WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Will McClay Joins The Show!

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<v Speaker 1>The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>the start. Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and

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<v Speaker 1>NEWI Scrugs. Ladies and gentlemen, it is a beautiful, beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>morning here in the DFW metro Plex. It's your boy,

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Church. That's your average box safety overhead, joined as

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<v Speaker 1>usual by the ultimate survivor, the cook himself. I seen

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<v Speaker 1>you on Instagram cooking it up. It looks pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>over Danny mccraig in the house as well. Our other counterpart,

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<v Speaker 1>NEWI Scrugs is on assignment big time. He's covering the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl, so you know he's left us hanging there

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<v Speaker 1>over here in the sw EC studios. But once again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the Players Lounge, brought to you by Hotels

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com and Danny. I'm gonna just jump right into

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<v Speaker 1>it because it's been on my mind. It's been on

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<v Speaker 1>my mind this these past couple of hours, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just for what do we see yesterday? And I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the Pro Bowl here, like when we was growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Sean Taylor was playing in their Schmack and punters.

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<v Speaker 1>You had guys given effort, tackling, guys were really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to go out there and win the MVP of this

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<v Speaker 1>game and show what they really have and give the

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<v Speaker 1>fans what they want. But yesterday, I mean, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>walkthroughs more intense than that. I mean, what's your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on this? Look? I didn't. Let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>Me turning on the Pro Bowl would have been something

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<v Speaker 1>that you should all be surprised about. One because one

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<v Speaker 1>because you already know you are you are a former player. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you something. If you go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and you get hurt in the Pro Bowl and have

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<v Speaker 1>to miss an extended period of time, you're gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>like a straight up. But you don't be like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like what was I thinking? Like? What was I thinking? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did I go out there? Was it worth it

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<v Speaker 1>for me to go out there? You're not making your

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<v Speaker 1>full check, right? You out there really to have a

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<v Speaker 1>good time and celebrate the fact that you played well

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<v Speaker 1>enough and people respected your game well enough to get

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<v Speaker 1>you voted into there. I'm not going out there to

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<v Speaker 1>get hurt talking about old school and then I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the old school dude. They man, you know back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day when yeah, that's old school dudes usually stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in old school. What they what they not? What they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>What they're not seeing is these dudes know each other

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<v Speaker 1>more than those old school dudes knew each other, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>dudes are working out together, they taking trips together, They

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, I'm back and forth. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these dudes are more than just associalists. This ain't they

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<v Speaker 1>first time meeting each other. Like they know each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they're not gonna go out there and what

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<v Speaker 1>are we talking about? They got other stuff to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So should we should should the least switch it up?

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<v Speaker 1>Should they switch it up to like a flag football

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<v Speaker 1>or like, you know, something like that. Feel like it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit more juice to it if that

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<v Speaker 1>was the case. But I mean, we're seeing guys out there.

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<v Speaker 1>They was they was catching the ball in the flats,

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<v Speaker 1>doing a little one two and then art let's tag

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<v Speaker 1>them off. Let's just I just I's the point of

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<v Speaker 1>playing the game. It's bro but the game is just

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<v Speaker 1>it is not a football game, all right, soot they said.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, just they should find a different way to

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<v Speaker 1>market it. It's not a football game. Dudes ain't about

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<v Speaker 1>to go out there and get tackled. So you can

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<v Speaker 1>be mad that you actidentally hurt. You hurt your potting

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<v Speaker 1>and he supposed to be working out in March like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just just standing there in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment that it happens, then somebody's gonna be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, that's crazy. Man. But he went out there

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<v Speaker 1>and played for the pro bo so so he said.

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<v Speaker 1>It's similar to to college kids opting out of the

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<v Speaker 1>out of their ball games when they're not in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the college football playoffs. Absolutely listen, they better be

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<v Speaker 1>looking them to show it up. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>dudes who were supposed to show up and they're like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, bro. So would you rather them like do

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<v Speaker 1>that or would you rather them show up and still

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<v Speaker 1>get the fans a little something to watch or you

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<v Speaker 1>just be a just want everybody to be like a man,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't doing it. I'm a Pro Bowl guy. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>staying at home. I'm not I'm not going out to

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas and do all that. All the crazy I'm with

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<v Speaker 1>you on now, because I understand you know, the the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, they want to market their brand out there,

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<v Speaker 1>so they want to have the fans enjoy it. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't want the fans go home and say, man, what

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<v Speaker 1>did I waste my money on this? But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it from the player's perspective as well. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you can't what if you go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and tearn ACL. I mean, it's so late in the season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's after the season, so you wouldn't be ready again

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<v Speaker 1>until maybe midway through the next season. So I understand

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<v Speaker 1>why the players, you know, take it lax and don't

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<v Speaker 1>really show any effort out there. I understand that case.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, I'm just like, why why you even

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<v Speaker 1>have the game? You're just making like a flag football

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<v Speaker 1>tournament seven or seven or something like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and that at least have a little bit more excitement

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<v Speaker 1>than going out there and playing two head touch fully padded.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's an NFL problem. But then you

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<v Speaker 1>also because I got to keep them blowing on because

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<v Speaker 1>I seen you all the old school dudes hate a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hate. So this year, specifically, dudes that play

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen games all right, some of these dudes got eliminated.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't even make the playoffs. So they at home

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<v Speaker 1>on the couch chilling with you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're like, all right, listen, hey, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you stay in because you got that Pro Bowl game

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, where where the film don't matter, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, The actual winning and losing it don't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Only reason they don't they don't complain about that in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. Uh, it's because one is in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. These dudes still have they in shape,

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<v Speaker 1>they still have to go out and play afterwards, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they only play hard in the full quarter, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. But all Star weekend it's set

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<v Speaker 1>up so differently to where it's like a true celebration

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<v Speaker 1>and pro Bo is just probably the season with like

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<v Speaker 1>think about the dudes who were done in decenting like

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<v Speaker 1>January Knights like bro so a month later I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go outare and do what? So should they put some

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<v Speaker 1>incentive on the game, like you know, I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>after these seasons, so it's not like they can say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever side wins. You know, the NFC gets

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<v Speaker 1>you know, home fill avantge or whatever. You can't really

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<v Speaker 1>do that because, um, you know, it's not in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the season. So should they put some type

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<v Speaker 1>of incentive like maybe money wise, maybe you know drafted. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know, because they gotta make

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<v Speaker 1>the game because right now there's no point in watch

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<v Speaker 1>it's done. But what you saw is what you're gonna get.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay that the people who really get something out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Pro Bowl, or the people who actually went to Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>the fans who went out there and they were able

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<v Speaker 1>to watch the skills and drills and get the autographs

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<v Speaker 1>from the guys that they wanted, those are the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are really getting some out of it, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I don't think it's anything you can do about

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<v Speaker 1>imagine going like you you're a gambler, you're in Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>you gamble on the game. I think they go and

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<v Speaker 1>then you see the effort that they're putting out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a bad gambler if that's what it was. And

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<v Speaker 1>you was going out there the bed on the Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bow knowing like this ain't the first time them dudes

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<v Speaker 1>was out there playing like that, all right, Like the

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<v Speaker 1>like remembering what Sean Taylor did. If that stuff happened

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<v Speaker 1>to they dudes are being some serious trouble, bro. There'll

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<v Speaker 1>be some real beef going on if somebody went out

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<v Speaker 1>there and smacked the receiver coming across the miner. Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, this ain't it ain't. It ain't the same.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't the same, old school dudes, it ain't the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all was out there wild the young the young. We

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<v Speaker 1>work smarter, not harder. All right, all these dudes they

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<v Speaker 1>at home, they're healthy, they're healthy with their family. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not in the hospital walking around because they tore se

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<v Speaker 1>reps of achilles. Like going hard for a Pro Bowl game. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>in the grand scheme of things, the game doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>anything to that, Like they already made it. Get you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, you're good. And by the way, the winning

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<v Speaker 1>team gets eighty kachka and then the losing team gets forty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little incentive. These are bro, these are Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl players. Bro. Nothing, Yeah, they got fine a grand

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they played for your offseason adventures. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Okay, how about this? How about that?

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<v Speaker 1>So now, so now you get a workout monus for

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred thousand. But now you can't even show up

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<v Speaker 1>the workout because you made eighty can't You can't show up,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you might lose your spot because you see

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<v Speaker 1>boys getting that's the right, that's right people getting white.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't let it be you. Exactly. The skills competition was

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<v Speaker 1>more compani exactly exactly CB. So before we dive into

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Dan Quinn and the comments Jerry May, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this skills because that's what I watched. To

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, once I turned on the real Pro Bowl game,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, you know I ain't watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't of them. So the skills challenge, we had two

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<v Speaker 1>of our guys competing. I think it was the fastest

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<v Speaker 1>man competition. I don't know if it was forty yards.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they were racing, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a forty forty. So the two players we had in

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<v Speaker 1>there Michael Parsons, Trademond Diggs, and the other two were

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<v Speaker 1>the Cheetah Tyreek Hill and Nick Chub, the running back

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<v Speaker 1>out of Cleveland. Now, going into this, I know Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Parsons ran what he were like a four to three

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<v Speaker 1>something in at the combat, so I know he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to show out. We know the type of guy

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<v Speaker 1>he is. He's a competitor. Anytime there's some type of

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<v Speaker 1>competitive juices going on, he wants all a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a young guy. He's young exactly. He's a young

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<v Speaker 1>guys that would have been my So going into that,

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<v Speaker 1>you saw what the guy was able to do in

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<v Speaker 1>that forty yard dash. Does that further cement him as

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<v Speaker 1>being one of the most explosive players, especially being a

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<v Speaker 1>rookie International Football League? I mean he was. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyreek didn't really trial like that. He came out that

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<v Speaker 1>the box jog and he had his full suit on,

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<v Speaker 1>so he really wasn't going like that. But thenz and

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck up. They were trying and that's a corner and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a running back going against a linebacker slash defensive end.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it further solidify anything for you and that in

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<v Speaker 1>that regard, No, sir, I mean for three or fourty three,

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<v Speaker 1>it don't matter what you play, all right. So once

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<v Speaker 1>once he see men of the fact that he was

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<v Speaker 1>running that fast, I wasn't surprised that he was there.

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<v Speaker 1>While I also wasn't surprised that Tyree Hill didn't sprint

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, Tyrek Hills a vent in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>He got nothing to prove. You could turn the film

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<v Speaker 1>on and see how fast is do this. All you

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<v Speaker 1>got to do is turn it on and see him

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<v Speaker 1>waving the dudes breaking ankles could touch. Even if let's

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<v Speaker 1>just take Tyrek tried like I'm really in these box,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really getting out. You think Parsons would have had

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<v Speaker 1>any chance to beat him? Now, I don't think it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a blowout of a race. But now

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrey Hill, Tyrek Hill. The race I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>see is Tyree Hill and Jamar Chase just just game

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<v Speaker 1>film game speed. Those are two dudes. When you turn

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<v Speaker 1>the film on and you watch how they just defeat

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<v Speaker 1>angles of guys and and then them dudes ain't slow

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<v Speaker 1>corners at all. And then that's what it like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>they're erasing angles out there like you see. I see.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched on that. I think it was they played

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati the first time during the regular season. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was week seventeen, and um, what's the no, no, no no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. It was the playoff game against the Bills

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<v Speaker 1>and Tyrek Hill caught that overtime pad or whatever my

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<v Speaker 1>man literally was piecing dudes out. They were five yards

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of him, so and he was piecing them out

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<v Speaker 1>five yards behind him. No one he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be erased that angle. I mean, that's pure speed. And

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<v Speaker 1>then like you said, Jamar chased the way he's his

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<v Speaker 1>ability to just gang ground on people. It's remarkable. That

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a hell of a race to check

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<v Speaker 1>out and and listen. This is how you know dudes

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<v Speaker 1>is fast. Right if your coach does not yell at

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<v Speaker 1>you on the sideline when you're getting burnt out. Anytime

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrek Hill line up at number three in a closed

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<v Speaker 1>formation with a tight end and he runs that over route,

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<v Speaker 1>you can automatically assume that he's going to be open

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody can run, you know, step for step with him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the coach is just like, dangn that go again.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't. You can't. You can't even want to ground.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't coach. You can't coach the dude the run faster.

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<v Speaker 1>Right if the d lid don't get there, Tyrek Hill

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<v Speaker 1>is able to outrun anybody who's covering him. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>how you know dudes is fast. When the coach is like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I got nothing. You remember we used to be like

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<v Speaker 1>called hamstring buster. Who used to be the hamstring buster.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a can breaking Yeah, I mean your hammies are

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<v Speaker 1>gone if you try to chase that man. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Baker used to be like, hey, man, y'all make

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<v Speaker 1>sure y'all stress for y'all get out there on that

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<v Speaker 1>field to day, because I'm telling you, dudes is coming. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>play play teen yards, I'll play twit. Yeah, whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>got to do to make sure this dude don't get

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<v Speaker 1>past you, because you know he's just that fast. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a hamstring buster. He's a hamstring buster all right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we take our first break, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple of minutes before that first one. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>dive into a little bit more Cowboys football. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more deeper into this now. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>with all the reports going out there, Miami didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>their their head coach hired. I forget his same Mike McDaniels.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the multiratial Yeah, oh, why couldn't they just

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<v Speaker 1>say buying the ball time ranger. I ain't gonna lie

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<v Speaker 1>to you, I ain't gonna dive into it. But look

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<v Speaker 1>at the picture. Look at the picture. I said, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>we look at the picture. You identified as whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to whatever. Everybody got that, right, I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what. Just look at the picture. That ain't

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. Okay, they talking about black coaches. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care what they're talking about, specifically black coaches. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason they talk about black coaches because most of the

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<v Speaker 1>league is black. That's what we're talking about, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever. Yea, they hired him. They hired him, So

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<v Speaker 1>Miami got their guy. And I don't know if Kellen

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<v Speaker 1>has anything else lined up around the league as far

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<v Speaker 1>as interviewing process, not sure, but from all you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from what it looks like, the guy might be coming

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<v Speaker 1>back to Dallas or he is coming back to Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like bringing him back as that offensive coordinator?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like that makes this team that much better?

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<v Speaker 1>Better than who better? Just as overall just having him

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<v Speaker 1>back on this offensive scheme or whatever offense we've been

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<v Speaker 1>running these past couple couple of years. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that bringing him back is the right thing for the Cowboy? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the last few years, and they've been good,

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<v Speaker 1>Okay the last few Okay, the year before Dak got paid.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the year when Dak was on my fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>team and he was getting enough but trash yards. We

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<v Speaker 1>came here every week. It was like trash yards. We know,

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<v Speaker 1>if Dak had ten points in the first half, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter because he was gonna get twenty five in

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<v Speaker 1>a second because they was gonna be a slow starting

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<v Speaker 1>team who had to come back, and they still didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a good record all before he got hurt. That

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<v Speaker 1>next year, we were almost losing to Atlanta if the

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<v Speaker 1>watermelon kicks. We were turning the ball over like crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>We were not on pace to be a Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>winning team or one of those offenses to where they

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<v Speaker 1>are electric from start defense. It was like we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>clause up back in it. Same thing we saw this

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<v Speaker 1>year when you played against some good competition, or the

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<v Speaker 1>further that you got into the season when you had

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<v Speaker 1>to start switching stuff up, because though the defensive coordinators

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<v Speaker 1>are able to see what you're doing, we were not

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<v Speaker 1>able to be successful. So the only thing that can

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<v Speaker 1>make this being successful with Keller Moore coming back is

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<v Speaker 1>if he goes and this is no pun attend. If

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<v Speaker 1>he goes in the lab, we're gonna another coach going

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<v Speaker 1>into the lab. Bro. He got to go into the lab, Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>and he got to sit back and he got to

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<v Speaker 1>go in there. First, you need to look at the

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<v Speaker 1>mirror and say, listen, whatever I did or whatever I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing with this specific quarterback is not working how it

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<v Speaker 1>should be working right with the weapons that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Then going the lab with dan Quinn and figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how you can scheme up some other stuff, how you

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<v Speaker 1>can get your guys in one on one position to

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<v Speaker 1>say that I'm better than this guy and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>beat him on the slant, I'm gonna beat him on

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<v Speaker 1>the face some of those Dad's Brian plays some of

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<v Speaker 1>some of that, like mine is better than yours, and

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<v Speaker 1>when we're gonna we're gonna toss it up and see

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<v Speaker 1>who can get it. Going the lab, see if you

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<v Speaker 1>can get that done. Maximize the potential of your star players.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think I think the scuys the limit

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<v Speaker 1>for us. But if you continue to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>let defenses dictate what you're going to run based off

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<v Speaker 1>what they scheme and what they show and how they disguise,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be the same thing. Yea, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. I mean, I'm with you because because the

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<v Speaker 1>guy you know credited this guy, he did have the

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<v Speaker 1>number one offense, you know, throughout the regular season, but

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't correlate to more wins. You know, we got

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<v Speaker 1>into the dance and we weren't able to get over

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<v Speaker 1>the hump. Weren't able to go out there and get

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<v Speaker 1>to w against San Francisco forty nine ers. And a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that's got to be on the offensive side

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<v Speaker 1>of the football because defense, you know, the forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>were able to run the football on us. They scored

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<v Speaker 1>on the first four possessions, but the defense of the

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<v Speaker 1>second half they held their own. They gave us an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to go out there and win the game. You know. Offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>we just weren't able to get out of that slump.

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<v Speaker 1>It just seems like we weren't able to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of our way, whether it's you know, penalties, the defense

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<v Speaker 1>just figuring us out, not enough creativity, whatever the case

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<v Speaker 1>may be. We weren't able to get over that hump offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was supposed to be a strength, especially coming

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<v Speaker 1>into this season, how lowded we are. We were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to have the three thousand yard receivers. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>ninety million dollars back in the backfield and a great

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<v Speaker 1>compliment back to him, and Tony Pollard got the tight

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<v Speaker 1>end situation. Offensive line, it's not the best as it

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<v Speaker 1>was in the past, but it's definitely nowhere, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as bad as Cincinnati's offensive line is. So we had

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<v Speaker 1>no excuses out there. Yet through the beginning of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>it was all up, Oh man, that's throwing the ball

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<v Speaker 1>over the place. You know, this offense is clicking on

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<v Speaker 1>all cylinders. We had two running backs in the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten rushing for the National Football League. The receivers are happy,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's going great, and then that calf injury happened and

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<v Speaker 1>he missed two games, and then after that that slump happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just seemed like we weren't able to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of our own way. And like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that was creativity wise. You know, defense

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<v Speaker 1>is just kind of getting the tapeall kelling and figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out how to slow him down offensively or what in

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<v Speaker 1>case may be. But in your opinion, what does this

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<v Speaker 1>offense need to do next year to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>be I mean, I know they were the number one

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<v Speaker 1>offense this year, but to at least get that number

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<v Speaker 1>one offense and have wins to back it up as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should not be focusing on being a

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<v Speaker 1>number one offense. I think you should be focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>being a balanced offense with an identity. You need to

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to when you're building this team for

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<v Speaker 1>next year and you're putting it together, to say this

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<v Speaker 1>is what our identity is going to be. Right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go back to when we had the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody had a question what our identity was. When we

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<v Speaker 1>had Tyren Smith, and we had Travis Frederick and you

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<v Speaker 1>had Zach Mark. It was no question. Every defense that

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<v Speaker 1>we played knew exactly what they was gonna get. For

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<v Speaker 1>sixty minutes on Sunday, you was gonna have to see

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<v Speaker 1>them dudes. You had to see Zeke, had to see

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<v Speaker 1>de Marco, and then you was gonna have to uh

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<v Speaker 1>Davis was gonna be in a one on one, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You knew exactly what was gonna happen and they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop it. So the number one thing they need to

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<v Speaker 1>do you need to find a way to find some balance,

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<v Speaker 1>get some identity so your team knows exactly who they are?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are they going through the season because nobody knew

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<v Speaker 1>what we were? Do you think like this? So, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think the offense is trying to feature a strength

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<v Speaker 1>that really isn't a strength? You know they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know Dak Prescott's a hell of a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a hell of a player. I wouldn't call him

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<v Speaker 1>a leak or anything like that, but he's a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a player. Do you think what we're doing offensively

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<v Speaker 1>it's just trying to highlight him too much instead of

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<v Speaker 1>being more of that balance, you know, highlight Zeke a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit here, not put everything on Dak Prescott's shoulders.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that might be some of the disconnect

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<v Speaker 1>here between being a number one offense and not correlating

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<v Speaker 1>the victories. Yeah, I'm just gonna say I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I want to say overthinking, but it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>close to overthinking of like, how how can we draw

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<v Speaker 1>the play and make sure the read happens perfectly every

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<v Speaker 1>time to where you have to hit the right person

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<v Speaker 1>every single time versus sometimes you got to throw some

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<v Speaker 1>contested balls. I mean, the dudes gotta make some contested catches.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the hole is gonna be clogged up, but you

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<v Speaker 1>got a ninety million dollar guy back there, You got

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Paula back there. Sometimes the player is gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to make that play right. It doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>perfect every time, but you have to get these dudes

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the game so they can show you why

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<v Speaker 1>they are special. Right now, we're not letting dude show

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<v Speaker 1>why they're special. We just letting dudes run routes and

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<v Speaker 1>then if they open based off whatever the defense gives you,

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<v Speaker 1>then that's what they got. But that's not why you

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<v Speaker 1>pay dudes. That ain't why you pay him. Mark Cooper million,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean hundred million. You pay him a hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>because you know that if he lines up one on

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<v Speaker 1>one that he can route this dude up and he

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<v Speaker 1>should be open. You pay Zeke ninety million because you

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<v Speaker 1>know if you give him twenty carries, your record is

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<v Speaker 1>almost four to one. All done, hell a lot better.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you're paying this dude ninety million dollars. Right

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<v Speaker 1>when when Ezekiel Elliott was out, when he was suspending

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<v Speaker 1>up six games, why did we feel like the season

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<v Speaker 1>was over? He was that that guy right identity and

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't have that right now. Oh Zeke, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he passed blocking and he doing good and nobody got

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what. I don't want to pass blocking. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to run back in the back ninety million. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>run the ball, bro what are you doing? Zeken special?

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<v Speaker 1>He can still be special, but if you don't give

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<v Speaker 1>him the opportunity, like Jerry said, yeah, you're gonna waste

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<v Speaker 1>the career. You're going to continue till when you're gonna

0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:37.399
<v Speaker 1>waste Tony Bowler's career. You're gonna waste Z's career. Coop

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know what they're gonna do with

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<v Speaker 1>Coop this year and all these other guys, but you yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he got a little bit of Jerry's audio that we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna listen to here about Dan Quinn and bringing him

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<v Speaker 1>back to this cowboy organization. I know my boy Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Berry is excited about it, so sebe can you roll

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<v Speaker 1>that audio for us please? What we really did, the

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<v Speaker 1>hard work on was to maintain dan Quinn, and I

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<v Speaker 1>felt that that had a lot of different different things vantages,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mentioned that I was so pleased was how

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<v Speaker 1>we had stayed in communication with Dan, stayed in communication

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<v Speaker 1>with his representatives, and how Mike had spent time and

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<v Speaker 1>had his polls talking to him because all of us

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<v Speaker 1>wanted Dan to stay. That was a key to our

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<v Speaker 1>continuity here. Well, you heard it Ry first, or you

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<v Speaker 1>heard it at that interview, but you know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're excited about this, Danny. I know you're exciting because

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<v Speaker 1>you was beating down the walls before anybody beat down

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<v Speaker 1>the walls about bringing dan Quinn back to this Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>organization or just bringing him here in general. So, what

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<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts on the Cowboys bringing dan Quinn back

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<v Speaker 1>as their defensive coordinator even though he was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the hottest candidates in the league this offseason as far

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<v Speaker 1>as getting a new head coaching job so so far,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely the biggest move of the off season. Um and

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<v Speaker 1>depending on who you can get in the draft, it

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<v Speaker 1>might continue to be the biggest move of all season.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what we missed in that video was Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Jones saying kind of insinuating that guys like to stay

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<v Speaker 1>here in Dallas, especially when they assume that they may

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<v Speaker 1>be a potential head coach Das guys. It's guys, guys

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<v Speaker 1>have that that that that kind of idea of like,

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<v Speaker 1>hey man, I want to be in Dallas. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>potential for me to be a head coach. And he

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<v Speaker 1>wants guys to think that, right, he wants guys to

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<v Speaker 1>think that. So you got last week, you had Sean Payton,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all that talk about John pay Now you

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<v Speaker 1>got this talk about my man dan Quinn. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>glad that Kelly Moore is not in the running to

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<v Speaker 1>be the head coach for the Dallas Cowboys. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that yet. We don't don't I know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you got Mike McCarthy dan Quinn up here. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>way there's an elevation of Kelly Moore over dan Quinn's

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<v Speaker 1>head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. But now I love

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<v Speaker 1>it man to you know, all seriousness or whatever, Kelly Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have no issue what to do. This as

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<v Speaker 1>an all series of to the poke. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't know the dude, but um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's great, I think Michael. I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>help the help Michael Parsons continue to be a better player.

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<v Speaker 1>Depending on what we do with Tank. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>Tank gets a full year under Dan Quinn, you will

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<v Speaker 1>see a much better Tank. When he came back, he

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<v Speaker 1>looked like a totally different player than what he was

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Depending on what you do with Randy, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on how many tools you give this dude. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>he could make some noise, and that was just his

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<v Speaker 1>first year where you've seen him. You know, they chopped

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<v Speaker 1>at a half pretty much of like we were the

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<v Speaker 1>worst all of a sudden, we floating around the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the pack. Next year, if you give the dude

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<v Speaker 1>the tools, then you should be able to get up

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<v Speaker 1>into that top ten defense. And I'll be asking for

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<v Speaker 1>my bet back. I don't know about top ten, This

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<v Speaker 1>defense will definitely get I'll ask for my bag. Were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see, We're gonna see. But I'm with you on

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<v Speaker 1>this regard. You know, I think you know Dan and

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn last year was definitely one of the biggest free

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<v Speaker 1>agent you know, acquisitions we got, if we can call

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<v Speaker 1>it that, And I think it's it definitely proved dividends

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<v Speaker 1>for this defense overall last year, and then bringing him

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<v Speaker 1>back in that same type of defensive coordinator role um

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<v Speaker 1>to me is important because you, like you said, he

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<v Speaker 1>got the most out of all his players, because pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much a lot of those players that were on that

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<v Speaker 1>historically bad defense in twenty twenty we're part of this

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty twenty two season, and they played extremely well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Anthony Brown, Jordan Lewis, look at what

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<v Speaker 1>Diggs did out there. They were able to play extremely

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<v Speaker 1>well out there. Even Lvee he came back and had

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<v Speaker 1>one of his bounce back years. He wasn't back to

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<v Speaker 1>his Pro Bowl caliber, but he was definitely a solid

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<v Speaker 1>player out there. So I think dan Quinn definitely got

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<v Speaker 1>the most out of all his players out there production wise,

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<v Speaker 1>and another year under that system that could be even better.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what we're gonna do with the law

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and those other guys and a lot of free agents

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<v Speaker 1>on the defensive side of the football, but bringing back

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<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn definitely definitely will prove dividends for this defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you got guys like you know, Curse

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<v Speaker 1>coming in here, Kzy Brent Urban, you got a couple

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>of guys that, you know, not really big known guys

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<v Speaker 1>around the NFL, but he was able to go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and turn Curse, who basically in Detroit and Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, a special teams guy. He played defense

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<v Speaker 1>sparingly here and there. He turned that guy into one

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<v Speaker 1>of the better safeties in the National Football League. You Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was just his system or

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<v Speaker 1>however he used him, but the guy was definitely highly

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<v Speaker 1>productive out there as a safety. You look at Kazy,

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<v Speaker 1>he was able to do some pretty good things, even

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<v Speaker 1>though he needs to work on his angles in the

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>back end, but that's a story for another day. You

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<v Speaker 1>got this defensive line who he works extensively with, you

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<v Speaker 1>know the law urban O, Diggi Zooa, you know Gallamore,

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory. He works with those guys on an everyday basis,

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<v Speaker 1>and he got him flying around. He had him flying

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<v Speaker 1>around as well as aiden he's their defensive line coach

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>out there. He had those guys flying around. So the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of bringing back a dan Quinn to me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's up there. It's extremely high up there,

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<v Speaker 1>and this guy has proved dividends for this Cowboys defense

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<v Speaker 1>and this organization overall, and the culture of your team. Yeah,

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 1>their entire team. We saw the entire team followed that

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>swag that dan Quinn came in with. Now, it didn't

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>get us to the super Bowl, but you can you

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>can just fill it from around the building from due

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:27.679
<v Speaker 1>our training camp and you're hearing like how the defense

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<v Speaker 1>is playing and all that, and you can attribute a

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:32.479
<v Speaker 1>lot of that to dan Quinn. I think even Mike

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy got a little bit more comfortable knowing that he

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<v Speaker 1>had a defensive coordinator who could really get the most

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>out of his players on the other side of the ball.

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that also helped Mike McCarthy be better at

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>his job as well. So it's huge that we got

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<v Speaker 1>dan quinnback stay another couple of years. By man, please

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>let us let us be let the Cowboys be known

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>for having a good defense. Let let that be something, right,

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.479
<v Speaker 1>because when this last time we've been known for that, right,

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 1>it's always been offense. I've always been offen. Let's get

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the first round draft pick. Let's get this. We got rong,

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 1>we got the Marco. Now now we got a team

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to where we can get the defense rolling. So I'm okay,

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>if we get a two thousand Ravens type defensive performers

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>from from the Dallas Cowboys moving forward, I'm cool with that.

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>And without further ado, we got the legend, the man,

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:21.959
<v Speaker 1>the myth, the legend, Will McClay joining the players lounge

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>here down at the s WBC studios. Thank you, Will

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 1>for stopping Baden to talk to me and my boy

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>McCray right there, right on time. I got any about

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty seconds off. Look like that's see, that's that's why.

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>That's why he is what he at right now exactly early. No,

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>that's why I like y'all because y'all were on which

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>made me there you go, there you go. What's up,

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Will Man? How you been good? Man? Just got back

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>from the Senior Bowl. Okay, a week of Mobile Alabama.

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I can see that. I can see one of my

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>old teammates, Kelvin Shepherd, is out there. He was coaching.

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Was he cousin linebackers? Use linebackers? He's like he was

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>having a of the time he's out there in Detroit.

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, so it looked like he was doing

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>a good job out there, man, you know, so it's mobile,

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>So you got to look for the posters. This is true.

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<v Speaker 1>It is true. Yeah, alright, Well, so I ain't gonna

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 1>hold you up too much, man, I just wanted to

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>pick your brain a little bit here, you know, going

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>into You've been doing this for years now, years now,

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>scouting and then getting these picks in for these guys

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>here at the Cowboys, and you've done an amazing job.

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean from LV to you know, Parsons to you

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>know Jaylen Smith was out there for a while doing

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<v Speaker 1>and CD and days. I mean, your records impeccable. So

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>what goes through, you know, the process and an offseason

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>like yourself going through scouting these players, getting them, you know,

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>ready for the combound, Like what what what are you

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>looking for in these players to come to Dallas and

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>help this team out. At the end of the day,

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>what we really need to continue to improve on us

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>getting those dogs. We need to get those guys at

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>the time when it's time to make plays, to make

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>those plays. And as you build a team, you continue

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>to do that. But when it starts, when the season's over,

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>we understand where our rosters. We go evaluate our roster,

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>what kind of what plays A free agents what holes are.

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>We're going to have that whole process, do it that

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>way to talk about where our team is. And the

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>college scouts have been out since you know, August, going

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>looking at prospects and so they've built all the reports

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>and we're continuing to find out about the players and

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>then we get to see them live, interview them, do

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. That's what starts now is like trying

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>to find out what's on the inside. You know, we

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>can watch the tape and find out kind of their abilities.

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Now what's more important is finding out what's on the inside.

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Can they learn, do they have the right stuff, and

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>then do they fit what we do? So just off

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the topic a little bit, So I want to know

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>how the new college system is affecting how you think

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>about players, right because you see guys sitting out years

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>they might not play in the Bowl game. They might

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>be having a different mindset now because they might be

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>making a little money before they even get to the league.

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>And I know, I know back in the passage just

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>like dudes is grinding so they can they can try

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to make some money for their family. They want to

0:31:58.000 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>make sure that they get that. And then now you

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>got guys were freshman's freshman going out there making a

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>million dollars hire million dollars there. So how does that

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.719
<v Speaker 1>affect how you look at a player, how much more

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>research you have to do, and to who they are

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>as a person. It's ever evolved. It's you know, you

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>add that layer into it because, like you guys said,

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>when we were coming up, it was ball and you

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>know you had to do something to put food on

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the table. Now these guys are getting opportunities in college

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to do that. So what's going to be their motivation

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>for playing ball? That's why you got to dig in

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and find out about them. And you know, I always

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>say it's about scouting and what we do. We're asking

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>people about people and putting them into another environment with people. Well,

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 1>now you add the element of finances and what's in

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>a dude's mindset when it becomes more difficult and so

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>you really have to dig. You really got a call

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>on like, it's important for me to have guys like

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you interact with some of the young guys because y'all

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>are younger guys that but are old heads that kind

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>of understand the new and the young age. So it's

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>it's trying to get that information and really dissected as

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>much as possible, because it's really hard because, for example,

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>we had this hard line stance last year at the

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>beginning of the process. When you're thinking about guys who

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't play, guys who opted out, Well, now you got

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to find out what their why is, why did they

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>opt out? Okay, now you got to weigh some of

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that in with your thought pressing. And there's biases and

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>everything we do we try and overcome those and say,

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>if we're gonna look at this situation this way, let's

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>make sure we look at the other situation with all

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>the different variables you know involved too, to try and

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>help us make a better decision. And it's crazy too

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>because two of the best players this season did not

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>play college Parsons Chase did not play college football. That

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>if to it. That adds to it. And you know,

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>we go to like the Senior Bowl and agents are

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>pulling players out after a couple of days, and that's

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>been common, but it's just more so now because there

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>are some guys that didn't play last year and had success,

0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>so other guys think they can do that. Well, you

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>might not be those two. Everybody always always remember that.

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>So I want to ask another one, um, what is

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the evaluation of free agents, like, because these past a

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>couple of free agents that you guys have had that

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>the Curses, the Kazys, they've come here and they bawled out,

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean curse. You know when he was in Minnesota,

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:18.800
<v Speaker 1>when he was in Detroit, he was more just a

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>special teams guy, came in here and did a couple

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>of defensive snaps here and there. You know, when you're

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>evaluating guys like that, how did you how did you

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 1>know that he was gonna be able to come here

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and be kind of that standout safety, kind of be

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>that guy in the back end. And can you also

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>add parcels in there too, because we also want to know,

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>like because when I wasn't here at that time when

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:38.839
<v Speaker 1>Parslons got drafted and I was like, yeah, old line

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>also stuff and then people saw it though, Like so

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>just kind of going too in regards to curse and

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>like pro free agents College's projection. You know, you're projecting

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>these dudes in when you go to pro free agents,

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>it's more these guys are actually this is they're actually

0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>competing against NFL guys, and so you kind of look

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 1>at this skill set and for us defensively and offensively

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>when you include players in there, that's where the communication

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 1>with coaches and stuff, Right, Okay, what's your vision for

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 1>this player? What are you looking for? So then we

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 1>go out and try and find the skill set and

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>there's evidence on that skill set on tape on NFL. Guys,

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>you say, Okay, if we coach him right, he can

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>fit in this role. And I think with Dan and

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>what we've done in the free agent parts, you gotta

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>feel for guys like if both of you guys were

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 1>free agents right now coming into the system, I would say,

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Danny mccraige, boom boom boom, this is what he can do.

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 1>This is what he can't do. Same thing with Barry Church, coach,

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>what are you looking for? Now? These things fit and

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it's it's actual to me, it's it's it's easier when

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you go UFA's it's actual from a skill set standpoint. Now,

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>what you still have to kind of get wrap your

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>mind around is who is a dude who you're bringing

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 1>into the locker room? His skill sets? One thing? Now,

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>who you're bringing in because the culture is the locker

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>room to fit all that other stuff. And then when

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>it comes to Micah as far as players, um, we

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>remember going through the draft meetings and you look at Okay,

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>he can do this, he can do that, he can

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>do this, uh and all at a high level. But

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>now it's how are you going to use him? That's

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the key, you know, it's you say it's about I

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 1>always say it's about the Jimmy's and the Joe's, not

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the exes and the os. But you got to figure

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>out where Jimmy and Joe go within your exes and

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>o's and that's where the coaching comes in. So so

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>with that because you know, I'm a dan Quinn so

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>so in my mind to me, I'm just thinking that

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Dan dan Quinn specifically not not the shots to other

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>other coaches that have been here, specifically has an idea

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>before you pick, like when you ask the guy, hey, man,

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 1>like where am I? What am I gonna do with him?

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:44.479
<v Speaker 1>What do I need him to do? Like a curse?

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>And dan Quinn in his mind has that he knows

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>exactly what that is and it's set in stone like yeah,

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>like I know exactly what I could do with a

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>guy like that. That's right, Yes, that's it, and that's

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that's the key to it. The NFL now is so uh,

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 1>there's so many roles and different players on the way

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>people do it. You have to match defenses, have to

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>match offenses now. So you look at the skill set

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and what a guy can do. But it's not just

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>doing the one thing because you don't want a guy

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 1>they can do one thing, because the team will flip

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>it around and put a guy in motion. Make it.

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>You got to be able to do two things. You

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 1>gotta be able to do the high level curse, for example,

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.319
<v Speaker 1>is able to cover tight ends. He's able to fit

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>down in the box. He had the length and the

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>physicality to be able to play in the box. There

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 1>may be a guy who can cover tight ends but

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>may not be big enough to fit in the box.

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 1>So where does that fit within your defense and what

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you want to do. It's just so the NFL has

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 1>becomes so role specific now and it's because you're taking

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>players from a college environment that the college environment is

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>starting to eke into the NFL. But it's still the

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 1>NFL with a few wrinkles in it. But so you

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 1>have to fit those pieces in right. We talked about

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:50.399
<v Speaker 1>the Pro Bow early today. So just a quick tip

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>bit on that. What do you if you're a player

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.400
<v Speaker 1>is in the Pro Bowl? Do you want them to

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>go out there and play harder than what you're watching

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:03.919
<v Speaker 1>On some tags, I'm saying, but it's the risk worth

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the reward in your mind it's not. But well, for me,

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 1>you want them to go out and see him play

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:13.320
<v Speaker 1>football every time. You know, that's the old school in me.

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 1>But there's also the reality of it, as those contracts

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 1>are not guaranteed. There's there's different mindset that go into

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 1>do I make that decision to hit somebody when it

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really count, right, That's the tough part about it.

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Like my ac jone was hurting two weeks ago. I've

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>been on the couch. Now you want me to go

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 1>ahead and hit this dude? Because I do it. I'm

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 1>watching the game and I'm like, I understand. I'm just

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>happy y'all went out there and gave the gay the

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 1>fans something to actually watching. Some of the fans are

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 1>watching like what, and I'm like, yeah, but that's just

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>like the NBA off starting. Okay, what do you want

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>to do? You want to see scoring? You know, have fun.

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's see, it's the reward of the game. We don't

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 1>want to see our players that were counting on the

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>next year get hurt, you know, and not be able

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.479
<v Speaker 1>to help our team. But you know that you're gonna

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>go out there and as a football player, old school style,

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say, anytime I strip up, I'm gonna give

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 1>my best. Yeah, it's it's a little bit different to

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 1>your quarterback out there on the offensive line. He might not. Yeah.

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:17.279
<v Speaker 1>So I got a little I got a little two

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>part of for you here. Two part of part one. UM,

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, how impressed were you with Dan Quinn and

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you know his ability to basically turn this defense around

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>and have them taking football away almost as good as

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>anybody in the National Football League. And then my second

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 1>part kind of a fun question, is this the best

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>defensive line that you've seen here? Because we've been a

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>part of some good ones with d Ware, you know,

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Hatch and you know rat Living all them guys, is

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>this one of the best defensive lines you've been a

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 1>part of? UM well number one in regards to Dan

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and the defensive staff putting it together. I mean, when

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 1>we play football, we all want something to believe in.

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.320
<v Speaker 1>UM you know, and so if I have a coach

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>that shows me that I can be better, how he

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>can make me better. There's a unique way that you know,

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 1>this season was a unique way to bring all that together.

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 1>You have players that kind of felt that vibe and

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>they were all working together and hopefully you can build

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>on that. That's the uniqueness of Dan. He can make

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>you feel like and and and understand where you're coming from,

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>your strengths and your weaknesses and be able to communicate

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>that with you. And that's a unique skill set in

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>today's day and age when everybody's being paid, you know,

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 1>in college and hey, how do I you know, how

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 1>do I reach this dude to uh, you know, I

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>think Dan and might do a great job, but that

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 1>we're trying to understand guys so understand how to motivate

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 1>them and get them to play. As far as the

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>D line, I think we're building that. It's nothing compared

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 1>to you know, some of those lines we had when

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:42.240
<v Speaker 1>you had hat left Ratcher, you know Ratft Hatcher spears

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that gold uh you know, spent you all those guys.

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>That was a unique Now these are young guys, dudes

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that are coming. Um, I think that there are some elements,

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>but it's hard to say which one was better because

0:40:55.640 --> 0:41:00.439
<v Speaker 1>I know and there were some guys now, yes, yes, yeah,

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and you was on the tea with them to do

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>so when they when they call you and ask you,

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>why would you make that? That was not a day

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 1>MC great question. Okay, I just saw d where the

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 1>other day. All right, hall of Fame guy. I did not.

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>That is not my question. But so oh yeah, so

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to ask about my guy, Okay, my guy Wilona.

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Do we else? Okay? Because going into last year, I

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>think it was last year, right, Blake Jarwin ends up

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 1>getting hurt at the beginning and then shots comes in.

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>He has a to us, from our perspective, had a

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>rough game just because he had to step in. We

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 1>thought the lights were a little brightening. We were down

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 1>on him, Yeah I was. I was. And then you

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>see what he's been able to do at the end

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>of last year and then all of this year becoming

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:49.359
<v Speaker 1>one of those those those staples for Dak Prescott. Right.

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.399
<v Speaker 1>And then I think a lot of times the tight

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 1>end coaches, they get overlooked for being able to coach

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a guy to be that good. Right, so they might

0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:00.040
<v Speaker 1>he might have the skill set already, but what he

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>saw from Dalton Shoultz was you started saying, all right,

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 1>what that better find Schultz when you got a guy

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>like Coop, when you got a guy like Ceedee Lamb,

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 1>and then Shultz is still able to make that type

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 1>of noise within that offensive scheme by man Luda Wells. Yeah,

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 1>no question, it's coach Wells. There's a standard that he

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>has in a room and he's gonna hold everybody accountable

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 1>to it. But then he has a way again of

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>making guys better. Everybody that's in that room, they're pros,

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 1>they're at the top of the game, but they always

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>want to get better. So he finds little ways to

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 1>make guys better to drive and to make them, you know,

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 1>achieve their stealing. He's gonna challenge them in a way.

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>And you got to be in that room, and it's

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 1>got to be in you. And that's the thing about

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Dalton Schultz is he was in the room with Jason Witten. First.

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 1>He learned how to be a pro from witness and

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of little witness ms in him, you know,

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and how he attacks the position and how he runs

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 1>his room and all that but then it's coach Wells

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:58.320
<v Speaker 1>holding them accountable, teaching him he can get to a

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>higher level. When a guy can get to a level

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>next level, I'm gonna believe in you. I'm gonna get

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the young guys on your side too because of what

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you've done for me. And that's what Wales has done

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:10.359
<v Speaker 1>and understanding the offensive line being an offensive line coach

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and then learning the passing game. He's bringing an element

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to tight ends that's different than maybe they've received before. Two. Yes,

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I had a little bit of LSU so

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 1>me and yeah at loading is my guy, man, Just

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>just to see him be able to because I think

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>when he was in he went to New York right

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>for a minute, and he was maybe like a GA

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>or something. He was, he was a line coach, he

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:32.440
<v Speaker 1>had done some line coach and uh so I've seen

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 1>him and then now just to be able to see

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that's true. Man. He just went from what I'm but

0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember him being an LSU to what he is

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>now and the way he's able to affect these players

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>because I'm here. When he was an intern, yeah I

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 1>was yeah, so it was intern here. Yeah he was okay,

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:49.880
<v Speaker 1>And that was when I first. I mean, you know,

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 1>we was kind of coming up together at that time.

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I got one more for you on my side. How

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 1>how impressed were you because I know I was certainly

0:43:56.600 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 1>impressed with the jump that Terrence Steele was able to

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>make from year one to year two, you know, being

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>that swing guy, being all over the offensive line. It

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 1>seemed to me like he was able to hold his

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 1>own for the most part. This season. He struggled a

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 1>little bit from here to here, but he's a growing player,

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a young player. He has time to develop. How long

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:13.879
<v Speaker 1>press were you with his playoffs so far as season

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 1>or if this season? I mean, he did an incredible

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>job coming back after he played his rookie year, played

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of snaps his rookie year. He came back stronger,

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:26.319
<v Speaker 1>he came back more determined, And that's the unique part

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>about him. He played both sides, and yeah, it's not ideal,

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 1>but at the end of the day, there's not enough

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>quality offensive lineman to go around thirty two NFL teams.

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 1>People make mistakes drafting guys in the first round in

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the second round and don't get the level of performance

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that we got from Steel. So that's exciting because just

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 1>who the young man is like, he's determined, he got

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>a little nasty with him. He's long, he's athletic, and

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>he got stronger, and he doesn't say a word. He's

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>got that offensive line mentality, and he's got a great

0:44:57.360 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 1>veteran group to learn from. When you Tyrn Smith and

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin and LC, you understand what it takes to

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 1>be a pro and then you got to take it

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:09.800
<v Speaker 1>upon yourself as a young man, which he did to

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>come in his weight room and get stronger and do

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.759
<v Speaker 1>all the things and took to play at a high level.

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>And I think he's going to be a surprising player

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>for US, young player for us as we continue to

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>go forward. I was converted. I mean last year I

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:23.399
<v Speaker 1>was bound on still and I was like, oh man,

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, I hope I hope it right because if

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 1>confidence goes away all of a sudden, when you start

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>struggling like that, we've all been through it. And then

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>this year, just to see him, to know what he

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 1>had to go through in order to get as good

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:36.880
<v Speaker 1>as he was this year, Like people don't understand that, bro,

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a year of it. And then you also

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 1>have to you have to be vulnerable enough to put

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:42.839
<v Speaker 1>yourself back out there and say, listen, I still might

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>get beat right, but I'm gonna trust the work that

0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I did in the off season competitive and it's gonna work.

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 1>That's the dogs that we're trying to find when we

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 1>started to deal. I mean, it's guys like y'all. As

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you continue to grow. People might have ability, but you

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 1>got to find out what's on the inside. You're not

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna know what's on the inside until you get to

0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 1>experience it with them. You know, you get to find out.

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>You get to put him in the trenches. It doesn't matter.

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 1>You get some guys drafted. I love this time of

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 1>year because you got all these big draft boards and

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 1>people they don't know anything about that person. We're trying

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to figure out about that person and see if they

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 1>got the charent steal or they got the Micah Parsons

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff, and where the Danny McCray or

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the buried church. That's the stuff that we're looking for

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>that makes a difference. There's Drake. There's Drake hal there.

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Because I know you don't like to listen to Drake,

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:27.399
<v Speaker 1>do you like? No, I'm not I got that Drake

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 1>jay Z. You know he's talking about, you know, coming

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>from the struggle and how not lollypops. I don't know.

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.920
<v Speaker 1>That's a little way. Okay, so so so so so

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 1>so we dow versus and we dow versus. I'm jay

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Z over Little Wayne, but he might not, okay, because

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:51.720
<v Speaker 1>you cannot use the mixtapes and all that stuff your albums.

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Because what I said is when Little Wayne drops his mixtapes,

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.640
<v Speaker 1>he goes off other people's beats, and he also kind

0:46:57.680 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 1>of steals a little part of what they were talking

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 1>about in the song You're Taking the Man Strings strange

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 1>a mixtape. You know some people you know got out

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 1>of school, but I played your ride these get the grees. Yes,

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>all right, well we're gonna We're gonna let you slide about,

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 1>hold on, hold on, And you know I'm a fifty

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:23.240
<v Speaker 1>five year old hip hop head. I will you know, ride,

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>ride or die with it? Um, Scarface the best in business?

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Like you heard it here, man, I canna argue listen

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 1>because I'm from Houston, So you know, we it's a

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:40.280
<v Speaker 1>thing like you like Wiz and you like we believe

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that Scarface is the guy. Real quick subject quick, real quick,

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Burrow or Herbert, Oh Burrow, I mean that's why. And

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 1>here he got that dog, that arterback position that leads

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. People want to follow Herbert because of

0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:05.479
<v Speaker 1>his talent, and he's establishing that. Burrow came in a dog,

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 1>got the dogs to follow him. And now look where

0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 1>they are in a place that you you wouldn't expect

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals to be because they don't do that, and

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 1>they've also been lucky. But he's got that dog. Sat

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>you get sack nine times, don't don't you don't blink

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 1>the flinch and your team is they got your back.

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Because we're not gonna say that they win specifically just

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>because Joe Burrow, but the defense is playing harder because

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of Joe Burrows. There is a that Prescott effect to

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow, when you get people to believe in you

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 1>no matter what, they're gonna ride with you. And that's

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 1>what he's done. Yes, he's just phone right, Herbert. Her

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>is extremely talented. He's extremely talented. When he came out,

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 1>that was the one thing it was like, hey, where

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 1>where is that at? And you see more of it

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:57.399
<v Speaker 1>than we saw in college. But Burrow, somehow, some way

0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:01.799
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<v Speaker 1>to join. I can't even talk joint that sound like

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<v Speaker 1>New y'all here. That's because the Herbert got damn Will

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<v Speaker 1>But Will's words definitely put a dagger and put a

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<v Speaker 1>dagger in my Herbert argument over Borrow, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy's been scotting twenty five thirty years now, so man,

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<v Speaker 1>that that hurt me right. Okay, you can watch Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow on Sunday on all the TV screens, whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to buy, you watching, you just watching win Super

0:51:57.280 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Bowl MVP, and then I don't want to hear nothing

0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:01.839
<v Speaker 1>about this year. What he would have the same number

0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:05.320
<v Speaker 1>of Super Bowls? Is the great Aaron Rodgers tell you

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 1>just tell anyways. Anyways, I ain't want to bring this

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:12.319
<v Speaker 1>up while we had Will over here breaking things down

0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 1>for us. But I gotta get to the question. I

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>gotta ask you the question. I'm gonna put my two

0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>cents in there as well, but I'm gonna go with you. First.

0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Two guys that you know a lot of reports have

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:26.239
<v Speaker 1>been going around. Maybe here may not be here. Let's

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>start with the guy on the offensive side of the football.

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:30.799
<v Speaker 1>And I think you know who I'm talking about. If

0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you were ahead of all of this, if you're the

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:36.399
<v Speaker 1>guy can charge of bringing guys back, signing guys, all

0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that good stuff, do your bring back number nineteen, Amari Cooper.

0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the thought that we'll have to

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 1>go into it is kind of something similar to what

0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Will said right when we talked about Dan Quinn and

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:52.319
<v Speaker 1>you talked about bringing curse in and you said, Hey,

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I see this guy. This is what this guy's gonna do,

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:56.799
<v Speaker 1>this is what he can do, this is really good,

0:52:56.800 --> 0:52:58.840
<v Speaker 1>and that's how we're gonna use them. These are the

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 1>same conversations that you don't have to have about a

0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Mark Cooper and how you plan to use them. Okay,

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:07.840
<v Speaker 1>how we have been using him. I would not I

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't pay twenty meal for basically for what for last year?

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 1>For last year, I would if we're gonna use them

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.959
<v Speaker 1>that way from what I saw on filming in the games,

0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I would not pay twenty meal for. If you are

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 1>going to make him the guy that guy, right, you're

0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna find a way to always get him in one

0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:26.040
<v Speaker 1>on ones, put him in the slot so so you

0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:30.399
<v Speaker 1>can maximize his ability. If you're gonna do that, then

0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 1>absolutely I'll keep him. But but I feel the same

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:36.839
<v Speaker 1>way about Zeke, like if you're not going to use

0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:40.279
<v Speaker 1>him to what for what? He's good at punishing dudes,

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:41.839
<v Speaker 1>so when you're wearing on them, so when they get

0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to the end of the game, I was sudden those

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:45.239
<v Speaker 1>those three and four yard runs turn into twenty and

0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you're just gonna use his pass blocking ability that I

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:50.800
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't pay him ninety million either, you know. But I

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 1>but if you're gonna find a way to maximize these

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:56.279
<v Speaker 1>dudes ability and potential kind of kind of like a

0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 1>dance Brian is where I see a Mark Cooper not

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:01.720
<v Speaker 1>going up to get get the jump balls, but finding

0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>a way to get him in want to marget target

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:06.319
<v Speaker 1>wise right and not just not just the targets, right,

0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 1>because all of a sudden you see Mark Cooper get three,

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 1>three four out routs and he got five targets in five. Kids.

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about those big time ones like like DeAndre Hopkins,

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>DeVante Adams, that type of stuff. If you're gonna use

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:18.840
<v Speaker 1>them that way, absolutely, If you're not, and you're just

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna draw stuff and try to get whoever is open,

0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:23.920
<v Speaker 1>they it doesn't really make much sense. So if you're

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:25.320
<v Speaker 1>going to buy that way, if you know, if he

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 1>like you said, if you want to buy that last

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:28.719
<v Speaker 1>part where you're just drawing stuff up, his price tag

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:31.200
<v Speaker 1>is too high at that point. You gotta you gotta

0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of let them rattle that one because you're not

0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 1>using them, like you said, Like like a Devontae Adams

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:39.080
<v Speaker 1>type where we know defenses know going into into Green

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Bay or when they play against green Bay, Devontae Adams

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:44.200
<v Speaker 1>is that guy. But the Green Bay Packers know that

0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:45.719
<v Speaker 1>as well, that defense is going to kill on them.

0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 1>But they find ways to either put them in bunches,

0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 1>put them in motion, find some type of way three

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 1>by one set let him be the single receiver. On

0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:55.040
<v Speaker 1>that other side, they find ways to get him the

0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 1>football and he's able to prove or dividends for their offense.

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:00.360
<v Speaker 1>But we just don't see that here with you know,

0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Amark Cooper. I don't know if it's you know, the

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:04.759
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff don't. They don't see him as that you know,

0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:07.840
<v Speaker 1>number one bona five receiver or what the case may be.

0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 1>But they're not giving him though. They're not featuring him,

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a DeVante Adams, like a DeAndre Hopkins,

0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:15.359
<v Speaker 1>like somebody along those lines. And I think he has

0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the skill set and I think he is, you know,

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:19.359
<v Speaker 1>of the caliber player of those guys, and he can

0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:21.880
<v Speaker 1>be one of those guys, but he just doesn't get

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the opportunities as far as big plays, like like you said,

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 1>we'll see him on a couple of hit trouts here

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and there, a couple of slams. He might get an

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 1>eight yard game here and there, but they're not drawing

0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:33.320
<v Speaker 1>up plays for him to be that focal point of

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the offense. And I think you're right if if he's

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 1>coming back on a twenty million dollars, you know, price tag,

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 1>then you gotta feature the guy. And if you don't,

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of a waste of money. The

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:45.160
<v Speaker 1>only thing that kind of I kind of fear or

0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:47.759
<v Speaker 1>push back on is if we let Amark Cooper go,

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:50.280
<v Speaker 1>we let him walk, you know, what is that receivering

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:52.440
<v Speaker 1>corps gonna look like? What is this? Because because as

0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:54.520
<v Speaker 1>much as I like Ceede Lamb, he's a pro Bowl player,

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:57.239
<v Speaker 1>young emerging receiver, I don't know if he can hold

0:55:57.280 --> 0:55:59.200
<v Speaker 1>his own, you know, bayself out there. I don't know

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:00.680
<v Speaker 1>if he can be the focal point of the offense.

0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Defense is putting all their coverage on Ceedee Lamb. I

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:06.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's that guy just yet. So if

0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:09.800
<v Speaker 1>you take Amara Cooper out, does that hinder your offense

0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:12.400
<v Speaker 1>that much? I don't know. That's the only thing that

0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:14.400
<v Speaker 1>scares me. I'll say that if you let him go,

0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to find you, you know, you fifteen

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:19.719
<v Speaker 1>sixteen million dollars guy that you could bring in. But

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:22.080
<v Speaker 1>like I said, if you're just drawing up the roster,

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:24.239
<v Speaker 1>get guys open, then you just need a guy who's

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:26.920
<v Speaker 1>able to know offenses and know how to run it.

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:28.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, if it's his zone, make sure you sit down,

0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 1>if his man, make sure you keep running. You that

0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:32.799
<v Speaker 1>you just need a guy who's technically sound right if

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna pay twenty million dollars. But guy, that has

0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 1>to be a guy who when all techniques and all

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>that stuff is out the window. It's man, I'm going

0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:41.520
<v Speaker 1>to beat you. I'm going to put you in position,

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:44.399
<v Speaker 1>and we can keep looking dudes. In the Super Bowl,

0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase goes first round, third and twenty three, thirty

0:56:47.680 --> 0:56:50.239
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven him, Hey, man, and it ain't about drawing

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 1>up who's hey, Jamar chases one on one. All right,

0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:55.200
<v Speaker 1>that's what we throw on the ball to backshow to

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:57.080
<v Speaker 1>faith and if we lose it, we're gonna lose it

0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.040
<v Speaker 1>knowing that we went to our number one guy. Like

0:56:59.360 --> 0:57:02.600
<v Speaker 1>la situation. You know, they're getting a zero blitz. Cooper

0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Cup ain't even a part of the central He's just

0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:07.439
<v Speaker 1>a clear out route. Stafford Jos's back. Hey, I'm gonna

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 1>throw this up to my guy. And what happens? They

0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:10.880
<v Speaker 1>get the rod. You know, they beat Tampa Bay. They

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.200
<v Speaker 1>go on to beat up who they beating in the

0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>NFC Championship game. San fran ended up beating San Franz

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and not they're in the Super Bowl, but they feature

0:57:18.520 --> 0:57:22.000
<v Speaker 1>they highlight their main guys and you know, that's just

0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 1>something if we see it, if we are just sitting

0:57:24.440 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 1>here in the podcast studio, we watch practice, we watch

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the games, if we can see that, I know these

0:57:28.840 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 1>coaches have got to be able to do it. So

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of leaning towards their kind of overthinking it

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 1>or trying to be too perfect or too cute. Oh,

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>if we draw this up like this, the defenses will

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:40.240
<v Speaker 1>focus up on it and no, get him. There's no

0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 1>way that's playing to work. Sometimes you just gotta be like, look, man,

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:45.160
<v Speaker 1>our guy is better than your guy, or our guys

0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 1>better than the guys that are double covering him worst

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:49.920
<v Speaker 1>feeding the ball. Sometimes they just gotta be like that,

0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:53.080
<v Speaker 1>give the man a chance to make the play. These

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 1>dudes want to go out here and show that they

0:57:54.840 --> 0:57:58.040
<v Speaker 1>are worth that price to ye. And it's and it

0:57:58.080 --> 0:57:59.520
<v Speaker 1>gets to the point where it's unfair that we have

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:01.520
<v Speaker 1>we coming. We have to say, I don't know we

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:03.479
<v Speaker 1>should pay the dude, and I don't believe it's his fault.

0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I really don't believe it's his fault. I'm I'm of

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the mindset of like, allow him to show that he

0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:11.080
<v Speaker 1>can't and then you can say he's not worth it.

0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:13.880
<v Speaker 1>But I don't feel like he's getting those opportunities. Same

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:16.960
<v Speaker 1>with Ze same ceedee Land was the first round pick.

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:19.040
<v Speaker 1>But I still don't think that they are utilizing his

0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:22.960
<v Speaker 1>his his skill set the correct way. You've seen him

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:24.360
<v Speaker 1>come out of the backfield one time. I think it

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:26.800
<v Speaker 1>was a big game, and we didn't see it again.

0:58:27.640 --> 0:58:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Jet Sweet. He's a Jet sweet guy. This is the

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 1>who you should been in the Jet Sweet. Amark Cooper

0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:34.440
<v Speaker 1>should be running him every time his man coverage. He

0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:36.920
<v Speaker 1>should be crossing the field in motion because what we

0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:40.080
<v Speaker 1>know about the defender is when they get motion, you

0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:44.760
<v Speaker 1>can't press because he's so you should And this is

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>what they do with Defonte Adams. Every time Defronte Adams

0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:49.080
<v Speaker 1>come across the field, the receiver gets off and you

0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 1>see him running out route, you see him running come back.

0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:54.240
<v Speaker 1>You get to see him have that four route street

0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:57.480
<v Speaker 1>because he's not getting pressed. So I think there's simple

0:58:57.520 --> 0:59:00.240
<v Speaker 1>ways to get it done. I'm no offensive coordinator, but

0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I just haven't seen that be done for a twenty

0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:06.120
<v Speaker 1>million dollars guy. And then you look at Amark Cooper

0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and he has the mind. I believe he has the

0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:10.240
<v Speaker 1>mindset to where he wants to be one of those

0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:11.959
<v Speaker 1>top receivers. I mean, we look in the off season

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 1>of last year, he came in saying, you know, I

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:15.960
<v Speaker 1>believe I have the skill set to be a top

0:59:16.040 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 1>three receiver or one of the top receivers International Football League.

0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:21.280
<v Speaker 1>He came out halfway through the season, I'm not getting

0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the ball enough. I can help this team win if

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:25.200
<v Speaker 1>you give me the ball. And we know his type

0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:27.840
<v Speaker 1>of personality, he's not allowed. You know, he's kind of

0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:29.880
<v Speaker 1>the opposite. You know, if dz Bran nothing against Daz.

0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:32.600
<v Speaker 1>He was a passionate guy about about football and about

0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:35.440
<v Speaker 1>getting the ball and helping his team win. Amark Cooper

0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I think is just as passionate, just in a different way.

0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>He's not as vocal as a Daz Brand. But we

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:42.320
<v Speaker 1>had him midway through the season. I need to get

0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the ball. I can help this offense win. So if

0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:47.120
<v Speaker 1>we do decide to bring you know, Mark Cooper back

0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:49.840
<v Speaker 1>for this offense, hopefully they feature him. Hopefully he's able

0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 1>to get those targets and get those passes that a

0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:55.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of the top receivers have out there, and if

0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:56.640
<v Speaker 1>he's able to do that, maybe he can turn it

0:59:56.680 --> 0:59:58.920
<v Speaker 1>into one of the best seasons as a receiver. But

0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:01.240
<v Speaker 1>if we just use him as you know, a scheme

1:00:01.320 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 1>guy or you know, hey, he just draw some stuff up,

1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:05.040
<v Speaker 1>he might be open there, he might not be open.

1:00:05.480 --> 1:00:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Then twenty millions just too much for me. This this

1:00:08.000 --> 1:00:10.120
<v Speaker 1>is why guys like Cedric Wilson and the orb around

1:00:10.320 --> 1:00:12.919
<v Speaker 1>can get open because you just drawn up, just drawn

1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:15.240
<v Speaker 1>up to play, and we gonna hit the guy that's open. Okay,

1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:16.880
<v Speaker 1>they playing cover of three, so this is not gonna

1:00:16.880 --> 1:00:22.480
<v Speaker 1>be open. So make sure you hit this dude. Nah manna, sir.

1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:25.919
<v Speaker 1>The dude I want to beginning opens a mark upers

1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:27.840
<v Speaker 1>so they running cover of three. The dude who is

1:00:27.920 --> 1:00:31.040
<v Speaker 1>running running whatever route for the weakness of cover three whatever,

1:00:31.160 --> 1:00:33.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to he is a mark up, is gonna be

1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that guy. So yeah, I just yeah, but I think

1:00:36.720 --> 1:00:38.320
<v Speaker 1>he has a skill set to do it. But it

1:00:38.440 --> 1:00:40.840
<v Speaker 1>depends on how you are going to use use the guy.

1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:43.040
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, so we talked about the offensive and

1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:44.840
<v Speaker 1>now I was going on the defensive side of the football.

1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:47.160
<v Speaker 1>And another guy that you know, he's still under contract,

1:00:47.240 --> 1:00:48.880
<v Speaker 1>but you know there's a lot of reports going around.

1:00:48.880 --> 1:00:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Will he be here, will he not be here? And

1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:53.640
<v Speaker 1>that's the Marcus Lawrence. Now we saw, you know, early

1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:55.480
<v Speaker 1>on in his career, he had those two back to

1:00:55.560 --> 1:00:57.720
<v Speaker 1>back seasons where I think he had eighteen or seventeen

1:00:57.760 --> 1:01:01.480
<v Speaker 1>sacks on this franchise. Tags got the big deal. It's

1:01:01.520 --> 1:01:03.680
<v Speaker 1>still a hell of a player, but we just haven't

1:01:03.680 --> 1:01:06.320
<v Speaker 1>seen the numbers as much as you know back before

1:01:06.360 --> 1:01:08.080
<v Speaker 1>he had gotten the contract. Now, a lot of that

1:01:08.160 --> 1:01:09.480
<v Speaker 1>had to do his injuries. I mean, I know he

1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:11.200
<v Speaker 1>was injured lash here this year. He had went through

1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:13.360
<v Speaker 1>some things, missed eight games I believed to a broken foot.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he came back, he was bawling. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a couple of sacks, a lot of forced fumbles.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just a terror out there as far as

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive player. Now, his numbers might not indicate that

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<v Speaker 1>he's not in the double digit sacks or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but the guy was distructive out there. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he similar situation to Mark Cooper high price tag? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think he is warranted that high price tag and

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<v Speaker 1>coming back? I think his is different than the Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper's because dan Quinn is a defensive coordinator and I

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<v Speaker 1>think if if you had the Marcus Lawrence for the

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<v Speaker 1>full season and he was healthy, I think you would

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<v Speaker 1>have solved those type of numbers even if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen sixteen sacks, you would have said that the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line they have to come up with a game plan

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that they know where where the Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence is. It Also, also the secondary is getting better

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<v Speaker 1>and what we know, russe and cover worked together. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you got a secondary who's taking the ball away,

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<v Speaker 1>they're given the D line that extra half a second

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the quarterback, then the D line is

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<v Speaker 1>going to to be more productive. They're gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get those sacks, get those those hands up so

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<v Speaker 1>they can get some of those interceptions. And we saw

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<v Speaker 1>that throughout the season without the Marcus Lawrence there. And

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<v Speaker 1>we know the type of talent that the Marcus Lawrence is.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm saying give him a full year with with

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<v Speaker 1>with DQ and AID and then see what happens, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think if the dude is healthy, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get back to that form of like, hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>this dude is a monster. He's he's a force to

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<v Speaker 1>be reckoned with. Now he has I'm not sure sure

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<v Speaker 1>the number on the price, but I know it's high. High.

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<v Speaker 1>Russias are high. The franchise thing for it's up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully they bring you know, if you can bring back

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<v Speaker 1>both back, hopefully. But I leaned towards the Marcus Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather bring him back than in the Mark Coover,

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<v Speaker 1>just because the simple fact that, like you said, the coordinators,

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<v Speaker 1>then Quinn's gonna find a way to get de Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence productive out there, and if he's not out there

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<v Speaker 1>putting up crazy numbers, he's at least opening things up

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<v Speaker 1>for other people along the defensive line. The Galamore is

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<v Speaker 1>the o Diggy zooas the Randy Gregory's to have one

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<v Speaker 1>on ones out there. Parsons as well. He benefits off

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<v Speaker 1>of the Marcus Lawrence being out there so he can

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<v Speaker 1>have the one on one. So I'm definitely with bringing

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<v Speaker 1>the Marcus Lawrence back, even though it's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>high cap hit and at least letting him go out

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<v Speaker 1>there improve he's worth that value rather than just saying

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<v Speaker 1>all right, man, you know, thanks, thanks for your business,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's trying to walk on so I wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. So I'm in the business of keeping

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<v Speaker 1>the Marcus Lawrence when it comes to Mary Cooper, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know kind of fifty fifty because I'm nervous or

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<v Speaker 1>what that that wide receiver corps is gonna look out

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<v Speaker 1>without him. But with that high cap number and him

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<v Speaker 1>not getting the targets or the attempts or the or

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<v Speaker 1>the catches that he needs to kind of fulfill that number,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got me a little nervous. So I'm leaning towards

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<v Speaker 1>d Law over over Mark Cooper on this one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>same here, same here. I'm with you, man, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out and killing helping guys out, bro attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>because because next week we have to have the same

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about Zeke, Like it's gonna be there, right because

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<v Speaker 1>now you've got TP, you got Zeke. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>find out like what he still has left and all

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff. And I don't think the conversation should even

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<v Speaker 1>have to be had if you do the correct thing

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<v Speaker 1>with the guy. All right, he's not an Alvakamar. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not that's not it's not the type of guy that

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<v Speaker 1>he is going to be. But we know his skill set,

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<v Speaker 1>we know what he can do, and we and we

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<v Speaker 1>saw it this season. We saw it this season when

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<v Speaker 1>you gave him the opportunity, especially before he got hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, it just kind of feels it

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<v Speaker 1>out like Mark Cooper makes the noise they gave him,

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<v Speaker 1>gave me the ball, win game. It was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of out routes here here you go, all right, get out,

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<v Speaker 1>get out of here. Let me throw the said. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, my bad, should bad man. You approved

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<v Speaker 1>me all the way wrong. But all right, man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's eleven oh four. Our time has come to an

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<v Speaker 1>end a lot longer than I thought we would. Go.

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<v Speaker 1>Um shout out to Will McClay for definitely stopping by

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<v Speaker 1>the Player's Lounge and giving us his two cents on

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<v Speaker 1>on his role in the offseason and how he evaluate

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<v Speaker 1>it's players. Once again, I'm your average box safety Barry

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<v Speaker 1>Church brought here with my boy. I'm all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Oh, you're an apology or an apology because

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<v Speaker 1>this is it's it's a little bang bang like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little harder than it looks. But I'm here with

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