WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: One

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<v Speaker 1>Hike and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals Booth. Podcast one is the Loneliest number addition as

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals try to get off to schneide and get

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<v Speaker 1>that elusive first win of the season this Sunday at

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<v Speaker 1>home against Jacksonville. Coming up, I'll be joined by my

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast partner Dave Lapham as we discuss what, if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals can do in order to run the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Will also touch on the impending return of AJ Green

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<v Speaker 1>and Minshee Mania as the Bengals try to shut down

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<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville's impressive rookie quarterback with a great mustache, Gardner Minshew.

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<v Speaker 1>My locker room conversation this week is with linebacker Leroy Reynolds,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows better than anybody else on the team what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to grind through a terrible start. He began

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<v Speaker 1>his career in Jacksonville back in twenty thirteen as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jags started oh and eight. In his second year,

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<v Speaker 1>they started oh and six, and then one and ten.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll discuss how a player gets through it, and in

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<v Speaker 1>this week's No The Faux segment, we'll get the lowdown

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<v Speaker 1>on the Jags from a guy who has been writing

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<v Speaker 1>about them throughout their history, Gene Frenette from the Florida

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<v Speaker 1>Times Union. All of that is straight ahead, But first,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest

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<v Speaker 1>from teams that no longer exist. I celebrated a birthday

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<v Speaker 1>this month, and my son gave me an awesome gift

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<v Speaker 1>a T shirt from the NBA team of my youth,

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<v Speaker 1>the Buffalo Braves. I'm guessing that some of you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know that Buffalo had an NBA team in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies, but it did before moving west end of

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<v Speaker 1>actually becoming the LA Clippers. The Clippers will be wearing

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Braves throwback jerseys at some point this year, and

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<v Speaker 1>they sell Braves merchandise on their website. It's awesome, as

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<v Speaker 1>is much of the gear that you can find online

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<v Speaker 1>from sports teams that no longer exist. Now let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to my conversation with Dave Lapham as we discuss the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>OZ and sixth start and what it's going to take

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<v Speaker 1>to get a win over Jacksonville on Sunday Lap. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals are only averaging fifty six point five rushing yards

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<v Speaker 1>per game. Last week in Baltimore, Lamar Jackson had fifty

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<v Speaker 1>seven after his first two runs. What if anything, can

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals do to get something out of their running game?

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<v Speaker 1>Tradeful Lamar Jackson. I mean, honestly, they're up. They're burning

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<v Speaker 1>the midnight oil right now trying to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's the problem that they have is and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not every snap. You know, people are gonna say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>seven eight in the box and they're doubling Tyler Boyd.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they don't have that many players. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>happening every single snap. But there are down in distances,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, conditions of a game where you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do something and they have the box loaded, the box crowded,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have to throw it and then they

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<v Speaker 1>double Tyler Boyd. Well, they don't have seven or eight

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<v Speaker 1>in the box when they're dubling Tyler Boyd. It's different circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>different down and distances. But the problem is that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have in my opinion, part of the issue could

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<v Speaker 1>be solved by having aj Green and John rossback because

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<v Speaker 1>if they can just be threats on the outside stretch

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<v Speaker 1>in the football field, it gives you more running lanes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it opens the box up, makes everybody play

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<v Speaker 1>play deeper, makes the linebackers play deeper off the line

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<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage, and then they have to take you know,

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<v Speaker 1>start taking drops. Gets the safeties out of there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, it's it's it's rush hour in there. It's congested,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of traffic in there, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line to boot isn't getting a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of push. So it's like running into the Great Wall

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<v Speaker 1>of China that has the extra bricks in it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh my gosh, man, it's like beating your

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<v Speaker 1>head up against the wall. And you know, you'll try, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's try inside zone and maybe okay, let's work the

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<v Speaker 1>outside zone. Okay, let's maybe run a gap play kind

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<v Speaker 1>of playing trying to, you know, see if we can

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<v Speaker 1>get them without a little bit. Nothing's working. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It's unbelievable, and I think it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>numbers game, you know, a matter of sometimes a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of bodies, the number of bodies that are there to

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<v Speaker 1>be blocked, and then guys aren't blocking them efficiently enough.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a recipe for disaster. And that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>running game is right now. It's disastrous. Lap Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals fired their defensive coordinator during the season, Tarall Austin,

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<v Speaker 1>because things were not going well on defense. Marvin Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>acted as his own defensive coordinator for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. This year it's lou Anna Romo and basically

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<v Speaker 1>not much has changed. What conclusion should we be drawing

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<v Speaker 1>about the Bengals defense, Well, if I'm a defensive player,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the mirror and saying it must be me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because they've they've made some changes, and not

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<v Speaker 1>only with coaches, but philosophical changes, you know, with those

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<v Speaker 1>coaches and even some schematic stuff. I mean, lou and

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<v Speaker 1>Rumo again has tried a lot of different things. Five

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<v Speaker 1>man defensive line, five defensive backs, with the five defensive

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<v Speaker 1>lineman only one linebacker on the field. He's had all

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<v Speaker 1>three linebackers on the field, two linebackers on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's running every every combination you can run

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<v Speaker 1>in the secondary nickel, dime, quarter, half dollar. He's running

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<v Speaker 1>every every coin you can run back there. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's penny whatever. You got a sack at Jeeah coin defenses.

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<v Speaker 1>There's such a thing. I'm thinking those coins are counterfeit.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's like it's crazy, but he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's right now. It's if he felt like

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<v Speaker 1>the football team on both sides of the ball. There's

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<v Speaker 1>not one thing that coaches can say, this is our identity.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when the times get tough, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go too. And the times has gotten tough,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can't go in anything. They don't have an

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<v Speaker 1>identity established on either side of the line of scrimmage yet,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is a tough tough thing for a coaching

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<v Speaker 1>staff when you're putting together a game plan, and man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why a big part of the reason they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>won a football game yet. In crunch time, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we got this. Now we're gonna We're gonna close it out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we're doing, this is who we are.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals get a taste of Minshee mania this Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>Gardner Minshew come into town. The rookie quarterback drafted in

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth round by Jacksonville. He was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>the backup under Nick Foles, and then Foles broke his

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<v Speaker 1>collarbone in Week one. Gardner Minshew's passer rating is identical

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<v Speaker 1>to Tom Brady's. At this point of his rookie year,

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<v Speaker 1>Minshew is playing very, very sound football. The thing that

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<v Speaker 1>impresses me most about him Dan just two interceptions, tied

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<v Speaker 1>for six fewest in the in the NFL. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>nine touchdown passes, tied for leventh in the NFL. That

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<v Speaker 1>plus seven touchdown interception ratio is gonna work, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's got better than four to one ratio.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to like that about him. And against

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina he was twenty six for forty four three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy four yards two touchdowns against the Panthers, who

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<v Speaker 1>have a good defensive football team, so they leaned on him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in those on that occasion, and he has

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<v Speaker 1>run the ball. I mean it's not designed runs like

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen, you know with Lamar Jackson, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when he's in trouble, he has tucked it in. Run

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one times one hundred and twenty five yards six

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<v Speaker 1>yards per twenty one yard rush. So you have to

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<v Speaker 1>still respect him. You know, you can't over rush him,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't rush by him, you can't distort your rush lane,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because he's going to be looking for those

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<v Speaker 1>type of things like guys coming right out of college

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<v Speaker 1>do if a couple of reds aren't there, my next

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<v Speaker 1>backs option is to try to get something, try to

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<v Speaker 1>get with it with my legs. I've heard that he's

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<v Speaker 1>squats five fifty. I mean he's he's a he's a

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<v Speaker 1>strong kid. His dad is a like a bodybuilder type dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a big workout guy. And Minshew's no joke.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Minshew was going to go to Alabama and

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to be a coach. So he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Alabama and learn under the great Sabman. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they said, you know, why don't you don't

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<v Speaker 1>you hit to Washington State here, come out and play

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<v Speaker 1>out here and lead the country in passing. He almost did.

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<v Speaker 1>He led the pack twelve in passing. But h I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you it's a heck of a story. Really is

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<v Speaker 1>a heck of a story. And this kid when the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity presented itself. He has stepped up big time. We

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<v Speaker 1>know the Bengals have had trouble stopping sideline to sideline

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<v Speaker 1>running games. Well that's not the challenge this week. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a battering ram coming right at him in Leonard Fournette.

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<v Speaker 1>No question, Leonard Fournette is l lodo. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>is a guy that is just gonna try to run

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<v Speaker 1>you over. There's there's not a whole lot of wiggle

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<v Speaker 1>to him, but he when he hits creases, he hits.

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<v Speaker 1>He hits some violently, he hits some hard. Hit an

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<v Speaker 1>eighty one yard run so far this season, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he's um. He had a game against the Denver Broncos

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<v Speaker 1>that's the best rushing game in the league so far

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<v Speaker 1>this season. He had twenty nine rushes, tied for most

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<v Speaker 1>in a single game for twenty and twenty five yards,

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<v Speaker 1>the best rushing total in a game this season. So

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<v Speaker 1>he has another another hundred yard rushing game against Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three carries, one hundred and eight yards in a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's capable, obviously, and his five hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>four yards a third best in the NFL. He's averaging

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<v Speaker 1>over five yards of carry five point one. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>are giving up five point three per carry, So they

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<v Speaker 1>got their work cut out for them in handling Leonard Fournette.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they don't, I mean, Fournette makes life a

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<v Speaker 1>lot easier for a young quarterback like Minshew. And if

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<v Speaker 1>they start gashing the Bengals running the football, Minshew is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a good football game. If they can

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<v Speaker 1>somehow control Leonard Fournette and not let him run crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>Minshew will have more difficulty solving and handling the room

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<v Speaker 1>was defense, that's the bottom line, that's the fact of

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<v Speaker 1>life in the NFL. Last week saying it's apparently shut

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<v Speaker 1>down Jacksonville by playing two deep safeties that gave Gardner

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<v Speaker 1>Minshew trouble. But can the Bengals do that considering how

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<v Speaker 1>much trouble they're having stopping the run, that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the big key. Then the onus is on the

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<v Speaker 1>front seven. You know, how well are you going to play?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Jacksonville Jaguar's offensive line is big and

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<v Speaker 1>physical like they've been facing and at this at this juncture,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm Luna Rouma, I don't know how much confidence

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<v Speaker 1>I have doing that. You know, I'm not. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be an interesting to see how much two DP

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<v Speaker 1>does play because at this point in time, they've been gashed,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've been gashed by this style of offense. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been gashed by, you know, the Houdini mystery magic. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, don't know, they don't trust their eyes. Their

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<v Speaker 1>eyes are betraying them because these offenses are doing so

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<v Speaker 1>much with personnel informations and motion and all that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. I think Jacksonville may be more like Seattle was.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Jacksonville made line up and just say here

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<v Speaker 1>we are, come get us. And the Banks played well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know against Jacksonville. So you know, hopefully h they

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<v Speaker 1>get a break from all these all these college type

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<v Speaker 1>offenses that they've been facing, with these quarterbacks that are, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the basically the poster child for these type

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<v Speaker 1>of offenses from an execution standpoint, running him and go

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<v Speaker 1>back to a more traditional, conventional NFL quote, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>style offense. We'll see what happens. Jermaine Pratt got increased

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<v Speaker 1>playing time last week and made some plays in the

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<v Speaker 1>run game, but man, he struggled trying to cover tight

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<v Speaker 1>ends and tight ends that, you know, I mean, Andrews

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<v Speaker 1>does not. He's not a blazer, you know when you

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<v Speaker 1>say the name Mark Andrews or he's like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big boy that can run. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like when you when you see him, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how does he get open as much as he does?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he doesn't have you blazing speed, but he understands

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<v Speaker 1>the game of football. He understands leverage and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>they schemed him open, and I think part of it

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<v Speaker 1>was Pratt biting on. I don't know what he was

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<v Speaker 1>seeing what he was biting on, but he was I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a simple, you know, a simple like out move

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<v Speaker 1>that seemed like Pratt was in trail position by about

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<v Speaker 1>five yards. And he can run, so it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>physical part of it. He's just I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>he was looking at. But you know the one I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of when he ran the little out route to

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline and then just took it up the football field,

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<v Speaker 1>Pratt was nowhere near him, nowhere near him. AJ Green

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<v Speaker 1>started practicing in Pad's last week. I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to play this Sunday against Jacksonville, but at this

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<v Speaker 1>point I'm thinking why not just wait until after the buye.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's the likelihood that Aj Green is going

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<v Speaker 1>to help you beat the Rams in London anyway? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I guess it's I've been saying that for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. I felt like, you know, if it's at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, why not take the extra week and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you know it's like, okay, is he close? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not be positive about it? And you know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times players that are coming off an injury

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<v Speaker 1>like he is, a lot of times training staffs and

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<v Speaker 1>medical people will say, Okay, when you're ready, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to wait another week to be positive you're ready. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's been the philosophy I think here in Cincinnati with

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<v Speaker 1>every injured player that's ever been injured, I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>don't players don't come back fast here compared to other

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<v Speaker 1>places in the league. So I think that's the mentality overall.

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<v Speaker 1>And a guy like Aj wouldn't shock me whatsoever if

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<v Speaker 1>if we were a boardline or questionable at all. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the temptations huge, because, like we said, if he comes

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<v Speaker 1>out in the football field, everything changes. The running came

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<v Speaker 1>will to mark my words. I mean, there'll be better

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<v Speaker 1>lanes to run the football, other receivers will have more

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to make catches because everything changes, the entire configuration.

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<v Speaker 1>The defense takes a tilt toward a player the caliber

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<v Speaker 1>of aj Green, So there is a huge temptation to

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<v Speaker 1>get him back, but it'd be fool harder to bring

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<v Speaker 1>him back so too early, and he has a setback,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he's you know, he's done for the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Potentially he hasn't even played a full game for you

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<v Speaker 1>if he gets hurt in that one game. So it

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<v Speaker 1>would it would not stun me whatsoever if if he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play until after the bye week. But knowing him,

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<v Speaker 1>he really wants to play. I'm sure the coaches obviously

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<v Speaker 1>are very h they're panting to get him back out

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<v Speaker 1>on the football field, but you certainly you know the

0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.360
<v Speaker 1>situation they're in. I mean, if you're four and two

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<v Speaker 1>right now and you're fighting for your division supremacy, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, but your own six, you know, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why why are you bringing him back potentially too early?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you doing that? So it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how it all plays out. This offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line might have been good if everybody was healthy from

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, of the Year. Johnah Williams had left tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>Cordy Glenn at left guard. If Billy Price didn't begin

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<v Speaker 1>training camp with plantar fasciitis, maybe things would have gone

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<v Speaker 1>better for him. But that's not the reality that we're

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<v Speaker 1>living in. And now there have been more injuries that

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<v Speaker 1>are piling up. John Miller got injured early in the

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<v Speaker 1>game last week. Andre Smith has been out people listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this know the a litany of injuries they're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>How much has the lack of continuity upfront taking that

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line down another notch? It always plays a part.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've said for years now. You know, an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line when it's performing well is like making a fish.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even think about it. You just curl your forefingers,

0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.880
<v Speaker 1>wrap your thumb. It just happens, you know, spontaneously, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's unspoken word communication when an offensive line is playing

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<v Speaker 1>at a good level with each other, understanding what the

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<v Speaker 1>other guy is going to do in certain situations. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to overcommunicate verbally. You can do it

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<v Speaker 1>just by you know, body language and little things that

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<v Speaker 1>you that you use to communicate. So that that's tough,

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say that from day one, not only

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<v Speaker 1>of training camp but OTAs, Jim Turner's big thing was

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has to play multiple positions for this very reason.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was running a lot of combinations. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>every single workout, he was lining guys up in different spots,

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<v Speaker 1>every single preseason game, landing guys up in different spots

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<v Speaker 1>for this very thing. But with that said, game snaps,

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<v Speaker 1>game speed, you know, the only way you can get

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of things is to do it over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again together with the same people. And

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<v Speaker 1>when those people are switching around and it's musical chairs

0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.360
<v Speaker 1>up there, it adds to the challenge, There is no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt about it. It adds to the challenge. It just

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<v Speaker 1>there's no substitute for on task, you know, game experience,

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<v Speaker 1>there's none. Pro football is a hard sport to play

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<v Speaker 1>when things are going well. How do they keep it

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<v Speaker 1>fun when a team is l and six. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>big challenge, you know. Because the O and eighth season

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<v Speaker 1>that I have referred to multiple times, I will say

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<v Speaker 1>that my sanctuary was still to come down to Spinney

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<v Speaker 1>Field with my teammates because we were all suffering the

0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.040
<v Speaker 1>same damn thing, and we were all you know, misery

0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.480
<v Speaker 1>loves company, you know, so you come down and commiserate

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<v Speaker 1>and okay, and we talk about how how are we

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<v Speaker 1>gonna how are we gonna get off this night? What

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<v Speaker 1>are we gonna do? You know, let's figure out how

0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.280
<v Speaker 1>we can get something done, because, like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to see anybody else, you know, I barely

0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.520
<v Speaker 1>want to see my wife and kids. I was so embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 1>But um so, you know I'd literally that whole that

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<v Speaker 1>whole season, even when we started winning some football games,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was absentee in terms of the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>I was nowhere to be found. I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>witness protection program. But um it is it still is

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<v Speaker 1>your because you know, if you start listening to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys talk about it all the time. The outside noise

0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.760
<v Speaker 1>can be can add pressure. I mean it can just

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<v Speaker 1>it can ruin your life. It really can, and it

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<v Speaker 1>will make you maybe do some things you might regret doing.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to do that to people, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of people don't have much sensitivity for

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<v Speaker 1>how you might be feeling, that's for sure, because they're frustrated.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't understand how frustrated you are. And you can't

0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.840
<v Speaker 1>give people knuckle sandwiches. That's not gonna that's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play well. So you have to be smart about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the best way to do it is to avoid

0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.879
<v Speaker 1>that those kind of confrontations, those kind of things. So

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<v Speaker 1>it is, it's hard, but it is still the sanctuary.

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<v Speaker 1>So we would try to figure out things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to do, whether it's a you know, offensive lineman playing

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<v Speaker 1>a touch football game and you know, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>lineman's obviously a quarterback, you know, or whatever, whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>case may be, just try to lighten it up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. But you knew that you better get your

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<v Speaker 1>notes to the grindstone as quickly as you possibly can

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<v Speaker 1>because there was work to be done. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the sad the sad thing is sometimes too as far

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<v Speaker 1>as an offensive line's concerned, when the team is struggling,

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<v Speaker 1>and even when the team is playing well, offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>play a lot of times when it's when it's at

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<v Speaker 1>least acceptable, acceptable to great is not a huge difference.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're watching tape, it's like you're getting the job

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<v Speaker 1>done and plays are being made. Sometimes like you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>the job done, plays aren't being made, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line play is not hugely different on tape.

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<v Speaker 1>But somebody has to make somebody miss, somebody has to

0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:07.320
<v Speaker 1>make a great cat, somebody has somebody has to do

0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.440
<v Speaker 1>something to light a fire. But there are times also

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<v Speaker 1>when you watch an offensive line playing, it's like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody took their turn on getting their butts

0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.680
<v Speaker 1>royally kicked, and that stands out like a store thimb

0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.040
<v Speaker 1>as well. So I'm sure they're experiencing all of it

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. By the way, our adjacent cubicles at Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Brown Stadium, that's my sanctuary these days. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get to the keys to victory this Sunday, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>get off the schneide we say coffin nails bang bang

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<v Speaker 1>bang at the end of the game because they do

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<v Speaker 1>what against Jacksonville. Well, first thing they have to do,

0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Dan is somehow figure it away to run the football

0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and stop Jacksonville from from dominating the football game playing keepaway.

0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jackson's going to look at exactly what Baltimore did,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the stats, and then the film's going to

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<v Speaker 1>support it. Pound the ball, play keepaway. That's what they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to do. Minimize the opportunities the Bengals have

0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and four Nett's going to be the big, the big deal.

0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.160
<v Speaker 1>You got to control that guy. Five hundred and eighty

0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:06.159
<v Speaker 1>four yards third in the league, five point one to rush.

0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.840
<v Speaker 1>He's also capable, you know, catching the ball out of

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<v Speaker 1>the backfield seven hundred and seventy three scrimmage yards, third

0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 1>best in the league. So the Bengals are thirty second

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL running the football yards per game thirty second,

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<v Speaker 1>are defensive allowed yards allowed per game, thirty second in

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<v Speaker 1>yards allowed per rush five point three. Offensively fifty six

0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and a half is dead last. Three point one is

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<v Speaker 1>thirty first. So overall, the Bengals are minus one hundred

0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.679
<v Speaker 1>and twenty eight rushing yards a game a football field

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<v Speaker 1>and a quarter and minus two point two average rush

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<v Speaker 1>per attempt minus two point two dead lasts in league.

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<v Speaker 1>Minus und twenty eight yards a game, dead last in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. You can't allow that to continue to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Jacksonville is going to try to do. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>ball security, you know, Jacksonville, they've only got two takeaways,

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<v Speaker 1>tied for the fewest in the league. They won an

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<v Speaker 1>interception tied for second fewest because Denver and half one

0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.159
<v Speaker 1>yet or Arizona doesn't have one yet, that's who doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a fumble recovery tied for fewists in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Two takes amazing with that defense that they have. In

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<v Speaker 1>the last two games, the Bengals have only given the

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<v Speaker 1>ball up one time, so it's been even in the

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<v Speaker 1>turnover ratio. There were no turnovers in the Arizona game.

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<v Speaker 1>Each team had won in the Baltimore game. So ball

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<v Speaker 1>security is going to be a big deal in that

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:24.000
<v Speaker 1>football game. And then inside the twenty gonna call it

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<v Speaker 1>the red zone for the defense. Red zone for the defense,

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<v Speaker 1>how about green zone for the offense? I mean red stop?

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<v Speaker 1>How about green Why don't you go do something in

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<v Speaker 1>the red zone in the scoring zone for the offensive

0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:39.480
<v Speaker 1>football team? They're thirty one point three percent scoring touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>in the red zone now is dead last five touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>in sixteen opportunities, five tds, thirtieth four times they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>scored a point, tied for fifth worst scenario there. Jacksonville's

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<v Speaker 1>offense has struggled as well, thirty eight point nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ninth in the NFL, but they've only not scored

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.560
<v Speaker 1>points one time. Their second in the NFL in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of scoring points when you get in the red zone. Defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>both teams have done a lot better. I mean, Cincinnati's

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<v Speaker 1>sixth best in the NFL touchdown percentage in Jacksonville's fifth best.

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals three times no points tied for tenth best in

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<v Speaker 1>the league, Jacksonville four times no points allowed, tied for

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<v Speaker 1>sixth best in the NFL. So they've played good red

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:23.639
<v Speaker 1>zone defense both teams have, and neither team has played

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:26.959
<v Speaker 1>very good scoring zone offense. It's been read and they

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<v Speaker 1>have to turn the traffic signal to Green. Who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to be the traffic cop and turn

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<v Speaker 1>the traffic signal to Green in the scoring zone and

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<v Speaker 1>score some damn touchdowns. Green means go, yes, let's get

0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it done this Sunday against Jacksonville. Thanks Lap. There are

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<v Speaker 1>two undefeated teams left in the NFL, the Patriots and

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers, and there are two winless teams left

0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, the Bengals and Dolphins. Linebacker Leroy Reynolds

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<v Speaker 1>was with one of the undefeated teams in training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>the forty nine ers, and is now playing for the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to him in the locker room this week,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in the locker room with Bengals linebacker le Roy

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Reynolds in training camp with San Francisco and then becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a Bengal in week two? Do you have all of

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<v Speaker 1>your stuff? Are you still living out of a suitcase

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<v Speaker 1>after a month? I mean, well I was transitioning, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still transitioning, but yeah, just you know, suitcasing, it

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<v Speaker 1>bag still in the truck. We're talking to Leroy Reynolds.

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<v Speaker 1>You've played for five different teams, six if you include

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco from training camp this year. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>go about fitting in with a new team in a

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<v Speaker 1>new city. Just being myself, always being myself, being true

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.800
<v Speaker 1>to will always been as a player as a leader.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of carry that and you know where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wherever I am, just take that with me and

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<v Speaker 1>try to leave as ample and be the best me

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<v Speaker 1>I can be. So just being myself. We're visiting little

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<v Speaker 1>Roy Reynolds. San Francisco is off to a great start.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see that coming when you were with that

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<v Speaker 1>team during training camp? You know for sure? I think

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, they did a great job competing, did

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<v Speaker 1>a great job getting better each and every day, So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just a reflection of the work they

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<v Speaker 1>put in, and it was obvious like, well, you know,

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:17.879
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of work getting put in. So

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<v Speaker 1>you see those guys being playing well, being successful, getting

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.399
<v Speaker 1>after it. So yeah, I noticed that. Definitely. One of

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<v Speaker 1>your previous stops was Atlanta and you played in the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl for the Falcons team that made it in

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the twenty sixteen season. My broadcast partner Dave Lapham was

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bengals for a Super Bowl team and he

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<v Speaker 1>describes the feelings like he felt like he could lift

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the stadium when he ran out there for the starting lineups.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the adrenaline rush and what was going

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:47.639
<v Speaker 1>through your mind? Yeah, and I was a real feeling.

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.199
<v Speaker 1>I still remember the lights flashing off a kickoff. You know,

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.639
<v Speaker 1>as a kid, you always see that on TV, you know,

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the lights flicking from everybody taking picture. So I still

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.640
<v Speaker 1>remember that. I just remember how the grass felt, how

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<v Speaker 1>good it felt. I just felt like the right day

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<v Speaker 1>probably gives you the overwhelming desire to get back. Oh, definitely, definitely, definitely,

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>that's definitely what I want to do. Especially in my career.

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 1>A lot of guys aren't able to reach that point.

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:13.959
<v Speaker 1>Something grateful enough to be able to reach there. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to go back for sure. We're talking

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 1>to linebacker Leroy Reynolds. So you've had the high of

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.119
<v Speaker 1>going to a super Bowl with the Falcons and you

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<v Speaker 1>also experience with the Bengals are going through right now

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:26.360
<v Speaker 1>early in your career with Jacksonville as a rookie, you're

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<v Speaker 1>on a team that started the season oh and eight.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you fight through that? UM and just having pride?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what we do? I think and all guys do,

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 1>all the guys in the locker room do. I think? UM?

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 1>Just being UM at a level where you know we

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>can compete, get better, and and and and win games. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's the mentality. Uh. There's so many

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<v Speaker 1>factors that play into it. But I think they're really

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 1>good teams that I've played on. It starts with veteran leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>From the day you arrived here. You've been a core

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<v Speaker 1>member of the special teams. What are the qualities that

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>a great Special Teams player has to have? UM spend

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>a competitor, UM, willing to go out and play the

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>tough down. UM. You know you're usually running sixty seventy

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 1>yards on the play, um, all outspeed, and you're usually

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>battle somebody while you're doing it. So it's just one

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>of those gut checks. Um, you just gotta out out

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 1>will the man. UM. So for me, that's always been

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:28.360
<v Speaker 1>my my pedigree, being able to out wield the man

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and out work them to you know, to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the ball or prevent him from getting to the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>So I try to take pride in that, UM and

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.239
<v Speaker 1>just try to get better. Coach Darren's done a good

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<v Speaker 1>job just implementing me, getting me acclimated, and I'm still

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:44.639
<v Speaker 1>just getting better learning the system of playing around, you know,

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>with the guys that I have. UM plays a great

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>special teams player. He's done it for a while, and

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>just from his leadership he's been, you know, welcome me

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<v Speaker 1>in and allowed me to kind of, you know, do

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<v Speaker 1>my thing as well. Final question for linebacker Leroy Reynolds.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a saying on your Twitter profile and I

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<v Speaker 1>seen you wearing a T shirt with this hunt as well,

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 1>All Gas No Breaks. Explain the meaning behind all gas

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>No Breaks? Um, Well, it's more so again like the mentality, UM,

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>it's about effort, always mean about effort. It's between you

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and you learn that at a young age. So for me, it's,

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, go all out every chance you get. Play

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>with effort, play with passion, play with energy and be

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of um give all of yourself. So for me,

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>it's just the possibility of going all out now holding

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<v Speaker 1>back and emptying your tank. So all gas, no bricks,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your time. Best the Fluck this week, I'm problem.

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Thank you appreciate. That's Leroy Reynolds. Now time for this

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<v Speaker 1>week's Know the Faux Interview as we do a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive into the Bengals upcoming opponent with somebody that knows

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>the team. This week it's columnist Gane for Nette from

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<v Speaker 1>the Florida Times Union. You can find him online at

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<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville dot com. He joined Lapping Me on the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>Game Plan Show and we started with the big news

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<v Speaker 1>out of Jacksonville this week, the trade of Jalen Ramsey

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<v Speaker 1>to the La Rams for two first round draft picks

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 1>and a fourth I asked Jean a two part question,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Jags did the right thing and how the

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>locker room reacted to the trade. The first part, I'd

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>say absolutely, I mean Dalen was becoming not necessarily a

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>big distraction, but I would say a headache to both

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the coaching staff and the front office. From the coaching

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>staff standpoint, just a limbo status nees week of not

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<v Speaker 1>knowing whether he would play or not play his back

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the element had become somewhat of a little bit of

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a charade, not that he didn't have a back intrigue,

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<v Speaker 1>but whether he was really going all out to recover

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>from it, to get himself ready to play. And as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the locker room goes, now, they were they

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>were all alling the line. You know, you know they

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>can deal with this. It's not a big faction. You know,

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>they understand part of the the business, what have you. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that some degree to has to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of relief. I think it's find me

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a resolution to all that. Do you think the problem

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<v Speaker 1>um that Ramsey had was Tom Coughlin and not Doug

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Marone or Tom Coughlin and Doug Marone or not Tom coflin,

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.479
<v Speaker 1>but Doug Marone. I mean what what where was his problem?

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>What was Jalen Ramsey's problem? Did he ever declare what

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>his uh his big issue was? Well? I think everybody

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>it seems to feel like it was with Tom Coughlin

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<v Speaker 1>more than anything else. To listen to. Dylan Ramsey's a

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>fantastic player, but he's also an impulsive, narcissistic off the

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>door prayer is right. As I wrote for the Morph paper,

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>he's the second g Stiva behind Antonio Brown. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you create some of the things that Dalen has created,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's been a lot of stuff over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of three and a half years, you know, this kind

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>of stuff fills up and I think the la rams

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of time. I'm going to find out

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>what the Jaguar found out, and that is Dalen Ramsey.

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<v Speaker 1>As great a player as he is, that he will help.

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>He will help your team on the field, also provides

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>at a off the field, and you know he kind

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>of wears you out. He wears coasting staff out and

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>wears the media out. Where's everybody out? Our guest is

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Jean Frenette, a columnist from Jacksonville. If Ramsey has been

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<v Speaker 1>a pain in the New York in the you know

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 1>what so far this year, Gardner Minshew has been the

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>opposite one of the great stories in the NFL so

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<v Speaker 1>far this season. Have you seen enough of them Jean

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<v Speaker 1>to have a strong opinion as to whether he is

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<v Speaker 1>for real or well, I guess, I guess My question

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to you is, what do you define as for real?

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>If you define it as a guy who can be

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<v Speaker 1>a sut starter in the NFL, I would say, yeah,

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess I would say somebody that you would want

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>to be your quarterback long term. Well, I don't know

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>if the sample size is big ing up yet for that,

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>but he definitely has been far more impressive than than

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I or anybody else they anticipated he would be. Now,

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>last week, you know, he had sort of his you know,

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>his kryptonite game in the New Orleans Saints found ways

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>to just really keep him from ever getting into any

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of a rhythm, and he didn't get a whole

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of help from his receivers in that regard. They

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>did as just a whole lot what the safecist is doing.

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure the Cincinnati Bengals this week are going

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>to try to do some of the same things the

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Saints did, which would play a lot of Twoman and

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>safety help over the top and forced the Jaguars to

0:31:56.360 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>receivers to adjust, you know, try to find the holes

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>over the middle as they called them. But you know,

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the NFL is a test from big sex games. Some

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>weeks you have, some week you have it. You get

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>the better of your opponent of the weeks, the better

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>of you. And we'll see how Gardner meant to react

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>coming off the game where the better of him? One

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>more question on the Jalen Ramsey um scenario. Do you

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>do you anticipate any uh after shock and during the

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>course of this whole thing, a leader like Calais Campbell,

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>where was he? Where was his stance on this? I mean,

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>did he ever have any any kind of discussion with

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Ramsey that you're aware of, or did did he

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>try to you know exactly, you know, appease uh and uh?

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, be a buffer in the situation between

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Ramsey and the front office and the coaching staff

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>or did he just let it play out? No, players

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>do that. They just go interfol. Players respect another player's

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 1>face when it comes to business off the field. I

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>mean they just do. I mean it is not the

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>player's flight to get in to be some sort of

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>intermediary to bluing the front office and a teammate. That's

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>about their job and they don't want that. I mean,

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>that's something that they know is out of bounds. You know,

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 1>so did so did Jalen Ramsey? Did Jalen Rant I

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>don't mean to couch, but did Jalen Ramsey Uh at

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>that point not take anything out on the teammates? I mean,

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>what was what was the teammate's posture in this whole thing?

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>They just said, Okay, we understand you want to go

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>go ahead. We're not going to have any issue with

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing here to disrupt our team. Yeah, that's

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 1>pretty much it. Because listen, regardless of what drama might

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>be going on with a star player in the team,

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>all those two other guys that locker room have a

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.719
<v Speaker 1>job to do. They have they have film to study,

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>they have preparations to do from the next game. Getting

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>caught up in somebody else's drama, it's not gonna do

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>this dem any good and it's not gonna do the

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>team any good. So you know, there was no there

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>was no like, you know, interception on the part of

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:17.399
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Ramsey. This was strictly jailing acting out on his own.

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 1>He's a very impulsive guy and once he had it

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>in his head that he wanted out there was not

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be anything to use mine and if not, probably

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>a coincidence because forty eight hours after he didn't play

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>in a game was the older was expected it to play.

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.399
<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, he wass traded and shipped out right.

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.879
<v Speaker 1>Gene Fournette from the Florida Times Union is our guest Gene.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to me when people talk about the best

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>running backs in the NFL, they rarely mentioned Leonard Fournette.

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Should he be in the conversation. His stats this year

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>are awesome? Um, yeah, he has to some degree out.

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna make I'm

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>not gonna make him an elite NFL back yet. I

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 1>don't think. I don't think he has the always has

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the instinct and the cutting ability and things like that

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 1>of an elite NFL running back. But if you give

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 1>him a hole to get through and to let him

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:17.720
<v Speaker 1>get in the second level, then yeah, uh it's great.

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 1>But I don't see. You know, even though the yards

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 1>per carry is much better than it has said his

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>path and he's clearly such for focused and better conditions

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>coping getting the season, I don't think he's gonna lead

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 1>NFL back. I do think he can be a very

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>good one month. Looking at Fournette's numbers, you had a

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<v Speaker 1>huge game against Denver two in twenty five yards, most

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL in a single game. He had another

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eight yards against Carolina. So he has

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<v Speaker 1>a big game and then maybe not so much. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it the lack of consistency that you have an issue with? Two?

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean a DJ Chark the same way he'll

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<v Speaker 1>have He has a couple of big games, but then not,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on on a weekly basis. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a yo yo thing. Is that? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>an issue in your mind? Or are you okay with that? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think DJ Shart is a yelo at all.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been pretty good all year until this past week.

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<v Speaker 1>Letter from that's a little bit of a different story,

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<v Speaker 1>of course. You know letters much more can uh? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>dependent on the offensive line creating those planes for him.

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<v Speaker 1>A receiver, you know, you're not so much dependent on

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<v Speaker 1>an entire judic to help you look to it. You're

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<v Speaker 1>dependent on a running game though, so you can have

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to get opened down the field. That can

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<v Speaker 1>help you, that's for sure. But I mean DJ Chart

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<v Speaker 1>got got double teams pretty consistently last year for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time all chiever. So if a decent wants to

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<v Speaker 1>take away a receiver, they can do that. The question

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<v Speaker 1>is can the team make the decents pay for for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, stating a lot of you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of players the way of one of one guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Jaguars weren't able to do that last week. But

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<v Speaker 1>if they do that another week, then maybe then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>DJA Shock will getting more opportunities we had last week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when you running back like Fournette and a receiver like Chart, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you just count the number of players in the box. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can put eight in the box and stuff Fournette.

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<v Speaker 1>Chark's gonna eat. I gotta I gotta double Chart, so

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<v Speaker 1>I can't put it in the box. Fournette should eat.

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<v Speaker 1>So they should play off each other. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have eaten the box and double the receiver and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have many players out in the football field.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean those guys should, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>benefit off each other depending on what the defense tries

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<v Speaker 1>to take away. It'll be interesting to see. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a count the box. Yeah, well, let's not put

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Shark in the same category as like a Julio's

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<v Speaker 1>Jones or or put Leonard Fournette in the same category

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<v Speaker 1>as an Elliott Just yeah, okay, they're good. They're very

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<v Speaker 1>good good receivers. BJ Chark has improved over last year

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<v Speaker 1>more than anybody I've ever seen twenty five years covering

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<v Speaker 1>the Jaguars from first years. The seven year DJ Stark

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<v Speaker 1>uprovement has been phenomenal and letters much better all of

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<v Speaker 1>mean he was last year. The other parts of the

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<v Speaker 1>offense for the offense of mind walking together as they

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<v Speaker 1>meeting those opportunities at that points sisted the Jags so far,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got a quarterback kids who I have to

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<v Speaker 1>commend and done really well. Let's not forget that, and

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of different lousions the game that they won

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the Denver Broncos game, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>one or two points look at the Bengals, Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, I mean could be huckdown right, Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know it's lost by a point, three points,

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<v Speaker 1>four points, and six points. So you know four of

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<v Speaker 1>their losses are by a touchdown less than a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>You may let me ask you this, how are people

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<v Speaker 1>running the football for five point two yards? Because the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals at five point three yards a kind of staggering

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I mean, they're a bunch of game, but

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<v Speaker 1>five points to a care I mean, what in your eye,

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<v Speaker 1>what's been the problem with stopping the run? Well, they

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<v Speaker 1>had one really horrific game at Carolina. Okay, give up

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and eighty five yards jushing and McCaffrey went

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<v Speaker 1>off on them, and so that's us the numbers a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. But the dec has been talk about incomesistence.

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<v Speaker 1>This decents has been you know, jekylin high the entire season.

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<v Speaker 1>It has three really either terrific ors to that game.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't do one week to the next, what

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<v Speaker 1>decents you're gonna get? That's part of the problem right there.

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