1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: dot com. The radio blows Mobile lab and on your radio. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: This he's a Bloomberg business plash from Bloomberg World Handquarters. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Pellett. The Dow, the SMP NEZ stack all declining. 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: We have got the SMP five hundred index down to point, 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: down one tenth of one percent. That is a drop 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: of just about one tenth of one percent, down to 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: point at twenty three night. We have got the down 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: Jones Industrial Average falling seven points to twenty thousand, nine 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: hundred ninety nine, lore by one tenth of one percent, 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: and nastank is down two points. The drop there of 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: one tenth of one percent. The tenure down six thirty seconds, 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: with the yield of two point three seven percent. Gold 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: off a dollar fifty denounced to twelve twenty eight, up 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: by one tenth of one percent. West Texas Intermediate crued 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: up twenty three cents of arrow forty forty five on 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: w T I again there of five tenths of one percent. 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Pellett. That's a Bloomberg a business flash. I 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: thank you very much, Charlie Pebla. You're listen to Boomer 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: Markets on Bloomberg Radio. The following is from Bloomberg View 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: opinions in commentary from Bloomberg columnists. I'm Mark white House, 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: an editor from Bloomberg View. One element is missing in 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: an otherwise strong US job market. Ample hiring still isn't translating, 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: and dissimilarly, ample wage gains, particularly for those in the 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: middle of the pay scale. Average hourly earnings were up 26 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: just two point five percent from a year earlier in April, 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: close to a percentage point short of the pace that 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: prevailed before the last recession. The weakness has been concentrated 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: in middle wage industries such as durable goods, manufacturing, and construction. 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: During the past three months, hourly earnings in this group 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: have increased at an annualized pace of about one point 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: eight percent. That compares with two percent for low wage 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: and four percent for high wage occupations. Persistent demand for 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: workers may eventually push up pay, but in the longer run, 35 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: wages can't rise much faster unless productivity growth speeds up 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: a lot from its current anemic pace. One hope is 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: that companies will make more productivity enhancing investments than they 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: have been The infrastructure investments that Donald Trump has promised 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: could also help the Lately, the President has focused more 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: on tax cuts that wouldn't have the same effect. In short, 41 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: barring a lucky break, middlewage Americans could be facing a 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: lot more disappointing paychecks. I'm Mark white House. For more 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg opinion in commentary, please go to Bloomberg dot com, 44 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: slash view or view go on the Bloomberg terminal. These 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: has been Bloomberg View. Bloomerview commentaries can be heard every 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: week day at this time and also at five forty 47 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: eight eleven forty eight Wall Street time. We are in Boston, 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Markets live in the Greater Boston Chamber of Commerce 49 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: Annual meeting. Carol Master Corey Johnson, I want to talk 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: a little bit about the markets. Were in a convention 51 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: the Boston Convention Center, so you're gonna hear some noise 52 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: in the background. We want to talk attle though about 53 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: the markets as well, because we did see stocks edge 54 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: a little bit lower, mirroring what we saw in Europe 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: in the aftermath of a French election victory for emmanue 56 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: about Macron uh the investors had largely priced in let's 57 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: talk though about the market environment. Matt Melli is with us. 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: He's maaging director Equity strategis at Miller Ta back joining 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: us here at the convention center. Nice to have you here, 60 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: Nice to see you in person. Great to be here. 61 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: And the beautiful of seaport area that's been this thriving now, 62 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: especially with ge moving his headquarters. Serious, pretty amazing, right, Um, 63 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: the markets, You and I were talking a bunch, the 64 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: three of us were talking a bunch before we got going. Um, 65 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: can you make sense out of this environment? Well, it's 66 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's very difficult because we've had this weird 67 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: thing where the stock market ever since we kind of 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: had the oil crashing oil and it's in early two 69 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: thousand and six. Team, we've had these sharp rallies followed 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: by two months or two or three months of sideways 71 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: moved in a sharp rally for a couple of weeks, 72 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: and then sideways moved and we're back on one of 73 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: those uh, sideways moves. Now we've been in tight, tight 74 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: range the last two weeks, but really the last two 75 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: months we've been in a little bit of wider range. 76 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: Now we're right at the top of that range. We'll 77 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: see if you can break out or not. Uh. It 78 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: certainly is an interesting time here too. I mean, we've 79 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: got this sort of just just romantic drop we're talking 80 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: about during the comercial break involatility, and the vix has 81 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: has all sorts of problems with it, but it what 82 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: does that reflect to you? Well, it's a couple of things, 83 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: because I think we've kind of got a couple of 84 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: forces pushing against each other. Number One, we've had these 85 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: good earnings come out. They're very very strongly. That's got people, 86 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: uh for good for good reason, very excited. But on 87 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: the other side, we have valuations which are very stretched. 88 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: And then of course we're starting to see some a 89 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: little few cracks in the economic growth not here, not 90 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: only here in the US, but in China, and I'm sorry, 91 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: in the global economy, not major at all. I'm not 92 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: saying things are gonna roll over turn into recession and 93 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: like that, but we see we see some negative data 94 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: coming out of China. We see the Chinese stock market 95 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: at its lowest level of the year. Uh. And then 96 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: of course you see this uh, this city group as 97 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: you called the City Group Surprise uh economic Index, and 98 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: that's fallen off a cliff recently. So you know, even 99 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: even if for a good indicator, well, it just shows 100 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: that they're not meeting expectations. It doesn't mean things. You know, 101 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: when when is it fall off a cliff, It means 102 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: it not meeting expectations, not that the economy is. And 103 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: so I just worry that with with nothing really happening 104 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: in Washington, DC, that we might not get the growth 105 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: in the second after year that all the people can expect. Matt, 106 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about like the sentiment indicators say hey, 107 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm up beating, I'm upbeat, but when you look at 108 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: the hard data, it's not necessarily coming through. What is 109 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: it that's going to make people much more confident about 110 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: the future individuals as well as businesses. Well, you've got 111 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: a couple of things. But obviously this thing with the 112 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: technology stocks is it's it's I don't know this, it's 113 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: gonna sound weird, but I actually think it would be 114 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: great if they pull back a little bit. Uh, we 115 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: see a little bit people who'd like to buy any exactly, 116 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: that's true. And I keep saying that going well, next 117 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: pullback and then never comes back. But you have I 118 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: mean you look at a stock like Amazon, and and 119 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: of course it's a retail stock, but with the big 120 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: cloud computing, but all the the fang stocks. I mean, 121 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: they have these huge runs and you have a nine 122 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: percent move in an almost a percent move in just 123 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: sixteen months in the Amazon. I mean, if it pulled 124 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: back ten percent and probably scare a few people, however, uh, 125 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: ten percent after a hundred percent rally, that's nothing. So 126 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: it's it's the type of thing that I think people 127 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: should be, you know, preparing themselves for any kind of 128 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: a pullback so they can take advantage well off and 129 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: when it happens, the question is I guess my thing really? 130 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: Was it just technical? You'd like to see a technical correction. 131 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: It's not that you think fundamentally everything's falling apart. You 132 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: just would like to see things technically to more normal levels. Well, yes, 133 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 1: and and because the higher it goes, the more fragile 134 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: things become, you know, and and and you know, we 135 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: saw it the thing I started worrying about, and I 136 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: hear more and more suddenly that hey, that the fact 137 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: that the stock market is rallying on a just a 138 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: few names, you know, five names or shifted and suddenly 139 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: that's normal, And I'm like, what I mean two months 140 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: ago that was like, oh, everybody was worried about it. 141 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: Now there saying it's a that's okay, then well, gee's 142 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: not necessarily true. I mean, we've got the correlation still 143 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: wrapped up pretty time. And yes, you've got some stocks 144 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: that have gone bonkers, you've got your fangs or you know, 145 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: throwing your tesla as off, but you've got you've got it. 146 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: Pretty much everything is getting a bit, that's true. And 147 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: of course financials, real estate, utilities, industrials, consumer staples, materials, healthcare, 148 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: consumer discretion consumer discretionary, n INFO tech is up seventeen percent, 149 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: only energy and telecom er lagging this year. Right, well, 150 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: the one thing though, it's interesting though even though the 151 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: end I'm sorry, the financial stocks are up, they've underperformed 152 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: and and and even though the one it's weird greatly 153 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: recently because industrates have moved up a little bit in 154 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: the long term rate anyway fial, which should be and 155 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: they and they've rallied. But you know that it's funny 156 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: that the k V banky TF whatever other reasons, can't 157 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: seem to break that fifty day move in average, and 158 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: they were pretty oversold there and they haven't been able 159 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: to rally as much as I thought. And then we 160 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: saw it with the UH Capital one Financial and some 161 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: of these others. There there's some problems with loanly issues. 162 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: And of course we will worry about the auto loans 163 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: and student loans, so that we don't we should all worry, 164 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: but we don't know. That's another thing. And it's like, 165 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, last year we saw subprime lending, but uh, 166 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: a driver, I can I can't say whether it's the 167 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: biggest or a big or but as the subproble, learning 168 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: the extensions of the loans as well. And we see 169 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: record also says, hey, everything's great. Well, that's the last 170 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: tool and and in the in the toolbox for the 171 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: automaker is the only direction from there is down. We're 172 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: getting those numbers now exactly and and the cracks are 173 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: showing high. And then of course we saw Tesla the 174 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: other day. But that's that the last week you get hit. 175 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: But the exactly that's a whole different, that's in a 176 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,559 Speaker 1: different It's true, you don't know that it's a fan club. 177 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: The fundamentals that stock changing the world again. The fundamentals 178 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: of the people make fun of Einstein and some others too, 179 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: did they don't know, Well, they've been talking about his 180 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: battery for several years now, and it's not his battery. Yeah, 181 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: it's Panasonic's battery and it's a battery that Okay, well 182 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: it's not coming around. We're not gonna get awere with this. 183 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: But Matt, forty seconds left here, So what's your advice 184 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: to investors at this point? Okay, I gotta tell you 185 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: the most important advice I can give right now. This 186 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: is life or guest stuff. Okay, this week, Okay, before 187 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: you make another investment decision, right, make sure to go 188 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: out and get your mother and if your wife applies 189 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: a Mother's Day gift, okay, because you think about it. 190 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: If you you know, if you forget to do that, 191 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: it could cost you. I mean, and already warned my daughter. 192 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: I've seen my wife give first three times, and I 193 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: was like, if you can't, if you can't do something 194 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: about that, you're you're, you're, you're, you get the trouble 195 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: you stock tips, But Hallmark says, thank you, that's a 196 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: good tip. That mainly managing director Equity Strategy with Miller 197 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: tay Back and co. Listen to Bloomberg Marcus on Bloomberg 198 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: Radio of Core Johnson, Carol Master here in Boston, will 199 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: be here all week. We will stick around everybody. 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