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This is 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.040 drinks Champ reading where every day is New Year's Eve. 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:17.600 That's right, Hey, Hanks, grip us your boy and put 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.720 up his DJ e f and his drink chest Mother 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:28.040 podcast Max, You've got some of that presents you guys 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.240 on behalf of CBS. Okay, okay, if that's what they 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:35.720 want to congratulate you on twenty five million listening world. Woamn, 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.360 you know this is going down that you didn't tell 0:01:50.400 --> 0:02:00.320 me you and doing it him high and that's we're 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.720 doing the hip hop. So I would like to introduce 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:08.600 if you into hip hop, If you if this is 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.000 something that you say you love and this is something 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.000 to say you adapted, and you don't know these two brothers, 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.680 and you don't know how these brothers shaped and molded 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.880 the culture for everything that you love right now, If 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.720 it wasn't for these two people that standing beside me 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:30.079 in front of me, rather what hip hop is, it's 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:37.840 because of them. They singlehandedly had their hands on the 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:42.480 best artists ever. When you think about all matic, think 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.880 about reasonable doubt, and think about Biggie, they worked with 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:51.960 the three top of the best. They continuously out here 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.800 looking young, They out here and then and then the 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.480 beat battle had just took place, and a lot of 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.040 people are with Swiss Beats bigging him up and is 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:01.919 gonna just blaze. But a lot of people don't know 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.040 that these brothers been doing this for years, for years, 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:08.079 they started it, and I am so proud to introduce 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.160 and to represent people that I look up to personally, 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:21.839 Pete Rocket, motherfucker DJ your listen brothers who I'm gonna 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:25.720 be honest. The fact that both of you brothers had 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:30.360 worked on my favorite hip hop album of all times, 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.360 which is All matic Um. Now, I just want to 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.480 take it from there because was it because we had 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.840 q tip on here? And I believe q Tip I 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.680 think he said he suggested that that he worked with 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.800 them or so how did yeah? So was it? Large? 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:56.200 Large confessors? He oh, chief in command actual the chief 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.800 in commander of Elmatic. Get then you're telling me you 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.800 never heard of not both your brothers and the thing 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.640 is back. You know Queen's artist, including yourself for one. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.520 Y'all wrapped longer than any other with no hooks, no 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.880 and you know law of Professor is so New York 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.800 like he'd be like yo, like yo, like like world 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.840 like yo. He do that for like ten minutes before 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.599 you saying senate and he was like, yo, yo, prem 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:28.200 I got just do name the rapper Nasa. It wasn't 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:35.240 Nat Wrapper. He was trolling his lyrics, so he wasn't 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:41.280 even that rappers. Yeah he does it on hanging Out, 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:45.120 hang Out, he said, like the wrapper nas yeah, you know, 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.880 and so even wrapping big noise, I figured, that's just 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:52.000 a thing. That's a queen's sing. That's a queen's sing. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:53.960 And we got we got peat Rock. I mean, we 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.599 got Premier drinking jim Bean out his motherfucker. I want 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:01.000 to glasses, baby, I think it sho someone open one 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:06.840 for me, please. You're just so y'all know that's how 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.800 y'all know. Y'all been y'all. Y'all personally raised me and 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.960 you probably didn't know that, but um, it was so 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.200 honor to work with both for you brothers. Your brothers 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.039 are hip hop. When I think of hip hop, your name. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:21.960 I know both of your names start with a P, 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.160 but it feels like it feels like your name should 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.320 be a you know, the first time I met you, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:29.640 D and D. Let's go to D and D Studios 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.600 front door. You know what he's saying yo from me. 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:34.840 It was something man, Yo, my name is Jose Luise 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.680 like and the thing is the L A L A 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:47.280 regular h okay, we got him drinking. I'm fifty years old, man, 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.440 I know, I know, I know you an experience. You 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:57.240 gonna do one whiskey or even nobody. You're trying to 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.080 give him that shot and then you call another one. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.640 But but the crazy thing is when I heard l 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:06.120 A l A right for you opened up blands Luise, Luise, 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:16.680 that's how we do. That's like some ye rock. I 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.960 used to hanging queens with Flush. I heard you play 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:25.240 unreleased Reasons one on me, Casina. What's that unreleased Flush versus? 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.800 That was worldwide remix? I never put at that beat. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.600 That beat. We got to do that back for y'all. 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.440 I owe you're right it for y'all. I gotta do 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.040 that beat for y'all. I owe you. I also pick 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.159 you off for me in the supreme. How people don't 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.720 know Rocks the person that plugged me in? What's the crame? 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.279 Let's make some You don't smoke right? Yeah I do, 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.440 but I don't care. Just don't care. Hard I did. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:52.200 I didn't mind, you know, ninety two. So let's let 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.800 her still. Now, let's take let's take it from the 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:59.800 beginning premiere. How did you and and and Google even 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:04.000 me I met Guru because um it goes back to 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:08.000 nineteen eighties seven into eighty eight. My good friend who's 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.360 still my man, Carlos Garza in Houston, Texas, helped me 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:18.080 get a job at He's he's a Boston so Wild 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.720 Pitch Records is a husband and wife label. Shout the 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:25.240 Stu finding a Search was later surgeries later it was 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.520 just Stu finding his wife. No one else. They're now 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.600 the rap permotion Guru was a person that would go 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.000 over to their house every day and then listen to 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.320 every demo that came in. They had Lott already signed 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.960 whose Apache recipes that Patty's brother and latt did a 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.400 lot of writing, you know with Latifa and the Flavor Unit, 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.680 and he had a record called This Got Flavor which 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.520 was big in New York at the time. Dad in 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.680 putting on the his That's how forty five King came 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.240 into doing the Wild Pitch work. And then Chill rob 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.760 g came along who was also part of Lattis crew 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.240 in the Flavor Unit, and he got signed the Wild Pitch. 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:01.520 Gang Star got signed after that, and so they had 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.080 a red called the Lesson. I wasn't in the group. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.960 Then uh three, Gangster goes to three different chambers. The 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:10.560 first chamber was Big Sugar and Google Gang Star. It 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.800 was Big Sugar Google when Google when Google was going 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:17.240 to school at Morehouse. So they they're both from Boston. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:20.760 And it was Shug brother swab D. They were the 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.600 first gang Star. Then swab D stepped out and it 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.800 became to him Sees Damon d Ski, but Gurgle wrote 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.960 all the rhymes and it was Guru and then DJ 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.640 Mike D but he was just called DJ want to 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:36.160 be Down, but DJ one the number two name let 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.160 her be and want to be down. It was one 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.560 of the number two letter being and down one will 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.240 be down. So he, uh, he has a brother named Gangstar. 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.840 T you know what I'm saying. Yea, So all that 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:54.640 trickled down into the name. But Sugar and Gurgle originated Sugar. 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:59.080 Everything he's doing the thing the movies now like yeah, 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.120 we're working with Larry David all that stuff. So so 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.040 from there, um, when grew moved in New York and 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.360 the rest of the members didn't. She got locked up 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.440 for a while, so not now it's just grew on 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.840 his own. But any time work wasn't involved with any money, 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:14.760 no one would come up to New York to help 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.800 him doing any movement around, hopping around to get getting 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.000 the club, get on the radio. They weren't. They weren't 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.640 really gettingradio played until they dropped their second single called 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.960 Buster Move Boy, which is when I heard him. I 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:26.520 was in New York at the time for the summer 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:28.800 and read Alert was cutting it up, Molly Marl was 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.200 cutting it up. And if they're playing it, I thought 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.560 they were called game stop because of his Boston accent. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:43.440 He's his gang style, the knowledge, that's a positivity, that's yeah. 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.439 But this is right just right before how anything in 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.400 control was just about to stop bubbling, but before Magic left. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:51.800 But uh and chilei Q used to be up there 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.600 and and and the Kevy Cab so when and YouTube. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:59.400 Of course, when I met with group, I met you 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:05.640 had the reds the mic. Yeah. Yeah, He's like he's like, no, 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.000 keep it going, Yeah, he'll keep going, He'll keep going. 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.800 So from that point, uh, those three artists were the 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.840 label Cheer Rob Glatt and Gangstar and forty five King 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.640 was the only producer that worked after that after Donald 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:21.760 D produced the first single. So from there, uh, Google 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.440 used to go through a box of the demos when 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.240 every time mail came in, because back then it was 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:30.000 about mailing your stuff, walking it in Carlos snugging my 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.760 my my demo over to STU just be you know. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.480 I was in a group called mcas and Control and 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.800 Textas and my m C was from Boston's name was 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:44.920 top Ski. We were we're uh, we was keeno at 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:53.200 top Ski Sugar Pop. They heard my demo, but they 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.520 didn't like my m C. They're like me and they 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.120 were like, we really want you. But I was like 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.840 basically seen the beats and my scratching. They were bugging 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.440 off my sus huge back. So I didn't really want 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.360 to leave my group, so I said I can't do it. 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.480 I gotta stay stay doing what I do. Time passed. 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.080 My MC pretty much got frustrated after going shopping other deals. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.160 We're gonna get a deal, so he said, I'm joining 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.679 the military. I thought he was just bluffed. One day 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.679 we're at the house, shout to Gordon Franklin. The whole 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.640 Franklin family, Gary Art and Recipes and Marland Franklin. We 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.240 were staying at that house. I thought we were going 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.679 to college together. That's how I met them. And next thing, 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.080 you know, the bell rings on the weekend and the 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.920 recruiting officers at the door. Yeah. Man, yeah, I'm looking 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.000 for Theodore Campbell and I'm like for what he said, 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.600 he signed he's joined the baby and I thought I 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.040 was like, I thought he was lying, and I'm like, 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.080 your top the other on the basement cause we all 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.719 lived together, and he's like, yo, I'm out. He has 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.520 his backpacked already, Like how long did you did you? 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.200 Did you join? He said for four years? M yeah, 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:51.319 he said four years and already met Top everything. I'm 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.080 like four years, so I'm not gonna wait for you know, 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.000 four years he said, yo'ut do your thing and that's 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.160 not called back to the wild. Fish said, yo, my man, 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.079 my man left are now I'm available to now he 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.160 lived in the group because that's my front man and 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:05.840 the groups. I gotta want you in the group. So 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:11.480 that's how I joined Gangstar. Google on my tape and 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.800 Lord fer Nessus tape that's our's got signed to wild 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.680 pitch and that's how I end up. That's the first 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:21.760 artist I ever produced was besides, let's take some noise 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:30.800 for that mans like that? Okay, so now, p Yeah, 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.240 how did you meet cr y'all went to school together 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.599 through some street guys, and um, you know when I 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.040 heard you know, there was timing he could wrap or whatever, 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.040 and when I heard his voice in high school because 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.400 he was always a producer. He was a producer. Yeah, 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.000 well England hood. I started doing my high school parties dans. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.720 You know, I became a DJ in my front motherfucker's 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:56.640 you know, flocked to so I met C. He got 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.760 a distinctive voice. We did like fifty sixty demos in 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:04.560 my basement, four tracks, four track like and got signed 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:08.240 off that ship. I mean, like who's taking like dance 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.679 to the drummers beat and making songs, you know, taking 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.000 the break beats? That man Lenny from the Bronx was 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.600 street beat and I would make beats out of them 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.040 sens just normal ship. And then because my girl is 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.200 like it's like the Bronx being the place of hipp 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:28.160 and birthplaces, right, mont Vernon is like next this cousin. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:32.359 Yeah yeah, so y'all had to have hip hop justice 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:37.640 originally from the Bronx bro. You know, when I was young, 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.480 I went to Bronx Room Park, not knowing what was 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.880 gonna know what I'm saying, Oh, I know as I've 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.600 seen a bunch of cool dudes smoking, drinking and listening 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.320 to hip hop and had me. And then when I 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.960 turned seven years old, I met James Brown. What and 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:59.880 I that's gonna change it? Rock your cousin heavy dr 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:05.120 It was my cousin of course family. That's some peace, bro. 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.360 And you know he took me under this wing. And 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.199 that's how I learned everything. That's why I meant everybody. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:15.960 Before I even became who I Watch, I was Teddy Wiley. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:21.280 I was in the studio how we teach reminisces Old 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.880 Were You? Which is such an iconic song for iconic song, 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:29.960 but now that is about actual person, correct, my man? 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.800 Can we bring that down? Troy right? Just tour have 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:38.280 you being the boards him and kid plays road managers 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.360 playing around you know who's always be on tour plane 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.880 what I mean? And they were playing with empty guards 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.160 kids and throwing them, throwing them, trying to hit each other. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:50.200 And you don't never hurt. You know, I missed the steps. 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:52.600 He was at the edge of the stage. I didn't 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.720 know what's going to and have called me and started crying, 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:01.320 and you know, the whole all up. I don't even today, 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.120 to this day, I don't even know how I was 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.120 able to listen to a record and make a beat 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.840 because I was so distraught that man in the whole 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.680 hood was he was infamous in the hood. But you 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:16.680 know how legendary that. So I didn't do it. You know, 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.040 you can do that. And when I spent the sample, 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.240 you know, I was with extra p wounds in Queens. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.040 We would dig in and I found a record, damn mean, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.800 and we you know, took it home, fun with it, 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:32.160 you know, and next thing, you know, I put you know, 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.400 after the beat was made and everything like that, we 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:38.240 got in the Stuco came with the lyrics and like, 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.360 but he didn't have the beat, like he already had 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.000 the rhymes rope, but he needed the beat to match 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.560 the rhymes. And that's very like it's not easy to 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:52.640 do that. So it mild a raid in and it's 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:57.320 just like classically talked about his aunt and you did 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.400 you know that was going to be as classic as 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.240 it is when you when I had Charlie Brown for 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:06.640 me to Sais and he was there for a mixtap 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.280 and we were just all that right, I just let 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.120 it out like I ain't even care if he you know, 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.160 who was around, because I was thinking about Troy and 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:20.480 he started crying, and then the engineers darting, and I said, 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:23.720 I think we got something, and I think, you know, 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:25.880 the only thing I don't I don't like about that 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:36.560 record is that I wish I made Like, wait, what 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.880 what are you say? It's wrong about it? It's a 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:42.280 lot of I'm so now I gotta take it to 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:48.440 one of my favorite games back the Massive Pill one 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:53.040 of us. I got old night on it. Okay, so 0:16:53.640 --> 0:17:08.520 Massive Hill, what drugs was you smoking? You know it's 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.000 crazy because I mean everybody has the rors of of 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.000 getting lifted. I mean now to pay because the early 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.080 young kids. It's not my thing, but I mean we 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.560 all have ways of escaping and and uh music and 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.200 and drugs and drinking and sex and all that sports. 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.040 It has always been in a twine. But it's all 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.560 about how strong your mind is or how weak your 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.840 mind is. I've always kept your wrong mind to know 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:31.960 how to turn the switch off and get back to 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.040 manage it properly. I'm glad I made Yeah, yeah, you 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:40.440 were hot, good with you know what. I've heard that 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:48.199 it's happening that it was a good old day at 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.359 ninety three in a ninety four that came bout ninety 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.720 four song came by ninety three. But I mean, those 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:54.800 are the good old days of just yeah, you know, 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:56.359 you know you were torched before you go on the 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.000 lab and start cooking something off and and he was 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.000 with them without I mean, my mind approach is still 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.240 the same. So I think Goodness said that it is 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.680 because I'm still active, even if fifty years old, does 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:07.920 the work is still coming. We're still active, which we 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.639 still are addicted to making beats and we're forming a 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:15.560 DJ and we're like, we're but but Master Hill was 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.199 a really was. We was actually making it as a 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.399 google to radio because we wouldn't getting regular rotation on 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.720 radio as an improper group. But like who always said 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.600 we got platinum, respect Like all the platinum artists are 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.000 loving us, but we can't sell some of records. But 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.760 everybody that that's platinum and selling millions loved Gangsters we 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:39.320 were like, let's making radio, making fun of radio. When 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:40.720 I said, I want to make something that sounds like 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.320 you're on an elevator, gonna pere and so that was 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.000 my mind stage. I wanted to make the records. You know, 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:59.159 I'm thinking about your logic to the closest to what 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.800 that's what. There's a lot of times I pre hear 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.439 the song and I'm looking for the stuff that matches 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.080 my what I'm looking for. That's why the drums usually 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.800 come first. But you know, because it's like, you know, 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:12.480 it's going whatnots on this one, I'm going in pizza 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.919 on this one, going sub on this you know, we 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:21.480 kind of already know where we're gonna go. In the 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:25.359 early days of my gangs Are career, there's three people 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.640 that really taught me how to get to the level 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:29.680 of actually four of the level of that where I 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:33.800 should now I'll take anybody on our any He taught 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.800 me how to feel to show biz some dr TC 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.560 show biz, g taught me to thinking about how to chop. 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.400 I learned how shopping show biz. And then large Professor 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.960 just showed me crazy traits that each come of miles 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.359 and show with us because we we met and we 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:52.399 just go to Ms. Mackenzie's Ausodes who was the d 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.200 j's mom stir cutting k scratch, I mean k cutting 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:57.680 such scratch. So we just go to the house. So 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.439 I was around large and Pete a lot in they 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.119 were way more advanced on the programming from from me. 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.440 We all way to the records of the sampling, but 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.040 my skill didn't really get to a point until around 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.520 ninety two, you know what I'm saying, when I started 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:14.360 working on Boom Bad with ca Arres, because the original 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.960 rap were not that, not that song, but the majority 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:24.560 of again Mortal thought, yeah, out of here. Mortal thought 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:30.000 carrots want to tacks and you did? You got killed? 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:37.119 That you killed was just a laugh at radio for 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:39.080 not playing us, and then it turned out to be 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:44.119 our biggest that you do it. You know, you know 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.000 what else I gotta I gotta go straight into it. 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:51.000 I'm so sorry, stick kids. That was a true story, 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.119 just to get a rep. We just got idea. We 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:56.879 were living in the Bronx and where the Third Street 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.040 had moved out of East New York and I was 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:00.879 living in the Yea. We moved to the Bronx one 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.399 of a Third Street that's how I met. That's how 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:07.760 I met. That's how that Tenancy from the n Y Jeez, well, 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.560 that's why I met Smiley to get town Nutcracker from 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:14.720 the Nutcracker. I lived on a third and Andrews and 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:16.879 they all that they all live down the hill on 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:27.320 Andrews was hood. So having was we got our first check. 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:30.880 I was moving into brew And with grand from my sellers. Uh. 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:34.439 He was about to be the um music director for 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:37.520 the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, so he his life 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.720 and Hiss something still still living there before they moved 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:41.600 to l A. They you know, so they were kind 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.760 of back and forth. So around the time before he 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.399 may officially moved, he we all moved together. So now 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.720 as brand for his wife, his son, me and Google 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.439 all living together on three seventy for Washington and Brooklyn. 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:53.800 So we moved back to Brooklyn. We both bought our 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.720 first brand new cause and you know, I had a 0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:00.199 whip already, but I'm up to the MPV in the 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:02.880 cars for the time for sure. But it was very 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:09.160 famous everyone. It was one of a mind boy cars 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.680 because it was the sound system everybody knew me for. 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.720 So when when that happened, grew about a four runner. 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:21.080 These went the four Runners style body style grew got 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:24.399 into a problem with some dudes in Brooklyn, and uh, 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:26.800 he tried to stick him dead. Yeah, and then and 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.600 they took the car. They took the time toime pass 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:33.480 looking for cats, looking cats, couldn't find a car. One day, 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:37.680 we're just four gps. Yeah, okay. One day we're moving around. 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:42.400 We see the car start chasing after the guy going 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:46.040 after him. He's high speed chase. Cops see us start 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:48.160 chasing too, going after him. He's like, that's how called. 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.160 That's our call because they want to pull us over. 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:54.399 They go after car. He keeps on driving. He the 0:22:54.480 --> 0:23:00.320 driver hits an ice cream truck and dies. Yeah. And 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:03.560 it's crazy because grew at a picture of the day 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:04.879 he got the car and he's in front of it 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.159 going like like, yeah, I got my car going to 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:09.880 the precinct. When they brought the car, it was all 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.200 swistin and everything from the from the crash and it 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:14.240 was all Smich stuff and groups, I gotta take a 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:21.399 picture body standing by going first before. He said I'm 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:24.840 writing a song about this, and we wrote the song Anti. 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:27.560 The album only has two verses. When we came out 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:29.720 with the video with Fat Freddie and did that. He said, 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:33.360 we need was on that. That's me scratching their dead hook. 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:36.159 I mean they did voice on whatever funding for you, 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:40.919 they're gonna so so Fat Freddie said, we need a 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.720 closing way of the video, and being that the guy 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:46.119 did die in the end, he said, we gotta do 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.119 a third verse of Greup wrote the third verse and 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:50.000 that's why the twelve inch has a definitely type of 0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:55.199 bounce and it's been re recorded as three verses. So 0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:57.480 that yeah, and that crazy that we actually found the 0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:00.520 dude to took off after cops go after after us 0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:02.399 and once we say no, we're trying to get our 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.240 call back, and the dudes running and crashed on the 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:08.680 camp for your ice cream trunk. That's why you gotta 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:10.960 love game Star. This is why you got a little 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:17.720 true star. You got now Pete right, the world is young? 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:25.439 How was I hating that? Now? That meant still when 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.840 you heard hold on, hold that holder for a second, 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:33.960 because I want to say, arguably might be my favorite 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:37.119 record on Back's my favorite album of all time in 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.720 mine too, not because I'm on it either. It would 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:42.399 have been my favorite even if I ain't on it 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:49.560 at all, Glad. I just want you to describe. He 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:54.119 was there just to watch, all right. So now you 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.960 meet this kid that last professor correct brings you to them, 0:24:58.280 --> 0:24:59.560 and then they say they want you to work on 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:02.800 Hi Mound burning. And there's a story where I had 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.680 not waiting. I didn't even realize. I don't even remember. 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.000 He said that I was in the car talking to 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.959 a girl and he was behind me. But you know, 0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:15.000 he's behind me to get out, like you know what 0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.919 I mean, But he waited. He just stood in the 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:23.159 car shot exactly. But still we got it together. We 0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:25.600 got that stairs, right. I go through a couple of 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:30.280 as twelve hundred dicks, right, the first three, the second 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.159 one I put disc I put in. When I played it, 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.080 he just said, oh wait, wait, wait, wait wait and 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:40.000 just stood in close. And I'm like, okay, that means 0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.920 he likes it. But I just knew it, man, And 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:44.800 this is the world as yours you're saying. He's like, yo, 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:46.359 he wanted the same one, but I want you to 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:55.600 do the world some hip hop saying. And then we 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.320 got in the studio, went to battery. That's where we 0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:02.399 did it. You know, mixed assuming alf job records. I 0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:05.120 watch you later scratches one tape Premore came in there 0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:09.399 and I did the scratch. I think as a quiet 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.679 as I've ever been to. I just standings like this 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.800 looking and I was just like, what the world don't know? 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:21.800 Does the world know who nas is? Like? Again? Half 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:24.360 time was half time? What about back to the grill again? 0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:28.880 Was back to the grill before happening? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.520 it was half building at this point, right, so yeah, 0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:35.399 the buzz already this was crashed through Matic because Super 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:40.800 was out when it was done and finished. Man, but man, yeah, 0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:48.199 what's this? Three jobs on the half three at the 0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:52.840 time that I only had represented, but not the one 0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:54.920 on the album. The one is on the Atmatic is 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:57.560 a remix? I was not the one on the vinyl 0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.320 on the single, No, just the one that's the one 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.199 was on the album. One is only a period? Is 0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:07.280 the remax at the baseline? Hold on? What's the originals? 0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:16.080 I don't have to up do? Yeah, but I can't 0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:20.280 believe I'm make that story because I still can't believe 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:26.320 what is this? We celebrate overs being congratulated by Yeah, 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.439 I don't wanted another FLAQ I just didn't know I 0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:39.600 was gonna get it a podcast. Thank you, hip Hop, 0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.639 Thank you. It's the fact that you know, um, I 0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.520 don't know if you guys know what. We only interview legends, 0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.520 not because we don't have love for the new generation, 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.680 because we do. But I feel like in hip hop, 0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.760 hip hop is the only place that you get ten 0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.040 years in, you get fifteen years in and they say 0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:01.359 you oh, and that right. We're all older, but we 0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:05.040 have old Thomas music. But we are true to what 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:08.520 we did. Absolutely were leaving. So I just want to 0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.119 keep the interviewing legends and for us to have a 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:17.440 twenty five million flat congratulations. Congratulations and I hate you 0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:20.600 why he knew he had? Man, it was supposed to be. 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:25.760 When did you get hey listen man? Yeah, like I 0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:31.440 didn't know to And then on the sidebar my boy 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:38.040 DJ Heron DJ Herond definitely bad. You know what I 0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.520 gotta You always gotta big up a wrong because if 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.720 you go to a hair wrong party, be come around. 0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.600 It's a real hip hop. The bitches are going to 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:49.600 be there with the sneaker Scott. That's real. When the 0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.760 chicks got their hell's on, that's not hip hop like 0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:56.160 you gotta your sneakers, gotta be dirty to a certain 0:28:56.160 --> 0:29:08.400 next day, you know, to be real hip hop. Welcome 0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.760 to play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV 0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:16.240 personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it 0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:21.040 at play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs Radio 0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:27.800 with rapper and R and d J. Then now, so 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.920 you do the world as yours. They said after you 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.840 did the record, he was just happy for happy. But 0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.880 did you did You had the full sight just to 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:45.640 think that this guy would actually like you know this guy. 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:47.440 There was a lot of anticipation even when you guys 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.040 were working on the project. Nobody in the game rap 0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:54.200 that it was like rock him again, right right? Yeah, 0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.440 he stood in his own light, but he was in 0:29:56.520 --> 0:30:00.720 probably inspired by the rap rock him question you know 0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.880 question but it's open. Yeah, that was that was That 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.000 was the one. This is new and I've been coming 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:11.160 and we were confident and he was confident. I was 0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:12.680 happy were There are a lot of records on that 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:14.680 project that that didn't make the project that you guys 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:16.840 are that it was that the only beat you made. 0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.040 Oh so it'll be one and done. One hit the 0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:26.120 repeet that going, uh, they're all flowing away for and 0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:31.160 then you took it the remix and hold yeah talking 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.040 about okay, yeah, yeah too. Remixes had me all the 0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:39.280 same wait oh wait wait wait wait it was oh 0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.880 like in a good way, but like damn, my actually said, 0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:48.080 have just did a quick remix, you know, but they're 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:52.560 both amazing and it totally totally different, you know, different approaches. 0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:57.480 His talents are amazing. Que tip shout out to him. 0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:02.480 So now you did, said, three joints represent the Memory 0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:06.560 Lane and New York State of Mind. Memory Lane, Memory Lane, 0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.720 Memory memory Lane, Me, Me and me and NAS. We 0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:12.560 had a debate on that one because I actually didn't 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.080 like that one. This is prime. This is the crazy 0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.840 shot I've been in the studio with three roll. Yo. 0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:20.280 You're really a perfection this, yo, because I do it 0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.120 on the spot. Ye, you really affected, yo. I went 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.760 to six times. We couldn't get to beat right, and 0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:28.040 he said he came to me. He came to me 0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:32.000 and said, what's your room, nickel? I said, no, front 0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:38.520 drop glasses. I believe that's an incredible juice. Then you 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:43.800 made the beat in two fucking seconds. Black that No, 0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:45.720 that's a lot of big records when I performed no. 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.080 But the thing about it is is that what you happen, 0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.600 you have to hear the votes first time, because but 0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:58.360 what Armaticul is one of the best hip hop albums 0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.320 for so much from understanding, I wasn't on the report 0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:07.000 and now you got me on another and all that. 0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:10.160 This was the year Reunion merged as a solo artist too. 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.720 I mean, your first, your first nor y'all. I was sick. 0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.400 That was like, it's sick thinking. I mean like that, 0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:20.880 like to this day, don't want to get back to 0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:24.560 baby more. What happened was we wanted to promote be 0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:30.440 so bad everybody we for some reason, our schedules was 0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:32.320 messed up. And then we went to D and D. 0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:34.920 We went to D n D and I felt like 0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.400 he needed something from us and we just kept wasn't 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:42.400 given to And then you just the sixth second I 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:47.960 remember the sixth secon he said and screened on and 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.640 I was like, yo, and I'm I'm as saying I 0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.040 gotten too. I was like, yo, just meet me this, 0:32:55.800 --> 0:33:00.080 you know, I know he's on. He was like go 0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:04.440 feeling like you know you And then and then that 0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:13.400 day and you can't even like not sorry the crazy ship. 0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.360 He said, what's your opening line? And I said that 0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.680 So you had that rhyme already. Really, I had the 0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.360 rhyme already. I just was waiting for something perfect to 0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:27.800 go perfectly said, and he said say it again. He 0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:33.840 made the whole. I was like, right my mind, I 0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:38.480 was like day to be at the television. Yeah, my 0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.760 turntable set up on a big old nineteen seventies television 0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.520 with the with the wood and everything with the record 0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.800 player on the two and I got the turntable in 0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.200 the mix on their pulse. That right there, but going yo, 0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:55.280 I still can't believe turn table on a television seven 0:33:55.360 --> 0:34:01.160 And that's what fair with the pan of sis to 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.400 everybody in the hood and the projects have them on radio. 0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:07.000 We gotta do right now. Promote is described in these 0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:13.799 studios because I'm not hip hopcast on the studios was 0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:17.960 actually not nowhere in neighbor hood, but it was motherfucker 0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.160 was in the city. But once you get in the 0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:23.960 D n D, you're in the project. But that was 0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:27.279 an automatic that was that was a heroin block. When 0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.080 we started working there in ninety two. That was a 0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:34.520 heroin block. So during that time, a relevant private before 0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.279 y'all try to come. It was drugs central and there 0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.920 was no lights so it was very dark, and ran 0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:42.520 a newspaper right across the street. So we was always 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.080 beat with them. And then there was a lot of 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.640 fighting and threats and and I'm gonna get my gun 0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:48.759 and all this crazy stuff back then, and and it 0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:52.120 was just I remember a heavy decan came by and said, 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:56.400 do we really gotta finish the sid But you demanded 0:34:56.440 --> 0:35:01.680 that people get everything, So so how am I had 0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.360 to go? I went? I went and went over to 0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.520 Hip Factory to finished working for him. And he was like, yo, 0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.520 this is grimy brame and I was like, Yo, that's 0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.759 how I do it. You had a machine that had 0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:22.000 Philly cigars and what is it called? With bamboo and Philly? 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:24.359 Did you have called living there as well? I think 0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.920 you're hid car. It was all kind of weird. It was. 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:31.440 It was. It was in the dude. We had to 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:37.919 restock at least every week whatever were being bought. You know, kid, 0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:39.480 you not. I used to be like, because you know, 0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:41.440 every time we used to go to the studio, we 0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.600 always stopped the cigars. But we went to Dnja, we 0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.400 never stopped. We said just go straight there. It was 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.200 a little bit like like more expensive, but it was 0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:58.279 like worth it. It was that recently Pete, Kanye and 0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:03.480 jay Z just you to do with joy describe what 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:07.600 was that like? Going to win mean Black Sea? Sorry 0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:15.960 I didn't. So he was being a kid in a 0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:19.279 candy store to me, gotten his new whip brand new 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:23.720 whip tags. Don't meet him kid cutting in Hawaii, burning 0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:28.440 the road, come zero to sixty in less than three seconds. 0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:32.719 That's that's how hot that got pulled over. Police let 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:37.600 him go. But now when he gives you that call, 0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:42.000 because at the end of the day, you represent the 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.480 purest form of hip hope. So when you get a 0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.560 call from Kanye, what is your first reaction. I'm just 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.879 gonna bring on my knowledge around And when I got there, 0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:54.000 he actually impressed me with what he knew what I'm 0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.960 saying and from my interludes to just like music in 0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:01.320 general and how he respects it. I knew we was 0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.959 onto something good from the start. So I started helping 0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.280 him out, like run away or last me in the bathroom, 0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:12.839 helping him out doing little beats, you know, you know, 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.239 just getting the popping. But when we got together into 0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.960 the Joy. I didn't know jay Z was gonna be on. 0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:25.320 My engineer at the time was young Gurgle Gurgle that 0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.600 was young at the time at that time. So I 0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.359 was working with him and you know, he called me 0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.799 and he said, yo, listen to this. And I was 0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:38.920 driving at the time and he eats Boye Scott on there. 0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:43.640 That was familiar to me because Familie pulled over soun 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:50.240 who that who that be? He's like, listen, listenariculated again 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.839 and I had He's like, jay Z, is that jay 0:37:53.920 --> 0:38:01.200 Zy get something together and find only he finally gets 0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:07.200 on the feat and it happened through Kande, So let 0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:10.600 the racket drive get it really good. I was happy 0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.759 for that, even though Premo was already you know, deep 0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:22.520 into jay Z. Let now premon you will actually on 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.560 a reason moved out correct, Okay, lot was done to 0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:29.160 dn D. That's correct. Credits sate dn D. So now 0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.880 this kid comes. Now you already worked with NAS albums 0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:38.480 already out. Uh, you already crowned the top producer. But 0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:41.520 now this guy comes to you. It got some Brad, 0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.719 But I know you. You don't give a funk about Brad. 0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:48.399 I know you and did you know him from Original Flavor. Yeah, 0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:50.920 I know before that, before that day, I knew Jay 0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:54.680 probably about eighties seven because Jazz was on E M 0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:56.920 MY and then even when we got signed T M I, 0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:00.040 which was the Christmas the same distribution, JA was so 0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.440 would always come up there with Jazz. Oh so, anytime 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.640 Jazz will show up to any club or whatever, Jay 0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:07.400 was always with him. And back then Jay had the 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.640 big long dukiek. Then we're gonna we're gonna get squashed 0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:16.160 with Ja. We were talking about that yesterday. Just drink 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:22.840 chance squash beats and uh so, being a character you 0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.600 what did he say to you? He says Prem because 0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.439 you've seen him in the industry. And one thing about 0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:32.320 Green Prem don't give everybody a beat. No, you gotta 0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:37.120 prove yourself real MC to get a beat. Complain. So 0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:40.239 what did jay Z do that you said, I'm gonna fun. Well, 0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:43.000 even when it got to the point of him hanging 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:44.759 with lit Prigonal Flavor, that's when I was selling in 0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:48.560 the Bronze and Chop down the block and so that 0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.400 down University down there, down the other way down the 0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:53.680 hill from from where we were, uh you know, but 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.799 then it goes up hill, down everything down the hill, 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:57.640 up the hill were the they were down the hill 0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.520 from from where I was, and uh so, um so, 0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:05.480 being I knew j already, it's crazy because Big L 0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:09.360 was already saying, Yo, you know if you know this 0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.680 a big L with with with J a lot, but 0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:16.880 also j R. Yeah, yeah, they were. They were merging 0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:18.920 into doing some work, which is how the rock Fellers 0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.640 situation was about to happen. But but I knew Jay 0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.480 also aside from the jazz ole when he threw king 0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.160 So I said, we came about Mr Mr C's from 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:34.359 LG Projects, and then Mr C moved in. I think 0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.359 it was just hard to somebody's house right there, People 0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:44.239 to your home, come on family affair story. I'm so 0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:55.040 sorry we spread love shot down the flight. Well, I'm 0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:58.080 getting people that about the high contact because I've seen 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:02.040 people go and I'm like, hey, you know told me, 0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:03.719 you know told me to and I want you to 0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:07.440 finish your story please because fans your fans against all, right, 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.839 But I was actually drinking with Joe Pashi one night. 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:15.960 He wouldn't he just stunning on us right now, you 0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:30.000 didn't just the fans like finish, but he would not 0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.360 let me take a shot without looking at And this 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:37.839 is old school because the nineties, so everybody else from 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.680 Queens moved to Long Island. I was the only fucking 0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:43.360 asshole to moved to Jersey, and so I was, you know, 0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:46.279 I was like Almonkst you know, the tie. For some reason, 0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:48.360 I don't know why, but I always moved next to 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:51.600 the tie of mafia. I'm sorry, but it's always something 0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:56.839 I lived. You look at the Queens, you gotta look 0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:05.839 at I point, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I always take 0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:09.719 a hardcore Italians and and they just went and I say, 0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.600 why why I gotta look out? They said, because in 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.799 the mafia, the person can't look at the eye when 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:16.600 they take a show. If that's the person is gonna 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:20.239 shoot you. And you know, back then it was like that, 0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:24.000 you know what I mean, it's not normal. Yeah, I've 0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.279 been living about that and I've been aiming one. Somebody, 0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:28.160 don't do it. I would say, hey, excuse me, just 0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.359 always look at me, and it's a it's a very 0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:33.880 very fun thing. Well in general, look at you. In 0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:37.920 the period, his reason moved out off, so by the 0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:41.080 time he got to read did reson three? I did, 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:43.880 and I did the Evils. Wait, wait a minute, he 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.160 just three for three and everybody man sucking illmatic and 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:56.640 three yea and you gotta by that time me and 0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:59.880 James Lee does it so well. Um, But I was 0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.120 on WBLS at the time and I was doing radio, 0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:06.520 so Clark Kent brought jay Z up there to let 0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:10.640 me here in my lifetime the single that they remember themselves, 0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:14.040 the original, because they had the one that I can't 0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:16.320 get with that sause money that's I'm met sauce. So 0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:19.279 when they brought it up during my commercial break and 0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:20.799 I heard it, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna play 0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.120 this out out of commercial break. They're like, but you 0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:25.560 just listen to you you don't play it now. I'm like, yeah, 0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.640 open the show with it. Next thing, you know, Jay's like, 0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:30.520 I got something before you get me about the Crystal. 0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:32.439 I didn't know what crystal was because he was still 0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:36.359 drinking ball and he's like, this is the real deal 0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.920 champagne right here. There's a big, big ball of stuff. 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:43.640 I was like, cool one for years and years, say yeah, 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.719 I finally dranking you know that Athos, you know Jane 0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:51.480 on Pumper Crystal. But if we don't, I don't. So yeah, 0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:56.160 so now with the space now, so shop not the best, 0:43:56.320 --> 0:44:03.440 but it's okay. Did I say that the birthday party? 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.040 Um was the first time I tasted his space because 0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.200 JA came to the birthday party and like, I think 0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.319 I've never tastes that. He said, all no, he pot 0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:13.239 brought me a glass and we had slammed down. I'm all, 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.319 whiskey John a Brown look a guy. Whiskey guy. Now 0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:20.800 let me before we get into this into the interview. 0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:25.600 So so Dame approach well, j approached me about us 0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:27.880 since we had had a friendship already, and then he 0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:29.880 inclives me the Dame. I used to see Dame and 0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.800 the Brons walking his dogs all the time. Yeah, he 0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:34.600 always had his dogs and he was walking around cause 0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:36.279 he's gonna see Chubb each other and Steve because he 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:40.839 was aniling and you never Chu Chu dz J Yes, 0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.279 d chump each other from Rental Flavor as it's a 0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:48.479 big DJ in Boston bosses. So so Dames being around 0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.560 there walking the dogs all the time. So we met then, 0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:52.800 but it was just small talk and we were just 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:54.640 you know, everybody knew gangs I was at the time. 0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:57.520 We are we were not enough. So from there, Jay said, 0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.520 this gotta handles the business. So I went doll with him, 0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:03.719 told him how much. I said, because it's Jay, it's 0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.640 all love, I'm only gonna charge you four thousand dollars, 0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:10.040 which was very, very very lucky. And I don't believe 0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:12.120 in luck, but that's a blessing for me to give 0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.319 you that type of number. We went in the back 0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:16.719 and they gave me the cash and I started getting busy. 0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:30.959 Now Jacob and and and just Ja called me and said, 0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.600 I got this song called to he will. He explained 0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:37.760 it to me and oh my god, explained he explained 0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:39.440 it to me. Then he wrapped the whole song on 0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:42.240 the phone. And after he wrapped it on the phone, 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.560 then he gave me the scratch idea and said, I 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.320 what do you mean? He said, I want to? So 0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:51.560 he had it all mapped up. Can you save me? 0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:56.440 Got my mind? Yeah? I can't die. I can't even know, 0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:58.359 he said, make it go. I can't gave you that. Yeah, 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:01.360 he knew that. He knew the same order not to 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.120 sample to make the beat. He just he gave me 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:06.560 the idea of how to He said, this is the atmosphere. 0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.560 I want musically, but I want you to, no matter 0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:12.759 what you make, do these scratches. And I went down there. 0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:14.600 I said, yeah, I'll be ready by time you get there. 0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:16.319 And it was ready when he walked in. I saw 0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:22.680 he picked the rap. That's what I'm saying that he 0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:27.320 samples for the cut. He said, hey, yeah, samples for 0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:32.480 the cut. He picked that already on the Phone's on 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.480 the phone. So so he had that well thought out, 0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:38.479 and you know, so crazy him and Biggie's always later 0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:41.839 cup vocals. And then they both leave and go, all right, 0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:44.640 do the premier thing. And they both said the same thing, 0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:46.719 do the premier thing. When you sit there like, I 0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:49.359 gotta watch you, man, I gotta make sure right, he said, 0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:50.960 do the Premierre thing. We're going out, and they would 0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:52.640 leave and let me just do my thing. I might 0:46:52.680 --> 0:47:00.279 have said in the first drop. You know I'm good now, 0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:07.320 Pete Rock. You established your super producer. You you've done everything, 0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:10.480 you work with the best. What makes you say I 0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:13.560 want to do a whole album? First off, for duck 0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.799 Down before Smoke diesn't because you you did a whole 0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:21.320 He did the last Smith and Western. So if some 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:30.879 survivor too with with ute. Yeah, everybody an the best 0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:35.000 of the you know, it was crazy. And then the 0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:38.279 best labor we're making, say, you know what, I'm gonna 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:41.239 do a whole project with Smith and Wesson. I think 0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:43.840 it was just the r of whing On and it 0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:45.719 just made me say, you know what, Damn, I love 0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:48.080 only and they could do if I could make a 0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:51.120 joint with him. Then I went to Steve with the idea. 0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:54.080 I knew he could make make it happen. You know. 0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:57.200 Then I was on the label they signed me. I 0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:00.480 was like, wow, okay, they one album deal, but I said, no, 0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:03.640 I'm gonna make this one real good what I'm saying. 0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:05.880 And then look, I got the talent of round me. 0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:08.680 Let me just see what's happen. And then boom, I'm 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:11.920 just going to stop thinking it half And now you 0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:14.680 got the joint. It's funny to shoot with me and 0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:18.319 you house strange real clothes with each other, Like are 0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:20.560 we talking strange fruit right now? You know I'm talking. 0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:26.520 We're talking the fat abut John Yeah, the ship on Sufia. 0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:31.960 But you yeah, I had such a great time. Was 0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:36.640 a green studio? Yeah you st yeah, you know you 0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:38.960 need to look at my memory remember I used to 0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:45.080 come of Pete, but that was way down. That was 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:50.160 that was, That was like jamie S friends in my house. Yeah, 0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:54.320 I came in right after that and then talking the 0:48:54.360 --> 0:49:09.320 whole story about the zame. I missed it, but bulleholes 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:11.600 in the wall. It's still in the wall. Goddamn. Let 0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:18.920 from comments. You know. It was a great time and 0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.880 great times with my home. So who was it? It 0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:26.440 was me? Punning comment, Me punning comment. What a combination, 0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:30.680 that's it? Yeah, got real tight, you know what I mean. No, listen, Pete, 0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:32.399 let me just tell you something. We were so hard 0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:38.160 to come back. We had a ball. You ordered pieces 0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:42.560 there's Green Street Studios. I could never forget it because 0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:45.080 you know, Pete showed me and I remember I had 0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:47.759 the card their frames on at that time too, and 0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:50.840 I also and I also had a very important sweater 0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:54.800 on and I Miami. It was called um because this 0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:57.319 is a guy who designed Iceberg. But then he went 0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.120 and did his own thing and I forgot what it 0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:01.880 was called, but it was some fly ship and I 0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.719 bought from about Harbor and I only wore the peat rocks. 0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:15.439 So now you guys, you work with knobs. He worked 0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:18.080 with jail. Have you ever worked the bad You never 0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:20.680 worked a bad um. He's been to my crib if 0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:25.000 he was picking my inn the loud beats, He's like, 0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:27.840 you know, and then you know he heard the idea 0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:31.040 of juicy in my base. You know, came with the 0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:33.080 one that brought Big to the to my house. You 0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:38.759 know we are from Puffers from Della Avenue and my 0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:42.319 Nion and go up Big to a crib and he's 0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:44.200 just like, hell Big, He's like, yeah, I just want 0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:47.360 to see how you make a beat. And then I 0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:50.160 made the speak called U that's a song called in 0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:53.000 the Flesh on the Maining Green, and I made that. 0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:58.040 He wanted it, you know, but it didn't happen somehow, 0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:00.960 but I ended up using it one album. But he 0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:04.080 was there and saw the process. But would now describe 0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:07.480 that because now you know profits from around Burner, so 0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:10.279 you look at him like a pair. But now do 0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:12.560 you do you realize that this guy that he just 0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:16.279 broke to your studio is the most legendary person in 0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:18.960 the world. Already you knew, you do already. The area 0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.399 was there because I think Buff came on the show 0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:24.319 and he was scribing Big as disrupted like his look 0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.640 was dead. Yeah, did you get that feeling when I 0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:29.800 didn't even pay attention to that? I was skilled. I 0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:35.279 was about to scare Holy rap, I got to beat 0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:39.040 the match. No mean, let's get something poppets. But he 0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:42.160 heard the idea of juicy and just you know, I 0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:45.160 didn't actually do that actual rigiment. I didn't ended up 0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:47.799 doing the remix, and that was the only thing. You mean, 0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:51.759 big Gun. But you know, if you know he did 0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:56.080 pick beats, you know he just didn't need a chance star. Yeah, 0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:58.560 he knew what he wanted to wrap to. Yeah, he 0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:02.799 was now premo. Um, how did you first meet there? 0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:07.160 I met big Um when we moved back to Brooklyn's 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:10.600 for Green when we're living with Branford, looking a lot 0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:14.480 of rough places. Yea, yeah, we were just this falk 0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:20.359 grady when when brand Valley officially moved out and went 0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:23.880 to California, we turned this place into a frad house 0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:30.279 party house. Rizzon was like Washington between had in Green 0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:34.319 and Brooklyn. Yeah, Brooke, it's old school Brooklyn. Yeah, that's 0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:39.680 not yet so that you get killed every other store, 0:52:41.080 --> 0:52:45.279 think it's shot coming out. He's like that, this is 0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:48.399 you that was to shoot him up corner and it's 0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:51.360 not this is not this is not um the vegans, No, 0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:56.480 this is this is hipster, hipster for old English. One 0:52:56.520 --> 0:53:00.640 of you know, let's get to this is when Biggie 0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:04.560 wore the same green, because when Biggie the Biggie one 0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:07.720 the same green, all me jacking and the sleeves about 0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:13.480 the right. So but board all the time I knew 0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:18.520 Needo Chico sees Kim, they bring you this guy no missing. 0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:21.520 I gotta give him to see the credit when he's 0:53:21.520 --> 0:53:24.799 from the beginning with he was annoying me like yo, 0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:28.440 he wouldn't know I g yet he was Biggie Smalls 0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:31.400 and and every somebody else had Biggie small so that 0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:33.520 he just yeah, man, But um, I used to do 0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:35.160 a lot of shoulder Kane, and there was time that 0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:38.840 I couldn't. My turntables got damaged. Back then you carried 0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:45.920 your equipment on tour and uh j he want he 0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:49.960 wanted to still bring his you Mr c let me 0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:53.600 his turntables right before Kane took the stage. So the 0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:56.440 gang Stalker performed so well again. He lived right down 0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:57.880 the block for all the weeks when I said, we 0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:00.239 knew and so you gotta go out and to see house. 0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:03.040 And in the dope weak spots right there, the new one, 0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:06.480 the one is like on that was dead one, so 0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:13.080 the nice Franklin av So then during that time, Mrs 0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:16.879 Steves a calming, go Prem Biggie small, Biggie small. I'm like, see, 0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:19.000 I'm gonna listen to it, like, just give me some 0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:22.960 time weeks past, yo, Prem, Biggie small. That's why I'm like, yo, 0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:26.600 see before unsun hype. Yeah right yeah, just Biggie small, 0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:28.600 Biggie small, thig. I'm like, dude, I'm gonna listen to 0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:30.840 it because we're pretty busy that that time. I read it. 0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:33.480 One day, I listened to it, liked it like the 0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:35.920 demos that I heard. And then I met Big on 0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:37.640 the corner. I was going to the corner store me 0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:40.920 Google Big Sugar Dad, and Dad was in love with 0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:44.279 little Kim and little him like yeah yeah, yeah kind 0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:51.040 of yea, yeah, I'm never got the bunny that's to 0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:56.759 this very day. Yeah, and that's family. Melkolako got locked 0:54:56.760 --> 0:55:00.560 before many's homes. Welcome Melancho. You know we all connect 0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:02.200 to me, j Rue. All of us is still good. 0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:06.440 So uh So, then Big was like, yo, she she 0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:08.640 told you. He told me he's been stressing you. I 0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:11.279 was like, yeah, family heard it. I said, we gotta 0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:13.960 get something in. And then he goes Joe Puffings and 0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:16.560 this is what he said, puffings interesting and signing me. 0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:22.560 So this is how far back up too, they said, 0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:24.719 Puffers addressing and sign him. I said, dude, go with him. 0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:27.719 And I said, puff Puff not only has money, he 0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:30.200 got a vision. He's gonna blow you up. He said, 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:31.880 we I don't know, man, you know, I want to 0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:34.360 keep his hood. I'm like, yo, he don't want to 0:55:34.360 --> 0:55:36.439 go with go with puff, you know. And then boom, 0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:39.120 next thing you know, Puff started coming around. And actually 0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:42.160 I tell people this Puff was the first one. I'm sorry, 0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:47.239 I'm because Puff is the first. Remember his stick? Yeah? 0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:50.000 But so what was the first? Making? You actually worked 0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:57.400 on a little big Unbelievable. This is actually what trigger. 0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:01.440 This is what trickled. That was a single trickled down 0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:04.480 into why I gave jay Z and them the price 0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:11.640 for lower price, for reasonable doubt. Because when we did Unbelievable, duh, 0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:15.759 the the budget had run out for Big and I 0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:17.640 told Big, I don't have time to make a beat. 0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:20.000 And he goes Joe, I got five thousand dollars. I 0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:24.800 was like, you know, but we were already cool with 0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:27.239 each other, but I felt weird telling them no. But 0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:29.120 I really didn't have the time, and I'm a person. 0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:32.040 Then Pete'll tell you this. I make the beat on 0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:35.480 the spot. And now that's something that people don't realize. 0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:37.279 I don't have like twenty beats and go you'll pick one, 0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:44.239 like take number six and number before and that they 0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:46.040 said that that's what they do. They make it to 0:56:46.160 --> 0:56:49.080 the artist. So I didn't have nothing for big that 0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:50.440 was dope. You know a lot of people like, you know, 0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:52.399 come on, man, I know you've got something like I don't, 0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:54.920 I really don't. You come here, we can make it 0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:58.120 big old, I don't care if you taking pizza president 0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:01.080 and just some funny staff sounds, and you know he 0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:04.640 knew the slip slap. Yeah, and you know what staff 0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:07.759 was what we say in production in the production era. 0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:10.280 So he said, I don't care if it's some staff, 0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:14.000 that's our word. So coming up tonight, then that's what happened. 0:57:14.000 --> 0:57:16.880 He comes up. I'll take the five thousand, I said, 0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:19.520 but if you get a deal and you go platinum, 0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:25.160 I want thirty five thousand dollars per track. After after 0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:31.160 him going by the way, we did the song crazy 0:57:31.320 --> 0:57:35.880 and there's ninety five. He comes in, we do the song. 0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:39.600 It becomes the B side of Juicy. It was like 0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:43.280 the Street singles was my first gold singles. All that. Wow. 0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:45.800 As soon as he got the deal to up the money. 0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:48.600 I remember he goes, Joe, I got to check for it. 0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:50.840 He said thirty five right, he said, I got. I 0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:54.000 got two of them, brought me to check and Puffy 0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:56.160 gave me the checking out. Like wow, he kept his word. 0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:59.160 Oh so this wasn't on paper this word. It was 0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:06.200 like handshake ship. Yeah, that's big, d You learned so 0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:11.520 much hip hop history getting dirty back then. No, that's 0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:17.280 the best triple. That's ninety Let me ask you because 0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:21.680 you um, the reputation is like the most hip hop 0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:25.280 of hip hop. But now Janet Jackson, you work with 0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:32.080 Janet Jackson, you work with Christine Million, work did you 0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:37.560 work with Britney Spirits as well? So just crazy as 0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:40.320 a hip hop producing you get this call, What is 0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:43.320 your first thing to say for Christina? Yeah, because you 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:45.760 know that that wasn't hurt dude, that put her onto 0:58:45.840 --> 0:58:48.200 her ex husband Jordy had put her on some of 0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:50.520 my stuff, but she liked it, so she called me 0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:52.480 and go, Joe, I just heard the group home out. 0:58:52.680 --> 0:59:02.200 Oh that's not what Christine. She just heard. I met 0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:05.360 the Shateau Mama down the hill on sunset, you kind 0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:15.320 of front mama shot in Germany, shout to my mom's 0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:17.200 with a lot of a lot of wigs, big wigs, 0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:22.440 lamp and drinking and getting enough money. Because it's right 0:59:22.480 --> 0:59:24.920 down the hill. It's right before tower, like right after you. 0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:27.680 That's Tower Records or any little little big Tower Records 0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:30.040 right now. And it's got a big knee on side 0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:32.040 and shot to mama with bushes so you can't really 0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:35.760 see the spot. And she said, my rolls Royce is outside. 0:59:35.840 --> 0:59:38.800 I saw the white the white fantom. I said, she's here, 0:59:39.360 --> 0:59:41.560 walk in. She's sitting there with Jordy. She goes, so 0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:48.360 I love group, like that's pin point group. The Grimy 0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:54.080 is out there like this like the jazz samples that 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:57.840 used on some of the games. So she liked. She 0:59:58.000 --> 1:00:03.800 liked jazz Thing't she like work? She like, yeah, she said, 1:00:03.920 --> 1:00:06.280 works like you know my steeds. Even though that was 1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:10.000 but the song she was naming with joints, like, wow, 1:00:10.440 --> 1:00:12.480 if that attracted you don't want to work with me, 1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:16.280 let's go in. And then we ended up we'repoth do 1:00:16.360 --> 1:00:18.560 one record, which was called We called back in the day. 1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:20.920 Next thing you know, she was like, y'all stay here 1:00:20.920 --> 1:00:22.680 a couple more weeks and we just started banging out 1:00:22.680 --> 1:00:24.960 and turned into five records. And then that was the 1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:27.680 first Grammy I ever got for a single. Whereas you know, 1:00:27.800 --> 1:00:29.400 not for the for being on the al I gotta 1:00:29.400 --> 1:00:32.000 Grammy for the Angelo being working on the album and 1:00:32.040 --> 1:00:34.080 for jay Z on how Not Life, but to get 1:00:34.120 --> 1:00:37.600 one for the single is singles out all the other 1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:39.840 songs on the album. It's like, for that one song, 1:00:40.000 --> 1:00:42.560 you gotta gramm me. So that was a big monument 1:00:42.840 --> 1:00:49.720 with my career. It's dope. It was that goddamn it. Now, 1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:54.160 who was it that you said you work with him, 1:00:54.760 --> 1:00:57.360 but you wanted to see them right to Rob in 1:00:57.640 --> 1:01:02.680 the big face Tom it was somebody I forget. I'll 1:01:02.760 --> 1:01:04.360 work with him, but I want to see them right 1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:06.120 the rock, right the rock. I think it was like 1:01:06.200 --> 1:01:12.400 a Justin Bieber all right, yeah, you know the sipher 1:01:13.040 --> 1:01:16.280 what I've been doing. We didn't know the speer for 1:01:16.400 --> 1:01:19.320 BT hip hop was gonna even get this big. It 1:01:19.440 --> 1:01:23.320 was an idea. Shot to Jesse Collins, and congratulations to 1:01:23.400 --> 1:01:27.360 Jesse Collins for doing real well with a new edition story. 1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:29.760 That was his idea and it blew up and did 1:01:30.080 --> 1:01:32.480 really really well their big numbers. And Jesse's a good 1:01:32.520 --> 1:01:35.280 friend of mine. We argue and fight a lot over 1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:37.480 no it's wrong if you do it this way, you 1:01:37.560 --> 1:01:39.480 know it's right if you do it this way. We 1:01:39.640 --> 1:01:41.240 fight a lot, but he's such a good friend that 1:01:41.360 --> 1:01:44.040 we always find a compromise. When he brought up the 1:01:44.120 --> 1:01:45.919 idea of during the site for it was a one 1:01:46.040 --> 1:01:52.000 time thing. It was Papoose Styles, p Remy um, who 1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:55.480 else was in it? Um rom Fest And then there 1:01:55.560 --> 1:01:58.240 was a second one and those two I couldn't make 1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:00.120 it because I was on tour, so I had they 1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:01.840 scratched fill in for me. I just gave him the 1:02:01.880 --> 1:02:04.840 beat and said, let's keep it break beat. Only you 1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:07.040 know because something now that's they elevate. If you're like, yo, man, 1:02:07.080 --> 1:02:08.440 I need them to turn up to It's like, no, 1:02:09.200 --> 1:02:10.880 this is the pure form of how we're doing with 1:02:11.000 --> 1:02:13.120 keeping the breaking Are you a producer on my pick 1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:15.680 specific thing. I picked the beat a loop it, I'll 1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:18.680 do it maybe four James Brown loop break beat from Ultimate, 1:02:18.680 --> 1:02:21.360 Breaks the Beach, whatever, and I'll send those and whatever. 1:02:21.400 --> 1:02:23.439 One Jesse's like, yeah, I like this one. We'll clear 1:02:23.520 --> 1:02:25.880 it with whoever owned it, and then we'll send it 1:02:25.960 --> 1:02:29.440 to all the artists and we tell them sixteen bars 1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:32.880 and quick, so anybody's got ninety bars everything, And it's 1:02:32.920 --> 1:02:35.560 like they never follow the rules, and then they get mad, like, yo, 1:02:35.640 --> 1:02:38.160 they edited my stuff. It's like, no, he told you 1:02:38.280 --> 1:02:42.160 sixteen and quit and again it was one time. Only 1:02:42.680 --> 1:02:45.680 second year comes around over the set cipher, they're like, 1:02:45.840 --> 1:02:48.120 we want to do it again. Now that they've got 1:02:48.200 --> 1:02:51.880 three ciphers. Then that turn in the Forthsifer's after that. 1:02:52.440 --> 1:02:54.520 Now it's starting to get ciphers where they're starting to 1:02:54.560 --> 1:02:57.280 put a lot of artists that I'm like, na, na, 1:02:57.560 --> 1:03:00.240 they can't rhyme, don't put them in there. And it's 1:03:00.280 --> 1:03:03.000 going into that stage of it now it's like whether 1:03:03.040 --> 1:03:07.000 they're popular, they're no more known than the skilled them. See, 1:03:07.120 --> 1:03:09.400 I'm like, yeah, but if you're taking away the skill, 1:03:09.680 --> 1:03:13.480 that that causes problems with the authenticity. And that's where 1:03:13.480 --> 1:03:16.640 I have a problem because I wanted to stay aft ending. Yeah, 1:03:16.720 --> 1:03:18.800 but all the fans love them, and they're on TV 1:03:18.920 --> 1:03:21.400 and they're on every video, and he's other guys. Nobody's 1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:23.840 being attention to them, Like, well, you know what, They're 1:03:23.840 --> 1:03:25.480 gonna pay attention to some when they see how dope 1:03:25.520 --> 1:03:29.600 they speach beat. So we always have that fight. One year, 1:03:30.560 --> 1:03:32.640 they said, Yo, what do you think of Justin Bieber 1:03:32.760 --> 1:03:34.919 spitting on the side? I said, I don't know, can 1:03:35.040 --> 1:03:38.440 with it as long as he writes the round, and 1:03:38.520 --> 1:03:41.480 if it's a dope round, let's do. He said, what 1:03:41.600 --> 1:03:46.360 if somebody else rights there? I said, no, blew into 1:03:46.400 --> 1:03:51.360 it with the rumors being saying that I mentioned this 1:03:51.440 --> 1:03:54.920 person this person. No, it was just that simple. If 1:03:55.080 --> 1:03:57.280 he's gonna do it, let him spit. And and so 1:03:57.440 --> 1:04:00.800 the next thing you know, it's like next he's going 1:04:00.880 --> 1:04:03.200 to turn to the whole campaign is showing him spitting 1:04:03.360 --> 1:04:06.000 versus on radio stations and all that, and I'm like, yo, 1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:08.680 I work with Justin Bieber. As long as it's authentic, 1:04:09.200 --> 1:04:11.040 let's rock. I don't care if it's just people, I 1:04:11.040 --> 1:04:14.120 don't care if it's Mary Poppins. If it's authentic, let's rock. 1:04:14.240 --> 1:04:18.200 That's how important is that's? You, guys, very important problem 1:04:18.240 --> 1:04:22.160 with that. I was like, yes, but just you wanted 1:04:22.240 --> 1:04:24.160 him to write that, yeah, And they didn't say that 1:04:24.200 --> 1:04:26.280 he wasn't gonna write. They say, what if he doesn't, 1:04:26.400 --> 1:04:28.800 And I'm like that No, it's he shows on the 1:04:28.840 --> 1:04:32.120 blog d the premier bands justin peoples like, how could 1:04:32.320 --> 1:04:34.480 I banned nobody? Because if it was my ciphers, You're 1:04:34.480 --> 1:04:39.320 gonna see Kane there, the Rock, Kim there, d I T. 1:04:39.520 --> 1:04:42.360 C during the whole cipher with a G and Diamond 1:04:42.440 --> 1:04:44.760 and and and the old see and all of them. 1:04:44.800 --> 1:04:48.760 It's gonna be people like that, you know, because he 1:04:48.920 --> 1:04:53.120 was you see one shady cipher it was eminem you know, 1:04:53.200 --> 1:04:58.600 people with skills them Royce, Joe buden Uh crooking eyes skills. 1:04:58.960 --> 1:05:01.760 Know how important is that for you? For you guys, 1:05:01.880 --> 1:05:04.959 You guys, I have the integrity. You guys are top 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:07.520 of the line of producers when it when we're speaking 1:05:07.600 --> 1:05:11.200 real rail wild hip hop, you guys name has to 1:05:11.280 --> 1:05:14.960 be brought up now. Is Is it ever a time 1:05:15.720 --> 1:05:19.280 where you sit back and say, you know, I'm gonna 1:05:19.320 --> 1:05:22.000 do it for the money this time, or you say 1:05:22.760 --> 1:05:26.840 I'm gonna always stay who I am always say, and 1:05:26.960 --> 1:05:35.040 I've been tempted. A good example, but it's in our 1:05:35.120 --> 1:05:38.200 hearts today passionate about when we do man do it 1:05:38.320 --> 1:05:41.280 for the love saying it's like it's just that's who 1:05:41.320 --> 1:05:47.040 we are. Staying on was a good example because when 1:05:47.120 --> 1:05:50.160 my manager kept pressing me to do it Patrick Marxy 1:05:50.240 --> 1:05:52.760 at the time, I was like nah, because I said, 1:05:52.800 --> 1:05:55.000 Fred Dust can't wrap it in my eyes on the 1:05:55.120 --> 1:05:57.600 level of what people, I don't want my fans going 1:05:57.720 --> 1:06:00.280 damn Preme you work with him and and I like 1:06:00.480 --> 1:06:03.040 left Biscuit for what they do, but if you're gonna 1:06:03.040 --> 1:06:05.360 get with me, that's not what you do. And that's 1:06:05.400 --> 1:06:07.680 to get a lot more inkor you know what I'm saying. 1:06:08.680 --> 1:06:11.960 And that's the bottom line. They go, well method man 1:06:12.120 --> 1:06:14.600 is on the song. I said, oh word, I said, 1:06:14.640 --> 1:06:16.800 then send me the rough. He sent me the rough 1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:19.080 and Metho was on and I was like, then, okay, 1:06:19.160 --> 1:06:21.760 then I'll do it. And it was a big check, 1:06:22.040 --> 1:06:24.480 a huge check. He was one of the biggest checks 1:06:24.520 --> 1:06:28.400 I've ever gotten. So the good thing I liked about 1:06:28.440 --> 1:06:31.480 fred Durst was he called me and said I need 1:06:31.560 --> 1:06:34.320 to talk to train and he was just becoming one 1:06:34.360 --> 1:06:37.400 of the new executives that Interscope with Jimmy Ivien and 1:06:37.640 --> 1:06:41.120 he said, yo, man, this is recently when we were 1:06:41.520 --> 1:06:44.280 back when when they popping and we were doing but 1:06:44.400 --> 1:06:47.400 he had respect for what. Yeah, and we had a 1:06:47.480 --> 1:06:50.320 dope conversation and it was to the point he said, 1:06:50.360 --> 1:06:52.320 the best you can get out of me, I'll do it. 1:06:52.400 --> 1:06:55.080 He came to D and D and he tried. He 1:06:55.240 --> 1:07:00.480 tried with nobody, nobody got no, nothing, and they were 1:07:00.520 --> 1:07:02.840 big at the time. This is a sex second album 1:07:03.640 --> 1:07:05.800 and he was like, Yo, get the best you can 1:07:05.840 --> 1:07:07.000 get out of me. I don't care if you don't 1:07:07.040 --> 1:07:08.960 like it. Whatever, I'll do it. And he that was 1:07:08.960 --> 1:07:11.440 the best I can get what's on the song. But 1:07:11.760 --> 1:07:13.480 the fact he put the effort in. I like the 1:07:13.480 --> 1:07:15.480 fact he put in the effort and he knocked it out. 1:07:15.800 --> 1:07:17.479 Next thing, you know, he said, Yo, we're doing a video. 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:20.720 Flew us out. We had a big video shoot. We 1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:22.960 had a good time and it was just just a 1:07:23.080 --> 1:07:25.240 really really fun session and and me and Me and 1:07:25.320 --> 1:07:28.480 Fred were cool after them. Before the thing is today 1:07:28.560 --> 1:07:31.480 you guys mentioned Dwick and we didn't go back to 1:07:31.560 --> 1:07:36.040 do it because Troy is one of the biggest ever 1:07:36.200 --> 1:07:39.400 be and it's one of the biggest hip hop records. 1:07:40.680 --> 1:07:45.040 We need to hear. We need to hear the story 1:07:45.240 --> 1:07:49.040 of Dwicks. The only reason why Dwick happened, because that's 1:07:49.040 --> 1:07:51.560 all of our summer anthems. By the way, like we 1:07:51.720 --> 1:07:54.360 all the Nicest Mood did a song called on the End, 1:07:54.560 --> 1:07:57.000 Ain't a damn thing change called down the Line. It 1:07:57.120 --> 1:07:59.000 was with a whole bunch of mcs bass blast big 1:07:59.080 --> 1:08:00.960 up to him, a whole bunch of Auto MC he said, 1:08:01.000 --> 1:08:04.640 bass blaster, yeah from Connecticut, including and shout the ray 1:08:04.720 --> 1:08:07.760 pouncey and uh ray Pousse and uh and then uh, 1:08:08.000 --> 1:08:10.240 Google's also on it. He said, I want to loop 1:08:10.320 --> 1:08:12.880 the Manifest beat into my home version because a lot 1:08:12.880 --> 1:08:15.120 of people don't know most of the nicest move hits. 1:08:15.280 --> 1:08:18.800 Greg Knights does all the beats. Yeah, wow, I didn't 1:08:18.800 --> 1:08:21.800 know that. I've seen him doing. He he for all 1:08:21.840 --> 1:08:38.080 that stuff, hippop, John Kies every every yeah, sorry, all 1:08:38.120 --> 1:08:40.920 that kicking wicked rounds like a fort time had a 1:08:41.000 --> 1:08:44.280 dog on this old Yeah, he did all that stuff. Yeah, 1:08:44.400 --> 1:08:50.720 the knife for me to make him right now like 1:08:55.600 --> 1:08:59.360 Punky bu all that stuff. Lets plays at. I know 1:08:59.400 --> 1:09:01.640 he doesn't play a tax remember brand from myself and 1:09:02.120 --> 1:09:06.360 played a fucking sack. It worked a little to Max. 1:09:06.439 --> 1:09:09.160 You know, he did all those beats so is a 1:09:09.240 --> 1:09:15.800 dope beat making. Yeah, so he took the Manifest instrumental 1:09:15.920 --> 1:09:18.639 May the beat. And all we were doing was because 1:09:18.640 --> 1:09:21.599 we just hang tough. It was nicest fool gangstar riding 1:09:21.600 --> 1:09:24.320 a d train. We go to the castle which was 1:09:24.439 --> 1:09:27.200 grimy and the bronze and this was when they had 1:09:27.200 --> 1:09:28.880 to shoot. That was like Greg all that time, like 1:09:29.000 --> 1:09:33.880 we were around all that stuff. Boom, next thing, you know. Uh, 1:09:34.320 --> 1:09:36.080 we we said, well, let's return the favor into a 1:09:36.160 --> 1:09:38.479 record fuss. So that's all. It was, just y'all do 1:09:38.560 --> 1:09:39.960 one for us. We're gonna do one for you. Hunt 1:09:40.680 --> 1:09:42.360 that's doing on there. That's why it was the B 1:09:42.600 --> 1:09:44.840 side and it wasn't on the album. I remember people 1:09:44.840 --> 1:09:47.280 are like, oh yeah, y'all left you off the albums, Like, nah, 1:09:47.439 --> 1:09:49.479 the album was already done. We're just doing it for fun, 1:09:49.840 --> 1:09:55.000 right we was, and that became a huge right now. 1:09:55.040 --> 1:09:56.760 We didn't know it's gonna be the huge. We're just 1:09:56.840 --> 1:10:03.240 doing it in I remember you'd be shout, yeah, I know, 1:10:03.640 --> 1:10:06.960 shout to dub C. He was there. Aren't you related 1:10:07.000 --> 1:10:09.240 to to somebody on the west like that. No, we're 1:10:09.280 --> 1:10:11.120 just good friends. We're just good friend. But you did 1:10:11.120 --> 1:10:13.400 album m c A recently. Yeah, that's coming out of 1:10:13.479 --> 1:10:18.519 huh and that's a track let's go back and most wanted. 1:10:19.080 --> 1:10:21.760 He did two of the uh theme records for Boys 1:10:21.800 --> 1:10:24.760 in the Hood. He did and he did She's on 1:10:24.840 --> 1:10:29.040 my own everybody side, So yeah, we haven't we haven't 1:10:29.040 --> 1:10:32.240 out hit, we haven't want hite. We have which way 1:10:32.280 --> 1:10:35.160 is west camera that's coming soon and also think about 1:10:37.040 --> 1:10:43.560 yeah yet out of the connoss and we you know, 1:10:44.000 --> 1:10:48.080 people know uh and then uh shout to Tory Wolf 1:10:48.200 --> 1:10:50.720 and also shout to Miguel. We have a single out 1:10:50.840 --> 1:10:54.439 right now called to Loving You. Now. What happened was 1:10:54.520 --> 1:10:58.559 where we wherehere we do wick so dub she was there. Wow, 1:10:58.680 --> 1:11:04.439 that's Don Aaron from the Masses of Sundre. Yeah, because 1:11:04.479 --> 1:11:06.160 he was a good friends with Greg Night. Question though, 1:11:06.640 --> 1:11:09.400 how did the horny version happen? To the wick I 1:11:09.520 --> 1:11:11.960 was just doing that, just sucking out and to the 1:11:12.040 --> 1:11:19.640 horny version, horny version but as a vocal version had 1:11:19.640 --> 1:11:21.639 a glitch. And remember you when you go to dad 1:11:22.080 --> 1:11:29.200 the dada. So when we bounced, we stay quiet, let 1:11:29.280 --> 1:11:36.240 them and had to remember glitches we couldn't. I was like, 1:11:36.280 --> 1:11:38.640 we can't put it out like that's why I just 1:11:38.680 --> 1:11:41.479 put the instrumental on that on the B side of 1:11:41.520 --> 1:11:55.679 A twelve. Wow. When did y'all know you had something 1:11:55.760 --> 1:11:59.080 with Dwick? Like, I mean immediately when that ship came 1:11:59.080 --> 1:12:01.760 out when we finishing it was crazy because like I said, 1:12:02.120 --> 1:12:05.720 dove C is from the West Coast, wearing scullies all 1:12:06.080 --> 1:12:14.040 in the heat of its connection and and khakis and 1:12:14.240 --> 1:12:16.519 and Pendleton's all hot and I'm just like, yo, you 1:12:16.600 --> 1:12:19.000 ain't hotting all that stuff, because that's how it is 1:12:19.040 --> 1:12:20.960 in the West Coast. And that's how I learned about 1:12:20.960 --> 1:12:24.200 the West Coast. It was night nine. Master As had 1:12:24.280 --> 1:12:27.920 just joined our states was heavy doing the car show 1:12:28.000 --> 1:12:30.080 stuff on the web. I knew Sun Night already back 1:12:30.120 --> 1:12:38.920 then nine he was and he was hanging over. So 1:12:38.960 --> 1:12:41.160 I was there with J J Fan, the n w 1:12:41.360 --> 1:12:43.640 A all that stuff, Me and He's he came to 1:12:43.720 --> 1:12:46.400 the first Gang Star release party in nineteen eighty nine 1:12:49.760 --> 1:12:54.559 with the kids. Yeah, rescipes, So we met them back 1:12:54.560 --> 1:12:57.519 in eighty nine, so you know the dove C to 1:12:57.600 --> 1:13:00.600 be there back then. That shows we go to and 1:13:00.720 --> 1:13:04.439 recipes or his brother who passed on January. Now Ice Cubes, DJ, 1:13:04.920 --> 1:13:09.519 Crazy Tunes, that stuff. When we set them off right here, 1:13:09.560 --> 1:13:15.080 we had an incredible homegoing service and family man, seeing 1:13:15.080 --> 1:13:17.479 all these west goes on from King t and then 1:13:17.520 --> 1:13:20.840 seeing you know, Chuck dn l L then and everybody 1:13:20.920 --> 1:13:24.639 and and you know, just every artist and hip hop family. 1:13:25.720 --> 1:13:28.320 It was so packed in and they just did it right, 1:13:28.400 --> 1:13:30.439 you know what I'm saying, playing dope music in the church, 1:13:30.840 --> 1:13:33.400 playing flashlight and doing a whole college of all the 1:13:33.439 --> 1:13:36.600 people he's been around on a video screen. And and 1:13:36.800 --> 1:13:39.160 and then even when it did to everybody's got a 1:13:39.280 --> 1:13:42.960 little signed the show tunes, throwing up the w looking 1:13:43.000 --> 1:13:45.679 up to the style with it with clouds and wings 1:13:45.760 --> 1:13:48.439 and all that stuff. And I was like, yeah, yeah, 1:13:48.520 --> 1:13:58.639 you see, No, he's trying to get two year fifty. 1:13:59.240 --> 1:14:02.320 You're very smart about how you do things on TV. 1:14:13.720 --> 1:14:17.120 Welcome to play It, a new podcast network featuring radio 1:14:17.200 --> 1:14:21.360 and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. 1:14:21.680 --> 1:14:26.160 Play it at play dot It. We're back to Drink 1:14:26.280 --> 1:14:30.080 Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d Jes. Then 1:14:32.200 --> 1:14:35.040 we are with two of the best producers of Walls, 1:14:35.479 --> 1:14:38.760 the best in my best and um, I'm going to 1:14:38.880 --> 1:14:41.880 celebrate you guys life, hey man, which I'm gonna get 1:14:41.920 --> 1:14:45.880 to I can't believe, like I continue, I gotta come 1:14:45.960 --> 1:14:53.040 back and a little black because it's is. This guy 1:14:53.360 --> 1:14:57.519 is a vinal guy. He's a real hip hop person. 1:14:58.640 --> 1:15:03.000 I am hip hop persons. For us to come together 1:15:03.600 --> 1:15:07.840 and want to commemorate hip hop, salute hip hop, and 1:15:07.920 --> 1:15:10.360 for it to get twenty five million. Shout to Revolt 1:15:10.439 --> 1:15:19.360 Man for big. I'm CBS, TBS, CBS first, your boys 1:15:19.360 --> 1:15:28.400 been and they're coming home, all coming crazy. When you go, 1:15:28.600 --> 1:15:31.280 you go to l A, you gotta prepare. Know. I'm 1:15:31.320 --> 1:15:36.000 doing screening screening at the l A Film School March ninth, 1:15:36.560 --> 1:15:40.839 but March on Revolt As is the premier Coming Home Vietnam. 1:15:41.120 --> 1:15:43.880 I'm going to different countries and exploring hip hop different. 1:15:45.439 --> 1:15:48.160 The dope thing is, I've been watching Drink Champs for 1:15:48.240 --> 1:15:53.519 a minute. You don't feel like I've been checking on 1:15:53.640 --> 1:15:57.920 Drink for a minute. And Uh, it's just ill how 1:15:59.120 --> 1:16:02.799 how the two of y'all are from really different, totally 1:16:02.880 --> 1:16:06.240 different direction. I've known Nori from the streets, like we've 1:16:06.280 --> 1:16:11.599 been streating for so long I've seen him elevate from 1:16:12.400 --> 1:16:17.400 the street level of ramen to the sharper version of 1:16:17.479 --> 1:16:20.679 writing rhymes. Even when you and Bubby had jump drama 1:16:20.760 --> 1:16:23.320 and then we end up doing a record together and 1:16:23.640 --> 1:16:26.840 me together. And even when that happened, it wasn't even 1:16:26.920 --> 1:16:28.759 if this he was just like, yo, I'm a band 1:16:28.840 --> 1:16:31.519 of Nori. He did want him to elevate it ROMs 1:16:31.520 --> 1:16:36.040 because I'm a band and where everybody knows Freddie Fox 1:16:36.200 --> 1:16:40.840 and being where he is more into. There's certain people 1:16:40.880 --> 1:16:44.040 he's attracted to for what they represented, and he loves 1:16:44.120 --> 1:16:47.439 Noria and and more than this MC as a person, 1:16:48.040 --> 1:16:50.439 he's a big, big fan of you. Pick him up. 1:16:51.120 --> 1:16:53.800 Pick him up because he pushed me. He told me 1:16:53.840 --> 1:16:56.080 from the beginning of like if he had mentioned my 1:16:56.160 --> 1:16:58.400 name and the record, he told me, like, I just 1:16:58.840 --> 1:17:01.000 I don't want you to say what but I'm gonna 1:17:01.040 --> 1:17:06.800 be honest keep it when I would call it super thug, 1:17:07.320 --> 1:17:12.200 all right, That's how I used to count bars. I 1:17:12.320 --> 1:17:14.400 used to say what what what what? What? What? What? 1:17:15.200 --> 1:17:19.920 He said, what what what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? Three? 1:17:20.120 --> 1:17:22.599 Because I'm from the resource from you know what I'm 1:17:22.600 --> 1:17:31.400 saying education, I told for real, I said, they're gonna 1:17:31.520 --> 1:17:35.439 laughing me. He said, that's the hook. But he was 1:17:35.479 --> 1:17:39.960 a genius. He was because was take out the ones 1:17:40.479 --> 1:17:43.519 like when I said what what what what? What? What wanted? 1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:46.760 All he did was muted and then so that I 1:17:46.880 --> 1:17:50.880 gotta give it to the real Yeah, he muted that. 1:17:51.320 --> 1:17:53.880 So now when you listen to it, you're here and 1:17:54.000 --> 1:17:56.640 you say what what what? What? What? What? What? What? 1:17:58.120 --> 1:18:00.680 Just but yeah, this day you don't even gotta go 1:18:00.680 --> 1:18:05.479 to the verse that tears the club. Yeah, was important. 1:18:06.240 --> 1:18:09.080 And when I was trying to say was when I 1:18:09.320 --> 1:18:12.960 did it, I felt what Buppy felt. That's why I 1:18:13.560 --> 1:18:16.880 took it personal, because I felt I told for I 1:18:16.960 --> 1:18:20.800 said it for brow all we need is hard. I said, 1:18:20.880 --> 1:18:22.799 all we need is because, you know, for the research. 1:18:23.520 --> 1:18:26.680 So you know, I'm sorry. I used to tell up 1:18:26.840 --> 1:18:30.160 and he said relax. We didn't say relaxed, but in 1:18:30.240 --> 1:18:37.640 my mind and I would never forget that we were 1:18:37.680 --> 1:18:45.920 in right track recording studios. But this chain was choking him, choker, 1:18:47.120 --> 1:18:51.000 like you gotta release because it was just so tight 1:18:51.080 --> 1:18:58.000 on this click. I love him, Hello, who knows for real? 1:18:58.600 --> 1:19:03.600 I'm very upset, but I love you and me and 1:19:03.720 --> 1:19:09.439 Mr Lead Chicks. So I remember, I'm going upstairs. What 1:19:09.560 --> 1:19:12.560 I saying, You remember right track? Remember right? So I 1:19:12.680 --> 1:19:14.720 what I'm saying, and I said, all we need is 1:19:14.800 --> 1:19:17.120 the hook and were good. He said we got the 1:19:17.200 --> 1:19:20.200 hook already, and I looked at him. I was like, 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:24.360 because I had previously did that every other record before. 1:19:24.479 --> 1:19:27.800 Then we got mad. But Joe, the first time I 1:19:27.800 --> 1:19:31.840 ever heard you do a y and just the whole 1:19:31.920 --> 1:19:35.760 blah blah, my wife, it's like, that's your stands. No 1:19:35.880 --> 1:19:39.000 one knows that your owner. But that's the reason why 1:19:39.040 --> 1:19:43.600 I gotta give it, because he was the nigger like 1:19:43.720 --> 1:19:46.240 I did that as ball because because remember back then. 1:19:46.520 --> 1:19:53.040 You gotta remember back then, we couldn't punch in the 1:19:53.920 --> 1:20:03.720 record in one day. And it was even ye out here. 1:20:06.240 --> 1:20:14.960 But listen, I'll be fifty one one and you so, 1:20:15.880 --> 1:20:19.719 so I did this ship. That's how I always recorded. 1:20:19.760 --> 1:20:21.840 My record was all the way too, because we remember 1:20:21.920 --> 1:20:31.799 we had the eight inch rails back the two whatever 1:20:31.840 --> 1:20:37.320 you think it wasn't. So I was trained to just 1:20:37.520 --> 1:20:41.080 late everything altogether. So I came out and then he 1:20:41.160 --> 1:20:43.439 had the girl coming, and then the girl was saying, 1:20:44.040 --> 1:20:47.000 which is not kellless because everybody does everybody think it's Kalisi? 1:20:47.160 --> 1:20:53.760 It's not Colliso? What everybody? It's not? Get she was 1:20:53.800 --> 1:20:56.080 around during that time, Yeah, but everybody thought was it. 1:20:57.360 --> 1:21:00.960 I'm so sorry that for the Remember her tammy is 1:21:01.040 --> 1:21:07.320 definitely a tammy. Sounds like something like that, right, that 1:21:07.439 --> 1:21:11.960 was like that that We were all cool, Calice, but 1:21:12.160 --> 1:21:16.160 look a little come back out and I'll say, all 1:21:16.240 --> 1:21:18.479 we need is a hook? Have we done? And he 1:21:18.600 --> 1:21:22.200 said we got dog? And I said, where is it that? 1:21:23.320 --> 1:21:27.800 And then he flayed what they're gonna laugh at me? 1:21:28.560 --> 1:21:31.080 So I Freddy vos name at me. He's like, I 1:21:31.160 --> 1:21:34.160 don't want to hit the what but he didn't know 1:21:34.479 --> 1:21:39.920 that wasn't it literally wasn't me. So I was literally mad, mona, 1:21:39.960 --> 1:21:45.040 what's going on? Tam on that drink? Chance, God, damn 1:21:45.080 --> 1:21:50.439 it on them damn in my mind shout out to 1:21:50.520 --> 1:21:57.240 damn near. So. Now listen, you gotta see hip hop. 1:21:57.760 --> 1:22:04.200 You worked with cool Arts, you worked with C. L. Smooth. 1:22:06.000 --> 1:22:13.760 Now I'm going in So now what makes y'all say 1:22:14.000 --> 1:22:19.120 I'm gonna work with people outside? Oh? Because the thing 1:22:19.200 --> 1:22:23.479 about hip hop back then was one producer did the 1:22:23.520 --> 1:22:27.960 whole album. I'm working on going back to that one 1:22:28.040 --> 1:22:31.920 producer did the whole album Now You Got, You Got, 1:22:31.960 --> 1:22:39.000 You Got Almatic where it's Pete Rock, Chip Lars, Professor Ellis. 1:22:40.000 --> 1:22:52.960 Then you're going to at the big LB Lord for ness. 1:22:53.479 --> 1:22:57.720 Uh So what makes y'all? What makes y'all say I'm 1:22:57.720 --> 1:23:01.599 gonna work with people outside of my group because we're 1:23:01.720 --> 1:23:04.759 not just We're just not in a hip hop box. 1:23:05.200 --> 1:23:07.840 We're in a music box, and the music box has 1:23:07.960 --> 1:23:13.200 all styles that we appreciate based on the cloths were 1:23:13.240 --> 1:23:17.320 cut from a pioneers that opened the door when it's fired. 1:23:17.560 --> 1:23:23.559 James Brown boots the whole Parliament funk. Yeah, just any 1:23:23.640 --> 1:23:28.479 of that from parlt the Brothers, anything, Bootsy anything, Parliament anything, 1:23:28.520 --> 1:23:32.839 George Clinty, that's an error. After James Brown, that's so funky, 1:23:34.000 --> 1:23:36.080 you know a lot like like that. That's a funk 1:23:36.400 --> 1:23:39.000 that that enough funking, Like he says, funk not only 1:23:39.240 --> 1:23:42.880 moves it could remove. We come from that, you know. 1:23:43.040 --> 1:23:45.760 So I read the Franklin, Natalie Cole, Gladys Night in 1:23:45.800 --> 1:23:49.320 the Pivos, Curtis Mayfield, all that stuff, the Mac all 1:23:49.400 --> 1:23:52.760 that stuff. That's my childhood. I don't know about the 1:23:52.960 --> 1:23:55.960 hip hop to hippie hippie. I'm on that. I'm seeing 1:23:56.000 --> 1:24:01.439 my mom playing back to Yeah, Dinna rules, anything about Town, Tamler, 1:24:01.600 --> 1:24:05.920 Gordy Soul records, any of the stuff. My mama A 1:24:06.200 --> 1:24:19.720 time you want to make he Rooster saying but my 1:24:19.920 --> 1:24:26.480 child his platform shoes Afros this big Afro, Shane commercials, 1:24:26.520 --> 1:24:34.360 but Johnson Um good times, the Jefferson's all in the family. 1:24:34.640 --> 1:24:41.160 You know the monsters, that's my mom. Uns, that's my mom. Yeah, 1:24:41.760 --> 1:24:44.360 I'm gonna throw something in there. What's happening? That's my 1:24:44.680 --> 1:24:50.960 my racking stuff all that, you know, all that, Yeah, 1:24:51.360 --> 1:24:55.479 roller skating, we run, we run, That's what I know. 1:24:56.520 --> 1:24:59.000 This is no rapping and scratching. Yet, what is Pete 1:24:59.080 --> 1:25:04.320 Rock's favorite studio session of all these years? My favorite 1:25:04.320 --> 1:25:07.280 studio session that I've ever had, ever happened. It was 1:25:07.320 --> 1:25:13.120 probably had been with run DMC. Down with the shout 1:25:13.280 --> 1:25:19.160 with the king, Oh, down with the light. That's how 1:25:20.080 --> 1:25:29.439 it was crazy. That's the owner of this club and 1:25:29.560 --> 1:25:33.960 he's not gonna like and we had to like, so 1:25:34.080 --> 1:25:37.920 ill yo, we want the gang start tour last day 1:25:38.560 --> 1:25:42.080 and right and run called us and said hurry up 1:25:42.120 --> 1:25:44.439 and get hit. We did twenty five million trees while 1:25:44.520 --> 1:25:46.519 was I like one that we did not and we 1:25:46.640 --> 1:25:57.200 did not into and it ain't even perfect. And we 1:25:57.560 --> 1:25:59.719 came over the way y'all was and everybody was gone. 1:26:00.400 --> 1:26:03.880 You know. I gave CBS this idea, though, come on, bro, 1:26:04.040 --> 1:26:08.599 I give him that idea. You gotta relax, came them. 1:26:08.640 --> 1:26:11.920 I said, we need a streaming clack. No, we sat 1:26:12.080 --> 1:26:15.439 in the podcast, buddy, We just said podcast. I gotta 1:26:15.479 --> 1:26:19.760 go with him. He feels more sober than me. Yeah, 1:26:20.320 --> 1:26:25.640 I don't know if it's a d J thingy. You 1:26:25.680 --> 1:26:30.599 can we have a memory jay Z. Jay Z saw 1:26:30.720 --> 1:26:32.840 me one day. Jay Z said, Yeo, I'm gonna call 1:26:32.840 --> 1:26:37.120 you memory man. You remember every sort you're seeing jay 1:26:37.200 --> 1:26:39.880 Z and he'll he'll go, but you remember this time, 1:26:39.880 --> 1:26:42.639 I'll say, I remember we went and we were in Paris. 1:26:44.000 --> 1:26:46.320 We had a show like two in the morning and 1:26:46.439 --> 1:26:48.839 he was doing the uh this after the justin Timberlake 1:26:48.840 --> 1:26:50.920 tour and watch the throw who was doing the Holy 1:26:51.000 --> 1:26:54.080 Grail tour. We found out he was in town. Me 1:26:54.200 --> 1:26:56.720 and Keeble or whatever Keebler was at. I said, you'll 1:26:56.720 --> 1:26:59.080 want to go see jay Z before reach out. That's 1:26:59.080 --> 1:27:02.759 when he was still no. Now this in Paris, Paris, 1:27:03.560 --> 1:27:05.519 and we got a little to a couple of little time. 1:27:05.560 --> 1:27:07.639 Once I want to go to the show, I reached 1:27:07.680 --> 1:27:09.479 out to the proper people, and it was like, Yo, 1:27:09.560 --> 1:27:13.240 John when he was a Johan nearly reached out to 1:27:13.280 --> 1:27:15.800 John and nearly he's handling everything. I reached out to John, 1:27:16.080 --> 1:27:17.720 send him an email. I'm like, I'm out of here. 1:27:17.920 --> 1:27:19.320 Anyway we can go to the show. I'm thinking I 1:27:19.360 --> 1:27:21.840 ain't gonna respond. I think blipped in like two minutes. 1:27:21.840 --> 1:27:24.040 He said, Yo, there's gonna be passes waiting for you. 1:27:24.160 --> 1:27:31.880 All access. Come backstage. I'm gonna spot for you. We 1:27:31.960 --> 1:27:35.280 go backstage after the show. Uh because Timberland was d 1:27:35.400 --> 1:27:38.599 dam form. We go back stage after the show. Jay 1:27:38.680 --> 1:27:42.240 Z goes, all right, we'll remember you got this time 1:27:43.080 --> 1:27:47.360 because I introduced him to keep my tour man. He goes, yeah, 1:27:47.439 --> 1:27:51.519 he did. Like he's like, how are you doing? He's like, 1:27:51.520 --> 1:27:53.200 how you doing? Keep it? Nice to meet you. You'll 1:27:53.240 --> 1:27:55.600 know what you gotta memory this time? I said, you 1:27:55.760 --> 1:27:59.519 met Keebler before he goes, oh, no, how I said, 1:27:59.640 --> 1:28:05.160 we were at battery, uh Baseline Studios and uh Loupe 1:28:05.160 --> 1:28:09.160 if Fiasco was auditioning for you and he had on 1:28:09.400 --> 1:28:11.840 big chain. There's a Loupe I Fiasco had a big 1:28:11.960 --> 1:28:13.800 chain on with a big metal which he would never 1:28:13.880 --> 1:28:15.800 do right, and he was rapping for you know. Then 1:28:16.040 --> 1:28:19.880 he eat much more focused on another level. But come on, 1:28:20.000 --> 1:28:25.880 drink to shout the first and fifteen. So he goes, 1:28:27.040 --> 1:28:30.599 he's auditioning for J. Jay's listen all these rhymes. Lupe 1:28:30.680 --> 1:28:33.240 puts on a beat in the CD player. The CD 1:28:33.360 --> 1:28:36.599 starts to go do do you know when they skipped? 1:28:37.280 --> 1:28:43.320 Loupe goes and then it's finally stops skipping because I 1:28:43.680 --> 1:28:49.200 goes back into the rhyme. We're like, right there, Jay goes, 1:28:49.240 --> 1:28:53.840 I totally remember that day and you know him and 1:28:53.920 --> 1:28:56.280 keep loving. They're going to talking about sports, you know, 1:28:56.800 --> 1:29:03.479 makes for that. Now there's a deal like we're not 1:29:03.560 --> 1:29:06.479 in to view people. I like to, you know, dig 1:29:06.600 --> 1:29:10.200 into their life when I know the people. The people 1:29:10.680 --> 1:29:12.479 I don't dig into their life because I know them. 1:29:12.479 --> 1:29:14.760 I record both of you guys. I know all right now, 1:29:16.000 --> 1:29:18.400 I know exactly what to ask you. But the thing 1:29:18.479 --> 1:29:23.360 about y'all which surprised me is y'all both come and 1:29:23.520 --> 1:29:28.920 y'all both do your own sound check mandatory, And so 1:29:30.680 --> 1:29:34.599 what I'm asking, is I always what I always should think, 1:29:35.040 --> 1:29:37.600 like you guys who have a DJ, but he don't do. 1:29:37.880 --> 1:29:40.920 So we were talking about this and yeah, I was 1:29:41.120 --> 1:29:49.080 so like, He's like, they're doing that's sound we've done. Joe. 1:29:49.160 --> 1:29:51.720 I'm like, y'all make sure that even everything, he's gonna 1:29:51.760 --> 1:29:57.880 make it right. Every show speakers somehow they got a bull. 1:29:58.240 --> 1:30:01.280 I got to do sound check. I don't care even 1:30:01.320 --> 1:30:06.040 if I don't get to eat sleep, I'm starving, take 1:30:06.040 --> 1:30:11.719 a nap. I will not miss sound they produced because 1:30:11.880 --> 1:30:14.840 a lot of festivals you gotta just plug in check. 1:30:15.400 --> 1:30:17.640 I'm like, yo, it's got a bang, and I'm going 1:30:17.680 --> 1:30:20.720 to deliver what you paid to get. Get what you 1:30:20.840 --> 1:30:23.040 paid for. You're gonna pay to get me again. And 1:30:23.160 --> 1:30:24.880 you want your beat to be heard right, so you 1:30:24.960 --> 1:30:28.479 don't never sing like your assistant or nobody you. You 1:30:28.800 --> 1:30:32.240 guys said, we'll check it again before we start tonight. 1:30:33.200 --> 1:30:37.320 But other than that, now I wouldn't even see the 1:30:37.360 --> 1:30:39.800 working rumlers like, so, I already have a picture of 1:30:39.920 --> 1:30:42.080 what I'm stepping into when the crowd is here. But 1:30:42.760 --> 1:30:44.439 but you gotta let him in. Do what you gotta 1:30:44.479 --> 1:30:47.280 do if you want to do it. He wanted to 1:30:47.360 --> 1:30:55.120 do it. I see if if premoted in. Yeah, he 1:30:55.240 --> 1:30:58.160 was like yo, he said, he said, you didn't stay there, 1:30:59.680 --> 1:31:08.960 he would hip open up for himself. He wouldn't. He wouldn't, dude, 1:31:09.000 --> 1:31:10.920 he would have done another hour and we would like, Yo, Pete, 1:31:11.000 --> 1:31:14.600 come on is a bad thing? Yo, Pee, come on 1:31:15.600 --> 1:31:17.519 on the road where I'll get mad and not in 1:31:17.600 --> 1:31:21.920 a bad ways like Pete. I'm at the record store. 1:31:22.520 --> 1:31:24.960 We were here. We were in Tokyo one time and 1:31:25.120 --> 1:31:27.880 we're about to miss our plane and he goes, I 1:31:29.120 --> 1:31:32.600 gotta get this record. You're like, I'm not missing my 1:31:32.760 --> 1:31:34.760 play for you, especially on the day you're finally going 1:31:34.840 --> 1:31:37.080 on and you know, the day you're going home. You're 1:31:37.080 --> 1:31:39.080 just so ready to go back home. And we've been 1:31:39.120 --> 1:31:42.800 out for like a week in another country, and he's like, yo, 1:31:42.840 --> 1:31:45.600 I gotta get this record. I'm like, dogs, if we 1:31:45.960 --> 1:31:48.800 do not make this plane because of you, we're gonna 1:31:48.880 --> 1:31:51.920 And that's actually how the whole Pete Rock versus Premiere 1:31:51.960 --> 1:31:54.880 things started because of that day we got on the 1:31:54.920 --> 1:31:56.760 bugle said, you know what, man, we need to make 1:31:56.800 --> 1:31:58.599 an album. When we get our attention now to make 1:31:58.640 --> 1:32:01.479 an album. Going at the other making Hills, y'all doing 1:32:01.520 --> 1:32:03.920 the album. We're gonna do an album called p p 1:32:04.120 --> 1:32:10.559 VP P goddamnts record that record. We're doing that about. 1:32:14.920 --> 1:32:17.320 I have a website that let's carry the hats. So 1:32:17.439 --> 1:32:20.960 now say the website again. Premiere was here dot com 1:32:22.200 --> 1:32:24.360 dot com to ye and just go to the shop section. 1:32:25.560 --> 1:32:30.360 It has all official has all official gang Shot products, 1:32:30.640 --> 1:32:33.880 all official Google products, all official Premiere products. And me 1:32:33.960 --> 1:32:37.639 and Pete share the hats and we have green, red, blue, black, 1:32:37.760 --> 1:32:40.479 grand black. We have two t So what happened when 1:32:40.560 --> 1:32:46.400 y'all saw this battle individually and japan Us? No, no, 1:32:46.479 --> 1:32:48.560 I'm talking about when y'all saw the just blades and 1:32:50.720 --> 1:32:54.600 honestly everybody acting like that was the first you know 1:32:54.640 --> 1:32:57.560 what because we've been doing it so much. Yeah, it 1:32:57.680 --> 1:32:59.120 was more like, alright, cool, and this is ain't the 1:32:59.240 --> 1:33:01.240 first battles again, other they've done it before. No, no, 1:33:01.400 --> 1:33:06.920 not no, this is the first one. Kanye. Yeah, some 1:33:07.040 --> 1:33:09.479 of you it's a drink chance because they don't drink. 1:33:10.680 --> 1:33:14.760 That's different from yeah, no, y'alls is like y'alls is like, yeah, 1:33:15.520 --> 1:33:17.559 the couture, but the next day they trying to post 1:33:17.600 --> 1:33:18.760 in that me and you need to do it. I'm like, 1:33:18.840 --> 1:33:21.479 we've been doing you've been doing it. It's like y'all missed. 1:33:21.520 --> 1:33:23.439 They need to do a normal hip hop and story. 1:33:23.479 --> 1:33:26.519 And I know, but what did you and what was 1:33:26.560 --> 1:33:28.479 your first thing when you when you heard that they 1:33:28.520 --> 1:33:33.559 battle and swiss? I have the phone. Who's my phone 1:33:33.600 --> 1:33:39.439 that I'll show you to come? Yes, kay, we believe it. 1:33:40.120 --> 1:33:44.160 Actually we are. We're waiting. I forgot, I got, we 1:33:44.280 --> 1:33:48.080 got y'all man drink n close until day to nine. 1:33:48.360 --> 1:33:58.439 I remember when you did the remix to it. I 1:33:58.640 --> 1:34:05.560 got them. I don't know, but but it's from the 1:34:05.600 --> 1:34:07.920 perspective of what we think is hot. And I remember 1:34:07.960 --> 1:34:11.240 when you did the remix to Uh Jose he's calling 1:34:11.280 --> 1:34:15.560 the name picking up you did with with uh what 1:34:15.600 --> 1:34:20.519 was the name? City board d Look at you? You 1:34:20.600 --> 1:34:24.479 did Veron, you did the first I gotta stop. That's 1:34:27.280 --> 1:34:34.479 definitely definitely more passed to me. Now, Yes, yes, yes, 1:34:37.600 --> 1:34:44.360 I played. I said I played your version more than 1:34:44.400 --> 1:34:50.320 fab shops Fabuse Fat. Fabris is a dope lyricist and 1:34:50.400 --> 1:34:53.280 knows how to do club records, radio records, and still 1:34:53.520 --> 1:34:56.960 have a really clever way of writing his rhyme love 1:34:57.080 --> 1:34:59.519 fab and I'm a big fan of his, but your 1:34:59.640 --> 1:35:02.000 version fit more of the format of what I represent 1:35:02.840 --> 1:35:08.439 the most grimeest money, Like you said, clean shoes, I 1:35:08.439 --> 1:35:11.160 don't like. Your version was the one I played. So 1:35:11.720 --> 1:35:14.559 we're on every Friday night from Temper on the midnight 1:35:15.000 --> 1:35:18.360 Serious X. I like radio Channel forty four, hit by Nation, 1:35:19.360 --> 1:35:24.160 and uh, what I represent is the era of the 1:35:24.320 --> 1:35:30.280 eighties with Molly Marl, reddlers, chill out. Also imagine Mi justin, yeah, 1:35:31.000 --> 1:35:34.600 just chucking, like just in the two thousand era or 1:35:34.720 --> 1:35:37.360 whatever year we're in. I still keep it to that. 1:35:37.439 --> 1:35:39.720 And there's so many artists to have hot stuff out 1:35:40.120 --> 1:35:42.360 that will never get played anywhere else. So I'm like, 1:35:42.560 --> 1:35:44.880 I'll play it, send it to me if I like it, 1:35:44.960 --> 1:35:47.280 and it's on at that level, it's gonna get broken 1:35:47.880 --> 1:35:51.040 and and and that way, not only do you trust me, 1:35:51.680 --> 1:35:54.160 you also start to focus on you know what, if 1:35:54.200 --> 1:35:57.000 he's playing it, it's got to be real and that's 1:35:57.040 --> 1:36:00.479 really what it is. So all of that, but now 1:36:01.160 --> 1:36:07.840 the just blades Swiss beasts. So it happens, I acting, 1:36:08.880 --> 1:36:10.680 I'm on my way to the show and Swiss is 1:36:10.760 --> 1:36:12.680 texting me saying, Yo, I like you to come check 1:36:12.760 --> 1:36:15.320 this out. My shows on from ten to midnight. They're 1:36:15.320 --> 1:36:17.840 starting at ten o'clock. He's like, yo, man, I really 1:36:17.840 --> 1:36:20.080 like and I would have gone definitely. I definitely would 1:36:20.080 --> 1:36:23.000 have gone. But I'm not abandoned my show because again 1:36:23.040 --> 1:36:26.479 it's live. It's my favos. Prerecorded cool. Live is a 1:36:26.680 --> 1:36:30.960 whole different animal. A lot. Live is when you have 1:36:31.439 --> 1:36:34.200 when I scripted nothing, We just roll. You know what 1:36:34.240 --> 1:36:36.760 I'm saying, And when it comes to how we do it, 1:36:37.680 --> 1:36:41.320 everything just flows from minute to minute, second and second beat, 1:36:41.360 --> 1:36:45.959 two beat, voice to voice him on just the realness 1:36:46.000 --> 1:36:48.800 of hip hop from my perspective. So when it came 1:36:48.880 --> 1:36:53.599 to Swiss Beats and uh, just blades doing doing the show. 1:36:54.080 --> 1:36:56.960 As soon as I got off the air, I checked 1:36:57.040 --> 1:36:59.120 my Instagram and saw they were live. I don't want 1:36:59.120 --> 1:37:02.320 to Swiss Beats. I clicked on it. I want to 1:37:02.360 --> 1:37:04.080 see my man d d Rectangle, who was one of 1:37:04.120 --> 1:37:08.840 the dopest Battle dus ever. You make the Scratch final. Yeah. 1:37:09.160 --> 1:37:12.120 I go to his show to watch him do a 1:37:12.640 --> 1:37:15.720 body gig and I'm in there with my phone going, 1:37:17.840 --> 1:37:21.360 um yeah, two in the morning. I'm like, just still 1:37:21.439 --> 1:37:25.920 on from clock and I'm doing this looking at him 1:37:25.920 --> 1:37:29.800 a little bit and they switched it over. Now I 1:37:29.920 --> 1:37:38.720 just got the bell me and the guy said, yo, 1:37:39.240 --> 1:37:41.360 just plazing them still battling. It's almost two in the 1:37:41.479 --> 1:37:44.880 morning and I'm sitting there doing this in a corner 1:37:44.920 --> 1:37:47.840 and the club where it looks like I'm like a 1:37:48.680 --> 1:37:50.760 sort of thumb, but I'm like, no, I'm watching and 1:37:50.840 --> 1:37:52.479 check it out because I want to see what they're 1:37:52.560 --> 1:37:56.519 doing to battle, because they started pulling our beats. So 1:37:56.680 --> 1:37:59.439 that's what I'm like, Well, you're still a fan of 1:37:59.520 --> 1:38:02.240 the coach. You like that. I will remain because you 1:38:02.280 --> 1:38:04.800 know why, I think. I guess being from Texas, I 1:38:04.920 --> 1:38:07.040 wanted to be accepted by New York because at the 1:38:07.120 --> 1:38:09.920 time I came, if New York didn't except you, it 1:38:09.920 --> 1:38:11.840 didn't matter where you were from at that time. Being 1:38:12.000 --> 1:38:15.479 that acceptance. I got that acceptance from the greats. I 1:38:15.600 --> 1:38:17.920 wanted E. P. M D To love me. I wanted 1:38:18.320 --> 1:38:23.080 Big Daddy came up Camp Arrest one. I wanted Grandmaster Flash, 1:38:23.240 --> 1:38:30.040 Molly All Motherfucker's better be on there. It was DJ 1:38:30.160 --> 1:38:34.280 J d J, you became Jazzy, jeff Um, Cash Money, 1:38:34.479 --> 1:38:40.479 d J Scratch, and I just wanted how E t S. Yeah, 1:38:41.000 --> 1:38:44.839 I smoked. I did earlier. No, let's just say earlier 1:38:44.960 --> 1:38:51.600 was to work. That was recent. Sorry, this guy, I 1:38:51.640 --> 1:38:58.320 told you fifty years old, you stay shot. Shoot, you 1:38:58.400 --> 1:39:02.280 gotta look at this is when you know you're on point. 1:39:03.280 --> 1:39:06.519 Never has any drugs that I've ever used defeated me 1:39:07.680 --> 1:39:11.439 and very important. At fifty, I'm on my level. You 1:39:11.520 --> 1:39:17.720 got to take a Molley though. Let's take a momy broid. 1:39:17.920 --> 1:39:25.519 That was junior. No, no, no, no, that was eighty 1:39:25.560 --> 1:39:27.519 one when they was called Black Molly and that was 1:39:27.600 --> 1:39:31.360 the own. Oh my god, this black Molly. What didn't 1:39:32.200 --> 1:39:36.880 you put us on like I would like a black 1:39:38.800 --> 1:39:41.400 all that stuff Now it's just it's like that's not 1:39:42.160 --> 1:39:44.120 mobile jumble stuff now, you know what I'm saying. So, 1:39:44.720 --> 1:39:47.479 like I said, this is my high school days. So 1:39:47.520 --> 1:39:50.639 my high school days. I graduated in high school eight four, okay, 1:39:51.160 --> 1:39:54.599 So imagine our era of of getting lifted and you're 1:39:54.640 --> 1:39:56.880 looking good and we're gonna respect you. I just started 1:39:56.920 --> 1:40:00.760 training again, the big black. I'm getting my You know 1:40:00.880 --> 1:40:06.000 I love food, man, I love I love ice cream. Shot. 1:40:06.560 --> 1:40:11.320 That's the first time the podcast, that's all. And that's 1:40:12.200 --> 1:40:16.680 when you go to ice cream, you go the best 1:40:17.040 --> 1:40:19.599 when you get coops in the coup. It ain't official 1:40:19.640 --> 1:40:24.760 to you take the Hersey syrup. You can't when you 1:40:25.000 --> 1:40:27.160 when you make a wooler, you don't want to see 1:40:27.200 --> 1:40:29.599 no green. But you know the green is in the blood. 1:40:30.280 --> 1:40:34.960 That's how you do it. Let's go. That's the level drugs, 1:40:35.080 --> 1:40:41.640 you know. So I just make it the only thing 1:40:41.760 --> 1:40:45.160 I listened to. Maybe just from that, we've lost, and 1:40:45.360 --> 1:40:48.040 we've lost to all different things from being shot, being 1:40:48.160 --> 1:40:51.160 the bad disease and eating bad health, all that stuff. 1:40:51.680 --> 1:40:54.080 It let me know I'm here for a reason. I 1:40:54.280 --> 1:40:57.120 love your life and fix your life to be able 1:40:57.160 --> 1:41:00.320 to have a longer life. My parents at eight years annoys. 1:41:00.680 --> 1:41:05.800 My parents, my dad's ad eight They got and they 1:41:05.880 --> 1:41:08.639 got issues, but they're still kicking. My father makes all 1:41:08.680 --> 1:41:11.280 the food. He's like, get away from stay out of 1:41:11.320 --> 1:41:13.920 my kitchen, let me stay, get on my way. I 1:41:14.040 --> 1:41:16.200 want to be eight doing that. But I guarantee they 1:41:16.320 --> 1:41:19.360 never did the black Molley. You don't know that just 1:41:19.640 --> 1:41:26.400 this way with the black Molley. Im I was in school. 1:41:26.880 --> 1:41:36.040 When I was in high school, you get talking about 1:41:36.080 --> 1:41:41.600 black Molly was sixteen and I was sixteen. That was 1:41:41.680 --> 1:41:52.240 only one ecstasy, only one way two that was already Yeah, okay, yeah, 1:41:54.360 --> 1:42:00.639 I'm forty one. Damn, what the fun a white man? 1:42:01.040 --> 1:42:04.920 But you're about cool over here? Bro? Why is that 1:42:05.000 --> 1:42:08.760 a surprise? Yo? Dude? There was only one ecstasy was 1:42:08.880 --> 1:42:12.320 called this uh, this would right, this would yeah, and 1:42:12.400 --> 1:42:16.360 it was it was called ecstasy. Yes, but DA wasn't popping, 1:42:16.439 --> 1:42:20.560 So I didn't know that you weren't around during that time. No, no, no, 1:42:20.720 --> 1:42:23.960 I was talking about I'm ten years older than you, 1:42:24.560 --> 1:42:30.160 so you gotta relax. Eighty one. I graduated high school 1:42:30.200 --> 1:42:36.600 in eighty four three. I listen, listen. There was like 1:42:36.720 --> 1:42:40.040 one style of stc one style of milley. That was it. 1:42:40.240 --> 1:42:43.240 There wasn't all twenty and there was all that. There 1:42:43.400 --> 1:42:47.080 wasn't really bear and cherry cherry juice and all these 1:42:47.120 --> 1:42:51.519 funny names. And you smoke cocato. Cocaine was more of 1:42:51.760 --> 1:42:56.000 smoking cocaine. But it's called cool. It's called crack, no wool, 1:42:56.160 --> 1:42:59.880 it's crack. And we also a cool cooly. It's cool 1:43:00.080 --> 1:43:07.479 cop cigarette. How are you yell? It's yeah, seventy seven, 1:43:07.600 --> 1:43:10.800 it's all goods. Having the blackout. I was there in 1:43:10.840 --> 1:43:15.280 my grandom, but I was there staying with my grandfather. 1:43:15.720 --> 1:43:21.320 Got during those days, it was only one of each side. 1:43:21.360 --> 1:43:24.280 That's why when I see what's going on now, it's like, damn, man, 1:43:24.360 --> 1:43:27.680 these people were so lost because there's all kinds of 1:43:27.760 --> 1:43:29.559 weird ship flow. Now I don't want to be around 1:43:29.600 --> 1:43:32.360 none of that. You know, we're around the pure. And 1:43:32.439 --> 1:43:36.000 again that that's kind of like the hippie seventies hallucinogens. 1:43:36.120 --> 1:43:37.840 It was the time and all that the the the 1:43:38.360 --> 1:43:41.120 but those beat you was making the bit of the 1:43:41.400 --> 1:43:44.719 body called give the drugs a little bit of props. 1:43:46.320 --> 1:43:48.960 We just have to be in. You know, you're the 1:43:49.040 --> 1:43:58.759 only guy that makes for draws. I'm not making no drugs. 1:43:59.280 --> 1:44:02.600 But but again, I'm glad that drink. I'm glad that 1:44:02.640 --> 1:44:06.160 I understand the concept of that era because understanding it 1:44:06.280 --> 1:44:10.080 and understanding where your cut off point is, you don't 1:44:10.080 --> 1:44:13.559 need to rehab. You rehab yourself with your mind. I've 1:44:13.600 --> 1:44:17.840 always said that to control yourself. And I know when 1:44:18.640 --> 1:44:21.559 can't controlling to draw myself, that's too much. Go back 1:44:21.600 --> 1:44:24.240 to normal. And then that that that's how people can 1:44:24.400 --> 1:44:27.800 wonder about you. But they can't say, yo, my man 1:44:28.000 --> 1:44:30.599 is lost, he's gone. You can never say I'm gone. 1:44:30.960 --> 1:44:39.519 I'm always here. That now he was recently beefing with Time. 1:44:41.360 --> 1:44:50.960 What from you don't even know who all of us 1:44:51.080 --> 1:44:56.479 from my times describe what happened. Ain't you dissatisfied with 1:44:56.640 --> 1:45:02.640 the um He's not, He's not. I'll say this. I 1:45:02.720 --> 1:45:04.400 had a little I listened. I had a little coosy 1:45:04.520 --> 1:45:10.960 verse situation. Oh that was you. Yeah, But first I 1:45:11.120 --> 1:45:13.600 wasn't offended by that, right, I be offended that he 1:45:13.600 --> 1:45:15.000 don't want to wrap to that. If that's not what 1:45:15.080 --> 1:45:18.360 you want to rap mass Field, that's not really a 1:45:18.400 --> 1:45:21.439 big and it don't make sense for no makes sense 1:45:21.479 --> 1:45:24.000 for him, don't make sense for him. I have other 1:45:24.160 --> 1:45:28.479 games I beat you can wrap to freestyle about. It 1:45:28.600 --> 1:45:31.840 wasn't massive pill it was it was it was it 1:45:31.960 --> 1:45:36.439 was memory man in there. I saw it too, and 1:45:36.640 --> 1:45:39.600 what happened described because I'm not rapping to that. So 1:45:40.160 --> 1:45:44.880 he said, why is that wrapping the breakbeat? Listen? Twitter 1:45:44.960 --> 1:45:47.840 started blowing up on my Twitter. He started to get 1:45:47.920 --> 1:45:51.240 out of hand. Everybody disinal. Then he joins him, So 1:45:51.280 --> 1:45:52.720 I want to see what he says. So I checked 1:45:52.760 --> 1:45:55.120 his traffic because I gotta make sure I'm on point 1:45:55.520 --> 1:45:58.080 before I do anything. You always got to stay focused 1:45:58.120 --> 1:46:00.400 on being on point. I know who I am. I 1:46:00.439 --> 1:46:01.920 don't never want to be looked as a person I 1:46:01.960 --> 1:46:04.160 got played ever and are not going to be looked 1:46:04.200 --> 1:46:08.080 that way. Absolutely. So when I checked the thread, I 1:46:08.280 --> 1:46:10.320 was like, yo, yeah, because it's getting out of hand. 1:46:10.479 --> 1:46:13.960 My fans are going hard on him, like, yo, you 1:46:14.040 --> 1:46:17.760 know that they're doing with this? Yeah, they want to 1:46:17.840 --> 1:46:20.840 kill him. Yeah. So I'm like yo, out there, I'm like, listen, 1:46:21.880 --> 1:46:24.600 pick up to him. Man, he ain't get around to that. 1:46:25.040 --> 1:46:26.639 If he don't like that, he doesn't like that, that's 1:46:26.680 --> 1:46:29.960 what I put He's then wrap what he feels like. 1:46:30.000 --> 1:46:32.439 It's comfortable. So that made him join in and said, yo, 1:46:32.840 --> 1:46:35.840 d m me. We damned each other. He said, listen, man, 1:46:36.680 --> 1:46:39.960 anything I can learn from you put me on. And 1:46:44.160 --> 1:46:46.479 I said, you know what, really know, I said, I'm 1:46:47.120 --> 1:46:49.840 join with you. My fans may get mad, but the 1:46:49.960 --> 1:46:53.360 only none because the difference is the same thing. I'm 1:46:53.400 --> 1:46:55.920 not gonna make a record that's that I can't let 1:46:56.040 --> 1:46:58.760 leave the studio to me and him on the same level. 1:46:58.920 --> 1:47:01.759 It's like, yo, wait today, better, You're not gonna compromise yourself. 1:47:01.800 --> 1:47:05.200 You're gonna work. No. But but that's the let me 1:47:05.240 --> 1:47:06.920 tell you something let me tell you something. When you 1:47:07.040 --> 1:47:11.439 work with Pream, you work with Pete. These brothers are 1:47:11.600 --> 1:47:15.439 so professional. All you gotta do is sending the vocals 1:47:15.560 --> 1:47:22.080 and then relax. Skills that I turned into my own skill. 1:47:22.520 --> 1:47:24.920 It's not biting them. But he's like, you know, that's 1:47:24.920 --> 1:47:27.320 how you do it. And I was like, how do 1:47:27.680 --> 1:47:29.200 you reminisce? I was like yo, but I was like, 1:47:29.360 --> 1:47:32.280 how are you making that? I was like, how are 1:47:32.320 --> 1:47:36.439 you making the base get fuller and mimic the sample? 1:47:36.760 --> 1:47:38.840 He said, it's the same sample, but I feel it. 1:47:39.040 --> 1:47:41.200 I'm like, but how do you do that's come up? 1:47:41.280 --> 1:47:44.560 I'll show you, but don't show him. He showed him, like, 1:47:45.400 --> 1:47:49.080 so you turned it to that same thing we have. 1:47:49.680 --> 1:47:52.439 But I never knew that part of the equipment he said, 1:47:52.520 --> 1:47:55.160 turned into that. I started doing it ex Girl, the 1:47:55.280 --> 1:48:04.360 next girl. That's my joints to all my relationships. So 1:48:04.439 --> 1:48:06.839 when he goes in that part, where does it go muffled? 1:48:09.400 --> 1:48:11.439 I sent it to Pete to make sure I was 1:48:11.560 --> 1:48:13.760 doing it right. I love my wife, I believe in 1:48:13.840 --> 1:48:15.479 myself and all that stuff, but I wanted to make 1:48:15.479 --> 1:48:16.760 sure I was doing it right, so I sent it 1:48:16.880 --> 1:48:19.120 to him for approval. I go yo, Did I do 1:48:19.240 --> 1:48:21.040 it right? He goes low. That's gonna be a hit. 1:48:21.320 --> 1:48:25.720 It was a hit, big hit. So when you come 1:48:25.760 --> 1:48:30.000 back right there shows you that the respect for what 1:48:30.160 --> 1:48:32.120 he was doing. Before I even knew how he was 1:48:32.200 --> 1:48:35.439 doing it, he was willing to show me the trick 1:48:36.000 --> 1:48:38.240 because he knew. He didn't take it like all, No, 1:48:38.400 --> 1:48:41.559 he wouldn't beat my fight my style. Let me let 1:48:41.600 --> 1:48:44.559 me ball that tool. And then when I applied that tool, 1:48:45.040 --> 1:48:48.240 it wasn't a fight. It's just another another extension of 1:48:48.360 --> 1:48:51.320 what he taught me. That's why him law professor show 1:48:51.640 --> 1:48:55.280 is all my three mentors. And again Molly mar didn't 1:48:55.280 --> 1:49:00.439 show me anything in person, just what he did commusic 1:49:00.520 --> 1:49:04.479 with your mouth BIS. Nobody beats the BIS road to 1:49:04.520 --> 1:49:06.640 the ridges. A lot of people in the circle have 1:49:06.720 --> 1:49:09.320 said they've given them them the I gave him that record. 1:49:09.479 --> 1:49:17.759 That's all good. He did the that's what it's all about. 1:49:18.120 --> 1:49:20.719 Who made it bounce that way? Who made your echo 1:49:20.840 --> 1:49:24.000 sound that way? Who made your voice sound funky that way? 1:49:24.520 --> 1:49:27.160 Molly did it, And that's all that matters to me 1:49:27.680 --> 1:49:31.280 because that's what makes me be premier in order to 1:49:31.560 --> 1:49:33.200 be to stay doing it the way you do it 1:49:33.280 --> 1:49:35.799 for the rest of my life and in my past. 1:49:35.880 --> 1:49:39.360 And it's because of how I study a great one. 1:49:39.479 --> 1:49:41.400 So whatever you brought to him is what you brought 1:49:41.439 --> 1:49:44.400 to him. He still made it glow. The gurus always 1:49:44.439 --> 1:49:48.360 say that you and Eddie Sancho make everything glow. He said, 1:49:48.439 --> 1:49:50.320 I just laid my part down, but you make it 1:49:50.479 --> 1:49:53.080 light up. Molly makes things light up. So when no 1:49:53.200 --> 1:49:55.639 matter what you bring him or you gave him everything, 1:49:56.040 --> 1:49:58.439 he made it light up. Or without the light, there's darkness. 1:49:58.600 --> 1:50:00.599 I want to be in light. What don't think about 1:50:00.680 --> 1:50:03.680 like the separation of sampling and hip hop? So now, 1:50:04.760 --> 1:50:07.400 I mean does it matter We understand the rules and 1:50:07.479 --> 1:50:09.839 the sample of all. I mean, I understand the sampling 1:50:09.960 --> 1:50:14.439 and financial you just it takes away the soul me personally, 1:50:14.479 --> 1:50:17.120 I think sometimes it don't you just get illow with 1:50:17.200 --> 1:50:21.200 your sample well now and cutting it so nobody knows 1:50:21.240 --> 1:50:23.799 what it is and if it's bad, but it's still sampling. 1:50:24.080 --> 1:50:27.840 Is you might go and just get you're still sampling, Yeah, 1:50:28.720 --> 1:50:35.320 following jo booprint, which is what? Yeah, I mean we're 1:50:35.400 --> 1:50:38.679 lost because we're not records in little little movies. Oh 1:50:39.439 --> 1:50:44.840 like we know now that the safety zones versions, and 1:50:44.920 --> 1:50:46.479 then there's just the point where we gotta do it. 1:50:46.560 --> 1:50:51.760 And it's really that that that had important. Now I 1:50:52.640 --> 1:50:54.960 just now, no, we got no money, we can't clear anything. 1:50:59.680 --> 1:51:04.000 Don't tell me that you're in trouble. Like I said, 1:51:04.040 --> 1:51:06.000 he taught me scratch. Folks. If you just listen to 1:51:06.160 --> 1:51:10.240 a lot of my joints, this is me scratching that 1:51:10.400 --> 1:51:15.080 crazy you were doing radio already with Molly Mall. I'm like, damn, 1:51:15.760 --> 1:51:20.040 this new guy, Pete Rob he's nasty because Molly had 1:51:20.040 --> 1:51:23.559 a certain scratched hour show. This out there kind of foul. 1:51:23.680 --> 1:51:26.679 N I'm gonna smoke with camel crush in our face 1:51:29.160 --> 1:51:35.400 because no good. Just give us cancer people win, White 1:51:35.439 --> 1:51:38.880 people like lucky strikes. You got moornaments. You gotta funk 1:51:38.920 --> 1:51:42.880 with the white monaments. Twhen you leave it, you're good 1:51:44.840 --> 1:51:48.479 is white and the white person. When we did the record, 1:51:48.680 --> 1:51:52.040 the record that we did together, I say, I think 1:51:52.120 --> 1:51:54.320 that I was the first person to ask you to 1:51:54.600 --> 1:51:58.840 cut up Gurus vocals. Wasn't see me everything right? Was 1:51:59.160 --> 1:52:02.880 the person? I don't know? No jay z j Z 1:52:03.040 --> 1:52:05.120 did you don't know, But after his death, that's what 1:52:05.200 --> 1:52:10.360 I'm saying. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, said you sent me everything? 1:52:10.520 --> 1:52:13.000 Yeah no, he had hosted mad Men States from me 1:52:14.760 --> 1:52:21.240 and I was honored. Yeah yeah no DJ yeah no 1:52:21.400 --> 1:52:26.160 if it was Google, DJ was damn you remember really 1:52:26.320 --> 1:52:31.160 isn't back that ship. I have nothing against him, have 1:52:31.280 --> 1:52:41.320 ill memories. I apologize fact, but there's no apology needed 1:52:41.720 --> 1:52:47.400 when you had this, So apologies policies don't get that 1:52:48.080 --> 1:52:51.519 only sold one million records, so you have twenty You 1:52:51.640 --> 1:52:58.280 think it's about to stop listening, Jessy, but Google, who 1:52:58.439 --> 1:53:04.720 passes away? Yeah? What's what? What's this man head name 1:53:05.560 --> 1:53:10.120 you gotta saying? I can't say because no, no, no, no, 1:53:10.400 --> 1:53:14.280 not even the yeah, holy ship. I don't know what's 1:53:14.280 --> 1:53:17.080 going on right now. You helped me out. He don't 1:53:17.080 --> 1:53:19.519 deserve he don't deserve to be it said from it's 1:53:19.560 --> 1:53:25.960 not a good person in France. No, No, that's two 1:53:26.000 --> 1:53:31.439 different Ones's solar as so LUs another solo. He's from friend, 1:53:31.520 --> 1:53:34.040 he's dope, that's my dude, right, so it's another solar 1:53:34.240 --> 1:53:36.479 together of course, all right, so we got to clarify that. 1:53:37.600 --> 1:53:42.120 So Long I'm so sorry to actually, as you say, 1:53:42.280 --> 1:53:45.840 but so Long makes these claims and then with his 1:53:45.920 --> 1:53:51.800 premier standing on all the type of stuff put to 1:53:51.880 --> 1:53:56.519 you like this, um people could yeah, say what they 1:53:56.600 --> 1:53:58.519 want to say and all that type of stuff. That's 1:53:58.520 --> 1:54:00.320 all cool because I don't have nothing to say when 1:54:00.360 --> 1:54:04.480 it comes to that. But if old Boy does anything, 1:54:05.320 --> 1:54:08.559 then I'll have a lot to problem symbol and play. 1:54:09.720 --> 1:54:13.320 That's my Belichick moment. Heard you, that was Bill Belichick. 1:54:13.479 --> 1:54:20.599 Anything was done, Chris Green, we love you, we love 1:54:20.640 --> 1:54:23.240 you back, and we love you and everything you meant 1:54:23.280 --> 1:54:25.240 to hip hop and then you know it was it 1:54:25.360 --> 1:54:28.640 was a funny moment. Everything I mean that I'm you know, 1:54:28.880 --> 1:54:33.400 everything you I apologize, you mean the hip hop and 1:54:33.520 --> 1:54:35.960 you know, it was a funny moment for us in 1:54:36.160 --> 1:54:39.240 hip hop when we got to hear like you know 1:54:39.760 --> 1:54:43.839 that's like yo gangster and you know, and the intention 1:54:44.000 --> 1:54:47.440 then this guy and we never because we It's similar 1:54:47.560 --> 1:54:50.920 to how Pun like when Pun died, I walked to 1:54:51.040 --> 1:54:54.600 his casket and they told me, I said, all the jewels, 1:54:56.080 --> 1:54:59.240 because I thought the most funeral homes the caskets at 1:54:59.280 --> 1:55:01.600 the front up. His was in the middle of the 1:55:01.680 --> 1:55:04.280 middle of the middle of the lord. So when I 1:55:04.360 --> 1:55:06.520 walk in, was like, oh, he's right there, right there, 1:55:06.600 --> 1:55:10.600 And the casket was I've never seen a casket like this. Okay, 1:55:10.720 --> 1:55:15.560 I've never seen the cas casket was short and super duper, 1:55:16.640 --> 1:55:18.920 and he had all his TSS chained around his hands 1:55:19.720 --> 1:55:21.640 and it looked like he was kissing the sky because 1:55:21.680 --> 1:55:25.680 the lip would puck it up like. That's my point. 1:55:25.960 --> 1:55:29.160 My point of bringing this up was when I when 1:55:29.240 --> 1:55:31.960 I went to punts casket, people told me that punching 1:55:32.080 --> 1:55:36.440 suff that something up punched suffering, and that now he's 1:55:36.440 --> 1:55:38.360 in a better place. And I didn't. I didn't know 1:55:38.480 --> 1:55:43.960 what people meant. So when I heard, you know, Google pass, yeah, 1:55:44.360 --> 1:55:49.920 and never I've never seen Google suffer. Nah, so either either. 1:55:50.680 --> 1:55:54.760 So everything was just a strange not just me, everybody, 1:55:54.880 --> 1:55:58.879 and not like if not the fans, who we are massive, 1:55:59.600 --> 1:56:02.760 it's ains to everybody. Is strange to me, the strange 1:56:02.800 --> 1:56:06.040 to the fans because oh boy, don't know my man 1:56:06.200 --> 1:56:11.120 like I know my man. We know him. Well. If 1:56:11.160 --> 1:56:16.800 I really wanted to grade dude on a five quiz question, there, 1:56:17.840 --> 1:56:23.440 I guarantee you'll fail. Every answer simple and plain because 1:56:23.520 --> 1:56:27.520 you had to really really really really really really really 1:56:27.680 --> 1:56:31.560 really know my duty. So you will fail. I can 1:56:31.640 --> 1:56:34.879 watch you right now and make every little sad simple questions. 1:56:35.400 --> 1:56:39.400 Not hard on simple questions, He's going to fail. And 1:56:39.480 --> 1:56:44.200 it's gonna also be multiple choice ABC A D. I'm 1:56:44.320 --> 1:56:46.560 not gonna pick the right answer. And I know this 1:56:46.920 --> 1:56:49.160 because I know this and I know him. I know 1:56:49.320 --> 1:56:53.080 both of them. So that's why I don't entertain them. 1:56:53.680 --> 1:56:57.320 Because anytime he wants to ever go there, I'm here. 1:56:57.600 --> 1:57:01.360 If I'm not here, I'm here. Um you feel me 1:57:01.480 --> 1:57:06.560 damning premier right now. And now we'll not say his name. 1:57:06.680 --> 1:57:10.640 It's not worthy of because hip hop needed to hear 1:57:10.720 --> 1:57:14.040 that show. Hi, Hey pop really need this. How can 1:57:14.120 --> 1:57:17.040 we make them do that? When things is the right move? 1:57:17.480 --> 1:57:19.360 I know what it is. How about the right people 1:57:19.440 --> 1:57:23.160 around me, from legal to my management to my artists, 1:57:23.600 --> 1:57:26.160 for me even being in the street, I have a 1:57:26.280 --> 1:57:29.960 stream mentality that keeps me grounded. And I have a dog, 1:57:30.200 --> 1:57:32.800 mom and dad and sisters and niece and nephews like 1:57:33.040 --> 1:57:36.240 five year old son, who's my dude? Shout to his mother. 1:57:36.400 --> 1:57:41.720 She's point everybody like, we're that connected on making sure 1:57:41.840 --> 1:57:44.880 we don't ever funk up with the social media stuff 1:57:45.120 --> 1:57:47.880 making us up like we're fools. Ain't going out like that. 1:57:48.480 --> 1:57:57.640 I'm premier that the mother. Yeah, listen, I'm gonna be honest. 1:57:57.720 --> 1:58:00.280 I'm gonna be honest with me and this guy to 1:58:00.360 --> 1:58:03.800 the right of me started this. We sat down and 1:58:03.960 --> 1:58:08.240 we said, we want the only give love to the legends, 1:58:09.600 --> 1:58:13.600 the legends at hip hop. You guys are the impitot 1:58:13.680 --> 1:58:16.960 me of let this is, this is the pinnacle, and 1:58:17.360 --> 1:58:19.560 I can't. I can't thank you enough, Like you know, 1:58:19.720 --> 1:58:23.680 both of you guys that gave me beats and that's 1:58:23.880 --> 1:58:30.800 crazy about this thing about it. I still can't do that. Still, yeah, yeah, 1:58:32.160 --> 1:58:36.000 I still owe you both because I love you. You 1:58:36.120 --> 1:58:43.640 don't nah, I love you guys because I've been starting. 1:58:44.200 --> 1:58:47.920 I'm starting to give yourself with that beating that mean tonight. 1:58:48.040 --> 1:58:52.760 Please give me that crazy man, y'a dude, I was 1:58:52.800 --> 1:59:00.240 kind to Pege. You got here. Give me because I 1:59:00.360 --> 1:59:07.320 want Pete to know, so up the club. I really 1:59:07.400 --> 1:59:10.480 want to do this for your album, Pete. For man. 1:59:10.880 --> 1:59:13.280 If it wasn't for you, guys, I probably wouldn't have 1:59:13.400 --> 1:59:16.520 a childhood, no doubt. And this is real ship. And 1:59:16.600 --> 1:59:19.880 that's real ship. I really love joints that we love. 1:59:20.400 --> 1:59:32.560 I want the first time I heard it, Okay, it's 1:59:33.440 --> 1:59:40.160 don't swish not only killed that smash everybody on that song. 1:59:42.800 --> 1:59:45.720 I wanted to do a posse cut. You know what happened. 1:59:46.160 --> 1:59:51.160 I wanted to do a posse cut your body that open. 1:59:51.400 --> 1:59:54.000 Whoever gets crazy ship, whoever goes first to me, and 1:59:54.080 --> 1:59:57.640 whoever goes last has the most. I wouldn't last. That 1:59:57.800 --> 2:00:01.720 was that or because right now listen, really do have 2:00:01.840 --> 2:00:06.240 to punt. It was nature pun cam What what you wanted? 2:00:06.360 --> 2:00:09.440 I'm the last? Yeah? What what all you wanted? That's 2:00:09.440 --> 2:00:11.960 what I wanted to do, dude. But you know what, 2:00:12.640 --> 2:00:15.520 my whole life, my whole career makes sense. I have 2:00:15.600 --> 2:00:17.360 a question if it wasn't for you, I have a 2:00:17.440 --> 2:00:19.840 question on that song. He said, that's why I'll never 2:00:19.960 --> 2:00:22.680 do a song with you. Was that directed anybody? Or 2:00:22.680 --> 2:00:27.720 was that just hat you're talking about somebody? Bro, he's 2:00:27.760 --> 2:00:31.880 super fatty. I know he was. Somebody was directing somebody, oh, 2:00:32.400 --> 2:00:35.400 because you know, it can also be universal just somebody 2:00:35.440 --> 2:00:39.520 I know this guy. That's why I'm not it was 2:00:39.600 --> 2:00:43.360 like Joseph on the block. It's very true because the 2:00:43.400 --> 2:00:49.400 thing about it is this, I'm very pretty prim I'm sorry. 2:00:50.280 --> 2:00:54.480 Sometimes you gotta beat. I'm very preddy, so I don't 2:00:54.520 --> 2:00:57.640 get ready time If you're trying to come up and 2:00:57.760 --> 2:01:00.880 you take a slight shot at me. I'm coming to 2:01:01.000 --> 2:01:04.280 fuck us my body. You want the rack, which is 2:01:04.400 --> 2:01:09.280 very just might go that's what That's who I am 2:01:09.680 --> 2:01:12.000 when I met him. This is how he looked at 2:01:12.760 --> 2:01:17.280 and all these twisting ban on. He's at the front door. Yo, 2:01:17.360 --> 2:01:19.440 we got session up at d N d Yo for 2:01:19.600 --> 2:01:24.600 me and look your stuffy Jose Luise not weeks. How 2:01:24.640 --> 2:01:32.880 you doing. He's like, yeah, l A R l A 2:01:33.200 --> 2:01:34.680 l A was really bumping with a lot of d 2:01:34.800 --> 2:01:37.640 J at that time. It was early, so we don't 2:01:37.640 --> 2:01:39.880 really know who he is yet. We just know who 2:01:40.120 --> 2:01:49.800 Littui's got that rock him around like m rules and 2:01:49.960 --> 2:01:56.120 around l A l A. That's my first meeting in him, 2:01:56.200 --> 2:02:00.440 not Pa Jose Louis to Noriega. He goes, who was 2:02:00.480 --> 2:02:04.400 in the wheats like like, don't forget a little dip 2:02:04.840 --> 2:02:08.240 is the reason why you got around and shoulder but 2:02:08.360 --> 2:02:10.360 the song was already out where like that's to do 2:02:10.760 --> 2:02:18.640 different and that's the verse that made me. I can't 2:02:18.680 --> 2:02:22.720 believe you know I got We just did a beat 2:02:22.760 --> 2:02:25.560 for you right now. Yea, let me tell you something. 2:02:25.600 --> 2:02:27.280 You know what we gotta do something where we make 2:02:27.320 --> 2:02:32.840 a beat together, which we've never done. We start things 2:02:32.880 --> 2:02:37.040 that dreat near that right now, because you know, you know, 2:02:37.440 --> 2:02:40.040 you know, you don't know if you're not you know, 2:02:40.400 --> 2:02:41.880 I don't know if you know. I don't know if 2:02:41.880 --> 2:02:44.480 you know. But wherever state you at, I'll fly there 2:02:44.880 --> 2:02:48.800 like that and I would just like thank you for 2:02:49.080 --> 2:02:53.400 lace and black poets out the black print. No no 2:02:53.600 --> 2:02:59.920 problems body that verse. But this is the reason why 2:03:00.400 --> 2:03:04.200 you're so much of important producer. You can go and 2:03:04.360 --> 2:03:07.240 you can work with Caristina and I got and then 2:03:07.240 --> 2:03:10.640 you can turn around and you still care. I love music. Listen, 2:03:10.920 --> 2:03:19.080 I love music. I love listen. I love That's what 2:03:19.160 --> 2:03:25.040 it is. I like I like messing with all styles 2:03:25.080 --> 2:03:31.160 of music because I am into country, blues, gospel, rock, past, yeah, prave. 2:03:31.280 --> 2:03:35.040 You is the tea you ever drink? Leans? Yeah? Yeah, 2:03:36.040 --> 2:03:41.440 screw by the way, but but the Leans. But even that, 2:03:42.520 --> 2:03:46.360 that's when it was like now's an epidemic. Was an 2:03:46.480 --> 2:03:49.200 epidemic then, and it was something that you just did 2:03:49.360 --> 2:03:52.240 every occasion, like going out to a bar in Heaven. 2:03:52.600 --> 2:03:54.320 I don't drink every day, you know, I got I 2:03:54.320 --> 2:03:55.680 got work to do it, a business, a hand or 2:03:55.760 --> 2:03:58.200 I stay focused from a five year old son. I'm focused, 2:03:58.760 --> 2:04:11.040 but I'm still question. We're about to open the car, 2:04:12.800 --> 2:04:16.560 finish his story. So I mean so a lot of 2:04:16.600 --> 2:04:19.240 the things again that are just out of control, are 2:04:19.320 --> 2:04:23.520 just way uh publicized, are promoted on a higher pedestal. 2:04:24.320 --> 2:04:28.040 Already did all that stuff. It's about living past that 2:04:28.680 --> 2:04:32.360 and being able to still function on what's the matters 2:04:32.400 --> 2:04:35.520 that keep you in the longevity bucket. I want to 2:04:35.560 --> 2:04:37.360 be in the longevity bucket. I don't want to be 2:04:37.480 --> 2:04:40.280 in the you know you had your time bucket. My 2:04:40.400 --> 2:04:42.560 bucket want. I want to go all the way even 2:04:42.840 --> 2:04:46.000 again when I'm gone, it's still hot. The gang starts 2:04:46.040 --> 2:04:50.160 still hot, start still hot because I care about not 2:04:50.480 --> 2:04:53.000 just his legacy and a high legacy as as a team, 2:04:53.400 --> 2:04:55.120 but his son. He has a sixteen year old son. 2:04:55.480 --> 2:04:57.680 I'm making sure his son to eating. I'm making sure 2:04:57.680 --> 2:05:01.320 your son getting everything that's his father, Tad. I don't 2:05:01.320 --> 2:05:06.800 think you the bone. I wouldn't deal right that. My 2:05:07.040 --> 2:05:10.160 motto is this, I can sleep at night. That's my 2:05:10.320 --> 2:05:12.960 mom That's the most important thing. Sleeping at night. Yeah, 2:05:13.040 --> 2:05:15.040 I can sleep at night. A lot of people you can. 2:05:15.200 --> 2:05:19.840 You don't understand that I don't have nightmares like anybody else, 2:05:20.240 --> 2:05:23.640 but my nightmares are clear from how I analyzed what 2:05:23.760 --> 2:05:25.920 I woke up to. You hand your business. Yeah, you 2:05:25.960 --> 2:05:28.800 can sleep and love man. My mind is strong man. 2:05:28.960 --> 2:05:33.120 So I'm gonna end this podcast, but I can't thank 2:05:33.160 --> 2:05:39.760 you brother helping helping me. Both of you both routed 2:05:39.800 --> 2:05:43.880 me personally because my career couldn't be complete. I could 2:05:43.920 --> 2:05:46.720 never complete my career without having a peat rock beat, 2:05:47.600 --> 2:05:51.680 premier beat appreciation. Hip hop is what I want to 2:05:51.800 --> 2:05:55.040 continue to represent. I want to continue to stand by it. 2:05:55.160 --> 2:05:58.880 I can't believe twenty five million and I hate this 2:05:59.040 --> 2:06:02.160 guy right here a me Brouse. You knew you had 2:06:04.120 --> 2:06:06.560 let me act. You should have told me on Wednesday. No, 2:06:09.000 --> 2:06:15.080 you just good friend. You deserve surprise, you Broser, you 2:06:15.160 --> 2:06:23.320 don't know that. Yeah, I love you. I can't believe 2:06:23.480 --> 2:06:27.040 just from him. You ask everything I do outside of 2:06:27.120 --> 2:06:30.640 hip hop. When I do hip hop, I keep it hud, 2:06:31.120 --> 2:06:34.200 keep it hood. Everything else I could do balance, slow songs, 2:06:34.200 --> 2:06:36.280 pop songs doesn't matter because I like that music too. 2:06:37.080 --> 2:06:40.720 Hip hop. I keep it, keep it hood because that's 2:06:40.720 --> 2:06:42.600 why I like to listen to it. When I buy it. 2:06:42.840 --> 2:06:45.840 Drive to it or have my radio if you'll always 2:06:45.880 --> 2:06:49.280 either my radio. You guys are the bed rock. Please 2:06:49.600 --> 2:06:52.960 stay listen. If it wasn't for you too, brothers, I 2:06:53.000 --> 2:06:56.920 wouldn't have a childhood. Brothers. That's well deserved. What you got. 2:06:57.880 --> 2:07:00.280 It's better and you could say it was ain't on. 2:07:00.440 --> 2:07:03.400 Let's be on rap. This is a podcast. They should 2:07:03.440 --> 2:07:10.280 make it platinum though, why they make it go steps, 2:07:10.400 --> 2:07:19.240 it's not twenty five right, Let's let you know what 2:07:21.760 --> 2:07:26.760 you know what he actual's right, it should be, It's 2:07:26.800 --> 2:07:30.600 should be. I'm just happy to be here right now, 2:07:32.920 --> 2:07:36.640 and let's give thanks man. The best producers of all 2:07:36.800 --> 2:07:40.440 times have just now sat down absolutely all to drink. 2:07:40.560 --> 2:07:45.640 Champs and Jim being jam. You're picking up Jim bumping, 2:07:45.840 --> 2:07:48.640 can't Chase cut the check and we would have one 2:07:48.680 --> 2:07:52.880 more shot yet shot. I'm saying he's going to because 2:07:54.920 --> 2:07:56.680 at the end of the day and we're gonna say 2:07:56.800 --> 2:08:00.240 and watching the battle, thank you. Because when I seen 2:08:00.320 --> 2:08:02.960 the battle and when I seen that this they said, 2:08:03.040 --> 2:08:09.640 this is the first time excuse me, the whole thing. Yeah, 2:08:09.680 --> 2:08:14.920 I definitely have a shot. When they said that this 2:08:15.080 --> 2:08:22.520 is the first time, uh new stance is battled terrible. 2:08:23.080 --> 2:08:25.040 I felt terrible. They said that this is the first 2:08:25.080 --> 2:08:27.400 time to produce is first all, and I knew that 2:08:27.560 --> 2:08:29.840 you'all guys have done this. I knew that just Blaze 2:08:29.960 --> 2:08:33.280 actually had done it with Alchemists before, and so how 2:08:33.360 --> 2:08:37.240 want I wanted to actually big you brothers up because 2:08:37.600 --> 2:08:41.440 I understand what it is. But I also understand that 2:08:41.560 --> 2:08:48.000 Swiss also knows the game. He's the student of the game. 2:08:49.120 --> 2:08:54.000 He never said that. 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