1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: It is now officially open. 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: This is Draft Season presented by Moody's. Moodies is a 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: proud partner of the New York Giants, Decode Risks, Unlock Opportunity, 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 2: Learn Moore at moodies dot com. It's our first draft 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: season of the year. Very excited the college football season 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: kicking off this weekend, and joining us is a guy 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: that joins us every year here on draft season right 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: around this time. Bruce Feldman from the Athletic in Fox Sports. 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: He publishes his twenty twenty five Freaks List every year 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: around this time, and now he's here to talk about him. 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: And now we welcome on our guest. He is from Fox, 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: he is from the Athletic. No one covers college football 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: better than him, the one and only Bruce Feldan. 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Bruce, how are you man? 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: Great to be honest with you, John, I'm doing good. 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: It's great to see you. 17 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: And our annual tradition, now your Freaks list always comes 18 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: out in August. It is out, and I think what 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: struck me about it? And we'll get to the guy 20 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: that was number one on you list in a second. 21 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: A lot of large men at the top of this list. 22 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: Bruce and I feel like that's going to represent what 23 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: this upcoming draft class looks like a little bit too. 24 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: A lot of big guys up front on offense and defense. 25 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Caden Proctor is an enormous guy. He's number two 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: on the list. He's a left tackle at Alabama. He's 27 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: six seven threes. He's basically three seventy. I was just 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: down until school this last week. I mean I had 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: him at three sixty six. I'm told he's a little 30 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: north of three seventy. Super strong. He's a guy who 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: bench presses, you know, well over five hundred pounds, squats 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: a ton almost literally, and power cleans over four hundred pounds. 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: But the numbers that kind of blew me away. Well 34 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: when I found out he vertical jumped thirty two inches 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: of this offseason and broad jumps you know nine and 36 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: a half feet, you know, nine to five. Those are 37 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: crazy numbers. And put the vertical jump in context. There 38 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: are five receivers who are at this year's NFL combine 39 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: who either broad jumped just that high or didn't even 40 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: get as high as Procter did. And one of them 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: Lejhontey Wester, who's a rookie kick returner and added like 42 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: an eighty five yard punt return two weeks ago. He 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: played at CU he jumped the same as as Proctor, 44 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: and Proctor is almost two is two hundred pounds heavier 45 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: than him. 46 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: Is Procter one of these guys, Bruce, that we're going 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: to be talking in the spring where teams are going 48 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: to be saying, look, we want you to lose twenty pounds. 49 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: I know you had him in your story about twenty 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: six percent body fat. Or is this a guy that 51 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: can legitimately stay out at left tackle and carry that 52 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: kind of weight. 53 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: My guess is he will probably people will want him 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: closer to three fifty. But when I was down there, 55 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: I asked him because obviously I had Evan Neil, who 56 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: you and your listeners know well, was on the Freaks 57 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: List a few years ago. They're different personalities, is how 58 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: you know. The coaches there kind of told me in 59 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 3: terms of that, and you know, athletically they're they're different. 60 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: They're both enormous men. Obviously, Evans, you know, move positions 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 3: and has definitely had some adjustments. I don't want to 62 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: say that that Proctor may be more naturally talented, maybe 63 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: not quite as maybe as you know, the same you know, 64 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: different personality, maybe not as mature as Evan was at 65 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: the same stage. But it's gonna be interesting to see 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: how what the NFL starts to evaluate these guys at 67 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 3: Because he plays Proctor plays on a line. I've never 68 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: had three guys on the same O line all on 69 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: the Freaks list, and there's three of them and this 70 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: should be one of the best offensive lines in college football. 71 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: And it's it's impressive because these guys are all like 72 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: live in the weight room. 73 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask you about the other two guys, 74 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: Parker Brailsford and Jaden Roberts. What have you heard about 75 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: those two guys coming out of Alabama? Obviously he has 76 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: done a real good job producing offensive lineman over the years. 77 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. Roberts is a guard. He was on there last year. 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,559 Speaker 3: He is He's just a physical specimen as a powerhouse. 79 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: Brailsford is the most interesting of the three to me. 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: He is an Arizona kid who was not a huge recruit, 81 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: went to Washington and then as a red shirt freshman 82 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: they play He was, you know, Michael Penix's team that 83 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: were rolling. They played for the national title. He was 84 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: the starting center of the offensive line that won the 85 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: Jill Moore Award, which goes to the best offensive line 86 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: in college football. He ended up transferring after the coaching 87 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: change in Kalen de Boor left to replace Nick Saban. 88 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: He moves really well. He was a track kid in 89 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 3: high school. Wasn't a wrestler, but everybody assumes he was 90 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: a wrestler because the way he plays. I mean, he 91 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: bench presses over five hundred pounds. He's going to run 92 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: probably in the high four eights. Super smart, as you 93 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: expect with most centers. Really interesting kid. Spent a bunch 94 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 3: of time with him the other day, and you know, 95 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: studied a lot a lot of Jason Kelcey. You know, 96 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: I suspect he will be a top fifty pick. You know, 97 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 3: I think people would like to see him a little bigger. 98 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: But he's close to three hundred pounds. I mean, he's 99 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: he's probably a little taller than I expected him to be. 100 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: Sometimes when you hear somebody's six to you expecting to 101 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: be six feet and a half. 102 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: No, it's not. 103 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: But he is really athletic, he's really strong, and he's 104 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: one of the coaches, without me really asking about him, 105 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: said they thought he was like the smartest player in 106 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 3: the program. So I think I think NFL scouts will 107 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: really like him. 108 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: Certainly something you want out of your center. All right, 109 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: let's go to another big guy. That's UPHI on your list. 110 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: That's Peter Woods. That of Clemson, and boy, their their 111 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: defense is absolutely stacked this year, Bruce. 112 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: They might have the most talented defense in college football. 113 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: Six three, three, ten, four eight, six, forty thirty four 114 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 2: ups on the bench. He could probably be a top 115 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: five pick, right. 116 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's super explosive, was a bigger cruit. This is 117 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: his third year. Last year took a step forward. They 118 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: played him sometimes outside, sometimes inside. Tom Allen is the 119 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: new defensive coordinator Clemson. You're right, John, this is a 120 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: really talented defense who did not play like it last year. 121 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 3: They were They were undisciplined, they were out of sync. 122 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: Coordinator change is different. I think he he will be 123 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: a dominant player this year. And we got a big 124 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 3: test from week one. They play LSU and LSU is 125 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: pretty loaded. But LSU lost four starting offensive linemen from 126 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: last year. They were all at the Senior Bowl. They 127 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: plugged in some transfer. They have some talent on the 128 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: line and Garrett Nussmeyer is a guy a lot of 129 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: people are really excited about. I think he'll be a 130 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 3: first round quarterback. They have a lot of speed. But 131 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: if Woods totally dominates the game and it's at Clemson, 132 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: it could be a rough start for Brian Kelly's team 133 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 3: to play there in the other Death Valley, as Clemson 134 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: Salm Stadium is known as well. 135 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: No question, All right, let's go to Keldric Falk. You 136 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: know we still ab dual card to go to the Giants. 137 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: Hig ind last year's draft, he was more of your 138 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: smaller edge type, right. Well, this draft, in folks, one 139 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: of these guys I think probably has some of like 140 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: the bigger Bill Belichick kind of edge X players. He's 141 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: six six, he's two eighty five. They play him inside 142 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: the three tech some five tech stuff. I watched a 143 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: lot of his tape from last year. This is another 144 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: guy with the talent he's just going to turn twenty 145 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: this year that he could be knocking on the door 146 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: as a top three, top five pick. 147 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: He could. And he's got length, he's really strong, and 148 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: I think he's been a guy who's had a lot 149 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: of buzz around him in the SEC and that Auburn 150 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: program has been spinning its wheels for a little while. 151 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: They need him to be a dominant player. He definitely flashes, 152 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: but they need him to be a guy who is 153 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: the most disruptive d lineman in the SEC. There's a 154 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: really elite young defensive lineman at South Carolina, Dylan Stewart, 155 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: but he's only a sophomore. He can't come out. It's 156 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: a second year sophomore. This guy, though, I think he 157 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: has the potential. And there's another also second year sophomore 158 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: who's a smaller defensive, you know, a smaller edge guy 159 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: in Colin Simmons at Texas. But falk Is, like you said, 160 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: I mean, he's the guy that you would remember back 161 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: in the old Giant days when it was like, you know, 162 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: not the ny when it was the you know, the 163 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: full name giants across Almon. 164 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: George Morton, right, like one of those edge guys, right, 165 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: like a lot bigger. 166 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: Than George Martin. Yeah, it's like like Leonard Marshall, but 167 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: maybe not quite that that hefty. 168 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: No, absolutely, he's a very exciting player to me. 169 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: And then I want to hit a couple of their 170 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: defensive tackles, Bruce, because I feel that you have a 171 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: lot of these guys hih in the list. Francis Mali 172 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: you go the offensive tackle. We'll get to him in 173 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: a second. I want to tell about Tom Orange out 174 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: of Iowa State because I did watch him over the 175 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: summer six four, three, twenty five. Man, all the freak 176 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: stuff that you talk about in your article, and I 177 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: want you to get to it. 178 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: It shows up. 179 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: Why do you think maybe the production hasn't matched some 180 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: of those traits in his career at Iowa State so far. 181 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's been a little inconsistency at times. 182 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 3: It'll be an interesting match up week so week week zero, 183 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: which is the first week of the season, and I 184 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: don't know when this is running, but like so he 185 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 3: may have already played this game, but. 186 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: This will air Friday, so it'll be right before week. 187 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: Okay, so yes, so opening week end of the season. 188 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: This is the best game of the opening week, Case 189 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: State against Iowa State. It's in Dublin, Ireland. Logan you know, 190 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: like there's a really good center. He's going to play 191 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 3: in there, you know, in their second game when they 192 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: play Iowa their arrival. Logan Jones is also on the 193 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: Freaks List. He's super explosive center. He may be more 194 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: explosive than Tyler Lindebaum. You know, he's a basketball player, 195 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: whereas Lindabahm was a was a wrestler. But I think 196 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 3: with Orange, because you you in the system, it's a 197 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: really good defensive you know, three three five. I think 198 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: there are times where it feels like he's a little 199 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: out of sync and everything. I don't know if if 200 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: it's just you know, from what from a conditioning standpoint, 201 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: because from what I'm told, one of the things of 202 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: this offseason he's really worked on was diet and just 203 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 3: to be in better physical shape. And I think that 204 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: will probably help in some of that, maybe whether it's 205 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: a lack of focus or a little bit of just 206 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: getting winded at times. But you're right, he is. He 207 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: is super explosive. Again, a three hntred twenty five pounds guy. 208 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if he was a first 209 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: round pick, but this is a big, big year for him. 210 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: Three other dts I want to hit here, Bruce that 211 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: you are pretty high in your list. Amury Washington and 212 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: of Oregon, the huge noseguard type. Then you have Zane 213 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: Durant out of Penn State. Very different type of defensive tackle, 214 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: just two ninety. And then I always like to give 215 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: the service academy kids some love. Lennon Robinson out of Navy. 216 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: Talk about those three guys. 217 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: For me, all right, let me start with LANDA Robinson. 218 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: I love his story. So he was like two hundred 219 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: and forty pounds when he got there. He's like two 220 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: eighty six now he's six feet. He's really explosive. He's 221 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: gonna vertical jump thirty three inches. The best thing I 222 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: would say about him, it's not necessarily freakless stuff, but 223 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: when they play their art. Tribal Army was undefeated late 224 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: in the year, obviously, and he had thirteen tackles, a 225 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: career high. He also had like a thirty two yard 226 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: run on a fake pun on a fourth and five 227 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: late in the game to seal the game. They've given 228 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 3: him the wall three times. He's averaging like thirty yards 229 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 3: of carrot. 230 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. 231 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: Now. And yeah, he's really really strong. I mean he's 232 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: almost a five hundred pound bencher. He's got a ton 233 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: of energy in terms of personality everything, Like he's a 234 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: fun player. I you know, as I'm about to transition 235 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: to Zane Durant. Zane Durant is a little smaller, he's 236 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: even more explosive. And this is where I'm going to 237 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 3: bring up the Aaron Donald comparison. Zane Durant runs four 238 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 3: six six. We've talked a lot about freaks list guys 239 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 3: at Penn State on your show, and Zane Durant is 240 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: right there. He wasn't that big of a recruit coming 241 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: out of you know, the North Florida area, but he 242 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 3: is so explosive. And the center at Penn State, Nick Dawkins, 243 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: Darryl Dawkins' son, like that, Darryl Dawkins, great talker, really 244 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 3: good college center. I asked him a couple of weeks back. 245 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: I was like, who's the best defensive line you faced 246 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: in college? You remember he played the guys at Oregon. 247 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: You know, you had a first round pick in Jamari Collwells. 248 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: Also in the NFL, he's seen some elite guys, you know, 249 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: Tyler Williams who went high in the draft from Hohno State, 250 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 3: and he's like, hands down, you know, Zane Durant, not 251 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,239 Speaker 3: even not even close, you know, and just so explosive, 252 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: so disruptive. Again, he's a little south of two ninety. 253 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: But in the right scheme, he is hell to block. Now, 254 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: he's probably not a scheme fit for everybody, but he's 255 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 3: super disruptive. And I think with Jim Knowles, who had 256 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: been the defensive coordinator at Ohio State when they won 257 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 3: the national title, going in there, I think this is 258 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: a you know, they have denied Dennis Sutton, who's an 259 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: outside guy who's a really good football player. 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The Giants Foundation is a five O one 278 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: C three nonprofit corporation. 279 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: And then you mentioned sorry and I'm missing out. 280 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, now that's why. Yeah, h so funny you mentioned 281 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: Jamari Caldwell in the answer. 282 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: One of his teammates last year with Derek Harmon was 283 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: the massive U snoseguard they have over there. 284 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Amri Washington. When they sent me his numbers, 285 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: it was like a triple take because he's he's almost 286 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: three hundred forty pounds. He vertical jumps thirty six inches, 287 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: I mean his his you know, bench presses like four 288 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: to seventy five. You know, hits almost twenty one miles 289 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: per hour on the GPS. And so Dan Lanning, the 290 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 3: head coach there, who came from you know, was at Georgia, 291 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: was at Alabama. He's seeing a lot of freaky d 292 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 3: linemen and this guy has all those trades and they 293 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 3: feel like he's ready to take the next step some 294 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 3: plays last year. They need him to be a dominator 295 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: this year, and he has all the physical tools to 296 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: be that. But we need to see it. There's there's 297 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: a lot of guys like obviously, you know, we just 298 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: talked about the Navy defensive line and Sane Durrant. Those 299 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: guys have done it like last year, especially for Durant, 300 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: he broke through. This is a guy in Washington where 301 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: we need to see it. You know, like last year 302 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: Derek Harmon was was was a huge problem for defense 303 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: and Jamaari callball at times was a big problem. They 304 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: need that guy to be like this, that's what they 305 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: They need him to be like they were last year 306 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: if they're going to take the next step now. Matteo 307 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: an outside rusher, take Tim Tuioti. Those guys are really 308 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: good players outside, but they need the guy who just 309 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: disrupts everything inside to make it all just take it 310 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: to the next level. 311 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: I let you up to the offensive side of the ball. 312 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: I guess it's no surprise, Bruce that two Io offensive 313 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: linemen are on this list. You already mentioned Logan Jones, 314 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: but he's not alone. 315 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kate Peeper is like, uh, you know the numbers 316 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: that these guys both are like, you know, thirty seven 317 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: inch vertical super like fast and the ten yards split. 318 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: Both those guys who were setting IOWA program records for 319 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: one for a guard, one for a center. Logan Jones 320 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: was actually a high school basketball player. He told me 321 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: first dunked in ninth grade when he was six to one. 322 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: You know, he's around you know, three hundred pounds. He 323 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: is one of those typical Iowa offensive linemen where you're like, okay, 324 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: he was a really good all around athlete who just 325 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: kept think getting stronger and crazy stronger every off season. 326 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: And he's a really good football player. You know. I 327 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: actually I have three freaksist guys from Iowa all in 328 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: the top fifty. Like I don't want to say none 329 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: of them were huge, huge recruits, but like you go 330 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: through the list. I mean, Tristan Wurks was once my 331 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: number one overall freak. He's obviously you know, I had 332 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: a really good NFL career. You know, I mentioned Linda Baum, 333 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: who was you know, it was a really great player 334 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: for them and has you know, went pretty high in 335 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: the draft. Or even though he's a little one under size. 336 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: But this is what Kirk Ferrance does. I feel like 337 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: there's no off, no head coaching college football that knows 338 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: offensive linement any better than Kirk Ferrence does. He's an 339 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: old Belichick guy and he coached a line for a 340 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: long time. He just has a great feel for it. 341 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: And I think they have a real knack for finding 342 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: guys whether they were a four star or a two star, 343 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 3: they just have a feel for it. 344 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: That's a very important position to have a good feel for. 345 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: That's for sure, all right. 346 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: Although the offensive talk I want to hit I mentioned 347 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: it before, Francis. Now we go out of Miami's six six, 348 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: two thirty five, you know him down for a one 349 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: to five seven ten yards split in the forty that's 350 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: crazy for a man that size. 351 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, now you know. I mean it's the g is 352 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: pronounced to the end. He was a huge five star 353 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: recruit for Mario Crystaball Chrystal Ball when he was at Oregon. 354 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: At Penae Seool, I mean, he had a lot of 355 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: big time linemen over the years, but pine Sool was 356 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: a was a major get for him who he was like, 357 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: probably higher on than most of other people were. And 358 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: obviously I turned out to be a dominant player. I 359 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: know it's been at right tackle since he got there. 360 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 3: Just super explosive power in terms of the numbers that 361 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 3: he puts up. You know, he's close to three hundred 362 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 3: and forty pounds. Just a big frame. I think the 363 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 3: best thing that if you're an NFL team that you 364 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: look at, you're like, okay, christ of ball. If he 365 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: knows one thing, it is about big people. And you've 366 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 3: seen it pretty much everywhere he's been. And certainly you 367 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 3: know whether it was at Alabama and then obviously at 368 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: Oregon when they when they really upgraded the guys in 369 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: the trenches. Now we're seeing it at Miami. This is 370 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 3: a massive offensive line and this is the freakiest of 371 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: the group. 372 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the skill position guys here, Bruce, 373 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: and a guy that if people have kept track of 374 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 2: your list over the years, is a name that will 375 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: look very familiar. He checks in near the top of 376 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: your list, and that is Nick Harbor, who's six' five 377 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: and two forty five at wide, receiver ran a ten 378 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: to one one one hundred Meter he finally he got 379 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 2: going a little bit last year at twenty six catches 380 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: three into seventy six. Yards what have you heard from 381 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: the people there about a is continuing development as a 382 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: wide receiver and if maybe especially with the quarterback, there 383 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: which we'll get to as, well maybe a breakouts incoming for. 384 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: Him, yeah they need to see it. MORE i mean 385 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 3: he's still pretty, raw you, know for not this past, 386 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: year but the year before. That he's still running track 387 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: at a high level At South. Carolina that's what he 388 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: was coming out of high. School he's. Running he's running 389 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: a high level competitive track and he is stix and 390 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: seven inches taller than the other guys and seventy and 391 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: eighty pounds heavier than them that he's running. AGAINST i, 392 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 3: mean he's a gigantic, receiver. Right his body fats, like you, 393 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: know five percent at that. Size he's hitting twenty three 394 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: point six miles per hour this. Offseason but, again you're, 395 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: right they need to see him really take two big 396 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: steps forward in terms of his, polish his awareness on the. 397 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: Field the quarterback you're talking, About, lenoris another freaksless guy 398 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: six three two forty five can run in the four or. 399 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 3: FIVES i, mean people have compared him a little bit 400 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: To steve. McNair he's super. Strong he's really. Smart that's 401 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 3: the other big thing About. Sellers from talking to guys 402 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: who coached him and you, know spending a little time with, 403 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 3: him he's a, really really smart. Kid last year was 404 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: his first year as a. Starter took a little bit 405 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: of time to get, rolling but once he, did he played. 406 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: Fantastic That clemson defense that was so. Talented he ran 407 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: away from the entire front four on several plays and 408 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 3: they just couldn't get him. Down and he took over an, 409 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 3: offense by the, way that only had one returning starter on. 410 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 3: Offense so the growing pains weren't just, his it was 411 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: everybody around. 412 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: Him you, Know, BRUCE i don't know about. 413 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: YOU i would be surprised if If Archie manning's in 414 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: the draft next, year knowing how The manning family, Was 415 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: i'm obviously around these, GUYS i would be pretty, surprised 416 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 2: given his physical skill, set If sellers is not the 417 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: one that emerges from this quarterback group as the guy 418 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: that gets picked. 419 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: First and what is a pretty good quarterback. 420 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: Class it should, be it really should. Be So I'm 421 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: sellers will be. Interesting there's gonna be a second year 422 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: as a. Starter now it's a new system, Again So 423 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: Dawa logins who you. KNOW nfl fans know that. Name 424 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 3: he was in THE nfl for like fifteen twenty. Years 425 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: he was the offensive. Coordinator he really Wanted sellers was 426 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 3: not a big. Recruit he got passed over by a 427 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 3: lot of. People he wanted to go To North. Carolina 428 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: he was set to go to Like virginia and Then, 429 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 3: syracuse and then like you, know late in his senior, 430 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 3: Season loggins In South carolina moved. In it was. Terrific 431 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 3: loggins with him for two. Years he started for one 432 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 3: After Spencer rattler, left and Now loggins is the head 433 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: coach at App state And Mike schula comes in to take. 434 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: Over so's it's a little bit of a different. SYSTEM 435 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: i we'll see what's going to be if he's out 436 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 3: after you, know two, years two years as a, player 437 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: in three, years three and out or does he? Wait 438 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 3: i'm with, YOU i don't. THINK i don't think Arch 439 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 3: man's gonna leave after just one year as a, starter 440 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 3: even if it is a sixteen game season where they 441 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: play for the for the national title and it goes. 442 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: ALONG i still think that just from Knowing Cooper manning 443 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: his dad really WELL i just think that they are 444 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: not going to rush. Him they don't need to worry 445 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: about money or anything like. THAT i think they can 446 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: be patient with this. Class you, know we Mentioned Garrett nssmeyer. 447 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: Before his dad is The saints offense. Coordinator Dougnas meyer 448 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: played in THE. Nfl he's really. Talented Carson, beck who 449 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: two years ago people were buzzing about IN nfl scouting 450 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: circles At georgia and then he struggled last year out In. 451 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: Elbondrey now he's At. Miami people expect him At miami 452 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: to have a big. Years there's this is a deep 453 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: and interesting. Group you got one guy who didn't make 454 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: the freakslist At Penn, state but his looks the. Part 455 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 3: Drew aller six two forty five moves pretty, good is really, 456 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: smart got a big. Arm he's a guy who has 457 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: a chance TO i, think get a lot of. ATTENTION i, 458 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: mean so this is A i don't say it's a 459 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: top heavy, group but there's a bunch of, guys including 460 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: some really big guys Like beck's almost six y. Four 461 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 3: sellers is a huge. Man aller is a really big. 462 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 3: Guy you. Know there's it's an interesting. Group beyond just. 463 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: Arch, No i'm with. 464 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: YOU i think it's a really fun class and it's Funny. 465 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: Bruce THEN i think after you get Past harbor and 466 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 2: again we'll get to the guy number one on your 467 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: list at the, end there's kind of a bit of 468 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 2: a gap before you get to the next wide. Receiver 469 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: any other wide receivers on this group kind of really 470 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: intrigue you that jumped, out whether it's their story or 471 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: the numbers that you got that maybe could sneak up a, 472 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: lot sneak up on people a little bit in the draft. 473 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 3: Process Chris hilton is a wild, card like he was 474 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 3: a high level high jumper coming out of high, school 475 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: went TO. Lsu you, know you can ask my leak 476 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 3: neighbors about. Him he's seeing how super Freaky Chris hilton. 477 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 3: Is i'll ask, him but, yeah, no ask. HIM i 478 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 3: bet he'll have great. Stories Because Chris hilton is the. 479 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: Guy he's been like injured a, bunch but when he's, 480 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 3: played he, AVERAGE i want to, say your average is 481 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: like thirty, yards you, know a touchdown. Catch he's been 482 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: a big play guy when he's. Healthy but he just 483 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: hasn't been, healthy and you think about all the elite, 484 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 3: Receivers like when he committed TO, lsu they still Had 485 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: Justin jefferson And Jamar chase and then at one, point you, 486 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 3: know there Was Kashawn, boute who is a good receiver 487 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: AT lsu obviously hadn't been a great star in THE, 488 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: nfl but they had him At brian tom you, know 489 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 3: he's in this class With neighbors And Brian Thomas, junior 490 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: and he was a really big get FOR. Lsu he's still. 491 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: There maybe this will be the year that he can 492 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: stay healthy and puts it all together because he can like. 493 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 3: Explosive like when you talk to people AT, lsu they're, like, 494 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 3: yeah he's the biggest freak skill guy we. Have and 495 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 3: there's other guys in that. Room they have a legit track, 496 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 3: Kid Johnny, watkins who's gonna run ten. Flat they have another, 497 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 3: Guy Barrion, brown who when the video games come, out 498 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: they make his speed like ninety eight transferred From. Kentucky 499 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: it's you, Know hilton is the wild. Card i'd be 500 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 3: curious what you, know absolut leak neighbors for His, like, 501 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: okay do you think he's a freak and see what 502 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: kind of reaction you Get i'd be surprised that his 503 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: eyes don't don't get. 504 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: BIG i will ask him AND i will text you 505 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: no question about. It didn't he a ton of running 506 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: on the, List, Bruce Jeremiah. Love you could talk about 507 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: why he's not on the, list by the, way but 508 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: any other running backs you know jump out at you 509 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: when you're talking to people around the. 510 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 3: Country Nick singleton is the guy you know in terms 511 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: of like big size two twenty. Plus he's going to 512 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: run in the four. Threes he's incredibly. Strong he shares 513 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 3: the job with K Tron, allen who's also a really good, 514 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 3: back not as not as, explosive but really good football. 515 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 3: Player we'll see where single What singleton does this. YEAR i, 516 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 3: MEAN i don't know if if you get to share 517 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: the job and you become a first round, pick BUT 518 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 3: i could see him really lighting up the combine. Process 519 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 3: but he's he's a really good football. Player Jeremiah. Love you, 520 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: know was a track guy in high. School not like 521 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 3: a track guy Like Nick harbor is running ten to. 522 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 3: One he was running ten to. Six but you could 523 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: if you watch notre am, games you see him football. 524 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 3: Speed he is super, fast he's, dynamic he's a terrific football. 525 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: Player AS i wrote on The, freakslist the reason why 526 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 3: he was not in there and ain't gave me like 527 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: four guys you know that they nominated. Forward the reason 528 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 3: why he wasn't there was he was coming off injury 529 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: and when he did test and do some of those, 530 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: things he just wasn't quite the same at that. Point and, 531 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 3: again he's he's one of the best football, players AND 532 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: i would say he's the best running back in college. 533 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: Football but just in terms of, this it wasn't like 534 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 3: he ran ten to one in high. School he won 535 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 3: The Missouri state one hundred, meter but his time was. 536 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 3: Good it wasn't, like oh my, god like The Nick harbor. 537 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: Stuff but if you ask me who's the best running 538 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 3: back in the, COUNTRY i would definitely take care of my. 539 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: Love Now i'm with you on. 540 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: That you had a tight end very high on your, 541 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 2: list a tight end that could have came out last, 542 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: year got a lot of money to go back To, 543 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: Vanderbilt Eli. Stowers what are you hearing about? Him and 544 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: he had a breakout of here last? Year could those 545 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 2: numbers even get even bigger this? 546 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 3: Year they? Could So he's interesting in that he was 547 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: a four star quarterback out of high. School went To 548 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 3: TEXAS a and m played at a big time, program 549 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 3: didn't really you, know get it going as a quarterback. 550 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 3: There transferred To New Mexico state where they move moved 551 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: him to tight. End his quarterback at the Time Diego, 552 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: pavia who's a really fun, player dual threat, guy plays 553 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: with a lot of moxie and great. Energy they are 554 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: both transferred along with their offensive coordinator To, vandy and 555 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: he broke out last. Year as you, said now he's 556 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 3: not a he is kind of a secondary tight end 557 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: where he's not going to be an inline. Blocker he's 558 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 3: six four to two thirty. Five he's going to broad 559 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: jump eleven to. Three he's going to vertical, jump you, 560 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: know probably over forty. Inches he can really stretch. Defenses 561 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: he's a. WEAPON i think in college he's a real. 562 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 3: Problem you. Know the only COMPARISON i would probably be 563 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: able to throw out of somebody like this is kind 564 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: of in That Evan. Ingram but he might be even 565 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 3: more explosive Than Evan. Ingram and OBVIOUSLY i know you 566 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: know him. Well he's he's an interesting, player especially in 567 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: that you know was the quarterback and now found a 568 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 3: second lefe as a tight, end especially coming out Of Las, 569 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: Crusis New, mexico where no one's paying attention to college 570 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: football mostly all. 571 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: Right two other prisoners down to. 572 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: Hit you were a linebacker class that's pretty, impressive headlined 573 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: By Sonny, styles but you have linebackers littered all over this. 574 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: List, Bruce, Yeah Sunny styles is the. GUY i saw 575 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: him like last month out at a media, event and 576 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: he's just a really impressive. Dude his dad played in THE, 577 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 3: nfl won A Super. Bowl sonny six four to. Forty 578 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 3: he's vertical jumps forty inches and broad jumps eleven feet 579 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: and he's he had told me from the time he 580 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 3: was like five or, six his dad was doing pliometrics 581 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 3: with him and his brother and he and he was like. 582 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: YEAH i was, like do you think it paid? Off 583 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: and he WAS i wanted him to go what do you? 584 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 3: Think BECAUSE i, mean he's the guy everybody's wa, like 585 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: this is that big ten media days and he was 586 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: the one guy everybody's like looking, at Going, okay that 587 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: looks like something you'd see out of a movie or. 588 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: Something he's a really good football, player makes a ton of. 589 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 3: Plays they you, know They Matt patricio OBVIOUSLY nfl fans 590 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: know from his days. There he's the new defensive coordinator. 591 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 3: There he has two freaky linebackers, There Sonny style an 592 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 3: Rbl reese who's right there with. Him I'm james Laurn. 593 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: IIIs he's the position. Coach he is going to get 594 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: spoiled with with guys like, that the other the other, 595 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: one and there's a bunch of. Them as you, Said 596 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: Tony ross At Penn state can is super. Fast he 597 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 3: made a ton of plays last. YEAR i feel like 598 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 3: he's a guy THAT i don't want to say it's 599 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: not fair to say he's going to break out this 600 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: year because he already had a phenomenal season last. Year 601 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 3: but you, Know Penn state has had so many guys 602 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 3: in the front seven who who are super freaky testers 603 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 3: and and he's that. TOO i just think he's a 604 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: guy that probably more people need to be talking. About, 605 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: obviously last year With, abdul they had a headliner and 606 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: so he was getting a lot of the. Attention and 607 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: there's other guys, here you, know Including durant and Denied 608 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: Denis sutton as a heck of a football player who 609 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: finished the season strong BUT i Think tony is a 610 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: guy who more people will kind, of you, know start 611 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: to put out there as you, know the numbers crazy with. 612 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: Him SO i just think the, numbers the, film all of. 613 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 3: It he's a, Playmaker he's a stud all. 614 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: Right final position before we wrap up with a couple 615 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: of overarching. Things only five cornerbacks on the, List, bruce 616 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: WHICH i was taken a little bit of back by 617 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: because usually you get some pretty crazy athletes at Corner 618 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: was that kind of a little surprising to you that 619 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: that more guls guys didn't get submitted to you for 620 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 2: the top one. 621 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 3: Hundred, yeah and a couple of them towards are probably 622 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: towards the bottom of the list are small school guys 623 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 3: who's who are good. PLAYERS i don't think they're like 624 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: one of them is at Ut martin is a really 625 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 3: undersized cornerback who's fast and explosive but not you, know 626 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: he's Not Treik wallen. Either the same thing With William 627 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: mary's cornerback who is long but not like he's not six.' 628 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: four he's just got, long arms and you know he's 629 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: a really good. Football Player KOLBY. Taylor p I'VE had 630 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 3: i think on. Three years he started his Career at 631 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: wyoming and he's he is long and. HE'S dynamic i 632 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: don't think he's he's still. Pretty raw he's Now, at 633 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 3: vanderbilt but he's a he is a very. Talented athlete 634 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: i'm curious is he kind of? A project what DOES 635 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: the nfl look? At him, but yeah this year is 636 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: not what it has been. In past as you, mentioned 637 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: earlier it's a lot of, big people especially ON the, 638 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: d line and certainly is quite a few ON the, 639 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: O line, I think but in terms, of, corners no. 640 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 3: There's not, you know it's always interesting to go back 641 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: and LOOK like i, love, TO like i watch a 642 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: TON Of nfl Network and i'm watching a lot of, 643 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 3: preseason Stuff and, i'm, Like hey i'm Rooting For ruben 644 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: lowry because i Know the cowboys got him as a. 645 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: Free agent he was like number one hundred On The 646 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: freaks list last year and was a small school guy 647 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 3: that looks like he's going to MAKE an Nfl roster 648 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: and because he's making a ton of plays in, the 649 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: preseason you love. 650 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: To see stuff. Like that Number Ninety daniel. 651 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: Sparks punter what is a punter at to do to make, The, 652 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: Freaklist bruce and is this the first specialist you've had on? 653 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: These lists it's not like so. LAST year i actually 654 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 3: had a punter from a punter kickoff Guy From penn 655 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 3: state who's like, six six two eighty five who's, still 656 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: there who runs in the. High Four aids sparks is 657 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 3: almost like a college basketball. POWER forward i mean he's, 658 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: six six he can. REALLY jump i think there were 659 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 3: like three or, four specialists maybe three punters and one 660 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 3: KICKER who i had referenced in there in some way, 661 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 3: or other who were. In consideration, you know He's. AT 662 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: virginia i mean he's a he's a really, good specialist 663 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 3: but like he is a. BIG dude i mean he 664 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 3: kind of looks like he could play tight end. RIGHT 665 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 3: now i mean he's not, too forty he's too twenty 666 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: eight or something, like that but really, explosive athlete can 667 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: really run. 668 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: And jump love, it. 669 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: All right let's get tore TO the m one guy and, 670 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: Your List. Jeremiah smith THE reason i left him for 671 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: last is he's not, Draft. Eligible bruce but assuming he 672 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: has as big of a year as you all think, 673 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: HE might i love your little anecdote you could tell 674 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: it about his any habits as a Freshman At. Ohio 675 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 2: state what is twenty twenty six is gonna look like? 676 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: For him like they're goin to be screams that he shouldn't. 677 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: Even play our team's going to try to THROW crazy 678 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: nll money at him to get him to go to a. 679 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: Different school they're already. 680 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: Throwing crazy anile money to try to get him. To 681 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: leave i'm sure there'll be a lot of people who, 682 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 3: will say the only thing you can do is, get 683 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: injured don't, you know? Be careful, YOU know i don't 684 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 3: know what the insurance policy would be. For him he 685 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: was the best receiver in college football last year when 686 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 3: he came out and when he came, Into COLLEGE and 687 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: i would tell some of my coworkers because we did 688 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: a Bunch Of ohio state Games at Fox and i'm 689 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 3: on the sideline, for it and JUST like i, was 690 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: like you don't realize how big he is until you 691 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: se him. In person and the only the BEST comparison 692 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: i got for Him Is andre Johnson, from miami right 693 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 3: like six three, two thirty, super strong, Really PHYSICAL like 694 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: i remember one of my last Memories Of andre johnson 695 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 3: as a. College player was him just physically Abusing the 696 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: nebraska cornerback In the national, title game like he was 697 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 3: just throwing them off like they were like they were, 698 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 3: you know pool noodles. Or something just just a completely. 699 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: Freaky athlete this guy is way more polished at a. 700 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 3: Younger age. IT'S funny i Know Met jeremiah smith's dad 701 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 3: at a at a game early in the season and 702 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: we just kind of kept in touch and we talked About. 703 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: The andrea he, was, LIKE yeah i got a picture 704 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 3: of everybody CALLS. HIM jj i got a PICTURE of 705 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: Jj with ANDREA when jj was like seven. Years old 706 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: AND so i did a big Story On jeremiah smith 707 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 3: last fall and we included the picture of Him With. 708 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: Andre johnson They're Both, south florida, You know. Miami kids 709 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: so he like as great as the receivers have been 710 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 3: coming Out Of, ohio state and obviously they've almost all backed, 711 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 3: it up, you know whether It's a Lave Or. Garrett wilson, 712 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: you know You Had marvin. Harrison, junior recently You had. 713 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin this guy is the best combination by far 714 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: of all. Of it he's, the biggest he's, the strongest 715 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 3: he might be the fastest because he's running twenty three 716 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: point five miles. Per hour, You Know Marvin, harrison junior 717 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: after all those, other guys was the. Best combination this guy's, 718 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 3: much stronger and he's a, little faster and he's probably 719 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 3: more way. More physical, you know he's six three and. 720 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 3: A half he's to almost two. Twenty five he broad jumps. 721 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 3: Eleven feet and the thing he said, to him of 722 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 3: all the freaky things you're able, to do you know 723 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 3: what's the thing you're most? Proud of and, he said 724 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: it's probably my bench press and my STRENGTH because i 725 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 3: got up to two hundred twenty to twenty reps at 726 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: two twenty five on the. Bench press, he GOES when i, 727 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 3: GOT here i was only. About five so he's put on, 728 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: you know he's gone from five to twenty in a 729 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 3: little over, a year and that's obviously a lot for, 730 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: any receiver much less one who's, you know nineteen. Years old. 731 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 2: IT'S funny i thought he would have said getting Off 732 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: the wendy's after eating fast food every day for his whole. 733 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: FRESHMAN year i know he. 734 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 3: Was, LIKE yeah i was basically eating it, every Day and, 735 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: i'm like it's like you have obviously great genetics if 736 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 3: you're able to eat all that stuff and still look 737 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 3: the way he did and do what. He DID but, i, 738 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 3: think again this is a guy who from a really 739 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 3: early age he was very dialed in and very driven 740 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: and focused. And motivated and so he and his Dad 741 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 3: and jeremiah as well talked a lot, about THAT and 742 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: i think that has given him such an, incredible foundation 743 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: an incredible head start on all these. OTHER guys, i 744 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 3: mean he's not only the number one, freaking collegeable he's the. 745 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 3: BEST player i don't even think it's close to anybody 746 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: else in. 747 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 2: COLLEGE football I cat i love when THESE two i 748 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: can't blame. Him, All right brew's, Final question you followed 749 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 2: college football closer. Than anyone what's? One storyline maybe team? 750 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: Player trend then maybe you think is being overlooked in 751 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 2: college football, this year that not enough people are talking. 752 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: About that you think it either impact, the season. The 753 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: draft we're just something that you're really tracking throughout. The 754 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: year you can go in any direction you. 755 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: WANT here. 756 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 3: I think it's going to. Be fascinating but, you know 757 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 3: we were Talking about Chris silt in a. MINUTE ago 758 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 3: I think lsu was one of the more interesting stories 759 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 3: we Have. In, Collegeville Well brian kelly did a terrific 760 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 3: Job At. Notre dame he left there three, years ago 761 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: had a good, start Obviously Had jaden daniels who transferred 762 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: in and Became a, heisman winner a lot of other really. 763 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 3: Good players and now it's year four and the. PRESSURE'S 764 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: on lsu is spending a fortune on their. Transfer, portal 765 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 3: guys they have a lot. Of Talent this kelly, just 766 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 3: said this is the most talented team. He's had his buyout, 767 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: is enormous, you know north of fifty. Million dollars but 768 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 3: if he doesn't get them to the playoff, this year 769 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 3: which means you have to be, you know make a twelve, 770 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: team playoff which isn't unrealistic, AT all i think there 771 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 3: will be a lot of PRESSURE at lsu to get 772 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 3: rid of, him now whether that means they can do 773 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 3: something to use to get him out of the buyout if, 774 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 3: They start if they don't make, THE playoff i would 775 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 3: not be surprised because the one thing the three coaches 776 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: who came before HIM, at lsu That's, Edozer On les 777 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 3: Miles And. Nick saban the only thing they have in 778 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 3: common is that they all won national TITLES at lsu 779 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 3: and all did it within the first. Four years this 780 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: is a huge story and it's going to get out 781 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: the gate a big way because they play on the Road. 782 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 3: At clemson kelly has talked a lot about how big 783 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 3: of a game. This is he's not. Shying away he's 784 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 3: definitely he's pushing in, on it saying how like they, 785 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 3: have tigers, You Know Clemson tiger pauls all over, their 786 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 3: facility just kind of. Reinforce it, you know if they 787 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 3: don't win, that game then a couple of weeks later 788 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: they play A good florida team who they lost to. 789 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 3: Last year it's going to be a really interesting season In. 790 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 3: Bat rouge and. 791 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 1: Talking, about pressure by, the way How About. 792 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 2: PENN state i don't remember the, Last time bruce where 793 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: they were ranked Ahead Of ohio State. And michigan have 794 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 2: the best quarterback between the three schools. AS well i 795 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 2: got to imagine there's a lot of Pressure In penn 796 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 2: state to finally get over the hump and win that. 797 00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: Big. 798 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: Ten yeah not just the, best quarterback you're right, about 799 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 3: that but they also have the best two. Running backs 800 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 3: they have two running backs who are better than Anybody 801 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 3: at Michigan Or. Ohio state this year they have the 802 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 3: best d Lineman And. Zane durant now they don't have the. 803 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 3: Best Player ohio state is the best offensive defensive Players 804 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: In jeremiah smith And Safety. Caleb downs but they also have, 805 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 3: you know a great combination. Of, coordinators right so their 806 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 3: Offense coordinator Andy kotle nikki is very. Well respected cayman 807 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 3: last year did. Really well their defensive coordinator Just Helped 808 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 3: ohio state win a. National Title, jim knowles. He's there 809 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 3: so now You Got ohio State and, Michigan Obviously, WINK 810 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 3: martindale i know you. Know him he Is. At michigan 811 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator. Is new we'll See How chip lindsay 812 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 3: Does At. Ohio state you have two new coordinators on, 813 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 3: both sides so Yes And ohio AND also i Would 814 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 3: Say penn state probably has the best offensive line of 815 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 3: both of those. Teams too if there was ever a 816 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 3: Year Where penn state is going to Win The big 817 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 3: ten and a national, title run you would think this. 818 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 2: Is It and I'M sorry i was, gonna wrap but 819 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: You Mentioned. Caleb downs he was not on, your LIST 820 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: which i was. Surprised by giving some people think he 821 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: might be the second best player in college Football After. Jeremiah, SMITH. 822 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,959 Speaker 3: Yeah i mean a, brilliant kid terrific, football player really. 823 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 3: GOOD athlete i mean returns punts for. Them too just 824 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 3: Quite not LIKE when i would ask those, you Know 825 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 3: both smith And, AND styles i, was like who else 826 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 3: is in the freaks discussion? THE game A Guy brenton 827 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 3: jones who is a former, walk on who's the defensive 828 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 3: back who they say is the biggest freak whose numbers 829 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 3: are kind of like theirs to. 830 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 2: Be, honest yeah and you, Know, WHAT look i think, 831 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 2: playing safety what's going on up here is much more 832 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: important than what's going on with the freak. 833 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: Slipt, stuff anyway you can find the free slifts On. 834 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: THE athletic i will link IT when i tweet this 835 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 2: out for the folks, out there make sure you click. 836 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,479 Speaker 2: On that it's a must read to get you ready 837 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 2: for the college football season and. The, draft bruce do 838 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 2: you have anything else going on that you want to 839 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: promote before we? 840 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: Say, goodbye. 841 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 3: No just to check us Out on fox Worts and 842 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 3: i'm in studio this. Year again it'll, Be ah it'll 843 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 3: be a. FUN season I can't i get to Work With, 844 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 3: chris peterson The Old Washington boise. State coach there's nobody 845 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 3: better to watch. 846 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: Football with and you got a, podcast, Too right do 847 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: you want to? 848 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 3: PLUG that? I, do yeah check us out On. The 849 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 3: audible it's, With Myself stuart Mandel And ralph russo's joiner 850 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 3: this year and we have a fun time with just talking. 851 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 3: About it and for anybody who, hasn't seen there's one 852 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 3: OTHER thing i would want, TO plug i guess so 853 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 3: anybody hasn't Seen The arch. Manning story we did a 854 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 3: couple of like a month or, so ago just really 855 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 3: it was the idea was about what it was like for, 856 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 3: His parents Cooper And ellen manning to raise quote The 857 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 3: next manning Because obviously cooper is the one brother with, You, 858 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 3: know Arch with Eli. And peyton OBVIOUSLY great nfl quarterbacks was. 859 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 3: Around it but they those, you know as great as, 860 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 3: they were they did not grow up in the era of, 861 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 3: social media which His son, arch is and so all 862 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 3: the challenges that come. With it it's kind of a 863 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 3: fascinating as a, YOUNG parent i, feel like going through our. 864 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 3: Own situation it was an interesting perspective To hear Cooper 865 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 3: and ellen talk about how They raised ARCH and i, 866 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 3: YOU know i think people will be fascinating once they 867 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: take a look at. 868 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: That, Story, ironically bruce One Of eli manning's former, Offensive Lineman, 869 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: chris snee has a really highly. 870 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: RANKED quarterback I Think. 871 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 2: Don bosco he's going through Here In, new jersey so 872 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 2: you'll be hearing about him coming down the pike. 873 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: Pretty. 874 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 3: Soon awesome thanks for that's up, On, That bruce you're. 875 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: The man thank you. 876 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 2: So much enjoy the football season and we will talk 877 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 2: to you in the spring leading up to. 878 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 1: THE draft i, appreciate. 879 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 3: It, Man Awesome. 880 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: Thanks john that's all the. 881 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 2: Time we have for, draft season Presented, by moody's a 882 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 2: proud partner Of The New, York, Giants, Dcode Risk, unlock 883 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 2: opportunity learn more than moodies. 884 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 1: Dot com We Thank bruce feldman for joining. 885 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: Us again go check out his Freaks Lists freaks list 886 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 2: you can find it At the athletic just find It 887 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 2: On his twitter handle is linked up AND when i 888 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 2: tweet out the promotion for, THIS podcast i will put 889 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 2: the link in there for it. As well always a 890 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 2: great way to get ready for the college football season 891 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: and the one players a kind of keep an eye 892 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 2: on as we already start thinking about the twenty. Twenty six, 893 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 2: THAT'S Right nfl Draft For, Bruce Feldman I'm. John schmelch that's. 894 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 2: Draft season thank you for joining us In The Hackensack Emriney. 895 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: Health podcast you keep. Getting better we'll see you. Next, 896 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: time everybody