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Speaker 1: Am I gonna totally ruin myself? But my ration is this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, by the way, you are insane. That

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Speaker 2: That it's Lindsay. That is not That is not healthy.

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Speaker 2: That is not Oh I'm getting a new leg next

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Speaker 1: How my brain works.

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Speaker 3: So Hi, I'm Lindsay Vaughn, Olympic champion, philanthropists and entrepreneur.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody. Yeah that right. It is time for

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Speaker 2: another episode of Off the Beat. This is your host,

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Speaker 2: Brian Baumgartner. And guys, guys, we've peaked, truly, we have

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Speaker 2: reached the top of the mountain. It is all downhill

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Speaker 2: from here. Get it because my guest today is one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest skiers of all time, my friend and yours,

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Speaker 2: Lindsey Vaughn. She won a gold medal, she won two

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Speaker 2: so it only makes sense that she wanted to basically

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Speaker 2: she retired in twenty nineteen because she said her body

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Speaker 2: the first woman to ski the Strife earlier this year.

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Speaker 2: Lindsay is a trailblazer. I was so excited, blown away

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Speaker 2: in fact, to get to talk to her. I know

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Speaker 2: all the awesome things that she's been doing lately. So

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Speaker 2: strap in everybody here. She is Lindsay Vaughn.

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Speaker 4: Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeakna Bubble

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Speaker 4: and Squeaker. Cook get every moon lift over from the

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Ryan, Lindsay? How are you?

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Speaker 1: How good? Hurt you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? You know we've met before?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember us meeting before we're at the Emmy?

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Speaker 2: Oh god, well, we've probably met multiple times. That's always embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: Don't remember I met you? It was at an event,

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Speaker 2: a golf event in Monterey.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's when I got my hole in one. That

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Speaker 1: I know. I retired after that. That was. It was

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Speaker 2: You know, thanks so much for remembering me. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I guess you had the whole on one. I guess

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Speaker 2: Man, Well, yeah there was. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm great? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm good. I'm I'm surviving the summer. I

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Speaker 2: understand you've been busy doing some programming. We're going to

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Speaker 2: Your career is well one amaze and too incomprehensible for me.

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Speaker 2: I was a casual skier for a long time, and

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Speaker 2: I know. Well, now I'm just trying to I'm trying

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Speaker 2: Because you were teaching yourself. I don't know think that's

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Speaker 2: There you go. I trust you. Then, as far as

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Speaker 1: You know what that means?

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Please report back. Gravity Corps there at Ski

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Speaker 2: How did it help you in your car?

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Speaker 2: Well, and I don't know if you're going to be

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Speaker 1: my rehab, with all of my injuries from ninety nine

434
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Speaker 1: point nine percent of people, you say, okay, you tore

435
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: your ACL, it's going to be a nine month recovery, okay,

436
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: but not everyone recovers the same. I recover quickly, I

437
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, dedicate my time to getting back, and it

438
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: may take me six months. So I think, you know,

439
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: there's just things shouldn't be set in stone. Nothing should

440
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: ever be set in stone, and there's always going to

441
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: be people that need to be at a certain level

442
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: at a certain time in life. For example, I you know,

443
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: when I was training in Veil at such a young

444
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: age with older kids, I was actually allowed into the

445
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: Junior Olympics when I was eleven and twelve with kids

446
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: that are thirteen and fourteen, and eventually fourteen and fifteen,

447
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: and I was beating them and I needed that competition.

448
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: If if they hadn't have been the rules so that

449
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: I could, you know, go to that next age group, right,

450
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: I don't know where I would be, you know, but

451
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: I don't think that should be obviously the standard. I

452
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: think it's like bowling. You just put some guardrails on

453
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: and sometimes you can. You know, people are good enough

454
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: to where you can drop them. But I don't know.

455
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: I they like speed limits, you know, It's.

456
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: Just it's malleable if you're a good enough driver. That's

457
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: what I told the cop last week when I got

458
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: pulled over. Now, sir, I promise you I'm way better

459
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: driving good than anybody else. Yeah, you skied your first

460
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: World Cup at age sixteen. Now you're you're sixteen years old.

461
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Speaker 2: You've had this dream now seven eight years. My math

462
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Speaker 2: is weak. Are you feeling like this is a big deal,

463
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Speaker 2: like I'm making history? Or is it like let me

464
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: just go win this thing? Like how are you feeling

465
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Speaker 2: As a young sixteen year old, I.

466
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Speaker 1: Felt a lot of pressure. Okay, you know I was

467
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: the youngest. Yeah, I mean there was one other girl

468
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: on the team and she was almost a year older

469
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Speaker 1: than me, but you know, we were by far the youngest,

470
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: and obviously the Salt Lake Olympics were the next year,

471
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: and so my first season, it wasn't just you know,

472
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Speaker 1: let's do the World Cups and see how you do.

473
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Speaker 1: It's I have to qualify for the Olympics next year.

474
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Speaker 1: I had to really establish myself on the team, and

475
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: I struggled. You know, it was it was hard. I had.

476
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Speaker 1: I had to get my legs underneath me and find

477
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: my confidence within that new peer group. And once I

478
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: got it, you know, I really figured everything out. When

479
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: I was kind of eighteen nineteen, I started getting on

480
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: the on the podium and I really felt like I belonged.

481
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Speaker 1: But in the beginning, you know, I struggled to find

482
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Speaker 1: my place and again, like being one of the youngest

483
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: people on the tours can be alienating, and again I

484
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: wasn't cool. I was like, homeschooling doesn't help much with

485
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: social skills, just FYI. But I figured it out eventually,

486
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: So it just took me maybe a little bit longer.

487
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: You make that your first Olympics in two thousand and two,

488
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 2: What did that feel like? That's that's a different thing, right,

489
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: it was amazing.

490
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, holy moly. Yeah, and ironically, like I'm on

491
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: the Olympic bid committee trying to get felt like back

492
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: to Olympics in twenty thirty four, which would be amazing.

493
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: But it was such a great gains. I mean it's hard.

494
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it's all downhill from there. You know,

495
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: a home Olympics to start off is just incredible. And

496
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: it was also an interesting time. You know, after nine

497
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: to eleven, you know, everyone was on edge. The world

498
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: was watching us, and we really needed to do well

499
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: as a team for our country because you know, we

500
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: needed that that morale. And I had the best results

501
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: of the entire women's team, and because you know, all

502
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: of the veterans who were supposed to get medals didn't,

503
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: it was somehow a disappointment, and so my performance was

504
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: looked at as a disappointment, even though I had the

505
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: best result of the entire team, And so that was

506
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: hard for me and I kind of I thought, okay,

507
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: this is it. I'd established myself and I hadn't, you know,

508
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: in their minds, I had a long ways to go,

509
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: and and kind of wrapping my head around that was

510
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: hard because you focus on something like anything in life,

511
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: you have this one goal and you focus on it

512
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: so hard and you work towards it, and then you

513
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: get there and you realize, oh no, this is just

514
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: the start, This isn't the end point. This is just

515
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: the beginning. And so you know, I had to figure

516
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: that out and find my way forward.

517
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: But I got there this stretch of dominance. I I mean, look,

518
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: I knew you were good. I didn't have your stats

519
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: like memorized or whatever. You don't, Brian, I mean, I

520
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: might now overall world champion in two thousand and eight,

521
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, two thy ten and then again

522
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: in twelve. Did you feel as though I can't lose?

523
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: Like did you have that feeling they talk about like

524
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan right like in the zone or whatever. Is

525
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: that how you felt on the mountain?

526
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

527
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 5: I did.

528
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean there was it was basically me against myself,

529
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I felt so confident and it was

530
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: so light, you know, there wasn't I didn't feel a pressure.

531
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: I felt such an ease and such a joy and

532
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: it was such an amazing time, especially from twenty ten

533
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: to twenty twelve was kind of really my prime. And

534
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: I lost the overall title by three points, which was

535
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: kind of there's some political bullshit that went along with it,

536
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: but that era was pretty incredible, and I, I don't

537
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: know I was when I watched Michael Jordan's documentary. I

538
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: think it really struck a chord because you know, eventually

539
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: you have to figure out ways to motivate yourself because

540
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, you keep winning and then I so it

541
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: was like, you know, some one person didn't say hi

542
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: to me, or you know, there's like I would find

543
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: things to focus on so that it would drive me

544
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: and so that we were I don't know that that

545
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: kind of storyline with Michael really hit a chord with

546
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: me as well.

547
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this you're talking about twenty eleven with the

548
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: three point it's so funny because I just talked about

549
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: you winning four out of five years, and your brain

550
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: immediately goes to the one year.

551
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah didn't. That's so fascinating. So I don't know if

552
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: you've noticed this, but I'm highly competitive.

553
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. See here's the thing. I think I'm highly competitive

554
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: until I talk to someone like you, and then I'm like,

555
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: all right, well, I mean there's highly competitive, and this

556
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: the media portrayed this is like you had a bitter rivalry.

557
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: Do you feel like that was all overplayed or again,

558
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: were you looking for motivation during that time?

559
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was it was hard. You know,

560
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: my best friend on the tour, who I spent every

561
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: Christmas with, we were one and two. I mean, between

562
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: the two of us, we run every single downhill for

563
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: like a three year span, and so to be best

564
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: friends with your number one competitor is a challenge, obviously,

565
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: And there was some fishy things that went on at

566
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: the end of the season where I lost by three

567
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: points to her. There was a couple of races that

568
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: were canceled that really shouldn't have been canceled, and and

569
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think that part of it is one

570
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: of the reasons why we had a hard time afterwards.

571
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, she really felt like she deserved it, and

572
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: I felt like these races shouldn't have been canceled, and

573
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: I didn't have a fair shake of getting the title.

574
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: But you know, at the same time that ski racing,

575
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: like I have to accept it and I don't hold

576
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: anything against her, obviously, that's again that's the sport. But

577
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: at the time I think it was hard kind of

578
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: a riff and you know, then she got married and

579
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: things separated a little bit more. But I don't know.

580
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: For women especially, it's just it's hard to be friends

581
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: with your number one competitor.

582
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: In addition to winning all those World Cups, you win

583
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: the downhill gold and the super g bronze at the

584
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: twenty ten Vancouver Olympics. Talk to me about the moment

585
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: that you win gold. There's the podium, there's the song,

586
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: the national anthem. Like, is this as overwhelming in the

587
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: moment for you as it would appear to be to me?

588
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: Or are you? Is it like these are just all

589
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: the years that I expect this to happen now?

590
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: No, I mean that I still get very emotional every

591
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: time I see that Olympic run. It was really the

592
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: culmination of all of the years of my hard work,

593
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: but also my families, you know, my family sacrifice moving

594
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: to Colorado, and I mean we were not well off.

595
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: We struggled a lot, and moving to Colorado was not,

596
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 1: you know, an easy move for us. So I just

597
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: felt so overwhelmed with emotion, happiness, but also a lot

598
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: of relief. You know, there's so much building up to

599
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: that point. My entire life had build up to that

600
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: one moment and maybe think about it. It's two minutes.

601
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: My Downhall run was two minutes long. You know. It's like,

602
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: how do you quantify your entire life's work in two minutes.

603
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: So I'm very thankful for that moment. I wish that

604
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: I could bottle it up and experience it, you know again,

605
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: because it happened so fast, and I was so overwhelmed

606
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: with emotion that I was trying the majority of that

607
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 1: day and I had to race the next day, so

608
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: I didn't even really get to enjoy it. I had

609
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: to try to focus again for the next day. But

610
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: it was such an incredible experience and I'm so thankful

611
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: for it. And you know, my mom passed away a

612
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: year ago, and when I watched the Olympic run, you

613
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: see me in the finish and then it pans immediately

614
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: to my mom and so that is just like for me,

615
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: it's so emotional and it's so amazing that I had

616
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: that experience with her and with my family.

617
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: That's incredible. I'm glad you had that too. Thanks in

618
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, you tear your acl so you can't compete.

619
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: It's so chea. How tough is this for you to

620
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: swallow at the time.

621
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: Oh it's brutal. I mean, you know, watching all of

622
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: my friends win medals and I'm sitting at home with

623
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, having just had surgery. You know, the Olympics

624
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: are once every four years, and I think for this

625
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: for the public, for spectators, it seems like it happens

626
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: very quickly because you have a Summer Olympics every two

627
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: years and then the Winter Olympics. But for us, it's

628
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: like there's so much that goes on in between, and

629
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: so much build up. And that was really, honestly, I'd

630
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: say even more my prime than when I went into

631
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: Vancouver because I had already won, I didn't have any pressure,

632
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: you know, I would have been in such a great position,

633
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, it was a brutal experience. I wish I

634
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: had been there, but you know, such as life. So

635
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: I just hunger down and focused on the next Olympics,

636
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: which we were in South Korea, which is my last Olympics.

637
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: And by that point I had been pretty ravaged with injuries,

638
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: so it was not like I was in my prime,

639
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: but I was thankful to come away with another medal.

640
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: So you take what you can get.

641
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, you miss out on those Olympics.

642
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: But the next few years, you match or your breaking

643
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: multiple records. Most Super G's won all time downhill victories,

644
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: World Cup. Are these are these wins and these records,

645
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: are they driving you to keep going and do more?

646
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? Definitely. I mean I'm I'm you know, I'm a competitor,

647
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: you know, and I was never afraid to say it.

648
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: You know, I I need that next goal, you know,

649
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: I want I wanted you know, I enjoy ski racing,

650
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: but I also need, you know, something to drive me.

651
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: And those records were something that drove me, especially when

652
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: I was injured, you know, I I wanted to go fast,

653
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to win, I wanted to break records, and

654
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: especially at the end, you know, trying to break sin

655
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: Mark's record was something that really really helped push me

656
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: because I was so close, but you know, ultimately it

657
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: wasn't meant to be. But but yeah, I just I

658
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: feel like there's no shame in saying I was driven

659
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: by records.

660
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. What's what's your proudest race of all the races.

661
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: Of all the wins, I don't know, I mean probably

662
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: the Olympics, you know, winning the goal. I think just

663
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: from an emotional perspective and looking at how much my

664
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: family sacrifice. But if I'm thinking about what was the

665
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: most difficult, I think it was coming back from two acls.

666
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: I was out for almost two years and I won

667
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: my second race back and I cried like a little baby.

668
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: You know, it was just it was a It was

669
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: a lot. It was a lot of hard work. You know,

670
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: I had to learn how to walk again. You know,

671
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: it was a it was from you know, bottom to

672
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: the top. I was at freaking the bottom, like minus

673
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: the bottom. I was in the basement. I was you know,

674
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: it was a pretty gnarly comeback. But yeah, I think

675
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: I was most proud outside of the Olympics with with

676
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: that comeback race.

677
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: As an elite athlete, you have to deal with well

678
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: one being in like peak physical condition at all times,

679
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: dealing with injuries, and then you add in to all

680
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: of that skiing where a catastrophic accident can happen at

681
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: any moment. How do you deal psychologically with that cycle

682
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: of injury, healing, rehab, injury that's really unique to skiing.

683
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: Well, honestly, I talk about this a lot now when

684
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: I do public speaking. You know, I approach risk, you

685
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: know when I'm in the starting gate, I've already I

686
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: know what the risks are. You know, I know that

687
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: I could crash, I could be paralyzed. Many people were

688
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: when I was racing. But you can't think about that.

689
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: You have to focus on, you know, being present, being

690
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: in the moment, your the work that you've put in,

691
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: trusting that preparation, and really letting go of that of

692
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: that anxiety or fear, because if you think about what

693
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: could happen, it will happen. So I think about literally

694
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: only performing getting my best all the time, because if

695
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm nervous, if I'm thinking about what if anything negative

696
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about, will most likely happen. So, you know,

697
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: I feel like, what's you know, what's the worst that

698
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: can happen. I'm just going to go for it and

699
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see where it ends up. But if

700
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: you think about, you know, the negative, and you don't

701
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: ski your best, you're you've already lost before you've even started.

702
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure this is the problem with my golf game.

703
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure.

704
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: Thinking about hitting it into the bunker and you hit

705
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: into the bunker of.

706
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: Course, of course, yeah, I mean, it's not risking catastrophic

707
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 2: injury necessarily, But but.

708
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: The bunker is pretty catastrophic yet pond over.

709
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 2: There is really large and is pretty close to where

710
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: I want to hit it. You were known for putting

711
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: your body on the line skiing courageously aggressively, and how

712
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: did you deal with criticism that you got over the

713
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: years to the type of skiing that you wanted to

714
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: do and the fact that you were dealing with all

715
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: of these injuries because of how courageous you were. Like,

716
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: just talk to me a little bit about your relationship

717
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: with the press at that time and having to having

718
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: to deal with that in addition to everything else.

719
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the press has been, uh an interesting part of

720
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: my career. You know, I've always been very open and forthcoming.

721
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: You know, I don't I don't really hold my cards

722
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: close to my chest, and you know, I'm an open

723
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: book and I do things kind of my way. You know.

724
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: I was just different. I or makeup. I didn't. I

725
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: don't follow trends. I just do what I think is best.

726
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: And I think it was hard for me because when

727
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: I started to get injured, Honestly, at that time, people

728
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: were so negative on me because I was always winning

729
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: and then I want and everyone's like, oh, we want

730
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: you to come back. You know. It's like that that

731
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: classic American story. We you know, we tear her down

732
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: to build her back up again, and then everyone you

733
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: know wanted me to see me and succeed, and then

734
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: and then again. Kind of at the end, it was like, oh,

735
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: now she's getting injured too much and she's risking too much,

736
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: that she's doing this to herself. And you know, I

737
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: was known as this very dramatic person, which is pretty

738
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: hilarious because I am the farthest thing from dramatic. I

739
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: am a simple, like straightforward person. You know, I do

740
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: what needs to be done. You know, if I've heard

741
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: I come back, I don't like I you know, I'm

742
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm not dramatic. And so I struggled a lot with

743
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: the people's perception of me, and I still honestly do.

744
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: It's it's a really hard thing to to accept because

745
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: I just want to like scream at the Internet like

746
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: that's not who I am. But that's just the way

747
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: things are now with social media. Everyone has their opinion

748
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: and and you know, I, yeah, I crashed a lot,

749
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: but guess what downhill you're going eighty miles an hour

750
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: should happen. You know, you put everything on the line,

751
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: and sometimes, you know, you hit a bump and your

752
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: ski goes the opposite way and before you know what,

753
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: you're blown out your knee again. So you know, I

754
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: just I try not to focus on the external distractions.

755
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: I always try to focus on, Okay, who am I,

756
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: what am I doing? Why is this important to me?

757
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: Who is important to me? And the Internet is not

758
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: important to me? So but it's still, you know, even

759
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: though I say that, it's still a process. I mean

760
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: never easy. I would say, you.

761
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: Know, in football, in basketball, in baseball, at least for

762
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: the men, you're given a ton of training about how

763
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: to deal with the press. And you are in this sport,

764
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: in golf, in you are in this sport that in

765
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: the United States becomes really really big once a year,

766
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: slash once every four years, and so you're dealing during

767
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: those times with like intense media press. But my guess

768
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: is you're not really given the training for it at

769
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: least here, maybe in maybe in German, you know, in Germany,

770
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: right like you can answer those questions, are you know,

771
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: because they're more used to it or whatever. So I

772
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 2: wonder one is that true, and two if you could

773
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 2: have an impact toward young athletes today in your sport

774
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: or potentially ones also that have a similar sort of

775
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: media cycle. Is there any advice that you would give?

776
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: Is there anything you wish you had done different?

777
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I guess looking back you can always

778
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: say I wish I would have done some things differently.

779
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: But advice I always give is to be authentic. Be

780
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: authentically yourself, don't listen to what anyone else says. I

781
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: think we're all different and that difference makes us special.

782
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: And you know, I didn't get media training. I didn't

783
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: really think to a degree necessarily that I needed it

784
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: because I was never hiding anything. I'm just explaining to

785
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: the media what happened, what my experience is, you know,

786
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: what I'm doing, how I'm feeling. I didn't feel like

787
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: that that was a problem. And you know, in Europe

788
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: and when I was doing interviews in German, it was

789
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: pretty simple because there was very little drama. You know,

790
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: they were talking more about how is your run, how

791
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: do you physically feel? Instead of who are you dating?

792
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: And that type of conversation was hard for me because

793
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: it was not about sports. Anymore. It was going into

794
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 1: a different realm that I pop called. Yeah, it's pop cult.

795
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: It's it's just and it's hard. It's hard to manage

796
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: that and every again, like everyone has their opinion, and

797
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, keeping that at an arms distance is hard.

798
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: When everyone's constantly asking me about it. I can shut

799
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: off social media, but when you're giving interviews and it's

800
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: always the same question over and over again, it drives

801
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: you nuts. So I would say, you know, just be yourself.

802
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: Always be yourself, Always be authentic. And I always think,

803
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: if I am not sure about an answer, just wait

804
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: and I'll you know, think about the answer and I'll

805
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: say it maybe later or do my own thing with it.

806
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: But if you're unsure, never answered, because people always like

807
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: to rope you into things, and if you're unsure, you're

808
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: going to get yourself into trouble.

809
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny because even with all the

810
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: media training they get. I just had a conversation with

811
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 2: Andrew Whitworth from the LA Rams after losing the first

812
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: Super Bowl that he played with them. He gave a

813
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: quote and the Jenna Basically the quote was, you know,

814
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: how do you feel losing the Super Bowl? And the

815
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: answer that was given was we're all going to die someday.

816
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: And he said even as he was saying it, Now,

817
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 2: what he explained to me was and he said, I'm

818
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: sure he hasn't memorized like the twelve sentences that he

819
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 2: said around that quote that actually made that not about

820
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: losing the Super Bowl, right like not about But at

821
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: the time he said, you know, as he said it,

822
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: he knew, like.

823
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's going to be the head.

824
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: That's that's what they're going to take.

825
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean everything can be taken out

826
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: of context. I I tried to not give them sound

827
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: bites like that. You know, I think there's a way

828
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: of being authentic and being yourself while also limiting that

829
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: drama effect that people like to hone in on because

830
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: they're always waiting for you to slip up or say

831
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: one thing that they can use as a headline and

832
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: click bait. And honestly, nowadays they'll just do it anyway.

833
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: So it's at least if you don't say it, it may

834
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: be a little bit better. But honestly, yeah, it doesn't matter,

835
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: it cares, it doesn't matter. That is what it is.

836
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 5: Uh.

837
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: You retired in twenty nineteen after getting one final medal

838
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 2: at the World Championships. How does that feel? Is there

839
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: a relief? Is there sadness? Is there a regret? Is

840
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: there a celebration? How does that feel?

841
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: Kind of all the above? I mean, I think physically

842
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 1: I was really relieved because I was in so much pain.

843
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: You know, I was wearing two knee braces I had,

844
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: was skiing with no lcl I a tibo plateau fracture.

845
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I felt like I was

846
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: being held together by duct tape at that point. So

847
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: physically I was like, this is this is what's right,

848
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: this is what needs to happen. But also emotionally, I know,

849
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: I love skiing. I love pushing myself. I love fighting

850
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: for a challenge. I love even the process, the gym,

851
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, the work that goes into it, and then

852
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: obviously the racing and going fast. You know, all those

853
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: things are things that I love dearly and I've done

854
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: my whole life. So you know, going from something that's

855
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: been there is like my rock since I was you know,

856
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: two and a half years old, to waking up one

857
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: day being retired and that's just gone. It was the

858
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: process was more of mourning as if I something or

859
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: someone had died, had it kind of had to go

860
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: through all the phases. I definitely did some celebrating and

861
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: then I try to take some time off and that

862
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: lasted about two days and then I said, put me

863
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: back to work. I need to I need to do stuff.

864
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: This is too much time on my hands. And I've

865
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: always felt, you know, it's been a few years now,

866
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: but finding that new challenge that gets me excited and

867
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: gets that kind of passion within me going like ski racing,

868
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: that is really hard. That's why I'm always I'm so active.

869
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: I'm in the gym, I'm always trying new sports, and

870
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm working hard. But I'm also finding that balance of

871
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: traveling and doing adventures because I need that. It's something

872
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: that I need for my soul. And people think that

873
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: i'm you know, I'm seeking the spotlight, and you know,

874
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing all these things to get attention, and which

875
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: is just such bullshit. You know, I'm just I'm here

876
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: living my life. I'm trying to do what feeds my

877
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: soul and what makes me happy, and that's it. My

878
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: only goal is to you know, lead a healthy life

879
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: that I'm happy with. That I can have a positive

880
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: impact on others and just feed my dogs. You know,

881
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: I got to work hard to feed those guys. There's

882
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: a lot of them there. You go.

883
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: You you just alluded to it, but you use the

884
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: phrase when you retired that your body quote broken beyond repair.

885
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: After all of those years and all of those injuries.

886
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, it's been almost four years

887
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: or four years ish, how as your body resis, do

888
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: you feel better now or do you feel like there

889
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: are things that will never chante? No, you don't.

890
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: I've had three surgery since I retired. One was three

891
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: weeks ago.

892
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: Jesus.

893
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 1: It's I'm paying the price for pushing myself the way

894
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: I did. But it's a price worth paying.

895
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: You know.

896
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: I don't have any regrets. I ski with my heart

897
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: on my sleeve, and that's what I enjoy doing, so

898
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have any regrets. I'm really hoping

899
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: that I have one more surgery left. I'm not sure

900
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: when i'll do it. Maybe in the next six months

901
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: or so. I hope that will be the last one

902
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: that I'll need for a while. But it's mainly my

903
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: right knee. That's just it's a constant struggle daily. But

904
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: every athlete and every honestly every person you know, these

905
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: you sacrifice something to succeed to get to where you

906
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: want to go, to follow your dreams. You know, you

907
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: can't have your cake and eat it too. So I

908
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: don't regret anything. I just I do hope that the

909
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: magic of medicine will fix me a little bit more

910
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: than where I currently am.

911
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: Well, look, you're understanding it a little bit. Most people

912
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 2: to achieve their dreams don't have to sacrifice their entire

913
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: body multiple surgeries. Well, let me ask you this, would

914
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: would you ever be satisfied? Just like going and skiing

915
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: a blue ski a blue have a cocktail at the

916
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 2: fire pit.

917
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's what's I do really love doing that.

918
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: I like I have kind of like a ski in

919
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: the blue. Yeah, you know, I don't ski moguls because

920
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: that's just nonsense. That makes my knees hurt just looking

921
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: at it. But I like just a nice groomer, just

922
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: an easy groomer. I'm cruising, you know, we ski over

923
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: to the chalet, I have you know, some hot Toddies

924
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: or whatever, Lobos tequila, and then I'll you know, get

925
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: back on the slopes and I'll ski with some friends

926
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: and I'll go back to my car and I'll go home.

927
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: And it's great. I love doing that. It's just it's simple,

928
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: it's fun. It's you know. I started skiing with my family,

929
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: you know, as family ski trips Keystone with my grandparents,

930
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: and that's what it's all about, you know, just being

931
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: out there with your family, enjoying nature. You no cell phones,

932
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, you're just out there enjoying the moment. And

933
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: that's what I do now.

934
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: I love that. I'm so glad for you about that.

935
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: And that's the first time I've actually thought about it

936
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: like that.

937
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: For you.

938
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: It could be like just going out, being able to

939
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: hang out, enjoy being out. Truthfully, I'm really glad.

940
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: Thanks. I mean, it's that's that's what it's all about,

941
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, life is short. We have to

942
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: enjoy it. If you know we're not enjoying it, then

943
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: do something else that we enjoy.

944
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: I do have to bring this up. You become the

945
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: first woman to ski the street is the strife, and

946
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 2: you did it at night, so you're not what this is.

947
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: This is antithetical to what I thought you were. Well,

948
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: I know, but I'm saying, like, I thought you were

949
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: gonna tell me like f off about the blue, Like no,

950
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: I've got to go, like I'm going to do Mount

951
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: Baldy or something, or half Dome in Yosemite. They're gonna

952
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: put They're gonna put snow on it for me, and

953
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ski down the face of a clip. Why

954
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: why'd you do it? What made you do it? What

955
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: made you want to do it? And why'd you do it?

956
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I've always wanted to race against the men.

957
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: It's something that I'm you know, I just it's kind

958
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: of like Michelle Wee, you know, it's like the next level.

959
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: I just want to get to the next level. How

960
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: do I make my ski faster? So Red Bull's always

961
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: known this, They've I've been They've been my sponsor for

962
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: like twenty years. They call me up after Thanksgiving and

963
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: they said, hey, do you want to ski to Strike

964
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, absolutely, let's do it. And they're

965
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: like at night and I'm like, I mean, I don't

966
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: know how you're gonna do that, but sure, let's let's

967
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: do it. And they're like, really, honestly, we thought you

968
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: were going to say no, we didn't really have a

969
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: tough plan.

970
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: A plan.

971
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, they figured out a plan and it was

972
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I creb skiing in Minnesota, which actually I

973
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: skied at night usually after school. We always ski at night,

974
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: so I love skiing at night. But I mean I've

975
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: never skeed a downhill at night, you know, to light

976
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: up a whole downhill course, which they had to do

977
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: it in sections because it was just impossible to do.

978
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: But I mean it was pretty amazing. Again, I love

979
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: pushing the limits. So but I hadn't skied. I hadn't

980
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: skied one run of downhill since my very last downhill

981
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: race in twenty nineteen. So I literally jumped in borrows

982
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: from Ryan Cochran Siegel, who won the silver medal at

983
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: the last Olympics. I borrowed a pair of his skis.

984
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: I did a couple of practice runs, and then I

985
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: did it, and I was, honestly, I was probably the

986
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: most nervous I've ever been in my life. I don't

987
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: really get nervous, but I was like, I am old,

988
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: Am I insane? You know? Am I gonna totally ruin myself?

989
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: But my ration is this, I mean, yes, by the way,

990
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: you are insane. That is insane, but all the rest

991
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: of it, no, go ahead.

992
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: My ration was, you know I'm getting a knee replacement, right,

993
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: so if I crash, oh jeez, and I my stuff out,

994
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: who cares? You know, I'm just gonna get a new

995
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: great is.

996
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: That is not that is not healthy.

997
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: That is not.

998
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: Oh I'm getting a new leg next week anyway, So

999
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: oh my god.

1000
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: That's how my brain works.

1001
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: So that well, it works. It works for you. It

1002
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: worked out, and now your name is there. You can't

1003
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: take that away from you, uh, fearless. In the business

1004
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 2: world here, how that's what we call a professional transition.

1005
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: You must have done this.

1006
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: Advising VC firms. You're working with company, you're making goggles,

1007
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: you're making ski clothing with head. Did you notice how

1008
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: I didn't try to say that, say it unique? Unique? Yeah,

1009
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 2: you're crushing it. What's the next thing? Business? What are

1010
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: you going?

1011
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: We were we have some really amazing products coming up

1012
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: with my production company called Opera Productions. And obviously the

1013
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: strike I get.

1014
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: It, opright, I get it.

1015
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: Not very many people I got it, get it. And

1016
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: then I'm like, I thought this was like, what's apress?

1017
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that's not it.

1018
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: It comes back to fra Boom.

1019
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw. We have a lot of amazing products

1020
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: coming up with that. But obviously, you know, the strikes

1021
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: have slowed everything down. But this winter's coming up, so

1022
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: my my next ski line is launching. I'm actually launching

1023
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: Mend's this year, which I'm really excited about. I have

1024
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: my foundation, which we have our annual gala in a

1025
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: couple I'm really excited about that. What else I mean,

1026
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm on the Olympic bid committee for the Solid Games

1027
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: that I said good luck and thank you. I'm on

1028
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: the Olympic Broadcast Systems Board. I'm doing some things. I'm

1029
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: out here hustling.

1030
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: You're doing a lot of things. If you need a

1031
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 2: skier for any of your projects for a prey.

1032
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: Hey I will.

1033
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: I actually probably don't.

1034
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: Don't give a call. I think it could be good.

1035
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: You could be in the bar on the mountain seeing You.

1036
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely know that, friends, I got you.

1037
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: You'd crush it.

1038
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: You absolutely know that I could do that. Uh yeah.

1039
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: I do want to mention the Lenzy Vaughn Foundation providing

1040
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: camps and scholarships for girls to pursue all sorts of

1041
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: things athletics, academics, the arts, and you had some camps

1042
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: this summer I mentioned earlier Strong Girls Camps. Yep, was

1043
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: that successful.

1044
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was awesome. I mean, honestly, you know, again

1045
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: it kind of was back to Peekaboo. But we have curriculums,

1046
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: so I try to give them skills to be able

1047
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: to be confident and have positive body image and all

1048
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: of these things that you know are just so difficult

1049
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: for kids these days, and try to inspire them so

1050
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: they can go out in the world and be strong,

1051
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, empowered young women. But yeah, we actually just

1052
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: started using our own curriculum this year and I'm really

1053
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: excited about it, and we have a couple more camps

1054
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: coming up, so I'm just going to try to keep scaling,

1055
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: keep impacting as many kids as possible. And I think that's, honestly,

1056
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: such a big part of being an athlete is that

1057
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: responsibility of past paying it forward. And I've all, you know,

1058
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: because of Peekaboo and my parents obviously, I just have

1059
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: taken that responsibility to heart. So definitely something that's driven

1060
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: me the most since I've retired.

1061
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: That is admirable. Congratulations to you. You know, I'm a

1062
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: big fan of yours. I wish you all continued great

1063
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: success with your production company, with the Lindsay Bond Foundation,

1064
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: and with all of your beasts, your VC making shark

1065
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: mogulan skills in the business world. Lendsy, I wish you

1066
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,479
Speaker 2: nothing but the best. Thank you so much for coming

1067
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: and talking to me.

1068
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: Thanks Brandon, I appreciate it. Let's go golfing. I got

1069
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: a hole in one last time we were together, so

1070
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: maybe we'll make it.

1071
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I must be good luck, I think, so

1072
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: let's get it. Let's get it done, all right.

1073
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: Thank you, Lendsy.

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Speaker 2: I'm so stoked you came on. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: It was great to see you again, even if you

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Speaker 2: don't remember meeting me the first time. But I get it.

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Speaker 2: You made a hole in one and that I'm sure

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Speaker 2: caused you. No shortage of celebration between that, your hole

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Speaker 2: in one, your foundation, your businesses, you being a damn delight.

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Speaker 2: You simply cannot be stopped, it seems, so. My best

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Speaker 2: of luck in everything that you have in the future. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: this podcast does have to be stopped right now because

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Speaker 2: we're done. But don't worry, only until next week when

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Speaker 2: we're going to be back with another guest who I

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Speaker 2: am sure will captivate and delight you. So until then,

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Speaker 2: Now long everyone, and have a really good week. Off

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Speaker 2: the Beat is hosted and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner,

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Speaker 2: alongside our executive producer Linglee. Our senior producer is Diego Tapia.

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Speaker 2: Our producers are Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris, and Emily Carr.

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Speaker 2: Our talent producer is Ryan Papa Zachary, and our intern

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Speaker 2: is Thomas Olsen. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak, performed

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Speaker 2: by the one and only Creed Braden