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Speaker 1: It's behind the Bastards, That's what it is. So what

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Speaker 1: do you got? What are you complaining about? Come on,

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Speaker 1: come on inside behind the Bastards town and hear about

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Speaker 1: bad people. I'm Robert Evans. This is my podcast. So

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Speaker 1: how did this become a town? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: It's always been a town. What are you doing? It's

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Speaker 1: always been a town. Are you doing? It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: like Waco? You know, I don't it safe? Little town

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Speaker 1: where the A t F never rambles by? All right, well,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's all the work I should do today.

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Speaker 1: So if you do any way for me to not

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Speaker 1: do anything but us to have a show this week.

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Speaker 1: I don't any ideas. I don't have a way for

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Speaker 1: you to not do anything, but I do trust Daniel

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Speaker 1: put in the door opening sound effect. Here. Oh my gosh, Chris, Hello,

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Speaker 1: it's me. I'm here. I'm here to make sure you

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Speaker 1: don't have to do any work by cooling the podcast

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Speaker 1: once again, thank god, because let me tell you, I'm lazy.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get started. How do you what are

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Speaker 1: we gonna learn about today. How do you feel about

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Speaker 1: the Thompson submachine gun? Oh, my gosh, of of the

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Speaker 1: submachine guns, it's a pretty good one. If I was

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Speaker 1: up on my list of things to do that with. Ye. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: you can't make the Thompson submachine gun really in the

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Speaker 1: the Symbiontomatic Variants is. The rights to produce this is

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Speaker 1: owned by a company called Car Arms. Yeah. Car they

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Speaker 1: like little Pink carry guns and stuff too. I didn't

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Speaker 1: submachine guns semipad and they also so they famously also

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Speaker 1: a gun to me. Yeah, this is this is this

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Speaker 1: is a weapon. You know. They make this pivot in

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Speaker 1: the NYPD YPT just like loves this gun. This, this

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Speaker 1: one Justin Moon, the son of one Reverend Sun Young Moon.

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Speaker 1: And that is who we're talking about, son Young Moon

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Speaker 1: laced cult, especially for something that like literally started as

426
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Speaker 1: a sex cult, it turns into this thing where there's

427
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: no drugs, there's no sex, there's no alcohol. Except there's's

428
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 1: one exception those which is the church has a sacrament

429
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: that you drink at like weddings and some events. That's

430
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of alcohol bakes together and it may

431
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: or may not do what. I don't know see this

432
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,239
Speaker 1: because there's there's a whole debate about this because this

433
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: this thing might have Moon's blood in it. And yes,

434
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: the actual complication that this is a secret. Uh, like

435
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: high level members of the church don't actually know whether

436
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: or not there's blood in it. Like they have different

437
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: opinions and the like sometimes a contract each other. Moon

438
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: has both said that it literally is his blood and

439
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: then also that it's not his blood in it. So

440
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: there's a there's a whole running debated this. That's rad,

441
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: you know what, That critical support. That's cool. That's among

442
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: the cult leader flexes I've come across. That's one of

443
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: the better ones. So yeah, I'm not gonna tell you

444
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: if you drinking my blood you might be. We've got

445
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: what's important is you drink whatever I tell you too.

446
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: That's what's critical. So so yeah, we we we we

447
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: have Shroding we have Shrodinger's vampiresm But the everything about

448
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: this is that this this is a very conservative sort

449
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: of Christian could but there's also this like new edge

450
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: thing to it, a New Age like sort of edge

451
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: to it. And and you know, for for example, they

452
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: called God's existence in the universe the universe the prime

453
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: universal force. And I'm going to read a passage from

454
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: the Divine Principles. Not to be confused with Divine principle.

455
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: These are two separate things. Uh, the Moodies will get

456
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: extremely mad if you confuse them, even though they have

457
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: basically okay. So in in this Golden Age, the highly

458
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: advanced scientific achievements of the Occident will serve to make

459
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: the eternal life of the new world convenience and pleasant,

460
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: and the highly advanced religious and metaphysical achievement of the

461
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: Oriens will provide the philosophy of the New Age. Thus,

462
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: the New Age will see perfect harmony between the cultures

463
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: of East and West. The one unified world will be

464
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: fulfilled horizontally between the Occidents and the Orient, and also

465
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: vertically between the spiritual and physical worlds. In this unified world,

466
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: all nations will live in harmonious association with all others

467
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: and share a common religious philosophy under God's direct guidance.

468
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: This new age will no longer be regarded as the

469
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: Christian era, and said, it will be known as the

470
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: Cosmic era, with the adoption of a cosmic calendar. And

471
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: you know this is yeah, but I think this is

472
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: this is you know, like this is like one of

473
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: the Moon's strokes of genius because it lets him play

474
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: both sides of the religious ile. For you know, when

475
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: they're trying to convert Christians, they play up the sort

476
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: of Christian family value side, and this lesson get in

477
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: with the sort of the Christian the sort of Christian

478
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: family values. Right when they're dealing with hippies, they play

479
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: up this sort of new agey stuff. It's it's genius,

480
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: it's it's this. They they they've synthesized sort of by accident,

481
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: but they've they've synthesized basically. There's there's there's all of

482
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: the sort of political and cultural trends of like the

483
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: sixties all the way through the eighties, and and and the

484
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: the other sort of important aspects of this faith is

485
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: that everyone is born with like sin from a bunch

486
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: of sources. I mean, there's there's there's a lot of

487
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: different like things that give you sin um, one of

488
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: which is like, you know, you have eves sin, and

489
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: so in order to get rid of eves sin for

490
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, like doing the fall during your wedding ceremony,

491
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: the wife and the groom take terms like beating each

492
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: other with a giant stick, which what what is this?

493
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: What kind of wit is this? I don't know. It's

494
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: just a stick, and it's like it's just it's just

495
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: a stick. It's it's kind of I think it's kind

496
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: of baseball bat esque. They beat each other with this,

497
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: and Robert, do you know who else will be will

498
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: beat you with a baseball bat um? I mean the

499
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: Texas State Juvenile Justice. Yeah, that they could sponsor us.

500
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: That that's a thing that might happen. Yeah, that could happen.

501
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: Fingers crossed, God willing. You know, if Christ is with

502
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: us as he is with Reverend Moon, that will happen.

503
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: And yeah, we will have products and services eternally. Uh, yeah,

504
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: we're back. People are getting whacked by sales decks. We've

505
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: been a bad influence on honestly, most of the weddings

506
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: I've been to would have been improved if the bride

507
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: and groom had to hit each other with a bat.

508
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm just gonna say it, that would make

509
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: most weddings better for the spectators at least. What especially

510
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: if you can hit the priest too. Yeah, Unfortunately, you

511
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: don't do that. It's it's it's just it's just you

512
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: hit your wife and your wife hits you. Well. Yeah,

513
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: and unfortunately it gets the gets less. Frun from here

514
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: because you also have to pay, like Judas is Sin,

515
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: which means that in whorder to get married, you have

516
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: to pay a hundred and twenty dollars to the church.

517
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: Because that's uh, you have to. You have to. You

518
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: have to repay thirtyfold Judas is sin of the thirty coins,

519
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: which are you Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

520
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 1: That's that's what makes it okay, That's what God is Like.

521
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: I'm so pissed about this thing that I set up,

522
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: an engineered and knew was going to happen centuries before

523
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: I ever did. I'm so angry about it that you

524
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: gotta pay me to be fair. So their their version,

525
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: in their version of the Judas betrayal. God's plan is

526
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: not for Jesus to die. God's plans for Jesus to

527
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: like found a family. And then what happens is said

528
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: is that he gets trayed, and that that that that's

529
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: the origin of like that sin. Right, so it makes

530
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: slightly more you know what, but that makes more sense.

531
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: That is that the one price, it's also a dred

532
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: and twenty yen. It's also a hundred like it's it's

533
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: it's just a hundred and twenty of whatever the denomination

534
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: of currency is, whatever courtesy it is from, like gold, gold,

535
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: chroman gold coins. It's like it's it's great, well, yeah

536
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: it was thirty pieces of silver gold. Yeah, because I'm

537
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: gonna guess thirty silver coins whatever size they were back then.

538
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: It's probably like come rand today. Like I always had

539
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: the feeling in the Bible that like that wasn't nothing,

540
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, that was that was like a pretty good,

541
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: pretty good pay for giving Jesus up. Yeah, but so

542
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: you know you have so you have that sin, and

543
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: and there there's there's also other sin. There's so there's

544
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: there's there's demonic influence in your in your like historical bloodline,

545
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: right and you know what, They're not far off according

546
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: to a random Wikipedia page on thirty pieces of silver,

547
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: depending on you know the size of coin and the value,

548
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: the type of silver and whatnot that went into it. Approximately, Well,

549
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: you're not paying for a thirtyfold then, though someone else

550
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: said ninety and three thousand. I don't think anyone knows, Chris.

551
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody has any idea how much. Please continue.

552
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: So you also have this demonic sin, and and with

553
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: the demonic sin, you have to pay the you have

554
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: to pay the church per generation of your family to

555
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: purge the bloodline from sin. That's it's nice that they

556
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: went with a flat race. It's like some families, like

557
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm Italian, my family has a lot. You go back

558
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: a couple of generations, it's way more sins than the

559
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: present generations. Especially British people. What a deal the British

560
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: you're getting. If you're fucking grandpa was with the East

561
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: India Company or whatever, you're like Holy Ship Bucks saying, man,

562
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: you know you joke about this. One of the things

563
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: that they do is like they get Japanese women to

564
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: like like pay pay the church, like enormous amounts of

565
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: indulgences as like a like payment for the comfort women

566
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: in Korea, so like they they're legitimately doing this. That's

567
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: that's a mess. I mean, yeah, that's a really complicated

568
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: kind of horrible too. Like you really have to sit

569
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: down and think out the per mutations of how that's bad.

570
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's worse than even sounds now for

571
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: reasons that we will get into late a bit. U boy,

572
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't like that very much. The more you look

573
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: at this to more of the church has to look

574
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: like a pyramid scheme, right, because in order to get married,

575
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: you have to be part of the church for three years,

576
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: convert three people to join the church, pay them money,

577
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: and then moon or like later Originally it's just mood

578
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: will pick who you marry, but later on, like there's

579
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: like there's like church committees that will like select who

580
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: you're going to marry. And you know, you see how

581
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: this process works, right, in order to get married, you

582
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: have to bring more people into the church. And then

583
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: in order to you know, so that's the first process.

584
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: You bring in your your new marks, and then your

585
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: new marks start paying the church and so you what

586
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: what you have in order to get in, you know,

587
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: the whole whole thing of this, the Church's whole ideologies.

588
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: You have to get married and that like if if,

589
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: if you're not married, you can't see the Kingdom of Gone,

590
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: and you can't have sex. So this whole cult is

591
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: designed as a sort of pyramid scheme to like it

592
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: just bring bring more people in and pay them more money.

593
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: And so you know that that's one way they bring

594
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: people in. The other way is through you know, sort

595
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: of like classic cult recruitment stuff. So they have hundreds

596
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,479
Speaker 1: of friant groups and you know, they'll have like a

597
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: farm and they'll be like, hey, come to this farm.

598
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: Have it will be at shell time. And so you know,

599
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: they do these things where they make everyone chant constantly,

600
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 1: and they constantly move everyone back and forth if your

601
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: activities and suddenly there's just like enormous pressure to conform.

602
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: And you know, when you try to leave, they'll be like, oh, well,

603
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: we don't have any busses that can take you back

604
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: to the city right now, so it's really inconvenient for us.

605
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 1: Will you stay for like a couple more days? And

606
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: they you know, they sort they a lot of times

607
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: like so they the way it usually works as they'll

608
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: assigned like a member of the cult that's like your person,

609
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: and they follow you around all the time, and you

610
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: like to become friends with you. That's a pretty common

611
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Yeah, and then you try to leave

612
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: like your friend, like emotionally blackmails you into stay late

613
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: and staying and more of the more of the hits

614
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: they're playing their heads now, the old, the best, the

615
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: top forty of being This is pretty classic cult stuff.

616
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: But the scale, the scale here is incredible. Now, Reverend

617
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: Moon or Father or Father Moon as they call him,

618
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: claims to be the literal messiah bringing about heaven on earth,

619
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: and he is trying to take over the world like that.

620
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: That is the goal of the cult and it's it's

621
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: what Moon, and he's very consistent about this. It is

622
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: what Moon and all of his organizations are dedicated to

623
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: him taking over the world. The goal is to crush communism,

624
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: reunify North beautified Korea with Moon as its ruler. And

625
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: then after she's defeated Communism and crushed North Korea and

626
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: you know there's there's one Korea. Uh, the U s

627
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: will like fall into in subservience in like in deference

628
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: of the superior Korean states and then they will take

629
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: over the rest of the world. That seems optimistic. That

630
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: seems optimistic. He was never close to doing this, but

631
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: he gets much closer to this than like anyone should

632
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: ever be able to do to having the United States

633
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: about a Korea's sovereignty. Yes, this, he gets closer to

634
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: this than anyone ever reasonably should. Um. I'm gonna read

635
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: a quote about what his goal is here. Quote, the

636
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: whole world is in my hand, and I will conquer

637
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: and subjugate the world. When we are in battle against

638
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: the against the whole of the nation of the US.

639
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: If you truly are in love with the nation, and

640
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: if you truly love this nation more than anything else,

641
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: this nation will come into God's possession in Satan will

642
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with it. With that as a bullet,

643
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: we can smash the whole world. So he actually just

644
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: has says stuff like this because she's trying to take

645
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: over the US, Because he realizes that if he takes

646
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: over the US and Korea and a few other in

647
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: like Japan, a few other countries, he can just be

648
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: can see control of the entire world. And the other

649
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: aspect of this is that he has the spiritual power

650
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: that allows him to sort of walk in the spirit

651
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: world with Leason's tireful followers can do this too, and

652
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: so he finds and gets you know, the he'll he'll

653
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: find world leaders in the spirit world and and get

654
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: testimonies from them. So here here some of what they

655
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: have to say. This is part of Moon's message of

656
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: endorsement from John F. Kennedy, which takes the form of

657
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: a letter to the United Nations. Those of you at

658
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: the United Nations, I am John Kennedy. I want you

659
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: to clear an extremely important thing to you. The fact

660
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: that Kennedy sending a message from the spiritual world to

661
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: the United Nations is something that cannot be imagined in

662
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: your world, and it is very significant news. Through attending

663
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: lectures of the New Truth, Divine Principle and Unification Thought

664
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: here in the spirit world, I have understood the direction

665
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: and the goal that the world must take today. I

666
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: want to let the u N know the following Reverend

667
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: Sung Young Moon is the Messiah, the Savior, and the

668
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: true parents of humankind. All human kind of the u

669
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: N have to understand the ideology and works of Reverence

670
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: Sung Young Moon, and they have to accept his leadership

671
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: and guidance. So that's that's that spirit world JFK giving

672
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: their endorsement to Reverend Moon. Um, that's good. I mean

673
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: that is that is very like, honestly very nice of

674
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: the path because you know, it takes a lot you

675
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: have had a lot of ego to be the president

676
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: and to really just bow down to this guy in Korea. Um,

677
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: presidents give him, give him his endorsement. Wow, well you

678
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: know that that's turning. It's actually worse. So thirty six

679
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: presidents endorse him well dead, uh, like five presidents have

680
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: endorsed him, wile four presidents have endorsed him while they

681
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: were alive. So yeah, really well endorsed him in one way,

682
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: gone on tours with him with his organizations and said

683
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: that like or like given speeches for him and said

684
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: that he was doing good work. Uh yeah yeah, okay, okay,

685
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Well, not endorsing Korean sovereignty over the

686
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: United States, but like, yeah, this dude's a cool guy

687
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: because he's paying maids. That makes sense. That sounds like

688
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: one of them was Clinton, wasn't it amazingly? No? Wow?

689
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: Good stunningly Clinton? No. George W. Bush, though, yes, yeah,

690
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: what about Carter. Carter seems to have not liked him,

691
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: which is which is good. So okay, it doesn't have

692
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: the best history with Korea Carter, but at least he's

693
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: got that right. Yeah, okay. There's a lot of these

694
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: sort of expeditions to the spirit realm and and one

695
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: of them, like one of his followers is his guy

696
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: named Lee. And so Lee goes the spirit world and

697
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: he finds Marx. He has he has to wander for

698
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: like many days, and he finds Marx in this like

699
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: this incredibly shabby town, yelling communist stuff at a bedraggled

700
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: mass and Lee spends two days arguing with his Angles

701
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: there there's there's there's no mention. Maybe Angles got tired

702
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: of him. I don't know. Yeah, but Lee spends like

703
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: two days arguing with him, and it's like, yeah, I

704
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: made a serious dent in him, Like Marx was incredibly

705
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: embarrassed at the fact that I've disproven him. He finds Stalin,

706
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: who's like barricaded in this like mud huts. He's like

707
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 1: he was barricading the house and there's like mud huts

708
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: all around it, and he tries to go find Stalin

709
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: Stalin has his guard beat him up, so he never

710
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: gets to see Stalin. That that that does you know what,

711
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: that does sound a little like Stalin. He did love

712
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: to have guards do things. He is reduced to a

713
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: pathetic drifter. Um that that also sounds like Mussolini. To

714
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: be honest, I mean a lot a lot of this

715
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: is tracking to Tojo is like living alone in a

716
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: house that he created where he has like a Shinto

717
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: shrine to himself. Also tracks does kind of sound like Tojoe. Okay,

718
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: when he meets Lee, he cries and were cants after

719
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: hearing about Reverend Moon's teachings. So and then gets that

720
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: does not sound like that. That does not So meets

721
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: Jesus at one point, and Jesus is incredibly grateful that

722
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: Moon like has him married to some spirit and then

723
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: he says that like he says that he doesn't like.

724
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: Jesus is like, yeah, I don't deserve Moon's love. But

725
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: he's incredibly mad that people are focusing on the crucifixion.

726
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: Gets better because that is so bold. That is so

727
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: mad that people are focusing on the Crucifixion and not

728
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: the Washington Times, which is actually the most important thing.

729
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: That God is doing on Earth because the Washington Times

730
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: Moons is Moon's outlet. Jesus stuff started talking about my

731
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: brutal murder by the state and start talking about this

732
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: fucking tablet. It's it does. I would love it if

733
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: Christ came back and did so primarily to sell subscriptions

734
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: to the New York Examiner or like the fucking what

735
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: do you call it? The what's the what's the what's

736
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: the fake newspaper? The famous one ship. This would have

737
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: been funny if I don't yeah whatever, and that that

738
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: wasn't the one in my mind National Inquirer. Yeah yeah,

739
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: all right, well I botched it. Please continue. So the

740
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: last person that he finds Houston. He finds a lot

741
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: of people, but he finds Hitler, and Hitler is tied good.

742
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: I was wondering. There is tight eagle spread to a

743
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: tree with a sign pinned to his chest that says

744
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: King of the Nazis, and all the Jews that he

745
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: killed are throwing bricks at him. No. See that doesn't

746
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 1: sound like a great afterlife for all. So Moon sees

747
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: this and he's like, no, stop this. He's like, well, okay,

748
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: so all these Jews can't like move on with their

749
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: with their lives, right because because of the Holocaust, and

750
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: because you know if Hitler, I mean that does sound

751
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: like a bad situation is kind of messed up for

752
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: him to imagine that his solution to this is for

753
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: giving Hitler so that quote a Jewish version can go

754
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: to heaven. And yeah, yes, what he forgives Whitler because

755
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: he is the spiritual drain in the sink preventing all

756
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: the Jews from going to heaven. And this is where

757
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: I should mention this Moon and like like the Unification

758
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: Church is like like structurally anti Semitic, like on a

759
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: level that sounds pretty anti semitic to me. Chris. He

760
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: has said. Moon has said multiple times in multiple places that, uh,

761
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: that Jews are responsible for the Holocaust because they killed Jesus,

762
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: which is like literally the oldest anti Semitic attack. I

763
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: thought it wasn't as big a deal as the Washington died.

764
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: Apparently it is. It's enough of the deal that yeah,

765
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: it's he's blaming the Jews for the Holocaust because they

766
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: killed Jesus. And then uh, yeah, he you know, he

767
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: says it's a lot and he also he has a

768
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: lot of things that he said, they're just like really bad.

769
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: Like he says that gay people are done eating dogs,

770
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: will be exterminated by God. Um. So, yeah, there's a lot,

771
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like stuff like this. He's also

772
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, so so in his actual cult, he has

773
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: like one of the big things he does. He has

774
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: all of his followers like spend eighteen hours a day

775
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: selling flowers for him. And you know, okay, so that

776
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: there's there's there's enormous pressure. You know this this this

777
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: is all your normal cult stuff, right. You have you

778
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: have your norse question not to leave, You have your

779
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: labor exploitation, you have your like you're stuck in this cult.

780
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: You have your marriage stuff. And so this is this

781
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: is the story, you know. And you know that they

782
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: have their battle with the D programers in the seventies.

783
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: And when I was running this episode, this is what

784
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: I thought this episode was going to be about. But

785
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: it turns out that while all of this stuff is

786
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: real and it's happening and it's important, this is not

787
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: the real story of Song Young Moon. That story the

788
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: story of how a Korean CIA influence operation and the

789
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: fascist wing of the Yaksa helped turn a minor Korean

790
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: cult into a world class anti communist political organization that

791
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: funded desk squads in twelve countries uh and built a

792
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: modern religious right. Started starts with a coup in nineteen

793
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: sixty one. Yeah, we'll get through all. So in nineteen

794
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: sixty enough rising by Korean students and workers finally overthrew

795
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: the horrific dictatorship of siegmund Re. Now they're they're heroic

796
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: struggle gets them exactly one year. Actually, I think it's

797
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: less than a year of democracy before Park Chunky, an

798
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: incredibly fascist military officer like No Suk Kishi met Park

799
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: Chunky after like after Parach and he took power, and

800
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: even Kei she was like, hey, you can't say that

801
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: fascist stuff anymore, like you're you're he's so fascist that Kishi,

802
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: like the arch Japanese fascist war criminal, was like, dude,

803
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: you gott to tone it down. And so she takes

804
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: power um in this coup, and this coup is masterminded

805
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: in large part by an army officer and politician named

806
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: Kim Jung Pill Pill. His name is his name is

807
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: Kim Jung Pill. That does sound like a joke had

808
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: gotten He's one of the worst people in Korean history.

809
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 1: He's famous for. So he he leads a political party

810
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: after there's the revolution and you get democracy back um,

811
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: and he he has he has a he manages to

812
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: get himself installed as prime ministers through a bunch of

813
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: backroom dealing, even though he had a four percent approval rating.

814
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: So he's incredibly widely hitted um. Now Bye. Moon's church

815
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: is firmly embedded in the army. Bohey Pawk, last seen

816
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: stealing a baby from his mother's arms and raising him

817
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: as his own son, has the same rank in the

818
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: army as Kim Jung Pill. Another Mooney is is Kim

819
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: Jung Pills close close lieutenant and translator and assistance, and

820
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: several other Moonies also become translators for Kim Jung Pill. Now,

821
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: it's unclear to me whether Moon knew this coup was happening,

822
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: that there's no direct evidence that he did, but it's

823
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: it's it seems kind of likely because there's so many

824
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: people who are in Moon's inner circle who are also

825
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: in the inner circle of the coup plotters in the

826
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: army that it's it's there's a pretty good chance that

827
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: he that he knew that this coup was going to happen.

828
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: What we do know for certain is that Kim Jung

829
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: Pill founded the Korean CIA, which is like it's like

830
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: the regular American CIA, except they also they're also the

831
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: internal secret Police, which is the role to the regular

832
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: CIA normally delegates to the FBI. But you know, they

833
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: hooked out dissidence. They kill them. They're extremely bad, and

834
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: several very high profile Moonies get jobs in the new

835
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: military tatorship. That seems like a bad call. I'm just

836
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: gonna reject that right now. Great um and sixty two,

837
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: Kim Jong Pill has a meeting with Bohipok where he

838
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: decides to use the Moonies, who by this point how

839
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: spread to the US as a way to run influence

840
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: operations on American politicians. Now, the result of this alliance

841
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: is that the Unification Church gets legal status and recognition

842
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: as a religion in Korean nixt two and a whole

843
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: bunch of Moonies wind up in the Korean embassy staff

844
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: in the US. So this is going great. Yeah, this

845
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: is I mean, there's a there's a level to which

846
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: is it is kind of nice because we talked so

847
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: much on this show about influence operations that the United

848
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: States ran in other countries to like funk with their

849
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: government and their media. And you know some now people

850
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: talk about like Russia doing that some, but we is good.

851
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: I love. I've never heard about much about influence operations

852
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: in the United States, Robert. Do you know who else

853
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: is running an influence operation on the United States? Um?

854
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: Is that the Washington State Highway Patrol. Yeah? That that

855
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: that that scans. Yeah, it is. But it's also it's

856
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: also the product services that support this show, of which

857
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: to Washington State Patrol is one really our main sponsor.

858
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: We're back, boy, howdy, I love supporting the Washington State

859
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: Highway Patrol Industrial. Seriously, you can't even I know, I

860
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: know it's Chris. Please continue. Okay, So when we left off,

861
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: Moon Moon has gotten embassy status UM by by embedding

862
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of people in the Korean embassy in the US.

863
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: And they're able to use the status in recognition and

864
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: you know, and and the recognition of the Unification Church

865
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: as your religion in Korea to start getting legal recognition

866
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: in the US. And once they established themselves in the US,

867
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: they found something Moon particulars is you know, directly involved

868
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: in this. They found link called the Korean Cultural and

869
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: Freedom Foundation or the k c F, the first of well,

870
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the first. It's the first

871
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: American version of the many many, many, many, many, many, many, many,

872
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: many insufferable numbers of Unification Front Unification Church friend groups.

873
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: Now the k c S s. The k c F

874
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: does two things. It acts as a slush funds and

875
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: a front group for the Unification Church, and it runs

876
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: the Korean dance group called the Little Angels. Now, boy,

877
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: this this is gonna go a really bad place, isn't it. Okay,

878
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: so it's probably not as bad as what you think

879
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: is going to go, but it's not. It's weirder and

880
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: not good either. Now, a lot of the people in

881
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: in the in you know, this Korean Cultural Foundation, like

882
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: they don't understand there's a church friend group, which is

883
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: a common thing. There's a lot of people in church

884
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: friend groups. You don't understand what's happening. And with the

885
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: k CF, some of these people actually find out in

886
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: the in the seventies and they all get purged. But

887
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: in the nights of sixties, this seems like, you know,

888
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: this seems like an innocuous like Korean cultural group running

889
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: a Korean straditional dance group. And you know for people

890
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: who follow cults like yeah, this this is basically the

891
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: Following Gong shen you forty years earlier, but there's too

892
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: important different The Falling Gong or the is the cult

893
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: that is responsible for all of those those uh billboards

894
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: in cities that are like China before community some lady dancing. Yeah,

895
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: it's it's a weird right wing cold this is this

896
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: is this is like the O G version of this,

897
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: except there's two differences, and one of them is that

898
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: the Little Angels are directly sponsored by the Korean government,

899
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: so it's like the Blue Angels, but little girls instead

900
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: of aircraft and the sect. The second difference is that

901
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: Bohei Pok is using the Little Angels to smuggle money

902
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: from Korean Japan into the US by stuffing the kids

903
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: socks full of cash, just like the Blue Angels, Every

904
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: single Blue Angel flown by a child, just just moving

905
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: wads and wads and bills across the world. It's it's great.

906
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: So the cash of the Little Angels are smuggling come

907
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: from too important sources. One is Moon's chable um tables.

908
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: Are these these Korean super conglomerates that basically dominated the

909
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: Korean economy, and she just has one um and he

910
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: has one of these conglomerates because Moon he's able to

911
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: set one up in three presumably what's helped from his

912
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: like allies in the military dictatorship. And this is the

913
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: start of a massive economic empire that gets built up

914
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: in Korea. They have a pharmaceutical company, a stone company,

915
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: and titanium company. They make M sixteens for the Korean army.

916
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: They make milcan vulcan minie guns. They make the M

917
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: seventy nine grenade launcher uh and and and they also

918
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: make air guns that are used by Korean children from

919
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: military training. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because this is the yeah,

920
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: but this is this is well, I mean, if you're

921
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: going to train kids with guns, give me an air first,

922
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, don't go right to a They make those

923
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: and and this this is just the that's just the

924
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: early stuff in Korea. Moon has literally hundreds of businesses

925
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: across the world that bringing hundreds of billions of dollars

926
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: a year and a hundreds of millions of dollars a year. Now.

927
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: The other important source of funding is the rapidly expanding

928
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: church in Japan, which is the financial empire of the cults,

929
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: and there is a lot of ways that the do fundraising.

930
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: Fundraising in Japan, one of the big ones is they

931
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: run the science scam, so they have a bunch of

932
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 1: lawyers and they target people who just got life insurance payouts,

933
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: and that they have all these mystics around the country,

934
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: and the mystics pretend to be able to channel their

935
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: loved ones who like inevitably say that, like, no, the

936
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: only way I can find pieces if you give money

937
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: to this mystic or like the church or one of

938
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: the friend groups, and they make like like hundreds of

939
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: like they'll they'll take an entire life insurance. They'll make

940
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars off of just individual ones

941
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: these scams. And yeah, the other source of funding is

942
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: actually an old friend of the show. But before we

943
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: can get to him, we need to talk about the

944
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: World Anti Communist League. But yeah, they're one of the

945
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: worst organizations in human history. Uh. The World Anti Communist

946
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: League was founded in the nineteen sixty six out of

947
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: the fusion of two other anti communist groups, the Asian

948
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: People's Anti Communist League and the Anti Bullshevik League. Of

949
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: a block of nations. So the anti Bullshevik block of

950
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: nations is basically an alliance of like the Romanian Iron Guard,

951
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: the creation New STATSI, and then like a bunch of

952
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: other Nazi collaborators like people who do gen sides and

953
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: the whole. Yeah, there's there's a quote from the leader

954
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: of the Eustaci who's like a true member of the

955
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: Eustazi is the man who can carve a carve a

956
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: child out of the mother's room with a bayonet. So

957
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: these are great people. Yeah, the Austazi is like of

958
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: the Nazis, one of the worst kids. You know, people say,

959
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: people say this a lot about Nazis, but it's like,

960
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: like these are the guys. Even the even like even

961
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: the SS looked at them and we're like this is

962
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: a bit much. It's I mean, it's like consistently happens,

963
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: whatever is going on, when it gets out to the Balkans,

964
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: that's when it finds its most like it's ultimate form.

965
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: By the time anything makes cigarettes fascism, by the time

966
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: they hit the Balkans, they are the best version of themselves.

967
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: So that that that's that's one of the two groups.

968
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: The Asian People's anti Communist League is basically like a

969
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: creation of the intelligence services of the military dictatorships of

970
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: Taiwan and South Korea, and in the nineteen sixty six

971
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: they do they do a fusion dance and the World

972
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: Anti Communist League is born. Now in Steen sixty seven,

973
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: Moon has a meeting with two old friends of the

974
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: Pod from a Nova Sukakishi episode. Uh yohe Sasakawa. The

975
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: Yaka is a boss who created the Japanese Japanese Blackshirt

976
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: rip off and then visited Bussolini before getting off in

977
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: his war crimer Stribunal and becoming the self described quote

978
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: richest fascist alive throughout the risk control of the underworld

979
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: and monopoly at speedboat gambling. And the other guy is

980
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: uh Yoshio Kodama. The Yaka is a boss who escaped

981
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: his own war crime stribunial to fund the funded Liberal

982
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: Democratic Party at Keshi's rise to power, and then also

983
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: notably survived a kamikaze attack on his house in nineteen seventy. Jesus,

984
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: it's it's this. This episode is like the Bastard's Pod

985
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: reunion episode. Like like everyone who's ever been on this show,

986
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna be here. So together with these two fascists,

987
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: Moon creates the International Federation for Victory Over Communism and

988
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: it's Japanese branch, Shoko Rerengo, which basically be the Victory

989
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: Over Communism UM. Now Shoko RNGO is basically a combination

990
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: of Unification Church members and dudes from the Yakuza, with

991
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: Sasakaua as its head and Kotoman as an advisor. And

992
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: this alliance betue the church in the Yakaza provides the

993
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: church with you know, enforcers for a Japanese operation. Is

994
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: also how they're able to do all these scams in

995
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: Japan because like normally normally in orders, if you know,

996
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: if you're if you're running scams that are like you're

997
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: taking a hundred thousand dollars for someone, right, like you

998
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: have to have Yakasa permission. And this this is how

999
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: they get ya permission, so like run crime in Japan,

1000
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: and they also get acts to Sasakaua's enormous stores of money.

1001
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: And on the other hand, Sasakowa gets legitimacy on the

1002
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: political stage for you know, his his role as an

1003
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: anti communist politician. Now, Shoko Reno almost immediately becomes the

1004
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: Japanese branch of the World Anti Communist League and they

1005
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: hold the next uh. They hold the next one of

1006
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: the League's meetings at Sasakawa's boat boat Racing Rage in

1007
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: Kyoto with full Moody supports. Now Moon the movie has

1008
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: moved into a new office in Japan on land that

1009
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: they that they bought from one Nobu Sua Kishi, who

1010
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: also openly supports Choka Rengo. And he's the guy. I

1011
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: think it's like the last thing we said in our

1012
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: episode about him is he's the guy. He integrats the

1013
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: Unification Church into the Liberal Democratic Party, so they're just

1014
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: like a part of the Japanese establishment. Now it's great,

1015
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: it's it's a good time. That's wonderful. Um cool, it

1016
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: sounds fun like I I really just want to keep

1017
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: mentioning this that this organization's goal is Reverend moom taking

1018
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: over the world and establishing a global theocracy with him

1019
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: as the head of it, like that, that's that's what

1020
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: this thing is. And they keep getting integrated into the

1021
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: ruling class of the political parties that run like major

1022
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: industrialized nations. It's it's very cool and good. Now with

1023
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: with with these powerful backers, a sophisticated organizational capacity. Uh,

1024
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: the Moon he spread like wildfire. Moving into the nineteen seventies.

1025
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: Moon gives like probably my favorite Moon quote about his operations.

1026
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: I really keep the FBI busy trying to keep track

1027
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: of me. After the Washington Monument rally, their biggest question

1028
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: was what in the world I would do next? Even

1029
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: Satan is saying, what is Reverend Mood's next move? Where

1030
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: should I take my big guns? But most important is

1031
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: even God is asking where are you going next? My

1032
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: plan is clear and simple. I am inexorably moving towards

1033
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: the absolute center of the universe. So this guy's got

1034
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: a little limit. I mean, he's he's like, he's he's

1035
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: not just doing like the Beatles were bigger than Jesus

1036
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: offhanded thing. He's like, No, let me explain to you

1037
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: the ways in which God has impressed and baffled by me.

1038
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: It's really incredible. No, the center would be inexorable center.

1039
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: The absolute center of the universe turns out to be

1040
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: the u s where a Moon moves to an eighteen

1041
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: acre state called East Garden in the Hudson River Valley.

1042
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: Now this place is nuts um. Here's the here' description

1043
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: of it from the New Republic. His wife and children,

1044
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: who now numbered thirteen, had run of East Garden and

1045
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: it's lavish manner, some of which one of which contained

1046
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: a bowling alleys, six pizza ovens, and a waterfall in

1047
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: the dining room. You know. While in the US, Moon

1048
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: starts running influence operations for the Korean CIA. One of

1049
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: those operations, it turns out, is funding the Heritage Foundation.

1050
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 1: So Ed Fulner, who is the Heritage Foundation's co founder,

1051
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: writes for one of the Moon's newsletters in the seventies,

1052
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: and the Foundation, at like the very beginning of its existence,

1053
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: gets to point two million dollars of k c A

1054
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: A money through one of Moon's front groups rules maybe

1055
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 1: this guy is the center of the Moon. Moon begins

1056
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: to develop just like an incredibly sophisticated network of allies

1057
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: and the new Conservative rights. One of those figures is

1058
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: the infamously racist Strum Thurman, who solves one of Moon's Yeah,

1059
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: he solves one of the Moon's visa issues. So moons

1060
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: about to be kicked out of the country at night

1061
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: seventy four because his visas up and strump Thurman, who

1062
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: had become a Moon supporter through a meeting of the

1063
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: World Anti Communist League. It's just like, now, I'll just

1064
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: fix this for you, And so he's able to stay

1065
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: in the US man, yeah and so so Strump, thanks,

1066
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: but one time, you're not racist for this? You know,

1067
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: this is from the room becomes Moon's like one of

1068
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: his first allies on Capitol Hill. But Moon mood is

1069
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: not content with one senator helping him out with Watergate breaking.

1070
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: Moon sees his chance to get Richard Nixon on his side.

1071
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: So inten seventy three, Moon creates the National Prayer and

1072
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: Fast Committee to support nixon dream Watergate and stage protests

1073
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: and like they bought a bunch of ads, like like

1074
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: they do this pro Nixon thing. They have this protest

1075
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: that's always where it starts with these like right wing

1076
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: ghoules too, Like that was the first time they did

1077
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: the thing that they had been doing for a while

1078
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 1: and actually faced consequences, and they were like, we gotta

1079
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: re engineer the entire world so that that never happens again. Yeah.

1080
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: So they hold this protest outside of the White House

1081
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: and Nixon's giving a speech and they like storm the

1082
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: barricades and interrupt the speech. To like shout support for him,

1083
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: and this gets Moon and meeting with Nixon in einteen

1084
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: seventy four, which makes Nixon one of six presidents to

1085
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: either meet with or support Moon his organist nations, which

1086
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: and again I kind of emphasize this enough. He's dedicated

1087
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: to taking over the world and crowding Moon as a

1088
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: theocratic god king. It's great six presidents, most of whom

1089
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: are still alive. The church also started running another series

1090
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: of k CIA operations, including staging protests to support the

1091
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: interests of the South Korean dictatorship, and a wide ranging

1092
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: operation to bribe hundreds of congressmen and infiltrate their offices

1093
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: by having pretty young women hang around their offices until

1094
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: they get a job. And this like finally, like at

1095
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 1: the point where they're literally running intelligence operations on members

1096
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: of Congress, is like finally where the government gets involved. Okay,

1097
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: well it's good, so so Donald M. Fraser, who is

1098
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: the Representative of Minnesota, launches an investigation into the into

1099
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: the kCi, into k CIA operations in the US, to

1100
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: the Subcommittee and international organizations. Now Fraser discovers just an

1101
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: enormous tangle of Mooney and k CIA money moving through

1102
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: front groups. Uh, he finds an attempt to buy at

1103
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: a bank and do you money laundering? A bunch of

1104
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: people just like stuffing wads of cash and in the briefcases,

1105
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: three senators off offices infiltrated, massive task evasion, and a

1106
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: plan my Moon to use his businesses in Church to

1107
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: conquer the US. Now, this scandal becomes known as Korea Gates.

1108
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: And despite multiple requests by Frasier in the committee, and

1109
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, and then this this thing is this is

1110
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: a bi partisan committee right like that, and both the

1111
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans are like, hey, you need to do

1112
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: something about this guy. And nothing happens because you know,

1113
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: South Korea by this point is too important of an

1114
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: American ally for them to for the U S to

1115
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: do literally anything about it running influence operations in the US. Yeah,

1116
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean, and what are you gonna do? They're all

1117
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: wrapped around our domestic politics too, like what do you do?

1118
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: What do you what? What would you actually do? I

1119
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, they could have don't let people

1120
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: make colds anywhere, but that's not clearly not a reasonable

1121
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: thing to what. Now, what does actually happen as a

1122
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: result of this, the Moon to create declares that Frasier

1123
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: is a communist and spends an enormous amount of money

1124
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: to defeat Frasier and his run for Senate, which Frasier

1125
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: winds up losing by a few votes. Now, a few

1126
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: nights later, someone tries to burn down his house. Uh,

1127
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: no one's ever caught for this. Yeah, it's great that

1128
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: that the the only thing that happens related investigation. Yeah.

1129
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: So meanwhile Moon is searching the entire world for investment opportunities.

1130
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: It begins a massive rush into Latin America. He poured

1131
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: over a hundred million dollars into into Uruguay but nineteen

1132
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: seventy nine, which resulted in Uruguay's military dictatorship signing a

1133
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: massive arms deal with South Korea and Low One and

1134
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: Behold companies in South Korea get a bunch of the contracts. Now,

1135
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: it's fun. Uh, we've talked about what the Uroquane, Irrograine

1136
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: and military to katorship did your Entreprenmorrow's episode, So we're

1137
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: gonna skip over that. But Moon is a close ally

1138
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: of the dictatorship, a pattern that is so regular that

1139
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: you could literally track which countries have military to katorships.

1140
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: But when Moon starts getting close to the government, like

1141
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: I have done this while researching episodes, probably like when

1142
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: there's dictatorship start and I have moved written down going there,

1143
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, I know when this happened. Now, yeah,

1144
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: And some of it's influenced in the situation. Some of it.

1145
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: He's a smart motherfucker and he's like, well, you look

1146
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: like you might be about to take over. I should

1147
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: probably get in good with your ass. We'll get into

1148
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: more of that next episode. But right now, when you

1149
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: talk about something extremely important fish, yes, now, like the

1150
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: band right that I've followed for seven years in the

1151
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: Sea that Swim, I'm not familiar with the concepts of

1152
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: the something something you are familiar with that that you

1153
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: are well aware of. Is that all great cult leaders

1154
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: hear the call of the sea. Yes, that is true.

1155
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: And in nineteen and Moon gives a speech called the

1156
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: Way of the Tuna, which which I'm going to read

1157
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: a bit of of Oh hell, yes, this is this

1158
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: sounds good. This is sounding good. Have the entire system

1159
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: worked out, starting with boat building. After we build the boats,

1160
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: we catch the fish and process them for markets, and

1161
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: then have a distribution network. This is not just on

1162
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: a drawing board. I have already done it. In the

1163
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: same speech, and Moon calls himself the king of the

1164
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: Ocean and dope, dope, dope. I mean, you know, I

1165
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: I he's gonna have to go pretty hard to beat

1166
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: the the the current owner of that title, our buddy

1167
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: l Round Hubbard. But I'm willing to listen to So

1168
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: this is the beginning. Well, but I think it's already going.

1169
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: But this is this is sort of the origin point

1170
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: of Moon's attempt to build an enormous fleet of boats

1171
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: take over the American fishing industry. So he buys a

1172
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: boat company. See, I do I have to give him.

1173
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to take points away for having such crash

1174
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: finance crash financial ins l Ron Hubbard didn't take to

1175
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: the sea and build a navy to make money. He

1176
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: took to the sea and made a navy in order

1177
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: to get twenty year olds to search for gold he

1178
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: buried in a past life that he knew wasn't there

1179
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: moons like state justification for this is that he wants

1180
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: to feed the entire world by getting a bunch of fish.

1181
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: I think I think it is a lesser fishing expedition

1182
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,959
Speaker 1: than Hubbard's, but it's still I think incredibly impressive. Um

1183
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: that that that does show an amazing like amount of

1184
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: faith in the ocean's ability to keep making fish. It's

1185
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. Why we'll get into a bit of what

1186
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: happens there. So this he buys she just like buys

1187
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: a boat company and then uses the boat company to

1188
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:02,959
Speaker 1: make boats for this fleet. And you put a million

1189
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: dollars into it. And this operation is the beginning of

1190
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: the Great Moody Fleet. And it's called the True World Group.

1191
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: And you know, in classic cult fashionist founders like sleep

1192
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: in these communal apartments and you know that they were

1193
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: horrendous hours for like fish fishing dream and it worked. Uh,

1194
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, here's so much Chicago Tribune. True World is

1195
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: so ubiquitous that fourteen of seventeen prominent Chicago sushi restaurants

1196
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: surveyed by the Tribune said they were supplied by the company. Now,

1197
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: because it's a capitalist enterprise and a cult, they immediately

1198
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: start doing crimes. Uh there. Yeah, So the Alaska branch

1199
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: he has convicted of a felony for going like enormously

1200
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: over the boats carrying boats carrying capacity and endangering the

1201
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: crew by having a boat that is like enormously too

1202
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: heavy to float. I gotta say, I respect though, we're

1203
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: not just going to endanger the ability of the ocean

1204
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: to continues to support life. We're going to endanger fishermen

1205
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: to you know what, both at once. Not only that,

1206
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: they are also going to endanger everyone who eats this fish.

1207
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: So when when when pod alumnized? The Food and Drug

1208
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: Administration tried to inspect a warehouse in Detroit in two

1209
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: thousand five. They found quote gross and unsanitary conditions. Now

1210
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: the manager tries to keep the inspectors out and says

1211
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: that his supervisor was quote a great man, that he

1212
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: was part of a new religion, and if we took

1213
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: advantage of him, then God help you. From the Tribune again. Later,

1214
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: according to that FBI report, an employee wearing a ski

1215
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: mask approach one female inspector, put his thumb in four

1216
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: finger in the shape of a gun, pointed at her

1217
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: and said, pow, you're out of uniform. They're just threatening.

1218
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: They're just threatening the f f T It's great. I mean,

1219
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: I think most of what we know about the f

1220
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: d A is that they're probably gonna just take it

1221
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: and basically no. So, you know, the fd has done

1222
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: like an enormous number of terrible crimes, but they are

1223
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: not on the pig the pay roll of big Fish.

1224
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: So they try to come back to and inspect this

1225
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: facility again. They think they get a court order and

1226
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, we're gonna come inspect this facility, and

1227
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: the movies are just like, okay, we'll just shut it

1228
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: down instead of dealing with this because they're doing so

1229
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: many crimes that they were like, yeah, okay, we will

1230
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: lose this entire facility rather than have the FDA inspect

1231
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: it one time. Now, the other part of this scheme

1232
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: is that they're they're they're basically attempting to use you know,

1233
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: those mass wedding ceremonies. They're trying to use them to

1234
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: get the Japanese members of the church, who are like

1235
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: the most committed members of the church citizenship so they

1236
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: can bypass American fishing restrictions about who can fish in

1237
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: American waters. Now, this is kind of a problem because

1238
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: for a long time, like Moon's weddings weren't considered legally

1239
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: binding weddings. That makes sense because he's just a guy

1240
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: because he's just a guy. So and like mass weddings

1241
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: that might not be recognized by law because it maybe

1242
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: the laws like well you have to you know, there's

1243
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: like papers. I think eventually they start getting considered actual marriages.

1244
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: But like this this plan doesn't really work. Yeah, it

1245
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 1: seems like they have to be a process, you would.

1246
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: But the problem is that even without this sort of

1247
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: like the influx of Japanese fisherman, this works um and

1248
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, you have this interesting mix of the you know,

1249
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: so some people who are working for this fishing company

1250
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 1: are like in the could, some of them aren't. And

1251
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, there's this whole thing inside the company where

1252
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: like the people who are in the could get promoted

1253
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: fashion and people who aren't in the cult kind of

1254
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: get like subtenly or like hey take this like propaganda thing.

1255
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: But this, like this fishing group takes over the fishing industry,

1256
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: like like in in in two thou five alone, the

1257
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: True World Group made two d and fifty million dollars. Yeah,

1258
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: and again like like h fifteen of nineteen sushi restaurants

1259
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: that Chicago Tribune interviewed were like, yeah, no, we buy

1260
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: our fish from the Moone's it's like yeah, I mean,

1261
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: like so they have operations in all fifty states, and

1262
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: it's very similar in everywhere else because they've they've seized

1263
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: control of the American fishing industry. That that on on

1264
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: on this somewhat happy note, uh with with with you know,

1265
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Speaker 1: the great Mooney Fleet thriving and Moon's call to the

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Speaker 1: Sea fulfilled. We're gonna leave it today and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: come back next time to see Moon fund to horrific

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Speaker 1: series of war crimes the name of world peace. Well,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, Chris, it takes a lot for me

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Speaker 1: to be impressed by a cult leader. But this, this guy,

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Speaker 1: this guy is pretty good. Later got and given to him.

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Speaker 1: You haven't seen shipped from Moon yet. Like this is

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Speaker 1: this this old this is the warm up intro. Actually

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Speaker 1: he's lay in the bones, he's putting down the foundation

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Speaker 1: so he can he can really really do some crimes. Baby. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is my favorite part when the cult leaders at

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Speaker 1: the top of the fucking roller coaster and you just

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Speaker 1: know they're about to go zero Gene baby, Chris, thank you?

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Speaker 1: Do you have anything to plug? Who? What do you do?

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Speaker 1: Who are you work? I work I work for Sophie

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Speaker 1: uh media I work on it could happen here, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Some other stuff. I'm on Twitter at hit me c

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Speaker 1: h R three. I do that. I have a novel.

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Speaker 1: You can preorder it now if you Google After the

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Speaker 1: Revolution on a k Press you can. You can go

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Speaker 1: buy it and then you will have a signed copy

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Speaker 1: of my novel that's printed on paper. Wow. Wow