. 1752 01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:07,760 Speaker 1: I just think a bobcat would be really cool and 1753 01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,120 Speaker 1: it's pretty realistic too. You could have a pet Bobcat 1754 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:13,719 Speaker 1: at home and it wouldn't take up that much space. 1755 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,800 Speaker 1: It's about the size of a of like a labrador. 1756 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:17,559 Speaker 1: I mean, they're maybe even a little smaller than a labrador. 1757 01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,599 Speaker 1: They're not that big. So I don't know. Maybe maybe 1758 01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:22,519 Speaker 1: I'll get a pet bobcat one. All right, you do that, 1759 01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,320 Speaker 1: let me know how it goes. I'm never coming over, Okay, 1760 01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:27,599 Speaker 1: I'll bring it to work. We'll make sure it's safe 1761 01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,360 Speaker 1: for you though. Tracy hey Buck and producer Mark, I 1762 01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,000 Speaker 1: just want to say thank you for showing up every day. 1763 01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to stay up on the news, but I 1764 01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,920 Speaker 1: get so annoyed seeing all the lies. I've had to 1765 01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:38,040 Speaker 1: steer clear of social media because I get sucked in 1766 01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,479 Speaker 1: by ill informed friends. If I just listen to you guys, 1767 01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,160 Speaker 1: it centers my chee. I feel like I know what's 1768 01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:45,240 Speaker 1: going on. Be safe, keep those shields high. We appreciate you, 1769 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,640 Speaker 1: and you're in my prayers. Well, Tracy, we appreciate you. 1770 01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:50,439 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and we certainly try to keep 1771 01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:53,559 Speaker 1: things centered and and and good to go. Mark, can 1772 01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,880 Speaker 1: you see the how far are you from the from 1773 01:34:55,880 --> 01:35:00,559 Speaker 1: the Hudson? I can see swamp. I can't see Hudson. 1774 01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,840 Speaker 1: Can't you see swam not Hudson. I'm just wondering if 1775 01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:04,920 Speaker 1: you were able to catch a glimpse, because if you 1776 01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:06,800 Speaker 1: were in Jersey City, for example, you definitely would have 1777 01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:10,240 Speaker 1: been able to see the ship coming up the Hudson. 1778 01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:11,439 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a pretty big to do because 1779 01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,400 Speaker 1: they're all the helicopters and the tug boats and stuff 1780 01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,280 Speaker 1: around it, So it was a pretty big, pretty big scene. 1781 01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:22,320 Speaker 1: But you know, swamp, swamp is good. Swamp is good too. Christy, 1782 01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,559 Speaker 1: hey Buck, thank you and producer Mark were still doing 1783 01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:26,519 Speaker 1: the show every day. You guys are so nice. Thank you. 1784 01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,439 Speaker 1: Our city stay at home order begins tomorrow through April sixteenth, 1785 01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:31,120 Speaker 1: but I work in law enforcements, so I still have 1786 01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:32,960 Speaker 1: to head to the office. I am glad to have 1787 01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,320 Speaker 1: a job though, and a change of scenery from my house. 1788 01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,479 Speaker 1: My cats are likely tired of me talking video of 1789 01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,720 Speaker 1: taking video and photos of them. I'm just trying to 1790 01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:42,800 Speaker 1: make them into social media influencers so they can bring 1791 01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,599 Speaker 1: some revenue and stop freeloading. Also, I really miss sports, 1792 01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:49,040 Speaker 1: social distance hugs from North Carolina. Well, Christie, thank you, 1793 01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,439 Speaker 1: and yeah, we all we all missed those distractions. I 1794 01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:52,920 Speaker 1: think that's one of the reasons this is so hard 1795 01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,479 Speaker 1: for us all psychologically, is that we don't have those 1796 01:35:56,120 --> 01:36:01,120 Speaker 1: those real things to focus our attend And it makes 1797 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:04,800 Speaker 1: me appreciate actually how much sports professional sports are so 1798 01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:09,120 Speaker 1: really useful to people. Yeah, it's entertainment, but even beyond 1799 01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:12,639 Speaker 1: that as as escape and as an emotional focus into 1800 01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:17,200 Speaker 1: something that's that's positive and that's you know, how would 1801 01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:19,080 Speaker 1: you describe a producer, Mark, I mean, when you're watching 1802 01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,599 Speaker 1: a Great Rangers game, where does your mind go? I mean, yeah, 1803 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,640 Speaker 1: it's it's an escape. But if you remember in New 1804 01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,719 Speaker 1: York right after nine to eleven. The first sporting event 1805 01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,679 Speaker 1: after nine eleven was on September twenty first, I believe 1806 01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:32,599 Speaker 1: the Mets played the Braves. Mike Piazza hit a game 1807 01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:36,120 Speaker 1: winning home run and that building shook. It made everyone 1808 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,200 Speaker 1: smile for the first time since the towers fell, and 1809 01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:41,840 Speaker 1: it was such an escape for everyone. I think that's 1810 01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:43,719 Speaker 1: the big difference you were talking about nine to eleven 1811 01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:46,360 Speaker 1: before in comparison to this is we don't know when 1812 01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,439 Speaker 1: it's gonna end. We don't know when we can smile again. 1813 01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:51,479 Speaker 1: That's what sports did back then, and I mean, I 1814 01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:55,280 Speaker 1: just hope sports can come back sometime to make people smile. Yeah. 1815 01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,559 Speaker 1: And by the way, we do have the We do 1816 01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:03,040 Speaker 1: have that clip of here's here's a agreed upon socially 1817 01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 1: distanced cheering from buildings all over New York City for 1818 01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:08,400 Speaker 1: people who are out there on the front lines keeping 1819 01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:23,160 Speaker 1: work going. Can you play that audio? See producer Mark. 1820 01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,000 Speaker 1: I even liked the whistling there. Yeah, I was wondering 1821 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:27,840 Speaker 1: if you would complain about the whistling, but no, I 1822 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,439 Speaker 1: even liked it. Yeah, it was necessary. Yep, that was 1823 01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:33,240 Speaker 1: good whistling. That was a very nice moment. It was. 1824 01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:35,519 Speaker 1: I mean really, if you see the video of it, 1825 01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,639 Speaker 1: it's even better because you can tell that there's people 1826 01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,519 Speaker 1: in buildings all over a part of New York just 1827 01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:44,840 Speaker 1: cheering for our first responders, cheering for doctors, nurses, people 1828 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,720 Speaker 1: on the front lines of this thing. So it was 1829 01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,400 Speaker 1: a moment. You're going to see more of that, which 1830 01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:51,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna need too. I mean, keeping morale high right 1831 01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:56,439 Speaker 1: now is very, very important. Sarah, hey Buck, I love 1832 01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:59,920 Speaker 1: the trivia about your mom being a professional ballet dancer. 1833 01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,519 Speaker 1: I teach at a classical ballet school that I hope 1834 01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,280 Speaker 1: will still be in business once this is over. We 1835 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:07,000 Speaker 1: started live streaming classes this week, which is nothing like 1836 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,400 Speaker 1: the real thing. My hubby and I were supposed to 1837 01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,040 Speaker 1: fly to New York City with our son this morning 1838 01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,479 Speaker 1: for his senior trip. Now we're wondering if he'll be 1839 01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,200 Speaker 1: graduating from high school on time. Hopefully we'll be able 1840 01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:17,920 Speaker 1: to make the Big Apple too. With all the TV 1841 01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,840 Speaker 1: show talk, I haven't heard one anyone mentioned Mozart in 1842 01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:24,439 Speaker 1: the Jungle. It's one of my favorites. I love your podcast. 1843 01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:26,280 Speaker 1: I'll look forward to it every day. Shield Hie, Sarah 1844 01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:29,439 Speaker 1: and Arizona, Well, thank you so much, Sarah, and I 1845 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:34,559 Speaker 1: haven't seen Mozart in the jungle, so sounds good. It 1846 01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:37,240 Speaker 1: takes place in Manhattan anything, it takes place in a 1847 01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,479 Speaker 1: normal New York right now, though it is going to 1848 01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,240 Speaker 1: be a little tough for me because it's such a 1849 01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:45,200 Speaker 1: right and this is the hardest it's ever been to 1850 01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:48,120 Speaker 1: be in this city right now, through all the natural disasters, 1851 01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,439 Speaker 1: through nine to eleven, this is this is really right now, 1852 01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,800 Speaker 1: I think is the most it's the toughest period we've 1853 01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:57,320 Speaker 1: gone through. Jeff hey Buck, I really enjoy your podcast 1854 01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,840 Speaker 1: and how you systematically tear down the leftist narrative is 1855 01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,639 Speaker 1: really disgusting what the media, democrats they're one of the same, 1856 01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:05,040 Speaker 1: are doing with this crisis. I find that interesting that 1857 01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:07,519 Speaker 1: these same liberal governors say we can risk one life 1858 01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:14,280 Speaker 1: with this virus while also advocating for effect fourth trimester abortions, 1859 01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,760 Speaker 1: fourth being shortly after birth. How about those precious lives. 1860 01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,000 Speaker 1: There's no consistency at all. Stuck working from home in Charlotte, 1861 01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:25,559 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Yeah, I mean it's first of all, thank 1862 01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,120 Speaker 1: you for listening to podcast, and I'm really glad you 1863 01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:29,439 Speaker 1: enjoy you get something out of it every day and 1864 01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:33,880 Speaker 1: as for the not risking one life with the virus, 1865 01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:36,479 Speaker 1: I mean, that's this make this feels good for people 1866 01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,320 Speaker 1: to say it's just not true. And I know it's 1867 01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,519 Speaker 1: really easy to demagogue this and show people down, but 1868 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,360 Speaker 1: we make we as a society take risks all the 1869 01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:46,519 Speaker 1: time that we know will end in risks. Right now. 1870 01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:48,800 Speaker 1: There's a difference between shoving somebody off a cliff and 1871 01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,679 Speaker 1: saying somebody, all right, you know you can drive down 1872 01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:53,840 Speaker 1: this road, but some people may skid off the end 1873 01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,439 Speaker 1: of this cliff and we still want a road here. 1874 01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:59,720 Speaker 1: That's not the same thing. Yeah, Beverly Ruts, could you 1875 01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:03,200 Speaker 1: please up Tlu on your lap again during your live broadcast. 1876 01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:05,280 Speaker 1: She's so cute and thank you for making my day 1877 01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:11,200 Speaker 1: so much better. Well, Beverly, maybe we'll do a Facebook 1878 01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:13,920 Speaker 1: live with Toulu and maybe we can bring her into 1879 01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,320 Speaker 1: some of the If you're not already watching on Pluto 1880 01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:20,120 Speaker 1: TV channel two forty eight, the first please do. Pluto 1881 01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,160 Speaker 1: TV is a great app for you to have right now. 1882 01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,880 Speaker 1: Think of it like you're just adding an entirely new 1883 01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:29,280 Speaker 1: cable TV lineup. But it's free, free, free, free on 1884 01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:31,280 Speaker 1: your phone and you just click the channels. You want 1885 01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,760 Speaker 1: to have a lot of channels. The first is the 1886 01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:37,360 Speaker 1: channel that I'm on with Jesse Kelly, Dana Lash, Mike Slater. 1887 01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:41,320 Speaker 1: And it's just think of it like we're keeping you 1888 01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:43,519 Speaker 1: company and bringing you up to speed every day, and 1889 01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:45,599 Speaker 1: you can watch video of it and we're all connected. 1890 01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:47,439 Speaker 1: It's like it's like I'm doing a FaceTime call with 1891 01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:49,519 Speaker 1: every single one of you who's watching on Pluto TV. 1892 01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:52,040 Speaker 1: That's kind of what it looks like too. But that's 1893 01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:53,960 Speaker 1: because I have to do this from home. People are asking, well, 1894 01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,400 Speaker 1: what is your studio look like that, Well, it's because 1895 01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:58,760 Speaker 1: we aren't allowed to be in studios anymore because of 1896 01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:02,760 Speaker 1: the global pandemic, so there are some some trade offs 1897 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,519 Speaker 1: we have to make. And as for Talu, yeah, Talula 1898 01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:09,240 Speaker 1: is a lot of fun and she's great for live 1899 01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:11,479 Speaker 1: broadcasts and we'll bring her back into it as soon 1900 01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,559 Speaker 1: as we can. She doesn't like to sit for that long, 1901 01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:16,559 Speaker 1: but say sometimes she gets a little squirmy, you know, 1902 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:19,839 Speaker 1: she wants to go and sniff and find like leftover 1903 01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:22,400 Speaker 1: chicken on the floor somewhere. I gotta keep my floors 1904 01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:25,080 Speaker 1: really clean because otherwise there's any food in the kitchen 1905 01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:27,599 Speaker 1: on the floor. She goes right for it. She's amazing 1906 01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:31,000 Speaker 1: that a little sense of smells incredible. I got her, 1907 01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:33,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I got her some doggy steps 1908 01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:35,200 Speaker 1: so that she doesn't have to bother me when she 1909 01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:36,360 Speaker 1: wants to be at the foot of the bed or 1910 01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:37,600 Speaker 1: when she wants to get up on the couch. She 1911 01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:39,559 Speaker 1: likes to do this thing where she winds and then 1912 01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,360 Speaker 1: i'd come over and pick her up. And she weighs 1913 01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:45,559 Speaker 1: about thirty thirty two pounds. I think, so she's a thick, 1914 01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,360 Speaker 1: as I said, a full figured boss, a full figured 1915 01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:53,280 Speaker 1: French bulldog. I got her stairs that she can climb up, 1916 01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:54,880 Speaker 1: and I kept doing this thing where I would hold 1917 01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:56,240 Speaker 1: a little piece of chicken at the top of the 1918 01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,719 Speaker 1: stairs to see if she'd walk up, and she would 1919 01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,439 Speaker 1: immediately run around to the other end of the couch, 1920 01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:02,760 Speaker 1: or run around the other end of the bed and 1921 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,799 Speaker 1: jump up like she's evil Kinneval all of a sudden, 1922 01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,679 Speaker 1: and she's doing a trick where she's flying over twenty 1923 01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:11,120 Speaker 1: cars or something, jump right up onto the bed, jump 1924 01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:12,680 Speaker 1: right up onto the couch, and take the chicken out 1925 01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,360 Speaker 1: of my hand. So she doesn't need the stairs. She 1926 01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:18,040 Speaker 1: won't use the stairs when there's chicken involved. But when 1927 01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,920 Speaker 1: there's no chicken, I am the human elevator and I 1928 01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:24,679 Speaker 1: have to make sure that I pick her up. You're 1929 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:28,440 Speaker 1: in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. 1930 01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,320 Speaker 1: All right, we got married. Good evening, Buck, first time 1931 01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:37,000 Speaker 1: watching you on Pluto TV. Thank you for all you do. 1932 01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:38,880 Speaker 1: But I can't help looking over your shoulder and seeing 1933 01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:40,519 Speaker 1: how high up you are. I don't think I could 1934 01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:42,639 Speaker 1: live that high. Keep up the good work. I enjoy 1935 01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:45,160 Speaker 1: your show. Oh Mary, I'm glad you got to watch 1936 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,439 Speaker 1: it on Pluto TV. Thank you for tuning in, and 1937 01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,840 Speaker 1: for everybody else out there listening on Radio World. If 1938 01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:51,960 Speaker 1: you want, you can always check us out on video two. 1939 01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:55,840 Speaker 1: And yes, I am very My apartment is very high 1940 01:42:55,920 --> 01:43:02,080 Speaker 1: up I am. I live higher than probably ninety five 1941 01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:06,639 Speaker 1: percent of you have a building where you in your 1942 01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:08,840 Speaker 1: town or city that's as high as where I live. 1943 01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:10,960 Speaker 1: I think that's probably fair to say, maybe have a 1944 01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,080 Speaker 1: five percent of you listening, maybe ten percent of you listening. 1945 01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean I'm way up. I'm over forty stories in 1946 01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,120 Speaker 1: the air, So that's that's up there. I don't know 1947 01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:22,479 Speaker 1: how many cities even have that many residential towers over 1948 01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:25,960 Speaker 1: forty stories. But it's I'm up, I'm up in the sky. 1949 01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:31,880 Speaker 1: It's a great view, but it's it's. Yeah, you don't 1950 01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:33,719 Speaker 1: want to look down too close to the window sometimes, 1951 01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:37,800 Speaker 1: that's for sure, Mike buck Neither CBS, nor ABC, nor 1952 01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:42,280 Speaker 1: nor eight NBC aired the task Force update today. The 1953 01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:44,680 Speaker 1: CBS even news reporter claim that Trump wouldn't talk to 1954 01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:48,040 Speaker 1: governors of Washington and Michigan unless they appreciated him. That's 1955 01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,439 Speaker 1: not what he said. She gave the false impression that 1956 01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:52,439 Speaker 1: he's holding up assistance until they kiss his button. Now 1957 01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,240 Speaker 1: the media can lie and twist around what he says, 1958 01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:56,200 Speaker 1: and we can hear we can't hear the important info 1959 01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:59,040 Speaker 1: provided by these updates. Yeah, Mike, I mean, I think 1960 01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,479 Speaker 1: it's absurd that they're not running the press conference. They're 1961 01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:03,960 Speaker 1: not letting us see exactly what the president says on 1962 01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:07,880 Speaker 1: those channels. What could be more newsworthy than the press conference? 1963 01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,320 Speaker 1: You know, what could be more newsworthy? I just I 1964 01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:14,240 Speaker 1: asked that question in all honesty. Jerry, Hey, Buck, I'm 1965 01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,759 Speaker 1: oss listening to the podcast. It's good to hear feisty 1966 01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,720 Speaker 1: in the trenches fighting buck back. I didn't vote for 1967 01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:21,680 Speaker 1: Trump but listening to press or Friday, I thought out loud, 1968 01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:23,720 Speaker 1: thank God for Trump. I'm in the trenches with you now. 1969 01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:26,519 Speaker 1: Shield's high. Well, Jerry, thank you man. And I'm if 1970 01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:29,120 Speaker 1: I seem like I'm just not as as feisty in 1971 01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:31,840 Speaker 1: the fight today, it's just I'm a little yesterday was 1972 01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:33,840 Speaker 1: it felt like a setback with the extension of the 1973 01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,800 Speaker 1: quarantine managers here for a month. But I'll be back 1974 01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:40,439 Speaker 1: in action tomorrow. I'll be back in action doing all 1975 01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:43,360 Speaker 1: that stuff, so it'll be It'll be good for sure. 1976 01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:49,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll see, we'll see. Um, let's see what 1977 01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:53,720 Speaker 1: we got here, Karen. Please don't try to cut your 1978 01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:57,040 Speaker 1: own hair. I'm ninety nine percent sure you will be sorry. 1979 01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,760 Speaker 1: If you can't find a hat big enough, tell us 1980 01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:01,960 Speaker 1: you're head circumference. And I bet someone on Team Buck 1981 01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,920 Speaker 1: could knit you a hat, or you could wear a 1982 01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:10,559 Speaker 1: scarf Pirates style or a turban um. What do we 1983 01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,280 Speaker 1: really I can't cut my own hair. I trimmed the 1984 01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:15,360 Speaker 1: beard down a little bit because a beard was getting 1985 01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:20,960 Speaker 1: really it was starting to look like Tom Hanks and castaway. Uh, 1986 01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, here we go, ned you a hat or 1987 01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:25,720 Speaker 1: a scarf? What what do you think I like the 1988 01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:30,160 Speaker 1: turban idea. I could definitely do a knit hat if 1989 01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,160 Speaker 1: somebody has a great idea for that. That says team 1990 01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:36,240 Speaker 1: buck on, it's gonna wear a hat indoors um, Yes, 1991 01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:40,160 Speaker 1: when you're on the show. Uh, yeah, I guess I 1992 01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,840 Speaker 1: don't know U. So yeah, we will. We will have 1993 01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:47,679 Speaker 1: to see how that goes. Fiona. That sound like Trump. 1994 01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:49,640 Speaker 1: We'll see, We're looking at it. We'll see. With Buck's hair, 1995 01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,360 Speaker 1: We'll see. I love your show. I'd regularly of the podcast. 1996 01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,479 Speaker 1: I'm listening to your three twenty seven show. Now, you 1997 01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:57,800 Speaker 1: spoke very unfavorably of the actions of Representative Massey of 1998 01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:00,640 Speaker 1: Kentucky me the statement, you don't lecture someone constitution when 1999 01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:03,800 Speaker 1: their house is burning down. I respectfully disagree. Our constitution 2000 01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:06,839 Speaker 1: is necessary to give guidance and provide guard rails, especially 2001 01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:09,280 Speaker 1: in times at crisis. Well, yeah, but it wasn't about 2002 01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:12,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't a constitutional issue, So that's actually a bad 2003 01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:14,600 Speaker 1: example that I used. It was a legislative issue that 2004 01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,560 Speaker 1: had to do with too much spending. It wasn't like 2005 01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:22,000 Speaker 1: they were rounding people up and putting them in camps. So, Fiona, 2006 01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:23,960 Speaker 1: I just had to say that it wasn't enough of 2007 01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:26,680 Speaker 1: an emergency to justify what Massey was saying he was 2008 01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:27,960 Speaker 1: going to do, which is why he didn't do it, 2009 01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:31,160 Speaker 1: and he backed down. Thank you everybody for listening. We'll 2010 01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:34,320 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. We will be better, stronger in the future. 2011 01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:38,760 Speaker 1: Today we fight, we stay together, shields high,