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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Orchard Park, to new era field, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to one Bills Live from our one Buffalo studio in

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Speaker 1: Orchard Park. John Murphy back. Steve Tasker is back back

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Speaker 1: here for four days of broadcasting this week and a

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Speaker 1: get ready for training camp. Hello, Bunny, how are you? Man?

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Speaker 1: Walked back in the saddle. When I walked in today

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Speaker 1: I'm the old three full weeks at least, and then yeah,

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Speaker 1: You and I took shots about being off on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Somebody tweeted in I can't find it here because it

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Speaker 1: here it is Leslie. Eric. Did Murph give up hosting

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Speaker 1: I'm here. Somebody took a shot at you and said

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Speaker 1: the offensive lying departures, some of the others who have

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Speaker 1: left this team, and Tyrone obviously he's part of that.

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Speaker 1: And if you're on the outside looking in, you think, oh,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo lost a lot, I don't know, can they get

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Speaker 1: to nine wins? And I tell people, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get seven, eight, nine wins somewhere in that neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of it is because not just talent,

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Speaker 1: but the intangibles that Sean McDermott provides, the standard that

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Speaker 1: he's set, the type of player they've brought in, the

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Speaker 1: work ethic that has expected. I credit Sean for that,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I think it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: lot more interesting season than many people believe for the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. I agree completely. And it's and we kind

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Speaker 1: of reflected that in our Twitter question of the day,

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Speaker 1: and it's we struggled when when when you were gone?

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Speaker 1: Murphall admit we struggled in our Twitter polls because they

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Speaker 1: were all lopsided runaway victories, which is the bane of

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Speaker 1: my existence. But but we put it out there. One

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Speaker 1: of the things we had some success with was, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the things, what are the people like or

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Speaker 1: what are their best memories about training camp? We got

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Speaker 1: a lot of responses, so we kind of went back

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Speaker 1: to that today and we asked him what's the best

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Speaker 1: part about Buffalo Bills training camp for a fan and

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Speaker 1: whine If you let us know, we're gonna use your

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Speaker 1: responses on the air. What's the best part about Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills training camp? And why do you think that? Way,

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Speaker 1: you can give us a call and we'll get your

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Speaker 1: response on the air. We already got a ton of

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Speaker 1: people calling in or texting and tweeting in about why

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Speaker 1: they like training camping and from Bills and Mets fans,

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Speaker 1: he says, I love to be with all the other

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Speaker 1: Bills fans were like a big family, and the closeness

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Speaker 1: to the action is great. I'll be there for three

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Speaker 1: days at the start of camp this year. Wait, it's

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Speaker 1: the start of football for me. But the best part

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Speaker 1: is saying hey to Murph. So not only not only

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Speaker 1: do they get not only do they get to rub

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Speaker 1: up against the fans, they get to say hi to

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Speaker 1: to big stars like Murph. Yeah. But that's the truth.

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Speaker 1: And that's one of the things. And I know maybe

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Speaker 1: other fan bases get this. I'm sure there are a

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Speaker 1: couple of them who do. But I think more so

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Speaker 1: than anything, one of the things that overrode the Bills

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Speaker 1: run to the playoffs last year was when the when

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Speaker 1: the national I started turning towards Bills fans and Bills

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Speaker 1: Mafia and the Bills mania and the and the Bill's

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Speaker 1: kingdom was how close and how close knit the fans are.

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Speaker 1: They're really friendly with each other. There's an yeah uh.

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Speaker 1: They reach out to each other like no other fan base.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was some of the stuff coming out

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Speaker 1: of Jacksonville last year for that playoff game the night

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Speaker 1: before where they completely drank the hotel out of beer.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy they wouldn't leave I witness some

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Speaker 1: of that drank them out of beer, But I did

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Speaker 1: see some of that call it was I think Bills fans,

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Speaker 1: I think, more so than the other fan base, take

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Speaker 1: great pride in the fact that a Bills fan from

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Speaker 1: Maine can be embraced and welcomed into a tailgate by

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Speaker 1: Bills fans from Florida. Yeah, I think you're right. I

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Speaker 1: think you're right. I think that's one of the cool

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Speaker 1: things about And that's one of the things about Training

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Speaker 1: Camp two that comes through when you see Bills fans

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Speaker 1: from all over they come in and they kind of

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Speaker 1: hang out together. So we're two and a half weeks

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Speaker 1: away from the first practice of training camp. No Bills

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Speaker 1: here today, I mean there are a couple of players,

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Speaker 1: but not really any formal organized activity. But or it's

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks away, and as we approach training camp,

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Speaker 1: and of course we'll be doing the show down there

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Speaker 1: at training camp, they got what eight or ten days

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Speaker 1: show days. Whenever they're ye, whenever they're open practicing and

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Speaker 1: the public is invited, we boom, we're there doing our

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Speaker 1: show coming up again this year. But we want to

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Speaker 1: know from you on our Twitter poll or on the

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Speaker 1: telephone line. What's the best part about Bill's training camp

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Speaker 1: for a fan? And why give us a call eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifteen lines are open. We're

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Speaker 1: doing on Twitter. Steve just said, is Bills and Mets

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Speaker 1: fans said at One Bill's Life the best part about

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Speaker 1: training camp for a fan? You know, here's one thing, Steve,

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Speaker 1: we sort of take this for granted because of the

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Speaker 1: Bills moving off site and opening up things at Saint

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Speaker 1: John Fisher College again for what the eighteenth consecutive year,

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Speaker 1: there is a fan element to Bills training camp that

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Speaker 1: does not exist now. And what more than half of

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Speaker 1: the NFL outposts. I think the count last year was

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Speaker 1: more than twenty NFL teams. I think it was about twenty,

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Speaker 1: leaving twelve teams who do not go off site. But

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Speaker 1: because the Bills go off site and because they opened

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Speaker 1: up training camp again this year for the eighteenth consecutive

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Speaker 1: year in Rochester, there is a fan component. If you

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Speaker 1: were a team that did not go off site there,

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Speaker 1: this question wouldn't exist. What's the best part about training

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Speaker 1: camp for a fan? If your team does not open

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Speaker 1: it up and go off site. Well, there wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: anything good about it. There wouldn't be anything there for you.

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Speaker 1: And I think we should appreciate that. I love the

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Speaker 1: fact that the Bills do it. I love the fact

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Speaker 1: that the fans. I mean, you can see it out there.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of a reunion many times for fans. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot going on at training camp, which and I

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Speaker 1: don't just mean the games out there for kids and

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Speaker 1: you know, watching practice, there's just a lot of there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts to build training camp. And

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Speaker 1: that's what we want you to think about as you

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Speaker 1: get ready for two and a half weeks away. You

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Speaker 1: go out there and you get the weather's fantastic. Almost

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Speaker 1: always fan once a while they get rained out or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but it's almost always sunny, hot and warm. It's beautiful,

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Speaker 1: and there's really a festival atmosphere. You know, it's not

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Speaker 1: it is a football training camp, but for fans it's

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Speaker 1: really it really is kind of a fan festival. It's

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Speaker 1: a football theme park exactly. They got all this stuff

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Speaker 1: going on at one end of the field and at

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Speaker 1: one end of the state where the blow up things

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Speaker 1: where the kids can go and bounce around on that stuff,

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Speaker 1: and they've got the fans are I mean, you're standing

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Speaker 1: like thirty feet from where the actions going on training camp,

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Speaker 1: and it's something that doesn't happen everywhere, and it's certainly

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Speaker 1: once you get into the league, into the into the

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Speaker 1: further and further into the season. And that's one of

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Speaker 1: the things that shocked me when I when I left

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Speaker 1: the game was how remove the fans are on game

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Speaker 1: day from what goes on. I mean, as I was always,

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Speaker 1: you drive in, you go down and you park down

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Speaker 1: in the tunnel lot there, and you kind of go

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Speaker 1: into the stadium and you're in the locker room with

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Speaker 1: all these guys that are all the you know, the

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Speaker 1: coaches and players, and you're you're kind of the focal

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Speaker 1: point of the day. You walk out on the field

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Speaker 1: and you play this game in front of you know,

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Speaker 1: seventy five thousand people, and you leave and you go

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Speaker 1: you get your family and you leave the stadium. But

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Speaker 1: when I when I first got out, I got a

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Speaker 1: chance to walk around and experience it from a fans

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Speaker 1: point of view, and it's I was shocked at how

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Speaker 1: far away the players and coaches and all that stuff

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Speaker 1: that's going on. The locker room is from there. The

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Speaker 1: fans don't care about all that stuff. They're out there

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Speaker 1: to have fun. They're out there barbecue and they're doing

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Speaker 1: their own thing. It's so different at training camp because

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Speaker 1: now you do get a chance to see those guys

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Speaker 1: and hear their conversations on the sideline and watch them

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Speaker 1: laugh and joke on the sidelines at training camp, and

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Speaker 1: you get to see him have a fight with you know,

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Speaker 1: you got to get to see the training camp fights

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Speaker 1: and the scuffles and the coaches interacting with him. You

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Speaker 1: get to watch them practice us in a way that

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Speaker 1: is totally behind the curtain, so to speak. And that's

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Speaker 1: I think really interesting for fans who may have only

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Speaker 1: ever been to a game where the you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: you never get within one hundred and fifty yards of

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Speaker 1: these guys if you if you're up the upper deck,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you never get to see him that close.

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Speaker 1: A tweet on this from our tweet sheet that very

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Speaker 1: issue from Tiffany Daniels. Why this team is so special

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Speaker 1: is the willingness of players to stop and say a

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Speaker 1: little to the fans, take pictures and sign autographs, especially

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Speaker 1: for the young Bills fans. We look forward to training

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Speaker 1: camp every summer. The access that fans have two players

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Speaker 1: at training camp is exactly what you just talked about, Steve.

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Speaker 1: You don't see that a lot of and a lot

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Speaker 1: of other NFL towns. You really don't see it much

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Speaker 1: the rest of the year. I mean, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: do that on game day here in Buffalo. But at

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Speaker 1: training camp there's always a group of players who will

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Speaker 1: sign after practice. There's an autograph tent that's opened virtually

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Speaker 1: every day at practice, and it's informal to the interaction.

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Speaker 1: You know, you you yell out to the field, hey

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen looking good, you know, and they'll sometimes turn

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Speaker 1: around and respond. There as close as you'll be two players.

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Speaker 1: I also say to people at Grounie Stadium when they

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Speaker 1: practice inside the stadium where Fisher plays, and those fans are,

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Speaker 1: you know, eight to ten feet away from the sideline,

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Speaker 1: you can you can have a conversation with the Bills

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Speaker 1: player right there. You know they can hear. It's the

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Speaker 1: only And this from Robin Monday, this is interesting, he said,

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Speaker 1: training camps the only chance many fans have to meet

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Speaker 1: players and watch practice up close. It's extra special for

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Speaker 1: fans who travel long distances to get their bills fixed.

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Speaker 1: Then a lot of people come in from out of

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Speaker 1: town for bills games. She's this will be my fifth

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Speaker 1: trip to training camp from Wyoming. I'll be watching our

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Speaker 1: homies Yarborough and Allen this year, the two guys from Wyoming.

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Speaker 1: So this is from she travels in from Wyoming or

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Speaker 1: he does he or she travels in from Wyoming just

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Speaker 1: for training camp. Yeah, I mean it's the best. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing. Why to hear you, what's the best part

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Speaker 1: of training camp for a fan? Full Nine's open on

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Speaker 1: that topic eight three fifty, or you can do it

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at one Bills Live. Let us know what

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Speaker 1: you think. We'll talk about that a couple of tweets.

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Speaker 1: I want to mention before we get to the break

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Speaker 1: here Steve and people talking about we talked a lot

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Speaker 1: about this first segment about our vacations and Reservoir Creek,

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Speaker 1: the golf course in Naples. Yeah, j W Sax, John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: you've got to play Reservoir Creek or Bristol Harbor in

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Speaker 1: the fall. Yeah, I've done both, love them both. And

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Speaker 1: then Steve n Irie John, how was Reservoir Creek. A

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Speaker 1: bunch of us are playing there next month. We haven't

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Speaker 1: played it before. It's great. Mike Griffin is the pro.

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Speaker 1: He took care of our group. Our group is not

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Speaker 1: easy to take care of. What kind of group, what

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Speaker 1: kind of all guys? What kind of course? What kind

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Speaker 1: of course? I'll show you a race course or is

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Speaker 1: it like, is it a hilly, hilly, wooded, forested beautiful?

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Speaker 1: It's amazing, it's amazing. It's not you know, you're you're

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Speaker 1: a big country club guy, and it's not you know,

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Speaker 1: and I'm five nine, I'm not that big. Yeah, But

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Speaker 1: at Reservoir Creek, I'll show you during the break. Just

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Speaker 1: a great place, great views. Mike Griffin, the pro is

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Speaker 1: fantasi in Naples, New York. Bottom end of Cannon dig Will,

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Speaker 1: Reservoir Creek. It's hard to say Reservoir Creek Creek. It's

639
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: hard for a kid from Kansas. A break here, we'll talk.

640
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: We'll talk about vacations more if you like. When we return,

641
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: we can talk about training camp. Steve's got some things

642
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: to talk about as far as defenses in the AFC East.

643
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: We'll get into that when we return as well. We're

644
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: back it feels good to be back, then feel good. Yeah,

645
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: I feel like we I missed it. I missed being here.

646
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: I told you guys, if I didn't come in today,

647
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: he might never I've never come back. I mean time

648
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: about to make missing one workout. If you workout every day,

649
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: you're like, he missed one. It's like, wow, this is

650
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: nice not to go Yeah, I was getting it. I

651
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: was two weeks in and I'm saying, if you don't

652
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: go back Monday, then just forget about it. It's old,

653
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: but it's not over. We're back here for now until three.

654
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: We got to Will Brinson from CBS Sports dot Com

655
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: coming up A two, a lot more to talk about

656
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: with you. Bon Nine's open eight oh three oh five

657
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

658
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: five fifty. Steve and I are here One Bill's Live

659
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

660
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 1: Welcome back at One Bill's Live. We're just getting settled

661
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: in where we've been. We've been gone for so long

662
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: we had we're still catching up with the crew out back.

663
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: So we took a break, went in this to the

664
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: control room and uh trying to catch up on what

665
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: everybody else did on their vacation. We didn't have all

666
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: the fun. We had most of it, but not all

667
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: of it. Yet everybody had much of it. Everybody had fun.

668
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: We traveled a little bit last week. It's important. By

669
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: the way, there were again it's Twitter, you expect negativity.

670
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: A couple of people said, well, why they don't they

671
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: want to talk about bills. Look, it's the time of

672
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: year with nothing going on, and we have a whole

673
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: crew in the other room that needs time off. We

674
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: all need to get away again. It was great for everybody.

675
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: We can't. They can't live with us like that. I'm

676
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: not that long. We can't be stood for that long

677
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: by anybody. That's true. That's the other thing. I can't

678
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: keep talking about stuff when nothing's going on. What's the

679
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: best part about training camp two and a half weeks away?

680
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: Give us a call, let us know what you think.

681
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: Eight oh three oh five fifty toll free one eight

682
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty or on Twitter

683
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: at one Bill's Live. The best part from a fans

684
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: perspective about training camp, we're not talking about you know.

685
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: They get to work on two minute drill, they get

686
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: to work on red zone. No. From a fans perspective,

687
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: what's the best part about training camp? Did you read

688
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: this from Robin Mundy this twitter? I might have a a

689
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: hold on Yes, I read that. I'm going to read

690
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Scott mckinnis on the tweet sheet. The best part about

691
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: training camp from a fans perspective, the chance to actually

692
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: have conversations and interact with the players. You always think

693
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: of them as unapproachable or distant from the fans, but

694
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: training camp is the opportunity to be up close and personal.

695
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely right, Scott, You're right, that's what it's about, you know,

696
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: player and players are like you and me and everybody

697
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: when you go to work. Some days you have good days,

698
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: some days you have bad days. Most days you're polite

699
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: to people most time. And again, appreciate the fact that

700
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Speaker 1: these players in that three and a half week of

701
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: training camp period, there are many of them fighting for

702
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: their professional lives, so there is pressure. I think sometimes

703
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: players enjoy the opportunity to talk with fans and to

704
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: get away from thinking about I gotta get to this

705
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: next meeting, I gotta work on this, I gotta work

706
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: on that. Coach gave me a dirty look when I

707
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: dropped that bass, right. I think most players like, oh,

708
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get away for five minutes here and

709
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: talk to a couple, particularly particularly early in training camp,

710
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: when the guys come in, they're all fresh legged, and

711
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: they're enthusiastic about being a training camp and they know

712
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: to like the fans know. The players are kind of

713
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: ready for the fact that the fans are going to

714
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: be right there all the time, and they're kind of

715
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: they're kind of prepared for it. So there when you

716
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: talk to him, they're like, hey, what's going on? You know?

717
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: There when he gives you a chance to see their

718
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: personality not and it's interesting to me. And this is

719
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: one of the things I kind of look for when

720
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: I was doing when I'm doing my job for CBS

721
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: and as a journal I'm not really a journalist him,

722
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: but whatever. When I watched training camp, it's the when

723
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: you see these guys practice and interact and why them

724
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: from a distance, you get an idea of what their

725
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: personality is. Even if you don't get a chance to

726
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: talk to them, you find out like, like you go

727
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 1: out there and talking. You watch Kyle Williams, he talks

728
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: all the time. He's always having a conversation with somebody.

729
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: He's either with his teammates, with his linemates, with his position, coach,

730
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: with another player, whatever. He's got to be talking to

731
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: somebody all the time. That's what I notice about him.

732
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: And then you'll find other guys they don't. They're off

733
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: by them, so they're watching things by themselves. They stand

734
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: by themselves. They don't talk to any you know what

735
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,239
Speaker 1: I mean, And they talk when they're spoken to. And

736
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: sometimes it's a young player that does that, sometimes it's

737
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: a veteran player. But you get a chance to see

738
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: him interact with guys, and you get a chance to

739
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: see what kind of human being they are and what

740
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: kind of the personality traits they have just by watching them,

741
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: because you can isolate on them and you know they're in.

742
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: They're in the field, they're in the game, they're out,

743
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: they're in, they're out, they're in. So they eat a

744
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: chance to see him come on and off the field

745
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: and watch them what they do when they come off

746
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: where they had a good play or a bad play.

747
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: You get to see them react to their own play.

748
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: When they have a good play, how they react to

749
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: it and what it happens. And then you know when

750
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: they make a mistake or whatever, maybe even don't even

751
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: see it, but you'll see their reaction to it. Is Yeah,

752
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: it's really interesting to get it because you can watch

753
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: their personality affect the way they are when nobody's watching.

754
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: A tweet from Robin Munday who asks does every practice

755
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: require tickets? If so, I need too for Tuesday August

756
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: seventh morning practice, the answer is no. August seventh is

757
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: an unticketed practice, eight forty five am practice. It is

758
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: one Buffalo day, but no ticket required that day. If

759
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: you have questions like that, the easiest thing to do

760
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: is to go to our website Buffalo bills dot com

761
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: and then it'll tell you which what time practice is

762
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: a training camp, which ones are open, It'll tell you

763
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: which ones you need a ticket for, and all of

764
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: that information is up on our website Buffalo bills dot com.

765
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: And there's the old thing and wondering Jack tweets any

766
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: and I've never had much luck getting autographs at Fisher,

767
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: but for me, the best part is getting to watch

768
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: the training camp battles up close, get access to what

769
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: we as fans can't see on a daily basis during

770
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: the season. I can't I can't wait to watch the

771
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: wide Receiver battle play out on me as hashtag rally

772
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 1: round Riley obviously pulling for Brandon Riley in the wide

773
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: Receiver battle. But that's one of the things too, And

774
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 1: it's interesting for most people. You don't get this when

775
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: you're in a group and I've been through this a ton.

776
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: You're like I was a wide receiver trying to make

777
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: the team. And it's an interesting dynamic because the guys

778
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: you're in the battle with on a certain level, not

779
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: even a certain level, at every level, they become friends

780
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: and you're you want them to play well, and you

781
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: want to play well and you want to make the team,

782
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: but that means they're not going to make the team.

783
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: So you're in this kind of battle with some guys

784
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: you really respect as players and as human beings. Have

785
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: become kind of um, you know, friend foster friendship. Yeah,

786
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 1: you're not just sitting in a meeting room. You're practicing.

787
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: You're kind of suffering together too, and you're watching them

788
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: and you're getting coached up together, and you're getting you

789
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: you're eating together, and you talk together and you talk

790
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: about things in the meeting room together with your position coach,

791
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: and you're part of a conversation that they're part of

792
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: with the same coaching. You kind of like them. You

793
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: can see why they've become a professional football player, just

794
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: like they can see it about you. So you're in

795
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: this competition at the same time wishing the best, at

796
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: least on the way I felt, you're wishing the best

797
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: for the guys around you, while knowing that if if

798
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: the best happens for them, it's the worst thing for you,

799
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: and and you kind of hope they reciprocate that because

800
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: you want you know, you want to make the team,

801
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: but you want to make it because you're a good player,

802
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: not because something bad happens to them. And it's this

803
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: balancing act that you have to go through that it's

804
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: it's a it's a weird dynamic because you do have

805
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: to invest so much of yourself physically and emotionally into

806
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: trying to make the team, but at the same time,

807
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: you're with guys that you really have a lot of

808
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: respect for as players and as human beings and hoping

809
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: the best for them as well. And it's not to

810
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: work out well for all of you. That's one thing,

811
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: and it's worth mentioning, and I don't mention it enough

812
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: I used to. I think the one thing that it

813
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: never fails to impress me at training camp, Steve, is

814
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: how accomplished every single player there is. The ninety players

815
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: who are there are among the best in their craft

816
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: in the world. They're not gonna make it, all of them,

817
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: as you point out in A forty seven the thirty

818
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: seven them are not gonna make it. And yet when

819
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: you're at training camp, you see how conditioned they are,

820
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: how hard they're working, how much it matters to them,

821
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: and when you look at their background, their resume and

822
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: see how much they've accomplished. I can't help, and I've

823
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: been around it for a while, but I cannot help

824
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: even to this day to be impressed. I never go

825
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: there and think, who's that guy he's got no, No,

826
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm usually like, wow, that guy from really yeah. And

827
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: I go there every year and say the same thing.

828
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: And you know that they're not all gonna make it,

829
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: and they know they're not all gonna make it, and

830
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: yet it's it's to me that's one of the best

831
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: parts of being a training camp, not as a fan,

832
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: but as an observer. Knowing that these are the best

833
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: of the best, the best at their profile in the world,

834
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: and that they're trying. They're as hard as they can,

835
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: working as hard as they can most of the Yeah,

836
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: and I remember being one of those guys where you know,

837
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: I have never really passed that eye test. You know,

838
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: when he looked at me, he didn't think, Wow, there's

839
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: a pro athlete. You know. I was kind of one

840
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: of those guys they go why why he wondered what

841
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: he's from or what he's doing right, And it's interesting

842
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: those things that you see, Like you said, you see

843
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: these guys work hard and how good to shape they're in,

844
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: but what you don't see is the human being behind it.

845
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: Which training camp kind of gives you a glimpse into

846
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: these guys have got and you'll see it too. Some

847
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: of the players, you know, their wives and kids will

848
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: be there, but their moms and dads will be there

849
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: because some of these young players are think about Tremaine Edmunds,

850
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Speaker 1: he's twenty. Yeah, you know his mom and dad he

851
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: was he's living at home, his mom and dad. He's

852
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: a college kid. His mom and dad may be there.

853
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: He may have some sibling or you know, his siblings

854
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: is there in the league too, but you know they're

855
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: going to be there, and he's he's working towards a

856
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: dream that his father a come. It's something that his

857
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: family is part, a big part of his family history.

858
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: His dad was a great tight end for the Dolphins

859
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: I played against. I think he played with his dad

860
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: in a Pro Bowl once. So this is part of

861
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Speaker 1: his family heritage of being a part of a group

862
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: like this. And you've got and then you've got guys

863
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: who are just you know, coming in like Robert Foster

864
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: who was a walk on, was playing flag football and

865
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: his dad said, why an't you trying? His dad passed

866
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: and now he's here trying to make it as a

867
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Speaker 1: pro football player and all the pressure he's putting on

868
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: himself to try and get there, and it's it's a

869
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: human drama. And that's why that's why Hard Knocks is

870
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: such a huge hit man. It is an unbelievable human

871
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: drama with guys who are as good as they can

872
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: possibly be trying to make it in the league where

873
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: you've got to be that type of guy in person

874
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: an athlete to get in the door. And it's a

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00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable television to see it and to and to

876
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: go out there and witness all this stuff. It's pretty amazing.

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00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: Let's take your call off from Sterling in Dayton. Sterling, Dayton,

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Speaker 1: New York, Dayton, Ohio. Where you're calling from day Ohio, Ohio.

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00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: Thanks you girl by Dayton yesterday on my way home.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. Well, first of all, I just want to

881
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: tell y'all missed y'all. Guys. Man, it was it was

882
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: a hard week. Pass good job on the radio station though,

883
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: but it was just a hard week y'all. Y'all just

884
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: bring something that y'all bring smiles to my faces. I'm glad,

885
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: thanks Sterling. First thing. The second thing is, uh, Steve,

886
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: I want you to know, my man, I am drinking

887
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: all the kool aid on this sugg here you go

888
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: there is There is nothing uh bad that I could

889
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: say about this team. Uh Sean and McDermott. Seems like

890
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: they got a firm grasp on the Buffalo bills man,

891
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: and I haven't felt that feeling in years. Um and uh,

892
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: I just want to tell y'all missed y'all, and go Buffalo.

893
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: Thanks Sterling. And I you're right, I mean it is

894
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: early and Sterling, you can be one of the first

895
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: uh in line at the kool Aid counter, because, um,

896
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean I've been I've I've been that way. And

897
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: I was laughing early on when I got here first

898
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: came on the show. I was trying to You're telling Murph,

899
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: you know you got you got to Murphy, you got here,

900
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: and Murph is as I think, it gets tired of

901
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: being sometimes the voice of reason and logic. Me I

902
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: am totally like head over heel's reactionary every day. So

903
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's the best thing in the world, or

904
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's the end of the world as we

905
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: know it. But you know, I'm with you, Uh, I

906
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: think this is the plan they have in place, those

907
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: things they're doing. I am all in, you know, I

908
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: am sitting in a hot tub of kool aid right now,

909
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: And UM, I love I mean, I'm really I am Sterling.

910
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: I am I And I appreciate Sterling calling in because

911
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: it's true. I mean, that's it's something. Um, for a

912
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: long time, it's been hard. You know, they were selling

913
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: hope here for a long time through you know, nineteen

914
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: ninety eight through twenty seventeen. Uh, it was you know,

915
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of hope the people, and it just

916
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: doesn't taste as good as the koupl aid they're putting out. Now.

917
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: I see that, and I'd also see that. I'd see again.

918
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: Spend a lot of time talking to Bills fans, fans,

919
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: family members, even strangers over the last few weeks, and

920
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: the one thing I noticed to see is the for

921
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: many of them, there's a realistic appreciation of where this

922
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: team is. So the seventeen year playoff drought ended in

923
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: spectacular fashion last January first, December thirty first, obviously, but

924
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: most Bills fans are not saying, Okay, that's it, next

925
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: up super Bowl? Now. Most Bills fans are Okay, glad

926
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: that's behind us. Now we got the right coaching staff

927
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: in place, and the beginnings of the right roster and

928
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: the and the right mix of the type of players

929
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: we want. In other words, I sense that most Bills

930
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: fans have a realistic appreciation of where the team is at,

931
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: what's out there, the chance to continue to be good,

932
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: including maybe another playoff spot this year. Maybe not, but

933
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: nobody's flipping out like we did it. We made the playoffs.

934
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: Next up super Bowl? No, I see most those fans

935
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: have a kind of a sober, realistic appreciation for what

936
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: was done last year and the groundwork that's been laid,

937
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: the foundation that's been laid, and they're looking forward to

938
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: building down that. Yeah, and there's no question because even

939
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: a guy like me, who is I am like Oscar optimist.

940
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm always seeing everything like that I did

941
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: as a player, I do it as a as a fan,

942
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: and as even as a broadcaster on the same way.

943
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: But because the thing that tempers what this team went

944
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: through last year, there's no question they overachieved. And that's

945
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: the thing that's one of the reasons why I'm so optimistic.

946
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: This is a coaching staff and a program that got

947
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: a less talented team to overachieve to a point last

948
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: year where they got the playoffs, someplace where all the

949
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: talent they had over the course of the last decade

950
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: and a half or seventeen years, they'd never got to

951
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: that point. And this is a coaching staff and a

952
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: program that got less talent further than ever before, which

953
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: is why I think, you know, more talent this year

954
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: means if they overachieve, they're going to get even further.

955
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: So the thing that tempers all of that is the

956
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: fact that, like every other fan base, and Buffalo maybe

957
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: more so than any other, so much can go wrong.

958
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen it so many times, and not

959
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: just here in Buffalo for the Bills, but for all

960
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: these other teams that had everything go in format and

961
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden something goes wrong and it's one,

962
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: it could be a small thing, but the ripple effect

963
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: shocks of roster and whatever, and so it's more than anything.

964
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: And I heard it said by George Seyffert, nobody knows

965
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: how hard it is to win in this league until

966
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: you've been in it, and we've all seen it. But

967
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: it's hard to win games. And it's and the sad

968
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: part about this Koople that I'm swilling down is that

969
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 1: is that this could be a much better football team

970
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen than it was in twenty seventeen when

971
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: they got into the playoffs. It could be a much

972
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: better football team, and it could win fewer games just

973
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: the way the game is. That's the way it is.

974
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: It's the way that it could poss It could happen

975
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: that way. I don't think it will. It doesn't. It

976
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: sometimes doesn't. Better teams usually win more games than they lose.

977
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: But let's face it, man, they got away with some

978
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: things last year that it took some great breaks to

979
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: get to get with to get them there. And if

980
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: those breaks don't happen for him, they get bad breaks

981
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: instead of good breaks. There, you know, they could win

982
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 1: fewer games. There's an interesting question from a listener viewer

983
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: on Twitter that I want you to think about during

984
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: the break, Steve, would you do this for me? All right?

985
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: Number one Bills fan tweets and I have a question.

986
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: Maybe you can answer. What is going on with Josh

987
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: Allen's contract? Why is he not signed yet? Do you

988
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: see this becoming an issue during training camp? Let's think

989
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: about that and talk about that when we come back

990
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: a break. Here, Steve is with us One Bill's Live,

991
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: presented by Collat of Health. We're coming here from One

992
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio, One Bill's Live.

993
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steep Tasker. Back back in the saddle. These

994
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: aren't really saddles, but we're back at work. Yeah, for

995
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: a couple of days. Friday off. Now, don't get mad

996
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: at this. Friday is ah, you know what Friday no show?

997
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 1: This Friday no show. Not out of here. I'm Friday

998
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: doing it. I'm just like I'm taking more time off. Yeah. No,

999
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: it's a property with the hammering company White thing. Friday's

1000
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: working so hard. So I asked you going to break

1001
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: about Josh Allen's contract. I'll confess I thought about that

1002
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: getting ready for the show coming in over the weekend.

1003
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: I thought that's gonna come up, and um, there's nothing

1004
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: to report, and I have to believe. See, there's no

1005
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 1: issue with the fact that Josh doesn't have a contract yet.

1006
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: These contracts are slotted in based on your draft position

1007
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: and your position if you're the seventh overall pick and

1008
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: you're a quarterback, you have a sense of the kind

1009
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: of money you're gonna make. A lot of it deals

1010
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: with the negotiation, with how that money is structured. And

1011
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: of course it was what was it last year, Bosa

1012
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: or who was it last year, Joey Bosa? Yeah, who

1013
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: missed some time. But I don't think it's going to

1014
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: be a problem for Josh Allen. I ain't think eventually,

1015
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: in the next two and a half weeks he's going

1016
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: to get his contract and be ready to go for

1017
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: training camp. You agree, Yeah, I do. I don't think

1018
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: it's an issue because it you know what, because you

1019
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: would hear about the acrimony from Josh Allen's agent. His

1020
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: representation would probably leak it out and say, listen, things

1021
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: aren't going well. Pressure. They would put pressure on him

1022
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: and and there's nothing going on like that. Unless you know,

1023
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: you can always be the conspiracy theorists and say the

1024
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: bills are deliberately stalling them so that he has to

1025
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: hold out for a couple of days, and they can

1026
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: use those couple of days as a reason not to

1027
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: start him. You know, they make sure he's looking so good.

1028
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: They don't want to that's not happening. They're not doing that.

1029
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: It's not a conspiracy. They're just they're gonna get it

1030
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: done and he'll come in and they'll they'll they'll be

1031
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: off to the races. But yeah, there's it's complicated a

1032
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: little bit complicated for quarterback first round quarterbacks. And I

1033
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: don't even know are all those other quarterbacks signed, I believe,

1034
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, well that you know, then that's a

1035
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: good question. Then you know, you'd like to know what's

1036
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: going on with it. I'd like to know, but I'm

1037
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: not worried about it. Bosa was two years Ago signed

1038
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: to August twenty ninth, so he missed some training essentially

1039
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: all the training camp didn't seem to hurt him much.

1040
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: He's a pretty good player, has been for a couple

1041
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: of years, and they were dealing back then with how

1042
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: the guarantees were structured. I don't I have not heard

1043
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: anything about Josh Allen Evan issues with the structure of

1044
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: his contract. But that's typically what it comes down to you.

1045
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't have the number in front of me, but

1046
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: you can you can tell right now how much money

1047
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: he's going to be paid. I mean, that's easy to

1048
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: look up. It's a lot. It'll be okay for Josh. Yeah,

1049
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's gonna be a problem. I

1050
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: don't at all. Hey, we're gonna talk more about this

1051
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: in the next hour, Steve. We've got got a guest

1052
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: coming up, Will Brinson at two o'clock from TBA Sports

1053
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: dot Com. But you came across and just preview for us,

1054
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: and we'll start the next hour with this if you

1055
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: would about defense in the AFC East. Yeah, and the

1056
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: buff And this is one of the Buffalo Rumblings articles,

1057
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Speaker 1: and it's which team in the AFC East has the

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Speaker 1: best defense, and when you read it, you're right. I

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00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: think it is the Buffalo Bills. Their secondary is better

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00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,959
Speaker 1: than any secondary in the division for sure, maybe even

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00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: in the conference in the AFC, and the additions they

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00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: made to their front seven gives them the ability to say,

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00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: you know what, our secondary is gonna hold up even

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00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: better because they're gonna get more pressure on the passer.

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Speaker 1: Last year they did that with They went to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs last year with a very with a poor run

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00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: defense and a poor pass rush, and upgraded that tremendously

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Speaker 1: with the addition of four guys. One Tremaine Edmonds, two

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Speaker 1: Starlo tu Lelay, three is Trent Murphy, and the fourth

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Speaker 1: one is Harrison Phillips. They've got some guys that are

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Speaker 1: gonna bolst to the front seven to make it even

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00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: easier on a secondary that was phenomenal last year. It

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00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: might have been I thought the secondary was the engine

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00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: of the entire team last year. And so and you

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Speaker 1: look that and compare that with what happened in the

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00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: AFCAS and gives you an example real quick. Miami Dolphins,

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00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: they lost in Dominican sue. They've got Cam Wake still

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00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: and they drafted Minka Fitzpatrick. You know what Kiko Alonso goes. Okay, Yeah,

1079
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: he's a journeyman. It's his third NFL team. He was

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00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: traded straight across and left the team that he was

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00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: traded to. And now you know, Keiko is a good athlete,

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00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: he's a good player, but he's not a top flight

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00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: inside linebacker for the in the NFL. Do the Bills

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00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: have a top flight inside linebacker? I think they drafted

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00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: they think they do. We're gonna talk more about this

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00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: because listen, I'm telling you the only issue I have

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00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: with the Buffalo defense is not much. But you're telling me,

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00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: would you telling your linebackers are a question mark for

1089
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: this team? Would you rather have potential? He hasn't done

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00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: anything yet bring a physical ability. Cannot he could run

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00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: circles around Kiko alon Clearly we have something to discuss.

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00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: We're here for an hour and he's already listen and

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00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: I'm but I'm going along with this. I really think

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00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills have done more for their defense than

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00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: certainly certainly the Miami Dolphins. The Miami Dolphins are not

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00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: going to get better losing in Dominican sue on the

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00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: inside and the new York Jets Secondary. Pretty good for

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00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: the Jets. They've invented. Well, let's let's save some of

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00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: this because we got another hour to go. All right,

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00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: the afcast defensive. Who's on top? We'll take your calls

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00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: on that. We'll take more of your calls on the

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Speaker 1: training camp. What's the best part about training camp for

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00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: the fans? That issue is on the tape. We're gonna

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00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: get into a serious debate though, I'm taking Friday off.

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00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: If I have to work hard today, I'm gonna need

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Speaker 1: Friday off. That's basically received saying back with our two

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00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: in a moment. First ot, we flew by, didn't it?

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Speaker 1: I did? We should do more vacation to make this

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Speaker 1: feel One Bill's Lide presented by Kalida Hell from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello the old

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00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: radio network Stories. Update update from One Bill's Drive for

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Speaker 1: two and a half week away from the start of

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00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's training camp. Still very quiet here at One

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00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. Training camp opens. The first practice scheduled for Thursday,

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00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: July twenty six, that's five thirty pm a practice at

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00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher College. Eighteenth consecutive season. The Bills have

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00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: had training camp at Saint John Fisher. The NFL roster

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00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: of game officials includes seven rookies among the one under

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00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: twenty one officials. Newcomers announced late last week and some

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Speaker 1: promotions as well. Josh McCown says that the Jets have

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00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: the right guy in Sam Darnald, their rookie first round

1122
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: draft pick. Mccowend schedule will be the starter, but Donald

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Speaker 1: will enter training camp as a number three behind McCown

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00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: and Teddy Bridgewater account says, with Sam, we have the

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00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: right guy. He's wired the right way, he loves the game,

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Speaker 1: he asks the right questions, and he is willing to work.

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00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: Former NFL cornerback Brandon Browner was arrested over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Police say he broke into the southern California house of

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Speaker 1: an ex girlfriend who has a restraining order against him.

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00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: Police say Browner broke into the house, threatened to kill

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00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: the woman, and stole a Rolex watch value to out

1132
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars. Arizona Cardinals GM Steve Kim excited for

1133
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: driving under the influence last week fourth of July and Chandler, Arizona.

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00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: The arrest was acknowledged by the Cardinals and statements released

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00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: Saturday morning. Further details unavailable. Buffalo Sabers and US today

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00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: they've signed defenseman Restimus Dalen to a three year entry

1137
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: level contract. Dalen, taken by the Savers with the first

1138
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: overall selection in the draft last month in Dallas, became

1139
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: just the third player to be taking number one overall

1140
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: by Buffalo, joining Jilbertpero, Mperre Turjon and Roger Federer advanced

1141
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: to a record extending sixteenth Wimbledon quarterfinal with a six

1142
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: lum seven five six four win over Adrian Mannarino of France.

1143
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: Eight time champion. Federer earned his latest win with maximum efficiency,

1144
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: especially during a sixteen minute first set in which the

1145
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: top seeded Federer lost just five points. Federer now has

1146
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: won thirty two consecutive sets at Wimbledon. That's the update

1147
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy and Steve Tasker. One

1148
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: Bills Live on the air until three gone up at

1149
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: two o'clock today, will bring from CBS Sports dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I'm putting you on the spot here. I don't follow tennis,

1151
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: but I do acknowledge that Roger Federer is like an

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00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: all time all time great, maybe a time all time

1153
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: great athlete, at least in recent history. Steve. Yeah, everything's done.

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00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: I could not possibly know less about tennis. But anytime

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00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: it's been I don't know how long it's been decades

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00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: where he continues to be at the top of it,

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00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: and every time I turn it on, he's the only

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00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: guy that anybody wants to watch. I mean, it must

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00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: he must be like the Tiger Woods of tennis. You men,

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Speaker 1: you know what I read over the vacation, the Tiger

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00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: Woods biography. If you seen that armand catan and a partner,

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00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: it's really good. You'd like it. Is it yep? Is

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00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: it out? It's out? I read it. Is it authorized? Nope?

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00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: And it's good And it's not filled. And I didn't

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00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: want a book that was filled with all the sort

1166
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 1: of details of Tiger's divorce. Yeah, yeah, all that stuff.

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00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's in there. What happened is in there,

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00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: and it's kind of factually and uh and reported. There's

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Speaker 1: no lurid details. You don't want that, but it was.

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00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: It was a really good examination of Tiger woods entire life,

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00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: from the time he was an infant to to now.

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00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: And I can honestly say there was no spin either

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00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: positively or negatively about Tiger. It's just factual. Here's how

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00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: he grew up, Here's where his parents, how his parents

1175
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: handled him, which is a big issue for his later adulthood.

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00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: Here's how he, uh, you know, treated people, which is

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00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: a big issue. He wasn't great at treating people. And

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00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot about his relationship with Marco Murray, you know,

1179
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: the old veteran who lived right by him in Florida.

1180
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: How Tiger just ignored O Mirror's induction into the Golf

1181
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, didn't even go Uh. It's troubling, but

1182
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: it's also it's not over the top troubling. And as

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00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: they said, it's not you would like it. I know

1184
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: how you feel about golf. I assume you're you were,

1185
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 1: or maybe still our a Tiger Woods fan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, um,

1186
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,959
Speaker 1: it's it's very it's very good book. Armand Catayan wrote

1187
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: it with a party. I see. I'm acquainted with arm

1188
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 1: and contained is the CBS guy and he was working

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00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl for sixty minutes the year the lights

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00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: went out ye and got some good footage of what

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00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: happened behind the scenes. He's a really good journalist and

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Speaker 1: he's a television journalist, and I'm sure he did a

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00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: really nice job. I knew that this was coming out.

1194
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: I'd heard, and i'd heard there's a little controversy surround

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00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: him because it was not authorized. And even though he

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00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, obviously tried to get Tiger to be a

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00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: part of it, he didn't want any part of it.

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00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: And uh so it's I'm gonna I will have to

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Speaker 1: get Tiger are called, you remember Tiger Woods. Tiger even

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00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: told people who he anticipated would be contacted by the

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00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: authors not to cooperate. They deal with that a little

1202
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: bit too. He didn't want close friends to co operate.

1203
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: Some did, some didn't. So Tiger is still trying to

1204
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: control the message, which is right. Yeah, I mean, but

1205
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: it's definitely worth the read. You would like it, especially yeah, Tiger,

1206
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: And I don't want to get off the Roger Federer

1207
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: thing because we were talking about him, but also that

1208
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods and Phil Minicholson are now on this big job.

1209
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: They're they've gone from like being arch enemies like Batman

1210
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 1: and the Joker kind of things, you know, or whatever,

1211
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: and pick whichever one you want to be whichever, But

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00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: it's not the point. The point is they didn't like

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00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: each other for a long time and they were had

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00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: a very chilly relationship and now that's changed. Uh, they

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00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: grew to have him, you know, a respect for one another,

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00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: and then they kind of started reaching out and in fact,

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00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: Phil broke the ice I think a little bit by

1218
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: reaching out and saying, hey, Tiger, I see some things

1219
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: how about this and texted him, you know, and uh,

1220
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: and it happened also because of the Ryder Cup and

1221
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: Tiger being a vice captain and so they've now they've

1222
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: kind of warmed their relationship to the point where they're

1223
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a match together and they're gonna trademark the

1224
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: match and make it an entity, make it a franchise

1225
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: where they're gonna play head to head for like ten

1226
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: million bucks. Yeah, you know what I forgot about Tilly

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00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: read the book that Tigger did that fifteen years ago. Right,

1228
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: But David V Yeah, Monday Night Golf, they had like

1229
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: a regular TV David did it. They went head to heads,

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Speaker 1: did it? Yeah? And and it's they had done that.

1231
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: You're like, remember the shell wide World of Golf way

1232
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: back in the name the sixteen seventies. Yeah, it was

1233
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: kind of fun and they have a commentator and they'd

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00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: talk about it and they you know, now it was

1235
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: better really when they went back and just edited it

1236
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: up and you know, made a nice little tidy thing.

1237
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 1: But I would watch it. Oh, I'll definitely watch Tiger Versus.

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00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna be more of that because but

1239
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't you know, the PGA Tour is you know,

1240
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: it's an eight hundred pound gerrilla. I mean, it's not

1241
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: going anywhere. But but by the same token, you get

1242
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: these guys like Phil Mickelson Tiger Woods, and he's kind

1243
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: of like Jack and Arnold Palmer back in the day.

1244
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 1: You know, people want to see those guys. They tune

1245
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: in to see those guys. So if given the landscape

1246
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: of the American media now with Tiger Woods can do

1247
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: his own golf thing event on TV with Phil Mickelson,

1248
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna pull a pretty good number. Yeah. Hey, um,

1249
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,479
Speaker 1: we have a thanks to folks on Twitter for clearing

1250
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: up our question about Josh Allen's contract. Turns out that

1251
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: Josh is one of several first rounders who was signed.

1252
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield does not have a contract, second pick se

1253
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley no contract, third pick Sam Darnold no contract,

1254
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: fourth pick, Denzel war no contract, fifth pick, Bradley Chubb. Um,

1255
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: maybe this can't be right. No, I think it's just

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00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: Mayfield and Josh Hellen. Yeah, this article is old. I'm

1257
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: sorry by bad. It's just Mayfield and uh and Josh

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00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: Hellen without contracts. Yeah, that that's my bed. Sorry, but

1259
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: they're yeah, but they're yeah, he's not alone. And that's

1260
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: the point of it is that's the you know, you

1261
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: don't know who's going to be signed and who who's not,

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00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: and you know that's so there's you know, there's the guy,

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Speaker 1: there's the list Baker Mayfield not doesn't have a contract,

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Speaker 1: and it goes all the way down through the top

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Speaker 1: ten down to Josh Rosen. Uh and um, somebody just

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Speaker 1: tweeted and they thought that seven of the nine people

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Speaker 1: didn't have contracts. Maybe that's it. I can't tell. This

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Speaker 1: article is old. I don't want to go by an

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Speaker 1: I I yeah, and they said they tweets in it

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Speaker 1: says uh, and this is from Buffalo Bill's world. Neither

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Speaker 1: Mayfield nor Darnold or signed at this point, and he

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Speaker 1: thinks seven of the nine draft picks. Top nine draft

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Speaker 1: picks are not signing and maybe that is right. I

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Speaker 1: don't know maybe, but anyway, we're thanks for the help

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Speaker 1: on that. We it's it's hard to keep track of

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Speaker 1: because these guys signed pretty quickly, and there was the

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Speaker 1: reason we start talking about is because Rasmus DeLine signed

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Speaker 1: today and they had a picture of him. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of cool having um the former Saber Joe barre Perrow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love those pictures. Are looks good. He does. It's great.

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Speaker 1: I love hope I look that good when I'm at it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You're not. I'm not going to you're

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Speaker 1: not barely all right, Let's talk football. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Let's talk about the Bills. Our Twitter poll

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Speaker 1: today deals with training camp and we want to hear

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Speaker 1: from you what's the best part about training camp from

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Speaker 1: a fan's perspective? Full nines open eight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty or two three one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty or you can do it on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at one Bills Live. Hey call here from Mike

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Speaker 1: on the line. Michael Ahead, you're on the air with us. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: gonna have for no thanks for taking my call. Just

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Speaker 1: want to to share my experience as far as training camp.

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Speaker 1: Back when I was a kid, ad a gentleman by

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Speaker 1: the name of Dave Barriman for former first round pick

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Speaker 1: right yes, out of Michigan, and he was my neighbor.

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Speaker 1: He used to wash his car and what was lawn

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Speaker 1: and take care of his dog and very short. He

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Speaker 1: used to go to practices with him all the time.

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Speaker 1: Did you do that because he was a first round

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Speaker 1: draft pick or because nobody ever did that for me

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Speaker 1: when I was when I was picked up off waivers.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, you know, back then, that's how you earned

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Speaker 1: your money. Mulling lawn, troubling driveway, he's raking leaves, you know. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I guess you were a kid. Huh oh yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, in my sixties now all right, but uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: and going out to uh I believe it was an

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Speaker 1: axis state at the time. And uh you know, sitting

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Speaker 1: on a bucket full of oranges next to any player

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Speaker 1: you want it, and uh you know he could reach

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Speaker 1: out and touch him. Not to mention it was great

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Speaker 1: for autographs to shames past opinion. My comedy fans would

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Speaker 1: be out there at Knox Farm. These are the early

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Speaker 1: couple of first two or three years of Bill's history, right. Uh, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was minimal. It was minimal. You know, if there

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Speaker 1: was one hundred out there was a lot maybe yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to see privilege. That certainly

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Speaker 1: not the right word. But fortune is more like it.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know they have a guy that your mona

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Speaker 1: is lned and you know take it to practice. Sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no doubt, that's yeah, it is uh fortunate two. And

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Speaker 1: it's kind of cool because you're right. I mean that

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Speaker 1: was even the cases of the way it was. When

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Speaker 1: we were at Fredonia, there'd be there'd be maybe two

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Speaker 1: or three hundred people at a practice in Fredonia. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And and Nigo they took it. The minute they took

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Speaker 1: it to Saint John Fisher, there was three thousand people

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Speaker 1: at a practice. Right. I was in between um, in

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Speaker 1: between that, between Knox Farm and h and Fredonia. I

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Speaker 1: would go to camp as a young youngster, you know,

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Speaker 1: eight ten years old to Niagara University. Watch behind the

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Speaker 1: snow fence they traded an niagrapher and quite a long

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Speaker 1: time and they were probably maybe fifty to one hundred

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Speaker 1: people watching that. It was great. I mean, you players

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Speaker 1: walk off the field, go between the snow fence at

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Speaker 1: a kind of a long walk to the nearest locker room,

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Speaker 1: and you could walk along with them and talk to them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's not like Buffalo has the monopoly on it.

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Speaker 1: You think about in Green Bay they have kids who

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Speaker 1: year after year they get players and they because there

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Speaker 1: is a long walk to their practice facility. So the

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Speaker 1: kids give the players a bike, and the kid and

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Speaker 1: the player ride their bikes together to practice. And they

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Speaker 1: get the guys who have the same kid every year

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Speaker 1: riding them on their bicycle the long walk across the

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Speaker 1: across the property to the practice Mike. Thanks, thanks for Colin.

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Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. What's the best part

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Speaker 1: about training camp for a Bill's fan? Eight oh three

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Speaker 1: h five fifty two three one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty two and a half weeks away

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Speaker 1: until training camp begins on the tweet sheet from Steve Noble.

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Speaker 1: Because I live in Tennessee and unfortunately do not get

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Speaker 1: to a tend training camp, it has different meaning for me.

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Speaker 1: To me, he says, camp means I have forty five

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Speaker 1: days to get my patio named one Bill's Drive ready

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Speaker 1: and the cagurator cleaned and filled for the season to

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Speaker 1: start making the trip for the October seventh game, so

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Speaker 1: training camp for Steve Noble in Tennessee. Apparently it is

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Speaker 1: all about a signal that he should get ready for

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Speaker 1: the regular season, get his patio ready, and get his

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Speaker 1: cagurator cleaned. Hows the cagarator get dirty? Did they get dirty?

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Speaker 1: Lots of use? Murph? Okay, so you got if you

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Speaker 1: use that thing, you gotta keep it up to snuff.

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Speaker 1: That's all I can say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From de Rouss,

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Speaker 1: having field goal uprights available for fans to kick field

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Speaker 1: goals was incredible fun. They do that on the side

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Speaker 1: field over there, he said. I remember going as a

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Speaker 1: kid and it was awesome. An idea to put half

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Speaker 1: of Brownie Stadium that is not being used, have security

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Speaker 1: out there and let fans three kicks for three dollars

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Speaker 1: to see how far they can kick. Yeah, I guess

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Speaker 1: you could do that. They use Grownie Stadium. I mean

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Speaker 1: they will split up in the groups right even when

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Speaker 1: around the grass field they're moving to ground each some

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Speaker 1: of the special teamers. Sometimes they always go out there

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Speaker 1: and kick. And that's the thing too. They it's always

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Speaker 1: a little different too, because they do a nice job

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Speaker 1: of keeping it fresh. So if you did one year,

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Speaker 1: you can come back and it'll be just a little

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Speaker 1: bit different. There'll be something else for you the next year.

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Speaker 1: And and of course you know they set up people

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Speaker 1: on msgar looking at they set up this like temperar.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's a temporary building that is like this

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Speaker 1: the merch t Yeah, merch ten. Yeah. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: like it's like awesome, man, you go in there and

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Speaker 1: get any of it's open. It's like, yeah, it's right,

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Speaker 1: it's like the US Open. You can go in and

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Speaker 1: get merch gear. Yeah. And it's uh. And the stadium

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Speaker 1: is set up nice. It's a great little stadium. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's new. It's not like going into an old barn,

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Speaker 1: you know, like an you know, watching a game. It's

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Speaker 1: it's nice, new, it's comfortable, it's you know. And and

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Speaker 1: by now, after all these years they've got they've got

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Speaker 1: to dialed in pretty good, so it's pretty pretty fan friendly.

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Speaker 1: Training Kiff two and a half weeks away. What's the

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Speaker 1: best part for fans? That next tweet on the tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet from Brian rossicknall I like this one, and I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about that. You want to read or

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Speaker 1: do you want me to do to Brian Rossia Nope,

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Speaker 1: number three. Oh no, I don't have it. Don't have it,

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Speaker 1: Brian writes him. From or No, he writes him. The

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Speaker 1: brilliant summer weather in Buffalo. Bill's camp is welcoming and

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Speaker 1: eye opening fashion to new team and staff members unfamiliar

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Speaker 1: with Western New York who were cluelessly misinformed about the

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Speaker 1: area prior and for new free agent visits. He's right.

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Speaker 1: The weather at Fisher is the weather. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: it's here too, write Buffalo, Rochester this time of year

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Speaker 1: for the next six weeks, spectacular weather, not too hot,

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Speaker 1: not too muggy. If you're and you did it played

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Speaker 1: in like a sunbelt city, Houston, and then you come

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo. Well you tell me, well, it's a difference.

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Speaker 1: Where did the oilers trained? Where'd you go to San Angelo, Texas? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I kind of know where that is? And how did

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Speaker 1: that compare with going to Fredonia? Had to be night

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Speaker 1: and day in terms of heat and is horrible humidity?

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Speaker 1: And place was that place was hell on earth? It

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Speaker 1: was hundred two weeks. It was one hundred degrees for

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Speaker 1: ten days of the two weeks, and for uh no,

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Speaker 1: it was one hundred degrees for all fourteen days of

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Speaker 1: the two weeks. Ten of the fourteen days it was ahead.

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Speaker 1: It was one hundred and ten plus one hundred and

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Speaker 1: ten plus in sant Angelo, Texas, and we're out and

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Speaker 1: it was and get off my luck. It was. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't like today. It was two days, yeah, every day,

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Speaker 1: and you know it was. Yeah, it was bad. It

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Speaker 1: was bad. I it's there. People will say, well, that

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Speaker 1: kind of heat, that kind of humidity is what a

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Speaker 1: team needs to get ready to play season. I don't

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Speaker 1: believe that. No, it's not. It wasn't back then. It

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Speaker 1: was just it was in the transition. The league continues

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Speaker 1: to evolve, but back then it was a transition from

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Speaker 1: when guys were not making enough money to play or

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Speaker 1: to be athletes year round, so they were doing they

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Speaker 1: had other jobs other than being a professional football player.

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Speaker 1: That was the transition. Because when I got in, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, we were and guys were now doing that,

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Speaker 1: and so training camp was but training camp was still

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Speaker 1: you know, a five week, six week thing where you

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Speaker 1: went out there and lived and you worked and it

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01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: was still that mentality of getting into shape to play football.

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01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 1: Training camp you were trained to get ready to play football.

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Speaker 1: Guys didn't show up that much in shape. Now early on,

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Speaker 1: we did. That changed pretty quickly. That's when they started

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Speaker 1: putting a cap on how many players they could have

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01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: in training camp. They started teams started shortening that camp

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Speaker 1: because they didn't need to. You know, they were losing

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Speaker 1: guys in training camp to injury because it was so

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Speaker 1: physically taxing. So the league said, wait a minute, and

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Speaker 1: now we don't need this so much anymore because the

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Speaker 1: money is such that guys are coming into camp in shape.

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Speaker 1: So it's really more of a learning atmosphere and it

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Speaker 1: started to evolve towards what it is today. But man,

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Speaker 1: oh man, you get one hundred and fifteen guys and

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Speaker 1: that kind of heat, and you're going two days and

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Speaker 1: you're banging heads and you're doing live drills and health health,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about let's get kidding me, it's hazardous. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: hell got to be. It's hazardous, and so you know,

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Speaker 1: but you know, it was a different world back then.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so, and I think the contrast to in

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Speaker 1: Steve's era Fredonia or now Fisher. You get here, the

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Speaker 1: weather can be warm eighties typically maybe approaching nineties, but

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Speaker 1: the humidity is usually not too bad. And I love

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Speaker 1: when it happens at camp, and it usually does, especially

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Speaker 1: as camp goes a little bit deeper. I think camp ends, uh, well,

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Speaker 1: I know, camp ends August fifteen. By the time you

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Speaker 1: get into that third week of August, you'll get mornings

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Speaker 1: and evenings where it starts to feel like fall out

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Speaker 1: by and that's a perfect transition to be at camp

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Speaker 1: for three weeks. And by the third and final week,

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01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: when you start to feel a little chill in the

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01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: air early in the morning or even in the evening,

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01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: to me, it's like, okay, it's coming football, It's listen.

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01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: We've had this conversation a ton because we always, you know,

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01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: we always hear about it in free agency where there's

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: people and like the game last year against the Colts

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01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: when there's a foot of snow on the ground and

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01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo jis it's crushed for the for the oh, it's

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01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: unbelievably bad weather. But you know, let me tell you something.

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01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: You and I just spent a couple of weeks in

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01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: western New York, and it could not have been more perfect.

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01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons it's perfect is because we

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01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: appreciate it. You can listen, you go to San Diego.

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01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: You go up and there's a cloudy morning, and people

1484
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: are groaning because the weather is so horrible. They're like, oh,

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01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: it's oh, look at this weather. It's it's kind of

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01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: missing this morning. Oh my, and then it burns off

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01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: and it's a seventy dere day from ten o'clock in

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01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: the morning until whenever, and they're like, oh my gosh,

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01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: the weather is so terrible that I'm like, what are

1490
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: you drunk? And here's the reason the weather Buffalo is

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01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: what it should be. It's always that you appreciate the

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01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: good weather. You always know what season it is. You

1493
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: appreciate you appreciate the snow, it fall and winter because

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01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: you get it. We get out in it. We do

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01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: winter sports. I mean, we do stuff in it. It's

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01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: it is what it is. It's wintertime activities and in

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01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: the in the fall, people come here to experience the

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01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: fall in New in New England, it's you know in

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01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: the New England states like Upper Buffalo, western western New York,

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01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 1: all you know, the leaves are changing, the weather is perfect.

1501
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: It's you're picking apples, you know, all this stuff, and

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01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: it is the weather is such here in Buffalo that

1503
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: whatever you're appreciating it, you know, particularly like the two

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01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks we were talking about the first

1505
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: part of the show are vacations that we just took.

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01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was. It was awesome. It was

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01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: perfect weekend. It was perfect, even when it's hot and

1508
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: muggy and it's like wow, you know, you kind of

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01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: soak it in. It's it's the level of appreciation you

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01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: have for every season that you know, the deep part

1511
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: of the season that you appreciate so much. That's why

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01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: it's great here, is because when the weather is appreciated here,

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01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: it's not taken for granted, and it's you know, it's

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01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: a different mentality that we have that we that puts

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01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: us in a better frame of mind. I think the

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01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: name place in the country and the interest of full disclosure,

1517
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: we were not talking like this in April this year. Now,

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01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 1: April was proved, you know, but though I did make

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01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: this in I didn't care, like last two weeks, I

1520
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: didn't care what April was like. And I was loving it,

1521
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: and I was loving what it is now though. That's

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01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: why we appreciate it is because we had to live

1523
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: through that. One more from the tweet sheet on the

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01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 1: question of what's the best part of training camp for fans,

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01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: Debbie tweets and you are making me so excited for

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01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: the start of training camp. For many of the fans,

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01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: this is the start of the season. It's been a

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 1: long time since January, Debbie. For me, for Steve, training

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01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: campus when it starts. I mean we've got preseason games

1530
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: two weeks after camp begins. For me every year, training

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01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: campus when it starts, and I think for many fans too,

1532
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: when you can start to get the pulse of what

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01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: your team is all about. And you know, the TV

1534
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: stations go live every day and the newspaper coverage is extensive,

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01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: and we'll be out there every day. Yeah, it is

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01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 1: the start. It's not September ninth. It's training camp when

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01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: I consider a season beginning, Steve. Yeah, and we have

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01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, other tweets too, It's the beginning of the season.

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01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: And the one Bernie Dennis one bills live camp means

1540
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: getting out of Patriots Nation. I now live in Massachuset,

1541
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: gone home, seeing real family and the Bills family, and

1542
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: it's when the Bill's package and sell hope and he goes,

1543
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: I love every minute of it, and he's right, and

1544
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 1: I think this year and this is really Bernie Dennis,

1545
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: thanks for that tweet, but that's this is one of

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01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: the years where and we just spoke about a little

1547
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: bit ago, they're packaging more in hope this year. Yeah,

1548
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: this is a team that went to the playoffs last

1549
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: year and they're more talented this year. Now, whether they

1550
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: can put it together, yeah, they may be more talented

1551
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: and win fewer games, but I still think you're right.

1552
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,440
Speaker 1: There's a lot to love about this program, these players,

1553
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: this core group, not only the veterans but also the

1554
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: young players sprinkled in around it. I mean, there's a

1555
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 1: lot to love about this roster, and unlike any of

1556
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: the other seasons beforehand, it's a lot more than just hopeful.

1557
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: We got hung up on this about twenty five minutes

1558
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: ago about you know, Josh Allen doesn't have a contract.

1559
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: How many of the first rounders are unsigned? A couple

1560
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: of different tweets on this Buffalo Bill's World says neither

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01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: Mayfield nor Donald are signed. I think seven of the

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01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: top nine draft picks are not signed. I can't fire you.

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01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: I cannot find online a totally updated thing. But I

1564
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: think you're right. I think it's about that and this

1565
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 1: to get us into the next segment, we talked about defense,

1566
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: Bill's defense and AFC East defense. Trenton Johnson tweets in

1567
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 1: John and Steve, there are question marks for the linebackers

1568
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: of the Bills only because they have not played yet,

1569
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 1: but expect them to be a strength of the defense.

1570
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: Edmonds is a freak, including mentally. Studman's is his new nickname.

1571
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that in the next segment. Steve, the

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01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: defenses in the AFC East. You think that Buffalo Rumblings

1573
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: is right that the Bills are number one. I'd listen

1574
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: to that argument. I would also think about the Jets

1575
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 1: a little bit in that category, and but we'll talk

1576
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: about it when we come back. Bill's defense. Where do

1577
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: they rank in the AFC East. If you have thoughts

1578
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: on that, tweet it in or give us a call.

1579
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: Eight oh three h five fifty toll free from outside

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01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

1581
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: A break here talk about the Bills defense and more

1582
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 1: about training camp. If you like when we return. One

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01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalada Health from One Bill's Drive.

1584
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. That's always the number question

1585
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 1: number one. Welcome back, Steve and I just talking about

1586
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: getting paid right. Yeah. In the meantime, I'm swallowing this cookie. Yeah,

1587
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 1: thanks for tuning in. We're back. We're kind of back,

1588
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: and I feel like we're kind of half plugged in here,

1589
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: but I like the way the show's going. Steven, Yeah, Yeah,

1590
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: lots to talk about. And I got this thing we've

1591
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: been talking about Josh Allen and whether he's signing around

1592
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: is it a huge concern. Here's the thing. Baker Mayfield

1593
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: has not signed his contract. Se Quon Barkley has not

1594
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: signed his contract. Sam Darnold has not signed his contract.

1595
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward or the Browns hasn't signed. So the Browns

1596
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: have two of their top draft picks that have not signed.

1597
01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb did sign with the Broncos. Quentin Nelson, the

1598
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: offensive linemen for the Indianapolis Colts, he signed his deal.

1599
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: Josh Allen hasn't signed. Roquan Smith, who's the eighth pick

1600
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: of the draft, didn't sign. H mcgin McGlinchey from San

1601
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: Francisco didn't sign, and then uh, Josh Rosen has and

1602
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: the guys below them all signed. All the guys that

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01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: the rest of the guys throughout the first round. Actually

1604
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: that's not true. The twenty four, twenty fifth, and twenty

1605
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 1: six players drafted haven't signed, or as the twenty eighth,

1606
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: twenty ninth. Uh yeah, so it seems a little bit

1607
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: slower than in recent years, doesn't it. Just a little bit. Us.

1608
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be a problem for the Bills.

1609
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, there might be one of these holdouts. Um,

1610
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: and what we may be seeing this is totally just

1611
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: me off the top of my head. Look, agents need

1612
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: to show that they do something for these first rounders,

1613
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: right since two thousand and eleven, since the new CBA

1614
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 1: with you know, the slotted signings for rookies, you know,

1615
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: in the rookie wad scale. If you're if you're a

1616
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: player who hires an agent, you'd have to think, what

1617
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Now? I'm gonna get drafted here

1618
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 1: and where I get drafted is one wing and get paid.

1619
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: So tell me again why I need an agent? So

1620
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 1: this might be one way for agents to say, we'll

1621
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: see what I'm doing here. Look, and I'm not a

1622
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: fan of most agents, but the agent might be able

1623
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: to say, so, we're gonna wait until we get the

1624
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: best possible guarantees for your for your guaranteed money, putting

1625
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: on your goofy voice, because that's an age to me,

1626
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: that's what an agent would summer. Oh yeah, Josh, Now

1627
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't know who. I didn't even who Josh's agents

1628
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: are listening here. It doesn't matter until you get to

1629
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: your second contract. Yeah, it used to be. In fact,

1630
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: why would you hire an agent if you were a

1631
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 1: rookie to do what you gotta do it? You do what? Yeah,

1632
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: because you get drafted. This is what you get paid.

1633
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: So you don't make a mistake doing what. Hire a lawyer.

1634
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: Look at the cut if you'd sound they make it

1635
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: sound easy, like here's what you're getting pay that. It's

1636
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: not that easy. But here's the thing too. It used

1637
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: to be. And you remember this, the second guy in

1638
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: the draft, the first guy in the draft would not

1639
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: sign until the second guy got picked signs. So it

1640
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: worked in reverse order. The last guy in the draft

1641
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: signed first, saying and it goes all the way up through,

1642
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: particularly in the first round, those top ten guys. The

1643
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: number one pick doesn't want to sign before the number

1644
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,520
Speaker 1: two pick signs, because if the number one pick signs

1645
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: his deal and the number two pick makes more money

1646
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: than he does, the number one guy looks like a

1647
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: goof right, that's what you're kind of waiting for. And

1648
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 1: they'll see what the guys around them got, you know,

1649
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: got in their contract, the guarantees, the incentives and all

1650
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 1: the Yikitty Act and all the inciliary stuff that got

1651
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 1: put into the contract. They'll get a chance to look

1652
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: at that as a higher draft pick and either get

1653
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: inspiration from that or get justification from that about the

1654
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: number they think they should make. It is a little

1655
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 1: bit cut and dry what they're gonna make it because

1656
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: there is a kind of a flat ceiling on it.

1657
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: But the years and all of that do make a difference.

1658
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 1: The five year deal, that's all kind of cut and dried.

1659
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: The four year deal for some of these guys. I mean,

1660
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 1: it's it's there are some lead, there is some leeway there,

1661
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 1: and all that stuff and how it gets ironed out

1662
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: is what takes a long time, particularly when they get

1663
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: guys around them who may get a better deal or

1664
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 1: a worse deal perceived that way. I wouldn't hire an

1665
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: agent if I were a rookie. I'd wait till you

1666
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: get to your second deal. Listen, when you're a first

1667
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: round traffick, you don't have to sire an agent. You

1668
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: can say that you don't. Anyway, we think that. I

1669
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 1: think that's what the issue is. Are right Steve Bill's

1670
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 1: defense AFC East defense pretty interesting, thought provoking. The posts

1671
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: put up opinion post put up at sp Nation Buffalo Rumblings.

1672
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: Corey Jaco Vallei writes the AFC East ranking the defenses

1673
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 1: in the AFC East. He's got the Bills number one.

1674
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 1: He's got the Patriots number two, the Jets number three,

1675
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: Miami number four. Let me just play Devil's advocate here.

1676
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: The Bills deep, what do we say they were twenty

1677
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: nine plus year in defense? You think they're gonna be

1678
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: top ten. I think they're gonna definitely improve defensively. But

1679
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: they say that the are they better? It is the

1680
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 1: defense better than the Patriots, better than the Jet. I

1681
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: think you're counting on a rookie to have a big

1682
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: impact for me and Edmunds, who I think it's going

1683
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 1: to be a really good player, but you're counting on

1684
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 1: him to bolster a linebacking corps that's gonna look different

1685
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: and needs to be a lot better than it was

1686
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 1: a year ago. Um, you're you're counting on a couple

1687
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: of the free agent signings Star Loto Lalay and Trent

1688
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: Murphy to add a lot to Look. This defense couldn't

1689
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 1: stop anybody on the ground last year. Steve Yes, the

1690
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 1: secondary was great last year, but the best defense in

1691
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: the AFC East. I would say that that's that's debatable.

1692
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's certainly debatable. Sure

1693
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: it is, and I get that. But listen, we're you're

1694
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: you hired a pretty couple of key components. Granted, Trent

1695
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: Murphy's a question mark because he did have a bad

1696
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 1: knee injury hasn't practice yet, and he hasn't practiced yet.

1697
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, Kyle Williams, Matt Milano is gonna play a

1698
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 1: larger role. But Star Lotulelee is is a quality defensive

1699
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: lineman who's going to come in. And Um, you've got

1700
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 1: Shack Loss and Jerry Hughes. Shack Loss coming back in

1701
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 1: a year where he's got to play well and he

1702
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: knows it, and he's said it as much. But here's

1703
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 1: the thing, too, Murph, that you're forgetting. You're comparing them

1704
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: to these other three defenses, the Patriots, the Jets, and

1705
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Look at the Patriots, they lost Matt Patricia,

1706
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: their longtime defensive coordinator is out the door. They lost

1707
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, who was in years past had been a

1708
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl hero for them, that didn't even play the

1709
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: super Jason mccordy came into the fold, and they signed

1710
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 1: Danny Shelton in New England. Danny Shelton was with an

1711
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: O and sixteen Cleveland Browns team who was a former

1712
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: first round pick for them, and they didn't resign that.

1713
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: The Browns didn't resign him. So, you know, losing Matt Patricia,

1714
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna hurt them. I mean, they're gonna

1715
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: be in a transition at the top. And I've told

1716
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: you you know this, I've said this before. The guys

1717
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: who make the biggest differences for their teams in free

1718
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: agency are coordinators who move. They're the guys who come

1719
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: in and the team actually gets better right away. They're

1720
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,919
Speaker 1: got like a Wade Phillips, like a like a Greg Williams,

1721
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: like a Jim Schwartz. You can go down the list.

1722
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: You know, those guys make a difference. So when you

1723
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: lose one of those guys, same thing, it's a it's

1724
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: a huge loss for your team that you're gonna have

1725
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: to uh to fill. Patriot Patriots gonna take a hit.

1726
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 1: Patriots can point to some some pretty good talent, some

1727
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: first round picks, and I'm not gonna deal with Danny Shelton.

1728
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 1: But Malcolm Butler, first rounder for them a couple of

1729
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: years ago, remains on the team. Dante high Tower, I

1730
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: think considered Butler left. No, I'm sorry, Malcolm Brown. Oh,

1731
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 1: Malcolm Melcolm Brown, Dante high Tower, former first round pick

1732
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: from six years ago, pretty good player. Devin mccordy still

1733
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: playing pretty well. Stefan Gilmour, former first round pick here

1734
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. We know what he's about. I think the

1735
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 1: Patriots can point to some some talent that they have.

1736
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: But you know what team I really think is underrated

1737
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: in this Buffalo Rumblings article is the New York Jets

1738
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 1: and the talent that they have. What are the third

1739
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: A think, yeah, they're the third and ranked defense the

1740
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: Dolphins are for I would say the Jets what might

1741
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 1: have a claim to being a team that you would

1742
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 1: look at as a possible, you know, best defense in

1743
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 1: the AFC East. I think the Jets, you know, Leonard

1744
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 1: Williams for example, outstanding player up front for them. Yes,

1745
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 1: they've they've lost some people. I think the Jets secondary.

1746
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: They've invested heavily in their secondary in recent years with

1747
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: first round draft picks and premium draft picks. Um. I

1748
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: think the Jets linebacking corps is pretty good. I think

1749
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: the Jets might be the forgotten team when it comes to,

1750
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, best defense in the division. I really do

1751
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: see well and I see that it could possibly be.

1752
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: I do think that the Jets are gonna need that

1753
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: defense to be better, and I don't think they've forgotten

1754
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: about it. There's no question. You're right. Leonard Williams is

1755
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: a stud great but he's a great player. He's a

1756
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: penetrating defensive lineman who gets in the backfield a lot.

1757
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 1: And you know they they you can point too. And

1758
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: I can't remember the defensive lineman they lost in free

1759
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 1: agency or traded this last year. He was a really

1760
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: good player for them and was a problem child Wilkerson

1761
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: when they that may be, and I hate to say

1762
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: this about another team, but he may be additioned by subtraction.

1763
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: For the Jets, they may get better a little bit

1764
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: like the Bills did last year without some of their

1765
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 1: talented players. They may be able to play better because

1766
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: they get more guys contributing and less strife in their

1767
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: locker room. Moe Wilkerson was not a happy camper in

1768
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 1: New York, and getting rid of a guy like that

1769
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: is a plus to the sight of everybody else on

1770
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: that defense. So yeah, I can see that. There's no question.

1771
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: It's a debatable topic, but I do think I like

1772
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: where the Bills sit better than I like where the

1773
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 1: other teams set. Now, we've also gotten some tweets about

1774
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 1: this early on about there's some Trenton Johnson replying to

1775
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: our tweet about our conversation about JOHNA. Steve. There are

1776
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: two question marks for the Bills only because they haven't

1777
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: played yet, but we expect them to be a strength

1778
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: of the defense. Edmonds is a freak, including mentally. Studman's

1779
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 1: instead of Edmonds is his new nick. But he's talking

1780
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: about Tremaine Edmonds and Harrison Phillips obviously guys who've been

1781
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: added it through the draft, and you go in through

1782
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: and you go to Star Low to Lele the Bills,

1783
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: And it's easy for us sitting here because we talked

1784
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: about this man every detail of this every edition, and

1785
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: subtracting the Bills addressed some real needs they had. Their

1786
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: pass rush was not there last year, and they got

1787
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: some helpful inside down inside with Star Loto, Lelee and

1788
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 1: Trent Murphy on the outside, plus Jerry Hughes on the

1789
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: other side, and Shack Lawson coming into a year where

1790
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: he's highly motivated. So you've got a lot of reasons.

1791
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: I think their their pass rush is going to be

1792
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,839
Speaker 1: different than it was. And there's no question their defense

1793
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: last year, their front seven was a huge problem. Yeah,

1794
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: a couple of calls on this, Jose and Buffalo. Go ahead, Jose,

1795
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Hey, welcome back, guys,

1796
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, I miss you guys. It was weird anyways,

1797
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: Uh I was. I'm Murph. Come on, I know you're

1798
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 1: playing Devil's advocate and everything like that, but think about this.

1799
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: How could you honestly tell me that the Bills are

1800
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: not the number one in in in the mcast. I

1801
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: mean just just just on I want to say, a

1802
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: sheer body of work, starlets U. A body of work.

1803
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: What he did down to Carolina beautiful. That's what we

1804
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: always go by. His body of work, right, Trent, I

1805
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: mean Tremy Emmons. I understand he's a rookie, but even

1806
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: just him being a four year starter, the way he played,

1807
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: and just Vontay Davis, that's another one body of work.

1808
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: You know. Our secondary was was was was very good

1809
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: last year. I just think we got better in our

1810
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: secondary and now we're gonna actually have a pass rush.

1811
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: And then if you think about him Milano, Milano is

1812
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 1: more of a good cover guy anyway, so he fits

1813
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 1: the scheme very well. He's he's playing a natural position.

1814
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 1: Can where can we go wrong? You know what, Jodey,

1815
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 1: If I were gonna if I were making the argument

1816
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: in my body of work and I was responding to you,

1817
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: which I guess I am, I'd say the body of

1818
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: work includes the twenty sixth ranked defense in the NFL

1819
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: last year, twenty nine thin. It's the run that's part

1820
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: of their body. It worked out. There's a lot of

1821
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: room for improvement on this defense. Yes, They've added players

1822
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 1: Lotulae and Trent Murphy and Tremaine Edmonds and others. They've

1823
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: added players Monte Davis and others. But there's an awful

1824
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,759
Speaker 1: lot of room for improvement. I think, you know, Steve,

1825
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: we had the early discussion when you came on the show.

1826
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: You have them. I think we have something writing on

1827
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: it right. You say they're gonna be a top ten defense.

1828
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: There was some bet they can involve the car or

1829
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: something from West I bet you ten dollars, you bet

1830
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 1: me your mortgage. I'm just saying there's a lot of room.

1831
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of places to

1832
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,560
Speaker 1: go for this defense from twenty six last year. You know,

1833
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: if they're gonna get better, I think they're gonna be better.

1834
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: I do. Are they better than the Patriots with all

1835
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: those first round picks? Are they better than the Jets

1836
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: with you know they first and second round picks last

1837
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 1: year went to two safeties. You're both pretty good player

1838
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: Darren Lee going into is what is third year, former

1839
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: first round pick and Leonard Williams up front. There's some

1840
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: talent there the Jets as well. What I'm saying I

1841
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: can understand that I can definitely understand where you're coming

1842
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: from with but it is even I don't know, it's

1843
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to not sit there and say that

1844
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: this team is not number one. It's it's kind of hard.

1845
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: I can't even swallow it saying that this team is

1846
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: not number one AFC East and I'm, in my opinion,

1847
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: top five in the league. I'm sorry. Well, I'll tell

1848
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: you what, Josey, let me just jump on with you

1849
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,640
Speaker 1: for a minute. Here's the thing that's intriguing and then

1850
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: why this whole conversation comes up, and it's so interesting

1851
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: for us here in Buffalo, this team in Buffalo, and

1852
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: this is part of this new the program, the process

1853
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: that we're talking about in Buffalo we kind of make

1854
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 1: jokes about because you know, Sean McDermott uses that you

1855
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 1: know that words, those words so much part of the

1856
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: process here in Buffalo. And this is why this season

1857
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 1: is so intriguing for me and so fun to be

1858
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 1: a part of. This is gonna be a real and

1859
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: you say the body of work last year, their team

1860
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: was in the twenty ninth Murph, and I get it,

1861
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: But here's what it says. This is gonna be a

1862
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: completely different team a very different team than we saw

1863
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: a year ago. A very different team it's gonna be,

1864
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 1: and I maintain it's much much, much more talented than

1865
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: it than it was a year ago because of where

1866
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: they ended up, because of you know, the loss of uh,

1867
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: the loss of the players that they traded away early

1868
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: in the season, all the starter and guys they left.

1869
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: They let go Marcel Darius, uh the guy you know,

1870
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: and and UH Steph Gilmour who they lost in free

1871
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: agency from sixteen and uh Darby it was gone. Uh,

1872
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins is gone. So all these players, these talented

1873
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: players were gone. And so the team the way it

1874
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: was constituted the second half of last year, and they

1875
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: made the run of the playoffs. They played better with

1876
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 1: less talent. The intriguing thing is this team is gonna

1877
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: be really different than that one. I think this team,

1878
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: the defense is going to be an engine for that team,

1879
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 1: for this team this year. I don't think it was

1880
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,799
Speaker 1: last year. I think the engine last year was shady

1881
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 1: and whatever Tyrod could give him in the passing game

1882
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 1: or in the in the running game, that was kind

1883
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: of the engine last year. This team is gonna look

1884
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: completely different. I think this is a team that's not

1885
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:58,560
Speaker 1: gonna give up thirty points over the course of a

1886
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 1: month every week. You know, I think this is gonna

1887
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 1: be a team that is gonna be really hard to

1888
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: move the football on and score points on. I think

1889
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a completely different identity to the twenty

1890
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 1: eighteen Buffalo Bills. And it was last year twenty seventeen

1891
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: that I think their offense is gonna look completely different.

1892
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: Their defense is gonna play completely different. Even if they're

1893
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: running the same schemes, the players running, they're gonna be

1894
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: completely It's I think that's part of the fun about

1895
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: this team there. You don't know what it's gonna look like,

1896
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what, given looking at it on

1897
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: paper and looking at guys who they brought in, it's

1898
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: pretty exciting to think about. Yeah, of course it is. Hope.

1899
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 1: You're right. They got better players on that side of

1900
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 1: the ball, the particil in front seven and the key players,

1901
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 1: I mean Tremaine Edmonds, I mean, he's I mean, I listen,

1902
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: Brown was a good player last year. I mean, yeah,

1903
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 1: Preston Brown is a really good player, and he went

1904
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 1: away lost him in free agency, went to Cincinnati, right yes,

1905
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 1: since lost him to Cincinnati. I'm telling me what right now.

1906
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: And I know it's easy. We're a county of this

1907
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: shiny new toy, you know, Tremaine Edmonds. But I'm telling

1908
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: you what I Tremaine Edmonds is a guy. He's just

1909
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: that physically gift. You might be wrong. I hope you're right.

1910
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 1: Hey speak we talk about the Patriots a little bit.

1911
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 1: The Patriots own. Rob Gronkowski, the Western New York native,

1912
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 1: was in town over the weekend and managed to make

1913
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 1: a little splash. I guess we're Bills fans. So last summer,

1914
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski, at a wedding intercepted a bouquet and spiked it.

1915
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: He outdid that this year at a wedding right here

1916
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 1: in Western New York. His buddy John Tico. I know

1917
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:40,719
Speaker 1: John Tico's parents. They were classmates at Williamsville North together

1918
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: Rob and John Tico. Rob. I believe in the wedding,

1919
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: and I think there's video for those who are watching

1920
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: on TV. One of the bridesmaids put on a Bill's

1921
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 1: cap as she marched down the aisle, or maybe she's

1922
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: marching into the reception looks like Morley reception. Try to

1923
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 1: put it on Rob and he spiked the bill's cap

1924
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 1: and kicked it. Yeah, please tell me that was the

1925
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: reception and not the church. That that was when they

1926
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 1: get they introduced the bride'smaids and the grooms were together.

1927
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 1: They always introduced them to tell everybody who they are,

1928
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: because you know, got two sides of the family there,

1929
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 1: and you got to find out who these people are

1930
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: that are in a wedding party. So like, nobody knew

1931
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: who Gronkowski was, right, so they introduced him. He comes

1932
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 1: out and they dance, you know, the couple usually dances out,

1933
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: and they had and that it does. And the and

1934
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: the girl who the bridesmaid, very lovely dressed there, she

1935
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 1: hands it and puts the bill's cap on Gronkowski's head,

1936
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,679
Speaker 1: and of course he what's he gonna do? Not do that?

1937
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: He's got to pull it off. It was great. It's

1938
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: a great move. Yeah, it's predictable, but yeah, it's what

1939
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 1: you would expect. Apparently, somebody fell down during the dance

1940
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 1: portion in EVENI and robbed dove into him from behind

1941
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: with it. We're facedown just like he did. He was

1942
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: suspended for three weddings after that. You can't go to

1943
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: the other wedding. That's perfect, that's good following guy. I

1944
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 1: still don't get that that turnus white head bothers me

1945
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 1: because it was out of character for him. I mean, yeah,

1946
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: it should because it's a dirty, cheap play, but that's

1947
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:11,600
Speaker 1: not who should dive deep into my intellectual in my

1948
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: ellectual intellectual world. We've all heard about how a little

1949
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,799
Speaker 1: fun it is to play for the New England Patriots,

1950
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: and they keep the screws on those guys tight. Grinkowski

1951
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 1: was not having a good day with Tardevious gardener man

1952
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,799
Speaker 1: Tandavis was getting away with some stuff, no question, Tdavis

1953
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 1: grabbed him, held him. And Gronkowski puts up with a

1954
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: lot more that than other players do. And the pressure

1955
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: on those guys to perform is so high. I think

1956
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 1: it forced Gronkowski to get so frustrated because he knew

1957
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: he was gonna get called for not having a good game.

1958
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 1: He didn't want it. He's I think he's I think

1959
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 1: he's under a lot of pressure to perform, just like

1960
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is, just like the rest of those guys,

1961
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: and he didn't and he knew the consequences of not

1962
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 1: having a good game against the Buffalo Bills. We're gonna

1963
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 1: be too much for him, and it frustrated him, and

1964
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 1: I think he snapped. Well, there's no question he lost

1965
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 1: his cool and he and he goes in and dives

1966
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 1: into the back of Tredavious White on that in that

1967
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: game against the Bills. It was out of character for

1968
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: him and it was reprehensible and I'm shocked that he

1969
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,639
Speaker 1: It was a one game. One game, Yeah, to me,

1970
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: that was that was an egregious Please tell me that

1971
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 1: you're not making an excuse for them. He needed to

1972
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 1: get us suspended, and I should. It should have been

1973
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: more than one game. But it was so out of

1974
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 1: character for him. It was a great competitor and a

1975
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: tough guy. Yeah, he's a Bill's nemesis. He's a he's

1976
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: a great player who we've had to watch really have

1977
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 1: a phenomenal and he's a he's a Buffalo guy. Um,

1978
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 1: But that was out of character for him, I will

1979
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 1: say that. But it was egregious and there's no doubt

1980
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:41,679
Speaker 1: about it. He needed to be suspended for you gotta

1981
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 1: send a message not just a rob, not just a grunk,

1982
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: but everybody across the league. You cannot do that. Told

1983
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: you now, maybe it was Donald when he was here

1984
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 1: the story that day Sunday the Patriots in the Bills.

1985
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm going down the tunnel, you know how it slopes down.

1986
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 1: Rob's coming up after the game, and I know Ron,

1987
01:34:58,000 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 1: I've known his family, known him for years, and I

1988
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: I kind of looked at him and held my palms. Haven't,

1989
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: said Rob? And he looked at me and he goes, hi,

1990
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: mister Murphy and just kept on walking as if to say,

1991
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what I just Rob Gronkowski calls you mystery. Yeah,

1992
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: that's because he knows. He is an old guy who

1993
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 1: was friends with his father. Yeah, hey, mister Murphy and

1994
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 1: Ms Murphy. It was almost like, I don't know, I

1995
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: have no explanation. Yeah he knew. Yeah, And I'll tell you.

1996
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 1: Belichick said something to Sean McDermott after the game, too.

1997
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 1: Was terrible. Yeah, it was a terrible man. And that

1998
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: was And throwing that hand on the floor is terrible too.

1999
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 1: That was the gene is probably the low light, the

2000
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 1: probably the lowest point of his career for me. Rob. Yeah,

2001
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: I agree. All the stuff he's done, all this stuff

2002
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 1: is pretty much good fun. He's yeah, he's probably he's

2003
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: a great kid stuff. But he did have a bad moment,

2004
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 1: no no doubt about it, and and kind of a

2005
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: funny moment that's probably choreograph. Right. They planned that moment

2006
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 1: with the hat at the wedding, right, you don't think that, Yeah,

2007
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: I would imagine that a breakcare. We're back with more.

2008
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 1: What do you think about the Bill's defense? Is it

2009
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 1: in fact the best defense in the AFC East going

2010
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,640
Speaker 1: into the season. Give us a call to discuss or

2011
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: doing on Twitter. The phone line's open eight O three

2012
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 1: oh five fifty or toll free one eight eight eight

2013
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,640
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. You can do it on

2014
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 1: Twitter at One Bill's Live. Back with More, One Bill's

2015
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. One

2016
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker.

2017
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 1: One of the things we're discussing today, among other things

2018
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 1: among the training camp and what it means to you

2019
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 1: and you can call in on that, is Buffalo defense

2020
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 1: isn't in fact the top defense in the AFC East.

2021
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 1: Give us a call to discuss eight O three five

2022
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

2023
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:45,759
Speaker 1: two five fifty. Chris Rolik tweets in I hope I'm wrong,

2024
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 1: but I don't see as being a top ten defense

2025
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 1: simply because of the tough schedule this season. That's a factor.

2026
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: That's a tough schedule. It looks tough. You never know

2027
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 1: until you get in it. Yeah, yeah, everybody, everybody's got

2028
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 1: tough schedule. Let's take a call here from Tim in Depew. Tim,

2029
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Oh yeah, how you doing, guys? Okay, hey, listen.

2030
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, I know everybody's enamored with our new middle linebacker,

2031
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: and he's really oppressive with his ability to get from

2032
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 1: sidelighting and sideline. But one of the things that I

2033
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: noticed and all the highlights that they showed him this kid,

2034
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 1: you know, through college, is a lack of impact when

2035
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 1: he gets to the player on the field. And one

2036
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: of the great rate marks a great linebackers like Ray

2037
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 1: Lewis and Luke Keikley I brill you know, it's the

2038
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 1: guy that makes the big hint when he gets to

2039
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,719
Speaker 1: that point. And that's one of the things I'm really

2040
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 1: a little concerned from what I've seen of this kid's

2041
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 1: highlights that just doesn't show up. And you know, so

2042
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit learry. He's gonna have to really

2043
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 1: show that ability once he gets into the NFL because

2044
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,879
Speaker 1: arm tackling and diving at the guy's feet and swiping

2045
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, his legs out from one of them isn't

2046
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 1: going to work in the NFL. That's interesting, and I

2047
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 1: hadn't noticed that on Well, well, it's wait to see

2048
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 1: because it's you know, obviously nobody has seen him tackle

2049
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 1: at the NFL level, even in practice, because they haven't

2050
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: been tackling at all. I mean, there's no contact at

2051
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: this point, and you probably get a chance to see

2052
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 1: him in the preseason for sure. But that's an interesting take.

2053
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 1: I haven't really I hadn't really thought about that about

2054
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 1: you know, what it looks like when he actually makes

2055
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 1: the tackle in college or whether he's not, you know,

2056
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 1: exploding through the hit or whatever. That And that's an

2057
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 1: interesting thing. I'm gonna wait and see. But yeah, I

2058
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot more than just that reason not

2059
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 1: to the guy hasn't played in the NFL. We don't

2060
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 1: know how good he's gonna be. We'll see, So there's

2061
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 1: a lot of reason and there's a lot of question

2062
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: marks about how good Tremaine Edmonds can be. But the

2063
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: early returns are he's got all the ability. He's got

2064
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 1: the size, he got the strength, he's got the attitude,

2065
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 1: he's got the intellect, he's got the commitment, he's got

2066
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 1: the hard work, he's got the work out, he's got

2067
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 1: all that other stuff. But you're right, and when push

2068
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 1: comes to shove, if Tremaine Edmonds can't tackle, he can't play.

2069
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at him Edmunds video after

2070
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 1: they drafted him, not before I was quarterbacks before the draft,

2071
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 1: and I didn't notice that. So we'll see. I will

2072
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 1: say a couple of things when you watch, and my

2073
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: go to website on these draft prospects is um draft

2074
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 1: breakdown dot com, where you can find virtually everyone. And

2075
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 1: as I look through that, I recall thinking that Tremi

2076
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:21,679
Speaker 1: and Edmonds covers a lot of territory runs all day long,

2077
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 1: can do everything you want. He can get sidelined to sideline,

2078
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 1: he can get deep downfield. But I don't ever recall thinking, well,

2079
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 1: he's not a great tackler. We'll see, and as Steve said,

2080
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:33,560
Speaker 1: we haven't seen anything tackling wise so far in his

2081
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 1: brief practice stint here with Buffalo and you won't really

2082
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:39,759
Speaker 1: know to you get to until you get to games,

2083
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 1: even regular season games. If he can hold upright seven,

2084
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 1: the preseed is going to be you know, well, I

2085
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know who's he playing against? Get it?

2086
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 1: Is he getting any number one? Look? Is he getting

2087
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: any you know, don't keep an eye on that. Yeah,

2088
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Speaker 1: but that's interesting, I mean, and it just goes to

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Speaker 1: show you and today, I mean he runs people down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I seen. You question breakdown. But you're right,

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Speaker 1: you don't see any of that, you know, that stuff

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Speaker 1: where you seem flying in and the guy going you know,

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Speaker 1: head over heels towards the sideline because he got knocked

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Speaker 1: you know from the numbers off the field. You know,

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01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 1: you didn't you know, see much of that. And but

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Speaker 1: on the same token, all we see really basically we

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01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 1: see his highlights. Well that's why you go to Grant

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01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: draft breakdown dot com and you can see more than highlights.

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Speaker 1: That's what I would suggest. And I did that for

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and looked at Edmonds, I looked at all the

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01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 1: bills picks. After the fact, all right to break here

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Speaker 1: more to talk about an hour three, including Will Brinson

2103
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 1: from CBS Sports dot Com. He's got us finger on

2104
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 1: the pulse of what's going on in the NFL, including

2105
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 1: playoff odds, including the new penalty for clearing snow off

2106
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:45,720
Speaker 1: the field. We think it has a lot to do

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01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: with the Bills Colts game last year. Will Brinson from

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports dot Com joins us when we come back

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Hello Hills Radio Network. Story update from One

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Speaker 1: Bill Drive. Quiet here today, two and a half weeks

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Speaker 1: away from Buffalo Bill's training camp. First practice schedule for Thursday,

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Speaker 1: July twenty six, five thirty pm at Saint John Fisher College.

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Speaker 1: NFL has announced its roster of game officials for the

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Speaker 1: upcoming season, one hundred twenty one and all, including seven rookies,

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01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 1: several newcomers. We'll talk about that as the third hour

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Speaker 1: the show comes along. Josh McCollen, veteran quarterback for the

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Speaker 1: New York Jets, says the Jets got the right guy

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Speaker 1: when they drafted Sam Darnald with the number three overall pick.

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Speaker 1: With Sam, we have the right guy. McCown says, he's

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01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 1: wired the right way, loves the game. He asks the

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Speaker 1: right questions and he is willing to work. Donald will

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01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 1: go to training camp as number three on the Jets

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01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 1: quarterback depth chart, behind Josh McCollen and Teddy Bridgewater. Former

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01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 1: NFL cornerback Brandon Browner arrested Wallie Say he broke into

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01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 1: the southern California house of an ex girlfriend. Will ask

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01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 1: a restraining order against him. Belie Say Browner broke into

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01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 1: the house, threatened to kill the woman, and so will

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01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 1: Rolex Watch valued at twenty thousand dollars. Arizona Cardinals GM

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01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 1: Steve Kim has been cited for driving in the influence

2131
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 1: on July fourth in Chandler, Arizona. Chandler police told multiple

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Speaker 1: media outlets of further details where unavailable. Time has been

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01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 1: the Cards GM since twenty thirteen, signed a contract extension

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01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 1: with the team earlier this year. Buffalo Sabers signed a

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01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: contract today with the first pick in the NHL draft,

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01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 1: defenseman Rasmus Dolling signed a three year entry level contract

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01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 1: with the Sabers. Doling was taken by the Sabers with

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Speaker 1: the first overall selection in the twenty eighteen draft last

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01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 1: month in Dallas, just the third player to be taking

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01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 1: number one overall by the Sabers, joining Joebert Perot, who

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Speaker 1: was selected number one in nineteen seventy and Pierre Turnjohn

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty seven. ED Wimbledon, Roger Federer advances to

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Speaker 1: a record extending sixteenth quarter final with a sixth love

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Speaker 1: seven to five, six four victory today over Adrian Mannarino

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01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 1: of France. Federer, an eight time champion, was maximum efficient

2146
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 1: on center board a sixteen minute first set. That's the

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01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 1: update from One Bills Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker coming

2148
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 1: to you from our one Buffalo studio taking stock of

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01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 1: the NFL a couple of weeks before training camp. There's

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01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 1: stuff going on, not a lot, but stuff going on

2151
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 1: around the league and joining us now to talk about

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01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 1: it on the subway. Fresh Dake Hotline is NFL writer

2153
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 1: for CBS Sports dot Com. Happy to have Will Brinson

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01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 1: on the line with us. Well, John Murphy and Steve

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01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 1: Tasker here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us. Yeah, what's

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01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 1: going on? Guys? They were doing well? We're doing well.

2157
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 1: We're back after vacations and we came to work today

2158
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 1: Steve and I Will and asked around, what's going on?

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01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 1: What are we missing? We were gone. You know what

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01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 1: they said, nothing, there's nothing going on in the NFL,

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01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 1: but you managed to make stuff work. What have you found?

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01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 1: What's been the most interesting news coming out of the

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01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:47,640
Speaker 1: NFL in recent weeks to your mind? Oh, John, I mean,

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01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you what it's been. It's been blows

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Speaker 1: molasses out there, brutal trying to find stories, and I

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01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: think I like I wrote something about under at Thompson

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01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 1: getting your sending a letter to Jim Urst declining to

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Speaker 1: give him a thirty million dollars to learn and urging

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01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:07,600
Speaker 1: him to take Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning, which it is.

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Speaker 1: Actually that's up there in my top five NFL offseason

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01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,799
Speaker 1: stories for for this offseason. It's gonna be very difficult

2172
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 1: to splant the number one story, which is Bill Belichick

2173
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 1: taking his tiny little dog out to like a lacrosse

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Speaker 1: game and put him the dog in a Patriots hoodie.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's peak offseason, probably my number one story.

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01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 1: But the Hunter as a as a big hunter as

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Speaker 1: Thompson fan, Um, you know, I can see why he

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01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:37,640
Speaker 1: would somebody like Ryan Leaf would resonate with him. But

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Speaker 1: I find the whole thing fascinated. Well, Steve and I

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01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:41,720
Speaker 1: were talking about this earlier today, not on the air,

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Speaker 1: but well we're we're talking about Hunter Thompson. What was

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Speaker 1: the nature of the relationship between Hunter Thompson and Jim

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01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:51,719
Speaker 1: Ursey back then, do you know? Yeah, you know, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I just assumed that it was some sort of situation

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Speaker 1: where Thompson, you know, just fired up his typewriter and

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Speaker 1: send some stationary out. But apparently the two were actually

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01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:05,680
Speaker 1: fairly tight. I read on ESPN then. Of course Hunter S.

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01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 1: Thompson worked for ESPN at Page two for years, one

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Speaker 1: of the first page two guys there, so you know,

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01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: he was sort of covering you know, always obviously covered sports,

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Speaker 1: but sort of covering it, um, you know, in a

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01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 1: more modern and official capacity, I guess. But ESPN said

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Speaker 1: that at one point in time, Hunter S. Thompson urged

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01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 1: Jim Ersey to buy a I think it's like a

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01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 1: two point five million dollar scroll with Jack Jack Carroas

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Speaker 1: into the Wild written on it, and I think that

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01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:38,439
Speaker 1: Ersey may have complied. So clearly there was some some

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Speaker 1: some engagement between the two in a friendship fashion. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to I don't want to condemn anybody by

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Speaker 1: by by offering up how much or how often they

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Speaker 1: might have hung out. Yeah, it does speak to the

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01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 1: time of year it is in the NFL when we

2203
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 1: can talk about you know, uh, off the mark, off,

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01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 1: the off the cuff note from a writer to an

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01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 1: owner that's twenty years old, about guys who went two

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01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 1: different directions in their career. But one of the things

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01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,680
Speaker 1: that's also been looming in it always does at this

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Speaker 1: time of year is and I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about this talking about how much money Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 1: going to make when he signs his extension. Is he

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01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 1: going to be able to buy his own franchise or

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01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 1: I don't mean like a Wendy's or anything. I mean,

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01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm like a football franchise. Yeah, yeah, he should be

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Speaker 1: able to buy a spotted cow franchise up there in Milwaukee. No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's going to get a lot of

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Speaker 1: money in It's really fascinating. I think it's a big

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01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 1: turning point for the NFL to see what exactly Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers does because you know, Steve, when you look at

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Speaker 1: when you look at what he is going to be paid,

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Speaker 1: you know, you start as a baseline negotiation if you're

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Speaker 1: the packers. Don't even bother walking into the room with

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01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers reps unless you have an offer that is

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Speaker 1: at least eight dollars more than what Matt Ryan got

2224
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 1: from the Falcon. So we're talking I think eighty basically,

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01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 1: like eighty million and one on dollar guaranteed in one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million. I mean, we're talking large dollars here,

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Speaker 1: to nobody's surprise for Aaron Rodgers. The other thing was

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Speaker 1: Rodgers too, is that this is a guy in Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: who could very conceivably choose to operate on something that

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01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 1: is closer to a year by year deal. Now I

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01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,160
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna do that, but I would not

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Speaker 1: be surprised at all if he said, Hey, here's what

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Speaker 1: I want to do. I want a three year, fully

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Speaker 1: guaranteed contract like what Kirk Cousins got. But I wanted

2235
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 1: to be on financial steroids. You're gonna You're gonna pay me.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna pay me, because the thing with quarterbacks is

2237
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna get that full dollar amount anyway

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Speaker 1: most of the time. I mean, you know, looking even

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Speaker 1: like in Andy Dalton or Ryan Tannehill, you know, we

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Speaker 1: you know, lamented their contracts. Colin Kaepernick's really the only exception.

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Speaker 1: We lamented the Ryan Tannehill and Andy Dalton contracts, and

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01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 1: they're still getting paid now, you know, Like somebody like

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01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: Alex Smith hadn't out in his contract and he still

2244
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 1: gets traded to the Redskins and given a bigger contract.

2245
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,679
Speaker 1: So these quarterbacks just get paid. That's just how it works.

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01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 1: I think if Aaron Rodgers is interested, he could create

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01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 1: a paradigm shift for NFL players in general, and certainly

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Speaker 1: for quarterbacks. Allah what Kirk Cousins did by taking a

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Speaker 1: what appears to be a shorter contract with more fully

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Speaker 1: guaranteed money and really sort of put the onus on

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Speaker 1: these owners to start doing more of that and these

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01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 1: front officers to start doing more of that as we

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01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 1: move forward. I think that would be a big win,

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01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:30,759
Speaker 1: not just for the players associations and the other players,

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Speaker 1: but also for Aaron Rodgers because of what it would

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Speaker 1: do for his reputation among his peers. Yeah, there was

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Speaker 1: some chedder will, wasn't there about a potential opt out

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01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 1: clause for Aaron Rodgers which never sounded realistic to me?

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01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 1: But what you discussed just now shorter term sounds like

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01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 1: that might be at least something that a team might

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01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 1: be willing to discuss with him, right yeah, And I

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01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 1: think the opt out clause. I mean, look, he could

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Speaker 1: ask for it, you know, he could try and go

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Speaker 1: the Lebron James and Kevin Durant route, and that would

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01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 1: be that would be huge if he was able to

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Speaker 1: get it. I just say that there's a such a

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Speaker 1: difference for to me, guys, the big difference between Lebron

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01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 1: James is and Aaron Rodgers that Lebron James can can

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01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:15,360
Speaker 1: move to LA and dramatically impact the title odds in

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01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 1: a way that even Aaron Rodgers can't. I mean so,

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Speaker 1: like hypothetically speaking, just because I'm talking to you guys

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01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and none is in adictment of anybody on

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01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:26,600
Speaker 1: the Bill's roster. But if Aaron Rodgers opted out and

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Speaker 1: went to Buffalo, I mean, you know, the would would

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01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 1: the Bills be favored to win the division? I would

2276
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 1: say no, but certainly they would be considered the second

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01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 1: best team in the division. Right um, it would make

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01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 1: a dramatic impact. But I just think even as big

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01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 1: as quarterbacks are, because you have eleven guys on each

2280
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 1: side of the field. Um, you know, it's it's harder

2281
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 1: to make that shift. And I think the other thing

2282
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:50,560
Speaker 1: to consider when you when you talk about that is

2283
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 1: that these guys are you know, creatures that have it.

2284
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 1: They like to be comfortable, and I just don't think

2285
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 1: you're going to see a lot of guys wanting to

2286
01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 1: move around that much. Um, when ability and consistency are

2287
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 1: so critical in the NFL to success. But but look,

2288
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:07,799
Speaker 1: if he's trying to empower the rest of the players

2289
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and he wants to change the way

2290
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 1: that contracts are done, and he wants to fire a

2291
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 1: salvo at the NFL owners ahead of the upcoming CBA

2292
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 1: and a couple of years, getting a fully guaranteed contract

2293
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 1: with an opt out cause would go a long way

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01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 1: in doing that. Yeah, that's one of the other things

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01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: you talk about, consistency and stability. You wrote a little

2296
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 1: something about Tom Brady, and there's something out there about

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Speaker 1: maybe Tom Brady, And it's interesting that they phrase it

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01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 1: this way that after his next Super Bowl win, he's

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01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 1: going to retire, thinking that there's going to be some

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01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:39,640
Speaker 1: time in the near future, and no other player in

2301
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 1: my memory and certainly no present other player would be

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01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 1: counted on to have another Super Bowl win more than

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01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:49,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I mean, it's like part of the conversation

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01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 1: whenever you talk about him. Where do you see the

2305
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 1: end of the tunnel for Tom Brady? Yeah, it's interesting,

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01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 1: And man, I'm glad I didn't. If you guys are

2307
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 1: looking at my stories, I'm glad I didn't write my

2308
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 1: my Jay Cutler appears on very Cavalary whatever so much

2309
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 1: really really focusing your hardcore journalism school skills. Um No,

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01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 1: I think the Brady conversation was actually with William McGinnis

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01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 1: and that's uh, that was one of the episodes we

2312
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 1: have at the Pick six podcast, which is the I

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01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 1: hosted daily Monday through Friday. You can get it an iTunes.

2314
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 1: It's in your it's in your podcast inbox by six am,

2315
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:27,760
Speaker 1: um daily dose of NFL football there on CBS Sports.

2316
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 1: So I highly recommend people check that out, he said,

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01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:34,519
Speaker 1: rather promiscuously. But the uh, the the interview itself with

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01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:38,839
Speaker 1: Willia McGinnis was interesting because Willie McGinnis, of course former teammate,

2319
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 1: knows the Patriots very well and he and he thinks

2320
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 1: that it could be you know, the next super Bowl win,

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01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:45,960
Speaker 1: and Stevie Wright, you can't. I mean, who else would?

2322
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 1: You're like, well, if you know when, if it's when

2323
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 1: he gets to the next super Bowl win, that's when

2324
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna leave. And he just turned forty, right, I mean,

2325
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 1: it's it's wild. But and then you can also make

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01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:59,639
Speaker 1: a counterpoint, It's like, do you really think he'll leave

2327
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 1: if you into this year? Like he could win the

2328
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 1: next one the year after. I do think though, that

2329
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:06,800
Speaker 1: when you listen to the things that Tom Brady has

2330
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 1: said this offseason, I mean, he's he's too smart and

2331
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 1: too brand savvy to think that the things he is

2332
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 1: saying are just water under the bridge or just being

2333
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 1: ignored by the larger public. I mean every word and

2334
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:26,080
Speaker 1: every um you know, inflection of his voice is scrutinized

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01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:29,559
Speaker 1: to the nth degree. And so I think he's he's

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01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 1: sending us a message. It says, I'm sort of heading

2337
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 1: towards the end and I'm I love football, but I

2338
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 1: am a little bit tired of all of this. And

2339
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 1: um look, I mean, I you know, I'm I just

2340
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 1: cover football for a living, and I don't I certainly

2341
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 1: don't work as hard as Tom Brady. But I know

2342
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 1: that my wife gets annoyed by it. I mean, he's like,

2343
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:50,640
Speaker 1: what do you what are you doing on Sunday night?

2344
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 1: You know, I would imagine this azelle who has a

2345
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 1: little bit more pull in multiple areas, um is probably

2346
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,200
Speaker 1: in his ear a little bit. So I think I think,

2347
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 1: I think it is probably two years and hopefully he

2348
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 1: wins the super Bowl, and he thinks he can. He

2349
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 1: believes he can win one. And if you want to

2350
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 1: win this year, I wouldn't be surprised if he walked away.

2351
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 1: No int hear you talk about Brady like that will

2352
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 1: because I used to think that it was just us

2353
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,640
Speaker 1: in Buffalo obsessed with Brady and his future. You know

2354
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 1: what his future might mean. But it's not right. The

2355
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:21,639
Speaker 1: whole league pays attention to Brady and and and looks

2356
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 1: for possible signals at the end might be near. Oh

2357
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:27,680
Speaker 1: my god, I mean, look this aw season. I've I

2358
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 1: mean I've I've listened to an Oprah podcast and watched

2359
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:35,719
Speaker 1: a Facebook documentary trying to decipher phrases like yeah, welcome,

2360
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 1: welcome to twenty eighteen. Uh you know, yeah, I think

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01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 1: that I think he's such a transcendent figure for this

2362
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 1: league and the face of the franchise, face, the face

2363
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 1: of the NFL. Really, I mean, yeah, I think he's

2364
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 1: the greatest player to ever suit up in the in

2365
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 1: NFL history. And it's it's pretty hard to make a

2366
01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:56,640
Speaker 1: competing argument for anybody else. I mean, they're you know,

2367
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 1: they're a couple of different guys Montana of course, Um,

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01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,040
Speaker 1: that you can put in there. But I mean, Brady

2369
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 1: has done at all, and he's done it. You know,

2370
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 1: it's really fascinating. I was, I was talking about this

2371
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 1: the other day. I mean, we're in the middle of

2372
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 1: this stretch as a sports watching culture where you know,

2373
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 1: we're we've got Tom Brady playing, We've got Lebron Lebron

2374
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 1: James playing. Um, you know, we've got Mike Trout playing

2375
01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 1: out there in Anaheim, even though he's the full proof

2376
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:24,680
Speaker 1: of how important one player is to a team. Um,

2377
01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, we have Federer and the Dollar finishing up

2378
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:29,240
Speaker 1: a tennis like we're getting to enjoy some of the

2379
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:31,560
Speaker 1: Williams sisters. You know, we're going to enjoy some of

2380
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 1: the greatest players to ever play each of their individual sports.

2381
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 1: Arguably the greatest player to ever play baseball, basketball, and

2382
01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 1: football is pretty stunning. And I think that Brady, more

2383
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 1: than any of those guys, is elevated himself above everyone else.

2384
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 1: He's just the things that he's done time and time

2385
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 1: again on the biggest stage at at in different ways

2386
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 1: that we never saw coming. Like nobody believed you could

2387
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 1: win an MVP at forty and play the way he played.

2388
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:01,280
Speaker 1: And he just keeps beating to up. Yeah, And that's

2389
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,480
Speaker 1: that's one of the things and the reasons why you know,

2390
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 1: it's so interesting to talk about when he and because

2391
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:10,400
Speaker 1: there's no doubt given the rumblings that came out and

2392
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: the and the SI article that came out about you know,

2393
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 1: the riff between Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. And there's

2394
01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:18,760
Speaker 1: no question that both those guys love and respect each other,

2395
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 1: but they both also have lives and careers they have

2396
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 1: to think about themselves. Do you think Bill Belichick will

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01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 1: see Tom Brady's departure as maybe a chance for him

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01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 1: to step out aside as well, because I've heard him

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01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 1: say outright that he doesn't want to be doing it

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01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 1: when he's seventy. Well, that's not very long away. I

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01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 1: mean the guys in his late sixties. Yeah, you know,

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01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 1: that's that's really sort of I think that's a bigger deal,

2403
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 1: and it gets a little bit buried by trying to

2404
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 1: figure out when Brady is going to leave. You know,

2405
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 1: to me, the idea that they would let somebody else

2406
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 1: other than Josh McDaniels come in after Tom Brady would

2407
01:55:57,320 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 1: be surprising because of the way that things went down

2408
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 1: this off season, and you know, the way that Bill

2409
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: Belichick is now offering to mentor McDaniels in roster building ways.

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01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 1: I think that I think that it's going to be

2411
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 1: very important to Bill Belichick that the Patriots be in

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01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 1: good shape when he leaves, and I think that will

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01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 1: probably impact his decision on whether he walks. Bill Belichick

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01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 1: doesn't want to hurt his legacy by sticking around too long,

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01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to hurt his legacy by by

2416
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 1: by having the Patriots just melt down once he walks away, either.

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01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 1: So I think he's trying to balance those things, and

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01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 1: it's really fascinating to see how that unfolds. You know,

2419
01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:40,120
Speaker 1: as the Bills draft the future franchise quarterback and Josh Allen,

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01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:42,480
Speaker 1: as the Jets draft one in Sam Darnold, you know,

2421
01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 1: as the Dolphins sort of positioned themselves to the future too.

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01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 1: I think the AFC, you know, you know, in a

2423
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 1: long form perspective, is fascinating, just because we don't know

2424
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 1: how it's going to play out. And I think that

2425
01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that Bill Belichick does either. I think

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01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:00,080
Speaker 1: he'll I don't think he'll want to walk away and

2427
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 1: leave the Patriots and shambles though that that to me

2428
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 1: is sort of has to be one of his ultimate

2429
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 1: goals to have left this franchise in good shape so

2430
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 1: it can continue successfully after he's gone on the subway.

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01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 1: Fresh Take Highline with Will Brinson, CBS Sports senior NFL writer.

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01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 1: Will you wrote about something which I think has been

2433
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,400
Speaker 1: underreported in this quiet period in the league. But Mike

2434
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:22,640
Speaker 1: Floria Pro Football Talk reported that I guess as a

2435
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 1: result of the Edelman case that under a new league regulation,

2436
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 1: anyone who gets a performance enhancing drug suspension can have

2437
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 1: that suspension reduced by up to fifty percent if that

2438
01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 1: person who's suspended provides information to the league about anyone

2439
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 1: else who's violated the policy. They're encouraging snitchy. What do

2440
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:47,320
Speaker 1: you make of that? Yeah, it's surprisingly right. Mike's Florio

2441
01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 1: is a lawyer by trade, so he enjoys diving head

2442
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 1: first into pages of legal documentary. I'd he plays video

2443
01:57:57,520 --> 01:57:58,880
Speaker 1: games to the sub too, but I'd let sure to

2444
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 1: do that. You know, Yeah, it was it was a

2445
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:02,920
Speaker 1: good fine by him. He's just sort of digging through

2446
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 1: the Edelman thing and notice it. And it's fascinating because

2447
01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, and Lane Johnson retweeted, I think the PFT

2448
01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 1: story saying, you know, no snitching, etc. Um. And he's

2449
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 1: been busted twice for pds. You know, it's really interesting.

2450
01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 1: Why would the league, you know, you wonder why would

2451
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 1: the league want to encourage snitching by its various players? Um,

2452
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, you sort of sew some discord there. Certainly

2453
01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 1: you can catch guys who are engaging in p D shenanigans.

2454
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 1: But if you're a player, what's you know, what's the

2455
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 1: up shot here? If you if you get suspended four

2456
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 1: games and you get it reduced to two, you know

2457
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna get you're gonna make some more money back,

2458
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a chance to keep playing. But

2459
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna become very obvious very quickly how you got

2460
01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 1: that reduction, and even if it isn't obvious. At some point,

2461
01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:53,640
Speaker 1: it will probably be leaked out by by either the

2462
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:55,840
Speaker 1: NFL or somebody on the team, because that's how this

2463
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 1: league works. So yeah, to me, there's no real up

2464
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 1: shot in some of going out there and snitching, because

2465
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 1: you're going to quickly become the clubhouse rat, so to speak,

2466
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 1: if you if you do that, and people are probably

2467
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:11,360
Speaker 1: going to know it very quickly. There's another UM rules change.

2468
01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:13,560
Speaker 1: I guess it's a rule that is a little bit

2469
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 1: easier to understand, and that is the clearing the field

2470
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:20,200
Speaker 1: from non players trying to clear snow off the field

2471
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 1: before kicks. Steve and I were there right across the

2472
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:26,560
Speaker 1: parking lot here in Orchard Park last year for the

2473
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 1: Bills Colts game. UM talk about that rule, how and

2474
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 1: why that Bill's Colts game was important in what looks

2475
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:35,320
Speaker 1: like the rules changed by the NFL. I might call

2476
01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 1: it a tasker rule, right. Weren't you on the field before? Oh?

2477
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, I was the sideline guy for the broadcast,

2478
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, Adam Archiletta and Spiradidas broadcasting for CBS, And yeah,

2479
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean it. The pregame the field was clear, and

2480
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 1: it didn't stay that way I mean, they had a

2481
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:55,600
Speaker 1: foot of snow, and what happened was the Colts had

2482
01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of sideline guys, the coaches, assistant coaches, trainers,

2483
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:02,440
Speaker 1: you name the guys and just clothes come out and

2484
02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 1: start clearing the field. And the rule says, now, the

2485
02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:09,920
Speaker 1: players on the field can clear it, but nobody from

2486
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:13,320
Speaker 1: the sidelines can come on and do that. So right, yeah, well,

2487
02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:15,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I remember seeing you, Steve, but

2488
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:18,400
Speaker 1: I didn't see you because you were not you were

2489
02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:21,360
Speaker 1: not visible on the broadcast. Oh it was yeah, you

2490
02:00:21,400 --> 02:00:23,520
Speaker 1: know what, well, I know it was wilder. It was

2491
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 1: a crazy game, and yeah, you know, it's one of

2492
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 1: those games that helped propel the Bills in the playoffs.

2493
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:30,280
Speaker 1: And I think what's interesting is that football zebras dot

2494
02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 1: Com pointed out those guys do really good work with

2495
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:36,000
Speaker 1: officiating stuff. But uh, it was in the game day

2496
02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:41,440
Speaker 1: Operations manual that the sideline crew or the you know,

2497
02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:43,720
Speaker 1: the game the field crew, whoever it is game day

2498
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 1: crew can't come out there and clear the snow. But

2499
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:49,520
Speaker 1: the most the only punishment that could be issued as

2500
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:52,160
Speaker 1: a warning. Right, So in theory, it was kind of

2501
02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:55,280
Speaker 1: a smart move if you did it on purpose, but

2502
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:57,280
Speaker 1: I don't know that they did it, but by Chuck

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Speaker 1: Pagando to send him out there to clear it off

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02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:02,520
Speaker 1: during a time out, because the officials can't actually penalize you.

2505
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 1: And now the rule has been changed and edited in

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02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:10,400
Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen NFL Rulebook where in this case, had

2507
02:01:10,440 --> 02:01:13,680
Speaker 1: the Colts done that, they would be immediately penalized fifteen yards.

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02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:16,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's the discretion of the referees and the

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02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:18,839
Speaker 1: officials there and then all of a sudden, Adam Vinitaria

2510
02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:22,080
Speaker 1: would have to hit that knuckleball Waffler from about seventy five.

2511
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:25,160
Speaker 1: It's sort of like hitting It's sort of like if

2512
02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 1: you're playing golf and you're hitting into a tornado. It

2513
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:30,360
Speaker 1: is basically the equivalent of what it would be. So

2514
02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 1: and I believe that the bill is probably would have

2515
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:35,520
Speaker 1: won in regulation at that point. But a very interesting

2516
02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 1: rule change. You the you always find these different loopholes

2517
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:41,240
Speaker 1: for these teams to slide through, and the Competition Committee's

2518
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 1: got to come through and close it. Yeah, it's interesting too,

2519
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:45,840
Speaker 1: because you know it's a case that's come up, like

2520
02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:49,000
Speaker 1: what twice in the history of the NFL with the

2521
02:01:49,080 --> 02:01:51,480
Speaker 1: snowplow game in New England and then in Buffalo last

2522
02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:53,920
Speaker 1: year with the overtime win in against the Colts. So

2523
02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 1: it's not like it's going to happen every week, you know,

2524
02:01:56,720 --> 02:02:00,080
Speaker 1: to follow Adam, follow Adam Viditaria Roun. Yeah, that's in

2525
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:02,720
Speaker 1: the Bills game against the Colts. The official knew what

2526
02:02:02,920 --> 02:02:05,280
Speaker 1: was going on was wrong. I mean you could see them.

2527
02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:07,640
Speaker 1: The officials came out and ordered the players off the field.

2528
02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:09,920
Speaker 1: They had no the recourse though, right, or they ordered

2529
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:12,400
Speaker 1: the non players off the field. I mean, yeah, exactly, Well,

2530
02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:15,160
Speaker 1: so it was I mean I remember watching it. You're

2531
02:02:15,160 --> 02:02:18,000
Speaker 1: watching these these three hundred and fifty pounds linemen just

2532
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 1: out there kicking snow in front of in front of

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02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:23,720
Speaker 1: adamnitary and then the Colts called time outs and brought

2534
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 1: guys from the sideline to help clear it out. And

2535
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:28,840
Speaker 1: that's when the officials sprinted in and tried to clear

2536
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:31,120
Speaker 1: things up. But yeah, I mean, there's there's just no recourse,

2537
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:33,360
Speaker 1: you can, you know. I think I think the way

2538
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:35,200
Speaker 1: that it was stated in the game day Manuel is

2539
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:38,120
Speaker 1: you have to give a warning before any penalty can

2540
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 1: be issued. So even if they wanted to penalize them,

2541
02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:44,000
Speaker 1: they had to warn them from doing it first and

2542
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:46,080
Speaker 1: as a result, you just can't throw a flag in

2543
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 1: that spot. It was wild. It was a wild day,

2544
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:50,320
Speaker 1: one of the most memorable days in recent history. Well,

2545
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:53,200
Speaker 1: thanks for being with us here today. We appreciate it. Yeah.

2546
02:02:53,200 --> 02:02:55,520
Speaker 1: Always fun, guys, have a good afternoon. Thanks. Will Brinson,

2547
02:02:55,560 --> 02:02:58,920
Speaker 1: CBS Sports senior NFL writer on the Subway first take

2548
02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:02,320
Speaker 1: hotline with us Subway eat fresh You could you could

2549
02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:07,920
Speaker 1: categorize Will as prolific. Yeah. Yeah, especially this time of

2550
02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 1: year when, as we said, there's not a whole lot

2551
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 1: going on. He finds something interesting. Man. The Hunter Thompson article,

2552
02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:15,200
Speaker 1: the Hunter Thompson letter to Jim Ersey. I can't get

2553
02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:19,960
Speaker 1: over that. I don't understand why what Hunter Thompson saw

2554
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:23,240
Speaker 1: in Peyton Manning. I mean he refers to him. He

2555
02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:26,200
Speaker 1: said something about, oh, Peyton Manning. If you if that

2556
02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:28,280
Speaker 1: crazy man Warren Sap gets a hold of him, will

2557
02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:30,880
Speaker 1: break him in half. I mean, it's a typewritten letter

2558
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 1: from the prolific writer. Another one, Hunter Thompson, former Rolling

2559
02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:39,840
Speaker 1: Stone writer, a tremendous author in his era, wrote a

2560
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:42,360
Speaker 1: letter to Jim Ursey, who you know in the past

2561
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:45,840
Speaker 1: is he's an interesting guy. In his own right. But

2562
02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:48,920
Speaker 1: for Hunter, Thompson just said, you know you don't want

2563
02:03:49,200 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 1: Warren Sapp to that freak. Sap comes crashing in. Uh,

2564
02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:56,040
Speaker 1: he says Peyton Manning will be in trouble. Don't draft him.

2565
02:03:56,080 --> 02:03:59,960
Speaker 1: Draft Ryan Leaf. It's crazy. It's one of the funny

2566
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:02,760
Speaker 1: things I've heard recently in the NFL. Thank you very

2567
02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:04,960
Speaker 1: much to Will Brinson for joining us. When we come

2568
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:07,480
Speaker 1: back NFL True and False, will re engage with you

2569
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:10,000
Speaker 1: about our topics of the day. Two of them the

2570
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:13,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo defense, Are they in fact the best defense in

2571
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:15,800
Speaker 1: the AFC East? Give us a call on that and

2572
02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:18,240
Speaker 1: training camp two and a half weeks away. What's the

2573
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:21,080
Speaker 1: best part about training camp from a fan's perspective. Give

2574
02:04:21,160 --> 02:04:23,200
Speaker 1: us a call eight oh three oh five fifty, the

2575
02:04:23,320 --> 02:04:26,640
Speaker 1: number two call locally or outside Buffalo. It's a toll

2576
02:04:26,720 --> 02:04:29,600
Speaker 1: free call at one eight eight eight five fifty two

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02:04:29,680 --> 02:04:32,240
Speaker 1: five fifty, or you can weigh in on Twitter at

2578
02:04:32,320 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 1: one Bill Side Back with more One Bill Slide from

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Speaker 1: One Goes Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

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02:04:50,120 --> 02:04:52,200
Speaker 1: the show One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. John

2581
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:54,800
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker coming to you have on a

2582
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:57,040
Speaker 1: beautiful day in Orchpark. Do you take a peek outside, Steve,

2583
02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 1: It's great and I know it is ridiculous looking, and

2584
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:01,680
Speaker 1: we were talking about that. We had that huge conversation

2585
02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:07,720
Speaker 1: about the letter that upon Hunter Thompson wrote to Jim

2586
02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:11,400
Speaker 1: Ursey and how you know there's a how an al

2587
02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 1: Pacino movie called Danny Collins. I don't think I ever

2588
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:18,120
Speaker 1: saw that. It's twenty fifteen, I think movie, and it

2589
02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:20,760
Speaker 1: kind of centers around a letter like that. Wait a minute,

2590
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:23,520
Speaker 1: is that the one. He's a former actor, a child actor. No, no, no, no, no,

2591
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:26,840
Speaker 1: he is. It's kind of it's a fiction, but it

2592
02:05:26,960 --> 02:05:29,080
Speaker 1: was kind of based on something that happened, right, So

2593
02:05:29,320 --> 02:05:31,480
Speaker 1: here's what happened that. The real story is that John

2594
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:34,920
Speaker 1: Lennon wrote a letter to a songwriter and it was

2595
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 1: a really heartfelt letter that John Lennon wrote, writes this

2596
02:05:37,680 --> 02:05:40,880
Speaker 1: legendary music, and it never got to the guy he meanted.

2597
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:42,560
Speaker 1: This guy intercepted it and said, wow, this is kind

2598
02:05:42,600 --> 02:05:43,880
Speaker 1: of cool. He kept it and then later on in

2599
02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:46,120
Speaker 1: life it came to the guy who was the songwriter

2600
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:50,640
Speaker 1: and he got this letter that kind of affected him

2601
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:55,920
Speaker 1: because it came from this legendary rock Star. So Danny

2602
02:05:56,840 --> 02:05:59,360
Speaker 1: in the movie Danny Collins was this guy who finally,

2603
02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:01,840
Speaker 1: after all these years, got this letter from John Lennon

2604
02:06:02,440 --> 02:06:04,760
Speaker 1: about how great he thought his songs were that he

2605
02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:07,120
Speaker 1: was writing. So now at this point he's a kind

2606
02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:09,520
Speaker 1: of I don't want to give the movie, but this

2607
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:13,920
Speaker 1: letter written by this guy two or three decades before,

2608
02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:18,960
Speaker 1: and that letter that Hunter Thompson wrote to UH, to

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02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:21,680
Speaker 1: Jim Hersey owner kind of reminds me of that. It

2610
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:25,720
Speaker 1: kind of surfaces twenty years after the fact, and you think, Wow,

2611
02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 1: how that affected Yeah, you know, how could have didn't

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02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:31,480
Speaker 1: affect anything? But it could have, you know, I mean

2613
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:35,840
Speaker 1: you think the ripple effected things like that? Feels like

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02:06:35,920 --> 02:06:38,800
Speaker 1: it affected him now, probably not. I think they did,

2615
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:41,400
Speaker 1: all right, I think they got the right guy. They did. Actually, yeah,

2616
02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:43,080
Speaker 1: they really. You know why he got the right because

2617
02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:45,120
Speaker 1: he had Bill Polian working for and that's the reason

2618
02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:49,600
Speaker 1: another he had what didn't everything to do with Hunter Thompson. Hey,

2619
02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:53,680
Speaker 1: I'll take her phone calls or tweets. There's a conversation

2620
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 1: for you. Let's talk about what Bill thinks. He's recounted

2621
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:01,160
Speaker 1: that story at gazillion tu no, no, no. The draft

2622
02:07:01,240 --> 02:07:04,400
Speaker 1: the draft story and you know how he got it right? Yeah,

2623
02:07:05,480 --> 02:07:08,400
Speaker 1: along with about a zillionion love to hear your thoughts

2624
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:11,040
Speaker 1: on our Twitter topic today. It's training camp two and

2625
02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 1: a half weeks away. What's from a fan's perspective, what's

2626
02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:16,200
Speaker 1: the best thing about Bills training camp? We got lines

2627
02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:18,840
Speaker 1: open to talk about that. Eight oh three five fifty

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02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:21,440
Speaker 1: and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:24,040
Speaker 1: five fifty. Got about twenty five minutes left in the show,

2630
02:07:24,160 --> 02:07:26,400
Speaker 1: or let us know what you think about the defense?

2631
02:07:26,440 --> 02:07:28,600
Speaker 1: Will the Bills be the best defense in the AFC East?

2632
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:31,080
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that for a show. We got in

2633
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:32,720
Speaker 1: here today and there's nothing going on here. I mean,

2634
02:07:32,760 --> 02:07:34,720
Speaker 1: the place is a ghost town. It's a dust poll

2635
02:07:35,240 --> 02:07:38,280
Speaker 1: of a of a facility right now. Nobody's here and

2636
02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:42,000
Speaker 1: for we've got a lot to talk about today. Yeah,

2637
02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:44,720
Speaker 1: I got a couple of other things they've just leoked over. Yeah,

2638
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:47,520
Speaker 1: all right, But it's been a fun show to do

2639
02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:49,240
Speaker 1: because of you know, all the stuff that we've been

2640
02:07:49,280 --> 02:07:51,280
Speaker 1: talking about, and we haven't had anything to do because

2641
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:54,080
Speaker 1: we missed each other. Yeah, that must be yet. Seven

2642
02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:57,400
Speaker 1: rookie officials in the one twenty one NFL officials this year.

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02:07:57,400 --> 02:07:59,840
Speaker 1: The roster officials came out late last week. Well, we

2644
02:08:00,120 --> 02:08:03,320
Speaker 1: notice that there's new blood, that there's seven rookies working games.

2645
02:08:03,320 --> 02:08:04,880
Speaker 1: Do you think, well, they have any impact on the

2646
02:08:04,920 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 1: game at all? Now, okay, they'll probably be better. Yeah,

2647
02:08:08,880 --> 02:08:12,440
Speaker 1: probably better. Well, you won't have Ed hockey Ley talking about,

2648
02:08:12,520 --> 02:08:15,480
Speaker 1: you know, giving up his life story over offsides on

2649
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:18,160
Speaker 1: third down. You know, what do you make of the

2650
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:22,520
Speaker 1: trend for these retiring officials, including a territory the Pittsburgh

2651
02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:26,240
Speaker 1: native leaving to go into TV. I mean, what do

2652
02:08:26,280 --> 02:08:28,200
Speaker 1: you make of that they're gonna be more officials on

2653
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 1: TV than there will be on the field. There's money,

2654
02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:33,520
Speaker 1: less pressure. Yeah, but do we need that sort of analysis?

2655
02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:35,560
Speaker 1: Do we need that much of tell you what, it's interesting.

2656
02:08:35,720 --> 02:08:38,520
Speaker 1: I find it interesting, even as an analyst to hear

2657
02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:40,680
Speaker 1: those guys. And this is the most fun thing for

2658
02:08:40,760 --> 02:08:45,200
Speaker 1: me and I related to what people may think after

2659
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:48,160
Speaker 1: games we get into you know, we're the announcing team

2660
02:08:48,400 --> 02:08:50,680
Speaker 1: on occasion, we're like the first people out of the stadium.

2661
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:53,160
Speaker 1: We got a police escort whom we're off to these

2662
02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:56,280
Speaker 1: it's important, right, it's important to catch that last flight out.

2663
02:08:56,920 --> 02:08:58,640
Speaker 1: So we're in there and what we do is you

2664
02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:00,560
Speaker 1: get in there, and you get there as as you can,

2665
02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:03,760
Speaker 1: and so invariably you're waiting around right like you do

2666
02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:05,840
Speaker 1: at airports. You gotta get there early enough. And so

2667
02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:10,840
Speaker 1: we go into whatever skyclub, this club, that President's Club, whatever,

2668
02:09:10,920 --> 02:09:13,680
Speaker 1: and you're in there having a pot before the flunt plane.

2669
02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:17,320
Speaker 1: Invariably the official aiding crew is in there, so you

2670
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:19,080
Speaker 1: get to talk to Ed Hockeyley, you get to talk

2671
02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:21,120
Speaker 1: to Mike Carey, you get to talk to all these

2672
02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:26,440
Speaker 1: guys you know, you know, Triplet, all these gens territory,

2673
02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:29,520
Speaker 1: and you start talking to them about the game. And

2674
02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:33,200
Speaker 1: the most unbelievable conversations I hear are the ones that

2675
02:09:33,280 --> 02:09:37,360
Speaker 1: are completely different than anything you'll ever hear, the conversations

2676
02:09:37,360 --> 02:09:40,320
Speaker 1: between officials, because unlike what most people think, particularly when

2677
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:43,000
Speaker 1: your team loses, you think the officials have it's all rigged.

2678
02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:44,800
Speaker 1: They talk to them about dada da, and they think

2679
02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:47,160
Speaker 1: the announcers like us, we have a we hope who

2680
02:09:47,280 --> 02:09:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, so we were pulling for one team or

2681
02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:52,080
Speaker 1: that's nothing. It could be further from the truth. But

2682
02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:55,000
Speaker 1: you hear the officials talk about the game and how

2683
02:09:55,080 --> 02:09:56,960
Speaker 1: they look at it and what they were thinking at

2684
02:09:57,000 --> 02:10:00,960
Speaker 1: times of it. It is it's like another planet because

2685
02:10:01,080 --> 02:10:03,520
Speaker 1: they absolutely don't care. In fact, they don't even know

2686
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:07,120
Speaker 1: who the players are. A lot of times they're there

2687
02:10:07,800 --> 02:10:09,600
Speaker 1: number sixty seven was that that I thought? You know,

2688
02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:12,240
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know this number sixty three was like, well,

2689
02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:14,520
Speaker 1: number sixty three was Mike Munty. He's a Hall of Famer,

2690
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, you know, he's like these you don't care

2691
02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:19,080
Speaker 1: the number sixty three was that that I didn't And

2692
02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:21,920
Speaker 1: then they're talking about this and they talk about it

2693
02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:25,800
Speaker 1: is a complete It's like listen reading a fact sheet.

2694
02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:29,880
Speaker 1: There is no emotion in it. They don't care who

2695
02:10:29,960 --> 02:10:31,680
Speaker 1: the player was, what it was, but they're trying to

2696
02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:33,760
Speaker 1: get this and this and will and this happened. It

2697
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:37,280
Speaker 1: is the most interesting conversation because it's like from somebody

2698
02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:43,760
Speaker 1: who truly sees the game like nobody else does, and

2699
02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:46,280
Speaker 1: it's their conversations are really interesting. So that's why I

2700
02:10:46,320 --> 02:10:48,280
Speaker 1: think some of these guys, it's really interesting to hear

2701
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:50,800
Speaker 1: him talk on TV about what they're talking about about

2702
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:52,920
Speaker 1: what happens on the field. Yeah, Mike Perera is very

2703
02:10:53,000 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 1: good at it. Uh. Gene Stator is a phenomenal guy.

2704
02:10:57,880 --> 02:11:01,640
Speaker 1: He's got a great sense of human he's got he

2705
02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:05,360
Speaker 1: sees the game clearly, he's got a great handle on

2706
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:08,320
Speaker 1: on the big picture. Um, he was the guy. If

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02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:10,120
Speaker 1: you Bill's fans will remember this, I don't know if

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02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:12,520
Speaker 1: you do a Monday night game in New England where

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02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:16,640
Speaker 1: they had the inadvertent whistle. I was standing over there

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02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:18,840
Speaker 1: and I was getting warm at he came over during

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02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:20,600
Speaker 1: a time out and saying he looked at me and

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02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:26,160
Speaker 1: he just said, like one huge, long expletive deleted above

2713
02:11:26,200 --> 02:11:29,280
Speaker 1: that about that call. He was he was, He goes, we,

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02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:33,040
Speaker 1: he goes, we screwed that up six different ways. He

2715
02:11:33,280 --> 02:11:35,600
Speaker 1: was so angry. He goes, we got out of it,

2716
02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:36,880
Speaker 1: and he goes, I just went and he goes. I

2717
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:39,800
Speaker 1: told Belichick. He goes, Bill, you came out of it

2718
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:42,120
Speaker 1: all right, because you know, you know, he's kind of

2719
02:11:42,120 --> 02:11:44,120
Speaker 1: explained it to ways as we. He goes, we screwed

2720
02:11:44,160 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 1: it up. This happened, This happened, but this happened in

2721
02:11:47,200 --> 02:11:50,000
Speaker 1: really you know, he goes. He knew exactly what happened,

2722
02:11:50,240 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 1: even even without seeing it on replay. He goes and

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02:11:53,160 --> 02:11:57,760
Speaker 1: he goes, we he was so upset that he lost

2724
02:11:57,840 --> 02:11:59,600
Speaker 1: a chance to work the super Bowl that year because

2725
02:11:59,640 --> 02:12:01,840
Speaker 1: of that, Because of that, he probably did. I mean

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02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:04,080
Speaker 1: it comes down to because and unlike what a lot

2727
02:12:04,120 --> 02:12:06,560
Speaker 1: of people do think they get the NFL. I don't

2728
02:12:06,600 --> 02:12:07,840
Speaker 1: know if they do. I know they don't do it

2729
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:10,640
Speaker 1: in the NHL, or they'd be better. But the NFL,

2730
02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:14,880
Speaker 1: they are scrutinized weekend week out about every call, including

2731
02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:18,800
Speaker 1: non calls they get, they get raked over the coals

2732
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:21,960
Speaker 1: at one at a two twelve park hav on a

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02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:24,760
Speaker 1: weekly basis, on a weekly basis, game by game, every

2734
02:12:24,840 --> 02:12:27,560
Speaker 1: call they get, they get scrutinized on I'm gonna switch gears.

2735
02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:29,640
Speaker 1: This happened when I was out. I believe you were working.

2736
02:12:29,720 --> 02:12:32,320
Speaker 1: It was the Thursday of that one week Tampa Bay

2737
02:12:32,360 --> 02:12:35,800
Speaker 1: Bucks quarterback Jamis Winston three game suspension first three games

2738
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:40,000
Speaker 1: for violation of the Personal Conduct Policy September twenty seventeen

2739
02:12:40,040 --> 02:12:43,920
Speaker 1: incident involving what an uber driver out in Arizona. Steve,

2740
02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:45,800
Speaker 1: this is why I have a hard time to get

2741
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:50,160
Speaker 1: behind Jamis Winston. Talented, Yes, first round draft pick. This

2742
02:12:50,320 --> 02:12:52,200
Speaker 1: is the kind of this is the kind of character

2743
02:12:52,360 --> 02:12:55,960
Speaker 1: question mark that kills a team. Yeah, well, I mean

2744
02:12:56,040 --> 02:12:59,120
Speaker 1: that is your franchise quarterback. He is not a rookie anymore, right,

2745
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:01,880
Speaker 1: Jamison should be beyond this sort of thing, and yet

2746
02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:05,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna be out three games for something stupid off

2747
02:13:05,560 --> 02:13:08,800
Speaker 1: the field. Stupid. Um, you probably talked about it with

2748
02:13:08,920 --> 02:13:10,720
Speaker 1: Joe or Chris when you were on without me, right,

2749
02:13:11,200 --> 02:13:13,480
Speaker 1: anything to add to that, just try. That's the kind

2750
02:13:13,480 --> 02:13:16,160
Speaker 1: of thing where I blame the Bucks. I mean, you

2751
02:13:16,280 --> 02:13:20,040
Speaker 1: knew that Jamis Winston had character questions. Um, yes, he's

2752
02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:21,920
Speaker 1: been all right since he's been in the NFL. But

2753
02:13:22,240 --> 02:13:24,240
Speaker 1: when that comes up and bite you, and when you're

2754
02:13:24,280 --> 02:13:26,920
Speaker 1: without him now for the first three week games this season,

2755
02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:29,880
Speaker 1: that's on you, Tampa Bay. That's on you for choosing him,

2756
02:13:30,200 --> 02:13:33,760
Speaker 1: investing in him as your your top quarterback. That's on you.

2757
02:13:34,200 --> 02:13:36,640
Speaker 1: You can see that coming. Well they're yeah, they're taking

2758
02:13:36,680 --> 02:13:41,200
Speaker 1: a hit for it, but it's on Jamis Winston. He's

2759
02:13:41,240 --> 02:13:44,280
Speaker 1: the problem. And so why bring that problem into your

2760
02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:47,480
Speaker 1: team and make up the starting quarterball. Here's why. Here's

2761
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:50,000
Speaker 1: why he has been He has been more than clean

2762
02:13:51,040 --> 02:13:53,720
Speaker 1: in every other instance except this one. For his entire

2763
02:13:53,960 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 1: NFL career. There were giant red flags before. There were

2764
02:13:57,120 --> 02:13:59,560
Speaker 1: some red flags, no question about it. But here's the thing.

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02:14:00,280 --> 02:14:03,120
Speaker 1: Um you meet and I met and talked with him.

2766
02:14:03,280 --> 02:14:06,400
Speaker 1: I've spoken I've spoken with his teammates. He has um

2767
02:14:07,480 --> 02:14:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, he's his talents and all that, and I'm

2768
02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:10,960
Speaker 1: not gonna make excuses for him because there's no excuse

2769
02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:13,680
Speaker 1: for doing what he allegedly did to the uber driver.

2770
02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:16,880
Speaker 1: He's out of line, whether he whether he's drunk or not. Um,

2771
02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:23,000
Speaker 1: he's not evil, and he's not a guy who is

2772
02:14:23,160 --> 02:14:25,560
Speaker 1: somebody who you wouldn't want to introduce to your friends

2773
02:14:25,640 --> 02:14:30,240
Speaker 1: or whatever he's got. He absolutely has uh had a

2774
02:14:30,920 --> 02:14:33,040
Speaker 1: has had a number of bad moments one most of

2775
02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:38,440
Speaker 1: them in college, but then there's this one. He has

2776
02:14:38,480 --> 02:14:40,440
Speaker 1: a lot of what you want in an NFL quarterback.

2777
02:14:40,520 --> 02:14:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna blame that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for

2778
02:14:43,400 --> 02:14:46,480
Speaker 1: taking him, because the guy's playing a pretty good player.

2779
02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:48,760
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what he's gonna he should pay

2780
02:14:48,840 --> 02:14:52,000
Speaker 1: the consequences for what he did uh or allegedly did

2781
02:14:52,040 --> 02:14:53,920
Speaker 1: to this uber driver. No question about it as a

2782
02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:57,840
Speaker 1: bad thing. But then then again, or murph, you just

2783
02:14:57,960 --> 02:15:01,680
Speaker 1: read that in your sports update. The GM of the

2784
02:15:01,840 --> 02:15:05,280
Speaker 1: Cardinals got caught under the influence while he was behind

2785
02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:08,320
Speaker 1: the wheel in Arizona. So, I mean, it's not an

2786
02:15:08,360 --> 02:15:11,080
Speaker 1: isolated incident just with Jamis Winston. But there's no question.

2787
02:15:11,120 --> 02:15:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if the guy, but if he paid, if

2788
02:15:13,040 --> 02:15:16,000
Speaker 1: he paid his penance, he's getting doing the thing. And

2789
02:15:16,120 --> 02:15:18,000
Speaker 1: this is the only transgression he's had since it's been

2790
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:22,320
Speaker 1: an NFL player. Okay, I mean I get it. It's

2791
02:15:22,400 --> 02:15:25,760
Speaker 1: battling the bucks. You close your eyes. So that character issue,

2792
02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:28,640
Speaker 1: he had a big, big character question coming into the draft.

2793
02:15:28,920 --> 02:15:31,960
Speaker 1: Then you pay the consequences, and in this case, they

2794
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:34,000
Speaker 1: lose the quarterback for three game. Three games. That's big,

2795
02:15:34,160 --> 02:15:35,840
Speaker 1: all right. NFL Tour or False is brought to you

2796
02:15:35,960 --> 02:15:38,880
Speaker 1: by Yancey's Fancy New York's artist in chief. CBS sports

2797
02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:44,960
Speaker 1: dot Com predicts Roquan Smith, number eight overall linebacker Chicago Bears,

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02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:47,600
Speaker 1: will be the rookie defensive Player of the Year. I'm

2799
02:15:47,640 --> 02:15:49,840
Speaker 1: gonna just immediately say false and say it's gonna be

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02:15:49,960 --> 02:15:52,560
Speaker 1: Dremaine Edmonds. Right, that's the Buffalo way way to do it.

2801
02:15:53,480 --> 02:15:55,840
Speaker 1: There you go, right, I'm not playing Devil's advocate here.

2802
02:15:55,880 --> 02:15:58,800
Speaker 1: I think Dremaine Edmonds is in position to have more

2803
02:15:58,800 --> 02:16:01,800
Speaker 1: of an impact than Roquan Smith might have with Chicago false.

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02:16:01,880 --> 02:16:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say false, but for a different reason. Not

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02:16:03,960 --> 02:16:08,320
Speaker 1: only Bradley Chubb won't be the defensive MVP. Rookie MVP.

2806
02:16:09,040 --> 02:16:14,160
Speaker 1: What's the real? Quan Smith? Smith won't be Bears Now.

2807
02:16:14,240 --> 02:16:16,960
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have a rookie middle linebacker be rookie

2808
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:21,040
Speaker 1: defensive MVP of the league. It's gonna be a guy

2809
02:16:21,120 --> 02:16:24,320
Speaker 1: like Bradley Chubb who's a pass rusher or a cornerback

2810
02:16:24,320 --> 02:16:26,320
Speaker 1: who's gonna get a lot of interceptions. You're not gonna

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02:16:26,360 --> 02:16:28,520
Speaker 1: have a middle linebacker be that. And I don't care

2812
02:16:28,520 --> 02:16:30,880
Speaker 1: if he's playing middle linebacker for the Chicago Bears and

2813
02:16:30,920 --> 02:16:33,480
Speaker 1: it's an iconic position, it's not gonna happen. It's not

2814
02:16:33,520 --> 02:16:35,440
Speaker 1: gonna happen for Tremaine Edmonds either, no matter what he does,

2815
02:16:35,560 --> 02:16:39,160
Speaker 1: unless he has seven interceptions. Middle linebackers are not going

2816
02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:43,280
Speaker 1: to be defensive MVPs. It happens with it's got to

2817
02:16:43,280 --> 02:16:45,080
Speaker 1: be a corner, or it's got to be a safety,

2818
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:47,760
Speaker 1: or it's got to be a pass rusher NFL True

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02:16:47,800 --> 02:16:50,720
Speaker 1: or false. Part two. Jason Garrett is on the hot

2820
02:16:50,760 --> 02:16:53,920
Speaker 1: seat in Dallas. John McClain, the fine sportswriter from the

2821
02:16:53,959 --> 02:16:57,120
Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle had a list of eight coaching for the

2822
02:16:57,280 --> 02:17:00,360
Speaker 1: jobs this year. Hugh Jackson and the Browns, Dirk from

2823
02:17:00,400 --> 02:17:02,960
Speaker 1: the Bucks bench, Joseph of the Broncos, Top Bowls of

2824
02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:05,879
Speaker 1: the Jets, John Gruden and Washington, Adam Gates with the Dolphins,

2825
02:17:06,360 --> 02:17:09,520
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis of the Bengals, and Jason Garrett. He says

2826
02:17:09,560 --> 02:17:12,440
Speaker 1: he's on the hot seat in Dallas. John McLean rights

2827
02:17:12,440 --> 02:17:15,879
Speaker 1: after replacing Wade Phillips's interim coach in twenty ten. Garrett's

2828
02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:19,960
Speaker 1: made the playoffs twice with one victory. He was NFL

2829
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:22,240
Speaker 1: coaching there in twenty sixteen. He's got a winning record.

2830
02:17:22,640 --> 02:17:25,480
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has shown remarkable patients that patients could run

2831
02:17:25,560 --> 02:17:28,160
Speaker 1: out if they missed the playoffs again. Jason Garrett on

2832
02:17:28,240 --> 02:17:30,680
Speaker 1: the hot seat in Dallas. I say true, Steve. I

2833
02:17:30,800 --> 02:17:32,960
Speaker 1: think he is definitely on the hot seat. Something's got

2834
02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:35,720
Speaker 1: a change there. I say false. For the one reason

2835
02:17:35,879 --> 02:17:38,640
Speaker 1: is the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. The number

2836
02:17:38,680 --> 02:17:42,280
Speaker 1: one job isn't coaching football. It's handling the owner, and

2837
02:17:42,440 --> 02:17:44,800
Speaker 1: he does a better job of that than anybody in

2838
02:17:44,879 --> 02:17:48,000
Speaker 1: the league could. Jason Garrett is a really good football mind.

2839
02:17:48,040 --> 02:17:50,600
Speaker 1: He's a smart guy. He's obviously everybody will make fun

2840
02:17:50,640 --> 02:17:52,720
Speaker 1: of him for being a Princeton grad, but he also

2841
02:17:52,920 --> 02:17:56,880
Speaker 1: handles the players and that football operation extremely well, and

2842
02:17:56,959 --> 02:17:59,560
Speaker 1: he handles the owner as well as anybody in the league.

2843
02:17:59,600 --> 02:18:03,640
Speaker 1: Could NAT's job one for the Dallas Cowboys head coach?

2844
02:18:03,720 --> 02:18:08,840
Speaker 1: And I think I think Jim. I think Jerry Jones

2845
02:18:08,920 --> 02:18:12,840
Speaker 1: understands that. I think he appreciates Garrett in a way

2846
02:18:12,879 --> 02:18:14,959
Speaker 1: that nobody else does. And I don't think he's ready

2847
02:18:15,000 --> 02:18:18,000
Speaker 1: to get rid of him for the reasons that John

2848
02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:21,480
Speaker 1: McClean may have a source or somebody who tells him

2849
02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:24,199
Speaker 1: that it may happen. And I'll defer to John McLean,

2850
02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:27,280
Speaker 1: because you're right, he's a really respected writer and has

2851
02:18:27,320 --> 02:18:28,920
Speaker 1: been doing it for a long time. But I say no,

2852
02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:31,439
Speaker 1: just for the fact that it is the Dallas Cowboys

2853
02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:34,240
Speaker 1: and they have an owner who knows what he's doing

2854
02:18:34,480 --> 02:18:36,960
Speaker 1: on the football field. He's taught himself. He's a general manager,

2855
02:18:37,040 --> 02:18:39,320
Speaker 1: has been for a couple of decades. He puts together

2856
02:18:39,360 --> 02:18:41,760
Speaker 1: a good roster every year, no question about it. But

2857
02:18:41,879 --> 02:18:43,720
Speaker 1: I think more so than anything else, he understands how

2858
02:18:43,800 --> 02:18:45,000
Speaker 1: hard it is to be a head coach, and I

2859
02:18:45,080 --> 02:18:48,120
Speaker 1: think he likes Jason Garrett too much to get rid

2860
02:18:48,120 --> 02:18:50,360
Speaker 1: of him, and I felt true or false? Part three? Finally,

2861
02:18:50,920 --> 02:18:53,039
Speaker 1: but Jets have the right guy in Sam Donald. We've

2862
02:18:53,040 --> 02:18:54,560
Speaker 1: read the story a couple of times in the update.

2863
02:18:54,600 --> 02:18:57,840
Speaker 1: That's what Josh mccollin said. The quote from McCown with

2864
02:18:58,040 --> 02:19:00,280
Speaker 1: Sam way of the right guy. He's wired the right way,

2865
02:19:00,320 --> 02:19:02,480
Speaker 1: he loves the game, he asks the right questions, He's

2866
02:19:02,480 --> 02:19:04,879
Speaker 1: willing to work. That's what he told Series Sex. I'm

2867
02:19:05,080 --> 02:19:08,760
Speaker 1: NFL Radio Josh McCollen Did the Jets have the right

2868
02:19:08,840 --> 02:19:11,480
Speaker 1: guy and Sam Donald? True? False? I don't have a

2869
02:19:11,520 --> 02:19:13,640
Speaker 1: strong feeling about this one, but I'm gonna go false

2870
02:19:13,879 --> 02:19:16,120
Speaker 1: for this reason. I thought before the draft, going into

2871
02:19:16,120 --> 02:19:18,760
Speaker 1: the draft, I looking at these quarterbacks. You remember we

2872
02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:21,680
Speaker 1: agonized over it, and I looked at all of them

2873
02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:24,520
Speaker 1: and thought, what do you get with Sam Donald? What

2874
02:19:24,640 --> 02:19:27,280
Speaker 1: does he do well? What is he excellent at? And

2875
02:19:27,480 --> 02:19:29,440
Speaker 1: never came up with an answer. I think he's good,

2876
02:19:29,800 --> 02:19:32,640
Speaker 1: he'll be capable. Is he the right guy? And by

2877
02:19:32,720 --> 02:19:34,600
Speaker 1: right guy, I guess I'm interpreting that is he the

2878
02:19:34,640 --> 02:19:37,000
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback for the Jets for the next ten to

2879
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:40,160
Speaker 1: twelve years. I don't think so. I'm gonna go false,

2880
02:19:40,200 --> 02:19:42,199
Speaker 1: but I don't have a strong conviction that. Now, how's

2881
02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:44,920
Speaker 1: come when we do the Roquan Smith and as a

2882
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:47,600
Speaker 1: defensive Rookie of the Year and you say no, because

2883
02:19:47,720 --> 02:19:49,560
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds is going to be the rookie, you don't

2884
02:19:49,600 --> 02:19:51,760
Speaker 1: say no, they didn't get the right guy, because we

2885
02:19:51,959 --> 02:19:54,039
Speaker 1: have our guy. Josh Allen is our guy. I think

2886
02:19:54,080 --> 02:19:56,200
Speaker 1: the Bills have the right guy for them. I sure do,

2887
02:19:56,480 --> 02:19:59,240
Speaker 1: And I said, I mean that's my thing. Yeah, Josh

2888
02:19:59,320 --> 02:20:03,160
Speaker 1: Allen is a great fit here. His attitude, with the

2889
02:20:04,160 --> 02:20:06,800
Speaker 1: attitude of the coaching staff, with what the culture they're

2890
02:20:06,800 --> 02:20:09,280
Speaker 1: trying to build here, the Bills definitely have the right

2891
02:20:09,320 --> 02:20:10,720
Speaker 1: guy for what they're trying to do. I agree, and

2892
02:20:10,720 --> 02:20:12,440
Speaker 1: I don't have the same feeling about I think. I

2893
02:20:12,480 --> 02:20:15,440
Speaker 1: think Sam Darnold it's interesting because it's one of those flashes. Well,

2894
02:20:15,520 --> 02:20:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, we'll know in ten years, but I think

2895
02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:20,880
Speaker 1: it does. And I think too, it's hard to take

2896
02:20:21,600 --> 02:20:25,520
Speaker 1: Josh McCown seriously because Josh McCown is the kind of

2897
02:20:25,560 --> 02:20:28,400
Speaker 1: guy who needs knows that it's his job to say that.

2898
02:20:29,720 --> 02:20:32,480
Speaker 1: You know, he's a great teammate, he's a great leader,

2899
02:20:32,680 --> 02:20:36,280
Speaker 1: he's been a really productive quarterback. He's been a survivor

2900
02:20:36,360 --> 02:20:38,800
Speaker 1: in the league for a long time. He got the

2901
02:20:38,879 --> 02:20:41,840
Speaker 1: Jets through some tough times last year and played tough,

2902
02:20:42,200 --> 02:20:45,199
Speaker 1: hard nosed football. He's already said that he's gonna back

2903
02:20:45,280 --> 02:20:48,720
Speaker 1: Sam Darneld when it's his time to take over. So

2904
02:20:49,320 --> 02:20:53,840
Speaker 1: given the source, I say false, Okay, NFL true or false?

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02:20:53,959 --> 02:20:56,760
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's Artists and Cheese.

2906
02:20:57,040 --> 02:20:59,440
Speaker 1: Steve and I back with more One Bill's Life presented

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Speaker 1: by Collide Health. From One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

2908
02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:18,200
Speaker 1: Bill's radio time for What have we learned from today's show?

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02:21:27,680 --> 02:21:29,600
Speaker 1: What have we learned today from today's show? We learned

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02:21:29,600 --> 02:21:32,720
Speaker 1: that vacation is good, but you gotta come back to

2914
02:21:32,800 --> 02:21:35,039
Speaker 1: work eventually. And Stephen, I came back to work today

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Speaker 1: and it was fine. It was good. It was a

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Speaker 1: good joke. They got through it. Yeah, more so, I

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Speaker 1: mean we were we're sprinting to the finish. We're excited

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Speaker 1: about it. Yeah. Will Brinson on the show from CBS

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Speaker 1: dot com he is a senior NFL writer or CBS

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Speaker 1: dot com. We talked about the new NFL rule now

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Speaker 1: a fifteen yard penalty if non plane personnel jump out

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Speaker 1: out of the field and clear a space for you

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Speaker 1: get rid of snow, clearing off the snow on the

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Speaker 1: field for a kicker. It happened in the Bill's Colts

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Speaker 1: game last year and there was no penalty. They shoot

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Speaker 1: the player. The non players off the field. So well,

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Speaker 1: Brenton talked about that rules change now fifteen yards if

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Speaker 1: non playing personnel get on the field. Here's what he

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Speaker 1: had to say about him. It was in the game

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Speaker 1: day operations manual that the sideline crew or the you know,

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Speaker 1: the game the field crew, whoever it is game day

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Speaker 1: crew can't come out there and clear the snow. But

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Speaker 1: the most the only punishment that could be issued as

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Speaker 1: a warning, right, So in theory it was kind of

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Speaker 1: a smart move if he didn't on purpose, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know that they did it, but by Chuck Bagando

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Speaker 1: to send them out there to clear it off during

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Speaker 1: a time out because the officials can't actually penalize you.

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Speaker 1: And now the rule has been changed and edited in

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Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen NFL Rulebook, where in this case, had

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Speaker 1: the Colts done that, they would be immediately penalized fifteen yards.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's the discretion of the referees. The rules changed,

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Speaker 1: it's in effect now, and it's a good one. I guess,

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Speaker 1: as you pointed out, we won't see that again for

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Speaker 1: twenty years probably, right, I've never seen any well, listen,

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Speaker 1: we talked about the weather today and you know we've

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Speaker 1: never seen a game like that in Buffalo, right in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo ever, ever, last one of a kind. And you know,

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Speaker 1: so they put that in there. We'll probably have like

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Speaker 1: five games snow games, snow game not here in Buffalo, everywhere.

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Speaker 1: You know, it'll be it'll be the thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: teams will beginning fifteen yards. Tomorrow show is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a good one. Did you know the Pro Football Researchers

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Speaker 1: are coming to Buffalo this weekend for their annual national convention.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that tomorrow with George Bozica, who is

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Speaker 1: part of the Pro Football Researchers, and you'll let you

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Speaker 1: know what the opportunities are for you to participate. Also

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Speaker 1: Jenny Frentas from MMQB on tomorrow's show. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: join us. We're back. We're working every day now, Thanks

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Speaker 1: very much, except Friday Friday. Thanks very much for tuning

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Speaker 1: in today. Want to thank our assistance Jeff Colton and

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Speaker 1: Thomas Honold or Kelly rude A, producer Jay Harris, and

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Speaker 1: we will see you tomorrow at twelve at twelve noon.

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Speaker 1: See I'm still getting used to being back. Twelve noon tomorrow,

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