1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: As a lead fifteen to ten touchdown. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: Chargers, what's up, guys. We're back with a Week eight 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: edition of Chargers Weekly, as always, joined by Matt Muney Smith. 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: Chargers trying to look ahead. Here Sunday night football against 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears, coming off yet another loss to the 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, and money. We're taping this on a Thursday. 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: There's been so much dialogue about this game from the 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 2: time it ended to President. I don't know how much 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: you want to dig into it, but you know, I 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: could just kind of quickly put a button on it 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: on my end and let you go. Like the offense 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: was good in the first half, they weren't in the second. 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: The defense was not good in the first half. They 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: were better in the second. Special teams had a missqueue 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: with the McCole Hardman punt return and just the complimentary 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: football was off man. And usually we're used to seeing 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: one possession football games against Kansas City Chiefs. 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: This was not. It was close. 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: You know, it was close, and that's when when you 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: think back to last year, you know, starting last year, 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: that's just we haven't seen it. We have not seen 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: that type of punt return in a long time, you know, 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 3: and so it just unfortunately came at the wrong moment, 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: and that's how you end up getting the two score game. Otherwise, 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: you know, that thing was a one score game the 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: entire second half. The defense had finally bowed up, and 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: it was a very odd game. And that the offense 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: traded punches, you know, with the Chiefs possession for possession, 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 3: they go field goal, Chargers field goal, they go touchdown, 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: Chargers go touchdown, they go touchdown, Chargers go touchdown. And 31 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: then at the end of the first and it just 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: goes to show you. I think it's such a good 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: reminder of like how hard it is to beat the Chiefs. 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: You know, the Chargers get that interception and they're moving 35 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, here we go. 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Now get take lead. 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: Now I can really put your foot on the gas 38 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: and pass goes through Keenan's hands. That would have put 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: him into plus territory. We never see that, right, he's 40 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: on that crosser right in the middle. That thing's going 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: to be a gain of about twenty puts it about 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: the Chiefs forty five. Herbert takes a terrible sack, you know, 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: and it's just like those two plays that's all it took. 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: And then Gerald Everett, you credit, you know, McDuffie nearly 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: got away from him at the right sideline to pick 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 3: up that first down on that third and sixteen or 47 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: eighteen whatever it was, but just couldn't quite get away 48 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: from him. And now you punt it away and now 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: the Chiefs come down, and I thought that was Look, 50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 3: it was a very frustrating first half for the defense. 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: You could see it in their body language on their face. 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: They did not I don't think they liked the way 53 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: they were playing. And by that obviously they didn't like 54 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 3: giving up twenty four points in the first half, But 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think they liked the style of 56 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: defense they were playing. I think there was a lot 57 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: of communication issues. Guys that were handing off, you know, 58 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 3: receivers to nobody and not quite sure where they were 59 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: supposed to be. And I thought that drive was sort 60 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: of the exclamation point. And I bring up because I 61 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 3: do think it played into how they played the second half. 62 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: I think at the end of that drive where marquezvel 63 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: Dez Scantling gets this twenty eight yard up the right 64 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 3: sideline play and again it's just like nobody's covering them, 65 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: they pin him all the way back at the four, 66 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: and the very next play is thirty seven yards right sideline, 67 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: wide open. And I think you combine all the plays 68 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: on that drive, you know, Kelsey for fifteen wide open, 69 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: and then somehow Eric Kendricks, who has really struggled in 70 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: coverage this year, finds himself on Kelsey in the red zone, 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: commits the penalty in the end zone. I mean, he 72 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: never had a chance. That thing was dead the rights 73 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: from the second the ball was snapped in. Kendricks is 74 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: playing Kelsey and trying to keep up with him, and 75 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: they score the touchdown. And I don't know, I'm not 76 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: in the locker room, Chris, but I think that was 77 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: like a last straw. And I think you very well 78 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: could have had some players on that defense go enough, 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: were let enough, you know, Mikey, And you heard the 80 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: way he sounded after the game. I think he's like, 81 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: I'm playing press I'm pressing my guy. And I think 82 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: Derwin said, I'm playing Kelsey and I'm pressing him and 83 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: where he goes I go. And you saw that in 84 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: the second half, and I think that's why it's important 85 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 3: to rehash that game, because I do think you've got 86 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: player equity in this defense. I'm Derwin James. I'm tired 87 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: of being hung out to dry. I'm gonna go and 88 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: freaking attack this thing. And I think you saw that 89 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 3: specifically from those two guys from Davis and from Durwin, 90 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: and you saw what was soft coverage become pressman and 91 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: a lot more two man where they're still playing with 92 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: they're too high, but now you're pre and along the 93 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and you're making guys work for it. 94 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 3: And it worked. And I think coach Daley acknowledged that 95 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: after the game, like, hey, we learned some things move 96 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: And I do believe. I don't want to I don't 97 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: want to speak. Maybe it's just hopeful for me, but 98 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: I do think he said moving forward, And so I'm 99 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: hopeful that with the style of play that Derwin can 100 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: play with, that Mikey can play with, and look for Mikey. 101 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: He's a free agent at the end of this year, Chris. 102 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: He's he's not a former first round pick that everybody 103 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: has their fan base knows who he is and oh, hey, 104 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: we're gonna go sign you know. So I think there's 105 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: something there, like, hey, I got to put up numbers 106 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 3: if I'm going into free agency and maybe the Chargers 107 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: are looking to draft the corner of the first round 108 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: or whatever. You know, however, that whole thing shakes out. 109 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 3: I can't be the guy on Tate that's given Tyreek 110 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: Hill and you know, Marquezveldes scantling and all that, you know, 111 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: and ceedee lamb ten yards of coverage because that's not 112 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: my game, y know. My game is I'm six three 113 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna bust you up at the line of 114 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: scrimmage and I'm gonna be able to stick with you 115 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 3: hit for hit, And we saw that last year, and 116 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: I think that's something that I'm keeping an eye on 117 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: in this game against the Bears, especially the way that 118 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: they're playing with Tyson Pagent. 119 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of pride in that locker room too, 120 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: And frankly, you're just they're sick of losing to the 121 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs because it happens every year. And what 122 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: I found, you know, kind of hard to understand that 123 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: first half is this is a divisional opponent that you 124 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: have played close. And when I say close, I mean 125 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: like multiple lead changes in the fourth quarter, close on 126 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: the verge of winning football games against the you know, 127 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: defending Super Bowl champions. So when you and DJ are 128 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: in the booth, like, like, what are you seeing in 129 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: that first half, because that like, you know who Travis 130 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: Kelsey is, you know who Patrick Mahomes is, and it 131 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: just seems like that wasn't the Chargers defense that we 132 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: are using to seeing against this team. And I just 133 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: I don't understand how it looked like that in the 134 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: first half and then it looked so drastically different in 135 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: the second half, Like, I just how how is Travis 136 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: Kelsey setting a career high in receiving yards in the 137 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: first half of that game? How is Patrick Mahomes throwing 138 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: for three hundred yards in the first half against his secondary? 139 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a divisional opponent. When you played 140 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: divisional opponent, you guys, you know the style of fight. Yeah, 141 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: And it just seemed like the first half this was 142 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: like a team that had not seen before. 143 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: It's a it's a great observation trace and you you 144 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: your tone is what our tone was a tone of 145 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: confusion of what you know, Travis Kelcey is always going 146 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: to find the soft spot. He is so good at it, 147 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: and I know they pushed. I know, coach pushed back. 148 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: And we talked to Tom te Lesk a little bit earlier, 149 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: and I wanted him to explain to people that we're 150 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: listening to the show with Petros and me and and 151 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: he said, look, it wasn't all zone. It's it's it's 152 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: a matchup zone. So there's man concepts, and I just said, 153 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: I get it. I get that, but it's still a 154 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: zone where you're, yes, it's a matchup zone, you're passing 155 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: someone off to someone else and there's nobody there, like 156 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: whatever it is that you're trying to do is not happening. 157 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 3: It hasn't happened all year. And so for me and 158 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: I am, I am, they will. They have forgotten more 159 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 3: things than I will ever know about the game of football. 160 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: I acknowledge that, and I have the van I have 161 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: the vantage point, and I have the ability to watch 162 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: replay and see what should have happened. So I'm not 163 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: pretending like I've got the answers, but I'm simply saying 164 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: for me. With Khalil Mack having seven sacks with truly 165 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: leading all rookies, and pressure with Joey Bosa, with Morgan 166 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: Fox who was going for his fifth straight game with 167 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: at least one sack. I'm gonna cut my front four 168 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: loose and I'm gonna I'm gonna trust them to get home, 169 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna play. If you want to play safe 170 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: and take the top off or Aaron protect the top 171 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: with umbrella, play your two safeties high, you know, And 172 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: then I'm gonna press because I believe they're gonna get home. 173 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 3: I believe Tully and Morgan and Joey and Khalil are 174 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: gonna get home. And then I can have I can 175 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 3: send those four and I can have seven guys back 176 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 3: and I and if I'm pressing and knocking these guys 177 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: off routes, we, like you said, the Chargers have played 178 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: them enough. 179 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: You know the rules. 180 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: You can't get too high up the field against Mahomes 181 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: and allow him to break contain and break the edge, 182 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: set the edge, keep him in the pocket, don't let 183 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: him run and play some p and let's force him 184 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: to throw it somewhere else. And they just didn't do it. 185 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: And I mean, I think it was twenty to twenty one. 186 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: I think is what he was twenty for twenty one. 187 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly what the first half was but 188 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 3: I think that was it. 189 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 190 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: He end up a forty two for four to twenty 191 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: four four touchdowns. 192 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was twenty for twenty one for 193 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: over three hundred yards. In the first half, Travis Kelcey 194 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: had ten targets for ten ten receptions on ten targets 195 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: for like one hundred and fifte hundred and forty three 196 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: or something like that. 197 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and thirty nine yards or one hundred 198 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: and forty three yards something like that in the in 199 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 2: the first half. But you know, go ahead. 200 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 3: So my thing is, let's adjust after the second possession, let's. 201 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: You know, and so we we continued to. 202 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: Be surprised, and I think it was great to see 203 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: the adjustment in the second half because, look, you're constantly 204 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: trying to figure it out. 205 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: It's chess. 206 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 3: You know, basketball and baseball are checkers, they just are. 207 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: Football is chess, and you are trying to It does 208 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: not take much to go wrong. And in watching that game, 209 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: I think Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes found something with 210 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: the middle of the field and specifically number six. I 211 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: think they found something and they just kept going back 212 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: to it over and over and over and over, and 213 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 3: they made the adjustment in the second half and they 214 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: allowed one hundred yards and seven points. And let's hope 215 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: that carries over now of this week. 216 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 217 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: You know, another development over the last three games that 218 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: has not been positive that needs to change is the 219 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: offense in the second half. They didn't score any points 220 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: against the Chiefs or the Raiders, two divisional opponents in 221 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: the second half of those games. Ten points against the Cowboys. 222 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: There's a combination of things going on right now offensively 223 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 2: with Justin's finger, to the lack of Mike Williams and 224 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: Corey Linsley, Austin Ecleck just coming back from injury, Slater's ankle. 225 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: Slater's ankle, that's a big one. That's a huge one. 226 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: It's a huge one. And also just you know the 227 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: young guards. You know, maybe there's some growing pains going 228 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 2: on there, you know, you when you have Chris Jones 229 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: on the other side too, It's it's something where you 230 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 2: have to take that into account. But offensively, money as 231 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 2: we look at the injury report, Jailed Ever got hurt 232 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: in that game. Joshua Palmer was a DNP in practice 233 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: on Wednesday. You know, we talked so much about Quintin 234 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: Johnson last week just two targets, one catch for twenty yards. 235 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: So what is this offense gonna look like on Sunday 236 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: Night against the Bears. And you know, I put something 237 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: out on Twitter, like the last three weeks, they've been 238 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: really good on defense. They've allowed just fourteen points six 239 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: points of games. I know it was against the Commanders 240 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 2: and against the Raiders and against the Vikings, but the 241 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: Chargers barely beat the Vikings and it took a possession 242 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: to seal it against the Raiders. And the Commanders have 243 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: have up and down performances offensively this year. So their 244 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 2: defense is playing better. And they have this rookie quarterback. 245 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: And when you don't have a ton of tape on 246 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: a guy, I think it makes it a little bit 247 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: more I wouldn't say difficult, but you have to kind 248 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: of leave it up to the imagination on what he's 249 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: going to provide for them. 250 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: Well, I think number one, I am very hopeful that 251 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: we see what we saw in the second half. I 252 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 3: cannot imagine playing a soft zone against and providing cushion 253 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: to Beijing. That's the one thing. I know it's only 254 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: a game and a half, but that ball is out 255 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: quid short quick throws. He is not holding onto the ball, 256 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 3: he is not pushing it downfield. It is short quick throws. 257 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: His average I'm looking at it right now, his average 258 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 3: per attempt is five point seven. 259 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: It's nothing. 260 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: So you got to press. You have got to be 261 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: up on the line of scrimms. Do not let Dj 262 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: Moore get a bunch of these quick throws. 263 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: Yack. 264 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: He's a really good yards after catch receiver. We've already 265 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: seen justin Jefferson one eight, Tyreek Kill two fifteen, ced 266 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: Lamb one seventeen, Travis Kelcey Won's seventy nine. There's one 267 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: guy that I do not want to see beat the 268 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: Chargers in this game, and that's DJ Moore, who right 269 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: now has fifty one targets. The next highest is thirty 270 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: two for the tight end comet. I mean, Mooney has 271 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: got less than one half of the targets that Moore has. 272 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: Forty catches, six hundred and thirty six yards and five touchdowns, 273 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: thirteen explosive plays. Get Mikey Davis on them, jam him 274 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 3: and force Bagent to get uncomfortable in the pocket because 275 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: you got Tully, Like I said, you've got that defensive 276 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: line and that's that's what I'd like to see. I 277 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: want to see Khalil touley Bosa and at the same time, 278 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: that's what I would love to see those guys out there. 279 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: They have created incredible opportunities for each other when they're 280 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: out there, and so I'd like to see that be 281 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: predominantly what they're working on the defensive line. I want 282 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: to see these guys up on the line of scrimmage, 283 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: the secondary players, because Baigent wants that ball out and 284 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: that's what he did as shepherd. You know, I was 285 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: talking to Tom Telesco about him and he's like, oh, 286 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: we scouted him, we liked him a lot, you know, 287 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: and he ended up playing in the Super Bowl, and 288 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: everybody that was at the Senate at the I'm sorry, 289 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl, and everybody was at the Senior Bowl 290 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: talked about how much they liked him. So, you know, 291 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: they they know, they actually did some work on Beajent 292 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: now you know, did did the entire defensive coaching staff. No, 293 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: like they've got to catch up. But at least and 294 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: we know how much Brandon invests in the draft. You know, 295 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: he was the guy that was really you know, puffing 296 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: his chest out about Quinton, So we know that he's invested, 297 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 3: you know, and he is is part of this process. 298 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: And he said, yes, I watched a lot of bigent 299 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: So at least there's that right that these coaches, specifically Brandon, 300 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: our head coach, you know, is very you know, is 301 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: very invested in the draft. So he's got a lot 302 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: of bagent tape that he's watched already, and I think knows, Okay, 303 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: this is a guy that's bang bang, snap three step 304 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: boom gone. So you got to play prece and force 305 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: those first raids and those hot raads to not be 306 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: there offensively. I you know, Chris, I wish I had 307 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: an answer. You know, the defense has been getting gashed 308 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: for the most part all season long. You know, the 309 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: offense has had these games like the running game against Miami, 310 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: the passing game against Minnesota, the first half all around 311 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: against the Chiefs and the Raiders, and like, I don't know, 312 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of the offense. I 313 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: just I can't figure it out. And I'm sure it's 314 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: frustrating for Kellen Moore where you have a first half 315 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: like you have against Kansas City and then you can't 316 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: get anything going in the second half, and it's punt punt, turnover, punt, 317 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: like it's you know, three and out, three and out, Yeah, 318 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: three and out where you ran the ball three straight 319 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: times like it's and you know, Justin Herbert as your quarterback, 320 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: like it is a very strange time to try to 321 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: figure out what's going on with the offense. 322 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: Well, one of your keys to potential victory against the 323 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: Chiefs was to get Austin Eckler involved in the passing game. 324 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: One catch, one yard, two targets. I know he was 325 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: out of the game for a little bit, but he 326 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: still had fourteen carries forty five yards. Austin hasn't seemed 327 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: like Austin Eckler since he's been back. And I continue 328 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: to be a little confused about the Quentin Johnson thing. Man, 329 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: like just two targets. If Joshua Palmer is limited or 330 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: does not play in this game and Gerald Everett's out, 331 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: you have no choice. Quentin Johns's gonna have to be 332 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: a part of this thing. 333 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: I think, you know it. 334 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 3: It hit me when I was and I think it 335 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: was Popper that asked the question he had because I 336 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: can't imagine any other of the Rioters having asked the question, 337 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 3: but he specifically after the game brought up what was 338 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: a critical miss on third down to Keenan where Willie 339 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 3: Gay got his hands on it and popped it up 340 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: in the air, and Popper had mentioned, hey, I see it. 341 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: You know, it's a right to left progression. He gets 342 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: to Keenan and Keenan's flashing open, so he cuts it loose, 343 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: and there's Gay reading reading the play and gets his 344 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: hands up and knocks it in complete. But if he 345 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 3: goes one more, there's Quintin on that quick slant you know, 346 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: a QJ special that you know that he that he 347 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: ran repeatedly at TCU and really was kind of his 348 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 3: was his calling card, right, these quick slants that he's 349 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: he's a yack monster and he's just going to turn 350 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 3: a five yard slant into a thirty yard gain and 351 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 3: it was a flashed wide open and and Coach Staley's 352 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 3: answer was basically yes, you know, he was excited even 353 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 3: a little bit. He's like, yeah, you read it exactly right. 354 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: It's a right to left progression. And when Justin got 355 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 3: to Keenan, he sees he's open and he makes that pass, 356 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: you know, because it looks like it's going to be 357 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: a completion. So my takeaway from that is, and again 358 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 3: I'm I want to make sure I qualify these I'm 359 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: not out there that the bodies have not been on 360 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: in my lap the entire game. But I'm just going 361 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: back to twenty twenty and how comfortable he was with 362 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 3: the worst offensive line that we have seen since the Chargers, 363 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: you know, had that the Chargers have had since twenty seventeen. 364 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty was the worst offensive line that he was 365 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: under pressure every snap, and yet he would still work 366 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: through all of his progressions just because he knew. Okay, 367 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: I know, I know it's a it's a three man route, 368 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 3: and I know what that third man's got, So let 369 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: me just take a peek. I know Keenan's flashing open, 370 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: but let me take a peek because I like that matchup. 371 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: It's one on one, Quintin's got the inside. Does he 372 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 3: get inside? 373 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: You know? 374 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 3: Can can he force that corner to not get inside 375 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: leverage and pop this thing? Because the pocket hadn't collapsed yet. 376 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 3: It's clean. And I bring it up because, like, to me, 377 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: that was the issue with the Joe Lombardi offense. Is 378 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: it was, here's your route map. As soon as you 379 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: see somebody open balls out, that's the Drew Brees like 380 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna bang bang bank Okay, open go, 381 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 3: And it's only four air yards and it's a six 382 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: yard completion. Like I want to get back to that. 383 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 3: You know what, I'm gona hold it. I'm gonna roll 384 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 3: out if I got to, because I think my guys 385 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 3: are gonna win and and let's go win. And like 386 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 3: that's what Patrick Mahomes was doing. You know, he was 387 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 3: just hanging and he has that rep you know, that 388 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 3: relationship with his receivers where they're like, oh, he's gonna 389 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 3: he's gonna break free and we're gonna you know, this 390 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: thing's gonna go from six yards to to thirty and 391 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: like I just want him to stop going. You know, 392 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: here's my progression one, No, two, Yes, let's go. 393 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: I want it to be. 394 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: Okay, the pocket's clean, Let's take a peek at three, 395 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 3: let's see what it looks like. And there it is. 396 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 3: He's got the inside. Let's hit him and let's just 397 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: see if he can go. And so I think it's 398 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: residual from the last two years under Joe Lombardi where 399 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: it's just muscle memory and it's you know, and in 400 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: Justin's defense, we're talking about, you know, the third offensive coordinator, 401 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: play caller in four years. So it's not easy, you know, 402 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: it's not easy to break that muscle memory and those 403 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: habits and those rules and everything that you've been conditioned 404 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: to do for two years. And hey, let's change it up, man, 405 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 3: Let's hang on to it. Let's hang on to it. 406 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 3: We got if we got to, you know. 407 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: And so that was just kind of my takeaway on 408 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: that play. And and you. 409 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 3: Know, I don't know, I just I feel like I 410 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: keep going back to twenty twenty, yeah, and just thinking 411 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: about how different it looked, and just how different the 412 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: explosive plays looked, how different the shot plays looked, how 413 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 3: athletic Herbert looked when he was just I'm trying to 414 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 3: think the best way to describe it. And again I 415 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 3: have no idea if it's if it's correct, if it's not, 416 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 3: But like, I just feel like, man, that rookie year, 417 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 3: Herbert was just out there, like his hair was on 418 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 3: fire man, and he's just like whatever, let's freaking go, 419 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: and he's just cutting loose. And now it feels like, oh, 420 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: I know the I've mastered this textbook, I know all 421 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 3: the answers, I know what this play is supposed to do. 422 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: And he's so smart that he's got all that information now, 423 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: and I almost feel like it's a little paralysis by 424 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: analysis and we've lost a little bit of that, just 425 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: that nuance, that feel for the position that we saw 426 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: that first year where it was, Hey, I'm the most 427 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: talented dude out here in the league. 428 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: Watch this, Watch what I'm about to I want to 429 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: get some of that back. 430 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: The There is nobody built like me. There is nobody 431 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: with the arm I have. There is nobody with the 432 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 3: athleticism I have. At six foot six two and forty, 433 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna wreck you. And it's not okay. I've got one, two, three, 434 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna come back to two and let's 435 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: I want less of that, and I want a little 436 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: bit more. 437 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: Of the Let's go, yeah, cut loose, let's go. Good 438 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: luck stopping this. 439 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: It's a great point. Take a quick break, and we'll 440 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: dig into it a little bit more. 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When I hear Patrick Mahomes talk a 465 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: lot of times, he's saying Travis is just running a 466 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 2: route and I'm gonna find him, and it's a lot 467 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: of off script and you see Mahomes on the move 468 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: and just using his God given talent to just make 469 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: amazing throws and amazing decisions the rookie season. Now this 470 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: is his fourth year. Obviously he's more comfortable in the NFL. 471 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: But you mentioned having this Joe Lombardi offense the last 472 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: two years, and if you know Justin Herbert, you know 473 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: how maniaqual he is about studying and getting things correct. 474 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: What's the percentage of the Joe Lombardi kind of offense 475 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: that's still in this Kellen Moore offense and what Kellen 476 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: Moore wants to do, because again they only have seven 477 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: games together, right, it takes a while to learn somebody. 478 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the more kind of 479 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: underrated I think storylines to start this year is that, yes, 480 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: we all were expecting bombs away with Kellen Moore and 481 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: obviously having healthy personnel. To this point, both have not 482 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: really been the case. Do you think it's more a 483 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: product of, Hey, we need more time on task and 484 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: Justin needs to get more comfortable with what Kellen wants 485 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: to do as opposed to maybe kind of using what 486 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: he's done in the last couple of years. 487 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 3: I think it's a great question. I don't know. I 488 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 3: don't know the answer. I don't know how much of 489 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 3: it Kellen kept. Because you know, Justin said that he's 490 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: comfortable with it. I think I like that you because 491 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: you know what. I love that you brought up Mahomes 492 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 3: and Kelsey because I think that's what we saw against 493 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 3: Minnesota with Justin and Keenan. It's like, Hey, we know 494 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: each other, we know exactly we are on the same wavelength, 495 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: We're sharing the same football brain. These guys want to 496 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 3: blitz us. Eighty percent of the time, we're gonna roast you. 497 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: And I think you saw that, and that's what Patrick 498 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 3: Mahomes and Travis Kelsey saw against the Chargers. Oh, you're 499 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 3: gonna play you know, a matchup zone, or you're gonna 500 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 3: try to hand me off from a corner to a 501 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 3: safety or a linebacker, or you're gonna give me a 502 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 3: free release. Oh watch what we're gonna do to you. 503 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: And I think we saw that against Minnesota, and that's 504 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 3: how Keenan has that, you know, that record setting day, 505 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 3: So we know that that those two have that special connection. 506 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 3: I also think, and and I love that you brought 507 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 3: this up that when you when when you see Mahomes, 508 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 3: you know, at the lectern and when you hear the 509 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: way he talks about the game and the way that 510 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: he describes there's I'm trying to think of the right way. 511 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if the right word is visceral, but 512 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: there's just there's this natural feeling to it, like, Hey, 513 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: I'm I'm feeling the game. 514 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: I'm out there and. 515 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 3: And the game is speaking to me and I'm speaking 516 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: to it. This maybe this will work as a metaphor. 517 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: I think that they're Justin and Patrick are walking into 518 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 3: They're walking down a university hallway for finals, and Justin 519 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: is taking a left into a classroom with a scientific 520 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: calculator and a slide rule, and Patrick Mahomes has taken 521 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 3: a right with a blue composition book. And that's what 522 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: it looks like to me, is that there is this 523 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 3: creation versus execution. And I think that I think that's 524 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 3: kind of what you're speaking to, Like there's and I 525 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: think that's Look, Patrick Mahomes has been with Andy Reid 526 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 3: and Travis Kelcey for seven years now, right or six 527 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,239 Speaker 3: years now, and so like that's that's the relationship, and 528 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 3: that's sort of the relationship you not only have with 529 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: each other. 530 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: But with the offense. 531 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: And and so Justin this is his first year with 532 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: Kellen Moore, you know, And and I think that's why, 533 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 3: you know, you know, outside look, outside of Travis Kelsey, 534 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes has nothing going on with those receivers. 535 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: He has really struggled. 536 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: And outside of Keenan Allen since Mike Williams went down, 537 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: Justin's got nothing going with anybody else. 538 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: So it's like there is that parallel. 539 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: I think it's you know, you got to you got 540 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: to point out that, yeah, that's the case with Mahomes 541 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: and and Kelsey. This offense has not been explosive. You know, 542 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: it had been it had averaged twenty one points per 543 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: game outside of the forty one they put up against 544 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 3: the Bears in it's other five games, so other four games. 545 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: So I think it's important to remember that as as well. 546 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I feel like that's kind of 547 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: what what we're getting at right is like just a 548 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: little more natural, like you you know, the and I 549 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: think this works for both sides of the ball, right, 550 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: Like I remember when Chip Kelly showed up at Oregon 551 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 3: and everybody was like, why aren't we all doing this? 552 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: Man? 553 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: Like what this is changing football? Like the tempo, the speed, 554 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: the run game, and then these explosive passes off of it. 555 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: They're they're losing the time of possession, you know, contest 556 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: by twenty five minutes, and yet they're scoring seventy points. 557 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: What's going on? And why isn't USC doing this? And and 558 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: I think you know, the point that was brought up 559 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: was in Chip set and he's like, well, I don't 560 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: have those players, you know, don't I don't have the 561 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: five stars from southern California. I'm at this is before 562 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: Oregon became the powerhouse, right. He's like, I'm in Oregon. 563 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: I got two stars and three stars, and I'm convincing 564 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: guys to move from southern California to a place where 565 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: it rains three hundredays a year. He's like, so, yeah, 566 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 3: we gotta have the system, like on defense and on offense, 567 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 3: charge's got dogs Like on that defense, cut the dogs loose, like, 568 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: don't worry about having the perfect scheme and the perfect play. 569 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 3: And it's like you got Keenan Allen, and you got 570 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, and you got Austin Eckler and you got 571 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: you know, just let's get a little bit. I don't know, 572 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if that makes sense, but like to me, 573 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: it's like, let's be more. Let's be more Alabama and 574 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: let's be less Oregon. Like let's let's say we got 575 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: the best players. You know, we're gonna go out there 576 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 3: and play football and you're not gonna be able to 577 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: keep up with us because we're just better. We're just better. 578 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 3: And so I'd like to see a little bit more 579 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 3: of that, if it makes sense. I'm gonna throw this 580 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: ball to Austin Eckler on a smoke route and I 581 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: know your linebacker standing right there, but guess what he's 582 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: gonna miss. And then the safety's gonna try to tackle him. 583 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 3: He's gonna truck him, and it's gonna be a twelve 584 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 3: yard game. Like I want to see more of that. 585 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, going back to Austin like, why do you think 586 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: we're not seeing the dump offs to Austin? Why do 587 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: you think we're not you know, because we go back 588 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: to his resume, you know, before the season started, thirty 589 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: eight total touchdowns over two years. He was a touchdown machine. 590 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: He was a reception machine. And we were expecting maybe 591 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: those those touches or those receptions to maybe go down 592 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: a little bit because we expected Justin to be a 593 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: little bit more vertical. But right now, like it looks 594 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: like they're not even attempting them, and I just that 595 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: has to change. Against the Chicago Bears, and you know, 596 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: I know that there's no Cory Lindsay, but the running 597 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 2: game outside of Joshua Kelly was just you know, after 598 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: that run, there has to be a consistent running game. 599 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: And you know some people could say, oh, well, you know, 600 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: running game doesn't matter. It does matter. It does matter 601 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: because time of possession, your defense doesn't have to be 602 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: on the field all game, and to be balanced is 603 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: a good thing. So I'd like to see the Chargers 604 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: get some sort of running game going because money, I 605 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: feel like every single year we talk about who's the 606 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: compliment to Austin, right, and sometimes it's Joshua, sometimes it's not. 607 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: And now we're seeing Austin, you know, put up two 608 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: point eight or three point one yards of pop since 609 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: his return, and I just there needs to be a 610 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: consistent presence there, man, And I don't know when we're 611 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: gonna see it. I hope we see it on Sunday night. 612 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: So here, I'm just pulling up the second half against 613 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 3: the Chiefs, right and this, you know, you bring up 614 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 3: the running game. So on the drive after the fumble 615 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: that you know the Chiefs opened up with, they get 616 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 3: the ball, they get it all the way down to 617 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 3: the Kansas City nine right, first and ten, Austin Eckler 618 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: five yards, first and ten, you get a Justin Herbert 619 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: pass to Keenan Allen nineteen yards. Next, first and ten, 620 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: Austin Eckler three yards, first and goal, Austin Eckler one yard. 621 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: What stands out there to you? First and ten, Keenan 622 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: Allen nineteen yards. Gotta start throwing the ball on first down, 623 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: you know, and it's just like next possession, Austin Eckler 624 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 3: five yards. You know, then they ran out. This was 625 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: the one where they had the three and out with 626 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 3: three straight run plays. So next possession, you know, first 627 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: and ten incomplete pass and then you had a penalty 628 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 3: and it was a just unraveled from there. But like 629 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 3: I think, and I think keen I think the Kellen 630 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: is trying to do that right, He's trying to mix 631 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: it up. But what I think you have to do 632 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: is let's try to find those those defense beating plays 633 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: on first down. I think that's what they really need 634 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 3: to find in the passing game, those quick slants to 635 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: to to Quinton. You know that we know how how 636 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: badly Keenan can can break guys up, you know, can 637 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 3: break guys down and bust them up on routes like, 638 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: let's get some of those. Let's just mix those in 639 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: again to get that defense on its heels. So like that, 640 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 3: that to me is the way to try to open 641 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 3: up the running game is let's let's make sure we're 642 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 3: not running on first down, you know, as as much 643 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 3: as and and look, I don't have the breakdowns and 644 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 3: may not have it right, you know, I took a 645 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 3: small sample size there, but it did feel like they 646 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 3: were running a lot on first down. And I'd love 647 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: to Yeah, I'm looking at here's the here's the field 648 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 3: goal drive. Their first score of the game, Kelly up 649 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: the middle for two on a first down Davis left end. 650 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: No gain. 651 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: Uh, there's a okay, So here you go first and 652 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 3: ten Herbert deep pass left to Keenan Allen for twenty 653 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 3: six yards. It's like, let's let's you know, let's get 654 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 3: a little more of that going, you know. And I 655 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 3: think that's how you open up the run game, Chris is, 656 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 3: because they're not going to honor play action. They're they're playing. Look, 657 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: they're they're not afraid of passes downfield, they're just not. 658 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 3: So they're not going to commit resources there. So they're 659 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 3: gonna play with heavy boxes and you're running into heavy 660 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 3: boxes and it's not easy. And we saw that last year, 661 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 3: right just because the explosive plays weren't there. Now it's 662 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: tough to push the ball downfield with Mike Williams gone, 663 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 3: and that's what's changed a lot, right with him down, 664 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: So you've got to try to find You've got to 665 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 3: try to find those plays. 666 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: I thought Joshua Palmer played great. His injury status right now, 667 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: keep an eye on that, Gerald Everett, keep an eye 668 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 2: on that, because that's gonna definitely dictate what they do 669 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: and what the game plan could be on Sunday night. 670 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: You flip it to the Chicago offense and you know 671 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 2: we we mentioned beij it, but they found something in 672 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: this running game. It's amazing to me that Deontay Foreman 673 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 2: it took him this long to actually get forman involved 674 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: based on what he did in Carolina last year. One 675 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty total yards, three total touchdowns against the 676 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: Raiders last week, and that was a beatdown man, I 677 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: mean thirty to twelve a Raiders team coming off a 678 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: couple of wins too, going to Chicago, getting beat by 679 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback and just getting abused by the running game. 680 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 2: Deontay Foreman, five point six a pop. You mentioned Dj Moore. 681 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: Dj Moore had two hundred and thirty yards against the 682 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 2: Commanders a few thursdays ago. Any step they said, he 683 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: stepped out of bounds on another one that was going 684 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 2: to be a touchdown. So just do the math on 685 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: the night that DJ Moore had and what he could 686 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: have had uh against the Commanders. Those are the two 687 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: weapons that have to be slowed and stopped, uh Foreman. 688 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: And you mentioned DJ Moore earlier, but Deontay Foreman is 689 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 2: another another guy that that's kind of emerging for Chicago 690 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: these last couple of weeks. 691 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 3: I think I want to say, outside of Christian McCaffrey 692 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: with San Francisco, nobody had more rushing yards from the 693 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: time of that trade. Foreman had the second most to McCaffrey. 694 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 3: That's how effective he was. For Steve Wilkes, yeah, in Carolina, 695 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 3: and this was the first time he really got a 696 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 3: crack at it, you know, with with the injuries to 697 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 3: to Khalil Herbert and and everything that that that Chicago's 698 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 3: been going through. 699 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: They ran the ball. They ran the ball well. 700 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 3: Last year they're all they're on line does not pass 701 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: block well, but they run blocked pretty darn well. So 702 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 3: the one thing that's interesting about this year right is 703 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 3: for the Sids, Brandon Staley showed up and so this 704 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: is the worst run defense in the in the league. 705 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 3: Run defense pretty good. Now, you know the run defense 706 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 3: specifically because of Tully, you know, because you have Khalil 707 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 3: Mack on one edge, and Tully has said, I'm just 708 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 3: learning at the altar of Khalil Mack. So you've got 709 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: all of that power at the other edge. And I 710 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 3: think you've seen how much more effective they've been against 711 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 3: the run. So that that's look, they've got us. They 712 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 3: don't want Tyson Bagent throwing the ball thirty times in 713 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 3: this game. They want him throwing it, you know, seventeen 714 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: to twenty one times, and you know, for first downs 715 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 3: on third and three and third and fours. So that's 716 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 3: what they're that I would assume that's what what coach 717 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 3: Eberfluce wants to do. So you got to slow down 718 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 3: for him for sure. I mean, he's, like you said, 719 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 3: he's got a couple of touchdowns last week. Not having 720 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 3: justin fields and that threat to run when things break 721 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 3: down is such a huge advantage for the Chargers. Like 722 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 3: to have someone that's not quite capable of that type 723 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 3: of running and that type of athleticism is a big 724 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 3: win for them. So the thing about the Raiders defense 725 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 3: is not good, you know, and that's why the Chargers 726 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 3: put up twenty four in the first half. They should 727 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 3: have put up forty points in that game, and for 728 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 3: whatever reason, their offense just shut down. So we know, yeah, 729 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 3: the Chargers are capable of putting that out. The Miami 730 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: defense is not good and they put up over thirty points. 731 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 3: The Vikings defense is not good and they put up 732 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 3: over thirty points, so we know they've been able to 733 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 3: get after defenses that aren't great. Cowboys defense is great. 734 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 3: The Chiefs defense it's pretty damn good. It's it's pretty 735 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 3: damn good to great this season it has been so 736 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 3: this Bears defense is okay, it's okay. So, and let's 737 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 3: not forget they had Brian Hoyer starting at quarterback. It 738 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 3: was really thirty to six. That last touchdown was was 739 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 3: a throwaway, you know, down thirty six with no time left. 740 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 3: Aidan O'Connell gets putting into a game and you know 741 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 3: he's just dinking and dunking down the field because they're 742 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 3: playing you know, soft coverage in that moment. But just 743 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 3: I want to bring this up for yeah, because you 744 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 3: know what family trust respect, right, Yeah, Brian Hoyer has 745 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 3: not want to start. 746 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 1: He's last. Yeah, he does not want to start. 747 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 2: What are they doing? Like, like, listen, this is an 748 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: a Raiders podcast that work, right, Why aren't you starting 749 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell in that game? 750 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: Exactly? 751 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: You may win that game. 752 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 3: The guy, the guy has not want to start in 753 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: like three years, four years, five years, six years, whatever 754 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 3: it is and you're starting him. 755 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: What do you expect to get out of that? 756 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 3: So like that's you know, that's something to take into consideration. 757 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 3: You know, do I think the Bears are a threat? 758 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 2: Yes? 759 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,240 Speaker 3: Do I think They're a severe threat. Now, the Chargers 760 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 3: better win this game. They better win this game, and 761 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 3: I'd like to see them win it in decisive fashion, 762 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: so you know, they can get some rest, they'll have 763 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 3: that extra day. It's it's funny, right, We're gonna play 764 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 3: three primetime games in four weeks, two Monday nighters and 765 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 3: a Sunday. It's like, let's let's remind the country how 766 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 3: special Herbert is in primetime and how much fun and 767 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 3: why this team got six primetime games in the first place. 768 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 3: As you know, we're now going to get our second 769 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,439 Speaker 3: and third of the six after this. Remember we still 770 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 3: have a Sunday night against the Ravens, a Saturday night 771 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 3: against the Bills, and a Thursday night against the Raiders 772 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 3: on top of the Monday night or a week from 773 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 3: you know, in week nine against the Jets. So it's 774 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 3: a perfect opportunity for them to remind everyone. Yeah, there's 775 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 3: a reason why. There's there's a reason why the Chargers 776 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 3: are in primetime and this is a perfect game to 777 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 3: do that. 778 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 2: A couple of things before we get out of here. 779 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 2: I want you to find Tyson Bagen's father and arm 780 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 2: wrestle him in the radio pregame and we tape it. 781 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 2: That's what I like to see if Justin producer Justin 782 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 2: can make that happen. 783 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, get him in the boot. 784 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 3: It looked like it would look like let's name of 785 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 3: the super hell Boy. His arm compared to mine would 786 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 3: be like the red arm of hell Boy, and he 787 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 3: just rip it off and beat me over. 788 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: The head with it. 789 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 3: Although I'll say this over the top, wildly underrated cable 790 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 3: classic film was stallone, centered around professional arm rush wrestling 791 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: as he's seeking to win a tractor a semi rig 792 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 3: in the arm Wrestling Championships in Las Vegas, while also 793 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 3: getting back custody of his son from his evil father 794 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 3: in law, who I believe is Robert Losha. So there 795 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 3: we go. 796 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: There's a little I'm wrestling fun for you. 797 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 2: Chargers. Fis watched that movie before. 798 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 1: It really is great. 799 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 3: It really is as good of a you know, terrible 800 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 3: in the theaters, But you know what, it's cable. It's 801 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 3: three o'clock. I just get home from school. I'm gonna 802 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna clock in here and get a cool probably 803 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 3: eighty three Minutes's maby. 804 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: What that movie was? 805 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 3: You know, all the montages, like five or six montages 806 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 3: in there. 807 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It's peak Sly. It is Peak Sly. 808 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 2: Final thing charges too and four. You mentioned this before 809 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 2: the Cowboys game and you said, listen, we had two 810 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 2: Super Bowl contending teams up in the Cowboys and the Chiefs. 811 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 2: If you drop to two and four, again, it's not ideal. 812 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 2: It's far from ideal in terms of winning the AFC West. 813 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 2: But you said you and DJ were talking about the 814 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 2: schedule down the stretch, Bears, then Jets, then home for 815 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: the Lions, Packers, and then a huge showdown with the 816 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 2: Ravens on Sunday Night football. So we're gonna give fans 817 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 2: a glimmer of hope right now if you can get 818 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 2: these next two and get to four and four, confidence 819 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 2: going into a game against the Lions, a big game 820 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 2: against the Lions, going to Lambeau against a struggling Packers team. 821 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,959 Speaker 2: And then right now the Ravens are playing fantastic good 822 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,919 Speaker 2: and they're in the conversation for one of the best 823 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 2: teams in the AFC, So what has showed done? That's 824 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 2: going to be But you know what, for for as 825 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 2: poorly as the season has started, there's hope. But you 826 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 2: have to win Sunday to get to Monday night. 827 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt. It's a good stretch we thought. 828 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 3: I think I think realistically, if you were being realistic, 829 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 3: you were like, Okay, four and two would be great. 830 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 3: I can see three and three, you know, I can 831 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 3: see the path for three and three here. If things don't, 832 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 3: if things go bad, three and three is what we're 833 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 3: looking at. You know, it's the loss to Tennessee that 834 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 3: has got this sour taste in our mouth. If this 835 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 3: team is three and three and you're like, all right, 836 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 3: you lose. You know, they shootout with Miami, you know, 837 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 3: you lose a street fight with the Cowboys, you had 838 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 3: to go to Kansas City. They're on a mini BI, 839 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 3: you're on a short week. All right, we're three and three. 840 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 3: So that's I think important to keep in perspective is 841 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 3: it's really one game. To me, I would have been able. 842 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 3: I could envision a three and three path and it's like, Okay, 843 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 3: you're three and three. Now let's flip that switch. Now 844 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 3: you got Bears, Jets, Lions, Packers, Ravens after the Ravens 845 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 3: as Patriots. I think in New England it's like, this 846 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 3: is where you got to flip that switch and go 847 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 3: and this is how you get to nine ten wins 848 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 3: and try to punch your ticket. It's this part of 849 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 3: the season right here, because I think the Broncos are 850 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 3: in this stretch. The Raiders are in this stretch, you know, 851 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 3: over the next eight games before we get you know, 852 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 3: to the final three. So that to me is it's 853 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 3: important for them to start this thing off and not 854 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 3: just with a win, but with a convinced playing complimentary, 855 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 3: excellent football in all three phases. Is I think important 856 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 3: to come out of this game. 857 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 2: You need your first convincing win of the year. Right 858 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 2: So I think as breathe a little bit and be like, okay, good, 859 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 2: you know, this is what the team should look like, 860 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 2: you know, in primetime against a struggling Bears team. Chargers 861 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 2: are favorites in their next four games right now as 862 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 2: we sit here, So it's an opportunity to gain some 863 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 2: hay and just kind of see what happens. You know, 864 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 2: we've seen, you know, everybody kind of wrote the Vikings off. 865 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 2: Guess what the Vikings are getting back in the playoffs 866 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 2: in the NFC right now after beating the Night or 867 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 2: the exactly, you know, and they could beat the Chargers 868 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 2: and they be in the playoffs right now. So we 869 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 2: tend to say must win. I do think that last 870 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 2: Sunday Money was it was a must win for the 871 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 2: AFC West. I think the AFC West is gonna be 872 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 2: very difficult to win, to win right now. But as 873 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 2: far as the AFC, everybody's kind of jumbled up and 874 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 2: there's all takes a few weeks to get hot. So 875 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 2: all right, that's gonna do it for us. Always appreciate 876 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 2: you guys listening, watching on on YouTube for money. I'm Chris. 877 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.