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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, Ali here and welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Rachel is still on her honeymoon. I'm so happy for her.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. If you've looked at her Instagram lately,

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Speaker 1: she looks like she is having the time of her

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Speaker 1: life and so is Brian. We're so happy for them.

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Speaker 1: But she will be back next week, so we'll get

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Speaker 1: to hear all about her wedding and her honeymoon straight

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Speaker 1: from her. But today we actually have a very special

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Speaker 1: co host and that is Crystal. Hey. Crystal, Hey girl,

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Speaker 1: how's it going. Oh my gosh, I'm so happy you're here,

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Speaker 1: because well, one, I just adore you. I think you're

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Speaker 1: lovely too. We're gonna have a lot of fun. And three,

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Speaker 1: we've got to talk about a few things going down

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Speaker 1: right now that involved you. Yeah, there's a lot going

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Speaker 1: on right now. I know the wedding and JPJ, but

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Speaker 1: we can dive into all that and more to tell Oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: we are absolutely going to do that. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: really want to want to hear how you feel about

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Speaker 1: watching your wedding on TV, because that's got to kind

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Speaker 1: of be a weird thing, like not even just watching it,

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Speaker 1: but then hearing everybody kind of react to it. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get all into your wedding a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: more because unfortunately some drama went down there with JPJ

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Speaker 1: and Derek, and so we're gonna talk about on the show.

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Speaker 1: But we're also going to have your friend Angela and

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Speaker 1: bridesmaid Yes on the show today. Yeah. I'm so excited

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Speaker 1: to talk with Angela, especially because what's been going on

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Speaker 1: this week in Bachelor Paradise has been really wild and

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Speaker 1: Angela's made a really strong entrance and I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to chat with her and get some like inside perspective

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Speaker 1: as to like what was going through her mind with

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Speaker 1: coming down to confront her ex on the beach and

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Speaker 1: then seeing him with Nicole, and we're just seeing this

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Speaker 1: like spiral of Clay. So I'm just can't wait to

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Speaker 1: like dive deep into Angela's mind, and dive deep. We

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Speaker 1: will all after this. Hey, guys, we're back and I'm

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Speaker 1: here with my co host for the day, Crystal. Hey guys,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, so let's get right into your

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Speaker 1: wedding first. So I was honestly really nervous to watch

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Speaker 1: the wedding too. I was really nervous, and Chris and

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Speaker 1: I just sat on our couch with the dogs and

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Speaker 1: we watched it Sunday night, so we watched a couple

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Speaker 1: days before. I just sat like holding Wayne and Chucky

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Speaker 1: just like, oh my god like and it was really powerful.

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Speaker 1: It's really emotional to walk through that, particularly with the

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Speaker 1: ceremony and it was. It just brought me back to

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Speaker 1: that day and how special it felt. And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you can relay on your wedding day to really um,

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Speaker 1: I felt so symbolic as I was walking down the aisle.

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Speaker 1: I think was my most memorable moment where I felt

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Speaker 1: that I was leaving behind the past and the old

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Speaker 1: me and I was walking into my future, and I

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Speaker 1: was walking towards towards my future, which was my husband.

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Speaker 1: You know, Chris Rando not Harrison that a little bit

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Speaker 1: because you said you were nervous to watch the show

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Speaker 1: because so was there anything because maybe you being the bride,

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Speaker 1: people were probably trying to shelter you from the drama.

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Speaker 1: At least I would if I were there, I would

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Speaker 1: have been did you know the extent of what happened?

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Speaker 1: You know? I um, actually when that went down with

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Speaker 1: John Paul Jones and Derek was when Chris and I

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Speaker 1: were taking wedding photos and we're like, why are we

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Speaker 1: doing this for so long? Like we want to go

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Speaker 1: more photos and We're like this seems abnormally like a

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Speaker 1: out that it was because of the drama. They didn't

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Speaker 1: it because this was our day, our moment, and they

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Speaker 1: they knew it would really bother us and would really

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Speaker 1: hurt us. So super grateful for that little protection and shield.

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Speaker 1: But as soon as we come out into the party,

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Speaker 1: all of my family and friends they like rush over

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Speaker 1: to us and they're like John Paul Joneses just like

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Speaker 1: attack Derek and he's pointing his finger and yelling, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what is going on? And everyone was Everyone

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Speaker 1: in my veil. Okay for a second, but it was

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Speaker 1: it really took a strong front of you know, the conversation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he issues an apology and okay, I gotta result got it.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna read it for you guys. Okay. So, John

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Speaker 1: Paul Jones, John Paul Jones, that's his handle. That was

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Speaker 1: twice says after watching this past Tuesday's episode of Bachelor

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Speaker 1: Paradise and having had time to step away from it

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Speaker 1: all in introspect on my actions, I do deeply regret

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Speaker 1: that my behavior was disruptive and upsetting to the celebration

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Speaker 1: of Chris and Crystal's wedding reception. Despite the fatigue and anxiety,

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Speaker 1: I felt at that time I should have used good

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Speaker 1: and selfless way. I send my sincere apologies to Chris

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Speaker 1: So that sounds pretty sincere. Yeah. Actually, Like when I

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Speaker 1: criticism that he received because the behavior was absolutely uncalled

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Speaker 1: for and it really did take away. But then we

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Speaker 1: were scrolling through the comments. So we were scrolling through

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Speaker 1: the comments and we see so after both of us

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Speaker 1: our initial reaction being oh, that was pretty nice, you know,

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Speaker 1: yelling at at the wedding comments and says, don't insult

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Speaker 1: our intelligence. You. Yeah, you could reach out on your

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Speaker 1: a good well. Actually, Katie from the show, you know

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Speaker 1: Katie and chrism she wrote, you've got a good cart,

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Speaker 1: my friend. So people in Paradise and Chris wrote, you're

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Speaker 1: a gentleman JPJ. So people from Paradise cast, from the

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I have Crystal right

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Speaker 1: here in front of me. Crystal, did JPJ ever reach

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Speaker 1: out to you to apologize? Yeah? You know, I just

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Speaker 1: check my DMS and no, I have not received an apology.

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Speaker 1: So I have not personally received one. That to me

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Speaker 1: is a okay, was he Is he really sorry? Because

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Speaker 1: if he was, wouldn't he reach out to you? I

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Speaker 1: apologies publicly to everyone. But you know, I'm gonna take it.

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Speaker 1: and hearing the whole response, I go, don't forget. It

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Speaker 1: was our wedding day and that's what's most important. We

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Speaker 1: all people who would understand being passionate in the moment

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Speaker 1: and letting their emotions get the best of them, that

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Speaker 1: is Chris and I. I mean, we went through our

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Speaker 1: journeys on our respective seasons of bachelor and bachelorette, and

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Speaker 1: of course we have regret. Of course we wish you

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Speaker 1: would have acted differently. And all we can do, though

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Speaker 1: is grow and become better. And so that's my hope.

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Speaker 1: And for John Paul Jones, and I think that he's

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Speaker 1: and you know that's all I can do. You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much to talk about for Paradise,

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Speaker 1: but things I want to really get into before we

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Speaker 1: talk to Angela. And the first thing is Blake and Christina.

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Speaker 1: I know, Oh, what do you think about that? Well?

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Speaker 1: I think it was really wild watching this season end,

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Speaker 1: we also need to talk about real quick Dean and Kaylyn.

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Speaker 1: saw like with his separation and isolation even with his

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Speaker 1: he's hurt inside. He's afraid, he's afraid to let someone

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Speaker 1: And this is the thing too, Like I always say that,

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Speaker 1: Like everyone thought there's no way he's ever going to

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Speaker 1: feeling really down that I mean, he was just really

428
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 1: uncertain of his future. I mean, he provides and helps

429
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 1: take care of his family, and you know, I think

430
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 1: just he got afraid and got scared of like what's

431
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,160
Speaker 1: his identity like post football. So it was interesting because

432
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm friends with Clay and Angela and it's like that

433
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 1: side we were like who picks sides? But Angela and

434
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 1: I had we spoke on the phone, and Angela was

435
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 1: so it was so tough to hear you so heartbroken.

436
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 1: I remember you could just barely get any words out

437
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 1: for like an hour we were on the phone. This

438
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 1: was like days later. And it was really hard to

439
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: see you go through that because I know how much

440
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 1: you loved him, and I knew how much certainty you

441
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: had in this relationship. Well, it just made me sad that,

442
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 1: like I was one of the only people in clay

443
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 1: his life that was always there for him and encouraged

444
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 1: him and wanted him to be happy. And you know,

445
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 1: I was like, you could literally work at Walmart and

446
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 1: I wouldn't care. I just as long as we're together.

447
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: And it just seemed like he just didn't want to

448
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: hear any of that. He was just so like low

449
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: and it just you know, I just wanted to be

450
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 1: a team. And you know, what were his reasons, Like

451
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: when he broke up with you, what reasons did he

452
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 1: give for ending the relationship? You know, he said, well,

453
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 1: it's funny because when he was breaking up with me,

454
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: he was like a big part of me knows we're

455
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: supposed to be together. So I'm like, how am I

456
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 1: supposed to process this? But he just said he you know,

457
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 1: was lost, he didn't know who he was. He you know,

458
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: didn't he needed to find his new identity, He needed

459
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: to like figure out what his next step was in life.

460
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: And again, like I never you know, I haven't spoken

461
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: on this, and I had plenty of opportunity to after

462
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: we broke up, But like I was. The funny thing

463
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 1: is I was trying to protect him. You know, all

464
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: these news outlets and podcasts and everything were reaching out

465
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: to me wanting to comment and this and that. But

466
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: like I was trying to protect him because you know,

467
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: this is something personal that he was going through. I

468
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: wasn't going to spread his business. But you know, I

469
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: feel like I can talk about it now because he's

470
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: obviously said it on television on the episodes. You know

471
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: what he was going through. But he was just like

472
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 1: I need to be alone. I need to find myself.

473
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: I need to figure out my next moves. He was like,

474
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: it's it's nothing to do with you. He was like,

475
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: I just I don't even know who I am. I

476
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: need to figure myself out before I can be in

477
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: a relationship. And this is something that I think everybody

478
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: misheard on the wedding episode. Whenever I was explaining that,

479
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: I said he said he couldn't even think about being

480
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: with anyone else. I didn't say that, and I think

481
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: people like misheard that because now they're like, oh, you

482
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: just said you couldn't think about being anybody else or

483
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: being with anybody else, and then you show up on Paradise.

484
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,719
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, no, wait, I said he

485
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: said that, and Jel, I want to ask you because

486
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: I remember we were speaking and all the I knew

487
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: you guys had broken up, but the public didn't know. Yeah,

488
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: and everyone was commenting on your Instagram and you just

489
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: kept deleting the comments and trying to ignore it and

490
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: like like hide from it. And I was like, I

491
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: remember sitting down with Chelsea with Anna Lee and we

492
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: were all like a girl, why don't you like speak

493
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: up and get ahead of this and like let people know,

494
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: like you broke up and you were protecting him, and

495
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: you just kept saying that and we're very you know,

496
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: hush hush on the details of it. And I was,

497
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: even as your friend, I was like like why, like why,

498
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: Like can I ask you, like why do you feel

499
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: this need to protect him? Was it because you thought

500
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: that you might get back together? And like he maybe

501
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: he just needed some space? No, because I respected like

502
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: that was the thing. Is I respected him enough to

503
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: give him the space because again, like I understand where

504
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: he was coming from. You know, he was lost and

505
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: football was his identity, and it's like, you know, almost

506
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: I think they say, like with an athlete when they retire,

507
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: it's like losing a parent, Like you've had it your

508
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: whole life and then all of a sudden it's just

509
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: taken away. You know, it's a crisis. So I respected him,

510
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: and you know, I kind of was just like, it's

511
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: if we were going to talk about it, it was

512
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: going to be as a united front, and I you know,

513
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,239
Speaker 1: we had to discussed that and he was like, no,

514
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't like want my personal life in the media.

515
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, I don't want anybody to

516
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: be talking about it either. So you know, I was

517
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: again somehow I'm still trying to be a team like

518
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess I'm just that's just me.

519
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a kid, like I just I'm loyal.

520
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm a very loyal person. You loved him, and you said,

521
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: you know on the show even that you'll always love him,

522
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: And I think that you just are protective towards people

523
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: like that in your life. You know. I know I am,

524
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, even if I'm not with somebody, people who

525
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: I've loved in my past. But here's what I find

526
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: find disappointing. Let me just let you know this, Angela.

527
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: I love Clay like I have been a big fan

528
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: of his all season. Like, I just think that he

529
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: has shown himself to be a very stand up guy.

530
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: And that's why this is like disappointing for me, because

531
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: obviously it is for you. Um had a whole nother

532
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: level or was he you use words to describe his

533
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: reasons for breaking up with you, is saying he's lost,

534
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: he didn't know who he was and he had to

535
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: find himself. That doesn't sound like somebody who's ready to

536
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: be in paradise and that the breakup had nothing to

537
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: do with you. So it sounds to me that he

538
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: was saying, I'm not ready to be with anybody right now,

539
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: and that's what he told. You literally said that to me.

540
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: So that so, just so all of our listeners can understand,

541
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: that's why it was so hurtful for you. Correct me

542
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong that he went to paradise exactly. So

543
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: what was your reaction when you find out? Were you mad?

544
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: Were you sad? Did you scream? I didn't scream? Actually,

545
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: you know, I part of me I hate to say

546
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: it kind of expected it. I just had this feeling,

547
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: which makes me sad, but you know, I just had

548
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: to accept it. You know, it is what it is.

549
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: I didn't have any control over it. And yeah, it

550
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: was extremely hurtful because I don't know. I just it's like,

551
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: how could you do that after you just sat there

552
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: and told me this, like and let me clarify, like

553
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: this was told to me repeatedly for like two months

554
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: after we broke up, and then in Paradise, correct, you know,

555
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: and he and I'm not going to sit here and

556
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: drag him or talk bad about him or anything. Like.

557
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: People are allowed to make their own decisions and navigate

558
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: things how they want. But yeah, I mean it was

559
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: It was super hurtful. And you know, you do have

560
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: to go to casting for these things. You guys know that,

561
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: and they are on an overnight process months or exactly.

562
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, So you know, Angel I ask,

563
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: can I ask, can you understand why he went to Paradise?

564
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, looking at it from his perspective, I would

565
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: have just assumed that he, you know, would take this

566
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: kind of like I don't know, sabbatical maybe and take

567
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: the opportunity and do what he said he was going

568
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 1: to do. I mean, if I was him, that's what

569
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: I would have done. Um. I mean everybody has their

570
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: own motives, you know. I thought was my issue as

571
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: his actions weren't lying up with his words. But again,

572
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: I have no control over that, and he's allowed to

573
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: do what he wants to do. You know, he's a

574
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: grown man. So as Angela was packing for the wedding

575
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: to come and be in the wedding, she still didn't

576
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: even know if she would be going down. Yeah, Like

577
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: it was literally it was a last minute decision. It

578
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: was contingent on like if I made a connection at

579
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: the wedding, and I made two connections at the wedding,

580
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: and I was shocked because I honestly went in there

581
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: to be a bridesmaid. That was my sole focus, Like,

582
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: my sole focus was being a part of Christ and

583
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: Crystal's special day and that was it. So I've got

584
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: asked too, when you were talking to Clay at the wedding,

585
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: did you know at that point you were going to

586
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: Paradise or did you still not know? I mean that

587
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: was like midway through the wedding and I'd been flirting

588
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 1: and having great conversations with Mike and Chase, and that

589
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: night was great. I mean I was I had so

590
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: much fun being a bridesmaid and then talking to Mike

591
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: and Chase, and I you know, was starting to lean

592
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: towards that direction. So like, let me just say this

593
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: is my thought process with go like making the decision.

594
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: You know, when they offered me, like, hey, do you

595
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: want to go down and explore these two connections you made?

596
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: Obviously it's a weird situation, right, Like that's uncomfortable. But

597
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: I did not want Clay to be able to like

598
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: manipulate my decisions any longer. I literally took Clay out

599
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: of the equation whenever I made this decision because I

600
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I two hot, amazing guys who are

601
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: interested in me. I'm interested in them. If Clay wasn't there,

602
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: would I go down and explore? Hell? Yes, like the

603
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: And so I was like, you know, I'm not the

604
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: one who ended a relationship saying I'm not ready. I

605
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 1: was ready for love and relationship like a relationship all along.

606
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what, Clay and I

607
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: are over, I'm not going to let him hinder my

608
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: chance at love. There's no way. Yeah, I think I

609
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: want I want to get into that. I think that's

610
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: a really important thing to talk about here, because I

611
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of the cast members, even like

612
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: I didn't even normally go to Twitter or I go

613
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: to Instagram to see what sort of Bachelor Nation is

614
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: saying about the episodes. And I'm sure Bachelor Nation was

615
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: saying some of this too, you would probably know better,

616
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: but some of the cast members were saying, like, what

617
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: are Angela's intentions? Why is she here? And that was

618
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: a little bit confusing to me because, you know, like

619
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: you mentioned, it felt like a bit of a double

620
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: standard because if you had been there first and then

621
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: Clay was given the opportunity, would people be saying the

622
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: same thing, you know, like you've got to We've got

623
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: to think about it that way. And at that point,

624
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: in my opinion, Clay had kind of shown you I'm

625
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: moving on, so you are probably like, I'm going to

626
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: take this opportunity too. Yeah. I mean the second he

627
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: stepped on that beach, I was I was over it.

628
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, like you that display of characters not

629
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: something that I look for in my partner. So I

630
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: was like, okay, like I'm over it. I was like,

631
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: I if I make connections, I'm so excited. And I did,

632
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 1: and I was like exactly, like I didn't want there

633
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: to be a double standard. It's just it was. It

634
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: was like walking into the lions Den. Honestly. Yeah, I

635
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: actually I want to ask you about that, because I

636
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: did you know that you would. I'm sure you anticipated

637
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: that you would get some slack and then there would

638
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: be some heat as you walk down into Paradise. I mean,

639
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: what was that What was running through your mind? What

640
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: was that experience like to actually be in the lions Den. Yeah,

641
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean my heart was beating out of my chest because,

642
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: as I said, you know in the episode, I truly

643
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: like Crystal, you know this, like I am, I honestly

644
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: am not a drama person. I hate confrontation. It gives

645
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: me anxiety. Like I really am not a drama person.

646
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: So walking down, yeah, I was nervous. I knew obviously

647
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: Clay wasn't going to be excited to see me, and

648
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: I knew there would be like a little bit of

649
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: chit chatter, but um, you know, watching the episodes, I

650
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: was kind of like, wow, okay, um, it was a

651
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: little harsher than I thought. But again, everyone's entitled to

652
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: react to the way they won. And you know that's

653
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: that's fine, I guess, but um, I don't know. It's just,

654
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, slightly hurtful to hear all the hate coming

655
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: just from people who didn't know me. Um. You know,

656
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: I always try to give everybody the benefit of the

657
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: doubt and don't judge anybody until I get to know them.

658
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was hard to watch. Um, But you know,

659
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: like I said, everyone's entitled to think what they think

660
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: and say what they say, and I have no control

661
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: over it. So real quick, backing track just a little

662
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: bit for a second, I want to go back to

663
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: the wedding real quick. Um, speaking of walking, Yeah, I

664
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: mean you know exactly where we're going with us, Angela, Yeah,

665
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: can't wait, can't wait, we actually have We're Crystal and

666
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: I are looking at this pretty epic screen shot right

667
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: here are you walking down the aisle as a bridesmaid,

668
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: and Clays like looking over at you looking like a

669
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: deer cotton headlights, and Nicole looking at Clay just like,

670
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: oh you better not look. Yeah, we're we're actually going

671
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: to put this screenshop the screenshot up on Bachelor nation

672
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: dot com. So do yourself a favor if you're listening

673
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: to this right now and go look at it. It

674
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: is so epic. So you knew he was going to

675
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: be there. M Crystal, Actually, really I want to ask you.

676
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: You knew that they were going to interact for the

677
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: first time to see each other since the breakup. How

678
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: did were you nervous? So? I actually was. And Angela

679
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: I had called you like a few weeks before the

680
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: wedding and I was like, hey, so Clay's gonna be there,

681
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: like more than likely. Is everything okay? Because at that point, Angela,

682
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: you were still like, you know, a little shaken up

683
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: and would going to get emotional talking about and I

684
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: was like, girl, if you my bride's maid, I need you.

685
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: They like representing and like being strong, and you know,

686
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: you were like, no, I got this. I'm here for you.

687
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: My focus is there. And I felt so confident and

688
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: Angela had my back and I was there to support her,

689
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: and I knew that this was a big moment for her,

690
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: and I know the first time it would be walking

691
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: down the aisle, So I knew that that was a

692
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: huge moment for Angela. Granted it was also my wedding,

693
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: but it was also a big moment for you girl,

694
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: and where you know, you were just like making this

695
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: like entrance of like of like look what you missed

696
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: out on? Look at me now? And I remember Angela.

697
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: I remember standing back there waiting for me to walk,

698
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: and I just hear this like almost like like this

699
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: walking that was like so like clacking like horsetross like

700
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: on the runway, and I'm like, that's Angela, that is

701
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: and it was jed silent. You had a powerful cricket. Okay,

702
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: can I can I make a disclaimer though, here's my disclaimer. Okay, guys,

703
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: I think everyone forgets like my profession is a model.

704
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: So you are on a runway and I am going

705
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: like autopilot mode, y'all. I see a straight runway and

706
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: I just go and no, I doubt you are an

707
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: amazing model. But I had asked maybe there was a

708
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: little would you agree there was a little bit of

709
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: extra like hips and that step I swear, like I

710
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: really swear, I like blacked out, Like it was so

711
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: much pressure. My heart was beating fast. I knew everyone

712
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: was going to be looking at me, and I literally

713
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: blacked out like I didn't realize, Like I just walked

714
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my gosh, I promise you, Like

715
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: I did not mean for it to be extra and

716
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: to be honest, I'm not even I'm just gonna say it,

717
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get hate for it. I watched it back.

718
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: I really like, I don't think it was that bad.

719
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: I just think you look beautiful. You look beautiful, and

720
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: you look confident. Yeah, I mean, of course I'm going

721
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: to walk out there and be confident, because that's I am. Like,

722
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm a confident person, but I'm also very humble. So

723
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, I didn't want anything to

724
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: take away from like Chris and Crystal's day like this.

725
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: That was like my main goal going in the day.

726
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: It's like, you will not be a part of any drama.

727
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: You will not let any drama ensue you go and

728
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: support your friends, and that's what I intended to do.

729
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh and that we totally felt that way exactly, And

730
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: that was such a highly anticipated moment and I just

731
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: want to say, a girl like you delivered, you bid

732
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: a good girl for you, And it really almost felt

733
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: like a rose ceremony because everyone's are like panicking trying

734
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: to get connection or they might get Yeah, exactly exactly.

735
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: It's the costial party before the Rose ceremony and so

736
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: definitely good behind the scenes stuff that makes this podcast

737
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: so great. He totally had that like anxiety and so

738
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: Chris and you didn't see this at all. That like

739
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: we were just like jumping into like people and trying

740
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: to like make people like connect and have conversations. And

741
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: actually what you didn't see was we had might go

742
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: up to Angela and we were like, because you guys,

743
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: totally you So I want to say this, you didn't

744
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: see this, um, and Angela deserves this this moment, Angela

745
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: was the hottest ticket at the wedding. The house every

746
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: man was like like between Clay and Chase and Mike,

747
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: Angela was just getting pulled in so many conversations. It

748
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: was like all about Angela and it was so I

749
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: want to say. I went back and I was actually

750
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: walking as we were getting ready to leave, and I

751
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: saw all the all the you know, cameras up and

752
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: the TV monitors so I could see everything going on,

753
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: which was so cool to be able to like witness that,

754
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: and I just saw and I was saw you Angela,

755
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: And honestly, I just felt so like proud and happy

756
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: for you too, because I know the journey that you've

757
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: gone on, like through Clay, and I know how defeated

758
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: and broken hearted you weren't to see you just be celebrated,

759
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: to see you be acknowledged as a beautiful soul that

760
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: you are, and it made me so happy to have

761
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: you just like celebrate and like people just see like dang,

762
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: you're a catch. You are your full package or a

763
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: full package. So that was really really special to witness

764
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, Angels, got this. I'm out. I'm

765
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: gonna go and enjoy my wedding night. And I can

766
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: only I'm sure Clay noticed all that too what that

767
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: must have felt like for him. I'm sure he was

768
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: kind of having some regret in that moment started the spiral. Um,

769
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: there's so much more to talk about with you, Angela,

770
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: So if you're cool to stick around and chat with

771
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: us for a little bit longer, we would love that.

772
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: Is that cool? Of course? Okay, but first we're going

773
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: to take a quick break. All right, guys, welcome back

774
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: to Bachelor Happy Hour. We're talking to Angela. All right. Now,

775
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: we need to get into Nicole. So, first of all,

776
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: when did you find out, you know, was it at

777
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: the wedding or was it before the wedding that Clay

778
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: Nicole were an item? So um, I So I thought

779
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: it was funny because of the episode um that aired.

780
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: Clay went back and told Nicole that he told me

781
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: about her, and then you see in this week's episode,

782
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: I say there was no mention of any girl. Um. Yeah,

783
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: Clay and I did not talk about Nicole. I mean,

784
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: obviously I saw them at the wedding together, so you know,

785
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: I knew, but he didn't. He did not mention her

786
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: to me at the wedding. He mean, he didn't mention

787
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: his girlfriend when he was putting his hand on your

788
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: leg my jaw job in that moment, Okay, And again

789
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: maybe like I watched that back and I was like, oh, sugar,

790
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: he did not. Like I'm sure you're adrendl was pumping

791
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: so much, That's what I mean, Like, you're just so

792
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: in the moment when these things are happening. And I

793
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: was like, yep, he did that. You didn't have a boyfriend.

794
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: There's no problem with you know, to you, he's putting

795
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: his hand on your leg because there was a there's

796
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: care there. You know, it's his It was his bad

797
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: for doing that. That's nothing that you should have done. Differently,

798
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: So you didn't find out about Nicole until Paradise, until

799
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: you walk down Paradise steps. Well, no, because I saw

800
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: them together at the way. Okay, so you did see that,

801
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: but he didn't mention Oh yeah, okay, no, but he

802
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: did not mention her. Okay, so you saw them together.

803
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: Did when did you figure out that they had a

804
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: more serious relationship, Because at this point, everybody's been talking

805
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: about them in Paradise as of like, okay, there's a

806
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: few couples, there's yeah, yeah, from the beginning, So what

807
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: were your thoughts, Like did you think that this isn't real?

808
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: So my thoughts were and like this was from my

809
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: anthem going into Paradise is I'm not focusing on Clay

810
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: and whoever he's with, Like that's his prerogative. Like I

811
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: solely went in there with the intention of focusing on

812
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: my two connections that I made at the wedding and

813
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: exploring those because at this point, it's like I had

814
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: given all the cares that I had to give about

815
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: Clay in our relationship and what he was doing, and

816
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: I just didn't flat out didn't have any more to give,

817
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: to be frankly like honest. So I was like, you

818
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm going in, I'm focusing on me, like

819
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: as everyone wants to say this year, I'm going to

820
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: stay in my lane and you know, focus on my relationship.

821
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: So you know, at that point, I didn't know how

822
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: serious they were, but I mean I assumed, you know,

823
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: if they're holding hands and stuff at the wedding, that

824
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: they must have been something. So I was like, okay,

825
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: Like I did not go in there to like intentionally

826
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: break them up. That was never and I think everyone

827
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: saw that. I didn't even talk to Clay when I

828
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: came in. Were you expecting, like when you came down

829
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: with Nicole, were you expecting like a warm invitation or

830
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: were you concerned that she might have these connotations about

831
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: your motives of like why you're there. Well, I mean

832
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: I am glad that she came down because I had

833
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: intended to talk to her anyway. Like I said, it's

834
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: it's a it's a weird situation. But at the same time,

835
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: I think we all understand paradise is like everyone has

836
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: some sort of x there. You know, Christina had you know,

837
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: Dean there at some point dating Kaylin Blake and Christina

838
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: had you know, been something at some point he was

839
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: there dating other people. You know, it's it's a weird situation,

840
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: but it's expected. So like, yeah, I'm so glad that

841
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: her and I, Nicole and I got to chat. And

842
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: I you know, I'm a girl's girl one hundred percent.

843
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: I think you know, people who know me know that.

844
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: And that's why I just wanted to make it clear,

845
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: like I'm not here for Clay. I am not here

846
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: to you know, mess up anything between y'all. I'm here

847
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: to focus on me. There's some things that I want

848
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: to read. Nicole was saying some pretty crazy things about

849
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, I just kind of want to get your opinion.

850
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: But she was calling you a psycho, said you had

851
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: creepy curls and a creepy smile. Well you just have

852
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: beautiful curls. Yeah, I'm like, your hair is amazing panting.

853
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: If I were Nicole and I saw I'm non Paradise,

854
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: I probably would want to say something mean about your

855
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: perfect because it's so perfect. I mean, I mean, really,

856
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: she really is perfect. But Angela, what was it like

857
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: watching back and like just seeing Nicole say all those

858
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: hurtful things when she didn't even know you, you had

859
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: not even met before. Yeah, you know, honestly, it was

860
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: really hard to kind of see the ridicule. It didn't

861
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: feel great. Um, you know, everyone reacts differently in stressful situations.

862
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not going to sit here and

863
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: bash hersh again, She's entitled to say and you know,

864
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: express how she feels. Um, I personally would have taken

865
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: a different route, but you know, I get it. It's

866
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: a weird situation. But yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna lie.

867
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: It was. It was super hurtful, just because it's like

868
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: you guys don't like if I deserve it. That's another thing,

869
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: like fine, like lay it on like if I deserved it.

870
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: But like at this point, I didn't know any of

871
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: them at all. Um, So for like the girls, I

872
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm just all about like supporting each other.

873
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean it was hurtful for sure. I

874
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: think you know, we had Nicole on the podcast a

875
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and I don't know her about well obviously,

876
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: I just know her from that brief conversation and just

877
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: from what I've seen on the show. I will say this,

878
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 1: I bet I feel that all of this is coming

879
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: from a place of hurt. Yeah you know what I mean,

880
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: like scarcity, Yeah yeah, like you know, the saying hurt people,

881
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: hurt people. I feel like that's the situation here, and

882
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: not that I'm trying to excuse her words or what

883
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: she said, yeah, because it's it's not okay. You're right,

884
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: it's not okay to say those things. I was really

885
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: hard on Connor when he called Luke even though Luke

886
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: P was terrible. I was hurt on him when he

887
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: called Luke P a psychopath and swore at him at

888
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: the mental all because I just thought, just because someone's

889
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: a bully doesn't give you the right to bully back. Yeah.

890
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: So I guess my point in this is what I'm

891
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: saying is what she said about you was wrong, completely wrong.

892
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: But I do think that there's a lot of jealousy there,

893
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: and a lot of hurt, so I hope, and a

894
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: lot of insecurity. Insecurity, and I mean, Angela, you are

895
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: so beautiful, so of course, any I think woman would

896
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: just immediately feel threatened, especially in that environment where I'm

897
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: in is fleeting and she's you know, very infested in

898
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: this relationship with Clay that we've seen play out where

899
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean she's really head over heels. So yeah, it

900
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: absolutely does not excuse for behavior. But I just want

901
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: to say Angela again, like just commending you just having

902
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: like class and and really just a lot of grace.

903
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: That's really great. And I want to ask you, how

904
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: how has it been on social media your entrance, because

905
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: we've seen how the Bachelor cast has felt about potential

906
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: ulterior motives. How has it been on social media? Have

907
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: you gotten any heat? So I was, you know, anticipating

908
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: a lot of negativity actually just you know, I just

909
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: wanted to be prepared like mentally, and it honestly was

910
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: not really got bad people. I think once people saw me,

911
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: you know, explain, I don't want there to be a

912
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: double standard. If it's if he deserves to be here

913
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: and it's okay for him, why why on earth would

914
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: it not be okay for me? So I think once people,

915
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, realized that, everyone was like, oh my gosh,

916
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: that's so true, like why why would she not get

917
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: the same chance. So it honestly wasn't as bad as

918
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be. I mean, of

919
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: course you have your trolls that you just have to

920
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: delete and block, and you know, it's like, if you

921
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: come on my page and spread negativity, you're gonna get

922
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: delete and you're gonna get blocked. Like that's just I'm sorry,

923
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm not going to stand for that. But it honestly,

924
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: I received a lot of a lot of support and

925
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm so happy and like thankful, and again like I

926
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: don't want anybody to tear down the cole or anybody

927
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: else either, Like I just I think it's like, you know,

928
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: I I tweeted this last night. If you don't have

929
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: anything nice to say, then just don't say it at all.

930
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: And you sat down with Clay and you talk to him.

931
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: That's when I knew, Okay, this girl has every right

932
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: to be here. And I think a lot of people

933
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: watching felt that same way because you were very clear,

934
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: You're very you're respectful, you were you spoke very eloquently,

935
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: and there was no like I felt, no, I'm here

936
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: to get you back when yeah, you were in that conversation. Yeah,

937
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: And to be honest, it's like I have a lot

938
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: of like personal stuff going on in my life right

939
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: now that It's like, I'm not I would never put

940
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: myself in that situation if I didn't think there was

941
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: potential in either of those relationships and connections that I

942
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: had made. Why on earth would I ever put myself

943
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: through that weird situation if it wasn't if I wasn't

944
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: serious about finding somebody, like I don't you know what

945
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it just it was so like black

946
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: and white to me, like playing this day, Like why

947
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: isn't everybody seeing this? But I also see the other side.

948
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I I'm not, like I said,

949
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: a petty person or a drama person, like excuse me,

950
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to waste my time just to

951
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: try to like ruin your time, Like really, like you

952
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: think I care that much? Like, yeah, I'm an adult,

953
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm an adult. Yeah. I want to

954
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: ask you when you and Clay were talking, m I

955
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: was a little nervous to like watch that play back,

956
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: and because I knew from your perspective, when you came back,

957
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: you shared with me how that had gone. I know

958
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: you were really nervous to see how it would unfold,

959
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: and I know he had he had made some remarks

960
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: that were really really hurtful, and he had said that

961
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 1: he broke up with you because you asked like, why

962
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: did he break up with you? And he shared for really,

963
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: I guess the first time was that he said that

964
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: he wanted someone who had bigger goals than to just

965
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: be a mother and housewife. How did that feel hearing that? Yeah?

966
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: I thought, um, I thought that was a little ridiculous

967
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: because let me just start by saying, for the first

968
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, two months, he's sitting there saying, you know,

969
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: it's not me he wants. He knows we're supposed to

970
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: be together. I'm his wife, blah blah blah, like I

971
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: just need to find myself. And then he sits there

972
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: and changes his story. He's like, well, I didn't tell

973
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: you any of this because I didn't want to hurt you.

974
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: Yet he it's like, wait a minute, so I caught

975
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: you there in a lie. And then he's coming up

976
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: with his ridiculous claims and it's yes, I honestly like

977
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: I feel God put me on this earth to be

978
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: a wife and a mother and that's what I excel

979
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,959
Speaker 1: at that, Like how dare you diminish that just because

980
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't line up with whatever? Like it's twenty nineteen.

981
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: Women can be whatever the hell we want to be, Like,

982
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: if we want to be a CEO perfect, if we

983
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: want to be a mom, kill it, if we want

984
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: to be an artist on the street work it like,

985
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: how dare you like that to me? And it's like,

986
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: of course I have other goals, Like I really love

987
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: to do interior design, I have a YouTube channel, I'm

988
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: a model, like I have. I certainly have other goals

989
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: and things that I do. Like it really wooh, Like

990
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: that was just a low blow in my opinion. Yeah,

991
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: I know you were really hurt about that, and I

992
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: think that, Yeah, I'm I want to see how that's

993
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: going to play out with women who are stay at

994
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: home moms who race them, because that is a really

995
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: tough job. And so I felt that I was I

996
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: was really disappointed when he had said that, because I

997
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: felt that he was really minimizing the power and strength

998
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: of you know, mom's exactly. Yeah, I have two children,

999
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 1: one and three, um, and I will say that I

1000
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: have the utmost respect for stay at home mothers. I

1001
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: cannot imagine how difficult. I can't imagine because I have

1002
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: my kids, but that would be the most difficult job

1003
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: in the entire world. It takes so much passion and

1004
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: patience and love and commitment and physicality. It's exhausting to

1005
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: be a stay at home mom. I mean I had

1006
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: been a stay at home mom at times. You know,

1007
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: first eight months of my daughter's life, I was a

1008
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: stay at home mom while trying to work on the side,

1009
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: but nobody watched her except for me. So yeah, no,

1010
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like I can still have my side homes.

1011
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: Like the thing, he just worded it in a way

1012
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: that made it seem like I was just lazy and

1013
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: wanted that's exactly. And I'm like, and I'm like, excuse me, sir,

1014
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: Like I paid for every single flight to Chicago, which

1015
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: was a lot. Like I never asked him for anything,

1016
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: like how dare you? How dare you? Like I was

1017
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: very that was like, okay, buddy, all right, cool. You know.

1018
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: One of my favorite parts of that conversation was He's like,

1019
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: and I just wanted you to go to the gym

1020
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: with me, And You're like, but you know, you'll go

1021
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: for four hours. I don't want to go for four

1022
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: hours to the gym, you guys, well, you can't at

1023
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: least go and warm up with me. She's like no,

1024
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't go to the gym with me. And also, okay,

1025
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: so like one of my favorite things is like you

1026
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: know even like called like revenge Body, and that was

1027
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: a big thing. Also he was like, I mean that

1028
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: was a big thing too. He's like, I want you

1029
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: to work out with me. And I knew that when

1030
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: we were vacationing like in Miami, you know, like a

1031
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 1: year ago in September, and like you weren't super into

1032
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: working out at that time, but breaking up, you had

1033
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: heard he'd said these he'd had those remarks. You know,

1034
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: you'd heard he'd said those things about you that not

1035
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,959
Speaker 1: going to the gym, and so I want to ask,

1036
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: like was that like what like spurned you to like

1037
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: dedicate yourself and this like hell the fitness because Angela

1038
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: calls me, she's like, girl, like let me know what

1039
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: to do in the gym. I was there and like

1040
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: I knew like she was like on this like hunt

1041
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: to like get in the best shape of her of

1042
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: her life. And I want to say, Angela, I want

1043
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: to commend you because I am a health and fitness

1044
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: coach and it is like when you use like fitness

1045
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: as your tool to empower yourself and like work through you,

1046
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: like your anger, frustrations and like believe in yourself. It

1047
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: can transform your life. Yeah. No, it's like, so I

1048
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: didn't do it like for Clay. It was kind of

1049
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: more like a cathartic thing to me. And also, this

1050
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 1: is the part that didn't get shown is I kept

1051
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: telling Clay in our relationship, as soon as we like

1052
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: settle down in one place, we're not moving hotels every night,

1053
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: we're not you know, traveling here, and they're like, as

1054
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: soon as we have a stable life, like I go

1055
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: to the gym, I do. I just it's it's hectic,

1056
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: you know, when you're just moving around. But it's like, no,

1057
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: it's like you ever hear that quote like being motivated

1058
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: by every MF that ever did you wrong and then

1059
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: do it for you Like that's my that's my mom.

1060
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: Like I did it for me. Yeah, I mean one

1061
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: thing I will say, but you know everything else, but

1062
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: I did it. I did it for me as more

1063
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: of like a cathartic kind of really. And also like Angela,

1064
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: we talked about this, I just wouldn't like say this

1065
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: because um, everyone was like, oh my gosh, you lost

1066
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: so much waight, and like, how much did you lose?

1067
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: He lost like ten pounds less than that. Yo, I

1068
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: just toned. I just toned. I lost like, yeah, it

1069
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: wasn't even it was nothing. And I just toned up.

1070
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: And everybody was acting like I was like two hundred

1071
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: pounds and lost like one hundred pounds. I'm like, y'all,

1072
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: was I fought before? And nobody nobody told me, Like,

1073
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was that bad before. We just

1074
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: used to lean muscle on you and you look fabulous.

1075
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: I just toned up a little bit. Yeah, I mean,

1076
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: I think those are conversations that you need to have,

1077
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: Like if it's something that's really important to you, like

1078
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: you need to say so, you know if something you know,

1079
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: something that's really important to me is sitting on the

1080
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: clouch at the end of the day and having a

1081
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: glass of wine. That is very important to me. Okay,

1082
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: I look forward to that day from the time I

1083
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: wake up in the I'm kidding, I'm kidd but um.

1084
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: And if my husband never wanted to do that, let's

1085
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: say every day at the end of the day when

1086
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: we put the kids to bed, he wanted to go

1087
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: for a run. That was his thing. I would say

1088
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: to him one day, Hey, babe, you know it's really

1089
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: important to me to like have a glass of wine

1090
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the night and watch a show.

1091
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: And I really want to do that with you because

1092
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: I love you and you're my spouse, and I would,

1093
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: I would, I'd like you to do that with me

1094
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: because that's our time to sort of bond at the

1095
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: end of the night. So I think that sort of

1096
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: maybe where what he meant by that, Like I wish

1097
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: that you like shared in some of the things that

1098
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: I like to do with me. But it's just like

1099
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: the way he went about it, and obviously too late,

1100
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: too little, too little, too late, And like I think

1101
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: ultimately comes down to, like what's the lesson in the

1102
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 1: blessing here? Open communication exactly speaking to your spouse about

1103
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: the things that are important to you. And you know,

1104
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 1: fitness is important to me, And I know, like I

1105
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: was in a relationship when I was training in a competition,

1106
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: and I can relate because Clay, I mean he training

1107
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: was a part of his job. I mean it really

1108
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: really was. He has an hour warm up. And I

1109
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: know when I was when I did like fitness competition,

1110
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: I was dating someone and I was working out a

1111
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: meal prepping and very very committed to that goal and

1112
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: my now ex was not. And it really did cause

1113
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 1: a rift in our relationship because I felt almost guilt

1114
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: for putting us work into this important goal of mine

1115
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: and I really needed that support and it really caused

1116
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 1: a riff. So I always talk like with my clients

1117
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: like who are starting journeys and how they need to

1118
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: have the open communication with their partner of bringing onboard

1119
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: I call it spouse onboarding and bringing them on and

1120
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: bringing them into your goal and then working on it together.

1121
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you it's like when you have that conversation,

1122
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: you feel supported, you're empowered, and you're doing it together

1123
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: as a couple. So did Clayver sit down like talk

1124
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: of you and just say, hey, this is really important

1125
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: to me, Like can you support me to be a

1126
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: part of this. Yeah, well here's the thing. As like

1127
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: I literally always supported him and encouraged him like, yeah,

1128
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: go take the cut, you know the time, go train,

1129
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: Like I know this is important to you and it's

1130
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: part of working towards your goal. Because he was trying,

1131
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, so hard to get into the back into

1132
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: the NFL. And I totally supported him, like, please go

1133
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: take time, go do you like, even though you know

1134
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: I was in Chicago and whatever, I was like, I

1135
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: can be by myself. Like I totally supported him and

1136
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: wanted him to do that. So, I mean, it was

1137
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: it was never a fact of like, oh, I was like, oh,

1138
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: don't go to the gym. I was like, go to

1139
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: the gym, go like, go for it. I was totally sor.

1140
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put myself in your shoes, and I'm

1141
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: trying to imagine being in the situation of going to

1142
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: Paradise this guy who you didn't just date, you were

1143
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,479
Speaker 1: in love with, Like you saw yourself marrying, you saw

1144
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: yourself having your children with this man. When they're picking

1145
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: up baby names picking up baby names. There had to

1146
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: have been, in my opinion, some part of you that

1147
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: was hoping you guys would get back together in Paradise.

1148
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: Do you want me to be completely honest? Yes, I

1149
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: don't want to be I mean, I don't want to

1150
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: be like savage or whatever. I'm not going to. But

1151
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: it's just like, like I said, like the moment that

1152
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: I knew he stepped onto that beach, I was done.

1153
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: I was done. Something just shows I'm like this it was,

1154
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: like I said, like it was like the last care

1155
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: in me was given at that moment, because I'm like,

1156
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: this man gives zero cares about me because he knew,

1157
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: like he knew it was wrong he did. And you know,

1158
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: I said, like I said, he's a grown man. He

1159
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: can do what he wants. He makes his own decisions, obviously,

1160
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: but the moment, like and like I said, there's like

1161
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: a lot of outside it's stuff happening that he also

1162
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: knew about. And I'm like, this man literally gives no

1163
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: cares about me. He gives no cares. So whenever, you know,

1164
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: I knew he did that, I was like, I don't,

1165
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: like I said, like, I'm not bashing Clay Clay, you

1166
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm not. I'm not going to

1167
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: tear him down. He's entitled to whatever he wants to do.

1168
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: But I just knew for me personally at that moment,

1169
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want somebody who could who could

1170
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: do that to me. And I just feel like he

1171
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: has just throughout the course of a relationship, like just

1172
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: repeatedly hurt me, like over and over again, like just repeatedly,

1173
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: and so I was like, I don't want to be

1174
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: with somebody like that. I deserve more. I know my

1175
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: worth and I know what I have to offer, and

1176
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: I want to offer that to somebody who would not

1177
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: treat me the way that I was treated. Do you

1178
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: think that? And that's nothing against Claid, No, that's really

1179
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: wise words. Um, Do you think that you are ready

1180
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: for a new relationship, that you are fully over all

1181
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: the hurt that Clay has caused you and like ready

1182
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: to give yourself fully to someone. I have been ready,

1183
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, I've I'm the one I'm not the one person,

1184
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: but I'm one of the few people that always goes

1185
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 1: on the shows truly honestly looking for love. I want

1186
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: to leave engaged every time that I go. I, like

1187
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: I said, like, I just feel like my calling has

1188
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: just been so deeply rooted and you know, finding the

1189
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: love of my life and starting a family and and

1190
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: things like that, and that's something that I'm very serious

1191
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: about and that's really like my main priority right now.

1192
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I have my side hustles, but that's

1193
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: kind of like my one puzzle piece that's been missing,

1194
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: and I've been so ready for that. I just you know,

1195
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: I want someone to go to, like hold foods with

1196
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: and just walk around, you know, I just want someone

1197
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: to do life with. And I'm I'm so ready for

1198
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 1: that companion. If there was one thing you could change

1199
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: in the last twelve months, what would that be? Ooh M,

1200
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: that's a tough one. I would say probably just recognizing

1201
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: and coming to the realization earlier. Um, you know, not

1202
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: letting that break up be dragged out as long as

1203
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: it was drug out. Um. I would say that probably

1204
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: like standing up for myself sooner. I would say, what

1205
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: do you think of Clay today? Like, what are your

1206
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: feelings on him right now? I just really hope that

1207
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: he's happy, and like again, like I really I'm not

1208
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm not bitter, And that that did hurt my feelings.

1209
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: I saw in the episode he called me bitter. I'm

1210
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: not a bitter person. I don't hold grudges. Um, that

1211
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: that did hurt my feelings. I'm not bitter. I do

1212
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: wish him the best. I hope he's happy. I hope he,

1213
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, does figure out his next steps in life

1214
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: and finds himself or has found himself. And I really

1215
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: don't wish any ill will towards him. I hope he's

1216
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: happy because it made you know, it just made me

1217
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: very sad to see him so low. So again, like

1218
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: we play and I went through a lot together. We

1219
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: went through a lot, and I just I wish him

1220
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: nothing but the best. To be honest, you chose to

1221
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: give your rose to Chase over Mike, and Mike's got

1222
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: a pretty hardcore Bachelor Nation following, so I think his

1223
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: fans are going to want to know, why did you

1224
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: make that decision? Yeah, so I decided to give my

1225
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: rose to Chase instead of Mike because I went on

1226
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: like back to back dates. Basically, I went on a

1227
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: date with Mike one day. The next day I went

1228
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: on the date with Chase. So I had, like, you know,

1229
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: a good time frame to kind of compare them, you know,

1230
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: to each other and see and my romantic connection with

1231
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: Chase was just stronger Mike and I kind of it's

1232
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: like after you know the date and having you know,

1233
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: that day with him and then going on the date

1234
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: with Chase, I realized, like, Okay, Mike and I seemed

1235
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: more kind of like friendly, like not buddy buddy, but

1236
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, just chill like homies, you know, I mean,

1237
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: you don't need to explain that, Like that's something you

1238
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: can't explain. Is a connection like you had a connection

1239
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: with like a strong one with two they're inmalatable? Yeah, Angela,

1240
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: I want to ask, like with Mike, we've seen so

1241
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: much of him just smiling all the time, Like I

1242
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: want to really see some more serious sides to him,

1243
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: Like are there other layers? Does he get upset? Does

1244
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: he get sad? Does he get angry? Is there a

1245
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: passion there? Did you experience any of those emotions like

1246
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: in your one on one date with him? Yeah, I

1247
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: mean we had some serious moments, you know, when him

1248
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: and I were discussing, you know, life things, he was

1249
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: more serious. And then on the beach um the next day, um,

1250
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, just discussing like you know, what we wanted

1251
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: in our futures and and things like that. Yeah, he

1252
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: does have a more serious side, um, you know, but

1253
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: Mike's known for his smile. It's infectious, you know, lights

1254
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: up a room. But yeah, I think Mike does have

1255
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: some more depth to him for sure. And don't hate me, Angela.

1256
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: And I'm almost embarrassed him at this, but I did

1257
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: say that I wanted Clay to be the Bachelor before

1258
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: this interview or before these episodes. Now, I definitely don't

1259
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: think that he is ready for that. Yeah, but sorry,

1260
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: I just felt like I had to be open and

1261
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: honest with you about that because this is all the communication. Yeah, yeah,

1262
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: and I guess I guess speaking of And just to

1263
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: wrap up your time with Clay, do you feel like

1264
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: you got the closure in that relationship that you needed? Oh? Yeah,

1265
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: for sure, I like have closure at this point, not

1266
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: when the relationship ended, but now you do, well, I

1267
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I like whenever we were on the beach,

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Speaker 1: I had closure too, right, all right, Angela, will this sales?

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Speaker 1: I know you're going to go off and meet someone amazing.

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Speaker 1: And you know, like we said, they pull these bachelor

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Speaker 1: and batcherettes out of anywhere. Who knows, you just never know. Um,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on the show today.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Oh, thanks for having me. It

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Speaker 1: was so fun chatting with you guys and Crystal. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, this was so much fun. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for having me. I had an absolute blast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and guys, just so you know, Christal woke up with

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Speaker 1: no voice this morning, and she like very interesting vocal

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Speaker 1: exercises and got her voice back. Yeah, just for this podcast.

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Speaker 1: I was honestly slating a little bit that whole train ride.

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Speaker 1: There was quite some weird noises coming from my vocals.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you so much. It was so much fun. Angela,

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Speaker 1: thank you too. You'll have to come back on the

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Speaker 1: show again. When Rachel is here, I know that she

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Speaker 1: would love to talk to you. Oh, I would love that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's the best. And for all of you listening, Rachel

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Speaker 1: will be back next week and we're going to hear

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Speaker 1: all about her wedding and her amazing honeymoon. I've seen

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Speaker 1: the pictures and it just looks incredible. Looks like she's

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Speaker 1: relaxing and just soaking up all the love that her

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Speaker 1: and Brian have together. And I can't wait to hear

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Speaker 1: all about it. In the meantime, you can get all

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Speaker 1: the latest bachel Nation news on bachel Nation dot com.

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Speaker 1: And we want to hear from you guys, So tell

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Speaker 1: us what you like and don't like about the show,

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Speaker 1: but please be nice. We have feelings and we want

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Speaker 1: you to tell us what you want to hear more of,

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Speaker 1: so hit us up on social media. You can also

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Speaker 1: email us at happy Hour at bachelor nation dot com

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Speaker 1: and visit Bachelor nation dot com, m and click podcasts