1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: roll through. As we roll through the what is it? 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: What is it? It's the Tuesday edition of the program. Right, 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm flying down to South Florida. Will be with Buck 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Thursday Friday in Miami. It's gonna be fun. Can't wait 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: for that. All right. There's a scene in season four 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: of Succession, episode two aired a couple of weeks ago 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: where the main character, the dad, the media baron, is 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: dressing his children and I feel like we need to 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: get this clip and just keep it on constant refrain 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: because I heard it and I was like, this is 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: so amazing. And the main character, the media baron, who 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: is a Rupert Murdock like figure, says to his children, 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: I love you, but you are not serious people. And 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: I thought it was such a perfect line. And I 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: know there are a lot of parents and grandparents out 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: there that are like, oh my goodness, they just distilled 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: my entire life. I love you, but you are not 21 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: serious people. And I feel like many left wing arguments 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: when it really boils down. They're all cosmetic theater. They 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: don't really have substance behind them, because at their essence, 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: they're rooted in emotion, and emotion is frankly the enemy 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: of logic. And so I love you, but you are 26 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: not serious people. Is such an amazing line, and it 27 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: was in season four succession, episode two. I thought about that. 28 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: There's been a big controversy. Right, we still don't have 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: Let's start here. We still don't have the trans shooters 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: manifesto in Nashville. It has now been fifteen days, and 31 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: the left wing has been adroit. They've been skilled, they've 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: been incredibly well trained, and they have turned in Nashville, 33 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: my hometown. They have managed to turn this crazy trans 34 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: shooter into a demo Republicans or racist argument. That's what 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: they've pivoted from. We still don't have the trans shooter manifesto. 36 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris can travel to Nashville, won't meet with the 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: victims of the shooting because they don't want to reinforce 38 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: that this was a crazy trans shooter. Instead, Kamala Harris 39 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: comes here and they try to say, oh, all Tennessee 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: Republicans are racist, right, that's the argument. Now, to be fair, 41 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: Tennessee Republicans did screw this thing up when they didn't 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: vote the crazy white chick out too. They just voted 43 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: the two black guys out, and the crazy white chick 44 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: survived by one vote. Can we just also add to 45 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: that that she begged them not to expel her, and 46 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: then the moment she got her wish, she turned around 47 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: and said, you who failed to expel me did so 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: because you are racist. Yeah. Just see, that is in microcosm, 49 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: what it is to deal with a LIB politician in 50 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: America today. Please please, I beg you. I want to 51 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: keep my job. Fine, you weren't quite as egregious as 52 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: the others. You're letting me keep my job out of racism, sir. 53 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: That is what they did, and if you fell for it, 54 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: you're an imbecile. Frankly, if you were one, Look if 55 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: you wanted to say, hey, on principle, I don't think 56 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: we should be voting anybody out in the Tennessee legislature. 57 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't think this makes sense. I'm going to vote 58 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: against all three. Okay. I can see that argument, because 59 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: you kind of turned them into martyrs. You can see 60 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: that argument. But if you tried to split the baby, 61 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: and You're like, I'm going to toss the two black 62 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: dudes out, but I'm gonna keep the white chick who 63 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: begged for forgiveness and then immediately went outside had those 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: crocodile tears, and then as soon as she survived and 65 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: wasn't kicked to the curb, she immediately said, oh, it's racism. 66 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: That's why I didn't get kicked to the curb. You 67 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: got played. You played yourself. And speaking of playing yourself, 68 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: this is one of the two expelled members of the 69 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: Tennessee Democrat Party. I believe we have this audio. I'll 70 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: queued up and ready to go. Right. So he went 71 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: to Boden, which is a super elite probably what's voting 72 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: costs probably seventy five thousand dollars a year buck, I 73 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: mean probably tuition something like that. Yeah, its same conference 74 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: as my school, Amorost. Not as good as Amoroust, but 75 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: it's pretty good. So in Maine, it is the one 76 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: of the richest whitest schools historically on the East Coast. 77 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: This guy went to that school, all right, And he 78 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: didn't just go to that school. He ran for student 79 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: body president and guys I'm going to ask you to 80 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: stop it if we can. Right at the end of 81 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: his this is the same guy that was expelled that 82 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: now is trying to pretend like he's Malcolm X or 83 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Jr. Here he is, in twenty sixteen 84 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: running for student body president of this elite, super white, 85 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: liberal rich kids school in Maine. Listen, Dustin J. Pierson, 86 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: and I'm running for president of FSG. There are a 87 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: few reasons that were this campaign this year. One has 88 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: to do with representation. How can we represent all voices 89 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: in a conversation. I wanted to do this by partnering 90 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: with organizations from the Boody Democrats to the Boodhy Republicans. 91 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: I want to bring together different voices, dissenting voices, voices 92 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: that may be more liberal or more conservative, in order 93 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: that we can reach a point of sort of the 94 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: radical middle. Okay, pause, great job there, guys. That is 95 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: his campaign message. Bowden bowed. Might you pronounced it Boden? 96 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: All right? Bowden he wanted to be the student body president. 97 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: You need to watch the video that is two thousand 98 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: and sixteen. Here is this past weekend in a Nashville church. 99 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: He now has a monster Afro, same dude listen. Seemed 100 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: like the NR and God lobbyists might win. But all 101 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: that was good news for us. I don't know how 102 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: long this Saturday in the state of Tennessee might last. 103 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: But oh, we have good news. We've got good news 104 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: that Sunday I always comes. All right, now we just 105 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: I want to put him now back to back. Now 106 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: you heard him separated. This isn't the same dude again, 107 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: separated by seven years running for student body president at 108 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: his super white school in Maine that costs seventy five 109 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, talking about how he wants to 110 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: bring everybody together. And then it's suddenly like record scratch 111 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five and he's Martin Luther King Junior. Listen 112 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: to the whole thing, Dustin J. Pearson, and I'm running 113 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: for president of PSG. There are a few reasons that 114 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: we're running this campaign this year. One has to do 115 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: with representation. How can we represent all voices in a conversation. 116 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to do this by partnering with organizations from 117 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: the Boody Democrats to the Boody Republicans. I want to 118 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: bring together different voices dissenting voices, voices that may be 119 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: more liberal, I'm more conservative in order that we can 120 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: reach a point of sort of the radical middle. Seemed 121 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: like the NR and God lobbyists might win. But all 122 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: that was good news for us. I don't know how 123 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: long this Saturday in the state of Tennessee might last. 124 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: But oh, we have good news, folks, We've got good 125 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: news that Sunday always comes. This reminds me Buck of 126 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: you remember the movie eight Mile when Eminem's going up 127 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: against the other elite rapper and Eminem just takes all 128 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: of that. He's a poor white kid, literally eight Mile. 129 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: And he points out that Clarence, if I remember correctly 130 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: was his name, went to Cranbrook, which is the most 131 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: exclusive and expensive private school in the Detroit area for 132 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: anybody listening to us who grew up in the Detroit area. 133 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: And he just says Clarence went to Kranbrook, and everybody 134 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: just loses it because the guy is a total poser, 135 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: right he's and I wish we could curse sometimes he's 136 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: full of crap. He is pretending to be but like 137 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: a cosplay a really bad actor that is trying to 138 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: pretend like it's nineteen sixties in Tennessee. I mean, I 139 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: get nervous if I say y'all that people are gonna 140 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: think that I'm appropriated, you know, but it's such a good, 141 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: confined life. Was super nervous because she's from Michigan. She's 142 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: been in Tennessee for twenty years, and I remember having 143 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: a conversation with her, when can I use the word 144 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: y'all and not sound like I'm a faker? Right like, 145 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: not sound like I'm a real thing. Everybody, y'all is 146 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: the is the best way to say what you're trying 147 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: to say, period. The most efficient is better than you all. Yes, 148 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: you guys is a very is a very. I think 149 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: it's definitely Northeastern, Midwest, mid Atlantic and guy yeah, yeah 150 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: you guys. Um you know, but we say you guys 151 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: in New York y'all makes a lot a lot more sense. 152 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: Or or if you're really a New Yorker in Manhattan, 153 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: you might say all of you, but all of you 154 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: was quite a mouthful. So I think we've got another 155 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: great clip here, too, black because I always love seeing 156 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: this too, and I bet a lot of you are 157 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: also having this reflection. Here is Hillary Clinton, who suddenly 158 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: this is one of the all time great Like I'm 159 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: gonna totally sound different depending on what audience I'm talking to. 160 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven, here's Hillary Clinton from the Chicago 161 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: area pretending that she's Southern. Listen, I don't feel no 162 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: ways tired. Come too far from where I started from. 163 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: Nobody told me that the road would be easy. I 164 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: don't believe he brought me this far to leave me. 165 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: I think we may have just viola the Geneva Convention 166 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: by playing that on the air, because I think we 167 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: actually used to use tapes of Hillary to, you know, 168 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: to torture prisoners to get information back in the day. 169 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: That was brutal Southerners. No, well, really bad Southern accents, 170 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: because you're trying to pretend that you talk like us. Right, 171 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: I'm born and raised in Nashville. I've been around. Movies 172 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: are filled with people with bad Southern accents. We'll talk 173 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: about it, you know, as Southerners like you watch them. 174 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: There's two things that always happen. One, there's a lot 175 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: of really bad Southern accents too. Every time there's a 176 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: movie set in the South, everybody's sweating. Where's really If 177 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: you go back and watch like a time to kill. 178 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: It's as if air conditioning doesn't exist in Mississippi. Like 179 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: I've never actually covered I've never seen someone chewing on 180 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: the long like almost looks like a piece of wheat 181 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: or something that I'm talking about, Yeah straw, Yeah yeah. 182 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: If they do this in movies all the time, I've 183 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: never actually seen this anywhere. You know who was really 184 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: good at that, by the way, Fred Thompson rest in 185 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: peace with former Tennessee senator, also an actor, But the 186 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: politicians used to complain because his whole campaign was I'm 187 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: just gonna get in a red pickup truck and a 188 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: drive around the state. And he was a legitimate elite actor, 189 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: but all of his commercials he was phenomenal. Like I 190 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: can't act. People are like, oh, you know, if you 191 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: watch we used do skits for the sports gambling TV 192 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: show that I would do. If you give me lines 193 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: to recite, I am the worst actor on the planet. 194 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: Like they would all make fun of me because we'd 195 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: have a script and I'd have to memorize lines and 196 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. If you just tell me extipporaneously, hey, 197 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: just go act normal, I can do it. I'm fine 198 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: on TV but if you tell me you have to 199 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: deliver this, I can't do it at all. A lot 200 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: of these dudes are actors, right, I mean that's embarrassing 201 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: if you're represented by that guy. I mean that is 202 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: pretty pathetic. And if Saturday Night Live was actually funny 203 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: or made fun of left wingers, this would be a 204 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: gold mine. Look, there are a lot of a lot 205 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: of people on the Democrat side have gotten away with 206 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: very obvious pandering and acts of you could call it 207 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: in a personal fraudulence, right, I mean, pretending to be 208 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: something that they're not. We all rever you know John 209 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: John Kerry famously all of a sudden is all right, 210 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: I love um shooting out the ducks that go quack quack, 211 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: And I'm you know, I we had the butler gave 212 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: me this wonderful shotgun to use. I borrowed it from him. 213 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he was the least man of the people, 214 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: man of the people you could ever see. And I 215 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: think one of the things, honestly, not to make this 216 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: a Trump conversation, one of the things about Trump that 217 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: people found so appealing is he's like, yeah, I'm a 218 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: billionaire and I like cheeseburgers and that's really you know, 219 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: you know McDonald cheeseburgers, and that's really who I am. 220 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: And I do think that increasingly authenticity is an asset 221 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: report trait. But I think there are a lot of frauds. 222 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: There are a lot of frauds who get very very 223 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: far in politics to this day. Um, and you know, 224 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean even I mean, Tucker has done a lot 225 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: of talk on his show about Alexandria Ocasio Cortez was 226 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: was Sandy Cortez and then realized and you know, went 227 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: to be you, which was at one point the most 228 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: expensive school in America. It was up there with gw 229 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: where I went, yeah, yeah, right up there with gw UM. 230 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, we're being told that 231 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: she's from the Bronx and she had this heart no, 232 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: I mean, she you know, grew up in a household 233 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: with working professionals, who sent her to a seventy thousand 234 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: dollars a year university. And I think it was Riverdale, 235 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: which is actually a not just it's a fancy part 236 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: of New York, but it is in the Bronx. So 237 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: there's this interesting I think Tucker says she's from Westchester anyway, 238 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: but you see a lot of that, a lot of 239 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: people changing around their identity in a way that is 240 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: more suitable politically for them because it makes them seem 241 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: like they're of the It's a false populism is really 242 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: what you're It makes them wrong, just like you. That 243 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: clip is one of the funniest things that I've heard. 244 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean that that look, this little Tennessee Rep. Whatever 245 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: his name is, I don't even know his name. That's funny. 246 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: But Hillary Clinton was legitimately convinced that she was going 247 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: to be the first woman president of the United States, 248 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: and that is the most insulting. Like there's all a 249 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: bad Southern accent. She has a bad Southern accent, and 250 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: then she tries to speak in like Southern Black vernacular, 251 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: which is even more awkward and ridiculous. I would just 252 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: have run I mean, I feel like if you just 253 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: ran that that clip anywhere in the South, like, she 254 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: would not win a single Southern state because it's you 255 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: can't look anymore inauthentic and that, dude, I mean, it's 256 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: just it's it's pathetic. And it also raises the question 257 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: why and this is a good one for all of 258 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: you out there, why do so many Democrats want to 259 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: pretend it's still nineteen fifty four or nineteen sixty five. 260 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: Why are they want the mantle of the civil rights 261 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: movement when you've got all the rights you could possibly need. 262 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: Because their mindset is that they don't have to engage 263 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: with the other side or deal with even facts or reality, 264 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: because they stand in a position of moral righteousness from 265 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: the start that is both unassailable and unquestionable. And so 266 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: that's why they love the nineteen sixties civil rights positioning 267 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, because it's how dare you? We're 268 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: the ones that are saving the country, and we sit 269 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: around saying, I don't know, pretty sure transgender surgery for 270 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: ten year olds is not actually saving anything, and it's 271 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: pretty horrible. And I don't think MLK would have been like, hey, 272 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: you know what, I really hope that one day we 273 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: can live in America where fourteen year olds chopped their 274 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: boobs off. 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We've been looking forward to 297 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: talking to her ever since the incident at uc San 298 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Francisco last week where she was mobbed by transactivists and 299 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: physically assaulted. We're going to talk to her about legal 300 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: action she I believe is taking and we want to 301 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: get into those those details. So make sure you stay 302 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: with us here for just a few more minutes. Riley 303 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: Gaines will be with us. You remember she was she's 304 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: the best female swimmer in the nation in her event. 305 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: It was a last year in the NCAA. So we'll 306 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: talk to her about what it's like to go speak 307 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: about women's sports for women at colleges in an era 308 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: of transactivist madness. Also, Clay, we've got some very interesting 309 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: International Pet Day submissions already, including to our VIP email 310 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: on clayin buck dot com. We have a bearded dragon 311 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: that somebody in the audience has, but we do have 312 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: an important fact check here. It turns out it is 313 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: a helo monster and not no, you don't have a 314 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: hard g on that one. It's a HeLa monster. But 315 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: I believe they're venomous. 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Clay and Buck Slee, Travis 340 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton on the front lines walking back in 341 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging 342 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: out with us. We are joined now by former University 343 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: of Kentucky women's swimmer Riley Gained. She swam against Leah 344 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: Thomas aka will Thomas, the man from the University of 345 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania who decided to become a woman and compete in 346 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: women's athletics. She was just speaking out at San Francisco 347 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: State University where a mob of Heckler's attacked her and 348 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: physically assaulted her and kept her locked up in a room. 349 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: She is brave, she is fearless, She is fighting for 350 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: women's sports, and she also, I believe is like me 351 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: from the Nashville area. Riley appreciate the time. How are you? 352 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: Of course, I'm doing good and I am from the 353 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: Nashville area, not too far from you. Yeah for sure. 354 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: All right. So for people out there who have not 355 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: seen the viral video and have not experienced what happened 356 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: to you, take us into that speech at San Francisco 357 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: State University. The reaction to it your experience and what 358 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: has happened since. Absolutely so. I was invited to San 359 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: Francisco State to give a speech on protecting women's sports, 360 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: which is what I've been doing this past year, highlighting 361 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: what it takes to get to that top level. Of course, 362 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: what my experience in competing against Leah Thomas looked like, 363 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: not just for myself, but for my teammates, for the 364 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: other girls at that meet, what the locker room piece 365 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: looked like, the silencing and the suppressing of our voices 366 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: that our coaches and our administrators participated in after the fact. 367 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: And I just explained why why putting Title nine at 368 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: risk is harmful to women and why deserves to be protected. 369 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: Many pressures, go ahead, go ahead, Sorry, I go ahead, 370 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: No sorry, I was just gonna say. I gave the speech. 371 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: There are many protesters in the room, and it went 372 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: relatively peaceful until afterwards. That's when a mob stormed in. 373 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: They turned the lights, they flickered the lights, they stormed, 374 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: They rushed me, they pushed me to the podium. There 375 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: was lots of pushing and shoving and hitting, and then 376 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: I a cop came up, which I was supposed to 377 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: meet with the campus police an hour and a half 378 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: before the event, and they never showed up, and so 379 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't even aware there was a cop in the room. 380 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: But she eventually escorted me out of the rooms, which 381 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: in the hallway was just filled with more people, and 382 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: we ultimately got pushed into another classroom in the hallway, 383 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: where we were barricaded for three hours. Riley, So you 384 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: were just so everyone's very clear on this, you were 385 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: physically assaulted. You were a hit someone someone attacked you, 386 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: Is that correct? Correct? And was it a was it 387 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: a transgender individual or just one of the activists or 388 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: you know it basically, were you assaulted by a man? 389 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: To my knowledge, yes, again the lights were flickering, but 390 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: I believe this was a man dressed as a woman. 391 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: So you were attacked, but to your belief, to your knowledge, 392 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: you certainly were attacked. Were attacked by what you believe 393 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: as a man dressed as a woman. I'm very curious, 394 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: and first of all, this this is just horrifying. You know, 395 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: the whole incident, We saw it on video. So I 396 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: think that at least people have some awareness of what 397 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: a shrieking bunch of lunatics the protesters, you know, quote protests, 398 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: it was really a small riot. It was what you faced. 399 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: What were the police saying to you during this, and 400 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: why didn't the police pull out pepper spray? I mean, 401 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: that's that's a standard for a crowd control situation like that. 402 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: I mean, people that are gathering around you, assaulting you, 403 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: these sorts of things. Pepper spray would seem to be 404 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: right within law enforcement escalation of tactics. Absolutely, you would 405 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: think that that would be necessary. But these police, to 406 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: be totally honest, granted they were campus police, but they 407 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: were terrified to do their job, to which they pretty 408 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: openly admitted they didn't want to be accused of being racists. 409 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: A lot of the protesters when they were bar in 410 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: the room, of course, I could hear them behind the 411 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: door screaming, you're just protecting that white girl because she's white. 412 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: These police were put in a position where they didn't 413 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: want to risk their job. They didn't want to be 414 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: seen as anything other than an ally to that community, 415 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 1: and so it did hinder their performance. I missed my 416 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: flight home. I was supposed to fly home that evening, 417 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: but because the police couldn't safely evacuate me from the building, 418 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: I missed my flight. These protesters, they were demanding money 419 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: from me if I wanted to make it home safely, 420 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: and the police did nothing. They were negotiating with the 421 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: Dean of students about my safe passage home, and I 422 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: couldn't believe they were negotiating this, like this is something 423 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: we were genuinely having a discussion about. Wait. Wait when 424 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: you said negotiating, like, what did that? What do you 425 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: mean like take us into that specific what does that 426 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: sound like? From my side of the door, I could 427 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: hear them talking. You know, they were saying, well, Riley 428 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: got paid to be here, so why shouldn't we get 429 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: paid if we want to let her leave. First of all, 430 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: the university did not pay me to be there. That 431 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: is not true at all by any means. Yet they 432 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: felt as if they were entitled to reparations just from 433 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: a conservative speaker being on campus. I mean, you were 434 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: there three hours. They kept you inside of a barricaded 435 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: classroom for three hours, Yes, the whole three hours, yelling violent, obscene, terrible, 436 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: awesome things to both myself and the officers. Um. They 437 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: were screaming, if you didn't want the smoke, you shouldn't 438 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: have come to this university. Trans rise or under attack, 439 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: what do we do we fight back? I mean, it's 440 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: kind of chilling to think about what they would have 441 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: done to me had someone not been able to step in, 442 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: because there was no way I could have safely removed 443 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: myself from the situation. I was totally stormed and surrounded, 444 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: and so it does kind of put you in fear 445 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: for your life in the moment a little bit. Um. 446 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: You have no idea how unhinge these people really can 447 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: be until you see it with your own eyes and 448 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: they're coming at you. I just want to be clear. 449 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: What they found so unacceptable was that you said men 450 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: should compete against men in sports and women should compete 451 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: against women in sports, and basically that biology is real 452 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: and there are two genders. The people on that campus 453 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: found that to be totally unacceptable for you to share 454 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: and maybe for people out there who might not have 455 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: experienced your story. This comes out of your experience in 456 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: swimming against a man, and as you said, so few 457 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: women athletes, including now Megan Rapino and Sue Bird are 458 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: even willing to stand up and say women should compete 459 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: against women and men should compete against men. Yeah, I 460 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: mean a trans man stole the national championship from Riley 461 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: in her event effectively, right, that's what happened at the 462 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: NCAA finals. We're speaking of Riley Gaines for anyone who's 463 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: joining us in progress here about what happened at San 464 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: Francisco State University last week. Riley, So you're not what 465 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: it was? The response? After all this happened, So now 466 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: we know what the incident was like. After all this happens, 467 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: did a university take any disciplinary action against any students? 468 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: Has anyone been expelled? No? The university doubled down by 469 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: saying they were proud of their brave students, literally word 470 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: for word. They said, it can be very hard to 471 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: have someone who so agreed to come to campus and speak, 472 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: and it takes tremendous bravery to stand in this challenging space. 473 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: And we're so proud of the moments where we listened 474 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: and we asked insightful questions, and we're proud of the 475 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: students who demonstrated the value of free speech and the 476 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: value to protest peacefully. We must have a different definition 477 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: of peaceful, because what I experienced was by no means peaceful. 478 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: Why do you think so many women athletes are afraid 479 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: to say what you are saying, and I want to 480 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: go back again, specifically because you tweeted about him earlier. 481 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: Megan Rapino and Sue Bird. Megan Repino is an elite 482 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: women's soccer player, Sue Bird an elite basketball player women's 483 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: basket ball player. They're both saying, oh, we're opposed to 484 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: the idea of preventing trans athletes, that is, men identifying 485 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: as women from competing in their sport. That's almost basically 486 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: endorsing the erasure of women's athletes from women's athletics. What 487 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: are they thinking in your mind? Why are they saying that, 488 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: and why are you out there, in many ways on 489 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: an island making the arguments that you are well to 490 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: be totally frank, people are scared because look at what 491 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: just happened to me for saying something as simple as 492 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: men and women are different. That easy, right, that common sense, 493 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: Yet I was still ambushed. No one wants that to 494 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: happen to them. No one wants to be labeled as transphobic. 495 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: Of course, people would rather like Megan Rapino and last 496 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: Subird and like Billy Jane King, who were trailblazers for 497 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: women's sports. So of course it's ironic, but they want 498 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: to be seen as inclusive and kind and accepting and 499 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: welcoming and loving and all of the things, which, of course, 500 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: who doesn't want to be seen as those things? But 501 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: news flash, it's not inclusive to allow men to take 502 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: a podium spot from a woman. It's exclusive. And it's 503 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: not kind to allow a male equipped with male genitalia 504 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: to change in a locker room with girls. That's not kind, 505 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: that's not inclusive. And like I mentioned, the double standard here. 506 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: These are women who fought relentlessly. Megan Rapino in particular, 507 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: she fought for equal pay and equal access and equal 508 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: resources for women. But now I'm realizing it was a 509 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: sense of faux feminism, because when you're fighting to have 510 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: really for Title nine to be taken down so men 511 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: can compete on women's teams, it's hypocrisy. Riley just want 512 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: to ask you before before we finish up. Are you 513 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: Clay also has a follow up, but do you plan 514 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: on taking legal action against the college, against the university, 515 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: against any of the individuals. I mean, they they very clearly. 516 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm not a lawyer. Clay is very clearly broke the law. 517 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: Though we all know that absolutely. I definitely intend to, 518 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: if nothing else, to send a message because when is 519 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 1: enough enough. We've gotten to the point where there are 520 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 1: no repercussions, there are no consequences for acting out in 521 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: this manner. But I've had enough. It has reached enough 522 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: for me, and so I will be pursuing some sort 523 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: of legal action to hold someone accountable, whether that's the university, 524 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: the campus police, the individuals themselves. There needs to be 525 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: a message sent. Last question for you, and thank you 526 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: for speaking out. You can follow Riley on Twitter. We'll 527 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: be sharing this interview so you guys can find that 528 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: as well. Dylan mulvaney is a man pretending to be 529 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: a woman. Nike gave him a sports bra endorsement deal 530 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: and a women's leggings endorsement deal. I'm just curious, has 531 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: anyone then they said he's for living his life. Has 532 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: anyone at Nike reached out to you and asked you 533 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: if you would like a women's apparel deal? Oh goodness, no, 534 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: And I don't anticipate that, But I don't know if 535 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: they can understand the mockery of what this makes of women, 536 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: especially the video of Dylan I guess portraying what he 537 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: thinks women look like when we work out doing jumping Jackson, 538 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: doing different things. That is so incredibly degrading. And for 539 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: Nike to take this stance, they can forget getting my money. 540 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: And I've talked to a lot of female athletes who 541 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: agree with exactly everything I just said. Riley Gains fighting 542 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: the fight. We appreciate you, we appreciate your bravery. We're 543 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: sorry about what happened to you. A lot of the 544 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: guys in particular, and I'm sure a lot of ladies 545 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: and this audience wish we had been there to be 546 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: able to help you out under the circumstances. But please 547 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: keep speaking out and come back on the show whenever 548 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: you want. Awesome sounds fantastic. 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I think I'm not an 580 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: expert in the swimming world. I think she. I think 581 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: you do a lot of them, but she was one 582 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: of the She's an elite women swimmer for the University 583 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: of Kentucky, and she lost because I think you've got 584 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: to keep telling the story of how she ended up 585 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: as a spokesperson here. She lost to Leah Thomas, a dude, 586 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: and then there was the picture of her on the 587 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: stand standing next to six foot three man, and it 588 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: was like, it's clearly unfair. It's so important because one 589 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: of the ways they really are are dishonest in this 590 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: debate and argument is they play this game of either 591 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen that much, but that's getting harder and 592 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: harder for them as this happens more and more, and 593 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: they push it more and more with sponsors and ad 594 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: campaigns and everything else for the transagenda in sports or 595 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: just in general, but also They say, what's the big deal, 596 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: who's harmed by this? Well, gee, if if I had 597 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: been and you know, I'm far from this, an elite, 598 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: near Olympian level athlete who had been swimming in a 599 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: pool as a as a young girl since age four, 600 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: and this is my crowning moment in achievement to get 601 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: a gold medal in the NCAA Championships and I'm given silver. 602 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: This is what happened to Riley Gaines. She gets the 603 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: silver medal, not the gold medal, because a dude wanted 604 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: to pretend to be a woman for that meet. That 605 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: is what happened. So there are people that pay a 606 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: real cost, and people say, oh, it's really not the 607 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: Let's destroy all merit, all good things, all achievement, all beauty. 608 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: Let's just tear it all down because the left is 609 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: having a tantrum. Leah Thomas won the five hundred Women's 610 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: Championship and then was nominated by the University of Pennsylvania 611 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: for Woman of the Year in the nc double A. 612 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: It's crazy and I just want to emphasize that last 613 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: question I asked of her for all of you out 614 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: there listening. First of all, Buck's right when people say, well, 615 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: why do you care. She didn't choose this battle. This 616 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: battle chose her because she went head to head against 617 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: a male swimmer in an NC double A championship, so 618 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: she actually experienced how unfair this is. And I just 619 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: want to emphasize that last question that I asked her 620 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: because I think it goes straight to the essence of this. 621 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: Look at what Nike is selling to girls out there. 622 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: Nike is trying to sell to girls. Hey, look at 623 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: this dude where wearing a sports bra. Look at this 624 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: dude wearing women's pants. He's so brave. This is who 625 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: we want to put on a pedestal for little girls 626 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: to look up to, an emulate. And they wouldn't even 627 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: consider signing Riley Gains to a contract. Who is more courageous? 628 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: Who would you rather your little girls and granddaughters emulate? 629 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: A fearless women's college swimmer who sees something wrong and 630 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: is willing to speak out on it, not just on 631 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: her own behalf, but on the behalf of all women athletes, 632 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: or a dude who is pretending to be a girl. 633 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: Because Nike is telling you they want your daughters and 634 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: granddaughters looking up to a man with a penis and 635 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: no boobs. Who is trying to sell them women athletic 636 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: year and tell me that that isn't a fundamentally perfect 637 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: metaphor of how broken our society has become. To me, 638 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: Riley gains true courage, true bravery speaking out and recognize 639 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: how few people in women's athletics are willing to speak 640 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: out on her behalf. How few feminists who claim to 641 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: care about women. As you pointed out with that interview Buck, 642 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 1: she got attacked by a man, physically assaulted, they kept 643 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: her locked in a room for three hours. Has Nancy 644 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: Pelosi spoken out, it's her district. Has Kamala Harris spoken out, 645 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,959 Speaker 1: she's the vice president. Has Joe Biden said a word 646 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: about how inappropriate this attack is? Of course, not think 647 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: about why they're being silent, and what message we are 648 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: sending to your kids, to your daughters and granddaughters. Come 649 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: up here in a couple of minutes, we'll talk about 650 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: how the flagship Whole Food store in San fran got 651 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: shut down. When you hear about what was going on there, 652 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: but the mayor of San Francisco, London breed. She wants 653 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: you to know that this is all kind of being 654 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: misrepresented San Francisco. She's doing a great job with the city. Oh, 655 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it.