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Speaker 1: You know, we've basically been out there alone playing the

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Speaker 1: words of President Trump and Mark meadows In, Cash Patel,

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Speaker 1: a hearsay witness Cassidy Hutchinson relaying, you know, a story

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Speaker 1: Cassidy Hutchinson. She claimed that this note written on January

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Speaker 1: Miss Hutchinson. Could you look at the exhibit that we're

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Speaker 1: That's a note that I wrote at the direction of

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Speaker 1: But that's your handwriting, Miss Hutchinson, that's my handwriting. Hirshman

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Speaker 1: follow the science. There is a science to handwriting analysis.

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Speaker 1: There is an NBC News story that Biden plans to

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Speaker 1: out on the other hand, that Cassidy Hutchinson's Trump assault

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Speaker 1: Both Mark Meadows and Rudy Giuliani have denied Cassidy Hutchinson's pardon,

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Speaker 1: difficult to ascertain. Bring in handwriting experts. That's not difficult

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Speaker 1: author his podcast as the Brief, Alan Dershowitz, attorney, Harvard

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Speaker 1: the program. Professor Dershwitz, let me start with you. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's no stopping this committee, Jean, and the only answer

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Speaker 1: What was the level of interest you were in being

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Speaker 1: so they just motored past it with talks of Afghanistan

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Speaker 1: as was witnessed by the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson, who

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Speaker 1: Cassidy Hutchinson about form of President Trump's behavior in the

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Speaker 1: it goes one step further. I know Tony Ronado and

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Speaker 1: Bobby Agle. I served with them their career service members

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Speaker 1: the testimony they already have. And that's why they don't

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Speaker 1: want to entertain the thought of allowing two excellent Secret

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Speaker 1: We've got one other contradiction, and that is that the

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Speaker 1: quickly determine whether or not it was her handwriting or Hirshman's. Well,

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Speaker 1: even if they don't want to believe the science behind

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Speaker 1: his junior staff work. There is no documentation that she

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Speaker 1: had no operational authority to do so. The President's attorney,

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Speaker 1: on the other hand, Pershman, who I worked as, would

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Speaker 1: be directly involved with engaging and creating documents to that effect.

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Speaker 1: So that's how the Whitehouse works, not by being reported

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Speaker 1: quick break. We'll come back more with the former Pentagon

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Speaker 1: Chief of Staff. Cash Patel is also the author of

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Speaker 1: a new children's book, The Plot Against the King, number

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Speaker 1: one New York Times bestseller for kids, and you can

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Speaker 1: get it on Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, bookstores, everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I would considue Cash Patello's with us former chief of

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Speaker 1: want to focus on two more things, and I've less

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Speaker 1: corroborating the story of the other four people in that

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Speaker 1: memorandums in the Department of Defense which we demanded that

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Speaker 1: Millie's name, and Secretary of the Army who the National

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Speaker 1: these delegation memos accompanying president authorization. Those memos would be unconstitutional,

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Speaker 1: unlawful if the president never authorized the National Guard, So

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Speaker 1: either everybody in the chain of command for the National

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Speaker 1: DoD under Joe Biden, didn't they do a full evaluation

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Speaker 1: and of the events of January sixth about the Department

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Speaker 1: of Defense is handling of events that day in the

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Speaker 1: lead up to that day, and didn't they give you

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Speaker 1: a clean bill of health that you did everything perfectly.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, they said the Department of Defense in

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Speaker 1: the lead up to and on January six acted without

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Speaker 1: undue delay, acted appropriately, acted swiftly, and abided by the

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Speaker 1: chain of command. That to me is the one thing

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Speaker 1: the January six commande should be focused on, because it

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Speaker 1: was Biden's Inspector General that confirmed that we were telling

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Speaker 1: the truth the entire time. But of course they don't

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Speaker 1: want to talk about that either. We supplemented the record

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Speaker 1: with the Biden DoD Inspector General report. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the January sixth Committee wouldn't even put it in to

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Speaker 1: the record. Yeah, they won't put these relevant things in,

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Speaker 1: but they'll put a Hannity text in there. Five hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand times, Cash Patel, thank you for sharing the story

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Speaker 1: with us. We deserve to see all those documents, every

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Speaker 1: one of them that you talked about, and I hope

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Speaker 1: in time, when Republicans hopefully win, there'll still be in existence.

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Speaker 1: They won't magically disappear with some sort of paper equivalent

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Speaker 1: to bleach pit. Anyway, Cash, thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Eight hundred Oh. By the way, don't

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Speaker 1: forget Cash's book, a new children's booked to Plot Against

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Speaker 1: the King. Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, bookstores everywhere,

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Speaker 1: quick break right back. You are listening to the best

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Speaker 1: of the Sean Hannity Show, and stay tuned. More memorable moments,

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