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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecoff Three and Out

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Speaker 1: Podcast back at it again. Another beautiful day, another beautiful

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. Uh, the Bears, Mike Chicago Bears, my guy

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Speaker 1: Matt Naggy, big win, huge win against Tampa Bay. Uh,

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Speaker 1: pretty good Thursday night game on it. I was pretty glued.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you. Obviously will dive into that,

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Speaker 1: you know, Brady, the Bears, Khalil Mack off the top,

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Speaker 1: and then a ton of a lot of stuff going on. Uh,

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Speaker 1: some thoughts on the injuries around the league. I kind

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Speaker 1: of had an epiphany, little theory Carson wentz uh some

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of you have greatly appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: But let's start with the Thursday night game, and let's

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Speaker 1: just start. I mean, he's the most famous player, i'd

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Speaker 1: say in NFL history. We consider him the greatest player

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Speaker 1: lot of great players do. Joe Montana ended up playing

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Speaker 1: you know, I've been told I didn't see this. Willie

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Speaker 1: players don't finish their career with the team they start

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Speaker 1: their career with. This one was a little weird because

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Speaker 1: they've been having so much success, even a down year

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Speaker 1: last year with Brady. We We've hammered on every single

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Speaker 1: angle with the breakup, but one thing he was getting

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Speaker 1: got a lot of players, right even O J. Howard

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Speaker 1: They got Evans, they got little Scottie Miller, Godwin will

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Speaker 1: like their offensive weaponry is really good. It's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be an issue. But Bruce Arians, you know, listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: He likes his guy guys right kind of on edge.

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Speaker 1: And when you're right on edge, sometimes you go over

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Speaker 1: that edge. Tonight they had eleven penalties for a hundred

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Speaker 1: kind of freewheel it it works though it really works.

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Speaker 1: But Tom Brady, you know, is coming from the most

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Speaker 1: buttoned up operation I don't know in the U in

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Speaker 1: sports history with the Patriots, right they when you think

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Speaker 1: guys are just on point because at any moment, Belichick

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Speaker 1: He's had nothing but success, success since he came into

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Speaker 1: this is just a dramatic change for Tom. And obviously

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Speaker 1: the thing that goes viral is Tom screaming. I love

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Speaker 1: The problem, though, is he can scream all he wants.

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Speaker 1: news for you, Tom, that's Khalil fucking act. They gave

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Speaker 1: him a hundred million dollars or ninety million dollars guarantee.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the best pass rushers you know of

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're screaming at him for, even

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Speaker 1: I'll pay Aaron Donald huge money till the cows come on.

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Speaker 1: And when the Bears get that level a version, their

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Speaker 1: offense just needs to be decent. They couldn't run the

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Speaker 1: plane paying you is not fucking good enough. That is

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Speaker 1: not acceptable. That ain't gonna fly, and we're gonna draft

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Kind of wake up. But the curveball is

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Speaker 1: I thought Jalen Hurts could be a running back. We'll

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Speaker 1: draft a quarterback, and we'll say we're a quarterback factory,

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Speaker 1: which historically under Andy Reid they definitely were. Hell they had.

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Speaker 1: They want a super Bowl with their backup quarterback. They're

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Speaker 1: not lying, but they also know if Carson just gets

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Speaker 1: the train back on the tracks and becoming the star

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Speaker 1: that we think and know that he has been before,

436
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Speaker 1: we can always move this guy to another position, or

437
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Speaker 1: we could develop him see if he's any good. If

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Speaker 1: he's not, you know, if we can't trade him, we'll

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Speaker 1: just move the running back. So it gives them some options.

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Speaker 1: We're not just stuck with a quarterback. Only that's where

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Speaker 1: when I see that takes them hill comparison. I just

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Speaker 1: think they're thinking like it'll wake Carson up, it'll help

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Speaker 1: focus up, but it will also give us another chess

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Speaker 1: beast to play with. So it's not just like we're

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Speaker 1: drafting a Josh Rosen type and I'm just using him

446
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Speaker 1: as example. They can only play quarterback like their guy

447
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Speaker 1: can play other stuff. Now. The way they're using them

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Speaker 1: a red flag a little bit. But I would just

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Speaker 1: put him in the backfield, hand on the ball, or

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Speaker 1: given to some reverses where he could throw it. But

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Speaker 1: I do wonder if that was a motivational tactic, if

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Speaker 1: there was part of that going. You know what, I

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Speaker 1: think that Carson Wentz, this will help him just kind

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Speaker 1: of wake up and get the Carson Wentz that we

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Speaker 1: saw years ago, and get these weird external you know

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Speaker 1: uh stories that are floating out there about teammates hating

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Speaker 1: them or whatever, and just no, bro, you're not some

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Speaker 1: sacred cow round here, despite what we paid you. Like,

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Speaker 1: we just drafted a quarterback in the second round. That

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Speaker 1: was wild. I think we all went woa, wow, who what?

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Speaker 1: And maybe they had a purpose with that. They're one

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Speaker 1: of the most six scessiful organizations over the last two decades.

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Speaker 1: They don't do random things. I've been there, I've seen

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Speaker 1: it seem how we operated, I do I really think

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Speaker 1: that's the reason that they drafted him to motivate Carson

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Speaker 1: Watz or part of the drafting of them, and also

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Speaker 1: knowing that at the end of the day the kid

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Speaker 1: could play another position. Okay, since the Bill O'Brien firing

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Speaker 1: happened earlier this week, there have been a lot of

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Speaker 1: stories that have come out, and it reminds me of

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Speaker 1: something and I think we all can relate. When I

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Speaker 1: think of a hothead, I think of someone playing golf

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Speaker 1: who can't control their emotions and throws clubs and freaks

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Speaker 1: out after everything. I would imagine any of you that

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Speaker 1: play golf have a buddy that is just a complete

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Speaker 1: hothead on the golf course. Now, I also think it's

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Speaker 1: I've worked in an office setting where everyone knows who

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Speaker 1: the hothead is. The moment something goes wrong, they freak

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Speaker 1: out and they just have zero control of their emotions.

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Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, those people can actually be really

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Speaker 1: normal and really impressive, but if something sets them off

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it's a rap and they become like

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Speaker 1: this emotional tornado. I mean, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: ideally you want people that are pretty consistent and the

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Speaker 1: most successful people I've been around in life, can get

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Speaker 1: angry like it's it's a human you know, It's it's

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Speaker 1: natural to get piste off like that is normal when

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Speaker 1: something goes wrong, especially that if you're a coach about something,

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Speaker 1: if you're a manager about something where the expectations are set,

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Speaker 1: it's it's normal to get mad. That's no matter who

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Speaker 1: you are, whether you're a pastor at a church or

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Speaker 1: whether you're running a fortunate company, like, you can get mad.

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Speaker 1: There are different ways. Maybe you know, I would swear

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Speaker 1: some people would just scream. Who knows. We all handle

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Speaker 1: our anger a little different. But to me, a hothead

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Speaker 1: is someone that like just wears you out. And I

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Speaker 1: would say, if things are going perfect, like if everyone's

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Speaker 1: making money or the football teams winning games, you can

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Speaker 1: tolerate a hothead. But the moment things turned south, no

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Speaker 1: one wants to be around that guy. And clearly Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien had turned into just the ultimate hothead, a guy

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Speaker 1: who couldn't control his emotions, a guy who had just

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Speaker 1: at any moment could have crazy outbreaks of screaming and

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Speaker 1: everyone pointing the finger at everyone but himself. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: there were reports this week that him and J J.

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Speaker 1: Watt got into a very very verbal confrontation, which, let's

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Speaker 1: face it, in the sport of football, like in probably

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Speaker 1: in certain jobs, but football is, you know, a unique job.

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Speaker 1: It's it's all men, alpha males. They're screaming. That goes on.

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Speaker 1: That is not abnormal. Now, the way it was described

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Speaker 1: in the report about J. J. Watt screaming and basically

512
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Speaker 1: saying you can't coach your ship isn't working as he's

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Speaker 1: blasting back at J. J. Watt was pretty telling because

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Speaker 1: when I think J. J. Watt, I kind of think

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Speaker 1: the opposite of a hotad. I think of a guy

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Speaker 1: that has it together, like the ultimate team guy, the guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, really one of the stalwarts of the league

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Speaker 1: from a character standpoint. And so when the report came

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Speaker 1: out that J. J. Watted had enough, that wasn't a

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Speaker 1: good sign. And honestly, I'm sure we'll find out more

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Speaker 1: as time goes on, makes sense why he was fired.

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Speaker 1: The moment you lose your best player, the heartbeat of

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Speaker 1: your team, it's a rap. Like the owner and I

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Speaker 1: talked about it earlier this week. I'm I'm a big

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Speaker 1: believer in sunk costs. The moment you know what's the

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Speaker 1: point of holding on. Like so many people get divorced.

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Speaker 1: They wanted to get divorced three years ago. So many

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Speaker 1: people quit a job and they've been thinking about doing

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Speaker 1: it for three years. It is hard, you know, to

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Speaker 1: pull the trigger. And I would imagine cal mcnaird said

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Speaker 1: it wasn't an easy decision, but I bet he'd been

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Speaker 1: thinking about it a year ago. The problem was he

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Speaker 1: gave him all that juice. His star players turned on him,

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Speaker 1: and reports were the equipment staff, that doctors. Everybody hated

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Speaker 1: the guy. You know why, because everyone eventually hates a hothhead.

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Speaker 1: They're just they become assholes, they become people you don't

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Speaker 1: want to spend any time around. So Bill O'Brien, I

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Speaker 1: talked about it last week. His resume four playoffs in

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Speaker 1: five years. Can you imagine all these head coaches that

540
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: always get fired if they had that. If you go

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs four times, look at Ron Rivera playoffs

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Speaker 1: several times, immediately gets a head job immediately. Most of

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Speaker 1: these guys that get second these retrade coaches like Pat

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Speaker 1: Schrumer got a second job, never wanted damn thing, and

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Speaker 1: it was fired in two years. Bill O'Brien the coach works,

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Speaker 1: but Bill O'Brien, the person right now needs to do

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Speaker 1: some just self evaluation and listen, I I support getting mad,

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Speaker 1: and I remember when he was on Hard Knocks he

549
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: swears a lot. Now I don't. It doesn't bother me.

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Speaker 1: But when you can't get along with anyone like that, eventually,

551
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Speaker 1: what does Colin Coward always used to say, that's a

552
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: you problem. Like Bill O'Brian needs to do some self

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Speaker 1: reflection because he's too good of a coach to not

554
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: be a head coach again. But if he's gonna act

555
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: like this, what general manager in their right mind is

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00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: gonna want to associate themselves with this guy. The players

557
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: like clearly he's kind of red flagged in the league,

558
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Speaker 1: is like is he getting along with anyone? And you know, J. J.

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00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: Watt tweeted a picture of like the dome open and

560
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: you could see the sun and it was pretty telling

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00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: like that he ain't missing him, you know, And and

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Speaker 1: and he was a guy under Bill O'Brien's watch where

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Speaker 1: Watt became a superstar, became a Hall of Famer, and

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Speaker 1: he's like, see you, uh, don't let the door hit you.

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Speaker 1: Not a good sign, you know, not not a good

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Speaker 1: sign at all. And I think when you are a

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Speaker 1: hothead and you wear on guys, there has to be

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Speaker 1: some sort of balance. And clearly with Bill O'Brien, he

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Speaker 1: was obsessed with power, obsessed with being the guy that

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Speaker 1: was just in charge of everything. And I always pushed back,

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Speaker 1: why do you want to be in charge of the

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Speaker 1: training room? Why do you want to be in charge

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Speaker 1: of the doctor? Not your expertise, So waste of your time.

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Speaker 1: Worry about the football team and you're you're not a

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Speaker 1: very good evaluator. Just worry about coaching the team. Let

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Speaker 1: someone else pick your players because you don't understand any value.

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Speaker 1: You're spending a million dollar on seven dollar homes, You're

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Speaker 1: gonna go broke, and and kind of right now, the

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Speaker 1: Texans are broke. I had an agent telling me this week,

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Speaker 1: I think Texas a terrible job. They got two players

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Speaker 1: under contract. You want the quarterback and the left tackle.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, no, their salary caps and shambles. Other

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Speaker 1: draft picks are non existent because the Dolphins have them. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Their owner. From what I've heard is you know I've

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Speaker 1: said it earlier. I'm not trying to you know, I've

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Speaker 1: tried during Corona. The media is so negative. I hate

587
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Speaker 1: being negative, but I'm just I'm just repeating what I heard.

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Speaker 1: Not the sharpest tool in the shed, you know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Texans are just this for

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Speaker 1: for a team that that has a quarterback. I just

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Speaker 1: wonder if they're gonna end up with a good coach.

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Speaker 1: I would doubt it, and I would imagine they're going

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Speaker 1: to go the complete opposite direction. Try to get a

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00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: nice guy, try to get more of a player's coach,

595
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: because usually right when you when you get a divorce,

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00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: you look for the opposite. When you get rid of

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00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 1: your coach, you look for the opposite. You go from

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00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, you go from Parcels to Pete Carroll to Belichick.

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Speaker 1: You go from Jim Harbaugh to Tom Sula. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is usually how it works. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: just they're set up, if it's a good job at all.

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Speaker 1: But but Bill O'Brien, uh, he's just your prototypical hothead

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Speaker 1: right now. Okay, let's do a little three for the money. Now,

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Speaker 1: let me remind you I got I gotta I gotta

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Speaker 1: hammer this home. If you want to listen to podcast

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Speaker 1: next week, subscribe to the Three and Out with John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff its own feet. If you have iTunes, it's on iTunes.

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Speaker 1: You have Spotify, it's on Spotify. Just look for the

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Speaker 1: subscribe to that podcast. Okay, three for the money. Before

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Speaker 1: I picked three games a week, I'm eight and four.

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Speaker 1: Got a little lucky because I took. When I did

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Speaker 1: this on Thursday, the Ravens line was thirteen. I ended

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Speaker 1: up betting it at fourteen and that didn't cover. But

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Speaker 1: when I said it here, it was thirteen and it covered.

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Speaker 1: So last week I had the Bills minus three easy

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Speaker 1: cover against the Raiders. Ravens minus thirteen barely covered. It

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Speaker 1: turns out Lamar Jackson might be hurt because they pulled.

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Speaker 1: They put an RG three with like four and a

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Speaker 1: half minutes left. Lamar is in practice all week. I

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Speaker 1: don't have an update there. I've just seen it as

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Speaker 1: in practice. We don't know anything yet. Who knows, maybe

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Speaker 1: tweaked a knee or something. And then the Rams minus

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Speaker 1: thirteen last week laid an absolute egg against the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Don't totally blame them, though, I mean to me, you're

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Speaker 1: allowed bad efforts against bad teams as long as you win.

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Speaker 1: It's the NFL. You're not gonna play a perfect game

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Speaker 1: every week. If you're see game against terrible teams like

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Speaker 1: the Giants and the Jets can win your games. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Niners blow them out, but you don't get style

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Speaker 1: points in the NFL. This is in college football. You

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Speaker 1: don't get ranked. Who cares the Rams one? That's all

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Speaker 1: the matters. So the Rams and Niners both played the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Rams barely beat him, Niners blow them out. Yet they

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Speaker 1: both got a win, So it's all that matters, except

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Speaker 1: if you bet on the Rams, which I did and

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00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: they screwed me. But I'm gonna be honest. I'm ating four,

638
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: so I'm good. If I just bet on my own picks,

639
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: I'd be in great shape. The Rams, I'm going back

640
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: to that well because I don't expect them to play bad.

641
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: Two weeks in a row and they're playing the Washington

642
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: football team who bench Dwayne Haskins, which the media hates. Listen.

643
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera has been coaching this league since I was

644
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: like in junior high, and he doesn't like Dwayne Haskins.

645
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers did extensive research on quarterbacks two years

646
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: ago when Cams banged up, So to me, they have

647
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: a good idea of what they thought about Dwayne Haskins.

648
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: Then they've got to be around Dwayne Haskins virtually in

649
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: the offseason, at training camp and early in the game,

650
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: and they can't stand him, like I'm sorry, you're allowed that,

651
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: and Dwayne ad good enough to not be can't stand it.

652
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: So I I don't know what else to say. But

653
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: beside Ron and is OC don't like Dwayne. They kicked

654
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: him to the third place, you know, our third string,

655
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: third place. He died to be three place, the third string.

656
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: The Rams I think actually are in third place. Maybe

657
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: they actually they're in second, but maybe I think technically

658
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: on the on the standings there in third. But it's irrelevant.

659
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: The Washington is not any good. But I just think

660
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera, who's going through chemotherapy right now, does not

661
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: want to wash Dwayne Haskins playing any for more football now.

662
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't like Kyle Allen. Ron does for whatever reason,

663
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: and that d O C does. I don't know why

664
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet against him. At seven and a half.

665
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: I like the Rams to go to Washington. Now that

666
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: the Rams have had a crazy travel they played, they

667
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: played the Bills, and they played the Eagles, well technically

668
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: went Eagles Bills, but between the Eagles and the Bills game,

669
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: they flew back to l A. Then they played the

670
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: Giants and laid like a dud. And now they're flying

671
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: back to Washington before next week playing the Niners. So

672
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: their travel has been kind of crazy. I just think

673
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: the Rams offensively are so loaded or so potent. I

674
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: can't see Washington scoring many points. I'm going back to

675
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: the well Rams minus seven and a half. Sean McVeigh,

676
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, Please, I keep betting on you. Stop letting

677
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: me down. The Panthers. They're playing the Falcons this week.

678
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: Here's what I know. Matt Rule is a good coach.

679
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: He is just there's no way around it. They gave

680
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: him seventy six seventy million dollars. I thought they were

681
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: gonna be terrible. I thought they had one of the

682
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: worst rosters in the league. I was like, getting teddy,

683
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: what are you guys doing. I'll tell you what they're doing.

684
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: They're just solid. Are they gonna win nine games? No?

685
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: Are they gonna win six and just be a pain

686
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: in people's sides all year long. Yes they are. Why

687
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: because this guy can coach. This guy the irony is

688
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: he is exactly what Bill O'Brien was coming out of

689
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: Penn State like eight years ago or seven years ago

690
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: or whatever it is now, Like Matt Rule is a

691
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: culture builder because he's not calling the offense, you're not

692
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: calling the defense. I don't even know what he does.

693
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: You know, people like him and his team plays hard

694
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: and they just beat the ship out of the Cardinals

695
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. They shoved around the charge that the

696
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: score was close. I'll promise you I watched the game.

697
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: It wasn't uh panters, but might be good. Here's what

698
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: else I know. Falcons stink right. Uh, Maddie ICE's arm

699
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: is melted. It's Maddie Uh no ice in the cup

700
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: right now. It's just it's just you know when your cocktail,

701
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: your ice all melts and you just have a cocktail,

702
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: which just like maybe a little floater of ice. That's

703
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: what Maddie Ice is right now. And I like mighty Ice.

704
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed watching this career, but it feels over his

705
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: arm strength the other night at Green Bay looks like

706
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: a peace shooter. I just like the Panthers to go

707
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: in there and beat him. Now, the other games on

708
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 1: the slate, I didn't feel great about the Chiefs. Uh.

709
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are so freaking good, but I can't expect

710
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs to even take the races seriously. So if

711
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: you told me that's kind of close, even though the

712
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: games haven't been that close because it's twelve points spread,

713
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: tempted to take that cars King of like touchdowns that

714
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: don't matter late in game. I can see them being

715
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: down like twenty, him throwing a late touchdown, them getting

716
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: like a two point conversion. It's a twelve point game,

717
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: but it was never a twelve point game. I'm just

718
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: not betting on that. I also think a lot has

719
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: been going on with the Chiefs and the games, and

720
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: they don't know when they're gonna play, and you know,

721
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: I just don't see. I know Andy does, but the players,

722
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: how seriously take the Raiders. I wouldn't blame him. The

723
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: Raiders are terrible. I'm gonna go college and there's some

724
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: good college games this weekend. The Red Riol of rivalry,

725
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: though Oklahoma is not good. Spencer Rattler stinks Texas. I

726
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: don't know if he's you know, they're any good. Clearly

727
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: they just lost TCU uh Tennessee, Georgia. Interested to watch that.

728
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: Jeremy Pruitt has Tennessee kind of good for the first

729
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: time and if it feels like twenty years But to me,

730
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: the game and I've already put a little cash on

731
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: my other podcast. We bet two hundred fty dollars every

732
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: week on a game. I'm going Bama and I think

733
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: they've been the best team in the country so far,

734
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: just you know, watching a little college football here and there.

735
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: They got star players everywhere. In offense, they have a

736
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: good defense that kind of has got their mojo back.

737
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: Nick Saban personally hates Lane Kiffen. Remember when he would

738
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: not let him coach the national championship. He said, pack

739
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: your ship and leaf. You're not allowed to be here.

740
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: Lanes like what He's like, you gotta go, You're not

741
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: allowed here playing all miss who actually has a good offense.

742
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: But I was at my mom's house watching Alabama last

743
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: week against Texas A and M. TEXTA and M is good.

744
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: Texas A and M is a legitimate program. They destroyed them,

745
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: d destroyed them. So I like Alabama minus twenty three.

746
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: Now there is a hurricane coming in, so you know,

747
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: get a little nervous if it rains field, but I

748
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: think they're gonna move it back maybe avoid the rain.

749
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: You guys in the South have a better feel for that.

750
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know if a hurricane even phases my

751
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: thought process. I like Bama to win, uh to win

752
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: pretty big. Okay, let's do what we do this every week.

753
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: The Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff is um is

754
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: that thing we like to call the Instagram handle and

755
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: we will read your questions here. So it's people show

756
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: at John Middalkoff Instagram, slide up in those d m

757
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: s and uh and interact. It's nice seeing someone in

758
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: the media that's pro business and pro NFL instead of

759
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: the usual garbage we here out there in the airways.

760
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It's crazy that like, being pro business

761
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: on social media isn't cool, Like, who the funk are

762
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: these people? Like? Yeah, I root for my community to

763
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: uh be able to open their businesses and and attempt

764
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: to do just like live, you know, and just attempt

765
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: to have their employees come in and do business. They'll

766
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: they'll follow the rules that that became controversial. Somehow my

767
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: state thinks it's like the middle of April. We're still

768
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: locked down. Stanford can't even practice in Santa Clara County.

769
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: They have to go five minutes down the road to

770
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: another county to practice. These arbitrary rules make no sense.

771
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: People are just trying to live. It's October eight, what

772
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: are we doing? But I don't want to get worked

773
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: up about Corona. Here's my question. See, I'm not a hothead,

774
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm not billy. Oh when will people acknowledge that Kyl

775
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: Shanahan is a flawed, borderline overrated head coach who abandons

776
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: the run game too early or abandons it in bizarre

777
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 1: times at games. For all the love his scheme gets,

778
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: he constantly asked his quarterback to throw too much. He

779
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: got the Falcons and Super Bowl by not running the ball.

780
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: He gost the forty Super Bowl the same way last year.

781
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: If he checked the data, the Niners had the least

782
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: carries in a Super Bowl era for a team getting

783
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: that many yards per carry. And then last night, So

784
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: this is a couple of days ago text the Eagles

785
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: against the Eagles when he asked his backup quarterback to

786
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: throw the ball forty five times games by only calling

787
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: twenty run place. This keeps happening under Shanahan. Will he

788
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: ever correct this? Well, here's my take, and I'll go

789
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: back to the Falcons. He's not the head coach. The

790
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: head coach. It's on dan Quinn to run the ball.

791
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannahan's job as the offensive coordinator is to score points.

792
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: So now listen. I mean we can nit pick that,

793
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: but like, that's on dan Quinn. And as we see,

794
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: he's a terror. He's a garbage head coach. Nice guy,

795
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: bald guy. Not really. I don't like associated with that

796
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: level ball guy because I don't think he's I mean,

797
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: his time being a head coach is done. But I

798
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: don't put that necessarily on Kyle. The Super Bowl, yeah,

799
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess he could. I'd have to go

800
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: back and watch it again. I mean, I can barely

801
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: remember like three months ago, let alone early February. I

802
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: didn't put that game necessarily on Kyle Shanahan. I put

803
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: it on the interior offensive line. They started getting worked,

804
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: you know. I I just think Mahomes beat him. I

805
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: mean they were a third and fifteen away from winning

806
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and Mahomes and Andy pulled out wasp

807
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: like I I think if you got Andy R. Belichick

808
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: on the line said, what do you think of Kyle Shanahan.

809
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: I think they ring sing his praises like you know

810
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: the Mullins game. I'm with you, but he had just

811
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: thrown for three yards. I I think it just turns

812
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: out his quarterback to shift the bed and against the Eagles,

813
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: their first and second stream running backs are out. Jerick

814
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: McKinnon is not that good of a player at this point.

815
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: He can't hunt. So you're playing with backup running backs.

816
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Just keep slamming them into

817
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: the Eagles? Now. I guess the Eagles defensive line watching

818
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: that game back the other night, was was fucking dominant.

819
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean they have three or four guys Hargrave, Fletcher Cox,

820
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham and Barnett were just kicking the Niners ass

821
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: up front. But you know, I don't know, It's just

822
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: it's a tough call. I think Kyle was fantastic. I

823
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: just do uh could he improve on stuff? For sure?

824
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: You know, I think he'll be fine. Given Mike mcglinchey's

825
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: underwhelming performance. Do you think it's a product of the

826
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: lack of cohesion with the old line or just him

827
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: not being a great player. With that being said, do

828
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: you think the Niners will pick up his fifth year

829
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: option since they have needs in the next few years

830
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: at corner, interioral line and the fact they spent such

831
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: a high pick on him. I think it's a problem

832
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: right now. Mike McGlinchey. I was texting with a buddy

833
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: the other day. They drafted him ninth overall. He's like, guy,

834
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: McGlinchey looks awful this year, and like, yeah, he looks terrible.

835
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: The problem in the NFL when you use a really

836
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: high pick on a position like a tackle or a corner,

837
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: you want the guy to be such a good player,

838
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: you know, even if he's not gonna become an All

839
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: Pro or whatever. You just wanted to be like a

840
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: tenuere starter. And right now McGlinchey is a liability for

841
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: the for the forty Niners because there's so many good

842
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: pass rushers in the NFL that he can't block the

843
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: really good pass us Right now, they're too quick. McGlinchey

844
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: looks stiff. Part of being a good tackle is you

845
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: gotta be pretty athletic. If you're not really athletic. You

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Speaker 1: have to be a great technician, right Like, to me,

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Speaker 1: the best right tackle healthy is probably is Lane with

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. Mutual Schwartz with the Chiefs. They're different. You know,

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Speaker 1: Lane's probably a much better athlete. Schwartz is is just

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Speaker 1: a great technician. A Lane is too, but Lane's probably

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Speaker 1: I mean, Lane was the number four old world pick

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Speaker 1: in the draft for a reason. But Mitchell's is really smart. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's not gonna be as athletic as these

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Speaker 1: guy but he can just use his body. He's just

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Speaker 1: a He's just a very very smart player. And I

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Speaker 1: think McGlinchey in theory should be a really smart player.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes he gets over extended, he's in bad positions.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. Pick up the fifth

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Speaker 1: year option. I mean, based on the first four games

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Speaker 1: of the season, you'd say no, no way, But I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Long season, we'll see. I mean, Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 1: loves him, he was team captain, but he's not playing

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Speaker 1: very good. I recall this offseason you said in an

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Speaker 1: earlier podcast that you'd be doing a ranking of the

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Speaker 1: power four teams in each conference. Don't think I've heard

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Speaker 1: that pod during the season, yet is that still a go? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's do that after this weekend. I'll think about doing

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Speaker 1: that next week. Top four teams each conference after they've

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Speaker 1: all played five games. Let's do that. I think. I

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Speaker 1: think it's clear who the number one team is overall, though,

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Speaker 1: win or loose. The Kansas City Chiefs a long question

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Speaker 1: three year list. Love the pod in your work? Fair

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Speaker 1: to say Baker's career accomplishments have been underappreciated thus far

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Speaker 1: in his career. Not saying he's elite by any means,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like many overlooked the ship storm he's

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Speaker 1: endured since entering the league. Drafted at the time by

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Speaker 1: the worst most dysfunctional franchise of sports, True began his

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Speaker 1: uh begin with two of the worst NFL head coaches

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Speaker 1: modern history, and Hugh Jackson Freddy Kitchens. True is on

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Speaker 1: his fourth head coach and third oh seeing his short career.

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Speaker 1: Despite this, he's already channeled as an indie Andy Do

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Speaker 1: phrase and crawled to a top eleven QBR in the

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Speaker 1: NFL today. That's where I pumped the brakes a little

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Speaker 1: bit further. His career stats, uh lad. The two thousand

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Speaker 1: eighteen quarterback class in all major categories. Baker still needs

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Speaker 1: to improve, but the tape shows a playmaker making some

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Speaker 1: big time throws this year in obvious tough passing situations

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Speaker 1: pretty consistently. Fair to say he's been undervalued a little

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Speaker 1: bit this year and how under the radar stefancy has been.

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Speaker 1: Dude can tile it up? Yeah, I'll be honest. I

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Speaker 1: think Bake he looks like what he's what he's been

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Speaker 1: playing like a game manager and there's nothing wrong with

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Speaker 1: that statement. Like the Cleveland Browns will go to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs if he is a game manager. Throw for a

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two yards a game, throw a couple

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Speaker 1: of touchdowns, and hand the ball off play action. Like

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Speaker 1: that's to me, what's what Baker Mayfield is what Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousin was the last couple of years with Minnesota, put

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Speaker 1: up good stats, didn't have to do that much. Uh

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Speaker 1: can't make something out of nothing because he can't. He's

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Speaker 1: not a good enough athlete. But he plays within the system.

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Speaker 1: They run the ball down your throat and you're gonna win.

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00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that. Is he like in

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Speaker 1: that called draft class? Like he can't hold Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: or Lamar Jackson's jock like he's not even in their

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Speaker 1: realm as a talent. He I would put him above

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Speaker 1: Baker Donald right now. But it's like, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what the judge. Donald. Obviously Rosen sucks, but Baker

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Speaker 1: is just playing within himself and that's all you can

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Speaker 1: ask right now. I just I think you just need

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Speaker 1: to get some stability. I give Stefanski a lot of credit.

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Speaker 1: He's doing a good job. He really is. I think

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Speaker 1: Stefanski is doing an excellent job. Big fan of the pod.

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Speaker 1: My question is Bill O'Brien out with the Texans, who

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Speaker 1: could you see being the next head coach that could

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Speaker 1: take the team to the next level give to Shawn

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Speaker 1: a fighting chance against guys like Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: What do you think the Texans will end up this season?

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be very good. I mean

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Speaker 1: I would if I had a guest right now they're

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Speaker 1: owing four, I'd go five and eleven. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: Cults are good, the Titans are good. I just think,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe they'll beat the Jags twice, but they

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Speaker 1: couldn't beat the Vikings. And the Vikings were win five

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Speaker 1: or six games. Uh. I would say a guy that

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Speaker 1: makes some sense is um would be Eric b Enemy.

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Speaker 1: I'd look at the offensive guys, Eric b Enemy, Arthur

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Speaker 1: Smiths with the Titans, Arthur Smith with the Titans, Brian

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Speaker 1: Dable with the Bills. I look at those guys. Maybe

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Speaker 1: if one of those three guys is interested, come coach

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Speaker 1: or quarterback. I saw Hal McNair said that he's gonna

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Speaker 1: hire a general manager first, and that guy's gonna hire

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Speaker 1: the co coach, so we'll see. I love the content

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Speaker 1: three now, I love this week's content. I'm Billy O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: But as a Dallas fan, you were saying you like

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Speaker 1: Wentz over Watson. I don't know about that one. My man,

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Speaker 1: Watson does a lot with terrible old lines. Both him

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Speaker 1: and Wentz have a lot of the same issues with

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Speaker 1: weapons and such, so I think Watson excels with a

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Speaker 1: lot less than Wentz. Well, Watson said dramatically better skill

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Speaker 1: guys for the last couple of years. I mean he

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Speaker 1: said Hopkins, Wentz said nobody. I mean Wents has a

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Speaker 1: couple of tight ends that always get hurt. I mean Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: The last two years have been I think he averaged

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Speaker 1: like a hundred and seven catches, so this year they

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Speaker 1: both have been bad. I would just take the more

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Speaker 1: talented guy, if all things are equal, if they're independent

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Speaker 1: of each other. Yeah, Watson has played better than Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying that Wentz has played better

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Speaker 1: than Watson. I'm just saying, if all things are equal

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Speaker 1: and I get just to build my own team, I

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Speaker 1: would take Carson Wentz. And I'm not saying that Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson is the wrong pick. I would just take Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: And again, I I'm not unlike like some people that

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Speaker 1: are just like hell bent on holding onto a player

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Speaker 1: once they have an opinion, I'm open to pivot off

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Speaker 1: that maybe I'm wrong. I'm still holding out hope, but

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Speaker 1: I'll be the first to admit that maybe a wrong

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Speaker 1: take my age poorly, and if it does, I'll pivot.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not getting rid of I'm not getting rid

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Speaker 1: of that. Well, let's just end it on that Appreciate

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Speaker 1: Again Three and Out podcast. Go subscribe, Go subscribe, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening, Thanks for shooting me your d m s.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. Enjoy the football. We got good Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You know I look a little bit of an average

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Speaker 1: Sunday Um, Sunday night, I don't. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: who's playing Sundnight football, Monday night football, Saints Chargers. I

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Speaker 1: know that. Let see who's playing the Sunday night game,

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Speaker 1: Viking Seattle. Yeah, that's not good. I doesn't do that

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Speaker 1: much for me. Again, appreciate it. Audios, god speed, see

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Speaker 1: you guys next week.