WEBVTT - Takeaways from the 2025 Masters with Trevor Immelman

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<v Speaker 1>I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset.

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<v Speaker 2>When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I find my ball in a fried.

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<v Speaker 2>Egg Friday egg, the dreaded Frida egg, Frida egg, fridagg

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<v Speaker 2>bride egg, Lie, I'm about ready to run off of.

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<v Speaker 1>The Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Golf Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, Andy Johnson, and I am back

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<v Speaker 1>at home after an unforgettable Masters Uh tournament. I am

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if we will ever see as thrilling of

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<v Speaker 1>a tournament for my lifetime covering the sport, however long

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<v Speaker 1>that goes after this year. I am just so grateful

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<v Speaker 1>that I was there. Rory McElroy just went through it all.

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<v Speaker 1>There were the highs, lows, a lot of other highs,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of other lows on his way of

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<v Speaker 1>capturing his first major championship since twenty fourteen, completing the

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<v Speaker 1>career Grand Slam, becoming the sixth player in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of golf to do so, joining Jack Nicholas, Tiger Woods,

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<v Speaker 1>Gary player Ben Hogan, and Gene Sarazen and the players

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<v Speaker 1>that have accomplished that. I was on the grounds and

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<v Speaker 1>I followed the final group all day on Sunday. Brendan

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<v Speaker 1>Porath and I did a long recap of what it

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<v Speaker 1>was like to be on the ground on Sunday night

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<v Speaker 1>on the shotgun start. But I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a buzz and I'm not sure I'll lose

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<v Speaker 1>that buzz. It's just it's a reminder that the Masters

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<v Speaker 1>is just this unbelievable tournament because of the the players,

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<v Speaker 1>the history and what it's been able to become with

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<v Speaker 1>the you know what winning a green jacket and tails

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that gravity of that, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course. I mean, the the golf course is just

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<v Speaker 1>an extraordinary test. There are no places to hide. Every

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<v Speaker 1>year going down there, I'm just amazed at how you

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<v Speaker 1>just have to hang on and in every part of

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<v Speaker 1>your game you just cannot hide. There are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're worried about your chipping, you're going to find

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in some very difficult locations that you need to

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<v Speaker 1>hit good chips or else you could make a double

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<v Speaker 1>or worse from as we saw with blood Big on

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteenth hole or Rory in the fourteenth hole, like

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<v Speaker 1>you can be in what seems like a fairly benign

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<v Speaker 1>position and and everything can get away from you so quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just an amazing golf course. You have to put

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<v Speaker 1>it well, you have to drive it well, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have to hit your approach shots great. I'm thrilled to

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<v Speaker 1>be joined by Trevor Emmmelman, master Champion himself lead analyst

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<v Speaker 1>on CBS. He was doing the telecast with Jim Nantz,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was phenomenal. It was great. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a long flight home that I was able to sit

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<v Speaker 1>and sit down and watch the telecast. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was really spectacular. The team at CBS is doing really

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<v Speaker 1>great job showing golf and I thought that was a

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary telecast and was awesome to watch after being out

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground. You you know, out there with no

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<v Speaker 1>phones and you know, kind of a very large patron

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<v Speaker 1>gallery you are, you're seeing what you see and relying

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<v Speaker 1>on roars and and kind of murmurs through the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>to know what else is going on on the golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, coming back and watching the telecast was was

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<v Speaker 1>just extremely additive and it was a great way to

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<v Speaker 1>relive what was a sunday I will never forget. Big

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<v Speaker 1>congrats to Rory McRoy for getting it done, getting across

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<v Speaker 1>the line, ending the drought, and UH launching what now

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<v Speaker 1>looks to be a extraordinary major season set up for him.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see if he can snag another one or more

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<v Speaker 1>with with what's coming down the pipe with Quail Hollow

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<v Speaker 1>just a couple of weeks away. So Trevor, Trevor joined big.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to him for carving some time out in his

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<v Speaker 1>busy schedule. I think we will be doing these after

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<v Speaker 1>every major ME and Trevor, so lock in and enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>this one. It was great to unpack everything with the

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<v Speaker 1>UH with the great Trevor Immelman. All right, before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to Trevor Big, thanks to be Dratty. Be Dratty

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<v Speaker 1>ever gotten so many compliments on what I was wearing

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Trevor, welcome in. I gotta say it had

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<v Speaker 1>to be. I mean, when you come down from calling

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<v Speaker 1>that sports event. I watched the telecast on my flight

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<v Speaker 1>back home. I was out in the crowd, in the

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<v Speaker 1>with the patrons all day long on Sunday, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>living with the roars. I didn't realize how much stuff

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<v Speaker 1>I missed. But you know, that's that's the nature of

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<v Speaker 1>covering the masters in person. For you are you have

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<v Speaker 1>you processed where this sporting event might sit in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of all timers for golf.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, it's awesome to be with you. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>saw you from a distance last week, didn't didn't didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get up to you to be able to shake your

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<v Speaker 2>hand and say hi. I know, busy you guys were.

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading all the newsletters and all that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff, keeping track. But you know, I'm this is

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<v Speaker 2>the first time I'm starting to think about it. Yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>went up to congaree and rarely just tried to unplug

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<v Speaker 2>from the whole thing and not think about it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>We did fifteen hours of live golf television on the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend on CBS, which is it's kind of hard to

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<v Speaker 2>even wrap your mind around the intensity of that. But

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<v Speaker 2>as you start to let it settle and let your

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts start to fall in line, it's an all timer.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you start to throw it up there with

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<v Speaker 2>Jack in eighty six and Tiger in twenty nineteen. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Tiger had a bunch of them when he

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<v Speaker 2>completed the Grand Slam in two thousand, when he was

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<v Speaker 2>winning those majors by you know, eight, ten, twelve shots

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<v Speaker 2>all the time you won four straight majors. This is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be thrown right in there the meaning of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Look winning a green jacket, And I don't say this

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<v Speaker 2>just because I'm lucky I've to have done it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it might sound a little weird. That's not my style.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys know that, But winning a green jacket is

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<v Speaker 2>it's such a monumental moment in your life anyway, And

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<v Speaker 2>now for him, after all these years of like anticipation

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<v Speaker 2>and build up and heartbreak, for him to get that

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<v Speaker 2>done is tremendous in its own aspect. But the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he's done it to join this list of five

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<v Speaker 2>other guys, you know, sort of like a mount Rushmore

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<v Speaker 2>with an extra little piece on it, with six of

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<v Speaker 2>them now is it's going to be remembered for a

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<v Speaker 2>very very very long time and spoken of as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>where were you on that day when McElroy felt like

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<v Speaker 2>he choked it away every third hole but eventually ended

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<v Speaker 2>up winning. I mean, it was a remarkable week. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>was great about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think something that was telling when he talked afterwards

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<v Speaker 1>was and I think, like, I think this puts it

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<v Speaker 1>into perspective a little bit, because everybody was like talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the time span of the chances at the career

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<v Speaker 1>Grand Slam you know, and the pressure of coming there,

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<v Speaker 1>for this was the eleventh year in a row with

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<v Speaker 1>the chance to win the career Grand Slam. He kind

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<v Speaker 1>of joked, like, what are we going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>next year? But then when you add in what he

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<v Speaker 1>added in was like my disappointment since twenty eleven. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so just if you looked at just the Masters,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just this, you know, fourteen years of disappointment and heartbreak.

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<v Speaker 1>And whether it was one of the years that he

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<v Speaker 1>missed the cut and bombed out, that's like one type

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<v Speaker 1>of heartbreak. Whether it's twenty eleven where he had the

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<v Speaker 1>tournament in his palm on the back nine, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different type of heartbreak. The middle period where

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<v Speaker 1>he like is resigned that he's so happy that he

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<v Speaker 1>finished second in a non competitive second, like he's just

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<v Speaker 1>elated that he had a good memory leaving there. But

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<v Speaker 1>then when you add on top of that the last

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<v Speaker 1>three years of major championship, like the close calls, the

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<v Speaker 1>not getting across the line at the old course, LACC

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<v Speaker 1>and Pinehurst, it's just like, I think the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I took away from watching the telecast when you were

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground, you felt you felt the energy and

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<v Speaker 1>like you you felt these like raw emotions of like

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<v Speaker 1>in the swings and watching the telecast seeing just seeing

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<v Speaker 1>Rory's face. Yeah, and what you could just see the

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<v Speaker 1>the enormity of the moment, the enormity of the accomplishment,

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<v Speaker 1>and also all the things that he was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get through and get across the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what was quite fascinating to me. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Lanson, I sit down in Butler Cabin, our little studio,

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<v Speaker 2>Our little booth is down in the back of Butler Cabin,

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<v Speaker 2>right next to where you guys watched the presentation. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's the room we sit in. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>had that line at the end when he reacted and

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<v Speaker 2>he went down to the ground and you could see

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<v Speaker 2>he was like so emotional about it, and it almost

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<v Speaker 2>looked like he was struggling to breathe at one point.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had a line that I threw out there,

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<v Speaker 2>something something like you know that that's eleven years of

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<v Speaker 2>a built up emotion coming out right there. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he came in and Jim mentioned that to him in

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<v Speaker 2>this in the presentation, and when he said, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's actually fourteen years since twenty eleven. I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>we when we think of Rory, we think of oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's you know, where's his emotions on his sleeve. He's

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<v Speaker 2>the most open and honest golfer out there. He answers

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<v Speaker 2>every question. He tells you exactly how he feels, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even at times to his own detriment because he can

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<v Speaker 2>contradict himself because he's been around for so long and

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<v Speaker 2>his positions have changed, and you know, people call him

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<v Speaker 2>a flip flopper, but it's like, hey, this guy's been

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<v Speaker 2>around for like, you know, almost two decades. He's allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to change his opinion as he matures. But what I

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<v Speaker 2>realized was, man, that even though he had won four majors,

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<v Speaker 2>since he had won I don't know, what is he

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty nine PGA Tour events, probably twenty DP World

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<v Speaker 2>Tour events. I mean, this guy's won all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's that thirty nine DP World PGA Tour

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<v Speaker 1>winds Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So even though he's done all of that, that twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eleven Masters was like a thorn in his side. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the thing that has made him get up

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning for the last fourteen years. And that

0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.720
<v Speaker 2>to me was we learned something about him that we

0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:28.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't know because a lot of people would say, Okay,

0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.320
<v Speaker 2>well he choked that Masters in twenty eleven, but then

0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.600
<v Speaker 2>he went to the next year so open and won

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<v Speaker 2>by I don't know how many went by six or

0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.880
<v Speaker 2>eight or something like that, and they're like, oh, he's

0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.280
<v Speaker 2>put the demons to best bed. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>this has been bothering him for fourteen years, bro. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that to me was something like, Wow, I just

0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:56.920
<v Speaker 2>learned something about Rory McElroy. And the atmosphere was so

0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:01.240
<v Speaker 2>thick and heavy the whole day, all the way through.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was still super emotional when he came

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<v Speaker 2>into Butler Kevin, What a day? What a week?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the the I think you nailed it. Like the

0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:18.520
<v Speaker 1>emotions were that, the outpouring of them. I was standing

0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.920
<v Speaker 1>where like kind of in that tunnel where they walk

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<v Speaker 1>off the green and by the time he got to

0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.400
<v Speaker 1>scoring scoring it look, I mean he was he couldn't

0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.280
<v Speaker 1>control them, like they were like just flying out like it.

0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's just like you see like this, and I

0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:39.400
<v Speaker 1>think like the thing with with golf is people say,

0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.480
<v Speaker 1>like you, when you play competitive golf, you never forget anything.

0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:48.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like you can you remember the smallest little details

0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:52.720
<v Speaker 1>of these innate in these like innocuous rounds of golf. Yeah,

0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.040
<v Speaker 1>but for Rory, I have to imagine that twenty eleven

0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.040
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like the first time that that that

0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:04.720
<v Speaker 1>sort of he felt, that meltdown kind of happened, that

0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:09.879
<v Speaker 1>sensation of that happened. And one of the hard things,

0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure you could speak to this much more

0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.919
<v Speaker 1>than I can opine and project, but one of the

0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.040
<v Speaker 1>hardest parts about the Masters is you have to keep

0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:24.880
<v Speaker 1>coming back to the place that you've you've experienced failure

0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.159
<v Speaker 1>or coming up short. And we've seen it with so

0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.760
<v Speaker 1>many players, whether it's Ernie El's, you know, Greg Norman,

0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Tom Weiskough, Phil for years. It took Phil forever to

0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:40.080
<v Speaker 1>get over the line, and now Rory it's like these

0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the year after a year of having to go back

0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to that same place, Like you just have that association

0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and that deep rooted association. You could tell yourself, oh,

0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I love this place, I'm happy here, but

0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.760
<v Speaker 1>deep down you have those bad memories.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure. Hey, you can add Justin Rose's name

0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:08.879
<v Speaker 2>to that list. Now he's had so many close calls.

0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Now had two shots at it in playoffs. I mean,

0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.600
<v Speaker 2>this one was a little bit of a gift. He

0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:22.119
<v Speaker 2>played brilliant golf, and you know, Rory kept bringing everybody

0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.680
<v Speaker 2>back into it, but yeah, you're right. And I brought

0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.359
<v Speaker 2>that up on Sunday when they got to the tenth tee,

0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:34.720
<v Speaker 2>and you know, we realized afterwards that twenty eleven is

0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.480
<v Speaker 2>clearly in his mind, and you know, he had to

0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.760
<v Speaker 2>face that situation again of here I am with the

0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.159
<v Speaker 2>lead nine holes to go, and now I've got to

0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.840
<v Speaker 2>hit this t shirt where it all started to come

0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:53.439
<v Speaker 2>unglued last time, and he ended up making a birdie

0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:57.000
<v Speaker 2>at ten this time, And at that point was one

0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.919
<v Speaker 2>of the many, many many times during the week that

0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought, oh, he's got this. I'm not ashamed to

0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.280
<v Speaker 2>say it. I'm sure I'll take some heat for this,

0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:19.800
<v Speaker 2>but whatever. On Thursday already, when he was what four

0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:23.840
<v Speaker 2>or five under going to the fifteenth holl four under was.

0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:26.560
<v Speaker 1>It and just over the green like he hits that

0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.320
<v Speaker 1>iron shot. It was a good iron. It came out

0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:29.400
<v Speaker 1>a little flat.

0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Came out a little flat. He must have popped up

0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.960
<v Speaker 2>his drive just a little bit and didn't quite catch

0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.480
<v Speaker 2>it because he was quite well behind the guys he

0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.159
<v Speaker 2>was playing with, but he's still got an iron in.

0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we know how high this guy can hit

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 2>his irons probably, you know.

0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.680
<v Speaker 1>We saw it the next two days. Yeah, two of

0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the next three days he.

0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Could probably launch it up, you know, higher than anybody

0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:54.439
<v Speaker 2>since Tiger. At that point already, I was like, Okay,

0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.080
<v Speaker 2>everything is starting to play out for him to win

0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:01.240
<v Speaker 2>this tournament. And then he goes double bogey double bogie's

0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.439
<v Speaker 2>seventeen and shoots even power and he's seven back, and

0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:08.399
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, there's another year, another year that he's

0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.600
<v Speaker 2>let slip by coming in in good form. And then

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.000
<v Speaker 2>he shoots sixty six the next day and you're like, Okay,

0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:19.359
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna win it. This is it. He's back, no problems,

0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.919
<v Speaker 2>and he keeps it going on the third day and

0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like this is meant to be, and he's got

0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the big lead and then he hits it up the

0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:37.440
<v Speaker 2>face on the first just completely butchers the hole. On Sunday,

0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean takes four to get down from I don't

0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:43.919
<v Speaker 2>know sixty yards or.

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:45.760
<v Speaker 1>So with a lot of green.

0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, with the whole location all the way in

0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:54.639
<v Speaker 2>the back and you're like, oh no, it's heartbreak again

0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.240
<v Speaker 2>for this poor guy. He plays the first and second

0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 2>and two over, he's thinking about playing him in one.

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:03.040
<v Speaker 2>That's a three shot swing. And then he birdies three

0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.639
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, okay, he's back. There's no problem with me.

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Birdi's four and you're like, oh, he's going to win again.

0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:13.480
<v Speaker 2>So from Thursday afternoon to Sunday afternoon must have been

0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.760
<v Speaker 2>ten times where I thought to myself he had lost

0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:26.520
<v Speaker 2>it and won it. It was the most volatile mental

0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:30.440
<v Speaker 2>experience at a major championship that I've ever experienced as

0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:33.840
<v Speaker 2>a fan, ever had to go through as a fan.

0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, by the way, and I will just say this,

0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:43.000
<v Speaker 2>it's not just Rory that that's happening with. There's so

0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.880
<v Speaker 2>many other players too that are they are up there.

0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:51.399
<v Speaker 2>Rose shoots the sixty five on the first day and

0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:53.199
<v Speaker 2>it's the same kind of back and forth, and then

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:59.880
<v Speaker 2>he shoots the seventy five on Saturday. Just puts terrible.

0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.159
<v Speaker 2>He averaged more than two putts a hole.

0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.000
<v Speaker 1>That was that to me is like one of the

0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:10.000
<v Speaker 1>like the sliding doors things about this is like the

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:14.360
<v Speaker 1>putter on Saturday afternoon just completely abandoned him, Like, I mean,

0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember exactly which hole he three punted from,

0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:23.160
<v Speaker 1>like four feet on sixteen? Was it eight or fifteen?

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:27.200
<v Speaker 1>He three punted from four feet somewhere on Saturday, and

0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:31.639
<v Speaker 1>it's just like he was hitting it so close and

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:34.400
<v Speaker 1>just getting nothing out of it all Saturday afternoon.

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:35.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you want to know what's not? So he

0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.000
<v Speaker 2>had three three putts on Saturday, and he had two

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 2>three puts on Sunday and still made ten birdies on Sunday.

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:49.440
<v Speaker 2>But on Saturday he averaged two point zero six putts

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:54.400
<v Speaker 2>per green and the field average was one point sixty three.

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.560
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, he just got absolutely crushed on the greens.

0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.440
<v Speaker 2>So but anyway, I was saying, you go through these

0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:04.320
<v Speaker 2>ebbs and flows with all these players, the shambo as well.

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, he would hit two or three good irons

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:09.560
<v Speaker 2>in a row and you're like, okay, he's found something.

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:12.959
<v Speaker 2>And then he'd have a wedge into a green and

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 2>hit it twenty yards short and you're like, dude, what

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 2>is that? You know, the wind's not blown that hard

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:23.439
<v Speaker 2>out there. The lie wasn't you know in a first

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.359
<v Speaker 2>cut or second cut, excuse me? And something that you

0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.960
<v Speaker 2>think could jump will come out soft? The amount of

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 2>iron shots that he hit off of a tee on

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 2>a part three and from the fairway there would go

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty yards long and twenty yards short. If he somehow

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 2>finds a way to clean that up, he is a

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:46.160
<v Speaker 2>problem for these guys. Man, he is a problem.

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I uh, I want to get to Bryson. I think

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:54.119
<v Speaker 1>like one of the things that I while watching the

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 1>telecast I was thinking about was, you know, we talked

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 1>about all the build up of of in the scar

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 1>tissue of the the from twenty eleven on here also

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.120
<v Speaker 1>in the round like everybody talked to you know when

0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 1>he talked about Rory before this year at the Masters,

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like how does he need to get it done? He

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:23.439
<v Speaker 1>needs to avoid double bogies or worse, he has to

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 1>avoid soft boat, like the quintessential soft bogies, and like

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>you think through it, he made four double bogee. Yeah,

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.920
<v Speaker 1>he had bogey's like the eighth on Saturday, where you're

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:39.360
<v Speaker 1>just like what what how did you make bogey here?

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, and you think about like the whole totality

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:47.920
<v Speaker 1>of the tournament, and it was like he literally had

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to overcome like every every like obstacle of of like

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>what has snake bitten him at augustin National Ye double bogies,

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:03.479
<v Speaker 1>the big numbers, the you know, the soft bogies, and

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>he did it by like what tantalizes everybody about him

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>as a player is just the the sheer explosiveness in

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:18.120
<v Speaker 1>his game, the shot making, the ability to come out

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>of the gate with six straight threes, you know, like

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 1>being able to go to gear that nobody else in

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the game can really touch.

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I've said that before in this kind of

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 2>setting and probably on TV as well, when when Rory

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 2>is it full flight, He's the closest thing we've seen

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 2>to Tiger in his prime. There's been other players that

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>are very good, good, good good Hall of Fame style players,

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 2>major champions, World number one's great players. Tiger Woods is

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:59.120
<v Speaker 2>on a completely different level to basically everybody but Jack

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 2>and Rory. One of the reasons why it's been so

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 2>frustrating to watch him over the years is because every

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.159
<v Speaker 2>now and then he touches that like he dips his

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 2>toe into those waters. But then he does ridiculous things

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 2>to where you like it's head scratching moments and mistakes

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 2>that those two players Tiger and Jack never ever made.

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 2>But when he's rarely going, when he's feeling it, gosh

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 2>it is. It's insane when you start to think of

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 2>the difference in quality the spectrum of shots that Maceroy hit.

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Just on the second nine on Sunday, I mean, okay,

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 2>the T shot of ten, I'm going to do a

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 2>real quick run through right the T shirt of ten. Perfect.

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Then he felt the face flip a little on the

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 2>second shot, but it came out perfect and he makes

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 2>the putt, so it's like an ideal hole. Then he

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 2>blows the T shot out to the right, probably twenty

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 2>yards further right than what he's thinking at eleven. So

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 2>not a great shot, just an average shot. Then he

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>gets a seriously lucky break on the second that's got

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 2>double written all over it. Twelve he plays perfectly. Thirteen

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 2>he decides to just push the three with down the

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 2>right hand side, which I have no problem with in

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 2>that moment. Then he's going to lay up. Then he

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 2>hits one of the worst wed shots that I've ever

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 2>seen from a player that is playing well. No, seriously,

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:52.159
<v Speaker 2>you know when you're struggling and you're missing a cut

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 2>or you're not feeling well, you hit shots that are

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 2>just ranked like horrible. Even the best players in the world.

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 2>We've seen tops, we've seen shanks, we've seen alsot But

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>when you're playing well and you're leading a major championship,

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 2>what is he leading by three or four at that time?

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it was three?

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that is? That is it's one of the worst

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:20.360
<v Speaker 2>shots I've seen. It's eighty yards he's got like he's

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 2>got Let's check the whole location. Whole location on thirteen

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 2>was eighteen on. I think he had like eighty seven.

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 2>He's got seventy yards to the front edge and.

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>A ball he was from where he laid it. The

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>other thing, he laid it up into the perfect place.

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>That's amaze, made the hole a ball.

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Let me give you a little little reference here. So

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>whole location eighteen on six right, he's aiming over there,

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 2>he is. He's pushed the shot by between fifteen and

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty yards with an eighty yard shot. I kind of

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>wonder if there was a little huzzle involved there. It

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 2>was maybe flew a little too straight for some huzzle.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 2>But and then he gets to fourteen ah, and it's

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 2>a couple of goodies. But he makes the bogie there

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 2>now it makes the bogey because he comes up short

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 2>at fourteen fifteen. He then hits a beautiful tea shot

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 2>and hits yeah, one of the shots will remember forever

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 2>when we talk about this Masters sixteen sixteen, the great

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 2>one seventeen, he hits a great one eighteen. He hits

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 2>the t shot and you're like, okay, he's got it going.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.719
<v Speaker 2>And then again with the wedge one twenty three, won

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty four. You know he's missed his target there by

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 2>quite some margin too. It's it's amazing the the ebbs

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 2>and that you go through when when you watch Rory McRoy. I,

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, I got to think about what he kept

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 2>talking about.

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>This was a question I wanted to ask that in

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the press center that I didn't get the chance to.

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>He talked to Bob Rotella. You talked about with Bob Rotella.

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>All what they're working on is finding a feeling and

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>getting to a feeling when he's playing golf. And I

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>felt like that round was just like a toggle between

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>getting there and being pulled away and having like the

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>most intrusive thoughts you could have as a golfer, Like

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>it was just this constant battle of getting to that

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>point and getting pulled back out of it and getting

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>to it. And I think there were like these moments where,

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think he was very concerned with Bryson

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>as he should have been at the start of the round,

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and it was almost like this matchplay situation and like

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>once he got done with Bryson on the tenth hole,

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>or you know, really when Bryson hid in the water

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>on eleven, Yeah, I think he knew it was over

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>for Bryson.

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you you.

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>You get out of the moment, you maybe get out

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>of the feeling, and then you have to this you

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>have to re center back into it. And it was

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>just this afternoon in the in the end of it

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>became this like this him just dealing with what was

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.959
<v Speaker 1>pulling him out of the moment was the enormity of realizing,

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>like I have I'm doing what I'm not I've never

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>been able to do. And I think, like there there's

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the whole tournament. You saw this like Saturday, it's like

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 1>is he gonna shoot sixty two? And it's like, as

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>as a golfer, you get these and I think this

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>is like the heart of these are this is why

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>people like you are freaks of nature. It's for mortals.

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 1>You get six under or five under through five and

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh my god, like like I'm five under

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>through five. I better protect this sure, And it's like

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you can't. It's so hard to stay in the moment

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>or stay keep that feeling of like I think it's

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>like full freaking Maybe it's like something like full freedom

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>for him, Yeah, where he just swings without any thoughts,

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>because that's what it like to me, Like the shot

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>on fifteen. The only way you hit that shot is

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>if you know there's no other option, and and like

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's like you almost say to yourself, well, I've

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>got to hit a great one.

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think it's difficult to chase that feeling or

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 2>even go search for it. I found that the more

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 2>you search for it, the harder it is to find.

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 2>It's one of those weird things to where you got

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 2>to let it come to you a little bit. I

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 2>believe what he's trying to tap into or what he's

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 2>trying to communicate. Sometimes it's hard to put these things

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>into words, but what he's trying to communicate is basically

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the feeling of playing like a kid yes, playing how

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>playing like you just love the game so much, playing

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 2>like you are just trying to hit great shots instead

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 2>of not hit bad shots. And to me, the emotional

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 2>ride that any Rory McElroy fan was on during that

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 2>day was you could almost feel the moments where he

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 2>started to get defensive and not play Rory McElroy golf

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 2>like a kid. And then when like you mentioned on fifteen,

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 2>where he was like, Okay, this is it. You know,

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 2>my back's against the wall again now, and now I

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 2>got to make something happen here and go for a

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 2>shot and just totally free this up and I got

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 2>to hit a twenty yard draw around this tree and

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 2>the picture was so clear to him, The moment was

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 2>so clear to him that he just pulled it off.

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:34.320
<v Speaker 2>That's playing like a kid. And it was an incredible

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 2>ride from that standpoint to see him grapple with all

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 2>of that mentally. And I said at the top of

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>the show, when we did the on camera, which was

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe at about two twenty or so on.

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Sunday, three lifetimes earlier.

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 2>It feels like, yeah, it feels like about three weeks ago.

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 2>But nance asked me, you know, what are these two

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 2>players face today and I said, well, it's completely different.

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 2>For the turvem Rory is fighting the emotional and mental

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 2>scar tissue of all these close calls, and that's that's

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 2>the part that he's going to be battling. And for

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Bryson it's more physical. He's fighting his iron game. He's

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:25.359
<v Speaker 2>distance control. Can he find a way to hit you know,

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 2>thirteen fourteen greens today and give the rest of his

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 2>game an opportunity because he was chipping and putting so

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:35.320
<v Speaker 2>well and it ended up playing out like that and

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 2>McElroy he was fighting some demons there on that second nine,

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 2>and we could see by by the reaction after he

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 2>eventually made the two foot even up to the last hole,

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, he hits the beautiful drive in regulation and

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, it's over. It's so far down name

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 2>he's got a sand wedge to the green, maybe a

0:35:55.960 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 2>chippy gap wedge, another terrible wedge shot way right. That

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 2>one's probably eight or nine steps from where he's looking,

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 2>so not a good shot by his standards at all,

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 2>And you're like, when he's throwing it away again and

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 2>then he goes for he's got a great lie uphill lie.

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 2>He can play that bunker shot anyway he wants. He

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 2>can go direct line with spin, he can go direct

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 2>line with chunk and run. He can go up the

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 2>bank with chunk and run and feed it towards the hole.

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 2>He's got so many options. And he hits a you know,

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 2>considering the situation, like an eight out of ten shot

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 2>out of the bunker, and you're like, okay, here we go.

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 2>This is right edge, five feet, not a speed problem,

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 2>slight downhill, just a standard Augusta National putt. And he

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 2>starts this thing left edge and you're like, wow, I

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.839
<v Speaker 2>can't believe this. There's just no way that this guy

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 2>can rebound from this sort of anguish and heartache. Surely,

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>now all the mojos with Rose, he's made ten birdies.

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 2>He's been given this gift. You know, when we got

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>two let's call it like seven eighth hole on Sunday,

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>and we've got that mini leaderboard on the right of

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 2>our screen, the bottom right corner of our screen that

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.959
<v Speaker 2>has five or six names on it. Rose wasn't even

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:32.720
<v Speaker 2>on that. He wasn't even on that leaderboard at that point.

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>The background was insane.

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all of a sudden, he's like I was way

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 2>out of this thing. I now I got a chance

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 2>to win the green jacket. So he's feeling completely different

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 2>going to the playoff hole. And so now you're like,

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:52.399
<v Speaker 2>Macro is no way he is, no way he can

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 2>rebound from this. The whole week's been a complete mess,

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 2>up and down all over. This is surely this is

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 2>this is one too many that he's got to go

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 2>to the will And he pipes another T shirt down

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.919
<v Speaker 2>there and stiffs the wedge and you're like, this guy, Yeah,

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 2>that's what I was talking about earlier. His great is

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 2>up there with you know, the best I've ever lived

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 2>for sure, But he takes us on a hell of

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.240
<v Speaker 2>a ride. Man, He's got a lot of Jordan Spieth

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 2>in him.

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that. I think that's the thing about

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 1>him that makes him so popular, right, is like he's

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of different than a lot of all time greats.

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think that might be part of why you know,

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 1>he he is he's gotten to this point where he

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>had these these struggles for ten plus years. Is that

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>if you think about like athletes in his class, they're

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 1>all kind of crazy people, yeah, right, like insane insane,

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 1>insane human being. Like if you think about Tom Brady,

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you think about Michael Jordan, you think about you know,

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 1>even Lebron James, Like you know, I say that with

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a you know, baited breath as a as a Michael

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Jordan guy. But but you think about these like the

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:19.439
<v Speaker 1>the all all timers, like they are they are kind

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:23.800
<v Speaker 1>of like insanely driven. You watch the Last Dance and

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan's making up things that people say to get

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>them motivated for the game. Like yeah, and you have

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Rory who's like very normal, like a very normal person

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that has these like extraordinary gifts, and what what you

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>witnessed on Sunday was like very similar to a normal

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 1>person trying to close out a club champion.

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Trying to break eighty for the first time.

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Like you you were watching someone go through it like

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>they got it that they have they have it, they

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>have it that day. But there's no it's not a

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 1>straight road, like we get a custom I mean, Rory

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:11.839
<v Speaker 1>McElroy especially now, is in you know, an all time

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 1>great category. He's the best player of the post Tiger generation.

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>And I think we could talk, we could unpack that some.

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:20.839
<v Speaker 2>I got Brooks there, you got Brooks up there as well.

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 2>You got you gotta share some respect there for sure.

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I you show some respect. But at the same time,

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 1>like the the entire portfolio, in the time, the length

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 1>he's been doing it, you know, yeah, eighteen years.

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm just throwing I'm just throwing it in there.

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>For you so you you get your you have him

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>now at this like stage. And it's like the personality

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:52.399
<v Speaker 1>types of other set athletes in this pantheon I think

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>are like dramatically different than Rory McElroy. And that's part

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of it, right, Like there's you know, there's not like

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>this like robotic nature this like you know, I think

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>like what was telling is like Bryson was shocked that

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>he didn't talk to him because he's a nice guy.

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I got. I'm shocked that Bryson is shocked.

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean just in twenty nineteen, Tony Fenow came off

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 1>the golf course and was like, Tiger didn't talk to

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 1>me all day.

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I I I just throw myself back when I was

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 2>in that situation. I'm friends with Brent brent Snedteker. I

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 2>really like Brent Snedteker. I don't know anybody who doesn't

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 2>like Brent Snedteker. I did not say one word to

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:45.399
<v Speaker 2>him until he walked up to me as we were

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 2>approaching the eighteenth green on Sunday and said, well done,

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>because I was three ahead, and so, you know, everybody

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 2>kind of knew it was over. We were both up

0:41:54.880 --> 0:42:02.480
<v Speaker 2>on the green to me this and Bryson knows this

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>better than anybody. I mean, this guy's a two time

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 2>US Open champion. He's been in this situation multiple times.

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 2>There's the focus and the intensity and the anxiety and

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 2>nervousness and the manicness of a Sunday at a major championship.

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 2>There's not much so much chatter out there.

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Man, what was he going to ask? How is your breakfast?

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Like, what are we talking? What are we going

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 2>to be talking about?

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Bryce? I love your leaders breaking fifty video.

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 2>About you know. To be fair to him, look, somebody

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 2>asked him a question and he answered it. But I

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 2>guess if I was in that situation, my answer would

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.879
<v Speaker 2>have been, well, no, I didn't want to talk to him.

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 2>He didn't want to talk to men. We're trying to

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:05.320
<v Speaker 2>win the Masters here. This is this is not like, yeah,

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 2>two buddies going out for a twilight nine holes, having

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 2>a couple of drinks, and a cigar sort of thing

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 2>with the music going. This is this is playing for legacy.

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 2>On one side, you've got Bryson with this incredible major

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 2>championship record in the last five years, trying to win

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 2>his third major in five years. I mean, can we

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 2>just talk about how good that is and how amazing

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 2>his major championship record is since the win at wing Foot.

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 2>And then on the other side of the t box,

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 2>you've got a guy that's literally trying to do something

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 2>that only five humans have ever done. There's just not

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 2>going to be a lot of talking on that in

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 2>that round of golf. Too much intensity.

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Bryson, I saw this from I think the Twitter account

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 1>was yeah, click clack. I think he would have been

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the third player. It would it would have been him,

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Tiger and Jack that had a US AM and two

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:15.360
<v Speaker 1>US Opens in a Masters if he had won. So,

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>like Bryson was playing for kind of like a very

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 1>rarefied error. So not the same as the Grand Slam.

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like you can put partition a lot

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 1>of things together to make these like small little clubs.

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 1>But like anytime you get into like a I have

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 1>three majors and I'm my combination of accomplishments are with

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Jack and Tiger. You get to this spot, I'm gonna

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>say it.

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say it one more. I'm gonna say it again.

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 2>I've already said it. I'll probably say it again before

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>the end of this pod. He is going to be

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:55.320
<v Speaker 2>a problem in the major championships for these other players.

0:44:55.360 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 2>He has the mental build up, the toughness, he has,

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the self belief, he has incredible talents. He has the

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:12.760
<v Speaker 2>crowd on his side for the most part. He creates

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 2>incredible and amazing energy around him, and people are excited

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 2>to see him and be near him. Ah. He uh,

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna win more Majores. There's no doubt about it.

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 2>In my mind, man, no doubt about it.

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.319
<v Speaker 1>I think there were a couple of things I took

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:36.640
<v Speaker 1>away last year. I watched a ton of Bryson a ton,

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 1>and I thought it was like kind of this like

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I saw at the Master's last year. I think, like

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of public opinion shifted on him. Sure, But and

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 1>then you go and he has the US Open, which was, like,

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, an incredible When it was at a golf course,

0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't expect him to play well at And I

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 1>think like one of the more compelling aspects of the

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Bryson Rory duel was it it was unfolding at a

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 1>golf course that both of them has had a very

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 1>difficult history with. Like we've seen some of Bryson's lowest

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 1>moments at Augustin National. That's right, and I think, you know,

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 1>like it was fun a couple of years ago. You

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>do Bryson versus Larry Mayes. You know, Bryson hitt in

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 1>at three fifty and Larry Mice hitting at two thirty

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 1>and plane to draw every year, you know. But the

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:36.879
<v Speaker 1>uh what, what I'm so impressed by is how he's

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:41.720
<v Speaker 1>able to single out things that he struggles with and

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you and improve them. Last year it was the lag

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>putting and Sunday the lag putting was an issue. But

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the first three days he was unbelievable on the greens,

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and he talked about how he worked so hard on

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 1>lag putting. If you watched him on the putting green

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 1>before the before the round, it was all lag putting work.

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>It was that's all he was doing. He was putting

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:10.879
<v Speaker 1>to tee using his yardstick to measure that. I think

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 1>like this year, if you look at what he said,

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 1>he said, I have to get better and more comfortable

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>hitting off uneven lies with irons, and I thought it

0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>was telling it. I think it was. Jim said this

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 1>on the telcast Bryson. Of all the holes at Augusta National,

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the hole that he's played the worst over his career

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 1>is the tenth hole. And that's the hole that you

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 1>have probably the most severe uneven lie without like there's

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.319
<v Speaker 1>no way to avoid the uneven lie. You could hit

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:50.560
<v Speaker 1>it down the left and get a little bit less

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 1>uneven the lie. But it's like the hole that like

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:57.399
<v Speaker 1>kind of illustrates the challenge of Augusta National, I think

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 1>the most, like all the little factors that go in it.

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 1>You have the elevation, it's hard to judge the win there,

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and then you have this uneven lie like this downhill

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 1>side hill lie. And I think like his equipment makes

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 1>that more challenging because they are longer clubs and you know,

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:16.240
<v Speaker 1>it's got the big grips, and I think that makes

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 1>that aspect of it. But like here's the thing, like

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>what you said, he's going to be a problem. Yeah,

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>he has identified what he needs to improve, and throughout

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:31.920
<v Speaker 1>his career we have seen this guy, he identifies issues

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 1>and he goes into the lab. You know, that was

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.640
<v Speaker 1>a pun intended, and he he gets after it and

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:41.800
<v Speaker 1>he usually comes out a better player.

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:44.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Look, I'm following all these players leading up to

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:48.440
<v Speaker 2>the tournament. The research starts about a month before, and

0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 2>he had been he had been talking at the tournaments

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:55.360
<v Speaker 2>he was playing. He had been talking about the golf

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:59.320
<v Speaker 2>ball and having some issues with ball spinning too much

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 2>and not being able to control it the way he

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 2>wanted to control it. And he clearly had the Masters

0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:08.759
<v Speaker 2>in mind when he was making those comments, trying to

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 2>make sure that he tightened all that stuff up. But yeah,

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 2>he was able to give himself a chance to win

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 2>even with absolutely head scratching distance control issues the whole

0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 2>week at the Masters. I mean even on Sunday when

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.359
<v Speaker 2>he was wild, when he was kind of out of it,

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 2>and he gets to fifteen, hits a great T shirt

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 2>all the way down there, he's got nothing in there,

0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 2>and he makes this beautiful swing and he's like leaning forward,

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 2>posing on it, and we've got a great shot of him,

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, he likes it. It didn't even

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:53.080
<v Speaker 2>hit the bank. It flew straight into the water in

0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 2>front of the green. I mean that that is, that's

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 2>a solid ten to twelve steps from where he was

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 2>trying to land it, And it's like Wow. Normally at

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 2>the level that these guys are at, which is brilliant,

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 2>it's brilliant for the most part. They are so good

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:22.920
<v Speaker 2>that as soon as they strike the ball they know

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 2>if it's good or not. Like write at impact, guys

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 2>like that are like, oh yeah, be right, get in that,

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:37.719
<v Speaker 2>watch this. Watch this is going to be close Bryson

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:42.279
<v Speaker 2>poses on iron shots, they'll be twenty yards away from

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:46.319
<v Speaker 2>where he's looking. Distance wise, that is something that he's

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:50.359
<v Speaker 2>going to have to to rarely tighten up and pay

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 2>close attention to. And if he finds a solution, he's

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna win a major this year for sure.

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think you know, if you if you play

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:04.960
<v Speaker 1>this like out, if you game this out to one

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:07.400
<v Speaker 1>of the things about Bryson, and you know, at the

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:10.360
<v Speaker 1>moment on the teilcast, you thought like at eleven, he

0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:13.280
<v Speaker 1>had to chase, you know, this guy has to chase.

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:15.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I said that. I said that, Yeah, he had to.

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 2>He was so far back and Rory just got this

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:18.760
<v Speaker 2>good break.

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:22.360
<v Speaker 1>But the reality of what ended up unfolding. Was like,

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:25.359
<v Speaker 1>he could have probably just hit the safe shot there

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and because he you know, he this is playing it

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:32.480
<v Speaker 1>out and you know, you can't really do this, but

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:35.160
<v Speaker 1>like the reality, I don't. I don't think he was

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:37.719
<v Speaker 1>hitting the ball well enough either way to win.

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 2>No, but this thing that there's a way though, there's

0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 2>a way though you can you can play aggressively and

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:50.439
<v Speaker 2>you can chase and not let that ball get left

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 2>of the flagstick. What you know, I don't want people

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:57.879
<v Speaker 2>to to misunderstand what I was trying to get at

0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:02.040
<v Speaker 2>the Ordinarily, at eleven, you're pretty much aiming at the

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 2>right edge of the green. Okay, So what I'm saying

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:10.240
<v Speaker 2>is he's got the short club, he's hit a brilliant

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:13.480
<v Speaker 2>T shirt, so this one is gonna it's gonna start

0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 2>turning closer to the hole here. But I'm not talking

0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 2>about letting it drift left of that whole location. I mean,

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 2>that's like there's no space over there at all. So

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, be more aggressive. Is this needs to be

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, inside twenty feet right of that flagstick. But yeah,

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 2>still in his mind, he's not thinking ror he's gonna

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 2>make seventh thirteen.

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean nobody did though, Like all those I bet

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Justin Rose thought he needed to get to twelve, you know,

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:54.560
<v Speaker 1>yeah to have a chance. I think the thing that

0:52:54.600 --> 0:53:01.879
<v Speaker 1>I'll take from Bryson is the Saturday finish. And it's

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 1>like the number of players that would have been able

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:09.640
<v Speaker 1>to when they clearly didn't have the stuff lift their

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 1>games up. Because he wanted to get into that final group. Yeah,

0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the final pairing, and the built the way to finish

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:21.279
<v Speaker 1>with three birdies on those last four holes and like

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:26.399
<v Speaker 1>just like move move himself into right where he wanted

0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to be. It is like he manifested I am going

0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 1>to get into the final group and I will get there.

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>And it just like it's like, you know, to finish

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:38.839
<v Speaker 1>that way on Saturday, I just thought was like, I mean,

0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:42.960
<v Speaker 1>you knew he was not at his at full flight

0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:46.000
<v Speaker 1>with his with his irons, and to get there was

0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:47.600
<v Speaker 1>just extraordinary.

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it's just brilliant. And the party made on

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 2>the lost toll. You drive it into the left Beiwet bunker,

0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:00.239
<v Speaker 2>quite a nice second shot. The whole locations all the

0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 2>way at the back right and it's about twelve yards

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 2>up the hill, so there's a lot going on there

0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 2>you can't see the surface of the green, and he

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:11.520
<v Speaker 2>gets it onto the correct level and then makes that

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:15.640
<v Speaker 2>put with everybody there, It's like the defining moment of

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:20.120
<v Speaker 2>the day really is him making that put and getting

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:27.799
<v Speaker 2>within striking distance of Rory. You know, it's interesting because

0:54:27.840 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I think back to Macarroy's he's been maturing as well.

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 2>We've had similar concerns and issues about him and with

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 2>his wedge plate and his distance control and his ability

0:54:38.760 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 2>to rarely be precise with the Irons, and Bryson is

0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 2>in that same slot. But he's so smart. He has

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:54.520
<v Speaker 2>incredible discipline, incredible work ethic. He's a thinker, as we

0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:58.319
<v Speaker 2>all know, He's going to find a solution to this.

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 2>I really do believe he'll He'll find a solution to

0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:03.399
<v Speaker 2>be able to tighten that up.

0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 1>The I think, like you just hit on something I

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 1>wanted to touch on. Is I do think, like you know,

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Rory's talked about, I'm the most complete player I've ever been. Yeah,

0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:19.080
<v Speaker 1>And I think this year we've seen Rory take his

0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:23.799
<v Speaker 1>his golf game to whole new level with the you know,

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you take away like some of the Irons late on

0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Sunday and I thought that was the most complete iron

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:35.080
<v Speaker 1>performance we've ever seen from him in terms of distance control.

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:37.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think that's been the thing that's kind

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of plagued him at Augusta is like maybe the iron

0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 1>play wasn't exactly where it needed to be to you know,

0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 1>hit a lot of shots, pin high hit, you know,

0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:49.799
<v Speaker 1>avoid getting in places we saw Bryson get into when

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you have distance control issues, Yeah, where you get above

0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the hole on four right. So he I think he's pushed,

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:59.520
<v Speaker 1>he's gotten to this place, and I think, like I'm

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:01.720
<v Speaker 1>not you know, I don't know if this is true

0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:03.560
<v Speaker 1>or not, but like, to me, like one of the

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:07.360
<v Speaker 1>things that might be a reason why is Scotty Scheffler.

0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I think Scotty Scheffler clearly taking the top spot in

0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:18.360
<v Speaker 1>the game of golf last year by stranglehold where you know,

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 1>even Rory McElroy, and I've said this before on this podcast,

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how many times in his career Rory McElroy

0:56:24.719 --> 0:56:26.799
<v Speaker 1>has just been like, yes, Scott, he's the best player

0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:28.919
<v Speaker 1>in the world. Like, how many players has he said

0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:33.560
<v Speaker 1>that about? You know, maybe never, Yeah.

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:36.600
<v Speaker 2>He's fled out, said, he's fled out, said in the media.

0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:40.880
<v Speaker 2>He wants to play more like Scotty. Yeah, and what

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:45.480
<v Speaker 2>he's trying to communicate there is less of what we

0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:55.239
<v Speaker 2>saw on Sunday. He wants to be more consistent, uh,

0:56:55.560 --> 0:57:02.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, more disciplined, more strategic, because that's how Scheffler is.

0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, Scheffler is just ordinarily so clean with the

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:12.280
<v Speaker 2>way he plays. Let's take a look how many double

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:15.080
<v Speaker 2>bogees Scottish Scheffler made. How many do you think how

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 2>many he didn't have his best week?

0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe one?

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 2>He ended up four, finishing fourth. Scottish Scheffler had zero

0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:30.439
<v Speaker 2>double bogies last week. So that's kind of what Rory means.

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:33.120
<v Speaker 2>And I do think that he is he he's taken

0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 2>that to heart because they've got them placed together so much.

0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 2>And when you start to unpack the twenty twenty four

0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:44.560
<v Speaker 2>season for Scheffler and winning nine times around the world,

0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:46.880
<v Speaker 2>and Okay, how's he gotten this done? What has he

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:50.200
<v Speaker 2>done in order to be that great for such a

0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:54.360
<v Speaker 2>long period of time. Yeah, that's that's the thing that

0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:58.480
<v Speaker 2>if Rory can find a way, that'll be.

0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 1>So I think with this iron play, like he's leading

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the tournament in strokes gain approach through three rounds and

0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:11.680
<v Speaker 1>something I was I jotted down is like it is

0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Rory the most complete player in golf the way he's

0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:19.640
<v Speaker 1>been hitting his irons this year, because like you start

0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 1>to look at him and there's no deficiency, right, the

0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:27.600
<v Speaker 1>putter can get is is streaky, right, but when it's good,

0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:30.000
<v Speaker 1>it's really good. Yeah, And when it's bad, it's not

0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not really bad. And I think, like you start

0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:35.400
<v Speaker 1>to look at it, and it's like Scotty's probably is

0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:39.720
<v Speaker 1>a better iron player, right, Rory's got the ability to

0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 1>hit a thirty past Scotty yeap, you know, and drive

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:45.440
<v Speaker 1>the ball a little bit with a little bit more explosiveness.

0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Scotty short game is probably a little bit better, but

0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Rory short game is really good too. And at the

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:53.360
<v Speaker 1>with the putter, you know, Rory McElroy is a better

0:58:53.400 --> 0:58:57.200
<v Speaker 1>putter than Scotty Shuffler. Like I think you he's got

0:58:57.640 --> 0:58:59.640
<v Speaker 1>He had this moment last year where he's like, I'm

0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:01.920
<v Speaker 1>not the best player in the world anymore. To me,

0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it feels like he that has motivated him in taking

0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:07.280
<v Speaker 1>his game to hold another level.

0:59:07.360 --> 0:59:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sure has, And that's why he tells the

0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:14.480
<v Speaker 2>story of basically locking himself in a simulator and making

0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:16.760
<v Speaker 2>the changes to his swing for a couple of weeks

0:59:16.760 --> 0:59:19.560
<v Speaker 2>in the fall that he made was because he knew

0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:23.640
<v Speaker 2>that there was something missing technique wise in order to

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:29.080
<v Speaker 2>be able to have that consistency and be able to

0:59:29.120 --> 0:59:32.480
<v Speaker 2>be on the level to compete with Schefler week in

0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:37.160
<v Speaker 2>and week out. If we go with recency bias, which

0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 2>is always such a heavy thing to weigh, then yeah,

0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Rory is the most complete player right now. But I

0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:48.280
<v Speaker 2>think we just got to pump the brakes and remember

0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:52.680
<v Speaker 2>last year. Remember the golf we saw from Schefler, Remember

0:59:52.680 --> 0:59:56.800
<v Speaker 2>the golf we saw from Zander. It's been a bit

0:59:56.920 --> 1:00:00.360
<v Speaker 2>awkward to start to the season with those two guys

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<v Speaker 2>being injured. You know, they're rarely not gosh. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even feel like Xander's out of second gear yet this year.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still figuring things out. Scotty is Scotty's Scotty's out

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<v Speaker 2>of second gear, but he's not in He's not in

1:00:16.480 --> 1:00:21.640
<v Speaker 2>sport mode yet like he was last year. And if

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<v Speaker 2>Rory can maintain this level, I mean, think about the

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<v Speaker 2>places he's won Man Augusta National, Pebble Beach and the

1:00:30.760 --> 1:00:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Stadium Course, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about where think about where we're going the next

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<v Speaker 1>next three Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. But if if Rory can maintain that and

1:00:41.000 --> 1:00:43.280
<v Speaker 2>then those guys can get back up to their level,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have a lot of fun. You start to

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<v Speaker 2>add in Bryson, you start to add in John ram

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<v Speaker 2>I spent quite a bit of time with John Rahm

1:00:55.360 --> 1:01:01.800
<v Speaker 2>in the locker room last week. Uh. He made a

1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:06.240
<v Speaker 2>brilliant ten footer on Friday afternoon late just to make

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<v Speaker 2>the cut, and then played some really good golf on

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend. And if we rewinded a couple of years before,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was the Scottish scheffler in in you

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<v Speaker 2>know what are we talking twenty two to twenty three times?

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<v Speaker 2>He was the guy that was super consistent, being in

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<v Speaker 2>the top ten all the time. We've got five or

1:01:30.440 --> 1:01:34.400
<v Speaker 2>six guys. I'd love to throw Oberg in there. I'd

1:01:34.440 --> 1:01:39.480
<v Speaker 2>love to throw more Kawa in there. That if we

1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:43.040
<v Speaker 2>get to a tournament where they all bring their best,

1:01:44.000 --> 1:01:45.200
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be a fun run.

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<v Speaker 1>To me to be with Rom He needs to get

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<v Speaker 1>to a level of I think maybe happiness. It's hard

1:01:57.720 --> 1:02:02.520
<v Speaker 1>to play great golf when you're unhappy, and it seems

1:02:02.560 --> 1:02:04.560
<v Speaker 1>to me that some of the joy if you if

1:02:04.600 --> 1:02:10.360
<v Speaker 1>you juxtapose twenty twenty two John Rahm and the way

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<v Speaker 1>he talked in press conferences. You know, the questions and

1:02:14.520 --> 1:02:16.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the answers were centered around his love

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, the history of the game. And now

1:02:20.680 --> 1:02:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you you flash forward three years later, he made a

1:02:24.600 --> 1:02:27.520
<v Speaker 1>very interesting decision with where he would play his golf

1:02:27.600 --> 1:02:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and and now he is seemingly fighting a battle of

1:02:32.600 --> 1:02:39.680
<v Speaker 1>feeling irrelevant, and his answers are are are short, they're snippier,

1:02:40.320 --> 1:02:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and I just think like, at the end of the day,

1:02:43.800 --> 1:02:52.480
<v Speaker 1>playing golf unhappy, like when you're personally feeling dissatisfaction of

1:02:52.720 --> 1:02:55.120
<v Speaker 1>some aspect. It could be anywhere in your life is

1:02:55.480 --> 1:02:58.520
<v Speaker 1>a near Playing high level golf with that is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the hardest things to do in the world. And

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<v Speaker 1>to me, like with John rom he just has to

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<v Speaker 1>get to some level of acceptance, like accept that, hey,

1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:11.200
<v Speaker 1>you know what, like, no matter what you do on

1:03:11.280 --> 1:03:15.200
<v Speaker 1>live like, nobody's going to, you know, give you the

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<v Speaker 1>credit you feel like you deserve. And look at Bryson

1:03:19.680 --> 1:03:23.360
<v Speaker 1>as an example. Nobody gave Bryson credit for the work

1:03:23.360 --> 1:03:26.080
<v Speaker 1>he was doing until he won the US Open and

1:03:26.120 --> 1:03:29.720
<v Speaker 1>now people are like, wow, look at Bryson, Like look

1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:32.760
<v Speaker 1>at this guy, Like, listen to this conversation we just had.

1:03:33.000 --> 1:03:35.600
<v Speaker 1>He is a problem. Like he's going to be a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to win more. And that's came. That came

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<v Speaker 1>from what he did at major championships because he you know,

1:03:42.440 --> 1:03:44.400
<v Speaker 1>nobody was like, you know, look at what he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>on live and this is what he's doing. And John

1:03:46.480 --> 1:03:48.959
<v Speaker 1>rom just has to accept that. Where I play golf

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<v Speaker 1>right now, nobody is going to, you know, say that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm playing great because of the nature of the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's an opinion for sure. Uh. He

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<v Speaker 2>seemed in good spirits to me last week. I would

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you that the style of questions that he

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<v Speaker 2>gets asked now is different to what it was a

1:04:18.560 --> 1:04:27.160
<v Speaker 2>few years ago. And the fuse maybe one of the

1:04:27.200 --> 1:04:29.640
<v Speaker 2>things that makes him fun to watch is he has

1:04:29.680 --> 1:04:35.360
<v Speaker 2>a short fuse. Yes, and he's like he's a unit man.

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<v Speaker 2>He is. He's a big dude, a big, strong, forceful,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's got presence about him.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's a physicality yeah to his game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you just you you know that he's there

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<v Speaker 2>and when when you have that presence and you have

1:04:58.400 --> 1:05:03.720
<v Speaker 2>this this this temperament that can just get caught on

1:05:03.800 --> 1:05:06.480
<v Speaker 2>fire at any moment. It makes it fun for us

1:05:06.520 --> 1:05:10.360
<v Speaker 2>to watch. Now. To me, the shuse is just to

1:05:10.360 --> 1:05:14.480
<v Speaker 2>touch shorter than what it always was. Maybe a little

1:05:14.520 --> 1:05:18.240
<v Speaker 2>less patience in there, but there's no denying the skill

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<v Speaker 2>set and the ability that he has to beat anybody

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<v Speaker 2>in the game. So we'll have to see if if

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<v Speaker 2>now with the schedule that they have at Live, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it may be a process of him still figuring out

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<v Speaker 2>the best way to come to major championships in his

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<v Speaker 2>best form, and we'll have to see how he deals

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<v Speaker 2>with that. Bryson has very clearly figured it out. He

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<v Speaker 2>knows exactly the formula that is needed. Five of the

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<v Speaker 2>last seven Majors now he's been in the top six

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<v Speaker 2>with that one win. You know, he knows the system

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<v Speaker 2>that he has to run, the routines that he needs

1:06:09.400 --> 1:06:13.720
<v Speaker 2>to have with the schedule, with his playing schedule, how

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<v Speaker 2>to be shop coming into the Majors. And it just

1:06:16.440 --> 1:06:19.520
<v Speaker 2>appears that John hasn't quite figured that out yet. When

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<v Speaker 2>you bake in last year's major performance and then sure

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<v Speaker 2>a great weekend here, but was never really in it

1:06:28.320 --> 1:06:33.080
<v Speaker 2>he was a ten foot away from missing cut had

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<v Speaker 2>a great weekend seventy sixty nine to finish tie for fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>So a bit of a backdoor action there. So in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, super super, super good, but needs to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out what he's got to do to be ready to

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<v Speaker 2>come into the PGA Championship. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You think about Bryson and rom They're like pretty diametrically

1:06:57.400 --> 1:07:01.960
<v Speaker 1>different people. And to me, John John thrives on the

1:07:02.080 --> 1:07:07.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the iron sharpens iron, yeah approach where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like him being him playing, Like you just

1:07:11.080 --> 1:07:13.680
<v Speaker 1>think about the lead up and think about, like how

1:07:13.760 --> 1:07:17.640
<v Speaker 1>how Rory wins this year. You know, he wins. He

1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:21.840
<v Speaker 1>plays a bunch of top flight fields. He wins two

1:07:22.000 --> 1:07:25.120
<v Speaker 1>big tournaments at at Pebble Beach and the Players, and

1:07:25.640 --> 1:07:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't not believe that that, especially the Players experience,

1:07:31.320 --> 1:07:36.280
<v Speaker 1>helped him extraordinarily in the with the Masters, where he

1:07:36.320 --> 1:07:39.680
<v Speaker 1>had the you know, disappointed, he was disappointed he was

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<v Speaker 1>even in the playoff at the Players. He had to

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<v Speaker 1>feel similarly at the Masters. And then you have Bryson

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<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, Like I think Bryson he's kind

1:07:49.040 --> 1:07:51.560
<v Speaker 1>of introverted. I think one of the things that things

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<v Speaker 1>with Live is like it's been really good for him

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<v Speaker 1>to be away, like away from the public eye. It

1:07:57.360 --> 1:07:59.880
<v Speaker 1>allows him time to work on things, and he's not

1:08:00.120 --> 1:08:03.160
<v Speaker 1>working on things in front of people, right. I think

1:08:03.160 --> 1:08:06.400
<v Speaker 1>that's always was the thing that struggle with Bryson struggled

1:08:06.400 --> 1:08:10.720
<v Speaker 1>with was like the cameras and the attention and the

1:08:10.760 --> 1:08:14.160
<v Speaker 1>weekend week out of the tour where he was working

1:08:14.280 --> 1:08:18.920
<v Speaker 1>through whether it was personal things, whether or whether it

1:08:19.000 --> 1:08:23.000
<v Speaker 1>was things in his game, you know, was that day

1:08:23.040 --> 1:08:26.439
<v Speaker 1>in day out, week in week out attention was not

1:08:26.640 --> 1:08:29.639
<v Speaker 1>good for his game. I think the opposite is true

1:08:29.640 --> 1:08:34.679
<v Speaker 1>for Rom where that that was how that playing against

1:08:34.720 --> 1:08:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the best players in the world constantly have measuring yourself

1:08:38.000 --> 1:08:42.479
<v Speaker 1>against them was what pushed Ram ahead, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like it's just hard, you know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you were playing like play. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to play a lot of basketball in my twenties and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd play, I'd play pickup ball on the weekends and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'd play in the league and like the you know,

1:09:01.680 --> 1:09:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the league with refs and everything, and you know, I

1:09:03.960 --> 1:09:07.840
<v Speaker 1>was playing a ton of basketball. And I always was

1:09:07.880 --> 1:09:12.280
<v Speaker 1>amazed how I could play hours of pick up basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>But you get into a league game, like a real game,

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<v Speaker 1>the real competition, and this is not real competition of

1:09:21.360 --> 1:09:24.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a major or even you know, any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of organ You get in a league game and

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<v Speaker 1>you play like six minutes and you're like spent. You're

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<v Speaker 1>just like, oh my god, Like I'm just like I can't,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm so tired, because that intensity ratchets up, and

1:09:40.200 --> 1:09:44.800
<v Speaker 1>if you're not playing that regularly, you just you can't

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<v Speaker 1>play long minutes in a in a in a league setting.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's something similar going on with rom

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<v Speaker 1>right now, is like, you know, like not having anything

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<v Speaker 1>that even comes close to replicating the intensity of a

1:09:58.840 --> 1:10:03.560
<v Speaker 1>major championship, and they're just being dropped in there. The Olympics,

1:10:03.720 --> 1:10:06.920
<v Speaker 1>he had that great performance that was what two weeks

1:10:06.920 --> 1:10:08.760
<v Speaker 1>after the Open Championship.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not exactly, but it wasn't that long after years.

1:10:13.560 --> 1:10:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not exactly sure, but it was pretty close where

1:10:16.120 --> 1:10:18.920
<v Speaker 2>he had the lead and then yeah, kind of threw

1:10:18.920 --> 1:10:21.479
<v Speaker 2>it away on the Sunday with Chefler shooting sixty two.

1:10:21.520 --> 1:10:21.920
<v Speaker 2>As well.

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<v Speaker 1>You think about his year last year, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a ramp up, like almost every major got a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he played better. He finished tie for seventh

1:10:31.080 --> 1:10:33.800
<v Speaker 2>at the Open. After he went he was forty fist

1:10:33.880 --> 1:10:36.240
<v Speaker 2>at the Masters. He missed the cut at the PGA

1:10:36.320 --> 1:10:39.120
<v Speaker 2>at Valhalla, and then he had the toe issue at

1:10:39.120 --> 1:10:42.080
<v Speaker 2>the US Open and couldn't couldn't compete at Pinehurst.

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<v Speaker 1>But like there's a ramp up because he was getting

1:10:45.520 --> 1:10:49.080
<v Speaker 1>acclimated to games. You know, in another sport, you'd call

1:10:49.120 --> 1:10:49.800
<v Speaker 1>it game speed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the challenge for a guy like rom.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, it's just like you always

1:10:59.600 --> 1:11:02.320
<v Speaker 1>struggle on golf when you just get dropped into something

1:11:02.439 --> 1:11:05.120
<v Speaker 1>that you're you're not necessarily ready for.

1:11:05.280 --> 1:11:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and look, talking to the LIV guys last week,

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<v Speaker 2>they seem to be I would say that they are

1:11:16.720 --> 1:11:18.759
<v Speaker 2>for sure still trying to find a way to tweak

1:11:18.800 --> 1:11:22.960
<v Speaker 2>their schedule to where it's dialed in for the majors,

1:11:23.880 --> 1:11:26.840
<v Speaker 2>not just when they're playing, but where they are playing

1:11:26.880 --> 1:11:33.360
<v Speaker 2>as well, to where you know their game is been

1:11:33.439 --> 1:11:37.920
<v Speaker 2>able to be worked on in competition, needing the style

1:11:38.000 --> 1:11:40.040
<v Speaker 2>of shots that they're going to need for that next

1:11:40.080 --> 1:11:44.080
<v Speaker 2>major championship. So I think they're still trying to get that,

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<v Speaker 2>get that figured out and dialed in in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that they want and their intention is to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that's a fair statement.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's one player we haven't talked about. Uh yeah, that

1:11:57.040 --> 1:12:00.400
<v Speaker 1>that you want to touch on here let me see here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Oberg continues to show that he's he's got

1:12:10.040 --> 1:12:10.679
<v Speaker 2>what it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Look disastrous finish. I mean just in a in a

1:12:19.800 --> 1:12:22.400
<v Speaker 2>stretcher the last two holes. I mean he's gone bogie

1:12:22.600 --> 1:12:24.719
<v Speaker 2>triple bogie to finish the tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>Make it triple a without without a penalty of stroke.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, this is this is the first time

1:12:35.840 --> 1:12:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm really sort of thinking back and I'm starting to

1:12:38.920 --> 1:12:41.080
<v Speaker 2>get some memories of the whole week. Like I said,

1:12:41.120 --> 1:12:44.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, I have breakfast with John on Sunday morning.

1:12:44.200 --> 1:12:46.840
<v Speaker 2>You run into Bubba, you run into Sergio, you speak

1:12:46.880 --> 1:12:52.439
<v Speaker 2>to all these different players, you know, Rory during the week,

1:12:52.680 --> 1:12:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Cheffler during the week. Uh and and so I'm starting

1:12:56.840 --> 1:13:02.840
<v Speaker 2>to just recollect different conversations that I had. And we

1:13:03.000 --> 1:13:09.920
<v Speaker 2>just mentioned that triple bogie. On eighteen, Oberg had a

1:13:09.960 --> 1:13:15.360
<v Speaker 2>putt on the sixteenth green to take the outright lead

1:13:18.960 --> 1:13:23.839
<v Speaker 2>and missed it, and then it went bogie, triple bogey.

1:13:24.880 --> 1:13:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I what terrible, terrible bogey at seventeen that was a

1:13:29.120 --> 1:13:30.600
<v Speaker 1>terrible three pot.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventeen is it's a hard hole man.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourteen and seventeen are so sneaky. This is something I

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<v Speaker 1>had in my notes from watching the telecast, is like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about fourteen, Rose, Rory and Ludwig all

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<v Speaker 1>hit bad t shots. Ludwig got the up and down.

1:13:48.880 --> 1:13:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mclarroy too. McRoy was to the right on fourteen

1:13:52.240 --> 1:13:54.400
<v Speaker 2>and kind of couldn't get it there him, him and

1:13:54.400 --> 1:13:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Oberg were in a similar spot and Rosy's short short

1:13:57.040 --> 1:13:57.599
<v Speaker 2>right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they all like it. It's just like it's amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like all the hoopla goes to and right lely so

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<v Speaker 1>to like thirteen and fifteen. But like if you can play,

1:14:08.800 --> 1:14:10.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're in the in the mix, and you can,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can power fourteen and seventeen, you know, like

1:14:15.760 --> 1:14:18.200
<v Speaker 1>you you're gonna pick up half a shot, maybe a

1:14:18.200 --> 1:14:21.720
<v Speaker 1>full shot on everybody around you because those holes, like

1:14:22.200 --> 1:14:23.960
<v Speaker 1>they just always trip people up.

1:14:24.960 --> 1:14:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the golf course.

1:14:28.200 --> 1:14:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Golf course is amazing, so good.

1:14:30.439 --> 1:14:37.320
<v Speaker 2>It's magnificent. It's so magnificent. Every there's just there's no

1:14:37.680 --> 1:14:43.439
<v Speaker 2>there's no sleeper holes. You know, the the third hole

1:14:45.640 --> 1:14:50.000
<v Speaker 2>is a lot easier than when it was in my day,

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<v Speaker 2>right because hardly anybody, I mean a few guys could maybe,

1:14:57.439 --> 1:14:59.880
<v Speaker 2>but you have to rip one to cover that front,

1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:03.559
<v Speaker 2>that bunker on the left at two eighty like rip one,

1:15:03.600 --> 1:15:06.680
<v Speaker 2>and you would have been like, Okay, they've moved the

1:15:06.760 --> 1:15:09.840
<v Speaker 2>tea a little forward, and maybe I got a little

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<v Speaker 2>help on the southwest winds, so now I feel a

1:15:12.760 --> 1:15:15.639
<v Speaker 2>bit better about carrying that bunker. For the most part,

1:15:15.680 --> 1:15:20.320
<v Speaker 2>players would lay up and then it's a tough web shot.

1:15:20.439 --> 1:15:25.519
<v Speaker 2>But even if you drive it down to the front

1:15:25.560 --> 1:15:28.040
<v Speaker 2>of the green where these guys are hitting it, you

1:15:28.160 --> 1:15:31.200
<v Speaker 2>still you could still make a make a mess of that.

1:15:31.280 --> 1:15:35.360
<v Speaker 2>All you know, the green is it's such an interesting,

1:15:36.680 --> 1:15:41.160
<v Speaker 2>intricate green with tiny little fingers, you know, in the

1:15:41.240 --> 1:15:44.599
<v Speaker 2>back and in the left, with enough slope to them

1:15:44.640 --> 1:15:48.040
<v Speaker 2>to where it catches your attention with enough danger if

1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:53.439
<v Speaker 2>you miss them that even with the technology change, three

1:15:53.560 --> 1:15:55.600
<v Speaker 2>is still a hole you've got to be aware of

1:15:55.680 --> 1:15:59.800
<v Speaker 2>and be careful of. But every single hole is just

1:16:00.520 --> 1:16:05.280
<v Speaker 2>so good, so difficult. You have to be so precise.

1:16:07.200 --> 1:16:10.599
<v Speaker 2>But when I say difficult, to me, the beauty of it,

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<v Speaker 2>the beauty of it is you get rewarded for playing

1:16:18.240 --> 1:16:22.559
<v Speaker 2>the way you supposed to play, And that to me

1:16:22.840 --> 1:16:27.519
<v Speaker 2>is is how how a great golf course should be.

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<v Speaker 1>Every hole is achievable, yes, like every hole, every hole.

1:16:35.560 --> 1:16:39.640
<v Speaker 1>And I was looking at driving stats on this was

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday morning, and I think this is part of

1:16:42.320 --> 1:16:45.360
<v Speaker 1>it is there's guys like Zach. I think it was

1:16:45.439 --> 1:16:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Zach Johnson and Aaron Raye. We're leading the field and

1:16:48.960 --> 1:16:49.920
<v Speaker 1>driving accuracy.

1:16:50.160 --> 1:16:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Zach tie for eighth at forty nine

1:16:52.600 --> 1:16:53.080
<v Speaker 2>years old.

1:16:53.600 --> 1:17:03.639
<v Speaker 1>Incredible performance, Like I like, honestly amazing performance. He's gonna

1:17:03.680 --> 1:17:06.040
<v Speaker 1>be a menace on on pj's Champions.

1:17:05.720 --> 1:17:13.040
<v Speaker 2>True, Bernard better retire before Zach gets there. The uh,

1:17:13.320 --> 1:17:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Zach is gonna be a problem.

1:17:15.760 --> 1:17:19.080
<v Speaker 1>So they're there, are there are driving stats they're at

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<v Speaker 1>like ninety plus percent, it was like ninety one percent. Yeah,

1:17:24.320 --> 1:17:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and when like so if you play well, like I'm

1:17:28.840 --> 1:17:30.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna be hitting from short grass into every one of

1:17:30.840 --> 1:17:35.679
<v Speaker 1>those greens. And you know, they do an amazing job

1:17:35.760 --> 1:17:38.360
<v Speaker 1>with course set up where there's this give and take,

1:17:38.439 --> 1:17:41.639
<v Speaker 1>where there are you know every day. You know, they

1:17:41.680 --> 1:17:45.280
<v Speaker 1>have this amazing ability to change a hole. You know,

1:17:45.360 --> 1:17:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't think of many courses in the world where

1:17:47.360 --> 1:17:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you can move a whole location on almost every hole

1:17:50.120 --> 1:17:53.160
<v Speaker 1>out there and change the scoring average probably close to

1:17:53.280 --> 1:17:54.080
<v Speaker 1>half a shot.

1:17:53.960 --> 1:17:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, from a bergihill to a burnial.

1:17:56.720 --> 1:18:01.400
<v Speaker 1>And they so they have this amazing versatility. And one

1:18:01.520 --> 1:18:05.759
<v Speaker 1>day you go up to to fourteen and you're thinking,

1:18:06.120 --> 1:18:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I got to make a birdie, and then they can

1:18:08.040 --> 1:18:09.960
<v Speaker 1>move the pin to the you know, into one of

1:18:09.960 --> 1:18:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the positions that's really hard, and then it becomes like, well,

1:18:13.040 --> 1:18:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I better hit a good t shot if I want

1:18:15.840 --> 1:18:17.840
<v Speaker 1>to make a bar because if I'm not in the

1:18:18.280 --> 1:18:21.480
<v Speaker 1>right spot. So you know, there's just this like amazing

1:18:21.640 --> 1:18:26.120
<v Speaker 1>versatility to it, in variability where you're around the cadence

1:18:26.160 --> 1:18:28.360
<v Speaker 1>of that, Like you settle into a tournament and you're

1:18:28.400 --> 1:18:32.040
<v Speaker 1>like on most courses you know what's coming like and

1:18:32.120 --> 1:18:34.960
<v Speaker 1>your week goes is like, okay, like birdie, this is

1:18:35.000 --> 1:18:36.759
<v Speaker 1>the stretch, I go get it. This is the stretch

1:18:36.760 --> 1:18:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I gotta be careful of out there each day. The

1:18:40.360 --> 1:18:42.920
<v Speaker 1>cadence is a little different based off how they set

1:18:42.960 --> 1:18:46.000
<v Speaker 1>it up where certain holes are going to take from you.

1:18:47.160 --> 1:18:51.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just disrupting that flow a little bit. But have

1:18:51.080 --> 1:18:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you ever been at a bar where they do, like

1:18:52.960 --> 1:18:56.720
<v Speaker 1>a German bar, they do the mug hold where you

1:18:57.040 --> 1:18:59.559
<v Speaker 1>have to like hold the mug out, you hold the

1:18:59.600 --> 1:19:02.599
<v Speaker 1>mug out, and it's just basically like holding a weight

1:19:02.800 --> 1:19:06.840
<v Speaker 1>and keeping your shoulder extended. And you see people just quivering,

1:19:07.160 --> 1:19:09.680
<v Speaker 1>ye like, and they're shaking and you can see when

1:19:09.680 --> 1:19:10.200
<v Speaker 1>they're going.

1:19:10.640 --> 1:19:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:19:10.960 --> 1:19:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the way I think about Augusta Nashell,

1:19:13.560 --> 1:19:17.160
<v Speaker 1>particularly on the weekends. It is like everybody's just trying

1:19:17.200 --> 1:19:20.240
<v Speaker 1>to hang on, you know, and these guys are playing there.

1:19:20.400 --> 1:19:24.360
<v Speaker 1>We saw just such an extraordinary level of golf at times. Yeah,

1:19:24.400 --> 1:19:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and they're just trying to hang on, and inevitably the

1:19:28.200 --> 1:19:30.600
<v Speaker 1>golf course just cracks them.

1:19:30.600 --> 1:19:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Sure at some point, Yeah, some quicker than others, but

1:19:34.439 --> 1:19:38.280
<v Speaker 2>at some point. Yeah. The intensity of the week is uh,

1:19:38.760 --> 1:19:42.679
<v Speaker 2>it's quite something to deal with, you know. You and players,

1:19:43.520 --> 1:19:45.000
<v Speaker 2>you know a lot of a lot of people. You

1:19:45.040 --> 1:19:46.760
<v Speaker 2>want to get in there Saturday, you want to get

1:19:46.760 --> 1:19:50.360
<v Speaker 2>in there Sunday, coming early. Man, But it's it starts

1:19:50.400 --> 1:19:52.639
<v Speaker 2>to get to you. There's just so much going on,

1:19:52.880 --> 1:19:55.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, think about I was thinking the other and

1:19:55.479 --> 1:19:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I never realized this when I was playing, but it

1:19:59.760 --> 1:20:02.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of dawned on me this year. I was eating

1:20:02.720 --> 1:20:07.360
<v Speaker 2>lunch with my wife up on the balcony as the

1:20:07.479 --> 1:20:11.880
<v Speaker 2>leaders were coming out to the first tea, and I

1:20:11.920 --> 1:20:16.320
<v Speaker 2>said to wow, this is kind of like the Kentucky Derby,

1:20:16.640 --> 1:20:18.479
<v Speaker 2>or you know when you go to those big horse

1:20:18.560 --> 1:20:21.760
<v Speaker 2>races and the horses are like walking out as they're

1:20:21.760 --> 1:20:24.559
<v Speaker 2>showing them and then they go out onto the track.

1:20:25.280 --> 1:20:27.599
<v Speaker 2>It's what it's like. It's what it's like at Augusta

1:20:27.760 --> 1:20:30.439
<v Speaker 2>National because the players are coming from the practice area

1:20:31.360 --> 1:20:34.800
<v Speaker 2>and then they walk through, you know, under the in

1:20:34.840 --> 1:20:38.559
<v Speaker 2>the tunnel at the clubhouse, out under the big Tree,

1:20:39.080 --> 1:20:43.400
<v Speaker 2>and everybody's just there dressed up, you know, fancy hats

1:20:43.439 --> 1:20:47.759
<v Speaker 2>on jackets, and the players have to make their way through,

1:20:48.880 --> 1:20:51.679
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, wow, even even that moment right there,

1:20:51.720 --> 1:20:54.840
<v Speaker 2>like it's it's it's an intense environment.

1:20:56.160 --> 1:20:57.519
<v Speaker 1>It's so intense.

1:20:57.600 --> 1:21:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the excitement and the the noise, the buzz, it's

1:21:05.280 --> 1:21:06.720
<v Speaker 2>a love for a player to have to deal with

1:21:06.760 --> 1:21:07.439
<v Speaker 2>throughout the week.

1:21:08.000 --> 1:21:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I wrote this down in my notes. I don't know

1:21:09.840 --> 1:21:13.599
<v Speaker 1>if you caught this. Do you know what numbers Rory

1:21:13.760 --> 1:21:16.880
<v Speaker 1>and Bryson's caddies were wearing. So there was ninety six

1:21:16.920 --> 1:21:20.799
<v Speaker 1>players in the field last year. For listeners, your number

1:21:20.920 --> 1:21:23.559
<v Speaker 1>is a caddy number one goes to the defending champion.

1:21:23.760 --> 1:21:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Every number after that goes in order of arrival.

1:21:27.880 --> 1:21:29.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So Bryson was eighty nine?

1:21:29.800 --> 1:21:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Was he eighty nine?

1:21:31.600 --> 1:21:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1:21:31.960 --> 1:21:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Correct?

1:21:32.320 --> 1:21:33.760
<v Speaker 2>And Rory was eighty one? Was he?

1:21:34.280 --> 1:21:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I just like you saying, like the intensity of

1:21:37.600 --> 1:21:39.919
<v Speaker 1>the week and everybody wants to get in on Sunday

1:21:40.080 --> 1:21:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and do their work. Like I wonder if there's something

1:21:43.320 --> 1:21:45.519
<v Speaker 1>to you know, I think both of them arrived on

1:21:46.360 --> 1:21:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Monday night or Tuesday morning.

1:21:48.800 --> 1:21:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I Uh, if I was getting ready to play

1:21:55.640 --> 1:22:00.920
<v Speaker 2>in the mastas, I would make the trip two before.

1:22:02.520 --> 1:22:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I would spend you know, two to three days there,

1:22:05.200 --> 1:22:10.160
<v Speaker 2>just getting comfortable with all the strategy, hopefully get to

1:22:10.200 --> 1:22:14.400
<v Speaker 2>play the course in two different wind directions. Uh. And

1:22:14.439 --> 1:22:17.479
<v Speaker 2>then I would I would come in Monday night and

1:22:17.560 --> 1:22:22.280
<v Speaker 2>I would at some point Monday get some body work,

1:22:22.400 --> 1:22:25.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe have a workout, have a great meal, and then

1:22:26.439 --> 1:22:29.040
<v Speaker 2>nine Tuesday, nine Wednesday, let's go.

1:22:30.160 --> 1:22:33.360
<v Speaker 1>The jack used to didn't he show up a lot

1:22:33.360 --> 1:22:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of times on Wednesday?

1:22:35.160 --> 1:22:36.840
<v Speaker 2>So what he told me that he would do is

1:22:36.880 --> 1:22:41.240
<v Speaker 2>he would play the tournament the week before. So he

1:22:41.240 --> 1:22:46.920
<v Speaker 2>would always go and this is why he had an

1:22:46.960 --> 1:22:49.320
<v Speaker 2>issue with the Memorial being the week before the US

1:22:49.400 --> 1:22:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Open last year, because he was like, I would never

1:22:51.360 --> 1:22:53.920
<v Speaker 2>have played my own tournament then, because I always took

1:22:53.920 --> 1:22:57.280
<v Speaker 2>a week off before major. Uh, and we're going to

1:22:57.360 --> 1:23:00.400
<v Speaker 2>see that move for this year. So he would go

1:23:00.479 --> 1:23:04.120
<v Speaker 2>the week before and he would play four rounds, count

1:23:04.160 --> 1:23:08.759
<v Speaker 2>every shot, so he would play the tournament against himself,

1:23:08.800 --> 1:23:12.280
<v Speaker 2>against the court. That's what he was doing and everywhere

1:23:12.320 --> 1:23:16.920
<v Speaker 2>and every major championship. And the reason he did that

1:23:17.360 --> 1:23:20.599
<v Speaker 2>now at the Masters, this doesn't really come into play,

1:23:20.960 --> 1:23:24.559
<v Speaker 2>but he said, you're talking about the Open, the US Open,

1:23:24.600 --> 1:23:27.519
<v Speaker 2>the PGA Championship. The rough would always be longer the

1:23:27.600 --> 1:23:30.760
<v Speaker 2>week before because they're still going to be growing it

1:23:30.800 --> 1:23:33.680
<v Speaker 2>in and then probably given it that final cut the

1:23:33.720 --> 1:23:37.880
<v Speaker 2>weekend before, and the greenswoar was firm and fast, and

1:23:37.920 --> 1:23:41.280
<v Speaker 2>he felt like he rarely got to test himself and

1:23:41.479 --> 1:23:46.400
<v Speaker 2>understand the challenges that he was about to face, and

1:23:46.439 --> 1:23:49.360
<v Speaker 2>then he could figure out the strategy going into the

1:23:49.400 --> 1:23:55.120
<v Speaker 2>real tournament. It's quite clever, but professional golfers, you know,

1:23:55.280 --> 1:23:59.080
<v Speaker 2>it's it's evolved so much now it probably would be

1:23:59.120 --> 1:24:01.960
<v Speaker 2>hard for players to do that, but maybe you could

1:24:01.960 --> 1:24:04.760
<v Speaker 2>find a gap at some point to be able to

1:24:04.760 --> 1:24:07.559
<v Speaker 2>go there. With enough time, I think you can get

1:24:07.560 --> 1:24:10.680
<v Speaker 2>it done in two or three days and really get

1:24:10.760 --> 1:24:14.240
<v Speaker 2>your homework done to where you don't have to do

1:24:14.479 --> 1:24:19.360
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to There's so many stresses on the Monday, Tuesday,

1:24:19.400 --> 1:24:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Wednesday of a major championship and then the tournament, you

1:24:25.120 --> 1:24:29.320
<v Speaker 2>just don't want to add anything to that during those

1:24:29.360 --> 1:24:32.360
<v Speaker 2>final moments you want to be trying to It's like

1:24:32.720 --> 1:24:37.639
<v Speaker 2>one of my close friends as won three medals swimming

1:24:37.720 --> 1:24:42.000
<v Speaker 2>in the Olympics, name is Roland Schummer, South African swimmer,

1:24:43.120 --> 1:24:46.880
<v Speaker 2>and in their sport, they talk about tapering to where

1:24:47.800 --> 1:24:50.960
<v Speaker 2>they do all this crazy training, but then actually coming

1:24:51.040 --> 1:24:55.479
<v Speaker 2>up to the races they taper that down to be

1:24:55.560 --> 1:24:59.960
<v Speaker 2>able to have the appropriate recovery and mass and stamf

1:25:00.400 --> 1:25:02.800
<v Speaker 2>and all that kind of stuff. It's almost like you

1:25:02.880 --> 1:25:05.759
<v Speaker 2>need a little bit of that coming into mages.

1:25:06.960 --> 1:25:09.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think that's I mean, that's the thing you

1:25:09.479 --> 1:25:11.920
<v Speaker 1>have to It's almost like you have to treat yourself

1:25:12.080 --> 1:25:16.559
<v Speaker 1>well before a major, yeah, because you if you come

1:25:16.600 --> 1:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>in with stress, like it's so much of is in

1:25:20.360 --> 1:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>particular Augusta Nashal, I feel like it's the most stressful

1:25:25.360 --> 1:25:30.799
<v Speaker 1>place to play a tournament because you have the knowing

1:25:30.840 --> 1:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>that you can score. But but then if you don't

1:25:35.320 --> 1:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>hit the shots, everything becomes extraordinarily hard. It's just and

1:25:40.040 --> 1:25:43.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like you just so rarely see people leave stuff dead,

1:25:44.320 --> 1:25:49.519
<v Speaker 1>like you leave putts dead. Hind you never it's it's

1:25:49.560 --> 1:25:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole, it's the course that you might have to

1:25:51.640 --> 1:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>hold the most three to four footers.

1:25:53.360 --> 1:25:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you can hit a nine out of

1:25:55.840 --> 1:26:01.320
<v Speaker 2>ten putt from twenty feet and you got to get

1:26:01.360 --> 1:26:04.360
<v Speaker 2>the coin out of the pocket and you got three

1:26:04.360 --> 1:26:07.400
<v Speaker 2>feet coming back, and you're like, I mean, I've just

1:26:07.479 --> 1:26:09.920
<v Speaker 2>hit this pot. Okay, it didn't go in, but I've

1:26:09.960 --> 1:26:14.000
<v Speaker 2>hit this pott as good as what I possibly could,

1:26:14.400 --> 1:26:17.960
<v Speaker 2>and I'm still got to fight to get out of

1:26:17.960 --> 1:26:22.719
<v Speaker 2>here with the pie and that stuff. Yeah, it piles up,

1:26:23.240 --> 1:26:26.479
<v Speaker 2>and by the end of the week you are I

1:26:26.479 --> 1:26:29.240
<v Speaker 2>wonder if Rory's even working up yet, any of these guys,

1:26:29.439 --> 1:26:33.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Rory Rose read how about Reid holding out

1:26:33.560 --> 1:26:35.640
<v Speaker 2>one bouncer on seventeen.

1:26:35.720 --> 1:26:40.640
<v Speaker 1>You weren't there. This was amazing. I was. I was

1:26:40.640 --> 1:26:44.759
<v Speaker 1>standing there at that point. Nobody cheered, nobody saw.

1:26:44.600 --> 1:26:47.280
<v Speaker 2>It because it just disappeared so fast.

1:26:47.680 --> 1:26:50.080
<v Speaker 1>No, because they were the scoreboard was changing.

1:26:50.560 --> 1:26:53.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I gotcha and we and we were, we were.

1:26:54.920 --> 1:26:57.479
<v Speaker 2>We showed it and he didn't. He had no clue.

1:26:57.479 --> 1:26:59.320
<v Speaker 2>He actually said to his caddy, where is that.

1:27:00.080 --> 1:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>He had a little blockie. It was a little blockie.

1:27:02.840 --> 1:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Did he go in one.

1:27:04.160 --> 1:27:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Bounce all of a sudden? If he hauls it out

1:27:06.120 --> 1:27:09.200
<v Speaker 2>on eighteen, he would have gotten into the playoffs.

1:27:09.880 --> 1:27:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Can we talk about his three foot three putt from

1:27:12.120 --> 1:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>three feet on thirteen?

1:27:13.520 --> 1:27:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is unusual for him. I mean, he's such

1:27:17.120 --> 1:27:20.879
<v Speaker 2>a great short gamer putter. He said he had struggled

1:27:20.880 --> 1:27:22.519
<v Speaker 2>with his putting in the first couple of days, but

1:27:22.560 --> 1:27:27.840
<v Speaker 2>then started to figure it out on the weekend. But yeah, great,

1:27:27.880 --> 1:27:31.679
<v Speaker 2>finish third on his own, and then Scheffler does nothing

1:27:31.760 --> 1:27:34.679
<v Speaker 2>the whole week, finishes fourth, does nothing the whole week,

1:27:35.520 --> 1:27:37.640
<v Speaker 2>and it's still got a chance with nine holes to

1:27:37.640 --> 1:27:41.639
<v Speaker 2>play somehow. After Rory's hiccup, I.

1:27:41.600 --> 1:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Got a couple of rapid fire questions before we go.

1:27:44.560 --> 1:27:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah on here, I'm kind of shooting from the hip here.

1:27:47.640 --> 1:27:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Don't worry, I've been doing that the whole time.

1:27:50.880 --> 1:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Shot You'll remember the most Oh, I.

1:27:54.640 --> 1:27:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Don't have one I don't have one.

1:27:56.720 --> 1:27:58.799
<v Speaker 1>Because that's why it's a hard question.

1:27:58.880 --> 1:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Microroy's two shots into fifteen on the weekend were

1:28:05.400 --> 1:28:08.760
<v Speaker 2>and I mentioned this on the broadcast. They reminded me

1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:12.080
<v Speaker 2>of Jack and Tiger. You know, you see all those

1:28:12.120 --> 1:28:16.599
<v Speaker 2>great clips Tiger wearing black pants or red shirt Jack

1:28:17.200 --> 1:28:19.559
<v Speaker 2>various different times. But the one that jumps out to

1:28:19.600 --> 1:28:23.120
<v Speaker 2>me is two that jump out to me. He's nineteen

1:28:23.200 --> 1:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>seventy eight, excuse me, nineteen seventy five. He's got the

1:28:28.000 --> 1:28:31.439
<v Speaker 2>white pants, the green and white striped shirt. In eighty

1:28:31.479 --> 1:28:33.559
<v Speaker 2>six he's got the yellow shirt and he's got like

1:28:33.680 --> 1:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>plaid gray pants. Kind of a deal. And they make

1:28:39.280 --> 1:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>these swings with long irons from the top of the

1:28:41.479 --> 1:28:47.640
<v Speaker 2>hill and immediately start charging after the ball. It's like.

1:28:49.360 --> 1:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Said earlier, they know it's perfect.

1:28:52.200 --> 1:28:54.839
<v Speaker 2>You know what was mind boggling to me about Bryson

1:28:54.880 --> 1:28:57.479
<v Speaker 2>because he's staring these shots down and then they they're

1:28:57.520 --> 1:29:02.080
<v Speaker 2>nowhere near, but immediately, even though it's ten yards down

1:29:02.120 --> 1:29:05.840
<v Speaker 2>the hill, the wind swirling, when they make contact with

1:29:05.960 --> 1:29:09.200
<v Speaker 2>the ball, they're like, this is it. This is it?

1:29:09.280 --> 1:29:12.559
<v Speaker 2>The club toils from Tiger. You know Jack, he's always

1:29:12.640 --> 1:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>like he's got that shoulder move that he always used

1:29:14.800 --> 1:29:18.559
<v Speaker 2>to make, and Rory did that with the sixth iron

1:29:18.960 --> 1:29:22.280
<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, and then the seven nine on Sunday does

1:29:22.360 --> 1:29:25.040
<v Speaker 2>jump out to me. NANCE called it the shot of

1:29:25.080 --> 1:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>a lifetime, which was amazing. But I gotta say the

1:29:31.720 --> 1:29:36.360
<v Speaker 2>wedgend of thirteen on Sunday, I have to remember it.

1:29:35.840 --> 1:29:42.200
<v Speaker 2>It will go down as one of the poorest shots

1:29:42.240 --> 1:29:44.599
<v Speaker 2>that McElroy will hit in his curreer.

1:29:45.280 --> 1:29:51.479
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of eerily similar to the speef chunk from

1:29:51.479 --> 1:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>the drop area. Yeah, yeah, right, Like if it had

1:29:56.280 --> 1:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>gone the other way, it would have it would have

1:29:58.280 --> 1:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>been that.

1:29:59.320 --> 1:30:02.320
<v Speaker 2>I kept thinking to myself throughout the whole and I

1:30:02.479 --> 1:30:04.040
<v Speaker 2>know you said it's supposed to be a rapid fire,

1:30:04.120 --> 1:30:07.559
<v Speaker 2>but I kept thinking to myself the whole way through

1:30:07.600 --> 1:30:15.160
<v Speaker 2>that Sunday, the the moment that McElroy is dealing with,

1:30:15.520 --> 1:30:20.000
<v Speaker 2>like the magnitude of this situation, the outcomes are so

1:30:20.280 --> 1:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>polar opposite. He's either gonna win be remembered for the

1:30:25.960 --> 1:30:30.800
<v Speaker 2>rest of time or he's going to lose and it's

1:30:30.840 --> 1:30:35.599
<v Speaker 2>gonna be the worst day of his life. Yeah, Like,

1:30:35.640 --> 1:30:38.760
<v Speaker 2>there there's no in between. Like we talk about these

1:30:38.800 --> 1:30:42.960
<v Speaker 2>other guys justin forty four years old, another great opportunity,

1:30:43.360 --> 1:30:48.639
<v Speaker 2>cementing Hall of Fame status read great third place, Scottie Okay, solid,

1:30:48.760 --> 1:30:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Xander eighth Oberg getting it going. There's there's like a

1:30:52.360 --> 1:30:55.600
<v Speaker 2>middle ground for every other player, but for Macroy, it

1:30:55.680 --> 1:30:59.120
<v Speaker 2>was either going to be one of the six greatest

1:30:59.200 --> 1:31:02.759
<v Speaker 2>names that will be remembered forever. Oh, this is going

1:31:02.880 --> 1:31:05.600
<v Speaker 2>to be the worst day of your life. There was

1:31:06.160 --> 1:31:09.160
<v Speaker 2>zero action in the middle at all.

1:31:09.640 --> 1:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's why you just saw it on

1:31:13.400 --> 1:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>his face and he saw I think that's why you

1:31:16.240 --> 1:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>saw just the wide range of outcomes we saw throughout

1:31:20.320 --> 1:31:25.559
<v Speaker 1>his round. Yeah, was just that that enormity of the situation. Yeah,

1:31:25.560 --> 1:31:29.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, but so they can't even imagine how it felt.

1:31:29.920 --> 1:31:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's so many shots though. You think of the

1:31:33.600 --> 1:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>t shots at one and two that he hit in

1:31:35.920 --> 1:31:38.360
<v Speaker 2>the third round. You think about some of the up

1:31:38.400 --> 1:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>and downs that Bryson made. Bryson shot sixty nine on

1:31:42.760 --> 1:31:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Saturday and he hit nine greens.

1:31:46.600 --> 1:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>All time scoring round. I think I said this on

1:31:49.400 --> 1:31:53.679
<v Speaker 1>the shotgun start, But like Bryson gets called all these things,

1:31:54.520 --> 1:31:57.559
<v Speaker 1>and at the end of the day, like I think,

1:31:57.600 --> 1:32:00.519
<v Speaker 1>what his superpower is is he just knows to score

1:32:00.560 --> 1:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>of the golf ball. Like he just he's one of

1:32:03.400 --> 1:32:06.519
<v Speaker 1>those players that like just gets the ball in the

1:32:06.560 --> 1:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>hole really quickly.

1:32:08.000 --> 1:32:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's tough man. He doesn't quit. He's tough.

1:32:10.200 --> 1:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>And with that guy, yeah, I would hate to play

1:32:15.280 --> 1:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd hate to play him like in a mat like

1:32:18.240 --> 1:32:20.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, like he's just never out of it. He's

1:32:20.680 --> 1:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>got some super superhuman talents, right, But at the end

1:32:25.400 --> 1:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>of the day, the guy like he makes big putt,

1:32:28.040 --> 1:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>he has a knack to make putts when he needs

1:32:30.120 --> 1:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to make putts, and he has a knack to hit

1:32:32.720 --> 1:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>shots when he has to hit shots. And it didn't

1:32:34.360 --> 1:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>work out on Sunday. But like the situation, situation or

1:32:40.680 --> 1:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>swing that you'll remember the most, Like swing in in

1:32:45.960 --> 1:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>in the tournament.

1:32:48.080 --> 1:32:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh swing in the tournament.

1:32:49.760 --> 1:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like like like moment is so situation or like

1:32:53.600 --> 1:32:54.799
<v Speaker 1>moment grand moment.

1:32:55.160 --> 1:33:00.040
<v Speaker 2>It has thirteen. You know we thought, I think the

1:33:00.120 --> 1:33:06.520
<v Speaker 2>whole world when he hit it on the green on twelve. Everybody,

1:33:07.120 --> 1:33:09.000
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to be a great golfer to no

1:33:09.160 --> 1:33:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Augusta National, just if you love golf. We've all watched

1:33:12.680 --> 1:33:16.520
<v Speaker 2>it so much. We know where the pitfalls are. And

1:33:16.720 --> 1:33:19.600
<v Speaker 2>on eleven, when he was standing on the tee and

1:33:19.640 --> 1:33:21.600
<v Speaker 2>they were waiting. They waited quite a lot. On the

1:33:21.600 --> 1:33:25.639
<v Speaker 2>second nine, I kind of foreshadowed. I was like, Okay,

1:33:25.720 --> 1:33:28.800
<v Speaker 2>he's now birdied nine and ten. He's got this big lead.

1:33:29.280 --> 1:33:32.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, let's start to think about the places that

1:33:32.200 --> 1:33:34.800
<v Speaker 2>it can come undone. Okay, we've got what's the water holes.

1:33:34.840 --> 1:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>It's eleven, it's twelve, it's thirteen, it's fifteen, And then

1:33:39.720 --> 1:33:42.120
<v Speaker 2>I said sixteen. He doesn't have to worry about too

1:33:42.240 --> 1:33:45.120
<v Speaker 2>much because with the whole back right, we'd have to

1:33:45.120 --> 1:33:46.920
<v Speaker 2>be a pretty rank shot to get to the water.

1:33:48.760 --> 1:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>And so I sort of foreshadowed that. And when he

1:33:51.760 --> 1:33:55.479
<v Speaker 2>hit it on the green on twelve, everybody on the

1:33:55.520 --> 1:33:59.800
<v Speaker 2>planet must have been that's it. That's over. Now he's

1:33:59.800 --> 1:34:02.920
<v Speaker 2>got tupop. Yes, it's normally where he feasts. He's made

1:34:02.960 --> 1:34:07.360
<v Speaker 2>all these eagles and birdies throughout the week. And then

1:34:07.360 --> 1:34:09.200
<v Speaker 2>he keeps it out of the water on his first

1:34:09.280 --> 1:34:13.920
<v Speaker 2>and he's second on thirteen, and then it all just

1:34:14.000 --> 1:34:19.000
<v Speaker 2>went completely sideways. I mean, that's what I remember, big swing.

1:34:19.520 --> 1:34:21.679
<v Speaker 1>I said this on the shotgun start, but I felt

1:34:21.720 --> 1:34:25.240
<v Speaker 1>like it was it's so easy to play Monday morning quarterback.

1:34:25.320 --> 1:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>But I thought it was a mistake to take the

1:34:27.600 --> 1:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>foot off the gas on thirteen because I thought it

1:34:31.160 --> 1:34:35.519
<v Speaker 1>it changed the mindset of how he was playing golf.

1:34:35.800 --> 1:34:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, he plays better when he's being aggressive, but

1:34:41.400 --> 1:34:44.760
<v Speaker 2>we need to be careful how we frame aggressive. Aggressive

1:34:44.800 --> 1:34:53.400
<v Speaker 2>does not mean stupid. Yeah, aggressive means a confident, committed swing.

1:34:54.560 --> 1:34:57.599
<v Speaker 1>With conservative targets. That's the best way to play last.

1:34:57.720 --> 1:35:01.559
<v Speaker 2>And so I have zero problem the strategy on thirteen.

1:35:02.000 --> 1:35:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Zero problem. I don't mind him, you know, turning it

1:35:07.320 --> 1:35:10.960
<v Speaker 2>into a three shotter. But to hit that sort of

1:35:10.960 --> 1:35:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a shot from eighty something yards is it brought It

1:35:17.960 --> 1:35:22.160
<v Speaker 2>brought four or five guys back into it. And the

1:35:22.200 --> 1:35:24.759
<v Speaker 2>fact that we haven't even paid reference to the three

1:35:24.920 --> 1:35:29.040
<v Speaker 2>two shot swings in the first four holes shows how

1:35:29.120 --> 1:35:30.720
<v Speaker 2>dramatic that thirteenth toll was.

1:35:31.520 --> 1:35:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this round will be talked about forever because

1:35:35.880 --> 1:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>there's so many micro moments, like little advantages that happened

1:35:39.840 --> 1:35:43.840
<v Speaker 1>early in the Bryson Rory showdown segment of it where

1:35:44.040 --> 1:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Rory got Rory made putts first that put the pressure

1:35:47.920 --> 1:35:50.879
<v Speaker 1>on Scottie. I thought that were like huge, huge moments,

1:35:51.040 --> 1:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, whether it was three or nine, you know,

1:35:53.280 --> 1:35:55.720
<v Speaker 1>him getting the putt first in both those like to

1:35:55.800 --> 1:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>me that that nine was kind of a knockout punch

1:35:59.080 --> 1:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>for Bryce. That was where he he was like, Okay,

1:36:02.920 --> 1:36:05.599
<v Speaker 1>I can't, I can't, I can't beat this guy. Maybe

1:36:05.600 --> 1:36:08.840
<v Speaker 1>today when he got to putt and it looked like

1:36:09.360 --> 1:36:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Bryson was pacing it out like he thought he might

1:36:12.280 --> 1:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>have been trying he was trying to hit his putt first.

1:36:15.280 --> 1:36:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were, they were watch it. They were within

1:36:18.280 --> 1:36:22.080
<v Speaker 2>inches of each other distance wise, But that that was

1:36:23.880 --> 1:36:25.760
<v Speaker 2>it was a big moment right there. And then for

1:36:25.880 --> 1:36:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Roy to birdie ten. I'm just looking at his scorecard here.

1:36:29.240 --> 1:36:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the guy made six birdies and shut one over. Yeah,

1:36:35.080 --> 1:36:36.280
<v Speaker 2>he doubles in one round.

1:36:36.920 --> 1:36:39.519
<v Speaker 1>It was it was the full experience, the full Augustin

1:36:39.640 --> 1:36:44.280
<v Speaker 1>National Rory experience through the years. All right, real rapid

1:36:44.320 --> 1:36:46.080
<v Speaker 1>fire and then we'll we're gonna get you out of

1:36:46.080 --> 1:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>here because I know you got your you got harbortown

1:36:49.040 --> 1:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>responsibilities here over under six point five majors for Rory McElroy.

1:36:57.320 --> 1:36:59.000
<v Speaker 2>They're not that easy to win, by the way.

1:36:59.080 --> 1:37:03.479
<v Speaker 1>No, we're seeing he does got off and eleven year

1:37:03.560 --> 1:37:04.280
<v Speaker 1>side here.

1:37:05.720 --> 1:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>That means he's gonna win two. More so I'm gonna

1:37:08.080 --> 1:37:15.120
<v Speaker 2>go yes, all right, I listen, go onto my X profile.

1:37:15.360 --> 1:37:18.639
<v Speaker 2>Earlier in the season, before everyone started playing, I said

1:37:18.640 --> 1:37:22.559
<v Speaker 2>what I thought was going to happen, shadowed Henley winning

1:37:22.720 --> 1:37:25.800
<v Speaker 2>the E one Arnold Palmer, I four shut at McNeely.

1:37:25.960 --> 1:37:32.280
<v Speaker 2>He's now playing really well and he's going to make

1:37:32.479 --> 1:37:35.600
<v Speaker 2>third championship. I said McElroy was going to win a

1:37:35.640 --> 1:37:42.120
<v Speaker 2>major championship. That's happened. I've said on TV. The venues

1:37:42.200 --> 1:37:46.760
<v Speaker 2>this year for him are like totally in his wheelhouse.

1:37:48.120 --> 1:37:53.240
<v Speaker 2>We're going to next he owns Quail Hollow, owns Quail Hollow.

1:37:53.640 --> 1:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be the favorite coming in there. Oakmont. You

1:37:58.080 --> 1:38:02.280
<v Speaker 2>gotta hit one ball like a missen so that suits him.

1:38:02.720 --> 1:38:05.840
<v Speaker 2>We know he's turned into a good putter. And then

1:38:06.360 --> 1:38:09.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's going home. He's going home for the

1:38:09.240 --> 1:38:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Open with the green jacket. He's going to be celebrated

1:38:13.840 --> 1:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>and received there like maybe nothing we've ever seen before.

1:38:19.439 --> 1:38:24.920
<v Speaker 2>And that's just this year, never mind the next. He

1:38:25.000 --> 1:38:29.280
<v Speaker 2>seems to be fit, he seems to not get many injuries.

1:38:29.360 --> 1:38:33.639
<v Speaker 2>What is he thirty five years old? Now, you've got

1:38:33.640 --> 1:38:35.479
<v Speaker 2>to think he's got at least another five years And

1:38:35.520 --> 1:38:37.400
<v Speaker 2>in the way he's looked after his body and been

1:38:37.439 --> 1:38:41.880
<v Speaker 2>so disciplined with his health. I'm giving him two more.

1:38:42.040 --> 1:38:44.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm giving him two more, and I tell you why

1:38:44.160 --> 1:38:49.800
<v Speaker 2>that will be special. He said last year that he

1:38:49.840 --> 1:38:54.400
<v Speaker 2>has three goals left in his career, winning the Masters,

1:38:55.240 --> 1:38:59.560
<v Speaker 2>winning an Olympic medal and winning an away Ryder Cup.

1:39:01.280 --> 1:39:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I would add one more for him. He scratched one

1:39:05.760 --> 1:39:08.240
<v Speaker 2>of them off this last weekend with winning the Masters.

1:39:09.280 --> 1:39:12.320
<v Speaker 2>If he gets to seven Majors, he is, without a

1:39:12.439 --> 1:39:15.840
<v Speaker 2>shadow of a doubt, the greatest European player ever to live.

1:39:16.600 --> 1:39:20.200
<v Speaker 2>He's got to get pass Faldo at six, but if

1:39:20.240 --> 1:39:26.840
<v Speaker 2>he gets to seven, to me, it's unquestionable.

1:39:28.360 --> 1:39:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing rapid fire.

1:39:32.600 --> 1:39:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't do rapid fire. Hey listen, let me just

1:39:35.160 --> 1:39:39.800
<v Speaker 2>tell you something. In my job, I'm rapid fire.

1:39:40.080 --> 1:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know I have.

1:39:42.280 --> 1:39:45.679
<v Speaker 2>Two seconds to say something, three seconds to say something.

1:39:46.280 --> 1:39:48.400
<v Speaker 2>When I come on one of these, you get the

1:39:48.439 --> 1:39:53.040
<v Speaker 2>full experience of how I have all these thoughts in

1:39:53.080 --> 1:39:55.639
<v Speaker 2>my mind and I have to like edit it down

1:39:55.800 --> 1:39:59.800
<v Speaker 2>to five words on TV. So now you're getting the

1:39:59.840 --> 1:40:02.080
<v Speaker 2>whole apologize to the listeners.

1:40:02.720 --> 1:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody's anybody's upset. If anything, people are

1:40:06.000 --> 1:40:08.559
<v Speaker 1>upset with me. All right over under three point five

1:40:08.640 --> 1:40:09.639
<v Speaker 1>majors for Bryson.

1:40:11.680 --> 1:40:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm going over on that as well. He's their one,

1:40:15.720 --> 1:40:20.679
<v Speaker 2>super strong and yeah, he's gonna figure the Irons out.

1:40:21.120 --> 1:40:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I think i'd be and that I'd agree with both

1:40:23.240 --> 1:40:26.280
<v Speaker 1>of these. So far over under three point five green

1:40:26.360 --> 1:40:27.519
<v Speaker 1>jackets for Scottie.

1:40:29.640 --> 1:40:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm gonna take the under on that one to

1:40:34.520 --> 1:40:38.360
<v Speaker 2>change it up. He'll win another one. He'll win another one.

1:40:38.840 --> 1:40:41.759
<v Speaker 1>It's mind boggling how he did nothing and finished fourth.

1:40:41.880 --> 1:40:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he'll win another one. He's uh yeah, him and

1:40:49.000 --> 1:40:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Rory on one A and one B right now.

1:40:52.479 --> 1:40:56.799
<v Speaker 1>All right over under zero point five green jackets for Ludwig.

1:40:58.479 --> 1:40:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll take the over on that one.

1:41:00.360 --> 1:41:02.040
<v Speaker 1>He seems perfect.

1:41:02.240 --> 1:41:07.880
<v Speaker 2>His game fits anywhere, anywhere, everywhere, demeanor ten out of ten,

1:41:09.240 --> 1:41:11.679
<v Speaker 2>seems to frame things up the right way. I actually

1:41:11.720 --> 1:41:14.320
<v Speaker 2>said on the broadcast that he's like a mixture between

1:41:14.360 --> 1:41:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Adam Scott and Roger Federer. Yeah, he's got like that classy, tall, look,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful swing like Scottie, supremely talented. So yeah, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>over on that. He's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried. I'm already worried. About what we've seen with

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<v Speaker 1>scar tissue. Now with Ludwig, just two close, two kind

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<v Speaker 1>of close calls. It's not good when you start racking

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<v Speaker 1>up the close.

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<v Speaker 2>Calls there, Okay, I feel differently.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't. I'm not saying I'm gonna go under.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just this is. This is a brief area of

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<v Speaker 1>concern for me.

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<v Speaker 2>His first two Masters starts, he's gone second and seventh.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventh with an asterisk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, take the lead with two holes to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Trevor, thank you so much. Kill her

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<v Speaker 1>job this weekend with coverage and look forward to hearing

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<v Speaker 1>you the next couple of weeks the next major. Well

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<v Speaker 1>have you so can't wait. Thanks for having on.

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<v Speaker 2>Right back at you, guys. Appreciate all the social media stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole team out there, the newsletters. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>would once I got done with all my work, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be back the house at midnight, you know, early mornings,

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<v Speaker 2>reading all the stuff, making sure I was up to

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<v Speaker 2>date with everything that was going on out on the grounds.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well done to you guys. We all need

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days off and then we get back

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<v Speaker 2>on the horse. It's great to be I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen my daughter yet, so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>run in and see her for ten days. She's apparently

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<v Speaker 1>apparently requesting my presence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, same thing. Mine is actually on spring break this

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<v Speaker 2>week and arrive here at Hilton and off an hour,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, thank you for listening to another edition of

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<v Speaker 1>the Friday Golf Podcast. That was fun. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we're gonna be done talking about that major

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Big thanks to Trevor again for

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<v Speaker 1>joining and we'll be back next week. One of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Rory Winning, was really happy about that. But other big

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<v Speaker 1>win of the week was our great photographer videographer Cameron

1:43:41.680 --> 1:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Hurdis who logs tons of hours when he goes to

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<v Speaker 1>Gusta National photographs from basically sun up to sundown all

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<v Speaker 1>day every day. Also is you know, a huge part

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<v Speaker 1>of all of our videos on YouTube. He won the

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<v Speaker 1>Media Lottery. Cameron is a architecture nut. He's actually won

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<v Speaker 1>the Leedo Competition, the Golf digestin Mackenzie Society, Lido competition

1:44:08.479 --> 1:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>where you design a hole three times. His band from

1:44:11.920 --> 1:44:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the competition, so he's so into golf. Architecture, and he

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<v Speaker 1>is a good player, and he has spent more time

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<v Speaker 1>roaming around those grounds the last three years than really

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<v Speaker 1>or last two years, than me or Brendan, really any

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<v Speaker 1>media member I know of. He's basically out there every hour,

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<v Speaker 1>every minute he can be during the tournament. He got

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<v Speaker 1>to play Augusta on Monday. So next week I think

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to have him for about thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>or so talking about his takeaways from playing and another

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<v Speaker 1>segment on the show. So we're not done with Augusta content.

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<v Speaker 1>A little slow burn here as we kind of come

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<v Speaker 1>off this incredible high from that tournament. I mean, so

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<v Speaker 1>many different angles of it. I think I could talk

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<v Speaker 1>with Trevor for two more hours about it. So big

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to PJ Clark, who was on the ground. He

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<v Speaker 1>was not he was. He was kind of in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of the in and out of the grounds at

1:45:14.439 --> 1:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Augusta when we could find scrounge up a ticket, but

1:45:17.800 --> 1:45:22.320
<v Speaker 1>he was manning down the house and and producing all

1:45:22.360 --> 1:45:26.040
<v Speaker 1>of our shotgun start pods. And big thanks for him

1:45:26.080 --> 1:45:29.200
<v Speaker 1>for hopping on and producing this one at a moment's notice.

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<v Speaker 1>So PJ gets some rest, and thank you all for

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<v Speaker 1>the support. It's a it's a dream come true to

1:45:37.680 --> 1:45:41.280
<v Speaker 1>get to go cover golf tournaments like the Masters, and

1:45:41.320 --> 1:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>none of this would ever happen if if you guys

1:45:44.160 --> 1:45:49.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't listen, and it's uh yeah weeks. Weeks like last

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<v Speaker 1>week are the ones that make me want to make

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<v Speaker 1>me pinch myself and and really eternally grateful forgetting to

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<v Speaker 1>do what I get to do. And thank you guys

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<v Speaker 1>for all the support through the years, and that's made

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<v Speaker 1>it possible for us to UH to get out there

1:46:06.280 --> 1:46:08.720
<v Speaker 1>and cover these events the way we do. And we

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<v Speaker 1>hope these are the best years of covering majors and

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<v Speaker 1>our coverage just continues to get better, I hope in

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<v Speaker 1>the coming year. So big thank you to everybody for

1:46:20.080 --> 1:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>supporting the podcast, supporting the UH, the company that we've built.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back next week and I hope you guys

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<v Speaker 1>all have a great rest of your week.

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<v Speaker 2>M h mh