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Speaker 3: Couple, Martin.

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Speaker 1: When we had the NBA Finals, which you jumped in

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Speaker 1: a couple of times, overall, you were excited about this

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Speaker 1: from just a sports fan, from a basketball fan. You

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Speaker 1: weren't one of those blah blah NBA Finals, who's watching this?

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Speaker 3: You were in? Yeah, to me, shocking turn of events.

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Speaker 4: Guy who decided to try to make a living talking

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Speaker 4: about sports exact, actually excited to watch games. I know

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Speaker 4: that that is seemingly rare across society these days, more

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Speaker 4: and more increasingly so. But yeah, I was locked in.

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Speaker 4: I was interested the NBA playoffs. They're fun, that's it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm more like you, I will admit, and I've

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Speaker 1: said this several times in the show. It is strange, Martin.

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Speaker 1: In my however, many years living, you know how it goes.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, this series is crazy. I can't believe he

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Speaker 1: took that shot. Why would they do this? Oh, they

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Speaker 1: got to get swept. I didn't get any kind of

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Speaker 1: text like that with this series. There is the strangest

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Speaker 1: thing is normally the polar opposite, right, this guys that

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Speaker 1: I can't believe y'all think he's nice.

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Speaker 3: He's not nice, he's you get all that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's just because they're a

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Speaker 3: social group of fun guys, nice guys hard to hate

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Speaker 3: on no real like.

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Speaker 1: Eat both teams, Like who's the guy you hate? Like

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Speaker 1: for instance, Celtics Lakers, you might have hated KG or

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Speaker 1: Paul Paul Pierce is weak. I can't believe man Kobe

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Speaker 1: over there's something in there. This one was like, even

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Speaker 1: if you're going for the Pacers, you to hate the Thunder.

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Speaker 1: If you were going for the Thunder, you almost like

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Speaker 1: the Celtics series. It wasn't a lot of a lot

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Speaker 3: We're getting into a dangerous territory already.

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Speaker 4: I want to start just by staying congratulations through Yoklahoma

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Speaker 4: City Thunder for winning the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Fun. Yes, that's a big thing.

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Speaker 4: Shake Gildis, Alexander just chopped topped off one of the

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Speaker 4: most statistically historic years in terms of the hardware taking

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Speaker 4: and points scored and sold and so forth, that we'll

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Speaker 4: see an NBA history Ottao, I feel like we're seeing

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Speaker 4: new NBA history made every shiven a week day, just

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Speaker 4: about right. If you don't like the weather, you know,

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Speaker 4: if you don't like the record, the same, same kind

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Speaker 4: of deal. But uh, but no, and okay, see how

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Speaker 4: they're set up for the future.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that. I'm sure down the line.

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Speaker 4: In terms of this series today, you know, congratulations to them.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure everybody in Oklahoma City is very excited and

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Speaker 4: very happy. And the fans of them across the nation

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Speaker 4: if they you know, if they exist.

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Speaker 3: But also the.

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Speaker 4: Fans of them are in Canada. Well in Canada, they

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Speaker 4: got a lot of them. They didn't followed SGA and

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Speaker 4: lou Dorton so on.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: The reason why you didn't get a lot of those

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Speaker 3: Boring, absolutely in a good way. There's no good way

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Speaker 3: to be boring. To me.

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Speaker 1: Well, what I mean is, if I'm the owner, I'm

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Speaker 1: X getting that four in the morning, call yo, well

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Speaker 1: who's on the TV right now? SGA and j Doub

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Speaker 1: going at I can't stand you, man, You you don't

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Speaker 1: pass the ball like. They're boring in the sense of

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Speaker 1: They're boring in a sense of consistency. They show up,

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Speaker 3: You get through you have forty tonight. Well instead of

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Speaker 3: doing the press conference as well. So that's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And boring in a good way, and that they're the model.

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Speaker 1: Of consistency, sportsmanship, team work, and you're just like, well

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Speaker 1: that's great, but sometimes you want some juice behind that

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Speaker 4: So I mean, it's the that's the thing. I think

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Speaker 4: all the things that you just said about them are

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Speaker 4: also true of just about every team that wins a

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Speaker 3: They like, play really hard, they'll work together.

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Speaker 4: Just think think about the teams in the East, like

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Speaker 4: right now, the Indiana Pacers is true for them.

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Speaker 1: That's what made these two teams almost identical. But we

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Speaker 1: get different teams, but you get some too. If it

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Speaker 1: was the Knicks, then I don't know what's up with Cat?

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Speaker 1: Why Cat ain't playing in a minute? Why is he

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Speaker 1: little something in there, Jalen Bronson. He's hogging too much?

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Speaker 3: Are they?

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Speaker 1: You could have some stuff in there. This team with

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Speaker 1: the kumbaya on that Kumbaya was one hundred, which again,

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Speaker 1: if I'm the owner, that's a great thing.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying again everyone in Oklahoma City should

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Speaker 3: This is not a knock to them.

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Speaker 4: I was talking about me as a consumer of the

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Speaker 4: Finals because generally the way this was pitted, this is

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Speaker 4: David and Goliath. Right, This was the biggest potential favorite

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Speaker 4: and NBA Finals history. We haven't seen this since twenty

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Speaker 4: eleven or oh two thousand and one, right, and the

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Speaker 4: two series that we remember vividly because of the way

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Speaker 4: either David had his moment in Game one like Alan

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Speaker 4: Iverson did to step over Toronto Loo, which then the

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Speaker 4: the rest of the years was so nondescript, and that

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Speaker 4: is the only thing, Like, no one forgets that the

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Speaker 3: There's just no highlights from me. You can't name one thing.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what? I'm getting a hold in his

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Speaker 4: I mean, but no one did. I'm not saying nobody.

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Speaker 4: But you're not equating that. And the reason why you

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Speaker 4: equate that is because that was Allen Iverson's seminal moment

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Speaker 4: at the biggest stage of his career, right, that was

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Speaker 4: his primary moment. But then the twenty eleven team you

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Speaker 4: were are finals. You remember that because the the king fell, right,

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Speaker 4: mean spawned. Honestly, fifteen years of takes from that one

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Speaker 3: Here the goliath is boring.

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Speaker 4: That's the problem, like Lebron, that that team Miami, Like

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Speaker 4: moment that you remember from this finals is Tyres Haliburton

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Speaker 4: hitting that shot in Game one, But you were invested

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Speaker 4: in what Kobe and Shaq were doing. When I watch

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Speaker 4: Shake Gildess Alexander and Chad Holmgren and Jalen Williams, they

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Speaker 4: are spursy and in a way that I cannot say

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Speaker 4: is complimentary. It is just like it is a byproduct

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Speaker 4: being stoic in personality, And so I get that.

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Speaker 3: You know what that also was?

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Speaker 4: It was boring then too, And they won five championships

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Speaker 4: it unless you're old at the barbershop and you say,

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Speaker 4: and all, so, Tim Duncan really had it like that,

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Speaker 3: Tim Duncan had it like that. He had.

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Speaker 4: But those are not the teams that we look back

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Speaker 4: fondly as the teams that we remember as the most

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Speaker 3: Which is why I said rob g is my witness.

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Speaker 3: Can I get a witness? Robger? You know this? I

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Speaker 3: said this prior to the finals.

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Speaker 1: I said that the person who will remember the most

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Speaker 1: throughout this postseason win loser draw was going to be

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Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton, And I said he was going to be

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Speaker 1: the most memorable person from this playoffs because of a

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Speaker 1: it only added to why I believe I'm right. Tyrese

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Speaker 1: Haliburton came into this playoffs run as the most overrated player, right,

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Speaker 1: That's what his peers picked him as. And again, by

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Speaker 1: part of that was because they started off slow and

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Speaker 3: So then we get into postseason, he's mister overrated. What

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Speaker 1: He knocks off the Bucks. He knocks them off a

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Speaker 1: couple of game winners. Nice plays, good games. Bam, Pops

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Speaker 1: close out that series. So now Halliburton have to get

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Speaker 1: on the podium. Your dad was tripping a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Dad was overreacting, you know. So now he's again, He's

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Speaker 1: He just knocked out Jannis and them. Oh, and he's

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Speaker 1: you know, got the issues. Who pops Pops is cool?

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Speaker 1: Kick Pops out, man, Let Pops live. We're debating it.

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Speaker 1: We're having conversations even on this show. Then he goes

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Speaker 1: Finally we did it without Lebron and nope, you got Halliburton.

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Speaker 1: They come back multiple times down fifteen. He has another

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Speaker 1: couple of clutch games, hitting big shots were like, man,

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Speaker 1: this dude, how can we overrated? He might be underrated?

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Speaker 1: Then they go up against the Knicks. We already know

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Speaker 1: what happened, big comeback, fourteen, down fourteen, boom and he

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Speaker 1: hits the shot, does the choke again.

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Speaker 3: Halliburton is the star of this.

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Speaker 1: Now we get into the finals, Martin, and he hits

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Speaker 1: We're still talking about him. We care he didn't show up,

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Speaker 1: he only had. He was zero for four in game five.

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Speaker 1: We have all these conversations, and finally it was a

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Speaker 1: Shakespearean ending to his season. Should he play? Shouldn't he plays?

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Speaker 1: Game six plays well, they win, They get into seven.

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Speaker 1: He starts off hot. You saw it three or four three,

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Speaker 3: Five years ten year twin. Remember that Halliburton run BRU

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Speaker 3: He's still moving well.

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Speaker 1: Somebody who clearly changed the case for a lot of

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Speaker 3: In fact, he went and won a championship for that.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing? What is an MVP. Here's what

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Speaker 6: It's changes. It's like, okay, it's always it the is

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Speaker 3: Of their mind Martin, that they can go, well, let's

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Speaker 1: It leads for the conversation, It leads for the sports

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Speaker 1: debates and the barbersh on radio and on TV.

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Speaker 3: No is it Yokis? No? Is it Shaye?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: Is it Lebron?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Is it Kobe? Is it?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Is it? Uh? Uh? This person of this person? Is

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Speaker 3: it Payton?

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Speaker 1: Or is it you know, ladanele and Thomason? And I

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Speaker 1: think it leads to that because of the vagueness of it.

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Speaker 1: I think we ultimately want it, We just don't know

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Speaker 1: that we want it. Otherwise I think people will be bored.

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Speaker 1: Handed it to Michael Jordan for a decade, handed it

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Speaker 1: to Lebron handed, and Peyton Manning handed. Whatever the sport

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Speaker 1: is handing it to that guy for five to six

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Speaker 1: year period, and I think subconsciously we like that. We

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Speaker 1: like the debate, the fight. No, I mean, I like,

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Speaker 1: is it about the best player on the best team. No,

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Speaker 1: it's guy James Harden is doing stuff we've never seen,

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Speaker 1: thirty five games and leading the league in assists and points.

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Speaker 1: And I think we enjoy that more than we actually

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Speaker 1: know that we do, because I don't think our human

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Speaker 1: nature wants to just give it to And this is

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Speaker 1: why I sat here for what two months, give or take,

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Speaker 1: yelling at Rob Lamar Jackson is not gonna win the MVP.

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Speaker 1: Look at his numbers. I said, I know you're right.

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Speaker 1: Rob g is my witness, and so of the listeners.

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Speaker 1: I said, people are tired of giving it to him. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the numbers are great, Yes they're better than the last season.

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Speaker 1: Guess what they're gonna say, it's Chush Allen's time. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's the first note when they are the All Pro

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Speaker 1: comes out only one time in hard forred years. Is

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Speaker 1: All Pro get it wrong? I said, well this could

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Speaker 1: be in a union. They can happen again and Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen wins it. My point was human nature gets fatigued

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Speaker 1: of things. It's you can't, it's you have to be

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Speaker 1: so self aware to not do that. And you know

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Speaker 1: it is argument always like to be well, Barry Bonds

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Speaker 1: won it all those times, and ROS said yes.

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Speaker 3: Because they have two leagues. If they had one, I

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Speaker 3: guarantee you Barry Bonds would not have won it over

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Speaker 3: and over.

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Speaker 1: It's easy, all right, Well he's the best off area.

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Speaker 1: Somebody mix it up. On the other side. If there

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Speaker 1: was just one MLB MVP, Barry Bonds would not have

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Speaker 1: won it. I think it was, what five times in

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Speaker 1: a row, whatever it was, because they would have gotten

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Speaker 1: bored with somebody else. Well, all he's doing is hitting

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Speaker 1: home run. They would have found some human nature reason

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Speaker 1: to do that. So I think we don't want it

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Speaker 1: to be that simplistic. So therefore we have different options.

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Speaker 1: We have different people because sometimes in sports there's somebody

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Speaker 1: who's just that good for that period where we'd have

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Speaker 1: to just keep handing it to.

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Speaker 3: Him or her every year.

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Speaker 4: Well, speaking of handing it out, Dallas Mavericks nine time

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Speaker 4: All Star Kyrie Irving declined his forty three million dollar

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Speaker 4: player option and is signing a three year, one hundred

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Speaker 4: and nineteen million dollar contract with the Dallas Mavericks with

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Speaker 4: a player option. At twenty twenty seven, Kyrie lerving congratulations

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Speaker 4: on a torn acl in your thirties with a player

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Speaker 4: option to go ahead and get well. He had forty

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Speaker 4: three coming, So he's a quick math by me bag

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Speaker 4: eighty more over the next two years, and you get

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Speaker 4: to choose whether or not you want that forty in

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Speaker 4: year three.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm about to start wearing long fur hearings. Ear

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Speaker 3: he wears is salute to his agent his mother.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

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Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Nico Harrison, who's running the basketball operations over there, had

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Speaker 1: this to say about Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 7: I think it's two things. I think it's win now.

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Speaker 7: It's also win in the future. And we don't know

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Speaker 7: when eventually it's going to be Cooper's team. We don't

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Speaker 7: know when that when that transition will happen. So I

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Speaker 7: think it's win now and then set yourself up to

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Speaker 7: win in the future as well.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: You mister fan of the MAVs mass fan. He's talking

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Speaker 1: about you could win now when in the future, win tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: win ten, just a lot of winning in the coming

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Speaker 1: hold up, is what I have to say to all

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Speaker 1: of that. Oh here we go now, all right on paper? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I like what I see. Okay, you talked about it,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irvan still playing at a high level.

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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis playing at a really high level as well.

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Speaker 1: You got Lively, you got Gaffert, you got you got

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Speaker 1: other Clay. You gotta watch the piece of PJ. Washington.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I just PJ. Washington. I mentioned it

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Speaker 1: the other day. Every four years we get a guy

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Speaker 1: whoever becomes man, if we could just get a h

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Speaker 1: it was Rudy Gay for years. Man, we were Rudy

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Speaker 1: Gay away. It was Tobias Harris. To me, PJ. Washington's

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Speaker 1: become that new guy. You're like, Man, if we could

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Speaker 1: just get like a like a PJ. Washington for those

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Speaker 1: teams that are right there, you know, just we need

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Speaker 1: another guy who get that, like the Knicks forensic for instance.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Man, if we just had like a PJ. Washington,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna be that new thing guy for me.

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Speaker 1: But with that being said, man, Carrie, listen, I liked

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Speaker 1: what I see on paper, but this was my issue

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Speaker 1: with the initial trade of Luca. It wasn't just that

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Speaker 1: you traded Luca, although that was hard to get past, man,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. It was that you traded him and your

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Speaker 1: whole point was, I don't know, it could be a

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Speaker 1: catastrophic injury coming he didn't take care of his body.

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Speaker 1: But so you got a guy who's six years older

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Speaker 1: in Ad, who is proving to be injured a lot

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Speaker 1: in his career, and then you paired him with and

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Speaker 1: off injured Kyrie. So that was what you didn't pair

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Speaker 1: him with Michael Bridges, iron man, who hasn't missed a

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Speaker 1: game in his NBA career. You paired him with injured Kyrie,

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Speaker 1: and then what happened Game one with Ad and it

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Speaker 1: was so exciting too, but he was injured.

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Speaker 3: But he gets injured.

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Speaker 1: So this is where I'm apprehensive, is that you gotta

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Speaker 1: wait all the way to what you can say, optimistically

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Speaker 1: March with Kyrie coming back April.

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Speaker 3: I think could be back before that, but okay, but

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Speaker 3: let's say it everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I'll even grant you that February he goes to a

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Speaker 1: voodoo doctor and they put something on his knee. He's

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Speaker 1: back February, but he gotta he has to work back

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Speaker 1: in his shape. Okay, roll all that time, you're banking

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Speaker 1: on Anthony Davis not being injured so that your team

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Speaker 1: is in a good position, you know, and the standings.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna be the case. So

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Speaker 1: now I got an old Clayton Thompson who's off injured.

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Speaker 1: Now Kyrie a d with a rookie, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: on paper, I get it, but that's asking for a

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Speaker 1: lot for all those guys to hold up and hold

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Speaker 1: up at the same time. Okay, he's back, Wait, hold on,

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Speaker 1: now you get back. All right, now, we got to

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Speaker 1: be best already to roll come April and May. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know if they're going to be built for that.

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Speaker 1: I like it on paper, but I'm skeptical of the

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Speaker 1: injury report. Yeah, come the late spring. Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 1: every team. No, No, Listen.

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Speaker 8: What you're saying though, is if something happens, and yes,

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Speaker 8: we've seen it happen, so it's not like it can't happen.

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Speaker 8: But that's every team. You have to have luck, you

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Speaker 8: have to have health, throughout the season. And so if

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Speaker 8: you don't have those things, nobody's a contender.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 8: So all we have right now is that hypothetical of

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Speaker 8: what we see on paper, right like man man man, like,

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Speaker 8: all these things add up in the stack up right.

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Speaker 8: Boston coming into this year, we thought they were a

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Speaker 8: prohibited favorite, right like they are. They were injuries derailed them.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't a team that beat them, it was injuries.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 8: So that's always the case when you look at the

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Speaker 8: same and you talk about Nico saying this is a

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Speaker 8: win now, this is a win in the future as well.

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Speaker 8: This window with this group is gonna be short. So Cooper,

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Speaker 8: if he gets all that he needs to get done

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Speaker 8: in these couple of these first to two, I would

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Speaker 8: say two years with this unit that they have and

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Speaker 8: it doesn't work out the way hypothetic hypothetically it could

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Speaker 8: or couldn't. They still have a core with Cooper, Flag,

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Speaker 8: d Live Gafford, PJ. Washington or will attract other people.

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Speaker 8: And don't forget they're also right now going after another

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Speaker 8: point guard that can be a stop gap until Kyrie

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Speaker 8: gets back. That's a starter that should be a start

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Speaker 8: in his lead. That type of that type of person.

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Speaker 8: So this same is still good. Now I win a championship,

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Speaker 8: that's just that's far fetch. We don't know what that

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Speaker 8: looks like until we see all of them together. But

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Speaker 8: right now I'm loving it. Man, I'm not mad at it.

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Speaker 3: I like it. On paper.

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Speaker 1: It is again hypothetical. We'll have to wait and see. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know about the win now. I'm not

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Speaker 1: as high on the win. Now, there's some other teams

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Speaker 1: that I can feel like I've had, like how many?

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Speaker 1: By the way, rob g was that Eddie House who

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Speaker 1: had the Mavericks going to the Western Conference final yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Yes, there you go, I said, excuse me, Eddie.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and rashand Phillis, by the way, or both of

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Speaker 8: them both both did dang.

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Speaker 3: I know Eddie Eddie fools stories that he think they

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Speaker 3: could make a run. Rashad said the.

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Speaker 1: Right because I said Houston and he about laughed me off. No, no,

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Speaker 1: Houston can make him round. He laughed laughed off because

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Speaker 1: he said, you don't think Kevin Durant is the piece,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, it's not that he is not.

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Speaker 3: He has to be their savior, dude.

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Speaker 1: They got am and Thompson gonna be leaps and bounds

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Speaker 1: better sengoon down low, Fred Van Vls.

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Speaker 8: If you missed this guy, we're gonna we're gonna have

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Speaker 8: a problem. Keep going. Yeah, Jabari Smith Jacks's my guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: him paired with Kevin Durant and learning the tricks of

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Speaker 8: the trade.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm excited to see him.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I was too too, Yoda Rashan Phillis was

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Speaker 1: laughing at all. I'm like, I thought Kevin Durant fit

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Speaker 1: perfectly over there, and he soon Yeah. So, but again,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Flagg there now is in the wrong pick. And

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Speaker 1: also I like to that he doesn't he's not just

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Speaker 1: a man. All I can do is shoot because he

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Speaker 1: can fit right in, and they can say, all right,

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Speaker 1: eight is going to be down low.

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Speaker 3: He's going to do his things, And that actually is

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Speaker 3: kind of scary.

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Speaker 1: If Anthony Davis is engaged, healthy and active defensively, which

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Speaker 1: he usually is, yes, and then you pair him with

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Speaker 1: Cooper who gets to roam and kind of roll and

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Speaker 1: be a secondary defender. Guy gets by somebody, He's coming

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Speaker 1: for the block, passing lanes with that athleticism. Speak man,

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Speaker 1: I like that. I will I will admit that is

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Speaker 1: kind of scary. You mentioned with Lively, and that's don't

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Speaker 1: go down there trying to score. I'm telling you that

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Speaker 1: front line. I'll give you that frontline defensively is kind

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Speaker 1: of scary. But I like that he night in the

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Speaker 1: night out and you know what reminds me of and

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Speaker 1: the only reason I didn't bring him up because he

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Speaker 1: wasn't a number one pick when you brought Tim Duncan.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of Kawhi. I think they got him

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Speaker 1: at eleven and he gets to just come in, be

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Speaker 1: under Tony Parker, Ginobili, ducking all these guys, be one

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Speaker 1: of the guys. And then you like, oh, this guy's

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Speaker 1: really really good defensively Okay, he's athletic getting out on

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Speaker 1: the break, okay, oh mid range, kind of coming around

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, And you look up and you're like, man,

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Speaker 1: he's a finals MVP of that twenty fourteen team. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to that, shout out to Steve Balmer. I don't

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Speaker 1: know he did that. Steve Mamber did that. So I

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Speaker 1: like that he can just kind of fit in and float.

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Speaker 1: What do you need from tonight?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: You just need eight points twelve rebounds.

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Speaker 1: Three blocks got you okay, so now you needed me

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Speaker 1: to go and a lot of points in fast break,

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Speaker 1: you know who also liking it to offensively speaking, Pascal Siakama,

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Speaker 1: that you don't have to say call plays.

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Speaker 3: I can get it in transition. I can get it

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Speaker 3: just you know, put some putbacks.

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Speaker 1: I can get it in a little mid range here

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Speaker 1: there early on, Pascal, where we can make saying, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, he's kind of good. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: he does great, but he's just good. And I see

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Speaker 1: that where you at on and what he can actually

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Speaker 1: bring immediately.

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Speaker 8: And I was gonna I was gonna ask you that too,

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Speaker 8: But for me, it's he's gonna score fourteen just off effort.

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Speaker 8: So I would see him early on, I mean this

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Speaker 8: year probably in that sixteen to eighteen range, and I

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Speaker 8: don't I.

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Speaker 1: Might even go lower to your thirteen four. But because

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Speaker 1: I don't need like I might necessarily need it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I just say that, because he's gonna play hard

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Speaker 8: right Like again, I don't think they will run a

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Speaker 8: lot of plays. But the thing I do see with them,

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Speaker 8: I know they want to push the pace a little

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Speaker 8: bit more than they have in the past. Obviously with

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Speaker 8: Luca gone, they want to push it. I can see

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Speaker 8: him playing that point forward position right, and the ball

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Speaker 8: can be in his hands a lot more. He can

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Speaker 8: make a lot of plays too, And with that, with

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Speaker 8: all the lob threats that he has in Dallas, now

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Speaker 8: you're going to have to make decisions. And he's a

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Speaker 8: really good lob throws because we saw that with them

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Speaker 8: half his team round to everybody right tomorrow watching those guys.

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Speaker 8: But man, listen, I think he's going to average around

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Speaker 8: like in that sixteen to eighteen range, and I think

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Speaker 8: he's going to be obviously Rookie of the Year. But

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Speaker 8: I mean that's going to be competition there because all

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Speaker 8: the guys are in and worse situations