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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning that

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Speaker 2: be ebby Ebbie Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Happy uh Memorial Day weekend to all, don't forget all

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Speaker 3: those who served honor, pay some respect.

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Speaker 2: We are the Fellas.

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Speaker 3: He's Jason Fits, I'm Anthony Garkan know, and that silence

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Speaker 3: you hear.

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Speaker 2: Is Madison Square Garden where the.

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Speaker 3: Knicks are about to die.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Fits.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, we're starting Saturday morning with a bang. I know,

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Speaker 4: but you're right. I mean, I sat there and watched

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Speaker 4: the end of that game last night thinking like, look,

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Speaker 4: deficit in the series is nothing new for the Knicks,

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Speaker 4: but this one feels different. Man. It's just this. This

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Speaker 4: feels like two Absolutely the way they've gone at each

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Speaker 4: other has been really electric. And I'll give them that,

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Speaker 4: it's been very close. I understand if you're a Knicks fan,

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Speaker 4: you're thinking we could easily be up to nothing, but man,

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Speaker 4: it just feels like, whenever you need the best of

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Speaker 4: the pacers, in the first two games of this series,

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Speaker 4: boy they've gotten them. It's been electric to watch Indiana

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Speaker 4: step up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Man, we talked about it Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: You and I were in for a special Sunday Night

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Speaker 3: the Fellas last weekend, we talked about that series and

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Speaker 3: we were both going, this Indiana is really dangerous because

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Speaker 3: they're deep, right. It was the Pacers' depth versus you know,

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Speaker 3: the start at that great starting five that the Knicks have.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're short, right, and you know, bruntching playing

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Speaker 3: incredible first two games. I mean, here's the thing. No

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Speaker 3: one could could have first seen that miracle in game one, right,

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Speaker 3: and like, once you lose game one, I love about you,

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Speaker 3: But I felt like there was a tension in that

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Speaker 3: whole game. The whole game, there was a tension. It

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Speaker 3: felt like a little tight in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it did.

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Speaker 4: And the alarm makings you saw it on the defensive

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Speaker 4: wrong times and lost guys repeatedly. Like even as I

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Speaker 4: sit here right now and as we're talking the sports

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Speaker 4: and the highlights of the running, it's amazing how many

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Speaker 4: of these highlights have a Knicks defender that is just

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Speaker 4: the wrong spot. Like, it was pretty surprising to me

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Speaker 4: to see some of the meltdowns communication wise late in

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Speaker 4: that game. They all speak to a team that just

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Speaker 4: felt a little tight. Yeah, Indiana has felt through this

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Speaker 4: whole thing. I mean the joy on Halliburton's face when

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Speaker 4: he hit the improbable shot in Game one at the

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Speaker 4: end that I thought was absolutely incredible, and then going

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Speaker 4: into overtime like there's been a lift for Indiana and

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine now going back home. I mean, nothing

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Speaker 4: up to nothing from the garden guy, that's gonna be electric.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: The other thing too, is that building's really great.

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Speaker 2: It's a great atmosphere. Man, they love it.

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Speaker 3: Like I've been the playoff games in that arena as

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you have it. It's it's something man. They're

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Speaker 3: and the sharks circling. There's gonna be blood in the

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Speaker 3: water for Game three. Wow, they're gonna be ready. That's

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Speaker 3: that's gonna be a great, great kind of just atmosphere.

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Speaker 4: And you talk about the dominance historically for teams that

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Speaker 4: are up to nothing, which is huge, Uh, the dominance

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Speaker 4: both of those first two games. It's just, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think at some point we're gonna have to throw

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Speaker 4: our hands up and begrudgingly, like you asked the question

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Speaker 4: Sunday that I think was a fair one, though, you know,

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Speaker 4: to be into Indiana going all the way to the final.

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna be stupid here, obviously. You know, most

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Speaker 4: But at some point you got to throw your hands

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Speaker 4: the first couple of games. It's just it's been pretty

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Speaker 4: to a really good basketball team is up to nothing.

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Speaker 4: The same really good basketball team that had no problem

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Speaker 4: The road ability of the Pacers has been special this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great point, man, You're right. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 3: great story they are. First of all, do you remember

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Speaker 3: down the floor. The tempo was ridiculous. Remember the first

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Speaker 3: And they've learned to kind of morph into that more

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Speaker 3: still move the ball, you know, halla Burton's playing great basketball. Siakam,

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Speaker 3: what you brought this up Sunday night where a lot

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Speaker 2: For him and then secure him, and we talk.

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Speaker 3: About teams that are you know, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: say faceless, because Haliburton and Siakam are terrific players and

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Speaker 3: deliver deserve a lot of accolades, but they're the second

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Speaker 3: tier star, right, Like they're not on the marquee, They're

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Speaker 3: the second tier star.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I wonder as we watch Halliburton, I wonder if some

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Speaker 4: of that changes. But you're right, there is this moment

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Speaker 4: was absolutely mammoth last night, mammoth last night, and big

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Speaker 4: shot after big shot after big shot with somebody in

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Speaker 4: that moment too for somebody that you know has the

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, this is all old hat for him, Like

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Speaker 4: he has been in these situations before, and you can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's a good point. I mean you

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Speaker 3: And he's been there, and I don't know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, just the way the way they just kept coming,

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Speaker 2: Never felt intimidated.

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Speaker 3: Like I've covered a ton of games in that building,

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Speaker 3: and teams can melt in that building. That's one of

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Speaker 3: That place can be that way and then and in

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Speaker 3: the end it never feels that way.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that never feels like.

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Speaker 3: Overwhelmed or it's too big, or they feel intimidated. In fact,

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Speaker 3: they're the opposite. They play with a with a a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a swag.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and a little bit of a with that swag,

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Speaker 4: a little bit of a don't give a damn to

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Speaker 4: been It's been fun to see, as you know, somebody

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Speaker 4: of times I just roll my eyes when they go

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Speaker 4: to Celebt shot after Celebt shot in general at playoff games,

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Speaker 4: but in this particular series, it has felt like this

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Speaker 4: like monumental thing, like the knickser back has become such

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Speaker 4: a monumental storyline. But this is and I say, you know,

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Speaker 4: with as much love in my heart as a Cannicks fans.

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Speaker 4: This is why after the series went against Boston and

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Speaker 4: I kind of cautioned, hey, there's a level to how

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Speaker 4: they don't they don't raise banners for that. Like right now,

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Speaker 4: the feeling in New York, like it's amazing how it's

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Speaker 4: you're a Knicks fan right now, you gotta be losing

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Speaker 4: your mind. I mean you got to be sitting there

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Speaker 4: But it sure hell feels like it feels.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, now you're you're spot along.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's I don't want to say it's

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Speaker 3: cruel because like nobody's gonna feel sorry for celebrity route.

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean that's just what it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean we all feel the same way, which is

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Speaker 3: all right, Like who's postured like out out of those

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Speaker 3: celebrity rows. Uh, you know you got a handful of them.

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Speaker 3: And that are true Nick fans, right that like really

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Speaker 3: love it. Like I'll give Larry David and Spike pass

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Speaker 3: right like they they're legit fans.

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Speaker 2: But you know people are gonna be like stop, who cares?

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Speaker 6: But then no, man, it's actually great. It's just amazing

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Speaker 6: joy to see from the outside the story and in

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Speaker 6: you're then and you're going, oh my god, we slay Boston.

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Speaker 2: I mean you and I both said it.

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Speaker 3: I thought the Celtics were you know, all but a

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Speaker 3: thought that they're gonna at least get back to the finals.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I couldn't have been more wrong last series,

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Speaker 4: Like I thought throughout the course of it that the

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Speaker 4: Celtics were gonna be just fine. This is just one

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Speaker 4: of those moments. And again this is all something I

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Speaker 4: said to be fair and reasonable, hear balanced for everybody.

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Speaker 4: I said this after the win against the Celtics, Like,

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Speaker 4: you have to remember that. Do you believe a miracle's

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Speaker 4: game was not the gold medal game? You still have

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Speaker 4: to win the gold medal for history to remember the

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Speaker 4: big moment? So like that's the the win over Boston

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Speaker 4: is really it's amazing. It's it's awesome. And now I

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Speaker 3: We got to chase stars. Where's Lebron going? The summer

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Speaker 3: Do you where do you sit with the the star thing?

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Speaker 4: So that's It's funny because if you are going to

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Speaker 3: but well, I missing the genius part. Let me go

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Speaker 3: the NFL, we will do that today. We're looking forward

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Speaker 4: and you're like, I'm just looking for this one little adjustment,

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00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 4: Like again, if I wanted to be a beacon of

435
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 4: light in a dark dark world for Knicks Fan's man,

436
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 4: a couple of blown defensive assignments late in that game.

437
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 4: You clean that up. You feel like you're right back

438
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 4: in this series. So I could talk myself back into that.

439
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 4: I have a hard time talking myself into okay, see

440
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 4: losing that series. I just you just Game one felt

441
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 4: every way that we thought it would feel. If that

442
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 4: makes sense, and I just I watched that thought. Man,

443
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 4: this just feels like two teams that if you're in Minnesota,

444
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 4: you're still at the drawing board trying to figure out

445
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 4: how you're gonna surround, Like Anthony Edwards is so stinking good,

446
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 4: and it feels like they're so sticking close. But it

447
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 4: also just feels like they need a guy or two.

448
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 4: They need extra depth is winning this year and they

449
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 4: don't have that.

450
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 2: No, I know, I don't know.

451
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 3: I don't know how you uh, I don't know the

452
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 3: matchup wise, I don't, I don't. I mean I liked,

453
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: I like Nima said, I like the team. I love

454
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: ant Man, and I don't know. I look at him

455
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: and the you know the problem too is like go Bear,

456
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 3: do us even work in that series? Go Bear and

457
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 3: Randall don't work against the athleticism of the OKC frontcourt.

458
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm buying what your selling. I'm buying what your

459
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 4: selling one hundred percent. And that's something I always go

460
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 4: back to Danny Green. You know, when I was talking

461
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 4: to Danny Green last year before during the NCAA tournament,

462
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 4: we were working together, and he mentioned one time that

463
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 4: you know, he was on the Spurs and they'd worked

464
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 4: all week on something they were going to implement in

465
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 4: the playoffs, and they got out there and it just

466
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 4: wasn't working. And you know, Danny was like, we went

467
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 4: to the bench and Papa was like, what are you doing?

468
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 4: Like we spent all this time working like this is

469
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: the plan, and Danny was like we had to look

470
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 4: at him and be like, got it. Yeah, there's just

471
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: better than we are and there's nothing we could do. Like,

472
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 4: there are moments I think sometimes that we have to

473
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 4: remember that, you know, oversimplification of NBA playoffs, But my god,

474
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 4: sometimes it's not that different than playing in the gym,

475
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 4: Like you know that no matter what you do, you're like, damn,

476
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: they're just a little faster, a little better there across

477
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 4: the board, they're a little deeper. They just have every

478
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 4: real advantage there. It's asking Anthony Edwards to be Superman

479
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 4: at this point Superman.

480
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean you're you're right.

481
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: I mean, look, let's face it, the OKC it's clearly

482
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 3: better and that's obvious. But trying to look into the

483
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: matchups to it, you know, I mean the Randall go

484
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: beaar thing. I think that's that's a tough, tough matchup

485
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: and then to your point, and you got Connelly on

486
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 3: the other side of Anton. You know, he's just he's

487
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: just older and and he he can't hold up in

488
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: this series, I think I would play Alexander Walker more

489
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: like I thought that was the right move, and I

490
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 3: would play nas Red more and I would go more,

491
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: I go more athletic and try that route.

492
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 4: Nothing to lose at this point. I mean, I think

493
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 4: you're right, by the way, like at some point you've

494
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 4: got to get just more. I like the way you

495
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: say athletic, you got it just feels they feel a

496
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: little slow, feel a little a little in the mud

497
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 4: against okay see, which, by the way, credit to Okay See.

498
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 4: I think a lot of teams, do you know. I

499
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: just I think we should say again, this is not

500
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 4: this is This is one of my my new resolutions.

501
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 4: You'll appreciate this, knowing me as well as we do

502
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 4: after this many years together. I'm trying desperately when we

503
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 4: look at some of these series to look at the

504
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: positives of certain teams instead of the negatives of the situation,

505
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 4: like this is what we do as a society. We

506
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: come like, ah, this team socks like not you and I,

507
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 4: but like the world comes in this team socks. I'm

508
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 4: trying instead this playoff run to appreciate really really good. So, like,

509
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 4: I do want to stress that this isn't about the

510
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 4: problems with Minnesota. This is about the quality path with

511
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 4: which Oklahoma City was built.

512
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: That's all.

513
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 4: I'm taking a polly positive approach to the playoffs.

514
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I respect that. I do. I respect that.

515
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 3: Listen, I believe you and I share that opinion when

516
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: it comes to you know, look, Thunder is tremendous. I mean, dude, dude,

517
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: just what a team. I mean they they are. I mean,

518
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: and and SGA is I mean, he's terrific. Just talk

519
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 3: about and I love him too because of he's not

520
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: like what do you have? Thirty eight? The other night

521
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: and he had two threes, Like that's it. I love that.

522
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: Mid range going to the line.

523
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if he attacks the rim. Yeah,

524
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 3: I just checked two threes, made one of them. He

525
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: was one for two.

526
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: I love that.

527
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 4: On the way that thirty act that's wild. That is

528
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 4: that is a wide in modern MBA. That is a

529
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: wild number.

530
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: So the other night OKC shoots nine for thirty three,

531
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 3: from three point land that's it nine for thirty three

532
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: and they win by fifteen.

533
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: They went effortlessly. I mean, that's that's crazy. That truly is, like,

534
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 4: especially after what we saw in the first two games

535
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 4: in the Eastern Conference front, like the number of time

536
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 4: that times that Indiana late in the game just had

537
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: to get hot from three to shoot themselves into these games.

538
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 4: You know, it's like able to make a shot from

539
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 4: anywhere is a big part of it, and that is

540
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 4: not a big part of the way that okay see

541
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 4: is just absolutely handing it to Minnesota. So that is

542
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 4: that is kind of a staggering number. I didn't realize

543
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 4: that as I was watching the game. It didn't feel

544
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 4: that way. And you're a thousand percent right, Like it's

545
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 4: funny because I mean, we are headed into this feels

546
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: like a collision course for Indiana and okay See. Not

547
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: just because they're up to nothing, like we've learned that

548
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 4: that's meaningless in the playoffs, but just because the way

549
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 4: that's looked through for the first two games, Like I

550
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: think we are truly going to get this. You know,

551
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: Haliburton versus SGA better get excited for it now, league,

552
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: because that's gonna be the inevitability coming at us.

553
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

554
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 3: He Game one thunder shoots, they shot well, they shot

555
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: eleven for twenty one fifty only twenty one threes. Oh

556
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: my god, it's such a breath of fresh air. Only

557
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: twenty one three. You know you're loving that. You know

558
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: you are loving that.

559
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: Oh it's so great.

560
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, in Game one, and remember, okay, see runs a

561
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: way in the second half, Minnesota.

562
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: Shop fifty one.

563
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe maybe mister analytics is wrong. Maybe you

564
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: could actually play basketball and win and not just JACKO.

565
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: Well, it's the math. It's just the math. You gotta

566
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: play with the math, and.

567
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: Maybe if you just played basketball, you got a change

568
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: to win the game.

569
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: I love it. I'll be honest with you.

570
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: I love it because all those analytic heads, the Maury's

571
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: I O you track GPTs is my assistant GM.

572
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: I can't stare at it. I'm be honest with you,

573
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: I frigging hate it.

574
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: I think it's it is you got to have a like, look,

575
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: you know, I'm somewhere in the middle on analytics and

576
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: the one thing I was like, I'm not, you know,

577
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 4: like tool right, but like I think that what the

578
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 4: one thing that has stood out throughout the course of

579
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 4: this entire playoffs is that at some point you have

580
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 4: to have another plan, Like this was the whole question

581
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 4: that was being asked to the Celtics constantly, is like,

582
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: well what else are they going to do when the

583
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 4: shots aren't following? It's like, well, this is just who

584
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: they are, this is how they're built. Man, I don't

585
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 4: know that you can do that. Like, we'll use the

586
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: football equivalent, like, at some point you have to be

587
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: able to play complimentary football. We what do we say

588
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: all the time in the NFL, Like when it comes

589
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 4: playoff time, you have to be able to run the football,

590
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 4: And even analytics heads will tell you that if you're

591
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 4: not running the ball effectively, there's still value to running

592
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 4: the football because of what it opens up the rest

593
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 4: of the way. So right, like like at some point

594
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 4: you look at the analytics and it's like, gott to

595
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: run the ball. I think that at some point the

596
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: challenge that will come to the growth of the n

597
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 4: b A is the the in the way the game

598
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: is played right now is even if the analytics say

599
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 4: that you can't trade three for twos, that's fine, Like

600
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 4: I understand that at some point the analytics will say, well,

601
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: you got to be able to force a basket when

602
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: you need a basket, Like, I know, the mid range

603
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 4: jumper is dead. I understand that, but you do need

604
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 4: a way to maximize possessions at some point, and that's

605
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 4: what a little loss. Yeah you're right, Yay, Midra Lives.

606
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: I mean you are, you are a thousand percent right,

607
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: You're right. He is the challenger to the entire analytics theory.

608
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: I love it.

609
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: I love it defense actually sharing the basketball, playing the sport.

610
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: I'm not saying there's no place for freese. I'm just

611
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: saying the excessive shooting of the three, which makes the

612
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: game ugly and not interesting, also is telling you that's

613
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: not how you win.

614
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: And I love it, Fitzy.

615
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: Love it.

616
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: Score one for the sports all right, for the actual

617
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: game itself.

618
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 4: That's amazing.

619
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: Fellas up on Fox, Wow wow wow.

620
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: So what do you got on tap for the weekend?

621
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: Big Memorial Day weekend? Fitzy?

622
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 4: Is this a sign of personal growth? Nothing? You know?

623
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 5: Like?

624
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I don't really have anything big on tap,

625
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: Like no big, no big sexy plans.

626
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: What about you?

627
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 4: Like, what's the Gargano family? Like you guys to be

628
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: doing something big for the weekend. Right, It's just like

629
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 4: there's there's a big family gathering at a lot of pasta,

630
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: maybe some a lot of food.

631
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: Come on, my older ones going to Costa Rica on

632
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 3: Sunday and in the Monday, so I have to take

633
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: him to the airport at three o'clock, three am. He's

634
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: got to be there. He's going with school. It's amazing

635
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 3: these trips. Like when I was, he's a freshman in

636
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: high school and like, you know, I think our trip was,

637
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: you know, you went to New York, went to Manhattan

638
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: and you took we took a bus and you went

639
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: to Manhattan and that was like your school trip. And

640
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: you know one year you did Manhattan because I was

641
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia one year, did you did Manhattan one day?

642
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: One year you did d C. And like that was

643
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 3: like the big school trip. Now they got everywhere. You

644
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: should see the trips they do. It's unbelievable. Who's going. Look,

645
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: I'm fraid I'm not a parent.

646
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 4: But like, like obviously not a parent, qualify this loudly,

647
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: but like how how the hell do parents afford that?

648
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: Like I just because we did New York too, and

649
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: like my family couldn't afford like selling candy bars was

650
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 4: like was like I grew up broke, right, So when

651
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 4: we took the bus to New York, that few hundred

652
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: dollars was like that was a lot of stinking money,

653
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 4: Like there was it was either I came up with

654
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: the money or I wasn't going. Like there wasn't really

655
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: an option. We didn't have any cash. And so I

656
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 4: just think about like parents and it's like your kid

657
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 4: coming in and saying, well, I want to go to

658
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 4: France on the school trip. It's like people in hell

659
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 4: on ice water too, kiddo, Like, man, I don't know

660
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: how parents do that stuff.

661
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me tell you something. It's not it's it's

662
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: I got like seventeen jobs. You know what I'm saying.

663
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 4: I can't eat like which I So I'll tell you

664
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 4: was a fun fact that nobody asked for, but I

665
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: was looking at. I was at a vintage toy store

666
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 4: the other day with some buddies and we were talking

667
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: about the old Nintendo Super Nintendo. So like when I

668
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: was a kid, and we've talked a lot about my

669
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: music background, but when I was a kid and I

670
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 4: wanted a Nintendo, like the original Nintendo so bad, right,

671
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 4: So I was salivating over this Nintendo. So I go

672
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 4: to my parents. I'm like, I need, I want this Nintendo.

673
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 4: My Mom's like, well, I'm never gonna have the money

674
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 4: for that. So you want a Nintendo, then you're gonna

675
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 4: find a job. And so here I am like, I

676
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 4: don't know whatever, love of twelve years old, right, practicing

677
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 4: eight hours a day, two and the whole thing. So

678
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: I got a paper route at that time. We were

679
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 4: living in Maine for whatever that was. So like, I

680
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 4: got a paper route in Maine and so delivering papers

681
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 4: in the snow for a kid from Vegas from Maine.

682
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 4: So I spent a year building this paper route from scratch,

683
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 4: and like I would get up at three in the morning,

684
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: I practiced until I heard the papers delivered to my house.

685
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: I delivered the papers, and I come back and practice

686
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: till I went to school. Right, So, like there was

687
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: a whole thing. And my dad's rule was if he

688
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: had to get up and help me with the paper

689
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 4: route in the snow, then he was getting the kind

690
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: of my commissions that week because he was basically like

691
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 4: you got to learn, Like you took this job on

692
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: at your responsibility. So I spent a year saving the

693
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: money from a paper out to get the money for

694
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 4: a Nintendo. Really big deal. I buy the Nintendo right

695
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 4: and this is pre internet, literally, and so like a

696
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: week two weeks after I buy the Nintendo, and like

697
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 4: the three games I saved up to buy with it,

698
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 4: the damn Super Nintendo came out. I had no idea

699
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 4: the Super Nintendo was coming out, and they they didn't

700
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 4: they they didn't make it where the games were playable

701
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 4: on the new system, like it was totally. They basically

702
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 4: were just like back then, they were like sorry, Nintendo's

703
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: no good brother. I did not buy another Nintendo product

704
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 4: until I got a Wei like whatever twenty something years later.

705
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 4: So like I missed Super Mario Car, all of these

706
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: games that are transcendent from most people my age, I

707
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: missed all of them because I was so angry at

708
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 4: Nintendo because it took me forever to save up the

709
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 4: damn money to buy one of these things. And then

710
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 4: the Super Nintendo comes out, so like I only think

711
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 4: about that, Oh my god, yeah, like Nintendo. And I

712
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 4: said to this, like, you know, I hesitated. I love

713
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: Nintendo games and I hesitate to buy them half the

714
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: time because I'm like, you screwed me when I was

715
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 4: a child. That's it's just you don't get through it.

716
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: So I don't know how parents do things like trips.

717
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just never what happened for me as

718
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 4: a kid. Ever, No, dude, even my summer it's my

719
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 4: therapy story.

720
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: No, I know, I feel you.

721
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: First of all, I got a lot of questions, like

722
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: why what happened in Maine?

723
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: You went from Vegas to Maine.

724
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, because when I got into Juilliard and when

725
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: I was little and we knew we were my mom

726
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 4: hated the desert. So she literally came home one day

727
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 4: and was like, I want to move anyway, So we're moving.

728
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 4: So we loaded everything that we had left my parents

729
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 4: sold the house, loaded it in the truck, and we

730
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 4: drove to Niagara Falls and flipped a coint and we

731
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: knew we wanted to be driving distance to Manhattan so

732
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: that I could get in and out of the city

733
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 4: for everything I needed, And so it was between ironically,

734
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 4: it was between like the DC area or Maine. The

735
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: point came up ahead. So we went to Maine for

736
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 4: a couple of years and then ended up moving to DC,

737
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 4: after the outside of DC. After that, so.

738
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: Show you went, you would drop, did they? They drove

739
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: you from Maine to Manhattan?

740
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, my dad and I drove down. My uncle at

741
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 4: the time lived in White Plains, and so my dad

742
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: would drive into White Planes. And my uncle's rule when

743
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 4: I was a kid was that if I'm going to

744
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 4: be your hotel, I won't be your restaurant, so you

745
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 4: can't eat here. So my uncle a kind human being,

746
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 4: I said, sarcastically. So we would drive into White Planes.

747
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: My dad would get the thirty nine cent Hamburgers. He'd

748
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 4: get like twenty thirty nine cent hamburgers from McDonald's and

749
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 4: just shove those in a bag and that would be

750
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 4: my food for the three or four days that I

751
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 4: was training in and out from White Planes to New

752
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: York every day to do that, and then I would

753
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 4: go back up to public school in Maine for the

754
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 4: rest of the week. So I was bouncing back and forth.

755
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: I was everywhere.

756
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 4: My dad was a hero of a driver for that

757
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:50,959
Speaker 4: whole time.

758
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: Oh dude, that's rough man. You read three day old Hamburgers.

759
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, three day cheeseburgers. We got the cheese. We

760
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 4: spared no expense. They were thirty nine cents for the cheeseburgers.

761
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 4: Let's go.

762
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: Oh man, come on, that's not that's not right.

763
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: Oh man. We're the fellas. As we hang out on

764
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 3: this Fox Sports Saturday, you're listening to.

765
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

766
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, very buddy, happy, Happy Memorial Day

767
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 3: weekend here on Fox Sports Radio, very solemn.

768
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Speaker 2: Monday.

769
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Speaker 3: Let's not forget Memorial Day and paying respect for all

770
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: those who served, all those amazing people that served for us,

771
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 3: those who didn't come home, like my man Chuck, Southside

772
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 3: Chuck who lost friends, who's three generations of family served

773
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: and protected us. Jason Fitz Anthony Gargana. We're talking a

774
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: lot about the NBA playoffs. We're gonna switch over to

775
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: some of the NFL stuff going on. College football Fitsie

776
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: fixes the seating issue. We talked about this a lot

777
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: last year, and we kind of knew that they would

778
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: jump on it. And you know what's funny. I saw

779
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: some of the headlines college football tweaking again. Oh changing,

780
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 3: it's planning again.

781
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: They did the right thing. They needed to change that.

782
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: You had a seating issue last year, so do you

783
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: needed to change it?

784
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: I applauded them for doing it.

785
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: No, it was the right decision to make. And the

786
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 4: only thing that is funny is they've fixed a problem

787
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 4: that never should have existed. So I do look at

788
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 4: it and I'm like, what were you thinking in the

789
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: first place, Like the NCAA has a model for this

790
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: already with the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament Women's basketball Tournament.

791
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 4: That kind of tells you how you think you should

792
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 4: have been seated. But at least they got it right now,

793
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 4: and I think that's important, right. I don't want the

794
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 4: college football landscape to get so obsessed with the inevitable

795
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 4: expansion of the playoff that they don't tweak the playoff

796
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 4: that we have right now, and that's an important part

797
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 4: of this to me. So they got it right, and

798
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 4: you know, it's gonna change what we'll see this this

799
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 4: year in the opening weekend of college football for the better.

800
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 4: I think it will. It might it might not bury

801
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 4: some of these matchups the same way, but I do

802
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: think it's going to be you know, I think there

803
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 4: was a sneaky benefit to having an Indiana at Notre

804
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: Dame sort of opening weekend. So we'll see what seeding

805
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: now does. But this was the right thing to do

806
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 4: and the right time to do it, and I'm glad

807
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: college football corrected it.

808
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought it was a I mean, you're right,

809
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: it was obvious it was. It was a myths to start,

810
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: but like you know, I mean, everybody's gonna make you

811
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: make mistakes. But the point is to correct it without

812
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 3: all the red tape and nod sets and what are

813
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: we going to do here? The next question is how

814
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 3: soon until you go to sixteen?

815
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 4: I mean they're gonna get their asap as soon as

816
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: they possibly can come to an agreement. I would think

817
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 4: they're going to be there, and I think it's it's

818
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 4: inevitable at this point. Whether we want it or not,

819
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 4: it's gonna happen. So we just I'm used to it.

820
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 4: This is the funny thing about me as a personality.

821
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 4: I've Anthony, I've dug into so much that this is

822
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 4: going to happen that when it does happen, While a

823
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 4: lot of people have outraged the expansion of college football playoff,

824
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 4: I just won't because I've already accepted that it's gonna happen.

825
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: And yeah, it means we're gonna get some trash blowouts

826
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 4: in the first round. Just like sixteen one games aren't

827
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 4: good in the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament, sixteen one games

828
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: they're not likely to be good in the NAA College

829
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: Football Tournament. But we're still gonna have them, and we're

830
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 4: gonna get them. It's it's I won't have outraged them

831
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: because I'm expecting it to be inevitable in the next

832
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 4: couple of years.

833
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta tell you, I welcome it, like I

834
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: love it. It's like sixteen is a better number. It

835
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: just fits to me. The whole thing fits you. And

836
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 3: I talked about this Sunday night when we were together,

837
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: and I thought I had you a little bit. I

838
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 3: thought I swayed a little bit with the idea of

839
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 3: how the portal has changed things and how.

840
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 2: You're going to have, you know, a lot more.

841
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: I think parody among the top tiered schools, that you're

842
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 3: not gonna have any Cinderellas or what everyone to talk about.

843
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: They won't exist.

844
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: But at the very top of the food chain, I

845
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 3: think you can get sixteen really good teams.

846
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you did talk me into it. I

847
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 4: think I've convinced myself if we're being fair, there's very

848
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 4: little to no hope for most mid tier programs within

849
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 4: the big two conferences. So I've sort of convinced myself

850
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 4: that for the most part, the Wisconsins are going to

851
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 4: just the Michigan states of the world are going to

852
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: just be floundering in the middle of it. And every

853
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 4: once in a while I'll have a year where you're like,

854
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 4: oh my god, they made the playoffs, but I've convinced

855
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: myself that they have less of a chance than ever

856
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 4: of just year in and year out meaningful competition. And

857
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 4: you did sort of talk me out of that because

858
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: when you know what, the the proposal, by the way,

859
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 4: for the sixteen team playoff would be four automatic bids

860
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 4: from the SEC and the Big Ten, And in my mind,

861
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 4: I thought, oh man, the fourth best team in the

862
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 4: Big ten's not really going to be a national championship contender.

863
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 4: And after we talked about it and really walked through it,

864
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 4: now I feel like I'm more saying, ah, the second

865
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 4: best team of the Big twelve in the ACC is

866
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 4: not likely to be a championship contended. But if we're

867
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 4: being fair, there's so much growth gonna happen to all

868
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 4: of these conferences. I think you're right. I think we're

869
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 4: gonna end up with you know, better matchups than I

870
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: give credit for. I just think most years the top

871
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 4: four team teams are going to be better than thirteen fourteen,

872
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 4: fifteen sixteen. But I do think you're right. There's more

873
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 4: parody that will make one through ten and better matchups

874
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: for sure, or even like three through twelve are going

875
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 4: to be better matchups too.

876
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you're going to have all those kids

877
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 3: and basically you're going to be stealing from the Max

878
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: and the Americans and those conferences, and then the lower

879
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: rung of the Big twelve in acc like any of

880
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 3: those lower rung schools are going to lose all their

881
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: best players, and you know, they're basically going to be

882
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 3: a minor league type of system for the top echelon

883
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 3: to come in and swoop down.

884
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 2: And because of nil and salary cap.

885
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: And you're you know and all the talent, I think

886
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 3: it'll get dispersed somewhat evenly, like you're still gonna have

887
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: your you know, Like I'll ask you this, I'll put

888
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: it this way. If you're a backup at Alabama and

889
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: you are a you know, four star recruit and the

890
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: whole thing back up at Alabama and you're there just

891
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: to wait, you know, to wait your turn, and you're

892
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 3: gonna get your turn.

893
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: It's like a d lineman at Georgia, right.

894
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 3: Like you know, you're gonna there's a there's a lot

895
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: of you, and you're gonna wait your turn.

896
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: Well, no longer now do you have to wait to

897
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: come and play.

898
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: And you're gonna go to one of the top schools

899
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: and play right away, right after you make a name

900
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: for yourself in one of those other conferences.

901
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 4: So so let me ask you a philosophical question. Then

902
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 4: if you are, I'm gonna pick a couple of schools here, uh,

903
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 4: you and LV Memphis, you know, group of five schools

904
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 4: that last year were right on the fringe of winning

905
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: the automatic bid for the highest seated group of five.

906
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: Would you rather if you were let's say UNLV, who

907
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 4: turned down the Pac twelve in their expansion. If you're UNLV,

908
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 4: would you rather be the best of the Mountain West

909
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 4: and just take your shot that you can be the

910
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 4: best mid major group of five every year? Or would

911
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: you rather fight to get into the Big twelve eventually

912
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 4: because they get two automatic bids in the college football playoffs,

913
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 4: and it feels like we're gonna end up with really

914
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: these four, these four conferences, the ACC, Big twelve, SEC,

915
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 4: and Big ten kind of taking over.

916
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would shoot for to be in the Big twelve.

917
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: But to your point, you know, there is another road, right.

918
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: The other road is what's going to happen. And it's funny.

919
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: Kevin and I were talking about this, are buddy Kevin

920
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: Nigandi from ESPN, who does a great job covered in

921
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: college football, and we were talking about what's going to happen,

922
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: and so there's gonna be it's just a matter of

923
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 3: time before it's a you know, Big ten, SEC, AFC,

924
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: NFC model, right, and there's basically just two conferences split

925
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: up into divisions, and.

926
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 4: Which I support, by the way. I would love that,

927
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 4: by the way, go ahead.

928
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: And then you know, you figure that's going to be

929
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, forty to fifty teams, and then there

930
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: are forty to sixty teams, and then everybody else is

931
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: going to be in a secondary league. Now do you

932
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: want to be a second in the secondary league that

933
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: has a chance to win the secondary title?

934
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: It's going to go there's no way it can't go

935
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: to the.

936
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: European soccer where you have relegation in the Premier League

937
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: and then the second whatever. What's the second league in England?

938
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: I just know that they do relegation. I don't know

939
00:48:59,080 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 4: what the second.

940
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: League called, right, but you'll have that right.

941
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: So you'll have, you know, you'll have you'll probably have

942
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: relegation because there's a great push for it. It's a

943
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: very interesting push and you can't have it in professional sports,

944
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: but you could have it in college.

945
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 4: The funny thing is the way you said win the

946
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: secondary title, and that's that's almost it feels almost like

947
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 4: the n I T. You know, like at some point

948
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: programs just don't think it's worth it. What will they

949
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 4: want to play it? Will they not want to play it?

950
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 4: It gets really interesting when this goes to two mega

951
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 4: conferences because then you're you're really going to have to

952
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 4: decide are you in or out on college athletics, because

953
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 4: if you're out completely on big time football, you know,

954
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 4: maybe maybe basketball becomes such a different siphon that like

955
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 4: you can be okay with it, but it is really

956
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 4: it's interesting because as things stand right now, if we

957
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 4: don't go to two power conferences that rule the world.

958
00:49:55,239 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: I would make the argument that from a program standpoint,

959
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 4: what I want is the exposure of constantly being in

960
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 4: the playoff. What I don't want is the exposure of

961
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 4: constantly getting my ass kicked in a mega conference. So,

962
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 4: like I think, if you're really talking about the overall

963
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 4: optics of your school and the front porch of your

964
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 4: school is they like to say college athletics, athletics are

965
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 4: all the time. I'd rather be a team like UNLV

966
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 4: than a team like Vanderbilt for example, that's just going

967
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: to be in the SEC to get just ramroded by

968
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 4: all the real good teams and just sit there and

969
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 4: you know, take their punishment and say please, they're going

970
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: to have another and never really put a competitive products

971
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 4: on the field. So I think it's probably more beneficial

972
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 4: to be, Hey, over here, we might be more of

973
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 4: a development. We might be the launching pad program, but

974
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 4: we're going to constantly launch towards the college football Playoff,

975
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 4: which gets you the most eyeballs to be seen.

976
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: You know.

977
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 4: I think that's maybe your sales pitch on it. There

978
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 4: are going to be a lot of teams in the

979
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 4: bottom half of the Big Ten in the SEC if

980
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 4: it really goes to two mega conferences that are gonna

981
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 4: have to look in the mirror and figure out if

982
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 4: they even want to be competitive. And the answer from Vanderbilt,

983
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 4: for example, has always been, well, no, Realistically, the SEC

984
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 4: is happy with Vanderbilt being in there because it helps

985
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 4: their graduation rate numbers, but also it's an easy win

986
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 4: for SEC teams, and Vandy likes the paycheck of being

987
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 4: in the SEC. But none of those teams, that team's

988
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 4: not actually consistently good. So if you're doing something like relegation,

989
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 4: what happens to the bottom half of these power conferences

990
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 4: that aren't really putting in any effort into being great programs.

991
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 4: They just happen to be grandfathered into something that makes

992
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 4: them a bunch of money.

993
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: Right, and then the beauty of relegation is it'll help

994
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 3: them hold them accountable.

995
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, how are you really like, you know, it's just

996
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 4: an interesting like yeah. Like, so let's say Vandy, you know,

997
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 4: the college football landscape that we know is so different

998
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 4: from conference to conference. If Vandy wins one game, Sorry Vanderbilt,

999
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 4: I'm picking on you, But if Northwestern wins one game

1000
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 4: in the Big Ten and then You've got Memphis over

1001
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 4: here that just absolutely destroys the AAC. The level of

1002
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 4: competition between those two schools is so different, especially if

1003
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 4: we've separated into two mega conferences. How do they pick

1004
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 4: which teams are being brought up? It almost be like

1005
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 4: a is it committee deciding because the the wins loss

1006
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 4: is alone.

1007
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: I guess if you're in what and you're a the

1008
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 3: final four of If you're in the final four of

1009
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 3: that secondary league, you then move up and the lower tier,

1010
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 3: the low four go in conference.

1011
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 4: I mean, could you imagine like if you're Northwestern and

1012
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 4: it's a schedule year where you drew Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon,

1013
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 4: you drew all of these in one year in your

1014
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: Northwestern and you win one football game and then all

1015
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: of a sudden, that means you get relegated out of

1016
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 4: the Big and for a team that you know, UNLV

1017
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 4: team that just won eleven games, but they did it

1018
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 4: against the Mountain West, which at this point is you know,

1019
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: in this new system we're talking about, God only knows

1020
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 4: how much money they're actually investing in any of these programs.

1021
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 4: So now this this one one loss, or this this

1022
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 4: one win, Big ten or SEC school gets kicked out

1023
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 4: for a team that they played, you know, nobody coming

1024
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 4: in Like, I think people will be more up in

1025
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 4: arms about that than we think coming into it. I

1026
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: love the idea. I just I wonder somebody somewhere is

1027
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 4: going to have to have the foresight to be able

1028
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 4: to look at strength to schedule and the difference in

1029
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 4: who you're playing to figure out.

1030
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: Remember one thing, right, you know, you if you go

1031
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 3: to this model where you have an AFC and NFC, right.

1032
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: Huge divisions.

1033
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 3: There's two conferences and then the conferences meet for the championship,

1034
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 3: like it's an AFC and NFC, you're your Big ten

1035
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 3: is now tripled or quadrupled, right.

1036
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 4: So yeah, you're you're absorbing the Big twelve and the

1037
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: ACC into these mega conferences. It's not just a Big

1038
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 4: ten and the I'm.

1039
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 3: Explaining it like it's the AFC the NFC. So it

1040
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: just like the AFC the NFC, only larger, right, because

1041
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 3: you have more teams.

1042
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 4: So you're taking like the top forty forty teams or something, Yeah.

1043
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: And maybe fifty maybe maybe the top sixty comprise the

1044
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 3: tier one of college football.

1045
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 2: I mean, go through it.

1046
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 4: So if you're doing the top six, like I guess.

1047
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: My question is are you relegating within? Like, so, is

1048
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 4: it one of those things where it's basically the SEC

1049
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 4: and the Big ten it's sixty teams and you're relegating

1050
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 4: within your own conferences where it's like, all right, the

1051
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 4: bottom from in a different league.

1052
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, two from the you know, the two worst teams,

1053
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 3: and let's call the AFC the Big ten, in the

1054
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 3: NFC the SEC. All right, so you have two teams

1055
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 3: in the SEC and two teams from the Big ten,

1056
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: those bottom two teams get relegated and the final four

1057
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 3: of the secondary league move up.

1058
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 4: That's I mean, it's just it's man, because now you.

1059
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 3: Just do one Like I guess, I'm not the you know,

1060
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 3: I don't know all the ins and outs, but the

1061
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 3: relegation thing, I think it's only one team.

1062
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 4: I think it would make more sense. Look, if you

1063
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 4: were relegating, if you basically had a split line within

1064
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 4: the SEC and the Big ten where it's like, all right,

1065
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 4: you're you're now in SEC light and you're now in

1066
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 4: Big ten light because you finished poorly, and we're moving

1067
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 4: those schools from Big ten light into Big ten automatic,

1068
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? So like, I'm taking your

1069
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 4: sixty teams that are in these two.

1070
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 3: Mega Big ten Light is playing in this secondary league.

1071
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 4: Big ten Light is still playing Big ten teams. They

1072
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 4: just can't. I don't know, because like, in this situation,

1073
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 4: the best of the rest will have won a bunch

1074
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 4: of games against the bottom twenty programs together. Like, so

1075
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 4: how do you judge in this situation? Like, how do

1076
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 4: you relegate? How do you justify relegating a Big ten team?

1077
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 4: For let's say we're using the Big.

1078
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: Ten as a as a holder. It's really not the

1079
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 3: Big Ten. It's a conference with thirty teams in it.

1080
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but those thirty teams, like the teams that

1081
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 4: are left out of these top sixty teams in this scenario,

1082
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 4: so like you're talking about the bottom the bottom sixty

1083
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 4: teams of college football will have played such trash opponents

1084
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 4: because all of the good teams and all of the

1085
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 4: money are all going to be going into these these

1086
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 4: two conferences. That's all. I'm like, I'm still struggling to

1087
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 4: figure out how whatever the imaginary conference be, is the

1088
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 4: worst team in imaginary conference is still going to have

1089
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 4: played a much stuffer schedule, then Yukon will have of

1090
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 4: the you know, beating up on the teams that don't.

1091
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I mean I'm sure that. I'm

1092
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 3: sure in that Premier League they have the same issue, right.

1093
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 4: They must, And I don't know, I'm thrown again.

1094
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: We're just kind of talking it out and talking through it,

1095
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 3: which is kind of fun. I love this stuff. So

1096
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: we're just talking through it. And I'm sure there's plenty

1097
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 3: of holes. We didn't come in and go all right,

1098
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: here's the plan. At some point, I will because it's fun.

1099
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: But you know, I mean, they may not do any

1100
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 3: regular relegation, but I I've heard that, I've heard it

1101
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: thrown out a bunch of times that I think that

1102
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: they'll probably do something. I think they'll probably institute at

1103
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: some point. I mean, I just think the landscape is

1104
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: going to change so dramatically that you know, I mean,

1105
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 3: it feels little you see it right like you see

1106
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 3: it now, So why why wouldn't it whittle down? And

1107
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 3: then you were to have a lot of these other

1108
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 3: schools to your point that are just going to focus

1109
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: on basketball because basketball is cheap er than football, right,

1110
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 3: Roster size is the obvious, but then everything else, all

1111
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: the facilities and training staff, supplemental staff.

1112
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: That you need for a football program.

1113
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: You know, basketball is cheap, so you can compete in basketball.

1114
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: I think you'll have schools that will be baseball only schools,

1115
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: maybe even hockey only schools, or you know, you have

1116
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 3: your ancillary sports, but they focus on hockey where they

1117
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,479
Speaker 3: put all their money. At some point, athletic departments may

1118
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: just look to put and invest in whatever avenue. They think, Well,

1119
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 3: if you're Boston University, your bu why wouldn't you just

1120
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 3: go all in on hockey and not and not worry

1121
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: about you know, basketball, football or anybody anything else.

1122
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 4: You're a thousand percent right report all of that.

1123
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 2: I just think it could be it will provide some order.

1124
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: There's no order. It's chaos now.

1125
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: So if you're UNLV squad can't pay its quarterback and

1126
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 3: had all the issues because they couldn't suddenly didn't have

1127
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 3: the money like they promised them the money and then

1128
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 3: the money didn't come through, well, at some point, you know,

1129
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: the university has to make that, make good on that,

1130
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 3: or just get out of the football business. And you're

1131
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 3: gonna see a lot of that. I think you'll see

1132
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 3: a lot of universities dump football.

1133
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna see universities dump football and basketball. Well,

1134
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,439
Speaker 4: there's a lot to talk about on this, for sure.

1135
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I think they're gonna dump both over

1136
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 4: over time. Yeah.

1137
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's an interesting, you know proposition.

1138
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: The whole thing where the Fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano

1139
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 3: push push lives, the brotherly shove lives. Oh, FITSI I

1140
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 3: celebrated the other day. I want to get your thoughts

1141
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 3: on it. Next Fellas on five.

1142
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1143
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,840
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1144
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:09,080
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1145
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,120
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1146
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 3: Fellas from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Hanging out with

1147
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:24,479
Speaker 3: you on Memorial Day, weekend, Saturday, all the playoffs happen

1148
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 3: and everything NFL. We're gonna do our wind totals coming

1149
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 3: up next hour. It's really excuse ever over. I know,

1150
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 3: it's excuse really just to dive into all the teams

1151
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:37,959
Speaker 3: and everything else.

1152
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: And I'm sure we'll do it.

1153
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: It's May, so the end of May, we'll probably do it,

1154
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 3: you know, once again in June at some point, definitely

1155
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 3: in July, and most certainly in August, So we'll revisit

1156
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 3: these wind totals several times just to kind of go

1157
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,959
Speaker 3: through it and talk what we love to talk, which

1158
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 3: is football, my man. So, speaking of which, the owners

1159
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 3: meet in Minneapolis this week.

1160
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: We all thought it was the end of the Tush

1161
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: push play. But it wasn't. Even though everybody thought.

1162
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 3: Chefty right, all of the Amena coins, all the NFL insiders,

1163
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 3: and I get it, like this whole thing was done

1164
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: so that the NFL could could kill it, right, Like,

1165
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 3: all right, we're at a tablet until May, and they'll

1166
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 3: get enough votes except Jeffrey lore In, the owner of

1167
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 3: the Eagles, and Jason Kelsey who flies in as a

1168
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 3: special testimony in passion plea, and they're able to get

1169
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 3: ten owners to vote for the Tush push and they

1170
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: pass it. They're able to keep the toushbush legal by

1171
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 3: two votes.

1172
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 4: Absolutely huge. It was the right thing to do. I

1173
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 4: keep saying that banning the Tousch push when only one

1174
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 4: team is properly executing it, to me, would have been stupid.

1175
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 4: The fact that we just saw in the playoffs the

1176
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 4: bills inability to execute a Toush push was part of

1177
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 4: the reason that they didn't advance, right, So I mean,

1178
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 4: at some point, taking away what one team is doing

1179
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 4: really well simply because you don't like the way it

1180
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 4: looks is a wildly slippery slope. Now, my question to

1181
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 4: the world is what happens if a team decides that

1182
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 4: they just want to come in and not even have

1183
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 4: wide receivers. They just want to have everybody lined up

1184
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 4: close to the line of scrimmage and just grind the

1185
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 4: ball four yards at a time down the field, suck

1186
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 4: up the whole clock and try and win games three

1187
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 4: to nothing. That should be a team's prerogative, even if

1188
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 4: it's not pretty football. Now, at some point, to me,

1189
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 4: if you take this away simply because Philly can't be stopped,

1190
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 4: that's like going to Randy Moss at his heyday and saying, hey,

1191
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 4: here are the four routes that we figured out nobody

1192
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 4: can actually cover you on. So as a result, you

1193
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 4: can no longer run those routes. Like the war doesn't

1194
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 4: work that way. So I thought it was gross, and

1195
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 4: I understand, and I've heard everybody tell me that, you

1196
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 4: know a lot of this comes from Roger Goodell not

1197
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 4: not loving the way the play looks, and doesn't think

1198
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 4: it's it's aesthetically pleasing football or the way the game

1199
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 4: should be played, all of these things. I don't give

1200
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 4: a damn about any of that. This is that moment

1201
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 4: where to me, teams shouldn't be spending their time trying

1202
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 4: to outlaw the play. Teams should be spending their time

1203
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 4: trying to figure ot how to emulate the play, but

1204
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 4: figure out who on your and how the team can

1205
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 4: do it. And then once you figure out how you

1206
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 4: can execute it, maybe you can also figure out how

1207
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 4: to stop it. Like I just I feel like this

1208
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 4: is you can't just sit there, throw your hands up

1209
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 4: and beg for something to be outlawed simply because you

1210
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 4: can't figure out how to make it a play that

1211
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 4: isn't as effective. So wildly, I'm incredibly happy that this

1212
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 4: is not actually happening.

1213
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny too, is that you know it's

1214
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 3: a play that we have talked way too much about

1215
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 3: right for the frequency of which it happened, facts and

1216
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 3: which it's deployed. But it's really a product of goes

1217
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 3: back to al roach LEI, back to football. So it's

1218
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 3: some stupid play that's used, you know, a small percentage

1219
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 3: of the time, but everybody talks about it because it

1220
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 3: it affects our game, man, Like it's may and there's

1221
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 3: more toush push talk than Nicks Pacers.

1222
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 4: Which is a reminder that my god, absolutely football is

1223
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 4: king and everything. And I just don't I don't understand

1224
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 4: why this got so contentious. I don't understand why we

1225
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 4: spend so many hours talking about it. I understand why

1226
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 4: it's frustrating. I feel it like it's like playing Madden.

1227
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 4: If you're any good at Madden and you know that

1228
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 4: you can always quarterback sneak for the last half yard,

1229
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 4: like it feels like that's just unfair. Blah blah blah

1230
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 4: blah blah. Okay, the entire league is doing it and

1231
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 4: the conversion rate is out of control, then now you

1232
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 4: have something you can base it on and say, hey,

1233
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 4: like extra points, we're gonna change it. Or if there's

1234
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 4: actually injury information And I cannot scream this loud enough,

1235
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 4: my friend, the entire NFL can kiss my ass when

1236
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 4: they sit here and tell me that anything's about player

1237
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 4: health and safety, because you are also in a league

1238
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 4: that is openly admitting they're going to add an eighteenth game.

1239
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 4: You know, what's better for health and safety than taking

1240
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 4: out one play that's run a few times a game

1241
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 4: at most by one team. How about a whole extra

1242
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 4: game of football. So like the concept that the league

1243
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 4: is gonna come here and be like, well, you know,

1244
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 4: we're really concerned about health and safety. You're not so

1245
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 4: concerned about health and safety that you're not considering adding

1246
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 4: an entire extra game where players won't have health and safety.

1247
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 4: I just I want to vomit every time I hear

1248
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 4: health and safety thrown down my throat as some sort

1249
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 4: of reason for anything. Because the players, if they really

1250
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 4: cared about it, they could, they could address it in

1251
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 4: the collective bargaining agreement, but they don't. They always take

1252
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 4: the money because that's really what it's all about. And

1253
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 4: if the league actually cared about it, then they could

1254
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 4: address it, and they don't because they also want the

1255
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 4: extra money. So at some point, just be honest with us.

1256
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 4: Tell us you don't care about your own health and safety.

1257
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 4: Tell us you don't care about your players health and safety.

1258
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 4: Tell us you only care about the money. But if

1259
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 4: you're gonna do that, I just want you to do

1260
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 4: that while you look me in the eyes. I don't

1261
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 4: want you then to turn around and tell me that

1262
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 4: health and safety should matter on the toush push when

1263
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter when it's adding an extra game.

1264
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 2: Stupid. Well put, man, I'm gonna tell you.

1265
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 4: I'll get off my self box now. I get up

1266
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 4: myself box now.

1267
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 3: No, I well put, dude, you're a spot on because

1268
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, we've talked so much about it,

1269
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 3: and you know how about they need to get rid

1270
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 3: of it and everything else.

1271
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 2: It's the banting of their existence.

1272
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, come on, like, you can't hypocrisy,

1273
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 3: you can go down that road. So I'd rather than

1274
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 3: just say I hate the play. It's ugly, right like,

1275
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 3: I rather goodell, just go yeah, this place bogus. It

1276
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 3: doesn't look full like football, doesn't feel like football. I

1277
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 3: want it out, like whatever, that's all you gotta do.

1278
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 4: Do you know how much I think our society would

1279
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 4: absolutely thrive and gravitate towards that from any sports commissioner

1280
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 4: instead of just sitting here and throwing us all a

1281
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 4: line of junk. If you came out and you're like, hey, guys,

1282
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 4: we've looked at the play and it just it looks ugly.

1283
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 4: It like if Roger Goodell came out, I'll go back

1284
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 4: to the eighteenth game. If Roger Goodell came out and said,

1285
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 4: you know what, we don't feel good about an eighteenth game,

1286
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 4: but we know you guys are gonna watch it, and

1287
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 4: we can make so much money doing it. Frankly, we're

1288
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 4: just going to do it. You know how electric that

1289
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 4: would be the net Like no talk show anywhere, no

1290
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 4: debates show, no information show would be able to sit

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01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 4: there and argue about any of it because you'd be

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01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 4: looking at it and saying, oh, well, at least he

1293
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 4: was honest. I mean, they're doing it for the money,

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01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 4: so okay. Like if players came out and said, oh,

1295
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 4: we hate this collective bargaining agreement and we understand that

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01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 4: this could be doing incredible damage to our bodies, but

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Speaker 4: you know there's two thousand union members and we want

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Speaker 4: the money, Like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you want believe it. Right, It's not

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01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:26,959
Speaker 2: the first business.

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Speaker 3: That's a harrowing business, right, Like you you watched the.

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01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,480
Speaker 2: Do you watch the fishing shows?

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01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 4: Like the Oh yeah, I've seen so yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right, Like you know, I mean those guys make a

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01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 3: lot of money. It's also extremely dangerous, right, like you know,

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01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 3: you at the first one to put your life on

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Speaker 3: a life for danger.

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Speaker 4: I think that level of honesty, you know, if if

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Speaker 4: they just came out and just spelled it for us,

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Speaker 4: like in a way that any idiot can't debate it,

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01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 4: You're I respect it. I genuinely believe that the NFL

1312
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 4: handled the toasch push that way. Like if teams even

1313
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 4: came out and said, you know what, I just don't

1314
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 4: like the fact that we can't stop it. It doesn't

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01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 4: look good and we can't stop it. So you know,

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01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 4: if you can't stop it, at least try and make

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Speaker 4: it illegal. I think if they had just come out

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01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 4: with that level of blunt honesty, we'd all be saying, well,

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01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 4: you know, I understand where they're coming from from that,

1320
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 4: Like you may not appreciate it, but you can't argue

1321
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 4: it if you understand it. That's just blunt honesty the

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01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 4: only way that everybody shuts up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you're so right.

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Speaker 3: I've been wondering that forever, like why don't they just

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Speaker 3: give you a supreme honesty like just before for it,

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01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 3: Like what are you trying to when, especially when you

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Speaker 3: have situations where everybody knows the truth and the real deal.

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01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 3: Why would you just come out and go and just

1329
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 3: be whatever the issue is. Yeah, well, I mean we

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 3: had to do it, like X, Y and Z.

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Speaker 2: I the guy you know, forget. I'm trying to figure

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Speaker 2: the situation.

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Speaker 4: I mean, my friend, I was sitting at a dinner

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01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 4: with one of my buddies not too long ago, and

1335
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 4: he was complaining about everything in his job with a

1336
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 4: bunch of us that know him well and have all

1337
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 4: worked around him, and he was just complaining the whole

1338
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 4: time about how much he hates everything about his job.

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01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 4: And I looked at him and I was like, dude,

1340
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 4: you've had so much success in your life and you

1341
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 4: could go out and start your own thing. You could

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01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 4: do anything you want to. If you hate your job

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01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 4: so much, why don't you just quit? And he just

1344
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 4: looked at the whole table and he's like, huh, I

1345
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 4: got a wife, I got kids, and I make too

1346
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 4: much money. It's golden handcuffs. I can't replace the income

1347
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 4: I make and it makes life manageable doing it that way.

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01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 4: And the funny thing is, I think the entire table

1349
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 4: walked away from that with a different understanding of who

1350
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 4: he is. Like there's a level of yeah, no, now

1351
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 4: I get it.

1352
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 2: I get it.

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01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 4: Like, you know, you're kind of a pain in the ass,

1354
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 4: but she explained why you're a pain of the ass.

1355
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 4: And now we're all like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you

1356
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 4: need the money. Like that's real. I think we as

1357
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 4: a society respect anybody that comes. I was like, you

1358
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 4: know what, I hate my job, but I get paid

1359
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 4: so much damn money. I'm gonna do it and be

1360
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 4: miserable while I do it. Now, I'll accept you being

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01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 4: miserable now because at least I understand.

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01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Like we all have a choice. And you know,

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01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 3: if you go down a route we were talking about

1364
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 3: earlier about the family figure, how expensive it is.

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01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta do what you gotta do.

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01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 3: Where the fellas, Uh, let's uh, there's a million things.

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01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 2: You got this flag football thing that's interesting. You got

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01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 2: some insight on that college flag.

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01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 4: Football, knowledge on flag football.

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Speaker 3: All right, I want to hear it. Let's talk about it, Fellas.

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Speaker 3: Jason Fitz Anthony Gargana right here. Fox Sports Radio. Fellas, Hey,

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01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,080
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01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,800
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1379
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Speaker 3: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. I educate me on

1380
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 3: this flag football situation and the Olympics.

1381
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,759
Speaker 4: So I had my mind blown this week. Yahoo Sports

1382
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 4: I host Inside Coverage, their podcast with a bunch of

1383
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 4: our insiders, and we were doing our production call on

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01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 4: Monday to get ready for Tuesdays taping, and somebody mentioned

1385
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 4: flag football, and Charles Robinson said, well, you know, it's

1386
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 4: pretty clear what all of this is about, and all

1387
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 4: of us on the call were like, no, no, no,

1388
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 4: please please extrapolate like I wasn't aware. And so we

1389
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 4: ended up getting a deep dive masterclass in flag football

1390
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 4: that I would encourage anyone to go check out the

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01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 4: show because frankly, it opened my eyes. Brother, it blew

1392
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 4: my mind a little bit. Like we sit here and say, Okay,

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01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 4: NFL players are playing in the Olympics, that's cool for

1394
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 4: flag football whatever, But what this really comes down to

1395
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 4: is the league owners have been for years watching the

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01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 4: international particularly like the Chinese success of the NBA, and

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01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 4: one of the things that places like China have is

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01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 4: an advantage for the NBA is all you need is

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01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 4: a ball and a hoop. And so the NFL has

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01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 4: been looking for years with the process of trying to

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01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 4: grow globally for monetary purposes. They want international money, right,

1402
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 4: so trying to figure out how to grow globally. The

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01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 4: concept for years has been how do we grow this

1404
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 4: sport in a global way? And the easiest way to

1405
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 4: do that is become part of something that only requires

1406
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 4: a ball and a field. So the advantage here is

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01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 4: we want the entire world to fall in love with

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01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 4: playing football in a way that will then benefit the NFL.

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01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 4: So what's interesting is that teams, GMS, coaches, they don't

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01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 4: love any part of this because there's a fear of

1411
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 4: what if a player gets injured all of the things

1412
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 4: that we've talked about as fans. Owners literally look at

1413
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 4: players in this situation as some level of collateral damage.

1414
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 4: If there's a process that God forbid results in a

1415
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 4: player getting injured, most of the owners don't care if

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01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 4: it means that they can get the global growth that

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01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 4: they need. So what's interesting year is players And then

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01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 4: you look at the player's side of it and you say, okay,

1419
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 4: how many players want to play? Well, you know, talking

1420
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 4: to some people that were involved and had been around

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01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 4: the players union, they'll tell you that part of what

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01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 4: players love about this is fifty three players get a

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01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 4: get a ring every year for the Super Bowl. Only

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01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 4: about a dozen players are going to get a gold

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01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 4: medal every four years, which is substantial. But also they

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01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 4: looked at the marketing for people like Kobe when they

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01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 4: went over to China with Nike, and they saw what

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01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 4: it did to their global brand. The fact is, if

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01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 4: you're Ashtan genty, most of your success here has come

1430
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 4: with the Boise State helmet on it and will come

1431
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 4: with the Raiders helmet on it in the NFL. But

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01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 4: if you're playing flag football, well, now, when we start

1433
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 4: to get to the NFL being involved in the Olympics,

1434
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 4: when Nike trots all of their Nike the athletes over

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01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 4: to China and Egypt and you know, everywhere the rest

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01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 4: of the world, and you start seeing these players without

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01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 4: helmets on because that's how they play flag football. It

1438
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 4: changes their monetized capability for players as well. So players

1439
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 4: are looking at it saying, man, this is my chance

1440
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 4: to get my brand as an individual bigger. Nike looks

1441
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 4: at it and says, this is a chance to make

1442
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 4: our brands bigger, and the NFL says more important than

1443
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 4: the eventual eighteen international games that we're going to have anyway,

1444
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 4: this is a way for us to get NFL players

1445
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 4: paraded around the world in a way to get people

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01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 4: playing football. Brother like, this was the first step. I genuinely,

1447
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 4: after hearing all the conversations and getting some of this knowledge,

1448
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 4: I would be stunned if the NFL isn't part of

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01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 4: trying to grow an actual flag football NFL back to

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01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 4: league like this. This is this is the beginning of

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01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 4: the NFL in.

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01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 2: Women of it.

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01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 3: Now you open it up to women like you know, well,

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01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 3: I's saw a huge growth in my area with high

1455
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: school flag football and women and girls high school flag football.

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01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: Huge. Girls love it.

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01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 4: It's the fastest rising youth sport in America right now.

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01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. And also twelve states have already

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01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 4: started the process of bringing varsity teams to their high

1460
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 4: schools for flag football for men's and women. So now

1461
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 4: think about what we were talking about earlier with college

1462
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 4: football and all of these regulations and NIL and Title nine. Well,

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01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 4: these are more athletic scholarships that can be offered to

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01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 4: women in women's sports as well. Like, I man, I

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01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 4: wonder if we're a few years away from having a

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01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,799
Speaker 4: flag football team for Clemson, a flag football team for Georgia,

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01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 4: Like these are easy in NFL fans, I.

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01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 2: Don't care in the spring, right, like, so you have

1469
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 2: to play that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And NFL fans are like, wow, I know it's

1471
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 4: not going to look like the football I want. This

1472
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 4: is going to suck. I think what NFL fans have

1473
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 4: to understand is that we're not really the audience. Like

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01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 4: the audience for this are people that haven't necessarily gotten

1475
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 4: into the NFL. So how do you get a seven

1476
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 4: on seven, open, scoring, flashy plays, fast people everywhere like

1477
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 4: this is? This is a dream come true for the NFL.

1478
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 4: They're trying to get people that don't even like football

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01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 4: into flag football, hoping that then they get into tackle football.

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01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 4: But also to your point, spring, like, could you not

1481
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 4: see in a decade where the Las Vegas Raiders play

1482
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 4: the Denver Broncos in flag football in the spring and

1483
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 4: Allegiance Stadium, like I certainly could. To me, this is

1484
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 4: the beginning, not the end.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think you're I think you're spot on. I do.

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01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 3: I think you're right on with it, from the global

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01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 3: nature of it without helmets to now you have no

1488
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 3: safety issues. Right, there's no head and concussion issues. The

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01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 3: only thing is, oh fits heat. I could I just

1490
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 3: be honest for a second. I don't don't really like it.

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01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 4: I respect it. I don't like us to break down.

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01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 3: Come on, I mean, listen. I think it's great for kids,

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01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 3: all right, I do. I think it's great for I

1494
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 3: think its existence is holy positive. It's a good thing.

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01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 3: There's an aesthetically we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Fellas, you don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's us. Welcome back, fellas, Jason Fitz Anthony

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Speaker 3: Gargano on this Memorial Day weekend, Saturday, as we approach

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Speaker 3: the gateway to summer, Memorial Day weekend always the gateway

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Speaker 3: to summer. Summer twenty twenty five looms, So hopefully everybody's

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01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 3: going to have a nice relaxing weekend. Joy yourselves. Are

1502
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 3: you a are you a cookout man.

1503
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 4: I'm not very good, Like can can I be the

1504
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 4: one honest manner in America that just admits that, Like

1505
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 4: I'm not great with a grill. I'm a really good cook,

1506
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 4: I'm just not great with a grill. Like I don't know.

1507
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 4: Part of it's a lack of lack of you know,

1508
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 4: over and over and over again trying it. But like

1509
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 4: I have a grill, but I feel like I use

1510
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 4: it like four times a year, and then when I do,

1511
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,600
Speaker 4: like because I don't use it as often, it just

1512
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 4: isn't as consistent a cook for me. So like I

1513
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 4: don't grill out often. So I don't know, Like you know,

1514
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 4: some of these I like going to them, but also

1515
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm sort of a snob. I think

1516
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 4: I can admit that, like potato salad and like you

1517
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 4: know that sort of stuff like it in especially like

1518
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 4: living in the South all those years, it gets really

1519
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 4: like hot and gross quick. I'm torn on this, Anthony,

1520
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 4: Like you can, like the city kid in me right

1521
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 4: now is really coming out because like none of this

1522
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 4: is manly at all. But yeah, I'd rather be an

1523
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 4: air conditioning than out of the grill. Usually I can say.

1524
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 3: That, Wow, you know, it's crazy. We may be the

1525
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 3: only two men alive because I'm just like you. I'll mean, like, honestly,

1526
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 3: it's terrible. I feel if there's one thing I feel

1527
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 3: like a failure in life, it's the you know, suburban

1528
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 3: dad thing. I feel like I failed it. Like I'm

1529
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 3: good with everything, like I'm good. I feel parts of

1530
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:35,440
Speaker 3: it like I'm I'm I excel in the sports dad, Baseball, football,

1531
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 3: basketball dad, right, like because that rules my life.

1532
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 2: So I'm good at that. But man, I don't even

1533
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 2: own a grill.

1534
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 3: And my wife like like, yeah, my wife's like I

1535
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 3: don't understand you. And you know, we're the only people

1536
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 3: don't have a grill and blah blah blah. And I

1537
01:20:55,640 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 3: usually hear it like three times a summer and it's like, well,

1538
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 3: you gotta just just got to do it, Like, how

1539
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 3: come we don't have a grill. I'm thinking of myself.

1540
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 3: I know, I'll like, I like you, I could cook,

1541
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 3: like I do a big Christmas eve thing. I cook

1542
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 3: probably twice a week, but I don't know what it is.

1543
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 3: I'm intimidated by the grill.

1544
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 4: There's something too, you know, we're all sort of creatures

1545
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 4: of environment everything. But like, I think there are certain

1546
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 4: things growing up as a little kid in Vegas. I

1547
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 4: just maybe it's different now, But when I grew up

1548
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 4: in Vegas, it's one hundred and ten degrees in the

1549
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,919
Speaker 4: middle of summer. So the whole concept of standing outside

1550
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:42,839
Speaker 4: and in front of fire hot grill by the way, yeah,

1551
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 4: zero interest in doing that. And then you know I've

1552
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 4: gotten older, and then just out of my own in life,

1553
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 4: it just was the skill I never really felt the

1554
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 4: need to pick up. It's funny because I've been looking

1555
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 4: at griddles lately. I like the idea of a griddle

1556
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 4: more than I like the idea of a grill. But

1557
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 4: then there's still the walking outside to cook. And it's

1558
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 4: just like, man, I can I can do all that

1559
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 4: on a stove and I feel pretty pretty confident and

1560
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,759
Speaker 4: I know I can whip up anything that is really,

1561
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 4: really good. So why do I need to add the

1562
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 4: element of going outside and turning on, you know, the

1563
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 4: outside cooking device, and then you know, dealing with the

1564
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 4: bugs and humidity, and it's just it's the grossness. Yeah,

1565
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,959
Speaker 4: Like I'm I'm a Whenever I go to a restaurant

1566
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 4: and they're like, oh, would you like to sit outside?

1567
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,799
Speaker 4: My answers like, hell, no, I don't want to sit outside.

1568
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 4: Like I like my temperature to be controlled, you know,

1569
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 4: I like to be in a cold house like I like, yeah, no,

1570
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm out on most of these elements. And

1571
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 4: I realized that that makes me the least manly man ever.

1572
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 4: But at least I can admit it, you know, like,

1573
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:43,440
Speaker 4: well I can admit these flaws.

1574
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah I do, Like I like the al fresco eating,

1575
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 3: but not I don't know. I also failed the backyard,

1576
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 3: Like I look at it. My wife's like it's gross,

1577
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 3: and it's it's expansive, like we live.

1578
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:02,879
Speaker 2: In South Jersey.

1579
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 3: I you know, part of it is I was happy

1580
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 3: in a row house, right like I so having a

1581
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 3: like a house in the suburbs is it's a lot

1582
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 3: of upkeep. And you know, I'm not good at that

1583
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 3: stuff like that. There's guys that are great at it,

1584
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 3: Like they can build everything, fire pits and landscape and

1585
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 3: they can do it all.

1586
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: And I just have no skill and it frustrates me.

1587
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 3: And every time I tried it a couple times and

1588
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 3: I fail miserably, like I stink at it.

1589
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 4: The about the only thing in the world I'm allergic to,

1590
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 4: and I'm really allergic to it is the chemical that's

1591
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 4: released when grass gets cut. So I literally can't like

1592
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 4: if I try to cut my own grass, my skin

1593
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 4: will welt up and I won't be able to breathe.

1594
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 4: I have to wear the mask and do the whole thing.

1595
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 4: So I literally have to pay somebody to cut my grass.

1596
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 4: And you know how cheap I am. Like, so I'm

1597
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 4: like the thought of like I hate the fact that

1598
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 4: I have to spend money on somebody to cut my grass,

1599
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 4: but like my grass needs at this point to be

1600
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 4: like seated and like I need I need turf builder

1601
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 4: and all of these things, and people keep telling me that.

1602
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to prioritize that. That's

1603
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 4: just not as long as as long as the dogs

1604
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 4: can run on the grass, and there's no problem, which

1605
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 4: they can. They're divots now out there, and like everyone's like, oh,

1606
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 4: I got to get that fixed. I'm like, well, why

1607
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 4: am I gonna? Am I hosting a flag football tournament

1608
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 4: in my backyard? Like I'm not that worried about it,

1609
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 4: Like I could never go outside in the backyard, like

1610
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 4: I am not the person that, like Animeel, likes to

1611
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 4: run after the ball over and over and over again.

1612
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 4: So I do that, and like I go out for

1613
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 4: walks with the dogs every day, like I do all

1614
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 4: of these things around the neighborhood. But I am never

1615
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:44,879
Speaker 4: going to be a person like I have an outdoor

1616
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 4: the like patio set sort of thing that I think

1617
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 4: in five years i've sat on once. I'm like, there's

1618
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 4: a waste of money. Like I just I'm never the

1619
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 4: guy that's like, oh, so let's go sit outside, like

1620
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 4: get covered by pollen while I eat. That doesn't sound

1621
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 4: like fun.

1622
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 3: God, work, Ah, that's great, that's great. Listen, I want

1623
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 3: to turf my field.

1624
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,799
Speaker 2: My my, oh, that's such a good idea.

1625
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 3: Well, I want to do it for because I mean,

1626
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 3: I'm putting together a quarterback, uh like workout thing in

1627
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 3: my back so I could be Marv Marinovich for my

1628
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 3: twelve year old. Did it throw today?

1629
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: He'll know?

1630
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 3: But we're all from baseball this weekend, and uh we

1631
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 3: got a big throwing session tomorrow morning.

1632
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: Let's go football season, baby.

1633
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I'd be all in for turfing, Like when

1634
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 4: I was looking at Vegas again and thinking, oh, should

1635
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 4: I moved to Vegas. Like one of the things that

1636
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,799
Speaker 4: that is kind of interesting is like it's almost impossible

1637
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 4: out there to actually plant grass because of the water shortage.

1638
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 4: So when I was talking to people that have dogs

1639
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 4: out there, what do you do, It's like, well, they

1640
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 4: get they get dog turf and they play that in

1641
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 4: the backyard. And I'm like, I don't I don't hate

1642
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 4: the idea of turf. I mean, I don't know exactly

1643
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 4: how that handles like waste from the dog put, you know,

1644
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 4: and I imagine like it gets stinky. I don't know,

1645
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 4: but I do know that like the concept of never

1646
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 4: having to cut my grass, Like, yeah, if it wasn't

1647
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 4: for the fact that I like to sit down and

1648
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 4: play a musical instrument at two in the morning, if

1649
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 4: I feel like it, I'm totally the type of person

1650
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 4: that'd be like, yep, shared wall, don't care, no lawn,

1651
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 4: all in for it. Give me the least amount of

1652
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 4: maintenance possible. Like I think, as I get older, I'm

1653
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,879
Speaker 4: learning that I would be totally okay being an apartment

1654
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 4: guy if it wasn't for my love of dogs and music.

1655
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I can see that. Yeah, I used to

1656
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 3: joke all the time about I can live in a hotel.

1657
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 2: There see these like these dudes, Yeah, you know they

1658
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 2: live in a hotel.

1659
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 3: You know they're there, or they're you know, Central Park

1660
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 3: right live. They have their big spot in the city.

1661
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 3: Like I always thought, big flat. I always thought that

1662
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 3: was attractive, but you know not when you have kids.

1663
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. I always like, there was always a part

1664
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 4: of me that wanted like downtown loft, living in a

1665
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 4: rustic building where the inside's modern but the outside is

1666
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 4: all brick. I always thought like maybe phenomenal, it's just

1667
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 4: for me. It's mostly about like you, what do you do?

1668
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 4: Like where am I throwing the ball with Annabel? Now

1669
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 4: I'd have to be like on a rooftop situation, and

1670
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 4: that's just then having her run around the rooftop and

1671
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 4: that's like a different level of money like that that takes.

1672
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 4: Now you're talking about I want the whole top floor

1673
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 4: of a building the park, Yeah, And I just like, yeah,

1674
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 4: there's a part of me too even with that, Like

1675
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 4: this sounds so weird, But when I was talking to

1676
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 4: Vegas friends and I was like, what do you do

1677
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 4: with your Like how do you play with your dog

1678
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 4: during the day, and it's like, you don't you take

1679
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 4: them to an indoor dog park with the reservation or

1680
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 4: you play with them at night. And I'm like, God,

1681
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 4: I can't imagine that for Annabelle, Like I just like

1682
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 4: because she's such an active dog, and it's so easy

1683
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 4: for me right now to be like, oh, yeah, you

1684
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 4: want to go outside. We'll go outside and throw it

1685
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 4: for half an hour and then you'll just like collapse inside.

1686
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 4: Like so it's a weird thought for me to be like,

1687
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 4: load up in the car and we'll go down the

1688
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 4: street to the dog park. Like I don't know. I

1689
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 4: also weirdly, as an animal lover, I don't trust other

1690
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 4: people with their dogs as much as I trust me

1691
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 4: with my dog. So, like I dog parks aren't my

1692
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 4: favorite anyway. It's it's weird how much my decisions on

1693
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 4: what to do in life are dictated by, you know,

1694
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 4: the fact that I will always have dogs.

1695
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 3: That's awesome, man, can they're the greatest. We got my

1696
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 3: I got my my man's right over here, go Goots.

1697
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 2: He's a big sheep dog.

1698
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 4: That's I love the fact that even even your dog

1699
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 4: has a better nickname. Like that's just like gogoots Like

1700
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,600
Speaker 4: that just feels so good. Like gogots.

1701
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 3: Well he looks like he's got a huge head and

1702
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 3: he's a monster, and he's, uh, you know, he's just

1703
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 3: scared of his own shadow. He's huge, right, Like he's

1704
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 3: a monster. It's my man, he's the greatest. So well

1705
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 3: you know that, my little one. They'll tack wrestle with

1706
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 3: them in all. He's the best. So we love him.

1707
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 2: He's you know, he's bes he's the goots. Where's the

1708
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 2: goots at?

1709
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 3: And the goots will come running to get his big head,

1710
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 3: and you know he's cool. They're the greatest gift ever.

1711
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 3: These dogs, they're you know, I mean, we're a dog family.

1712
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 3: So we've we've had you know, we always have them

1713
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 3: and they're just the best. They're part of family. They're

1714
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 3: just beautiful, beautiful creatures. Man, they're God's gifts. They really are.

1715
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 3: All right, So we got our Memorial Day conversation out there.

1716
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 3: We learned that you and I are two losers.

1717
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 4: So let's I mean, I'm gonna stay off Twitter after

1718
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 4: this for a minute because I just wes.

1719
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 3: The it's part of it, man, no problem, Uh, I

1720
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 3: gotta I gotta get one thing with test and then

1721
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 3: why would to start a win total conversation? Uh, the

1722
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 3: flag football thing, it's it's great, Like I like, I

1723
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 3: feel guilty not liking it. But here's what I don't

1724
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 3: like about it. And I got both my kids played it.

1725
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 3: They like my little one still plays. But like you

1726
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 3: go to this, you go to the facility and there's

1727
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 3: there's you know, fifteen games, twenty games going on at

1728
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 3: the same time, and they're like whatever, it is thirty

1729
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 3: minutes long, forty minutes long, and they're quick. The games

1730
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 3: are are really really quick, and it's a lot of like.

1731
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I get there.

1732
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 3: These guys taking really serious with plays and this and that,

1733
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 3: and I don't know.

1734
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 2: It feels like a microwave.

1735
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 3: Football. It feels like microwave football. And like I tell

1736
01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 3: my little one, who's might both of them play? One

1737
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 3: plays in high school and the other one plays uh

1738
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:07,600
Speaker 3: and waited game, waited ball. And I'm like, yo, like

1739
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 3: you when you play football, you are you're at practice Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

1740
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 3: you have walk through on Friday, you play on Sunday,

1741
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 3: like like you devote a lot of time and you're

1742
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 3: out all summer long, banging and working and doing every

1743
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 3: like that is a ton of time and work that

1744
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 3: you're putting in, whereas flag.

1745
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 2: Football, you know, you would show up to the.

1746
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 3: Half hour before they have a little practice and then

1747
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:45,520
Speaker 3: they go play a game. And I and I stressed,

1748
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 3: especially to my little one because he plays quarterback, so

1749
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 3: he's like, you know, he like enjoys the flag football

1750
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 3: thing and the seven on seven stuff. But I'm like, dude,

1751
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 3: you play real you play real football, and that is

1752
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 3: a that's that's that's a lot of work that you're

1753
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 3: putting in. That's not a shortcut, that's not a cliff note,

1754
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 3: that's not microwave stuff. That's real sweat equity that you're

1755
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 3: putting in. And there should be a like that should

1756
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 3: be lauded, that hard work that kids are putting in

1757
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 3: and not just going oh yeah, why some plays flag

1758
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 3: Like flag, I'd be great.

1759
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 2: I'm glad everybody should play.

1760
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 4: Flag but football.

1761
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 3: But playing tackle football is a commitment and that should

1762
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 3: be rewarded.

1763
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 4: Do you think over time that there's any chance that

1764
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 4: the flag football will get more complicated more like if

1765
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 4: it was a true flag because I've never been around

1766
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,719
Speaker 4: anyone that played in any of the flag football leagues

1767
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 4: that have existed. I know some people that play in

1768
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 4: you know, it's a pretty competitive rec leagues. That's about it, right,

1769
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 4: So my I guess my wonder is, like, if we

1770
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 4: reached today where it was Alabama, Georgia flag football, is

1771
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 4: there going to be a level of practice and coaching

1772
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 4: required for that at that level that then picks up

1773
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 4: the slack or do you believe that flag football is

1774
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 4: always at its core it just sort of the sort

1775
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 4: of thing that's a little easier to play, So it

1776
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 4: doesn't require any of that.

1777
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 3: Well, I mean by meat. Inherently it's got to be easier, right,

1778
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 3: you don't have a line, yeah, I mean you're not

1779
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 3: rodding the ball, like, hey, they could, they could do

1780
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 3: little you know, quick running hitter run play hitters, but

1781
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:39,639
Speaker 3: it's not. It's it's not eleven eleven people on each

1782
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 3: side of the ball, right Like, So inherently it's going

1783
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 3: to be what it is and there's nothing wrong with it.

1784
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 3: And I get it from every level. I get it

1785
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 3: from parents that say, you know, I don't want my

1786
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 3: kids exposed to the physical nature of it, exposed to injury,

1787
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 3: but they can still play and in the game. I

1788
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 3: think it's great, right. I love the fact that girls

1789
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 3: can play it. I love the fact that your point,

1790
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 3: it's an easier game to sell internationally, like American football,

1791
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 3: because it's so complicated it's really hard to export, especially

1792
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 3: when you're talking about you know, the like American football

1793
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 3: compared to soccer, right, Like, it's a complicated game. So

1794
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 3: flag takes the complications out of it and takes the

1795
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 3: helmets off. So you're right, like, you see guys and

1796
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,879
Speaker 3: you see personality, and you know, one of the advantages

1797
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 3: of soccer and why, you know, besides the fact that

1798
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 3: such a monster sport internationally, but the players you see

1799
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 3: them right, like their characters, right, they're not.

1800
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 2: Wearing a helmet, they're not wearing a hat.

1801
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 3: Right, it's the only o a sport in basketball is

1802
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,679
Speaker 3: basketball where you see the player.

1803
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think with all of that, I'm just left

1804
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 4: to wonder if the future of that sport evolves into

1805
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 4: some sort of weird I don't know, because you're right,

1806
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 4: like it's different than basketball, you know, when you talk

1807
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 4: about just the practice and the plays that would be implemented,

1808
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't know, because certainly it lives separate.

1809
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 4: I just wonder will people fall in love enough with

1810
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 4: the openness of the game and the dynamic play of

1811
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:36,919
Speaker 4: the game that scores, you know, and then the branding

1812
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 4: of the like I mean, my god, everybody's been trying

1813
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 4: to make a spring football league work forever and it

1814
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 4: never does right the the this has got to be

1815
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 4: frustrating for the UFL, which is, you know, dying on

1816
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 4: the vine in front of our eyes rating wise compared

1817
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 4: to what I think they hoped it would do. So

1818
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 4: the UFL is not exactly getting any traction. I just

1819
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 4: am left to wonder, if, you know, does it change

1820
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 4: if this becomes such an initiative that now you do

1821
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 4: have a Georgia versus Alabama flag football team, why do

1822
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 4: you watch you end up with a you know, Eagles

1823
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 4: Giants flag football teams.

1824
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I go back and forth like what

1825
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 2: do you what are you really watching? Like?

1826
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:25,799
Speaker 3: And I guess you're telling me it becomes basketball on turf,

1827
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 3: really basketball turf because it's five on five or six

1828
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 3: on six, I should say. And it's you know, great

1829
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 3: plays and bombs and interceptions and that sort of thing,

1830
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 3: and leaping catches, and it's athletic and you know, but

1831
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 3: will that ever take the place of real football the

1832
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 3: only way and like you're saying, it's a game of itself,

1833
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 3: like by itself or unto itself.

1834
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's it's replacing anything. I think

1835
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 4: that they're gonna use it as a way to get people,

1836
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 4: you know. I think the hope for the league, well,

1837
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 4: I know the hope for the league is that if

1838
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 4: you see Rock Bauers in the Olympics and you're over,

1839
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 4: you know, in China, and you're like, oh my god,

1840
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 4: this is so cool, that maybe you become a Raiders

1841
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 4: fan from that, much like the NBA has seen with

1842
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 4: its growth. I think that's what they're they're looking for,

1843
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 4: is to bring people over to the other section of it.

1844
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 4: I just wonder, you know, too, if you treat it

1845
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 4: like a different sport but you put the same energy

1846
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 4: and branding behind it. I just wonder if the Olympic

1847
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 4: thing is going to at that moment you're going to

1848
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 4: see these you know, diving, amazing catches and the inability

1849
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 4: for anybody to grab somebody's flag. Like I'm just thinking

1850
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 4: about what it will look like to see I don't

1851
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 4: know Jamiir Gibbs out there running around playing flag football

1852
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 4: and watching anybody try and be able to grab him.

1853
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 4: How exciting that becomes at some point to see, you know,

1854
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 4: justin Jefferson, you know, absolutely diving for some touchdown in

1855
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,679
Speaker 4: the Olympics. Well, that be enough of a launching pad,

1856
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 4: not just for the rest of the world to get

1857
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 4: into the NFL, but for NFL fans to be like, no,

1858
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 4: I like this, I want to watch more flag football,

1859
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,759
Speaker 4: and that becomes a greatness for the league to start

1860
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 4: putting together their own flag football teams.

1861
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great quest.

1862
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 4: Not with like, I think that the future is almost

1863
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:21,600
Speaker 4: in my mind. I think we're I can see in

1864
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 4: a situation where like in ten years, it's like, oh,

1865
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 4: here are the Raiders, here's the Raiders football team, here's

1866
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 4: the Raiders flag football team. They play at different times,

1867
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 4: and you're you're supporting a different group of people, all

1868
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:33,520
Speaker 4: with the same logos.

1869
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 3: I guess, you know, maybe it could be a you know,

1870
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 3: I could definitely see a flukewarm.

1871
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 4: I got a lukewarm from him.

1872
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't really like it, you know,

1873
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I mean I don't really find you,

1874
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 3: but it's not for.

1875
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 2: Me, right, you know. A I'm I'm you know, older

1876
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 2: be I love the sports.

1877
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 3: I love the way football is, so I'm resistant to

1878
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 3: changing to change that way.

1879
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 2: So that's not what the reactor is.

1880
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 3: All the kids and all the young women, like I

1881
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 3: could definitely see a flag football women's league under the Raiders,

1882
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 3: Like I could totally see that, and that they played

1883
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 3: in the spring, and maybe there is a men's team too.

1884
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I don't know, Like, would you

1885
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 2: watch it?

1886
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 4: I'll ask you, Yeah, I would. I mean, curiosity kill

1887
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 4: the cat. I'll watch it at first, but then there's

1888
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 4: got to be something that keeps bringing me into it.

1889
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there's so much out there.

1890
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 3: I just I don't know. You probably would probably beat

1891
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 3: baseball as much to my much to my chagrin. We're

1892
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:49,560
Speaker 3: the fellas. Let's take quick to you. Well, it's a

1893
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:54,599
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1910
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 3: Good stuff on Twitter too. The higher Glitzy says, hear

1911
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 3: you guys talk about flag football and now for nothing,

1912
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 3: there's a league in Rhode Island that it's there. It's

1913
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 3: basically three versus three on the line tight end, two

1914
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 3: receivers are running back on the quarterback. It's the most

1915
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 3: physical flag league I've ever been a part of. It's

1916
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 3: basically tackle but with flags. And I'm sure that you

1917
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 3: know that sort of thing gives you a good flavor

1918
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:19,719
Speaker 3: of the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's as someone else

1920
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Speaker 4: pointed out to me, and I stole it. But they

1921
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Speaker 4: wear mouthguards in a lot of these leagues for a reason.

1922
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Speaker 4: There's still some contact in it. I also think, you know,

1923
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Speaker 4: I keep coming back to, you know, I'm not sure

1924
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Speaker 4: flag football is for NFL purists, because look, I mean,

1925
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Speaker 4: there's a whole generation of us. We can't sit here

1926
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Speaker 4: and deny that used to watch the Madden introt just

1927
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:45,880
Speaker 4: to see the big hits, right Like we used to

1928
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 4: watch Madden to see who got absolutely taken down in

1929
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,639
Speaker 4: those intros. I mean they used to do on NFL primetime.

1930
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Speaker 4: They used to do the the you know, the week's

1931
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 4: biggest hits. They try and avoid all of these things now,

1932
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Speaker 4: But certainly a lot of people fell in love with

1933
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 4: the sport because of the physicality of the sport, right,

1934
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 4: So it's hard to combine both of those things at

1935
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Speaker 4: this point. It's it's hard to understand the physicality of

1936
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 4: the sport being part of the draw to it, and

1937
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 4: then also sit there and love what flag football is.

1938
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Speaker 4: I just think it's a different at some point. It's

1939
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 4: just such a different game, you know, It's just it's

1940
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 4: just being real. It's just a couple it's just such

1941
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 4: a different game.

1942
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a it's it's a great discussion with

1943
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Speaker 3: the Olympic thing coming up.

1944
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Speaker 2: It really is, uh and they're just looking on X.

1945
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Speaker 3: My man, Larry Irving says, be honest, is Anthony the

1946
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 3: dad who thinks if his kids aren't involved and good

1947
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Speaker 3: at sports, then he's a failure. That's just a vibe

1948
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 3: I get and I and I really want to stress

1949
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 3: this because it's not whether or not they're good, like

1950
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 3: that's irrelevant. They like it is important to be able

1951
01:42:56,479 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 3: to go out and compete. I believe in sports as

1952
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 3: a dad for all kids, for boys and girls, I

1953
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 3: think they should be involved in sports. If I had

1954
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,680
Speaker 3: two girls, that'd be the same way. I think they

1955
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 3: need to be involved in sports. I think it's good

1956
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 3: for them. All the life lessons are obvious. I think

1957
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:22,759
Speaker 3: keeping them on a schedule is important. Schedules are huge,

1958
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 3: right like you had it in music with Juilliard, Right

1959
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 3: like you had a schedule. It made you not just

1960
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 3: your gift, but your dedication to work, like you were

1961
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 3: a worker at a young age, and it made you

1962
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 3: a success in life. Having a schedule. I think the

1963
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 3: sports schedule and competing is vital in the development of

1964
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Speaker 3: a kid.

1965
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 2: I think they need to have schedules. I think they

1966
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:54,600
Speaker 2: need to be and I think they need to be

1967
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 2: tired at night.

1968
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Speaker 3: So it's not about do I think they need to

1969
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:02,640
Speaker 3: be good good, But yeah, I think they need to

1970
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 3: participate and listen if they were. And the other aspect is,

1971
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 3: I don't know anything else, all right, So it's not

1972
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 3: like I'm a failure or I think I'll be a

1973
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:15,799
Speaker 3: failure if they didn't compete in sports.

1974
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 2: I don't know anything else. Truthfully, I'm not.

1975
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Speaker 3: I wasn't blessed like FITZI you were with, you know

1976
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:27,280
Speaker 3: in music, all right. I have two boys, and yeah,

1977
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 3: I pushed them towards sports. Now, I didn't make it

1978
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 3: a mandate, but I wanted them to do whatever they liked,

1979
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 3: and it just so happens that, you know, they wound

1980
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 3: up playing Now the big one places football. He also

1981
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 3: rose like when we leave, when we're off the air,

1982
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 3: he's at a rowing event, race. I'm gonna leave here

1983
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 3: and go do that. I don't know anything about rowing.

1984
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,640
Speaker 3: I think it's a great sport. I wasn't exposed to

1985
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 3: that growing up. But the fact that he's rowing and

1986
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 3: they have a race today. I think it's great. He's

1987
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 3: in the kids in great shape. So yeah, I think

1988
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 3: it's I think it's paramount. And it's the other thing

1989
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 3: is I don't know anything else, right, Like that's our

1990
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 3: family business. I've had a career in sports and I'm

1991
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:14,600
Speaker 3: a believer in it, and so I make it my

1992
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 3: choice as a dad that to be involved. I think

1993
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 3: there's a lot of good. It's communal, the community things real,

1994
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:25,640
Speaker 3: being part of a team is real, you know. I

1995
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 3: think there's so many great aspects with it.

1996
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I also would say to that Tweeter, I mean,

1997
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 4: certainly if you maybe the first time you've ever listened

1998
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 4: to this show together. But you know, I again, I'll

1999
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 4: remind loudly, I grew up a fat kid that played

2000
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 4: the violin, like so there was you know, everything I

2001
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 4: have now in sports media was earned from a ten

2002
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 4: thousand hour principle of studying work. But certainly I was

2003
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 4: not an athletic kid, and you've never held that against me, right.

2004
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 4: I think that it's interesting when someone says, well, you know,

2005
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 4: you would judge your It sounds like the tone of

2006
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 4: that is like your kids suck if they're not good

2007
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 4: at sports. I mean to Tantony's credit, like he if

2008
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 4: that was the way you felt down to your wiring,

2009
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 4: we wouldn't be working together. So, you know, I think

2010
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 4: there's a there's a limit, like it'd be hard for

2011
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 4: you to host with somebody that has my background, if

2012
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 4: that's what he felt. I think there is an element

2013
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 4: for all of us of whatever sport you're comfortable with.

2014
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 4: And I see this a lot with my friends that

2015
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 4: played the highly competitive soccer, you know, like their kids

2016
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 4: are playing highly competitive soccer at a very young age.

2017
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 4: Like we gravitate my parents while having absolutely no musical

2018
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 4: skill whatsoever. My parents weren't into sports. They didn't like sports.

2019
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 4: They were both music and they love to listen, to

2020
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 4: appreciate and watch, go to concerts and be around music.

2021
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 4: Like my parents love music, so they they the transition

2022
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,680
Speaker 4: of getting me into music was pretty easy because I

2023
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:47,719
Speaker 4: showed an interest in it as a kid, but also

2024
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 4: they at the at their core, they loved it, so

2025
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 4: it became an easy thing to support. So I think

2026
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 4: that the concept that you know, obviously your kids, you're

2027
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 4: going to gravitate your kids towards music because like, why

2028
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 4: we're towards sports, because why wouldn't you like that That's

2029
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 4: a huge part of your background, a huge part of

2030
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 4: who you are. And then it's up to them to

2031
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 4: commit to it. And you know, that's the one thing

2032
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 4: that we share, no matter what you're talking about as

2033
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 4: your background, Like, it's about the commitment to something, working

2034
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 4: your ass off and trying to be the absolute best

2035
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 4: that you can be at it every day. That is

2036
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 4: a part of the process that makes you know, engaging

2037
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 4: in any of it fun. So you know, I just

2038
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 4: have to I mean, I roll my eyes at somebody

2039
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,719
Speaker 4: that says that about you in that situation in a tweet.

2040
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's fine. It's like I just wanted to

2041
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 3: clarify it because you know, I'd hate to think that

2042
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:40,240
Speaker 3: that's what he thinks of about hearing the way we

2043
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 3: talk about it, like my kids, you know, the way

2044
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 3: we expose them to music. I think it's beautiful. Like

2045
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 3: I think it's the greatest gift in the world. I

2046
01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:53,680
Speaker 3: wish I had your gift. I admire. Listen to you

2047
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 3: play and I haven't heard you play classical. Listening to

2048
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 3: you play it is amazing, like we play it. So

2049
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 3: Mark will play it coming out at times and I'm

2050
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 3: just my marvel at it. What's amazing skill, whatever's skill

2051
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 3: you have, but that's incredible. I had my kids, you know,

2052
01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 3: Mosmo was and drums, Anthony was doing the sacks like

2053
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,639
Speaker 3: they don't if they tried it, and if they if

2054
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,759
Speaker 3: they had a love for.

2055
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 2: It or had acuity for it.

2056
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 3: I would, Hey, man, let's go like, whatever you're into

2057
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:30,599
Speaker 3: and that's your gift that God gives you, then we're

2058
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 3: gonna do whatever we can to to make it come

2059
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 3: to fruition and the least please, you know, to achieve it,

2060
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 3: you know, just to do it.

2061
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Speaker 4: Also, like your your kids have shown a skill there.

2062
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 4: I think that's also part of it. Like you know,

2063
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 4: for for me is once it became a parent that

2064
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 4: I had a musical skill. My parents put everything they

2065
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 4: you know, I've certainly I've had plenty of I've always

2066
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 4: been open and honest about the fact that I don't

2067
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 4: have any relationship with my family. But I also am

2068
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 4: always wildly open honest about the fact that my parents

2069
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 4: sacrificed a lot when I was a kid to try

2070
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 4: and make music as possible for me as it could be.

2071
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:13,600
Speaker 4: Because I think you have to do that, and I

2072
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 4: watch you do the same with your kids constantly, like

2073
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 4: the number of times that you know, we're finishing a

2074
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 4: show and you're running to a baseball tournament, because that's

2075
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 4: just part of that's part of the role you've taken

2076
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 4: on here. So I think, you know, if somebody's listening

2077
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 4: for the first time, maybe they perceive this differently. If

2078
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 4: you've listened to it for the course of even our

2079
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 4: two years working together, I would have to clap back

2080
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 4: a little bit and say, like, being a dedicated dad

2081
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 4: and being super into your parents pushing to be the

2082
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 4: best they could be is not a bad thing. I

2083
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 4: cannot say. I've said this story a million times, but

2084
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 4: I will say it again. When I was I guess

2085
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 4: ten and I was getting ready for Cardie Hall, I

2086
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 4: was practicing. One day, my mom came in the room

2087
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 4: and she just looked at me and loudly said, loud

2088
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 4: in my mom's tone, she said, you know, if that's

2089
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 4: the best you can play the gd thing, just put

2090
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,639
Speaker 4: it away today. And like when I say that to people,

2091
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 4: like they they look at shock and all. But like

2092
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 4: my mom knew that I was capable of certain things,

2093
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 4: and her whole thing was like the minute you pick

2094
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 4: it up, be the best that you can be every

2095
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 4: single day. That didn't make her a bad mom. That

2096
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 4: made her, you know, somebody that was more invested in

2097
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 4: my music than anybody she was invested in. Like, go

2098
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 4: be the best that you can be. You're invested in

2099
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 4: your kids in the same way. Go be the best

2100
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 4: that you can be. I don't think you should have

2101
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 4: to or anybody should apologize for that. There's a line

2102
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 4: like you you know, there's a lot of the market

2103
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,480
Speaker 4: which is very real and very dangerous.

2104
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 8: But I think the other side of your mom knew

2105
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 8: you knew that she could hear the notes, like she

2106
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 8: knew what like you said, she knew what you were

2107
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 8: capable of.

2108
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 2: Like that's pretty powerful.

2109
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,080
Speaker 4: I mean that's the thing. Like you know, when when

2110
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 4: I first started at Yahoo a couple of years ago,

2111
01:50:56,040 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 4: after my ESPN chapter, the CEO of Yahoo Sports, Right Spoon,

2112
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:03,799
Speaker 4: we had like an all hands meeting and Spoon played

2113
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 4: this video and it had footage of Saban and Shryshevski

2114
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 4: Boll saying the same thing. Never worry about being the best,

2115
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 4: because when you're worried about being the best, you're trying

2116
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,960
Speaker 4: to control variables you can't control. Worry about being your

2117
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 4: best every day, you know. And that concept to me

2118
01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 4: to this day, like, that's what my mom always said.

2119
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 4: My mom always said when I would compete, when I

2120
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 4: was competing internationally in violin competitions, my mom always said, like,

2121
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 4: you don't have to win, you just have to be

2122
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 4: the best you've ever been today on that stage. That's

2123
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 4: the expectation, is that right now, in this moment, you're

2124
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,799
Speaker 4: the absolute best. And if somebody's better, then you Okay,

2125
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:41,679
Speaker 4: Like then go back to the drawing board, keep working

2126
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 4: your tail off. I think that's the principle that comes

2127
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:46,600
Speaker 4: from high level anything that is a good thing. And

2128
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:49,599
Speaker 4: I would never fault you for driving your kids towards

2129
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 4: being their best, which is what I think you do.

2130
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 2: Well, thanks buddy, all right, we'll say quick too.

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Speaker 3: Will come right back where the fells Jason Fitz Anthony

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Speaker 2: Now here's the tire rack play of the day.

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Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Finals at the Garden Halliburton, Haliburton.

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Speaker 9: With the left hand. As we move inside of four minutes,

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Speaker 9: let's one fly cold blooded A three right through the middle.

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01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 9: He's got fourteen one hundred and six to ninety nine

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01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 9: three minutes and forty two seconds remain in the fourth four.

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Speaker 3: There you know, tire rack play today. So little inside radio,

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01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 3: so Brion were going back and forth. So bre wanted

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01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 3: originally was going to play the uh Devers Rathfield Devers

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01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 3: City Grand Slam LA.

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Speaker 2: It's like because they by the.

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Speaker 3: Way, the Orioles, My god, you want to talk about

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01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 3: a collapse, epic collapse. But she wanted to use that

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01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:20,640
Speaker 3: as the Tyraq play today. I said, you got to

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01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 3: use the Conference finals. But she was right in that

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01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 3: the call. There's four minutes to go in the game.

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01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:31,680
Speaker 3: You gotta give me a little more than that fancy.

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01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I feel like you're

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01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 4: right though. You had to go with the Conference Final,

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01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 4: like it's just too big of an outcome too big

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01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 4: of a deal he had to go with that. But man,

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01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 4: I'm kind of with you there, especially in the game

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01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 4: that was down to the wire with the last couple

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01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 4: of minutes, I think I better cut.

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01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:55,320
Speaker 6: And if maybe I would have worked and actually edited

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01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 6: the game, I probably would have got a better cut,

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01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:00,080
Speaker 6: you know, But I didn't work, so I didn't have

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01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:02,480
Speaker 6: anything good to play.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean. I think in the in

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01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 4: the a number one you shouldn't have to an number one. Uh,

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01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 4: you're you're your top dog, like somebody should be doing

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Speaker 4: that for you. Number one, Uh, you know you need

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01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 4: an assistant on an assistant to cut those things. And

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01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 4: number two, you know, I think maybe next time we

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01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 4: should just voice our own like what we thought it

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Speaker 4: would sound like, and we'll just kind of see where

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01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 4: it was, you know, Halliburton with the big bucket. You know,

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01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 4: we could have picked one of the Sakam buckets and

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01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 4: like done like our own, like see you later see

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01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 4: our call, sort like we could have done something, We

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01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 4: could have could have figured something out. Yeah, it's a

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01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 4: tough broadcast, not gonna lie.

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01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 3: Well, but and I feel you all right because we

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01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 3: love Bribrie here. But I gotta tell you, like what

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01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:52,280
Speaker 3: that three puts them up seven. There's four minutes to

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01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 3: go in the game. At the breech points, he's right, like,

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01:54:56,040 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 3: you gotta give me more Halliburton drills the three. Bet

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01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 3: I okay, we're I mean, you gotta go give me

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01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 3: a little more gusts right channel You're in.

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Speaker 4: The problem is it? This is the guard off season

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01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 4: of like the off season of twenty point comebacks in

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01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 4: like a minute and a half, right, So, like you know,

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01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 4: you got to save a little bit of that that

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01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 4: little little little little chest puffin for the close to

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01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 4: the end, maybe, like I think you know, but you're right,

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01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 4: like I do, I kind of like a play by

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01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 4: play person in general that gets, you know, like you

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01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 4: feel like maybe they've just gotten like poked in their

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01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 4: no no places or something, right, and there's a big bucket.

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Speaker 4: I want that level of like oh excitement coming out

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Speaker 4: and NOEA.

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01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 3: Well yeah, And I also want like it's listen, I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying you gotta be like that.

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Speaker 2: Four minutes to go in the first quarter.

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01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 3: Four minutes to go into game of Game two of

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01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference Finals, when you got your team is

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01:55:57,480 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 3: about to take the go go goes up seven at

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01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 3: the guard and on the road, I don't know. I

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01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 3: think you need more of a you know, you gotta

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01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 3: give me more gusts. You gotta get me speed off.

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Speaker 2: How a burnt back pacers up seven? You know you

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01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 2: gotta give me something. Man, you gotta get me fired off.

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01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:23,520
Speaker 3: You can go all right, but like, dude, you could

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01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 3: do that for the last four minutes. It's it's a big.

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01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 4: That's fair. The governor did not get his harrumph, I

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01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 4: didn't get her wrong out of that guy. I think

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01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 4: there's a there's You're right. I like, I'm easily excitable, though,

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01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 4: like I'll be honest, Like, I think the reason that

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01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 4: it would be bad listening to me do play by

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01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 4: play on an NBA game, other than European pronunciations. I

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01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 4: think the other part of it would just be that

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01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:56,240
Speaker 4: the number of times I would I would yell like

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01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 4: the play had tremendous meaning, because I just that's how

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01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 4: I watched sports. It's like every play is life or death.

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01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, play by place, I love

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01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:08,839
Speaker 4: that balance. But you're in the garden, you know that's yeah, yeah,

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01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, are you right? That is Gus. That

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01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 4: is Gus.

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01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 2: Look, I love a big you know he was excited

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01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 2: first the first quarter.

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01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 3: Notre Dame Indiana, you know, stop all third like I

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01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 3: love that.

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01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 2: Like, give me excitement because I'm excited. I think you'd

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01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 2: be great at it.

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01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:30,120
Speaker 4: There we go. When I found my next calling, I'm

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01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 4: gonna start working on those European pronunciations.

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Speaker 2: All right, big al we're coming up next. I'm going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Fellas on Fox Sports Radio, Good morning, Good morning, buddy,

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01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 3: happy happy, happy Memorial Day weekends Saturday. That's right to

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Speaker 3: Saturday with the Fellas. Jason Fitz, Anthony Garganto FITZI hanging

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01:57:58,160 --> 01:58:00,600
Speaker 3: with you guys on this house all day weekend. I

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Speaker 3: hope everybody enjoys it. One of those great three day

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Speaker 3: weekends at Ushers in summer. It's the gateway to summer

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. And of course our hearts go out

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01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:16,040
Speaker 3: to all of those who served. We honor them, we

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01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 3: cherish them. Uh Fitzy wait wait wait.

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Speaker 4: Wait real quick, you just said the gateway to summer. Yes,

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01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 4: I got the heat on in my house all right,

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01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 4: the heat is on and not the song. All right,

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01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 4: this isn't great music. I've literally got the heat on.

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01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 4: Like it's been in the forties in Connecticut over the

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Speaker 4: course of this week. So like, this is this first

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Speaker 4: time I've ever felt this Connecticut who had broken me?

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01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 2: All right?

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01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:42,360
Speaker 4: Winter has broken me. I am done with it. It's

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01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 4: in the forties, aware now, Like as we speak, right now,

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Speaker 4: I get the heat on and a hoodie on, and

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01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:50,000
Speaker 4: it's almost summer. Like, what the hell's happening? What the

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01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 4: hell is happening right now? Anthony?

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01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 3: Well, I got to you know what, it's not much

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01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 3: warmer down here. I'm in Philly, and it's what is

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01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 3: it here? It's it's not you know, it's fifty five

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Speaker 3: degrees and it feels.

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01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 4: Like I shouldn't I shouldn't have to worry about Like

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01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:06,360
Speaker 4: I shouldn't have to have the heat on in my

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01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:09,320
Speaker 4: car this close to summer. I just, as a general rule,

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01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:12,440
Speaker 4: I'm out. I'm out like weather. God's hear me. Now,

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01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 4: you win, you win, I lose. I'm sorry, You're right,

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01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:18,320
Speaker 4: I'm wrong. Whatever it takes to turn this trend around.

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01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:19,680
Speaker 4: Just give me some heat.

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01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 3: I know, no, I hear, I hear you man, listen,

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01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 3: you know it's been a long baseball spring because we're playing,

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01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:31,080
Speaker 3: and you know, between all the rain drops and it's

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01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 3: cold and windy, hasn't been the greatest spring for our

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01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 3: baseball squad either.

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Speaker 2: Uh So, well, the top stories, let's go through, and we.

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Speaker 3: Talked a lot about a lot of things during the

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01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:49,080
Speaker 3: first three hours of the program. Of course, last night

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01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:51,560
Speaker 3: we've talked a lot about Indiana.

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01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:56,520
Speaker 2: Shock in the world at New York last night, where

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01:59:56,560 --> 02:00:01,840
Speaker 2: the Pacers nah take a strike hold all this series.

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Speaker 3: Well after the shocking win in Game one, I mean,

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Speaker 3: that was unbelievable. They did the same thing to Cleveland, right,

2282
02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 3: they did it to Milwaukee. It's amazing what that team

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Speaker 3: is done. And then they shocked the world. Larry David's

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02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 3: face what there was a great like a little video

2285
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 3: going around Twitter where it's the Curb your Enthusiasm music

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02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 3: and it's his face watching the Knicks lose that game.

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02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:39,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's unthinkable. It was off the board with

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02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:42,720
Speaker 3: the kids. Sports books like the Brain will be coming

2289
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:45,880
Speaker 3: up said you couldn't even bet it if you want it.

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02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 3: When the Knicks were up by nine with forty five

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Speaker 3: seconds ago end up with fourteen with a minute and

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02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 3: a half to go.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the ability to suffocate the Garden so hard

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02:01:00,640 --> 02:01:04,120
Speaker 4: to do. And to think of how loud it was

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02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:07,680
Speaker 4: there in both Game one and two with just a

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Speaker 4: few minutes left, and how quickly all of that energy

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02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 4: just was taken away. Like I saw this the image

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Speaker 4: last night as they were, of course trying to find

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Speaker 4: Chalo May somewhere in the crowd. Of course I always

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Speaker 4: gotta find him course side, But behind him there was

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Speaker 4: what looked like a dad and his two kids, probably

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Speaker 4: two high school maybe college aged kids, and they were

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Speaker 4: all sort of standing there bewildered at the end of

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Speaker 4: the game. And all I kept thinking is three four

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02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:35,720
Speaker 4: rows back. Those tickets were probably fifteen k each, right, So,

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02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:39,120
Speaker 4: like you spent forty five thousand dollars to go to

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Speaker 4: the Garden and watch your team lose in the last

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Speaker 4: couple of minutes, and that's the second straight time that's happened. Like,

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Speaker 4: just the want for the Garden and Knicks fans to

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Speaker 4: just explode with energy is so real. It's so palpable.

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02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:57,360
Speaker 4: I mean, we obviously all saw it flow into the

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Speaker 4: streets after Boston. To be able to not only.

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Speaker 3: Win the game, streets after players, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And then to see Indiana just not even give

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02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:13,840
Speaker 4: a damn about that, like ice in the veins of

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02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:16,960
Speaker 4: all the like Indiana just on the court, in the

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Speaker 4: in their eyes, like in their body moved. They just

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Speaker 4: seem unfazed by anything the garden throws at them, Like

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02:02:22,240 --> 02:02:26,040
Speaker 4: they just they don't care about this garden atmosphere that

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02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:28,160
Speaker 4: we keep seeing every single night. Like I think it's

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Speaker 4: one of the most impressive parts of what they've done here,

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02:02:30,240 --> 02:02:33,120
Speaker 4: Like this is different than beating Cleveland, who was a

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02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:38,120
Speaker 4: good basketball team. This is beating that entire arena full

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Speaker 4: of stars and energy and that that vibe. I just

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Speaker 4: I think it's it's it's truly incredible what Indiana did.

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Speaker 3: Oh Well said, you're right on man. I'll tell you

2327
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:51,640
Speaker 3: one thing at we talk a lot about Halburn.

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Speaker 2: Is a killer man.

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02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 3: He's a terrific ballplayer man. And all he does is

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02:02:58,440 --> 02:03:04,560
Speaker 3: put up monster how of a player in Toronto, and

2331
02:03:04,760 --> 02:03:06,839
Speaker 3: he never gets any kind of praise.

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Speaker 4: It's funny to me because the Toronto win in the

2333
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 4: championship was so defined by the legacy of Kawhi that

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02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:22,160
Speaker 4: I truly believe, and I said earlier, I'll double down

2335
02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:25,600
Speaker 4: on it. There are so many people that were watching

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02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 4: Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals, and we're like, oh,

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02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 4: Seacam's there now, like oh, Like it's it's amazing to

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02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:36,600
Speaker 4: me that somebody that has had the accomplish accomplishments he's

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02:03:36,640 --> 02:03:39,680
Speaker 4: had from a personal infom a team standpoint, is such

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02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:42,480
Speaker 4: an afterthought in this league because there are so many

2341
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:45,520
Speaker 4: big name stars that it just feels like we gravitate

2342
02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:49,360
Speaker 4: towards and Siakam going. Maybe it's because it's Toronto and

2343
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:52,680
Speaker 4: now Indiana. Maybe it just doesn't feel like those markets

2344
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:55,240
Speaker 4: have as much attention or those teams have as much attention.

2345
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:58,880
Speaker 4: But my god, I mean last night watching him over

2346
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:00,720
Speaker 4: and over and over again, and all I kept thinking

2347
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:04,120
Speaker 4: about was, yeah, this totally makes sense. When a guy's

2348
02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:07,000
Speaker 4: got a ring, when he's got a trophy, this moment

2349
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,800
Speaker 4: doesn't matter to him. Like you want to talk about

2350
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:13,480
Speaker 4: improbable endings, Let's go back to you know, the shot

2351
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:16,120
Speaker 4: we all remember from Toronto that you know went off

2352
02:04:16,120 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 4: the rim thirty two times, Like Siakam has seen how

2353
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:22,680
Speaker 4: much basketball in his life? Right, Like it just it

2354
02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:25,320
Speaker 4: just felt like last night was just another game for him,

2355
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:28,040
Speaker 4: and he literally rose above defenders in his face all

2356
02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:29,360
Speaker 4: night long it is crazy.

2357
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:32,640
Speaker 3: It's a true and you know it's funny because he

2358
02:04:32,720 --> 02:04:37,200
Speaker 3: scores thirty nine in thirty three minutes. He's fifteen for

2359
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:40,720
Speaker 3: twenty free for the field, three for five from three.

2360
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:43,280
Speaker 3: You know, he had a little foul trouble, so that

2361
02:04:43,520 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 3: kind of limited a little bit. But my god, you know,

2362
02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:49,760
Speaker 3: thirty nine and thirty three minutes. I mean, that's a night.

2363
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:53,760
Speaker 3: You want to talk about quieting celebrity row, that's a night.

2364
02:04:54,080 --> 02:05:00,760
Speaker 3: Now tonight we got Game three OKC Minnesota. Every shifts

2365
02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:05,520
Speaker 3: to Minneapolis anything year FITCI do the Wolves?

2366
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:09,800
Speaker 2: The can the Wolves win this Game three?

2367
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:11,880
Speaker 4: I mean it will be an electric vibe there. I

2368
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:15,200
Speaker 4: mean I want to give Minnesota some credit. Uh and

2369
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:18,800
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards is going to be spectacular because that we

2370
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:21,720
Speaker 4: just take that, we take that for granted at this

2371
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:24,880
Speaker 4: point is going. I don't even think we always say

2372
02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:27,840
Speaker 4: who's the other one. I think a couple of guys

2373
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:31,120
Speaker 4: would have to have a huge game for Minnesota to

2374
02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:32,920
Speaker 4: be able to take one from Oklahoma City, And I

2375
02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 4: just I don't see that happening. Like there's a there's

2376
02:05:37,600 --> 02:05:41,640
Speaker 4: a swarm mentality to okay see that. Just this team

2377
02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:45,120
Speaker 4: feels really prepared to constantly take the kill shot. You know,

2378
02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:48,440
Speaker 4: It's just I think it would take an implosion by

2379
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:50,800
Speaker 4: a flat game by okay see, which by the way,

2380
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:52,520
Speaker 4: is not the nature of this young team at all,

2381
02:05:52,840 --> 02:05:55,480
Speaker 4: and it would take a herculean effort from a couple

2382
02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:59,160
Speaker 4: of guys not named Anthony Edwards for Minnesota to win.

2383
02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:01,160
Speaker 4: So no, I don't see like this is gonna be

2384
02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:02,800
Speaker 4: a gentleman's sweep. I think they go up three to

2385
02:06:02,840 --> 02:06:04,840
Speaker 4: one and then end up winning him five.

2386
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could. I could totally feel you. I I

2387
02:06:09,040 --> 02:06:11,000
Speaker 3: just think the matchup is what it is. I thought

2388
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:19,840
Speaker 3: it was interesting going with Nikhil Walker trying to set

2389
02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:24,520
Speaker 3: he wound up sitting Randall really in the third quarter,

2390
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:30,680
Speaker 3: and he wound up playing ni kill the rest of

2391
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:34,200
Speaker 3: the game, in third quarter, all the fourth quarter. I

2392
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:37,360
Speaker 3: think they need to be athletic, play him, play nas

2393
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:38,040
Speaker 3: Reed more.

2394
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:39,400
Speaker 2: You know.

2395
02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:40,960
Speaker 3: I know what a hart and Stein to the game.

2396
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:44,360
Speaker 3: He wants to match it up with Gobert. But I

2397
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:48,120
Speaker 3: just don't think they lack athleticism right to be able

2398
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:49,080
Speaker 3: to match up with them.

2399
02:06:49,360 --> 02:06:53,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's not get it twisted. Julius Randall was

2400
02:06:53,280 --> 02:06:56,720
Speaker 4: benched because he has sucked throughout the course. I mean,

2401
02:06:56,840 --> 02:06:58,600
Speaker 4: just he was having a rough night.

2402
02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:01,000
Speaker 2: You know. Well he played well game so, I mean,

2403
02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:03,560
Speaker 2: you know, dropped, you know.

2404
02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 4: But game two he was just having a dismal Well

2405
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:08,480
Speaker 4: it was single digits, I don't remember for him, but

2406
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:11,920
Speaker 4: Game two he couldn't hit anything. And so if you're

2407
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:13,680
Speaker 4: just having one of those nights, now you've got to

2408
02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:15,760
Speaker 4: figure out as a team, was that just one of

2409
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:17,440
Speaker 4: those nights or is that a matchup issue?

2410
02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:17,640
Speaker 7: Right?

2411
02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:20,560
Speaker 4: Are you? Do you believe that Julius Reynold suddenly gets

2412
02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:23,720
Speaker 4: hot again or do you have a larger issue there

2413
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:27,240
Speaker 4: that you got to figure out? And man, I don't know.

2414
02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:31,040
Speaker 4: I feel for Minnesota because certainly remember that this is

2415
02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:33,960
Speaker 4: a Minnesota team that they let katwalk because they knew

2416
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:36,120
Speaker 4: that Cat wasn't gonna be the other guy that they needed.

2417
02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:38,040
Speaker 4: And I'm not sure as they sit right now they

2418
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:40,480
Speaker 4: still have the other guy they need. This just feels

2419
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:44,440
Speaker 4: like this feels like the closest thing to the the

2420
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 4: Milwaukee comp where it's like they spent years trying to

2421
02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:49,800
Speaker 4: figure out the right guy to get next to Giannis

2422
02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:52,880
Speaker 4: that could help you actually win a chip, and that's

2423
02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:55,320
Speaker 4: going to be the beast of Minnesota for the next

2424
02:07:55,400 --> 02:07:57,920
Speaker 4: year or two they got They've got to find that

2425
02:07:57,920 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 4: that next guy that can help them consent instantly, and

2426
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 4: that certainly Julius Randall being terrible is a part of

2427
02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:04,920
Speaker 4: why they got their butts whipped in Game two, and

2428
02:08:05,240 --> 02:08:07,360
Speaker 4: I thought that than the final.

2429
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think to your point, he needs Robin.

2430
02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 2: Who's the Robin.

2431
02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:19,160
Speaker 3: You know you got McDaniels, you got nice players, and

2432
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:22,640
Speaker 3: you know Randall was it was a late addition in

2433
02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:25,480
Speaker 3: that sense. I think you're right. I think he needs

2434
02:08:25,520 --> 02:08:29,800
Speaker 3: somebody else, he needs a wing. You need somebody, and

2435
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:35,480
Speaker 3: then you know Conley's older Gobar is again. I mean,

2436
02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:38,200
Speaker 3: a great defensive player could board the whole thing. But

2437
02:08:38,280 --> 02:08:41,480
Speaker 3: there are some matchup issues there. And I do think

2438
02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:45,120
Speaker 3: against an OKAC team, you're gonna have to try to

2439
02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:46,040
Speaker 3: be more athletic.

2440
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:47,320
Speaker 2: I know you want to.

2441
02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:49,160
Speaker 3: I know you want to play half court, which I

2442
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 3: think is great because OKAC is not good in half court.

2443
02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:57,120
Speaker 3: But they just because they're so athletic, they they make

2444
02:08:57,160 --> 02:08:58,160
Speaker 3: the game transition.

2445
02:08:58,480 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 2: They they forced you to players.

2446
02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:03,080
Speaker 4: You said they need to find their Robin, And I

2447
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:05,280
Speaker 4: want to go back to something you said earlier today

2448
02:09:05,760 --> 02:09:09,880
Speaker 4: that maybe we need to reimagine how these teams are

2449
02:09:09,920 --> 02:09:13,480
Speaker 4: being constructed, because to your point, I think what we're

2450
02:09:13,520 --> 02:09:18,040
Speaker 4: discovering is that Indiana and OKC are both built to

2451
02:09:18,080 --> 02:09:20,560
Speaker 4: be the Avengers. Like, there's a lot of guys on

2452
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:24,560
Speaker 4: those teams, and maybe not everybody is your a one

2453
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:27,560
Speaker 4: top of the mill superhero. Oh my god, they can't

2454
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:30,280
Speaker 4: carry their own movie franchise. But my god, when you

2455
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:33,720
Speaker 4: put them all together, the depth two teams. I just

2456
02:09:34,120 --> 02:09:38,080
Speaker 4: like sports are all copycat leagues. So if the NBA

2457
02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:39,880
Speaker 4: is going to copy anything from what I think is

2458
02:09:39,920 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 4: the inevitable final of Indiana versus Oklahoma City, it is.

2459
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:47,160
Speaker 4: It's not just about SGA and it's not just about Haliburton.

2460
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:50,080
Speaker 4: It's about having a bunch of guys around them that

2461
02:09:50,120 --> 02:09:52,920
Speaker 4: you can get in and out constantly that allow you

2462
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:54,960
Speaker 4: the ability to change what you do a little bit

2463
02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:56,640
Speaker 4: when you need to. It allows you the ability to

2464
02:09:56,640 --> 02:09:58,720
Speaker 4: be faster and more athletic. It allows you to ability

2465
02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:01,120
Speaker 4: not to wear down the course of a game. Like

2466
02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:04,880
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a miss, it's a it's a

2467
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:07,760
Speaker 4: coincidence that these first two games in the Eastern Conference

2468
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:10,440
Speaker 4: Final for Indiana have been really won in the last

2469
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:12,280
Speaker 4: four or five minutes. What do you know, the deeper

2470
02:10:12,320 --> 02:10:14,839
Speaker 4: team wins in the last four or five minutes like that,

2471
02:10:14,840 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 4: that makes it just taking your logic cat and putting

2472
02:10:17,080 --> 02:10:18,520
Speaker 4: it on. That makes sense, man.

2473
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:20,200
Speaker 2: So real quick.

2474
02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:22,880
Speaker 3: You know, we've ben't really talking any hockey playoffs, but

2475
02:10:23,680 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 3: two things that stand out.

2476
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:28,440
Speaker 2: One in Florida is ridiculous. We were all the.

2477
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:30,800
Speaker 3: Area of the mike when they were Barry and they

2478
02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 3: were on that ridiculous flurry and blew the game open.

2479
02:10:36,280 --> 02:10:40,080
Speaker 3: And they did the same thing the other night where

2480
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:41,879
Speaker 3: Carolina just can't play.

2481
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:43,400
Speaker 2: They just can't play.

2482
02:10:43,200 --> 02:10:46,480
Speaker 4: With them, Na, Florida. Look, I was rooting for Toronto

2483
02:10:46,520 --> 02:10:49,000
Speaker 4: because I wanted you know, I made our All Canada

2484
02:10:49,040 --> 02:10:52,800
Speaker 4: prediction when the Stanley Cup started. My prediction was Toronto

2485
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:56,000
Speaker 4: versus Edmonton. I feel pretty good about Edmonton coming back.

2486
02:10:56,240 --> 02:10:58,560
Speaker 4: They needed that win last night. But yeah, Florida. Right now,

2487
02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:02,240
Speaker 4: through the entirety of the Stanley Cup playoffs, Florida has

2488
02:11:02,320 --> 02:11:07,720
Speaker 4: looked like the unbeatable team, like just god goals and punches.

2489
02:11:08,480 --> 02:11:11,720
Speaker 4: It's not a surprise to me that their hammering the Hurricanes.

2490
02:11:12,160 --> 02:11:16,280
Speaker 4: It's just get ready for yet another you know, Florida

2491
02:11:16,320 --> 02:11:18,920
Speaker 4: team to hoist the cup, because boy, it looks like

2492
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:21,000
Speaker 4: Florida's gonna be tough to beat. I would love to

2493
02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:24,240
Speaker 4: see a ward where Edmonton takes them. But man, Florida,

2494
02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:26,920
Speaker 4: I'm presuming Florida is going to get through the rest

2495
02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:29,920
Speaker 4: of this Carolina series, This Dallas Edmonton series is going

2496
02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:31,640
Speaker 4: to be tooth and nail. Let's se how that one goes.

2497
02:11:31,680 --> 02:11:34,640
Speaker 4: But Florida looks just unstoppable right now.

2498
02:11:35,280 --> 02:11:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would.

2499
02:11:36,080 --> 02:11:38,320
Speaker 3: They take the first two games in Carolina, come back

2500
02:11:38,360 --> 02:11:40,960
Speaker 3: tonight in Florida.

2501
02:11:41,160 --> 02:11:43,800
Speaker 2: So you know, I I'm with you. I don't see

2502
02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:47,040
Speaker 2: how they lose. They just they just don't match. I

2503
02:11:47,080 --> 02:11:48,520
Speaker 2: don't think Carolina matches up.

2504
02:11:49,000 --> 02:11:51,880
Speaker 3: And you're right about the other series, But who thinks that,

2505
02:11:52,200 --> 02:11:56,200
Speaker 3: Like I thought, I Evanton out played Dallas up until that.

2506
02:11:56,480 --> 02:11:57,960
Speaker 3: You know, remember in the third period they had a

2507
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:01,400
Speaker 3: couple of penalties and Dallas scores three straight power plays

2508
02:12:01,400 --> 02:12:04,000
Speaker 3: to take the lead last night.

2509
02:12:05,160 --> 02:12:08,480
Speaker 2: Shutout. I mean I didn't see that shut out by Edmonton.

2510
02:12:08,920 --> 02:12:10,960
Speaker 4: No, I didn't at all, But I do think that

2511
02:12:11,800 --> 02:12:14,920
Speaker 4: the quote after the game, you know, from Connor McDavid,

2512
02:12:14,920 --> 02:12:17,480
Speaker 4: where he said, yeah, we can play defense. You know,

2513
02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:21,840
Speaker 4: I think they felt a little challenged after that Game one.

2514
02:12:21,960 --> 02:12:24,680
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, no, no, no, that that was an aberration.

2515
02:12:24,920 --> 02:12:27,600
Speaker 4: We're gonna remind you we can lock down and my god,

2516
02:12:27,680 --> 02:12:30,680
Speaker 4: that's why you know how many times because they win,

2517
02:12:32,080 --> 02:12:34,640
Speaker 4: they win Game two in a shutout, which they did

2518
02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:38,160
Speaker 4: to Vegas several times. Like, I just this Edmonton team

2519
02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:41,080
Speaker 4: can just lock you out of the net. And they also,

2520
02:12:41,120 --> 02:12:42,840
Speaker 4: by the way, I have the best player in the world,

2521
02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:46,480
Speaker 4: so you combine those two things. God, I just I'm

2522
02:12:46,520 --> 02:12:49,080
Speaker 4: not betting against Edmonton. I I it's one of the

2523
02:12:49,120 --> 02:12:50,920
Speaker 4: few times, brother, I think I've been right when a

2524
02:12:50,960 --> 02:12:53,760
Speaker 4: playoff started. And I'm just gonna keep luding it over everybody.

2525
02:12:53,800 --> 02:12:56,560
Speaker 4: I called this Edmonton thing. It's not like it's brilliant,

2526
02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:59,120
Speaker 4: it's not like it took a foresight, but I called it,

2527
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:01,520
Speaker 4: and every I watch them play, and I just think,

2528
02:13:01,800 --> 02:13:03,080
Speaker 4: night in and night out, if you got to bet

2529
02:13:03,120 --> 02:13:05,720
Speaker 4: your house on somebody, night in and night out, man, Edmonton,

2530
02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:08,000
Speaker 4: they have lived up to every expectation.

2531
02:13:08,480 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah you did, You're all over it.

2532
02:13:11,440 --> 02:13:14,880
Speaker 3: And then in the NFL this week, of course, we

2533
02:13:15,040 --> 02:13:17,880
Speaker 3: talked about the push Push, but we didn't talk about

2534
02:13:17,920 --> 02:13:23,839
Speaker 3: the NFL, not receeding like college football fixed their scene issue.

2535
02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:28,240
Speaker 3: There was some talk about the NFL changing the playoff

2536
02:13:28,360 --> 02:13:31,800
Speaker 3: seating where you would recede after the first round.

2537
02:13:31,800 --> 02:13:32,440
Speaker 2: They didn't do it.

2538
02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:36,680
Speaker 4: FITSI I'm actually glad, weirdly they didn't do it, because

2539
02:13:37,080 --> 02:13:40,880
Speaker 4: I do think that conference scheduling has to be fixed

2540
02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:42,440
Speaker 4: if you're going to do this, And what I mean

2541
02:13:42,480 --> 02:13:46,040
Speaker 4: by that is like, Okay, let's be honest, Tampa Bay

2542
02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:49,080
Speaker 4: is probably just going to absolutely stack wins against a

2543
02:13:49,120 --> 02:13:52,160
Speaker 4: pitiful NFC South, like Houston's gonna stack wins against the

2544
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:55,480
Speaker 4: pitiful AFC South. How do you judge, Like, if we're

2545
02:13:55,520 --> 02:13:58,160
Speaker 4: just going by record and receeding teams, there's a really

2546
02:13:58,200 --> 02:14:00,280
Speaker 4: good chance that Tampa Bay's gonna have a much better

2547
02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:03,800
Speaker 4: record than let's say, whoever the second place team is

2548
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:06,320
Speaker 4: out of the NFC East. But do we know that

2549
02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:09,120
Speaker 4: they're better simply because their records better? There's not enough

2550
02:14:09,160 --> 02:14:12,720
Speaker 4: equity in the scheduling within conferences. There is within divisions,

2551
02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:16,240
Speaker 4: but within conferences it can get so wildly different. I

2552
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:19,280
Speaker 4: think they'd have to really address that if they're going

2553
02:14:19,320 --> 02:14:21,400
Speaker 4: to recede, because there has to be a better way

2554
02:14:21,440 --> 02:14:23,880
Speaker 4: to have another Otherwise you're gonna end up with you know,

2555
02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:26,920
Speaker 4: no different than well, how can you rank you know this,

2556
02:14:26,920 --> 02:14:29,400
Speaker 4: this Mountain West team ahead of this SEC team. It's

2557
02:14:29,400 --> 02:14:31,120
Speaker 4: gonna be the same because some of these divisions in

2558
02:14:31,160 --> 02:14:32,680
Speaker 4: the NFL are trash some years.

2559
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you. I feel you on that.

2560
02:14:37,520 --> 02:14:40,800
Speaker 3: People were talking about the division and you know the

2561
02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:44,320
Speaker 3: sanctity of winning the division. But I feel with I

2562
02:14:44,360 --> 02:14:47,120
Speaker 3: feel like you do. I'm I'm with you on this thing.

2563
02:14:48,160 --> 02:14:50,760
Speaker 3: All right, we're to come back. We'll take a look

2564
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:54,600
Speaker 3: at the weekend from a betting standpoint with the brain.

2565
02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:55,440
Speaker 2: He'll join us.

2566
02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:58,520
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2572
02:15:13,280 --> 02:15:17,120
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2573
02:15:17,160 --> 02:15:19,600
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02:15:19,640 --> 02:15:22,840
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2575
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:27,280
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2576
02:15:28,240 --> 02:15:31,160
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2580
02:15:40,640 --> 02:15:45,880
Speaker 3: All right, fellas, Welcome back, Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano fits

2581
02:15:45,880 --> 02:15:49,840
Speaker 3: seeing it hanging out on this holiday weekend. Let's take

2582
02:15:49,840 --> 02:15:52,000
Speaker 3: a look at it, all the playoffs, all the baseball

2583
02:15:52,240 --> 02:15:56,000
Speaker 3: everything from a Betty standpoint.

2584
02:15:55,880 --> 02:15:57,600
Speaker 2: Joining us as he does each weekend.

2585
02:15:58,280 --> 02:16:02,720
Speaker 3: Oh man, the brain, the Brad Fineberg, Good morning.

2586
02:16:02,440 --> 02:16:05,680
Speaker 2: Brain, Good morning. How are you guys, sir?

2587
02:16:07,040 --> 02:16:10,080
Speaker 3: How's the brain? How's the brain this weekend? What's what's

2588
02:16:10,120 --> 02:16:11,640
Speaker 3: on tap for the holiday for you?

2589
02:16:12,520 --> 02:16:15,360
Speaker 5: I know, well, listen, I'm always looking forward to watching

2590
02:16:15,400 --> 02:16:19,280
Speaker 5: some good sports this weekend. And beautiful day here in Florida.

2591
02:16:19,400 --> 02:16:21,120
Speaker 5: So everything is good here.

2592
02:16:22,280 --> 02:16:25,240
Speaker 3: How about that? Fitsy, He's in Florida right now. We

2593
02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:29,280
Speaker 3: were just complaining with that in Florida, the h how

2594
02:16:29,320 --> 02:16:29,960
Speaker 3: cold it.

2595
02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:30,800
Speaker 2: Is in the.

2596
02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:35,640
Speaker 5: Always be a filly guy just for the records. But yeah,

2597
02:16:35,720 --> 02:16:37,400
Speaker 5: but yeah, moved to Florida.

2598
02:16:37,080 --> 02:16:38,640
Speaker 2: So yeah you're living.

2599
02:16:38,760 --> 02:16:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, not me. You know, the Florida things

2600
02:16:41,800 --> 02:16:43,680
Speaker 4: starting to sound better and better. I'm gonna be honest

2601
02:16:43,720 --> 02:16:45,960
Speaker 4: with your brain, like I don't know, I keep looking

2602
02:16:45,959 --> 02:16:48,320
Speaker 4: at like that Tampa Saint Petersburg area, and I'm thinking,

2603
02:16:48,360 --> 02:16:49,959
Speaker 4: you know what it might be, it might be time

2604
02:16:49,959 --> 02:16:52,480
Speaker 4: to head down to the ocean, Like I there's something

2605
02:16:52,480 --> 02:16:54,000
Speaker 4: to just put my feet in the end and and

2606
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:56,840
Speaker 4: like maybe work the summers at like some little tiki

2607
02:16:56,879 --> 02:16:59,879
Speaker 4: bar with the pina coladas. That That's what I'm talking about.

2608
02:16:59,879 --> 02:17:01,959
Speaker 4: Like it just it's just I can be like a

2609
02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:05,480
Speaker 4: beach bum Connecticut, right outside of the ESPN. It's just

2610
02:17:06,240 --> 02:17:08,400
Speaker 4: I'm up here freezing my toesies off. My toesies and

2611
02:17:08,440 --> 02:17:10,040
Speaker 4: my woesies are all getting frozen off.

2612
02:17:10,959 --> 02:17:16,199
Speaker 5: I understand. I understand. Maybe you'll make that move. Maybe

2613
02:17:16,200 --> 02:17:16,960
Speaker 5: you'll make that move.

2614
02:17:17,320 --> 02:17:20,240
Speaker 4: You know, I got a realtor like search I got.

2615
02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:22,160
Speaker 4: I got a search on the realtor app constantly that

2616
02:17:22,200 --> 02:17:25,080
Speaker 4: brings houses up in Tampa Saint Petersburg just to taunt

2617
02:17:25,120 --> 02:17:26,879
Speaker 4: me every few days. And I'm just I don't know,

2618
02:17:26,920 --> 02:17:28,959
Speaker 4: one of these days, Anthony, I'm just gonna be like

2619
02:17:28,959 --> 02:17:31,360
Speaker 4: I'm missing the show this weekend. I'm moving. It's just

2620
02:17:31,480 --> 02:17:33,800
Speaker 4: it's just it's just to be near the brain.

2621
02:17:34,360 --> 02:17:39,440
Speaker 2: You should. You should listen. My man balled, he's down there.

2622
02:17:40,120 --> 02:17:41,560
Speaker 2: He he loves it.

2623
02:17:42,400 --> 02:17:46,360
Speaker 3: He he doesn't want to come back up here. Everybody know,

2624
02:17:46,720 --> 02:17:50,480
Speaker 3: brain he loves it down there that by the way,

2625
02:17:50,480 --> 02:17:54,119
Speaker 3: clear Water. I love that that area where you're looking at.

2626
02:17:55,200 --> 02:17:58,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you've been spring training there. It's a great, great place.

2627
02:17:59,600 --> 02:18:05,240
Speaker 3: Great each beautiful beach, clear Water. Powder you'll be it.

2628
02:18:05,400 --> 02:18:08,080
Speaker 3: You'll be living or the beach bars.

2629
02:18:07,800 --> 02:18:10,119
Speaker 4: And come down and visit me. Come down. Yeah yeah,

2630
02:18:10,160 --> 02:18:12,240
Speaker 4: hitting the bars, Oh yeah, hitting the bars down there.

2631
02:18:12,280 --> 02:18:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, sure, sure all my man, let's get to it.

2632
02:18:17,720 --> 02:18:26,480
Speaker 3: Last night, sir Indian. You know we liked yesterday. I

2633
02:18:26,560 --> 02:18:27,439
Speaker 3: told you yesterday.

2634
02:18:27,800 --> 02:18:31,640
Speaker 5: What's interesting thing again, like nicker up won nothing. So

2635
02:18:31,879 --> 02:18:35,600
Speaker 5: there's just the assumption because they lost game one that

2636
02:18:35,600 --> 02:18:39,240
Speaker 5: they're just automatically going to win game two. And I'm like, man,

2637
02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:43,200
Speaker 5: this line on its own merriage should have been three

2638
02:18:43,240 --> 02:18:46,320
Speaker 5: and a half maybe four max. And you got a

2639
02:18:46,400 --> 02:18:48,920
Speaker 5: three point tax because they lose game one. And I

2640
02:18:49,320 --> 02:18:52,039
Speaker 5: say to myself, you were in the final four here,

2641
02:18:52,040 --> 02:18:54,000
Speaker 5: and I said, I go, you know, and he as

2642
02:18:54,040 --> 02:18:55,959
Speaker 5: just say, okay, we're not going to try. We got

2643
02:18:55,959 --> 02:18:58,959
Speaker 5: our game, let's just go back one one. I've never

2644
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:03,360
Speaker 5: understood that lot, like people just assume because the team

2645
02:19:03,400 --> 02:19:05,600
Speaker 5: loses game one and the other team's just going to

2646
02:19:05,680 --> 02:19:09,199
Speaker 5: automatically win game two. And yeah, there was a nice

2647
02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:11,879
Speaker 5: streamium available on Indiana last night and they took it.

2648
02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:12,080
Speaker 3: Me.

2649
02:19:13,080 --> 02:19:15,440
Speaker 5: That was not a fluke, Anthony. Look, I know you

2650
02:19:15,560 --> 02:19:17,879
Speaker 5: really liked Indiana to win series. You told me how

2651
02:19:17,879 --> 02:19:20,560
Speaker 5: confident you were that they were the better team. And well,

2652
02:19:20,959 --> 02:19:23,880
Speaker 5: I mean, look, what can you say? It's great, great

2653
02:19:23,879 --> 02:19:25,160
Speaker 5: performance to be up to nothing.

2654
02:19:25,520 --> 02:19:27,800
Speaker 4: Yea, So what do we make of it? Then when

2655
02:19:27,800 --> 02:19:29,960
Speaker 4: you win the first two games on the road, Because

2656
02:19:30,080 --> 02:19:33,080
Speaker 4: you're right, we overplay some of these home court of managers.

2657
02:19:33,080 --> 02:19:35,800
Speaker 4: So now are we over compensating by saying, man like,

2658
02:19:35,879 --> 02:19:37,879
Speaker 4: it looks like Indiana's got this thing under control.

2659
02:19:38,040 --> 02:19:39,800
Speaker 5: Well, I would just say I look at every game

2660
02:19:39,840 --> 02:19:41,879
Speaker 5: on its own merch. I was surprised, and I hadn't

2661
02:19:41,959 --> 02:19:45,040
Speaker 5: looked this morning what it was. But last night I

2662
02:19:45,080 --> 02:19:49,240
Speaker 5: saw the opening line and it did surprise me. I

2663
02:19:50,440 --> 02:19:53,480
Speaker 5: thought Indiana would be at least a three and a

2664
02:19:53,520 --> 02:19:55,480
Speaker 5: half point favorite. I saw one and a half night.

2665
02:19:55,480 --> 02:19:57,959
Speaker 5: I'm seen what it is this morning. I've been doing

2666
02:19:58,040 --> 02:20:01,960
Speaker 5: other work, but I thought that that line was again light. Uh,

2667
02:20:02,120 --> 02:20:05,039
Speaker 5: you know, I think Indiana's every pit is good as

2668
02:20:05,040 --> 02:20:08,520
Speaker 5: a team, So but again they're obviously saying nix quote unquote,

2669
02:20:08,560 --> 02:20:12,360
Speaker 5: obviously do to win, must win game. But again, if

2670
02:20:12,360 --> 02:20:15,560
Speaker 5: I'm an Indiana player and Indiana coach or whatever, I'm like,

2671
02:20:15,600 --> 02:20:17,800
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Okay, we're up to nothing. We don't need

2672
02:20:17,879 --> 02:20:19,640
Speaker 5: to we don't need to go as hard here. I

2673
02:20:19,640 --> 02:20:21,680
Speaker 5: don't know, I just starting with the home crowd again,

2674
02:20:21,720 --> 02:20:27,320
Speaker 5: I think Indiana should win both games. Quite frankly, I do.

2675
02:20:27,640 --> 02:20:29,879
Speaker 5: I don't think anything we you know, like that's just

2676
02:20:29,920 --> 02:20:32,520
Speaker 5: my opinion. But we'll see that plays out, all.

2677
02:20:32,560 --> 02:20:37,959
Speaker 3: Right, So let's go today or tonight, Okay, see Minnesota

2678
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:43,600
Speaker 3: Game three, the series shifts to Minnesota. I just keep thinking,

2679
02:20:43,879 --> 02:20:47,439
Speaker 3: you know, we talked about, okay, see being superior athletically,

2680
02:20:48,560 --> 02:20:51,000
Speaker 3: and it just seems like a bad matchup.

2681
02:20:52,280 --> 02:20:54,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, you know, it's trying, Anthony, like it's been

2682
02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:57,400
Speaker 5: like you know, sometimes in football, there's a game, you

2683
02:20:57,440 --> 02:20:59,560
Speaker 5: know where they say that team could be a three

2684
02:20:59,640 --> 02:21:02,480
Speaker 5: quarter team where they could hang with you for three quarters,

2685
02:21:02,520 --> 02:21:06,240
Speaker 5: then in the fourth quarter, the other team's dominance or

2686
02:21:06,280 --> 02:21:09,800
Speaker 5: that team's shortcomings, you know, over the long hauld, they

2687
02:21:09,840 --> 02:21:12,680
Speaker 5: just can't compete quite for four quarters, maybe only for three.

2688
02:21:13,200 --> 02:21:15,480
Speaker 5: That's kind of the way it's been like watching.

2689
02:21:15,160 --> 02:21:16,080
Speaker 2: This series so far.

2690
02:21:17,120 --> 02:21:21,720
Speaker 5: Minnesota Game one, hung around for almost three quarters Game one,

2691
02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:24,240
Speaker 5: and then they just they just didn't have it. They

2692
02:21:24,320 --> 02:21:28,039
Speaker 5: hung around for about two and a half quarters Game two,

2693
02:21:28,640 --> 02:21:31,760
Speaker 5: and I couldn't hang the rest of the way. Look,

2694
02:21:31,840 --> 02:21:35,400
Speaker 5: we'll see. I do think that Minnesota is a good team, though,

2695
02:21:35,440 --> 02:21:41,200
Speaker 5: I do, and I just keep thinking that Oka See

2696
02:21:41,280 --> 02:21:45,400
Speaker 5: against Denver. Denver was able to really push them and

2697
02:21:45,840 --> 02:21:49,160
Speaker 5: they were able to get three games against them. Look,

2698
02:21:49,200 --> 02:21:50,840
Speaker 5: the line is sitting at two and a half three

2699
02:21:50,879 --> 02:21:53,760
Speaker 5: for OKC. I actually thought it would be a little

2700
02:21:53,800 --> 02:21:55,720
Speaker 5: bit lower than that, believe it or not. I thought

2701
02:21:55,720 --> 02:21:58,080
Speaker 5: it'd be maybe more like one and a half two

2702
02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:01,720
Speaker 5: did It's a slight lean here, Anthony, believe or not.

2703
02:22:01,800 --> 02:22:04,360
Speaker 5: Me For Minnesota, I do think they find a way

2704
02:22:04,360 --> 02:22:06,440
Speaker 5: to win one of these two games, but I haven't

2705
02:22:06,440 --> 02:22:08,640
Speaker 5: bet it because I do think Okay See is the

2706
02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:11,440
Speaker 5: better team. So I'm not going to officially better, but

2707
02:22:11,480 --> 02:22:14,000
Speaker 5: my knee actually would beat of Minnesota.

2708
02:22:14,080 --> 02:22:14,640
Speaker 4: I did better.

2709
02:22:16,160 --> 02:22:19,080
Speaker 5: Yes, Julius Randall guys had gone over seventeen and a

2710
02:22:19,120 --> 02:22:22,040
Speaker 5: half points ten straight games, Okay, and his old runner

2711
02:22:22,120 --> 02:22:24,000
Speaker 5: for Game two was twenty and a half. Now, he

2712
02:22:24,080 --> 02:22:27,840
Speaker 5: had an awful game. Awful game in Game two against

2713
02:22:28,200 --> 02:22:30,720
Speaker 5: they benched him. They actually benched him, which was crazy

2714
02:22:30,720 --> 02:22:33,400
Speaker 5: to me. He'd been I thought, the best player in

2715
02:22:33,400 --> 02:22:35,680
Speaker 5: the entire postseason. I'm not going to even I don't

2716
02:22:35,680 --> 02:22:38,320
Speaker 5: think I'm exaggerating. I think until Game two he'd been

2717
02:22:38,440 --> 02:22:40,520
Speaker 5: better than Shay, better than anyone. I think he'd been.

2718
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:44,480
Speaker 5: The best player in the postseason was Julius Randall. He's

2719
02:22:44,480 --> 02:22:48,920
Speaker 5: been just dominant, and they carried this team to this point.

2720
02:22:49,080 --> 02:22:50,520
Speaker 5: And again, I never thought of him as that kind

2721
02:22:50,520 --> 02:22:54,000
Speaker 5: of player, but he's played great, had an awful Game two.

2722
02:22:54,080 --> 02:22:57,600
Speaker 5: Look I bet over seventeen and a half. I did. Again,

2723
02:22:57,800 --> 02:22:59,880
Speaker 5: I just think he was on a very good run.

2724
02:22:59,680 --> 02:23:03,200
Speaker 5: And I'm going to take the three point discount because

2725
02:23:03,200 --> 02:23:05,199
Speaker 5: they had a bad game in Game two. Again, obviously,

2726
02:23:05,200 --> 02:23:07,240
Speaker 5: I don't think he's as good as Anthony Edwards Orshey.

2727
02:23:07,240 --> 02:23:09,760
Speaker 5: I'm just saying he's played really well in the postseason.

2728
02:23:09,800 --> 02:23:11,920
Speaker 5: He's averaging around twenty five a game, and he was

2729
02:23:11,920 --> 02:23:15,200
Speaker 5: shooting in a great percentage. I think seventeen halfs too low.

2730
02:23:15,879 --> 02:23:18,400
Speaker 3: Do you think about we were talking about this. The

2731
02:23:18,520 --> 02:23:23,080
Speaker 3: problem I think is athleticism. Sure, I mean, like with Gobert,

2732
02:23:23,120 --> 02:23:25,360
Speaker 3: I know they want to go Bert to neutralize heart

2733
02:23:25,360 --> 02:23:29,119
Speaker 3: AND's time, but yeah, I think they need nas Reed

2734
02:23:29,200 --> 02:23:30,160
Speaker 3: to play a little more.

2735
02:23:30,320 --> 02:23:32,320
Speaker 5: I think that's not going to happen after I agree

2736
02:23:32,360 --> 02:23:34,000
Speaker 5: with you. And we saw nas Reeds play a lot

2737
02:23:34,040 --> 02:23:36,520
Speaker 5: more minutes in him two And it's funny. I was

2738
02:23:36,520 --> 02:23:38,680
Speaker 5: looking to play nas Reads over, but they did jack

2739
02:23:38,760 --> 02:23:41,800
Speaker 5: it up. I bet over nine and a half in

2740
02:23:41,879 --> 02:23:44,000
Speaker 5: game two. He landed on ten, fortunately for me, but

2741
02:23:44,280 --> 02:23:45,959
Speaker 5: they now made it eleven and a half. They did

2742
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:48,080
Speaker 5: raise that two points. But I agree with you.

2743
02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:52,480
Speaker 3: Look Gobert, even Alexander Walker who played for Julius Randall,

2744
02:23:52,680 --> 02:23:54,160
Speaker 3: and he played well.

2745
02:23:55,640 --> 02:23:59,280
Speaker 5: He did, He absolutely did, he absolutely did. I agree

2746
02:23:59,320 --> 02:24:02,360
Speaker 5: with you. And you know what's interesting. You talk about Anthony,

2747
02:24:02,400 --> 02:24:04,760
Speaker 5: you mentioned Gobert, and it's for such a player who's

2748
02:24:04,760 --> 02:24:08,440
Speaker 5: had an accomplished career like he's had, it's very interesting

2749
02:24:08,480 --> 02:24:11,480
Speaker 5: when you look at him. It's it's been season. It's

2750
02:24:11,480 --> 02:24:13,680
Speaker 5: guys on me. I'm just keeping it real. After postseason

2751
02:24:13,760 --> 02:24:17,120
Speaker 5: or postseason where he's been exposed, even going back to

2752
02:24:17,160 --> 02:24:19,880
Speaker 5: his Jazz days against the Clippers, that series where he

2753
02:24:19,920 --> 02:24:21,400
Speaker 5: wins the Defensive Player of the Year and then you

2754
02:24:21,440 --> 02:24:23,720
Speaker 5: can't play the guy in the playoffs. It's just that

2755
02:24:23,840 --> 02:24:26,959
Speaker 5: he's had such an interesting career, but that is not

2756
02:24:27,440 --> 02:24:31,000
Speaker 5: a postseason player. Clearly not a postseason player.

2757
02:24:31,480 --> 02:24:32,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

2758
02:24:32,040 --> 02:24:34,400
Speaker 5: And you know they gave up a zillion things to

2759
02:24:34,440 --> 02:24:36,039
Speaker 5: get the guy, and you watch him and you're like,

2760
02:24:36,360 --> 02:24:38,040
Speaker 5: he really does look like a fish out of water

2761
02:24:38,080 --> 02:24:41,600
Speaker 5: out there. And Oka, see, Anthony, you everything fitsy. They're

2762
02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:45,160
Speaker 5: like they have like twelve guys outside of SGA. They

2763
02:24:45,160 --> 02:24:47,760
Speaker 5: almost seem like they're just interchangeable guys. All these guys

2764
02:24:47,800 --> 02:24:51,160
Speaker 5: come in, they're all good, they're all athletic, they're all

2765
02:24:51,360 --> 02:24:55,800
Speaker 5: like just pesky on defense. They're just so deep and good.

2766
02:24:56,160 --> 02:24:59,360
Speaker 5: It's just hard to beat this team four times. I

2767
02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:00,640
Speaker 5: don't think anyone I feel.

2768
02:25:01,240 --> 02:25:03,080
Speaker 4: I feel like, to your point, I'm going to use

2769
02:25:03,080 --> 02:25:06,039
Speaker 4: a dated eighties analogy for everyone listening, But I feel

2770
02:25:06,080 --> 02:25:08,959
Speaker 4: like if Optimist Prime ever joined Voltron, that's what you

2771
02:25:09,040 --> 02:25:10,920
Speaker 4: have with Okay, See, like the rest of them are

2772
02:25:10,959 --> 02:25:13,960
Speaker 4: all Voltron. They form one big robot that'll kick your ass,

2773
02:25:13,959 --> 02:25:16,640
Speaker 4: but they also have Optimist Prime and SGA, so like

2774
02:25:16,680 --> 02:25:19,480
Speaker 4: they add exactly the main transformer to Voltron and then

2775
02:25:19,520 --> 02:25:21,240
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you have a you know, there's

2776
02:25:21,280 --> 02:25:24,280
Speaker 4: their eighties a dated reference. Is there any is there

2777
02:25:24,280 --> 02:25:27,800
Speaker 4: any sneaky value? Thank you verybody. You know eighties cartoons

2778
02:25:27,800 --> 02:25:30,200
Speaker 4: for me always comes back to is there any sneaky

2779
02:25:30,280 --> 02:25:34,520
Speaker 4: value you can find in the Nick's Pacer series? Because

2780
02:25:34,520 --> 02:25:36,440
Speaker 4: we didn't go any props. There is there any anything

2781
02:25:36,440 --> 02:25:37,480
Speaker 4: that you like there?

2782
02:25:38,520 --> 02:25:41,119
Speaker 5: You know, it's fine, I haven't done my deep dive

2783
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:44,920
Speaker 5: on the prop shit. It's if you can find og

2784
02:25:45,080 --> 02:25:47,199
Speaker 5: on a newbie under two and a half assists, which

2785
02:25:47,200 --> 02:25:48,640
Speaker 5: I bet the first thing. Don't look, they're going to

2786
02:25:48,680 --> 02:25:50,840
Speaker 5: lower it for one. There, that definitely is value that

2787
02:25:50,879 --> 02:25:54,080
Speaker 5: goes under about almost three fourths of the time, and

2788
02:25:54,160 --> 02:25:56,320
Speaker 5: you don't have to go anywhere near that. I would

2789
02:25:56,320 --> 02:25:59,000
Speaker 5: like his under too an emphasis if you can find them.

2790
02:25:59,040 --> 02:26:01,080
Speaker 5: Not sure again, I haven't looked yet. I'm not sure

2791
02:26:01,080 --> 02:26:03,760
Speaker 5: if that will be available. But look that series again.

2792
02:26:04,040 --> 02:26:08,120
Speaker 5: Uh we blow that game. It's funny watching Game two

2793
02:26:08,200 --> 02:26:10,640
Speaker 5: was almost the exact opposite Game one. Guys, right, they

2794
02:26:10,680 --> 02:26:13,320
Speaker 5: worked up like ken late and it became a one

2795
02:26:13,320 --> 02:26:15,560
Speaker 5: point game, and I'm thinking myself, this would just be

2796
02:26:15,600 --> 02:26:17,600
Speaker 5: the craziest thing ever if both teams won a game

2797
02:26:17,680 --> 02:26:20,600
Speaker 5: like that. But I always say in the postseason, you

2798
02:26:20,840 --> 02:26:22,760
Speaker 5: that's when you have to either you know, it's a

2799
02:26:22,800 --> 02:26:24,400
Speaker 5: do or die thing and you don't want to get

2800
02:26:24,480 --> 02:26:27,800
Speaker 5: unlucky in the postseason. And the Knicks blowing a fourteen

2801
02:26:27,840 --> 02:26:29,400
Speaker 5: point lead with two and a half minutes to go,

2802
02:26:30,000 --> 02:26:31,760
Speaker 5: it never happened before in the history of the sport.

2803
02:26:32,720 --> 02:26:34,440
Speaker 5: It's gonna be tough for them to overcome it. It's gonna

2804
02:26:34,440 --> 02:26:36,000
Speaker 5: be really hard for that twin four or five.

2805
02:26:36,080 --> 02:26:41,440
Speaker 3: But we'll see anything in the In the hockey tonight,

2806
02:26:41,520 --> 02:26:44,520
Speaker 3: we saw the dominance of Florida again.

2807
02:26:45,240 --> 02:26:45,920
Speaker 2: Carolina.

2808
02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:50,480
Speaker 3: You said something yesterday, I finc he's a big hockey guy. Yeah,

2809
02:26:50,480 --> 02:26:53,000
Speaker 3: if you were talking to your buddy who was talking

2810
02:26:53,000 --> 02:26:56,520
Speaker 3: about the Florida match up and how Carolina just can't

2811
02:26:56,520 --> 02:26:58,439
Speaker 3: match up there, like playing in a straight.

2812
02:26:58,240 --> 02:27:01,440
Speaker 5: Jacket, Yeah, I haven't. Funny who was like, knows more

2813
02:27:01,480 --> 02:27:03,800
Speaker 5: about hockey than like anyone I know. And he and

2814
02:27:03,879 --> 02:27:05,600
Speaker 5: he was telling me because I was like, oh, you know,

2815
02:27:06,560 --> 02:27:08,199
Speaker 5: kind of think this should be a really good series.

2816
02:27:08,240 --> 02:27:10,960
Speaker 5: He's like he's like no, because he was he's rooting

2817
02:27:10,959 --> 02:27:13,039
Speaker 5: for kid, he's a big Carolina fan, and he's like

2818
02:27:13,600 --> 02:27:15,560
Speaker 5: he goes, no, he goes this is actually the worst

2819
02:27:15,560 --> 02:27:18,080
Speaker 5: matchup for Carolina. He goes, They're going to really struggle

2820
02:27:18,080 --> 02:27:20,199
Speaker 5: to score here, and he goes through all these technical

2821
02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:22,879
Speaker 5: breakdowns with me. I'm not a hockey the hats like

2822
02:27:22,959 --> 02:27:25,120
Speaker 5: he is. But he was telling me all these reasons

2823
02:27:25,160 --> 02:27:27,520
Speaker 5: why he thought that this was just the worst possible

2824
02:27:27,600 --> 02:27:30,600
Speaker 5: matchup for the Hurricanes. And what's crazy, Anthony. I know,

2825
02:27:30,680 --> 02:27:32,720
Speaker 5: I mentioned she the other day. The Hurricanes are now

2826
02:27:32,720 --> 02:27:40,800
Speaker 5: as I think it's fifteen straight conference final games, fortunate, coageous, possible, No,

2827
02:27:40,879 --> 02:27:43,760
Speaker 5: it's interesting. Anty. All that being said, all that being said,

2828
02:27:44,280 --> 02:27:46,720
Speaker 5: I was looking at being the sick person that I

2829
02:27:46,760 --> 02:27:50,000
Speaker 5: have a betting Carolina getting a huge price in game

2830
02:27:50,000 --> 02:27:52,920
Speaker 5: THREATM like, okay, they got you couldn't get more dominated

2831
02:27:52,920 --> 02:27:55,520
Speaker 5: in the first two games than they were. Florida was

2832
02:27:55,560 --> 02:27:58,800
Speaker 5: favored to win the first two. I mean, no one,

2833
02:27:59,160 --> 02:28:01,480
Speaker 5: no one is going to Caroline this game. I also,

2834
02:28:01,480 --> 02:28:03,480
Speaker 5: when you get close to two to one odds, this

2835
02:28:03,560 --> 02:28:06,800
Speaker 5: is the price in the game is reasonable. I can't.

2836
02:28:07,240 --> 02:28:09,440
Speaker 5: I can't do it. They're about a dollar forty five

2837
02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:13,120
Speaker 5: dollars fifty favorite for Florida. I can't. I have no interest.

2838
02:28:13,280 --> 02:28:15,840
Speaker 3: You know why is that that makes no sense to me,

2839
02:28:16,040 --> 02:28:16,600
Speaker 3: is that.

2840
02:28:16,520 --> 02:28:21,600
Speaker 5: Like we well, Anthony, essentially, like I do you remember, Anthony,

2841
02:28:21,720 --> 02:28:24,039
Speaker 5: when I'll give you a good example, remember two years

2842
02:28:24,080 --> 02:28:26,760
Speaker 5: ago with the Eagles not just well you're sorry, my

2843
02:28:26,840 --> 02:28:29,359
Speaker 5: dogs are going crazy? Remember two years ago when Eagles

2844
02:28:29,760 --> 02:28:32,039
Speaker 5: lost like those five or six games in a row

2845
02:28:32,480 --> 02:28:36,680
Speaker 5: and they still were barely affecting the line at all,

2846
02:28:36,800 --> 02:28:39,360
Speaker 5: as if because maybe your power like at a certain point,

2847
02:28:39,680 --> 02:28:42,160
Speaker 5: and if you lose like one game, it maybe gets

2848
02:28:42,160 --> 02:28:44,000
Speaker 5: stinged a little and then a little, but it's not

2849
02:28:44,080 --> 02:28:46,640
Speaker 5: like it's like losing weight. You can't lose like forty

2850
02:28:46,640 --> 02:28:49,120
Speaker 5: pounds in a day. They're just not going to affect

2851
02:28:49,160 --> 02:28:51,320
Speaker 5: the power rating. Anthony. You're a matchup guy, and maybe

2852
02:28:51,320 --> 02:28:55,000
Speaker 5: they don't adjust it enough, right, maybe they don't, but

2853
02:28:55,040 --> 02:28:56,879
Speaker 5: they just don't adjust the powering that much off of

2854
02:28:56,879 --> 02:28:57,640
Speaker 5: one or two games.

2855
02:28:58,840 --> 02:28:59,840
Speaker 2: What do you got baseball?

2856
02:29:00,920 --> 02:29:02,560
Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting, And these couple of things I

2857
02:29:02,560 --> 02:29:08,680
Speaker 5: think have some value. Phillies against the Oak or Las

2858
02:29:08,760 --> 02:29:11,800
Speaker 5: Vegas Aes or whatever they are. I love under five

2859
02:29:11,879 --> 02:29:15,000
Speaker 5: runs in the five inning line. Christopher Sanchez has been

2860
02:29:15,040 --> 02:29:19,959
Speaker 5: great all year. Jeffrey Springs has been dominant this month.

2861
02:29:20,000 --> 02:29:24,879
Speaker 5: Twenty five innings, fifteen hits, four runs allowed both teams bullpens.

2862
02:29:25,280 --> 02:29:27,160
Speaker 5: Don't even have a word for both teams bullpens, but

2863
02:29:27,480 --> 02:29:29,760
Speaker 5: know Bueno. I'll leave it at that. But I really

2864
02:29:29,760 --> 02:29:31,560
Speaker 5: do like under five runs. I think this game should

2865
02:29:31,560 --> 02:29:33,879
Speaker 5: have been totaled four. I think it's one full runoff.

2866
02:29:34,480 --> 02:29:36,440
Speaker 5: I think it'll be a low scoring game through five innings.

2867
02:29:36,480 --> 02:29:39,119
Speaker 5: Two really good pitchers going against each other, like under

2868
02:29:39,160 --> 02:29:42,240
Speaker 5: five in that game. And then Merril Kelly has been

2869
02:29:42,560 --> 02:29:44,000
Speaker 5: absolutely it.

2870
02:29:44,360 --> 02:29:44,800
Speaker 4: Listen to this.

2871
02:29:45,560 --> 02:29:47,640
Speaker 5: If you look at his stats, the stats are incredible,

2872
02:29:48,080 --> 02:29:50,400
Speaker 5: but he had one game and the second start of

2873
02:29:50,400 --> 02:29:52,640
Speaker 5: the year, we gave up nine runs and like thirteen

2874
02:29:52,720 --> 02:29:55,880
Speaker 5: hits in one inning or two innings. I backed that out.

2875
02:29:55,920 --> 02:29:57,680
Speaker 5: If you took out that one start is the ra

2876
02:29:57,920 --> 02:30:01,600
Speaker 5: sub two and his with his A point eight, he's

2877
02:30:01,600 --> 02:30:03,960
Speaker 5: basically been the best picture in the National League stat

2878
02:30:04,000 --> 02:30:08,120
Speaker 5: wise without that one start. But I love him under

2879
02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:12,360
Speaker 5: two and a half runs. He's eighting two to that

2880
02:30:12,440 --> 02:30:15,720
Speaker 5: under uh he's pitching great. I have total faith in

2881
02:30:15,760 --> 02:30:19,160
Speaker 5: how he's going against the Okay Cardinals lineup. But I

2882
02:30:19,200 --> 02:30:21,320
Speaker 5: really do like Merle Kelly. I also like I'm over

2883
02:30:21,400 --> 02:30:23,880
Speaker 5: seventeen and a half outs as well. I think both

2884
02:30:23,920 --> 02:30:26,240
Speaker 5: those are really good, bets. I expecting that success today.

2885
02:30:26,920 --> 02:30:30,440
Speaker 3: All right, there you go, good stuff, brain listen, you

2886
02:30:30,600 --> 02:30:31,880
Speaker 3: enjoy your holiday weekend.

2887
02:30:31,879 --> 02:30:34,240
Speaker 5: All right, brother Pittsy, you got to let me know

2888
02:30:34,280 --> 02:30:36,879
Speaker 5: when you're visiting, when you're coming to Florida. I'm busney

2889
02:30:36,920 --> 02:30:37,640
Speaker 5: at that tiki bar.

2890
02:30:38,640 --> 02:30:40,039
Speaker 4: Oh, let's call, I'm in.

2891
02:30:41,959 --> 02:30:42,440
Speaker 2: Be good, guys.

2892
02:30:42,440 --> 02:30:46,720
Speaker 3: I appreciate you both than I can hear Fizzy's voice. Man,

2893
02:30:47,200 --> 02:30:50,039
Speaker 3: I just love toads of his standing and drinking my hand.

2894
02:30:50,600 --> 02:30:54,200
Speaker 3: There it is, Fellas Memorial Day week and back to

2895
02:30:54,240 --> 02:31:01,720
Speaker 3: wrapping up next Fellas. Oh he cracks me off. Jason Fitzi,

2896
02:31:01,720 --> 02:31:07,920
Speaker 3: Anthony Gargatto, Mighty Mark is the greatest. Hey, thanks to

2897
02:31:07,959 --> 02:31:11,520
Speaker 3: our fine production team of Mighty Mark, our sound engineer

2898
02:31:12,080 --> 02:31:17,200
Speaker 3: and Brianna who's the great producer. So we love them

2899
02:31:17,240 --> 02:31:20,160
Speaker 3: and we cherish them every week. So thank you for

2900
02:31:20,200 --> 02:31:23,560
Speaker 3: another great job. Don't forget. For the best pregame show

2901
02:31:23,560 --> 02:31:26,160
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2902
02:31:26,320 --> 02:31:30,160
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2903
02:31:30,200 --> 02:31:33,360
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2904
02:31:33,480 --> 02:31:36,800
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2905
02:31:36,879 --> 02:31:40,240
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2906
02:31:40,360 --> 02:31:43,120
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2907
02:31:44,160 --> 02:31:47,120
Speaker 3: My only she gritted goes by too fans fitsy, And

2908
02:31:47,280 --> 02:31:51,520
Speaker 3: my only disappointment today was we never got to win

2909
02:31:51,640 --> 02:31:56,320
Speaker 3: totals and I hate rushing through them.

2910
02:31:56,680 --> 02:32:01,480
Speaker 4: The glorious news is we've got time before the season starts,

2911
02:32:02,240 --> 02:32:04,880
Speaker 4: there is no doubt about it. But I do agree

2912
02:32:04,920 --> 02:32:07,480
Speaker 4: with you because win totals are sort of the first

2913
02:32:07,520 --> 02:32:11,520
Speaker 4: statement of how the world precedes your team, after the

2914
02:32:11,600 --> 02:32:12,800
Speaker 4: draft and after everything else.

2915
02:32:12,840 --> 02:32:15,240
Speaker 3: So it's always schedule, right, because you always need to

2916
02:32:15,240 --> 02:32:17,959
Speaker 3: have to really do the win totals properly. You need

2917
02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:21,360
Speaker 3: to have a schedule kind of rolls out.

2918
02:32:22,440 --> 02:32:27,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's it's always funny to me because inevitably

2919
02:32:27,879 --> 02:32:30,400
Speaker 4: fans will think that you suck for not being as

2920
02:32:30,520 --> 02:32:32,840
Speaker 4: energetic on your team as you should be. But also,

2921
02:32:33,680 --> 02:32:35,959
Speaker 4: like what's funny to me is the number of fans

2922
02:32:36,480 --> 02:32:39,800
Speaker 4: that don't realize that their team is actually the easy win.

2923
02:32:40,360 --> 02:32:44,360
Speaker 4: Like right now, look as a Raiders fan, you know

2924
02:32:44,480 --> 02:32:46,600
Speaker 4: Raiders fans, and my mentions all the time, we're gonna

2925
02:32:46,640 --> 02:32:48,520
Speaker 4: win eight, nine, ten games, is we're gonna win eleven

2926
02:32:48,560 --> 02:32:51,120
Speaker 4: games to go to the playoffs. Okay, just acknowledge that

2927
02:32:51,240 --> 02:32:53,800
Speaker 4: every team, every other fan base, when they look at

2928
02:32:53,840 --> 02:32:56,000
Speaker 4: the schedule, sees the Raiders and they're like, a easy win.

2929
02:32:56,280 --> 02:32:58,560
Speaker 4: Titans fans are like, oh, we're gonna have a big

2930
02:32:58,600 --> 02:33:02,320
Speaker 4: researchence this. Yet Patriots, the Patriots are favored in eleven games.

2931
02:33:02,600 --> 02:33:06,160
Speaker 4: So I've already got Patriots fans chirping in my ear

2932
02:33:06,240 --> 02:33:09,040
Speaker 4: in Connecticut. That's like, no, no, no, we're back, We're back.

2933
02:33:09,440 --> 02:33:13,000
Speaker 4: I just caution everybody a little bit, like, you know, wait,

2934
02:33:13,080 --> 02:33:15,400
Speaker 4: just wait, give it a month, get a month into

2935
02:33:15,400 --> 02:33:18,320
Speaker 4: the season before you talk too much smack. Because if

2936
02:33:18,360 --> 02:33:20,279
Speaker 4: you thought it was bad for the Knicks to celebrate

2937
02:33:20,320 --> 02:33:22,760
Speaker 4: this way after beating Boston when they still have plenty

2938
02:33:22,800 --> 02:33:24,680
Speaker 4: of work to do in the playoffs, it's even worse

2939
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:27,640
Speaker 4: when you're celebrating in June, telling everybody they're idiots, and

2940
02:33:27,640 --> 02:33:29,560
Speaker 4: then your team turns out to suck at the beginning

2941
02:33:29,600 --> 02:33:33,920
Speaker 4: of September. It's just just if everybody's wrong and your

2942
02:33:33,920 --> 02:33:36,000
Speaker 4: team's gonna be epic, you have plenty of time to

2943
02:33:36,040 --> 02:33:38,360
Speaker 4: talk your talk. If you're wrong and your team's gonna

2944
02:33:38,360 --> 02:33:40,520
Speaker 4: suck yet again, it's just gonna be thrown in your

2945
02:33:40,560 --> 02:33:42,360
Speaker 4: face every week. So you know, I just just wait

2946
02:33:42,400 --> 02:33:44,280
Speaker 4: to talk your talk. That's all I ask people to do.

2947
02:33:46,720 --> 02:33:53,080
Speaker 3: So that's funny, you're right. Uh So I got to

2948
02:33:53,080 --> 02:33:56,960
Speaker 3: ask you a question. I got this conversation with during

2949
02:33:56,959 --> 02:33:59,200
Speaker 3: the week on my show with Mike Carafalo from the

2950
02:33:59,280 --> 02:34:04,440
Speaker 3: NFL Network. We were talking about this schedule invariably going

2951
02:34:04,480 --> 02:34:08,040
Speaker 3: to eighteen games, and his point was when does it stop?

2952
02:34:08,920 --> 02:34:11,400
Speaker 3: You know, you know they're going to at some point

2953
02:34:11,720 --> 02:34:17,120
Speaker 3: go to twenty. And then he's like, already there's a

2954
02:34:17,280 --> 02:34:23,080
Speaker 3: lull in the middle of the season. And I was

2955
02:34:23,160 --> 02:34:26,960
Speaker 3: thinking about this, and I go, I don't think so,

2956
02:34:27,200 --> 02:34:30,080
Speaker 3: I don't feel any lull. Do you feel any lull

2957
02:34:30,800 --> 02:34:33,000
Speaker 3: during the season, Like, forget about twenty and they're going

2958
02:34:33,040 --> 02:34:37,240
Speaker 3: to go to eighteen. You know, I don't think this

2959
02:34:37,440 --> 02:34:39,360
Speaker 3: is a case where I get a lull. I don't

2960
02:34:39,400 --> 02:34:40,279
Speaker 3: feel any lull.

2961
02:34:41,400 --> 02:34:43,920
Speaker 4: No, tell me that Garafalo has been working in the

2962
02:34:43,920 --> 02:34:48,560
Speaker 4: business too long. That's it, Like it's right, when does

2963
02:34:48,600 --> 02:34:49,160
Speaker 4: it stop?

2964
02:34:49,320 --> 02:34:49,400
Speaker 2: Like?

2965
02:34:49,680 --> 02:34:54,439
Speaker 4: So, I remember I was sitting Okay, so the suburb Hendersonville,

2966
02:34:54,440 --> 02:34:56,360
Speaker 4: it's just north of Nashville, and I was sitting in

2967
02:34:56,400 --> 02:34:58,520
Speaker 4: Hendersonville a long time ago, a couple of years ago,

2968
02:34:58,959 --> 02:35:01,800
Speaker 4: and we were sitting there chatting. They were talking about

2969
02:35:01,840 --> 02:35:05,360
Speaker 4: the fact that yet another Mexican restaurant was opening up

2970
02:35:05,400 --> 02:35:06,959
Speaker 4: in town, and one of my buddies was like, there's

2971
02:35:06,959 --> 02:35:09,080
Speaker 4: like eighteen Mexican places in town. Why do we need

2972
02:35:09,080 --> 02:35:11,800
Speaker 4: another Mexican restaurant? And I literally looked at him and

2973
02:35:11,840 --> 02:35:14,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, it's a Friday and we're waiting forty

2974
02:35:14,680 --> 02:35:17,840
Speaker 4: five minutes to get into this one. They'll stop building

2975
02:35:17,879 --> 02:35:21,640
Speaker 4: them when people stop waiting an hour to get into them.

2976
02:35:21,680 --> 02:35:24,080
Speaker 4: Like the supply and demand is a real thing. So

2977
02:35:24,400 --> 02:35:26,880
Speaker 4: I would challenge anyone that says, well, when does it

2978
02:35:26,920 --> 02:35:30,320
Speaker 4: stop on the growth of NFL games when numbers decline

2979
02:35:30,320 --> 02:35:33,120
Speaker 4: in the ratings, which they don't like, there isn't a

2980
02:35:33,200 --> 02:35:35,039
Speaker 4: lull for most fans. You want to give me twenty

2981
02:35:35,120 --> 02:35:37,879
Speaker 4: Raiders games, I'm gonna watch twenty Raiders I'm gonna watch

2982
02:35:37,879 --> 02:35:40,599
Speaker 4: every single one of them, like like I'm a slobbering

2983
02:35:40,640 --> 02:35:42,720
Speaker 4: dog waiting for my treat at the end of a day.

2984
02:35:42,800 --> 02:35:45,640
Speaker 4: Like it's just they're gonna keep giving games because I'm

2985
02:35:45,640 --> 02:35:46,760
Speaker 4: gonna keep watching them.

2986
02:35:47,000 --> 02:35:53,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Yes, is preach preach. Yes, I mean like

2987
02:35:53,360 --> 02:35:54,840
Speaker 2: this all I do. Oh there's a lull.

2988
02:35:55,040 --> 02:35:55,920
Speaker 4: What does that mean?

2989
02:35:56,240 --> 02:35:59,640
Speaker 2: How you quantify a lull? I don't know. I don't

2990
02:35:59,680 --> 02:36:01,200
Speaker 2: think fans fins.

2991
02:36:01,240 --> 02:36:05,000
Speaker 3: Coat's part of my routine, right, Like every Sunday, I

2992
02:36:05,040 --> 02:36:07,320
Speaker 3: watch my team, I watched the league, I play my

2993
02:36:07,360 --> 02:36:09,760
Speaker 3: fantasy football and I'm happy.

2994
02:36:10,200 --> 02:36:11,840
Speaker 2: That's it. It's pretty simple.

2995
02:36:13,280 --> 02:36:15,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, And as long as we can gamble on it,

2996
02:36:15,480 --> 02:36:17,400
Speaker 4: play fantasy football on it, and then cheer on our

2997
02:36:17,400 --> 02:36:20,680
Speaker 4: favorite team wins and losers, they'll know when they've overexpanded

2998
02:36:20,720 --> 02:36:23,520
Speaker 4: because people eyeballs will go down and tell then, my god,

2999
02:36:23,520 --> 02:36:25,760
Speaker 4: they're gonna keep making money. We're gonna keep watching like

3000
02:36:25,840 --> 02:36:27,119
Speaker 4: we're the problem, not them.

3001
02:36:28,440 --> 02:36:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so with you.

3002
02:36:30,840 --> 02:36:34,080
Speaker 3: Like you know, you got these old sports NBA and

3003
02:36:34,280 --> 02:36:38,560
Speaker 3: MLB and they're long seasons and all, but the money's

3004
02:36:38,560 --> 02:36:43,119
Speaker 3: still there so they don't really have issues, let alone

3005
02:36:43,160 --> 02:36:44,039
Speaker 3: the NFL.

3006
02:36:44,400 --> 02:36:45,560
Speaker 2: I mean stop.

3007
02:36:47,879 --> 02:36:49,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I watch it all, You'll watch it all, and

3008
02:36:49,879 --> 02:36:52,000
Speaker 4: we'll talk about it on every show every single day.

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02:36:52,080 --> 02:36:53,160
Speaker 4: That's the beautiful part of it.

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02:36:53,840 --> 02:36:54,800
Speaker 2: That's it. Man.

3011
02:36:55,080 --> 02:36:58,360
Speaker 3: Well, my brother, get warm. I want you to relax.

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02:36:58,440 --> 02:37:02,320
Speaker 3: Seven great weekend. We love you, guys. See you next Saturday,