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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 2: We got a stacked news day already. Let's just get

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Speaker 2: to some of what we're going to hit on here.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden asked to comment on the horrific fire in

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Speaker 2: Maui and Hawaii and has a no comment comment on it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people pointing to.

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Speaker 2: This and saying, well, many things, but it's not a

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Speaker 2: I'm not a surprise thosers who think that Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: has become effectively a soulless puppet, or maybe he has

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Speaker 2: been all along. We will discuss that on a much

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Speaker 2: less serious front. Elon Musk versus Mark Zuckerberg. It looks

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Speaker 2: like that cage match is not going to happen right now.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of back and forth on it

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. A smash and grab organized retail theft

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Speaker 2: video out of the TOPEG mall in California went viral

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. It looked like people a mob stole tens,

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Speaker 2: perhaps even hundreds of thousands of dollars of merchandise all

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Speaker 2: at once. Broad daylight doesn't care, doesn't make a difference,

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Speaker 2: and I will discuss this. Plus in New York City now,

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Speaker 2: the migrant camp, or as Iron pointing out to everybody,

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Speaker 2: the refugee camp is growing on Randall's Island. There are

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Speaker 2: other places they are thinking about building them. We have

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Speaker 2: Trump weighing in Clay on the judge in his case

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Speaker 2: who put down a protective order. Trump tweeted or truthed,

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Speaker 2: she wants me behind bars. That's in response to a

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Speaker 2: protective order. We shall discuss that people are realizing what

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Speaker 2: a sham. The special council appointment from last week looks

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Speaker 2: like it is likely to be here. That's certainly analysis

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Speaker 2: will do. But I think Clay, we got to kick

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Speaker 2: it off today with the Fulton County District Attorney presenting

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Speaker 2: to a grand jury. This is being reported all across

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Speaker 2: the media, the case against Donald Trump state level charges,

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Speaker 2: which is important. We'll discuss why about the well what

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Speaker 2: CNN is calling the subversion of the twenty twenty election

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Speaker 2: in the state of Georgia. That case to be presented

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Speaker 2: to the grand jury is probably happening right now, though

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Speaker 2: I guess they may be taking lunch.

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Speaker 1: Break or something.

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Speaker 2: But twenty people, Clay expected to be charged. We know that,

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Speaker 2: for example, in Michigan there have been state charges on

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Speaker 2: the electors' case. Sixteen people were charged there. Twenty are

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Speaker 2: expected to be charged, including Donald Trump in Atlanta for

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Speaker 2: violations of Georgia state law. And we're expecting the to

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Speaker 2: come down, perhaps today while we're doing the show, perhaps

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Speaker 2: later this week. But Clay, here we have an instance

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Speaker 2: of well prosecutorial targeting for political reasons. I think that's

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Speaker 2: too obvious. It's the fourth fourth indictment that Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: would be facing on criminal charges. If this comes down,

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Speaker 2: count them, everybody. For how much do you think this

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Speaker 2: is going to have an effect one way or the

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Speaker 2: other on twenty twenty four and the future of all

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Speaker 2: things Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: I think with.

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Speaker 3: Each successive indictment, people pay less attention to them. And

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Speaker 3: what I mean by that is not that they're becoming

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Speaker 3: less significant or less serious. I just mean that most

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Speaker 3: the entire mechanism of the Democrat Party is trying to

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Speaker 3: put Donald Trump in prison. And so yes, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of focus. I'm curious if you would agree with

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Speaker 3: we had never seen it before, a lot of focus

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Speaker 3: understand you and me and a huge percentage of our

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Speaker 3: listeners out there are following all of this in a

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Speaker 3: nuanced level and analyzing the different cases and the timelines

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Speaker 3: and I don't think they're sitting around fine tuning what

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Speaker 1: I think that's the.

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Speaker 2: Political reality of what we're seeing at this moment. I

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Speaker 2: perhaps a bit I don't know if it's more precarious.

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Speaker 2: But the added layer to all of this is I

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Speaker 2: don't believe anyone thinks the New York charges are serious,

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Speaker 2: it is truly. I don't care if Donald Trump was

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Speaker 2: the reincarnation of Stalin. The New York thing is preposterous, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: It's what, however much they hate Trump, it doesn't justify

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Speaker 2: It's it's like trying to lock somebody up for you know,

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Speaker 1: It's absurd, okay in.

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Speaker 2: It And now we all know that the other two

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Speaker 2: federal indictments that have come down, those could be wiped

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Speaker 2: away by Trump if he were to win. You've raised

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Speaker 2: the possibility of Biden in some grand Washingtonian gesture to

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Speaker 2: have to change our assessments. I think of who Joe

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Speaker 2: But I do agree that as a strategy, that would

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Speaker 2: probably be best for the country.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about that speech he comes forward.

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Speaker 2: He says, we're gonna put we're gonna put all of

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Speaker 2: people to decide. That would be great. I think I'd

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Speaker 2: give someone a hundred or one to one hundred odds

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Speaker 2: on that one one hundred. Actually you almost got it right,

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Speaker 2: one hundred to one.

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Speaker 1: It was a hundred one night. I always do this.

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Speaker 3: One to one hundred, is you think it's almost certain

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Speaker 2: Okay, one hundred to one odds, it's definitely not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: But on the Georgia charges that are now imminent, and

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Speaker 2: I think I do remember people right again, like stop

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Speaker 2: talking about these charges is like you want them to

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Speaker 2: know they're just going to happen, right. I mean we've

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Speaker 2: that indictment as well. I don't want to get ahead

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Speaker 1: And Clay, they're saying there could be racketeering.

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Speaker 2: Charges brought that you know, that's what they use for,

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Speaker 2: like mob bosses and drug rings and things like that.

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Speaker 1: But that may be a part of this.

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Speaker 2: They're also really honing in. I went and I read,

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Speaker 2: I read all the enemy's plans this morning. I read

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Speaker 2: the New York Times in detail, right, I mean, you

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Speaker 2: know you did this too. We saw if they bring

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Speaker 2: You're seeing people say that prosecutors have texts and emails

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Speaker 2: directly connecting members of Trump's legal team to a January

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Speaker 1: Trump's people.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to get into all the details right now,

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Speaker 2: but some people acting on behalf of Trump went.

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Speaker 2: I think this is interesting, Clay, there are a lot

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Speaker 2: again an abuse of the law, but the statutory language

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Speaker 2: If Trump is going to be re elected president of

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Speaker 2: What's going to happen in the state of Georgia Because

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Speaker 2: Georgia was decided I believe buck by eleven thousand votes,

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Speaker 2: I think that part of what we need to face

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Speaker 2: up to what everyone who is hoping for a just

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Speaker 2: outcome here and the best outcome for the country, which

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Speaker 2: would be Donald Trump, beats all this and then you

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Speaker 2: have Trump or another Republican, But Trump or another Republican

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Speaker 2: who wins and defeats Joe Biden. Right, that's what we

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Speaker 2: to bring all these there's the processes, the punishment component

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Speaker 2: Is why you guys should subscribe to clayon Buck you know, YouTube,

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Speaker 2: So let me tell you the racketeering thing. I looked

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Speaker 3: There may be legal peril in Georgia, however, for Trump

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why that's why the Georgia charges are so

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Speaker 1: There's even a New York we don't even talk about this.

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Speaker 3: So I have two thoughts, and I know we have

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Speaker 1: And signed by Brian Kemp. I'm just putting it out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what you got?

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the charges that are circulating. Yeah, that's what.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I was trying to read to make

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Speaker 3: sure that it was the right thing that got screenshotted.

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Speaker 2: Georgia's Georgia's ricos. So I brought up RICO before. I

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Speaker 2: didn't even know this. Rico is what they're going for,

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Speaker 2: which is a version of racketeering. It's the racketeering a

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Speaker 2: Racketeer Influencing Corrupt Organizations Act Solicitation of Now, look, these

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Speaker 2: are not the official charges, but they were leaked on

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Speaker 2: the on the court website. So I think it's a

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Speaker 2: pretty we'll say this is a pretty strong indicator of

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Speaker 2: what's to come.

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Speaker 3: Well, not what I was looking at buck to try

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Speaker 3: to make sure it's the right screenshot. So we get

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Speaker 3: the because it definitely got leaked, So just make sure

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Speaker 3: you're looking and makes or it's a good source that's

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Speaker 3: sharing the screenshot.

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Speaker 2: It says FULTONCOUNTYGA dot gov and it's being shared here

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Speaker 2: by our buddy Mike Cernovich had tip Mike Cernovich here

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Speaker 2: on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: All right, he's a smart guy. I feel good about

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Speaker 3: him as a as a source. He's a smart fellow.

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Speaker 2: Conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer, solicitation of violation

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Speaker 2: of oath by a public officer, Conspiracy to commit forgery

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Speaker 2: in the first degree, Conspiracy to commit false statements and

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Speaker 2: writings again, another one of those charges. Another one of

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Speaker 2: those charges, and wow, a lot of those. Conspiracy to

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Speaker 2: commit false I'm sorry, filing false documents, solicitation, a violation

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Speaker 2: of oh, false process charges. It's a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: process charges with a rico charge thrown on top to

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Speaker 2: make it sound scary.

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Speaker 1: That is what we're looking at here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I said move to federal court because basically

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Speaker 3: this is dealing with a federal election. I could see

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Speaker 3: an argument again not having read the full indictment, but

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Speaker 3: again on this is a really bad thing. It supposedly

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Speaker 3: has leaked on the Fulton County website. Move to federal court.

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Speaker 3: That would give Trump an ability to pardon himself in

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Speaker 3: the event he won the election, or any other Republican

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Speaker 3: candidate who was in the oval office would have the

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Speaker 3: ability to do it. And so that's option one. Option

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Speaker 3: two buck because this is going to be Fulton County,

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Speaker 3: which is Atlanta, which is a left wing jurisdiction favorable

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Speaker 3: for the prosecutor. The Republican legislature allowing a defendant in

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Speaker 3: this case to get automatic removal to another county. Basically,

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Speaker 3: any county in all of Georgia would be better for

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Speaker 3: Trump than Fulton County. So could he get this moved

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Speaker 3: out of Fulton County based on the Georgia Republican legislature

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Speaker 3: passing a bill that would allow special jurisdiction. I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure of the Georgia constitution, but this is important. We

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Speaker 3: know Brian Kemp cannot part and Trump the governor does

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Speaker 3: not have the ability to pardon under state law. So

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Speaker 3: what might happen going forward. There's a lot of moving parts.

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Speaker 2: So first we have to actually see what the real

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Speaker 2: charges are, which we don't officially know yet, So you know,

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Speaker 2: we're already looking ahead to what's the next step the

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Speaker 2: Georgia legislature, in my opinion, should be. He's ready for

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Speaker 2: his opening statement in front of the jury already, but

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Speaker 2: we got to find out what the charges are. So

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get into some more of this eight hundred

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Speaker 3: Learn laugh and join us on the weekend on our

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Speaker 3: the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: We are sitting here just going over on the team here,

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Speaker 2: Clay and I and everyone in New York.

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Speaker 1: We're going over this. It's hard to believe.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is that they've put the charges that

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Speaker 2: are imminent against Trump out. It seems on the website

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Speaker 2: for the Fulton County Courthouse in Atlanta, before.

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Speaker 1: They were voted on by a grand jury.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of the whole point, right, The whole point

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Speaker 2: is the grand jury votes and decides yes, you are indicted.

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Speaker 2: It's not a good look to say, here's the indictment

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Speaker 2: against this person in advance of whether they should be

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Speaker 2: indicted even in the first place, because a grand jury

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Speaker 2: has said so. It does seem right now that that

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Speaker 2: was a quite an oopsie moment, and that the top count,

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Speaker 2: as I had suspected, is a it's a Georgia state

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Speaker 2: rico or racketeering related charge. Effectively, that becomes the umbrella

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Speaker 2: charge for all the false documents and this and then

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Speaker 2: that and nothing else. Right, that's and they lay out

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Speaker 2: a lot of those. There's a lot of replication or

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Speaker 2: repetition of specific counts in all this. And we're going

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Speaker 2: to continue to watch this right now. You know, we

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Speaker 2: don't want to get too deep down the rabbit hole

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Speaker 2: of the analysis on this because Clay, if the assuming

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Speaker 2: the grand jury hasn't voted, maybe the grand jury hasn't

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Speaker 2: indicted or won't even indict on all of these counts,

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Speaker 2: or we don't know, but you he's got he's got breaking,

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Speaker 2: He's got Clay breaking. Well no, I just think, look

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Speaker 2: this is potentially buck. Now, let's let's give some some

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Speaker 2: we don't know. There has not been a statement issued

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Speaker 2: by the Fulden County Grand Jury or Fanny Willis, who

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Speaker 2: was conducting this investigation, So there are several potential ideas here.

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Speaker 2: What could have happened Buck is maybe they've already voted

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Speaker 2: for the grand jury indictments, and they are holding them

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Speaker 2: until they are releasing them at a specific time today

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Speaker 2: for instance, or maybe tomorrow, So that is possible. There

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Speaker 2: is also the possibility that they upload as a general rule,

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Speaker 2: all of the potential indictments that the prosecution is seeking,

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Speaker 2: and then based on what the grand jury does, they

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Speaker 2: remove or add or adjust the indictments as are later

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Speaker 2: determined to be accurate. But this assuming that there has

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Speaker 2: not been any voting yet on these grand jury indictments.

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Speaker 2: This is a massive screw up, a massive screw up,

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Speaker 2: and I actually want to ask eight hundred and two

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Speaker 2: eight two two eight eight two if this is up,

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Speaker 2: then it could implicate the legitimacy of the grand jury.

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Speaker 2: I want the defense attorneys out there who have been

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Speaker 2: involved in cases I've done criminal law before. I can

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Speaker 2: be honest with you, Buck, I've never seen charges posted

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Speaker 2: on an official website before the charges were valid.

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Speaker 3: And if that is true, if that is what occurred,

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Speaker 3: it seems to me this would be you'd be able

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Speaker 3: to attack the grand jury itself as illegitimately. Well, again,

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Speaker 3: I want to hear the defense attorneys. I agree that.

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Speaker 2: The fix is in, but I think they'll just say,

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Speaker 2: mistakes happen. This is process. It doesn't change anything. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I would be shocked if there's some because think about

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Speaker 2: that too. So you know, if you're if you're about

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Speaker 2: to get indicted for murder and some clerk in the

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Speaker 2: courthouse puts up the murder charge before the grand jury

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Speaker 2: actually comes back with the indictment, now you're not gonna

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Speaker 2: get charged with murdered.

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Speaker 1: Or even what would happen is you might have to

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Speaker 1: see a new grand jury. Oh well maybe that might happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how long this grand jury in

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Speaker 3: particular has been seated to hear the charges. But if

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Speaker 3: your concern is that, and this is generally the concern,

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Speaker 3: so let me just lay out what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, there are people far more skilled

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Speaker 3: than me in the criminal justice system eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: two eight two two eight eight two. I'm curious if

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Speaker 3: any of you have any experience with this. What I'm

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Speaker 3: saying is usually grandeurors are instructed. What buck don't talk

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Speaker 3: about what you're hearing. This is supposed to be all secret.

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Speaker 3: You're not supposed to be influenced by any sort of

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Speaker 3: external noise, as it pertains to this case. And therefore,

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Speaker 3: if the Fulton County prosecutor herself has already put out

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Speaker 3: that Donald Trump is indicted, and Reuter's is writing about it,

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Speaker 3: and media has taken it and running with it, that

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Speaker 3: could implicate the independence of the grand jury itself. I

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Speaker 3: would argue as a criminal defense attorney, right, so that

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Speaker 3: probably just impanel a new grand jury and get a

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Speaker 3: new indictment. But I don't think I take it. But

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Speaker 3: it might take I don't know how long that would take.

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Speaker 3: That might take months and what they're trying to do

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Speaker 3: right now, and I don't know the answer. It may

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Speaker 3: take less time, but they might have to cure this

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Speaker 3: grand jury indictment, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 3: I would love to hear from lawyers out there if

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Speaker 3: you've ever experienced anything like this, because I can't remember

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Speaker 3: the charges going up up on a website before the

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Speaker 3: charges have been levied by a grand jury.

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Speaker 2: My guess would be that it would go before a judge,

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Speaker 2: and the judge is unlikely to say that a what

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Speaker 2: they would call a good faith mistake in process will

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Speaker 2: result in such a shift in the But who knows.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm just taking the reasonable man standard here or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But that's actually well said. Do you know the reasonable

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Speaker 2: man standard is the foundation of most of the legal process.

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Speaker 2: Certainly we had in political science. There was a subdivision

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Speaker 2: of it at Amherst College called Law, Jurisprudence, and Social Thought,

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Speaker 2: which was effectively pre law. You could take as a

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Speaker 2: polysci major. As a Polyci major, I took these pre

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Speaker 2: law courses, so I remember a little bit of it sometimes,

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Speaker 2: but mostly Communists were teaching those courses, so that was

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Speaker 2: always a little complicated. You know, a lot of living

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Speaker 2: constitution nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Clay.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, here we have a big screw up in the system,

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Speaker 2: it seems playing out. We will continue to look at it.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted you for a couple of minutes here.

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Speaker 2: We'll put the video up at clayanbuck dot com so

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Speaker 2: you can all see it for yourself. I think people

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Speaker 2: are really finally just they're just sick to their stomachs

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Speaker 2: with these videos of these brazen Now this was a

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Speaker 2: violent theft as well.

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Speaker 1: I left that out.

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Speaker 2: Initially they used bear spray on a security guard, so

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Speaker 2: they effectively disabled the security guard with a non lethal

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Speaker 2: but you know, it's still a violent assault. They disabled

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Speaker 2: the security guard with bear spray. Matthew, you that security

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Speaker 2: guard by the way, even no kidding, you think it's

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Speaker 2: like like back in the nineties, some kid tried to,

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Speaker 2: you know, some like seventeen year old try to get

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Speaker 2: a pair of you know, sneakers out in his bag.

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Speaker 2: He's like terrified and it's a big problem. And the

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Speaker 2: parents come and you're like, should we ruined this young

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Speaker 2: man's life? What a world of difference it is now?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was the world we grew up in, Clay.

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Speaker 2: It seems now the theft is happening. They think up

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Speaker 2: to one hundred thousand dollars. This is at the Nordstrum

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Speaker 2: and Canoe Park, the Topanga Canyon Mall. It's apparently very

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Speaker 2: vehicle accessible. They had a couple of luxury vehicles ready

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Speaker 2: to go. So this was a it's almost like they

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Speaker 2: set up a bank robbery. They sent in the assault team,

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Speaker 2: they bear sprayed somebody. They think there were up to

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Speaker 2: thirty suspects Clay, Yeah, thirty different people. If someone is

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Speaker 2: a part of this, first of all, I would say they,

653
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 2: in a sane world, should be all charged with under

654
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: a gang violence statute, because if you're thirty people and

655
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: one of you runs up and you know, bear spray

656
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: somebody in the face in the furtherance of another crime.

657
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: That should be an enhancement. I'm sure under California law

658
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: it could be an enhancement because there was violence in

659
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: the commission of this felony. Even in California, it's a

660
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: felony to steal one hundred thousand dollars of stuff, Clay,

661
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: You know, does anyone have any faith that any of

662
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: these individuals will even be caught and if they're caught,

663
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: they'll be punished. This is the lawlessness here is. It's

664
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Speaker 2: making people recognize, honestly, how deprave the Democrat viewpoint on

665
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 2: this stuff has been, which is just it's just stuff.

666
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: If people are gonna steal it, we're not gonna use

667
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: any force. You don't pay your taxes, Republican and we're

668
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: gonna show up with men with guns and we're gonna

669
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: arrest you, and you know the whole thing. But if

670
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: you steal one hundred thousand dollars of merchandise and a

671
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: violent assault, nothing happens to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would encourage the video is up at

673
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: Clay and Buck. I think everybody needs to see this

674
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: because this is the kind of organized I would say

675
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: looting slash mass theft. I mean, this is not shoplifting.

676
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: This is the next step beyond shoplifting. You need to

677
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 3: see this video, and it's emblematic of the destruction of

678
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: the larger community in so many parts of Blue state

679
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: and Blue cities.

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Speaker 1: And the only way to fix this, we.

681
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: Know what to fix how to fix it, right, you

682
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: charge everybody to the fullest extent of the law.

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Speaker 1: That's the only solution here.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that Democrats have tried to argue, oh,

685
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: this is just somebody stealing because they're hungry, right, that

686
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: was the argument they tried to make as this mass

687
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: degree started taking off.

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00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just need they need money for bread to

689
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Speaker 1: feed themselves.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And and so I think when you look at this,

691
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: what's so sad about it in general is so many

692
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: of these retail establishments, whether it's a big shop like

693
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Speaker 3: Nordstrom or whether it's the random mom and pop gas

694
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: station out there, their margin of profit is very slim

695
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 3: on retail, and theft destroys it to a large extent.

696
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Speaker 3: And even worse than that is many of these communities,

697
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: due to community based theft, are losing the stores that

698
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 3: are open in these communities, and therefore all the jobs

699
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: are lost. So you're seeing Walgreens, you're sea cbs IS,

700
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Speaker 3: you're seeing Targets, You're seeing so many of these different

701
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Speaker 3: retailers that are based in many of these communities. I

702
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: saw an article about a local grocery store in the

703
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Speaker 3: Anacostia region of Washington, DC. So many low income neighborhoods,

704
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: it's hard to go to a grocery store, and when

705
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: you have theft like this, they end up having to

706
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Speaker 3: shut down. The jobs are lost, and people lose a

707
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Speaker 3: quality of life because they can't just go get the

708
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Speaker 3: food stuff that they need to take care of their family.

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Speaker 2: And imagine for a second, you're the security guard at

710
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Speaker 2: the Nordstrum in California. I don't know, maybe you're making

711
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what the minimum wage now in California is.

712
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: It's probably, like, you know, one hundred dollars an hour.

713
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, let's say you're making fifteen or twenty bucks

714
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: an hour as that security guard. You get violently assaulted,

715
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Speaker 2: bear sprayed in the face, and people who do that

716
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Speaker 2: to you are marching out of there without a care

717
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: in the world. With more money and stolen handbags under

718
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: their arms, then you will make in a year of

719
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: doing it the right way, of showing up for work,

720
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: of being a productive person. The messages that are being

721
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: sent by all of this are so corrosive throughout society

722
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: because you know, one of the biggest problems you have

723
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: in poor neighborhoods and even in poor countries. I we

724
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: look to our south and look at the drug trade.

725
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 2: If you break the rules and you make more money

726
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: and live a better life, that has massive downstream implications

727
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 2: for a lot of people who need to be able

728
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: to build themselves up are in a tough circumstance, and

729
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: they're going to say, well, hold on, I can make

730
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Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars a week selling drugs or a day whatever,

731
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Speaker 2: or I can do things the right way. I can

732
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: show up and I can work retail or I can

733
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Speaker 2: work at a fast food joint, or whatever the case

734
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: may be. When you see people that are stealing routinely

735
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: more than and these, no one thinks that the thirty

736
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: individuals are the first time they ever stole. They planned this, now, Clay,

737
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 2: this was a hit. Basically, Yeah, they reached exactly right,

738
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: and they're gonna make more money in one theft, And

739
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: even when they divide this up between them, they're gonna

740
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 2: make more money in one theft than a lot of

741
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: people are gonna make in a week in or a

742
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: month of doing things the right way. What does that

743
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: say to society?

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Speaker 3: And it's not stopping. We're three years in. If you

745
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 3: were of the opinion, oh, the George Floyd protests, remember

746
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: how they told us this is necessary for social justice.

747
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: You couldn't leave your house, but everybody suddenly could fill

748
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: the streets to protests for George Floyd. You couldn't go

749
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: see your sick relatives who may have died in the hospital,

750
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 3: but they had thousands of people showing up for Saint

751
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: George Floyd for his funeral in the Houston area, if

752
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: I remember correctly. And now you've got mass looting still

753
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: going on, organized designed to take and hit a major

754
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: department store, Nordstrom's, which the last I checked Buck Nordstrom's

755
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: not doing well. And how many malls out there in

756
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: general are doing well. The mall in general is under siege.

757
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: I'll look up Nordstrom's stock price. But for everybody out

758
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: there saying, oh, it's a big company, they have insurance.

759
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: There's no impact here. Nordstrom is on the ropes right now,

760
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: as are many other retail establishments. They're not swimming in profit,

761
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: they're not swimming in cash. They're actually in very dire straits.

762
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: And that's before the economy potentially starts to create where

763
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 3: over a trillion dollars in shopping debt now credit card debt.

764
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Speaker 3: It's not a lot of people don't have a lot

765
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Speaker 3: of flexibility and freedom to be spending money on excess objects.

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Speaker 2: We live in America where the Democrat mainstream will make

767
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: excuses for somebody who has built the career of theft

768
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars by just viewing from stores,

769
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: but if you use the wrong pronoun, they want you

770
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: fired from your job and ruined. That is the America

771
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: we live in through so true, Well, take some of

772
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: your calls. I want to hear from criminal attorneys about

773
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: the posting potentially of this indictment from the grand jury

774
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: before the grand jury actually indicts.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen it before. Who's out there for families

776
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,959
Speaker 3: left behind when a service member or first responder dies

777
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: or is severely injured in the line of duty, who's

778
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: helping our nation's homeless veterans, and who's helping our nation

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Speaker 1: That's t the number two T dot org. They're here

795
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Speaker 1: to shed lights on the truth every day. Clay, Travis

796
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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton. All right, so.

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Speaker 2: We haven't gotten any more updates from the Fulton County Courthouse.

798
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: Looks like maybe it won't officially come down today at

799
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: least while we're all on the air. Could come down

800
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: later today, but they only give us until three Eastern

801
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: on Clay and Buck, which is a shame. We can't

802
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: just go non stop Clay and Buck all the time.

803
00:45:54,520 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: But the White House is addressing right now the Hunter

804
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: Biden Special Counsel. If anything interesting comes out of this

805
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: press conference with Carrine Jeanpierre addressing reporters, we will bring

806
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: that to you as well. So we're looking for all

807
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 2: of these things. A couple other stories we want to

808
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: add into the mix here. One of them is you

809
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: may remember this was one of the most viral clips

810
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: I think in recent months of all things on the internet.

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Speaker 2: It reached that level where it turned into a cultural

812
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: phenomenon on its own.

813
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: It was a meme. It was a what's the best

814
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Speaker 1: ways esthetically pleasing woman? I think we surely good looking.

815
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Speaker 1: That's why it went viral.

816
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: Very good looking woman who is on a plane and

817
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: it goes completely bonkers on video and the video went

818
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 2: ultra viral. This was back in July, and and uh.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna right, it's got some bleeps in it.

820
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: We can play here here here is the viral moment

821
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Speaker 2: of the lady on plane play nine.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. And there's the reason why I'm getting

823
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Speaker 1: the everyone can you.

824
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 4: Either believe it or they cannot believe it.

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00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't give too that.

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Speaker 5: I am telling you right now, John, this.

827
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Speaker 1: Fact there is not real. And you can sit on

828
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Speaker 1: this plane and you can dive with this or not.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not going to Okay, So we've been

830
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Speaker 5: even listening to it. I've heard a few times before,

831
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Speaker 5: but now that I'm listening to with all of you,

832
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Speaker 5: it like it's like it feels like the first time

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Speaker 5: all over again.

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Speaker 2: It is not even vaguely clear. She almost makes it

835
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Speaker 2: sound like she thinks the plane is going to go.

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Speaker 3: Down, somebody is not real on the back of the plane,

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Speaker 3: and that as a result, the plane is gonna crack.

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00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: Well, what's the with John Lithgow And there's the gremlin

839
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Speaker 2: on the wing of the plane.

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Speaker 5: Isn't that.

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Wasn't that Bridesmaids no, no, no, no, you guys a

843
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about? Right, there's a famous there's like

844
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Speaker 2: a gremlin that's trying to pull apart the wing of

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Speaker 2: the plane. Someone helped me out here, teef. You guys

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Speaker 2: are yes the twilight Zone, thank you. It's a Twilight

847
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: Zone thing. But anyway, uh yeah, there's a gremlin on

848
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Speaker 2: the wing of the plane and he's like, guys, we're

849
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: all gonna go down. This gremlin's the winging the plane.

850
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: Everyone thinks he's crazy. They hold him down and you know,

851
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil it, but guess what. There

852
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: was a gremlin. She's yelling crazy stuff.

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00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: Her name. They finally found her. It took them a

854
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Speaker 1: few weeks.

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Speaker 2: She is a marketing VP. Yeah in uh in Texas

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Speaker 2: and it lives in like a two million dollar house

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Speaker 2: in Texas. And she has put out we don't have

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Speaker 2: to listen to the whole thing. Well, just listen it

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Speaker 2: for a minute or so, or you know, I mean

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Speaker 2: less than a minute, a moment or two. Here she

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00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: is crazy playing Lady. Tiffany Gomas put out her official

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Speaker 2: video yesterday, play a distressed.

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Speaker 4: He or not I should have been I should have

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Speaker 4: been in control of my emotions and that was not

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Speaker 4: the case. My use of profanity was completely unnecessary, and

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Speaker 4: I want to apologize to everyone on that plane, especially

867
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Speaker 4: those that had children aboard. We all have our bad moments,

868
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 4: some far worse than others, and mine happened to be

869
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: caught on camera for the whole world to see multiple times. Well,

870
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 4: it has been really comical for everyone, and I have

871
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 4: highly enjoyed so many of the means. On the flip side,

872
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 4: it is very invasive and unkind.

873
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: Okay, claick a couple of things here. One thought I

874
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 2: have about all this because it just went super super viral.

875
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 2: It was all over the internet. You couldn't open Twitter

876
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: or Facebook and not see some version of the crazy

877
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: plane lady thing for like a month. You know, it's

878
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: not like she was. You know, Okay, she cursed, she

879
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: shouldn't curR different of kids to find. But I don't

880
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: think people are angry at her. I don't think I

881
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: thought people just thought it was kind of crazy in bonkers.

882
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: It's not.

883
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: There are some other things where people get caught and

884
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: it goes viral and it's really kind of character destroying

885
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: for them, and that can be I don't have real ramifications,

886
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: but not only that, because she's good looking, surprisingly, you know,

887
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 2: noticeably good looking. I think everyone you know has has

888
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: picked up on this. I think this is now going

889
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: to be something that she actually capitalizes on financially. We

890
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: talked about this off air. There is nothing comparable in

891
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: terms of advantages in life. Everybody wants to talk about

892
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 2: white privilege. Everybody wants to talk about all these different privileges.

893
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: There is nothing remotely close to hot girl privilege. If

894
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 2: you are a good looking woman, you can get away

895
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: with basically anything, and that this everybody. I don't know

896
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 2: what percentage of our audience would have seen this video

897
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: or heard it disgusted. I think the younger you are, certainly,

898
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: the more likely you are to have seen this video

899
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: is everywhere. If it's not a good looking woman, no

900
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: one ever sees this video because it is a little

901
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 2: bit creepy, Like she's standing there saying, somebody's in the

902
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: back of the plane and they're not real, and this

903
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: plane's gonna crash and I've got to get off. The

904
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: reason I was saying it was like Bride'smaids is I

905
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 2: think it's Bride'smaids, the movie where the girl takes ambient

906
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: and she starts to have hallucinations and isn't making any

907
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: sense on the Bachelorette. That's what it seemed like to me.

908
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: If you change this out and it's a two hundred

909
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: and fifty pound guy, yes, saying the exact same thing,

910
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: everyone on that plane, first of all, would not be amused.

911
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: They would be terrified, and people would be like wondering,

912
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: you know, they'd be thinking much more about was there

913
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: some kind of a threat on this plane? Was there

914
00:51:55,120 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: a safety issue? But because she is noticeable, very pretty,

915
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: it turned into like a funny meme and everyone was

916
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: sort of, oh, you know whatever, and making jokes about it.

917
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: To your point, she's gonna make a lot of money off. Yes,

918
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: she's famous.

919
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: Now, even if it's infamy, if you are beautiful as

920
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: a woman, infamy is highly monetizable.

921
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: Lots of women in the Instagram social media universe that

922
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 3: are infamous, but they are famous and they can make

923
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: a lot of money. And there is no male equivalent

924
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 3: to this. No, and uh, and so anyway, wis.

925
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: Kyne's thing like we talked about that. We never brought

926
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: that up on the show.

927
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,479
Speaker 2: You know, there's all this talk about pay inequality, and uh,

928
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: this comes up in the context of sports, so it's

929
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: near and dear to Clay's hard. It comes up in

930
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: the context of feminism, so obviously it gets me fired

931
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: up because you know, feminists want to ruin America. But

932
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: when you look at modeling, yes, it is a profession

933
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 2: where a top male model, which there still are apparently

934
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

935
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: You know, I can landers of the world.

936
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: I am being honest, and that I cannot name a

937
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 2: top I can name the top female models because everybody

938
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 2: can just Albunching and you know Naomi Campbell, and maybe

939
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: I'm a little in terms of might might be a

940
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: little bit years past, but you get what I'm saying.

941
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: We all know the supermodel names. The pay is like

942
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: fifty or one hundred to one in terms of what

943
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: the top female models make versus it's not even close.

944
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: So you do see that your initial point female beauty

945
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: in our society, and really in all societies, but particularly

946
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: in this day and age, man is in an advantage.

947
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: It changes the game with a whole whole range of ways.

948
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: It's the single most valuable currency in terms sometimes literally currency,

949
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 3: in all of human life. I think because you don't

950
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: have to. You can just cash in on it.

951
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: And it is.

952
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: It is wild to think because you never hear when

953
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: people are attacking white privilege or anything else. There's never

954
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: a beauty privilege attack. And and and I suspect it's uh,

955
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: it's because of a situation like this, where you look

956
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: at modeling. The US women's soccer team argued, Oh, we

957
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 3: should be making as much as the US men's soccer team. Okay,

958
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: and they now get that money, and now they're equally

959
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 3: as unsuccessful as the US men thanks to the fact

960
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: that they choked against Sweden. But no one ever says

961
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 3: that male models are underpaid. And to your point, women

962
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 3: are making fifty and one hundred times as much as

963
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 3: they are because female beauty, beauty is far more valuable

964
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 3: than male beauty. I'll tell you this again.

965
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: If that is a guy, yoli that that guy is

966
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: not real and he's screaming back the plane. There is

967
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 2: not a single woman in this audience. I don't care

968
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: what the guy looks like. Who would be like, yeah,

969
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'd go out with that guy. Yeah,

970
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: like he's you know, maybe he had a rough day,

971
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: you know, maybe he was the number of single guys

972
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 2: who would go.

973
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: Out I mean right after this, like.

974
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: In the airplane terminal and have just witnessed the Tiffany

975
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: Gomas meltdown, the number of single guys would be like,

976
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: I'd give her a shot, I go out with her

977
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: on a date.

978
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 3: Ninety I can't think, sir. It's the great I'm sure

979
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: you've seen. And I wonder how many of our audience

980
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: have the Hot crazy matrix? You know, the guy the

981
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: professor standing in front of the board who was analyzing

982
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 3: women for hot and crazy and like, it's a really

983
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 3: really funny graphic that many women are looking at and

984
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 3: they'll be like, yeah, I got to see that too.

985
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: Yep.

986
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 3: Remember Seinfeld back in the day had that the girlfriend

987
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: and it was a great comedic episode. But it was

988
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: like she could get anything because she was so good looking.

989
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: So you get pulled over for speeding, she gets out

990
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 3: of the ticket, she wants to go see a movie.

991
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 3: They say, oh, we're sold out of the movie tickets

992
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 3: to everybody, and then the pretty girl walks up. How

993
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 3: many times have you buck been standing outside of a

994
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: place that a lot of people want to get in,

995
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: and girls good looking girls walk right up and they

996
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 3: look don't stand in line at all.

997
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna name names, but it's true on the left.

998
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: It's true on the right in politics as well, in

999
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: terms of elected officials.

1000
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: If you were a woman who is.

1001
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: Really good looking, you are way more famous and influential

1002
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: in politics in general. As a rule, then you know

1003
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: you would be if you were a guy named Bob,

1004
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: who's you know, bald Aoc.

1005
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 3: AOC's entire career is owed to her being attractive. If

1006
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: she were, I'm like, I won't say it. Clay's like,

1007
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: I'll say it. No. If Aoc were a sixty five

1008
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 3: year old dude, exact same political perspective, exact same arguments,

1009
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,479
Speaker 3: every single opinion is the exact same, no one would

1010
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 3: have ever heard of that guy.

1011
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And it's interesting too.

1012
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: This is also an area where no matter what society tries,

1013
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 2: and they've tried a lot these days to be like, oh,

1014
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: we're changing the beauty standards, there's a lot of indicators

1015
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: to show you that people that doesn't work. That doesn't work,

1016
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 2: there's certain aesthetics that are in play regardless. Anyway, Tiffany

1017
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: Goma is gonna be very famous she apologized, she's the

1018
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: plain lady.

1019
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: We talked to it.

1020
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll close us out with some snow White talk.

1021
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: Actually here in a second, so we wanted to get

1022
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 2: into this. It's an old clip, but it's now making

1023
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: the rounds again about the new snow White movie. Will

1024
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: it be the biggest bomb movie? Not the bomb, but

1025
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: a bomb that Disney has ever made.

1026
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 1: We shall see.

1027
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,280
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