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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: I'm Channel Room, joined as always by Tyler Stafford and

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Speaker 1: finally Josh Reddick. Josh, where have you been?

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Speaker 2: I've been across the pond.

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Speaker 3: Boys started in Finland, hung out there in the Arctic

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Speaker 3: Circle for about a week, did some great experiences, and

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Speaker 3: then spent a week in a little bit of Edinburgh,

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Speaker 3: scott and Scotland and then England for a race for

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Speaker 3: Mavericks Racing, So all over the place over there, freezing

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Speaker 3: my butt off getting rained on.

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Speaker 2: So I was actually night. I'm very excited to come

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Speaker 2: back to this heat we're having right now.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome. Was What was some highlights? What all did

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Speaker 4: you see?

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Speaker 3: Well, we went to Santa's Village in Finland, which is

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Speaker 3: a great experience, especially for the boys, fed reindeer pretty

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Speaker 3: much every day. The first place we stayed at had

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Speaker 3: a a like basically a skylight roof. It was just

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Speaker 3: a big, old open roof so you could look at

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Speaker 3: the Northern lights have had they had shown up. They

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Speaker 3: didn't show up in that place, but they did show

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Speaker 3: up a couple of days later at a cabin we

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Speaker 3: stayed in.

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Speaker 2: Didn't see anything, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the view is magnificent when it shows up,

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Speaker 3: but we didn't get to see like.

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Speaker 2: The whole sky lit up.

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Speaker 3: But we did see a good bit and that was

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Speaker 3: a pretty fantastic experience.

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Speaker 1: Where the European go kart drivers good or bad or

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Speaker 1: oh yeah no, there.

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Speaker 2: They were very good, very very good.

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Speaker 3: There was a big learning lesson from Maverick this trip,

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Speaker 3: because he finally got an understanding of how dedicated some

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Speaker 3: and he had to learn a new track in a

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Speaker 3: new country and a new time zone and basically one

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Speaker 3: day so finished I think was fourteenth out of twenty two,

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Speaker 3: so right around the middle of the pack. But these

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Speaker 3: kids live, breathey, die, do everything there is about racing.

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Speaker 3: So hopefully this kicks him into high gar and says,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's done, it's time to go.

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Speaker 4: Did uh did they drive on the other side on

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Speaker 4: the go kard track? That was my big question before

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Speaker 4: he left.

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Speaker 2: I mean, technically no, it's going the same way, but.

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to know if it was all backwards, you're.

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Speaker 3: Still you're still in the middle of the cart, Whether

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Speaker 3: whether you're going the right way or wrong way.

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Speaker 4: There you go. That's fair, that's awesome, it's good.

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Speaker 3: Weird, it's it's weird to drive over there. As a

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Speaker 3: grown up, I will tell you that. It's great to

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Speaker 3: be back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in case you missed it. Uh, the Astros have

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Speaker 1: had a very roller coaster first thirteen games of this season. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They are one game below five hundred at six and seven.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They are in Seattle as we speak, enjoying a You know,

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Speaker 1: the phrase gets overused, I think much needed off day,

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Speaker 1: But if any team meet it an off day after

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Speaker 1: what just transpired, it is this team. They spent it

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Speaker 1: in Seattle, gonna do their own thing. But Josh, since

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Speaker 1: we have not had you on since the season started,

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Speaker 1: so I guess from what you have been able to

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Speaker 1: watch from across the pond and what you've gathered, what

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Speaker 1: are your initial takeaways from it? It's thirteen games. Don't

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Speaker 1: want to overreact one way or the other, but what

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Speaker 1: have you taken away from what you've seen from thirteen games?

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Speaker 1: This Astros team.

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Speaker 3: Loved what I saw at the gate, as I think

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Speaker 3: everybody did. I mean, that was a fun homestand to

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Speaker 2: Everywhere you go.

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Speaker 3: You got, gosh, just the sweep alone, it was a

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Speaker 3: then just guys going down like flies. Man, it's just

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Speaker 3: like man that here we go again, feeling like, man,

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Speaker 3: we figured out everything offensively and now.

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Speaker 2: We're just we're just falling apart.

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Speaker 3: Injuries are adding up now already, and you know, it

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Speaker 3: is still early, Thank goodness, it's still two weeks in

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Speaker 3: the season, so you really can't panic too too much yet.

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Speaker 2: But I mean.

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Speaker 3: There's definitely some worry and concern going on right now

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up kind of the emotional toll

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Speaker 1: or just kind of you know, as you see guys

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Speaker 1: Myers had to exit the game at Course Field. From

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Speaker 1: a player's perspective, just what does that do when you

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Speaker 1: see guys that you're counting on, Guys that you spend

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty one hundred and eighty five days

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Speaker 1: a year with even longer than that get hurt and

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Speaker 1: what kind of is how deflating is that? Like, how

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Speaker 1: do you guys, how do you recover from that? Because

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Speaker 1: you understand that injuries are part of the game, Like,

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna get hurt. It's an unfortunate thing that

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Speaker 1: happens in the game. But this is a group that's

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Speaker 1: spent the entire almost all of spring. Any interview you

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Speaker 1: did was you know, all we got to do is

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Speaker 1: stay healthy. If we stay healthy and we get out

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Speaker 1: there like we got it, and they just haven't been

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Speaker 3: I think it's hard breaking for your teammate anyway, no

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Speaker 3: matter where you're at in the season, to see a

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like it takes the breath out of

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Speaker 3: guys continue to do their job. Other guys step up

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, man, it's it's it's tough.

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Speaker 3: It's a tough one. It's a tough pill to swallow

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Speaker 3: felt like and then you know, obviously with the with

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Speaker 3: what else do we have to do to figure this out?

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Speaker 3: What do we got to do to switch our luck around?

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Speaker 3: So to be like, what do we need to do

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Speaker 3: to just turn this turn this page and get everybody

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Speaker 4: And as much as we want to talk about, you know,

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Speaker 4: baseball being an individual sport, there is something to be

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Speaker 4: said about just the vibes of a clubhouse at any

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Speaker 4: you walk through that? Like, what's you know, as a player,

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Speaker 4: what's the different between playing on a team that is

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Speaker 4: you know just you know, like a twenty seventeen Astros

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Speaker 3: Well, I was a part of the twenty twenty one

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Speaker 3: there's there's those times where you know some guys don't

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Speaker 3: still force enough. So they're a really good ball team

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Speaker 3: and they have at the end of the day, you're

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Speaker 3: if that don't get you fired up enough to go

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Speaker 3: find some ways to motivate you in ways I don't

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Speaker 3: and if it don't work out a dozen like obviously

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Speaker 3: we want to win every day, but these guys should

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Speaker 3: have that mentality of going, look, this is still a

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Speaker 3: We just have to if we have to score ten

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Speaker 3: to is a lineup we need to step up, and

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Speaker 3: there's gonna be days where pitching is gonna pick them

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Speaker 3: inside of it of it too, not just out there

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Speaker 4: Okay, so before Chandler asks an important question, allow me

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Speaker 4: it's a vibes and energy kind of thing that Astros were.

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Speaker 4: right now, so you need a vibe and energy shift.

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Speaker 4: Allow me to paint a word picture for you. So

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Speaker 4: on Wednesday, April first, the Astros played the last game

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Speaker 4: They're five and two, they're feeling incredible. Does anyone know

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Speaker 4: what happened two hours after that game? No, Well, I'll

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Speaker 4: tell you. Houston's very own Artemis two launched into space,

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Speaker 4: sending four humans further than anyone has ever been before.

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Speaker 4: That takes a lot of vibes and energy, and I

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Speaker 4: scientific achievement for all humanity deserves all of the vibes

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Speaker 4: and energies that a town can give, and Houston is

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Speaker 4: all behind that. Would you like to know when the

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Speaker 4: Artemis land off the coast of San Diego. It is Friday.

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Speaker 4: It is Friday at seven pm Central, two hours before

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Speaker 4: the next game starts for the Astros. The vibes can

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Speaker 4: switch back. It lifted men to space, and now it's

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Speaker 4: coming back for the Astros. The Astro teams.

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Speaker 3: Our assessment right there, right during comes back, right during

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Speaker 3: batting practice. What better way to get get everything activity.

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Speaker 4: They're ready now, they're ready for launch. You know it's

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Speaker 4: it's time to go.

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Speaker 1: One thing that you mentioned, Josh. Serious by the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they went to space. It was awesome. We were

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Speaker 4: all focused. But it's it's time to get back to baseball.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just another example of something you mentioned, Josh

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Speaker 1: about like how you know what you don't know goes

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Speaker 1: on behind closed doors in the clubhouse, like I'm here

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Speaker 1: to tell you, And it's been written about and we've

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Speaker 1: seen it, like Chris Javier is Brian a Brady's best friend,

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Speaker 1: Like they are inseparable, they're together a lot. Brian a

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Speaker 1: Brady's already gone through it this year. Watching his best

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Speaker 1: friend get hurt probably doesn't help matters. And look, these

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Speaker 1: every day and play, regardless of whether you know their

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Speaker 1: think a lot of times we do forget that human

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Speaker 1: So, Josh, you went to spring training and you came

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Speaker 3: It's almost like I know what I'm talking about at

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, you know, when I talked to and maybe

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Speaker 1: What if I would? What would you have said, Josh,

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Speaker 1: What does it say like, but in all seriousness, what

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Speaker 1: One way for fifteen years where he hasn't really had

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Speaker 1: Look, he's still going to be an aggressive hitter. I

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Speaker 1: would ever see from a guy that you know, has

438
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Speaker 1: done it that way his whole career and is going

439
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Speaker 1: to go to the Hall of Fame because of it.

440
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 3: Just shows you how smart Hosel two really is and

441
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,199
Speaker 3: how great of a player he can be, because that's

442
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Speaker 3: why he's staying in this game for so long. Yeah,

443
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 3: now he's he's getting older and this is probably the

444
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 3: first time in his career he's had to change this

445
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 3: whole concept of going to that plate and doing these things.

446
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 3: So but that just shows the level of maturity he's

447
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 3: gotten too in his in his career and just understanding, like, look,

448
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 3: my bat speed isn't as fast as it used to be.

449
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 3: I can't get to those ninety six ones out of

450
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 3: the zone anymore. So I've got to learn to get

451
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 3: those ninety six's end zone to where I can act

452
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 3: to do damage.

453
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Speaker 2: So it just shows that one.

454
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 3: You know, when you get aged in this game, everything

455
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 3: kind of tends to slow down, So you've got to

456
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 3: kind of make sure you hold those skills a little

457
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: bit better and if you have to change it, and

458
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 3: that's what you have to do to stay in the

459
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 3: game longer. And we always say it's a game of adjustments,

460
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 3: and he's just finally having to make an adjustment for

461
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 3: the first time in his fantastic career.

462
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Speaker 1: It's been It's been incredible, and I mean Carlos Carre

463
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: has talked about it. The ABS certainly has played a

464
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Speaker 1: part in it because Jose's zone is smaller. It's smaller

465
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Speaker 1: than the other guys when they measure the ABS, and

466
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Speaker 1: he knows he has challenges in his back pocket, so

467
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: he's not gonna he's able. Carlo's put it best, he

468
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: goes it is hard to land pitches in that small

469
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Speaker 1: of his zone, and Jose has embraced that, and I

470
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of just he's also playing

471
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: complimentary baseball too. It's a lot of you know, he

472
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 1: has yourd on behind him, so he knows if he

473
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Speaker 1: just gets on base then it can and getting on

474
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: base don't have to be hitting a first pitch single.

475
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: It can be you know, make the pitcher work a

476
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Speaker 1: little bit. But it's been, it's been. It has been refreshing,

477
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Speaker 1: I think, and I'm sure you would agree, Tyler. It's

478
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 1: been refreshing to watch not only just al Tuove, but

479
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: this entire lineup. You know, Sands a couple games have

480
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: just one through nine, and even if the the bats

481
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 1: aren't maybe productive, you're seeing a plan, you're seeing an approach,

482
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: and you're seeing a consistent through line one through nine

483
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: of an approach each game.

484
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that the ABS is a bigger

485
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 4: deal than I think we're talking about without two V because,

486
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Speaker 4: as we talked about for so long, he has had

487
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 4: a strike zone that shouldn't look like that, you know,

488
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 4: it should be a better looking strike zone, and it

489
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 4: just hasn't been, uh, you know, because he's short, and

490
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 4: so now having like confirmed this is exactly what your

491
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 4: strike zone will look like I would imagine freeze him

492
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 4: up some too, to not have to think, well, I'll

493
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 4: just swing it everything because I'm not sure what a

494
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 4: strike is today or you know, stuff like that. But

495
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 4: I mean, his zone was different than it than it

496
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 4: should have been, so I think that has something to

497
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 4: do with the success that he's having. Just patience wise.

498
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: Josh, what have you thought of the ABS seeing it

499
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: in action, seeing it in a big league game, Just

500
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: how the flow is, just how quick it is. What

501
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,479
Speaker 1: have been your thoughts on a BS.

502
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: I.

503
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: I've enjoyed it because you're sitting there on the edge

504
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: of your seat almost every time wait for somebody to

505
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 3: be able to call it, and you can sell you

506
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 3: one about it, you know, embarrassing umpires. We all, we've

507
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 3: all seen the CB Buckner game where everything was just

508
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 3: falling apart. But you know, I'm also biased to it because, like,

509
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 3: if you're going to use it, I feel like it

510
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: should just be calling strikes for the umpires anyway, like

511
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 3: put a put a microphone or put a piece in

512
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: their ear automatically hits the zone.

513
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: He can just make the right call right away.

514
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: Shove our hands of an ABS challenge system them and

515
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 3: get it that way. So if we're going to use it,

516
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: I think we need to use it more to a

517
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: fuller extent as opposed to just having challenges in the

518
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 3: back pocket. That way, you just get it right right

519
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 3: out of the gate. We can move on. But I

520
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 3: like where it's going. I think I think it's good

521
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: for the game because you need them in those big

522
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: situations on both sides of the baseball.

523
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: Oh, I think I think that's coming. I think I

524
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: think this was just an introduction. Like I think, I

525
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: think we're going to see it used uniformly. I don't know.

526
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: I don't have a timeline on that, but I think

527
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: it's gone over so well that I do think we're

528
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: going to get to that point at some point. But Tyler,

529
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: the interesting thing for me has been, like, look, CB,

530
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: we've known for a very long time that ce B

531
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: Buckner struggles to call balls and strikes like That's that's

532
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: been very well known. And if Angel Hernandez was still umpiring,

533
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: it'd be the same thing with Angel. But you know,

534
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: set those two guys aside, set cebe aside because he's

535
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: the only active one. Like, for me, time the interesting

536
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: like these guys are really good at their jobs. I

537
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: think that. I think, if anything, it's reinforced maybe how

538
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: good these guys are at calling balls and strikes, because

539
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot a lot of times where

540
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: like like, there have not been a ton of overturns,

541
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: and it's not as if their constant overturns either. I think,

542
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: if anything, this maybe has helped umpires and given fans

543
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: maybe an appreciation of how good these guys are behind

544
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Speaker 1: the plate.

545
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're really good. It's so I think I might

546
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,239
Speaker 4: have told this story before, but one one summer I

547
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 4: was I was teaching, and Alicia was still she had

548
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 4: a different job, so I was off throughout the summer

549
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 4: and I umpired like a little league game, you know,

550
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 4: throughout the summer, I did a bunch of that. It's

551
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 4: so hard to call eleven year olds throwing forty miles

552
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 4: an hour. I cannot fathom sitting behind the plate and

553
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: trying to call that. I mean, I know, Josh, obviously,

554
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 4: when it's just your profession, you've done it like all that,

555
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 4: But it's wild to me how good you can be

556
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 4: at that.

557
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: I'm with you, I mean, I've done tho league games

558
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: as well. In the all seasons, but I mean you

559
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: got to think not only like you gotta think it's hitters,

560
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: like it's what we do.

561
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: But like at the end of the day, like.

562
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: Umpires have to do it and they don't even know

563
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: what's coming, Like they're just back there going, man, I

564
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: hope the catcher just makes this play, Like you don't

565
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 3: know if you're getting a hundred at your eyes or

566
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 3: if you're getting like the banger that.

567
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: Goes on the outside corner.

568
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 3: So like we can, we can give them a hard

569
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: time all we want to, but these guys job is

570
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: super freaking hard. Like let's not forget that. You got

571
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 3: to respect these guys and tip your cap to them. Yeah,

572
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: I've yelled at plenty of them without all of them

573
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: on the roster in my life. But you know, when

574
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: the competitive competitiveness, you know, hits you, it's a little different.

575
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, like these are

576
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: guys that have to be respected because that's a that's

577
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: a super hard job.

578
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Speaker 1: How much would you if you were still playing, and

579
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: how much do you think you'd use abs?

580
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: No, I mean I'd probably say that I probably wouldn't

581
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: abuse trying to abuse my power I'd probably be the

582
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: one who'd be like, man, I can't waste this in

583
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: the third when I can if I need to use

584
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: it in the seventh or eight, it's great, But you know,

585
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: I don't want to take that away from somebody else either. Well,

586
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: if it's just something that's stupidly ridiculous, probably not a lot.

587
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 5: Well.

588
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: The interesting thing is Joseel Tuvey said in spring training

589
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna use it at all, and uh that

590
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: that went by the wayside very quickly. So I guess

591
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: things change as you get into the uh, as you

592
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: get into the heat of battle.

593
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: The clear obvious ones though, the clear obviousness you got it,

594
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: I mean you have to.

595
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's been the interesting about watching,

596
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: like how teams are strategizing using them, like unless it

597
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: is just an egregious miss, Like you're not really seeing

598
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: a ton of challenges in the first three or four

599
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: innings unless it's like a two strike pitch that's an

600
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: egregious mess and then okay, okay, we get to that.

601
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: But you're seeing less and less challenges earlier in games,

602
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: just so teams can have them later when they matter,

603
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: and you're seeing them less early in counts, Like I mean,

604
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: if if it's a first pitch, sure, if it's like

605
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: a one to zero count and it's a one and

606
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: it goes to one to one like that, you maybe

607
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: want to save that for whether it's like a one

608
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: to two count and it's going to be a strikeout.

609
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: Like you're seeing how teams are developing their strategies and

610
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: again that I think that's what the first you know,

611
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: month or so of this is for, is to see

612
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: the first month of the season. Like we talked about

613
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: everybody getting in the rhythm, you gotta get in rhythm

614
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: with the abs too, to understand when you can use them,

615
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: when it's prudent to use them, and you know, honestly

616
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: suffer some consequences when you don't have challenges late in

617
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: the game. That happened to the Astros on their homestand

618
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: they were out I think it was in the second

619
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: game of the year. They were out of challenges by

620
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: like the fourth inning and al Tuove got wrung up

621
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: on a pitch that was not in the strike zone,

622
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: so did Paratus and they didn't have any challenges left.

623
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: And sometimes you got to you gotta live and learn sometimes,

624
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: and they did on that one, but that's been interest

625
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: to watch too. So a couple housekeeping things before we

626
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: get to something that's kind of related to the Astros

627
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: but kind of more broad baseball terms. The Ashers are

628
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: going to call up JP France and Taylor Tremmel before

629
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: Friday's game in Seattle. Tremmel is going to take Jake

630
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: Myers's roster spot. JP France, in all likelihood will take

631
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: Christian Javier's roster spot. Spencer Araghetti, as we speak, is

632
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: pitching for Triple A sugar Land. We're recording this on

633
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: Thursday night. That means he is not going to pitch

634
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: in the Mariners series. Again, that was something they were

635
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: talking about. They didn't really know how they wanted to

636
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: work it out, but I would imagine he will enter

637
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: the rotation during the homestand in that series against the

638
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: Rockies when the Ashers returned from Seattle. So if he

639
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: pitched on Thursday, that would be, you know, Tuesday, he

640
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: would be on regular rest. Wednesday he would be on

641
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: one day extra of rest. So you'll probably see Spencer

642
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: Araghetti more on that homestand that probably leads you to wonder,

643
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: what in the hell are the Ashers going to do

644
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: for the final two games of the Mariner series. Emi

645
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: is going to pitch on Friday. Lance mccullors will pitch

646
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: on Saturday. I would imagine they're going to probably run

647
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: Cody Bolton back out there on Sunday in an opener

648
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: type role. Maybe he stretched out sixty seventy pitches. I

649
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: don't know if they'll do a traditional piggyback with Ryan

650
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: Weiss like they did in Colorado earlier this week, but

651
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: that seems like the most logical thing to do. And

652
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: then I think Mike Burrows would start on Sunday, so

653
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: that would probably be how they line it up again.

654
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: I think JP France is coming up in more of

655
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: a long relief kind of bulk inning role. Maybe they

656
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: do that behind Cody Bolton on Saturday. Not sure, but

657
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: France has worked mainly as a reliever in Sugarland. He's

658
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: a multi inning reliever, so they could I don't know,

659
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: maybe they could use JP Frances as an opener and

660
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: then bulk behind him. We talked about it on the

661
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: last with Tyler. They're gonna have to get creative, like

662
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: this is not going to be a situation where they

663
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: just have four assigned starters and it's like, take us

664
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: as deep as you can. They're gonna have to be

665
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: creative with this.

666
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

667
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, Well we will have to see. But you know,

668
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 4: as we've talked about, they're going to be relying a

669
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: lot on guys that I don't think they were planning

670
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: on having to rely on this much this early.

671
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, they need tetsu Emi to pitch very well on Friday.

672
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: They need Lance. We talked about it. They need Emaia

673
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: mcculors to to really really to pitch well. Josh, we

674
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: didn't talk to you after Lance's first outing. The second

675
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: one in Sacramento is a little bit iffy, but that

676
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 1: outing against the Red Sox at home just nine punch outs,

677
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: six innings. We don't want to say it looked like

678
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: vintage Lance because it wasn't vintage Lance because he's a

679
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: completely different pitcher now than he was way back when.

680
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: But that had to make your heart happy. That had

681
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: to as somebody that's played with him, that's been in

682
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: the grind with him, that's seen him from day one.

683
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: That had to make you happy to see him show

684
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: that that he still got it in him.

685
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, super happy for him, because especially from a guy

686
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: who came out saying early on and even though leaving

687
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: the post game saying, I'm just you know, I'm not

688
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: worried about the past. I'm not worried about the future.

689
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: I'm just going out there and doing things. So that

690
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: seems to be a good, good mindset for him. But

691
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: super happy to see him do it, you know, consistently,

692
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: something we didn't really get to see from him in

693
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: a long time.

694
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: So I know he was fired up. We got to see,

695
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: you know.

696
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: Shades of old lance from you know, reaction after the

697
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: Carlos Korea play at shortstop, like that was reminiscing of

698
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: back when I played way back when. So that was

699
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: good to see that that fire is still in there.

700
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: And you know, this is just a sign the show like, hey,

701
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 3: I'm a different guy, I'm a new pitcher now, but

702
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: I can still find ways to do this thing and

703
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: that should be a great way for him moving forward. Sacramento, Sacramento,

704
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: it's not real big league baseball movement behind here we go.

705
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: Let's let's go back to a big league ball park

706
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: and get back in the zone.

707
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: Against a team that cannot hit. The Mariners are they're

708
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: really really scuffling at the plate right now, Josh Naylor

709
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: doesn't have an extra base hit. Julio is Julio is

710
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: a traditional slow starter. He is, you know, and he's

711
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: living up to that name. Cal Rawley hit his first

712
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: homer in Texas this past weekend. He's off to a

713
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: slow start. The Mariners got swept in a series where

714
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: they're pitching, I believe allowed seven runs in three games

715
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: and they got swept. That's a tough that's a tough

716
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: one to swallow. What would be worse, Tyler, you're a

717
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: fan here, what would be worse losing the way the

718
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: Astros are losing in terms of like just slugging out

719
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: slug but they can't they can't pitch, or what the

720
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: Mariners are doing now where they're just they're they're running out,

721
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: they're getting great starting pitching, they're getting great pitching up

722
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: and down, but that they just can't hit.

723
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: Uh for one game, bad hitting is worse for his season.

724
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 4: Bad pitching is so much more moralizing because nothing ever

725
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: feels safe when you're when you know you can be

726
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: up six to one and just you're just waiting for

727
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 4: something to happen. That I mean, that's why we talk

728
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 4: about like you know, great bullpens are kind of the

729
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 4: last piece of a good team. It's kind of wasted

730
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: on a on a bad team. But when you have

731
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 4: just shut down pitching, it just feels like you're in

732
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 4: every game. And so, yeah, day of I would say

733
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 4: watching bad hitting is way worse. But there's yeah, there's

734
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 4: nothing like watching bad pitching that is that is rough

735
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: to watch over an entire season.

736
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: All right, So before we get out of here, I

737
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: want to I want to not address I want to

738
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: talk about something that JD. Martinez talked about yesterday. So JD. Martinez,

739
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: uh just got hired as a special advisor in the

740
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: Mets front office and special advisor special assistant, like those

741
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: roles are those are usually roles reserved for players that

742
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: are just out of that are just off the field,

743
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: that want to stay in the game and maybe see

744
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: what they want to do next, whether it's coaching, whether

745
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: it's getting into a front office, whether it's maybe managing.

746
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 6: So JD.

747
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: Martinez took this role with the Mets. He met with

748
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: He took this role with the Mets and met with

749
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: the New York media a couple of days ago, and

750
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: he was asked what like prompted this, like, when he

751
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: was a player, did he ever consider you know that

752
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: this that being in a special assistant role, that staying

753
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: in the game is something that he wanted to do.

754
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: And I'm going to let you listen to JD's answer.

755
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: It's about a minute long. Credit to S and Y

756
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: and credit to the Mets for for putting us out

757
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: there on YouTube when we were able to download it.

758
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let you listen in and then I

759
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: want Josh to weigh in on what he hears. But

760
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: here's JD Martinez, former astro, talking about why he wanted

761
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: to stay in the game and become a special advisor

762
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: in the Mets system.

763
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Speaker 4: When you were a player, when did you kind of

764
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 4: started racing that leadership role?

765
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 2: And then I just planed, did you decide?

766
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 7: It's actually a funny story, good question. When I was

767
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 7: at the astros, I remember I was in a bad spot.

768
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 7: I was, you know, an up and down guy, guy

769
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 7: that barely played. I would reach out to the veteran guys,

770
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 7: and at that time it was a little different. You know,

771
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 7: the veteran guys were they weren't very nice. You would say, there,

772
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 7: this SE's not nice.

773
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: It was a good term.

774
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 7: But I remember seeing that and asking questions and them

775
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 7: kind of never answering it, and they kind of blowing

776
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 7: me off, and you know, just making my life a nightmare.

777
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 7: I remember saying, I was like, you know what, if

778
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 7: God ever blesses me where I'm in that position, I'm

779
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 7: never going to treat a young guy like that, and

780
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 7: I'll always answer any questions and help them out any

781
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 7: which way, because I remember how helpless that feeling was,

782
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 7: and you know, going through that whole process. So you know,

783
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 7: when things changed for me, and you know, I kind

784
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 7: of grew as a player and the same situation happened,

785
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 7: I didn't. I'd lean towards the other side more, all right.

786
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: So obviously that in the way, this in the way,

787
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: you know, twenty twenty six and the media climate is

788
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: that turned into people with headlines saying JD Martinez's time

789
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: with the Astros was quote nightmare. They misconstrued the They

790
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: either didn't listen to the quote and didn't understand its

791
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: full meaning, or they just completely just needed clicks. So whatever, Josh,

792
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: you're a year older than JD. You debuted in two

793
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: thousand and nine. JD debuted in twenty eleven. I think

794
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 1: it's a fascinating discussion to have about how the game

795
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: has changed in terms of, you know, being you were

796
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: in JD's shoes, You were a young player coming up

797
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: at a time where you know, baseball was a lot

798
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: more of a hierarchical game, as you had to earn

799
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: your stripes, you had to earn you had to do

800
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: a lot of grunt work. I don't know how to

801
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: put it nicely, but it was not a It was

802
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: not maybe the more more welcoming environment that it is now.

803
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: Just when you hear talk about that, can you relate

804
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: to that at all? And just how much the game

805
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: has evolved since then.

806
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: I can't relate to not being answered when asked, when

807
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: questions were asked. I wasn't treated like like the way

808
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 3: he talked about either. I came into a very fortunate

809
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: Red Sox clubhouse full of veterans. Yes, I received plenty

810
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: of hazing, stuff that can be said, stuff that can't

811
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 3: be said and repeated, but nothing to where I was

812
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: ever disrespected. I never felt disrespected as a human. I

813
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: never felt disrespected as a player. They gave me a

814
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: hard time, yes, but you know it was another like

815
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: you said, I was earning respect by doing small hazing task,

816
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: whether it was you know, carrying beer post game to

817
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: the bus for.

818
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: Guys to the plane.

819
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: You know, Wakefield had me make him sandwiches for like

820
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: a month straight, just little odd things you know, could

821
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: really chap some people's butts if they took it the

822
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 3: wrong way. But you know what, like when I came up,

823
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: I was just so happy to be in the show.

824
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 2: I was in.

825
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: Finway Park at you know, twenty two years old, twenty

826
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 3: three years old, making Tim Wakefield sandwiches like I could

827
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: have been making my own sandwiches and triple A. So

828
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be excited going and making Tim Wakefield sandwich

829
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: in the show. So but you know, I was very

830
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: lucky because one, I think it is because we were

831
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: winning and everybody was just about winning, so that was

832
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: a big thing.

833
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: But anytime I had a question, I was I was lucky.

834
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: I was locker next to Pedroia.

835
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: Pedroia taught me a lot about, you know, making making

836
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 3: sure I got my body ready for every.

837
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: Day and how to do that.

838
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 3: And you know, I had Big Poppy who was there

839
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: every day, you know, just kind of putting his arm

840
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: around me every day, talking to me about everything, picking

841
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 3: my brain and just taking in every bit of information

842
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: I could.

843
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 2: So I never got the disrespected feeling.

844
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: I never got, you know, in his shoes, I so

845
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: to speak. But back then everybody got their own fair

846
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 3: share of hazing.

847
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: But sounds like.

848
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 3: JD got got putt putting the well for no apparent reason.

849
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: And that's really that's really, it really sucks to have

850
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: him go through that, because no players should have to

851
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: go through that.

852
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: The interesting thing you said is that Red Sox team

853
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: you were on was winning, and the twenty eleven Astros

854
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: that JD. Martinez debuted with were not winning. That was

855
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: not a team that they were not trying to win.

856
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: That at that point, like the teardown and the tank

857
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: was very much engaged. So that probably had a little

858
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: bit to do with it. That this was a clubhouse

859
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: of guys that probably looked around and you guys aren't stupid,

860
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: like you understood that, like you could come to the

861
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: ballpark every day and try to convince yourself that you know,

862
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: we're trying to win today. But but no, like the

863
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: product that they were running out there, that the players

864
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: that they had in there, and the way the roster

865
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 1: was constructed was they were not trying to win, and

866
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: I think that probably had a little bit to do

867
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: with it as well, that you know, this was a

868
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: clubhouse that I'm I wasn't in the clubhouse, so I'm

869
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: not going to try to look at who maybe JD

870
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: was referring to. I mean, you can go in Baseball

871
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: Reference and look up the whole roster if you want, and.

872
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: I have it up.

873
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: Yep, got a couple. I have a couple that come

874
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: to mind.

875
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: But it could be just a lot of salt salty

876
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: people that are just like, you know, I'm in an

877
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: environment where and you have to remember too, this was

878
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: also at the advent of the time where you know,

879
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: Jeff Luno had just gotten in there, and really he

880
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: was doing some things that were not done and now

881
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: we accepted as common practice, right of you know, they

882
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: were they were shifting, they were they were not signing

883
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: like they were. They were tanking. They were tanking to

884
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: rebuild the thing, and before that that had not really

885
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: been done to that scale, to that level. So you've

886
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: got a clubhouse of guys that is like, what in

887
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: the hell is going on? And then you've got young

888
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: guys like JD come up and he's probably like trying

889
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: to feel his way out in the big leagues, and

890
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: these dudes are just like, I don't want to deal

891
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: with this, Like we're already pissed off, We're already not winning,

892
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: we already got a place that's like gonna either trade

893
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: us or release us. When these kids from the farm

894
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: come up like we're done. So I think that's a

895
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: big difference as well that the twenty eleven Astros were

896
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: a disaster and twenty twelve to twenty thirteen as well.

897
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: Winning makes everybody happier, yes, everybody. So yes, it plays

898
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: a big role when when you're able to win, because

899
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: I've been in a clubhouse where they don't.

900
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: Win and it's quiet and.

901
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: Not fun at all, and then obviously been in some

902
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: very fun clubhouses, so it definitely brings the positivity out

903
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 3: of everybody in there when you are winning.

904
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: And to bring it back to the Astros real quick,

905
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: you know. And of course it's like it did a

906
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: lightning rod because a player mentioned the Astros in a

907
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: bad light, so everyone everyone just pounced right. Astras fans

908
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: got very sensitive fans of other teams that I'll point

909
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: in laughing at the Astros. But this is not new.

910
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put up a quote if you watch on YouTube.

911
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: This is from Lance mccullors said this in twenty twenty two,

912
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: after the Astros won Game three of the ALCS and

913
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: in New York, and here it is. He said, we

914
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: didn't have the greatest culture in twenty sixteen. We got

915
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: guys like Brian McCann, Carlos Beltron, I'm gonna add Josh

916
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: Reddick in there, and they let us know that we're

917
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: here to win. We're here to create a family in

918
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: this clubhouse. It's not about hazing guys. It's not about

919
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: giving guys a hard time or making guys earn their stripes.

920
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: If you're wearing this uniform, you're one of us. If

921
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: you've been here one day, been here twenty years, We're

922
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: gonna laugh, be happy, smile, and we're gonna show up

923
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: every day ready to play. And I think we need

924
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: to have that mindset that makes everyone equals. It doesn't

925
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: matter how much money you make. And I think it's

926
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: worked here. Did Josh got when you got to the

927
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: Astros in twenty seventeen, Like, were you aware of kind

928
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: of what because that is something that derailed them a

929
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: little bit in twenty fourteen to twenty and obviously JD

930
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: mentioned in twenty eleven, but as they started to get good,

931
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: the one thing that they really did not have, they

932
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: did not have a ton of veteran leadership in there.

933
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: And they got you, they got McCann and they got

934
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: Beltron and that twenty seven and that off season going

935
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: into twenty seventeen for that reason, to to for lack

936
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: of a better word, get some adults in there, and

937
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: to was that was that communicated to you, Like I

938
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: guess as you got in there, is that something kind

939
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: of learned as you kind of were making your way

940
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: around the clubhouse the first few months.

941
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: Well, AJ made it pretty clear the day I signed,

942
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: you know, he talked to me about, you know, hey,

943
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: we're getting you. We're announcing you know, the trade of McCann,

944
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: like right after or right before I can't remember, Like,

945
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: we're getting you two guys. We know, we're getting you

946
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: two guys to come in and just kind of control

947
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 3: the guys, get them and just show them how to win.

948
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: Because when you look at the track records of you know,

949
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 3: the three of us, we had a very long track

950
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: record of winning and play off baseball like and fresh like,

951
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: although all of us had come off of playoff appearances

952
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 3: with good teams, so like we knew what had timpted

953
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 3: to win and that was the that was the mentality

954
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: we're going to bring. Like, look, you guys are young

955
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: and new to this this league, but damn it, we're

956
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: we're still a dang good team and we're gonna show

957
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: you guys what it takes to win every day. If

958
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: we don't have that expectation, like, then we're doing something wrong.

959
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: You have to come in here expecting to win. And

960
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: with those guys coming especially like Brian was such a

961
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: great loud voice. I mean I'm loud. I'm loud too,

962
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: but you know, just having a guy like that, because

963
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 3: you know, I grew up watching these guys. Like, yeah,

964
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: they call me the veteran, but like I literally was

965
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 3: sitting on the couch in high school in college watching

966
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: the two guys that we had just got too, so

967
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: like I was still able to learn off those guys

968
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: as well as learning off the younger guys. But like

969
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: having those two guys there kind of revitalize getting me

970
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: to that role as well, because like these are two

971
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: guys I watched on TV growing up, So still a

972
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: cool feeling for me, especially being a Braves fan, like

973
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: to be a Brian mccannon teammate, to have him as

974
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 3: a teammate, Like holy, that was pretty badass.

975
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: Only one you could censor the You could censor the

976
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: first verb, but not the second ond.

977
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 4: Good good, But yeah, that's censorship. He's still adjusting coming back, right.

978
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: But like you mentioned that, you had to do little

979
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: little stuff as a work and that still happens in

980
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: the Astros clubhouse, Like every Sunday morning at home, there

981
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: better be Shipley Donuts in the in the food room.

982
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 1: And that's the guy with the least amount of service

983
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: time or the guys with the least amount of service time,

984
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: that's their responsibility.

985
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: Internet, Did you notice he said it correctly? If you're

986
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 4: gonna if you're gonna get onto Chandler about things, you

987
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 4: better notice that he said it Shipley, Like give him credit.

988
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna say who it is. But

989
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: there a first couple of UH games at home this year,

990
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: I've seen a player, you know, bringing coffee to certain

991
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: players at a certain time, knowing when the knowing what

992
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: kind of coffee they need getting it from the food

993
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: room and bringing it to their locker and having it ready. So, yes,

994
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: there's little stuff that happens like that, But I guarantee

995
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: you if that player needed something, if that player needed to,

996
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: you know, know why his swing was out of whack,

997
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: or why his slider wasn't biting the way it needed

998
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: to bite. Like I'm very confident in saying that anyone

999
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: in the Astros clubhouse would help him, and that there

1000
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: was no like, there's no individualistic there's no you know,

1001
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm making money. I'm making a lot of money. Screw you.

1002
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: I don't want to help you, like you're just in

1003
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: my way. Like I think that's where we have evolved,

1004
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: is that you know, Yes, I think there will always

1005
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: be a hierarchical part of baseball where if you know

1006
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: you have this much service time you went out, like

1007
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: there's a reason, there's a reason guys go on the

1008
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: first bus as opposed to the second bus, Like there's

1009
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: always going to be that kind of hierarchical separation. But

1010
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: I do think we have moved past maybe the figure

1011
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: it out on your own rook like I don't like

1012
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm not here to help you.

1013
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 3: There's so many more young guys in the game too now,

1014
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: Like I mean, gosh, we're looking, we're giving guys one

1015
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 3: hundred and forty eight million dollars and they played two

1016
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: career games.

1017
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 8: So but your ace right now has pitched too career games.

1018
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough, but still there's a lot more

1019
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 3: young guys in the game now. So it's kind of

1020
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 3: that that that way the game's gone now. So I mean,

1021
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: when these guys are you're kind of your your centerpiece

1022
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: for your team for most for the better part of

1023
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: the league. You got to keep these guys happy. You

1024
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: can't go out there and just give these guys and

1025
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 3: make them feel like dirt every day. You got to

1026
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: treat them like a you know, they're your teammates. Now

1027
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: that that part of the game is no longer here,

1028
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 3: we just have to learn to adapt and move on

1029
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: from that because you don't want guys like that. You

1030
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: don't want that coming out to any kind of extent.

1031
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 3: And now, like even said the year, like you look

1032
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 3: at the roster and you're like, man, well.

1033
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: Which which guy was was?

1034
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 3: You know, the bad guy on that team that just

1035
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 3: did this to a great person and a great hitter.

1036
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 3: So but yeah, it's sad that you hear more stories

1037
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: about that off camera than you do on camera, too,

1038
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 3: because there's probably tens of hundreds of guys who went

1039
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: to the same thing he had to go through. And

1040
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: that's really the bad part about it.

1041
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: You got that roster pulled up, Tyler, you got your uh,

1042
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: you got ideas in your head.

1043
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 4: Well, it was a Listen, the twenty eleven Astros were

1044
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: not a fun team to be around. There was a

1045
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 4: young man named Jose Altuve who played quite a bit

1046
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: that year, but you also had you know, Carlos Lee

1047
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 4: was the other kind of left fielder at the time,

1048
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 4: and this is thirty five year old Carlos Lee. Thirty

1049
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 4: five year old Carlos Lee who put up three point

1050
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 4: nine war.

1051
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: He banks, he banked.

1052
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 4: He still was still a really good hitter. But yeah,

1053
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 4: looking at that, you know, I don't know, it's not

1054
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 4: like the oldest team, but yeah, that that team must

1055
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 4: have been just such a bummer to be around. That's

1056
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 4: I mean, everybody got traded. That was I think the

1057
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 4: last year of Hunter Pence being on the team, and yeah,

1058
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 4: Oswalt was already gone at that point, Like it was.

1059
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 4: It was a rough time.

1060
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: JD came out Okay, not with the Astros, but j

1061
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: JD did quite well for himself after leaving, so did

1062
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: jose L TV. And the Ashlers will have to continue

1063
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: hoping that jose L Tuve continues to do well for

1064
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: himself because the offense is going to have to really

1065
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: come alive or stay alive this weekend and at T

1066
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: Mobile Park. Given the astros pitching constraints and injuries right now,

1067
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes big. You know, it's they'd

1068
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: rather win these games than lose them. But again, it's

1069
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: four games in April. If they get swept or if

1070
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: they sweep it's I don't think we're to the point

1071
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 1: of overreaction. Josh already told you players don't start caring

1072
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: until a month then, so be like the players and

1073
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: just understand that this first month is just kind of eyewash.

1074
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: Bear in mind too, that the twenty twenty four Astros

1075
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: started the year twelve and twenty four and made the playoffs,

1076
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: So anything can happen, and we will talk about it

1077
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: on Crush Shitty Territory when it does happen, but until

1078
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: then you can follow me on x at Chandler Underscore Room.

1079
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: You can follow Josh at j Red Dub Deuce and

1080
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: you can follow Tyler at Tyler C. Stafford. Please rate

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Speaker 1: and review us on Apple and Spotify. Please like the

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Speaker 1: YouTube video and like the YouTube channel subscribe there so

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Speaker 1: you can get notified every time we go live. This

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Speaker 1: is a weird series because they play a wrap around.

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Speaker 1: They play on Monday as well, So we'll do one

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Speaker 1: Sunday night recapping the first three games of this series.

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Speaker 1: Been understanding that there's a fourth one still to come,

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Speaker 1: but we'll have a lot to talk about by then.

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Speaker 1: We'll hopefully get some injury updates on a lot of

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Speaker 1: these guys. Will we'll see kind of how Joe A.

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Speaker 1: Spot and Josh Miller want to navigate this pitching staff,

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Speaker 1: this pitching staff that's missing a lot of missing a

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Speaker 1: lot of bullets right now. But we'll be back on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Until then, we will talk to you soon.

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Speaker 4: Good news everyone. I wind enough that everyone gets to

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Speaker 4: enjoy our great ending songs. Everybody clap bye Deally different

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Speaker 4: Bam Bam, samp Ban