Speaker 1: It is Monday Victory Monday October. Second, this is Jaguars
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Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour from London, presented by Jet
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Speaker 3: In the first hour, we are at the Pavilion End
Speaker 3: Pub on Watling Street, two blocks from Saint Paul's Cathedral.
Speaker 3: JP Shadwick with Tony Boselli no Pete Prisco. This week
Speaker 3: it could be the best happy hour in the history
Speaker 3: of happy hours.
Speaker 4: Jeff Lagman is in.
Speaker 3: That's another reason why it could be one of the
Speaker 3: best happy hours of all time.
Speaker 4: And I mean it's a combination of two things JP.
Speaker 5: Yes, One, I don't have to correct Prisco with his
Speaker 5: bad takes continuously throughout the show. And second, we have
Speaker 5: not just one football expert yours truly, but we got
Speaker 5: two because my partner in the booth, Logs has joining us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, huge Hue, thanks for coming in Logs sure. And
Speaker 2: a nice thing is is that you guys don't have
Speaker 2: to use that build of blocks underneath it.
Speaker 4: Right, you know, sitting on phone books. That's what he does.
Speaker 4: Oh Pete, we love you.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 5: Listen, it's just too easy to take shots, so we're
Speaker 5: gonna continue to do it.
Speaker 4: But we still love it.
Speaker 3: We got two hours of shots to take from somebody
Speaker 3: who's not here, yes, and that's okay easy.
Speaker 4: We can definitely do that.
Speaker 3: We're on ten ten XL ninety two point five FM
Speaker 3: and Jacksonville Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube recapping Jaguars twenty
Speaker 3: three Falcon seven at Wembley under the Arch yesterday. Back
Speaker 3: to basics on offense and a strong defensive effort, three
Speaker 3: takeaways for the Jaguars and the first winning Wembley for
Speaker 3: the Jackson's twenty seventeen, and a lot to cover here.
Speaker 3: Coming off that rough game last week. All three faces
Speaker 3: contributed to that loss. Well, they got back on track
Speaker 3: and let's start.
Speaker 4: With the offense.
Speaker 3: It just felt like, hey, let's get it to Ingram,
Speaker 3: let's get it to Christian Kirk and if Ridley's opened
Speaker 3: down the field. Sure, Trevor used his legs some and
Speaker 3: it felt just a little more manageable on offense.
Speaker 5: Back to basics. The guys that you trust at the
Speaker 5: wide receiver and let's let's take a step back. I mean,
Speaker 5: look at the overall thing.
Speaker 2: The goal was to win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, at the end of the day, I mean after
Speaker 4: that game in.
Speaker 5: Jacksonvilleans the Texans, you had to find a way to
Speaker 5: win a game. You know, back to back losses, a
Speaker 5: lot of bad, negative feelings. I don't think it was
Speaker 5: probably a fun week at work. Jeff knows what like
Speaker 5: after a loss like that. So you had to find
Speaker 5: a way to win. And I think somebody I was
Speaker 5: on the field before the game and one of the
Speaker 5: staff members said it best to me.
Speaker 4: He's like, I don't care if we win by one point.
Speaker 4: You just have to get the taste of.
Speaker 2: Losing out of your mouth. Now.
Speaker 5: Was it great? No, I thought the defense was great.
Speaker 5: I think special teams were solid, not asked to do
Speaker 5: a lot offensively. This is four weeks in a row though,
Speaker 5: we're I'm not sure what our identity is, still clunky,
Speaker 5: trying to figure things out. But at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, it's uh and Jeff, it's better to figure
Speaker 5: those things out after a win than after a loss.
Speaker 2: Well, an offense what sixteen points, I mean, because you
Speaker 2: can't count pick six, the interception by Darius Williams, and.
Speaker 5: Well in one of those, in three of those who
Speaker 5: are point blank range, Yeah, where you had a.
Speaker 2: Field goal wearing opportunity, you took the ball over. And
Speaker 2: the good thing is, though, is that you got to win.
Speaker 2: And most importantly, you started I don't want to say fast,
Speaker 2: but you started without any mistakes. And I think that
Speaker 2: that allowed them to build some positive momentum in that
Speaker 2: ball game, and the defense got back on track in
Speaker 2: a big way. And it helps that you're facing an
Speaker 2: offense and the Falcons that doesn't have a lot of
Speaker 2: great speed. They've got a great back, but an inexperienced quarterback.
Speaker 2: And uh And I thought the Jaguars did did a
Speaker 2: wonderful job on defense, but you know, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: As good as they did on defense, they still left
Speaker 2: some plays out there, and some of the performances on
Speaker 2: defense weren't where you'd want to have them, you know. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going to have a game where
Speaker 2: you win and then you have all these coachable areas
Speaker 2: and coachable points, I think you've got a lot of
Speaker 2: coachable points, both for the offense and for the defense
Speaker 2: and for special teams.
Speaker 4: It was interesting, guys.
Speaker 5: I was on you know, I do my Monday morning
Speaker 5: breakfast with the Sally.
Speaker 3: I've heard of this, Yes, it's.
Speaker 5: It's a big deal. And and the question from Dan
Speaker 5: and Jeff was today is like, who are we Like
Speaker 5: are we a bad team? And we all like we're
Speaker 5: not a bad team. Are we a good team though?
Speaker 5: Or a great team? Are we in the upper echelong
Speaker 5: of the AFC like we thought we were coming into
Speaker 5: the season. I don't think so, you know, but at
Speaker 5: first quarter of the season two and two, but we're
Speaker 5: still in this to Just's point, like we're still trying
Speaker 5: to figure out exactly what's our identity, you know, who
Speaker 5: can we trust as far as showing up week in
Speaker 5: and week out. The defense, for the most part, has
Speaker 5: had three positive games out of the four. Special teams
Speaker 5: has had three positive out of the four. Offense still
Speaker 5: trying to figure out what we are and so it's
Speaker 5: an interesting place we find ourselves in. And I think
Speaker 5: a lot is coming up to this game this week
Speaker 5: against the Buffalo Bills. Who is who are one of
Speaker 5: the elite teams in the AFC. They're one of the
Speaker 5: teams everyone thinks has a chance to represent the AFC
Speaker 5: in the super Bowl, you know, and everything else, and
Speaker 5: so this is a big matchup this week, and taught them,
Speaker 5: uh and see how kind.
Speaker 4: Of see where we stand? Oh what'd you call it?
Speaker 2: Tought theam?
Speaker 4: That's not wrong, that's not right? What is it? Totenham Tottenham?
Speaker 2: Aith?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean what are we doing to them?
Speaker 4: No? Tottenham?
Speaker 2: Tottenham, Tottenham? Thank you? Right?
Speaker 4: Tottenham there of course? Yes, okay, tought him coach. We
Speaker 4: got it in seven minutes into the show.
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone really cares whether it's Tottenham.
Speaker 4: To the British people here care, yes, yes, yes, fair.
Speaker 5: I mean I love our UK friends here, but they
Speaker 5: can't say Jaguar, that's fair.
Speaker 4: And so just because I can't say Tom, does it
Speaker 4: really match? It's a good point. What's more important? Jaguar
Speaker 4: or Toham?
Speaker 2: Now who's better at Saint Jaguars? Was it Gus Bradley
Speaker 2: or British thing? The British people by far discuss has
Speaker 2: no excuse. I just got a text from Pete. He
Speaker 2: was He just said something about you, Tony.
Speaker 4: Oh shocking what I said?
Speaker 2: You said you need to learn how to pronounce top
Speaker 2: good idea.
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Speaker 2: Glad you're with us.
Speaker 3: We are at the Pavilion Inn pub on Watling Street
Speaker 3: in central London, just a couple of blocks away from Saint.
Speaker 2: Paul's Cathe's with the walk up's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Came up out of the underground and you come up
Speaker 3: and there's the dome right down the one lane street
Speaker 3: right out in front of this place.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's great. This is a cool place coming up here.
Speaker 5: There's so many cool places in Lining though, and the
Speaker 5: pubs are some of the coolest places anything.
Speaker 3: Are you all drinking milkshakes? By the way, that's a
Speaker 3: little water, just like it looks like a milkshake. That
Speaker 3: is a nice cold beer.
Speaker 2: Oh, here's the beauty of doing the show here right
Speaker 2: it's trains and automobiles that we don't drive. I can
Speaker 2: have all the beers I want. This is Victory Monday.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm drinking minds full of water.
Speaker 3: He's staying hydrated. Hydration, audation, the logs does not matter.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie matter.
Speaker 2: I got I got water on the outside of my
Speaker 2: frosty mug Frosty.
Speaker 3: I guess all right, so let's let's touch a little
Speaker 3: more in this defense. And well, you talked about next week,
Speaker 3: I mean that Bill's offense. I mean Josh Allen for
Speaker 3: the Bills put up a perfect passer rating yesterday and
Speaker 3: was incredible five total touchdown. That's the next test ahead
Speaker 3: is this. Well, they were pretty good against Kansas City
Speaker 3: as well. You know this Jack's defense was So how
Speaker 3: do they match up just initially in your mind against Buffalo?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean this is the best offense though we'll
Speaker 5: have faced this there. Buffalo Bills are better than the
Speaker 5: Chiefs on offense because the.
Speaker 2: Chiefs right now, right now, because the.
Speaker 4: Chiefs take away Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5: You look at this offense for the Chiefs that we face,
Speaker 5: they have zero They have no speed on the outside players.
Speaker 5: Travis Kelcey was a shell of himself when he played
Speaker 5: us because he's come back after the knee injury.
Speaker 4: Still score a touchdown.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying, but it wasn't full Travis kelce
Speaker 5: An offensive line that we.
Speaker 2: Didn't know about Taylor. Taylor was so changes everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, interior of the offensive line, which a lot of.
Speaker 2: People in Jacksonville disappointed that they did make it a
Speaker 2: little bit sooner the announcement wise than that week.
Speaker 4: I don't care, Taylor and Jackson. I thought you were
Speaker 4: a swiftie.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even name one song she sings. My daughter, Okay,
Speaker 2: is very was asking me the other day, when did
Speaker 2: we play Kansas City again?
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Mike, my daughters are smart enough not to
Speaker 5: ask me those questions because I literally could not tell
Speaker 5: you one song she sings, and I don't care to
Speaker 5: know and could care.
Speaker 4: Less who Travis Kelcey or anyone else's Dating.
Speaker 5: Back to the Chiefs Chiefs, The Chiefs have a good
Speaker 5: interior line tackles. Okay, the Bills are talented at the back,
Speaker 5: talented at the quarterback, talent, really talented at the receiving position,
Speaker 5: and have a solid offensive line.
Speaker 4: So this will be the biggest test for.
Speaker 2: Our defense because they have Stefan Diggs and Gabriel Davis.
Speaker 5: They have speed outside and so they're gonna have to
Speaker 5: play their best. But the bigger test, in my mind,
Speaker 5: this is the best defense that we will face so far,
Speaker 5: and that's for an offense who has struggled a little
Speaker 5: bit finding a rhythm. This spills defense. You know, Leslie
Speaker 5: Frasier is not there anymore. Sean mcdermy is taking over.
Speaker 5: They are one of the top as far as statistics,
Speaker 5: statistically in the NFL. They're aggressive, they get after the quarterback,
Speaker 5: they're good against the run. They shut down one of
Speaker 5: the best offenses in the NFL in Miami this past Sunday.
Speaker 5: And so this right here, Jeff, we're gonna find out
Speaker 5: kind of where we are in the pecking order.
Speaker 2: As far as the sea and it's a tough matchup.
Speaker 2: You know, the Buffalo Bills offense is dynamic throwing the ball.
Speaker 2: They have a mobile quarterback. We haven't done well in
Speaker 2: the past with that. They're not committed to the running game.
Speaker 2: That's not what they do best. We match up the
Speaker 2: best with a team like the Atlanta Falcons. Okay, because
Speaker 2: I know that we got some sacks yesterday, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think that we can consistently apply
Speaker 2: pressure to opposing quarterbacks the way we'd like. I think
Speaker 2: that's still a little bit lacking. And as Tony said,
Speaker 2: this Buffalo defense is for real. Uh. They've got players
Speaker 2: on all three levels and it's gonna be a huge test,
Speaker 2: and it'll be interesting to see kind of how the
Speaker 2: fan base is gonna be at Tottenham too as well.
Speaker 2: You know, it's what the Jaguars got, you know, kind
Speaker 2: of an established fan base over here. Buffalo Bills, I'm
Speaker 2: sure the the Buffalo Bills, what do they call them,
Speaker 2: the Bill's Mafia.
Speaker 4: They're gonna travel.
Speaker 3: They travel here, I guarante they did last time we
Speaker 3: played them here.
Speaker 4: I guarantee you they'll travel.
Speaker 3: I'll be interesting. I'd rather get them as a Totenham
Speaker 3: Hosan Orchard Park.
Speaker 4: Well, that's the big thing.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is an advantage to jackson should be
Speaker 5: to us, because the where would you rather play the
Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills at HUP in Buffalo? Well, not allowed in Jacksonville.
Speaker 5: That's not on the that's not in the Bengo card.
Speaker 5: The Bengo card has London or Buffalo. I will choose
Speaker 5: London because we have an advantage.
Speaker 2: We're here all week.
Speaker 5: Guys are gonna be acclimated, acclimated, They're gonna be used
Speaker 5: to the every the circumstances, the surrounding areas, time change,
Speaker 5: everything else. Buffalo was coming after a tough game against
Speaker 5: Miami you're gonna have to fly over and get used
Speaker 5: to the time zones and everything else. So we should
Speaker 5: have an advantage here. Noise should not be an issue.
Speaker 5: Weather's not going to be an issue. So I'm glad
Speaker 5: we're playing them here.
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes in that neutral environment, though the noise
Speaker 3: can be at different times. And yeah, but they have
Speaker 3: to deal with the same thing, but not a true
Speaker 3: road game crowd noises.
Speaker 5: But j ap they had to deal with the same
Speaker 5: thing that. I mean, Buffalo's gonna have the same noise
Speaker 5: issues that we are. If you're in Buffalo, can't hear yourself,
Speaker 5: think you're at the opponent.
Speaker 2: No, And if this game were in December, it'd be
Speaker 2: oh good, you got that right now. But Buffalo, Look,
Speaker 2: Buffalo is a hard place to play. It is, and
Speaker 2: I played a bunch there back during the Jim Kelly
Speaker 2: k Gun days when they were rolling four Super Bowls.
Speaker 2: Marv Leavy, Bruce Smith and that place. Absolutely, you know.
Speaker 5: The only time it's easy to play in Buffalo, it's
Speaker 5: for the ninety six Jags.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's about it.
Speaker 4: Still resting on that one.
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, come on, the one that got you the
Speaker 5: gold jacket. So there's not much, Jeff, but I can
Speaker 5: do anymore. So the one thing we can do is
Speaker 5: reminisced of the old days and make it better than
Speaker 5: and make ourselves better.
Speaker 4: Than we actually were.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in our days at Polk County High we were
Speaker 2: really good. Good. Hey, plenty ahead. We're just getting started.
Speaker 3: We've got two hours of this tonight here in London
Speaker 3: from the Pavilion Inn Pub on Watling Street. We'll be
Speaker 3: here Wednesday for Huddle Up as well five o'clock London time,
Speaker 3: and then Thursday for Happy Hour in the Doug Peterson Show,
Speaker 3: also five o'clock London time, if you want to come
Speaker 3: down and join us in the basement.
Speaker 2: Should be a fun week ahead. We've got plenty to come.
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Speaker 3: offensive performance yesterday under the arch at Wimbley. When we
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Speaker 3: Welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Victory Monday,
Speaker 3: October second, and we are at the Pavilion Inn Pub
Speaker 3: on Ling Street, Central London.
Speaker 1: J P.
Speaker 3: Shadwick, Tony Vosseli, Jeff Loghman in for Pete Prisco and
Speaker 3: the Jaguars came away with a win at Wimbley yesterday
Speaker 3: twenty three seven. The final score. I've upgraded to beavertown
Speaker 3: neck oil ipa. I've gone wow on the desk. You
Speaker 3: guys are enjoying your milkshakes over there, milkshake.
Speaker 4: You got food coming, Tony? What are you looking? I'm
Speaker 4: thinking about it. This is a I like this place.
Speaker 5: I could hang out here quite a bit if I
Speaker 5: lived here. But yeah, I'm looking at Maybe I got
Speaker 5: some good food here. The wings is really what I want.
Speaker 3: We need to see you eat wings on Jaguars dot
Speaker 3: Com might not.
Speaker 2: Be the best look for me. Okay, so maybe some hummus.
Speaker 2: We got a little chicken.
Speaker 5: You're on a diet, I am, but I mean this
Speaker 5: is dinner. It's dinner time, right. I heard cheese bread
Speaker 5: back behind me. That's really good.
Speaker 3: That's good for you. Everything is located, it's gluten free,
Speaker 3: preservatives conserve.
Speaker 2: They don't use preserved. Here's what's so great about it.
Speaker 5: But I where I'm leaning really heavily towards the sausage board. Okay, well,
Speaker 5: sausage and cheese, maybe some crackers.
Speaker 3: We'll see what appears at the desks as the show
Speaker 3: moves along here. All right, So the Shags offense yesterday,
Speaker 3: we touched on it briefly, and we're going to get
Speaker 3: into the offensive line and keeping it real a little
Speaker 3: bit late. So in the future of that group of possibilities, right, interesting,
Speaker 3: that's a little bit later. But in general, how did
Speaker 3: the group up front play yesterday? Shatley was in there
Speaker 3: left guard for the first time this season?
Speaker 2: At least?
Speaker 3: Did that change anything for you? Logs Wot'll start with
Speaker 3: you and then bring back the tone.
Speaker 4: You know, what did they look like up front?
Speaker 2: Eh? That's it? Scale of one to ten, that's probably
Speaker 2: around a five. I would say, I mean acceptable, winnable,
Speaker 2: good enough. I actually disagree with you.
Speaker 5: How I mean, when you were Jeff, twenty four rushes
Speaker 5: for sixty three yards by your backs, is that winning
Speaker 5: the bond?
Speaker 2: I mean you won? And I thought the one thing
Speaker 2: that they did do was protect the quarterback. I agree with,
Speaker 2: and that's what I was concerned about the most.
Speaker 3: And so because that is a veteran front seven grow
Speaker 3: up for the Falcon, and.
Speaker 2: I think Shatley helped. From the standpoint of in the
Speaker 2: couple previous games, Ben Bartch was getting beat to the
Speaker 2: point that there was immediate pressure in Trevor's face. And
Speaker 2: the one thing about Shatley is that, look, he's not
Speaker 2: a guy that's gonna get great movement in the running game,
Speaker 2: but he doesn't get smoked. Okay, And I'm not saying
Speaker 2: the bars get smoked. I'm saying he got beat a
Speaker 2: couple of times earlier in the early in the season
Speaker 2: so far, and Shatley's been a guy that's been the
Speaker 2: pendable as far as he's going to slow a guy down,
Speaker 2: He's not going to miss assignments. He's always going to
Speaker 2: be where he needs to be. Now, look, there are
Speaker 2: times that he can't match up physically with some of
Speaker 2: those big guys that play down in the trenches. But
Speaker 2: I thought it was better there and I think Walker
Speaker 2: Little continued to play well. I still think there's still
Speaker 2: they got to be There's got to be improvement at
Speaker 2: the center position, in the right guard position, in the
Speaker 2: right tackle position.
Speaker 5: Tony was SELLI I thought the run game was bad
Speaker 5: I think I think it was bad. They finished twenty
Speaker 5: four for sixty four. Takeaway Travor's yards because that.
Speaker 4: Those don't count.
Speaker 2: He's not a running back.
Speaker 4: Yeah right.
Speaker 5: I think it was twenty four for sixty three, so
Speaker 5: that's just over two yards of carry.
Speaker 4: That's correct.
Speaker 5: And watching the tape, I didn't watch the whole thing,
Speaker 5: so because I had some connectivity issues, I watched some
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were just busy doing one I
Speaker 2: was not.
Speaker 5: I was actually real technical issues. I did not think
Speaker 5: there was anywhere for Travis to go. Now Jeff can
Speaker 5: comment on the rest of the game that I missing second,
Speaker 5: but I never watching it live. I never felt for
Speaker 5: a second that there were holes that Travis is missing.
Speaker 5: The film confirmed that. I thought they were better in protection.
Speaker 5: I thought Trevor had time to operate do things. Trevor
Speaker 5: was great with his legs when there was no one open,
Speaker 5: and so I thought the offensive line did better that.
Speaker 4: I agree with Jeff's assessment that Chatley is.
Speaker 5: More solid, not as big a risk for the immediate
Speaker 5: getting just beat at the line of scrimmage and nowhere.
Speaker 4: To go type of plays.
Speaker 5: But the team has to run the ball better and
Speaker 5: right now watching the tape. I don't think they're playing
Speaker 5: with great leverage.
Speaker 2: They don't get a lot of push. And here's the
Speaker 2: other thing. They had a lot of personnel groupings in
Speaker 2: this ball game that included Blake Cans at tight end extra.
Speaker 4: It didn't help.
Speaker 2: So and so now you're looking to get better push,
Speaker 2: right with six offensive line up and Tony's dead on.
Speaker 2: I mean, Can's got beat up a little bit.
Speaker 3: There was one play Kalays Campbell stood him up. There
Speaker 3: was a couple of those.
Speaker 4: There was two of those. JP missed one.
Speaker 5: I know you're focused on doing play by play yesterday
Speaker 5: for Westwood One, but you missed that one.
Speaker 4: I missed that one, but I saw one. That's all
Speaker 4: I needed to see.
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of people were like, oh wow,
Speaker 2: that was a great idea of putting Blake Hampsey and
Speaker 2: six offensive linemen.
Speaker 4: It didn't.
Speaker 2: It didn't add anything to them. It didn't It didn't
Speaker 2: help them, I don't think at all.
Speaker 5: I think the only thing it did for them is
Speaker 5: change the personnel grouping that the Falcons matched them with.
Speaker 5: Ye really, and so you probably get some personnel some
Speaker 5: things you like, and they tried to throw out of
Speaker 5: it to get one on one matchups outside, which I
Speaker 5: think is a good game plan. I like what Press
Speaker 5: was doing there. I think the biggest issue is we
Speaker 5: do not play with good leverage.
Speaker 2: A lot a lot of teachable No, it's teachable.
Speaker 5: I mean it's a lot of stuff out of the gun.
Speaker 5: We're not under center very much. I would like to
Speaker 5: see a center center more my opinion. I our offensive
Speaker 5: guards are in two points almost all the time. Get
Speaker 5: a three point, like, let's move. Some people like, let's
Speaker 5: go downhill, let's get off the ball, let's be physical,
Speaker 5: let's take it too. And I in the offensive design
Speaker 5: and kind of how we're calling plays and what we're
Speaker 5: doing now, and I understand a little bit what Press
Speaker 5: is trying to do. He's trying to play a little
Speaker 5: bit more horizontal because I don't think he fully trusts
Speaker 5: the offensive line in a straight drop back passing situation.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 5: I think what Jeff said Press would probably is in
Speaker 5: the back of his mind. Are we physical enough to
Speaker 5: displace people? Obviously, based on how we're calling the game. No,
Speaker 5: So a lot of it's horizontal quick passes outside, trying
Speaker 5: to get playmakers in space, horizontal in the run game
Speaker 5: to see if we can create a scene here or there.
Speaker 5: But I really I think we need to play more
Speaker 5: physical with better leverage up front, I think.
Speaker 4: And is it possible, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: No doubt About to give some credit to one guy
Speaker 2: in particular that played for the Lanta Falcons defense. And
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about Kalayas. Jesse Bates. Oh, he is
Speaker 2: a good players safety.
Speaker 3: He came flying in a bunch in that game. Oh my,
Speaker 3: he's a good player.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm talking that number three and going to
Speaker 2: the game, watching the film on him, You're sitting there going,
Speaker 2: you know, this guy's really good. And then he brought
Speaker 2: it to a whole different level in this ball game.
Speaker 2: I mean he was an impact in the running game,
Speaker 2: He was an impact in the passing game. Very impressive guy.
Speaker 3: Bates with eight total tackles, one tackle for loss, a
Speaker 3: quarterback hit, had a force fumble.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the heck of a.
Speaker 4: He had none officially, Oh I thought he had won
Speaker 4: at least it's.
Speaker 3: None in the book at Yeah, so he might not
Speaker 3: have got his true hand on it. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean that's they've got some guys on that defensive side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't have anything anybody that's impactful up front.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because Klayis is older. Yeah, I mean Grady, Grady's older.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's still pretty good.
Speaker 5: No, but I'm saying they're good players still, but they're
Speaker 5: not the disruptors that they once were.
Speaker 2: They're in spot. You know, Bud Dupries slowed down a bunch.
Speaker 2: They just don't have any impactful pass rushers or disruptive
Speaker 2: guys that are upfront that are consistent. Different though. I
Speaker 2: will tell you though, the other guy that impressed the
Speaker 2: heck out of me was a j Terrell. I mean,
Speaker 2: you want to talk about one of the more physical
Speaker 2: corners in the National Football League. He was very impressive
Speaker 2: and the Falcons were putting him on Ridley And it
Speaker 2: was interesting to watch the early part of that ball
Speaker 2: game because Calvin was open a couple times.
Speaker 4: But you could see that.
Speaker 2: You go back to the game against the Houston Texans
Speaker 2: at home, and Calvin had two drops. Calvin had a
Speaker 2: couple of false starts, and you could tell that Trevor
Speaker 2: didn't quite trust him early in this ball game, and
Speaker 2: so it took a little while for Trevor to warm
Speaker 2: up to the idea of throwing it to agent zero.
Speaker 2: And because he was opened a couple times now early
Speaker 2: in that ball.
Speaker 4: Game, why are we calling him agent zero now? Is
Speaker 4: that that was new to me? That's new to me. Also,
Speaker 4: are we calling him agent zero back here?
Speaker 2: Why not? The crowd likes it. Yeah, so we'll go
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 5: I would say this, and Jeff, you and I talked
Speaker 5: about it during the broadcast. I thought there was opportunities
Speaker 5: because I impressed did a good job of getting the
Speaker 5: front he wanted, the coverage he wanted in Calvin one
Speaker 5: on one with Ajterrell, and until the very end, Trevor
Speaker 5: did not trust a fifty to fifty ball with the
Speaker 5: one oh one coverage that he had.
Speaker 2: Set in the first half two minute drill where he
Speaker 2: could have.
Speaker 5: Taken and I think twice in the third quarter, there
Speaker 5: was opportunity two where he could have taken a shot
Speaker 5: to a fifty to fifty ball, and right now, Trevor's
Speaker 5: not for whatever reason he didn't take.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm not being critical of Trevor.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, for whatever reason, not speculating what the
Speaker 5: reason isn't Jeff could be right, could be Houston after
Speaker 5: that tough performance that Calvin had.
Speaker 4: But you get one on one with your number one receiver,
Speaker 4: take the chance.
Speaker 5: I think sometimes, I mean a few times a game,
Speaker 5: that's what you that's the matchup you want. While he's there,
Speaker 5: you have a number one guy could be because if
Speaker 5: you can scheme it up where that guy's one on
Speaker 5: one at their corner, you're gonna say, we're going I.
Speaker 2: Think this is a whole another learning process for Trevor two,
Speaker 2: because he's never had a number one guy at this level,
Speaker 2: and so he's still got to kind of learn, Okay,
Speaker 2: how much do I throw the ball his way and
Speaker 2: make it kind of make it his way versus letting
Speaker 2: it kind of come naturally his way. And so I
Speaker 2: think there's a balance. You know, he's a young quarterback
Speaker 2: and sometimes you just have to let the system dictate
Speaker 2: to where the ball goes. But then at other times
Speaker 2: you've got to understand that you've got a special talent
Speaker 2: and when you have somebody that's like that, like Calvin Ridley,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to put him in the same
Speaker 2: category as Justin Jefferson because Justin Jefferson is kind of
Speaker 2: at the top. But you know, when you've got a
Speaker 2: guy like that, sometimes you got to trust him and
Speaker 2: just like Trevor did late in the ball game when
Speaker 2: he got the pass interference call. But part of that
Speaker 2: trust is earned too, and I think that there's an
Speaker 2: evolution of process that needs to happen, and it's not
Speaker 2: only just Trevor, but it's Calvin as well, to show
Speaker 2: and prove to his teammates and the coaches that hey,
Speaker 2: I deserve to get the ball more than others in
Speaker 2: even when the system doesn't dictate that.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Pavilion End Pub in London after
Speaker 3: a Jaguars win in Week four. It's Jaguars Happy Hour,
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Speaker 4: Throughout the week.
Speaker 3: We'll be here Wednesday and Thursday as well. Huddle up
Speaker 3: Wednesday five o'clock London time, and then Thursday Happy Hour
Speaker 3: on the Doug Peterson Show. That's also a five o'clock
Speaker 3: London Time live to the crowd here. We'll air to
Speaker 3: back at four o'clock in Jacksonville on Thursday.
Speaker 4: Here at the Pavilion End, we're two.
Speaker 3: Blocks away from Saint Paul's Cathedral on Watling Street. Recapping
Speaker 3: the Jaguars win over the Falcons yesterday and Wembley and
Speaker 3: of course the Jaguars did actually flip around their schedule
Speaker 3: this week. The players officially had today off. I think
Speaker 3: they were all invited to the full of match tonight
Speaker 3: down at Craven Cottage. They'll be back to work Tuesday
Speaker 3: and then on the field Wednesday, Thursday, Friday ahead of
Speaker 3: the game at Spurs coming up on Sunday against the
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. All right, so Jaguars defense. We touched on
Speaker 3: that earlier logs and Josh Allen another three sack performance. Yes,
Speaker 3: it was a three sack performance week one, right, but
Speaker 3: a couple of those were out of bounds line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: Fine, where does this one in your mind rank? True?
Speaker 3: The sack fumble at the end, that's before we get hot.
Speaker 3: I got to get some playerity here. So we had
Speaker 3: three sacks week one, right?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I just said that three sacks.
Speaker 4: Yesterday.
Speaker 2: I also said that, didn't he have a sack in
Speaker 2: between the I thought.
Speaker 4: He had enough.
Speaker 2: You were saying that yesterday, But.
Speaker 4: No, he didn't have a tackle with the lion screws
Speaker 4: of a quarterback in there.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now I was wrong. He's got six for the year.
Speaker 5: I read that too. I'm not I swear in one
Speaker 5: of those rode with it in our broadcast. What you
Speaker 5: want to say he's got for it sounds great to me.
Speaker 3: Say whatever you want, Tony. I mean, you're in the
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. You can make up SATs now.
Speaker 4: I literally thought that for some reason, thank you very
Speaker 4: much clapping to that.
Speaker 5: I really thought, for some reason, I thought he had
Speaker 5: a sack in Uh. It gets the chiefs on my
Speaker 5: scrimmage homes.
Speaker 4: No, okay, no he did that.
Speaker 2: You know, look the sacks that he had.
Speaker 3: But answer the question now, pulling up the stats on
Speaker 3: the official NFL stats site, it's great week by week,
Speaker 3: And yeah, JP.
Speaker 4: I understand what the stats I say. I heard all
Speaker 4: day on ESPN he had six acts.
Speaker 2: I would love for him to have another side.
Speaker 4: I would too.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he would.
Speaker 4: How my brain missed it for some reason. I swore
Speaker 4: he had a sack in Kansas City, but he did not.
Speaker 2: He had been And to answer your question, JP, about
Speaker 2: the sacks, I would say that one of them right
Speaker 2: week one, they were all effort sacks and and those
Speaker 2: count and great effort. And I thought that those uh,
Speaker 2: that was a really great effort by Josh and great speed,
Speaker 2: great uh agility and chasing a quarterback down in Indianapolis
Speaker 2: that had great athletic ability. Now this pass game, the
Speaker 2: first one the quarterback ran into him, and that's okay.
Speaker 2: And then uh, the last one though was legit a
Speaker 2: great great rush against Matthews. You know, you got it.
Speaker 3: Who's a good offensive tackle, Tomahawk Chop you know about
Speaker 3: you know, one of the probably top half tackles in
Speaker 3: the league Matthews yep, and that was a great, great
Speaker 3: job and he had some really good rushes. I mean,
Speaker 3: but two out of those three, uh, you know, are
Speaker 3: the ones that you'd like to have when you're in
Speaker 3: a contract year. And because every time in JP at
Speaker 3: the end of the year, they don't a lot of
Speaker 3: times go back and look at him and sit there
Speaker 3: and go, you know, well, you know that one probably
Speaker 3: wasn't a great pass rush, but he got a sack.
Speaker 2: At the end of the year, they add up. Then
Speaker 2: they start adding up to a big number. That cash
Speaker 2: register is just going kotcheing kachin.
Speaker 5: I will say this about Josh Allen. I think he's
Speaker 5: playing very good football. I think he's playing as far
Speaker 5: as in the front seven, probably the most the best quality, assistent,
Speaker 5: good winning football out of that group.
Speaker 2: So he's the best of the front seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right now, I know.
Speaker 2: I think a Lucan's playing well too, Yes, no doubt
Speaker 2: about it. Yesterday did oh, he's been great. I think
Speaker 2: Cisco's playing well.
Speaker 5: Cisco had an excellent game yesterday, explin game. I thought
Speaker 5: Tyson had a good game yesterday too, solid, but not
Speaker 5: a lot of opportunities but solid.
Speaker 4: But our pass rush is still an issue.
Speaker 2: To be to be honest with you, you know, because
Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people would ask this question,
Speaker 2: how's Trayvon playing? Hey, you know what locks? How is
Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker playing?
Speaker 4: Good question? JP question.
Speaker 2: I didn't think he played very well yesterday?
Speaker 4: Why he had he had a sack?
Speaker 2: He did?
Speaker 3: I think the numbers don't lie in the year descri
Speaker 3: the play to me, they add up.
Speaker 5: To go ahead. I was being facetious and I would
Speaker 5: agree with your assessment. The sack he got was he
Speaker 5: fell into it where Ritters trying to run when he
Speaker 5: shouldn't have run there was no pressure and tried to
Speaker 5: escape and use his legs and get a first down.
Speaker 5: And Trayvon happened to be right there.
Speaker 3: And uh, it's good timing. I mean, you're in the
Speaker 3: right place at the right time. You can't fault him
Speaker 3: for that.
Speaker 5: Just so, just so you know, a defensiven should not
Speaker 5: be on the line of scrimmage on a passing situation.
Speaker 2: No, he got a good play though. On the uh
Speaker 2: when Trey Herndon pushed Drake London out of the back
Speaker 2: of the end zone, Trayvon had good pressure on that one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you remember at the beginning of the second half
Speaker 2: when all of a sudden the Falcons started getting the
Speaker 2: running back and running game rolling a little bit there
Speaker 2: with b Jon Robbins absolutely first drive. Yeah, of those
Speaker 2: plays where Bjon Robinson gets out, Trayvon's got to be better.
Speaker 2: I mean just you know, he's got he's got the
Speaker 2: opportunity to just just you know, figure it out, look
Speaker 2: at it and see what the play is and react
Speaker 2: in a good way, and you minimize those plays to
Speaker 2: no game. And he didn't make the plays.
Speaker 3: It was one of those that big field flipping run
Speaker 3: that Bejon had, Yeah, the one who kind of run
Speaker 3: left hole is right and go do they do?
Speaker 2: They faked his own one way and then he plants
Speaker 2: his foot and he ends up being a counter Basically,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a little counteraction and and Trayvon
Speaker 2: has got his outside arm free and all you have
Speaker 2: to do is just kind of see the play and
Speaker 2: then come up the field and make it. And he
Speaker 2: was late and late diagnosing it and then late to
Speaker 2: react and then just didn't have to speed once Bijon
Speaker 2: you know, got to run the outside on him.
Speaker 5: Well, I think what I continue to worry about it,
Speaker 5: and I do not want to take anything away from
Speaker 5: our defensive performance.
Speaker 4: I thought they did a great job, had three takeaways.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't want to take
Speaker 5: anything away. This is like not the day they gave
Speaker 5: up seven points. JP are making my point. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: just looking ahead. I mean, the Falcons have no quarterback.
Speaker 5: Let's just call it what it is. Yeah, he can't.
Speaker 2: Like we were.
Speaker 4: During a break in the first half when he became
Speaker 4: seventeen nothing. I looked at Jeff. I'm like, over, this
Speaker 4: game's over, I said.
Speaker 2: I said in the broadcast, I said, if they got
Speaker 2: a touchdown here, the game's over. And Tony, once we
Speaker 2: go to breaking, the games already over. I already said
Speaker 2: it when.
Speaker 5: It was seventeen nothing and we got the interception, and
Speaker 5: Jeff said on the air, and I didn't want to
Speaker 5: say it to Jin Says or anything, but in the break,
Speaker 5: I'm like, Desmond Ritter cannot bring this team back.
Speaker 4: They are not made to do it. Like he can't
Speaker 4: play from the pocket and start slicing and dison and
Speaker 4: they don't have the speed outside, no speed, and Kyle
Speaker 4: pitts is and all that. Jeff Dion's totally different.
Speaker 2: He's not playing very well.
Speaker 4: John Smith had a bunch of catches.
Speaker 5: Johnny Smith is better than Kyle Pittrick, and so we're
Speaker 5: dealing with it different animal this week. Josh Allen down.
Speaker 2: Seventeen can slice indicce you.
Speaker 5: Stefan Diggs is one of the best receivers in the NFL.
Speaker 5: They got talent all over the place in offense, and
Speaker 5: they score a lot of points.
Speaker 4: They have a great defense.
Speaker 5: But sticking on Buffalo's offense, our defense or Atlanta's offense,
Speaker 5: our defense, our pass rusher has to get better because
Speaker 5: the challenge we're gonna have this week. If you let
Speaker 5: Josh Allen sit back out back there.
Speaker 4: He will pick you apart.
Speaker 5: He said JP he had a perfect passer rating perfect
Speaker 5: perfect against a good Dolphin. A defense for the Dolphins
Speaker 5: has been pretty good this year.
Speaker 2: And so and'll challenge you with the scrambling a bill. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of two parts now.
Speaker 5: So Josh Allen has to have a huge week and dominate.
Speaker 5: But the rest of those guys, Trayvon's gotta play better
Speaker 5: rush in the passer otherwise, I mean Caldwell is gonna
Speaker 5: be forced by Caldole is gonna be forced to dial
Speaker 5: up a bunch of blitzes, and Jeff, I'll kind of
Speaker 5: hand this off to you because you're the defensive expert.
Speaker 5: What I worry about is if all of a sudden
Speaker 5: we start blitzing and try to play man. Because we
Speaker 5: played more man this week, because we weren't afraid of
Speaker 5: the speed. I don't think we match up in man
Speaker 5: coverage against the Bills very well.
Speaker 2: No, and that the Falcons reason we played man. They're
Speaker 2: best receivers. Drake London. We we matched up a couple
Speaker 2: of times Trey Herndon against him, and we know that
Speaker 2: Trey Herndon's not real fast, right, I mean, that's not
Speaker 2: his forte. He's a kind of a zone corner. We
Speaker 2: had full confidence having Trey Herndon against Drake London. You
Speaker 2: can't do that this week against the Buffalo Bills. It's
Speaker 2: just it's just not gonna work. I mean, it just
Speaker 2: got too much speed. And so to Tony's point, you're
Speaker 2: gonna be a little less hesitant to play man against
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, and so you've got to have more
Speaker 2: people in coverage that means less guys pass rushing, So
Speaker 2: that means you're gonna be rushing four win one on one,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be dropping seven. And you've got to
Speaker 2: win the one on once and you've got to and
Speaker 2: when you do pressure, you've got to be clean. And you,
Speaker 2: when I say clean, you have to make the quarterback
Speaker 2: throw sooner than he wants to. You have to accelerate
Speaker 2: the window. And that's something that right now as a whole,
Speaker 2: they haven't done consistently enough with their blitz or their
Speaker 2: zone Dog Zone Blitz package.
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Speaker 3: They don't, they don't really have them. Over again, Tony,
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Speaker 2: I have not.
Speaker 4: I have an F one fifty back in the garage
Speaker 4: at part of Edra, but no, I have not seen
Speaker 4: I haven't seen a pickup truckle I.
Speaker 2: Have it either, So I'm saying they don't have them lugs,
Speaker 2: Jeff wouldn't work out for now. They've got trucks. They've
Speaker 2: got trucks over here, but they look like vans with
Speaker 2: pickup beds.
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Speaker 2: Not seen an F one fifties.
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Speaker 6: Now think I think, I mean, it's hard to say
Speaker 6: if you're over it, but but I think they were
Speaker 6: much more relaxed and really the energy today was much
Speaker 6: better than last week. You know, you saw it on
Speaker 6: the sideline. You saw it with the with the guys,
Speaker 6: the demeanor, their play, all of that, and it's things
Speaker 6: that we talked about during the week and you know,
Speaker 6: it's it's it's about how we respond, and the guys
Speaker 6: responded extremely well today.
Speaker 3: That is Doug Peterson after the game at Wimbley yesterday
Speaker 3: at Jaguars win over the Atlanta Falcons and welcome back.
Speaker 4: It's Jaguars Happy.
Speaker 3: Hour from the Pavilion End in Central London on Watling Street,
Speaker 3: a couple of blocks away from Saint Paul's Cathedral. The
Speaker 3: Jaguars with a win yesterday, getting ready for Week five
Speaker 3: at Tottenham Hotspurt.
Speaker 2: Tottenham, Hotspurt.
Speaker 4: Oh you said it wrong. No, no, no, Tottenham.
Speaker 3: I was just making sure you knew the first time
Speaker 3: you said it wrong, I said, Tottenham, mister judgemental, say
Speaker 3: it right.
Speaker 4: Dressed up for the show, by the way.
Speaker 5: I always dressed up for the show, you know, JP,
Speaker 5: I'm a professional broadcast.
Speaker 3: Your collar is out of whack here, That's okay, whatever
Speaker 3: you need.
Speaker 4: I'm glad. I'm so glad you.
Speaker 5: Look good, though, I mean, Jeff now t shirt, I'm
Speaker 5: not sure that's bad.
Speaker 2: You know, drinking beer.
Speaker 4: We're all drinking beer shirt. I'm like, yeah, I guess
Speaker 4: everyone else is dressed like a club issued a peril,
Speaker 4: so maybe I'm a little bit out of it by about.
Speaker 4: How about the spread we have here? We got some hummus.
Speaker 4: It looks great. But this sausage platter with I didn't
Speaker 4: know that it came with onion rings.
Speaker 2: That's a win right there. Yeah, it's day that looks
Speaker 2: very healthy.
Speaker 4: What is this? Is this like a that's go or something?
Speaker 5: No, it's some sort of relish we got going on here.
Speaker 5: I haven't dug in. Let me try the chutney or something.
Speaker 5: Let's see what this chutney is.
Speaker 4: That what that is? I'm gonna try it on a.
Speaker 2: On an onion ring on your ring on the air.
Speaker 2: This is great, there's interesting.
Speaker 4: So let me I'll move my mic.
Speaker 2: Son't yeah, the balance is key here.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's disgusting.
Speaker 3: I mean just I mean we're talking about slopping and
Speaker 3: gum and right, well, let's hold the mic down.
Speaker 4: Let's hear it.
Speaker 2: How is it?
Speaker 4: He's still he's still chewing. He's thinking, Yes.
Speaker 2: Tony outstanding, it's a it's not a man, I guess
Speaker 2: it almost. It tastes a little sweet, it has some
Speaker 2: fruit in there. It's very good.
Speaker 3: And we haven't handing of the sausages yet. Different types
Speaker 3: of sausage. Well, no, we did. I tried the sausage.
Speaker 3: You already take on JP. You need to get the
Speaker 3: mustard over there and then we can. Thanks, yeah, we
Speaker 3: need to there you go. You gotta have the mustard.
Speaker 3: That makes sense.
Speaker 5: That in so great food great great. First of all,
Speaker 5: it's always it's listen. It's great to be over here
Speaker 5: in London. I cannot say enough about our London Jaguar fans,
Speaker 5: but not just our London Jaguar fans which are growing
Speaker 5: by the day, also all the Jacksonville Jaguar fans from
Speaker 5: Duval across the pond to support us, like what Jacksonville
Speaker 5: and what shod Con and his the leadership are doing.
Speaker 5: Like set aside the Jaguar second for a second. I
Speaker 5: love the fact that we are investing in the growth
Speaker 5: of the sport I love, which is American football, which
Speaker 5: is a American sport, it is not an international sport,
Speaker 5: which Sead through the NFL is doing of committing to
Speaker 5: come to UK and not just for one week a year,
Speaker 5: but a staff over here twelve months a year, launching Jagtag,
Speaker 5: going to schools, going across UK. Up into this year,
Speaker 5: we went into Northern Ireland, you know Scotland.
Speaker 4: Next year we're going to Ireland.
Speaker 2: Did you did you know JP was out of school today?
Speaker 5: Yeah, was a school up north, up North, So you know,
Speaker 5: Jagtags all over the place.
Speaker 4: I was here from the beginning.
Speaker 5: So just the growth of the sport that I love,
Speaker 5: it's really important to me. And then if you make
Speaker 5: it Jaguar specific the growth of the fan base here
Speaker 5: and JP, you and I here about it all the time.
Speaker 4: On Monday nights, we get.
Speaker 5: Tweets and questions and we do a weekly segment for
Speaker 5: our UK fans, true that we do, and so that's grown.
Speaker 5: And then top it all off when we come over
Speaker 5: here and Jeff and I did an autograph signing Saturday.
Speaker 2: Who did that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Saturday, line out the door of this of this place,
Speaker 4: and I would say either fifty to fifty or sixty
Speaker 4: forty in the favor of Jaguar fans from Jacksonville Duvall
Speaker 4: fans flew to London to come support the team. I
Speaker 4: think it's awesome.
Speaker 5: And every fan I talked to, and this is at
Speaker 5: the autograph signing or in Wimbley yesterday, we're so excited
Speaker 5: and have told me how much fun it is to
Speaker 5: come over to London to watch the Jaguars play. And
Speaker 5: I talked to some fans that have done it every
Speaker 5: year and so this is such a for me.
Speaker 4: It's fun. I enjoyed.
Speaker 2: And there's a bunch of them that have come over
Speaker 2: here for both games.
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is so cool right there, We got our
Speaker 5: people the both game people here and shocking that they
Speaker 5: be the ones drinking beer.
Speaker 4: We'll listen to the.
Speaker 3: Show amazing by the way, and there's our also some
Speaker 3: people that went to the game yesterday and are going
Speaker 3: next week that maybe hop over to Paris.
Speaker 2: Or to Ireland. We met a couple last night, yeah,
Speaker 2: at the Mirror bar. Yeah yeah, these bars run together.
Speaker 2: But a long night and great people and from Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: And then now they're living in south Ford. They came
Speaker 2: over and they're doing the trip, you know, doing the
Speaker 2: thing to where they're here in London and then bam
Speaker 2: they're to go and visit another place for four days
Speaker 2: and then turn around and come back for the second game,
Speaker 2: and you know, making a whole adventure, which is which
Speaker 2: is pretty cool, you know. I mean, my wife and
Speaker 2: daughter are doing this kind of the same thing. They're
Speaker 2: going to Paris for. I went to Prague, that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 2: last last.
Speaker 4: I did the show. I did the show from progue
Speaker 4: lass who listened last week?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: You saw it on Jaguars dot com. Maybe he was
Speaker 3: in Prague, Czech Republic? How was that last week?
Speaker 4: Awesome? Awesome?
Speaker 2: Any Jaguar fans over there?
Speaker 5: I did not see any Jaguar fans over there. I
Speaker 5: did not, but that's okay, we'll grow that. I'll work
Speaker 5: on that next year, working on the Prague contingent.
Speaker 2: Today we did a little sight seeing, you know. We
Speaker 2: went down to the London Eye, Buckingham Palace.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all great things, Big Ben.
Speaker 2: And and actually walked from from the hotel.
Speaker 4: Which was got your steps in today.
Speaker 2: I got a lot of steps in today and I
Speaker 2: got got sweat. But I will tell you, Jaguar everyone
Speaker 2: you everywhere all over that was cool. I mean walking
Speaker 2: the streets of London and seeing Jaguars apparel. I mean
Speaker 2: that was cool, not just at the touristy spots, but
Speaker 2: where you where else you go in London. That's cool
Speaker 2: to see, you know, because when we.
Speaker 4: First came out here, that was where I was going.
Speaker 2: Jeff, what was the year thirteen twenty thirteen?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe it was thirteen or fourth.
Speaker 2: I think it was the first year at thirty thirteen, yes,
Speaker 2: and it was Gus Bradley's first year as a head
Speaker 2: coach and first year that or one of the first
Speaker 2: years that Shad was the owner of the team. I
Speaker 2: think it was the first or second year, second year,
Speaker 2: second year.
Speaker 3: And when we came over here, and I'll never forget
Speaker 3: because we stayed at the Wembley Hilton. No we didn't,
Speaker 3: we stay at the Grosvenor, but we stayed the day
Speaker 3: before at the at the Wembley Hilt.
Speaker 2: The night before we stayed at No, that was later. No, No,
Speaker 2: that's right.
Speaker 4: Remember the first year we stayed out way out in
Speaker 4: the middle of But the first game, when you went
Speaker 4: to the first game, it was rare to see a
Speaker 4: Jaguars jersey.
Speaker 2: I mean, like rare.
Speaker 4: It was a special sighting, which.
Speaker 2: Was cool that you saw all the NFL jersey.
Speaker 5: It was a tapestry of NFL jersey, but that did
Speaker 5: not include the Jaguars.
Speaker 2: But since then, I mean, it's been amazing how many
Speaker 2: how many Jaguar jerseys you now see, and some of
Speaker 2: them are kind of classics. I mean, we had a
Speaker 2: Blaine Gabberd jersey at the signing that brought Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 2: We had we had the boats jersey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Blake Portals. Were there any fifty six logomans None?
Speaker 2: No? None, highly disappointed, Yeah, highly disappointed.
Speaker 3: I thought that would have that would have been an
Speaker 3: all timer. Yeah, there there was some Abdulla fifty six,
Speaker 3: Abdula Jersey fifty six Jersey?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well how does that work?
Speaker 4: It's all good, though, JP, but it was I'm just
Speaker 4: saying all jokings.
Speaker 5: This is I enjoy it, and I think our fans
Speaker 5: enjoy it and I and I know for a fact
Speaker 5: that we've grown the fan base of American football, which
Speaker 5: is important to just me. I don't care if it's
Speaker 5: sporting anyone else, it's important to me. And I know
Speaker 5: we've the Jaguar fan base. Me yesterday before the game,
Speaker 5: and this was on Twitter and Instagram. This was the
Speaker 5: first for me, the gender reveal for a I don't
Speaker 5: know if you saw this, James, I missed this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: There was a pregame. There was a mother and daughter
Speaker 5: and the you know mother was probably my agent. She
Speaker 5: had a daughter who was pregnant and they wanted to
Speaker 5: do a gender reveal before the game, and so they
Speaker 5: came over. She the daughters were in a seventy one
Speaker 5: jersey and I did the gender reveal whether it was a.
Speaker 4: Boy or girl, and what was it?
Speaker 2: It was a girl, all right.
Speaker 5: And I'm just sitting there thinking these people had no
Speaker 5: idea who the Jaguars were before we started this whole journey.
Speaker 5: And to have this happen and to get a win,
Speaker 5: what a great day.
Speaker 4: We're back in a moment.
Speaker 3: The second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour will include fan
Speaker 3: questions from the audience.
Speaker 4: Look out, Tony, I can't wait, let's hear it, let's go,
Speaker 4: get ready to ask questions.
Speaker 3: At Jeguars Happy Hour, presented by Jehome Loans.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: It's the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour and we
Speaker 3: are presented by mister Chubby's Wings.
Speaker 2: We welcome you to London. Are at the Pavilion End.
Speaker 3: Pub in the basement on Watling Street in central London,
Speaker 3: two blocks away from Saint Paul's Cathedral. After a Jaguars
Speaker 3: win in week number four over the Atlanta Falcons twenty
Speaker 3: three to seven, the final score. On to next week
Speaker 3: now the Jaguars face the Buffalo Bills at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium.
Speaker 4: That's the coming Sunday. We're very well done, can we?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yes, real quick? We got a great crowd here, a
Speaker 5: bunch of jag fans and you got but the only
Speaker 5: thing is you miss timed your duvall. We'd like to
Speaker 5: hear a good duvall. Right now, not when we're not
Speaker 5: on air.
Speaker 4: We'll get us started, Tony. So can we get a
Speaker 4: Duvall on the counter? Three? Are we ready? All right?
Speaker 4: Here we go?
Speaker 2: One?
Speaker 4: Two, three? Beautiful.
Speaker 3: I like it, well done, Thank you very play to go, Tony.
Speaker 3: It's like you've done that before a couple of times. Yes,
Speaker 3: a lot to get to. Of course, in this second
Speaker 3: hour coming up, we'll get back into the offense again.
Speaker 3: Ridley doing it against his old team with a touchdown
Speaker 3: to open the scoring. Yesterday, the defense had three takeaways,
Speaker 3: including a pick six from Jerius Williams, three from Josh Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know, they almost had another one he dropped one.
Speaker 3: And then of course now the Jaguars back to even
Speaker 3: as is every team in the AFC South.
Speaker 2: Just you know, Darius Williams had really good game and
Speaker 2: he needed that. You know, the week before against the Texans,
Speaker 2: you know those two big long plays to Tank Dell,
Speaker 2: the one that was early in the ball game that
Speaker 2: set up the first Texan score, and then the one
Speaker 2: that was late that was a long touchdown that pretty
Speaker 2: much slammed the door shut. Those were on him and
Speaker 2: so great to see him bounce back and have a
Speaker 2: strong game, arguably his best performance that he's had as
Speaker 2: a Jaguar. And what's crazy is that that's the first
Speaker 2: interception that he's had since like November of twenty twenty. Wow,
Speaker 2: as a pro, which is amazing. That's a long stretch
Speaker 2: of time for a defensive back, especially one who's a starter,
Speaker 2: going without an interception. So I'm sure he feels so
Speaker 2: happy this week. Had to have the bounce back and
Speaker 2: then also to get that interception, which is the first
Speaker 2: one in a while.
Speaker 4: All Right, we're gonna pull the old switcheroo here.
Speaker 3: All right, let's do it so normally on this program
Speaker 3: and those who listen or watch, we do the fanatics
Speaker 3: fan questions where we put out the cat signal on
Speaker 3: X and get the best posts, which.
Speaker 4: We've done again today.
Speaker 2: We might come back to that in a little while.
Speaker 3: Sure, we're gonna do live questions from the audience. We
Speaker 3: haven't done this since phone calls. And you were a
Speaker 3: huge fan of the phone calls, Tony, I know you were.
Speaker 3: Don't act like you weren't. We had fun, but tonight
Speaker 3: you get to face these people in person.
Speaker 2: Well, I love it, and we got a first one
Speaker 2: up here.
Speaker 4: Hey, what's your name?
Speaker 2: Where you're from?
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 7: I'm Ted from Jacksonville. Welcome going for both games?
Speaker 2: So I love Ted. I love it.
Speaker 7: Hey, Tony, I got a question regarding our offensive line. Okay,
Speaker 7: Cam Robinson's back from suspension. Yep, does he start Sunday
Speaker 7: against the Bills and where?
Speaker 5: And what do we do with Walker Walker? Great question, Ded,
Speaker 5: great question. I think we're gonna talk. We're gonna have
Speaker 5: to change our keeping it real. Okay, that's okay, we
Speaker 5: can double up. Yes, he starts. Cam is one of
Speaker 5: our best five offensive line. I mean there's no I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't thin Jeff would argue that. I don't think
Speaker 5: anyone would argue that. The problem you have if I
Speaker 5: were to look at the span of games that Walker
Speaker 5: Little has played at left tackle since Cam got hurt,
Speaker 5: and I think that is what now eight or nine
Speaker 5: nine games?
Speaker 2: This past game was was hit? Was Walker Little seventh
Speaker 2: regular season start in.
Speaker 5: His career, and then and then twooffs, so nine he's
Speaker 5: had nine arts. So if I look at that body
Speaker 5: of work and then I go back to the nine
Speaker 5: previous games where Cam Robinson started, I think Walker's played
Speaker 5: better at left tackle than Cam. Now if that doesn't
Speaker 5: change the fact that Cam's one of our best five.
Speaker 5: So now you have to ask yourself, Okay, how do
Speaker 5: I kind of what do I do with this? Because
Speaker 5: I need Cam on the field because he's one of
Speaker 5: my best five. But Walker Little is probably my best
Speaker 5: left tackle right now, just based on the body of Evans.
Speaker 5: So what I would do, I would and this change
Speaker 5: I have actually changed my opinion since preseason.
Speaker 2: Really I would take.
Speaker 5: Walker Little and put him at left guard because I
Speaker 5: think Walker Little is your.
Speaker 2: Best offensive linement period.
Speaker 5: And if you go back to the third preseason game,
Speaker 5: I thought Walker Little played very well, very physical, great
Speaker 5: job of getting to the next level when he played
Speaker 5: left guard, and so I think he's your best offensive lineman.
Speaker 5: Cam's one of your best five, and so to get
Speaker 5: both of them on the field, you put Walker at
Speaker 5: left guard and Cam at left.
Speaker 2: Tackle, but not taking over right tackle for it.
Speaker 5: No, Harrison, Anton Harrison is one of your best five
Speaker 5: offensive linement, and he has a ton of upside. You
Speaker 5: drafted in the first round. He has the upside. You
Speaker 5: do not move the rookie from right tackle.
Speaker 2: Right now, see I'm gonna slow it down a little bit, okay,
Speaker 2: and go back in time just a little bit. You
Speaker 2: remember in the preseason when Cam was playing a lot
Speaker 2: down the stretch at left tackle because you knew that
Speaker 2: the suspend. Okay, the head coach wasn't very happy with
Speaker 2: the performance of Cam Robinson in camp and standing.
Speaker 4: So so if.
Speaker 2: He didn't have a great camp, okay, and then during
Speaker 2: the suspension, now it's not like he's practicing, Okay, he's
Speaker 2: doing his own thing. He is not allowed on the
Speaker 2: practice field. He's been in the building field, not in
Speaker 2: the field, not on the field. Okay. So today, if
Speaker 2: they had a practice today, which they don't because the
Speaker 2: players had a day off, today is the first time
Speaker 2: he's allowed to practice. So here we're talking about a
Speaker 2: guy who had a level of inactivity. Okay, he was
Speaker 2: able to do some physical things, hasn't had a practice
Speaker 2: in multiple weeks. And then before when he was playing,
Speaker 2: he didn't play very well. So I think he almost
Speaker 2: have to if you're gonna do it, then and when
Speaker 2: I say do it, what Tony's talking about putting Cam
Speaker 2: in at left tackle and moving Walker a little left guard,
Speaker 2: that that's a there's a lot of faith there because
Speaker 2: you're doing something that you haven't trusted with your eyes,
Speaker 2: and you don't have any evidence that tells you that's
Speaker 2: the best thing to do. You're kind of just saying, hey, look,
Speaker 2: we think this might be the best thing to do,
Speaker 2: or we think this might be the best term long term,
Speaker 2: but maybe it's not the best for right now. So
Speaker 2: I don't know it. Maybe it takes a week, maybe
Speaker 2: it takes two weeks. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 2: the answer to that. I don't Here's the thing, I
Speaker 2: don't know if there is the right answer. But I
Speaker 2: do believe what Tony's saying that eventually that that's where
Speaker 2: it needs to be. So I said, I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna ask you.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put you on the spot, Jeff, because I
Speaker 4: came out and said, this is what I did. Ted,
Speaker 4: great question.
Speaker 2: Appreciate what I do.
Speaker 5: Appreciate it based on what you've seen in the preseason.
Speaker 5: You described and you and I are one hundred percent
Speaker 5: of line and how Cam played in the preseason.
Speaker 4: Could not.
Speaker 5: Now you take that how Walker's played over the period
Speaker 5: time we talked about. But then you have these four
Speaker 5: games of how the interior three of this offensive line
Speaker 5: have played if you, Jeff Logman, were the head coach
Speaker 5: and offensive line coach and you had to make a
Speaker 5: decision today for this week's game against the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5: Is this team better of rolling the dice as you've described?
Speaker 5: And it's hard for me to disagree with because Cam
Speaker 5: hasn't practiced. I'm taking a blind leap of faith here
Speaker 5: a little bit. But are you better off doing that
Speaker 5: with Cam at left Walker at left guard, left tackle,
Speaker 5: left guard, or rolling out keeping Cam on the sideline
Speaker 5: for another week seeing where he is and rolling out
Speaker 5: the offensive line you rolled out against the Land Falcony.
Speaker 2: What would you do if it were me, I would
Speaker 2: roll out the same offensive line that I had against
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons. And Cam is active, okay, And then
Speaker 2: because I want to see him practice for more than
Speaker 2: just essentially two days, just to gain number one confidence
Speaker 2: in him to see more, and then also to kind
Speaker 2: of show his teammates that, hey, look, you got to
Speaker 2: earn your way back because because you had a misstep, okay,
Speaker 2: and that's on Cam, this misstep, yeah, okay, it's not
Speaker 2: on anybody else. Hard to argue, not on anybody else.
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to say that you you're trying
Speaker 2: to punish him anymore, but he has to earn his
Speaker 2: way back.
Speaker 4: I think that's fair.
Speaker 5: I'd still do what I said, though Jeff, Jeff makes
Speaker 5: a good point.
Speaker 4: Though Jeff makes a good point. I mean, just because
Speaker 4: he's wrong doesn't make it.
Speaker 2: A bad point.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: You're entitled to your own wrong opinion, right, I know
Speaker 3: how Pete fields Now, that's the Pete Prisco line.
Speaker 4: Another fan question, what's your name?
Speaker 2: Where are you from?
Speaker 4: What's uh? I'm Tyler Pretty, I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. Okay,
Speaker 4: love it game all the way out here? Love it?
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 7: So in regards of the most drop passes the Jaguars
Speaker 7: hold that, do you think that's in fault more of
Speaker 7: Trevor Lawrence or the receiver's fault.
Speaker 4: That's the easiest question I've had all night here. You
Speaker 4: go the receivers. One hundred percent of the receivers have
Speaker 4: hit your hands.
Speaker 5: You catch the ball. That's what you get paid to do.
Speaker 5: That'd be like me missing a block and blaming the quarterback.
Speaker 5: You've done that before.
Speaker 2: I've done before. I think I read a story. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you've done that before, but it was.
Speaker 4: Still my fault, even if I didn't want to admit it.
Speaker 4: Now that's one hundred percent on the receiver. Well, there was.
Speaker 2: I don't think there was a drop yesterday. There was
Speaker 2: that was like glue hands, the best catch job of
Speaker 2: the Jaguars yet this year. You know, prior to that game,
Speaker 2: nine drops on the season and Calvin had four. And
Speaker 2: you know, if you go back and you look at
Speaker 2: this team over the last two years, they've led the
Speaker 2: league in drops, which is amazing to think of that,
Speaker 2: and so hopefully that changes this year. But as of
Speaker 2: the conclusion of the Texans game, that's where it was headed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: hopefully they can smooth things out, you know, because everybody
Speaker 2: was double catching things against the Texans. This pass game
Speaker 2: it was almost clean. It was clean, it was effortless,
Speaker 2: and it was like second nature, no big deal, and
Speaker 2: they've got to continue to do that. By the way,
Speaker 2: we haven't given Trevor Lawrence enough praise for this performance
Speaker 2: that he had in this game. I thought that that
Speaker 2: was one of his best games because not only did
Speaker 2: he do a really good job without much of a
Speaker 2: running game, but I thought that he used his legs
Speaker 2: at key moments in the ballgame. I wished he used
Speaker 2: his legs one more time, Okay, on that third and
Speaker 2: five where he chose to throw it in the end
Speaker 2: zone to Ernest Johnson when he could have just literally
Speaker 2: walked to a first down and could have gotten a
Speaker 2: lot more. But I thought he played a really solid game.
Speaker 2: And when your team is down, you need to have
Speaker 2: your best players rise up and have their best performances.
Speaker 2: And I don't think it was Trevor's best, because he's
Speaker 2: capable of so much, but his level of performance was
Speaker 2: raised in this game, and it made everybody else better,
Speaker 2: and that's what you want, somebody that's gonna be gritty
Speaker 2: and kind of you know the old saying, take the
Speaker 2: bull by the horns, take responsibility himself. And that was impressive,
Speaker 2: and that's what Trevor has always done, but in this game,
Speaker 2: they really needed it. Jaggs fans gear up at fanatics
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Speaker 4: Oh, we've got some time left, We're gonna come back
Speaker 4: in a moment.
Speaker 2: We'll open the floor again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think for the rest of the
Speaker 5: show we'll do keep it real. But I think at
Speaker 5: any point these lovely Jacksonville fans that are sharing a
Speaker 5: few pints would.
Speaker 4: Like to come up and ask a question. I think
Speaker 4: they just march themselves up here and ask the questions.
Speaker 2: Just keep it clean, yeah, or we can add it.
Speaker 2: I guess we can't. We surely can. Hey, thank you
Speaker 2: for joining us today. We're back in just a moment
Speaker 2: with keeping it real.
Speaker 3: In London it is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister
Speaker 3: Chubby's Wings at the Pavilion n Pub on Watling Street
Speaker 3: and Central London, just blocks away from Saint Paul's Cathedral.
Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 4: JB.
Speaker 3: Shadwick with Hall of Paper until he was Selly and
Speaker 3: Jeff Lockman. No Pete Prisco this week? Yeah Pete.
Speaker 5: Uh, we miss Pete, but we couldn't.
Speaker 4: He couldn't figure out how to get to London.
Speaker 2: So guess what if you're not in London, you're not
Speaker 2: in the show. But what what game was he at?
Speaker 2: Was he at the Miami Buffalo game? I don't think
Speaker 2: he goes.
Speaker 4: Hen't go. He doesn't go to any games. What he
Speaker 4: does is he sits.
Speaker 5: And I think the CBS like control tower and watches
Speaker 5: all the games. Because I will say the one valuable thing.
Speaker 5: There's several values I love Pete, but usually on I
Speaker 5: did he said, oh, just one, I said.
Speaker 2: One of the.
Speaker 5: Is on this show because he's he watches every game,
Speaker 5: and so he has a perspective because you and I
Speaker 5: don't see every game. We see one at best too
Speaker 5: if if we get home for the Lake game, and
Speaker 5: so it's it's always fun to hear.
Speaker 4: From Pete because he.
Speaker 2: Understands what's happening across He got a great perspective.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does.
Speaker 5: He has a great perspective. Don't tell him I said
Speaker 5: anything nice about him.
Speaker 2: I won't. I won't, but I will say that sometimes
Speaker 2: he thinks he knows the best way to game plan.
Speaker 2: That's my favorite part about him. But he doesn't know.
Speaker 4: He is a strong opinion. That's wrong, but at least
Speaker 4: it's strong. It's strong. There's nothing stronger than Pete Priscoll's opinion.
Speaker 2: But the one thing that about Pete Priscoe, I will
Speaker 2: say that he was way forward thinking. Years ago. He
Speaker 2: was preaching about you got to have a quarterback, quarterback league,
Speaker 2: got to have a quarterback, gotta have aback, and that
Speaker 2: was before people realized and a lot of people are thinking, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can get by without a quarterback. No you can't,
Speaker 2: I mean, especially today's rule, especially with today. But Pete
Speaker 2: was on the money with that.
Speaker 3: He also calls himself Pete Prisco because there's an I
Speaker 3: in Prisco. That's Pete Nutshell exactly. Hey, we're gonna take hey,
Speaker 3: some more questions from our audience right now. We're gonna
Speaker 3: call this Keeping It Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi.
Speaker 3: Open up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning line
Speaker 3: by Robert Mundavi.
Speaker 2: Still waiting, Tony, I'm not gonna.
Speaker 4: Touch that today?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 4: I mean, we'll discuss it later. Well, okay, that's fine.
Speaker 4: I know where you're going with this. Fan questions, Hi, welcome,
Speaker 4: what's your name?
Speaker 2: Where you're from?
Speaker 8: I'm Mike Club from Goalie Yorkshire. How to get a
Speaker 8: British pessonal payer?
Speaker 5: Okay, hold on, where are you from the city, Yorkshires.
Speaker 4: East Yorkshire? Yeah, Yorkshire?
Speaker 5: Yeah I got that, but he said, like you can
Speaker 5: tell me I didn't understand that the first time.
Speaker 4: Welcome, Thank you. This is what I deal with every week.
Speaker 5: No, no, No, East Yorkshire is a great little community.
Speaker 2: Is totally making this up.
Speaker 4: Yorkshire is a great place.
Speaker 5: I didn't understand the East Yorkshire Party kind of ran
Speaker 5: together in your strong accent, which is beautiful.
Speaker 4: But what's your question?
Speaker 8: My question is how do you think an extra week
Speaker 8: away from away from how he is going to the place?
Speaker 2: Great question this week?
Speaker 5: You know what, I got to say something that's better
Speaker 5: than any American question we've got. Wow, I mean good
Speaker 5: friends to well, I'm just saying, I mean, that's a
Speaker 5: great question.
Speaker 2: By the way, did we do do any good in
Speaker 2: ryder Cup? Because everywhere we've gone I got to say
Speaker 2: this for real, we have to bring this up. But
Speaker 2: kick people have known that we're Americans walking around. The
Speaker 2: first thing they want to talk about with us is
Speaker 2: ryder Cup. That has not been fun this week. Now,
Speaker 2: I didn't go well for you. I did it.
Speaker 4: No, I conceded, though I conceded it was over. What
Speaker 4: do you think about that though?
Speaker 5: The Well, I think it's interesting because I think some
Speaker 5: guys had their families come over and so they'll have
Speaker 5: their wives or girlfriends or significant other others here.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's that big a deal.
Speaker 2: I really don't.
Speaker 5: And I mean one week, even if it's up to
Speaker 5: ten days if you count when they left last week,
Speaker 5: being away from the family. I mean, don't let my
Speaker 5: wife hear this. But when I was, when I had
Speaker 5: young kids, ten days sleep in a hotel, no kids,
Speaker 5: good rest, I think I might have played better. So
Speaker 5: I don't think it's a huge deal now. But what
Speaker 5: I really don't when it can.
Speaker 2: Be a huge deal is the stress of let's say
Speaker 2: you have a significant other that wants to be there
Speaker 2: and you're trying to take care of all the details
Speaker 2: for tickets and everything, and or family that wants to come,
Speaker 2: you know. So that's the one thing I think that
Speaker 2: players all face challenge wise. And it's not just about
Speaker 2: being over here. It's also being back in the state
Speaker 2: sometimes that you have to handle family sometimes and because
Speaker 2: sometimes they can be a pain in the rear.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Jeff I would say, that's that's across the board.
Speaker 5: That happens always. I was fortunate. I mean I got
Speaker 5: married before I ever showed up in Jacksonville. I mean
Speaker 5: I got drafted, got married, then came to training camp,
Speaker 5: and so my wife was always great about handling all
Speaker 5: the distractions so I did not have to. So like
Speaker 5: if you wanted a ticket and you were a part
Speaker 5: of our family, it went through her, not me. And
Speaker 5: so if it was me and I was coming over
Speaker 5: here for ten days, whether she came or not would
Speaker 5: be her decision. But regardless she I would just put
Speaker 5: everything to her. Like you handle the tickets, you do
Speaker 5: all that. I don't want to worry about it, and
Speaker 5: so I don't.
Speaker 2: Think it's that bigetting now. And one of the other
Speaker 2: things that the team has done an amazing job of
Speaker 2: trying to make the experience over here as close to
Speaker 2: home as possible, you know, as far as taking care
Speaker 2: of a lot of small that may be issues with
Speaker 2: the players, Like the first couple of years that teams
Speaker 2: kind of was still figuring it out, you know, the meals,
Speaker 2: the schedule, making sure that the players had the best
Speaker 2: way to get rested while all this travel was going on.
Speaker 2: And they really, I don't want to say they have
Speaker 2: completely figured out, but with the experience of the number
Speaker 2: of years being here, this year being year ten, it's
Speaker 2: become a lot easier for these players because of everything
Speaker 2: that they've learned through the course of a decade. Thanks
Speaker 2: for the question.
Speaker 5: I want to say this from East Yorkshire. I didn't
Speaker 5: understand the first three times you said it's not an
Speaker 5: egg Yorkshire, Yorkshire. That's what I said, East Yorkshire.
Speaker 4: Got to work on this guy. What are you talking
Speaker 4: about East Yorkshire?
Speaker 2: Anyway?
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Thank you, great question, and I apologize for
Speaker 5: that understanding you the first three times you.
Speaker 2: Said that it's strong.
Speaker 4: I can't believe how long you've been a Jags fan.
Speaker 8: Ever since day one. I was there for the first
Speaker 8: game when there was no one else there in a
Speaker 8: Jacks jersey but me, and we got really heavily beaten
Speaker 8: by the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: I went to Jacksonville a few years ago.
Speaker 8: What does beat the cult six?
Speaker 2: Nothing?
Speaker 4: It was a game, that's awesome.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been it's been quite a journey.
Speaker 2: But what was your Jags jersey that you were wearing.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I came in. I came straight from work today.
Speaker 8: I think it was. It was a Eugene one Road.
Speaker 2: Jersey that was.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: By the way, that's a University of Virginia guy. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well nobody cares.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Thanks for the question, you guys. Thanks for all the
Speaker 4: support too. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: We got plenty of time for more. Let's get another. Uh,
Speaker 3: let's get one morning before the time. We'll get some more.
Speaker 3: By the way, the first game was a bad memory.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, that was a really good forty nine
Speaker 3: Ers team.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And they scored on the first four possessions of
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 4: Yes, they did.
Speaker 2: And it was twenty eight nothing before we even knew.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this.
Speaker 5: You and I were on the field during pregame and
Speaker 5: the forty nine Ers came out, and then the Jags
Speaker 5: came out. We both looked at each other and saying,
Speaker 5: this is not not gonna go. Well, oh we were little,
Speaker 5: they were big. We weren't fast. They were fast.
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is bad combination.
Speaker 3: Like the echo of the anthem was still plague and
Speaker 3: it was fourteen zip Ooh what's up man?
Speaker 4: How are you welcome?
Speaker 2: Good? I'm good.
Speaker 4: What's you name? Where you're from? Domas Stanley from Jacksonville,
Speaker 4: another Jaguars. We saw you? Were you at the autograph
Speaker 4: the meet and greet?
Speaker 3: Yes, the meet and shirt? He's got the shirt that
Speaker 3: Mitchell and ness. Well, here's how we remember broken finger.
Speaker 3: There it is there, it is, sir, all right, what's up. Well,
Speaker 3: looking forward to this Sunday and the Josh Allen Bowl,
Speaker 3: how did the Jaguars defensively stop Josh Allen and Stefon Dicks,
Speaker 3: specifically Jeff Secondary. It is the second Josh Allen Bowl.
Speaker 3: By the way, the Jaguars got the Bills a few
Speaker 3: years ago in Jacksonville and beat it has another field
Speaker 3: goal game. It was like what six, that's right, Josh
Speaker 3: Allen had a Jaguars Josh Allen had a big day
Speaker 3: against Bills.
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, and I think that has to happen again. Okay,
Speaker 2: the Josh Allen that we have in Tel has to
Speaker 2: have a big day to really neutralize Josh Allen of
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. And if that doesn't happen, I think
Speaker 2: we struggle just because they're that good of a football team.
Speaker 2: And you know, the one key component for this defense
Speaker 2: that's been key to their success in the three games
Speaker 2: that they've done pretty well in as a defense, even
Speaker 2: though they didn't win the game against Kansas City, has
Speaker 2: been their ability to be really good against the run
Speaker 2: to help their defense out against the pass. And that
Speaker 2: has to continue against Buffalo. But even then, it's no
Speaker 2: guarantee that they're going to stop.
Speaker 5: Jeff, don't you think the other big thing is turnover?
Speaker 5: Is because where we've had success, we've turned the ball over. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think turnovers is going to go a long way.
Speaker 5: I think we have to win the turnover battle to
Speaker 5: win the game by how many Well, I just think
Speaker 5: winning the turnover, whether it's one two, I just think
Speaker 5: we have to win the turnover.
Speaker 4: Give us, give ourselves.
Speaker 2: If our offense is clunky, we got to be plus.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I care if our.
Speaker 2: Offense takes some steps, and I think plus one with
Speaker 2: you know, maybe a couple other maybe a good special
Speaker 2: teams play. Yeah, a good field positions stopping them on
Speaker 2: downs or something of that nature will help us out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, awesome, would agree. Thanks for the question, Sis, say,
Speaker 4: thanks for coming over to showing up there.
Speaker 3: We've got we'll come back in a moment. We've got
Speaker 3: plenty of show ahead. About thirty minutes left, not plenty,
Speaker 3: only thirty minutes. Well, we have thirty minutes left. Plenty
Speaker 3: depends on relative to what we have left.
Speaker 5: Well, if you look at the beginning when we have
Speaker 5: two hours, now we have much less than we.
Speaker 2: Have only one quarter of that left.
Speaker 4: That's a lot of times. Do they have that in England?
Speaker 2: Or is that the metric system time is different.
Speaker 4: I think time is consistent, whether it's.
Speaker 2: I'm with you.
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Speaker 3: More questions from the Pavilion End Pub in London after.
Speaker 4: A Jaguars win.
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Speaker 3: Get Jaguars Happy Hour in London at the Pavilion In Pub,
Speaker 3: a couple of blocks away from Saint Paul's Cathedral, jpes Tony.
Speaker 4: Just to uh, what a great place, what a great pub.
Speaker 4: It's awesome right.
Speaker 5: Thank you to whoever owns this fine establishment, because just
Speaker 5: great crowd, great food.
Speaker 3: The sausage was tremendous, by the way, amazing. That might
Speaker 3: be some of the spiciest mustard I've ever had in
Speaker 3: my life. JP's complained by the mustard. He's not very tough.
Speaker 2: The sausage was fantastic, The food was outstanding.
Speaker 4: Little hummus, a little onion ring.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just a great atmosphere, what a cool place.
Speaker 5: Thank you for hosting us. I really appreciate it. Thank
Speaker 5: you for all the fans coming out, and thank you
Speaker 5: for the great food.
Speaker 3: Hey, we've got fan questions still, so if nobody's in line,
Speaker 3: we'll get to you in just a moment. The uh, hey,
Speaker 3: this is we missed you on Saturday, Tony. The big
Speaker 3: pub party was here Saturday. It was packed both.
Speaker 2: Anybody here for that.
Speaker 3: Hey, we're gonna do it again next Saturday too, so
Speaker 3: I hope to see you back here for that one.
Speaker 3: Fred Taylor was here, which was great to see Freddy
Speaker 3: t on Saturday. And then of course we'll be here
Speaker 3: with the show's Wednesday. On Thursday, I'll I'll be here Thursday.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 5: I'll be here Thursday at the show to sit with
Speaker 5: Jeff since Jeff came and was kind enough to join
Speaker 5: you and I with Pete out, so I'll be in Thursday.
Speaker 2: I heard we're gonna have a special guest Thursday.
Speaker 4: Yes, looking forward to that. Couples.
Speaker 2: Are we announcing that or no?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, just in case I.
Speaker 4: Didn't want to, I don't want to say anything. I
Speaker 4: don't want to say no.
Speaker 5: Show yeah, so I'll be your Thursday. I just found
Speaker 5: out about Wednesday. Maybe what times?
Speaker 2: What else do you do?
Speaker 5: It's five o'clock right here, A lot. I got a
Speaker 5: lot of stuff going on. I can't tell you about
Speaker 5: top secret.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
Speaker 5: It's a lot of interesting things, a lot of things
Speaker 5: moving and shaking, JP.
Speaker 4: I always tell you to be a mover, that's what
Speaker 4: you do. But I'll be your Thursday for sure. And
Speaker 4: this is a great place. I thoroughly enjoy the pub here,
Speaker 4: and thank you for having us in hosting.
Speaker 2: I'm coming back to get more sausage.
Speaker 4: The sausage, I like the onion rings. I'm a big
Speaker 4: I love onion rings.
Speaker 5: Though I would like My request is when we do
Speaker 5: the show Thursday at five?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Is that time?
Speaker 2: We came out five London time? Yes? Five. It will
Speaker 2: still air at Jacksonville normal time.
Speaker 5: Yes, sorry, I would like the sausage. If we can
Speaker 5: have prepared on the table when we show up, that'd
Speaker 5: be perfect.
Speaker 4: Hey, you're in the Hall of Fame, man.
Speaker 2: Whatever you want.
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess. And I noticed something that they
Speaker 4: call it fried squid. I call that Kalamari might have
Speaker 4: to try to Klamari as well.
Speaker 2: There's only way one way to find out if it's good,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure it is.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: I have not had one bad thing at this lovely establishment.
Speaker 2: It's always good, Yes, absolutely all right. We've got plenty
Speaker 2: of fan questions.
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Speaker 3: pavilion end, sir, what's your name?
Speaker 2: Where are you from? I mean, name's John Henry.
Speaker 4: Okay, where are you from?
Speaker 2: I'm from a little county called I knew that was coming.
Speaker 4: Uh fake, No, he got mate? You get me? Not
Speaker 4: very good? That's okay? What's up?
Speaker 6: I just want to know how can we Jaguars improved
Speaker 6: special teams going against Buffalo this weekend?
Speaker 2: Get agnew back? Well, I mean, I think, but I
Speaker 2: thought Logan was great this week.
Speaker 5: Logan Cook did a good job. I thought Logan did
Speaker 5: a great job. I thought mcmahonis was great hitting long
Speaker 5: field goals.
Speaker 2: The return game return maybe.
Speaker 5: Well, the return game, well, they kicked it out, so
Speaker 5: we're not going to return them. I mean the kickoff
Speaker 5: return is taking up really a almost a devalued it.
Speaker 2: Said, nothing play down because you can kick it out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean very few guys got to bring it out.
Speaker 2: I mean, we have a guy that can do that, Agnew,
Speaker 2: but not having him, we mist this team misses him
Speaker 2: punt return mostly but not being on the football field.
Speaker 2: I think punt return and kick return because a lot
Speaker 2: of times you give him, you give him latitude to
Speaker 2: return a kickoff, even when the ball is five yards
Speaker 2: deep in the internet, because you trust them. And if
Speaker 2: if your offense is stumbling and bubbling around, sometimes he
Speaker 2: can kind of kick you wanted to do, as he's
Speaker 2: done so far this year.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think you look at the punt return
Speaker 5: this week. I think they were going to try to
Speaker 5: kind of run their normal role strategy with the rookie
Speaker 5: in there. When he got hurt and Christian Kirk was
Speaker 5: going back there. I am convinced they told him fair
Speaker 5: catch everything or just let it go out of bout
Speaker 5: it or let it go out because they trusted him
Speaker 5: catching it, but they did not want him returning it.
Speaker 2: He had one good return out of it, though, I mean,
Speaker 2: but he's not Agnew.
Speaker 5: No, but remember I'll never like when we had a
Speaker 5: safe return when Jeff and I played, they would put
Speaker 5: Keenan McCardell back there because he was the most trusted
Speaker 5: guy to just catch it. And it drove Keenan crazy
Speaker 5: because they told him fair catch everything, and he would
Speaker 5: break the rules sometimes and start trying to return it.
Speaker 5: And I think that's really what they told Agnews, like, listen,
Speaker 5: unless there's something like wide open, just fair catch it.
Speaker 5: Let's get to the kirk Kirk, yes, Kirk.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 4: So they getting Agnew will help.
Speaker 5: But I think besides return game, I thought the Susians
Speaker 5: are outstanding.
Speaker 3: By the way they said, Jamol Agnew will give it
Speaker 3: a go this week. See how that goes with his
Speaker 3: what thigh injury?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a qual odd wasn't it something
Speaker 2: like the same thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then Parker Washington didn't sound good. Doug Peterson
Speaker 3: mentioned that today, No, they're going to take a further
Speaker 3: look at that.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he had the knee.
Speaker 4: But you know what, did you see it on the film?
Speaker 2: I did, and it was hard to tell exactly what
Speaker 2: happened because there was a pile of bodies. But the
Speaker 2: one thing I got to say is that look you
Speaker 2: were on your third returner in this ball game? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of teams that have three guys
Speaker 2: that they trust to catch it. And because that's a
Speaker 2: hard thing to do, is to trust the guy to
Speaker 2: be your punt returner. It's also for example, if you
Speaker 2: want to find out who they love as far as
Speaker 2: special teams players, look at who's playing on punt team.
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about the gunners. I'm talking about
Speaker 2: the guys that are in front, because those are the
Speaker 2: most trusted guys on special teams because you trust them
Speaker 2: that they're not going to screw it up to get
Speaker 2: a pump. Who's up there.
Speaker 5: There killed John Stotson, sorry, one of them. I was thinking, ye,
Speaker 5: amazing quarterback.
Speaker 4: I was thinking, but I mean credit to Kirk.
Speaker 2: You know, But but I wanted to say this too.
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk is a really good football player, you know,
Speaker 2: and when he gets the ball in the open field,
Speaker 2: he can do some things. It takes a special guy
Speaker 2: to be a returner because you got to have something
Speaker 2: loose up here, okay, because those dudes that are coming
Speaker 2: down the field flying by running full speed okay, and
Speaker 2: and a lot of those guys if they don't make
Speaker 2: a tackle, they're out of the job, and so they're
Speaker 2: coming down there to tattoo somebody's rear end. And so
Speaker 2: it does. It takes a special player to be a returner.
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about a guy that he's either dumb, okay,
Speaker 2: or he's just crazy and loves the contact. But it's
Speaker 2: it takes courage. But it takes a crazy courage in
Speaker 2: a lot of ways. And that's what Agnew has. And
Speaker 2: uh and he's missed when he's not out there.
Speaker 4: Thanks for the question. I appreciate you coming over. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 3: Jacks awesome man. Thanks a lot. Fan questions. Continuing fan questions.
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of great players JP on kick return.
Speaker 4: Yes, that I mean when you.
Speaker 2: When you give the ball to them on offense, they're dynamic,
Speaker 2: they're crazy athletic, and they play fast. You give them
Speaker 2: the ball as a deep guy on kickoff, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden their speed changes because you got eleven
Speaker 2: guys coming down. Oh yeah, it's that's tough that it
Speaker 2: takes a special person.
Speaker 4: Fanatics.
Speaker 3: Fan questions continue after a Jaguars win and then going
Speaker 3: into the Buffalo game, Sir, Hello, what's your name where.
Speaker 2: You're from, Travis from Jacksonville. All right, Jacksonville folks here,
Speaker 2: it's awesome, welcome.
Speaker 9: So my question is, after ten years of games here
Speaker 9: in London and now we're playing games in Germany and
Speaker 9: other places, how long do you guys think it'll be
Speaker 9: until we see an expansion in the NFL into these
Speaker 9: other markets that we're seeing.
Speaker 4: That's interesting.
Speaker 3: I saw I read an article the other day where
Speaker 3: the league is thinking about playing games in Spain.
Speaker 4: Or dred was on Madrid next year, is what I've heard.
Speaker 5: I still think where at least a decade, if not more,
Speaker 5: and maybe not within our lifetimes, but at least a
Speaker 5: decade before you see a team outside the US one
Speaker 5: way or another. Outside of Canada. I could see it's
Speaker 5: going to Canada, like Toronto or something in Vancouver, which
Speaker 5: are major markets. I think the next closest would be
Speaker 5: somewhere in Mexico, maybe Mexico City, but I think that
Speaker 5: has some of its own challenges, and not because there's
Speaker 5: not interest. I think just the travel logistics week in
Speaker 5: and week out, you probably could figure out the regular season,
Speaker 5: but then the competitive disadvantage come playoff time, and what
Speaker 5: it would take from a week to week, not knowing
Speaker 5: where you're going. A team having to go to the US,
Speaker 5: to the UK or Germany or wherever, or vice versa
Speaker 5: them having to come over.
Speaker 2: I think that's a tough one to overcome.
Speaker 5: And you know, now, could they figure out travel with
Speaker 5: the you know, if they brought the concord back or
Speaker 5: something similar. I mean, I don't know, but I don't
Speaker 5: think it's tomorrow. I don't think it's in the near future.
Speaker 5: I think there's a lot to do. And then the
Speaker 5: other thing is I think expansion at the end in
Speaker 5: the NFL probably isn't gonna happen anytime soon.
Speaker 2: Either.
Speaker 5: There is not enough today. There's not enough offensive linemen
Speaker 5: to play the game. Thirty two is the stretch to
Speaker 5: find enough good offensive lines, and there's not enough quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: I think you can fill out the rest of the
Speaker 5: position groups besides offensive linemen and quarterbacks. I just don't
Speaker 5: think there's enough to have good football beyond thirty two.
Speaker 5: So the travel logistics plus that, I think we're a
Speaker 5: long way away from expansions.
Speaker 3: Because we know they can sell I mean that the
Speaker 3: game is sold out. It's not about sold out in
Speaker 3: ten minutes. It's not about demand. Yeah, it's about just
Speaker 3: having a good product.
Speaker 5: Understand the competitive balance of how do you actually do
Speaker 5: something in the playoffs that makes sense?
Speaker 2: And I don't.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is my belief.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's enough offensive linemen and quarterbacks in
Speaker 2: the world. Oh, you can always find players. I disagree.
Speaker 2: I always find players, Jeff.
Speaker 5: The reason they change the rules to protect the quarterbacks
Speaker 5: the way they've did and how they've done that in
Speaker 5: the past, is because they know if that starting quarterback
Speaker 5: gets hurt, the level of play goes so just plummets.
Speaker 5: It's not a good product to watch any longer. That's
Speaker 5: the I mean, they're not protecting quarterbacks in my opinion,
Speaker 5: how to player safety. They're protecting those guys because they
Speaker 5: know if the stars of that position go down, the
Speaker 5: product suffers, their ratings suffer, their revenue sufferers.
Speaker 2: Look at the ratings of the Jets this year.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, the first game of the year was
Speaker 2: going to be sky high with Aaron Rodgers, and you
Speaker 2: lose Aaron Rodgers and all of a sudden, exactly will
Speaker 2: say yesterday though, well you did, I played conversion, but
Speaker 2: he played really well yesterday let's get excited about one game.
Speaker 2: Go on.
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for the question. We really appreciated for that.
Speaker 3: Ex fan questions continuing, Yeah, that's a that's an interesting
Speaker 3: one though. The Germany ones go really quickly. They're playing
Speaker 3: to in Frankfurt this year.
Speaker 2: I remember when I came over here. Uh so at
Speaker 2: my last year playing was nineteen ninety eight, and then
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety nine I called a game for Fox.
Speaker 2: In two thousand and I came over here and called
Speaker 2: NFL Europe games and called one game in Berlin and
Speaker 2: uh and then one game in Amsterdam and all the
Speaker 2: one thing I remember about NFL Europe then the fans
Speaker 2: in Frankfurt and Germany crazy, crazy, crazy over American football
Speaker 2: and the London Monarchs. NFL Europe at that time also
Speaker 2: had a great fan base. But but yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 2: They literally had buses that traveled and followed the team
Speaker 2: of Frankfurt.
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, I don't think it has anything to do
Speaker 4: with demand.
Speaker 5: Everything to do with logistics in the playoffs, especially travel,
Speaker 5: competitive balance, and I just don't think there's enough and
Speaker 5: so the only way you get enough offensive linemen and quarterbacks,
Speaker 5: and I think the NFL is trying to do this.
Speaker 2: Roncher is not worried about finding offensive linemen to play
Speaker 2: in Europe.
Speaker 5: No, but the offensive line. I think you could find
Speaker 5: a bunch offensive linemen in Europe. But you have to start.
Speaker 2: And this is why I love what the Jacks are doing.
Speaker 5: You have to start young and introduce these like because
Speaker 5: I've done camps over here and there are some big
Speaker 5: athletic human beings over here that with the right training,
Speaker 5: could no doubt play offensive line, so that that's more
Speaker 5: doable and filling that need than the quarterback quarterback. Like, guys,
Speaker 5: we have thirty two teams today, and how many franchise quarterbacks,
Speaker 5: how many teams are satisfied with their quarterback situation are
Speaker 5: not looking for someone to replace them right now?
Speaker 4: Half?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, not even half.
Speaker 4: That's less.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's my point.
Speaker 5: Right, Let's say just say it was half twelve to fourteen,
Speaker 5: but let's say it was half. Let's be super like
Speaker 5: feel good about the situation. That's sixteen.
Speaker 4: That means sixteen teams don't have a guy.
Speaker 5: And and then if you're gonna go expand by whether
Speaker 5: it's one to four to whatever, you're.
Speaker 4: Just increasing the number of teams that don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, uh speaking a franchise quarterback, did
Speaker 2: you guys see CJ. Stroud's performance yesterday?
Speaker 4: He's one of them.
Speaker 2: But that guy's one of them. I said this, Jeff,
Speaker 2: I said this earlier.
Speaker 4: Who had who would have thought that the Texans would
Speaker 4: be a real threat this year? But with CJ.
Speaker 5: Stroud and Damico Ryans as the head coach, that is
Speaker 5: a real threat to the Jacksonville Jaguars winning the division
Speaker 5: for the next decade, for the next decade. That's how
Speaker 5: good that kid is. And even this year, oh today,
Speaker 5: they've got the tiebreaker right.
Speaker 2: Now, this minute, they beat they beat a rear ends.
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say something else. I was
Speaker 3: about to bet you wouldn't be wrong, by the way.
Speaker 5: Exactly, And so this is I mean, it's it's gonna
Speaker 5: be a competitive South. I thought it was just pretty
Speaker 5: much you know us And then worry about the time.
Speaker 2: When do we go back to Houston?
Speaker 4: Sure, I think it's late.
Speaker 2: We play.
Speaker 5: Well, here's the good news. We played better at Houston
Speaker 5: than we played the Texans at home.
Speaker 2: So true.
Speaker 3: Uh, thanks to all the fan questions tonight, we appreciate it.
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Speaker 4: Breaking news.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, breaking news. Can we get a camera,
Speaker 2: hold on, give me this, give me.
Speaker 4: The sem me this.
Speaker 3: Pull it up here, look at look at Look at
Speaker 3: that loggament Jersey.
Speaker 2: We found a logument Jersey. I love it.
Speaker 3: They got it out of the British Museum. Unbelievable. For
Speaker 3: my cousin Alex there showed up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a that's an that's an old school school.
Speaker 4: They're all all the Logomans are old school.
Speaker 5: That's how I like how the fans had it best.
Speaker 5: It's not old school, it's vintage. Oh yes, correct, vintage.
Speaker 2: We were trying to find one earlier in London.
Speaker 4: We found one in London.
Speaker 3: To night Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings,
Speaker 3: J P. Shadrick, Tony Biselli, Jeff Logoman from the Pavilion
Speaker 3: Inn Pop in central London. What a scene this should be.
Speaker 3: We'll be back here on Wednesday for huddle up. Apparently, Tony,
Speaker 3: you're coming now as you're open. I'm gonna try to
Speaker 3: come o'clock. I'm trying to come Wednesday. I am committed
Speaker 3: to being here Thursday.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get the details because we need to put
Speaker 4: this out. We need to.
Speaker 5: I want this place like overflowing on Thursday for sure.
Speaker 4: Okay, we can do that.
Speaker 5: Let's I mean especially, you've got good food, you got
Speaker 5: a couple adult beverages.
Speaker 2: I mean, let's get this place filled.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great crowd tonight. No, it's a great
Speaker 3: note to say, no, the crowd's great.
Speaker 5: I want people banging on the doors outside to get
Speaker 5: in and they can't.
Speaker 3: That's how credited okay, we can work on that. Yes, logs,
Speaker 3: you're here the rest of the week.
Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm here, got stuff to do, got we
Speaker 2: got our TV show that we're doing from here.
Speaker 4: Oh cool? Are you doing Thursday Night TV?
Speaker 2: For Thursday night TV? We have our radio show here Thursday.
Speaker 2: If you got to be on Wednesday, I'll be here Wednesday.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to come Wednesday. Who's doing the TV show?
Speaker 5: What do you have a Jaguar or No?
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a great question. I know that
Speaker 2: we got me and Brent Martineau and high and.
Speaker 4: Are you doing live backed it's like midnight?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's not done. It's I think we're
Speaker 2: doing it. You're kind of like this, you're gonna tape
Speaker 2: it in the exactly kind of like.
Speaker 4: This late night, quite an evening at the end of that.
Speaker 2: Shore working out all the details. At least I don't
Speaker 2: know all the details.
Speaker 5: Don't have any guinness if you're doing it live, because
Speaker 5: that would be a tough show.
Speaker 2: But you know this, this has been nice.
Speaker 4: What a great place, This is a great atmosphere.
Speaker 2: Glad that I'm just glad that this is cap this
Speaker 2: is we have this ability here.
Speaker 3: It's really cool. Yeah, and a lot of teamwork to
Speaker 3: get it done. I mean you're on the camera side.
Speaker 3: Is a great job to Joe and Dave and all
Speaker 3: the cameraman.
Speaker 5: We have some UK cameramen here, so thank you and
Speaker 5: a bunch of people.
Speaker 2: Fans have been great. What a really cool atmosphere looking.
Speaker 2: Jason Dean always makes sure.
Speaker 4: Somewhere they all do. He might be Jason might be
Speaker 4: at the bar.
Speaker 2: They might be. I mean, the show's on, so he's good.
Speaker 4: He's good. He got us on the air and he's like,
Speaker 4: I'm out right. We'll see you guys later.
Speaker 3: All right, So coming up of course, this week the
Speaker 3: Jaguars face the Buffalo Bills Tottenham Hot Spurs Stadium, north
Speaker 3: East London, and what a scene it should be. Of course,
Speaker 3: the Jaguars will be the road team in that game
Speaker 3: against the Bills.
Speaker 4: The Bills are a powerful football team.
Speaker 3: They displayed that yesterday, putting up over forty against the Dolphins,
Speaker 3: a perfect passer rating for Bill's quarterback Josh Allen. The
Speaker 3: defense is fantastic, of course, slowing down the Dolphins to
Speaker 3: only twenty points. So the Jags have their hands full
Speaker 3: this week at Spurs well to.
Speaker 4: Davis White, looks like he's out.
Speaker 5: He had an achilles non contact achilles in the game
Speaker 5: against Miami, one of their top corners. But that front
Speaker 5: seven is really good. You talked about, Josh Allen. I'm
Speaker 5: looking forward to it. It'll be our first time at Tottenham,
Speaker 5: because Tottenham Tottenham. It'll be our first time at Tottenham Tottenham.
Speaker 3: So the broadcast team, to explain what you're saying, did
Speaker 3: not travel in twenty twenty one when the team beat
Speaker 3: the Dolphins. The Jaguars won there on a field goal
Speaker 3: with the last secon. Yeah, we broadcast from EverBank, correct.
Speaker 5: Like we did we No, we didn't do all the
Speaker 5: games that year. The year before we did all the
Speaker 5: games from every bank. That one year, we didn't go.
Speaker 2: It's the only place we didn't travel to.
Speaker 5: We didn't travel because of COVID anyway, some of the
Speaker 5: restrictions and everything else.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to it. Is von Miller.
Speaker 3: He started practicing this week, okay, and I'm kind of
Speaker 3: curious about that.
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll play.
Speaker 2: I hope not.
Speaker 4: I don't think he will.
Speaker 3: Does that change any decision on the tackles? No matter
Speaker 3: what Von does.
Speaker 2: No, No, no, I don't think that. I don't think
Speaker 2: that can change your thinking. I think you got to
Speaker 2: do what's best for your football.
Speaker 5: Game plan might change if I'm oh big time, But
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, Vaughan's coming off of acl first game back.
Speaker 5: He's not going to be Von Miller. He's not gonna
Speaker 5: have the movement and everything.
Speaker 4: He'll still be good.
Speaker 2: We thought that with Jerry Rice too. I remember the
Speaker 2: first game back for Jerry Rice. I mean he's pointing
Speaker 2: at the knee like that.
Speaker 4: Remember that, right.
Speaker 5: I don't buy what I was telling you, Pass Rusher.
Speaker 5: It's different when you're an offensive player and you know
Speaker 5: where you're going and you are kind of dictating a
Speaker 5: defensive and in the style that Von Miller wants to
Speaker 5: play is one hundred reacting to that offensive tackle.
Speaker 4: That's what made Vaughn so great.
Speaker 5: He counter, he could set up things, and he's an
Speaker 5: amazing player.
Speaker 2: He's not a young man anymore. And he's not a
Speaker 2: young man.
Speaker 5: I don't think if he does play, he will be
Speaker 5: the Von Miller we've seen. Now do I think he'll
Speaker 5: get back to that Absolutely a couple of weeks he'll
Speaker 5: be rolling. But listen, having an ACL, never missed the game.
Speaker 5: I remember the first game.
Speaker 4: Don't feel like yourself doesn't mean you can't play well,
Speaker 4: but you do not feel like yourself.
Speaker 5: You're not the same player the first game back. I
Speaker 5: don't care what anyone say. How long did it take
Speaker 5: you to come back? I tore it January second and
Speaker 5: I started open the day in September. That was nine months,
Speaker 5: like eight and a half to surgery. Yeah, so I
Speaker 5: think eight and a half months from surgery to starting
Speaker 5: opening day.
Speaker 2: And I did mine in like eleven months, and I
Speaker 2: feel normal eleven and I didn't feel no far from it. No.
Speaker 2: I mean both Tony and I had isolated a CL. Yes,
Speaker 2: that's right, and you know mine was.
Speaker 4: And what that means isolated, no MCL, no cartilage damage.
Speaker 5: It was a clean tear of the a c L,
Speaker 5: so it's a little bit easier to come back from.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what Vaughn had if it was clean ACL,
Speaker 2: if he had other things, I have no idea.
Speaker 5: But regardless he if he does play first week practicing
Speaker 5: this week, he will not be the von Miller that
Speaker 5: we have seen.
Speaker 4: So I'm not worried about Vaughn.
Speaker 5: I'm worried about the rest of that front seven because
Speaker 5: without Vaughan they're the second ring defense in the NFL.
Speaker 4: This year.
Speaker 2: They got, first of all, like I said earlier, talented
Speaker 2: all three levels. Their linebacking group really good. I mean,
Speaker 2: you want to talk about really good, really good talent again,
Speaker 2: all three levels.
Speaker 3: And then on the other side, Jaguars defense against this Bill's offense,
Speaker 3: Josh Allen the quarterback triggering it. They've got receivers and
Speaker 3: how do you begin to defend.
Speaker 2: Well, let me just say this. The one great thing
Speaker 2: about Buffalo's offense. They're not balanced very well, you know,
Speaker 2: and that was one of the reasons why they they've
Speaker 2: been early outs is because they haven't been able to
Speaker 2: find balance as in offense. They don't they don't stay
Speaker 2: committed to the running game, which is surprising because I mean,
Speaker 2: that's a cold weather team. Most cold weather teams are saying, hey,
Speaker 2: look we got to be able to run the football
Speaker 2: in December. But Jeff, they don't do that. They're unbalanced
Speaker 2: the way that we wish they were opposite.
Speaker 5: I know, yeah, we wish they were better running, not
Speaker 5: as good. We stopped the run better, Yeah, Jeff. Balance
Speaker 5: games that's right. Jeff said it best earlier and you
Speaker 5: mentioned it when we played two years ago, I think
Speaker 5: it was, Yeah, and we won nine to six. Our
Speaker 5: Josh Allen dominated him, beat their Josh Allen.
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, and that was a monster game he was.
Speaker 2: I'm not putting at all.
Speaker 4: I'm not putting at all on our forty one Josh Allen,
Speaker 4: but he needs to have a monster game on defense
Speaker 4: to give us a chance, to give us our best
Speaker 4: chance of winning. We can win without it.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's all about Josh Allen, but him
Speaker 5: having that type of performance. He's our best defensive player
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 2: And he's a little banged up still, you know, the shoulder,
Speaker 2: the right shoulder, And there was a moment in a
Speaker 2: game he had collided on the running back and I
Speaker 2: believe it was for you, Lucan, and you could see
Speaker 2: that Josh was really slow to get up and he
Speaker 2: had that arm squad he squatted with catcher stands, you know,
Speaker 2: and that right elbow was resting on that right thigh
Speaker 2: and you could tell that it's not quite back yet.
Speaker 5: Jeff, Is that why he's rushing more from the right end. Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's what I.
Speaker 2: Thought, you know, because you want to have the power
Speaker 2: inside and side.
Speaker 4: Left hand yep. By the way, Josh Allen the Jaguars.
Speaker 3: Josh Allen in that game against the Bills twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: it was November seventh of that season at the Bank.
Speaker 3: He had eight tackles, a sack, two tackles for loss,
Speaker 3: an interception, and a fumble recovery.
Speaker 4: Pretty yeah, pretty big football, Pretty big game.
Speaker 2: If you had him in fantasy, I get because I
Speaker 2: guess you can have defensive players, annisy now he was
Speaker 2: you have.
Speaker 4: Defense players in fantasy. I thought, just defenses.
Speaker 3: I think there's individual really defensive I played those, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I either Josh Allen the quarterback for the Bills that day,
Speaker 3: thirty one to forty seven, two sixty four, no touchdowns
Speaker 3: to interception day, and he ran for fifty yards on
Speaker 3: five care I mean that's a bad day for him. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: numbers like that would be great. Sixty two point seven rating.
Speaker 3: By the way, we need that. That's the I mean,
Speaker 3: he is coming off.
Speaker 4: A hot game. I'm glad they won, yes, because.
Speaker 5: If they would have lost, they you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm glad the Jaguars won.
Speaker 4: Me too.
Speaker 2: In the fashion that they did.
Speaker 4: That's right, not perfect, not pretty.
Speaker 2: If they watched the film tomorrow, because today they were off.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow they watched the film, they're gonna look at that
Speaker 2: game and go, gosh, we gotta be better than this,
Speaker 2: you know. But they're happy about the win, you know,
Speaker 2: And so sometimes it's it's always good to be able
Speaker 2: to get lessons after a win, but it's really good
Speaker 2: to get lessons after a win that you sit there
Speaker 2: and when you really look at the film, you go,
Speaker 2: we got to be better than this this week, because
Speaker 2: you we know that we've got a good football team
Speaker 2: coming in here.
Speaker 3: Game coming up to thirty London time, nine thirty am Sunday,
Speaker 3: Tottenham Hot Spurs Stadium and the Jaguars second visit to
Speaker 3: that facility, this time against the Buffalo Bills. And the
Speaker 3: Bills have been to London before, of course they played
Speaker 3: the Jaguars here in that epic ball game at Wimbley.
Speaker 3: The Jaguars won that game and a back and forth
Speaker 3: fear had a big lead and then Blake's portals to
Speaker 3: some interceptions, the Bills.
Speaker 2: Rally the throw that he had at the end of
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 3: Alan hearns oh Man what a play, got his elbow
Speaker 3: in elbow equals Remember the feet that was.
Speaker 2: That was one of the Boat's greatest throw he's ever had.
Speaker 3: It really was a lot of fun, no doubt. So, uh,
Speaker 3: let's hope it's not. Well, just win the game. I
Speaker 3: don't care how it happens. I don't care if it's ugly,
Speaker 3: I don't care if it's a barn.
Speaker 2: Burner and thrilling. Get another win. That's all you got
Speaker 2: to do. You know, Look, we had that conversation with
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson PRID of the Kansas City game where you
Speaker 2: know he was openly talking about that game because of
Speaker 2: seeding reasons. Yes, okay, well if you're going to talk
Speaker 2: about it again City. That conversation still is in place
Speaker 2: for this game against the Buffalo Bills because they are
Speaker 2: viewed as one of the elite teams in the AFC,
Speaker 2: and if you're gonna end up having some home games
Speaker 2: and you want home games, this is a game you
Speaker 2: want to war.
Speaker 4: I think I disagree with that though, Jeff.
Speaker 5: I know you're saying if I'm Doug Peters that I'm
Speaker 5: not talking about CD's playoffs.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about either.
Speaker 4: You gotta play good football.
Speaker 2: We can talk about it, we can't.
Speaker 4: You gotta play good football and beat a good football team.
Speaker 3: Jeff Logaman, Tony Masseli. Thanks to our entire crew. I'm
Speaker 3: JP Shaddick. Thanks to you all for joining us.
Speaker 4: Tony guys, thank you so much. At the Pavilion End Pub.
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