1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Episode one fifty. Sponsors are Warby Parker 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: and Dollar Shave Club. And this was all about crossover 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: songs artists that either crossed over to country or a 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: country artist that crossed over to pop. And we're also 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: going to talk to a J. McClain who is of 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: the Backstreet Boys and is also trying to put out 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: country music and instring to kind of hear their thoughts 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: and and listen. Nobody wants. No one in the country 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: music world like traditional country music world wants anything to 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: cross over if they're like super traditional. I think artists 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: kind of get crap when they do that. I I 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: enjoy it because I mean it's so good inside of 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: our format that everybody else gets to experience it. Because 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: right now, you know, Dan and Shay are are doing 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: that with tequila, and I guess that's the first really 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: big crossover possibility in the last four or five years. 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, body like a back Road tried, and but 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that it got as big as Tequila 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: from Dan and Shay. Maybe I still see cutting up 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: the floor road. It seems funny because Danny, they're already 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: on speechless right now, and Speachless when number one, it's 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Keela Still, you know, kind of jumping up pop chart. 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: That's just so right now, Speechless is at number twenty 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: four on the pop chart and it's trying so and recently, 25 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Marin crossed over Mary Morris, but that wasn't 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: so much her song that she as an artist did 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: because she was on this Z and it else. I 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: just know Z somebody else is on the song body 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: that come back to what to number six on the 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: pop chart. It was that high. Yeah, I was completely 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: wrong about that. I guess I didn't hear it that 32 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: much on the pop chart. I heard it a lot. 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: I was wrong on that. Lady and Abellum Need You 34 00:01:49,080 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Now went to number two on the pop chart. Rascal 35 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Flats had a top ten song on the pop chart 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: with What Hurts the Most, And I think in you know, 37 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: the Last Generation, the biggest obvious crossover as Taylor Swift. Well, 38 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: I can just play one of her songs here, but 39 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: she just crossed over herself like she humanly crossed over 40 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: the way did country and was like, you know what, 41 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do pop. Everybody's like all right, we 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: get it. And I was doing pop radio for a 43 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: lot of these songs, Lady and a Bellum Rascale, Flats, 44 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, those three. I was doing pop radio and 45 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: it was like, oh cool, check it out. Some country 46 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: steps crossed over. But I'm a big fan of crossing 47 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: over because I mean, you know what, Darius crossed over 48 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: pop to country in staid a country to pop, like 49 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: Darius is an artist that he went from hoodie to 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: being Darius the country singer. And a lot of people 51 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: will go uh to sellouts, No way, man, They're just 52 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: selling out bigger rooms and it has to be super 53 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: awesome in our area to go over to to another one. 54 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: Let me talk about Warby Parker for a second, because 55 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: I do love Warry Parker. A lot of my glasses 56 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: are Warby Parker and basically what Warby Parker is. 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Who is trying his own, you know, 85 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: pop two country crossover. Do I think it's gonna work? 86 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: It normally doesn't work for anyone. It's rare that it does, 87 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: so just playing the odds, I don't. But again, I've 88 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: seen stranger things happen, and I like, the guy's a 89 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: nice guy. But we'll talk to him and find out 90 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: what's going on. It's called night visions. J McClain sleeping 91 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: it out, all right? Did they cross over Darius Rucker? 92 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: It was in Hooty And that's kind of the weird 93 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: crossover because rarely do they go pop two country and 94 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: make it, you know, especially talking about J McLain. But 95 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: he did, He crossed over and had a bunch of hits. 96 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: Mike's on if I'm not saying anything. Darius rutger By, 97 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: who is one of the biggest selling bands of all time. 98 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Like that record Cracked Review was one of the biggest 99 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: selling records of all time, and I think most people 100 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: thought that Darius would be a flash in the pant 101 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: or would have because again, if somebody goes from pop 102 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: to country, the traditional country, people go, wait, why are 103 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: they doing this? Why are they trying to come country 104 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: because they can't make it him pop. But that really 105 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: wasn't the case with Darius. As you know now, Darius 106 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: is a South Carolina dude that loves country music, loves 107 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: classic country music, and also nobody calls him hoodie anymore, 108 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: which he's gotta love. I think I might just call 109 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: him honey. I didn't know him as Darius, So Darius 110 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: actually did cross over. Steven Tyler was an interesting one 111 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: that that tried to cross over because he is like 112 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: American rock Royals, Aerosmith, Massive, and whenever Steven Tyler was 113 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: crossed over, I was excited because I just wanted to 114 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: meet him. It's freaking Arrowsmith and Arrowsmith's rock band, and 115 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Steven Tyler was like showing up 116 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: in Nashville and making surprise appearances that other artists shows, 117 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: and then he started showing up at bars playing shows, 118 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: and then he launched his country career. Love is Your Name? 119 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: So this is called right. It kind of sounds like 120 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: Mumford and Sons and Aerosmith mixed together. I do not 121 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: think that was a successful cross over. And I had 122 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: him on the show and I was rooting formed the 123 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: crossover because I wanted to be his friend just selfishly. 124 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to live here and making country music and 125 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: I was gonna be Steven Tyler's friend. And a lot 126 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: of my friends are writing with them. Like Eric Pass 127 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: I was writing with him. He was like, he's the 128 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: nicest guy. But did not work. He did not It 129 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: wasn't a successiful crossover. Crazy to write with him. A 130 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: lot of people, did, you know, trying to write with 131 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: anyone who would write. Cindy Lauper tried to cross over 132 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: and I would get emails going, hey, we have Cyndi 133 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: Lauper on your show, and I never did. And this 134 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: was this is our song right called Funnel of Love. 135 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: There was a country attempt run and it's not even bad, 136 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: and it's kind of awkward and kind of your weird sounding. 137 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: But I think if it were someone who was coming 138 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: starting in their career and something like this as as 139 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: that kind of an American Americana, um, I think it 140 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: would work in that realm, like like a Margot Price. 141 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: She has that really distinct super country because we know 142 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: it's Cinndy Laper, we picture Syndey Lapper. I think if 143 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: you just go, hey, this is you know, Missy Johnson, 144 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: and she's from Kentucky and she kind of has this weird, 145 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: this country vibe, and I think you'd probably go, oh, 146 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: maybe that's not for me, but I get it. But 147 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: the fact that she was Sendy Laper kind of made 148 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: it weird and You're like, why is she doing it? 149 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: It was weird? Yeah, right, it was. It was weird. 150 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: That didn't work. Sny Laper did not cross over. Brett 151 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: Michaels from Poison, someone I had on the show because 152 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: I was like freaking poison and played softball with him. 153 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: He's a good athlete. Yeah yeah, really nice guys. And 154 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: he came in and he had a song called Girls 155 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: on Bars, Girls Dancing. Did he ever release the album 156 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: for this? Do you know, like a full album? I 157 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: thinking maybe two singles? It didn't work. He served as 158 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: a judge on Nashville Star in two thousand five. Did 159 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: you know that he released He did release a full 160 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: on country album, Freedom of Sound. This is an older, 161 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: one older, older record with Jessica Andrews. So that he 162 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: did not That did not work. But I had him 163 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: on the show and I thought he's a nice guy. 164 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes I have people on the show and I don't 165 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: even root for their music so much. I just liked 166 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: them as a guest. So I didn't think that Brett 167 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: Michael stuff was gonna work. But I did like him, 168 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: and he was gonna talk about poison, talk about rock love, 169 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: all that stuff that I thought my audience would like. 170 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: So Brett Michaels did not cross over. Kid rock is one. 171 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: And so when I was in college, was this kid rock. 172 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: Kid rock is like rap. It was like hardcore rock 173 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: rap and kid rock freaking crossed over. And he was 174 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: sh Aw Summer Long, We crossed over hers Thanks Whiskey, 175 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: not thinking about this was a top five song. He 176 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: hops to CEMT Music Awards twice. Kid Rock. Did you 177 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: know that it's very can He also had like picture 178 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: pion I changed. It was never weird like him doing country, 179 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: know him doing to such like rock wrap to doing country. 180 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: It made sense him because he kinda was like a 181 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: trailer park dude, and being a fellow trailer park dude, 182 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: it was kind of like trailer park dudes like all 183 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: kinds of music. And I feel like it's gonna be 184 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: post Malone. You think he's gonna come with the country record. 185 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: Here is like here's a song that did not work 186 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: from kid Rock but ain't nothing like I thought this 187 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: was a good this Tennessee Mountain Top, some straight shooting, 188 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 1: but yes, he's a crazy successful crossover him pray for 189 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: peace but still pecking. Here's an interesting one is Aaron 190 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: Lewis him from Staines who I think I gotten to 191 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: fight on the area, remember that because he was bashing 192 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: Luke Bryan and somebody else. And I put him on 193 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: and we called him. I called him to have his numbers. 194 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: We have his number? No, did we have his No? 195 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: We did. He was in stain and he put out 196 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: a country record and two Thou was the first one 197 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: that ain't country. That's It almost feels like, I don't know, 198 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: that's not super believable to me, and I think I 199 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: think this is more so and it sounds like stain 200 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: doing country. That's I felt like he's this is really 201 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: trying that ain't country. You got in a saloon with 202 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: his chaps and I was like, no, trust me. I 203 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: do think he's probably kind of a country is guy. 204 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: But when you go from me in a rock band 205 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: is something sounds super super traditional. There's gotta be like 206 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: at that pivot point where you just don't go from 207 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: one or the other that ain't country. I hate when 208 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: people tell other people they're not country, and not just 209 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: that song, but that's that's what that song does. But 210 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: that really bothers me when people go with that ain't 211 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: because that's not country, Like you're not the country warden. 212 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: You don't get to decide, And what does that even mean? 213 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: What's country? That is at the instruments? Is that the 214 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: message of the music. There are a lot of things 215 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: that our country. That's kind of his whole thing, Like 216 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: goes looking at his Twitter that he feels that some 217 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: things are country. People can say he's not country, and 218 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: you know what, it's the right to say that. But 219 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm just not someone who goes on any country, Like, 220 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: what are your sensibilities? How you grew up? I grew 221 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: up in a tiny town in Arkansas. His country. It 222 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: could possibly be. However, I love hip hop, most big 223 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: nineties alternative. I think it's just what aid you grew 224 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: up with, a big part of all that you'd like 225 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: to listen to. Lionel Richie had a big crossover attempt. 226 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: Come on, is it me? Huge pop star? But he 227 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: had a top ten country song huh yeah. Nine. Deep 228 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: River Woman climbed number ten. He also wrote Lady for 229 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: Keney Rogers, was a pop number one in a country 230 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: number one. Whenever I go bon Jovi, you probably go 231 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: probably not, but he kind of did. This song was 232 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: massive in it. The weird part about this bon Jovi first, 233 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: so bon Jovi huge band of the eighties, even a 234 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: bit of the nineties obviously, but then him and Jennifer 235 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: Nettles did this song you know who says you can't 236 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: go home, trying to get out of this place. I 237 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: was a little song. And the weird thing about this 238 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: was is that this song he cross over in the country. 239 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: It's so big a country that crosses back over into 240 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: pop like he's a pop artist, the wind country that 241 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: it was so big across back over into pop again 242 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: because we played that a little bit, but that was interesting. 243 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: Tom Jones had a number one country song by the Way, 244 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: which is crazy. She's this's Tom Jones, this is Tom Joes. 245 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: It's not mus you want to be alone by everyone, 246 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: It's not unusual. Here's this number one country song. Seventy six. 247 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: Tom Jones had the number one country hit ca to 248 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: Mad and then I'll finish with this one. Jessica Simpson. 249 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: She was obviously a huge pop star when she was younger, 250 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: and I think they did that movie together, the Dukes 251 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: of Hazzard and Willie Nelson. Was like, hey, you like 252 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: country music, you grew up in Texas. Do a country 253 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: music song and a record, And so she put out 254 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: an album called do you Know? Debuted number one country 255 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: album and come on Over. It was a top twenty song, 256 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: so kind of she's kind of crossed over. It's kind 257 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: of funny, like back the history of crossovers again, I 258 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: root for things from country to crossover into pop because 259 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: that means it's so good for us that it got 260 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: so big that pop has to look at it and go, 261 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: oh wow, this is doing so great in its own format. 262 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: And that's what happens a lot of times. Like the 263 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: alternative songs like Imagine Dragons, they have to do so 264 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: well an alternative to be considered a pop. Pop is 265 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: basically the major leagues for all music. If it kills 266 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: and its genre, it goes to pop. Like hip hop, 267 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: All the biggest hip hop songs go to the pop 268 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: stition like panic get to Disco right now has the 269 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: number one alternative and so unless it's an artist that 270 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: is just a straight pop artist, like the pop format 271 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: is basically just what's popular and altogether formats, there's this 272 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: weird negative connotation to pop when it actually pops awesome 273 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: because it just means popular. So as Dan and Shame 274 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: make a run Tequila, I'm rooting for him. I mean, 275 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: I don't know speech Slo doesn't do hit the pop 276 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: chart too, it is. It is on the too, Tequila, 277 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: So they're both where are they both? Well, Tequila is 278 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: done on the pop chat Yeah, look at that. Well whatever, 279 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: those guys are crossover money. Eventually they're gonna have something 280 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: go big. So well, there you go. It's all the crossovers. 281 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: Let me do um before we get a j on 282 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: from the Backstreet Boys. Let me talk about Dollar Shave 283 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: Club because I love it. In my house, my bathroom, 284 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: you see a lot of Dollar Shape Club stuff. I 285 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: love that they have everything I need to look my best. 286 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: You know what I love too, is that I never 287 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: have to go to the store because Dollar Shape Club 288 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: delovers everything I need right to the door, and they 289 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: keep me fully stocked on what I use so I 290 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: don't run out and they have it all. They have 291 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: you covered head to toe, your hair, your skin, your face, 292 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: whatever you need, they have it. And they have this 293 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: new program where they automatically keep you stocked up on 294 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: products you use. 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They're handsome discount The more you buy, 305 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: the more you save. Right now, they have a bunch 306 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: of starter sets. You can give her five bucks, like 307 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: their oral Care Kit. After that, the restock box ships 308 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: regular sized products at regular prices. So what are you 309 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: waiting for? You started set five bucks right now? Dollar 310 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: Shave Club dot Com slash Bones Dollar Shave Club dot 311 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: Com slash Bones. Alright, we'll talk to J. McLean. We're 312 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: gonna play that interview right now. Hello, Hello, Mr Mr Man, 313 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: Hey dude, what's happening dude? Wait? First off, Happy New Year, 314 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: Mary Chris, and congratulate freaking relations. Dude. I was your 315 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: number one fan on the show when you got the 316 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: mirror ball. I was like, thank you. I would have 317 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: been so mad. I would have caused a social media 318 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: uproar if you didn't win. Thanks dude. I appreciate that 319 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 1: you're good. M dude. I couldn't be better, man. I mean, 320 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: just uh, a little bit of stress with the whole 321 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: fire situation that happened in California. My family and I've 322 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: been bouncing around from hotel to hotel, the house to house. 323 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: We're moving again tomorrow, but we'll we'll hopefully be back 324 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: in our house by April. How about New Year start? 325 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: What are you up to, man, dude. I've been busting 326 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: my butt trying to finish up my debut solo country record, 327 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: which will be out in April. UM and then uh backstreets, 328 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: gearing up about to go back on tour, brand new 329 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: album coming out at the end of this month. We 330 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: have two more runs in Las Vegas and then we 331 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: are done in Las Vegas, and then rehearsals start and 332 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: we're back on the road again Manniversary tour. It's pretty 333 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: much the rest of this year is cooked. You're you're grinded. Man. Yeah, dude, 334 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: got to man, gotta do it. I truly missed being 335 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: on a tour of US Vegas has been outstanding, it's 336 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: been phenomenal, But there's just something about being on a 337 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: bus that I do miss. Talk to me for a 338 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: second about this country project and what you have in mind, Like, 339 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: what's what's the plan? Well, Uh, we're hoping to have 340 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: another single released, hopefully shortly in the next few weeks 341 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: or like in like the next month. Um. It's a 342 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: song that I actually did with a guy from Nashville 343 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: named Dave Finley. Amazing writer, producer. He was just just 344 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: just recently on the Voice Uh made it to final three. 345 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: He's super talented. Um, And uh, you know, I've I've 346 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 1: been working on this record now for about a year 347 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: and a half. Uh, pretty much ever since we finished 348 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: and put out God Your MoMA and Me with Us 349 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: in FTL. That was where I kind of got the 350 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: inspiration to really kind of just shed my skin and 351 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: really kind of try something new. And but I told myself. 352 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: If this wasn't really organic, then I wasn't gonna do it. 353 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna force it. The songs had to be right, 354 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: my writing space in my head had to be right. 355 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: And it's has happened perfectly, and I couldn't be happier 356 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: with what's with with what's come out, and I can't 357 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: wait for the world to hear it. So what was 358 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: that like for you? Whenever Florida Georgia Lane calls and goes, hey, 359 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: do this project with us? Was that like, Wow, we're 360 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: gonna hop into the country world or was it like 361 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: like what happened in your mind there? Well? You know, 362 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Nick was the one that kind of was 363 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: the catalyst for that whole thing. Dick actually saw the 364 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: guys during CMA Best in Nashville and Franklin, and he 365 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: went to c M A Best. He met the Fellows 366 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: backstage and found out that they're huge backstory boy fans. 367 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: UM b K's first concert when he was six was 368 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: our concert, which is kind of crazy, um and they 369 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: were doing backstreets back in their show and none of 370 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: us really believed it, and then Nick showed us a 371 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: YouTube video and sure enough, they're doing it in like 372 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: a stadium and everyone's singing along, and it was just 373 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: kind of a mind mind blown moment, like, Wow, really 374 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: the country world is rocking out the backstreets back but 375 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: music is from music lovers, you know, and the country 376 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: to me is really kind of open up its doors 377 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: to really expand so much more outside of what what 378 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: country has been known for. And f GL truly, in 379 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: my opinion, are the are the trailblazers. I mean, working 380 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: with Nelly, working with PB rex uh, Jason Derulo, kind 381 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: of stepping in almost an E d M direction with 382 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: certain songs, and then really just kind of having almost 383 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: that urban in that urban pop influence, and that really 384 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: really inspired me. After we did Crossroads with those guys, 385 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: I started really kind of diving into the whole Nationville scene. 386 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: I spent probably a grand total of almost a year 387 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: in Nashville. I was gonna move there. I was gonna 388 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: take my family and move there. I'm mad lee in 389 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: love with the city of Nashville. I love it there. 390 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: I love the people, I love the culture, I love 391 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: the music. It's so inspiring and uh, I spent so 392 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: much time down there, and hopefully someday I do get 393 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: a you know, a nice place down there, but still 394 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: out in California for now, but just been busting my 395 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: button studio. Probably recorded about three quarters of the album 396 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: in Nashville and the rest out here in Los Angeles. 397 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: So tell me the record is gonna come out in April, 398 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: and it's your debut solo country album. Like, what's the 399 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: record gonna sound? Like? What can you tell me right now? Um? 400 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: It is. It's a little bit of all that I 401 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: kind of bring to Backstreet as well as what I 402 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: want to bring to country. So it's got pop, it's 403 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: got urban, it's got country, it's got soul, um, it's 404 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: got gospel. It's definitely just me kind of being myself. 405 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not trying to be something I'm not. 406 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: I just want to make good music that people love, 407 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: that people can relate to. I want to write songs 408 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: about my beautiful children, about my gorgeous wife, about the 409 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: highs and lows that I've been through in my life, 410 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: and just make it a real fun, relatable record. And 411 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: like I said, I couldn't be more proud. I've got 412 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: to work with some super super talented cat that in 413 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: l A and I've done Aunt writing. Ah, we're losing them. 414 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: I think we lost him. Well, there you have a folks, 415 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: He'll leave us with that, He'll leave. We'll just have 416 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: to keep wondering. There he is a J McClain. These 417 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: songs here, I'm having knife his Nie visions, Miss Nick Suberstein, 418 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: drinking with Red Finance, his bag porch bottle service got 419 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: me buzzing on. This was the jam. I want it 420 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: that way. A good luck to him there, he is 421 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: real quick. Hey, we lost your buddy. Yeah, sorry, man, 422 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: it's it's this weird random drop area by my house. 423 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: I have no idea why. It's all wide open spaces. 424 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: Now you're all good, Well, listen, let us know whenever 425 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: you come back to town. Love to have you up, dude, 426 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: absolutely man. And I'll be out in Vegas for a 427 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: c M. So I hope I could get to see 428 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: you out there, because that's right around the time that 429 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: I'm dropping the record. Okay, cool, Well, there is a J. McClain. Hey, 430 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate the nice words, buddy, And uh yeah, maybe 431 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: I see in Vegas. If not, next time you come 432 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: to town, hit me up, absolutely all right. Chopping out again, Hey, Jake, 433 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: gonna talk to you, bud, we're losing you again. There 434 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: is a J McClain. All right, there we go. Episode 435 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: one fifty, Thank you very much, our crossover episode, thanks 436 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: the sponsors Warby Parker and Dollar Shave Club. Thanks to A. J. 437 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: McClain and Jake Owen's and next one going it next 438 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: few days so jakeo win will be here. Also check 439 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: out the Sore Loserer's podcast if you like to come 440 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: the sports with Raymundo, Eddie and Lunchbox. Also, Amy Brown 441 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: has won four Thanks with Amy Brown. A lot of things, um, motivational, spiritual, 442 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: a lot of what else you had to do over there, 443 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: like exercise, a lot of health stuff. Yeah, four things 444 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: to Amy Brown, Velvet's Edge if you're into fashion, and 445 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: she does a bunch of beauty stuff and even pop 446 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 1: culture stuff, so a lot of stuff. Check it out 447 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: on the Nashville Podcast Network. Thank you very much, Episode 448 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: one fifty. We'll see you next time, everybody,