1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hello, delicious friends, and welcome to Who Did What Now? 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: The history podcast That's not your history class with me 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: your host Katie Charlwood, history harlote and reader of books. 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: So remember last week when I was saying about the 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: different ways that people perceive me, like if they've seen 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: me for the first time doing this Nazi concentration camp series, 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: or if they've known me for a long time or 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: watched me for a long time, And the people who 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: have seen me for the first time are like, you're 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: so animated and perky and blah blah blah blah blah. 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: And anyone who's watched me for any length of time, 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: or anyone who knows me personally is like, girl, are 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: you okay? Because like we can see that this has 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: really taken out on you. We see how withdrawn well yeah, 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: how like muted you are, how lower your tone is, 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: like how this is affecting you, Like to the point 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: my own mother phoned me because she was genuinely concerned 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: for my mental well being, Like she was worried that 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: this whole Nazi concentration camp series was taking a toll 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: on my mental health. Now here's the thing, there's no 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: way to look at this information. There's no way to 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: go through it and to write it out and research 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: it and look at, you know, the photographic evidence and 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: listen to the survivor testimonies. There is no way to 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: go through all of that and not be affected. There's 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: no way. You have to be devoid of emotion and empathy. 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: And because I studied this for six now seven ish years, 28 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: I have actively avoided going deep into it because I 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: know how bad it is. But there were so many 30 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: people out there who don't know like most parts of this, 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: Like I mean, it's a huge, huge topic. 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: It's very deep, it's very it's multi layered, and there 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: are spider grams upon spider grams, and there's no way 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: to cover it all without like. 35 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: Years years of discussing it. But I am doing my 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: best to provide context in a full, comprehensive understanding of 37 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: what is happening. And that's what I'm really doing with 38 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: those videos on social media. And there were so many 39 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: people out there who don't understand what led to the Holocaust, 40 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: the build up. They don't understand, you know, how it grew, 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: They don't understand how the network existed, And the only 42 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: thing they know is six million, two wage people were murdered. 43 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: That's the only information they have, and that is the 44 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: only constant that I've managed to find apart from within 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: the Holocaust denials, who are their own disgusting little bucket 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: of fish. Holocaust denials are really simple to shut down 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: at the best at times, because how can you have 48 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: less cognitive skills than a ham sandwich? Because how can 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: you believe that every single nation in the world, or 50 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: at least almost every single nation in the world, agrees 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: that the whole Holocaust is a factual, historical event. Nobody 52 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: can agree on anything, right, How can you think it's 53 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: a lie and they all agreed because nobody can agree, 54 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: Like what came first the chicken or the egg, is 55 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: a jaffagg a cake or a biscuit, No, nobody can 56 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: agree on it. And you think everybody did. No, No, 57 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous and like, but yeah, they are their own thing. 58 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: But something I've noticed happened, especially in recent days, is 59 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: the accusation that talking about non Jewish victims of the Holocaust, 60 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: or at least other victims of the Holocaust, is somehow 61 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: anti Semitic, Like I was literally called a Holocaust hijacker, 62 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: for talking about disabled people being the first group to 63 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: be murdered en mass by the nazis an action t 64 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: for it, Like what in the able is a motherfucker? 65 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: Like if you're watching my entire concentration camp series and 66 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: your first thought is, wow, that's anti semitic, I genuinely 67 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: believe that you need a medical intervention, like you need 68 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: a psychological evaluation because something is not right there. But anyway, 69 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: not only am I like dealing with this horrific subject matter, 70 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: but I'm being attacked from all angles. And then of 71 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: course there's always some arsehole who's like complaining about how 72 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: I dress or my weight or some other nonsense, and 73 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: it's like, can you please shut the fuck up? Okay, plays, 74 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: And honestly, I just I'm tired, I'm exhausted, and this 75 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: is fucking's stressful. But here's the thing. A lot of 76 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: this information isn't accessible. It's not easy to find, not necessarily, 77 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: and unless you know what you're looking for, you might 78 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: not be able to find it. And so there are 79 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: a lot of barriers to education anyway. And half the 80 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: stuff I get is from like archives, scholarly articles, journals, 81 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: other languages, you know, propaganda, misinformation and reading through that 82 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: as well. That's what I do, you know. And again, 83 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: so there's so much barriers to this information into education. 84 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: If not me telling you this, if not me finding 85 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 1: a way to share this with you, then who Nearly 86 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: every history documentary that is out there is about fucking 87 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: tanks and the looftwaffa, you know what I mean. It's 88 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 1: about those things, not about people, not about the camp 89 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: systems themselves, not really, not ever. And I know this 90 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: is taken at all, but I promised, I promised that 91 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: I would continue doing this until the end of August, 92 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna fucking do it and I'm not going 93 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: to stop. And anyway, I know what you're thinking, you're 94 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: Kerry Carey. It's been almost six minutes, quite ol jibbled 95 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: jabb but in fact me, in fact you, I will. 96 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: But first we've going to get our source on. Sources 97 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: are Forgotten Trials of the Holocaust by Michael J. Basler, 98 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: The Invented and the Real Historiographical Notes on Trindler's List 99 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: by Michael Wilt and Pamela Selvin. Adjusting to Genocide, The 100 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: Techniques of Neutralization and the Holocaust by Alexander Alvarez. The 101 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: Economic Puzzle of Oscar Schindler, Amenity, Potential and Rational Choice 102 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: by Ray Jones. Trial of hobstomfora Ammon Leopold Gout from 103 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: Law Reports of Trials of War Criminals the United Nations 104 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: War Crime Commissions, Volume seven. Prosecution of Nazi Crimes in 105 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: Poland nineteen thirty nine, two thousand and four by Andre Zulavinsky. 106 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: Death is a Master from Vienna. The Life and Dates 107 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: of Ammon Leopold Guts by Johann Saxelena s S Service 108 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: Record of Ammon Gouts by National Archives and Records Administration, 109 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: Guaco Bojeov Men Camp, The Encyclopoedia of Camps and Ghettos 110 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty three nineteen forty five, The United States Holocaust 111 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: Memorial Museum, Schindler's Legacy, True Stories of the List Survivors 112 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: by Eleanor Burger, Amon Gout, The Hunter of Concentration Camp 113 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: Poajeov by bartoje Velinski, The Grakhov Gueto and the Pojov 114 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: Camp Remembered by Malvin Akraf. And of course we have 115 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: resources from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, the Holocaust Encyclopedia, 116 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: and the Holocaust, historical society are usidin comfortably good, then 117 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: let's begin. The man who would go on to earn 118 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: the Moniker, the Butcher of Poajov was born Amon Leopold 119 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: Gout on the eleventh of December nineteen o eight in Vienna, 120 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: which at the time was the capital of the Austrian 121 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: Hungarian Empire. He was born to Amon Franz Gout, the 122 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: owner of a publishing house, and Berta spend Good now Amon. 123 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: He was the only child of the upper middle class 124 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: couple and was expected to live quite a comfortable life, 125 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: take over the family business and continue printing military books, 126 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: religious pamphlets and postcards. He attended a Catholic school and 127 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: then went on to an agricultural college of all things, 128 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: but this was not to be. He only lasted there 129 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: a couple of months. So like by the time he 130 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: is a teenager, right by the time he's starting this college, 131 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: his country has changed. So the Austria Hungarian Empire, it 132 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: was the second largest country in Europe. It had a 133 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: dual monarchy, and it was huge, right, and it was 134 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: very expansive, to the point that if you have seen 135 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: the sound of music and you think to yourself Jaz 136 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: How was Captain von Trapp a navy captain in a 137 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: landlocked country, And that is a fair question if you 138 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: don't know the history of Austria. So initially it was 139 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: a massive area and it was disassembled after the First 140 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: World War, so there was a coast, right, so it 141 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: covered like Slovenia, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Croatia, Austria, Hungary, 142 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: Bosnia and Herzegovna, and also parts of Romania, Poland, Ukraine, 143 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: Serbia and Italy. So there was a law of space 144 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: that was covered by you know, this empire. But of 145 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: course afterwards involvement in the First World War, things split up, 146 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: right and for good. This would have happened during his 147 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: sort of childhood adolescence, like the country would have changed 148 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: as he grew up in it. And at the age 149 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: of seventeen, after he left the agricultural college which was 150 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: like near the Czech border, if I'm not mistaken, So 151 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: he ends up joining a Nazi youth group and he's 152 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: with him for two years before he joins the Hymn 153 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: there the Home Guard, right, so this is a nationalist 154 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: paramilitary group, and he ends up being a member for 155 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: three years and so this particular Home Guard it was, 156 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, a rapidly anti Semitic branch, 157 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: and he was he was a membership all of it, 158 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,239 Speaker 1: but he dropped that in order to join the Austrian 159 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: brand of the Nazi Party. So after the Wall Street 160 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: crash happened, the Nazi Party grew exponentially in Germany. It 161 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: went from like five percent of the votes to I 162 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: think like forty five. It might not be forty five exactly, 163 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: but it just it jumped and it was massive. And 164 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: the Austrian branch decided that it was going to try 165 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: and get other fascist groups to merge to like sort 166 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: of build this momentum, but it didn't happen, and so 167 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: then the Nazis say, well, you can either be part 168 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: of us or not part of us, Like your loyalty 169 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: has to be to us alone. And so that's how 170 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: they basically set it up. And so in September nineteen 171 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: thirty he was assigned the party membership number five one 172 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: zero seven six four. So he applies in nineteen thirty 173 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: to like become like an SS, but he doesn't actually 174 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: get anything for another two years because it's not until 175 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: he's twenty four that he actually manages to join the 176 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: show staff and gets his SS number four three seven 177 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: six three. So when Good actually joins the Nazis, this 178 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: is before Hitler's rise to power, and because of this, 179 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: he's known as an alta Kampha or an old fighter, 180 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: which we'll get back to all that in a wee second. 181 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: But growing up Good, he's basically isolated. Right. He was 182 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: raised by his aunt mainly, which was not unusual for 183 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: the time. What was unusual was that the reason for 184 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: this was because his father was traveling as a publishing 185 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: mogul and his mother was running the business in Vienna 186 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: in his absence. So he's being raised by his aunt. 187 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: He's an only child. He apparently doesn't have any friends. 188 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: Whom's to say why that is? Here's the thing. Here's 189 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: the thing he talks about, this being being like a 190 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: big factor in his life that he tells us to 191 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: his mistress, right, and he here's the thing. Being an 192 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: only child might be lonely, but if your response to 193 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: loneliness is to become a Nazi, well you've got some 194 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: huge fucking issues, okay, Like, and he would like tell 195 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: his mistress as well that he joined the Nazi Party 196 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: to oppose his parents' bourgeois life, like all right, I 197 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: either rebel without a clue, make her just a teenager 198 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: with an attitude problem and a desperate need for attention 199 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: and belonging, like he wants power. Like his parents tried 200 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: to get him to go to like proper schooling and 201 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: to get proper educated, and he's like, no, I'm going 202 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: to go to an agricultural college. And it's like, how's 203 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: that going to help you become a publish and mogul. 204 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: He's like, no, no bis for me. So he's working 205 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: his way up the Nazi ladder. He starts as a 206 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: member of the Essay as the brown Shirts, and then 207 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: he moves into the SS. So he was promoted in 208 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty three to zug Fuel of the fifty second 209 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: SS standard. Then he was promoted again to says Chaft. 210 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: So other Nazis they thought he was swell, but the 211 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: authorities were not happy with him doing Nazi shit like, 212 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, purchasing bombs for Nazi activities. See Austria had 213 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: declared the Nazi Party illegal on the nineteenth of June 214 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty three, and so the party just says like 215 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: fuck this for a game of soldiers and sets up 216 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: shop in Munich. It's like tu Bavaria, right and good 217 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: he would smuggle weapons and radios and like act as 218 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: a mule, sorry, act as a carrier for THEESS and 219 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: so he gets arrested in October, but he's released two 220 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: months later for lack of evidence. See the Austrian government 221 00:14:52,000 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: under Chancellor Eenkobert. Dolphus was incredibly anti Nazi, and after 222 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: they attempted Nazi uprising in February nineteen thirty four, Dolphus 223 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: established a new constitution that basically gave him ultimate Pillar, 224 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: although he didn't actually live long enough to do anything 225 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: with that power, because he was assassinated in a failed 226 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: Nazi coup on the twenty fifth of July that year, 227 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: so like a couple months later, and most historians agree 228 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: that Good played a part in at least planning the assassination. 229 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: He was again detained, but managed to evade execution somehow 230 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: and flee to Germany, where, well, I'm glad you asked, 231 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: because I'll tell you to the SS training facility in Dachau. Yes, 232 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: next to the Darkau concentration camp, where he tried to 233 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: advance but ended up leaving because he butted heads with 234 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: his Obivia, Alfred Beigler. So there he is effectively banished 235 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: from his home country because you know, he joined an 236 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: evil fascist group and tried to do evil fascist things 237 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: and then did not get on with his evil fascist 238 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: boss because they had different evil fascist ideas. So what 239 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: does it do, well, what any man standing on his 240 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: own two feet would do. He goes to work for 241 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: his parents publishing business in Munich and he gets married 242 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: due to pressure from his parents because they're like, what 243 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: are you doing? Get married, get a job, and so 244 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: he marries Olga Janoshik, and shocker, they get divorced after 245 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: only a few months of marriage. Color me surprised. Meanwhile, 246 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: the Austrian government Undercurt Soshnik maintains the anti Nazi stance 247 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: and Austrian Nazi members they would just decline like those 248 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: numbers were dropping. But there was a warm brewing on 249 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: the horizon. So it all changed after the Anschlus when 250 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: Germany goose stepped in and took over Austria. Now you'll 251 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: hear words pallied about like anext or occupied, like such 252 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: innocuous terms for invade and takeover. But before the Anschlus, 253 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: like before all that happened, like in there is just 254 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: the year before Gout had rejoined the Nazis, because he'd 255 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: left in what was at thirty four and he rejoined 256 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: in thirty seven. So he returns to being an SS 257 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: member and had even written to the Austrian Refugee Society 258 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: and requested that his Nazi Party membership be transferred from 259 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: Austria to Munich. But it was after the Anschlus that 260 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,239 Speaker 1: Gout could actually return back to Austria without fear of 261 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: being arrested, you know, for doing Nazi shit. And so 262 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: here he was at twenty eight years old and wanting 263 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: to advance in his career and just be a good Nazi. 264 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: And what is the core belief Like, what is the 265 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: core of the Nazi belief system? If you guessed eugenics, 266 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: you guessed right. See. Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS, 267 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: issued a directive that all SS men between the ages 268 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: of twenty five and thirty were to get married and 269 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: start having children, well, their wives were to start having children. 270 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: This was to ensure that they would produce a generation 271 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: of ideal German citizens. Mass reproduction and replacements to create 272 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: the so called Aryan race, because like the Nazis, I 273 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: mean they co opted the term Aryan and we're like 274 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: blonde haired, blue eyed, physically fit. Ooh, definitely are the 275 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: ultimate humans. Like we're talking eugenics, we're talking phrenology, for 276 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: God's sakes, Like what phrenology? Life's bad when phrenology comes 277 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: into the conversation. So he meets a twenty three year 278 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: old Anna Geiger at a motorcycle race, and after making 279 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: her spin and a cup, he's like, yeah, you'll do, 280 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: and decides to marry her. Like alless men and their 281 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: perspective brides, the couple had to pass a set of 282 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: stringent physical tests and interviews admitted by the ESSs to 283 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 1: determine the suitability of the marriage. So like they had 284 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: to answer all these questions about being a good German 285 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: and being a good Nazi, and they also had to 286 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: do all these like physical tests to ensure that they 287 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: were in peak physical fitness. They wanted to make sure 288 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: that they were strong and healthy so that they could 289 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: procreate more little Nazis. So they were wed in an 290 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: SS civil ceremony on the twenty thirty of October nineteen 291 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: thirty eight, and They would go on to have three 292 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: children in quick succession. Peter was born in nineteen thirty 293 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: nine but died of diphtheria at seven months old. Verna 294 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: was born in nineteen forty and their daughter Engblg followed 295 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty one. So they had a permanent residence 296 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: in Vienna and Anna stayed there with the kids while 297 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: Gold would spend most of the war in Poland. So 298 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: back in Austria, like, he's quickly rising through the ranks 299 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: of the SS. He's promoted to antel STUMFNA in nineteen 300 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: forty one, and he had been drafted right into the Wehrmacht. 301 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: But well, that's the weird thing, right, he's drafted into 302 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: the vermach like the actual like army. But his SS 303 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: service record shows that he did not actively serve in 304 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: the vermach Like, there is no record of him serving 305 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: because of everything else he's doing, Like he's not doing 306 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: boots on the ground military stuff. No, Instead, he's an 307 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: ansad fiora and a financial officer in the Katovic office 308 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: for the Reich Commissioner for the Consolidation of German Nationhood. 309 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: Now that's the English version. There was a German version, 310 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: but I'm already struggling with my throat and so I'm 311 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: not putting myself through that particular one. Screw it, let's 312 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: give it a go. The rex Co meself Field, sophistical 313 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: Lusian Folkstone, Yeah, there we go, There we go. It 314 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: was responsible for the return and resettlement of the German diaspora, right, 315 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: that's what that is. It's basically trying to get German 316 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: people who live abroad back home, which is like, on 317 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: the face of it, it's like, oh, that sounds nice. 318 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: But unfortunately, in order to do that, what they had 319 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: to do was displace the people who were already living 320 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: there and anyone that they felt was alien or foreign 321 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: to the land that they believed was theirs. This included 322 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: moving people that they didn't feel belonged in those areas, 323 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, into camps, ghettos, or just straight up murdering them. Now, 324 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure we can all agree that those actions are 325 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: horrific and a terrible thing to do. Anyway, In nineteen 326 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: forty two, he joined Operation Ranad, which was a scheme 327 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: to murder Jewish people in German occupied Poland. In the summer, 328 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: he was transferred to Lublin, where he worked on or 329 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: do you know Klobotchnik himself the s is Briga de Fiola, 330 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: an Austrian Nazi charged with a senior role in the 331 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: construction and expanding of three death camps. Beljit's slowby ball 332 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: treblinga Now, due to the highly secretive nature of this position, 333 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: like there isn't a paper trail, like there are scratches 334 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: and scratches, but there's no full paper trail to this, 335 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: so we don't know exactly Goods actions or roles during 336 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: the sixth month, like he was there involved in this operation. 337 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: The only thing we can be sure of is that 338 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: he was responsible for rounding up victims and transporting them 339 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: to the camps to be murdered. And so he is 340 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: really taking on board like Klobotchnik's like way of doing things. 341 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: So Klobotnik had a way of combining untold cruelty with 342 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: basic greed and corruption. He saw Klobotnik lining his pockets 343 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: and he was inspired. By nineteen forty three, Good had 344 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: clearly impressed his sociopathic superiors and he was promoted to 345 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: Halbstomfuler and he was assigned to the essa's Tottenkovfbunda unit. 346 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: The death head, and on the eleventh of February that year, 347 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: Good became the commandant of the Poaijov concentration camp. Before 348 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: he even stepped foot in Krakhov, his reputation preceded him 349 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: as the bloody dog of Lublin. Good news travels fast, 350 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: bad news travels faster. His first task as commandant was 351 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: to oversee the camp's construction on a two hundred acre site, 352 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: and because they wanted to amplify the suffering and really 353 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: rub salt in the wind, this site was to be 354 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: built over two Jewish cemeteries, and like most camps, it 355 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: was built using slave labor, effectively using victims to build 356 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: their own prisons in order to create this camp and 357 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: to streamline everything, because remember the Nazis weren't just evil, 358 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: they were also evil bureaucrats, and so they had a 359 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: very well organized system. So the Krakhov Ghitto was liquidated 360 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: with those two week to work transported to extermination camps 361 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: or simply murdered in the streets, and within weeks because 362 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: of the grueling labor that was forced that it was 363 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: a fully operational labor camp. Just in case you were 364 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: unsure if amongut was a megal mania. When the first 365 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: prisoners arrived at the camp, he told them I am 366 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: your God. And in the camp he had complete authority 367 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: over everything, especially at this point at the beginning, he 368 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: had no one to answer to. There was no one 369 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: to clip his wings or nip it in the bud. 370 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: He had free reign to do as he pleased, and 371 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: he did. As well as being the commandant of Plajeov, 372 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: he had other responsibilities, like he was tasked with liquidating 373 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: nearby ghettos Krakovranov, so on and so forth. Now, this 374 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: wasn't just rounding people up and putting them on trains. 375 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: This was violent like, this was aggressive and terrifying. And 376 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: anyone not killed immediately, like they were shipped off to 377 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: a camp. 378 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: You know. 379 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: Again, those fit for work, they were sent to labor camps, 380 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: like a lot of them just ended up in Plaijeov. 381 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: And those who couldn't, those who were deemed unfit to work, 382 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: too weak to ill, they were sent to extermination camps. 383 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: And sometimes when they were rounded up in the square, 384 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 1: they would just be shot. And Amon Good personally murdered 385 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: Jewish victims in these roundups himself. So here's the thing, 386 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: the tonne of ghetto. It held almost half the city's population, 387 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: like entire population, and that was almost twenty five thousand 388 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: Jewish people. Ten thousand were sent to Plajov for slave labor, 389 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: with eight thousand being sent on to Auswitz and the 390 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: rest they were simply shot where they stood, with good 391 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: executing up to ninety women and children himself. And then 392 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: as he was liquidating the ghettos, he looted the homes, 393 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: taking jewelry, clothes, furniture, and anything not nailed down, and 394 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: then he sold them on the black market. He did 395 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: keep some of his favorite thefts for himself, but he 396 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: made himself rich selling the rest. What a corrupt Nazi. 397 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: I know you're shocked. So here's an interesting fact to remember. 398 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 1: As a member of the SS, acting on behalf of 399 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: the SS, that loot was considered property of the rich. 400 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: As Commandant de Plajeov, he was drunk with power. He 401 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: carried out executions on an almost daily basis. And the threat, 402 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: not just that, but the unknown threat, the fact that 403 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: it could happen at any time. That adds to the 404 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: terror of the situation because you're never knowing when he 405 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: was going to strike. Sometimes he'd order subordinates to perform 406 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: the executions, and other times he'd just do it himself, 407 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: Like he had killed prisoners for serving him soup that 408 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: was too hot because he couldn't just blow on it 409 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: or wait a minute. Another was killed because he dared 410 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: to look him in the eye, and another was walking 411 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: too slowly. One time he shot a man for being 412 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: too tall, and as he lay dying on the ground, 413 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: he urinated on him. Now poajov It didn't have gas 414 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: chambers or crematoria, so most of these victims they were 415 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: just shot dead and goods. He was known to stand 416 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: on the balcony of his villa at the camp and 417 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: shoot prisoners with his rifle, Like he had this villa 418 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: with a balcony, and he would ride his horse like 419 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: in and out of the camp. I like, he didn't 420 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: just use his rifle. He didn't just use a pistol. 421 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: He didn't just shoot like. That wasn't his modus operandi 422 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time. He also had two 423 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: large dogs, Rolfe a Great Dane and Ralph an alsation mix. 424 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: Now is he an Alsatian mix or is he a 425 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: German shepherd mix? Listen it's the same dog. A German 426 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: shepherd is an Alsatian. It's I think I discussed this 427 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: before in a previous episode, but yeah, everywhere I see 428 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: it it says Alsatian, and I'm like, I feel like, 429 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: if there was ever an appropriate time to call it 430 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: a German shepherd, this would be the appropriate time. Now 431 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm fairly certain that the dog he was like Alsatian 432 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: mixed with great Dene because he looks kind of Danish. 433 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: But anyway, these massive dogs, they had been trained to 434 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: torture prisoners on command, Like he would set them on 435 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: people and watch them tear them apart. Like he would 436 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: watch these dogs just like tear into these prisoners. And 437 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 1: just to add another layer of horrible onto this, like 438 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: he got jealous of the Jewish dog handler because he 439 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: thought the dogs liked him better, so he had the 440 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: dog handler killed. So it was about this time that 441 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: he meets Oscar Schindler, who, if you don't know who 442 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: he is, he's a German industrialist who owned an enamable 443 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: factory nearby, and so he had discovered that Good had 444 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: an achilles heel. I say hel heels more than one really, 445 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: because he loved flattery he loved like presents, especially fancy presents, 446 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: and also was rather fond of bribery. And so Oscar Shindler. 447 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: He had been a member of the Nazi Party, and 448 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: initially he had hired Jewish workers because he could underpay 449 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: them and make more money for himself. And then over 450 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: time he came to the realization that Jewish people were 451 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: people to so Schindler, he bribes Gota and in return, 452 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: Schindler's workers were kept in separate barracks, and they didn't 453 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: receive like the same level of cruelty, Like there was 454 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: like some protection for them, Like they were prisoners being 455 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: used for slave labor, but they had it slightly less 456 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: bad than the other prisoners being used for slave labor. 457 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: So like, as the Red Army is approaching towards Poland, 458 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: Schindler convinced Good to allow him to move his factory 459 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: and his twelve hundred workers to Berlin yits in Czechoslovakia. 460 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons that Good agrees to this 461 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: is because he thought he could use it to cover 462 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: his black market tracks. So he thought he could like 463 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: takes a of the stolen like Jewish goods from you 464 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: know where. He looted from all their homes and from 465 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, them coming into the camp. Because if you 466 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: come from the camp and you're coming from a ghetto, 467 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: a like just a living situation that is not another camp, 468 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: and you have anything of value on you like that 469 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: man's going to take it, like he's going to steal it. 470 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: And so in early May nineteen forty four, Goods was 471 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: told that ten thousand Hungarian Jewish people would be imprisoned 472 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: in Plajeov. Now, the camp numbers had risen steadily, and 473 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: they weren't really executing them as as quickly because they 474 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: weren't doing it en mass right. It wasn't happening. And 475 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: so there was just a lot of people like men, 476 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: women and children in this camp. And in order to 477 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: create space and this evergrowing population, he ordered that all 478 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: children in the camp would be moved to the kinda garden, 479 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: and on the fourteenth of May, most of those children, 480 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: like nearly all of them, were deported to Auschwitz for extermination. See. 481 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: In early nineteen forty four, the Poajov camp status changed 482 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: from a labor camp to a concentration camp under the 483 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: ESSs Economics and Administration's Office. This made it one of 484 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: thirteen official concentration camps in Poland, and because the Essys 485 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: were now in charge of the camp, the camp was 486 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: under closer scrutiny, which meant the corruption was not really 487 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: going to go unnoticed for much longer, and it didn't. 488 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: On the thirteenth of December nineteen forty four, Goot was 489 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: removed from his position of camp commandant at Blajeov and 490 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: was charged by the ESSs with theft of Jewish property 491 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: because remember, according to Nazi regulations, this belonged to the state. 492 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: He was also charged with violation of concentration camp regulations 493 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: regarding the treatment and punishment of prisoners and allowing unauthorized 494 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: access to camp personnel records. Basically, he was charged with 495 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: corruption and brutality. Like. Another thing he did like that 496 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: I don't think I mentioned, actually was he sold rations 497 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: like he sold for rations and was therefore underfeeding the prisoners. 498 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: Now from the perspective of like the administration, like their 499 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: idea was like, if you're not giving them the allocated rations, 500 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: they not going to be strong enough to work enough 501 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: to do what we need them to do. Oh and 502 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: another thing I may have failed to have mentioned is 503 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: that his wife Anna. She divorced him because of his 504 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: plethora of affairs, including one with Ruth Irene Calda, one 505 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: of Oscar Schrindler's secretaries. Right, she was a secretary in 506 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: his factory. And yeah, they met at dinner and next 507 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: thing you know, they're blinking, which I mean, this man 508 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: shoots people for walking slowly, and you're gonna you're gonna blink. 509 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: This man, Really, Ruth, make better choices. Anyway, he was 510 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: held in Breslau for about a month, but because of 511 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: the fast approaching end World War Two and the Nazi's 512 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: inevitable defeat looming in the air, the charges were dropped 513 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: because they were like, we don't have time for this 514 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: right now. And so he's skirting around Central Europe like 515 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: he's running about his primary concern is getting his hands 516 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: on his ill gotten wealth from his corruption at plaguere Ofv. 517 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: So he had goods shipped from like eastern Poland, and 518 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: he tried to retrieve some of this at Oscar Schindler's 519 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: new factory. Like he's trying to get like his stolen 520 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: Jewish loot from the ghettos that he has sent to 521 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: Oscar Schindler's factory with the intent of collecting it from 522 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: Oscar Schindler. Now in a crazy random happenstance, like he 523 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,959 Speaker 1: goes and he tries to get it, and then he's 524 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: suddenly in excruciating pain, like he's got this acute stomach pain. 525 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: It's happened all of a sudden and it's just from nowhere. 526 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: So he gets sent to an SS hospital like he's 527 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: like just in a lot of pain, like an abnormal 528 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: amount of pain. And when he gets there, the doctors 529 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: diagnose him as mentally ill, and so he is committed 530 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: to a mental institution in bad Tolls in Bavaria and 531 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 1: the Bad Toes. He was arrested by the US military 532 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: in May in nineteen forty five. So you know, the 533 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: Allies are coming in. You've got the Red Army on 534 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: one side, You've got like US forces coming in from 535 00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: the top, like everyone's coming in from all angles. And 536 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: so May nineteen forty five, like the US military show 537 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: up and they're like and when they arrest him, he's 538 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: wearing a wehmarket uniform, which he clearly went and found, 539 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: Like they're not putting patients in military attire, Like that's 540 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: not a thing. Like he's wearing this uniform and he 541 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: doesn't admit to being SS, like completely blanks it. But 542 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: they arrest him anyway, and he is sent to a 543 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: temporary prison camp in Dachau and they lose him, like 544 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: they lose him amongst the prisoner population, and he's just gone, 545 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: and it takes a former inmate of Plajov to identify 546 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: him so that he can be taken to trial. So 547 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: so there's this like prisoner of Puajov who goes to 548 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: become a Nazi hunter, and he was like going through 549 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: the camp anyway, and he recognizes this guy, and then 550 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: he gets other prisoners to confirm that he is in fact, 551 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm on good like they do it, and so he's 552 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: identified and he is extradited to Poland, where the new 553 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: government has been set up, and he is tried by 554 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: the Supreme National Tribunal in Krakhov between the twenty seventh 555 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: of August and the fifth of September nineteen forty six, 556 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: and it is here that he is convicted of membership 557 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: to the Nazi Party, which had been made illegal. Actually 558 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: at this time they had decided it's illegal to be 559 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: a member of the Nazi Party, and so he's convictor 560 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: of that he is convicted of ordering the torture and 561 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: imprisonment of people and of all things, which is interesting, 562 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: Like this is the most interesting part, like regarding to 563 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: like the actual just conviction of trials, like not his 564 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: entire story because he's a bastard, But he is convicted 565 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 1: of homicide. Right, this is the first such conviction at 566 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 1: a war crimes trial. Like he is the first person 567 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: and a war crimes trial to be convicted of homicide. 568 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 1: Like there's other variations and other sort of like torture abuse, 569 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:44,439 Speaker 1: but this homicide first time. Like typically when there's a war, 570 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: like when wars happen, like death is just part of 571 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: the course, you know, But this is execution. This is 572 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: mass murder. It's not the same as you know, one 573 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: soldier shooting another soldier on the battlefield. Like it's a 574 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: very different, different thing. And like the only words he 575 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 1: says in his defense and I shit, you not proper 576 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: Nuremberg trial, right he says that he was only following orders. 577 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: Sure jan Sure His last words would actually end up 578 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 1: being Heil Hitler On the thirteenth of September nineteen forty six, 579 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: at a prison, which is like a stones throw away 580 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: from the site of the plage of Camp. He's taken 581 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: to the gallows and he takes a short drop in 582 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: a sudden stop. He is hanged from the neck until dead, 583 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: and after he dies, his body was cremated and his 584 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: ashes dumped in a river, which honestly I think was 585 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: a little too good for him. But here we are. 586 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: It so earns the story of the Bloody Dog of 587 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: Lublin and the Butcher of pajov. So, if you didn't 588 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: hate me talking about history rate in review of five starts. 589 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: If you no, I'm not gonna say if you liked it, 590 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 1: because there's no way to like it. That's fucking horrible. 591 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: Follow me on socials. I'm on all of the places. 592 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: I have a Patreon, I have all this stuff and 593 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: where are we now? So I'm on so many platforms. 594 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: But also next month we're gonna go a bit more fun, 595 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: I think next month. And yeah, I just need to 596 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: confirm to everybody, like, if you've listened to me for 597 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: a while or you've seen me perform live, then you 598 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: know I am a vintage for lesque loving girling. Okay, 599 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: So I need you to understand this because I'm the pink 600 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: diamonds corset dress from Milan Rouge made, okay, And I 601 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: need everyone to know that this whole esthetic is inspired 602 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: by old timey burlesque and old timey showgirls and all that, 603 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: and it is not inspired by Taylor Swift, like she 604 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: can do what she wants. Good for her. But also 605 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm not copying Taylor Swift, like I'm just I just 606 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: like old things. I like murder, she wrote, and the 607 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: coconut grove. Okay, I don't know. Okay for listening right, 608 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: if you want to get some like medieval renaissances kind 609 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: of history but with like bite and the appropriate amount 610 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: of likes said in a sentence, vulgar history is a 611 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: really fun listen. I really enjoy that. So if you 612 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 1: listen to Anne, she's amazing. So she's someone really fun 613 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: for watching. I didn't realize that Project Runway was still 614 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 1: a thing, Like I was unaware that it continued to exist. 615 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: So that's super fun to know. So I was like, 616 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: ohlau Roach is on Project Runway and I was like, oh, 617 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to see it, but it's on like 618 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: Hulu and Disney Plus and I was like, what, so 619 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 1: that's going to be my fun escapism after I filmed 620 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: all this stuff. So there's that. And for reading, I 621 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: got this amazing book a few months ago, and I 622 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: don't think I ever recommended it to y'all. Like, if 623 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: you get a chance to, you should definitely read The 624 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: Hundred Years War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi. It is 625 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: just an amazing book. It's amazing. And with that, I 626 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: am going to Badugannet Adios au revoir of Waism, my friends, 627 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 1: Bye bye,