1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: We are on every day from one until four, and oh, 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: you might be one of these people that has a 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: job and now you've been ordered into the office. That's 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: why we provide a public service John Cobelt Show on demand. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: It's the podcast version of the radio show. 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: So if you're not in attendance between one and four, 10 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: a little bit after four o'clock, we post it and 11 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: you can listen to that for anytime the rest of 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: the day and forever. 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: When I came to California, I've said this many times. 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: San Francisco we visited years ago and it was the 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: most beautiful city I had ever seen. And the last 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: time I left San Francisco a few months back, it 17 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: had become one of the most disgusting cities I've ever seen, 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: probably the most disgusting in America. I've seen a few 19 00:00:52,840 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: others overseas, and who presided over the decline of San 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: Francisco over the past few years. It's the mayor London Breed, 21 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: who's now on her way out. She lost an election 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: to Daniel Lourie. Lourie is heir to the Levi Strauss fortune. 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: He's a nonprofit executive and he is going to try 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: to resuscitate really has become a tragic story. One of 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: the people who've helped chronicle what's gone on in San 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: Francisco the last few years is Richie Greenberg, the writer 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: and commentator, and we have him on again because Richie, welcome, Hello. 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: From San Francisco, home of tsunami warnings and tornado warnings 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: and earthquakes. And I'm glad to be we're here mayday. 30 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: And that's the that's all. That is the least your problems. 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: So London Breed loses the election and on her way 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: out she's saying, no matter what the results said, I'm 33 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 1: still a winner. 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: Well, yes, she's a winner in her mind. And to 35 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: vote those people who benefited tremendously off of her being 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: the mayor over the last few years, of course she's 37 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 3: a winner. They're a winner. And I predict right now 38 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: it's going to be a little bit difficult for the 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 3: incoming mayor to try and pry these fingers, pry away 40 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: the nonprofits and others who have been drifting off the 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: San Francisco taxpayers that were established commissions and departments and 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: initiatives that were started by London Breed. That's going to 43 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 3: be a challenge for the incoming mayor. 44 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: I guess those are the other winners you were referring to, 45 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: and this would be the homeless mental illness industrial complex 46 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: that has grown into a huge force. 47 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're also leaving out something that's very important 48 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: and I'm going to say pretty much unique to San 49 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: Francisco is that we are one of this cities that 50 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: they made a hard push for reparations. And so even 51 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: though the reparations plan itself, which I've written extensively about 52 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: and done a deep dive, even though they shelved the plan, 53 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: many aspects of the plan wound up being put into 54 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: operation anyway, but not package as reparations. So there is 55 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: a specific initiative that was established under London Breed called 56 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: the Dreamkeeper Initiative, which was funneling millions of dollars through 57 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: certain recipients Black African American in San Francisco. So that's 58 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: that is also they are winners per se as well. 59 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: Well, can can can How much can Daniel Lurie do? 60 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: Can he turn off the money spigot to all these nonprofits, 61 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: whether it's over reparations or it's the mental illness and 62 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: homeless uh grift that's going on. I mean, I mean, 63 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: what what what can he do to end the drain 64 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: of taxpayers money to organizations that aren't doing anybody any good. 65 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's going to need to be a very 66 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: serious sit down and concerted effort between him, the executive office, 67 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: the mayor, and our board of supervisors, our city council, 68 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: because they deal with not only these different programs, but 69 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: they deal with the funding as well. And one of 70 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: the things that is the major responsibility of a mayor 71 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: is to do the budgets. They do the budgeting, so 72 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: they say, okay, the doors are open, let's start talking 73 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: about next year and the year after. What will our 74 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: plan be for you know, giving out the money to 75 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: these different departments and different agencies. And you have people 76 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 3: coming in that are begging for money to different apartments. 77 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: We need, we need this amount, we need this number 78 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: millions or tens of millions or hundreds of millions. And 79 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: that's what makes the mayor's job so complicated because they 80 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: have to look at how much the budget is and 81 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: look at what who is asking and see, you know, 82 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: the deficit. We're going to be approaching nearly a billion 83 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: dollar deficit coming up in the next year or so, 84 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: almost a billion dollars billion dollars one billion. Right now 85 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: it was eight hundred and sixty seven or eight seventy 86 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: six million, and next year is going to be even 87 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: worse because we have all of these organizations and agencies 88 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: and nonprofits that have been demanding money, and we have 89 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: a lower property value, so people are asking to have 90 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: their property taxes reevaluated. We have a decimated retail core. 91 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: We have a still our office, the downtown office segment 92 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: is there. They're mostly empty as well, so we've lost 93 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 3: a lot of revenue and will continue to lose a 94 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: lot of revenue. 95 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: So the the office is emptied out and a lot 96 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: of workers are still not back, and that has really 97 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: ruined business for all the restaurants and bars and retail 98 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: shops in the area because people used to do all 99 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: their shopping and entertainment. 100 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: Domino effect. 101 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: Domino effect. 102 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: So the tax you know, the tax money from those 103 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: establishments are gone. The tax money that came from these 104 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: these companies that worked in San Francisco, that's gone, and 105 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: and many blocks are just empty. There's no people and 106 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: there's no money anymore. 107 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: Correct, And I often go downtown to do certain work 108 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: and around where my office used to be because I 109 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: left earlier this year. I finally gave up in I 110 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: think it was in February I gave notice, and that 111 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: was that I had shared office space right in our 112 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: downtown financial district because people weren't going there anymore, and 113 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: clients said that they just didn't want to come into 114 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: the city anymore. But then there's also another challenge is 115 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: bringing in tourism, and San Francisco realies hugely, a very 116 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: high percent on tourist dollars, not only hotel rooms and 117 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: hotel taxes, but the small businesses that also cater to 118 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: visiting people to the city. And until we are able 119 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: to get or not wait, but the mayor is able 120 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: to get a handle on crime, homelessness, drug dealing, the 121 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: drug addicts, intents and graffiti and safety and all of 122 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: those very well known, very documented issues, we won't be 123 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: able to turn the city around. And that is why 124 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: we're hoping someone from the outside, Daniel Lurie, will be 125 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: able to make a difference. And right now we are 126 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: supporting him but we're watching his statements that he's made 127 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: over the last couple of weeks, the last couple of days, 128 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: and we're hope we're cautious. 129 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you something, because I mean, I'm 130 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: getting the following statistics from the La Times, which I 131 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: don't trust at all, Hannah Wiley, she writes, and she 132 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: says various criminal categories. Robberies down twenty two percent, burglaries 133 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: down twelve percent, motor vehicle theft down twenty one percent, 134 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: homicides down. She's clearing homeless encampments. Breed is claiming sixty 135 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: percent fewer tents across the city. 136 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: Is that true? 137 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: And if that were true, then why was Breed chased out? 138 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: Was it too little too late? Or these are just 139 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of phony numbers I'm looking at. 140 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: Well, I believe it's both the phony numbers. Ways to 141 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: explain those numbers and too little too late. That she 142 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: bears responsibility for everything that happens, going back to when 143 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 3: she was first elected in the twenty eighteen in a 144 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: race that actually me yours truly happened to run in 145 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: against her as well in twenty eighteen. But you know, 146 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 3: I have been quoted numerous times recently that when you 147 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: empty out the businesses, when they have close up, boarded 148 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: up and left town, and you have blocks and blocks 149 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: of very little to no cafes, restaurants, retail, then there's 150 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: nothing to rob anymore. So the criminals leave. They've left town. 151 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: So at the beginning, back in twenty twenty or twenty 152 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: twenty one, when we had those massive looting events and 153 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 3: coordinated looting and the retail and the smash and grabs 154 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: of both cars and shops, when they're just not there. 155 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: They're not there. So what are you going to do? 156 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: You don't have any. 157 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: Town you go with drops, you don't have potential targets 158 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: for crime. 159 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly. Now, that's that's a realistic, logical explanation to 160 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: say crime went down. Well, that's because there's nothing to 161 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 3: rob anymore. Well, yeah, I believe that's totally. 162 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: I hadn't thought of that. 163 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: Now you're you're you're probably right that that make that 164 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: makes perfect sense here. 165 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: Because so they moved over to Oakland. That's yet. 166 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: And that's what happened to Oakland. So now they're still 167 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: they're just like a year behind us. 168 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: I just have another minute, but don't you marvel at 169 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: how the people in San Francisco put up with all 170 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: this civil destruction for so many years. It's it's actually 171 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: frightening that they were willing to endure all this without 172 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: any serious pushback. 173 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: Well, they or we. I'm part of that. I moved 174 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: here in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one, so I've 175 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: been here for twenty four years or so. Not every 176 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: square inch of this city is under siege by the 177 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: drug addicts. There are areas that are better. So there 178 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: are the core parts of the city that do have 179 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: the humanitarian disaster that are still ongoing today. And that 180 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: is one of the things that Daniel Lurie promised on 181 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: day one. He was going to be tackling that. It's 182 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: not just a tenderloin, but it's maybe half a mile 183 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: south of there, in an area Soma south of Market, 184 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: Soma sixth Street and Mission, Sixth and Mission is another 185 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,599 Speaker 3: ground zero. He promised to go after that with the 186 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: drug dealers and dealing and homeless and all that. That 187 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: is what he promises from day one. He even tweeted 188 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: that yesterday or today is something, so we are hopeful. 189 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: I am hopeful. We're hoping that our hard work and 190 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: our tax dollars are to be used prudently from this 191 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: point going forward. 192 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: All right, Richie Greenberg, thank you very much, my pleasure. 193 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: Thank you from San Francisco, London. Breed finally been kicked 194 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: out of office. You got a business executive. You're going to 195 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: be running things and try to put the place back together. 196 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: Okay, We've got more coming up on the John co 197 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: Belt Shows. 198 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 199 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 4: six forty. 200 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: You can follow us at John Cobelt Radio at John 201 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: Coblt Radio. This is good news. Kevin Kylie, We've hit 202 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: him on the show a number of times. He is 203 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: a former state legislator now a congressman from northern California. 204 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Kylie, He's going to introduce a federal bill that 205 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: would cut off all the funding for the failed California 206 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: High Speed Rail project, and that's going to save the 207 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: United States of America at least eight billion dollars. California 208 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: High Speed Rail is nothing but a giant, corrupt money suck. 209 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: There is no other project like this in the world. 210 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: Trust me, I've looked, I have. I've gone to foreign 211 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: countries looking for a worse project. 212 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: There is nothing. 213 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: This is the most money spent on a project that's 214 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: produced nothing, absolutely nothing, and it's going to be many, 215 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: many years before they project any kind of rail service 216 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: will be available, and all they're looking at is Bakersfield. 217 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: Tom Or said. The construction estimates, which started sixteen plus 218 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: years ago, the original estimate was thirty three billion dollars. 219 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: May I remind you the thirty three billion dollars was 220 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: going to get us high speed rail that ran from 221 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Sacramento to San Francisco to Los Angeles, through Anaheim and 222 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: down to San Diego. That was the original plan, Sacramento 223 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: to San Diego and everywhere in between for thirty three billion. 224 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: Right now the projection is one hundred and thirty five billion, 225 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: and you're only going to get Bakersfield to Merced one 226 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five billion. They're desperately trying to connect 227 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: Bakersfield and Merced because then they then they'll say, hey, 228 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: look what we did. And they've never heard of the 229 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: term don't throw good money after bad. This is such 230 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: an embarrassing disaster. And the thing is they keep spending 231 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: the money and nobody in government ever addresses all the 232 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: horrible waste. This is like living in East Germany or 233 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union, where all kinds of terrible disasters happen. 234 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: It's like even when Chernobyl imploded back back in the 235 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: Soviet Union, all the officials just look the other way, 236 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: pretended nothing happened. And the high speed rail is our 237 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: financial version of Chernobyl. 238 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: It is a complete disaster. Now. 239 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: The vic Ramaswami confirmed last week that the DOGE Commission 240 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: is going to be looking at removing all the funding 241 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: from high speed rail. So Kevin Kyleie is going to 242 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: introduce a bill and see this will carry some weight 243 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: because you'll have a California Republican convincing the rest of 244 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: the California well convincing the rest of the Republican House 245 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: and Republican Senate that it's time to end this thing. 246 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: Now. 247 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: Trump has other ways to end it, but the most 248 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: permanent way would have Congress pass a bill that Trump signs. 249 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: He could end it by blocking the money through the 250 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: Federal Railroad administration. He could issue executive orders, he could 251 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: have the Department of Justice tie up the construction with 252 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: legal issues. 253 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: But as. 254 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: As one expert here says, Tylie's bill is the cleanest 255 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: way to do it. It would be simply passed legislation 256 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: that Trump would never veto. Trump can stop funding in 257 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: other ways if for some reason it didn't get through, 258 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: but this would be much more permanent. And this would 259 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: be a great way to stick it to Gavin Newsom 260 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: because Newsom has presided over almost the entire history of 261 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: high speed rail. Remember he was lieutenant governor for eight 262 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: years and six years as governor. That's fourteen out of 263 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: the sixteen years Gavin Newsom has held a high office 264 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: in California and watched all the billions of dollars go 265 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: into the toilet, and he tried, he'd wanted to stop it, 266 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: but he didn't have the guts because he's a he's 267 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: one of these pajama boys, and he couldn't stand up 268 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: to the construction unions which wanted to suck out the 269 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: money to give their members make work, fake work jobs, 270 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 1: which is what this is all. That's the only thing 271 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: that brager. What are all the jobs that created? You 272 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: created fake jobs? You have hundreds of workers working every 273 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: day producing nothing. There is no rail and there's not 274 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: going to be any rail. They haven't even bought up 275 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: all the land. Yet after sixteen plus years, the state 276 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: doesn't even own all the land that they need. So 277 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: hopefully Kevin Kylie's bill will be this will be the 278 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: final flush. That's what they ought to call the bill, 279 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: the final flush. Now when we return, this really ruined 280 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: my morning. Some people ought to get off the stage 281 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: and stay off the stage. And Kamala Harris is trying 282 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: to find a way to climb back on the stage 283 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: and maybe run for governor. 284 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: This out horrifying. 285 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: She's an absolute idiot, and she's got no business running California. 286 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: She had no business running for president. I'm seriously well, 287 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: I'll save it till we come back. 288 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: There you go. What a genius. Okay, we've got more 289 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: coming up on the John Cobelt Show. 290 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM 291 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 4: six forty. 292 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: All right, onto something that this, this whole, this whole 293 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: issue should not really exist in a normal world, nobody 294 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: would consider Kamala Harris to become governor of California. Yet 295 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: not I read not one, but two articles today, one 296 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: in the La Times and one in one CNN. George 297 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: Skelton is this ancient columnist, He's somewhere in his mid eighties. 298 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: I think who still writes for the La Times and 299 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: the headline says Kamala Harris should run for governor if 300 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: she wants to solve California's problems? Well, how does why 301 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: does anyone think Kamala Harris can solve any political, any 302 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: public problem? What indication has there been? She helped create 303 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: some of the worst problems in the state when she 304 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: wrote the title in summary for Prop. Forty seven, the 305 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act, that unleashed so much crime, 306 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: so much public drug addiction, and so much homelessness. Much 307 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: of the problems over the last ten years goes back 308 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: to the day that she or someone on her staff 309 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: typed the words Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act, thereby lying 310 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: to the public on what Prop forty seven was. 311 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: Going to do. The intention was. 312 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: To further clear out the prisons and the jails and 313 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: not put anyone away for anything. George Gascone was the 314 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: co writer. So what do you think the intent was? 315 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: She teamed up with George Gascone to massively deceive the 316 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: public and create an intolerable situation of crime and homelessness 317 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: and public drug addiction, and she's the one considered a 318 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: favorite to be governor. 319 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: Why would you do that? 320 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: And how come nobody in the media asks that, am 321 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: I insane? She really wrote that that really had an 322 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: effect on Prop forty seven passing, and it really was 323 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: this disgusting disaster which we just repealed. We just repealed 324 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: by a seventy to thirty margin most of Prop forty seven. 325 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: So why would you do this? We just got rid 326 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: of the guy who wrote Prop forty seven, George Gascon. 327 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: He got kicked out of office in La County. 328 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the two most left wing disasters of a 329 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: city are La and San Francisco. The mayor's been kicked 330 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: out of San Francisco, the DA has been kicked out, 331 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: Several school board members were kicked out here in La 332 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: the DA was finally kicked out. Why would you go 333 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: back to Kamala Harris. She's a loser, she's a failure. 334 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: She never did anything, but oh, let's go to her 335 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: vice presidency. I'm sorry to keep beating this dead horse, 336 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: but really, she was in charge of the border and 337 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: ten million people crossed it. Total failure, and we saw 338 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: what she's like as a candidate she can't talk, she 339 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: can't think, She had no ideas, She made no sense 340 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: most of the time. I mean, I wonder if she's 341 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: got really some kind of brain disorder. And then she 342 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: though the only thing she's put out publicly since, uh, 343 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: since the law US was a video to her supporters 344 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: where it seemed like she was drunk. In fact, much 345 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: of the time when she spoke and we played all 346 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: the clips, she sounded like she was stoned. You can't 347 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: be serious. We already have a disaster of a governor. 348 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: Why would you follow up Gavin Newsom with Kamala Harris. 349 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: Ah Newsom comes across as Albert Einstein next to Kamala Harris, 350 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: And I am right on this, and you know you 351 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: feel the same way. Who wants her? Who the hell 352 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: would want Kamala Harris? She has been a failure and 353 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: we just watched her for one hundred days. You can't say, well, 354 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: you don't really know the real Kamala Harris. You know, 355 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: behind closed doors she was from very of fact, No. 356 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: She wasn't. 357 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: And now we've seen her out in the open. Then 358 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: I read these ridiculous stories in CNN, says top aids 359 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: and people close to Kamala Harris have are divided over 360 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: whether she should head home to run for California, and 361 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: it all comes down to whether they believe she could 362 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: win the Democratic nomination for president. Oh no, she can't 363 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: win that There are much more accomplished, smarter, and more 364 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: articulate Democrats. She is going to end up like she 365 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: did in twenty nineteen, dropping out before the primaries because 366 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: she makes no sense when she talks. 367 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: And who are these advisors? 368 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: Are the people who told her, Hey, when you go 369 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: on television, tell everybody that you're going to do exactly 370 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: the same thing as Joe Biden. You're not going to 371 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: change a thing. 372 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: I insane. Other aids worry that. 373 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: In a longer campaign longer than one hundred days, Harris 374 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: might fizzle out and follow her loss to Trump with 375 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: the humiliation of being rejected by her own party. She 376 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: was rejected by her own party in twenty nineteen. She 377 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: was rejected by her own party in the state of 378 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: California when she ran for president. Of course, she's going 379 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: to be rejected because even Democratic see, because you know, 380 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: because of the vice presidency job. Biden said it. He 381 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: wanted he wanted to he wanted a black woman. That's 382 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: the only reason she got it. He made it clear 383 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: up front, who's going to be vice president. You've got 384 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: You've got hundreds of possibilities, plausible candidates for vice president. 385 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: He said, I want to have a black woman, and 386 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: he picked a terrible candidate. I'm sure there was a 387 00:24:54,920 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: better choice than Kamala even with those restrictions. Oh my god. 388 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: And everybody knows this, and they pretend otherwise. Why do 389 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: they pretend otherwise? Quit the Kamala campaign and go go 390 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: find another candidate who's intelligent, who speaks clearly, who has 391 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: original thoughts or copies other people's thoughts, as long as 392 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: there's something useful there. 393 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: But stop it with this. This sounds sounds like just 394 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: got brain damage. I don't know. 395 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: Half the time when we played her clips, I had 396 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: no idea what she was talking about. Nobody else did either. 397 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: Everybody was just faking it and playing pretend. There's nothing 398 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: in there. There's nothing. 399 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: Can't make her governor. 400 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: But short Skeleton wrote, Kamala could make history as the 401 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: first woman in person of color to be elected California governor. No, 402 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: who cares? What is the obsession with skin color at 403 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: this late day? And this obsession with what gender you are. 404 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: You gotta have somebody competent. We had an incompetent white 405 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: man for the last six years. It's been horrible. Why 406 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: would you followed up with an incompetent black woman. Why 407 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: why do we only have incompetent people being elected? And 408 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: then everybody fixates on color and gender. No, it's it's 409 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: their intelligence, it's their judgment. 410 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: Of course, that's never discussed. 411 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: You know, I wish they would stop stop describing candidates 412 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: by their race and their gender. Why don't you start 413 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: describing them by their intelligence level. Let's have public IQ 414 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: tests and we reveal the results. She doesn't make triple digits, 415 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: but George just Skelton says she'd have to be eager 416 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: to deal with homelessness. Deal with homelessness. She created all this, 417 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: the housing shortage, the housing shortage. You know, if we 418 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: weren't housing several million illegal aliens, there'd be a lot 419 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: of empty housing that we could use to put in 420 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: American citizens. We could increase the supply of housing tremendously 421 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: if we weren't a sanctuary for millions of illegal aliens. 422 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: Apparently that's another thing you can't discuss she'd have to 423 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: deal with street crime again see Prop forty seven over regulation. 424 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 2: Well, that's all done by her party. 425 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: It's a one party system, so she has to deal 426 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: with this and this and this and this. 427 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 2: Except it's her own party. 428 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: And when she was in Congress, she voted as the 429 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: most liberal senator out of all of them, the most 430 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: liberal was Kamala Harris. So she's not going to fix homelessness. 431 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: Her party creates homelessness, create a housing shortage, they create 432 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: the street crime, they create the overregulation. 433 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: What is she going to do? 434 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: Come on, you know, you know, if you're in business 435 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: and you saw her walking in to run your company, 436 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: you'd be putting out new resumes in five minutes because 437 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: you know the place would be going into the ground. 438 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yey, Okay, We've got more coming up on 439 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: the John cobelt Show. 440 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 441 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 4: six forty. 442 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: One of our favorite topics is, well, this headline got 443 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: me in the Wall Street Journal. Meet the people who 444 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: refuse to go back to the office and lost their jobs. Finally, 445 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: now companies are getting rid of the deadbeats who don't 446 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: want to show up at work. Amazon is requiring employees 447 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: to report five days a week. 448 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: Five days. 449 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 5: That's not fair. 450 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: That would be Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. No Fridays, Fridays, 451 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: Oh no ups. JP Morgan Boeing have also called their 452 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: workers back for five days. You know, that's really that's 453 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: that violates the Eighth Amendments. 454 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 5: That is cruel and unusual punishment. 455 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: Some people were not showing up for work and they 456 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: got fired. Publicist Media terminated several dozen employees who wouldn't 457 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: show up for the required days. Other companies, Roadblocks and 458 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: Grinder have offered several packages to employees who won't show up. 459 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: Snap the technology, the social media company laid off workers. 460 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 1: Now listen Listen to a couple of the people who 461 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: found themselves fired. Stephanie Pittman lost her remote job. She 462 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: worked at her home in Wichita, Kansas. The company was 463 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: based in California, and now she's upset because they wanted 464 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: to show up for work in California. 465 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 6: Well, I could understand if she was told that she 466 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 6: could remote in permanently because she moved away, or that 467 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 6: I can that I can understand. 468 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: You kind of have to know that day is coming though. 469 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 470 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 6: But if you're if you were told that you didn't 471 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 6: have to come to work ever, and you move away, 472 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 6: it is kind of unfair to say, oh, we've changed 473 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 6: her mind and you live, what two thousand miles away? 474 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: You know what our parents taught us. I'm just life 475 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: is not fair. 476 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 5: It isn't It really isn't fair, you know how. But 477 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 5: I cannot What I'm saying is I can understand in that. 478 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: Well, she had quit a job because the company was 479 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: forcing her to work in person, and so she took 480 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: this job in California and in which taught. He has 481 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: four kids, a husband who's a judge, and elderly parents 482 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: who live nearby, so she can't leave Wichita. But a 483 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: job in California isn't going to last forever. Here's another guy, 484 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: Nathan Vance. He was hired in April as a remote employee. 485 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: And this is a San Francisco company, Grinder, that's a 486 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: I think a gay dating app. And he bought a 487 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: house in Washington State, eight hundred miles away from Grinder's 488 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: nearest office. And he thought he could work from home permanently. 489 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: Why give up a property he owns? Mortgage rate three 490 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: percent to pay the high rents in the Bay area. Well, 491 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: they told him to come in and he doesn't want 492 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: to make the eight hundred mile commute, so they gave 493 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: him three months severance unemployment for six months. Now he's 494 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: spending his savings and retirement accounts and the guy is fifty. 495 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: You should be spending your retirement account when you're fifty. 496 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: In the end, he didn't, he didn't win the game. 497 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: He thought he was going to save on San Francisco 498 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: rents and now he might have to relocate. After all, 499 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm applying for jobs anywhere and everywhere. I'm at the 500 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: point where I really don't know what's going to happen. 501 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: This guy committed self bankruptcy because he didn't want to 502 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: go into an office, or he didn't want to go 503 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: move to the town where the company was. 504 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 6: There as still a lot of companies that say you 505 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 6: can work from home two days a week and come 506 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 6: into the office three days a week. 507 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but with him, he's eight hundred miles away. 508 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 5: Well, I know he didn't screw he screwed. I'm not 509 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 5: talking about. 510 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: I just you can never trust that companies are going 511 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: to continue the policy. 512 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: A policy like that, that's. 513 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 5: True so you have to be prepared to find another job. 514 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: Then, because, according to one consultant named Dan Kaplan, who 515 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: studies this issue behind closed doors, there's a view among 516 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: CEOs quote, I'm tired of this whining about coming back 517 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: to work. We've compromised enough, and if you're not meeting 518 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: the minimum, then we're going to move on without you. 519 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: Because some of the companies asked for three days and 520 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: the employee still said no, And so everybody said, well, 521 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: the hell with you, because there are jobs where you 522 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: can work from home within the structure of a company. 523 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: Really depends on your job, but there are a lot 524 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: of jobs. I mean, you know, I can see this 525 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: in my own eyes. When people don't see each other 526 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: every day, then the company loses something because there's a 527 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: lot there's a lot of good stuff that goes on 528 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: when people can see each other and talk spontaneously and 529 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: randomly to each other all day. 530 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 5: John, did you want me to work from home? 531 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: No? I need the company. I know, it's sure. 532 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 5: Can you imagine this? 533 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: Is it? 534 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking to myself. I'm close to talking to myself now. 535 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: Here's an update from the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. 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