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Speaker 3: The World's a big podcast.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 5: Matthew Judon and I are roughly the same age. Matthew

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Speaker 5: Judaan like, I'm just I'm just like what wait what.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean he's not getting any younger. He's

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Speaker 3: Alex's age.

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Speaker 5: I know National podcast.

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Speaker 3: Podcast because I like to ye my bag baby, that's

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Speaker 3: what I was playing with my favor anywhere. I bet

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Speaker 5: And then the end scene with with Vader and the

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Speaker 5: whole thing. I just love the movie boilers for Polastic.

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Speaker 6: I've never seen a single Star Wars movie and I'm

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Speaker 6: twenty eight, so it's not like I'm young. Camarene, matt

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Speaker 6: Induce and everybody else. Explain why one day I should

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Speaker 6: watch them.

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Speaker 7: You don't appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I don't want you to watch it. Go somewhere else that,

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Speaker 8: Doom exact decision that one.

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Speaker 7: Don't get me that they turned the lightsaber blue instead

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Speaker 7: of white.

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Speaker 3: Really it's clearly worse, but I'm just saying, like.

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Speaker 4: This is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 7: Fueled by Duncan.

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Speaker 4: All right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. I can't hear myself,

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Speaker 4: but can you guys hear me?

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Speaker 3: Okay? All right?

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Speaker 4: For some reason I can't hear me. All Right, I'm

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Speaker 4: just gonna keep going. Hopefully the world can hear us.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 4: It is Tuesday here at Jillette Stadium, and uh we

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Speaker 4: are live two o'clock.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of going to do there. I am now

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Speaker 6: I here. Kind of when you do the COVID shows

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Speaker 6: and you can't hear yourself and you try to do

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Speaker 6: jokes and it just feels like it falls flat. It's

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Speaker 6: hard when you can't hear yourself in your own headset, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I need more music and the monitor?

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Speaker 8: Is that what that means?

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Speaker 4: I can hear cow bell? All right?

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Speaker 3: But it is I don't think I can hear it is.

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Speaker 4: It's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, it's Matisse and faith

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Speaker 4: in the booth and we have faith that you can

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Speaker 3: Those faith punts never get old. Tell me I try

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Speaker 3: one every show.

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Speaker 4: Where's Matt?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Where I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I don't know where man is everything.

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Speaker 4: Can I hear? I hear everything? A waller? Did he

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It looks kind of a wall in here with all

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Speaker 3: the chords and stuff. That's the problem. Like this has

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Speaker 3: nothing to do with Matisa. The Revs have coming dear at.

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Speaker 4: The studio in their open cup game destroyed everything, so.

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Speaker 4: This anyway, all right, but we're gonna talk about Patriots.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna talk Patriot. It's on like last Thursday when

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Speaker 4: it was May fourth, And I'm okay with the talk.

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Speaker 4: I'm just you know, talking about Star Wars.

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Speaker 8: But like you gotta live it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like from what I understand, uh you need

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Speaker 4: it's someone who note knew Star Wars.

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Speaker 8: You didn't like Evan's rankings. I feel like Evan needs

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Speaker 8: to read all his rankings.

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Speaker 4: Evan's rankings were fine, thank you, but not that I

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Speaker 8: Because he watched the film. I mean, he had watched

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Speaker 4: Everyone he watched all eleven Yeah, everyone has their own opinions.

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Speaker 5: Two my my original Trilogy box set, Return of the Jedi,

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Speaker 4: We've got some availability today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna pop over Chris Bord, Jawant Bentley, little

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Speaker 4: Flavor Special Team. So okay, go check on. So we'll

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Speaker 4: have that today and we'll have that up on Patriots

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Speaker 4: dot com after the fact. We've got the schedule release

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Speaker 4: on Thursday, and boy, what does that become? You know,

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Speaker 3: The social media super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: this is almost like the social media super Bowl, right,

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Speaker 6: and she's like, well, I guess, but I would much

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Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, we'd like the super Bowl to be there where.

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Speaker 3: It's like I thought there was some other teams that

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Speaker 3: Atlanta, I believe, was one of the ones that I

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Speaker 4: They were the ones. I think they did the Game

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Speaker 4: the animation must have cost him a boatload, you know,

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Speaker 4: so they you know, they really take it seriously. I mean,

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Speaker 8: Know, that's right? Yeah, twenty eight to three memes?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for them, it is the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: And they did talk about like a lot of them

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Speaker 8: And social media was just like the fact that.

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Speaker 3: And I have no doubt that that was a lot

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Speaker 8: We need this thing.

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Speaker 4: But the fact that the Chargers have a burn book,

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Speaker 4: did you hear that?

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Speaker 4: I love that they have a burn book of of

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Speaker 4: had Urban Meyer as the you know, the Jaguar and

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Speaker 4: I missed that, to be honest. When I watched the anime.

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Speaker 3: I they talked about the Easter eggs and that was

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Speaker 3: second time they showed it, I didn't like the first

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Speaker 3: But I agree with Fred. I think they listen. We

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Speaker 3: gonna not really pass muster here, and some other teams

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Speaker 3: the Saints and Falcons kill each other in social media

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Speaker 3: because they hate each other. I don't think we necessarily

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Speaker 4: A punching down. Paul. You know, you don't want to

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Speaker 3: Oh, I agree. I agree. It's not a rivalry unless

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Speaker 3: you lose. But the Chargers, like Fred said, they have

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Speaker 3: like a whole dust of things that they weren't allowed

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Speaker 4: Like at first, I thought, oh, it's a burn book.

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Speaker 4: Whatever's in here, you got to burn it, But no,

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Speaker 8: It's mean we're.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, so that's coming Thursday night at eight o'clock.

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Speaker 4: And yes, the Patriots will have their own video that

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Speaker 4: we're going to be releasing. We're very excited about it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to give away anything.

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to say a word.

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Speaker 4: Well you tried.

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Speaker 8: I did, wait, I did. I mentioned that there were people.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's animated.

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Speaker 3: How does it feel like this is? This is your

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Speaker 3: example of making noise when there was a shoot that

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Speaker 3: was our he done anyway? You know, so much so

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Speaker 3: that I made the Blooper wheel. Yeah, so can we

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Speaker 3: talk about the possibility of maybe a little news before Thursday? Right?

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Speaker 3: You got we should know?

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Speaker 4: We should morrow probably when or who our Germany game

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Speaker 6: I did the six Rings this morning and they asked me, oh,

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Speaker 6: with the schedule. I'm like, I don't know if it's

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Speaker 6: just because I'm getting old, but it's just like when

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Speaker 6: Like I'm just excited to hear, like what's the preseason

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Speaker 6: to figure out that's where we're going, what we're doing.

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Speaker 5: That's why it shocks me so much that fans get

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Speaker 5: so revved up for the schedule release, because for for us,

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Speaker 5: I will fully admit, not to say that it don't

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Speaker 5: feel bad for me, but it's the next five months

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Speaker 5: of our lives that are planned out, you know, ahead

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Speaker 5: of time, and what the when of the prime time games?

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Speaker 5: When's the bye week? Whens Thursday night football?

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Speaker 6: Well you got to see what your what def con

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Speaker 6: your relationship is going to be at exactly schedule?

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Speaker 8: Like how many away gamey?

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Speaker 3: No more difficulty, you know, you probably have more things

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Speaker 3: that you're missing the Black Friday game, Like for you

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Speaker 3: and I Fred, we've been doing it for so long,

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Speaker 3: people just automatically assume, well, a weekend from September to February,

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Speaker 8: The night games, you know, like one are the.

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Speaker 3: And there's a lot of requests they get from teams,

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Speaker 3: The league puts the schedule out for everybody to look at,

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I can't please do it because you can't do

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Speaker 3: Doesn't seem like to be heavy lifting. Another thing Matt

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Speaker 4: Coming out well every except for you know, Sunday night,

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Speaker 3: But the regular slate at one and four, you know,

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Speaker 4: I like that because it really adds clicks to the

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Speaker 6: Is that entirely determined by the NFL? Or does the

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Speaker 5: I believe it's like a draft.

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Speaker 4: To have a lottery.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they have Like, uh, I think it's a draft,

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Speaker 3: In Week two, Fox selects Dallas.

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Speaker 5: At they'll televise that someday and it'll it'll do numbers.

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Speaker 6: Make a wish kid do one of But you're just

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Speaker 3: What are we going to do but the scraps before

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Speaker 8: That's before the season.

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Speaker 3: You see Kansas City. Kansas City plays every like on

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Speaker 4: What happens when you're in first.

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Speaker 3: Right, But but you don't always play all the you know,

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Speaker 4: Peter King also had a story. Kansas City is the

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Speaker 4: I'm like, why, what's the deal? Like, why Chicago? Why

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Speaker 4: Why is that it's so important to play an Arrowhead?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't I don't have an Atlas with me,

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Speaker 5: I had to do that.

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Speaker 4: Thank you make the Bears traveling.

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Speaker 5: One person understands Championship game. Remember the storm that happened

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Speaker 3: Remember that, Yeah, CLINICSNI back on Clinic's dime. Got to

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Speaker 3: The tracks got off in Cincy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, so so that's coming up. We talked

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's upset now that the Patriots drafted

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Speaker 8: Competition, competition, baby brings out the best.

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Speaker 5: He does play some lineback stop it. Yeah, no, I

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Speaker 6: You think, what do you think is the quickest side, though,

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Speaker 4: And I just want to preempt any calls or emails.

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Speaker 4: We have no access to what they're doing and OTAs yet,

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Speaker 8: We only had that was Mini Camp, but I think

445
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Speaker 8: we only had access to two OTAs too.

446
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Speaker 3: That is correct because the way it was set up

447
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,520
Speaker 3: last year, and it's not always set up like this,

448
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 3: they had a group of OTAs, a group of OTAs

449
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,119
Speaker 3: mandatory Mini camp, and a group of OTAs. That's the

450
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Speaker 3: way it was originally set up, and they ended up

451
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Speaker 3: canceling the third of the three days of mini camp,

452
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Speaker 3: and then that last batch of OTAs never happened. I

453
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,199
Speaker 3: don't think for the team. I think he ended it

454
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Speaker 3: at the end of Mini camp and then they went

455
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Speaker 3: on their way.

456
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Speaker 6: It probably could have worked on the offense a little

457
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 6: bit more, but that's just you know, hindsight.

458
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Speaker 12: This.

459
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Speaker 3: Guy is just off. He's so mean.

460
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 5: Just for order of operations purposes this year, the last

461
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,160
Speaker 5: OTA is on the ninth and then mandatory mini camps,

462
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Speaker 5: So maybe they they just more traditionally the way they

463
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 5: they reversed it so they didn't run into the situation

464
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Speaker 5: that Paul.

465
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Speaker 3: Now, there really is no difference between OTA's and mini

466
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 3: camp other than the fact that mini camp, when they

467
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 3: actually call it mini camp, his mandatory right for the

468
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 3: players to be there, right, But they're not doing anything

469
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 3: different on the field than they would do if they

470
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 3: called it an ot A, you know.

471
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Speaker 4: And last pad on the third day mini camp, Bill

472
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,879
Speaker 4: shortened it, and oh, he's going soft, he's going soft.

473
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 3: And evidently Mike just so agrees.

474
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 4: We got in that one found out by league.

475
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 5: Rules running outside the zone, and that.

476
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Speaker 3: Mister star Wars is trying to explain something we.

477
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 4: Found out by league rules. During the three days of

478
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 4: mandatory mini camp, you're allowed twenty four hours with the team,

479
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 4: and you can divvy that up any way you want.

480
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 4: So what Bill decided to do is give them a

481
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Speaker 4: look of what our typical day is, which is ten hours.

482
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Speaker 4: So the first date two days were ten hour days.

483
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Speaker 4: You had four hours left over. They used it for

484
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Speaker 4: whatever on the third day and let him go.

485
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Speaker 3: They went bowling. Yeah, I think they didn't work on

486
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 3: the offense.

487
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 5: Right that we're done there.

488
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 4: So that's the league rule. You're allowed twenty more hoursanatory

489
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Speaker 4: mini camp.

490
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Speaker 3: You know wrong. I didn't say you were wrong. I

491
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 3: just said you would mean.

492
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Speaker 5: With the schedule that I do wonder and uh, again,

493
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 5: this is not to feel bad for any of us,

494
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 5: but Vasha was the first time that I traveled to

495
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,360
Speaker 5: almost every game. COVID got me for one, but almost

496
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 5: for every game in my career. And by the time

497
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 5: we got to Vegas after the week in Arizona and

498
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 5: being an air, I didn't even play and I was tired,

499
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 5: Like you know what I mean, And I do wonder

500
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 5: if again it's all rumors, but there are some rumors

501
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,679
Speaker 5: about joint practices on the road, and then we have

502
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 5: Germany and like there's a lot of a travel that

503
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 5: goes into it, and you were taught. We were talking

504
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 5: about the Denver Vegas back to back potentially also being

505
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 5: on the road, which would make sense. But at what point,

506
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 5: I wonder, is that a competitive disadvantage to have the

507
00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 5: team for four or five weeks every season, be mobile,

508
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 5: you know, be on the road and be staying in

509
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 5: hotel rooms and practicing.

510
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 8: Miami plus with Miami. In Week one, that whole thing.

511
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 5: Was right, I would that was the one that COVID

512
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 5: got me. So I wasn't at that one. Alex was there,

513
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 5: but that would have that would have really added onto

514
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 5: the play too, I think, you know, for them. And

515
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 5: I just wonder at what point I'm not saying that

516
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 5: they lost in Vegas because of that by any stretch

517
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 5: of the imagination, especially the way that they lost. But

518
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 5: going into that Vegas game, I was tired, and I

519
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 5: can only imagine how tired they all were, and I

520
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 5: was starting to wonder, how can you really expect them

521
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 5: to be super competitive? And then they started the game

522
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 5: extremely flat, and I was not surprised at all.

523
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 3: It's something like five down the stretch.

524
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 5: Too, right, Yeah, I mean, I wasn't surprised. They were

525
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 5: down what twenty to three to Vegas right before they

526
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 5: they they came back and made it a game late,

527
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,239
Speaker 5: and I was not surprised one bit that it was

528
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 5: that they came out flat, because it's a lot, you.

529
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Speaker 4: Know, because the rumors are, like you said, there might

530
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 4: be two joint practices on the roads. Yeah, that's a

531
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 4: lot of time away. And then if you add back

532
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 4: to back during the season and Germany and Germany, I

533
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 4: don't know, maybe they might not do the back to

534
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 4: back just because of that, because it's like, yeah, and.

535
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: We didn't talk about it last week at all, but

536
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: there have been stories about the potential preseason stuff, right,

537
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: so that's out there green Bay and story that there

538
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 3: was going to be a joint and there's yeah, there's

539
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: talks that we're going to be doing joint practices in

540
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: both Green Bay and Nashville. Yeah. So yeah, I mean,

541
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Speaker 3: I think the one that that seemed to not go

542
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 3: over well with the players themselves last year was the

543
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 3: opener with Miami. Yeah, the players didn't seem to like

544
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 3: being there.

545
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 6: It's just a fine line I think between you know,

546
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 6: a coaching staff trying to get their team together and

547
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 6: you know kind of have a little bit of time

548
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 6: away and you're traveling and you're kind of you know,

549
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 6: stuck with each other somewhat. But I do I think

550
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 6: to Evan's point, you can go too far with it,

551
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 6: and you know, they did a lot of it last year,

552
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 6: and last year certainly didn't seem like one of those

553
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 6: Patriots teams that were, you know, ready to rally around

554
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 6: each other. It seemed if anything, you know, I mean,

555
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 6: maybe they did rally around each other, but it was,

556
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 6: you know, not against their opponents. It was kind of

557
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 6: against what that was going on on the offensive side

558
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 6: of the ball.

559
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 4: But I think, you know, in the past, they've done that,

560
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: and I remember, you know, oh, it was great, you know,

561
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 4: we bonded, it was great camaraderie, you know. But I

562
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 4: think a lot of the success of those back to

563
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 4: back games on the road are who's who's your leadership?

564
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 4: What does that look like? You know, how do they

565
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: keep guys engaged all week? How do they keep them

566
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 4: you know, energized and not hope wishing they were home

567
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 4: and all that. You know, I'm not sure that last

568
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 4: year that same leadership existed as maybe ten years ago.

569
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, That's exactly where I'm coming from. And I just

570
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 5: remember last year win in Arizona. Then after the primetime

571
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 5: game in Arizona, we got on a bus and drove

572
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 5: two hours on a bus, got to the place that

573
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 5: we were going to stay for the week in Arizona,

574
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 5: And this whole time, I'm thinking in my head, if

575
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,239
Speaker 5: I'm a player right now, this is a lot, Like

576
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 5: it's a lot for me and I don't even play,

577
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 5: so like, this is a lot for the players. And

578
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 5: then we talked to some of the players during the

579
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 5: week in Arizona and they mentioned just how much it

580
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 5: throws off their routines. You know, they don't have their routines,

581
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 5: they don't have their messuses and trainers and people around them,

582
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 5: you know, or they have to bring them out, you know,

583
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 5: to be out there with them. And I just I

584
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 5: don't know. I think that there is a line where

585
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,959
Speaker 5: it becomes too much. And I go back to that

586
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 5: Vegas game and think about how it started, how it ended,

587
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 5: and you just wonder how locked in truly was that

588
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 5: team at that point after spending so much time on

589
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 5: the road all.

590
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 6: Season, and compare it to the to the game you

591
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 6: guys talk a lot about, you know, the Green Bay

592
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 6: San Diego back to back in twenty fourteen, where lost

593
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 6: a tough game to Green Bay up there, and I

594
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 6: mean it was the last time they lost that season.

595
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 6: But then went to that you know, that Chargers game

596
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 6: which I was at and I mean they you know,

597
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 6: they played great, so you know, you contrast kind of

598
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 6: a team.

599
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 8: Heading in two different directions, you know, in those.

600
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 3: But I'm also thinking, I'm well, you know, like kind

601
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: of interested in the logistics because I wasn't part of

602
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 3: that trip last year, and if the way Evan's describing it,

603
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: and I didn't realize that, like Green Bay, you you know,

604
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: the game ends, You're getting on the bus. You going

605
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 3: to the airport, just like any other game on when

606
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 3: you're traveling in a different direction than you would to

607
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: go home. So you're getting on a plane just like

608
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: normal when you're landing somewhere, only you're away from home

609
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: and you're gonna practice there. This two hour bus ride.

610
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: To me, if logistically, if you can't get to where

611
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 3: you're supposed to be easier than that, I'm not sure

612
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 3: it's worth it.

613
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, where's that bus ride too?

614
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 13: Like?

615
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 8: What was that from?

616
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 5: So we got Tucson or something, So we went Where's

617
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 5: is Glendale?

618
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 4: Right?

619
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 5: Arizona?

620
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 13: Right?

621
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 5: And then we went to Tucson and we got on

622
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 5: the buses right after Monday night football game. So East

623
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 5: coast bodyclock, this is midnight, right, twelve thirty something like that,

624
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 5: and then we drove on the buses I want to say,

625
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 5: almost two hours to where a beauty resort. I will

626
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 5: say that like thank you for that. That was awesome,

627
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 5: But we're in Tucson and that's where we practiced for

628
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 5: the week, was in Tucson at the University of Arizona.

629
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 5: And that bus ride it was tough, like you know,

630
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 5: and I do wonder maybe if you do something like that,

631
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 5: do you stay over the extra night after the game

632
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 5: locally and then take the bus ride at eight am

633
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 5: the next morning? Or I understand their outage of just

634
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 5: let's just get there and let's you know, deal with

635
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 5: it on the back end, but I wonder if that

636
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 5: would have maybe made it a little bit easier for

637
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 5: the players to stay over in Glendale that night and

638
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 5: then go Monday more or Tuesday morning. But with the

639
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 5: extra I think with the short week, it doubt that

640
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 5: puts you a little even further behind the eight ball

641
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 5: in terms of preparation. But I you know, they can

642
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 5: load up the tablets and all that stuff on the

643
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 5: bus and pass them out and have people you know,

644
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 5: going over game plans and things like that on buses.

645
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 5: I would imagine, so It's gotta be.

646
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 8: Tough, though, to be a giant football player.

647
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 6: And I know it's hard enough getting on the plane,

648
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 6: which is you know, specifically built for this and has

649
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 6: a little bit of extra room, but like an average

650
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 6: tour bus with like a three hundred pound guy right

651
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 6: after playing a game, I'm feeling all banged up and

652
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 6: for two hours.

653
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: They end the Arizona game, they get on the bus,

654
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 3: they go to the airport, they fly to Vegas and

655
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 3: they practiced there. Yeah, like for the week. I think

656
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: that would have been a better rule.

657
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 4: They want him in Vegas.

658
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 5: We were already in the Vegas for a week once. Yeah,

659
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 5: they That was interesting too, is to that point. We

660
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 5: were only in Vegas for one night of that whole stretch.

661
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 5: Saturday night before the Sunday Vegas game was the only

662
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 5: time that we spent in Vegas. We all went to

663
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 5: the Golden Night's game actually that that night, which was

664
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 5: a lot of fun.

665
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did.

666
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 5: I did a standing ovation for for Butcher and everybody

667
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 5: looked at me like I was crazy, And I was like,

668
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 5: PRIs Cassidy, what do you what do you mean?

669
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: Despite being mean to his players, they're a second round

670
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: but those things.

671
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 5: I wondered very I just wonder how how much they

672
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 5: look back on those things. And you know, Bill, he's

673
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: looking at everything, right, So how much do they look

674
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 5: back at that and say, maybe if we do that

675
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 5: differently this time, right?

676
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 8: But that's my guess.

677
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 6: What my question is going to be is how different

678
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 6: can you do it? Because you're just kind of beholden

679
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 6: to what the schedule is and if you have back

680
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 6: to back games, you know, at Dallas and Denver or

681
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 6: Vegas and Denver, like either you're staying out there for

682
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 6: a full week, or you're doing a double trip on

683
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 6: a plane. You know, Like there's no real easy answer,

684
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 6: like there's no simple way to do.

685
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 8: I mean, I think some of it last.

686
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 6: Year was a little bit self inflicted, like why are

687
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 6: we flying to Vegas in the middle of summer for

688
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 6: joint practices?

689
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 8: Like when you have a season when you already know there's.

690
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 6: Going to be travel, but you know you're going to

691
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 6: Germany this year. You've got the back I mean, Dallas, Denver, Vegas.

692
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 6: You got three teams that are essentially West Coast.

693
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: Completely agree with you. And I think that was the

694
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: point that Evan was trying to make. I thought there

695
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: was something, ever did it there was something unnecessary?

696
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: And then then, as Evan said, now you mix in

697
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 4: Germany this year, maybe you really think twice before you

698
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: start doing these back to backs and well, and you know.

699
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 6: At least it sounds though like it seems Germany is

700
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 6: going to be in November, and I mean, I guess

701
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 6: I think the buye is probably after that.

702
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 8: So I think the.

703
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: Germany public back doesn't bug me at all. But I

704
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: do wonder about traveling to Green Bay, for that's a

705
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: little bit longer than what normally do in the preseason.

706
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: Tennessee is kind of a semi regular preseason part and

707
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: we've played them in the past. But joint practices in

708
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: both on the road as opposed to joint practices with

709
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: somebody at home, right, you know, so to lighten that

710
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: travel the back to back, if it's Dallas, not Dallas, Denver, Vegas, Denver,

711
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: which to me would make sense geographically, that's better than

712
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 3: going back and forth twice. I totally understand why teams

713
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: like to do that. The ones that do not. Everyone does,

714
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: but the ones that do that, to me makes more sense.

715
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: But is it better to not request it and play

716
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 5: Denver in September and then play Vegas in December and

717
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 5: not sure and not worry about staying out.

718
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 4: It was that year that you know, Sure obviously has

719
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 4: the same you know rotation, And was that year that

720
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: the Patriots requested back to back and the Jets complained

721
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: because they had the same travel thing. It's like, oh,

722
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 4: we have to do this twice. It's like, well, we

723
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 4: asked for it, you didn't, you know?

724
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 8: That was that like eight maybe when they were like

725
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 8: they had.

726
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: Like the Jets were like, how come the Patriot because

727
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: they asked.

728
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: For it and they get whatever they ask.

729
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 5: And I will say, like, there's definitely advantages to staying

730
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 5: like it was. You're all under one roof, and there

731
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 5: is definitely a team camarade, like there's nothing else to

732
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 5: do besides to hang out, you know, for us to

733
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 5: hang out with coworkers and for them to hang out

734
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 5: with each other, like there's literally nothing else to do.

735
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 5: So there's certainly something to that as well. But I

736
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 5: think the Friend's point unless you have real strong leadership

737
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 5: that's like we're doing this and you know, we're gonna

738
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 5: make the best of it and most of it, then

739
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 5: maybe maybe it's something that you look back on and say,

740
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 5: wasn't that And not to.

741
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: Get too deep into inside baseball, but in the preseason,

742
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: when you're traveling, you're traveling with ninety guys, so the

743
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: planes more crowded. You know, there's more staff because there's

744
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 4: more people.

745
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: But even the facility like so you're you're working out,

746
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: you're you're on the road, working out in a foreign

747
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: place that's not really equipped for two full teams yea.

748
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: And not only it's two full teams, it's double the

749
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: size of two full teams yep. So to you a point,

750
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: like having those ninety guys there, that does make it.

751
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: I think one other thing too, I want that's when

752
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: you saw Derek Henry.

753
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: And fell hopefully this year.

754
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 6: One other thing though, to highlight what Evan said, was

755
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 6: just I find it interesting you talk to so many

756
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 6: like rookies, guys that come into the league and they're like,

757
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 6: you know, how did you how did you assimilate? And

758
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 6: they always say find a routine. Like I talked to

759
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 6: the veterans. The veterans are always like, get your routine

760
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 6: down like that. You know, it's such an important thing

761
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 6: for these players to have that every day.

762
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: I know, Monday.

763
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 6: I know what I'm going to be doing, and I

764
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 6: think that that's that's an underrated part of it. I

765
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 6: know I'm an old man now and I feel like

766
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 6: like anytime my routine gets screwed up and I can't

767
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 6: have my right breakfast, I'm like, I'm on the room.

768
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 4: I'm off all day to day.

769
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: You know, we were talking. We had a meeting before

770
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: the show, and they're getting ready to sort of map

771
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: out what we're going to be doing this spring with

772
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: the OTAs and in Mini Camp, and Fred at, yeah,

773
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: we're gonna do live broadcasts at Mini Camp again like

774
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: we did last year. And I was like incredulous. I

775
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: was like, I don't, I don't ever remember doing but

776
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: because that that's not my routine, I normally sit on

777
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: the hill and I watched I watched those practices, and

778
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: Fred was right, we did live broadcasts from Mini Camp

779
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: last year. So just to your point, when you're in

780
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: a routine, sometimes even when you're not doing anything, it's

781
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: it's it's jarring to just Okay, we got to do

782
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: it different, Paul. We have to do it different this year.

783
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: I know, I know you've done it this way for

784
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: twenty you have to do it different. The players are

785
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: the same because even though they might be young players

786
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: in the league two three years in, they've done it

787
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 3: the same way. In college, they've done it the same one.

788
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: Didn't Christian Gonzalez talk to us a little bit about

789
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: that when we had him on the show the day after?

790
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: Wasn't he the one that was talking about some one

791
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: of the veteran college players talked to him about a

792
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: routine Or maybe I'm mixing that.

793
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: Up with talked I remember that.

794
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: But I do remember that kind of a conversation. Just,

795
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: you know, find something that works for you and then

796
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: stick with it. Yeah, you know, whether it be practice, game,

797
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: whatever it is, it's not superstitious routine. It's routine to

798
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: get your body and mind ready to play.

799
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 5: Yeah. I remember speaking to some of the players out

800
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 5: in Arizona and they said, you know, if it's Wednesday

801
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 5: at four o'clock and Wednesday at four o'clock, you take

802
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 5: a nap. When we're here at Wednesday four o'clock, take

803
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 5: a nap, like you know, right, you know, do the

804
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 5: same exact thing that you would do at home. But

805
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is is that a lot

806
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 5: of these players as we know, have their own trainers,

807
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 5: have their own messuses, have their own family obviously, families

808
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 5: do all that, they'd have their routines here that cannot

809
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 5: you can't possibly replicate the routine on the road, So

810
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 5: it is a tricky s time change.

811
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Speaker 4: Is the ACE ticket hout line web radio at Patriots

812
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Speaker 4: dot Com. A's email addressed, did you guys, are you

813
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 4: going to eat?

814
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 3: We did not order anything for food, so.

815
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 4: Breaks whenever I want to take a break.

816
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, I'm going to duck out a little before

817
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 8: one to go go listen to do you.

818
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: Guys want to just throw it out there for just

819
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 3: for fun?

820
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 13: Uh?

821
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: Predict the opener, just have fun with it.

822
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 4: Predict the open.

823
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: Do you want to wait? We could wait for Thursday

824
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: for that because we won't have the schedule on Thursday either.

825
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, we might have inside information.

826
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 5: Friend mind I won't, No, you won't, I won't.

827
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: I'm just going to find out in September. I hope

828
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: it's not again. I was just about to say my

829
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: stale on that.

830
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 8: But I'd be in for the Jets. I'd be in

831
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 8: for like opening at.

832
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: The gym lately Monday Monday night at the Jets I'm predicting.

833
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: There was a stretch where Miami at home was the

834
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 4: opener and then it got switched. No, Miami on the

835
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: road was the opener and then it got switched to

836
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 4: Miami later in the season. Last few years. I don't know,

837
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: like we can we can predict the opener now, you know,

838
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 4: we could do it again Thursday.

839
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 6: You know, I think there's some juice there. I mean,

840
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 6: I don't think it'll be Philly.

841
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: Is it three years in a row? Twenty and twenty

842
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: one were home against Miami. Last year was at Miami,

843
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 3: right right, right, Yeah, three years in a row.

844
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, Cam Newton.

845
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 5: It's it's calm new I do think that would be

846
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 5: fun to Aaron Rodgers' first game with the Jets trying

847
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 5: to break the fourteen game losing streak against the Patriots.

848
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: Monday Night Jets Jets. That could be because the Jets

849
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: are probably going to have some primetime games that they're

850
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: not used to because they've been so bad. Yeah, and

851
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 3: you probably want to get some of them early in

852
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 3: the season just in case it doesn't work.

853
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: And and I guess you know, I think we talked

854
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: about it here. There was a hold up in getting

855
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: this schedule ready this year because they were waiting for

856
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 4: Rogers and Lamar and once that happened, then things fell

857
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 4: in place. But they wanted to see how many primetime

858
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 4: games those two teams were going to have, you know,

859
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: and that was the hold up. All right, let's get

860
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 4: to the phones and emails. Let's go to Todd and Greenville.

861
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 4: What's up Todd?

862
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, I just got a quick question. I was

863
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 9: just thinking about, you know, with additions and stuff that

864
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 9: the changes, what what's the best comparison whether it's you know,

865
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 9: an older Patriots team from here is gone by, or

866
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 9: if it's somebody else, what do you think the style

867
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 9: of offense that Bill O'Brien's going to implement here? Is

868
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 9: it going to be run to pass under just some

869
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 9: sort of very interesting, kind of gimmicky or different form.

870
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 9: So after this is kind of after what Juju said,

871
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 9: that's kind of made my brain think of like, what

872
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 9: exactly do you guys think they're going to do? I

873
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,479
Speaker 9: think guys will take downs are off there.

874
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 4: Okay, what are they going to do it?

875
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 5: That's a good question. I read an interesting piece by

876
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 5: Stephen Ruiz on The Ringer about this, and I didn't

877
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 5: disagree with his general premise. I obviously had my my

878
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 5: nitpicks about the article, but the general premise was just

879
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 5: that personnel wise, it on paper, what guys do when

880
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 5: roles and things like that really hasn't changed all that

881
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 5: much from last year. They don't they still don't have

882
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 5: a traditional fullback, so they're not going to be this

883
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 5: Josh McDaniels under center, power eye play action off of

884
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 5: it type of offense. It's not really Bill O'Brien's m

885
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 5: O to begin with. So Ruiz's point was just how

886
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 5: much can how much better is the offense gonna be

887
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 5: if it's basically the same overall concept of what they

888
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 5: were trying to accomplish last year, just with a better

889
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 5: coach running it. And it's an interesting question. I don't

890
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 5: think that they're gonna go and be extremely play action heavy.

891
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 5: That's not Bill O'Brien's background. He is a spread, shotgun

892
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 5: style offensive coordinator, somebody that likes to be an empty

893
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 5: that likes to be in the gun. So is it

894
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 5: gonna look kind of similar in some ways personnel wise,

895
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 5: tendency wise, how much they call run, how much they

896
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 5: call play action? Like probably I don't think that we're

897
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: gonna get into the season a month in and have

898
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 5: crazy splits where mac is play action forty percent of

899
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 5: the time after he was sixteen percent last last year.

900
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 4: So yeah, I the problem with the Patriots offense is

901
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: they don't have that one star, whether it's the quarterback

902
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 4: or a wide receiver that you could say, okay, well,

903
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: the offense revolves around this one player. You know, they don't.

904
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 4: We don't have Jamar Chase, you know. So I think

905
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 4: I think Evan's right. I think, you know, it's not

906
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: gonna look that different than what we've seen, other than

907
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 4: it might just be MOREX you know, the execution might

908
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: look better. You know, you're gonna have to mix it up.

909
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: We know what they're not gonna do. They're not going

910
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 4: to be a you know, a mobile quarterback offense because

911
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 4: that's not mac Uh and they're not going to be

912
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 4: I don't think, at least right now. They can't be

913
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 4: too vertical because no one's proven that they can do

914
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 4: that yet, you know, so they're gonna have to mix

915
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 4: and match. I think it's gonna be a lot of short,

916
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: past high percentage passes like they've done in the past.

917
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: You know, and I think that you know, they'll play,

918
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 4: they'll work the middle of the field. I hope with

919
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: Gaseki now in the mix along with Hunter, I think,

920
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: you know, though, they'll try to own the middle of

921
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 4: the field there. But like to put a name on

922
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 4: the offense is really hard because there's no one guy

923
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 4: or even two guys that like these are matchup problems

924
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 4: for defense.

925
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 8: I'm interested to see how Gai is.

926
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just it feels like John Hu Smith

927
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 6: by the end was just kind of a weight around

928
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 6: your neck that you felt like we got to try

929
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 6: to get him involved.

930
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 8: You know, it's like every week you already get jun

931
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 8: and we get him involved. You know, it's just nice

932
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 8: to kind of not worry about that now. And and

933
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 8: you know he.

934
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 6: Had such a specific set of skills, Johonhu Smith, did

935
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 6: you know that You're like, here we go, you try

936
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 6: to dump it off a little screen pass to him.

937
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 6: So that I just wonder where the changes are going

938
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 6: to live within GASICKI and I just I wonder about Thornton,

939
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 6: you know what is I mean, I think some of them,

940
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 6: maybe the decision not to get a receiver higher in

941
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 6: this draft might have you know, been a little bit

942
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 6: connected to Thornton if they like him and they feel like, hey,

943
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 6: we you know, used the high round draft back on

944
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 6: the receiver last year.

945
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 8: We like this kid. You know, what does that look like?

946
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 8: What is he what is his involvement in the offense

947
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 8: look like?

948
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 6: If Bill Bill O'Brien takes a liking to him and says,

949
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 6: you know, not necessarily he's the number one guy that

950
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 6: everything's going to go through, but hey, this is a

951
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 6: piece that we can kind of play with.

952
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 4: What would you rather see with Thornton? Like right out

953
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: of the gate, they try to establish him as a

954
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 4: deep threat or they build themselves to that, you know.

955
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 3: Month into this, I'd like to just see him out

956
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 3: there right from the one way he's a contributor. Yeah, yeah,

957
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: I don't think it matters that as long as he's

958
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: a contributor.

959
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 4: Because what I'm afraid is is they try to establish

960
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: it right away, it doesn't work, and they don't do

961
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: it again. You know, they forget about it.

962
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, see, but that would be a bad sign.

963
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: I totally agree with you, but I think that you

964
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: you look at it as like, well, they tried to

965
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: do it and then they just forget about it. My

966
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: guess is if that's what they try to do and

967
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: it doesn't work and they don't do anything else with him,

968
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: they don't think he's capable of anything else, do you

969
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: know what I mean? They think now, I don't think

970
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 3: that will happen. I think I saw enough last year.

971
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: It seemed like they were trying to get him integrated

972
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: and shorter stuff and across the middle. I think, almost

973
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: to a fault. I think maybe a little less of

974
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: that and a little bit more outside or down the field,

975
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: like what they have to have him crack blocks, like

976
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: what I mean, And I get like the idea of

977
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: having a guy that runs like that, that can catch

978
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 3: a crossing route in stride and you know, make a

979
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: make a big play. I just look, I look at

980
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 3: some of the guys, you know, and I hate to

981
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: do this because it's so unfavorable. Like you look at

982
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 3: a guy like Tyreek Hill, and I get it, there's

983
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 3: one Tyreek Hill in the league. Okay, I'm not trying

984
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: to say that Taekwon Thornton's you know, he's a bus

985
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: because he's not Tyreek Hill. That's not what I'm saying.

986
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: But he's so much sturdier Tyreek Hill. Yeah, yeah, like

987
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: it's not even just the speed in the center of gravity,

988
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: like he can get hit and I don't think now

989
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill has had his share of injuries too because

990
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: he's small, but he looks to me so much stouter, Yeah, thick,

991
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: like he can take a hit or two coming across

992
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 3: the middle. I don't like. I like cover my eyes

993
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: when when Taekwon Thornton gets.

994
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 4: Wrapped around the problem is I think he does too well.

995
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm not saying that. I'm just saying

996
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 3: I don't think he's just fifty catches between the hashes

997
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: he heard. I think, you know.

998
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 5: The one thing that I did do recently was I

999
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 5: went back to Alabama season in twenty twenty one and

1000
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 5: watch what else did you have to? And I watched

1001
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 5: a little bit of Jamison Williams with Bill O'Brien, because

1002
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 5: Jamison Williams better player than Taekwon, but body type wise,

1003
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 5: they're actually built almost identically like heightweight, they are basically

1004
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 5: the same size, and both of them are incredibly fast.

1005
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 5: Like I Taekwon in four towo eight. Not a lot

1006
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 5: of guys are going to run faster than four to eight.

1007
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 5: So I think that they have some similarities. And I

1008
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 5: think the one thing that you noticed with Bill O'Brien

1009
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 5: that he was able to do with Jamison Williams was

1010
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 5: scheme ways and with alignment in motion and things like that,

1011
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 5: so that contact was at a minimum. So all he

1012
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 5: was doing Jamison Williams was winning foot races. And yeah,

1013
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 5: he had to deal with some contact down the field

1014
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 5: at the catch point that everybody does, but in terms

1015
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 5: of at the line of scrimmage or within those first

1016
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 5: five yards, they would put him in a stack, they'd

1017
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 5: put him in a trip's bunch, they would put them

1018
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 5: in motion, they would do different things to avoid contact,

1019
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 5: so that all he was doing was it's it's a

1020
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 5: game of it's a game of tag at that point.

1021
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: It's taught to making those big hits, like you're not

1022
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: crossing a zone and someone's recognizing a play coming off

1023
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: their guy and waiting with that just killing right when

1024
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 3: you're going down the field or outside.

1025
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, horizontally, you know. Yeah. And then what they were

1026
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 5: able to do, and I don't this is the piece

1027
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 5: that I think we're all been clamoring for. They had

1028
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 5: John Metchi and and Mechi would just kill teams underneath

1029
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 5: because Jamison Williams would clear it out and it would

1030
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 5: just be all this room for him to go one

1031
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 5: on one. Maybe that's Juju and their eyes in this offense,

1032
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 5: and he has that catch and run ability. So that's

1033
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 5: that's always been the basis of Bill O'Brien's offense is

1034
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 5: the first and second level, the intermediate part of the field,

1035
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 5: the middle of the field, the quick release. He doesn't

1036
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 5: want the quarterback to stand there for three and a

1037
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 5: half seconds and hold the football. So we'll see what

1038
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 5: ends up happening in terms of all the tendencies, but

1039
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 5: the play designs themselves will be obviously significantly different. And

1040
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 5: the last thing I'll mention is, you know, I'll say

1041
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 5: it again, I think there are po package is going

1042
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 5: to be significantly better. Like it's not going to just

1043
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 5: be either run or screen to the outside. Like they're

1044
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,959
Speaker 5: gonna have some downfield routes off of it. They're gonna

1045
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 5: have some different looks, so that I'm excited to see.

1046
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 5: But they're gonna be shotgun a lot, They're gonna be

1047
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 5: spread a lot, They're gonna be a little bit more new.

1048
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 5: Agy I don't think we're going back to Josh mcdaniels's

1049
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 5: offense in twenty twenty one, because that's just not that's

1050
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 5: not how the personnel lines up. They don't have the

1051
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 5: blocking tight end, they don't have the full back like.

1052
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 5: They just aren't built like that. So it'd be interesting

1053
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 5: to see.

1054
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 4: Email is web radio at pages dot com Audrey in

1055
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 4: New Hampshire.

1056
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: That's a piece of Mike.

1057
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 4: I wasn't planning a follow up, but it seems necessary

1058
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 4: considering that Mike keeps bringing up my name. I think

1059
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 4: you have definitely improved some in the hosting chair, and

1060
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: the reading was less frantic. I think Paul's presence helps

1061
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 4: to steady you, but it's still a work in progress.

1062
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: I know the standard is said very high from Fred,

1063
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 4: but the emails are a very important part of the show,

1064
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 4: and believe me, the absolute last place that would ever

1065
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 4: want to be is up your butt. Now about the Patriots,

1066
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to the season, the new team and

1067
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 4: how the players come together. One thing is bringing down

1068
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 4: my confidence in the overall mood. It feels like whatever

1069
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 4: is going on behind the scenes with Bill regarding his

1070
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 4: relationships with both Robert and Mack has become something of

1071
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 4: an ego battle. I think Bill is determined to do

1072
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 4: things his way, even if it's detrimental to the team

1073
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 4: a power struggle. Trying to smooth things over publicly doesn't

1074
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 4: erase what's underneath. If the owner, coach, and QB aren't united,

1075
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 4: then success is a pipe dream, whatever that means. What

1076
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 4: are your thoughts on this topic. I agree, I mean

1077
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 4: we talked about it. I think that at some point,

1078
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 4: if it hasn't already happened, Bill needs to sit down

1079
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 4: with Mac and you know, clean slate, clean slate, just

1080
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: like you know, Bill O'Bryan said.

1081
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: Do you think that are you buying into the narrative

1082
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: that was trying to like work its way out after

1083
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: the draft? That it was all intentional Bill, This whole

1084
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: thing was everything.

1085
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 5: No, some people take that to step forward and say

1086
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 5: that the lack of offensive talent additions like Juju being the

1087
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 5: big one is let's see what Mac's made of, right, Like,

1088
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 5: if he can't do it, you know, if he can't

1089
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 5: keep his head above water this year, then what's the

1090
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 5: point of making the trade for the number one wide

1091
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 5: receiver to make it easier?

1092
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: And you can talk your way into either side of that. Right,

1093
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 3: that could be a vote of confidence for Mac. No, no, no,

1094
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Speaker 3: I have faith in you, Mac. I know you can

1095
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: make it work with this This is you have plenty around, right,

1096
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: and you're good enough to make it work with it.

1097
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 3: Or I don't really have any use for this guy.

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00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: I'm not going to give him anything else to work with. Yeah,

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00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 3: if he's gonna sink or swim, I think he's gonna sink,

1100
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: and then I can get rid of this guy. Like

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Speaker 3: you can talk yourself into and do I think that

1102
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 3: either one of those is true? No, I don't think

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00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 3: either one of those. Right, those are true. You could

1104
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: talk yourself either side.

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Speaker 6: I just can't talk myself into Bill Belichick, you know,

1106
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 6: as he's clearly you know, in his seventies, he's approaching

1107
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 6: the end of his career, being spiteful and like, you know,

1108
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 6: doing things with the team, doing things with the team

1109
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 6: just to prove a point, like like you think he's

1110
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 6: gonna be like, well, I'll show them, I'm gonna go

1111
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 6: three wins this year, like you know, all right, well

1112
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 6: we're not gonna get any talent. Then we'll just see

1113
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 6: then who's right? Like no, like he wants to lose

1114
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 6: and be right like no.

1115
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 4: No, no, no.

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00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: He does not want to lose. He does not want

1117
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: to lose.

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00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 8: He won't lose unless he makes to be.

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00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 3: The reason that they win. There's a big difference. But

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00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 3: with Brady, they got to a point where he was

1121
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: no longer being credited for being the reason that they won,

1122
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: and I think he likes to get back to that

1123
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 3: bottom block box a chicken Bill. Belichick has never gone

1124
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 3: into anything hoping to lose, Like no way. He's one

1125
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 3: of the most competitive guys I've ever met. Like he

1126
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: wants to win games. And bottom line is, if mac

1127
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: Jones is responsible for all their wins, he'll take it

1128
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Speaker 3: because that means he's winning. But if you ask, if

1129
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 3: you're asking me my opinion, if you had his hand

1130
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 3: on a bible, you can win thirteen three or thirty seven,

1131
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: thirty three, He'll take thirteen three so everybody can credit him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think. I think deep down in his psyche,

1133
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 4: he would admit that in a perfect world, no one

1134
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: is above the team, and he realizes that at a

1135
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 4: certain point Brady became above the team and that he

1136
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 4: didn't like that. But there's nothing he could do about

1137
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 4: it because he was that damn good, you know, But

1138
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 4: I think in his perfect world, everybody's the same. You know,

1139
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 4: no one's above the team.

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00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: To here on logan Ryan is just going to bring

1141
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: that up. Yeah, And I think there's some truth to

1142
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: what what Ryan was saying about that. But I just

1143
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: would look at it and say, the one thing that

1144
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: that Logan Ryan said that I didn't and we should

1145
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: probably say. He was on NFL Network yesterday. He was

1146
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 3: talking about how Bill had a knack of being able

1147
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 3: to treat everybody the same. Everything you get, everything, everything

1148
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: you get you learned and but and I agree with that,

1149
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: but I would also say he went on to say

1150
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 3: that he's done a great job over the years of

1151
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: adapting and moving on, and I don't think he's done

1152
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 3: a great job with that. And and that's an example

1153
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: of what I'm what I'm talking about. Yeah, I think

1154
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: if you look up a coaching manual, all the best

1155
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: coaches you guys probably had in all the sports that

1156
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: you played probably did a good job of treating Evan

1157
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 3: the same way he treated Mike. I don't think that

1158
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: works like that anymore. I think some of these guys

1159
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: have grown up in a culture that didn't have coaching

1160
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 3: like that. It was that guy's special and he needs

1161
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 3: to be treated a little bit differently. Some guys are

1162
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 3: special and you can treat him like dirt. Some guys

1163
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 3: are special and they need kid gloves. You have to adapt, like,

1164
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: and I think Bill is like, no, I treat everybody

1165
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 3: the same. Yeah. I don't think he's done a good

1166
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: job of adapting for that, but I think you kind

1167
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 3: of have to nowadays.

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00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 4: I mean, he broke with that with Cam drastically. He

1169
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 4: did not treat Cam the same as he treated everything.

1170
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: No, I think that's a good example the other way.

1171
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 3: You're right, that's a counter to what I think.

1172
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 4: That's recent, you know, and they're you know, like he

1173
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: let Gronkowski probably get away with some stuff off the

1174
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 4: field that not everybody could. The goofiness and all that. Again,

1175
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 4: he was that damn good.

1176
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: You know.

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00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 4: It's like, so if that, if that's what allows grot

1178
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: to be motivated.

1179
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying like, if Brady is late for

1180
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: a meeting, he gets released off the team, that's treating

1181
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 3: everybody the same, Like, that's not my point. Obviously. You know,

1182
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 3: the ninetieth guy in the roster misses a meeting and

1183
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 3: he's probably gonna be out of a job. That's not

1184
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I just feel like, I don't think

1185
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: you could treat Mac the same way you treated Tom.

1186
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna work for Mac. You know, like,

1187
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 3: you can't blame him for every misstep on the field

1188
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: the way you did for Tom in front of everybody,

1189
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: trying to set a tone. Yeah, because I don't think

1190
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 3: Mac is at that stage yet where he can handle

1191
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: that and understand it.

1192
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh, Paul and Norwood. Obviously, Bill Belichick has always

1193
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 4: put an emphasis on core special teamers and has emphasized

1194
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 4: that as well with this year's free agency and draft

1195
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 4: after last year's disastrous results. Not to pick on Cody Davis,

1196
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 4: but he assumed to be four and has played exactly

1197
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: one defensive snap according to Pro Football Reference in his

1198
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 4: three years with the Patriots. Do his special teams contributions

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00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 4: merit a final roster spot over maybe a late round

1200
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 4: draft pick such as Speed or Bolden who may have

1201
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 4: potential long term to be more valuable to the roster.

1202
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 4: In the past, the Patriots have lost draft picks such

1203
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 4: as Lee Smith and Kamier Gruger, Gruger Hill, and Udfa

1204
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 4: Kenny Moore after being put on waivers at the fifty

1205
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: three man cutdown. All started primarily as special teamers and

1206
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 4: eventually carved out productive roles on their respective teams, most

1207
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 4: notably More, who has been a starter for the Cold

1208
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: since the second year and has made one Pro Bowl.

1209
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 4: So are we missing out on some players because we're

1210
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 4: so focused on these core guys? Of course, special team guys.

1211
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 5: I'd say Cody Davis is the wrong example because when

1212
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 5: he got hurt in Cleveland, they were kind of a

1213
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 5: mess on special teams after that and some of the

1214
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 5: things that they were a mess at in particular, or

1215
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 5: punt block right like you know, punt coverage block, whatever

1216
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 5: you want to call it.

1217
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 11: He was.

1218
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 5: He was a personal protector and the main communicator on

1219
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 5: the field, and they had some real issues. Remember the

1220
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 5: one that they had blocked that nobody moved, like, yeah,

1221
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 5: the long snapper snapped it. I think it was Cordona

1222
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 5: still at the time, and nobody moved because they they

1223
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 5: had the snap count differently than than the long snapper did.

1224
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 5: And those are the communications. So I think that a

1225
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 5: better example and for that that's not Cody Davis. Is

1226
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 5: somebody like Brennan Schooler, who is a classic Belichick special

1227
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 5: teams guy, He's gonna he's not playing safety at any

1228
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 5: any time in his career unless they really have a

1229
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 5: ton of injuries and they have no choice. So is

1230
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 5: a guy like Brendan's Schooler worth keeping knowing that he's

1231
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 5: going to be a core contributor on special teams over

1232
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 5: somebody that you feel like does have a future on defense,

1233
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 5: you know, like in a mere speed or like somebody

1234
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 5: along those lines. But I think Cody Davis they missed him.

1235
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Speaker 3: As to his question is have they missed out on

1236
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 3: players because of their special Yeah, they have, But I

1237
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 3: think you're also missing like Camu gruge Hill, if he

1238
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 3: made the Patriots, was going to be a special teamer.

1239
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: Do you know? You know what I'm saying, Like you

1240
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: don't know for sure. And that's why I like the

1241
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 3: example that Evan brought up of Brendan Schooler because sight

1242
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: unseen him and is it Deamarcus Mitchell. Yeah, those two

1243
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 3: guys sight Unseen got on the practice field last year

1244
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 3: and never did anything other than special teams. So as

1245
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 3: rookies coming into the league, Like when Kenny Moore came in,

1246
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 3: like he got reps in the secondary, clearly he was

1247
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 3: going to be a special teams player. But I think

1248
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: that he Evan is right to say the guys that

1249
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: you're looking at a more schooler in Mitchell who it's

1250
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 3: clear they don't have any intentions of those guys playing.

1251
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: And I don't know this, and forgive me for not knowing.

1252
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 3: You know, like the depth chart of every team special

1253
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 3: teams around the league, it feels to me like the

1254
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 3: Patriots have more of those guys that just do special

1255
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 3: teams than most teams.

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00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, they carry and I would say them.

1257
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,959
Speaker 3: Like I could have Kenny Moore and Kamu Gruge Hill

1258
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 3: on my team and then maybe by year three they're

1259
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 3: like Miles Bryant and they played special teams, but they're

1260
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 3: playing on defense too a little bit and they're contributing.

1261
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: You know, you have to weigh it like Josh Bledze,

1262
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: is Josh Blitz are ready to do that this year?

1263
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 3: He could be. He could be ready to play more

1264
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 3: of a meaningful role on defense. So I think there's

1265
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 3: more guys like Kenny Moore than the emailer is probably remembering, all.

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00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 4: Right, Maurice wants to know. Can the Patriots schedule release

1267
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 4: just be Fred reading the games off of whiteboard.

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Speaker 3: I think that'd be awesome.

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00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 4: We did that last year, but it was Ernie Ernie

1270
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 4: Adams did it, so we're not going to do that again.

1271
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, me and Mike wanted to be wise guys too

1272
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 3: and just like read off the whole schedule and say

1273
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 3: win after every game, like that's a win. But like,

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Speaker 3: you know, all right, I thought that would be trolling.

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Speaker 7: About five minutes later.

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Speaker 3: Of course, you know the different stream cuts of meat.

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Speaker 4: Not when you do it well done, not when you

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Speaker 4: cook it well done.

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1479
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1480
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Speaker 4: you're not ordering a steak well done? You know?

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Speaker 5: So I think it's fair. Yeah, I like that. When

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how does it come though?

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Speaker 5: Medium rare?

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Speaker 4: State they will, but ground beef they won't.

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Speaker 4: you should never ever have a burger less than medium.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, well, man, I wouldn't want it less than

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Speaker 4: Some people would. But you should never get a burger

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Speaker 4: less than medium. But steak is okay, you know, because

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Speaker 4: it keeps like there's like a membrane that stays in it,

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Speaker 3: Freddy, just like it's true learning stuff.

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Speaker 3: should try cooking like I had a cookout at my

1516
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 3: house with my family. You'll go crazy.

1517
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, everybody wants it different.

1518
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 3: Oh god, my brother, my brother in law, and my

1519
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 3: sister in law all want it completely well done. Yeah,

1520
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 3: like yeah, I have to just like leave the grill

1521
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 3: and let them fresh, right. My other brother in law,

1522
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 3: my sister's husband. I could use a match to cook

1523
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 3: a burger and he's.

1524
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 4: Like, that's good.

1525
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,560
Speaker 3: That's good. Like I got like hot spots.

1526
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 4: On my grill.

1527
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, I go crazy, you know, Like I don't

1528
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 3: like cooking for a lot of people. It's in the

1529
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 3: first place because I don't have that confidence that I'm

1530
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 3: doing it right. And then everybody wants it different. Then

1531
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 3: you can see everybody like they take I'm like, well,

1532
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 3: then put it back on when you want me to tell.

1533
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 4: You anyway, all right, back to football eight five.

1534
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 3: Like Labor Day, we do lobsters and I don't have

1535
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 3: to worry you take.

1536
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 4: A hotline web radio at pages dot com as the

1537
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 4: email address. I just love the fact that the weather's

1538
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 4: getting warm again. Yeah, I mean, I'm so done with winter.

1539
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: And we didn't even have a bad winter. We had

1540
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 3: a pretty mild winter I know at all. But the

1541
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 3: spring got off to a good, like a really good start.

1542
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 3: It got warm right away. Then we had like three

1543
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 3: weeks of yeah until this week.

1544
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 4: I just it's just good for your bones, the heat.

1545
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 4: It's good.

1546
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 3: I'm going to get that cover off the pool this week. Freddy.

1547
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,799
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I don't have to worry about that anymore.

1548
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 4: I kind of miss it, but all right, Neil writes

1549
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 4: in from New Brunswick, schedule release isn't a big deal

1550
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 4: to me because my viewing's all on TV. Just please

1551
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 4: not Miami again. Please for the opener. I heard that

1552
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 4: teams are no longer guaranteed a primetime game anymore, which

1553
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 4: is if we're being honest or we really don't deserve

1554
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 4: Oh yes we do. We were not that watchable last year,

1555
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 4: and I'm sure our past success will get us a few. Also,

1556
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 4: two Thursdays is just terrible the first time. I agree

1557
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 4: with Mahomes. And finally, Isaiah Win is still a free agent?

1558
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 4: Any chance we sign him between now in training camp?

1559
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 3: I would say, no, Yeah, I'm are.

1560
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 4: You surprised that he's still a free agent?

1561
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 5: No, I'm a little.

1562
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 3: Surprised that someone hasn't signed him to like a one

1563
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 3: year kind of prove it deal.

1564
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 5: They'll get that eventually now that teams are resetting their

1565
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 5: depth charts after the draft.

1566
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 3: I'm a little surprised. I'm not stunned by it, because

1567
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 3: I don't think he played very well in Worse for

1568
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 3: him individually is I think he was deemed to be

1569
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 3: part of the problem, and I think that gets around.

1570
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, with all due respect Isaiah Whin, I've never been

1571
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 5: around a guy that just doesn't seem interested in playing

1572
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 5: football that is a professional football player, and that type

1573
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 5: of thing definitely gets around.

1574
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 3: I would say, I don't remember too many guys whose

1575
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 3: attitude I believe completely changed as dramatically as his did

1576
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 3: from year one to year five. Yeah, it's a shame

1577
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 3: he came in like a pleasure to talk to.

1578
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 4: Because you know, Evan I famously said when they drafted

1579
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 4: him that his floor was a Pro Bowl guard. That

1580
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 4: was his floor, and I was just wrong.

1581
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 5: Well, that's definitely one of those lessons of how much

1582
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 5: attitude goes into because he's got all the talent in

1583
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 5: the world to be the floor of a Pro Bowl guard.

1584
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 5: But I just accused as somebody that just didn't seem

1585
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 5: to want to be here at all.

1586
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 3: And that was certainly the case last year from the

1587
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 3: start of the season when they would ever if it

1588
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 3: was the flip flopping from left to right, if that's

1589
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 3: what it was. But I agree with Evan, he did

1590
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 3: not want to be here.

1591
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 4: Matt and Devin UK because someone was messing around at

1592
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 4: Fred's box last week, it made me look like an idiot.

1593
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 4: You managed to read half my email and then just

1594
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 4: the line up for Paul of do you think we

1595
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 4: should trade for a J. Brown? The whole question was

1596
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 4: for Paul and is and was do you think that

1597
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 4: we should trade for a J.

1598
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 3: Brown?

1599
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 4: As surely after Jalen Hurt's new bumper contract that Eagles

1600
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 4: must be in cap jail and need to move on

1601
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 4: from their best players.

1602
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 3: So I assume that that was like sarcasm.

1603
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 4: Maybe No, I think that he thinks that not reading

1604
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 4: that second half about Jalen Hurts contract forcing them to

1605
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 4: move on made it any different.

1606
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 3: Right, So that's why I'm assuming he's being sarcastic. I

1607
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 3: don't know, it doesn't The rest of that sentence doesn't

1608
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 3: change the email.

1609
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 4: That's what I expected you to say.

1610
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 3: Correct, unless he's being sarcastic and being funny, which in

1611
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 3: the case like I can appreat and I mean more

1612
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 3: than me to appreciate snark. Yeah, right, right, that's what

1613
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 3: I think he's doing. It's just like like Paul, like,

1614
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 3: you know they have to trade AJ Brown now, right, Paul,

1615
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 3: because they're in captured.

1616
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 4: That could be That's the way I unless he really

1617
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 4: believes it.

1618
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 3: Right, except for like that's not going to happen.

1619
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 5: There will be players just like Buffalo's going through, Kansas

1620
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 5: City's going through that end up having to.

1621
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 3: Be except they're not going to be those kinds of now.

1622
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be like the number one misnomer, like

1623
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 3: and Fred always pushes back, So I'm not going to

1624
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 3: get into the cap or no cap at all that.

1625
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 3: But people always call players cap casualties like they're really

1626
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 3: good players. Like if aj Brown catches another ninety balls

1627
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 3: for fifteen hundred yards and eleven touchdowns next year, they're

1628
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 3: not gonna make him a cap casualty. They're going to

1629
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 3: figure out somebody how to manipulate the cap to make

1630
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 3: sure that they need to keep him and hurts right,

1631
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 3: and someone who maybe I don't know, filled a role

1632
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: for them but wasn't all that valuable, Like I don't know,

1633
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 3: I don't know their whole depth chart at receiver beyond

1634
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 3: DeVante Smith and him, but like they let another guy go. Sure, yeah,

1635
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 3: I think that maybe they would keep if in a

1636
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 3: perfect world, but they have to find some cap dollars somewhere.

1637
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 3: So this guy who caught thirty balls is gonna go.

1638
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a guy like Miles Sanders not on

1639
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 5: the team anymore, right, because they're right. They don't do

1640
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 5: that with running backs in Philly anyways, because they're analytically driven.

1641
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 3: But Er, that's a good example, Miles Sanders, good player.

1642
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 5: Go get paid by Carolina. We're gonna, we're gonna, you know,

1643
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 5: draft somebody and they're trade for DeAndre Swift and replace

1644
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 5: you that way. But I think the one guy that,

1645
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 5: like Dallas Goddard, you know, I don't know, can can

1646
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 5: they pay three of them?

1647
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 3: Though? As long as he's still productive, they'll keep. They'll

1648
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 3: find a way to keep them.

1649
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 5: I tend to agree. I do wonder about DeVante Smith.

1650
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 3: You know, they lost some of the defensive players off

1651
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 3: of that team, but a lot of them were on

1652
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 3: one year contract.

1653
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 5: Yeah right, Yeah, they ended up keeping some of those

1654
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 5: guys because who is it a Darius lay Right, they

1655
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 5: were gonna cut him and then they ended up figuring

1656
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 5: it out.

1657
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 3: They allowed him permission I thought to seek a trader. Yeah,

1658
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 3: and they ended up taking any defenses and Bradbury resigned. Right, yep.

1659
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, DeVonta Smith is he's gonna be what He's a

1660
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 5: twenty twenty raft pick, right, so he's I think year four,

1661
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 5: year five now, So it'd be interesting to see what

1662
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 5: they end up doing with him. You know, I think

1663
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 5: it's similar to the Chase and Higgins thing in Cincinnati.

1664
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 5: They'll they'll pay him both, and they'll pay the quarterback

1665
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 5: and they'll figure the rest of it out.

1666
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 4: Tim our friend at dunkin Donuts or just Duncan. I

1667
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 4: just listened to last week's Catch twenty two and as

1668
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 4: Evan and Alex were reviewing each of the draft picks,

1669
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 4: Evan discussed that he believes that with the addition of

1670
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 4: Marty Mapu, the Patriots should change the style of their defense,

1671
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 4: basically having a lighter, quicker linebacker on the field every down.

1672
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 4: My question is, do you agree that the Patriots should

1673
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 4: change their defensive philosophy, and more importantly, do you think

1674
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 4: they will? They will, like Evan hopes.

1675
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 5: Well, I already answered. We talked about that for about

1676
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 5: twenty five minutes, going back and forth. Because Bart is

1677
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 5: not in the he doesn't think they'll do it. I

1678
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,839
Speaker 5: think is more I don't want to put words.

1679
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 4: On what, what does it mean? What do what?

1680
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 5: So essentially the debates because I am insistent that Marty

1681
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 5: map who should be labeled a linebacker and should be

1682
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 5: considered a linebacker moving forward, because I think a lot

1683
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,879
Speaker 5: of people when they made that draft pick drew parallels

1684
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,679
Speaker 5: to Kyle Dugger And what's this mean for Kyle Duggar's

1685
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 5: free agency and their body type wise, their their height, weight,

1686
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 5: that type of thing is a little bit similar. But

1687
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 5: to me, Marty map who plays like a traditional linebacker

1688
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 5: and just a way that he plays on the field,

1689
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 5: you know, speaking to Jim Nagy from the Senior Bowl,

1690
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 5: and he mentioned that Dugger is a little bit more fluid,

1691
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,759
Speaker 5: a little bit looser, a little bit better change of direction,

1692
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 5: whereas Marty Matpho is a true linear downhill athlete and

1693
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 5: somebody that isn't going to have that change of direction

1694
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 5: and kind of fluidity in space to be able to

1695
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 5: be man coverage on Travis Kelcey, Like that's just not

1696
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 5: going to be the type of athlete that he is.

1697
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,560
Speaker 5: So to me, you know, I look at not to

1698
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 5: throw him under the bus, but I look at a

1699
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 5: guy like Jelani Tavai. He know they're always going to

1700
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 5: play a Jawan Bentley, Like Jawan Bentley is always going

1701
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 5: to play on first and second down. But you look

1702
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 5: at some of these weak sidelinebackers that they've had. Can

1703
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 5: the weak sidelinebacker be somebody that can run a little

1704
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 5: bit like, does that guy also have to be two

1705
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty five pounds, or can we have the

1706
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 5: guy that's playing away from the tight end and away

1707
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 5: from the strong side of the formation be somebody like

1708
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 5: Marty Mapuh's two hundred and twenty pounds, so that can

1709
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 5: go sideline to sideline, that can cover a good depth

1710
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 5: of the field, that can be instinctive and have a

1711
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 5: nose for the football and really be a quick tackler

1712
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 5: and things like that. That to me is they've not

1713
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 5: done that. They haven't completely pivoted to that type of

1714
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 5: player yet, whereas the last rest of the league has

1715
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 5: Matt Milano playing the week side or Dean Jones playing

1716
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 5: the mic, or you know the other guys that are lighter, faster,

1717
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 5: Fred Warner and.

1718
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 3: Karen Lorry, Patrick Queen. Right, there's a lot of those

1719
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 3: type guys. And I kind of agree with Alex, Yeah,

1720
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 3: I want to see it before I have.

1721
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I don't think I like, I have no

1722
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 4: problem with the way the Patriots defense has played last year.

1723
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 4: I just think it's always better to do it faster,

1724
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 4: you know, Like they've always been this matchup defense where

1725
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 4: they scheme against the other team's offense. You know, they

1726
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 4: don't have they've never had like players that are so

1727
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 4: dominant that you just roll them out.

1728
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,799
Speaker 3: But well, don't they have to change like what like

1729
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 3: like last year the last seven games, they allowed like

1730
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 3: something like twenty nine points a game, you know, And

1731
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 3: I know that wasn't all defensive points because I know

1732
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 3: they were they were like returns in there, you know,

1733
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 3: special teams issues. I know it wasn't all on defense,

1734
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 3: but over the last seven games, the other team basically

1735
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 3: could score yep against that defense. And I think that's

1736
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 3: a pattern that that's sort of developed over the last

1737
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 3: few years. But it's like I think, when the other

1738
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 3: team figures out what they're what they're doing on defense,

1739
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 3: there's only so much you can do with scheme.

1740
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, well if you do it faster, then you know,

1741
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just I don't think.

1742
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 3: But no, now I'm with you, Fred, I want to

1743
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,799
Speaker 3: change personnel and change the way I'm going about doing it. Yeah,

1744
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 3: Like I would like to see Evan be right in

1745
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 3: this argument with argument it's probably strong with with Alex,

1746
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 3: no conversa.

1747
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 5: I think the biggest the biggest, it was a good conversation.

1748
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing was is that, to Alex's point,

1749
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 5: traditionally Marty Map who is a safety for the Patriots,

1750
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 5: He's Kyle Duggar, He's Adrian Phillips, He's he's a safety,

1751
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 5: He's Patrick Chung like he's those types of players. But

1752
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 5: what I am saying is is that I would like

1753
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 5: to see him be used as a true traditional inside

1754
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 5: linebacker like a Jawan Bentley, but smaller and faster. And

1755
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is is that you look

1756
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 5: at the matchup last year against Buffalo in the last

1757
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 5: week of the season, and on first down they are

1758
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 5: in you know, their bass nickel and they're rolling Jilani

1759
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 5: Tavai and Juwan Bentley and Matthew Judon out there. You know,

1760
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 5: obviously Judon on the edge, and Buffalo just gashes them

1761
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 5: on first down every time they because they're too fast

1762
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 5: and and Alan is too mobile. So they get these

1763
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 5: guys that are two hundred and fifty two hundred and

1764
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 5: fifty five pounds, they stretch the field tours, they get

1765
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 5: them into space, and they just don't have the guys

1766
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 5: in the middle of the field to keep up with it.

1767
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 5: And at some point a guy like Marty Mattpu traditionally

1768
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 5: for the Patriots would either be a safety like a

1769
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 5: Kyle Dugger type, or he would be a sub package player.

1770
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 5: He would only come on the field on third down

1771
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 5: and he'd be a very situational pass rusher or a

1772
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 5: situational coverage player. I want to see that guy play

1773
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 5: all three downs now, like, because that's where way the

1774
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 5: game is going. And you look at the schedule next year,

1775
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 5: Kansas City, Buffalo twice, Philadelphia is on the schedule, Like,

1776
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 5: they're gonna play a lot of these guys that have

1777
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 5: the you know, a lot of these teams with mobile quarterbacks,

1778
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 5: with that speed on offense, that ability to stretch you horizontally,

1779
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 5: and they've got to avoid getting picked apart in the

1780
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 5: middle of the field.

1781
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. I totally agree with that, and I have embraced

1782
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 3: that thought process over the last several years. Fred and

1783
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 3: not all of those guys that I mentioned have worked

1784
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 3: out to be really good players. Matter of fact, some

1785
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 3: of those guys have just recently not had their fifty

1786
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 3: year options picked up. Some of those guys that I mentioned,

1787
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 3: But I do think that that style of player is

1788
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 3: what a lot of teams are going to and having success.

1789
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 3: You know, the Rokwon Smiths of the world, that they're

1790
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 3: having success with more athletics, smaller linebackers that maybe give

1791
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 3: up a little bit in the power game, and you

1792
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 3: have to live with that where I'm sort of skeptical now.

1793
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 3: I think the last thing you said about map who

1794
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 3: is probably what they I think maybe a third down

1795
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 3: kind of package, you know, subpackaged kind of guy would

1796
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 3: be a compromise for Bill in some way. But like

1797
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 3: I look at like I'm just looking at what they're doing,

1798
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 3: Like Keon White is like a two hundred and eighty

1799
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 3: five pound defensive Like that's the kind of defensive end

1800
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:47,560
Speaker 3: big like, So this is how we set the five technique.

1801
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna work out here and he's gonna

1802
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 3: be able to be like Dietrich wise and be one

1803
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 3: of those kinds of guys as opposed to you know,

1804
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 3: a von Miller type edge guy who maybe sacrifices a

1805
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 3: little in bulk against the run. You might be able

1806
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 3: to take advantage of him in the ground game a

1807
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 3: little bit, but he's more of an athlete. Like to me,

1808
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense to have one guy stay in

1809
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 3: that mold and then have the linebackers gonna be totally

1810
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 3: different because this like a forty pound difference between Johanni

1811
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 3: to Vai and Mapoo, right, so this is in by

1812
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 3: all accounts, Mapou cannot play safety.

1813
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 5: So this is the this is the rabbit hole that

1814
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 5: we got down, and the like kind of finally came

1815
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 5: out because for me, where it started was is I

1816
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 5: was trying to figure out Keyon White, like, what do

1817
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 5: they see in this kid? What's the role for him?

1818
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 5: Why this pick? Why the old school Ty Warren two

1819
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 5: hundred and eighty five pound defensive end. And eventually what

1820
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 5: I sort of got to was, well, if they take

1821
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 5: Jolani to Vai off the field and they put Marty

1822
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 5: map who at the second level where I want him,

1823
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 5: they got to be better up front, right, They got

1824
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 5: to be stouter, they got to be more physical upfront.

1825
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 3: So you're marrying the two that way. So I figured out, okay.

1826
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 5: Well put the bult closer to the line. If you

1827
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 5: have Keon White and Christian Barmore and Godshaw and Jude

1828
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 5: On and that's your front on first down, more like

1829
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 5: a four man front. And then you have your lighter

1830
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 5: at the second and the third level. But now you

1831
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 5: have another two hundred and eighty five pound guy that

1832
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 5: can hold up at the point of attack. So it's

1833
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 5: not you're not as susceptible to the run in that

1834
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,719
Speaker 5: sense that Marty map who is just gonna get guards

1835
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 5: on top of him, and he's not gonna be able

1836
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 5: to get off those blocks. So I hope that they're

1837
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 5: going hand in hand on that, and that Kean White

1838
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 5: is here to take up, you know, to clog the

1839
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, take up blockers, you know, the whole

1840
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 5: traditional Patriot thing, which in theory should keep a guy

1841
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 5: like Marty mappho's undersize to play where he's playing clean

1842
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 5: to run.

1843
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 3: To the football works in theory absolutely.

1844
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 5: I just go back to what you know, Teddy Bruski.

1845
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 5: I remember standing he was standing up at the Patriot

1846
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame induction ceremony, think for Richard Seymour.

1847
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,759
Speaker 3: Behind Seymour, Warren and Will Fork.

1848
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 5: And he said, this is what playing linebacker was behind

1849
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 5: these three guys. And I look at Keon White and

1850
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 5: bar More and godshot, and I'm like, it's not the same,

1851
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 5: Like those are all three of those guys are are

1852
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 5: borderline not Ty Warren, but Seymour and will Fork. One

1853
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 5: is in the Hall of Fame, the real Hall of fame,

1854
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 5: and one could be in the in the big Hall

1855
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 5: of Fame. So I'm not saying that though these guys

1856
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 5: are comparable, but I like to think that that maybe

1857
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 5: is the idea.

1858
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 4: Deuce is back from availability. How was it?

1859
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 8: Oh, it was fun.

1860
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 6: Now I heard from Bentley, big Celtics fan, big Celtics fan.

1861
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 6: I didn't realize it was even his team growing up.

1862
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 6: So he's going tonight. So nice, so always good from Bentley.

1863
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 6: But we also got to meet Chris Board so that

1864
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 6: was fun. He said the Patriots wanted him. He said,

1865
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,839
Speaker 6: other teams were like, we'll take you, but they pursued

1866
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 6: him and wanted him. As you know, probably people can

1867
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 6: imagine with the quote from Belichick which he was asked about.

1868
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 8: And you know, very very flattered and you know.

1869
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 6: Just seemed like a soft spoken, you know, quiet guy

1870
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,560
Speaker 6: that you know, just fit the mold.

1871
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 3: Like that was quick availability, It was quick.

1872
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 8: It was quick. I mean, you know, not not too

1873
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 8: much going on. Bentley talked mostly about.

1874
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 3: There are a lot of writers that Fred can I do

1875
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 3: you mind? Go ahead?

1876
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 4: Mood.

1877
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 6: It was a little more spread out than usual, Like

1878
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 6: we've been down there in that new media room and

1879
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 6: everybody it's been more of a scrum, and today we

1880
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 6: all sat at tables, so it was a little bit more.

1881
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 6: They one at a time, one at a time.

1882
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, so you brought them out nothing.

1883
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 4: Table, a long table like.

1884
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 3: The old like the old days.

1885
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 6: For like one of those off track, I was on

1886
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 6: the Belichick going, I was imagining Paul and I was

1887
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,759
Speaker 6: like thinking, he was sitting there listening very intently.

1888
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 8: That's you know, you look like you getting getting.

1889
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:40,879
Speaker 3: I respect the process.

1890
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 8: Did you have a question?

1891
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you think of the new media workroom

1892
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 5: and the setup? Because this is very inside based people

1893
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 5: some people like having when we have these conversations. I

1894
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 5: think and I have some thoughts about the new meeting.

1895
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 4: I know that's temporary.

1896
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 8: I know it's temporary, so I won't I won't judge

1897
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 8: it too hard. It's small, you know, it is is

1898
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 8: a little bit small.

1899
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 6: I like the access to in the old one because

1900
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 6: you could come from the front, you could come from

1901
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 6: the back. You know, there are other ways to get

1902
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 6: in and out, and this one you were late.

1903
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 3: You wouldn't necessarily disrupt the press conference, right if you

1904
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 3: were late, Yeah, exactly.

1905
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 8: Sneak in the back. You could probably still do that here.

1906
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 6: But you just don't have the options of of, you know,

1907
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 6: to get in and out like you did at the

1908
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 6: old one.

1909
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 8: But I'm sure it'll be it'll be fine. There's tables,

1910
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 8: there's a podium. Well, I didn't see that yet. I

1911
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 8: haven't checked that out.

1912
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 3: There was a little kitchen. There is a kitchen which

1913
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 3: I could get my diet PEPs.

1914
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 6: We said we could get a bartender maybe working, you know,

1915
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 6: passing out cocktails back there.

1916
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1917
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 8: There's a kitchen at there though, I don't know what

1918
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 8: that's I'll have.

1919
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 5: To see what it's like during the season before I

1920
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 5: really render true judge.

1921
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 8: You seem like you seem like you're pretty hot about

1922
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 8: this one.

1923
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1924
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 6: Not, well, maybe reserve judgment before it's not a media

1925
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 6: scrum up like right around everyone just crying.

1926
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 5: Made that was tough my one experience. I actually like

1927
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 5: that a little bit better, honestly, because I can hear

1928
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 5: the person and I can ask questions. But with mac

1929
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 5: rowe when he was at the podium, it's far like

1930
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 5: you're far away from from him. And if you're not

1931
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 5: in like the first couple of rows, like when when

1932
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 5: Bill gets.

1933
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 3: Up there was on microphone.

1934
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 5: He is, but I'm talking about to ask questions from

1935
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 5: the group. You know, If Bill's up there and I'm

1936
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 5: trying to ask him a question from the last row,

1937
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 5: I forget about it, Like I'm probably not gonna get

1938
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 5: the question in right because I'm gonna get talked over.

1939
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 6: You got to do business as business is being done,

1940
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 6: you know, you got to adjust right like that.

1941
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying.

1942
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1943
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 5: I feel like those upfront seats are now going to

1944
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 5: become that's going to be like a war like it

1945
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 5: used to be. You know, Mike had his seat.

1946
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 3: Him and so s were tag team, right, and Reese

1947
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 3: would have that that very first seat like on the

1948
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 3: aisle tweeted out about four hours ago he was already there.

1949
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 5: And that that that was Reese's seat, and that no

1950
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 5: one sat there we all understood. But everywhere else was

1951
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 5: kind of like you know it, there wasn't really a

1952
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 5: bad seat in the house. In the old media workroom

1953
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 5: this one.

1954
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, whats going on in that media work round, Freddy,

1955
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 3: that doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, Why they're building a new

1956
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 3: club club, one of.

1957
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 4: Those clubs where you can watch the players go out

1958
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 4: from the locker room onto the field and all that stuff. Yeah,

1959
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 4: well listen, they're all doing it. All the teams have

1960
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 4: it now.

1961
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 8: Smokes, smoke show and all kinds of stuff.

1962
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 3: So they're going to be smoke shows, actual smoke.

1963
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 4: So decent contingency.

1964
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was kind off season, only a couple of cameras,

1965
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 6: not a full contingent of all the cameras. But you know,

1966
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 6: the usual playing hits, playing the hits off season, Celtics,

1967
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 6: a lot of Celtics energy.

1968
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 8: Go sees, no grumbling or about any no grumbling I

1969
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 8: would I would.

1970
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 3: Say, so there was nobody to grumble about.

1971
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 6: The media worker, I would say to Bentley was asked

1972
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 6: about he visited the Pine Street in last week, and

1973
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 6: he really lit up, was just like, I really appreciate

1974
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 6: the question. You know, I think people probably know he

1975
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 6: grew up a little bit with like I guess, as

1976
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 6: he put it home, instability, And I don't say he

1977
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 6: grew up homeless, but sounded like he went through some

1978
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 6: things as a kid, so just really it seemed like

1979
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 6: it was a special thing to him to be able to,

1980
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 6: you know, speak to those people there at.

1981
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 8: The Pine Street and in Boston. So just one other

1982
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 8: thing that was nice.

1983
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 4: Okay, let's get to the A sticket hutline Ryan's and

1984
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 4: but I don't know if you want to close the

1985
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 4: window or something. TAXI Hello, can you hear me? Yes?

1986
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 12: Yes, Hi, all right, thanks for taking my call last

1987
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 12: week or maybe it was the week before. I guess

1988
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 12: you guys had brought up a couple of times that

1989
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 12: you were saying Mac deserved another shot. Yeah, And I

1990
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 12: found that interesting because I'm not so sure that Mac

1991
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 12: deserves a I mean, I think that, yeah, he's fine,

1992
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,719
Speaker 12: and I'm fine with having a Mac quarterback this year,

1993
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 12: and I don't necessarily think he's the quarterback of the future.

1994
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 12: But yeah, I just I'm curious if you know what

1995
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 12: the rationale is behind saying Max deserves another shot at a.

1996
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 4: Quarterback, because I don't think we got a fair look

1997
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 4: look last year, and I you know, I think you know,

1998
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 4: it wasn't fair to him. So that's just that's all

1999
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 4: it is it's let's let's have another look with a

2000
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 4: person who was an offensive coordinator before uh and see

2001
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 4: if he can do any better.

2002
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 6: I would say, I mean too, like, I think I

2003
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 6: think we're all on board with him having to compete

2004
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:39,640
Speaker 6: for that.

2005
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think like it's just carte blanche.

2006
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 8: Go out there, you're the starter.

2007
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 6: I just I mean, I agree with Fred's point that

2008
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 6: the biggest thing was just the offense overall didn't play

2009
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 6: into the strengths, nobody ever got it. But that doesn't

2010
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,599
Speaker 6: mean that I'm married to Mac and oh he's the starter,

2011
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 6: come hell or high water. Like I think you've seen

2012
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 6: it from the coaches. He's going to have to go

2013
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 6: out there and prove that he can still do it too.

2014
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I'm married to Macford the start

2015
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 5: of this year. Yeah, like right, Like I I don't.

2016
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 5: I don't really fully think that that Bailey Zappi is

2017
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 5: in play to start Week one for the Patriots. I

2018
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 5: think that's Mac Jones. But if we get to Halloween

2019
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 5: and he's really struggling and they feel like it might

2020
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 5: be time for a change, and they're headed towards the

2021
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 5: change next offseason anyways, so you want to see what

2022
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 5: you have with Zappy, then that's a different story. But

2023
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 5: I don't really I don't think there's a quarterback competition

2024
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 5: this summer. In real reality, I kind of feel like.

2025
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 12: I'd agree that there's no competition, but I just don't

2026
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 12: think that I would say he deserves it, as in

2027
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 12: like before the draft, we shouldn't have even looked at

2028
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 12: another quarterback.

2029
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 3: Okay, but that's so, that's so, that's a different that's

2030
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 3: a different conversation.

2031
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 4: Thanks, Ryan.

2032
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 3: Oh okay, go ahead and answer well, I can take

2033
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 3: it off the air. I thought we were going to

2034
01:31:55,520 --> 01:32:01,679
Speaker 3: have a conversation, that's a different But if you're suggesting that,

2035
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 3: you know, like, so let's use will Levis because he's

2036
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 3: the only one that was available at fourteen, and he

2037
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 3: was obviously in the Patriots news because of his visit.

2038
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that the Patriots shouldn't take Will Levis

2039
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 3: because Mac deserves the right to have that. No, that's

2040
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:29,680
Speaker 3: not the same thing I'm saying. Given the current quarterback room,

2041
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 3: in the manner in which they went about structuring the

2042
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 3: offense last year, right down to Mike Dusseau rightly pointing

2043
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 3: out that they took days off that they could have

2044
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 3: been working on the offense in the summer that extra day.

2045
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 5: And I have a theory about why.

2046
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 3: I think he deserves another opportunity to prove one way

2047
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 3: or the other. Based on the Matt Patricia situation and

2048
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 3: what they have, I don't think that they have an

2049
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 3: option that's more palatable than mac Jones on the roster. Now,

2050
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 3: if mac Jones plays like he did, you know, for

2051
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 3: the large majority of last year, in my mind, then

2052
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 3: Bailey's appy should absolutely be in line to earn a

2053
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 3: job in practice. Like it shouldn't just be well, come

2054
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 3: hell or high water, it's Mac Jones if he doesn't

2055
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 3: play well and the other kids playing well in practice,

2056
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 3: which we were led to believe at times in the

2057
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 3: off season, right, he was pushing getting number one snaps

2058
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 3: and what of these? Right, So if that's the case,

2059
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 3: then he deserves that opportunity. This is not his job, like,

2060
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 3: this is Tom Brady, this is Drew bledsone. That's not

2061
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 3: what we're we're doing here. This deserves a chance. He's

2062
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 3: the number one guy on this team right now today,

2063
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 3: and he deserves the opportunity for that.

2064
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 5: I just think it's different than I guess this is

2065
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 5: what I was saying with with Cam when they drafted Mac.

2066
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 5: Can't remember Bill said that Cam's our starter, But once

2067
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 5: we got the training camp, it was pretty clear that

2068
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 5: Mac the door was wide open for Mactue.

2069
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 3: There was a competition, right and even more so I

2070
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 3: think leaning towards Mac already having the inside track just

2071
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 3: based off of the reps that they were getting. But

2072
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 3: I would agree with that too.

2073
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 5: Bailey's appy, I think we're going to see a true

2074
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 5: Mac is getting QB one reps, Bailey's Appy's getting QB

2075
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 5: two reps. I'd be pretty surprised if there's any sort

2076
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 5: of overlap.

2077
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 3: Feel Yeah, I do, I do, But I know Fred

2078
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 3: does I feel this, But he's on a leash, and

2079
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that that's just the difference for me.

2080
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 3: There's a difference between deserving another chance and deserving the job.

2081
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 8: Like, I don't think he deserves the job.

2082
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 6: He just deserves a chance again, and I'm not going

2083
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 6: to write him off completely given the circumstances last year. Now,

2084
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 6: do I have my feelings about how this might go, Yes,

2085
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 6: I certainly do, but I'm still.

2086
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 3: Giving them and my choice on whether or not. It

2087
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 3: was yes or no. For Levis had nothing to do

2088
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 3: with Max deserving anything. It was whether or not I

2089
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 3: thought Will Levis was worthy of that selection.

2090
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 5: Yeah. I saw a great story about back recently. One

2091
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 5: of his former teammates at Alabama. They had gone to

2092
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 5: some I should know exactly what it was, but they

2093
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 5: had gone to some sort of event that they had

2094
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 5: to wear suit, suit, tie, dress shirt, you know, dress, shoes,

2095
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 5: the whole thing. And after the event they went to

2096
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 5: Alabama's practice facility. There walking by Alabama's practice facility and

2097
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 5: Mac Jones turns him and says, hey, like, while we

2098
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 5: go throw the football around, you know, just just mess

2099
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,560
Speaker 5: around a little bit. Next thing, the guy says, the

2100
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 5: next thing, I know, I'm running full speed routes at

2101
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 5: ten o'clock at night, you know from Mac Jones and

2102
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 5: Mac is in a full sweat like, you know, full

2103
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 5: workout mode where he both didn't have shoes on because

2104
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 5: we didn't have regular you know, we didn't have cleats

2105
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 5: or sneakers or anything like that. And I just I

2106
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:39,679
Speaker 5: do think that he has that that relentless work ethic.

2107
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 5: The question is does he have the physical ability like

2108
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 5: I don't think it's a want to or an attitude

2109
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 5: or a work I don't think it's any it's yeah, right,

2110
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 5: like does he have that physical ability? And I just

2111
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 5: you mentioned I thought of this because you mentioned Will Levis,

2112
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 5: who I think is the total opposite from everything that

2113
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 5: you hear about him. The reason why he fell to

2114
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 5: the second round is because he's not really wired that way.

2115
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 5: He's more worried about marketing deals off the field than

2116
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:09,719
Speaker 5: he is worried about you know, when does rookie mini

2117
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 5: camp start. So I feel for Mack in that regard.

2118
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 5: I think, like I find myself feeling for him because

2119
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 5: I think he he does put in the work, and

2120
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 5: he does put in the extra hours, but he might

2121
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,679
Speaker 5: physically just not be good enough.

2122
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 6: I think that's like exactly what I said last offseason

2123
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 6: about him, Like and I have issues with him, certainly

2124
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 6: with you know, how we dealt with some of stuff

2125
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 6: last year.

2126
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 8: But as far as like.

2127
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 6: Off season and what he's doing and organizing throwing sessions

2128
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 6: and you know, maniacally pursuing his goal of being you know,

2129
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 6: a top quarterback in this league.

2130
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 8: I have no doubt he's trying all that stuff.

2131
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 6: It's just I don't know if you can retroact or like,

2132
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 6: if you can manufacture a superstar like I don't know

2133
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 6: if if like if you just find the guy who's

2134
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 6: willing to work the hardest than ever, that he's going

2135
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 6: to be the best. There's just a certain level of

2136
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 6: natural talent that I'm not sure if it's going to

2137
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:56,799
Speaker 6: be able to get him to that point, even.

2138
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 4: Thought the work. I think I agree with everything that

2139
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 4: Evan said about, you know, his work ethic and everything,

2140
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 4: But at what point, you know, is it where you

2141
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 4: know you're this player and you don't like the way

2142
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 4: things are happening, and hey, Mac, just it'll be no,

2143
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna listen, No, this isn't right. Like, at

2144
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:19,680
Speaker 4: what is there a point where, even if you have

2145
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 4: everything that Evan said in terms of work ethic and drive,

2146
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 4: where you have to at least step back a little

2147
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 4: bit and let your coaches coach and take orders and

2148
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 4: not always be like I don't like it. It's not right.

2149
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 8: You know, you know, it's maturity, right, I mean that

2150
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 8: seems like a maturity.

2151
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, but I think it goes back to what

2152
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 5: Paul is saying at the beginning about today's athlete and

2153
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,759
Speaker 5: maybe just having to treat him a little bit differently

2154
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,799
Speaker 5: than than what you would have before. And I wonder,

2155
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 5: if I don't know, I wonder how they could have

2156
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 5: handled that situation better from the jump to get him

2157
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 5: on board and even initially.

2158
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:58,520
Speaker 8: Extra day at OTA practices.

2159
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 3: But I I just but I don't know.

2160
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 5: I always hear stories about like Edelman, for example, and

2161
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 5: I don't want to compare to Brady, so like with Edelman,

2162
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 5: like you always hear those stories about how his dad

2163
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 5: would like go out with like a you know, one

2164
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 5: of those ball machines at six am and he'd be

2165
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 5: fielding punts off the ball machine before school, And like,

2166
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:19,640
Speaker 5: I feel like Mac is wired that way too, So

2167
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 5: I'm just what, like, is it just physical ability that's

2168
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:25,600
Speaker 5: the disconnect? Like, where is the disconnect between that the

2169
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 5: guy that I know, the job at Alabama?

2170
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 3: If your bill what's not to like? Does everything? Yes,

2171
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 3: that I would think that you would love, right, But

2172
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,560
Speaker 3: he's got to be something with your word maturity.

2173
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that that's probably is what it is.

2174
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:43,839
Speaker 4: Zach writes in I like the early roster projection Evan did. However,

2175
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 4: one change I'm hoping for is that Miles Bryant doesn't

2176
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 4: make the team and one of the two late round

2177
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 4: corners work out. Having multiple over six foot tall for

2178
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 4: three corners could be very beneficial against top teams. I

2179
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 4: feel Brian is more of a liability than anything else.

2180
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 5: I'll believe it when I see it that Myles Brian

2181
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 5: isn't on in the mid Plus those.

2182
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 3: Two guys, I think he's talking about Speed and Bolden,

2183
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 3: not Gonzales, right, yeah, I would hope. So no, so

2184
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 3: you have one plus six feet corner. I think the

2185
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 3: other two are special teamers, and you know, talked a

2186
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 3: little bit to Michigan State's special teams coach about a

2187
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 3: mere speed and that's how he described I mean, he's like, listen,

2188
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 3: he never he never talked about being a cornerback. You

2189
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 3: always knew that his future, you know, lied on special teams.

2190
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 3: So I think that's what he expects. So I would

2191
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 3: be stunned if you see these guys, you know, especially Speed.

2192
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 3: I don't know as much about Bolden, but two years

2193
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 3: from now, three years from now getting any kind of

2194
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 3: regular reps as corner Yeah.

2195
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 6: But but also to mention kind of what we were

2196
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 6: talking about before was just that like those late round

2197
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 6: kind of big corner like I mean there's size.

2198
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 3: Evan mentioned it in size and Webster types.

2199
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:55,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, six to two guys, ten four to three speed.

2200
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, if you're going to take a

2201
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 6: chance of guys, it's the kind of guys you want

2202
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 6: to take a swing.

2203
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 3: So that kind of tells you what. There's thirty thirty one.

2204
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 3: Other teams looked at these guys and said, wow, six one,

2205
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:14,639
Speaker 3: six two, you know runs runs like that, Eh, seventh round,

2206
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 3: so that they're telling you sixth round. So that's what

2207
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 3: these guys are.

2208
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2209
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 3: If they don't even think they had the ability to

2210
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 3: play corner at that size and speed, then you'd be

2211
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 3: Christian Gonzalez get taken in the first round.

2212
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:28,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2213
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 5: I didn't even think twice about having Miles brian On there,

2214
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 5: to be honest with you, I just.

2215
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 8: Like he's part of that question.

2216
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I haven't you know, there's just too

2217
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 5: many I haven't looked yet. With Devin gone, just trying

2218
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 5: to fill the brain drain of losing Devon by taking

2219
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 5: a guy that they clearly trust and clearly has experience

2220
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 5: in the system at both safety and corner. To take

2221
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 5: that guy off the roster and put a rookie on

2222
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 5: that doesn't know any of the things that Miles Bryant

2223
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 5: knows about the defense and stuff like that. I just

2224
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 5: that just doesn't seem.

2225
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 8: I, you know, like them, I just thought of something.

2226
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 6: And we spent so much time talking about everything about

2227
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 6: this team, and and you know, we're talking about all

2228
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,719
Speaker 6: these special teams guys that they drafted, some they signed

2229
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 6: Chris Board, they brought back Cody Davis, they brought back

2230
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 6: Matthew Slater. And it's funny because I wish and I

2231
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 6: almost feel like I need to write it is like

2232
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 6: where's the deep dive about what exactly positions on special

2233
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 6: teams did those guys play last year?

2234
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 8: And I know Paul.

2235
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 6: Were gone, but you know, really, like I, I do

2236
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 6: think that there's something there about how is this a competition?

2237
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 8: Like who is actually in competition? Who plays gunner? Who

2238
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 8: who's you know, who's on.

2239
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 6: The outside, And you know, like we just kind of

2240
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 6: gloss over the special teams positions and it feels like

2241
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 6: there's really a lot of roster competition that's gonna happen,

2242
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 6: and and it almost we know all about five technique

2243
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 6: and you know, week sidelinebacker and all those kind of positions.

2244
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 8: But it's like, all right, well the L three spot

2245
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 8: was really bad on the kickoff.

2246
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, Like, no one can speak

2247
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 6: to that, but it's it's probably something that they is

2248
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 6: trying to figure out what makes Brandon's school or a

2249
01:41:58,720 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 6: better L three.

2250
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, then potentially Pierre Strong who's going to be the

2251
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 3: backup running back which is great, which is for example

2252
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 3: that ever used because Pierre Strong had a pretty significant

2253
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 3: blunder on special teams in the Minnesota game. I think

2254
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 3: he was the one that ran into the punter that

2255
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 3: gave Minnesota that extra chance to take the lead in

2256
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. So like I would ask that, like

2257
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 3: why is the guy who just plays special teams a

2258
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 3: better option than the guy who can perhaps be a backup? Now,

2259
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 3: I think it'd be really interesting to watch speed in

2260
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 3: Bolden when we get out there are they in the

2261
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 3: Matthew Slater one on one course, probably school with schooler

2262
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 3: in Mitchell right, de Marcus mitchell In Schooler were there

2263
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 3: from day one of the spring? Well we see these

2264
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:46,839
Speaker 3: kids there too.

2265
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jerry and London says he wants to write about

2266
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 4: rare burgers and steaks plus the football question. He said,

2267
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 4: Fred was not quite correct, but on the right track.

2268
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 4: A state can be cooked rare because the bacteria can

2269
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 4: only be on the outside and the searing kills it.

2270
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 4: We know that the interior is uncontaminated. That's kind of

2271
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 4: what I said the beef. When the beef is ground

2272
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 4: for a burger, the outer layer that would be seared

2273
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 4: if cooked as a steak is now mixed up with

2274
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 4: the rest, so it shouldn't be eaten rare. However, we

2275
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 4: have a chain of burger restaurants here in London that

2276
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 4: will serve them rare on request because the beef is

2277
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 4: ground the same day from a full cut that has

2278
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:27,799
Speaker 4: been trimmed prior to the grinding process. They are safe

2279
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:28,600
Speaker 4: and delicious.

2280
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 8: Wow, this is not my.

2281
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 4: Time to shine as your resident burger expert, because I

2282
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 4: am not one. I just repeat stuff someone told me

2283
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 4: without fact checking.

2284
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 3: It's kind of like Fred or something.

2285
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 4: Yeah. Football point. Bill's offseason indicated to me that he

2286
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 4: has no confidence in Mac. Why waste a hide pick

2287
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 4: or trade for a top end receiver when the quarterback

2288
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:51,600
Speaker 4: can't get him the ball. Better to stock up on

2289
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 4: defense and get that set up ready. For the next quarterback.

2290
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 4: Just my perception, What are your thoughts.

2291
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:01,959
Speaker 5: I think that Bill still whole hardly believes that great defense,

2292
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 5: clean special teams, and an offense that's just good enough

2293
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 5: is going to win you eleven or twelve games. I

2294
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:09,639
Speaker 5: think that he's.

2295
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 8: Still put you in the mix at the end.

2296
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 5: I see he still thinks that that core identity of football,

2297
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 5: of play well in all three phases, deep roster, good

2298
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 5: on defense, don't turn the ball over. I think he

2299
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 5: thinks that those things, all those tenants Still.

2300
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:27,680
Speaker 3: I have no doubt that that's how he thinks. I'm

2301
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 3: one hundred percent convinced that that's how we think. Just

2302
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:33,679
Speaker 3: what Evan just said. What I don't know is does

2303
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 3: Bill recognize that as good as his defense has been

2304
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 3: statistically over the last let's call it three years now,

2305
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:44,440
Speaker 3: does he still think it was bad luck or circumstantial

2306
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 3: when he's gone up against the better offenses and struggled,

2307
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 3: because more often than not against the better I'm not

2308
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 3: telling you every single time.

2309
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 5: Right, but the picks that they made there to make

2310
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 5: the defense.

2311
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 3: I know. But I almost think, like I go back

2312
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,640
Speaker 3: to the Nick Saban quote, like I think Savment's right, Yeah,

2313
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 3: I think that the great defense can only be so

2314
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 3: great today.

2315
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 4: Well maybe that's his point too, is like, yeah, we

2316
01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 4: did struggle against the better offenses, so does everybody else

2317
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 4: right now.

2318
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is you can make your defense

2319
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 3: better and you can win games. I don't think you

2320
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 3: could be a contender that way. Yeah, if you don't

2321
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 3: get the offense, you.

2322
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 5: Can only win one can only win one, right, it

2323
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:23,759
Speaker 5: can only.

2324
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 3: Win one way?

2325
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:25,799
Speaker 4: Here now has the difference?

2326
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just they can only make that difference.

2327
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 5: They can only win one game script, And if they

2328
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:33,719
Speaker 5: don't play to that game script, did they fall behind

2329
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 5: or if they get into a higher scoring game they

2330
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 5: lose every single time. Like it's the the math is

2331
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 5: right there for you. Their record when they give up

2332
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:44,040
Speaker 5: twenty five plus points, they're over in the mac Jones era.

2333
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 5: It just it's the same thing. And I just this

2334
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 5: draft this offseason definitely speaks to the fact that that

2335
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 5: he still thinks what I just said that those three things.

2336
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 3: Well, I think I like I said, I'm one hundred

2337
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 3: percent convinced that he thinks that.

2338
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd also just say, I mean I think it

2339
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 6: was somewhat you know, based on who was available, you know,

2340
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 6: and like I do think that these moves that they made,

2341
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 6: your defense was above your offense last year, and these

2342
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 6: moves probably put your defense above.

2343
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 8: But it also sets resets the ceiling a little bit

2344
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 8: for me.

2345
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 6: If these guys work out that, you know, maybe they

2346
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 6: can get over the hump.

2347
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 4: But if there was a.

2348
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:17,560
Speaker 6: Great wide receiver there, you know, if Garrett Wilson was

2349
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 6: sitting there. This is a different year, Crystal. You know

2350
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 6: what a differentation.

2351
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 3: You guys liked more than just just Zay Flowers and

2352
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 3: in the in the like you you liked other guys

2353
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 3: instead of maybe like Kean wider Mapu.

2354
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean tight ends, you know. That's that's

2355
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 6: that's where I would go.

2356
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 5: Mingo in a little bit earlier than I was expecting

2357
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 5: him to go. I think he went thirty eight or

2358
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 5: thirty ninth. And then you know, the one that's gonna

2359
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 5: hat me is Josh Downs. Like, if Josh Downs ends

2360
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 5: up being a good player, did what tea at seventy seven.

2361
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,400
Speaker 3: You're gonna be all right, sawsome video of him, but

2362
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 3: like down there, oh yeah, he's got he looks pretty good.

2363
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 3: He's going to struggle though with like if he had

2364
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 3: gone to like Kansas City or and you're like, oh, geez,

2365
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 3: now I got to watch this guy catch eighty balls.

2366
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 3: Sky Waller will be okay.

2367
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 4: Soil in Seattle rights in with no major upgrades on

2368
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:15,600
Speaker 4: offense besides Koseki. Uh, he says, besides maybe Kaseki. What

2369
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 4: happens this team is picking in the middle of the

2370
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 4: first round again, does the excuses for the quarterback now

2371
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 4: become a lack of talent around him? This guy MATC

2372
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 4: seems bulletproof in the media.

2373
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 3: Oh, it's as as they say on my shows, right, Yeah,

2374
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:35,480
Speaker 3: let's not kill everybody for something that hasn't happened yet, right, paraphrasing,

2375
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 3: Let's not blame anybody for something they haven't done yet.

2376
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 3: Let's not say that it's not going to work, and

2377
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 3: let's not say that Mac is bulletproof, because that's what

2378
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 3: they're going to say. That said. I think that's going

2379
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 3: to happen. I think he's going to have an average year,

2380
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 3: and I think that the hue and cry after that

2381
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:51,560
Speaker 3: is going to be, well, what do you expect? You

2382
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:53,600
Speaker 3: got to get him weapons? I think he's right, that

2383
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 3: is going to happen.

2384
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 4: Well, I think I think the discerning viewer will know

2385
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:01,360
Speaker 4: the difference if if he's just not getting the ball

2386
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:03,679
Speaker 4: to open guys and it's Mac. You know if if

2387
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:08,040
Speaker 4: the whole offense just looks crazy again, then yeah, I

2388
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 4: just hope that's going to happen.

2389
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 3: I think, look crazy, They're going to have a structure, right.

2390
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 4: That's what I'm about to say. I think the guys

2391
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 4: in this team, the weapons that Mac have our NFL weapons, right,

2392
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 4: I think they're good enough. I think with them and

2393
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 4: Bill O'Brien structuring it, to use Paul's word, we should

2394
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 4: get a fair representation of who Mac is now in

2395
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 4: his third year. I think we should be able to

2396
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 4: make a clear decision on whether or not we think

2397
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 4: he's got what it takes by the end of the season.

2398
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 4: I just I just worry.

2399
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 6: What if it's whack a mole and it's something else

2400
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:46,600
Speaker 6: every other week and one week he.

2401
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 8: Looked like he looked, he looked pretty good last week,

2402
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 8: he was terrible this week?

2403
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 4: Or was he flat on his back?

2404
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 3: You know?

2405
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 6: Like, but what if you can't pin it down to like, well,

2406
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 6: he was sacked six times that week and he was

2407
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 6: bad and this week he wasn't you know, like like

2408
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 6: if if it's just inconsistent, that's what's hard to pin

2409
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 6: down what you're gonna get.

2410
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 3: The week he's good, it's five for one oh one

2411
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 3: for DeVante Parker, and then like two weeks later he's

2412
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 3: not so good because Parker like turned an ankle or

2413
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 3: something like. There will be something. I'm just telling you,

2414
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 3: I think, But if it's.

2415
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 5: Not gonna be and White I defended back maybe more

2416
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 5: than anybody last year. But if we get to the

2417
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 5: point where we're now and you're three of it being

2418
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,759
Speaker 5: mediocre at best, like, at that point, next off season

2419
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 5: becomes a real quarterback conversation. Like I think all of

2420
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 5: us even know, I understand what you're saying, Paul, but

2421
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 5: I think at that point all of us would realize, Okay,

2422
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 5: like this is not the answer, This is not the

2423
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 5: long term. So even if you do surround him by

2424
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 5: with all these weapons, I.

2425
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,760
Speaker 4: Mean, like they had injuries last year, but they also

2426
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:49,600
Speaker 4: had like the whole disgruntled thing, you know, burns in

2427
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:52,639
Speaker 4: the dog out the dog house and things like that.

2428
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 4: I don't expect that other nonsense to be happening. There

2429
01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 4: will be injuries, guys will get hurt, but you know,

2430
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 4: a good quarterback and a good offensive quarter be able

2431
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:05,760
Speaker 4: to figure that out and Okay, we're gonna have to

2432
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,759
Speaker 4: adjust a little bit here. Well I think, well.

2433
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 6: No, well, yeah, I'd just love to see I'd love

2434
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 6: to have Max surprise me, you know, as I just

2435
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 6: I feel like what you see is what you get

2436
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 6: in a lot of games with him, and and you know,

2437
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 6: and I think that they like that to some degree

2438
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:20,799
Speaker 6: of just you know, hoping that he's going to be steady.

2439
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 6: But I just for me, I would just that's one

2440
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 6: thing I'm really waiting for, is like, win a game,

2441
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 6: a game that you're up against. It it doesn't you're

2442
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 6: against a good team. This is a playoff team. You

2443
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 6: got to play perfectly, you know, and he and he

2444
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 6: doesn't look great and he pulls it out like it's

2445
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 6: just I don't see a lot of flip the script

2446
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 6: kind of moments from him so far. And I guess,

2447
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 6: you know, and and and it can be up and

2448
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 6: down next year, but I just I think you at

2449
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 6: least very least need to see some kind of glimpses

2450
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 6: of like, yeah, but he had a couple of games that.

2451
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 3: I'd like to see them because of offense. Yeah, right,

2452
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 3: I mean that's I mean it's like whether it's like

2453
01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 3: you fell behind or whatever, but just you know, you

2454
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 3: were good on offense throughout the game and you dictated

2455
01:50:58,520 --> 01:50:59,679
Speaker 3: the game because your offense.

2456
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 4: We think about like two tight games last year. Minnesota

2457
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 4: was one where you know, they were moving the ball

2458
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 4: and then the Raiders, right.

2459
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 3: They didn't move the ball again both games.

2460
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:14,640
Speaker 4: Mac is like, you know, like yelling no confidence in

2461
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 4: what's being he's being asked to do. I don't see

2462
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 4: that happening this year.

2463
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with that. But like,

2464
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 3: like the Vikings game was probably one of the best

2465
01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 3: games that they had, and then when it came nutcut

2466
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 3: in time, they did nothing in the fourth quarter.

2467
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,959
Speaker 4: And and that's when Mack was like, you know, arms.

2468
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 3: The Raiders game was different. They were better in the

2469
01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 3: second half than the first. I think they onlyly three

2470
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 3: points at halftime, and then really largely the second half

2471
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 3: was Romadre Stevenson had like a fifty yard run in

2472
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:46,880
Speaker 3: like a long touchdown run. But they did enough in

2473
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 3: the second half. I think they scored twenty one. I

2474
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 3: mean seven of them were Kyle Dugar picked six, but

2475
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:53,759
Speaker 3: they scored enough points to win in the second half,

2476
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 3: and then they go up to touchdown drive at the

2477
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:56,759
Speaker 3: end of regulation.

2478
01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 4: Markson Everett on the Ace ticket hut line, what's up, mar.

2479
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:02,679
Speaker 13: Hey, guys? How are you doing all right?

2480
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 4: Mark?

2481
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 13: So it's like cool the quick comment question food questions

2482
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 13: for Paul. But I think we all know that he's

2483
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 13: building up the defense, is going to fix the special team.

2484
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 13: I don't think Maxon would be our quarterback for the

2485
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 13: future just because of what we saw and how he

2486
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:23,679
Speaker 13: reacts to things. He can't carry the team in any way.

2487
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 13: He doesn't make those trolls when you need it. I

2488
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 13: think we all can see that. I wouldn't you agree.

2489
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 3: If I had to say, I think you're right. I

2490
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 3: don't think he I don't think he believes I think

2491
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,599
Speaker 3: that would. But I don't know what's in Bill's mind

2492
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:40,640
Speaker 3: for sure. But if you're asking me this year, yeah,

2493
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:42,320
Speaker 3: I think he did build up the defense.

2494
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:49,839
Speaker 13: You had to choose, can't pizza or steak and cheese?

2495
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:50,800
Speaker 13: Which one would it be?

2496
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 4: Oh?

2497
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 3: The trade? The trade pizza without without without I haven't

2498
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 3: had it in a long time, but yeah, the pizza

2499
01:52:59,280 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 3: I love to blow.

2500
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, you guys, you know.

2501
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 4: I love you guys, ever.

2502
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:05,799
Speaker 13: I love you.

2503
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 3: Thanks Mary, right, thanks, these are my people.

2504
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 4: You already knew what he's gonna ask me for.

2505
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 8: Heyes, and he didn't even say anything like.

2506
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:15,360
Speaker 3: Saw I saw Mark from Everett. I don't know who

2507
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 3: Mark is, per se, I probably I probably do know

2508
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 3: who he is, but I didn't know which mark that was.

2509
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 3: Probably owed your money, but it said Everett and it

2510
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 3: was a food question, so I automatically assumed.

2511
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 4: Which.

2512
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 3: There's nine thousand sub places in Everrit.

2513
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, de Blasi says, the one Deblasis was my favorite.

2514
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 4: The spot Ryan Atlanta, besides the Gonzales pick, the booty

2515
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:39,599
Speaker 4: pick in round six piques my interests.

2516
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 3: The most they call my.

2517
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,760
Speaker 4: Big thing with him is that he and Born are

2518
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 4: slightly redundant. So what do you think his role will

2519
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 4: be in twenty twenty three? Do you think he gets cut,

2520
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 4: gets the Foxborough flute, or potentially pushes KB off the roster?

2521
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:57,679
Speaker 5: And this is the biggest stud complaint. I got chocker

2522
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 5: about my my Rostert. I cut Butte because of this

2523
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 5: because Juju Born Butte really similar players, like all the

2524
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 5: three of them are really similar players. So unless Butte

2525
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 5: really pushes one of those guys off the roster, out

2526
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 5: of the rotation in training camp, then how does he

2527
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 5: fit into this puzzle? Whereas with the Mario Douglas, he's

2528
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:23,719
Speaker 5: got a uniquer skill set. He's got he brings something

2529
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 5: to the table that the other guys don't. So at

2530
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 5: that point I was like, well, I got to see

2531
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 5: it first in training camp from Butte to see if

2532
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 5: is he gonna be the old Bote or is he

2533
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 5: the new Boute? And if we get to that point

2534
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 5: in August where he's a stud, then we revisit the conversation.

2535
01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 5: But until I see that I agree with the email

2536
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 5: or that he's a little bit redundant to the other guys.

2537
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 5: So can he push Kendrick Bourne out of the rotation

2538
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 5: or even off the roster? Well that's a see.

2539
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 3: That was the quot. We had a question the mail

2540
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 3: bag this week, just you know, simple, straightforward. You know,

2541
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 3: give me a wide receiver corps that that ends up

2542
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 3: making the team. And you know, I started, I think

2543
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 3: most people will be like, well, there's four obviously, right,

2544
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 3: Well for me, there's two obviously. You know, Juju's not

2545
01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 3: going anywhere and Taekwon Thornton in my mind is not

2546
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 3: going anywhere. I can make an argument for the Douglas

2547
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 3: is in the Booties to like really emerge with strong

2548
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 3: springs and summers that they take a step back. And

2549
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 3: I know that they don't have anybody that has Parker's

2550
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:27,480
Speaker 3: size and skill set, so he would be safer than

2551
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 3: born in this scenario. But if Bill really loves these

2552
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 3: two kids, I could see an argument where you could

2553
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,560
Speaker 3: take a born In a Parker and maybe see if

2554
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 3: you can, you know, get a draft pick for them,

2555
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 3: or get someone else's guy that they're going to cut

2556
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 3: in a different position that you know, maybe play special

2557
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:47,720
Speaker 3: teams and fill it in, you know, for like, I

2558
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 3: don't think they are locks. So in other words, I

2559
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 3: do think that Booty in Douglas could emerge and make

2560
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 3: born In Parker irrelevant. Now, again, no one else on

2561
01:55:59,880 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 3: the rosters like Parker in size. I think they like.

2562
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:07,000
Speaker 3: So I think that he stays, and if someone were

2563
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 3: to go, my money would be on board. I don't

2564
01:56:08,840 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 3: think it's a foregone conclusion. I think all four of

2565
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 3: those guys will stay, and then one of those kids

2566
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 3: will stay, because I don't think they'll keep six.

2567
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 6: No, I just want to see how those guys spark

2568
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:20,320
Speaker 6: with mac too, like you.

2569
01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 3: Know, sixth round picks, right, like you do. We have

2570
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:23,879
Speaker 3: to find roster.

2571
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:26,240
Speaker 6: Spots for I was just like one of them. I

2572
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:28,120
Speaker 6: would just if one of them, one of them should

2573
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 6: make it.

2574
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 5: Because they have four guys and they carry five, so

2575
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 5: one of them should make it. But I just go

2576
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:38,400
Speaker 5: back to with Douglas. I know what to Mario Douglas

2577
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 5: can bring to the offense in terms of his skill set,

2578
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 5: and I know what he's going to where his deficiencies

2579
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 5: are that his size and his play strengths are going

2580
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 5: to be issues, but he's going to bring some of

2581
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 5: that Marcus Jones explosive.

2582
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 13: Right.

2583
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 4: You know.

2584
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Speaker 5: I compared him to like Nicole Hardiman, right, you know,

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01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 5: like does he brings that little bit of of nuance

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Speaker 5: and creativity to his game, whereas with Boute he's like

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Speaker 5: a traditional receiver and you're gonna have to really have

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Speaker 5: him push one of those up veterans for a spot.

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Speaker 5: And I I just I went back with Parker. I

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Speaker 5: just think that he's unique too.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's no I agree. I would say it's

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Speaker 3: less of a chance for.

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Speaker 5: Partly, right, you know, his size and ability to play

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01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 5: the X is unique to the rest of the guys

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Speaker 5: on the on the on the roster.

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Speaker 3: So but you also save a little bit of money

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Speaker 3: there too. And you know the other part, those those

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01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 3: you know, fourth, fifth, and if you wanted to keep six,

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01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 3: those receivers need to have some versatility and play special teams.

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Speaker 3: I don't really think that that's in the skill set.

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Speaker 3: And I know Douglas has return ability. I don't think

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01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 3: you want Marcus Jones off of part returns. And Douglas

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01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 3: also had a really hard time catching the ball on punts.

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Speaker 3: He had a lot of fumbles on punt returns. I

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01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 3: don't think that sounds like someone that Bill's gonna say, oh,

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Speaker 3: we'll keep him because he could be a punt returner

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01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 3: until he proves that he can.

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Speaker 5: Bet he's definitely more naturally a kick returner, and Marcus

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Speaker 5: Jones is more naturally a punt returner. So maybe maybe

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Speaker 5: that you're enlightening.

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Speaker 3: I would rather have Marcus Jones doing both.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 3: If I can't get my dugger thing that I've been

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Speaker 3: wishing to every time and all that ain't happen, don't

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Speaker 3: tell me to wrap it up, Okay, Okay, we can

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Speaker 3: wrap it up.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna wrap it up for this show, Patriots Unfiltered.

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