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Speaker 1: like yo. He do that for like ten minutes before
Speaker 1: you saying senate and he was like, yo, yo, prem
Speaker 1: I got just do name the rapper Nasa. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: you probably didn't know that, but um, it was so
Speaker 1: honor to work with both for you brothers. Your brothers
Speaker 1: are hip hop. When I think of hip hop, your name.
Speaker 1: I know both of your names start with a P,
Speaker 1: but it feels like it feels like your name should
Speaker 1: be a you know, the first time I met you,
Speaker 1: D and D. Let's go to D and D Studios
Speaker 1: front door. You know what he's saying yo from me.
Speaker 1: It was something man, Yo, my name is Jose Luise
Speaker 1: like and the thing is the L A L A
Speaker 1: regular h okay, we got him drinking. I'm fifty years old, man,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know you an experience. You
Speaker 1: gonna do one whiskey or even nobody. You're trying to
Speaker 1: give him that shot and then you call another one.
Speaker 1: But but the crazy thing is when I heard l
Speaker 1: A l A right for you opened up blands Luise, Luise,
Speaker 1: that's how we do. That's like some ye rock. I
Speaker 1: used to hanging queens with Flush. I heard you play
Speaker 1: unreleased Reasons one on me, Casina. What's that unreleased Flush versus?
Speaker 1: That was worldwide remix? I never put at that beat.
Speaker 1: That beat. We got to do that back for y'all.
Speaker 1: I owe you're right it for y'all. I gotta do
Speaker 1: that beat for y'all. I owe you. I also pick
Speaker 1: you off for me in the supreme. How people don't
Speaker 1: know Rocks the person that plugged me in? What's the crame?
Speaker 1: Let's make some You don't smoke right? Yeah I do,
Speaker 1: but I don't care. Just don't care. Hard I did.
Speaker 1: I didn't mind, you know, ninety two. So let's let
Speaker 1: her still. Now, let's take let's take it from the
Speaker 1: beginning premiere. How did you and and and Google even
Speaker 1: me I met Guru because um it goes back to
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties seven into eighty eight. My good friend who's
Speaker 1: still my man, Carlos Garza in Houston, Texas, helped me
Speaker 1: get a job at He's he's a Boston so Wild
Speaker 1: Pitch Records is a husband and wife label. Shout the
Speaker 1: Stu finding a Search was later surgeries later it was
Speaker 1: just Stu finding his wife. No one else. They're now
Speaker 1: the rap permotion Guru was a person that would go
Speaker 1: over to their house every day and then listen to
Speaker 1: every demo that came in. They had Lott already signed
Speaker 1: whose Apache recipes that Patty's brother and latt did a
Speaker 1: lot of writing, you know with Latifa and the Flavor Unit,
Speaker 1: and he had a record called This Got Flavor which
Speaker 1: was big in New York at the time. Dad in
Speaker 1: putting on the his That's how forty five King came
Speaker 1: into doing the Wild Pitch work. And then Chill rob
Speaker 1: g came along who was also part of Lattis crew
Speaker 1: in the Flavor Unit, and he got signed the Wild Pitch.
Speaker 1: Gang Star got signed after that, and so they had
Speaker 1: a red called the Lesson. I wasn't in the group.
Speaker 1: Then uh three, Gangster goes to three different chambers. The
Speaker 1: first chamber was Big Sugar and Google Gang Star. It
Speaker 1: was Big Sugar Google when Google when Google was going
Speaker 1: to school at Morehouse. So they they're both from Boston. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And it was Shug brother swab D. They were the
Speaker 1: first gang Star. Then swab D stepped out and it
Speaker 1: became to him Sees Damon d Ski, but Gurgle wrote
Speaker 1: all the rhymes and it was Guru and then DJ
Speaker 1: Mike D but he was just called DJ want to
Speaker 1: be Down, but DJ one the number two name let
Speaker 1: her be and want to be down. It was one
Speaker 1: of the number two letter being and down one will
Speaker 1: be down. So he, uh, he has a brother named Gangstar.
Speaker 1: T you know what I'm saying. Yea, So all that
Speaker 1: trickled down into the name. But Sugar and Gurgle originated Sugar.
Speaker 1: Everything he's doing the thing the movies now like yeah,
Speaker 1: we're working with Larry David all that stuff. So so
Speaker 1: from there, um, when grew moved in New York and
Speaker 1: the rest of the members didn't. She got locked up
Speaker 1: for a while, so not now it's just grew on
Speaker 1: his own. But any time work wasn't involved with any money,
Speaker 1: no one would come up to New York to help
Speaker 1: him doing any movement around, hopping around to get getting
Speaker 1: the club, get on the radio. They weren't. They weren't
Speaker 1: really gettingradio played until they dropped their second single called
Speaker 1: Buster Move Boy, which is when I heard him. I
Speaker 1: was in New York at the time for the summer
Speaker 1: and read Alert was cutting it up, Molly Marl was
Speaker 1: cutting it up. And if they're playing it, I thought
Speaker 1: they were called game stop because of his Boston accent.
Speaker 1: He's his gang style, the knowledge, that's a positivity, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: But this is right just right before how anything in
Speaker 1: control was just about to stop bubbling, but before Magic left.
Speaker 1: But uh and chilei Q used to be up there
Speaker 1: and and and the Kevy Cab so when and YouTube.
Speaker 1: Of course, when I met with group, I met you
Speaker 1: had the reds the mic. Yeah. Yeah, He's like he's like, no,
Speaker 1: keep it going, Yeah, he'll keep going, He'll keep going.
Speaker 1: So from that point, uh, those three artists were the
Speaker 1: label Cheer Rob Glatt and Gangstar and forty five King
Speaker 1: was the only producer that worked after that after Donald
Speaker 1: D produced the first single. So from there, uh, Google
Speaker 1: used to go through a box of the demos when
Speaker 1: every time mail came in, because back then it was
Speaker 1: about mailing your stuff, walking it in Carlos snugging my
Speaker 1: my my demo over to STU just be you know.
Speaker 1: I was in a group called mcas and Control and
Speaker 1: Textas and my m C was from Boston's name was
Speaker 1: top Ski. We were we're uh, we was keeno at
Speaker 1: top Ski Sugar Pop. They heard my demo, but they
Speaker 1: didn't like my m C. They're like me and they
Speaker 1: were like, we really want you. But I was like
Speaker 1: basically seen the beats and my scratching. They were bugging
Speaker 1: off my sus huge back. So I didn't really want
Speaker 1: to leave my group, so I said I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I gotta stay stay doing what I do. Time passed.
Speaker 1: My MC pretty much got frustrated after going shopping other deals.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a deal, so he said, I'm joining
Speaker 1: the military. I thought he was just bluffed. One day
Speaker 1: we're at the house, shout to Gordon Franklin. The whole
Speaker 1: Franklin family, Gary Art and Recipes and Marland Franklin. We
Speaker 1: were staying at that house. I thought we were going
Speaker 1: to college together. That's how I met them. And next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, the bell rings on the weekend and the
Speaker 1: recruiting officers at the door. Yeah. Man, yeah, I'm looking
Speaker 1: for Theodore Campbell and I'm like for what he said,
Speaker 1: he signed he's joined the baby and I thought I
Speaker 1: was like, I thought he was lying, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: your top the other on the basement cause we all
Speaker 1: lived together, and he's like, yo, I'm out. He has
Speaker 1: his backpacked already, Like how long did you did you?
Speaker 1: Did you join? He said for four years? M yeah,
Speaker 1: he said four years and already met Top everything. I'm
Speaker 1: like four years, so I'm not gonna wait for you know,
Speaker 1: four years he said, yo'ut do your thing and that's
Speaker 1: not called back to the wild. Fish said, yo, my man,
Speaker 1: my man left are now I'm available to now he
Speaker 1: lived in the group because that's my front man and
Speaker 1: the groups. I gotta want you in the group. So
Speaker 1: that's how I joined Gangstar. Google on my tape and
Speaker 1: Lord fer Nessus tape that's our's got signed to wild
Speaker 1: pitch and that's how I end up. That's the first
Speaker 1: artist I ever produced was besides, let's take some noise
Speaker 1: for that mans like that? Okay, so now, p Yeah,
Speaker 1: how did you meet cr y'all went to school together
Speaker 1: through some street guys, and um, you know when I
Speaker 1: heard you know, there was timing he could wrap or whatever,
Speaker 1: and when I heard his voice in high school because
Speaker 1: he was always a producer. He was a producer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well England hood. I started doing my high school parties dans.
Speaker 1: You know, I became a DJ in my front motherfucker's
Speaker 1: you know, flocked to so I met C. He got
Speaker 1: a distinctive voice. We did like fifty sixty demos in
Speaker 1: my basement, four tracks, four track like and got signed
Speaker 1: off that ship. I mean, like who's taking like dance
Speaker 1: to the drummers beat and making songs, you know, taking
Speaker 1: the break beats? That man Lenny from the Bronx was
Speaker 1: street beat and I would make beats out of them
Speaker 1: sens just normal ship. And then because my girl is
Speaker 1: like it's like the Bronx being the place of hipp
Speaker 1: and birthplaces, right, mont Vernon is like next this cousin.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so y'all had to have hip hop justice
Speaker 1: originally from the Bronx bro. You know, when I was young,
Speaker 1: I went to Bronx Room Park, not knowing what was
Speaker 1: gonna know what I'm saying, Oh, I know as I've
Speaker 1: seen a bunch of cool dudes smoking, drinking and listening
Speaker 1: to hip hop and had me. And then when I
Speaker 1: turned seven years old, I met James Brown. What and
Speaker 1: I that's gonna change it? Rock your cousin heavy dr
Speaker 1: It was my cousin of course family. That's some peace, bro.
Speaker 1: And you know he took me under this wing. And
Speaker 1: that's how I learned everything. That's why I meant everybody.
Speaker 1: Before I even became who I Watch, I was Teddy Wiley.
Speaker 1: I was in the studio how we teach reminisces Old
Speaker 1: Were You? Which is such an iconic song for iconic song,
Speaker 1: but now that is about actual person, correct, my man?
Speaker 1: Can we bring that down? Troy right? Just tour have
Speaker 1: you being the boards him and kid plays road managers
Speaker 1: playing around you know who's always be on tour plane
Speaker 1: what I mean? And they were playing with empty guards
Speaker 1: kids and throwing them, throwing them, trying to hit each other.
Speaker 1: And you don't never hurt. You know, I missed the steps.
Speaker 1: He was at the edge of the stage. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what's going to and have called me and started crying,
Speaker 1: and you know, the whole all up. I don't even today,
Speaker 1: to this day, I don't even know how I was
Speaker 1: able to listen to a record and make a beat
Speaker 1: because I was so distraught that man in the whole
Speaker 1: hood was he was infamous in the hood. But you
Speaker 1: know how legendary that. So I didn't do it. You know,
Speaker 1: you can do that. And when I spent the sample,
Speaker 1: you know, I was with extra p wounds in Queens.
Speaker 1: We would dig in and I found a record, damn mean,
Speaker 1: and we you know, took it home, fun with it,
Speaker 1: you know, and next thing, you know, I put you know,
Speaker 1: after the beat was made and everything like that, we
Speaker 1: got in the Stuco came with the lyrics and like,
Speaker 1: but he didn't have the beat, like he already had
Speaker 1: the rhymes rope, but he needed the beat to match
Speaker 1: the rhymes. And that's very like it's not easy to
Speaker 1: do that. So it mild a raid in and it's
Speaker 1: just like classically talked about his aunt and you did
Speaker 1: you know that was going to be as classic as
Speaker 1: it is when you when I had Charlie Brown for
Speaker 1: me to Sais and he was there for a mixtap
Speaker 1: and we were just all that right, I just let
Speaker 1: it out like I ain't even care if he you know,
Speaker 1: who was around, because I was thinking about Troy and
Speaker 1: he started crying, and then the engineers darting, and I said,
Speaker 1: I think we got something, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: the only thing I don't I don't like about that
Speaker 1: record is that I wish I made Like, wait, what
Speaker 1: what are you say? It's wrong about it? It's a
Speaker 1: lot of I'm so now I gotta take it to
Speaker 1: one of my favorite games back the Massive Pill one
Speaker 1: of us. I got old night on it. Okay, so
Speaker 1: Massive Hill, what drugs was you smoking? You know it's
Speaker 1: crazy because I mean everybody has the rors of of
Speaker 1: getting lifted. I mean now to pay because the early
Speaker 1: young kids. It's not my thing, but I mean we
Speaker 1: all have ways of escaping and and uh music and
Speaker 1: and drugs and drinking and sex and all that sports.
Speaker 1: It has always been in a twine. But it's all
Speaker 1: about how strong your mind is or how weak your
Speaker 1: mind is. I've always kept your wrong mind to know
Speaker 1: how to turn the switch off and get back to
Speaker 1: manage it properly. I'm glad I made Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: were hot, good with you know what. I've heard that
Speaker 1: it's happening that it was a good old day at
Speaker 1: ninety three in a ninety four that came bout ninety
Speaker 1: four song came by ninety three. But I mean, those
Speaker 1: are the good old days of just yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: you know you were torched before you go on the
Speaker 1: lab and start cooking something off and and he was
Speaker 1: with them without I mean, my mind approach is still
Speaker 1: the same. So I think Goodness said that it is
Speaker 1: because I'm still active, even if fifty years old, does
Speaker 1: the work is still coming. We're still active, which we
Speaker 1: still are addicted to making beats and we're forming a
Speaker 1: DJ and we're like, we're but but Master Hill was
Speaker 1: a really was. We was actually making it as a
Speaker 1: google to radio because we wouldn't getting regular rotation on
Speaker 1: radio as an improper group. But like who always said
Speaker 1: we got platinum, respect Like all the platinum artists are
Speaker 1: loving us, but we can't sell some of records. But
Speaker 1: everybody that that's platinum and selling millions loved Gangsters we
Speaker 1: were like, let's making radio, making fun of radio. When
Speaker 1: I said, I want to make something that sounds like
Speaker 1: you're on an elevator, gonna pere and so that was
Speaker 1: my mind stage. I wanted to make the records. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about your logic to the closest to what
Speaker 1: that's what. There's a lot of times I pre hear
Speaker 1: the song and I'm looking for the stuff that matches
Speaker 1: my what I'm looking for. That's why the drums usually
Speaker 1: come first. But you know, because it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's going whatnots on this one, I'm going in pizza
Speaker 1: on this one, going sub on this you know, we
Speaker 1: kind of already know where we're gonna go. In the
Speaker 1: early days of my gangs Are career, there's three people
Speaker 1: that really taught me how to get to the level
Speaker 1: of actually four of the level of that where I
Speaker 1: should now I'll take anybody on our any He taught
Speaker 1: me how to feel to show biz some dr TC
Speaker 1: show biz, g taught me to thinking about how to chop.
Speaker 1: I learned how shopping show biz. And then large Professor
Speaker 1: just showed me crazy traits that each come of miles
Speaker 1: and show with us because we we met and we
Speaker 1: just go to Ms. Mackenzie's Ausodes who was the d
Speaker 1: j's mom stir cutting k scratch, I mean k cutting
Speaker 1: such scratch. So we just go to the house. So
Speaker 1: I was around large and Pete a lot in they
Speaker 1: were way more advanced on the programming from from me.
Speaker 1: We all way to the records of the sampling, but
Speaker 1: my skill didn't really get to a point until around
Speaker 1: ninety two, you know what I'm saying, when I started
Speaker 1: working on Boom Bad with ca Arres, because the original
Speaker 1: rap were not that, not that song, but the majority
Speaker 1: of again Mortal thought, yeah, out of here. Mortal thought
Speaker 1: carrots want to tacks and you did? You got killed?
Speaker 1: That you killed was just a laugh at radio for
Speaker 1: not playing us, and then it turned out to be
Speaker 1: our biggest that you do it. You know, you know
Speaker 1: what else I gotta I gotta go straight into it.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, stick kids. That was a true story,
Speaker 1: just to get a rep. We just got idea. We
Speaker 1: were living in the Bronx and where the Third Street
Speaker 1: had moved out of East New York and I was
Speaker 1: living in the Yea. We moved to the Bronx one
Speaker 1: of a Third Street that's how I met. That's how
Speaker 1: I met. That's how that Tenancy from the n Y Jeez, well,
Speaker 1: that's why I met Smiley to get town Nutcracker from
Speaker 1: the Nutcracker. I lived on a third and Andrews and
Speaker 1: they all that they all live down the hill on
Speaker 1: Andrews was hood. So having was we got our first check.
Speaker 1: I was moving into brew And with grand from my sellers. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was about to be the um music director for
Speaker 1: the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, so he his life
Speaker 1: and Hiss something still still living there before they moved
Speaker 1: to l A. They you know, so they were kind
Speaker 1: of back and forth. So around the time before he
Speaker 1: may officially moved, he we all moved together. So now
Speaker 1: as brand for his wife, his son, me and Google
Speaker 1: all living together on three seventy for Washington and Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: So we moved back to Brooklyn. We both bought our
Speaker 1: first brand new cause and you know, I had a
Speaker 1: whip already, but I'm up to the MPV in the
Speaker 1: cars for the time for sure. But it was very
Speaker 1: famous everyone. It was one of a mind boy cars
Speaker 1: because it was the sound system everybody knew me for.
Speaker 1: So when when that happened, grew about a four runner.
Speaker 1: These went the four Runners style body style grew got
Speaker 1: into a problem with some dudes in Brooklyn, and uh,
Speaker 1: he tried to stick him dead. Yeah, and then and
Speaker 1: they took the car. They took the time toime pass
Speaker 1: looking for cats, looking cats, couldn't find a car. One day,
Speaker 1: we're just four gps. Yeah, okay. One day we're moving around.
Speaker 1: We see the car start chasing after the guy going
Speaker 1: after him. He's high speed chase. Cops see us start
Speaker 1: chasing too, going after him. He's like, that's how called.
Speaker 1: That's our call because they want to pull us over.
Speaker 1: They go after car. He keeps on driving. He the
Speaker 1: driver hits an ice cream truck and dies. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: it's crazy because grew at a picture of the day
Speaker 1: he got the car and he's in front of it
Speaker 1: going like like, yeah, I got my car going to
Speaker 1: the precinct. When they brought the car, it was all
Speaker 1: swistin and everything from the from the crash and it
Speaker 1: was all Smich stuff and groups, I gotta take a
Speaker 1: picture body standing by going first before. He said I'm
Speaker 1: writing a song about this, and we wrote the song Anti.
Speaker 1: The album only has two verses. When we came out
Speaker 1: with the video with Fat Freddie and did that. He said,
Speaker 1: we need was on that. That's me scratching their dead hook.
Speaker 1: I mean they did voice on whatever funding for you,
Speaker 1: they're gonna so so Fat Freddie said, we need a
Speaker 1: closing way of the video, and being that the guy
Speaker 1: did die in the end, he said, we gotta do
Speaker 1: a third verse of Greup wrote the third verse and
Speaker 1: that's why the twelve inch has a definitely type of
Speaker 1: bounce and it's been re recorded as three verses. So
Speaker 1: that yeah, and that crazy that we actually found the
Speaker 1: dude to took off after cops go after after us
Speaker 1: and once we say no, we're trying to get our
Speaker 1: call back, and the dudes running and crashed on the
Speaker 1: camp for your ice cream trunk. That's why you gotta
Speaker 1: love game Star. This is why you got a little
Speaker 1: true star. You got now Pete right, the world is young?
Speaker 1: How was I hating that? Now? That meant still when
Speaker 1: you heard hold on, hold that holder for a second,
Speaker 1: because I want to say, arguably might be my favorite
Speaker 1: record on Back's my favorite album of all time in
Speaker 1: mine too, not because I'm on it either. It would
Speaker 1: have been my favorite even if I ain't on it
Speaker 1: at all, Glad. I just want you to describe. He
Speaker 1: was there just to watch, all right. So now you
Speaker 1: meet this kid that last professor correct brings you to them,
Speaker 1: and then they say they want you to work on
Speaker 1: Hi Mound burning. And there's a story where I had
Speaker 1: not waiting. I didn't even realize. I don't even remember.
Speaker 1: He said that I was in the car talking to
Speaker 1: a girl and he was behind me. But you know,
Speaker 1: he's behind me to get out, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, But he waited. He just stood in the
Speaker 1: car shot exactly. But still we got it together. We
Speaker 1: got that stairs, right. I go through a couple of
Speaker 1: as twelve hundred dicks, right, the first three, the second
Speaker 1: one I put disc I put in. When I played it,
Speaker 1: he just said, oh wait, wait, wait, wait wait and
Speaker 1: just stood in close. And I'm like, okay, that means
Speaker 1: he likes it. But I just knew it, man, And
Speaker 1: this is the world as yours you're saying. He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: he wanted the same one, but I want you to
Speaker 1: do the world some hip hop saying. And then we
Speaker 1: got in the studio, went to battery. That's where we
Speaker 1: did it. You know, mixed assuming alf job records. I
Speaker 1: watch you later scratches one tape Premore came in there
Speaker 1: and I did the scratch. I think as a quiet
Speaker 1: as I've ever been to. I just standings like this
Speaker 1: looking and I was just like, what the world don't know?
Speaker 1: Does the world know who nas is? Like? Again? Half
Speaker 1: time was half time? What about back to the grill again?
Speaker 1: Was back to the grill before happening? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was half building at this point, right, so yeah,
Speaker 1: the buzz already this was crashed through Matic because Super
Speaker 1: was out when it was done and finished. Man, but man, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's this? Three jobs on the half three at the
Speaker 1: time that I only had represented, but not the one
Speaker 1: on the album. The one is on the Atmatic is
Speaker 1: a remix? I was not the one on the vinyl
Speaker 1: on the single, No, just the one that's the one
Speaker 1: was on the album. One is only a period? Is
Speaker 1: the remax at the baseline? Hold on? What's the originals?
Speaker 1: I don't have to up do? Yeah, but I can't
Speaker 1: believe I'm make that story because I still can't believe
Speaker 1: what is this? We celebrate overs being congratulated by Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't wanted another FLAQ I just didn't know I
Speaker 1: was gonna get it a podcast. Thank you, hip Hop,
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's the fact that you know, um, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys know what. We only interview legends,
Speaker 1: not because we don't have love for the new generation,
Speaker 1: because we do. But I feel like in hip hop,
Speaker 1: hip hop is the only place that you get ten
Speaker 1: years in, you get fifteen years in and they say
Speaker 1: you oh, and that right. We're all older, but we
Speaker 1: have old Thomas music. But we are true to what
Speaker 1: we did. Absolutely were leaving. So I just want to
Speaker 1: keep the interviewing legends and for us to have a
Speaker 1: twenty five million flat congratulations. Congratulations and I hate you
Speaker 1: why he knew he had? Man, it was supposed to be.
Speaker 1: When did you get hey listen man? Yeah, like I
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Speaker 1: gotta You always gotta big up a wrong because if
Speaker 1: you go to a hair wrong party, be come around.
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Speaker 1: with rapper and R and d J. Then now, so
Speaker 1: you do the world as yours. They said after you
Speaker 1: did the record, he was just happy for happy. But
Speaker 1: did you did You had the full sight just to
Speaker 1: think that this guy would actually like you know this guy.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of anticipation even when you guys
Speaker 1: were working on the project. Nobody in the game rap
Speaker 1: that it was like rock him again, right right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he stood in his own light, but he was in
Speaker 1: probably inspired by the rap rock him question you know
Speaker 1: question but it's open. Yeah, that was that was That
Speaker 1: was the one. This is new and I've been coming
Speaker 1: and we were confident and he was confident. I was
Speaker 1: happy were There are a lot of records on that
Speaker 1: project that that didn't make the project that you guys
Speaker 1: are that it was that the only beat you made.
Speaker 1: Oh so it'll be one and done. One hit the
Speaker 1: repeet that going, uh, they're all flowing away for and
Speaker 1: then you took it the remix and hold yeah talking
Speaker 1: about okay, yeah, yeah too. Remixes had me all the
Speaker 1: same wait oh wait wait wait wait it was oh
Speaker 1: like in a good way, but like damn, my actually said,
Speaker 1: have just did a quick remix, you know, but they're
Speaker 1: both amazing and it totally totally different, you know, different approaches.
Speaker 1: His talents are amazing. Que tip shout out to him.
Speaker 1: So now you did, said, three joints represent the Memory
Speaker 1: Lane and New York State of Mind. Memory Lane, Memory Lane,
Speaker 1: Memory memory Lane, Me, Me and me and NAS. We
Speaker 1: had a debate on that one because I actually didn't
Speaker 1: like that one. This is prime. This is the crazy
Speaker 1: shot I've been in the studio with three roll. Yo.
Speaker 1: You're really a perfection this, yo, because I do it
Speaker 1: on the spot. Ye, you really affected, yo. I went
Speaker 1: to six times. We couldn't get to beat right, and
Speaker 1: he said he came to me. He came to me
Speaker 1: and said, what's your room, nickel? I said, no, front
Speaker 1: drop glasses. I believe that's an incredible juice. Then you
Speaker 1: made the beat in two fucking seconds. Black that No,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of big records when I performed no.
Speaker 1: But the thing about it is is that what you happen,
Speaker 1: you have to hear the votes first time, because but
Speaker 1: what Armaticul is one of the best hip hop albums
Speaker 1: for so much from understanding, I wasn't on the report
Speaker 1: and now you got me on another and all that.
Speaker 1: This was the year Reunion merged as a solo artist too.
Speaker 1: I mean, your first, your first nor y'all. I was sick.
Speaker 1: That was like, it's sick thinking. I mean like that,
Speaker 1: like to this day, don't want to get back to
Speaker 1: baby more. What happened was we wanted to promote be
Speaker 1: so bad everybody we for some reason, our schedules was
Speaker 1: messed up. And then we went to D and D.
Speaker 1: We went to D n D and I felt like
Speaker 1: he needed something from us and we just kept wasn't
Speaker 1: given to And then you just the sixth second I
Speaker 1: remember the sixth secon he said and screened on and
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, and I'm I'm as saying I
Speaker 1: gotten too. I was like, yo, just meet me this,
Speaker 1: you know, I know he's on. He was like go
Speaker 1: feeling like you know you And then and then that
Speaker 1: day and you can't even like not sorry the crazy ship.
Speaker 1: He said, what's your opening line? And I said that
Speaker 1: So you had that rhyme already. Really, I had the
Speaker 1: rhyme already. I just was waiting for something perfect to
Speaker 1: go perfectly said, and he said say it again. He
Speaker 1: made the whole. I was like, right my mind, I
Speaker 1: was like day to be at the television. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: turntable set up on a big old nineteen seventies television
Speaker 1: with the with the wood and everything with the record
Speaker 1: player on the two and I got the turntable in
Speaker 1: the mix on their pulse. That right there, but going yo,
Speaker 1: I still can't believe turn table on a television seven
Speaker 1: And that's what fair with the pan of sis to
Speaker 1: everybody in the hood and the projects have them on radio.
Speaker 1: We gotta do right now. Promote is described in these
Speaker 1: studios because I'm not hip hopcast on the studios was
Speaker 1: actually not nowhere in neighbor hood, but it was motherfucker
Speaker 1: was in the city. But once you get in the
Speaker 1: D n D, you're in the project. But that was
Speaker 1: an automatic that was that was a heroin block. When
Speaker 1: we started working there in ninety two. That was a
Speaker 1: heroin block. So during that time, a relevant private before
Speaker 1: y'all try to come. It was drugs central and there
Speaker 1: was no lights so it was very dark, and ran
Speaker 1: a newspaper right across the street. So we was always
Speaker 1: beat with them. And then there was a lot of
Speaker 1: fighting and threats and and I'm gonna get my gun
Speaker 1: and all this crazy stuff back then, and and it
Speaker 1: was just I remember a heavy decan came by and said,
Speaker 1: do we really gotta finish the sid But you demanded
Speaker 1: that people get everything, So so how am I had
Speaker 1: to go? I went? I went and went over to
Speaker 1: Hip Factory to finished working for him. And he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is grimy brame and I was like, Yo, that's
Speaker 1: how I do it. You had a machine that had
Speaker 1: Philly cigars and what is it called? With bamboo and Philly?
Speaker 1: Did you have called living there as well? I think
Speaker 1: you're hid car. It was all kind of weird. It was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was in the dude. We had to
Speaker 1: restock at least every week whatever were being bought. You know, kid,
Speaker 1: you not. I used to be like, because you know,
Speaker 1: every time we used to go to the studio, we
Speaker 1: always stopped the cigars. But we went to Dnja, we
Speaker 1: never stopped. We said just go straight there. It was
Speaker 1: a little bit like like more expensive, but it was
Speaker 1: like worth it. It was that recently Pete, Kanye and
Speaker 1: jay Z just you to do with joy describe what
Speaker 1: was that like? Going to win mean Black Sea? Sorry
Speaker 1: I didn't. So he was being a kid in a
Speaker 1: candy store to me, gotten his new whip brand new
Speaker 1: whip tags. Don't meet him kid cutting in Hawaii, burning
Speaker 1: the road, come zero to sixty in less than three seconds.
Speaker 1: That's that's how hot that got pulled over. Police let
Speaker 1: him go. But now when he gives you that call,
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, you represent the
Speaker 1: purest form of hip hope. So when you get a
Speaker 1: call from Kanye, what is your first reaction. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna bring on my knowledge around And when I got there,
Speaker 1: he actually impressed me with what he knew what I'm
Speaker 1: saying and from my interludes to just like music in
Speaker 1: general and how he respects it. I knew we was
Speaker 1: onto something good from the start. So I started helping
Speaker 1: him out, like run away or last me in the bathroom,
Speaker 1: helping him out doing little beats, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: just getting the popping. But when we got together into
Speaker 1: the Joy. I didn't know jay Z was gonna be on.
Speaker 1: My engineer at the time was young Gurgle Gurgle that
Speaker 1: was young at the time at that time. So I
Speaker 1: was working with him and you know, he called me
Speaker 1: and he said, yo, listen to this. And I was
Speaker 1: driving at the time and he eats Boye Scott on there.
Speaker 1: That was familiar to me because Familie pulled over soun
Speaker 1: who that who that be? He's like, listen, listenariculated again
Speaker 1: and I had He's like, jay Z, is that jay
Speaker 1: Zy get something together and find only he finally gets
Speaker 1: on the feat and it happened through Kande, So let
Speaker 1: the racket drive get it really good. I was happy
Speaker 1: for that, even though Premo was already you know, deep
Speaker 1: into jay Z. Let now premon you will actually on
Speaker 1: a reason moved out correct, Okay, lot was done to
Speaker 1: dn D. That's correct. Credits sate dn D. So now
Speaker 1: this kid comes. Now you already worked with NAS albums
Speaker 1: already out. Uh, you already crowned the top producer. But
Speaker 1: now this guy comes to you. It got some Brad,
Speaker 1: But I know you. You don't give a funk about Brad.
Speaker 1: I know you and did you know him from Original Flavor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know before that, before that day, I knew Jay
Speaker 1: probably about eighties seven because Jazz was on E M
Speaker 1: MY and then even when we got signed T M I,
Speaker 1: which was the Christmas the same distribution, JA was so
Speaker 1: would always come up there with Jazz. Oh so, anytime
Speaker 1: Jazz will show up to any club or whatever, Jay
Speaker 1: was always with him. And back then Jay had the
Speaker 1: big long dukiek. Then we're gonna we're gonna get squashed
Speaker 1: with Ja. We were talking about that yesterday. Just drink
Speaker 1: chance squash beats and uh so, being a character you
Speaker 1: what did he say to you? He says Prem because
Speaker 1: you've seen him in the industry. And one thing about
Speaker 1: Green Prem don't give everybody a beat. No, you gotta
Speaker 1: prove yourself real MC to get a beat. Complain. So
Speaker 1: what did jay Z do that you said, I'm gonna fun. Well,
Speaker 1: even when it got to the point of him hanging
Speaker 1: with lit Prigonal Flavor, that's when I was selling in
Speaker 1: the Bronze and Chop down the block and so that
Speaker 1: down University down there, down the other way down the
Speaker 1: hill from from where we were, uh you know, but
Speaker 1: then it goes up hill, down everything down the hill,
Speaker 1: up the hill were the they were down the hill
Speaker 1: from from where I was, and uh so, um so,
Speaker 1: being I knew j already, it's crazy because Big L
Speaker 1: was already saying, Yo, you know if you know this
Speaker 1: a big L with with with J a lot, but
Speaker 1: also j R. Yeah, yeah, they were. They were merging
Speaker 1: into doing some work, which is how the rock Fellers
Speaker 1: situation was about to happen. But but I knew Jay
Speaker 1: also aside from the jazz ole when he threw king
Speaker 1: So I said, we came about Mr Mr C's from
Speaker 1: LG Projects, and then Mr C moved in. I think
Speaker 1: it was just hard to somebody's house right there, People
Speaker 1: to your home, come on family affair story. I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry we spread love shot down the flight. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: getting people that about the high contact because I've seen
Speaker 1: people go and I'm like, hey, you know told me,
Speaker 1: you know told me to and I want you to
Speaker 1: finish your story please because fans your fans against all, right,
Speaker 1: But I was actually drinking with Joe Pashi one night.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't he just stunning on us right now, you
Speaker 1: didn't just the fans like finish, but he would not
Speaker 1: let me take a shot without looking at And this
Speaker 1: is old school because the nineties, so everybody else from
Speaker 1: Queens moved to Long Island. I was the only fucking
Speaker 1: asshole to moved to Jersey, and so I was, you know,
Speaker 1: I was like Almonkst you know, the tie. For some reason,
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I always moved next to
Speaker 1: the tie of mafia. I'm sorry, but it's always something
Speaker 1: I lived. You look at the Queens, you gotta look
Speaker 1: at I point, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I always take
Speaker 1: a hardcore Italians and and they just went and I say,
Speaker 1: why why I gotta look out? They said, because in
Speaker 1: the mafia, the person can't look at the eye when
Speaker 1: they take a show. If that's the person is gonna
Speaker 1: shoot you. And you know, back then it was like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's not normal. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been living about that and I've been aiming one. Somebody,
Speaker 1: don't do it. I would say, hey, excuse me, just
Speaker 1: always look at me, and it's a it's a very
Speaker 1: very fun thing. Well in general, look at you. In
Speaker 1: the period, his reason moved out off, so by the
Speaker 1: time he got to read did reson three? I did,
Speaker 1: and I did the Evils. Wait, wait a minute, he
Speaker 1: just three for three and everybody man sucking illmatic and
Speaker 1: three yea and you gotta by that time me and
Speaker 1: James Lee does it so well. Um, But I was
Speaker 1: on WBLS at the time and I was doing radio,
Speaker 1: so Clark Kent brought jay Z up there to let
Speaker 1: me here in my lifetime the single that they remember themselves,
Speaker 1: the original, because they had the one that I can't
Speaker 1: get with that sause money that's I'm met sauce. So
Speaker 1: when they brought it up during my commercial break and
Speaker 1: I heard it, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: this out out of commercial break. They're like, but you
Speaker 1: just listen to you you don't play it now. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: open the show with it. Next thing, you know, Jay's like,
Speaker 1: I got something before you get me about the Crystal.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what crystal was because he was still
Speaker 1: drinking ball and he's like, this is the real deal
Speaker 1: champagne right here. There's a big, big ball of stuff.
Speaker 1: I was like, cool one for years and years, say yeah,
Speaker 1: I finally dranking you know that Athos, you know Jane
Speaker 1: on Pumper Crystal. But if we don't, I don't. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so now with the space now, so shop not the best,
Speaker 1: but it's okay. Did I say that the birthday party?
Speaker 1: Um was the first time I tasted his space because
Speaker 1: JA came to the birthday party and like, I think
Speaker 1: I've never tastes that. He said, all no, he pot
Speaker 1: brought me a glass and we had slammed down. I'm all,
Speaker 1: whiskey John a Brown look a guy. Whiskey guy. Now
Speaker 1: let me before we get into this into the interview.
Speaker 1: So so Dame approach well, j approached me about us
Speaker 1: since we had had a friendship already, and then he
Speaker 1: inclives me the Dame. I used to see Dame and
Speaker 1: the Brons walking his dogs all the time. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: always had his dogs and he was walking around cause
Speaker 1: he's gonna see Chubb each other and Steve because he
Speaker 1: was aniling and you never Chu Chu dz J Yes,
Speaker 1: d chump each other from Rental Flavor as it's a
Speaker 1: big DJ in Boston bosses. So so Dames being around
Speaker 1: there walking the dogs all the time. So we met then,
Speaker 1: but it was just small talk and we were just
Speaker 1: you know, everybody knew gangs I was at the time.
Speaker 1: We are we were not enough. So from there, Jay said,
Speaker 1: this gotta handles the business. So I went doll with him,
Speaker 1: told him how much. I said, because it's Jay, it's
Speaker 1: all love, I'm only gonna charge you four thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: which was very, very very lucky. And I don't believe
Speaker 1: in luck, but that's a blessing for me to give
Speaker 1: you that type of number. We went in the back
Speaker 1: and they gave me the cash and I started getting busy.
Speaker 1: Now Jacob and and and just Ja called me and said,
Speaker 1: I got this song called to he will. He explained
Speaker 1: it to me and oh my god, explained he explained
Speaker 1: it to me. Then he wrapped the whole song on
Speaker 1: the phone. And after he wrapped it on the phone,
Speaker 1: then he gave me the scratch idea and said, I
Speaker 1: what do you mean? He said, I want to? So
Speaker 1: he had it all mapped up. Can you save me?
Speaker 1: Got my mind? Yeah? I can't die. I can't even know,
Speaker 1: he said, make it go. I can't gave you that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he knew that. He knew the same order not to
Speaker 1: sample to make the beat. He just he gave me
Speaker 1: the idea of how to He said, this is the atmosphere.
Speaker 1: I want musically, but I want you to, no matter
Speaker 1: what you make, do these scratches. And I went down there.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'll be ready by time you get there.
Speaker 1: And it was ready when he walked in. I saw
Speaker 1: he picked the rap. That's what I'm saying that he
Speaker 1: samples for the cut. He said, hey, yeah, samples for
Speaker 1: the cut. He picked that already on the Phone's on
Speaker 1: the phone. So so he had that well thought out,
Speaker 1: and you know, so crazy him and Biggie's always later
Speaker 1: cup vocals. And then they both leave and go, all right,
Speaker 1: do the premier thing. And they both said the same thing,
Speaker 1: do the premier thing. When you sit there like, I
Speaker 1: gotta watch you, man, I gotta make sure right, he said,
Speaker 1: do the Premierre thing. We're going out, and they would
Speaker 1: leave and let me just do my thing. I might
Speaker 1: have said in the first drop. You know I'm good now,
Speaker 1: Pete Rock. You established your super producer. You you've done everything,
Speaker 1: you work with the best. What makes you say I
Speaker 1: want to do a whole album? First off, for duck
Speaker 1: Down before Smoke diesn't because you you did a whole
Speaker 1: He did the last Smith and Western. So if some
Speaker 1: survivor too with with ute. Yeah, everybody an the best
Speaker 1: of the you know, it was crazy. And then the
Speaker 1: best labor we're making, say, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do a whole project with Smith and Wesson. I think
Speaker 1: it was just the r of whing On and it
Speaker 1: just made me say, you know what, Damn, I love
Speaker 1: only and they could do if I could make a
Speaker 1: joint with him. Then I went to Steve with the idea.
Speaker 1: I knew he could make make it happen. You know.
Speaker 1: Then I was on the label they signed me. I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, okay, they one album deal, but I said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this one real good what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then look, I got the talent of round me.
Speaker 1: Let me just see what's happen. And then boom, I'm
Speaker 1: just going to stop thinking it half And now you
Speaker 1: got the joint. It's funny to shoot with me and
Speaker 1: you house strange real clothes with each other, Like are
Speaker 1: we talking strange fruit right now? You know I'm talking.
Speaker 1: We're talking the fat abut John Yeah, the ship on Sufia.
Speaker 1: But you yeah, I had such a great time. Was
Speaker 1: a green studio? Yeah you st yeah, you know you
Speaker 1: need to look at my memory remember I used to
Speaker 1: come of Pete, but that was way down. That was
Speaker 1: that was, That was like jamie S friends in my house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I came in right after that and then talking the
Speaker 1: whole story about the zame. I missed it, but bulleholes
Speaker 1: in the wall. It's still in the wall. Goddamn. Let
Speaker 1: from comments. You know. It was a great time and
Speaker 1: great times with my home. So who was it? It
Speaker 1: was me? Punning comment, Me punning comment. What a combination,
Speaker 1: that's it? Yeah, got real tight, you know what I mean. No, listen, Pete,
Speaker 1: let me just tell you something. We were so hard
Speaker 1: to come back. We had a ball. You ordered pieces
Speaker 1: there's Green Street Studios. I could never forget it because
Speaker 1: you know, Pete showed me and I remember I had
Speaker 1: the card their frames on at that time too, and
Speaker 1: I also and I also had a very important sweater
Speaker 1: on and I Miami. It was called um because this
Speaker 1: is a guy who designed Iceberg. But then he went
Speaker 1: and did his own thing and I forgot what it
Speaker 1: was called, but it was some fly ship and I
Speaker 1: bought from about Harbor and I only wore the peat rocks.
Speaker 1: So now you guys, you work with knobs. He worked
Speaker 1: with jail. Have you ever worked the bad You never
Speaker 1: worked a bad um. He's been to my crib if
Speaker 1: he was picking my inn the loud beats, He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you know he heard the idea
Speaker 1: of juicy in my base. You know, came with the
Speaker 1: one that brought Big to the to my house. You
Speaker 1: know we are from Puffers from Della Avenue and my
Speaker 1: Nion and go up Big to a crib and he's
Speaker 1: just like, hell Big, He's like, yeah, I just want
Speaker 1: to see how you make a beat. And then I
Speaker 1: made the speak called U that's a song called in
Speaker 1: the Flesh on the Maining Green, and I made that.
Speaker 1: He wanted it, you know, but it didn't happen somehow,
Speaker 1: but I ended up using it one album. But he
Speaker 1: was there and saw the process. But would now describe
Speaker 1: that because now you know profits from around Burner, so
Speaker 1: you look at him like a pair. But now do
Speaker 1: you do you realize that this guy that he just
Speaker 1: broke to your studio is the most legendary person in
Speaker 1: the world. Already you knew, you do already. The area
Speaker 1: was there because I think Buff came on the show
Speaker 1: and he was scribing Big as disrupted like his look
Speaker 1: was dead. Yeah, did you get that feeling when I
Speaker 1: didn't even pay attention to that? I was skilled. I
Speaker 1: was about to scare Holy rap, I got to beat
Speaker 1: the match. No mean, let's get something poppets. But he
Speaker 1: heard the idea of juicy and just you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't actually do that actual rigiment. I didn't ended up
Speaker 1: doing the remix, and that was the only thing. You mean,
Speaker 1: big Gun. But you know, if you know he did
Speaker 1: pick beats, you know he just didn't need a chance star. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he knew what he wanted to wrap to. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was now premo. Um, how did you first meet there?
Speaker 1: I met big Um when we moved back to Brooklyn's
Speaker 1: for Green when we're living with Branford, looking a lot
Speaker 1: of rough places. Yea, yeah, we were just this falk
Speaker 1: grady when when brand Valley officially moved out and went
Speaker 1: to California, we turned this place into a frad house
Speaker 1: party house. Rizzon was like Washington between had in Green
Speaker 1: and Brooklyn. Yeah, Brooke, it's old school Brooklyn. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not yet so that you get killed every other store,
Speaker 1: think it's shot coming out. He's like that, this is
Speaker 1: you that was to shoot him up corner and it's
Speaker 1: not this is not this is not um the vegans, No,
Speaker 1: this is this is hipster, hipster for old English. One
Speaker 1: of you know, let's get to this is when Biggie
Speaker 1: wore the same green, because when Biggie the Biggie one
Speaker 1: the same green, all me jacking and the sleeves about
Speaker 1: the right. So but board all the time I knew
Speaker 1: Needo Chico sees Kim, they bring you this guy no missing.
Speaker 1: I gotta give him to see the credit when he's
Speaker 1: from the beginning with he was annoying me like yo,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't know I g yet he was Biggie Smalls
Speaker 1: and and every somebody else had Biggie small so that
Speaker 1: he just yeah, man, But um, I used to do
Speaker 1: a lot of shoulder Kane, and there was time that
Speaker 1: I couldn't. My turntables got damaged. Back then you carried
Speaker 1: your equipment on tour and uh j he want he
Speaker 1: wanted to still bring his you Mr c let me
Speaker 1: his turntables right before Kane took the stage. So the
Speaker 1: gang Stalker performed so well again. He lived right down
Speaker 1: the block for all the weeks when I said, we
Speaker 1: knew and so you gotta go out and to see house.
Speaker 1: And in the dope weak spots right there, the new one,
Speaker 1: the one is like on that was dead one, so
Speaker 1: the nice Franklin av So then during that time, Mrs
Speaker 1: Steves a calming, go Prem Biggie small, Biggie small. I'm like, see,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to it, like, just give me some
Speaker 1: time weeks past, yo, Prem, Biggie small. That's why I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: see before unsun hype. Yeah right yeah, just Biggie small,
Speaker 1: Biggie small, thig. I'm like, dude, I'm gonna listen to
Speaker 1: it because we're pretty busy that that time. I read it.
Speaker 1: One day, I listened to it, liked it like the
Speaker 1: demos that I heard. And then I met Big on
Speaker 1: the corner. I was going to the corner store me
Speaker 1: Google Big Sugar Dad, and Dad was in love with
Speaker 1: little Kim and little him like yeah yeah, yeah kind
Speaker 1: of yea, yeah, I'm never got the bunny that's to
Speaker 1: this very day. Yeah, and that's family. Melkolako got locked
Speaker 1: before many's homes. Welcome Melancho. You know we all connect
Speaker 1: to me, j Rue. All of us is still good.
Speaker 1: So uh So, then Big was like, yo, she she
Speaker 1: told you. He told me he's been stressing you. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, family heard it. I said, we gotta
Speaker 1: get something in. And then he goes Joe Puffings and
Speaker 1: this is what he said, puffings interesting and signing me.
Speaker 1: So this is how far back up too, they said,
Speaker 1: Puffers addressing and sign him. I said, dude, go with him.
Speaker 1: And I said, puff Puff not only has money, he
Speaker 1: got a vision. He's gonna blow you up. He said,
Speaker 1: we I don't know, man, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: keep his hood. I'm like, yo, he don't want to
Speaker 1: go with go with puff, you know. And then boom,
Speaker 1: next thing you know, Puff started coming around. And actually
Speaker 1: I tell people this Puff was the first one. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm because Puff is the first. Remember his stick? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But so what was the first? Making? You actually worked
Speaker 1: on a little big Unbelievable. This is actually what trigger.
Speaker 1: This is what trickled. That was a single trickled down
Speaker 1: into why I gave jay Z and them the price
Speaker 1: for lower price, for reasonable doubt. Because when we did Unbelievable, duh,
Speaker 1: the the budget had run out for Big and I
Speaker 1: told Big, I don't have time to make a beat.
Speaker 1: And he goes Joe, I got five thousand dollars. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, but we were already cool with
Speaker 1: each other, but I felt weird telling them no. But
Speaker 1: I really didn't have the time, and I'm a person.
Speaker 1: Then Pete'll tell you this. I make the beat on
Speaker 1: the spot. And now that's something that people don't realize.
Speaker 1: I don't have like twenty beats and go you'll pick one,
Speaker 1: like take number six and number before and that they
Speaker 1: said that that's what they do. They make it to
Speaker 1: the artist. So I didn't have nothing for big that
Speaker 1: was dope. You know a lot of people like, you know,
Speaker 1: come on, man, I know you've got something like I don't,
Speaker 1: I really don't. You come here, we can make it
Speaker 1: big old, I don't care if you taking pizza president
Speaker 1: and just some funny staff sounds, and you know he
Speaker 1: knew the slip slap. Yeah, and you know what staff
Speaker 1: was what we say in production in the production era.
Speaker 1: So he said, I don't care if it's some staff,
Speaker 1: that's our word. So coming up tonight, then that's what happened.
Speaker 1: He comes up. I'll take the five thousand, I said,
Speaker 1: but if you get a deal and you go platinum,
Speaker 1: I want thirty five thousand dollars per track. After after
Speaker 1: him going by the way, we did the song crazy
Speaker 1: and there's ninety five. He comes in, we do the song.
Speaker 1: It becomes the B side of Juicy. It was like
Speaker 1: the Street singles was my first gold singles. All that. Wow.
Speaker 1: As soon as he got the deal to up the money.
Speaker 1: I remember he goes, Joe, I got to check for it.
Speaker 1: He said thirty five right, he said, I got. I
Speaker 1: got two of them, brought me to check and Puffy
Speaker 1: gave me the checking out. Like wow, he kept his word.
Speaker 1: Oh so this wasn't on paper this word. It was
Speaker 1: like handshake ship. Yeah, that's big, d You learned so
Speaker 1: much hip hop history getting dirty back then. No, that's
Speaker 1: the best triple. That's ninety Let me ask you because
Speaker 1: you um, the reputation is like the most hip hop
Speaker 1: of hip hop. But now Janet Jackson, you work with
Speaker 1: Janet Jackson, you work with Christine Million, work did you
Speaker 1: work with Britney Spirits as well? So just crazy as
Speaker 1: a hip hop producing you get this call, What is
Speaker 1: your first thing to say for Christina? Yeah, because you
Speaker 1: know that that wasn't hurt dude, that put her onto
Speaker 1: her ex husband Jordy had put her on some of
Speaker 1: my stuff, but she liked it, so she called me
Speaker 1: and go, Joe, I just heard the group home out.
Speaker 1: Oh that's not what Christine. She just heard. I met
Speaker 1: the Shateau Mama down the hill on sunset, you kind
Speaker 1: of front mama shot in Germany, shout to my mom's
Speaker 1: with a lot of a lot of wigs, big wigs,
Speaker 1: lamp and drinking and getting enough money. Because it's right
Speaker 1: down the hill. It's right before tower, like right after you.
Speaker 1: That's Tower Records or any little little big Tower Records
Speaker 1: right now. And it's got a big knee on side
Speaker 1: and shot to mama with bushes so you can't really
Speaker 1: see the spot. And she said, my rolls Royce is outside.
Speaker 1: I saw the white the white fantom. I said, she's here,
Speaker 1: walk in. She's sitting there with Jordy. She goes, so
Speaker 1: I love group, like that's pin point group. The Grimy
Speaker 1: is out there like this like the jazz samples that
Speaker 1: used on some of the games. So she liked. She
Speaker 1: liked jazz Thing't she like work? She like, yeah, she said,
Speaker 1: works like you know my steeds. Even though that was
Speaker 1: but the song she was naming with joints, like, wow,
Speaker 1: if that attracted you don't want to work with me,
Speaker 1: let's go in. And then we ended up we'repoth do
Speaker 1: one record, which was called We called back in the day.
Speaker 1: Next thing you know, she was like, y'all stay here
Speaker 1: a couple more weeks and we just started banging out
Speaker 1: and turned into five records. And then that was the
Speaker 1: first Grammy I ever got for a single. Whereas you know,
Speaker 1: not for the for being on the al I gotta
Speaker 1: Grammy for the Angelo being working on the album and
Speaker 1: for jay Z on how Not Life, but to get
Speaker 1: one for the single is singles out all the other
Speaker 1: songs on the album. It's like, for that one song,
Speaker 1: you gotta gramm me. So that was a big monument
Speaker 1: with my career. It's dope. It was that goddamn it. Now,
Speaker 1: who was it that you said you work with him,
Speaker 1: but you wanted to see them right to Rob in
Speaker 1: the big face Tom it was somebody I forget. I'll
Speaker 1: work with him, but I want to see them right
Speaker 1: the rock, right the rock. I think it was like
Speaker 1: a Justin Bieber all right, yeah, you know the sipher
Speaker 1: what I've been doing. We didn't know the speer for
Speaker 1: BT hip hop was gonna even get this big. It
Speaker 1: was an idea. Shot to Jesse Collins, and congratulations to
Speaker 1: Jesse Collins for doing real well with a new edition story.
Speaker 1: That was his idea and it blew up and did
Speaker 1: really really well their big numbers. And Jesse's a good
Speaker 1: friend of mine. We argue and fight a lot over
Speaker 1: no it's wrong if you do it this way, you
Speaker 1: know it's right if you do it this way. We
Speaker 1: fight a lot, but he's such a good friend that
Speaker 1: we always find a compromise. When he brought up the
Speaker 1: idea of during the site for it was a one
Speaker 1: time thing. It was Papoose Styles, p Remy um, who
Speaker 1: else was in it? Um rom Fest And then there
Speaker 1: was a second one and those two I couldn't make
Speaker 1: it because I was on tour, so I had they
Speaker 1: scratched fill in for me. I just gave him the
Speaker 1: beat and said, let's keep it break beat. Only you
Speaker 1: know because something now that's they elevate. If you're like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I need them to turn up to It's like, no,
Speaker 1: this is the pure form of how we're doing with
Speaker 1: keeping the breaking Are you a producer on my pick
Speaker 1: specific thing. I picked the beat a loop it, I'll
Speaker 1: do it maybe four James Brown loop break beat from Ultimate,
Speaker 1: Breaks the Beach, whatever, and I'll send those and whatever.
Speaker 1: One Jesse's like, yeah, I like this one. We'll clear
Speaker 1: it with whoever owned it, and then we'll send it
Speaker 1: to all the artists and we tell them sixteen bars
Speaker 1: and quick, so anybody's got ninety bars everything, And it's
Speaker 1: like they never follow the rules, and then they get mad, like, yo,
Speaker 1: they edited my stuff. It's like, no, he told you
Speaker 1: sixteen and quit and again it was one time. Only
Speaker 1: second year comes around over the set cipher, they're like,
Speaker 1: we want to do it again. Now that they've got
Speaker 1: three ciphers. Then that turn in the Forthsifer's after that.
Speaker 1: Now it's starting to get ciphers where they're starting to
Speaker 1: put a lot of artists that I'm like, na, na,
Speaker 1: they can't rhyme, don't put them in there. And it's
Speaker 1: going into that stage of it now it's like whether
Speaker 1: they're popular, they're no more known than the skilled them. See,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but if you're taking away the skill,
Speaker 1: that that causes problems with the authenticity. And that's where
Speaker 1: I have a problem because I wanted to stay aft ending. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but all the fans love them, and they're on TV
Speaker 1: and they're on every video, and he's other guys. Nobody's
Speaker 1: being attention to them, Like, well, you know what, They're
Speaker 1: gonna pay attention to some when they see how dope
Speaker 1: they speach beat. So we always have that fight. One year,
Speaker 1: they said, Yo, what do you think of Justin Bieber
Speaker 1: spitting on the side? I said, I don't know, can
Speaker 1: with it as long as he writes the round, and
Speaker 1: if it's a dope round, let's do. He said, what
Speaker 1: if somebody else rights there? I said, no, blew into
Speaker 1: it with the rumors being saying that I mentioned this
Speaker 1: person this person. No, it was just that simple. If
Speaker 1: he's gonna do it, let him spit. And and so
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, it's like next he's going
Speaker 1: to turn to the whole campaign is showing him spitting
Speaker 1: versus on radio stations and all that, and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I work with Justin Bieber. As long as it's authentic,
Speaker 1: let's rock. I don't care if it's just people, I
Speaker 1: don't care if it's Mary Poppins. If it's authentic, let's rock.
Speaker 1: That's how important is that's? You, guys, very important problem
Speaker 1: with that. I was like, yes, but just you wanted
Speaker 1: him to write that, yeah, And they didn't say that
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna write. They say, what if he doesn't,
Speaker 1: And I'm like that No, it's he shows on the
Speaker 1: blog d the premier bands justin peoples like, how could
Speaker 1: I banned nobody? Because if it was my ciphers, You're
Speaker 1: gonna see Kane there, the Rock, Kim there, d I T.
Speaker 1: C during the whole cipher with a G and Diamond
Speaker 1: and and and the old see and all of them.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be people like that, you know, because he
Speaker 1: was you see one shady cipher it was eminem you know,
Speaker 1: people with skills them Royce, Joe buden Uh crooking eyes skills.
Speaker 1: Know how important is that for you? For you guys,
Speaker 1: You guys, I have the integrity. You guys are top
Speaker 1: of the line of producers when it when we're speaking
Speaker 1: real rail wild hip hop, you guys name has to
Speaker 1: be brought up now. Is Is it ever a time
Speaker 1: where you sit back and say, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it for the money this time, or you say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna always stay who I am always say, and
Speaker 1: I've been tempted. A good example, but it's in our
Speaker 1: hearts today passionate about when we do man do it
Speaker 1: for the love saying it's like it's just that's who
Speaker 1: we are. Staying on was a good example because when
Speaker 1: my manager kept pressing me to do it Patrick Marxy
Speaker 1: at the time, I was like nah, because I said,
Speaker 1: Fred Dust can't wrap it in my eyes on the
Speaker 1: level of what people, I don't want my fans going
Speaker 1: damn Preme you work with him and and I like
Speaker 1: left Biscuit for what they do, but if you're gonna
Speaker 1: get with me, that's not what you do. And that's
Speaker 1: to get a lot more inkor you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's the bottom line. They go, well method man
Speaker 1: is on the song. I said, oh word, I said,
Speaker 1: then send me the rough. He sent me the rough
Speaker 1: and Metho was on and I was like, then, okay,
Speaker 1: then I'll do it. And it was a big check,
Speaker 1: a huge check. He was one of the biggest checks
Speaker 1: I've ever gotten. So the good thing I liked about
Speaker 1: fred Durst was he called me and said I need
Speaker 1: to talk to train and he was just becoming one
Speaker 1: of the new executives that Interscope with Jimmy Ivien and
Speaker 1: he said, yo, man, this is recently when we were
Speaker 1: back when when they popping and we were doing but
Speaker 1: he had respect for what. Yeah, and we had a
Speaker 1: dope conversation and it was to the point he said,
Speaker 1: the best you can get out of me, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: He came to D and D and he tried. He
Speaker 1: tried with nobody, nobody got no, nothing, and they were
Speaker 1: big at the time. This is a sex second album
Speaker 1: and he was like, Yo, get the best you can
Speaker 1: get out of me. I don't care if you don't
Speaker 1: like it. Whatever, I'll do it. And he that was
Speaker 1: the best I can get what's on the song. But
Speaker 1: the fact he put the effort in. I like the
Speaker 1: fact he put in the effort and he knocked it out.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, he said, Yo, we're doing a video.
Speaker 1: Flew us out. We had a big video shoot. We
Speaker 1: had a good time and it was just just a
Speaker 1: really really fun session and and me and Me and
Speaker 1: Fred were cool after them. Before the thing is today
Speaker 1: you guys mentioned Dwick and we didn't go back to
Speaker 1: do it because Troy is one of the biggest ever
Speaker 1: be and it's one of the biggest hip hop records.
Speaker 1: We need to hear. We need to hear the story
Speaker 1: of Dwicks. The only reason why Dwick happened, because that's
Speaker 1: all of our summer anthems. By the way, like we
Speaker 1: all the Nicest Mood did a song called on the End,
Speaker 1: Ain't a damn thing change called down the Line. It
Speaker 1: was with a whole bunch of mcs bass blast big
Speaker 1: up to him, a whole bunch of Auto MC he said,
Speaker 1: bass blaster, yeah from Connecticut, including and shout the ray
Speaker 1: pouncey and uh ray Pousse and uh and then uh,
Speaker 1: Google's also on it. He said, I want to loop
Speaker 1: the Manifest beat into my home version because a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know most of the nicest move hits.
Speaker 1: Greg Knights does all the beats. Yeah, wow, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. I've seen him doing. He he for all
Speaker 1: that stuff, hippop, John Kies every every yeah, sorry, all
Speaker 1: that kicking wicked rounds like a fort time had a
Speaker 1: dog on this old Yeah, he did all that stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the knife for me to make him right now like
Speaker 1: Punky bu all that stuff. Lets plays at. I know
Speaker 1: he doesn't play a tax remember brand from myself and
Speaker 1: played a fucking sack. It worked a little to Max.
Speaker 1: You know, he did all those beats so is a
Speaker 1: dope beat making. Yeah, so he took the Manifest instrumental
Speaker 1: May the beat. And all we were doing was because
Speaker 1: we just hang tough. It was nicest fool gangstar riding
Speaker 1: a d train. We go to the castle which was
Speaker 1: grimy and the bronze and this was when they had
Speaker 1: to shoot. That was like Greg all that time, like
Speaker 1: we were around all that stuff. Boom, next thing, you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: we we said, well, let's return the favor into a
Speaker 1: record fuss. So that's all. It was, just y'all do
Speaker 1: one for us. We're gonna do one for you. Hunt
Speaker 1: that's doing on there. That's why it was the B
Speaker 1: side and it wasn't on the album. I remember people
Speaker 1: are like, oh yeah, y'all left you off the albums, Like, nah,
Speaker 1: the album was already done. We're just doing it for fun,
Speaker 1: right we was, and that became a huge right now.
Speaker 1: We didn't know it's gonna be the huge. We're just
Speaker 1: doing it in I remember you'd be shout, yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: shout to dub C. He was there. Aren't you related
Speaker 1: to to somebody on the west like that. No, we're
Speaker 1: just good friends. We're just good friend. But you did
Speaker 1: album m c A recently. Yeah, that's coming out of
Speaker 1: huh and that's a track let's go back and most wanted.
Speaker 1: He did two of the uh theme records for Boys
Speaker 1: in the Hood. He did and he did She's on
Speaker 1: my own everybody side, So yeah, we haven't we haven't
Speaker 1: out hit, we haven't want hite. We have which way
Speaker 1: is west camera that's coming soon and also think about
Speaker 1: yeah yet out of the connoss and we you know,
Speaker 1: people know uh and then uh shout to Tory Wolf
Speaker 1: and also shout to Miguel. We have a single out
Speaker 1: right now called to Loving You. Now. What happened was
Speaker 1: where we wherehere we do wick so dub she was there. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's Don Aaron from the Masses of Sundre. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: he was a good friends with Greg Night. Question though,
Speaker 1: how did the horny version happen? To the wick I
Speaker 1: was just doing that, just sucking out and to the
Speaker 1: horny version, horny version but as a vocal version had
Speaker 1: a glitch. And remember you when you go to dad
Speaker 1: the dada. So when we bounced, we stay quiet, let
Speaker 1: them and had to remember glitches we couldn't. I was like,
Speaker 1: we can't put it out like that's why I just
Speaker 1: put the instrumental on that on the B side of
Speaker 1: A twelve. Wow. When did y'all know you had something
Speaker 1: with Dwick? Like, I mean immediately when that ship came
Speaker 1: out when we finishing it was crazy because like I said,
Speaker 1: dove C is from the West Coast, wearing scullies all
Speaker 1: in the heat of its connection and and khakis and
Speaker 1: and Pendleton's all hot and I'm just like, yo, you
Speaker 1: ain't hotting all that stuff, because that's how it is
Speaker 1: in the West Coast. And that's how I learned about
Speaker 1: the West Coast. It was night nine. Master As had
Speaker 1: just joined our states was heavy doing the car show
Speaker 1: stuff on the web. I knew Sun Night already back
Speaker 1: then nine he was and he was hanging over. So
Speaker 1: I was there with J J Fan, the n w
Speaker 1: A all that stuff, Me and He's he came to
Speaker 1: the first Gang Star release party in nineteen eighty nine
Speaker 1: with the kids. Yeah, rescipes, So we met them back
Speaker 1: in eighty nine, so you know the dove C to
Speaker 1: be there back then. That shows we go to and
Speaker 1: recipes or his brother who passed on January. Now Ice Cubes, DJ,
Speaker 1: Crazy Tunes, that stuff. When we set them off right here,
Speaker 1: we had an incredible homegoing service and family man, seeing
Speaker 1: all these west goes on from King t and then
Speaker 1: seeing you know, Chuck dn l L then and everybody
Speaker 1: and and you know, just every artist and hip hop family.
Speaker 1: It was so packed in and they just did it right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, playing dope music in the church,
Speaker 1: playing flashlight and doing a whole college of all the
Speaker 1: people he's been around on a video screen. And and
Speaker 1: and then even when it did to everybody's got a
Speaker 1: little signed the show tunes, throwing up the w looking
Speaker 1: up to the style with it with clouds and wings
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And I was like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you see, No, he's trying to get two year fifty.
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Speaker 1: to I can't believe, like I continue, I gotta come
Speaker 1: back and a little black because it's is. This guy
Speaker 1: is a vinal guy. He's a real hip hop person.
Speaker 1: I am hip hop persons. For us to come together
Speaker 1: and want to commemorate hip hop, salute hip hop, and
Speaker 1: for it to get twenty five million. Shout to Revolt
Speaker 1: Man for big. I'm CBS, TBS, CBS first, your boys
Speaker 1: been and they're coming home, all coming crazy. When you go,
Speaker 1: you go to l A, you gotta prepare. Know. I'm
Speaker 1: doing screening screening at the l A Film School March ninth,
Speaker 1: but March on Revolt As is the premier Coming Home Vietnam.
Speaker 1: I'm going to different countries and exploring hip hop different.
Speaker 1: The dope thing is, I've been watching Drink Champs for
Speaker 1: a minute. You don't feel like I've been checking on
Speaker 1: Drink for a minute. And Uh, it's just ill how
Speaker 1: how the two of y'all are from really different, totally
Speaker 1: different direction. I've known Nori from the streets, like we've
Speaker 1: been streating for so long I've seen him elevate from
Speaker 1: the street level of ramen to the sharper version of
Speaker 1: writing rhymes. Even when you and Bubby had jump drama
Speaker 1: and then we end up doing a record together and
Speaker 1: me together. And even when that happened, it wasn't even
Speaker 1: if this he was just like, yo, I'm a band
Speaker 1: of Nori. He did want him to elevate it ROMs
Speaker 1: because I'm a band and where everybody knows Freddie Fox
Speaker 1: and being where he is more into. There's certain people
Speaker 1: he's attracted to for what they represented, and he loves
Speaker 1: Noria and and more than this MC as a person,
Speaker 1: he's a big, big fan of you. Pick him up.
Speaker 1: Pick him up because he pushed me. He told me
Speaker 1: from the beginning of like if he had mentioned my
Speaker 1: name and the record, he told me, like, I just
Speaker 1: I don't want you to say what but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest keep it when I would call it super thug,
Speaker 1: all right, That's how I used to count bars. I
Speaker 1: used to say what what what what? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: He said, what what what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? Three?
Speaker 1: Because I'm from the resource from you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying education, I told for real, I said, they're gonna
Speaker 1: laughing me. He said, that's the hook. But he was
Speaker 1: a genius. He was because was take out the ones
Speaker 1: like when I said what what what what? What? What wanted?
Speaker 1: All he did was muted and then so that I
Speaker 1: gotta give it to the real Yeah, he muted that.
Speaker 1: So now when you listen to it, you're here and
Speaker 1: you say what what what? What? What? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: Just but yeah, this day you don't even gotta go
Speaker 1: to the verse that tears the club. Yeah, was important.
Speaker 1: And when I was trying to say was when I
Speaker 1: did it, I felt what Buppy felt. That's why I
Speaker 1: took it personal, because I felt I told for I
Speaker 1: said it for brow all we need is hard. I said,
Speaker 1: all we need is because, you know, for the research.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm sorry. I used to tell up
Speaker 1: and he said relax. We didn't say relaxed, but in
Speaker 1: my mind and I would never forget that we were
Speaker 1: in right track recording studios. But this chain was choking him, choker,
Speaker 1: like you gotta release because it was just so tight
Speaker 1: on this click. I love him, Hello, who knows for real?
Speaker 1: I'm very upset, but I love you and me and
Speaker 1: Mr Lead Chicks. So I remember, I'm going upstairs. What
Speaker 1: I saying, You remember right track? Remember right? So I
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and I said, all we need is
Speaker 1: the hook and were good. He said we got the
Speaker 1: hook already, and I looked at him. I was like,
Speaker 1: because I had previously did that every other record before.
Speaker 1: Then we got mad. But Joe, the first time I
Speaker 1: ever heard you do a y and just the whole
Speaker 1: blah blah, my wife, it's like, that's your stands. No
Speaker 1: one knows that your owner. But that's the reason why
Speaker 1: I gotta give it, because he was the nigger like
Speaker 1: I did that as ball because because remember back then.
Speaker 1: You gotta remember back then, we couldn't punch in the
Speaker 1: record in one day. And it was even ye out here.
Speaker 1: But listen, I'll be fifty one one and you so,
Speaker 1: so I did this ship. That's how I always recorded.
Speaker 1: My record was all the way too, because we remember
Speaker 1: we had the eight inch rails back the two whatever
Speaker 1: you think it wasn't. So I was trained to just
Speaker 1: late everything altogether. So I came out and then he
Speaker 1: had the girl coming, and then the girl was saying,
Speaker 1: which is not kellless because everybody does everybody think it's Kalisi?
Speaker 1: It's not Colliso? What everybody? It's not? Get she was
Speaker 1: around during that time, Yeah, but everybody thought was it.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that for the Remember her tammy is
Speaker 1: definitely a tammy. Sounds like something like that, right, that
Speaker 1: was like that that We were all cool, Calice, but
Speaker 1: look a little come back out and I'll say, all
Speaker 1: we need is a hook? Have we done? And he
Speaker 1: said we got dog? And I said, where is it that?
Speaker 1: And then he flayed what they're gonna laugh at me?
Speaker 1: So I Freddy vos name at me. He's like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to hit the what but he didn't know
Speaker 1: that wasn't it literally wasn't me. So I was literally mad, mona,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Tam on that drink? Chance, God, damn
Speaker 1: it on them damn in my mind shout out to
Speaker 1: damn near. So. Now listen, you gotta see hip hop.
Speaker 1: You worked with cool Arts, you worked with C. L. Smooth.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going in So now what makes y'all say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work with people outside? Oh? Because the thing
Speaker 1: about hip hop back then was one producer did the
Speaker 1: whole album. I'm working on going back to that one
Speaker 1: producer did the whole album Now You Got, You Got,
Speaker 1: You Got Almatic where it's Pete Rock, Chip Lars, Professor Ellis.
Speaker 1: Then you're going to at the big LB Lord for ness.
Speaker 1: Uh So what makes y'all? What makes y'all say I'm
Speaker 1: gonna work with people outside of my group because we're
Speaker 1: not just We're just not in a hip hop box.
Speaker 1: We're in a music box, and the music box has
Speaker 1: all styles that we appreciate based on the cloths were
Speaker 1: cut from a pioneers that opened the door when it's fired.
Speaker 1: James Brown boots the whole Parliament funk. Yeah, just any
Speaker 1: of that from parlt the Brothers, anything, Bootsy anything, Parliament anything,
Speaker 1: George Clinty, that's an error. After James Brown, that's so funky,
Speaker 1: you know a lot like like that. That's a funk
Speaker 1: that that enough funking, Like he says, funk not only
Speaker 1: moves it could remove. We come from that, you know.
Speaker 1: So I read the Franklin, Natalie Cole, Gladys Night in
Speaker 1: the Pivos, Curtis Mayfield, all that stuff, the Mac all
Speaker 1: that stuff. That's my childhood. I don't know about the
Speaker 1: hip hop to hippie hippie. I'm on that. I'm seeing
Speaker 1: my mom playing back to Yeah, Dinna rules, anything about Town, Tamler,
Speaker 1: Gordy Soul records, any of the stuff. My mama A
Speaker 1: time you want to make he Rooster saying but my
Speaker 1: child his platform shoes Afros this big Afro, Shane commercials,
Speaker 1: but Johnson Um good times, the Jefferson's all in the family.
Speaker 1: You know the monsters, that's my mom. Uns, that's my mom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw something in there. What's happening? That's my
Speaker 1: my racking stuff all that, you know, all that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: roller skating, we run, we run, That's what I know.
Speaker 1: This is no rapping and scratching. Yet, what is Pete
Speaker 1: Rock's favorite studio session of all these years? My favorite
Speaker 1: studio session that I've ever had, ever happened. It was
Speaker 1: probably had been with run DMC. Down with the shout
Speaker 1: with the king, Oh, down with the light. That's how
Speaker 1: it was crazy. That's the owner of this club and
Speaker 1: he's not gonna like and we had to like, so
Speaker 1: ill yo, we want the gang start tour last day
Speaker 1: and right and run called us and said hurry up
Speaker 1: and get hit. We did twenty five million trees while
Speaker 1: was I like one that we did not and we
Speaker 1: did not into and it ain't even perfect. And we
Speaker 1: came over the way y'all was and everybody was gone.
Speaker 1: You know. I gave CBS this idea, though, come on, bro,
Speaker 1: I give him that idea. You gotta relax, came them.
Speaker 1: I said, we need a streaming clack. No, we sat
Speaker 1: in the podcast, buddy, We just said podcast. I gotta
Speaker 1: go with him. He feels more sober than me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a d J thingy. You
Speaker 1: can we have a memory jay Z. Jay Z saw
Speaker 1: me one day. Jay Z said, Yeo, I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: you memory man. You remember every sort you're seeing jay
Speaker 1: Z and he'll he'll go, but you remember this time,
Speaker 1: I'll say, I remember we went and we were in Paris.
Speaker 1: We had a show like two in the morning and
Speaker 1: he was doing the uh this after the justin Timberlake
Speaker 1: tour and watch the throw who was doing the Holy
Speaker 1: Grail tour. We found out he was in town. Me
Speaker 1: and Keeble or whatever Keebler was at. I said, you'll
Speaker 1: want to go see jay Z before reach out. That's
Speaker 1: when he was still no. Now this in Paris, Paris,
Speaker 1: and we got a little to a couple of little time.
Speaker 1: Once I want to go to the show, I reached
Speaker 1: out to the proper people, and it was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: John when he was a Johan nearly reached out to
Speaker 1: John and nearly he's handling everything. I reached out to John,
Speaker 1: send him an email. I'm like, I'm out of here.
Speaker 1: Anyway we can go to the show. I'm thinking I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna respond. I think blipped in like two minutes.
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, there's gonna be passes waiting for you.
Speaker 1: All access. Come backstage. I'm gonna spot for you. We
Speaker 1: go backstage after the show. Uh because Timberland was d
Speaker 1: dam form. We go back stage after the show. Jay
Speaker 1: Z goes, all right, we'll remember you got this time
Speaker 1: because I introduced him to keep my tour man. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he did. Like he's like, how are you doing? He's like,
Speaker 1: how you doing? Keep it? Nice to meet you. You'll
Speaker 1: know what you gotta memory this time? I said, you
Speaker 1: met Keebler before he goes, oh, no, how I said,
Speaker 1: we were at battery, uh Baseline Studios and uh Loupe
Speaker 1: if Fiasco was auditioning for you and he had on
Speaker 1: big chain. There's a Loupe I Fiasco had a big
Speaker 1: chain on with a big metal which he would never
Speaker 1: do right, and he was rapping for you know. Then
Speaker 1: he eat much more focused on another level. But come on,
Speaker 1: drink to shout the first and fifteen. So he goes,
Speaker 1: he's auditioning for J. Jay's listen all these rhymes. Lupe
Speaker 1: puts on a beat in the CD player. The CD
Speaker 1: starts to go do do you know when they skipped?
Speaker 1: Loupe goes and then it's finally stops skipping because I
Speaker 1: goes back into the rhyme. We're like, right there, Jay goes,
Speaker 1: I totally remember that day and you know him and
Speaker 1: keep loving. They're going to talking about sports, you know,
Speaker 1: makes for that. Now there's a deal like we're not
Speaker 1: in to view people. I like to, you know, dig
Speaker 1: into their life when I know the people. The people
Speaker 1: I don't dig into their life because I know them.
Speaker 1: I record both of you guys. I know all right now,
Speaker 1: I know exactly what to ask you. But the thing
Speaker 1: about y'all which surprised me is y'all both come and
Speaker 1: y'all both do your own sound check mandatory, And so
Speaker 1: what I'm asking, is I always what I always should think,
Speaker 1: like you guys who have a DJ, but he don't do.
Speaker 1: So we were talking about this and yeah, I was
Speaker 1: so like, He's like, they're doing that's sound we've done. Joe.
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all make sure that even everything, he's gonna
Speaker 1: make it right. Every show speakers somehow they got a bull.
Speaker 1: I got to do sound check. I don't care even
Speaker 1: if I don't get to eat sleep, I'm starving, take
Speaker 1: a nap. I will not miss sound they produced because
Speaker 1: a lot of festivals you gotta just plug in check.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, it's got a bang, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to deliver what you paid to get. Get what you
Speaker 1: paid for. You're gonna pay to get me again. And
Speaker 1: you want your beat to be heard right, so you
Speaker 1: don't never sing like your assistant or nobody you. You
Speaker 1: guys said, we'll check it again before we start tonight.
Speaker 1: But other than that, now I wouldn't even see the
Speaker 1: working rumlers like, so, I already have a picture of
Speaker 1: what I'm stepping into when the crowd is here. But
Speaker 1: but you gotta let him in. Do what you gotta
Speaker 1: do if you want to do it. He wanted to
Speaker 1: do it. I see if if premoted in. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was like yo, he said, he said, you didn't stay there,
Speaker 1: he would hip open up for himself. He wouldn't. He wouldn't, dude,
Speaker 1: he would have done another hour and we would like, Yo, Pete,
Speaker 1: come on is a bad thing? Yo, Pee, come on
Speaker 1: on the road where I'll get mad and not in
Speaker 1: a bad ways like Pete. I'm at the record store.
Speaker 1: We were here. We were in Tokyo one time and
Speaker 1: we're about to miss our plane and he goes, I
Speaker 1: gotta get this record. You're like, I'm not missing my
Speaker 1: play for you, especially on the day you're finally going
Speaker 1: on and you know, the day you're going home. You're
Speaker 1: just so ready to go back home. And we've been
Speaker 1: out for like a week in another country, and he's like, yo,
Speaker 1: I gotta get this record. I'm like, dogs, if we
Speaker 1: do not make this plane because of you, we're gonna
Speaker 1: And that's actually how the whole Pete Rock versus Premiere
Speaker 1: things started because of that day we got on the
Speaker 1: bugle said, you know what, man, we need to make
Speaker 1: an album. When we get our attention now to make
Speaker 1: an album. Going at the other making Hills, y'all doing
Speaker 1: the album. We're gonna do an album called p p
Speaker 1: VP P goddamnts record that record. We're doing that about.
Speaker 1: I have a website that let's carry the hats. So
Speaker 1: now say the website again. Premiere was here dot com
Speaker 1: dot com to ye and just go to the shop section.
Speaker 1: It has all official has all official gang Shot products,
Speaker 1: all official Google products, all official Premiere products. And me
Speaker 1: and Pete share the hats and we have green, red, blue, black,
Speaker 1: grand black. We have two t So what happened when
Speaker 1: y'all saw this battle individually and japan Us? No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when y'all saw the just blades and
Speaker 1: honestly everybody acting like that was the first you know
Speaker 1: what because we've been doing it so much. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was more like, alright, cool, and this is ain't the
Speaker 1: first battles again, other they've done it before. No, no,
Speaker 1: not no, this is the first one. Kanye. Yeah, some
Speaker 1: of you it's a drink chance because they don't drink.
Speaker 1: That's different from yeah, no, y'alls is like y'alls is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the couture, but the next day they trying to post
Speaker 1: in that me and you need to do it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: we've been doing you've been doing it. It's like y'all missed.
Speaker 1: They need to do a normal hip hop and story.
Speaker 1: And I know, but what did you and what was
Speaker 1: your first thing when you when you heard that they
Speaker 1: battle and swiss? I have the phone. Who's my phone
Speaker 1: that I'll show you to come? Yes, kay, we believe it.
Speaker 1: Actually we are. We're waiting. I forgot, I got, we
Speaker 1: got y'all man drink n close until day to nine.
Speaker 1: I remember when you did the remix to it. I
Speaker 1: got them. I don't know, but but it's from the
Speaker 1: perspective of what we think is hot. And I remember
Speaker 1: when you did the remix to Uh Jose he's calling
Speaker 1: the name picking up you did with with uh what
Speaker 1: was the name? City board d Look at you? You
Speaker 1: did Veron, you did the first I gotta stop. That's
Speaker 1: definitely definitely more passed to me. Now, Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I played. I said I played your version more than
Speaker 1: fab shops Fabuse Fat. Fabris is a dope lyricist and
Speaker 1: knows how to do club records, radio records, and still
Speaker 1: have a really clever way of writing his rhyme love
Speaker 1: fab and I'm a big fan of his, but your
Speaker 1: version fit more of the format of what I represent
Speaker 1: the most grimeest money, Like you said, clean shoes, I
Speaker 1: don't like. Your version was the one I played. So
Speaker 1: we're on every Friday night from Temper on the midnight
Speaker 1: Serious X. I like radio Channel forty four, hit by Nation,
Speaker 1: and uh, what I represent is the era of the
Speaker 1: eighties with Molly Marl, reddlers, chill out. Also imagine Mi justin, yeah,
Speaker 1: just chucking, like just in the two thousand era or
Speaker 1: whatever year we're in. I still keep it to that.
Speaker 1: And there's so many artists to have hot stuff out
Speaker 1: that will never get played anywhere else. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'll play it, send it to me if I like it,
Speaker 1: and it's on at that level, it's gonna get broken
Speaker 1: and and and that way, not only do you trust me,
Speaker 1: you also start to focus on you know what, if
Speaker 1: he's playing it, it's got to be real and that's
Speaker 1: really what it is. So all of that, but now
Speaker 1: the just blades Swiss beasts. So it happens, I acting,
Speaker 1: I'm on my way to the show and Swiss is
Speaker 1: texting me saying, Yo, I like you to come check
Speaker 1: this out. My shows on from ten to midnight. They're
Speaker 1: starting at ten o'clock. He's like, yo, man, I really
Speaker 1: like and I would have gone definitely. I definitely would
Speaker 1: have gone. But I'm not abandoned my show because again
Speaker 1: it's live. It's my favos. Prerecorded cool. Live is a
Speaker 1: whole different animal. A lot. Live is when you have
Speaker 1: when I scripted nothing, We just roll. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And when it comes to how we do it,
Speaker 1: everything just flows from minute to minute, second and second beat,
Speaker 1: two beat, voice to voice him on just the realness
Speaker 1: of hip hop from my perspective. So when it came
Speaker 1: to Swiss Beats and uh, just blades doing doing the show.
Speaker 1: As soon as I got off the air, I checked
Speaker 1: my Instagram and saw they were live. I don't want
Speaker 1: to Swiss Beats. I clicked on it. I want to
Speaker 1: see my man d d Rectangle, who was one of
Speaker 1: the dopest Battle dus ever. You make the Scratch final. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I go to his show to watch him do a
Speaker 1: body gig and I'm in there with my phone going,
Speaker 1: um yeah, two in the morning. I'm like, just still
Speaker 1: on from clock and I'm doing this looking at him
Speaker 1: a little bit and they switched it over. Now I
Speaker 1: just got the bell me and the guy said, yo,
Speaker 1: just plazing them still battling. It's almost two in the
Speaker 1: morning and I'm sitting there doing this in a corner
Speaker 1: and the club where it looks like I'm like a
Speaker 1: sort of thumb, but I'm like, no, I'm watching and
Speaker 1: check it out because I want to see what they're
Speaker 1: doing to battle, because they started pulling our beats. So
Speaker 1: that's what I'm like, Well, you're still a fan of
Speaker 1: the coach. You like that. I will remain because you
Speaker 1: know why, I think. I guess being from Texas, I
Speaker 1: wanted to be accepted by New York because at the
Speaker 1: time I came, if New York didn't except you, it
Speaker 1: didn't matter where you were from at that time. Being
Speaker 1: that acceptance. I got that acceptance from the greats. I
Speaker 1: wanted E. P. M D To love me. I wanted
Speaker 1: Big Daddy came up Camp Arrest one. I wanted Grandmaster Flash,
Speaker 1: Molly All Motherfucker's better be on there. It was DJ
Speaker 1: J d J, you became Jazzy, jeff Um, Cash Money,
Speaker 1: d J Scratch, and I just wanted how E t S. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I smoked. I did earlier. No, let's just say earlier
Speaker 1: was to work. That was recent. Sorry, this guy, I
Speaker 1: told you fifty years old, you stay shot. Shoot, you
Speaker 1: gotta look at this is when you know you're on point.
Speaker 1: Never has any drugs that I've ever used defeated me
Speaker 1: and very important. At fifty, I'm on my level. You
Speaker 1: got to take a Molley though. Let's take a momy broid.
Speaker 1: That was junior. No, no, no, no, that was eighty
Speaker 1: one when they was called Black Molly and that was
Speaker 1: the own. Oh my god, this black Molly. What didn't
Speaker 1: you put us on like I would like a black
Speaker 1: all that stuff Now it's just it's like that's not
Speaker 1: mobile jumble stuff now, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, this is my high school days. So
Speaker 1: my high school days. I graduated in high school eight four, okay,
Speaker 1: So imagine our era of of getting lifted and you're
Speaker 1: looking good and we're gonna respect you. I just started
Speaker 1: training again, the big black. I'm getting my You know
Speaker 1: I love food, man, I love I love ice cream. Shot.
Speaker 1: That's the first time the podcast, that's all. And that's
Speaker 1: when you go to ice cream, you go the best
Speaker 1: when you get coops in the coup. It ain't official
Speaker 1: to you take the Hersey syrup. You can't when you
Speaker 1: when you make a wooler, you don't want to see
Speaker 1: no green. But you know the green is in the blood.
Speaker 1: That's how you do it. Let's go. That's the level drugs,
Speaker 1: you know. So I just make it the only thing
Speaker 1: I listened to. Maybe just from that, we've lost, and
Speaker 1: we've lost to all different things from being shot, being
Speaker 1: the bad disease and eating bad health, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: It let me know I'm here for a reason. I
Speaker 1: love your life and fix your life to be able
Speaker 1: to have a longer life. My parents at eight years annoys.
Speaker 1: My parents, my dad's ad eight They got and they
Speaker 1: got issues, but they're still kicking. My father makes all
Speaker 1: the food. He's like, get away from stay out of
Speaker 1: my kitchen, let me stay, get on my way. I
Speaker 1: want to be eight doing that. But I guarantee they
Speaker 1: never did the black Molley. You don't know that just
Speaker 1: this way with the black Molley. Im I was in school.
Speaker 1: When I was in high school, you get talking about
Speaker 1: black Molly was sixteen and I was sixteen. That was
Speaker 1: only one ecstasy, only one way two that was already Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm forty one. Damn, what the fun a white man?
Speaker 1: But you're about cool over here? Bro? Why is that
Speaker 1: a surprise? Yo? Dude? There was only one ecstasy was
Speaker 1: called this uh, this would right, this would yeah, and
Speaker 1: it was it was called ecstasy. Yes, but DA wasn't popping,
Speaker 1: So I didn't know that you weren't around during that time. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I was talking about I'm ten years older than you,
Speaker 1: so you gotta relax. Eighty one. I graduated high school
Speaker 1: in eighty four three. I listen, listen. There was like
Speaker 1: one style of stc one style of milley. That was it.
Speaker 1: There wasn't all twenty and there was all that. There
Speaker 1: wasn't really bear and cherry cherry juice and all these
Speaker 1: funny names. And you smoke cocato. Cocaine was more of
Speaker 1: smoking cocaine. But it's called cool. It's called crack, no wool,
Speaker 1: it's crack. And we also a cool cooly. It's cool
Speaker 1: cop cigarette. How are you yell? It's yeah, seventy seven,
Speaker 1: it's all goods. Having the blackout. I was there in
Speaker 1: my grandom, but I was there staying with my grandfather.
Speaker 1: Got during those days, it was only one of each side.
Speaker 1: That's why when I see what's going on now, it's like, damn, man,
Speaker 1: these people were so lost because there's all kinds of
Speaker 1: weird ship flow. Now I don't want to be around
Speaker 1: none of that. You know, we're around the pure. And
Speaker 1: again that that's kind of like the hippie seventies hallucinogens.
Speaker 1: It was the time and all that the the the
Speaker 1: but those beat you was making the bit of the
Speaker 1: body called give the drugs a little bit of props.
Speaker 1: We just have to be in. You know, you're the
Speaker 1: only guy that makes for draws. I'm not making no drugs.
Speaker 1: But but again, I'm glad that drink. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: I understand the concept of that era because understanding it
Speaker 1: and understanding where your cut off point is, you don't
Speaker 1: need to rehab. You rehab yourself with your mind. I've
Speaker 1: always said that to control yourself. And I know when
Speaker 1: can't controlling to draw myself, that's too much. Go back
Speaker 1: to normal. And then that that that's how people can
Speaker 1: wonder about you. But they can't say, yo, my man
Speaker 1: is lost, he's gone. You can never say I'm gone.
Speaker 1: I'm always here. That now he was recently beefing with Time.
Speaker 1: What from you don't even know who all of us
Speaker 1: from my times describe what happened. Ain't you dissatisfied with
Speaker 1: the um He's not, He's not. I'll say this. I
Speaker 1: had a little I listened. I had a little coosy
Speaker 1: verse situation. Oh that was you. Yeah, But first I
Speaker 1: wasn't offended by that, right, I be offended that he
Speaker 1: don't want to wrap to that. If that's not what
Speaker 1: you want to rap mass Field, that's not really a
Speaker 1: big and it don't make sense for no makes sense
Speaker 1: for him, don't make sense for him. I have other
Speaker 1: games I beat you can wrap to freestyle about. It
Speaker 1: wasn't massive pill it was it was it was it
Speaker 1: was memory man in there. I saw it too, and
Speaker 1: what happened described because I'm not rapping to that. So
Speaker 1: he said, why is that wrapping the breakbeat? Listen? Twitter
Speaker 1: started blowing up on my Twitter. He started to get
Speaker 1: out of hand. Everybody disinal. Then he joins him, So
Speaker 1: I want to see what he says. So I checked
Speaker 1: his traffic because I gotta make sure I'm on point
Speaker 1: before I do anything. You always got to stay focused
Speaker 1: on being on point. I know who I am. I
Speaker 1: don't never want to be looked as a person I
Speaker 1: got played ever and are not going to be looked
Speaker 1: that way. Absolutely. So when I checked the thread, I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, yeah, because it's getting out of hand.
Speaker 1: My fans are going hard on him, like, yo, you
Speaker 1: know that they're doing with this? Yeah, they want to
Speaker 1: kill him. Yeah. So I'm like yo, out there, I'm like, listen,
Speaker 1: pick up to him. Man, he ain't get around to that.
Speaker 1: If he don't like that, he doesn't like that, that's
Speaker 1: what I put He's then wrap what he feels like.
Speaker 1: It's comfortable. So that made him join in and said, yo,
Speaker 1: d m me. We damned each other. He said, listen, man,
Speaker 1: anything I can learn from you put me on. And
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, really know, I said, I'm
Speaker 1: join with you. My fans may get mad, but the
Speaker 1: only none because the difference is the same thing. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna make a record that's that I can't let
Speaker 1: leave the studio to me and him on the same level.
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, wait today, better, You're not gonna compromise yourself.
Speaker 1: You're gonna work. No. But but that's the let me
Speaker 1: tell you something let me tell you something. When you
Speaker 1: work with Pream, you work with Pete. These brothers are
Speaker 1: so professional. All you gotta do is sending the vocals
Speaker 1: and then relax. Skills that I turned into my own skill.
Speaker 1: It's not biting them. But he's like, you know, that's
Speaker 1: how you do it. And I was like, how do
Speaker 1: you reminisce? I was like yo, but I was like,
Speaker 1: how are you making that? I was like, how are
Speaker 1: you making the base get fuller and mimic the sample?
Speaker 1: He said, it's the same sample, but I feel it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, but how do you do that's come up?
Speaker 1: I'll show you, but don't show him. He showed him, like,
Speaker 1: so you turned it to that same thing we have.
Speaker 1: But I never knew that part of the equipment he said,
Speaker 1: turned into that. I started doing it ex Girl, the
Speaker 1: next girl. That's my joints to all my relationships. So
Speaker 1: when he goes in that part, where does it go muffled?
Speaker 1: I sent it to Pete to make sure I was
Speaker 1: doing it right. I love my wife, I believe in
Speaker 1: myself and all that stuff, but I wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure I was doing it right, so I sent it
Speaker 1: to him for approval. I go yo, Did I do
Speaker 1: it right? He goes low. That's gonna be a hit.
Speaker 1: It was a hit, big hit. So when you come
Speaker 1: back right there shows you that the respect for what
Speaker 1: he was doing. Before I even knew how he was
Speaker 1: doing it, he was willing to show me the trick
Speaker 1: because he knew. He didn't take it like all, No,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't beat my fight my style. Let me let
Speaker 1: me ball that tool. And then when I applied that tool,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a fight. It's just another another extension of
Speaker 1: what he taught me. That's why him law professor show
Speaker 1: is all my three mentors. And again Molly mar didn't
Speaker 1: show me anything in person, just what he did commusic
Speaker 1: with your mouth BIS. Nobody beats the BIS road to
Speaker 1: the ridges. A lot of people in the circle have
Speaker 1: said they've given them them the I gave him that record.
Speaker 1: That's all good. He did the that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1: Who made it bounce that way? Who made your echo
Speaker 1: sound that way? Who made your voice sound funky that way?
Speaker 1: Molly did it, And that's all that matters to me
Speaker 1: because that's what makes me be premier in order to
Speaker 1: be to stay doing it the way you do it
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life and in my past.
Speaker 1: And it's because of how I study a great one.
Speaker 1: So whatever you brought to him is what you brought
Speaker 1: to him. He still made it glow. The gurus always
Speaker 1: say that you and Eddie Sancho make everything glow. He said,
Speaker 1: I just laid my part down, but you make it
Speaker 1: light up. Molly makes things light up. So when no
Speaker 1: matter what you bring him or you gave him everything,
Speaker 1: he made it light up. Or without the light, there's darkness.
Speaker 1: I want to be in light. What don't think about
Speaker 1: like the separation of sampling and hip hop? So now,
Speaker 1: I mean does it matter We understand the rules and
Speaker 1: the sample of all. I mean, I understand the sampling
Speaker 1: and financial you just it takes away the soul me personally,
Speaker 1: I think sometimes it don't you just get illow with
Speaker 1: your sample well now and cutting it so nobody knows
Speaker 1: what it is and if it's bad, but it's still sampling.
Speaker 1: Is you might go and just get you're still sampling, Yeah,
Speaker 1: following jo booprint, which is what? Yeah, I mean we're
Speaker 1: lost because we're not records in little little movies. Oh
Speaker 1: like we know now that the safety zones versions, and
Speaker 1: then there's just the point where we gotta do it.
Speaker 1: And it's really that that that had important. Now I
Speaker 1: just now, no, we got no money, we can't clear anything.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me that you're in trouble. Like I said,
Speaker 1: he taught me scratch. Folks. If you just listen to
Speaker 1: a lot of my joints, this is me scratching that
Speaker 1: crazy you were doing radio already with Molly Mall. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: this new guy, Pete Rob he's nasty because Molly had
Speaker 1: a certain scratched hour show. This out there kind of foul.
Speaker 1: N I'm gonna smoke with camel crush in our face
Speaker 1: because no good. Just give us cancer people win, White
Speaker 1: people like lucky strikes. You got moornaments. You gotta funk
Speaker 1: with the white monaments. Twhen you leave it, you're good
Speaker 1: is white and the white person. When we did the record,
Speaker 1: the record that we did together, I say, I think
Speaker 1: that I was the first person to ask you to
Speaker 1: cut up Gurus vocals. Wasn't see me everything right? Was
Speaker 1: the person? I don't know? No jay z j Z
Speaker 1: did you don't know, But after his death, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, said you sent me everything?
Speaker 1: Yeah no, he had hosted mad Men States from me
Speaker 1: and I was honored. Yeah yeah no DJ yeah no
Speaker 1: if it was Google, DJ was damn you remember really
Speaker 1: isn't back that ship. I have nothing against him, have
Speaker 1: ill memories. I apologize fact, but there's no apology needed
Speaker 1: when you had this, So apologies policies don't get that
Speaker 1: only sold one million records, so you have twenty You
Speaker 1: think it's about to stop listening, Jessy, but Google, who
Speaker 1: passes away? Yeah? What's what? What's this man head name
Speaker 1: you gotta saying? I can't say because no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: not even the yeah, holy ship. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on right now. You helped me out. He don't
Speaker 1: deserve he don't deserve to be it said from it's
Speaker 1: not a good person in France. No, No, that's two
Speaker 1: different Ones's solar as so LUs another solo. He's from friend,
Speaker 1: he's dope, that's my dude, right, so it's another solar
Speaker 1: together of course, all right, so we got to clarify that.
Speaker 1: So Long I'm so sorry to actually, as you say,
Speaker 1: but so Long makes these claims and then with his
Speaker 1: premier standing on all the type of stuff put to
Speaker 1: you like this, um people could yeah, say what they
Speaker 1: want to say and all that type of stuff. That's
Speaker 1: all cool because I don't have nothing to say when
Speaker 1: it comes to that. But if old Boy does anything,
Speaker 1: then I'll have a lot to problem symbol and play.
Speaker 1: That's my Belichick moment. Heard you, that was Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: Anything was done, Chris Green, we love you, we love
Speaker 1: you back, and we love you and everything you meant
Speaker 1: to hip hop and then you know it was it
Speaker 1: was a funny moment. Everything I mean that I'm you know,
Speaker 1: everything you I apologize, you mean the hip hop and
Speaker 1: you know, it was a funny moment for us in
Speaker 1: hip hop when we got to hear like you know
Speaker 1: that's like yo gangster and you know, and the intention
Speaker 1: then this guy and we never because we It's similar
Speaker 1: to how Pun like when Pun died, I walked to
Speaker 1: his casket and they told me, I said, all the jewels,
Speaker 1: because I thought the most funeral homes the caskets at
Speaker 1: the front up. His was in the middle of the
Speaker 1: middle of the middle of the lord. So when I
Speaker 1: walk in, was like, oh, he's right there, right there,
Speaker 1: And the casket was I've never seen a casket like this. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've never seen the cas casket was short and super duper,
Speaker 1: and he had all his TSS chained around his hands
Speaker 1: and it looked like he was kissing the sky because
Speaker 1: the lip would puck it up like. That's my point.
Speaker 1: My point of bringing this up was when I when
Speaker 1: I went to punts casket, people told me that punching
Speaker 1: suff that something up punched suffering, and that now he's
Speaker 1: in a better place. And I didn't. I didn't know
Speaker 1: what people meant. So when I heard, you know, Google pass, yeah,
Speaker 1: and never I've never seen Google suffer. Nah, so either either.
Speaker 1: So everything was just a strange not just me, everybody,
Speaker 1: and not like if not the fans, who we are massive,
Speaker 1: it's ains to everybody. Is strange to me, the strange
Speaker 1: to the fans because oh boy, don't know my man
Speaker 1: like I know my man. We know him. Well. If
Speaker 1: I really wanted to grade dude on a five quiz question, there,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you'll fail. Every answer simple and plain because
Speaker 1: you had to really really really really really really really
Speaker 1: really know my duty. So you will fail. I can
Speaker 1: watch you right now and make every little sad simple questions.
Speaker 1: Not hard on simple questions, He's going to fail. And
Speaker 1: it's gonna also be multiple choice ABC A D. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna pick the right answer. And I know this
Speaker 1: because I know this and I know him. I know
Speaker 1: both of them. So that's why I don't entertain them.
Speaker 1: Because anytime he wants to ever go there, I'm here.
Speaker 1: If I'm not here, I'm here. Um you feel me
Speaker 1: damning premier right now. And now we'll not say his name.
Speaker 1: It's not worthy of because hip hop needed to hear
Speaker 1: that show. Hi, Hey pop really need this. How can
Speaker 1: we make them do that? When things is the right move?
Speaker 1: I know what it is. How about the right people
Speaker 1: around me, from legal to my management to my artists,
Speaker 1: for me even being in the street, I have a
Speaker 1: stream mentality that keeps me grounded. And I have a dog,
Speaker 1: mom and dad and sisters and niece and nephews like
Speaker 1: five year old son, who's my dude? Shout to his mother.
Speaker 1: She's point everybody like, we're that connected on making sure
Speaker 1: we don't ever funk up with the social media stuff
Speaker 1: making us up like we're fools. Ain't going out like that.
Speaker 1: I'm premier that the mother. Yeah, listen, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with me and this guy to
Speaker 1: the right of me started this. We sat down and
Speaker 1: we said, we want the only give love to the legends,
Speaker 1: the legends at hip hop. You guys are the impitot
Speaker 1: me of let this is, this is the pinnacle, and
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't thank you enough, Like you know,
Speaker 1: both of you guys that gave me beats and that's
Speaker 1: crazy about this thing about it. I still can't do that. Still, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I still owe you both because I love you. You
Speaker 1: don't nah, I love you guys because I've been starting.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to give yourself with that beating that mean tonight.
Speaker 1: Please give me that crazy man, y'a dude, I was
Speaker 1: kind to Pege. You got here. Give me because I
Speaker 1: want Pete to know, so up the club. I really
Speaker 1: want to do this for your album, Pete. For man.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for you, guys, I probably wouldn't have
Speaker 1: a childhood, no doubt. And this is real ship. And
Speaker 1: that's real ship. I really love joints that we love.
Speaker 1: I want the first time I heard it, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: don't swish not only killed that smash everybody on that song.
Speaker 1: I wanted to do a posse cut. You know what happened.
Speaker 1: I wanted to do a posse cut your body that open.
Speaker 1: Whoever gets crazy ship, whoever goes first to me, and
Speaker 1: whoever goes last has the most. I wouldn't last. That
Speaker 1: was that or because right now listen, really do have
Speaker 1: to punt. It was nature pun cam What what you wanted?
Speaker 1: I'm the last? Yeah? What what all you wanted? That's
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do, dude. But you know what,
Speaker 1: my whole life, my whole career makes sense. I have
Speaker 1: a question if it wasn't for you, I have a
Speaker 1: question on that song. He said, that's why I'll never
Speaker 1: do a song with you. Was that directed anybody? Or
Speaker 1: was that just hat you're talking about somebody? Bro, he's
Speaker 1: super fatty. I know he was. Somebody was directing somebody, oh,
Speaker 1: because you know, it can also be universal just somebody
Speaker 1: I know this guy. That's why I'm not it was
Speaker 1: like Joseph on the block. It's very true because the
Speaker 1: thing about it is this, I'm very pretty prim I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta beat. I'm very preddy, so I don't
Speaker 1: get ready time If you're trying to come up and
Speaker 1: you take a slight shot at me. I'm coming to
Speaker 1: fuck us my body. You want the rack, which is
Speaker 1: very just might go that's what That's who I am
Speaker 1: when I met him. This is how he looked at
Speaker 1: and all these twisting ban on. He's at the front door. Yo,
Speaker 1: we got session up at d N d Yo for
Speaker 1: me and look your stuffy Jose Luise not weeks. How
Speaker 1: you doing. He's like, yeah, l A R l A
Speaker 1: l A was really bumping with a lot of d
Speaker 1: J at that time. It was early, so we don't
Speaker 1: really know who he is yet. We just know who
Speaker 1: Littui's got that rock him around like m rules and
Speaker 1: around l A l A. That's my first meeting in him,
Speaker 1: not Pa Jose Louis to Noriega. He goes, who was
Speaker 1: in the wheats like like, don't forget a little dip
Speaker 1: is the reason why you got around and shoulder but
Speaker 1: the song was already out where like that's to do
Speaker 1: different and that's the verse that made me. I can't
Speaker 1: believe you know I got We just did a beat
Speaker 1: for you right now. Yea, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: You know what we gotta do something where we make
Speaker 1: a beat together, which we've never done. We start things
Speaker 1: that dreat near that right now, because you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't know if you're not you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know. But wherever state you at, I'll fly there
Speaker 1: like that and I would just like thank you for
Speaker 1: lace and black poets out the black print. No no
Speaker 1: problems body that verse. But this is the reason why
Speaker 1: you're so much of important producer. You can go and
Speaker 1: you can work with Caristina and I got and then
Speaker 1: you can turn around and you still care. I love music. Listen,
Speaker 1: I love music. I love listen. I love That's what
Speaker 1: it is. I like I like messing with all styles
Speaker 1: of music because I am into country, blues, gospel, rock, past, yeah, prave.
Speaker 1: You is the tea you ever drink? Leans? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: screw by the way, but but the Leans. But even that,
Speaker 1: that's when it was like now's an epidemic. Was an
Speaker 1: epidemic then, and it was something that you just did
Speaker 1: every occasion, like going out to a bar in Heaven.
Speaker 1: I don't drink every day, you know, I got I
Speaker 1: got work to do it, a business, a hand or
Speaker 1: I stay focused from a five year old son. I'm focused,
Speaker 1: but I'm still question. We're about to open the car,
Speaker 1: finish his story. So I mean so a lot of
Speaker 1: the things again that are just out of control, are
Speaker 1: just way uh publicized, are promoted on a higher pedestal.
Speaker 1: Already did all that stuff. It's about living past that
Speaker 1: and being able to still function on what's the matters
Speaker 1: that keep you in the longevity bucket. I want to
Speaker 1: be in the longevity bucket. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: in the you know you had your time bucket. My
Speaker 1: bucket want. I want to go all the way even
Speaker 1: again when I'm gone, it's still hot. The gang starts
Speaker 1: still hot, start still hot because I care about not
Speaker 1: just his legacy and a high legacy as as a team,
Speaker 1: but his son. He has a sixteen year old son.
Speaker 1: I'm making sure his son to eating. I'm making sure
Speaker 1: your son getting everything that's his father, Tad. I don't
Speaker 1: think you the bone. I wouldn't deal right that. My
Speaker 1: motto is this, I can sleep at night. That's my
Speaker 1: mom That's the most important thing. Sleeping at night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can sleep at night. A lot of people you can.
Speaker 1: You don't understand that I don't have nightmares like anybody else,
Speaker 1: but my nightmares are clear from how I analyzed what
Speaker 1: I woke up to. You hand your business. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can sleep and love man. My mind is strong man.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna end this podcast, but I can't thank
Speaker 1: you brother helping helping me. Both of you both routed
Speaker 1: me personally because my career couldn't be complete. I could
Speaker 1: never complete my career without having a peat rock beat,
Speaker 1: premier beat appreciation. Hip hop is what I want to
Speaker 1: continue to represent. I want to continue to stand by it.
Speaker 1: I can't believe twenty five million and I hate this
Speaker 1: guy right here a me Brouse. You knew you had
Speaker 1: let me act. You should have told me on Wednesday. No,
Speaker 1: you just good friend. You deserve surprise, you Broser, you
Speaker 1: don't know that. Yeah, I love you. I can't believe
Speaker 1: just from him. You ask everything I do outside of
Speaker 1: hip hop. When I do hip hop, I keep it hud,
Speaker 1: keep it hood. Everything else I could do balance, slow songs,
Speaker 1: pop songs doesn't matter because I like that music too.
Speaker 1: Hip hop. I keep it, keep it hood because that's
Speaker 1: why I like to listen to it. When I buy it.
Speaker 1: Drive to it or have my radio if you'll always
Speaker 1: either my radio. You guys are the bed rock. Please
Speaker 1: stay listen. If it wasn't for you too, brothers, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have a childhood. Brothers. That's well deserved. What you got.
Speaker 1: It's better and you could say it was ain't on.
Speaker 1: Let's be on rap. This is a podcast. They should
Speaker 1: make it platinum though, why they make it go steps,
Speaker 1: it's not twenty five right, Let's let you know what
Speaker 1: you know what he actual's right, it should be, It's
Speaker 1: should be. I'm just happy to be here right now,
Speaker 1: and let's give thanks man. The best producers of all
Speaker 1: times have just now sat down absolutely all to drink.
Speaker 1: Champs and Jim being jam. You're picking up Jim bumping,
Speaker 1: can't Chase cut the check and we would have one
Speaker 1: more shot yet shot. I'm saying he's going to because
Speaker 1: at the end of the day and we're gonna say
Speaker 1: and watching the battle, thank you. Because when I seen
Speaker 1: the battle and when I seen that this they said,
Speaker 1: this is the first time excuse me, the whole thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely have a shot. When they said that this
Speaker 1: is the first time, uh new stance is battled terrible.
Speaker 1: I felt terrible. They said that this is the first
Speaker 1: time to produce is first all, and I knew that
Speaker 1: you'all guys have done this. I knew that just Blaze
Speaker 1: actually had done it with Alchemists before, and so how
Speaker 1: want I wanted to actually big you brothers up because
Speaker 1: I understand what it is. But I also understand that
Speaker 1: Swiss also knows the game. He's the student of the game.
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