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Speaker 1: rigid Welcome to patri Get's Unfiltered. She wanted to we

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Speaker 1: I'm annoyed about Adam chapter Just what was how many

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Speaker 1: shows doing a lot better today without Fred dragging us downs.

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Speaker 1: Mike is like a little frazzle tailor. We're gonna, we're gonna,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go outside. But why don't we do that

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Speaker 1: to talk to us Paul. Hopefully you guys can get

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Speaker 1: this is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here at Gilette Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and uh, locally, we're waiting for some snow right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's weird. Yeah, the middle of the state is getting

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Speaker 1: bombed and we're just raining here. Yeah, but supposed to

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Speaker 1: turn at some point, so that's what we're waiting for. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: getting ready for that. Um, but we're also waiting for good.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we're waiting for the Patriots Day moves here

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Speaker 1: and now. As is usually the case except for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, it's Patriots fans saying, what are

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Speaker 1: they doing? We're getting passed by uh. And that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing from a lot of Patriots fans today. The

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Speaker 1: latest um shoot a fall was Mobby Meyers going to

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Speaker 1: the Raiders for I think a lot less than we thought,

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Speaker 1: right that he would get. But I thought twelve, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like the Millennium Falcon. I thought I thought a

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Speaker 1: little less. Yeah, I agree with you, Freddie, Mike Reese

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Speaker 1: I saw Mike Reese's report. I didn't see him getting that,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a complicated one. And I think we

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Speaker 1: all knew going into this offseason that this would be

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Speaker 1: a hard decision because, on one hand, you have an

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Speaker 1: that's hard to resign yourself for Why can't we sign

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Speaker 1: a player like that and retain a player like that?

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Speaker 1: That's what we're looking for, guys that are leaders that

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Speaker 1: you know, have proven to do it no matter who

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Speaker 1: of acknowledge that if they really want to get to

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Speaker 1: re upping Jacoby for three more years is gonna is

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Speaker 1: going to hurt them? Though? What do you mean? Like,

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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what's going to happen there. Yep.

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Speaker 1: it it's like kind of like what you said Fred

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Speaker 1: on that, that's fine. What's what's what's wrong with getting

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Speaker 1: and like Paul said, he's like our number three receiver.

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Speaker 1: we just continue to pass that torch, which is fine.

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Speaker 1: Zay Flowers his name in the conversation. Those guys have

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Speaker 1: not sure it'll it'd be that much of a I

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Speaker 1: think they're a playoff team with Aaron Rodgers. I don't

423
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Speaker 1: think it's very proba that brief allback. I don't think

424
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: you can understate that too. With that, you didn't the

425
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 1: Patriots didn't. That Jets team last year with that guy

426
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: right ball too. So I think you could make an

427
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: argument that if Mike White played the two games, the

428
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 1: Jets would have won at least one. Miami Dolphin's own

429
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 1: like White. That's how you know to Fred's point. Now,

430
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: defense to me is very fickle. They had a great

431
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 1: defense last year. It doesn't mean they're gonna have a

432
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: great win this year. Sometimes those things, it's true, those

433
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 1: things can switch in a hurry and you could lose pieces.

434
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 1: I think quinnin Williams is still a big ticket item, right,

435
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: that's a big part of their defense. Oh yeah he's

436
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: not signed, Right, Yeah he's signed. Oh he did sign.

437
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: Yeah Quinn and Williams. I thought he wasn't. Yeah, no

438
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: he's not free agent. Oh is that two years out? Yeah?

439
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 1: Never mind, then now that's a big never mind. Yeah.

440
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: The Patriots have they have such a clear way to

441
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: achieve what they need to achieve. But what is our

442
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: confidence level that they're actually gonna do it? I think

443
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: that's like the biggest thing that just listening to everybody

444
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: else and like and just trying to rack my head

445
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: around what could the plan be? Is you have thirty

446
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space, which means you have plenty

447
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: of cap space to do whatever you want. You have

448
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: the fourteenth pick, you have some assets in the draft,

449
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: you have needs, But do you have confidence in that

450
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: they are actually going to pull off a big move

451
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 1: to to fill it? Like, and I'm talking mostly about

452
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 1: a wide receiver or a playmaker of some sort, But

453
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: do you have any faith whatsoever in this team that

454
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: they would make that trade, that they would trade for

455
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, that they would trade for Jerry Judy, that

456
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: they'd give up real assets and real draft capital slash

457
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: cap space to actually go out there and fix this

458
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: once and for all. And I just I have zero

459
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: confidence in that. I can't like convince myself that they're

460
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: going to do something like that. Real talk, you look

461
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: at how the last two years went, the decisions that

462
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: were made. I don't I mean, I I'm with you,

463
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of confidence I still have

464
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 1: a part of me that says, I think that they

465
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: have something in the works, because you can't just go

466
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: into the season without doing anything, So don't do really,

467
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: but I just don't think it. Is it gonna be

468
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: big enough something. You also just look at the situation

469
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: with the quarterback, and the one thing that you can

470
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: say about Mac Jones, it's a fact, is that he's

471
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: on a rookie contract. That's the one fact that you

472
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: have about Mac Jones that he's on a rookie contract

473
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: two years, two more years. And everybody around the league

474
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: when they have a quarterback on a rookie contract, they spend, spend, spend, spend, spend,

475
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: and they maximize that window of having a cheap starting quarterback.

476
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: Right what are we doing. We're not doing that. We're

477
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: not making the A. J. Brown trade right now. We're

478
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: not making the Tyree Killed trade or the Stefon Diggs trade,

479
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: or I can just go right down the line. It's

480
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: the problem though, not the money, and it's the assets.

481
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: It's not willing to give up those draft picks. I

482
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: don't know if it's that or like I feel like

483
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: they feel like they're coaching is so superb that they

484
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: don't need to go out there and get that type

485
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: of guy. But, like I've said all offseason long, I

486
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: don't want you to get an off brand wide receiver

487
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: and think you can coach him up to be great.

488
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: I want you to go out and get one that's

489
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: already great, that can learn the system and it really helps.

490
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 1: I saw somebody on Twitter saying they're still running this

491
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 1: team like they have Tom Brady? Yeah, is there any

492
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: validity to that thought? I don't know. I think they're

493
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: still running the team like the way they run the team,

494
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 1: whether or not that is, you know that, like they

495
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: think they have Tom Brady or not. I mean, I

496
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: think that's the better way to put it, because I

497
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: don't think they ran it like that because of Tom Brady.

498
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: That's the way they want to run it. It worked

499
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: because of Tom Brady, and I don't know if they

500
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: know that, Okay, And I think to Evans point, as

501
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 1: he keeps saying, if you keep doing the same thing

502
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: over and over again, expecting the same expecting like better results,

503
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: that's insane. And I think that just because it worked

504
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady, it's not working now. Therefore you need

505
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: to change it. And that starts by going on and

506
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: getting someone big at the wide receiver position. Yes, I

507
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 1: just they got the top available free agents right now.

508
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: And I mean, I gotta be honest, coming into this

509
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: free agency period, I was not blown away with free agency.

510
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: I didn't think that the team was going to close

511
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: the gap on the bills in free agency. You know

512
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: that said, it's just it's it's it's definitely a little

513
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: disappointing at this point. But I just still see it

514
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: as the draft and I see that as the only

515
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: real way back to what it was. And they certainly

516
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: need to fill some pieces in free agency right now.

517
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just and that's the other aspects

518
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: of is letting Jacobe leave. And you know, I saw

519
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: a thing that if they only have at their last

520
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: year's draft class, that's the only guys that are signed

521
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five. So this is you know, the

522
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: next two years are basically your team and then it's

523
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: it's just kind of a blank slap beyond that. And

524
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: I think I'm feeling that right now, especially when a

525
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: player that you internally develop, you know, got leaves again.

526
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: It's just it's just hard, you wonder, what are we

527
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: what are we doing. Are we building towards something long term?

528
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean, now Devin's gone, we have to, you know,

529
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: find some new leadership in that regard as well. So

530
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: I think as we sit here on Tuesday, a free

531
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: agency just kind of I just kind of feel like

532
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: we're floating with no real direction, and I'm waiting for

533
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: a move to happen that says this is where we're going,

534
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: this is what we're going to do, you know, and

535
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be this humongous, you know, a

536
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: life altering thing. But I think that there are still

537
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: players out there, even in the mid range of that

538
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: that will at least signal to you, hey, we get it,

539
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: we know where we need to get better, and you know,

540
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: we do have a plan to do it. And it's

541
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: just hard here day two of the tampering period that

542
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, they haven't really they haven't done any things.

543
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: You know how I like to worry about things all

544
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: the time. What you worried me last week, Fred, when

545
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: we had a conversation on Tuesday about wide receivers and

546
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: what kind of wide receivers? You think Bill doesn't like

547
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 1: the whole Diva thing. I think there's something philosophically about that.

548
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: So that is like I can be, I'm lockstep with

549
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: the panel here on Jacoby Myers. I think they need

550
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: bet needed better. As much as I love Jacoby Myers,

551
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: I think they needed better. I don't have any faith

552
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: that they're going to get better because better is the diva.

553
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because A J. Brown. You know, they play hard,

554
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, but they're the kind of wide receivers a lot. Yeah,

555
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: they're mercurial Juju. Even looking at Juju, I mean he's

556
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: he's a different he's Jacoby Myers. I take Juju in

557
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: a heartbea because I think he plays hard too, but

558
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: that's not that's a lot of real move He's the

559
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: same as Jacoby Myers. But if you can get one

560
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: of those studs, I'm all for it. I just don't

561
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: think they will because I think they You worry me

562
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: about that like that, that whole mentality. I think that

563
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: Bill don't at it that way. I don't. I don't

564
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: want to get this guy because you know, he don't

565
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 1: look at it. He's not worth the resources, as you said, right,

566
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: he's not worth the first round pick. Yeah they are,

567
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: they are worth that, but you don't like it because

568
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: that's not the style that you like. That Like you

569
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: worried me, you got me a whole new can of worry. Now,

570
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts ahead, Tamara? Well, I guess what is?

571
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: What are everyone's thoughts on ob J? I understanding that

572
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: he had to work out where he invited fifteen or

573
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: so teams to go watch. What are your thoughts? I'm

574
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: gonna play the role of you know, um the old

575
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: fart and say, you know, he just I just I

576
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: just can't depend on him mentally, you know, like what

577
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: you're gonna wake up today? What's what's gonna be your

578
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: attitude today? Ob J? You know, I worry about his

579
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: physical I'm not as Yeah, and like why is he

580
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: you know, like he hasn't really done anything for years?

581
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: You know, I think everybody forgets the Rams. He wasn't.

582
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: He came on the Rams and he was great and

583
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: he and he helped them that year absolutely, but then

584
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: he was hurt for the town Al and the super Bowl. Now,

585
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: but I just gonna kill him for that. That's a mentality.

586
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna kill him, but I just I don't

587
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm getting with him. I think at one time.

588
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what bel Yeah, that's why I don't

589
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: know what. I mean. He was probably one of the

590
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: most talented receivers in the league at one time. And

591
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: I also worry that he didn't sign last year, like

592
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: about his knee. He's been out. I think that's because

593
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: of his knee. Yeah, that no one signed him. The

594
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: Patriots did tender Miles Bryant, So Miles Bryant got first

595
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: right at first refusal tender. That's the right two point

596
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: six million for one year, yeah from Reese. That to me,

597
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't mean to sound like that. That

598
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: to me is the right move. Yeah, I hate I mean,

599
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: I I don't mean to sound like that. One. I

600
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: mean I feel like the right move would have tried

601
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: to get that down it maybe assigned him like a

602
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: two year for like half that month, you know, like

603
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: I don't want any of that kind of like that

604
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: still seems like a lot. But I mean, you got

605
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones, like we were talking about upstairs, Like, I mean,

606
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: you've got a guy that you seem like you drafted

607
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: for that role. I mean, I know safeties now a

608
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: little bit like all right, what are we gonna do?

609
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: But I just think that the difference between a guy

610
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: who's played safety like Mills or him, you know, it's

611
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: not the same as being the full time back end

612
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: free safety guy. I just I don't know. I mean,

613
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: I know, you know we were talking about Jesse Bates

614
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: and he went to Atlanta. I want to talk about

615
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: that a little bit because I think there's that's the

616
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: one contract I would have done. So let's let's Jesse Bates, right,

617
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: so we can say. I'm not really upset, it's just

618
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: the tampering period. Like the Patriots did a lot of bookkeeping.

619
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: Why why do we spend the beginning part of the

620
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: legal tampering period resigning our guys that we could have

621
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: resigned two weeks ago. So just so fans know, all

622
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: of the Patriots moves thus far could have been made

623
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: whenever they wanted. Yeah, they didn't need to wait till

624
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: now to sign these guys. They were their own free agents.

625
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: They had exclusive negotiating wretch. They hadn't become free agency yet.

626
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: They would they wouldn't have until tomorrow, so they could

627
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: have gotten the deal done with James Ferns. They could

628
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: have gotten the deal done with Jonathan Jones, whenever is

629
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: there any advantage to wait? Okay, So here's what I'm saying,

630
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: what the player wants to see, what's out there. Here's

631
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: what I worry about it. Do I know that this

632
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: has happened. I don't, But this is what I worry about,

633
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: is Jesse Bates. Mike Reece on Sunday had an item

634
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: on Jesse Bates. I tell you all the time that

635
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: I do not take lightly when Mike rees writes things,

636
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: because I don't think he's in the rumor mongering business.

637
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: He's as professional as they come. So I think for

638
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: him to write that either meant he on his own

639
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: was coming up with a really plausible scenario, or more likely,

640
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: he was doing that and running that by somebody. Yeah,

641
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: I think there was a legitimate interest in Jesse Bates

642
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: to replace Devin mccordy, which I think we all would

643
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: have been happy with younger version. Right, you are resigning

644
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones and Carl Davis, Ray Kwan McMillan. You know,

645
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: on Monday now or over the weekend when when I

646
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: think Atlanta was it was Atlanta, right, is talking to

647
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates now. It could very possibly be that Bill

648
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: is talking to Jesse Bates. So whoever is talking to

649
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates mac grow and they come to the realization,

650
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: you know what Evan looks like, looks like the Falcons

651
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: are going to go to a place that we're not

652
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: going to be able to go. We gotta make sure

653
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: we talk. We gotta make sure we got to get

654
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones resigned, because I think Jones's versatility it puts

655
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: him and Jalen Mills in a small handful of guys

656
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: that might be able to replace Devin mccordy. So they

657
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: may have looked at Jonathan Jones last minute and said,

658
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be able to get Bates. We gotta

659
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: make sure we get John Jones back. Maybe I don't know,

660
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: but I don't like I hate the whole I don't

661
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: like that if that's the way to move Jalen Mills

662
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: to see, like, can we just get a safety way?

663
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: Can we just we just set Yeah, And he's but

664
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: he's not a center fielder. He's not a free safety.

665
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: And if you're going to run the system the same

666
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: way that you run the system with a lot of

667
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: single high a lot of man coverage, you need a

668
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: center fielder and Jesse Bates is a guy that was

669
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: franchise tagged initially by Cincinnati, and now they're coming the

670
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: bills coming due on their on their top guys, Burrow

671
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 1: Chase te Higgins, so they're about to shell out a

672
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: ton of money to retain the top of their roster,

673
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: and he was a collateral damage of basically them prioritizing

674
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: other guys over him. So that's a player that has

675
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: as a Pro Bowl, all Pro caliber talent, you know,

676
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: he's somebody that's an impact player in the back end,

677
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: and four for sixty four with thirty million in cap space,

678
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: he couldn't do that. Now, he was out to dinner

679
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: with like all of Atlanta like a couple of weeks ago.

680
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: Aj Terrell and all those guys took him out. So

681
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: maybe he had his eyes on the Falcons the whole way.

682
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: And it was Peter Lyders had written that something along

683
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: the lines of Jesse Bates in Atlanta, you know, in

684
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: his Monday Morning Football in America whatever it's called. And yeah,

685
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: that's why I say, like maybe maybe the Patriots looked

686
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: at and said, you know what, we're not going to

687
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: get this guy Shrine Bowl. Screwed us up. That took

688
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: all our time. But that's just the one guy that

689
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: I would look at in the you have a future

690
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: A block that signed yesterday that I really feel like

691
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: I would have done that contract in a heartbeat, like

692
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: Jeremaine Edmonds for four for seventy two, Mike McGlinchey for

693
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: five for ninety, Like, I'm totally fine that they they

694
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: passed on guys like that, But Jesse Bates was right

695
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: there no scheme fit. Yeah, oh, I would have loved

696
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: tremade Edmunds just a lot. I wasn't making fun of

697
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: you that I've read that. I read that in a

698
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: lot of places. Yes, wait, someone said he's on a

699
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: scheme fit to talent. That's ridiculous, But I would have

700
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: four for seventy two for a middle linebacker. Is a

701
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: lot of money. But that's like, I agree, it is

702
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: a lot of money. But that's where it's going. Like

703
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: what did Roquan Smith just resigned for eighteen million a year? Yeah,

704
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: it's about the same money. Like that's what these like.

705
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: You can sit there and say that's too rich for

706
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: my blood, and maybe you're not wrong. That's great, that's

707
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: a difference maker. That's great. You're right, those guys can

708
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: make it too much money, but you don't have the players.

709
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: I want to go back though, something um Evan kind

710
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: of threw out there. We were talking about the wide

711
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: receiver diva and all that stuff, and Evan, you said,

712
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: that's not how they're thinking. Yeah, why do you say that,

713
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: because that's not how they operate. They the only time

714
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 1: that they've ever operated like that is with Randy Moss.

715
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: The only time other than that, I truly believe that

716
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: they feel like they would rather build out depth and

717
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: have a strong one through five like they've had over

718
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, distribute to football all that

719
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and they don't see the value in

720
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: that number one. I agree, though I thought you were

721
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: going in another direction. Yeah, I agree with that that

722
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that they see the value the way

723
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: that other teams do. But I would push back on

724
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: that strongly just because of the way that the league

725
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: has gone. The league has has trended so far towards

726
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 1: those guys being I mean, there's a lot of well

727
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: I have stuff out there, and I also think it

728
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: sounds like a broken record, but I think everything changes

729
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: once Tom Brady left. You know I think that, but

730
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: even with Tom Brady, what was the best offense. But

731
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: I think when Brady was here, I'm not sure, I'm

732
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: and I have no knowledge of this, but I wouldn't

733
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: be surprised if there was something in Brady's contract that said,

734
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: I have to be the highest paid player on the team,

735
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: you know, and at any moment, if you bring in

736
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: a top tier receiver at that moment, for a period

737
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: of time, he could be making more than Brady. I

738
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: think the pecking order of who makes what on the

739
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: team was always important to Belichick, you know that, that

740
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: type of you know, order in the locker room. I

741
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: think he was very cognizant of that and like certain

742
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: players can't make more than other players. Well, but it's

743
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: interesting now because you don't really have a pecking order,

744
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: like you don't really know. I think it all everybody's

745
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: just kind of like a free for all, and you

746
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: know they're and without by without Brady and with a

747
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: quarterback who's on a rookie contract. I think anything goes

748
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and I just I think a lot

749
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: of what we're talking about here is like the theme

750
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: of same old Patriots doing things the way they want

751
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: to do it, and it's like, at what point, you've

752
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs two out of the last three years,

753
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: you can't really beat any good teams anymore. At what

754
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: point do you realize, like, hey, maybe we should change

755
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: things up a little bit. I mean, in twenty twenty

756
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: one the free agency class, I think that's what we

757
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: all kind of took the signal and it was absolutely necessary.

758
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: Well because of the draft, they missed it him, But

759
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: what are we doing now? I find comfort in mac

760
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: Roe's words where he says these top receivers coming a premium,

761
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: there's no more does his boss saying yeah, but at

762
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: least there's someone in the room with that mindset, there's

763
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: no more. Well, you know, value is the third round

764
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: and you know, Bob, you know there's no There was

765
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: no talk of value there. You know, value means let's

766
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: get guys on a deal, you know. But he came

767
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: right out and said, if you want a top receiver,

768
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: it comes at a premium. I think those were his

769
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: exact where it was. And that's why I think what

770
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: where I get frustrated is because so you have the

771
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: director of player person Alex sees it, the rest of

772
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: the league sees it, but does the boss see it right? Like,

773
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day that he's the

774
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: most important one. And if have you noticed there's a

775
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: trend developing with Evan. Yeah, but over the last month

776
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: or so, he's nudging but head coach. But I will

777
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: say that in the past on this team, I don't

778
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: care if Nick Assario or you know, Scott Pioli, they

779
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that unless they knew that the boss agreed

780
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: with that. I'm sorry, I just I'm not nudging him

781
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: to the retirement home. I'm just teasing. But I do

782
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: think a lot of if this is what we're doing,

783
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of the ways that he

784
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: thinks his archaic, I do. I think I think it's

785
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to sell them. I think mac

786
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: I write with Evan on this. I think mac Row

787
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: was trying to sell Bill Belichick on that notion last

788
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: year with a lot of those comments. And I don't

789
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: think he's necessarily I think he did it. I think

790
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: he said, Okay, yeah, we'll try so you're right, we

791
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: need to get faster, And I would think he looks

792
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: at and said, yeah, what what what what that? What?

793
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: That speed? Do for Samara, what what do do you have?

794
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: My responses because I think it would what Macro and

795
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: Wolves response would be, how did you use the speed?

796
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: I know when we can go back and because but

797
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: I with Evan's premise, I think that there has been

798
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: a reluctance on Bill to sort of venture away from

799
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety one draft profile in Cleveland that Daniel

800
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Is it Danny Jeremiah or one of those guys

801
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: always always puts on Twitter like players have changed, players, styles,

802
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: players sizes, players ability has changed over the So let

803
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. I know this is a

804
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: little sensitive, but you know there was that famous quote

805
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: from Bill when asked about from Karen Garigi and how

806
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: he felt about all the free agency free and how

807
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: that worked out and all that money that they spent.

808
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: Bill was very quick to point out that over the

809
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: last three years the Patriots were number twenty seven or

810
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: eight in cash spending. Did he do that to say, wow,

811
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: we did that without spending a lot of money, or

812
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: did he do that to say, no, we need to

813
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: spend more money. I think the former, I think to

814
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: tell you how they've been able to do it without

815
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: doing all that that's why we do it. I disagree.

816
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he's they have the pushing. I don't

817
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: think he's pushing to spend more money. If they wanted

818
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: to spend money this offseason, they could have spent money.

819
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 1: Like they have the cap space, they have the wiggle

820
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: room to figure it out with the books. It's not

821
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: about that, Like it's not about the cap. No, I'm

822
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: not saying it is about the cap. I just think

823
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: that it's about how they want to build a team.

824
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: I think it's how they want to builds, how build

825
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: caves that you do it? Can we you know? And

826
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: I know we have a lot of people holding on

827
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: and I want to get to you in a minute,

828
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: but I just want to stop the conversation right here

829
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: and clear up something because you know, I listened to

830
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: a lot of Paul shows and I get I hear

831
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: the question ask from callers, and none of the hosts

832
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: really give a good answer. What's the difference between the

833
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: cap and cash spending? What do you mean there's there's

834
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: there's a difference between what your cap is in your

835
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: cash outlay. You like you're asking, but I like someone

836
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: can give a fifty million dollars signing bonus. But if

837
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: it's over a six year contract, you could spread out

838
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: on the cap. But it's still fifty million, and you're

839
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: still you're spending. And every dollar that much on the cap,

840
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: that's every dollar eventually comes due. Every every dollar that's

841
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: the cap every you're right, and that's why the cap

842
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: is not crap. Every dollar crap, but every dollar eventually,

843
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: every eventually what cap record exists, it exists. It's not crap.

844
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: It can be manipulated. It does force you to make decisions. However,

845
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: cash spending is different than oh, we have thirty million

846
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: dollars under the cap or whatever. Cash spending is the

847
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: money that an owner actually has to take out of

848
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: a bank account and give a guy on a day,

849
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: and not the cap. That's why that's the cap is meaningless.

850
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: That's right. And that's the difference when people say, well,

851
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: they got all this money into the cap or they're

852
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: they're spending to the cap, which could be true. But

853
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: cash outlay is different than what the cap is. It's different.

854
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: You can you can literally spend three times as much

855
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: as the cap in a given year, like cash given out,

856
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: but then that cash is spread out amortize over the

857
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: life of many UH contracts. But for for a lot

858
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: of owners, you know, for a lot of owners, that's

859
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: like a you know, you know, hundreds of millions of

860
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: dollars of cash that has to be taken out of

861
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: a bank account and given to players on a day.

862
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it was last week, Like last week is

863
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: the official cap is crap week? Like every other second

864
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: it's they just restructured these three guys like that, like

865
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: and I mean, I think that the problem with the

866
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: cap is crap saying is that just implying like it's

867
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: completely meaningless, which it kind of is, but like, but

868
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: there still are like you gotta do some things. Now,

869
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: you gotta move some guys. You got some more money.

870
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: And when you do those things, it does friends, right,

871
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: it does put it off, and at some point you

872
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: have to do it. It's just so easy to get around.

873
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: It was every other tweet last week. It's every other

874
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: that's why, just like Devin mccordy, like we just years

875
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: and how those void years are gonna be on the cap?

876
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: That's okay, And that was the advantage of having Tom Brady.

877
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: It's not that Tom Brady took much less than other quarterbacks.

878
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: It's he was always willing to allow them to use

879
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: his contract a sort of like a mortgage and refinance it.

880
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: And whenever they did that, he got a big lump

881
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: payment at that time. That was but it didn't hurt

882
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: that year's cap, you know, it was spread out over.

883
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: I also just think that, and he was a willing

884
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: partner and all that. I also just think with the cap.

885
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: I think the part where I come in with the

886
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: caps crap is because the bill never actually comes due.

887
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: Like there's never a time where the NFL says to

888
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: a team, hey, like you you gotta put all like

889
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: over the cap, can't play the year. If you don't

890
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: pay us tomorrow, then we're gonna send you to collection.

891
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: Right like that That doesn't actually ever happen. So you

892
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: can just keep pushing money into into But there is

893
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: a day every year where every team has to be

894
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: under the camp, right, But you can be under the

895
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: cap seventeen different ways, that's right, that's right. But but

896
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: and and when that you know, prior to that day,

897
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: you just make decisions to make sure that you're under

898
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: the cap. And like you said, Evan pushing money ahead,

899
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: but you've got to have the players that are willing

900
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: to do that, and you know there's no player not

901
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: willing to do that because you get it all upset

902
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: benefit the players, right, you get that money right then

903
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: and there. I'm not saying that you should run things

904
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: like the Saints do, because I I know that the

905
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: Saints have a method to their madness. But that is

906
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: not a sustainable model in my mind. But there's a

907
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: difference between all right, let's not get silly about the

908
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: cap like the Saints have, and we can push the

909
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: envelope like the Eagles do, for example, or the Rams. Yeah,

910
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Rams. You know, those two teams

911
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: are always in the top five in real cash spending

912
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: because they their owners just pay their way out of

913
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: cap chill. Every single offseason. They just say they kind

914
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: of check to the you know, the guys that would

915
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: the front office says, oh, these are the three guys

916
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: that we'd like to restructure because we can curle hear

917
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: the most space this way, or we trust it this way,

918
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: and you do that and you can just keep doing

919
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: that every single year and it never comes due. It

920
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: never hits a point where you're like tomorrow, the league

921
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: is like, oh, you owe us two hundred million dollars

922
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: or else like that that never happened. Les COVID hits

923
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: Washington and Dallas. No, no, it's an uncapped here. Oh

924
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: but you guys exceeded the cap. But it's an uncapp here. No. No,

925
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna still pay us some some draft picks. All right,

926
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: five five pass five hundred is the ACE ticket. Hut

927
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: Line web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address.

928
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: Let's get to the phones. See what you have to say.

929
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: Patty's an agaham, what's up? Patty? Hey everyone? How are

930
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: you today? Good? All right, Well, I'm hoping to offer

931
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: up a little bit of levity on just a couple

932
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: things on John hu Smith. At some point last year,

933
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: when I was watching The Guy play, I felt like

934
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: Susan and Seinfeld telling George about Um Cramer not going

935
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: to the wedding, like he'll he'll follow or something do

936
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: something wrong, It'll he'll ruin everything, you know, Um, And

937
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm in a chat with t Christian Melbourne

938
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: and Chester right, And at some point yesterday I wrote,

939
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: I really hope that this isn't isn't their big splash

940
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: of the off season. And Christian had the best response

941
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: three words response, please God No. I got a good

942
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: laugh out of it. Um And just as far as

943
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: like the receivers go, I know, like the the big

944
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: splash names are guys like O'Dell's and DeAndre Hopkins, and

945
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm hoping they don't go that route. I do want

946
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: to see a younger guy. I want to see them

947
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: trying to get a guy like Judy or possibly even

948
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: Bateman in here, because to me, I mean, you never

949
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: know what Like you sent Paul with Odell, you don't

950
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna fall in and twist his knee

951
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: and and that's it. And DeAndre you don't know if

952
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: he gets popped again that he's done for the year

953
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: square one. You know, Yeah, I mean I could be

954
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: persuaded with a guy like Bateman. Not as my plan.

955
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't want that to be the plan as a

956
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: flyer like first round talent hasn't completely worked out in Baltimore,

957
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: suffered through some injuries. But maybe you're buying low. That's

958
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: like an old school Belichick move, buying low on a guy,

959
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: and you know, some of those work out. But I

960
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: don't want to say, hey, I don't have to Worrybou anything.

961
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: I got Rashod Bateman to be my number one. Here

962
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: we go, Max, here you go. It's younger, right, Like

963
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: everybody would would rather trade for the younger player. It's

964
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: just what's available and what's feasible. I it'd all rather

965
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy and T. Higgins over DeAndre Hopkins. But that

966
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that Jerry Judy and T. Higgins are available.

967
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: So even it seems like Judy's available based on the repeat,

968
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: it's like, even with any of those guys, I still

969
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: want one of those day one, day two receivers in

970
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: this group, you know, I mean probably Day two. But like,

971
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: don't you remember so many years ago when they traded

972
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: they drafted Nikiel then they traded the two forsw and

973
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: he came out after the draft and said, well, we

974
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: already invested the first in the second round picking receivers,

975
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: so that's why we didn't draft other other moves. I

976
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: had forgot about the Mohammed Sinou for a second rounder,

977
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: thank you. That was the twenty twenty draft. That was desperation.

978
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: She always telling me a little bit of one of

979
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: your old year old friends, Philip to a set oh

980
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: I know, some people have been telling me Patriots have

981
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: been talking to philter Set that that was the twenty

982
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: twenty draft when they didn't draft a receiver at all.

983
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't think, or maybe it was it. Trey Nixon

984
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 1: was the the seventh round pick. Was at the Ernie

985
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: year and they drafted Trey Nixon in the seventh round,

986
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 1: and everybody's looking around, like, how do you not draft

987
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: a receiver before the seventh round? And he said, well,

988
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, last year we used a first on the

989
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: Keel and we used a second in a trade for Sino,

990
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: so we did Todd's in North Carolina. What's up Todd?

991
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: So I'm a little sad that we lost to Kobe,

992
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: but I realized that, you know, we need a better

993
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: slot than I think. It didn't when Bill O'Brien was here.

994
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: Didn't we have Welker. Wasn't that Welker's prime time when

995
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: Phil Bill O'Brien was her coach? Yes, so maybe we

996
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: need tobody that's in that slot. They can you know,

997
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: get open, sneak and have that sneaky quickness, maybe break

998
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: a play here and there, and then that'll make our

999
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: outside guys a little bit better because from the pressure

1000
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: off of them. So maybe that's kind of what we

1001
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: should be looking for. But I think your conversation has

1002
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: been seriously interesting because I can't tell if it's okay

1003
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: the owner won't spend the cash or Bill doesn't want

1004
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: to invest in player. It's very It's hard because you

1005
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 1: guys seem to be arguing almost both points. You're bringing

1006
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: up this this like they've only spent cash like this

1007
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: they've only been we're bringing up all the angles, I mean,

1008
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: because we don't know either, you know. Yeah, Yeah, it's

1009
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: it's a tough one because you know, if it's if

1010
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: it goes all the way, if it's just the coach,

1011
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: well then maybe he's maybe he's done. But what if

1012
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: it goes if it's right up to the craft and

1013
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: they say, like, look, we're not out laying cash for this,

1014
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: then what do you do as Bill? Then you can't

1015
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: I kind of find that accountable. Yeah, I kind of

1016
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: find that surprising. I mean, even if listen, even if

1017
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: it requires taken bank loan, what's more important not spending

1018
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: the cash for getting the Patriots back to relevancy. I

1019
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: think the crash would say we've got to do the

1020
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: latter because that's eventually how you make your money is

1021
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: you have a team that's annually competitive and the fans

1022
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: are excited about and the media talks about, and you're

1023
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and you know that's that's your investment,

1024
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: that's your payoff. They built it goes back to what

1025
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: Paul said. They built an entire dynasty off of value

1026
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: and not overpaying their own guys. And they had and

1027
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: then it felt like it worked for twenty years, because oh,

1028
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: what a great system. What if it turns out that

1029
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: it only worked because you had Tom Brady, right, And

1030
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: now you have to come at it from a different

1031
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: mentality and recognize that we are going to have to

1032
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: pay a premium. And we go back to the free

1033
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: agency a couple of years ago. I'm not asked to

1034
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: spend two hundred million dollars in free agency again, but

1035
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: it felt like they recognize that a little bit, that Okay,

1036
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to pay Matthew jude On and we're

1037
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay Hunter Henry, and we're gonna have

1038
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: to pay these guys to come here and to get

1039
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: some some talented players on the roster. And now it

1040
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: feels like we're the last two offseasons, we've gone completely

1041
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: back to looking for value and not prioritizing those types

1042
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: of things, and that system falls apart. I mean, the

1043
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: quarterback is a whole separate issue, but that system generally,

1044
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: if you don't draft well, it falls apart because you can't.

1045
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: You must dig your way out. You must draft well.

1046
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: You must yeah, you must draft well, but you also

1047
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: must have exceptional play at the quarterback spot because the

1048
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: quarterback lifts all also around. Now, like I said, there

1049
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: are slight examples of teams that are completely stacked with

1050
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: no quarterback, like the Niners. That's a hell of a

1051
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: lot harder to do than finding a good quarterback because

1052
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: they have literally a great player at like twelve different spots.

1053
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,200
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Speaker 1: like you said, good drafting, and yeah, you know, he

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Speaker 1: you can do it. But I mean, literally, they have

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Speaker 1: Good for today. Okay, let's go. Let's go. One of

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Speaker 1: the talks to Evan and Paul, I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: need to trade for DeAndre Hopkins for that second round pick,

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Speaker 1: you sign Orlando Brown, who's still a free agent, to tackle,

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Speaker 1: do it all tight end that Evan loves. What did

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Speaker 1: you guys think of that? You're dreaming, That's what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 1: I'm dreaming with you, Mark, I'm dreaming with you. The

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Speaker 1: fact the odds of them paying DeAndre Hopkins in Orlando

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Speaker 1: Brown and Combine forty million dollars and giving up a

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Speaker 1: second round pick for DeAndre Hopkins zero. Do you think

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Speaker 1: it would only row beyond the beyond the money. Do

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Speaker 1: you think they could get him for a second round pick? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I do Hopkins, Yeah yeah, but they won't the problem.

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Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. I'm not arguing with the

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Speaker 1: best that really doesn't like adding Adding Dejandre Hopkins and

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Speaker 1: losing Jakobe Myers doesn't solve your offense problem. I think

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Speaker 1: you needed both. Yeah, why doesn't that solve your offense problem?

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Speaker 1: It helps you. You're you're a little better, but you

1082
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Speaker 1: had a terrible offense last year. Like, that doesn't solve

1083
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Speaker 1: your offense problem. O'Brien helps solve it too, right, I think?

1084
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Speaker 1: I think between Hopkins and Billy, Oh, that would make

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Speaker 1: your because you can find they can find if Hopkins

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Speaker 1: is your number one guy and you're just looking to

1087
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Speaker 1: replace Jacobe Myers eight hundred yards, that they can find that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you're adding more pieces, Okay, oh yeah, but those

1089
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Speaker 1: are the big pieces, Hopkins, Hopkins, Orlando Brown. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: didn't drafting the talking about Hopkins Now, I'm with Evan.

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Speaker 1: I mean no, no, I'm not Hopkins and Orlando. I'm

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Speaker 1: not talking about Orlando Brown even. I'm talking about Hopkins

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Speaker 1: and Bob. Like Hopkins and O'Brien being back, and then

1094
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Speaker 1: I'll find the eight hundred yard slot receiver in the

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Speaker 1: in the in the sixth round, like okay, yeah, let

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Speaker 1: me know when they do it. Oh, they won't do it, Mark,

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Speaker 1: that's not that's Ray Nixon, t J Mo, Jeremy Ebert,

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Speaker 1: Who else am I missing? Jeremy Gallen about a six

1099
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Speaker 1: seventh round slot receivers. Julian Edeman worked uh Eldred's in

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. Heyl he was a quarterback. What's up Eldred ladies?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing good? Hey, Evan? I agree with you. Oh,

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Speaker 1: time to do it at nineteen ninety giants people, because

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Speaker 1: I can't understand with this GM I've been having for

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Speaker 1: fifteen years. Replaced it. But but you will pay Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Jones twenty million. But you could have got Rammed for

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Speaker 1: a third and pay him to pay him twenty million too,

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Speaker 1: like the Dolphins did. And I just can't understand those moves.

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Speaker 1: They could have done both. They could have resigned Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Jones and traded for Jail and Ramsey thank you, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: round a third round, but he'll give a second round

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Speaker 1: to a drive up wide receivers the new you know

1112
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Speaker 1: death would death gets my blood up and delude you

1113
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Speaker 1: on one thing. Two things den I appreciate from two

1114
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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. Della Harry could have got McCartin of Decalvil

1115
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Speaker 1: like I want. He can't make Cavin like I won't,

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Speaker 1: or even one of the other guys like I told Paul,

1117
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Speaker 1: which he ridiqued him. Out dinner date. I told him

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Speaker 1: he's been yelling at me for years, two years. You

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Speaker 1: want to get rid of Harry, and after the first year,

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Speaker 1: everybody draft before Harry and after Harry's better than Harry,

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Speaker 1: and he he can't blame the guy. I'm just mad.

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Speaker 1: I'm still last year's out of the league. You had,

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Speaker 1: he picked up. You pick a comfound guard, you get

1127
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Speaker 1: GM days is I don't understand him. I just can't

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1130
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Speaker 1: talent because you could get the same team you got now.

1131
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Speaker 1: And I just can't understand that. Yeah, it to me, Frank,

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Speaker 1: I just can't. All right. Other than that, I guess

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Speaker 1: I just don't look for it. No, I look where

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1135
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Speaker 1: all I keep saying. All right, but we're playing all right.

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Speaker 1: As how I feel, Yeah, how I feel he's got

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Speaker 1: that twenty nineteen draft on lockdown. He knows everybody draft

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Speaker 1: the ships sailed of what I'm talking about with like

1140
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1141
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1142
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1143
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1144
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1145
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: It's just the kind of player too. Like you consider

1146
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1147
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1148
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, these kids know how to catch the football.

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Speaker 1: years ago in the show, there was a conversation you

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Speaker 1: had about washing machines and how you had to buy

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Speaker 1: where you want to go? Now? I remember this now

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Speaker 1: that you know the problem with Speed Queen is you

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Speaker 1: Speed Queen is where you want to go now you

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Speaker 1: a fantom Maytag. Maytag is good, durable, Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: like Speed Queen. The problem with all appliances nowadays is

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Speaker 1: with Speed Queen. What's the different Speed Queens are the

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Speaker 1: ones used in the laundry mats? They just go, but

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Speaker 1: they're built to give you five to ten years, not

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Speaker 1: to Speed Queen. Okay, all the guys, all the guys

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Speaker 1: that sell all of these different things are French lights,

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Speaker 1: right Queen. Like I said, I if you're looking for

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Speaker 1: no plastic, you go. You go with the Speed Queen. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm standing in the middle of the store and I

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Speaker 1: another great moment from all right back, Karon, Patriots unfil

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Speaker 1: I forgot about like, well into the conversation, you're going

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Speaker 1: what does that mean? You can't you can't wash you

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Speaker 1: jeans three times? That actually kills one of our trivia

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Speaker 1: questions that we were gonna do giving away a T shirt.

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Speaker 1: But sorry, we could bury that and yeah, use that

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Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. Why don't we do one

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Speaker 1: now that you want to give away, let's do it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're ready, Matt. Okay. Matt is the keeper of the answers,

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Speaker 1: So the first person who emails a correct answer to

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Speaker 1: web radio at Patriots dot Com wins a Patriots Unfiltered

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Speaker 1: T shirt. So the question is, what was the subject

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Speaker 1: of Eric's book that was never published? Written but never published.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I think in my like

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Speaker 1: topic came up and we started talking about it um

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Speaker 1: right off the bat, and he was very very close

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Speaker 1: to the vest about his project where it was headed

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Speaker 1: in the rose Bok. We gotta get a publisher, you

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Speaker 1: gotta get an agent. I know, Fred, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: get an agent. It's really hard. But I was trying

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Speaker 1: to convince it to self published. You can do that now,

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Speaker 1: you should. I don't know. I mean there are people

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Speaker 1: out there like writing. They probably have chat GPT write

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Speaker 1: a kid's book and then they have like some other

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Speaker 1: book before you know what, and you know, making money

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Speaker 1: on the side. So I hit, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to give anything away. Winter. We have a photo,

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Speaker 1: all right, Stop with your stop with your answers, because

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Speaker 1: I see the emails are going nuts. What was who's

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Speaker 1: had the first one? Our friend Dan in Virginia and

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Speaker 1: Michigan and the answer is Africa. Africa. It was an

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Speaker 1: ode to Africa with a little romance. I think my

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Speaker 1: line was I was like, oh, what's the book about,

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Speaker 1: and I was like Africa, and I'm like, it's very broad,

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Speaker 1: generally Africa. He went to Africa for two weeks and

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Speaker 1: so we decided he knew one enough to write a

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Speaker 1: book looking for n That was not what I was expecting,

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Speaker 1: very very arrogant. What Paul is like in Tears. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how upon the Serengetti, a young bald Rhode

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Speaker 1: Island makes his way writing an elephant, but you know

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Speaker 1: how like, um, you know, we shouldn't say because he's

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Speaker 1: not here, but you know how, like a good story

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Speaker 1: has layers, like there's the main story and then there's

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Speaker 1: sub stories, like the sub story. The substory in this

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Speaker 1: because Exerts had been published to the web. Um was

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Speaker 1: this woman who he was in love with that wouldn't

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Speaker 1: answer his phone call? That was the should probably pull back.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, so you read the story, you're somehow

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Speaker 1: somebody got their hands on exerpts and got to the

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Speaker 1: cheese exerpts. Exerts. Yeah, you so you read you read them? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: on the web. Oh, the Peu fans were relentless on Eric.

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Speaker 1: Like he used to photo. He would water mark, watermarks photos.

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Speaker 1: It's like photos that he would put online his personal

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Speaker 1: photography's going to lift his So every week for the

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Speaker 1: pregame show, you take a picture of the studio, right,

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Speaker 1: did you ever think to watermarket? No, Eric would. My

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Speaker 1: My watermark was Hardy photo bombing every single one of

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Speaker 1: my pictures. That's right. Yes. Tomaro would take a picture

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Speaker 1: with Mike in the background and Hardy would sneak over

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Speaker 1: literally and someone commented like I posted like, someone was like,

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Speaker 1: is that Hardy in the back? I'm like, yes, it

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Speaker 1: is every single photo, the one and only guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: just that was apparently an easy one because we had

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Speaker 1: a ton of emails and yeah, we're looking to give

1426
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Speaker 1: away the merch. Yeah, it's tough with those common themes

1427
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Speaker 1: that we would hammer Eric every now and then they

1428
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: come up every show. That was classic though, Fragles, you

1429
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Speaker 1: went to Africa for two weeks and you're an expert,

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Speaker 1: so a lot of harrumping. It's true, though, isn't it. Yes,

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01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: Fred Okay's wondering Heaven is still here. He just doesn't

1432
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: like we veer our away from the stay front target,

1433
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: stay on target. One person, so he would have hated

1434
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Speaker 1: the talk we had about soap for like three episodes

1435
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Speaker 1: in a row. Oh, don't get us started on that.

1436
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Speaker 1: One person's answer about what the topic was was cheese. No,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't corrected about cheese. But I like when we

1438
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Speaker 1: do this because it shows me how many people are

1439
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Speaker 1: listening to the show, Because like there's a ton of

1440
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Speaker 1: emails that now just came in and like within moments,

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Speaker 1: moments moments all right, eight five five passive taken a

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Speaker 1: hotline web radio atpages dot com is the email address.

1443
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Speaker 1: We'll do another one, uh to give away another T

1444
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Speaker 1: shirt later in the show, But let's go back to

1445
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: the phones. Scott Chris is in Scottsdale. Scott Chris, you guys, okay,

1446
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Speaker 1: So the rejoint that we have right and bear with me.

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Speaker 1: We're in the off season, so give me just a

1448
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: little bit of time here, Fred. But the rejoint, okay, um,

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Speaker 1: the best one ever and you guys don't do it anymore?

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Speaker 1: Is the ben Are you hung? That was good? You

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Speaker 1: can do that again? I okay, Fred, Yeah, I'm with

1452
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Speaker 1: my girl. The other day and I'm listening to like

1453
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Speaker 1: an old episode and that that rejoint comes on and

1454
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: it caught me unawares that we're talking. I'm drinking, I'm

1455
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Speaker 1: taking a sip of my water and the Benner you

1456
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Speaker 1: home comes on and I literally crishy does it to me?

1457
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Speaker 1: Once a show? Oh my god? We were both dying.

1458
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, when you were like oh god at the

1459
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Speaker 1: end of it. Yeah, So that that rejoint And then

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Speaker 1: and then here's the other one, Fred where you and

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Speaker 1: Andy were arguing about the pipe that goes in it

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Speaker 1: goes in hard but comes out wet. Yeah, that was

1463
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: the turf. That's the turf. And Arizona. Yeah yeah, the turf.

1464
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: There we go. So anyways, and I'm keeping it clean.

1465
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: That's I just you know, so marine corps and feel

1466
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: like you've got to hit the atom bomb on me.

1467
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: Someone needs to add that Twitter account that's like Patriots unfiltered,

1468
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: no context. That would be very interesting. There is a

1469
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: Twitter I don't know, you haven't seen it. It's so funny. Okay,

1470
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: there's classic fread both of those. But anyways, okay, so

1471
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 1: then Evan, I wanted to say this to you, man,

1472
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: I'm really, really, really happy that you're that you've joined

1473
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: the show. I really, honestly, this is my my honest take,

1474
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: because I feel like you've you've really added a lot

1475
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: that I think, and this is going to be kind

1476
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 1: of controversial or funny, uh that when Big had left

1477
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: the show and not that he's you, I find you

1478
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more informative and you know, closer to

1479
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the things that interest me on players

1480
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: and development and all that. But I'm just really really

1481
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: pleased with the fact that you're part of the show, man.

1482
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 1: I think you really thank you. Yeah, Man, after any left,

1483
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 1: how you didn't like what happened after left the show

1484
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: went down. That's how I took that, dude, all right?

1485
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: Football wise, guys, Um, so it's Paul, you know, man,

1486
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: I message you and everything like that, And you know

1487
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: you're you're big on when when people have take, you're

1488
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: big on like, hey, you know, don't just tell me now,

1489
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: like you know, tell me before it happened. I like

1490
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,919
Speaker 1: to know your thoughts on people before they become patriots

1491
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 1: or ex patriots. As I was joking around with my

1492
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: my colleagues on the way, it'd be nice to talk

1493
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 1: openly about John ou Smith now that he's no longer

1494
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 1: a Patriot. I don't thin people helped back while he

1495
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: was here either anyway, not used right. I just remember

1496
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,839
Speaker 1: I just remember writing you at draft time when DK Metcalf,

1497
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: you know, like to you know, Eldred his his whole thing,

1498
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: which he's hilarious. I love him, but um, you know

1499
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: when when when we had that draft that basically was

1500
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, wanting DK Metcalf to be our selection, we

1501
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: had two cracks at it. And that just leads me

1502
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: to this this whole offseason, you know talk, I think

1503
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 1: you guys are finally, finally, finally starting to kind of voice.

1504
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: I think you probably all privately felt the frustration of

1505
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: what we do in the draft, what we don't do

1506
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: in the draft, what we do in preg what we

1507
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: don't do in free agency. Where I've been, you know,

1508
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: beating this drum, even when we had Brady talking about

1509
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: how we didn't have star wide receiver. Ever, what could

1510
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: he have done with a r Moss kind of guy

1511
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: all the time, And I realize he's extra extra level

1512
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 1: Randy Moss, but I'm just saying, like a Hopkins where

1513
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: he just Bill just refuses to invest the draft capital

1514
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: or invest in the free agency to grab a guy

1515
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: like that. And I think you know, Fred finally said

1516
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: you know what, which really pleased me. I think it

1517
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: was Fred who said it today where you know we're

1518
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: learning now that it or no, it was Paul where

1519
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: I think when you guys said that we're learning now

1520
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: that a lot of this was bread. You know how

1521
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: this system of the way Bill does things works because

1522
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: of Brady. But guys, this is a borning product. I

1523
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: mean just from a fan's perspective, and I think you

1524
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: know that mister Kraft needs to understand that. I'm sure

1525
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: he does, but like as a fan, it's boring to

1526
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: watch this brand of football, and when you don't have

1527
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 1: Brady out there, there's nothing to even captivate me man,

1528
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: other than my love and leads to the team. But

1529
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear your thoughts on that, guys, And

1530
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: thanks for hearing me out on everything today, Thanks Chris. Yeah, yeah,

1531
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean offensively, certainly. I mean, it was just not

1532
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 1: an NFL our offense. Last year, We've said it, we

1533
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: said it many times. No, I feel like I was

1534
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: constantly repeating myself on Patriots Unfiltered on TV saying the

1535
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: offense was so unesthetically pleasing. And it's like when I

1536
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: think about when we go into the locker room and

1537
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 1: we talked to the defensive guys and we're like, you

1538
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: know what um stands out to you about the posing

1539
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: team's offense. They would have so much to say either

1540
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: about oh Jamar Chase or oh Burrow. When you think

1541
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: about playing our offense, like what is the other team saying? Right, like,

1542
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: oh Mac Jones Probably there's just nothing. Yeah, yeah, like

1543
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: there's just no there's no it's factor, there's nothing scary.

1544
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: There's nothing that's scary, that's nothing that's challenging. Yeah. You

1545
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to talk about our relationship on the don't

1546
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: public ms, So yeah, I think it's boring. It's not

1547
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: fun to watch for us, it's not fun to watch

1548
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: for the fans. We were talking about this yesterday about

1549
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: training camp and when you go out to training camp

1550
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: last year, even there was just no buzz, like there's there.

1551
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: The only buzz was the fights. There was no buzz.

1552
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: The attendance wasn't great. It just felt dead. And from

1553
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 1: that standpoint, and it's not all about this, but from

1554
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 1: that standpoint, a trade for DeAndre Hopkins, a big swing

1555
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: in the draft for a Jackson Smith and jigbad fourteen,

1556
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: Like if they traded for DeAndre Hopkins and we come

1557
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: out here on July twenty sixth or whenever training camp opens,

1558
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 1: the Hopkins jerseys and the chance and not like it

1559
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: would bring some some much juice to the whole thing.

1560
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: And I don't think you can underrate that stuff. And

1561
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: like we I think try to get into like well

1562
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 1: would you take player X and how do you see

1563
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: player X fitting in? And like there's a macro level

1564
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: of this that just doesn't really matter. It's more about

1565
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: does this guy have some name brand? Is this gonna

1566
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: bring some excitement? Is this gonna put some butts in

1567
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 1: the seats at training camp? In the game? And I

1568
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: agree somebody Hopkins, there needs to be a big swing,

1569
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: and not a big swing on a mediocre like mid player.

1570
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: It needs to be a big swing on a big

1571
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: player Like that's what needs to happen. Yeah. On the

1572
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: AH ticket hotline, what's up, William? What's going on? Fred?

1573
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: How you doing all right? Uh? To the last caller

1574
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: that you had and to what Tamara was saying, Yeah,

1575
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: it is born. I mean it's it's horrible. It's damn

1576
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: they are disgusting basic you know, just no, you don't

1577
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: have no premium, no talent, no, just no excitement, no nothing.

1578
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: And it seemed like we're going in that same direction

1579
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 1: for another season again. And I'm wondering, like, what is

1580
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: mister Kraft is doing. I mean, when he stepped in

1581
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: and whatnot in terms of the offensive coordinere, I just

1582
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: maybe thought he might step a little bit more in

1583
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: terms of free agen see in the draft. Not saying

1584
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: Netland though, but like, you know, lighting a little fire.

1585
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: I need to feel, you know what. Basically just to

1586
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: you know, good things jumping, like, look, bring some talent

1587
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 1: in here. You know you've got you have the money

1588
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 1: and spent it's not builds money, so spend no, spend

1589
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: some money whatnot. And also to the Jacobe thing, Samarin, look,

1590
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: I know you are big Jakobe fan. I take that

1591
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: from from me. I mean, he's he's okay, he has

1592
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: a hell of a story. He has worked his tail

1593
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: off and everything. No, I salute to the man in

1594
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: the morning a little bit too him. All right. So

1595
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: but um, the thing is, I'm not burnt by him

1596
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: leaving though, But I see that you are. How do

1597
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 1: I say you are subtracting? You're not addie players, you know?

1598
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:32,560
Speaker 1: And why Nelson Aguilar even is even still on the

1599
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: teams though he's not on the tissue with that. And

1600
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 1: Jakobe Myers is productive, way more productive than Nelson. Yeah,

1601
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: Ago is going to Yeah Goo is a free agent.

1602
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: He's a free agent. He's not on the team. Okay,

1603
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: is Jabrill Peppers coming back? Is there? He's a free

1604
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: agent coming back? Wow? I mean guys like Jabrill Peppers.

1605
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: We have a very loud, thanksfull fan base for Jabriel Peppers,

1606
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: Like everybody really likes Jabrill Peppers. I like Dreill Peppers too.

1607
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: But I mean he's gonna get one year, three and

1608
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: a half million dollars to come back to the Patriots

1609
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: at some point over the next couple of weeks. If

1610
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: they had um, if he was a different kind of safety,

1611
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: if he was more of a center field type safety,

1612
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: I would say by all means, I just feel like

1613
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,799
Speaker 1: Dugger is much better than that in that style. And Phillips.

1614
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about Phillips. I thought tailed off

1615
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 1: at the end of last year. So if you want

1616
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: to bring back Phillips as like I mean Peppers as

1617
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: Phillips Insurance. Yeah, like, like Evan said, for a one

1618
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: year deal. Sure, but I don't think he's better than

1619
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: either one of those two guys. Now, he's smaller, but

1620
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: I think I just like how he plays because he

1621
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 1: just is kind of like a wild card and is

1622
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: willing to stick his nose in there. And I had

1623
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard penalty every other game. No, I like too,

1624
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: but I just he's not a needle mover, like you're

1625
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: gonna pay him, especially manimal money, and he's gonna come

1626
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: back and do what he did last year, which is fine.

1627
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm just not super all right, Josh, You're next on

1628
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: Patriots untalented, I mean Patriots unfiltered? What Wow? What's up? Good? Hey,

1629
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: I'd love to play. It's kind of a game, but

1630
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: I think it'll it'll lead to, uh, a little bit

1631
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: more of a discussion. I don't I don't know if

1632
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 1: you guys remember the Great Jersey debate a couple of

1633
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: years ago with Megan. Yeah, yeah, with Megan. Yeah, I'm

1634
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: not personally a Jersey owner, but first take of the

1635
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: game and the discussion, let's just say everyone is if

1636
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 1: you had to buy a jersey of a of a

1637
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: player on the team, Now, who would it be. I

1638
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 1: think it's just leading to the conversation of who you

1639
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 1: think the core of the team is. And in light

1640
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: of free agency and even someone like Jacobe who felt

1641
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: like a Patriot through and through of sorts, we know

1642
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: that they just end up leaving to a different team

1643
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: at some point. And so I'd love to hear what

1644
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: you guys think is is the core? Who you hope

1645
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: to be here? It's a hard one three to five years.

1646
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: Maybe a Marcus Challenge jersey Kyle Dugger. Yeah, just to answer,

1647
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: I got a Judean shirt from my son at the

1648
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,600
Speaker 1: start of last season, knowing that he was going to

1649
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 1: be on the team that you know last year and

1650
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: this year. I think that's all the Like Dougger, I

1651
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: think it's a great candidate. He could be gone next year,

1652
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 1: but he'll be a free agent, so I don't know

1653
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. Yeah, no, they won't pay him.

1654
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna pick jude on Judean, I is. I

1655
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 1: got one for TJ last year. Um at the beginning

1656
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: of the season, Vermandre Stevenson. But I think same kind

1657
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: of thing with Dougger. I think he could be here

1658
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: for two more years and go. But I think you

1659
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: get you had a couple of years out of it

1660
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 1: to shirt. I think that's worthwhile investment. But the caller's

1661
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: point is is valid. Yeah, what did you say, Mike?

1662
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 1: This the only only the twenty twenty five, the only

1663
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 1: people in a contract on this team twenty one draft class.

1664
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 1: So you can end up having twenty one guys under

1665
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: contract for twenty twenty five after the draft because they're

1666
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 1: gonna draft eleven guys. Well, like they am I crazy

1667
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 1: for harpering on this so much? Like I feel like

1668
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm like saying it, and everyone's like, yeah, that's just

1669
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: kind of how it is. Like I it just feels

1670
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: to me like you draft guys, you develop them, they walk.

1671
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: He signed some free agents, they walk. I'm gonna go,

1672
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: fred I just like, does it matter. I'm not telling

1673
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: you you're you're crazy for harping on it, but I

1674
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: need more information. I need to know what everybody else

1675
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: has under contract in twenty twenty. It's common, I would say,

1676
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: across the league to not have guys signed for that

1677
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: far out out of the books. But the problem is

1678
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: is who do you even want to bring back past

1679
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Like Who's I think that's the bigger part

1680
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: of the question, right, right, that's who I say, I

1681
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,759
Speaker 1: need to know who, like if if so? The Patriots

1682
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: have ten guys from that twenty one class eleven okay,

1683
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 1: so eleven guys. So maybe the other team's you know,

1684
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 1: high end is fifteen guys. Low end is eight guys.

1685
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: But of those eight guys, you know, six pillars of

1686
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 1: your team as opposed to right, you know, I don't

1687
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: even know who twenty one draft class off the time,

1688
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: I mean the last the last time that they gave

1689
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: a second contract to a draft pick was I think

1690
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 1: Shack Mason, which is who got traded again by the way, yeah,

1691
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. And then before that it

1692
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: was High Tower was the last Patriot draft pick to

1693
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 1: get a second contract with the Patriots. So that's that's

1694
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 1: the part. That's the bigger point, Evan. And like, you know,

1695
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: as much as I could say, oh, I'd like to

1696
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,640
Speaker 1: resign Kyle Dugger, I'd like to somebody sign Michaelman. You

1697
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 1: I'd even like to resign Josh Ucha or any one

1698
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: of those guys, Like, do I pound the table and

1699
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 1: say these guys are part of the culture here and

1700
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: are going to be the playmakers over the next five years.

1701
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: And they're like, I don't know. I replaced those guys,

1702
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: Like I don't. But if not, then it's a bigger problem,

1703
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. The only person I can see them

1704
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: doing that too, is like keeping is like if Marcus

1705
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: Jones has if he has the same production every year,

1706
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: then I would keep it. They'd keep a Marcus Jones

1707
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: because it's cost effective. Like Marcus Jones is gonna get

1708
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 1: like a Jonathan Jones type contract extension ADS not a

1709
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: number one receiver, right returner, slot corner right, and so

1710
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: they'll pay him ten million a year and that will

1711
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: be a value extension. But it's like if even what

1712
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: you're saying, like it's just hard as a fan to

1713
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: get attached to players and to be like, you know, oh,

1714
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 1: I love this guy. I love him. You know. It's like, well, yeah,

1715
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 1: you love Kyle Dugger. He might be gone next year,

1716
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 1: so I know, I just as a fan, I find

1717
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 1: I find we're very defositive. Today. David's in New York.

1718
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 1: What's up, David? You can blame the weather for that, Hey,

1719
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 1: guys doesn't go he's good. Uh So to that point

1720
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 1: with the jersey thing, I I have one jersey foul

1721
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: in my collection right now and it's Malcolm Butler number four, Jervey.

1722
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: That's funny. That's actually a deep dive though, Like youah

1723
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: to get that made? Right? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I got

1724
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: accustom made. It was a decision. I haven't worn it since.

1725
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,560
Speaker 1: Do you like number four? Right? I do like the

1726
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: number four? And that was the fourth the fourth Super Bowl.

1727
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 1: You got the interception. I think you can still wear.

1728
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna allow it. I'll allow it. Wow

1729
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: you are? You are? And allow the point question more like,

1730
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 1: is there a is there a free agent out there

1731
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: that you know you'd still be interested in? Like I don't.

1732
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I feel like my top two guys were

1733
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: Omans and Bates, but you know, obviously gone and I

1734
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 1: don't really know really many people I'm interested in right now,

1735
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: So I'll take it up here. I think, Evan, I

1736
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: think I don't remember the names that you had, but

1737
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: didn't you put something out of guys and I got

1738
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: trashed on despite the fact that that's who's available everybody,

1739
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: Like there's guess what. They just proved that you'll get

1740
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: trashed for whatever. They sat out the first wave of

1741
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: a free agency. So the Jesse Bates, I can't put

1742
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 1: him on a wish list anymore because he's an Atlanta Falcon.

1743
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 1: Is Bibert Murphy still available? He is. I feel like

1744
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 1: I'm at my fantasy football draft. I'll take Bibert Murphy.

1745
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 1: I actually liked the idea of Paris Campbell too. I

1746
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: liked him coming out and he finally was healthy last

1747
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: year and put up some numbers. He's kind of, you know,

1748
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 1: a gadgety speed slot type of player, around a four three,

1749
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 1: you know, give him some speed. Kayla McGarry still out there.

1750
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Orlando Brown still out there, but

1751
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna be twenty million dollars a year

1752
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: that they won't spend. So Caleb McGarry, I think is

1753
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: one of the names. He's not a good pass blocker,

1754
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,640
Speaker 1: but he's an elite run blocker, and they're going to

1755
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: play him at right tackle, where they usually put the

1756
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 1: bigger run blockers on that side of the line. So

1757
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 1: I think that he's somebody that's like an immediate plugin

1758
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 1: played right tackle. But in terms of the rest of it.

1759
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 1: I mean you're I think there's some interesting value guys

1760
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: at tight end, Like if they want to add another

1761
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 1: veteran tight end just right, those guys are going to

1762
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 1: be expensive. But like some guys like Austin Hooper or

1763
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: Foster Moreau from the Raiders, or just as another veteran

1764
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: to keep an eye, just another veteran player, just so

1765
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: that when you draft somebody at tight end, you're not

1766
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 1: putting it all on their plate to immediately contribute. That's

1767
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: a position that through the draft. As good as this

1768
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 1: draft class is, that position still does take a couple

1769
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,640
Speaker 1: of years sometimes for guys to really stick out at

1770
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 1: tight end. So maybe you add somebody like that can

1771
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 1: cost you five six million on a contract, so not

1772
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 1: much money, but at least gives you some Hunter Henry

1773
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 1: insurance and allows you to ease in whichever rookie take

1774
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 1: in the draft. Island of Foster Moreau, remember that movie? Yeah?

1775
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 1: Was that a god? What's his face? Island of Doctor Moreau? Yeah,

1776
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 1: Michael York, I think some of these movies from like

1777
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 1: I just remember the video case from them, from going

1778
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,600
Speaker 1: to like our local video store before even Blockbuster, and

1779
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 1: like just the movie poster of it. God, that was

1780
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: a while ago. Didn't even a monkey in it. Well,

1781
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:37,639
Speaker 1: it was all about this Island South. They were becoming

1782
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: good human Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Caleb and Knoxville says,

1783
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 1: I think the team is too far away from winning

1784
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 1: anything more than a few regular season games to spend

1785
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 1: good chunks of money to guys who aren't going to

1786
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: be meaningful impact players in terms of winning the division

1787
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 1: or conference. We need to be all right with being

1788
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 1: irrelevant for a couple of years while the rest of

1789
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: the league gets a little older, and hopefully we can

1790
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 1: draft a few key pieces in this draft and next.

1791
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: See that's I can't agree with that way. If thinking

1792
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 1: he's assuming the rest of the league's gonna stay put,

1793
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: nothing stands still. You also like, actually in that league, Yeah,

1794
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: I think it's just not even try. I think you

1795
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: wave the white flag. But I think it's the easiest

1796
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: league to go from bad or mediocre to go to good.

1797
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 1: Like you see it every year. There's how many playoff

1798
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: teams change from one year to the next. Yeah, Like,

1799
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 1: did anybody have Philadelphia as a Super Bowl contender coming

1800
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 1: into the season. They were? They were. It's not like

1801
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 1: they were a fluke. They were like a sleeper super

1802
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 1: Bowl contender no one knew was going to be who

1803
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 1: didn't miss pick him up stairs. And I think the

1804
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: other issue that you have is just we were also

1805
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: talking about this. I think Bill's too good of a coach.

1806
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: If you want to go full rebuild, youre trying to

1807
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: make up for everything that he said the first hour. No,

1808
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 1: because I separate build a coach and build a GM

1809
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 1: there are two different people. Build a coach. I think

1810
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: it's going to coach you to the fourteenth in the draft,

1811
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 1: assuming that the roster is what the roster has been

1812
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, and you're not rebuilding.

1813
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: The fourteenth pick isn't getting you anywhere. It's not it's

1814
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: not getting you a quarterback, and it's not getting you

1815
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 1: a top five premium Will Anderson type of talent. I

1816
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: got you a quarterback. I don't you know quarterback quarterback?

1817
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: Thank you. I agree every single look at the COVID year,

1818
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 1: fifteenth pick in the draft, fourteen pick in the draft

1819
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 1: when they missed the playoffs. Now, so you're not even

1820
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 1: picking in the top ten because Bill's coaching you to

1821
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 1: seven eight nine wins, get a crappy coach in a

1822
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: top pick. I saw that I was interesting. I always

1823
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: here to reach an agreement on an extension. I think

1824
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: that might be good for them. That's like one of

1825
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: those where the two rely on him and like what

1826
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:47,719
Speaker 1: he does when he's healthy, and like just get playing

1827
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:49,679
Speaker 1: every game? Last year? Did he? I had him? Finally,

1828
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,560
Speaker 1: I had him in Fantasy carried my team. It's a

1829
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 1: productive guy. No no running backs. Let's go to rashot

1830
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. What's up, rashot Hey? What's up? Every Hey? Um? First,

1831
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 1: before I saw, I gotta say, Mike U. I heard.

1832
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 1: I heard everything he said, and I mean pretty much.

1833
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 1: That's That's pretty much what everybody who doesn't want Lamar,

1834
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 1: that's what they say. You know, he gets injured, and

1835
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 1: you know he's inaccurate. But my thing is, would you

1836
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 1: rather that? Or would you rather have Mac Jones? Would

1837
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:28,560
Speaker 1: you rather Mac Jones making forty million a year or

1838
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 1: whatever it is, which would rather have Lamar? You know?

1839
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,600
Speaker 1: But I understand that. But that's that's the that's the

1840
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 1: argument that I've been getting all weekend. I don't want

1841
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 1: him because he's going to be hurt. But yeah, there's

1842
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,560
Speaker 1: a chance anybody can get hurt. No, I understand it.

1843
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: But my but my question is have the Patriots ever

1844
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: paid anybody over one hundred millions? Like I know they've

1845
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 1: given out like five years for sixty five millions something

1846
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: like that, but like when is the last time they

1847
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: paid somebody like you know, a contract that's over in

1848
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: the contract Fred, thank you, and and that then drew

1849
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:13,639
Speaker 1: that that and I see all these contracts going out,

1850
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 1: like you know, the the right tackle to the Broncos

1851
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 1: and even like the like the the the defensive tackle

1852
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,560
Speaker 1: to the to the forty nine. Is like I'm like

1853
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots are not giving out these type of numbers,

1854
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,799
Speaker 1: Like it's no way like we're going to pay somebody

1855
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 1: four years ninety millions, you know stuff like that. So

1856
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 1: all like all these breeds and stuff is like it's

1857
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: type dreams. So I really don't know what to expect,

1858
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 1: like like I'm still dreaming, like I don't I really

1859
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 1: don't know where they should go because it's it's a lot.

1860
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 1: It's a lot of places they need to go. And

1861
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 1: if they go the wrong place and take the wrong player,

1862
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 1: like you know, it's it's it's a whole lot. So

1863
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 1: just sending them contracts and knowing the history of the Patriots, like,

1864
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 1: they're not going to change who they are, right, Well,

1865
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 1: you've got to adapt, adapt or die, is what they say,

1866
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,799
Speaker 1: adapt or die. Thanks for shod I think Rashad shares

1867
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 1: the sentiment from a lot of Patriots fans that I'm

1868
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 1: seeing emailing into the show right now. Yeah, that's probably

1869
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 1: where my concern lies. Is not that I think it's

1870
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 1: too late to do anything. It's just I don't really

1871
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of confidence that those kinds of impact

1872
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 1: moves will be made. And I'm not saying they need

1873
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: to do what they did in twenty one, you know,

1874
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 1: and signed five, six seven guys to significant contracts, but

1875
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 1: I'd like to get a piece or two. So, as

1876
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: Evan said earlier in the show, you don't have to

1877
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 1: get it all in the draft because you can't get

1878
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: it all in the draft, which is usually what they do. Like,

1879
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 1: I always feel like they will fill out their roster.

1880
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 1: So if they have to play a game on April fifteenth,

1881
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: like they could do it. It wouldn't be great, but

1882
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 1: they've got it. Was really about that. I was thinking

1883
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 1: I did the mail bag this week, right, No, I didn't.

1884
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean last week, and oh no, it was my

1885
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: it was it was my notes in the free agent thing,

1886
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,679
Speaker 1: and of all the needs. Um, yeah, I knew because

1887
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 1: I knew. It was like Monday, so you know, you

1888
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 1: have tackle, wide, receiver, corner, all of you know, play

1889
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:14,600
Speaker 1: the hits. And I was like, I put punter on

1890
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 1: the list too. But I think we can all assume

1891
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:18,679
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a punter on the roster, Like that's

1892
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 1: not necessarily like a need that needs to be filled.

1893
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: That's a good point, you know what I mean, Like

1894
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a punter. Someone's gonna get signed and

1895
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: be the punter. I'm not sure they're going to have

1896
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,679
Speaker 1: an athletic rangee linebacker that can go sideline to sideline.

1897
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 1: You could play a game without one of those. And

1898
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that Tremaine Edmonds, who I was making

1899
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: a case for in my notes, I'm not sure they're

1900
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 1: going to do that, and they didn't. You know, Like,

1901
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they're going to have a number one

1902
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 1: corner that you know, every team in the league will

1903
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 1: consider their best corner. But they're gonna have a punch,

1904
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 1: So I'm not putting punter on needs. That's right. That

1905
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 1: was why we did the free agency previous and I

1906
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 1: was like, do I do a special teams like it's specialist? Yes,

1907
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 1: you should. They need all three man have a full

1908
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 1: turner over there like tar Get putters the target. Free

1909
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 1: agent putters the target and no, I wouldn't necessarily waste

1910
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 1: much time doing that. Here's a great long I know,

1911
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:10,719
Speaker 1: but there you go. I'll have him write it. Scott

1912
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 1: writes in from Virginia. I know everyone is focused on

1913
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 1: trading for a wide out and drafting one, but no

1914
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: matter what they do, I feel the X factor for

1915
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 1: this offense will be what Billy Oh draws up with

1916
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,760
Speaker 1: Tai Kwon. What do you think Bill's plan will be

1917
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 1: to get Tai Kwon more touches? And can you see

1918
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:31,680
Speaker 1: him becoming the next slot receiver? Absolutely not, No, no,

1919
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 1: I can't. And I just I want to figure out

1920
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: how they how they break up? You know, Parker, but

1921
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 1: I miss you ruin my train of thought there, Paul.

1922
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 1: But I think my question is is you know you

1923
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 1: have I think you have two outside guys in Parker

1924
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 1: and Thornton. I think Thornton is kind of a speed

1925
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: guy and I'd love to have him run more than

1926
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 1: goes and comebacks. Uh, we know what we have with Parker.

1927
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 1: I mean I think that he's a piece. I don't

1928
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 1: say that he's the number one guy, but I think

1929
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 1: he's a piece. I think we saw that towards the end.

1930
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,719
Speaker 1: He can have good games. He can be an effective

1931
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 1: contested catch guy down the sidelines, just in the middle.

1932
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: How do you Kenrick Bourne, that's all you got to

1933
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: work with right now? How do you, you know, play

1934
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 1: find more guys to play with? Give Billy O'More things

1935
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 1: because I just think between Thornton and Parker, you don't

1936
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: have a lot of options. Like you're basically chucking the

1937
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: ball down the field or you're throwing a comeback. It's

1938
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 1: the same thing with the two guys on the outside.

1939
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how they fill in the middle. They've

1940
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: got to KNOWLEDG Jacobe Gone, They've got to find a

1941
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 1: way to build out that kind of Like, So can

1942
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: I play way over the top? Positive Paul for a change,

1943
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 1: kind of a break? I we need some positivity and

1944
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 1: kind of a break from character. Is there a chance

1945
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 1: with all of this excitement that I seem to be

1946
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 1: missing on which matter? What do I miss reading. There's

1947
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 1: a report that Rogers gave the Jets wish list of

1948
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 1: guys that I knew it. I knew it. I was like,

1949
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna come with it, like really too, Yeah, I

1950
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 1: knew it. I was like, if they get him, he's

1951
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 1: gonna come in asking for a wide receiver. He's gonna

1952
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: ask for his own office. He's gonna so Evan, you know,

1953
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 1: would be one of these guys. And I've certainly heard

1954
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:13,560
Speaker 1: this from like Tom Curran and a lot you know,

1955
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 1: the whole Bill O'Brien factor, right, and that's gonna, you know,

1956
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: increase the productivity across the board. Um, well, you said

1957
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 1: he's gonna be positive. Is that this is positive? Is

1958
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 1: there a chance that because of that in in you know,

1959
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:33,679
Speaker 1: such a high level uh of competent increase over last

1960
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: year with Billy O'Brien, that Kendrick Bourne becomes a really

1961
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 1: productive guy, like not just a you know, every couple

1962
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:44,759
Speaker 1: of games he makes a bunch of plays and everybody's

1963
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,600
Speaker 1: like he goes out and catches eighty five balls for

1964
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 1: twelve hundred yards. I don't think twelve hundred, but I

1965
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 1: think he could replace Jacobe, Like I think that that

1966
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 1: that's not good enough. But but I but if you're

1967
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 1: if you're replacing him, having him or play Kobe as

1968
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 1: let's just call it wide receiver three, and then you're

1969
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: adding a one yards good enough because it's the best

1970
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 1: you had. No, But but again add if Evan the

1971
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 1: rest of what Evan said. Sure, if you have two

1972
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: guys better than that, yeah, yeah. But what I'm wondering

1973
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 1: is ken Kendrick Bourne. Can Bill O'Brien unlock whatever the

1974
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: enigma is that is Kendrick Bourne, right, I think so

1975
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: that's positive. Paul could I'm gonna say no, because we've

1976
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,599
Speaker 1: seen him play with Kyle Shanahan Josh McDaniels. I mean,

1977
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: he's played for very good offensive coordinators before and they

1978
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 1: had really even him the unlock the last time. I'm

1979
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 1: going to be positive he was good at He was

1980
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 1: good in twenty one with McDaniels. Yeah, I thought he good.

1981
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 1: I thought he was But I'm not saying in twenty one,

1982
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 1: down the last half of the season, he was arguably

1983
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 1: the best receipt. I thought, I thought that he was good,

1984
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 1: and I was hoping for him to build on that

1985
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 1: last season. However he was However, I think his his

1986
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 1: off the field stuff I think derailed what he could

1987
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 1: have been and so I think that hopefully it wasn't

1988
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 1: is off the field stuffed it well. It didn't help though.

1989
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I know where you're getting out with with

1990
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 1: the offense overall, but I mean, but he didn't do

1991
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,719
Speaker 1: himself any favors with his whole transition. I can't blame

1992
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 1: I will not blame a single one of those guys

1993
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 1: for the way that they responded to that whole situation. No,

1994
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean it started before that. It was before the

1995
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 1: season even got going. Yeah, because they knew who their

1996
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 1: coach was on the side of the ball and fighting

1997
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 1: during camp like it was he because he knew who

1998
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 1: the coach was, like the coach he attacked the Panthers.

1999
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 1: Because because I want to add, you know, my list

2000
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 1: of guys that I want to anybody that was on

2001
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:40,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense in twenty I am not going to

2002
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 1: fall for any of those guys for speaking out or

2003
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 1: being frustrated about the coach trouble, for telling everybody they

2004
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 1: would change in the offense. Yes, I don't blame him.

2005
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 1: I would have done the same thing. Look like, it

2006
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 1: doesn't matter whatever they did. It's right because they had

2007
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 1: a guy that was going to be But what was

2008
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 1: one of the guys that liked the change? True? No, right, No,

2009
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 1: I think he said he thought they weren't doing it.

2010
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 1: He said they were running it wrong, said Ning that

2011
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 1: that's exactly what that remind But who was the receiver

2012
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 1: that early on set, I love what we're doing. I

2013
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 1: mean it's probably him. Yes, that's because they went to

2014
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:20,640
Speaker 1: the podium in there in front of all of us, like,

2015
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 1: of course they're gonna say the right thing. They talked

2016
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 1: about it was allowed. I think Myers might have been

2017
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 1: one of them, you know, allowed us to play faster. Yes,

2018
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 1: in theory, but they hated it. No, not not the

2019
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 1: fact that they changed it. They hated to Evans point,

2020
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 1: who was implementing the change, uh, Franklin at Baltimore. Not

2021
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 1: resigning Myers will go down as a mistake. And it's

2022
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 1: not because I believe he's a number one or that

2023
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 1: he's as physically gifted as other wide receivers. It's because

2024
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: for the money he signed for, you had a player

2025
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 1: who worked well in your system, worked well with your quarterback,

2026
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 1: and is the type of wide receiver who would thrive

2027
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 1: with an actual number one garnering coverage. It's a bad move.

2028
01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 1: We just cannot strive for more in this place. But

2029
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 1: why I think he's driving for more? He would thrive

2030
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 1: with a number one in place. How about we get

2031
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 1: a better version of Jacobe Myers and a good wide

2032
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: receiver to play off of them, Like, why does it

2033
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 1: have to just be the same? I need to know

2034
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:17,719
Speaker 1: who that is then, because I think he's a rock solid,

2035
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 1: complimentary piece. I don't think there were just a lot

2036
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 1: of third receivers that are better than eighty five catches. Right.

2037
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 1: That's why I don't understand why everyone's like so quick

2038
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 1: to say, oh, you know, it's okay, nice guy, But

2039
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:32,639
Speaker 1: it's okay because because there was always There's two things

2040
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 1: with him that I just I couldn't get over. One

2041
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 1: of the most important thing is that he gives you

2042
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 1: nothing after the catch. And if you're going to play

2043
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: that inside role and you're gonna catch the ball on

2044
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 1: those underneath routes, if you can't add after the catch,

2045
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 1: it just limits your ceiling so much. And the other

2046
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 1: thing I would say is I just never really looked

2047
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 1: at him as like a dynamic player, like I do

2048
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 1: you think that anybody I don't look at him as

2049
01:44:56,320 --> 01:45:00,280
Speaker 1: a dynamic player. You're not as one, is he? Yes,

2050
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:03,679
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards is now productive as a complimentary piece.

2051
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 1: I agree with you. You need better than that, But

2052
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: you want to get better than him as that complimentary piece.

2053
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't think those grow on trees. I'm with Fred.

2054
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 1: Why can't you have that and two guys better than him? Right?

2055
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 1: You want two guys better than him and a guy

2056
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:19,760
Speaker 1: better than him for the third guy? Right, Yeah, because

2057
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: everybody else has it. No they don't, Yeah, they do.

2058
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry the teams that are playing in the playoffs

2059
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 1: killed that they did not have a third guy like

2060
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers. Okay, the guys that are the teams that

2061
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 1: are playing in the playoffs last year, if we do

2062
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 1: a draft of those of those receivers that were on

2063
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 1: those teams outside of maybe Jacksonville, which I think is

2064
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 1: the one caveat that I'll give you, although I actually

2065
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 1: like Christian Kirk a lot outside if we had Jamar

2066
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 1: Chase and Tee Higgins, Jacoby Myers would be even better.

2067
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 1: He'd beat Yeah, he would be. But you're not get

2068
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 1: That's that's the one example of a team that actually

2069
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 1: does have three really good receivers. Yeah, most of them don't.

2070
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 1: The Chiefs certainly didn't, right Chiefs, the Bills didn't. Yeah, right,

2071
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean, I mean, uh, what's what I'm

2072
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 1: gonna say, Um, forty nine ers did they had Well,

2073
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 1: they had a lot of weapons, yeah, you know, I mean,

2074
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 1: but not not just in the wide. And they had

2075
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 1: the tight end it's as you can deeple but they

2076
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 1: didn't have a third guy like I mean, yeah, he's

2077
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 1: comparable to that. It's hard to have any three deep

2078
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 1: that are, like, you know, the best at their position

2079
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. Well, I mean, I'm not asking for

2080
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 1: the best at their position, but I just think you

2081
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 1: can do. I think you can do worst than Jacobe

2082
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 1: Myers as yours your third Well, that's that's what I'm saying.

2083
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 1: If you're better, if you're better than eighty eight hundred

2084
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,680
Speaker 1: and fifty yards at the number three, you're probably one

2085
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 1: of the best number three wide receivers in the league.

2086
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 1: But he wasn't gonna be in number three here, and

2087
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna get eight hundred and fifty yards. If

2088
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 1: you got I understand this, Like his production goes down

2089
01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 1: if you get two guys that are better than him. Yeah,

2090
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 1: but he is very reliable and very durable, right, and

2091
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 1: just I think he worked well with Mac Jones. I don't.

2092
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to lose sleep that they've lost him.

2093
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:11,799
Speaker 1: I'm not. And but it isn't there something that's beset

2094
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 1: about a guy who, if you agree that last year

2095
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:19,600
Speaker 1: was an absolute S show, could still produce. Don't We

2096
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 1: always talk about the good players rise up even in

2097
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 1: bad conditions too. He was a guy that rose up

2098
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 1: even in a bad condition. Ye, I listen, I wish

2099
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 1: we had him. I wish we kept him at eleven

2100
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 1: million dollars. I do. Yeah, and let's get other guys

2101
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 1: that are even better, guys better. And I'm with you, Yeah,

2102
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 1: Like I understand wherever it's coming from. I'm not. This

2103
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 1: is not one of my friend Paul arguments. This is like,

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01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 1: I think Evan has a fear that if you bring

2105
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 1: him back, you're not going to do the things that

2106
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 1: we think that well, that would be a mistake. I'm

2107
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 1: And on top of this, lessens the chances of that

2108
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 1: now now they kind of happened. And on top of that,

2109
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: I still like we can go through all the great offenses.

2110
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 1: But in Patriots history, okay, you know the Oh seven offense,

2111
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 1: the eleven offense, like any offense you want to pick

2112
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: it had Moss, right would be your number one guy.

2113
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 1: Gronk would be your number one guy. Welker and Edelman

2114
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 1: were still a huge part of the offense, right, and

2115
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 1: that would have been Jacobe Myers. He would have been

2116
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 1: the number two receiver here, and his skill set as

2117
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 1: a number two receiver is limited. It's capped. You don't

2118
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 1: have any yak out of him. He's not somebody that's

2119
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:35,679
Speaker 1: twelve yards a catch, and that's that's fine, career high

2120
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 1: and like yards pretty catch, six hippy. Much more than that.

2121
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 1: It's Edelman's career high and yards yards after catch, yards

2122
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 1: after catch, yards per catch. Okay. I don't care if

2123
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 1: it comes before, during, or after the player resulted in

2124
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:51,759
Speaker 1: a game of something. If you're having somebody Myers's plays

2125
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 1: resulted in an average of twelve yards pretty catch, okay.

2126
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 1: But if you're having somebody in the inside of your

2127
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 1: offense running out of the slot, and you're running these

2128
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:01,719
Speaker 1: quick hit routes that that Bill O'Brien has in his offense,

2129
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 1: and every single one of them is nine. You're capped

2130
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 1: at nine ten yards. I need somebody that's going to

2131
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: take that eight yard duke er out and then go

2132
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 1: twenty five yards with it because he breaks that wasn't

2133
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 1: Welker and Edelman they weren't. I disagree they weren't doing that.

2134
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 1: I disagree they weren't doing that a lot. Did they

2135
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:23,599
Speaker 1: do it more often than Myers? Yes? Yeah. I think

2136
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 1: Welker was a sneaky guy to take down. He was

2137
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 1: very sleep and Edlman was great breaking tackles. Yeah, yeah,

2138
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is the average per catch was

2139
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 1: the same. Yeah. I don't care if he has to

2140
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 1: break three tackles to get twelve yards. He got twelve

2141
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 1: yards on average. And with Myers, I agree with Evan.

2142
01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 1: He gave you a no yak. He caught it at

2143
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 1: twelve yards, And like, what if like the play calling

2144
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 1: or whatever was better and you had a little bit

2145
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 1: more room to maneuver once you caught the ball. My

2146
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 1: thing is, what if you actually had other receivers so

2147
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 1: every third down it wasn't just make sure we stopped

2148
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 1: because that's all they got to have, right, Edelman didn't

2149
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:05,479
Speaker 1: have to do that all the time. He did it sometimes, Yeah,

2150
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 1: but he didn't spend his whole career doing that, right

2151
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 1: like Myers has the last three years. Yeah. All. My

2152
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 1: whole bottom line is I just did not watch Kobe

2153
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:14,640
Speaker 1: Myers back here in a high volume roll. That's it.

2154
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:17,560
Speaker 1: And I can understand. I didn't want to targets. And

2155
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 1: I think that even if you go and you get

2156
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, that number two guy in today's NFL is

2157
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 1: still getting one hundred targets. And you're thinking that if

2158
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 1: you give any guy eleven million dollars, you're gonna expect

2159
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 1: him to be high volume. Yeah. Yeah. And just the role,

2160
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 1: the nature of the role that he plays in the offense. Yeah,

2161
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:35,639
Speaker 1: because I know that that Zer role is gonna eat

2162
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 1: up targets because it always has and it always will.

2163
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 1: Brady in Winnipeg says, I have the sneaking suspicion now

2164
01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 1: after the last couple of days of an inactivity that

2165
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 1: Bill and management thought the real problem of last season

2166
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:51,719
Speaker 1: offensively was not weapons and talent, but just the coaching

2167
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 1: of staff. Billy o coming in for Patricia was the

2168
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 1: real big change that needed to happen in their mind,

2169
01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 1: and all the talk we've had about getting a true

2170
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 1: wide receiver one is not a priority to them, it

2171
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:06,640
Speaker 1: is to us fans. I'm willing to hold out for

2172
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 1: a bit here to have them prove me wrong with

2173
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 1: some aggressive signings. But I think I'm of the opinion

2174
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 1: now that it was really just an OC change that

2175
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:19,560
Speaker 1: Bill thought was necessary. But do you move backwards like

2176
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 1: I I'm I'm okay with them letting go Jacoby Myers,

2177
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 1: but you still got to replace Jacoby Myers, and you

2178
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 1: gotta give Bill O'Brien something to work with, Like I mean,

2179
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 1: this is that that you're you're talking like that used

2180
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 1: took a step back from last year's offense, Like you know,

2181
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 1: what does he want? What does he need to run

2182
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 1: his offense? That's that's how I'm silver lining. The silver

2183
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 1: lining that I have about all of this is that

2184
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 1: Billy O's in there and he's saying, I like, Jacoby's

2185
01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 1: a great guy, but for my offense, I need something

2186
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 1: a little bit different than what he brings to the table.

2187
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:50,639
Speaker 1: And if I had to guess, it's that that jitterbug

2188
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:54,240
Speaker 1: quickness in the accability, Right, Jacoby's quick, but he's not

2189
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 1: like in a foam booth quick that I'm not gonna

2190
01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 1: argue there, he's not. He's not that quick guy in

2191
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 1: in small space to catches. Yeah. Also, wait, do we

2192
01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 1: really think that they think it was just bad coaching.

2193
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the coaching situation was different, but um, I

2194
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 1: think it was a mixture of everything, between the lack

2195
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 1: of talent, the lack of discipline, and also the la

2196
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 1: lack of experience coaching. I don't think it's just coaching. Like,

2197
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 1: just hiring Bill O'Brien isn't going to fix everything. It's

2198
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 1: hard to untangle at all. Their ceiling was capped by

2199
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 1: the talent, but their floor was their floor because of

2200
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 1: the coaching. Oh, that was good writing the I like that.

2201
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 1: That's that was good. That was that was that's actually

2202
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 1: that's a Belichick isn't. But I players win games coaches,

2203
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 1: I would agree with you, But I would say that

2204
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:44,600
Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't get to their ceiling because of

2205
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 1: the coaching. I think the players they had on the

2206
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 1: team last year were better than what we saw. Yeah,

2207
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 1: but they were always going to be Like maybe if

2208
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 1: their coach, if they had Josh back, they would have

2209
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 1: been the twelfth best scoring offense in the league or

2210
01:52:57,400 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 1: something like that okay, So they were never going to

2211
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:01,639
Speaker 1: be a top five, top ten offense with the talent

2212
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:03,600
Speaker 1: that they had. The dirty secret is it wasn't a

2213
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 1: great offense the year before either. It just wasn't a

2214
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:10,679
Speaker 1: train wreck like it was, right, That's that's true, Nicholas

2215
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:14,719
Speaker 1: in Oslo, Norway. Does Myers leaving make it more likely

2216
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots go wide receiver in round one? And if so,

2217
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,799
Speaker 1: would the most likely pick b JSN. He could probably

2218
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:25,960
Speaker 1: step right into Myers role in immediately immediately perform at

2219
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 1: a higher level. I mean maybe, but it still seems

2220
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: like fourteen is a bit of a reach there on

2221
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 1: him even but I don't know at this point. I

2222
01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 1: just would take cornerback, wide receiver. I think those are

2223
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 1: the priorities to get. So I'll give you another concern because,

2224
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 1: as you guys know, I tried to be positive earlier

2225
01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:46,400
Speaker 1: in the show, when you guys who proved I'm gonna

2226
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:48,560
Speaker 1: get back to being my New England self and just

2227
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:52,600
Speaker 1: being concerned about everything. So everything is starting around the

2228
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 1: middle of the field. Everything is Billy O'Brien is always dominant.

2229
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 1: So does anybody have any worry about a new guy

2230
01:53:57,680 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 1: coming in and not necessarily transitioning to the offense very quickly.

2231
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean, my hope is that Bill O'Brien has been

2232
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:07,920
Speaker 1: to hoh Houston, he's been to Penn State, he's been

2233
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 1: to Alabama, that he's had enough experienced outside of this system.

2234
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,080
Speaker 1: I won't be blaming Billy O'Brien for it. Well, and

2235
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:16,120
Speaker 1: then you're just but then I blame the receivers who

2236
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:17,840
Speaker 1: haven't been able to pick it up very quickly. I

2237
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:19,720
Speaker 1: mean that's the same thing we go back to. Are

2238
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 1: you worried about them drafting a receiver in the first round?

2239
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:23,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's my point. I think anytime

2240
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 1: you spend a first round pick on anybody, I'm going

2241
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 1: to be worried about it, because at this point, if

2242
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 1: you miss on those picks, it's like I lined Jackson

2243
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigburry and Jacobe Myers and had them do

2244
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of things athletically. I think we'd all agree

2245
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:38,440
Speaker 1: who the more athletic guy is. Yeah, I know that

2246
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 1: Myers knew what he was doing. I don't know that

2247
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 1: the other guy does. But in the same offense. No,

2248
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 1: but their offense is pretty complex for a college offense,

2249
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 1: all right, Quickly I hope you're right. And the one

2250
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: thing that he would have going for them is Ohio

2251
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 1: state wide receivers have been very good quickly. Another chance

2252
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 1: to win a T shirt would close out the show again.

2253
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 1: First person with the correct answer to web radio at

2254
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 1: Patriots dot Com wins. Matt, You're ready. Uh. The question

2255
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 1: is what did Fred say to Ronald Robinson in the

2256
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: sixth grade that caused Ronald Robinson to punch him in

2257
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 1: the jaw? What did Fred say to Ronald Robinson in

2258
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 1: the sixth grade that caused Ronald Robinson to punch him

2259
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 1: in the jaw? Do you think Ronald Robinson's listening right

2260
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 1: now and is going to call him? I don't hash

2261
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 1: this out every once in a while. I don't know

2262
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 1: if you guys do deep dives into like some of

2263
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 1: the emails that come in every once in a while,

2264
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 1: people from Fred's past reach out and connect to you.

2265
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 1: Don't read any of those you just had that happened

2266
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 1: like a month ago? Fred, Did you read that? No

2267
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 1: a winner? What is the winner? Who is it? Cody?

2268
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 1: But he doesn't say where he's from. Cody doesn't say yeah,

2269
01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 1: he got it. The answer is, who's the pussy? Now

2270
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 1: you said that to him and then he punched ye,

2271
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 1: well it's a lie, he said, it's to me. Yeah,

2272
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 1: he called me that a couple weeks earlier, and then

2273
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 1: I called him back and he said, say it again.

2274
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 1: I said it again, and he punched me a little offended. Mike,

2275
01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 1: that's a rejointless and learned. Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't made

2276
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 1: it last week. Cody wins that one. Good job, Cody.

2277
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 1: Good listeners right on top of it. Today. Oh my goodness,

2278
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 1: the emails that come in man that people are listening. Uh.

2279
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 1: Roman from Salzburg, Austria, that's a new emailer. Yeah. First

2280
01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 1: of all, I want to say I'm a long time

2281
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 1: listener and I love your show. Thank you for everything

2282
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 1: you do. You're all awesome. Question, do you have any

2283
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 1: confidence that this team can be competitive when you see

2284
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 1: our opponents this year? And can you say tell me

2285
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 1: why New England is living in the past. Belichick did

2286
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 1: awesome in the past, without question. But he has to

2287
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 1: be fired a long time ago. I guess everywhere else

2288
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 1: he would be gone a long time ago. I don't

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Speaker 1: get it. I don't believe anymore in Bill. Wow, that's

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Speaker 1: Roman in Salzburg Austria. I'm going to respectfully disagree that

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Speaker 1: the guy who won six super Bowl titles would have

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01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 1: been long gone a long time, right right, well in

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01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 1: a bubble. I don't agree with that, like just outside

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01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 1: of Patriots, Like a guy who was there for an

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01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 1: organization twenty years won a bunch of championships. How many

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01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 1: years do you get, like, you know, I mean just

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01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 1: not even Bill, like you know, like that he should

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01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 1: be above reproach and we should not question anything he does.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying other organizations would have fired their guy

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Speaker 1: who won six titles by no after three bats which

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01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 1: one and really two bad seasons out of the three

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Speaker 1: because ten and seven playoffs is fine. It seemed like

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01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 1: you're on the up. Let's do a quick phone call

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Speaker 1: to close out the show. Bruce is in Maine, what's

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Speaker 1: out there? So I guess we can't close out the

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Speaker 1: show with Bruce. But anyway, I just want to say

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Speaker 1: that we had a ton of emails and they're all panic.

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Speaker 1: They're all panicky. Yeah, um, this isn't the first season

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Speaker 1: off season that we've had this situation, you know, But

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Speaker 1: I would just to that, I would say, like we

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Speaker 1: do have to relax it's this is just the tampering

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Speaker 1: period allowed, tampering period, right, Real free agency opens up tomorrow, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but these guys that I know are signed, you're not

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Speaker 1: going to become available tomorrow, and those are all valid.

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Speaker 1: I just think, like I underte him. Yeah, but there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of time. Yeah, and you got to do

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Speaker 1: the show within the moment. And this is what we're feeling.

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Speaker 1: Makes it good? Yeah, well in free agency, but I

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Speaker 1: haven't had his list this trade there was you know,

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Speaker 1: if we were at this point and already and you know,

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins got has already been moved to another team,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the Broncos, you know, Jerry Judy's moved to

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01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 1: another team, and the Patriots weren't those teams. And that's

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Speaker 1: one thing. But we're yeah, there's still players available, and

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Speaker 1: there still moves to be me still shows to be had,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have another one on Thursday. We're not done, please,

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Speaker 1: We're not. Hunter redfro for Myers. Is that like to me?

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Speaker 1: Six one a half dozen the other to you? Was

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01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:02,120
Speaker 1: it a massive upgrade? Mass downgrade? What same thing? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that Spider Man meme, I think six one a half dozen.

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Speaker 1: They all right, So that's it. Paul got the last word.

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Speaker 1: We'll see We'll see you Thursday at noon. Uh. Stay

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Speaker 1: tuned to Patriots dot com for any breaking news. That's

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Speaker 1: something happens tomorrow, that's crazy. Maybe we'll have an emergency podcast.

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