1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: From the Bloomberg Interactive Burgers Studios. This is Bloomberg day 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Break for Monday, April twenty fourth. 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: Coming up today, Kevin McCarthy says the House will pass 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: is one and a half trillion dollar debt ceiling increase. 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: This week, Credit Sweet sees massive outflows during a frantic 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: first quarter. 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: Microsoft, Amazon, and Meta lead a busy week for tech earnings, and. 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Bed Beth and Beyond is the latest retailer to file 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: for bankruptcy. 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: The US evacuates American diplomats and family from the deadly 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: fighting in Sudan. Plus a call de mandate safety standards 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 3: for lithium ion batteries. I'm Michael barr more ahead, I'm. 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: John Stash, Aaron Sports. Then nixt One lead their series 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 4: three to one, a loss for the Islanders, who trailed 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 4: three to one losses for the Mets and yank. 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg day Break, the business 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 5: news you need to sturn your day in just one 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 5: fifteen minute podcast each morning on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 5: Business app, and everywhere you get your podcasts. 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan. 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories. We're 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: following today. 23 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: We begin with a debate that could come to a 24 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: head for markets in the coming weeks. The risk of 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: US default on its debt is front end center. House 26 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: Speaker Kevin McCarthy says his plan to raise the debt 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: ceiling by one and a half trillion dollars will pass 28 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: this week. We're the only ones in Washington that are 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: actually putting a responsible plan out that will raise the 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: debt limit. Think about for more than eighty days. It's 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: been since I sat. 32 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 5: Down with the President on February first to negotiate to 33 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 5: work through this, and he's ignored it. 34 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: Speaker McCarthy discussed his plan in an interview with Fox News. 35 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: He still may need to convince members of his own party, 36 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 2: a person familiar with the county tells Bloomberg McCarthy still 37 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: has not lined up enough votes to pass his bill. 38 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: Well, sticking with Paula takes Nathan. It looks like the 39 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: latest presidential polling shows both parties suffering from candidate fatigue, 40 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: and Bloomberg's Ed Baxter has that story. 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 6: This is a new NBC News poll that shows Americans 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 6: souring on a Biden Trump rematch, and of course, at 43 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 6: this point the most likely scenario. It is. At this stage, 44 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 6: Trump has emerged as a strong front runner on the 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 6: GOP side. Biden is looking to formally announce as early 46 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 6: as this week, but the polling shows most of those surveys, 47 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 6: seventy percent said Biden should not seek reelection this while 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 6: sixty percent said Trump should bow out. Biden's age was 49 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 6: a top issue, while Trump's indictment didn't seem to mean much. 50 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 6: In San Francisco, I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Daybreak, Thank you, Ed. 51 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: Let's turn to markets now, where it's a busy week 52 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: for corporate earnings. More than a third of the companies 53 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: in the S and P five hundred report results, and 54 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: we get a preview from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellace. 55 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 7: Technology will be in focus when we hear from Microsoft, 56 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 7: Meta platforms and alphabet. Lisa Shallett is chief investment Officer 57 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 7: for wealth Management at Morgan Stanley. 58 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 8: So far, earnings have been mixed at best. You know, 59 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 8: certainly we've had a sector mix issue here that you know, 60 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 8: has prevented a material meltdown, but we've had some big 61 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 8: names missing and missing on fundamental things like demand, like pricing, 62 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 8: like margins. 63 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 7: This week, we hear from a wide range of companies 64 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 7: including General Motors, Caterpillar, x On Mobile, ge, MasterCard, Visa, PepsiCo, 65 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 7: Ubs and Ups in New York. Charlie Pellett, Bloomberg Daybreak. 66 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: All right, Charlie, thanks. We We also get earnings from 67 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: a closely watched regional bank today, First Republic reports after 68 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: the close of US trading. Herman Schen is senior US 69 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: regional bank analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence. 70 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 9: First Republic is important because they are sort of viewed 71 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 9: as the ones in the crosshairs the most. If that 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 9: one does face an issue from the FDIC coming in, 73 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 9: the domino effect could happen again and the spotlight could 74 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 9: shift to other banks that maybe are performing a bit 75 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 9: weaker versus the other. So it's incumbent for First Republic 76 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 9: to really stabilize themselves for the industry's stake. And we'd 77 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 9: expect to see some commentary on some stabilization in their 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 9: deposit outflows later in the quarter, which should be. 79 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: And Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Hermann Chan anticipates more than eighty 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: billion dollars in deposit attrition at First Republic. That's before 81 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: larger banks swooped in to backstop the lender with thirty 82 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: billion dollars, and. 83 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: As we await those earnings, Karen one Big Bank CEO, 84 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: says the world is not facing a banking crisis. Morgan 85 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: Stanley's James Gorman tells Nike the banking system will remain 86 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: stable and healthy. Gorman says some individual firms mismanaged their 87 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: duration and interest rate risk, but most banks have not. 88 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: Well in Europe, Nathan, We're also watching banks this morning. 89 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 1: Earnings around from Credit Suite, showing a frantic first quarter 90 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: marked by heavy outflows, and we get the latest live 91 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: with Bloomberg's You and Pots in London. You and good morning, 92 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: Good morning. 93 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 10: Charon Nathan. As if UBS needed a reminder of the 94 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 10: challenge on its hands after the emergency takeover of rival 95 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 10: Credit Sweee, the failed lender saw sixty nine billion dollars 96 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 10: of outflows in the first quarter and its final earning support. 97 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 10: We also found out that key units at Credit Suite 98 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 10: continue to lose money and shed clients, and it barred 99 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 10: far more from a central bank liquidity backstop than previously known. 100 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 10: Plenty more to deal with for new owner UBS in London. 101 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 10: Immune Pot's new midday break. 102 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: All right you and thank you well. Back here in 103 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: the US, one of America's most well known retailers has 104 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: filed for bankruptcy. Now, let's get the details live with 105 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's John Tucker John. 106 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 11: Nathan bed Bath and Beyond shutting down. Act fast. If 107 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 11: you want some towels or bedsheets. They're going to be 108 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 11: liquidating three hundred and sixty bed Bath and Beyond stores 109 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 11: at one hundred and twenty by by Baby shops immediately. 110 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 11: This longtime customer expressed what many are feeling, sick debt scrulously, 111 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 11: they stop accepting coupons and membership discounts. Wednesday, sales at 112 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 11: any remaining brick and mortar stores will be completed. The 113 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 11: locations will be empty by June thirtieth. Analysts say port 114 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 11: management and a high debtloads suffocated the company founded in 115 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 11: nineteen seventy one. The New Jersey based company currently employs 116 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 11: about fourteen thousand people. There is a tiny sliver of 117 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 11: Holt bed Bath and Beyond. It may pivot away from 118 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 11: store closings in the unlikely event it finds some last 119 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 11: minute suitor. Live in New York. I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg 120 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 11: day break. 121 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: All right, John, Thanks, and confusion surrounding Twitter is deepening. 122 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: This morning, a number of high profile accounts saw their 123 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: prized blue check marks reinstated, even though some of their 124 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: owners have been dead for years. Celebrities and public figures 125 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: took to the platform to deny having paid the eight 126 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: dollars a month. 127 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: It's forty five degrees in New York, will have a 128 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: mix of sun and clouds today and ahem, year sixty 129 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: mostly cloudy tonight, getting back down to around forty five. Now, 130 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: let's look at some of the other stories making news 131 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: in New York and around the world. For that, we're 132 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 133 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: Good morning, Michael, Good morning, Nathan. President Biden personally ordered 134 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: the evacuation of the US embassy in Sudan's capital, Kartomb 135 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: as fighting continues between two rival military groups. The US 136 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 3: government made the decision that it was no longer safe 137 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 3: to have the embassy personnel there anymore. Senate Intelligence Committee 138 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: Chair Mark Warner says the US is working on rescuing 139 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: the many AID workers still in Sudan sheltering in place. 140 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: We are working with. 141 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 11: A lot of international partners in this case. 142 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 9: Partners from them at least even believe working with China 143 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 9: and Europeans to say those aid workers, we need. 144 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 12: To find a safe way to get them out. 145 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: Senator Warner spoke on ABC's This Week, which can be 146 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: heard Sundays on Bloomberg. Jerry's selection is set to begin today. 147 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,559 Speaker 3: In the federal death penalty trial of a truck driver 148 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: accused of shooting to death eleven Jewish worshipers out of 149 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh synagogue, Robert Bauers faces sixty three accounts in the 150 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen attack at the Tree of Life Synagogue. There 151 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: is a new push to crack down on poorly made 152 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: lithium ion batteries after a splank in fires, some of 153 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: them were deadly, including an eight year old girl who 154 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: died after a fire in their New York home. New 155 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: York senators are now pushing for federal safety guidelines. Senator 156 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer in New York City announced a new bill 157 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: to safety standards for lithium ion batteries. 158 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 12: When you hear from the fire commissioner that our firefighters 159 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 12: are having to learn in real time about these dangers 160 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 12: because they can explode and combust, particularly in fires, you 161 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 12: know that we need to act quickly. 162 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: The Senate Majority leader was joined by a fellow Senator, 163 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: Kirsten Gillibrand, saying many of the batteries are produced in 164 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: China and are unsafe. A South New Jersey Little League 165 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: is taking aim at spectators who fight with volunteer umpires 166 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: over calls they don't like. 167 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 6: Now. 168 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: Deptford Township Little League officials say, if you fight with 169 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: the umps, you can find yourself calling three games before 170 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: you are allowed back in the bleachers. Township Little League 171 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: president Don Buzzufi. 172 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: They're not baseball players, they're children, so always keep that 173 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 4: in the back of your mind and let them play. 174 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: League President Buzzefi says it's gotten so bad two volunteer 175 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 3: umpires have quit in the past week. Global News twenty 176 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: four hours a day, powered by more than twenty seven 177 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: hundred journalists and analysts and over a hundred twenty countries. 178 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: And Michael Bard, this is Bloomberg. 179 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 7: Nathan, Thank you, Michael. 180 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: Time now for our Bloomberg Sports Update. Good morning, John Stanshaller. 181 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 4: Good morning, Nathan Knicks. Fans haven't had enjoyed a weekend 182 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 4: like this past one and a long time wins at 183 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: the Garden Friday night, then again yesterday afternoon, a little 184 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: closer than Game three was Nick blew up fifteen point leading, 185 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 4: fell behind, but they beat Cleveland one o two to 186 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 4: ninety three and half for the first time in a decade. 187 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 4: They are just one win from advancing to the second 188 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 4: round of the playoffs. Jalen Bruns and twenty nine points, 189 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: r J Barrett with twenty six the Nicks one without 190 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 4: much from Julius Random only seven points, two rebounds, and 191 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: he didn't play at all in the fourth quarter. Coach 192 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 4: Tom Thimbodeau Saint Randall is still suffering from the late 193 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 4: season ankle injury. The Cavs star Donovan Mitchell had only 194 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 4: eleven points, shot five of eighteen, had six turnovers. Game 195 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 4: five is Wednesday in Cleveland. Boston won in Atlanta to 196 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: go up three to one. Minnesota be Denver still trails 197 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: three to one, and a one point win for Golden 198 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 4: State over Sacramento. That series is tied to two. The 199 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 4: Warriors continuing what happened all season with them great at 200 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 4: home but struggles on the road at the Ubs Arena. 201 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 4: Carolina up beat the Islanders five to two and the 202 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: Hurricanes go up three games to one, all four road 203 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: teams one in the NHL, Boston at Florida for a 204 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: three to one league, Dallas at Minnesota, Edmondson LA. Both 205 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: those series in the Western now tied to two. That 206 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 4: Oilers Kings series has had three games go to overtime. 207 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: The Devils, off the ot win in Game three, will 208 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 4: now look to tie up the series with the Rangers. Tonight, 209 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 4: It's Game four at the Garden. No wins yet by 210 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: the home team. Mets at a lead on the Giants, 211 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 4: who then rallied scored eight ton One five to four. 212 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: Mets now come home Toronto beat the Yankees five to one. 213 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 4: They won the series, outscoring the Yanks thirteen to five. 214 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 4: It's the first series the Yanks have lost this season. 215 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 4: John Stashedward Bloomberg. 216 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 5: Sports Live from coast to coast, from New York to 217 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 5: San Francisco, Boston to Washington, d C. Nationwide on Sirius XM, 218 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 5: The Bloomberg Business Appen Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 219 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 6: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 220 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: We're watching futures slip this morning with traders getting ready 221 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: for a flood of corporate earnings this week and some 222 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: key economic data at the end of the week that 223 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: could put the Fed's policy path into focus. Let's get 224 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: you set for the trading week ahead. We're joined by 225 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: Dennis Gartman, the chairman of the University of Akron and 226 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: Dowment Investment Committee and the former publisher of the Gartman Letter. Dennis, 227 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: a lot for investors to focus on this week, even 228 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: with the FED in its blackout period now, But I'm 229 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: curious to get your thoughts on where things stand when 230 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: it comes to the debt ceiling debate, because we did 231 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: just hear from House Speaker McCarthy yesterday on one of 232 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: the Sunday shows saying that he does think his bill 233 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: will pass. Some of the reporting we're hearing, though, is 234 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: that he might not have the votes from his own 235 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: party lined up. How big a risk would you say 236 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: the threat of default should be for investors? 237 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 13: The risk of default should be relatively minimal. To be 238 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 13: quite honest, I've been in this business for almost fifty years. 239 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 13: I've seen this process when its way to finalization. I 240 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 13: don't know, five, six, seven times in the course of 241 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 13: the past fifty years, we'll get to eleven fifty nine, 242 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 13: fifty nine on the clock and they'll come up with 243 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 13: an agreement of some sort. Yes it's difficult, Yes it's disconcerting. 244 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 13: Yes it's dismaying. Yes we look like a third world nation. 245 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 13: But when push comes to final show they'll reach some 246 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 13: sort of an agreement. It's a little discouraging to find 247 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 13: out that even the Republicans are unable to pass piece 248 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 13: of legislation to get it through the House. Whatever they 249 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 13: come up with to begin with will be denied by 250 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 13: the Senate, but eventually there will be a resolution. It's 251 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 13: always come that way. Let us hope that I'm not 252 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 13: overly optimistic. Let us hope that I'm absolutely right, and 253 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 13: I think that I shall be. This is, as I said, 254 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 13: I've lived through this too many times in the past 255 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 13: to think that we are stupid beyond belief to allow 256 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 13: a default of the United States government obligations that just 257 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 13: won't happen, or let's put it this way, that just 258 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 13: cannot happen. If it were to happen, it would be 259 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 13: a war effort of consequence. And let us hope that 260 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 13: I'm optimistic and correct. 261 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: Could we see volatility for investments on the way to 262 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: that outcome? 263 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 13: Not a question. We'll see great volatility, and I think 264 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 13: that the big risk is to the downside in the 265 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 13: stock market at this point. I think that's where the 266 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 13: risks lie, not so much in the government securities themselves, 267 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 13: but in the fact that the public has been involved, 268 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 13: the fact that we've had a huge rally in stocks 269 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 13: since the start of the year predicated basically upon five 270 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 13: share five companies Meta, Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, and Navidia. I 271 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 13: think between between the five of them, that's been almost 272 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 13: two thirds of the gain of the S and P 273 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 13: five hundred has been predicated upon the advantage of those stocks. 274 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 13: That's where the risks lie. 275 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: And we are going to hear from those companies reporting 276 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: earnings many of those companies this week. In fact, what's 277 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: your expectation what we're going to see from the earnings 278 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: from those mega megacap tech companies. Can they continue to 279 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: keep the kind of momentum that they've shown in the 280 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: start of this year. 281 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 13: Investors better hope that they can continue to keep that 282 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 13: type of momentum. They've laid off a lot of people, 283 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 13: or said that they shall be laying off a number 284 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 13: of people. The earnings and estimates are beyond my can 285 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 13: to be quite honest, I'm more fascile with the what's 286 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 13: going on with government security, is more facile with what's 287 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 13: going on in for in exchange, more fascile with what's 288 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 13: going on in commodities. I leave the estimates of earnings 289 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 13: of corporations to other people wiser than I hate to 290 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 13: say that, but it's just the I've learned after the 291 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 13: course of five decades of this business, Trying to make 292 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 13: an estimate of corporate earnings is beyond my can. 293 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: Well, you can make an estimate as far as what 294 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: we're expecting from this Federal Reserve and the possibility of 295 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: more rate hikes to come, and the potential that that 296 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: could have an impact on credit conditions going forward. What 297 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: are you seeing when it comes to the risk of 298 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: further credit tightening after what we saw in the regional 299 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: banks in the last couple of months. 300 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 13: I think that's a very fair and estimation that shall happen. 301 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 13: I don't think there's any question but that regional banks 302 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 13: and smaller banks are tightening up their loan applications, their 303 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 13: loan requirements. There's no questions that that's happening. I think, 304 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 13: as far as the FED is concerned, another twenty five 305 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 13: basis points is typed into the market, no question. The 306 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 13: question shall be what happens after the May meeting, where 307 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 13: we'll get twenty five basis points that may be actually 308 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 13: will may be the terminal rate. But when will the 309 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 13: Fed begin to ease monetary policy? When shall they begin 310 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 13: to allow the overnight FED funds right to decline. That's 311 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 13: not going to happen until twenty twenty four at the earliest. 312 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 13: It'll be quite some period of time. The Fed shall 313 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 13: sit tight do nothing after raising twenty five more basis 314 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 13: points at the main meeting. 315 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: In our last thirty seconds here, Dennis, do you think 316 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: that holds up? That thesis holds up. If we do 317 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: see a further credit tightening, that could have an impact 318 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: on what the Fed could do later on this year 319 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: into NAC. 320 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 13: I think the actual facts of credit tightening by the 321 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 13: regional and smaller banks is not going to become public 322 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 13: knowledge until five a month to six weeks out. So 323 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 13: the SAED has to deal with what they have on 324 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 13: hand at this point, and that's the inflation still is 325 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 13: a problematic circumstance. It'll be there will be a reason 326 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 13: for the Fed too to hold right steady through the summer, 327 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 13: into the autumn and into the winter, predicated upon a 328 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 13: slowing of credit availability. But that's going to be down 329 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 13: the road someplace. We don't have to worry about that 330 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 13: right now. That FED does not have that, we'll not 331 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 13: have the facts of that circumstance for a question rate 332 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 13: in time, in into the future. 333 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Today, your morning brief on the 334 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: story's making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 335 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed at six am 336 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, and anywhere else you 337 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 338 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning starting at five 339 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: am Wall Street time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 340 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: in New York, Bloomberg ninety nine to one in Washington, 341 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: Bloomberg one oh six to one in Boston, and Bloomberg 342 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: ninety sixty in San Francisco. 343 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 344 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. Just say Alexa play Bloomberg eleven thirty. 345 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: Plus listen coast to coast on the Bloomberg Business app, 346 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: serious XM Channel one nineteen, the iHeartRadio app, and on 347 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: Bloomberg dot Com. I'm Nathan Hager. 348 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: And I'm Karen Moscow. Join us again tomorrow morning for 349 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: all the news you need to start your day right 350 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: here on Bloomberg Daybreak