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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, July twenty four to twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we reported

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Speaker 1: the canup before it was cool. Me and your man

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Speaker 1: nam G Marcus Grant, joined by Michael F. Florio and

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Speaker 1: Lakwan Jones, and we had a little baseball talk before

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Speaker 1: the show. Right the Mets are hot right now. Florio's excited, LaQuan.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to convince you to jump on the Dodger

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Speaker 1: band wagons. You just have to prepare yourself for heartbreaking October.

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Speaker 1: Like it's all sweet. It's all sweet from March to September,

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Speaker 1: and in October things kind of come off the rail.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like most of my sports teams anyway.

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Speaker 3: So by then you're under the rams. So it's fine,

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Speaker 3: it's all good. You see how you just choose the

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Speaker 3: way to rams. You see how he did that. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to tell you, like, by then, like

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Speaker 3: you have something to distract you.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Dodgers are falling apart, and you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: now I can pay attention to the rams.

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Speaker 2: That's all I go, hopefully, and then we don't fall

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Speaker 2: apart this year but.

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Speaker 4: The one thing I'm happy about is that we've gotten

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Speaker 4: Q to not really root for the Celtics anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of cool. He's been very quiet about it.

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Speaker 4: This is an anti Celtics podcast.

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Speaker 3: There are other people building.

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Speaker 2: It's dirty. Bro. After that, I was like, I'm done.

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Speaker 1: There are other people in the building. We have not

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Speaker 1: convinced yet. Sam on selling you.

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Speaker 4: Sam comes in every day that one of our producers.

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Speaker 4: Just so you know, in head to toe Celtics Championships.

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Speaker 3: Dude is July. It's disgusting. We gotta, we gotta. I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I got to an HR about this. This

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Speaker 3: is not this is not right.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Anyway, we are still doing our division previews. We

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Speaker 1: are looking at the NFC North today. Definitely a lot

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Speaker 1: of intrigue there. Also talk about some late round rookies

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Speaker 1: and how we're approaching them in drafts. But first some

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Speaker 1: news and rumors. And Brandon Ayk has reported to training

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Speaker 1: camp despite wanting to be traded.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: This has been kind of an ongoing saga for the summer.

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Speaker 1: But Florio, he's in camp right now. The Niners say

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Speaker 1: they want to keep him. They're gonna work something out.

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Speaker 1: All his teammates seem like something's going to get worked out.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's been very supportive. It's all good vibes there, So

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Speaker 1: are we cool now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, us on this show have always been of the

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Speaker 4: mindset that Brandon Nyuk is not going anywhere, that he's

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Speaker 4: going to play for the forty nine ers this year,

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Speaker 4: that this is just about probably trying to squeeze as

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Speaker 4: much money as possible for this one year. But again,

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Speaker 4: he is set to make more money this season than

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Speaker 4: he has in his entire NFL career combined. So far,

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Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers have been so close to getting

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Speaker 4: to the super Bowl. He's been uber efficient in this system,

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Speaker 4: I mean, thirteen hundred yards last year and one hundred

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Speaker 4: and five targets, Like you're not gonna go anywhere else

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Speaker 4: and get more efficient than that. So hopefully you've been

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Speaker 4: buying the dip a little bit on Brandon Nyuk because

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Speaker 4: I believe he is a fantasy wide receiver one if

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Speaker 4: he is a member of the forty nine ers, and

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Speaker 4: I saw him start to fall a bit more into

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Speaker 4: wide receiver two range in the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of surprised by that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, have you have you backed

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Speaker 1: off with Lakwan drafting him anywhere?

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Speaker 3: I mean, have you seen the dep even anywhere? No?

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Speaker 2: I mean I kind of feel like he's been steady

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Speaker 2: and like even in those dynasty leagues that were in

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Speaker 2: there's no way you can acquire him without giving an

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Speaker 2: it's kind of cool waters. I mean, I feel like

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Speaker 2: this is a better move from him, you know than

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Speaker 2: sitting home and being on TikTok making cryptic.

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Speaker 3: Tweets and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Like, I think this is a move where he wants

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Speaker 2: to stay and maintain in football shape. So this is

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Speaker 1: He's folks, He's saying, this is a Rams fan who

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Speaker 1: wants to see Brandon. He wants he's praying on that

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Speaker 1: out of the downfall. This is not about This is

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Speaker 1: not a fantasy take. This is a Lakwan talking from

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Speaker 1: his heart. I respect it.

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Speaker 3: I do. I totally respect it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we've all sort of believe that this

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Speaker 1: It seems like we're trending that way. Obviously, we'll keep

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Speaker 1: But it seems like everything is gonna be okay with

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Speaker 1: with Brandon Ayuk and the forty nine ers right now.

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Speaker 1: But what it does mean is he might not be

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Speaker 1: facetiming as much with his old pile Jayden Daniels in

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Speaker 1: Washington now. According to head coach Dan Quinn on Jaden Daniels,

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Speaker 1: he says, quote, We'll know when he's ready to start,

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Speaker 1: so I'll start with you lakwan hype train or smoke

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Speaker 1: screen on this, Jaden Daniels isn't gonna start.

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Speaker 3: Maybe possibly thing.

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Speaker 2: This is a smoke screen. I think this is just

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Speaker 2: dan Quinn doubling down on like humbling the rookie, because

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Speaker 2: there's no way in any universe or any timeline you're

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Speaker 2: telling me Marcus Mariota has a shot at the starting job.

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Speaker 2: No way you can tell me that, because last time

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Speaker 2: we seen this dude he was bad, bad as a starter.

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Speaker 2: So this is dan Quinn just saying, no, what, don't

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Speaker 2: walk around the building like you're the guy yet, you know,

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Speaker 2: stay humble and keep your head in the books.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say Florio fors sake of argument that for

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Speaker 1: some reason, Marcus Mariota just dazzles right, that we hit

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Speaker 1: the timeline in the multiverse where Marcus Mariota looks like

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Speaker 1: the dude he was at the University of Oregon and

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Speaker 1: starts lighting it up. Would that change how you feel

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Speaker 1: about say Terry McLaurin or Johan Dotson or anybody else

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Speaker 4: No, because even in this scenario, that's not realistic. Like

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Speaker 4: Marcus Mariota when he played for the Atlanta Falcons two

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Speaker 4: years ago, was the worst thrower of the football in

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Speaker 4: the NFL. Like to me, Dan Quinn and the Washington

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Speaker 4: Commanders knew Jaden Daniels was ready to start the day

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Speaker 4: they traded Sam Halloway and signed Marcus Mariota to the backup. Like,

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Speaker 4: I think you want Mariota because you want in case

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Speaker 4: something happens to Jayden Daniels, you want a quarterback who

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Speaker 4: could step in and you could run a similar style offense.

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Speaker 4: But I think you know it got worse than And yeah,

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Speaker 4: I would be utterly shocked if Marcus mary unless Jaden

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Speaker 4: Daniels is hurt. If Marcus Mariota starts a single game

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Speaker 4: this year, because if you're the Commanders, you just hit

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Speaker 4: much seasoning as possible. And you know that this year

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Speaker 4: three of you can make it that far because head

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Speaker 4: So why not use this year to get this kid

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Speaker 4: as much seasoning as possible. And I like Terry McLaurin

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Speaker 4: So even if Marcus Mariota started to look like his

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Speaker 4: old self, if he starts on downgrading the past pitchers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, And I think part of what you said

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Speaker 1: is the part that sticks with me the most. One

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Speaker 1: you've got a new head coach. You know, you've got

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Speaker 1: a relatively new ownership group there. I think there's there

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Speaker 1: is the opportunity to sort of build, especially because you

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Speaker 1: know you're not expected to compete for a division title, right,

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Speaker 1: this is still the Eagles division right now.

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Speaker 3: To lose the Cowboys are gonna be in contention there.

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Speaker 1: You've got a little bit of a window to sort

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Speaker 1: like one of those training camp like he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: all right, man, sure get it. Speaking of young quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in competition with veterans in New England, girod Mao says

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett. It's clearly the Patriots most pro ready quarterback

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Speaker 1: entering training camp. This doesn't feel like hype train or

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Speaker 1: But it also Florio doesn't sound like they're closing the

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Speaker 1: you think we might see Drake May at quarterback?

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Speaker 4: Typically, I'm always like, I expect to see the rookie

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Speaker 4: rookie quarterbacks tend to take over pretty quickly unless they're

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Speaker 4: like in a Michael Pennock's type of situation where they're

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Speaker 4: drafted or Jordan Love like, you're drafted for the long

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Speaker 4: is just underrated man. And it's something that we've discussed

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Speaker 4: never gets the respect he deserves. But you look at

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Speaker 4: the Patriots schedule, and I think we're seeing Jacoby Brissett

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Speaker 4: get the Jets, the forty nine ers, and then the Dolphins,

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Speaker 4: So maybe at the earliest that Dolphins game, but then

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Speaker 4: continue to see Jacoby Brissett. If they're zero to four,

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Speaker 4: then at that point you might be like, what else

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Speaker 4: out there. So I think because of their early season schedule,

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Speaker 4: Brissette gets at least four games and the Patriots' success

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Speaker 4: with Brissett will determine when they make that move. But

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Speaker 4: it is funny that we've come full circle with Jacoby Brissett,

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Speaker 4: like he's back to where he started.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, time is a flat circle the

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Speaker 3: whole thing.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, maybe they bring him in after

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Speaker 1: the buye, but they don't have their buy till week fourteen.

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Speaker 3: I don't think yeah and czy no, yeah, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna wait he's still in at

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Speaker 1: that right exactly. Yeah, if Jacoby Brissett is still playing

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Speaker 1: by week fourteen, you're just riding it out with him

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Speaker 1: at that point.

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Speaker 3: If you feel that confident. Maybe week nine.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it's right before election day, so maybe they elected

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Speaker 1: Drake may as their new starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Uh for a game.

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Speaker 4: Again, that's all we're gonna be talking about that week

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Speaker 4: is Patriots quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, yes, yes, that whole week in late octoberly November,

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Speaker 1: the whole world is going to be focused on the

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Speaker 1: quarterback situation in Foxborough, Massachusetts. But because it looks like

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Brisset is probably gonna be the starter at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the year of the one does it change

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Speaker 1: how you feel about any Patriots wide receivers, provided you

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Speaker 1: cared about Patriots wide receivers to begin with.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I feel good about you know, Damario Douglas. I

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Speaker 2: feel good about Kendrick Bourne. You know, with Jacoby Prissetta.

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Speaker 2: At the start, I mean, you're looking at what the

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Speaker 2: head coach, you got a new OC, a new quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have become more aggressive with it. I know

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Speaker 2: I love Luke McCaffrey. He's basically going undrafted, and I

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Speaker 3: I definitely like Luke McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Podcast. All right, we are looking at the

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Speaker 3: As we continue our division previews.

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Speaker 1: As always, we do these in alphabetical order, so we

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Speaker 1: Justin fields with the QB eighteen two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 4: one wide receiver off the board, and Jaysen was the

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00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 4: third wide receiver all year. He played in three wide

435
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,880
Speaker 4: receiver sets and stuff like that. Now, Odunza can be

436
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,440
Speaker 4: better for fantasy than Jaysen was because he's a better

437
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,719
Speaker 4: field stretcher, he's better in the red zone, all of that.

438
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 4: But the Bears just brought in Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen

439
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 4: metric wise last year was his best year since twenty eighteen,

440
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 4: so he's still got it. He's still an elite separator,

441
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 4: an elite target earner. So I think the plan here

442
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 4: is Letto dunsa be the wide receiver three this year

443
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 4: and then year two and beyond its training wheels off,

444
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 4: you are our guy. But unless if it takes, if

445
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 4: an injury occurs, either of the top two Donsday has

446
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 4: top twenty upside, if not higher. But I just don't

447
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 4: think that the veterans are gonna go away unless an injury.

448
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: If if Romo Dunz has a rookie year, like Jackson

449
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 1: Smith and his rookie year, I think the fantasy community

450
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 1: just just turns on Shane Waldron.

451
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 2: Yes, he's a new author Smith.

452
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 3: He's gonna be the Smith.

453
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 1: Right, You're gonna take another really talented wide receiver and

454
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 1: just make him like an extension of the running game.

455
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 3: People are going to be heated.

456
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: Now in his defense somewhat, I mean Jaysn was a

457
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: little bit banged up at the start of the season,

458
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 1: wasn't completely healthy, so maybe that had something to do

459
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 1: with it. But you had a really, really talented guy

460
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 1: and you just made him a guy. It's just like

461
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 1: you not quite dump offs, but not really far from

462
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 1: that either. Hopefully it doesn't happen with o'doonzay. All right,

463
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: look on for you more or less a thousand scrimmage

464
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 1: yards of this season for DeAndre Swift in Chicago.

465
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: More, I think it's possible he can get there. I mean,

466
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 2: Shane Waldron coming from Seattle, I mean, you look at

467
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker, he was able to utilize him. But I

468
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: think a lot of fantasy managers will find frustration in

469
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 2: his usage week to week, which you kind of have

470
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 2: to just look at last year with Kenneth Walker and

471
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 2: Zach Charbonnay, they kind of split every area of the field,

472
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 2: and definitely in the red zone. We see DeAndre Swift,

473
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 2: you know, being a guy, we want to get all

474
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,199
Speaker 2: that red zone usage, and it just honestly doesn't happen.

475
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 2: You know where the places he's gone. You had Jalen

476
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: Hurts last year, the year before that, Jamal Williams, like

477
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 2: it goes on. So you're just gonna be very frustrated

478
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 2: at how he gets to this twelve hundred scrimmage yards.

479
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: It's just not going to be pretty week to week

480
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 2: being that they still have Roshawn Johnson and Klolle Herbert

481
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 2: still there as well. And we all know Shane Waldron,

482
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 2: if you got a helmet, you got a name, and

483
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 2: you got a number on and you're going to be

484
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 2: utilized on this offense.

485
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: That that's my concern, right is because there's still the

486
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: other two guys that are kind of hanging around there.

487
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: Swift is obviously the lead back for me.

488
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: I don't have any doubts about that, But you have

489
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: those other two guys there, You've got three really good

490
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: pass catchers, you know, you got to tie it in

491
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 1: there as well, and a quarterback who doesn't necessarily run

492
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: a ton right, Like, he's not gonna run. Caleb Williams

493
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: is not going to run the way Jalen Hurts might run.

494
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 1: He runs sort of the way Patrick Mahomes runs, in

495
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: the sense that he will run when he had he

496
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: can run, and he will do it when he has

497
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: to to sort of make a player and extend to play.

498
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: He's not just gonna pull the ball down and take off.

499
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: We're not going to confuse him for Jayden Daniels or

500
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 1: anything like that.

501
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 4: As someone who's watched him more closely than any of

502
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 4: us market like to when I've seen of him, he

503
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 4: doesn't seem like the type that's gonna look to jump

504
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 4: off to the running.

505
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: Back off not really, No, I mean his well, his thing,

506
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: at least at s C was he's going to look

507
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: to make the hero play. Yeah, yeah, some of some

508
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: of that is a defense that was giving up, you know,

509
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 1: forty five to fifty points a games, so like you,

510
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: you had to score every time you got the ball.

511
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: So maybe they can cure some of that out of him,

512
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: but no, for sure, when things broke down, he was

513
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: looking for the home run play and that's gonna impact

514
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: the running backs for sure.

515
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the under on Swift personally.

516
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: Ooh, I think I'm leaning toward the under as well.

517
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, he gets a thousand, at

518
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: least he has to. I mean, he's not catching a

519
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: ton of passes. He only ran for last year that

520
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: was it. I mean, you know he's got two of

521
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: his four years he was under a thousand, So you know,

522
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: it's fifty fifty.

523
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go under.

524
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: He's an RB two dressed as an RB one, so

525
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: I think we kind of know that he's a career

526
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: RB two ish in that range. I think expectations just

527
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: need to be had when you're gonna be drafting him

528
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: this year.

529
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: Ultimately, well, it's also why I just haven't really drafted

530
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: a lot of him because I don't know how this

531
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: thing is gonna go there, And just.

532
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: Watched the debacle last season when Deontay Foreman is getting touches.

533
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, shout out to my guy. He's the Goats.

534
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: I just like I don't think.

535
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: I don't think the touchdown upside is necessarily going to

536
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: be there for him either, So he's gonna have to

537
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 1: do you know what it feels like Florida. You can

538
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. This feels like Devin Singletary

539
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: in Buffalo a lot of ways. Yeah, a better version, Yeah, yeah, because.

540
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 4: The quarterback is gonna look to extend plays, keep his

541
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 4: eyes down field. There's there's a lot of good talented

542
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 4: pass catchers there, other running backs. Yeah, I'm I'm I

543
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 4: have yet to really draft DeAndre Swift and I'm a look,

544
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 4: I'm the one of the three of us that thinks

545
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 4: Caleb's going for over four thousand this year.

546
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah you are.

547
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 4: I don't think this offense is gonna be record setting,

548
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take the under on Russia.

549
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: All right? All right, Uh, last thing with the Bears.

550
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: Either one of you interested in a Bears tight end

551
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: cole Comet. I was surprised. I had completely blanked that

552
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: he was a top ten tight end. They add Gerald Everett,

553
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: who I'll say, Jerald Everett was that guy that I

554
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: would put in the sleeper's column. I think I put

555
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: him in there like six or seven times because it

556
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: was just like every week he's like, hey, this is

557
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: the matchup that it might work, you might get a

558
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: touchdown like that. That was sort of Gerald Everett. Anybody

559
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: interested in a Bears tight end this year?

560
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: No, I just can't.

561
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: I just can't.

562
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: Cole Comet is good. Though he's a great tight end,

563
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 2: I just think he needs to be moved somewhere. I

564
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 2: just feel like he needs to be you know, utilized

565
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: a little bit better and not have as many mops

566
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: to feed because this offense is already stacked, you know

567
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: at the wide receiver course and it's like, sorry, man,

568
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 2: you're the man out. Yeah.

569
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 4: He's sandwiched right now between friar Mouth and Hawkinson, and

570
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 4: I'd rather have both of those tight ends. In fact,

571
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 4: I'd rather pair those two together and just ride that out.

572
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 4: If I'm winning on tight end, then take.

573
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very much on the I'm back on the

574
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: friar Mouth Train. I'm kind of excited about what he

575
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: can be this year.

576
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 3: For sure.

577
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions their top scores last year. Jared Goff

578
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: was the QB seven just over three hundred points for him.

579
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs the RBAT ten two hundred and forty two

580
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: point one. I'm on Ross Saint Brown was your wide

581
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: receiver three, three hundred and thirty point nine fantasy points

582
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: in Sam Laporta as a rookie, the tight end one,

583
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: the tight end one, two hundred and thirty nine point

584
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: three fantasy points. In the offseason, they lost Teddy Bridgewater

585
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: to retirement and they lost Josh Reynold to free agency.

586
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: Draft was very defensive focus.

587
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: In fact, the offseason in general was more defensively focused

588
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: for the Lions. They did draft a running back, Sioni

589
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: Vaki out of the University of Utah in round four

590
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: first off the board. No shock here. It is a'mon

591
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: Ross Saint Brown right around pick number seven, So Floria

592
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: right now. Jamia Gibbs is the RB five as of

593
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: ADP numbers. Can he pay that off? Considering he was

594
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: RB ten last year and David Montgomery still walks the

595
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: earth he can.

596
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 4: I don't have him ranked as high as RB five,

597
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 4: and the risk is that David Montgomery just continues to

598
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 4: eat off of gibbs plate and hold him back. But

599
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 4: I think down the stretch last year we saw GiB

600
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 4: really start to take over and David Montgomery's never gonna

601
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 4: go away. But Gibbs had six games with over twenty

602
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 4: one Fantasy points. Only CMC had more. They split the

603
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: goal line work almost down the middle in the second

604
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 4: half of the last season, and surprising to many, Gibbs

605
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 4: was actually the more efficient goal line runner of the two.

606
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 4: He his floor is definitely a lot lower than RB five,

607
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 4: it's probably closer to RB ten like he was last year.

608
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: But the ceiling, he's a lot like Devon h Chen

609
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 4: in the sense of like his ceiling is RB one,

610
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 4: where he just kind of runs away from it, like

611
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 4: if something happens to David Montgomery and Gibbs is getting

612
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: all of the work we've seen. We saw glimpses of

613
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 4: that last year. This guy is one of the very best.

614
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 4: He'd be in the same group as Bruce Hall and

615
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 4: Bejon Robinson in my opinion. So the floor isn't as safe,

616
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 4: which is why I have him a little bit lower

617
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 4: than five in my rankings, but he easily can live

618
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: up to that.

619
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: But you're saying Devon ah Chan is exactly why I

620
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: asked this question, because you know, we're all sort of

621
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: worried about, Hey, why would I take Devon ah Chan

622
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 1: at this price when I could get Rahie Mostered at

623
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: a better price. And granted, yes, I think the ceiling

624
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: for Gibbs is higher than it is for Montgomery, for sure,

625
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: but the fact that Dave Montgomery has been a fairly

626
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: durable back in his career.

627
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's missed a couple of games here and there.

628
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: It just seems hard to bank on that and giving

629
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: that and giving Gibbs that opportunity, maybe they use him

630
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: a little more heavily becau Remember the first few weeks

631
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: of the season, we were all frustrated because it just

632
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: seemed like they weren't giving Jamiir Gibbs the ball, until

633
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they did and everything sort of exploded.

634
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: But it just does feel like where he's being drafted

635
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: is his absolute ceiling. When you have another guy who

636
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: can be just as productive and see just as much

637
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: work and get him several rounds later is all Lakwan.

638
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: Will Sam the Porter repeat as tight end one? I

639
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: know he can repeat as tight end one? Will he

640
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: repeat as tight end one?

641
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: I think he could. I think he could.

642
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: Will he? Like I need a yes or no?

643
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: Come on, you're gonna plant this flag on this guy?

644
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at it doesn't count, but I didn't count.

645
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: But like again, will he repeat his tight end one?

646
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: His situation is the same. There is no real target

647
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: competition outside of a minor in Saint Brown, So I

648
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: think the touchdown upside is going to be there for

649
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: him again.

650
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: So why not?

651
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: I mean he was the only tight end last year

652
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: that had double digit touchdowns, and I think Jared Golf

653
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: is going to utilize him the same way, targeting him downfield,

654
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: hitting him in the red zone. These are just signs

655
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: the same qualities that you know you're going into the

656
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: next season with. So I don't see why he can't.

657
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Travis is getting up there in the age.

658
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: I mean Trade McBride could easily fit into this conversation

659
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: as well. How good he is in the red zone

660
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 2: as well? And you got Kyler Murray back healthy. But

661
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: I think I could put the flag on Sam report

662
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: finishing as tight as tight end one.

663
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, Floria, you have moved Trey McBride

664
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Speaker 1: into your top spot. Does that mean you think Sam

665
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: laporter will not finish as tight as one?

666
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 4: I keep going back and forth. I think Laporta should

667
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 4: have the highest odds of finishing as the tight end one.

668
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 4: But if you're asking me him versus the field, I'm

669
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 4: gonna take the field. Because Trey McBride was, outside of touchdowns,

670
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 4: was on a more productive pace last year than Sam

671
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: Laporta was. Travis Kelcey, it's hilarious to me that he

672
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 4: is viewed as having a down year. He was the

673
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: tight end one in points per game, and let's not

674
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Speaker 4: forget that he got injured before the season started, missed

675
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 4: Week one, was kind of slowly ramped up. If Travis Kelcey,

676
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: instead of having five touchdowns, had his usual ten or

677
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 4: eleven touchdowns, Travis kelce runs away with the tight end

678
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: one spot again. So Laporta easily could do it again.

679
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 4: And that's why I think he should have the highest

680
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 4: odds of being viewed as the tight end one. But

681
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 4: we say it all the time. Touchdowns, man, they are fluky.

682
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 4: And if he finishes with six this year instead of ten,

683
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 4: there's no shot that he is, in my opinion, going

684
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 4: to be the tight end one. So I think he's

685
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: got the best chance. Or to me, it's those three

686
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: clearly the top three in my opinion. But if you're again,

687
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Speaker 4: if you're just ask him versus field, unless it's like

688
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey, I'm always almost always going to pick the field.

689
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

690
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: No, I don't think he finishes at the tight end one.

691
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: I still think he's the top three, certainly top five

692
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: tight end. I just think, you know, you know, last year,

693
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people didn't necessarily see him

694
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: coming to the level he did, and there's just there

695
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: are other options there, especially if we're talking about, you know, drafting.

696
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: Jamior Gibbs is a top five running back and we're expecting,

697
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm on ra continue to be a top you know,

698
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: certainly eight, top five potentially receiver. It just feels hard

699
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: for Sam Laporta to repeat. Plus there's one more mixed

700
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: thing into the mix.

701
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: Florio.

702
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: I know how much you love him more or less

703
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: than seven hundred and fifty receiving yards for Jamison Williams.

704
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: My heart wants to say more, and I'm very hopeful

705
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 4: for more. Until I see him consistently out on the field.

706
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, lets like, I think where he's going

707
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 4: in drafts upside shot worth taking, like especially in best

708
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 4: ball drafts. But yeah, I I it's one of those.

709
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 4: It's not even that I need to see him do

710
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 4: it first. I just need to see the Lions give

711
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: him a full allotment of snaps if he gets that

712
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 4: he's going over this number.

713
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: I mean, the hype has been there.

714
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell has been talking him up and how hard

715
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: he's working and how much he's bought in and how

716
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: they're excited about him. So that is step one training

717
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: camp too, Yeah, exactly, first normal training camp as a pro.

718
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: The next step is Jared Goff actually feeding him the.

719
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 4: Football or eating breakfast with him.

720
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: Eating breakfast with Jared Goff, that is the key to fantasy.

721
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: You gotta live with Jared Golf. Cooper Cup lived with

722
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: Jared go how it while but then but yeah, but

723
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: then he was a Cup was bringing breakfast to Matthew Stafford,

724
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: right they're having and then Puka was in that breakfast

725
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: because Pooka is not stupid, because he knows so.

726
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, someone got it till to two out will like

727
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 4: stop eating with the other receivers.

728
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: Down to the quarterback man, just go pick up an egg

729
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: McMuffin breakfast and just bring it with you or something.

730
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,280
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731
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Speaker 1: more teams to talk about in the NFC North, the

737
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: Packers and the Vikings. That's coming up after the break

738
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Speaker 1: on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Diving into the Green

739
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: Bay Packers from last season, Jordan Love was the top

740
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: scoring quarterback. In fact, he was the QB five overall

741
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty points for him. Aaron Jones, despite

742
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: kind of a rough start to the season dealing with

743
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: some injuries and the like RB thirty seven hundred and

744
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: thirty four point nine points. Jayden Reid was the Packers

745
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: number one fantasy receiver two hundred and seventeen point two.

746
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: That was good for wide receiver twenty five, Tucker Kraft

747
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: was their top scoring tide end and he was died

748
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: in twenty nine and Luke Musgrave just about three points

749
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: behind him at tight end thirty one. So those two

750
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: guys sort of mashed together and if you could form

751
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: them like Voltron, you'd had a pretty solid side in

752
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: there for you.

753
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: They're big loss in the off season.

754
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones flees and goes elsewhere in the division, but

755
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: they replaced him in free agency with Josh Jacobs and

756
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: then they drafted Marshaun Lloyd in the third round. Josh

757
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: Jacobs your first Packer off the board at thirty nine

758
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: point seven the average pick for him. So Lakwan rank

759
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: for me, if you will the Packers' top four wide.

760
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: Receivers Jayden Reid end listen.

761
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 3: Do everybody else?

762
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be Jayden Reid, Romeo Dobbs, Christian Watson,

763
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: and Dion Tavian Wicks. That's kind of my order. And

764
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 2: I feel like Watson to me, you kind of have

765
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: to put him in the top three because there's no

766
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: other option. But I feel like I can see Wicks

767
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 2: really stepping up this camp, and I could see Wicks

768
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: hitting the ground early week one, because Watson is still

769
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: recovering from the hamstring, you know, diagnostics and ripping it open,

770
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: getting the percentages down. I know we all saw that article,

771
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: but I'm not too sure if Watson is going to

772
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: be the guy out there to kind of execute with love,

773
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: because I've brung up plenty of times on this pod

774
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: about the passeray and the completion percentage. If you don't

775
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: have that chemistry with your quarterback, I'm almost likely moving

776
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: Christian Watson down the four and putting deon Tavian Wicks

777
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 2: at three.

778
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: So I'm down with with read It one. I'm down

779
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: with Wicks at four. I'm having a problem. I'm not

780
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: sure where to go with two and three. I mean, Florida,

781
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: where are you at with the Packers receivers?

782
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 4: I have Read one, I have Wis four, and I

783
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 4: have Watson two, Dobbs three. I'm tempted to put Wicks ahead,

784
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: like I I personally just don't see it with Romeo Dobbs.

785
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: Like I know other people tend to love him. To me,

786
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 4: he's just kind of a guy like doesn't expel in anything,

787
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: Like he's good in the red zone. I'll give him that.

788
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: Besides of the bills on the bills.

789
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, he's He's.

790
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 4: The least explosive of all of these guys, and to me,

791
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 4: that's what I personally love, like explosive, his big playability,

792
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 4: and I just doesn't really seem to have that. But

793
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 4: I do think it's worth pointing out that last year,

794
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: in two wide receiver sets, Jaden Reid was often the

795
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: odd man out, and I think we're just like, if

796
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: he plays in two wide receiver sets this year, the

797
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: sky is the limit for him. But I don't know,

798
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: because of how hard it is for all of us,

799
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 4: we don't none of us come to an agreement on

800
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: the four order and stuff. I don't really target any

801
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: of these guys.

802
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: I mean that is sort of how I you know,

803
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: we talked about it with the Texans, right, But at

804
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: least the Texans guys seem to have a higher floor,

805
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: certainly a higher ceiling than any of the Packers guys do.

806
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: This feels like the same situation where you sort of

807
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: pull a name out of a hat and that could

808
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: be the guy for the week.

809
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: I don't know that either of those guys has as

810
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: high a floor.

811
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: Or ceiling as what you see in Houston, which surey

812
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: gets me to the next question. Florio Ken Jordan Love

813
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: be a top five quarterback again. It was great to

814
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: sort of watch him blossom. There were so many questions

815
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: about it. He looked really, really solid, but also there's

816
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: something deep in the back of my brain that says

817
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: he takes a step back, and maybe not a huge one,

818
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: but that he's not exactly as productive and effective as

819
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: he was last year.

820
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you.

821
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: I have him. I believe he's like a QB ten

822
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 4: in my rankings, which might seem crazy after what he

823
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 4: did last season, but like he finished ahead of Patrick Mahomes,

824
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: I don't see that happening. Anthony Richardson was hurt. I

825
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: think Richardson will pass surpass him. He finished ahead of C. J. Stroud,

826
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 4: but I don't think that happens this year if Stroud

827
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 4: stays healthy and doesn't miss time with the receivers that

828
00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: he has so plus, like I continue think back. I

829
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 4: did the Monday Night Football Show in Week four and

830
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 4: Jordan Love against the Raiders was awful, like brutally bad,

831
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 4: to the point where I was like, he's not the guy.

832
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: But he had this huge second half and what always

833
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: fear is a little bit fearful for me is when

834
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 4: a player has a really hot streak like that, can

835
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 4: you now do that over seventeen games? And can you

836
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: do it over seventeen games while defenses now have that

837
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: footage of you doing it last season? So the fact

838
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 4: to me that this guy by the end of the

839
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 4: week is viewed as the highest paid quarterback and football

840
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: is kind of crazy to me. It's a side effect

841
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: of how the Packers operated with Aaron Rodgers is late

842
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 4: in his career and stuff. But yeah, to me, he's

843
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 4: much closer to a low QB one than top five.

844
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just feel like, you know, things

845
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: aren't necessarly going to align the same way, especially when

846
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: you have a group of wide receivers that don't offer

847
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: the same overall ceilings as another group. It just it

848
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: makes me a little bit nervous. Look, why can Josh

849
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: Shakos bounce back? Last year was not a great year

850
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: for him. Can he rebound or was what we saw

851
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: the start of a decline for him?

852
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: I'll say that situation last year was MESSI and he

853
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: did get banged up and he missed time, And I

854
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: feel like new money, new team, new opportunity. I feel

855
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: like there could be some type of bounce back, and

856
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 2: like the Raiders last season didn't even run the ball

857
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: much for him to actually get going. They were twenty

858
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 2: seventh in runching intens per game last year. And I think,

859
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: while you know he's healthy, now with this new opportunity,

860
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 2: the coach is telling him how they can be utilizing him,

861
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: and now he has a actual backup that can step

862
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: in and bring him on the field. I think we

863
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: see him more efficient Josh Jacobs, but his ADP is

864
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: still a little too high for me because I think

865
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: there is still some risks there. So I really feel

866
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: like myself personally, I've taken some of him in drafts,

867
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: and I think this summer in my redraft leagues and

868
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: I'll probably take a couple of him, but not a lot.

869
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: I'll just have to have, you know, a backup plan

870
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 2: if you're gonna pay for that ADP.

871
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I think Marshawn Lynch or Marshall Lloyd

872
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: rather gona like I'm gonna make that mistake multiple times

873
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: this season.

874
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 3: Just mark it down right now.

875
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lloyd is lurking, you know, and there is definitely

876
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: some talk that he's going to find his way onto

877
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: the field. How much, I don't know, but I think

878
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be enough to certainly frustrate anybody who has

879
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs and maybe enough to you know, give him

880
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: some standalone value.

881
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: I know I've drafted him in Best Ball.

882
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure I will take some shots on him in

883
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: UH in redraft his leagues. I remember I mentioned it

884
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: to Bucky Brooks and he basically gave me like a

885
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: verbal pat on.

886
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: The head, like, bless your heart. Yeah, good job, bless

887
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: your heart. He's like, you're a home ern. It's fine,

888
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: it's cute.

889
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 4: There were four running backs last year that average that

890
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: had less than five percent of their runs go for

891
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 4: ten or more yards.

892
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

893
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 4: Jacobs was the lowest of this bunch. The others were Eckler, Zeke,

894
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 4: and aj Dillon, who all have an ADP outside of

895
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 4: round ten. I'm out on Josh Jacobs.

896
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 2: Nikes, yikes, yikes.

897
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: Yeah again, he's another one that, like I, I think

898
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: there's something there.

899
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: But if I can get him below ADP, yeah, then

900
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: I'll feel better.

901
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 4: You're not getting a discount, Like if he was going

902
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: two rounds later, I'd be in but you're taking him

903
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 4: almost where you took him last year.

904
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, rather go wide receiver there.

905
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

906
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: Last team in the division, the Minnesota Vikings Kirk Cousins

907
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: their top score despite tearing an achilles midway through the season

908
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: QB twenty four hundred and fifty four point nine points.

909
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: Alexander Madison was their top scoring running back and he

910
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: was just RB thirty eight one hundred and thirty three

911
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: point two. Jordan Addison was the top scoring Vikings wide

912
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: receiver in fantasy. Of course, that's because Justin Jefferson was

913
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: hurt for a good chunk of the season two hundred

914
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 1: and twenty one point three points for him. Wide receiver

915
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: twenty three. T. J. Hawkinson finished the year's side in

916
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: four two hundred and nineteen points, but of course suffered.

917
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: They torn ACL in Week sixteen and so we await

918
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: his return. Big losses in the offseason, kirk Cousins going

919
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. Josh Dobbs is out, the pastronaut who kind

920
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: of thrilled us for a few weeks in there. They

921
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: did lose Maddison to the Raiders and kJ Osborne also gone.

922
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: They added in free agency sam Donold Aaron Jones from

923
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: the Packers and Robert Tunyan, who when he suits up

924
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: in week one will have now played for seventy five

925
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: percent of the NFC North Uh. And then the trader

926
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: they spent the tenth isn't a trade like But now

927
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: he's just he's just a mercenary.

928
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: I think.

929
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: I do want him at some point. He's got to

930
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: play for the Lions because he has to complete the circuit,

931
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 1: complete the stones Man. He's played, He's played for the Bears,

932
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: he's played for the Packers. Uh, he's got to finish

933
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: off the Infinity Glove, Infinity Gauntlet and just play for

934
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: the Lions too.

935
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

936
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy they picked with the tenth overall selection first

937
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,479
Speaker 1: off the board, Justin Jefferson five point three lakwan. Who

938
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: should we want starting at quarterback? Do we want Sam

939
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: Donald or would it be better if it's JJ McCarthy.

940
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: As much hype there was going into drafted round, JJ,

941
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: you kind of want him to go in there and

942
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: not get thrown into the sharks because you're not really going,

943
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 2: you know, in the deep end, because you have Justin Jefferson.

944
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: But would much rather see him go out there. We

945
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: kind of know how this story is gonna end with

946
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: Sam Donald, so I really would want them to kind

947
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: of build the chemistry together him and JJ and JJ ding.

948
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: I just thought about that JJ TOJJ, that's gonna be great.

949
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: But I feel like, you know, he's at very accurate quarterback.

950
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: He can make things and create things outside the pocket,

951
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: extend plays. I think you throw it a rookie in there.

952
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: But like I said, with Sam Donald, we kind of

953
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: already know how this story's gonna end.

954
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: Well see, But I'm sort of like that's why I

955
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: kind of want Sam Donald because it's like, we know

956
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: he's gonna be aggressive, he's gonna throw picks, but he's

957
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: also gonna be aggressive and just take some shots down

958
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: the field. All the hype about JJ McCarthy felt like

959
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: boiled down to he's a winner, he knows how to win.

960
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: He won games, and I'm like, Jenny, throw the ball

961
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: down the field, like what you know, like because they

962
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: didn't ask him to do that at Michigan, right, the

963
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: constraints of the offense didn't really let us see what

964
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy can be in game situations. I know what

965
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: Sam Donald is for better or worse. I know what

966
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: Sam donald is and I know he's gonna take some shots.

967
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: That's all I got.

968
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 4: We've heard this Sam Donalds hype every year.

969
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,479
Speaker 3: I'm not this is this is a Sam donald hype.

970
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah it's not from you, but all right, people are

971
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 4: hyping Sam Donalds.

972
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: Yeah no, this is like I you know, I sort

973
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: of thought, Look, he was in San Francisco. I'm like, look,

974
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: if somebody can get the most out of him, it's

975
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: probably Kyle Shanahan. I mean, fortunately he didn't have to

976
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: play a lot, so it's fine. But yeah, no, this

977
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: isn't about Sam donald being hype. This is about like, hey,

978
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: Sam's gonna like he's gonna take some shots and he's

979
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: gonna throw some picks. But then the second half he's

980
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: gonna do his best to bring you back, which means

981
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: more downfield throws. That's all I got. Florida more or

982
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: less than twelve hundred scrimmage yards.

983
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: For Aaron Jones uh less.

984
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 4: Look, I know he played well the final three games

985
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 4: of the season and then in the playoffs, but he's

986
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 4: still gonna be thirty years old. He's still on a

987
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 4: new offense. Which look, I call me a hippocrip because

988
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 4: I love Dereck Henry. But typically the rule of THEMB

989
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 4: is like running back to this age on a new

990
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 4: team do not lead to a bunch of success. Plus

991
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 4: last year was a career. I know he missed time,

992
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 4: but like career low in rushing yards, I just at

993
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 4: his age with the time that he's missed and going

994
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 4: on to a team now that is last year ran

995
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 4: the ball the third least in the NFL. I just

996
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't really target Aaron Jones. In fact,

997
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 4: I fade him and I'd rather get a receiver. There's

998
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: other running backs in his range I'd rather get. So

999
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 4: I just look, it flopped miserably with Alexander Madison on

1000
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: the steed last year. I think Koc is going to

1001
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: want to continue to throw at a high rate so

1002
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: he'll be better than Madison. But I don't think he gets.

1003
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 3: To that though.

1004
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: So I drafted Aaron Jones in the scott Fish Bowl,

1005
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: but in the ninth round that's very different, That's right, Yeah,

1006
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anybody really wanted him, but

1007
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: he just kept sitting there at the top of the

1008
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: list and finally came back to me the ninth round.

1009
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, well fine, I'll do that. I'll

1010
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: take him, I'll take him here.

1011
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: But I'm with you.

1012
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: I think it's less than twelve hundred yards. I think

1013
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: I think he gets over a thousand. But I don't

1014
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: think it's it's going to be great. I think this

1015
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: is a team that's gonna have to throw the ball

1016
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: a lot because I think they're gonna be sort of

1017
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: playing from behind. So I think that's gonna hurt Jones.

1018
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: And also, look, the Packers asked him to take a

1019
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: massive pay cut and eventually lost him in free agency.

1020
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: That should be as much of a warning sign as anything.

1021
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: They know something, they know something. They see him every

1022
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: single day. Florio kind of hinted at how he feels

1023
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: about this. I'll ask you, Lakwan, is TJ. Hawkinson worth

1024
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: a late round pick, especially if you can, if you

1025
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: can afford to wait on him.

1026
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, look, I think Hockinson put on a

1027
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: great season last year up until the injury, and you

1028
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: know what you're getting in the target share there. He's

1029
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 2: the number two that we can assume. Now we don't

1030
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: know the story how it's gonna end with Jordan and Edison,

1031
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: but I think that where he's at in price, you

1032
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: can take that shot. I really feel as though if

1033
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: he's healthy and the reports are great coming out of camp.

1034
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: I mean, if he doesn't start the season on PUB,

1035
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: then you know we're in good money at where you're

1036
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 2: able to get him at in ADP, and a lot

1037
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: of people are forgetting about him. A lot of people

1038
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: are keep him out of those conversations. He's in the

1039
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: situation where he's a good player. It doesn't look like,

1040
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: you know, he's declining in any type of signs. But

1041
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: I feel like if he has the target share, he

1042
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: has the volume, he has a reliable quarterback that can

1043
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: hit him in the middle of the field. I think

1044
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 2: you're still getting TJ. Hockinson of before the injury last year.

1045
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: I do think it depends on whether or not he

1046
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: makes the pupp list, right, if there's a chance he

1047
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: could come back relatively soon. If he's not on the

1048
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: pup list they think he's gonna come back kind of soon,

1049
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: then I think that ADP shoots up.

1050
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 3: He's on the pup list, you know, then you got

1051
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: with the four.

1052
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm willing to be patient, to be honest, even if

1053
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 2: they slow walk him into this, you know, like you're

1054
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: returning from a serious injury late in the season, Like,

1055
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm okay with him, give me, you know, minimum points

1056
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: the first three to four weeks, and then back in

1057
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: the season where it's really gonna matter where, Like, Okay,

1058
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: I need this guy to show up in the playoffs

1059
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: for me. I'm making a playoff run. And you always

1060
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: want a tight end that's in a tight end friendly offense,

1061
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: that has his type of stature of talent on your

1062
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: team late in that season.

1063
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's a talent thing.

1064
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: I think it's just you know, everybody's just waiting to see, Yeah,

1065
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: the recovery.

1066
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 4: I'll take him my tight end show if I don't

1067
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 4: miss that on elite guys I want like Pits or Kinkaid,

1068
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 4: that's the sweet spot. But if I miss out on

1069
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 4: those guys, then I will take another tight end and

1070
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: then take Hockinson as my tight end too, because that

1071
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 4: gives me a shot of having the elite tight end

1072
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 4: production at the end of the year, like what Kwan

1073
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 4: was saying, And I don't have to pay that price,

1074
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 4: and then I could get someone like in Djoku or

1075
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 4: Goddard or Friar moved to get me by the first.

1076
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 3: Half of the season. Yeah. Uh.

1077
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: And if you have an IR spot and he's IR eligible,

1078
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: it's a no boom. It's a no brainer. Yeah, man,

1079
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: talk to the commissioner. I'll make sure you have an

1080
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Speaker 1: IR spot, maybe a couple IR spots.

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Speaker 2: Flipping his buy in or whatever it is, you know,

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Speaker 2: change the rules. You know, you gotta get dirty.

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Speaker 4: It's no frik thereby is week six. I believe I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if we see him return not playing

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Speaker 4: until week seven exactly.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm okay with that slow walk.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: If I can get another tight end.

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Speaker 1: And if you can, uh, if you have an R spot,

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Speaker 1: then then it's an absolute no brainer. Before we get

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Speaker 1: out of here.

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Speaker 3: A couple of things.

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Speaker 1: One, I know we talked about Kimani Vidal. I just

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Speaker 1: saw a tweet from him. Did you know that his

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Speaker 1: great uncle was Hank Aaron.

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Speaker 4: No, but that just makes him even the.

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Speaker 1: ADP is gonna shoot up now that this is out

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Speaker 1: there in the universe.

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Speaker 4: He's got goat blood in his vein.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, like literally, Hank Aaron is family for Kamani Vidal.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he put out a tweet. It's a in fact,

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Speaker 1: it's a shot of him with the.

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Speaker 2: Greatest baseball player ever in history.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, so no, that's Barry Bonds in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Hey, that's what the googles just said. I'm sorry, I'm

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Speaker 2: out of the loop.

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Speaker 4: I hate the Bonds because he, you know, used steroids.

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Speaker 3: Which I believe.

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Speaker 1: Actually today is actually Barry Bonds's birthday as well, so Universe,

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Speaker 1: happy birthday to Barry Lamar Bonds, who I graually admit

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Speaker 1: is baby the greatest baseball player.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm I rooted against Barry Bonds my whole life,

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Speaker 4: but you look at his stats and it'd be like

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Speaker 4: saying Tom Brady isn't the goat?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, Barry was amazing even before any

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Speaker 1: of the pharmaceuticals, and then he just got more amazing

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Speaker 1: after it. And now we're a point where don't think

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Speaker 1: anybody really cares that play is steroids, So it doesn't

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 3: That'll verty much do it for us.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow we have another episode of the cheat Sheet schedule

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Speaker 1: to have a special guest. Our friend James Co should

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Speaker 1: stop by and hang out, and we are watching Kung

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Speaker 1: Fu Hustle.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've started it yet tonight.

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Speaker 4: All right, all right, Sane, I started it yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I started it late, so I have to finish it today.

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Speaker 1: But Kung Fu Hustle is the movie on Florio's Film Festival,

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Speaker 1: and we'll also have some other foolishness in there. We'll

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Speaker 1: figure it out, but come join us, be part of

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Speaker 1: the chat. We're always glad to have your questions as well.

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Speaker 1: It is James coll As I mentioned. If you got

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Speaker 1: any sleeper questions, that is James's thing, so so bring

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Speaker 1: us your sleeper questions and we'll get code to answer

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Speaker 1: as many of them as.

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Speaker 3: We can in the meantime.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Football Podcast. Stay happy, safe and healthy, do good and

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Speaker 1: live well, and we'll talk to you tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Help