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Speaker 2: So back to the Katie, Katie the news Lady.
Speaker 4: We got a text with a couple of questions that
Speaker 4: I don't think we've ever asked you before.
Speaker 2: I'll just scream it this way.
Speaker 4: Katie Green is a great addition to Armstrong and Getty,
Speaker 4: a real pro. But I do have some questions. One,
Speaker 4: how many pushups can she do?
Speaker 3: What the hell you know?
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know.
Speaker 6: I know that I've done. I think it was twenty
Speaker 6: eight and thirty seconds. How recently, like two months ago? Okay,
Speaker 6: that's pretty rare. I think that number's probably gone out. Yeah,
Speaker 6: if it's fairly recently, that's okay. I've never I don't
Speaker 6: like people tell me how like? This always comes up
Speaker 6: with running.
Speaker 2: On thousand and six.
Speaker 4: This always comes up with running with me? And how
Speaker 4: long to take you to run the ten k or whatever?
Speaker 2: I used to run?
Speaker 4: A ten k and whatever. Yeah, how long ago was that?
Speaker 4: When's the last time you ran a ten k? And
Speaker 4: if you haven't done it in fifteen years, I don't
Speaker 4: freaking care. All right, what difference does it make? Do
Speaker 4: it now nineteen seventy eight? By the way, as long
Speaker 4: as you ask.
Speaker 3: Literally the last time you ran a ten k that
Speaker 3: might have been seventy nine.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do one in the next year. That's what
Speaker 4: I'm building up too. I'm gonna run a ten k
Speaker 4: in the next year.
Speaker 6: I am one of those I need to get that
Speaker 6: zero point zero sticker for my car because I've.
Speaker 5: Never run a ten k and will never run a
Speaker 5: ten k.
Speaker 4: I've never seen that. That's hilarious. Zero point zero in
Speaker 4: the same font. Yeah, it's perfect, and it says I
Speaker 4: don't run.
Speaker 3: If a bear chases me for ten kilometers, I will
Speaker 3: do a ten k.
Speaker 4: There you go, turn to the bear and say how
Speaker 4: long are we going to do this? Because if it's
Speaker 4: going to be more than six point one miles, I
Speaker 4: might I.
Speaker 3: Might just lay down right, Why would I want you
Speaker 3: to eat me when I'm tired.
Speaker 4: And you're just just get this. No advantage to either
Speaker 4: one of us, cut to the chase, cut the chase
Speaker 4: to the catch. So you've done that many push ups
Speaker 4: fairly recently. That's a good chunk of push ups right there.
Speaker 3: I have not done a one since my back problem
Speaker 3: started last summer, So I think I need to start
Speaker 3: working my way back.
Speaker 2: I haven't even tried it.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm three out of the last five days, I think.
Speaker 4: So I'm on a bit of a role here eating
Speaker 4: an exercise. Have you ever been arrested? No, No, there
Speaker 4: there's a hesitation.
Speaker 5: No, there was a dumb situation when I was in.
Speaker 6: Middle school that it resulted in me getting in a
Speaker 6: lot of trouble momentarily before the truth came out.
Speaker 2: But you weren't arrested.
Speaker 5: No, I've never been arrested.
Speaker 4: So your hesitation wasn't Should I say this out loud
Speaker 4: on the air or not? Your hesitation was because I
Speaker 4: went through.
Speaker 6: The most of the everything other than getting booked. I
Speaker 6: went through the process up. Some kid ripped the Mercedes
Speaker 6: emblem off of the vice principal's car and stuck it
Speaker 6: in my backpack because I had come from a Christian
Speaker 6: school and he was all anti Jesus and God and
Speaker 6: all that.
Speaker 5: Wow, and then told and then told the school.
Speaker 6: And the best part was when the assistant principal came
Speaker 6: and got me from class and she pulls me out
Speaker 6: and she says, you know, I think you have something
Speaker 6: of mine and I'm like, oh no. She goes, you
Speaker 6: might be wearing it around your neck, because all the
Speaker 6: kids were like wearing the big fake car emblems around
Speaker 6: their chain. I remember, yeah, yeah, And so I pulled
Speaker 6: out the Catholic, you know, the Celtic cross that my
Speaker 6: mom had got me, and I'm like, I'm clueless. At
Speaker 6: this point, she opens my backpack and there was a
Speaker 6: Mercedes emblem in there.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: So this kid went and said, Katie Green stole the
Speaker 4: Mercedes emblem, said he.
Speaker 6: Saw me take it, and he did it to another
Speaker 6: girl that transferred to the school from the same school
Speaker 6: with me.
Speaker 5: So we both got pulled into the office and we're
Speaker 5: talking to the cops and.
Speaker 2: Well, and how long did it take you to straighten
Speaker 2: this out? Flavor, Flavor? How did you clear it? How
Speaker 2: did you clear yourself?
Speaker 6: It took about I think I was in the office
Speaker 6: for four and a half hours writing a statement and everything,
Speaker 6: and then the whole time I'm going my dad's a judge.
Speaker 3: Just call him.
Speaker 6: We'll clear this up, you know, because he was a
Speaker 6: judge at the time, and yeah, it took a lot.
Speaker 2: It was traumatic.
Speaker 4: Now, for some reason, this reminds me of one of
Speaker 4: my more embarrassing stories. Before we get there, Katie, what
Speaker 4: does it take to become a judge? Because Jack knows this,
Speaker 4: I've been saying for years I ought to be a judge.
Speaker 2: Do you know why? Because I'm so judgmental. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: didn't want to say it. I think I'd be really
Speaker 2: good at it.
Speaker 3: So did your dad get elected or was he an
Speaker 3: appointed judge?
Speaker 6: Or he was he was appointed by Duke Majon Oh okay,
Speaker 6: a governor of yesteryear.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay. Was he a TV judge? A TV judge
Speaker 2: on TV?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: He can give Judge Judy a run for money.
Speaker 3: Oh, I still want to be a TV judge anyway.
Speaker 3: Jack has an embarrassing story. I'm gladys I was in
Speaker 3: high school. I didn't believe I was a sophomore in
Speaker 3: the band. And this is embarrassing for odd reasons. So
Speaker 3: the trumpet section had decided that during this rest a rest.
Speaker 3: If you don't know, music is silence or you'd stop playing.
Speaker 3: But in this case, it was actually silence during the song.
Speaker 4: During the rest, all the trumpet players were gonna, I
Speaker 4: forget what if the noise was even pretend to burp
Speaker 4: or something like that. So it's like about about about
Speaker 4: about about a bout about about but everybody was going
Speaker 4: to do that, and then and and I didn't, but
Speaker 4: all the other trumpet players did. And the band teacher
Speaker 4: went back crazy, like band teachers do over anything. Yes, yes,
Speaker 4: because they ate, because they hate like they hate the
Speaker 4: fact that they're genius musicians usually and other teaching a
Speaker 4: bunch of teenagers who couldn't give a crap about music,
Speaker 4: and it makes them so angry that they drink and
Speaker 4: yell at children.
Speaker 2: This is when you sat them.
Speaker 4: Yes, he used to throw his keys at people, this
Speaker 4: whole city keys or the baton. He threw the baton
Speaker 4: at people, erasers, all kinds of stuff. But anyway, he
Speaker 4: got so mad at people burping during the rest, and
Speaker 4: he went one by one who did it?
Speaker 2: Who did that?
Speaker 4: And then everybody's just kind of sitting there and some
Speaker 4: people were smirking whatever, And he went one by one
Speaker 4: and looked them in the eye and put their finger
Speaker 4: right in their face. Did you make that sound during
Speaker 4: the rest and most of them, most of them fessed
Speaker 4: up and said yes, But it got to me and
Speaker 4: I said no because I didn't so I had.
Speaker 2: I was like.
Speaker 4: It was like a triple whammy of awful. I don't
Speaker 4: think the band teacher believed me. The other kids were like,
Speaker 4: what a puss because I didn't.
Speaker 2: And then I was I was feeling horrible for fever.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking I was lying and that my peers thought
Speaker 4: I was weak for not joining them in the completely
Speaker 4: meaningless hijinks.
Speaker 2: But that's kind of person I was. I didn't join
Speaker 2: in the hijinks.
Speaker 5: And here we are, all these years later, and it's
Speaker 5: still affecting me.
Speaker 4: It's still affecting me, not because it bothers me, because
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I'd feel better if I had.
Speaker 3: Well, you may have been a trumpeter, but you've certainly
Speaker 3: earned the sad trombone.
Speaker 2: Wa wah. That's exactly that's exactly right.
Speaker 4: I didn't join in meaningless nobody gets hurt teenage hijinks
Speaker 4: because I was too straight laced?
Speaker 2: Isn't that incredible?
Speaker 4: And you still got yelled at for it? And I
Speaker 4: still got in trouble for it because he didn't believe me.
Speaker 4: I could tell he didn't believe me.
Speaker 2: So are there any more questions for Katie?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: I enjoying this. Have you ever been arrested? Uh? What's
Speaker 2: the biggest celebrity you've ever met?
Speaker 6: Ooh, I interviewed the cast of Jackass, So Johnny Knoxville
Speaker 6: and all those guys, okay, and Robin Williams.
Speaker 2: That's a big one. That's a really big one. He
Speaker 2: was really sweet at what point in his life.
Speaker 6: Later Actually this was in twenty.
Speaker 2: Eleven, so that's towards the end.
Speaker 4: Then.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was at I was at a comedy show
Speaker 6: and his daughter was performing and he was there to
Speaker 6: watch his daughter.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 4: It's a cool Bay Area guy. So yeah, easier to
Speaker 4: run into the purple onion. Do you get anything out
Speaker 4: of meeting celebrities at this point in your life?
Speaker 2: Not really? Yeah, I don't really.
Speaker 4: After you meet up ahead, everybody should get to have
Speaker 4: the experience of meeting enough celebrities to realize it ain't nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just it ain't nothing. Used to fairly awkward.
Speaker 6: Or like, I mean, you guys know, that's being in
Speaker 6: a position where some people might look at you as
Speaker 6: one and you're just right.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, exactly, not at all. Yeah, And that's the
Speaker 4: weird thing about celebrity. It's all in the other person's head.
Speaker 4: It doesn't actually exist as a thing. It's you can't
Speaker 4: measure it or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Right, right.
Speaker 3: And while I actually ninety eight percent of the time
Speaker 3: really enjoy meeting folks who say, hey, I recognize you,
Speaker 3: I just want to say I like the show. It's
Speaker 3: because people are very nice, and you often end up
Speaker 3: being really nice people who I enjoy chatting with the
Speaker 3: greatest experience or experience rather to illustrate what Jack's talking
Speaker 3: about is And this has happened many many times, will
Speaker 3: meet like a super avid listener who has a friend
Speaker 3: with them who doesn't listen, or has never heard of us,
Speaker 3: or was from a different part of the country or whatever.
Speaker 3: You had one person about to go to pieces and
Speaker 3: the other like, hey, how's it going. So as yes,
Speaker 3: people have observed, fame isn't something you have, it's something
Speaker 3: they have.
Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and don't still it's so anybody who aspires to fame,
Speaker 3: don't trust me when I say this. If you aspire
Speaker 3: to have a successful business. I consider our quote unquote
Speaker 3: fame just to be like an after effect of a
Speaker 3: successful business. But the idea that your self image will
Speaker 3: rise and fall based on the number of people who
Speaker 3: think you're cool or whatever. Now you don't don't get
Speaker 3: into that.
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Speaker 4: So here's the serious thing I was going to do,
Speaker 4: which feels weird now, but maybe I need transition music.
Speaker 2: In my mind. Have we ever used transmission transmission music?
Speaker 4: This is when you shift from second to third gear,
Speaker 4: transition music from silly too serious?
Speaker 2: Can we do that, Michael? Yeah, I think this will work.
Speaker 2: Actually both ways here, Okay, you know you're right.
Speaker 3: We used to have different silly to serious music than
Speaker 3: are serious to silly music.
Speaker 2: This is this does work. This is a song Sam's
Speaker 2: going to be dancing too.
Speaker 4: You're in the fifties when the twist was popular. Anybody
Speaker 4: can twist awesome when there were dances, the monkey to swim.
Speaker 2: Anything that you just like you knew what you're supposed
Speaker 2: to do with your hands, and it was crossy simple.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not doing a good job of transitioning to
Speaker 4: something serious.
Speaker 2: This Air Force pilot retired over the weekend who was
Speaker 2: involved in nine to eleven.
Speaker 4: And I had never heard this story, or I had
Speaker 4: and I forgot it because I can hide my own
Speaker 4: Easter eggs. Anyway, This Air Force F sixteen pilot retired
Speaker 4: over the weekend after forty years in the Air Force.
Speaker 4: He his job was to take out Flight ninety three,
Speaker 4: the last plane that was still in the air on
Speaker 4: nine to eleven. And I had never heard this story
Speaker 4: in completion. I knew that we had scrambled fighter jets
Speaker 4: and that that was a possibility.
Speaker 2: I didn't know this. He's sixty one years old now.
Speaker 4: He was in his late thirties at the time, and
Speaker 4: him and this other female pilot, Heather Penny, who was
Speaker 4: twenty six at the time, were ordered to go up.
Speaker 4: This is after you know, two planes that at the
Speaker 4: World Trade Center. One it hit the Pentagon and there
Speaker 4: was another plane in the air, and we figured it
Speaker 4: out and this had all occurred in like seconds, and
Speaker 4: this was all happening really really fast, and they were
Speaker 4: scrambled and told to go up and what was the
Speaker 4: actual phrase, stop it? Their orders were to locate flight
Speaker 4: ninety three and stop it. That's all they were told.
Speaker 4: So him and this other woman went up, and he
Speaker 4: was the guy in charge, and he went up because
Speaker 4: he didn't want to ask anybody else to do this,
Speaker 4: because he had an idea of how awful this would be.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: They decided him and this woman that if required, they
Speaker 4: would hit the hijack plane with their jets, making it
Speaker 4: a suicide mission. They were Yeah, he said that we
Speaker 4: couldn't figure out how to it first because our fighter
Speaker 4: jets were not armed with missiles. Oh, we did have
Speaker 4: any weapons. We were just we just went up and
Speaker 4: were told to stop that plane.
Speaker 2: Oh my lord. I so you hadn't heard this either.
Speaker 4: So he and this woman said they planned to ram
Speaker 4: the front of the jetliner and he was going to
Speaker 4: hit it from the front. She was going to hit
Speaker 4: it from the back at the same time, flying at
Speaker 4: you know, six hundred miles an hour, and that's what
Speaker 4: they were going to do. But right before they were
Speaker 4: already in the air and screaming toward the plane. Before
Speaker 4: it happened, they got word that the plane had gone down.
Speaker 4: Because we all know, the passengers took over the plane
Speaker 4: and it crashed into the ground and they all died.
Speaker 4: This guy, the woman was single and childless. But this
Speaker 4: dude's I should give his name. I haven't given his
Speaker 4: name yet, have I. He's a freaking hero, Mark Sassville.
Speaker 4: He had a wife and two young children, ages three
Speaker 4: and five.
Speaker 2: At the time.
Speaker 4: He said, it's a testament to those people that brought
Speaker 4: down that plane that changed my life's family forever.
Speaker 6: He was going to die, wife and two young kids,
Speaker 6: going Okay, this is what I have to do.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 4: He didn't even think about it at the time. He said,
Speaker 4: training just kicked in. It all happened so fast. They
Speaker 4: were given the order to take down the plane okay,
Speaker 4: and he talked to the woman, this is what we'll do.
Speaker 4: We'll fly into the plane, and it.
Speaker 2: Just all I'm sure it was happening very very fast. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, more toxic masculinity from him and her.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, that's that's incredible.
Speaker 3: How many people did those passengers on flight ninety three save.
Speaker 3: It's a number that'll never be known. Well, were the
Speaker 3: flight was believed to be headed for what the White House?
Speaker 2: That guy was going to say. They're not certain still
Speaker 2: on that yet.
Speaker 4: There were some beliefs that it was the White House,
Speaker 4: some that it was the capital.
Speaker 2: But either way it was going to be like the Capitol. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: either way it was going to be bad.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it'd be interested to know if he called his
Speaker 6: wife prior to getting in that jet.
Speaker 2: Oh what you would say.
Speaker 4: From reading just this short description of there was no
Speaker 4: time for that. This was a this is what's happened.
Speaker 4: There's still a flight in the air, like a run
Speaker 4: to the plane, get in the air.
Speaker 2: And just go and go. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, if you read the nine to eleven report, it
Speaker 3: was amazing how much confusion there was and trying to
Speaker 3: get planes in the air to defend DC or whatever.
Speaker 3: There's nobody even knew who to call to suddenly defend
Speaker 3: the homeland, and so enormous amounts of time elapsed before
Speaker 3: they got like a significant force up in the air.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Somehow, I just happened to see the video the other
Speaker 4: day of George Bush reading the reading to those kids,
Speaker 4: and the person came and whispered in his ear mister
Speaker 4: President were under attack. I understand why he did this
Speaker 4: how he did it because he was in shock himself.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: He says he didn't want to like freak out the kids.
Speaker 4: He should have stood up right there and just walked out.
Speaker 4: The kids will be fine. The whole America's the whole
Speaker 4: country is about to be freaked out. So yeah, waiting
Speaker 4: another however many minutes it was before he did anything.
Speaker 4: I don't know that was the best choice, but I
Speaker 4: can understand. Yeah, that's a lot to comprehend in a
Speaker 4: very you know, all of a sudden, sitting in front
Speaker 4: of the press.
Speaker 2: He was sitting there because I just for some reason.
Speaker 4: Oh, I was at some more recent interview where he
Speaker 4: talks about it, because now he is an old man.
Speaker 4: It's interesting to see the videos of him now he's
Speaker 4: an old man, and he was such a young man
Speaker 4: at the time. But he was talking about how he
Speaker 4: was looking at the back of the room and seeing
Speaker 4: all the press. They were all getting the alerts, so
Speaker 4: he knew they knew. And that's a lot to have
Speaker 4: ridle through your brain at one time.
Speaker 3: I actually know a couple of people who know w
Speaker 3: one a little bit, one very very well. He was
Speaker 3: in the press office for HW, and then knew W
Speaker 3: and his family too, and everybody who knows George W
Speaker 3: really really likes him.
Speaker 2: And this guy who worked for HW for.
Speaker 3: A number of years, he echoes the impression I'd always gotten.
Speaker 3: He said he's one of the most honorable and decent
Speaker 3: people he's ever known.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, lots of people say that, which is interesting.
Speaker 2: What happened.
Speaker 4: In terms of our choosing whether we choose our candidates,
Speaker 4: not the way we choose our candidates, and we don't
Speaker 4: have any requirements for.
Speaker 2: Decency or experience or really anything mental capacity coherence day,
Speaker 2: what do you do?
Speaker 1: Strong?
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Speaker 3: to get podcasts.
Speaker 4: Conan O'Brien went to Harvard and was involved in National
Speaker 4: Lampoon there and then went on to write for.
Speaker 2: The Simpsons and Saturday Night Live and have his own show.
Speaker 4: And even with all that success, I think he's more
Speaker 4: successful now at age sixty, than he's ever been in
Speaker 4: his career. He just sold his podcast de Lei Out
Speaker 4: to Serious XM for one hundred and fifty million dollars
Speaker 4: and he's got millions of people that tune into his
Speaker 4: various works now, so good for him. Funny guy, creative guy.
Speaker 4: An interesting thing about his personality that I heard in
Speaker 4: an interview I want to bring up, but first, let's
Speaker 4: hear a clip of him on The Tonight Show last
Speaker 4: night with Jimmy Fallon, first time he'd been back to
Speaker 4: The Tonight Show since he got it taken away from
Speaker 4: him back in the day.
Speaker 7: This really nice young guy in a white shirt in
Speaker 7: a baseball cap starts chatting with me, and he's saying,
Speaker 7: you know, Conan and I love the podcast, and.
Speaker 2: I also I really love the old late night clips.
Speaker 7: I watch him all the time, and you know, I
Speaker 7: also really like the stuff you did with the Simpsons.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, he's so nice. Yeah, I'm saying, thank
Speaker 7: you so much. Then we both go through the TSA thing.
Speaker 7: He goes through. I go through. I collect all my stuff,
Speaker 7: you know, the way you're kind of distracted. I put
Speaker 7: my belt on, get my shoes back on. I turn around,
Speaker 7: see the guy white shirt hat, and I go, you
Speaker 7: know what, let's do selfie. Come on, come on to
Speaker 7: do a selfie. And the guy got okay, let's go
Speaker 7: your knucklehead, and I get him like in a headlog
Speaker 7: and he does a selfie and just as he's taking it,
Speaker 7: I look, my guy's over there. This is just a
Speaker 7: guy who's also wearing a white shirt in a baseball cap, which.
Speaker 2: Is pretty eff in common.
Speaker 7: So rewind that story now and see it from his
Speaker 7: point of view. He's waiting for his wife to come through.
Speaker 7: Connor O'Brien comes through.
Speaker 2: And he's like, hey, Sophie, get it. That's what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 7: And I told the guy, I feel so, but you
Speaker 7: can delete it, and he was looked like he was
Speaker 7: on the fence about deleting it. I felt terrible, but
Speaker 7: I love moments like that where I'm go right back
Speaker 7: down to whatever you think you've.
Speaker 2: Achieved in life.
Speaker 7: Merely here's a guy who thinks I met Connor O'Brian.
Speaker 7: He's just an insane a hole. That would be confusing.
Speaker 4: You're standing there, ConA Brian all of a sudden shows Upfie.
Speaker 2: What what?
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a great story, Oh Lord?
Speaker 2: And well told God.
Speaker 4: Conan O'Brien flying commercial and taking off his belt and shoes.
Speaker 2: I mean, when was that or does he still do that?
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder does he doesn't even do the TSA PreCheck.
Speaker 3: It's not that expensive, man.
Speaker 4: So one thing I did you So, Conan O'Brien's probably
Speaker 4: really closer to your era, Katie as being the big
Speaker 4: late night came in ours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, huge. I love him. I think he's
Speaker 2: hysterically funny. He is.
Speaker 4: He is a funny, funny guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I love watching his stuff where he goes out in
Speaker 6: the public and just messes with people. He's got a
Speaker 6: great series on YouTube where I think if you just
Speaker 6: type in Conan, he has his own channel and it's
Speaker 6: just all this stuff of him with like Kevin Hart
Speaker 6: having the intern drive and just.
Speaker 5: Completely screwing with her the whole time. It's just wonderful.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And uh, what another Conan thing is, Oh, I've heard
Speaker 4: Adam Sandler on a different podcast talking about how when
Speaker 4: Conan so, Conan was a writer there and a lot
Speaker 4: of those big stars from Sarah and Liver are there,
Speaker 4: and then when Conan got his own show, they were
Speaker 4: all so excited for him because they all liked him.
Speaker 4: And Adam Sandler and David Spadeen, Chris Farlin, all those
Speaker 4: people went over to somebody's house to watch his first
Speaker 4: show because they were all so excited that he was
Speaker 4: getting his big shot to be a big deal, and uh,
Speaker 4: I need it turned out to be a big deal.
Speaker 2: And like I've mentioned a few times, he.
Speaker 4: Just sold his podcast for one hundred and fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2: Too serious. After all his success, so good for him.
Speaker 4: But even with all that, he was on some buddy
Speaker 4: else's show and talking about how and I think this
Speaker 4: is true for a lot of people. How no matter
Speaker 4: what is happening to his life, he's still the same
Speaker 4: guy who was in high school. When in high school
Speaker 4: he was a very awkward, not very well liked, weirdo
Speaker 4: with not very many friends. And he said he's still that,
Speaker 4: he still sees himself that way. He's still always uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: He just he said he doesn't at this point, he's
Speaker 4: sixty years old. He doesn't expect anything will ever change that. So,
Speaker 4: no level of crowds, cheering money, success, anything has changed
Speaker 4: who he was in high school. And uh, even without
Speaker 4: the crowd's money and everything like that, I feel the
Speaker 4: same way too. So why why is who we were
Speaker 4: in high school baked into who we are for the
Speaker 4: rest of our lives.
Speaker 2: Whose cruel trick was that?
Speaker 3: I guess back when I would have been a cave boy,
Speaker 3: it just didn't matter.
Speaker 2: Life was so completely different for the.
Speaker 3: First ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine percent
Speaker 3: of mankind's existence. It was, you know, all right, look,
Speaker 3: you're you're of breeding age, you're of fighting age. You're
Speaker 3: tracking down a mastadon and putting a spirit in a age.
Speaker 3: Let's get this done. When you're going to be dead
Speaker 3: by age twenty four most likely. Yeah, yeah, so it
Speaker 3: didn't matter. Yeah, you're searching for yourself at age forty
Speaker 3: eight as a caveman.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a rarity.
Speaker 3: I just don't know who I am.
Speaker 2: I've seen it work both ways too.
Speaker 4: I've known a few people that were big deals in
Speaker 4: high school and adult life has not worked out for
Speaker 4: them that well, but they still see themselves as the
Speaker 4: big deal, and it just kind of weird to be around,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't I look that great for you,
Speaker 3: but okay, good for you. Well, I still got the
Speaker 3: nose in the air. Congrats looking good.
Speaker 6: But it makes it hard to feel bad for them, though, right, right, right, right, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't Yeah, I suppose.
Speaker 3: So I don't recall running into anybody who really answered
Speaker 3: to that description recently, but yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think I would pity them all the more. But again
Speaker 3: I haven't brushed up against them, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: But getting back to the whole caveman and things, so
Speaker 3: I guess, you know, typical if you're going to have
Speaker 3: like a midnight a midlife crisis, or you know, what
Speaker 3: am I doing? Why am I doing this? Is this
Speaker 3: how I want to spend the rest of my life?
Speaker 3: It'd be like at age seventeen as a caveman, right right,
Speaker 3: all of this eating meat and sitting around a fire.
Speaker 4: And as I wonder if that's the biggest problem, if
Speaker 4: that's the biggest problem modern humans have, is our brains
Speaker 4: and consciousness just was not designed to go past like
Speaker 4: hardly past age twenty breed, win a battle, die next.
Speaker 3: Right, right, Yeah, And I'd imagine if there were scientists
Speaker 3: fifty thousand years ago, if you were to say to them,
Speaker 3: what do you suppose happens to the brain.
Speaker 2: Around age eighty? They would say, what the hell are
Speaker 2: you talking about? Why do you care? Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Are you going to become disillusioned? With life at
Speaker 4: age forty five.
Speaker 2: Forty five? Who do you know is forty five?
Speaker 3: Says the caveman, Right, yeah, yeah, And if they are, so,
Speaker 3: what if you'll excuse me, there's a tiger chewing on
Speaker 3: my leg.
Speaker 4: But if you have imposter syndrome, I would say, if
Speaker 4: Conan O'Brien still has imposter syndrome.
Speaker 2: You ain't getting rid of yours either, no matter what
Speaker 2: you achieve. That's what I learned. Oh yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: I became aware that, well, I suppose I can go
Speaker 3: ahead and say it. My daughter, like so many of us,
Speaker 3: has a bit of that. And we are touring law
Speaker 3: school the other day and the two fabulous young women
Speaker 3: who were taking us around on the tour admitted to
Speaker 3: flaming imposters syndrome. And they're so sweet. They said, everybody
Speaker 3: has it. Everybody has it, don't worry about it. You
Speaker 3: can do this, You'll be fine. And it was great,
Speaker 3: and I think more people need to know that. I
Speaker 3: tried to teach my kids that you know that feeling
Speaker 3: your big successful dad has it every day every day.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. Fake it till you make it seriously.
Speaker 3: But it's hard to convince people. They think, Oh, you're
Speaker 3: just saying that to make me feel.
Speaker 2: Better, right. I remember an interview I saw with Paul Begala.
Speaker 4: He is one of the people that got Bill Clinton
Speaker 4: elected president, and he was talking about what was like
Speaker 4: to be at the White House and walk in there
Speaker 4: every single day, and he said, if you don't walk
Speaker 4: into the White House every day with imposter syndrome, there's
Speaker 4: something seriously wrong with you, because everybody feels like I
Speaker 4: can't believe I'm here.
Speaker 3: Why am I here? Of all people? Me right right?
Speaker 3: I am not good enough for this. I am not
Speaker 3: important enough for this. I see the ghost of you know,
Speaker 3: Thomas Jefferson standing there in the corner.
Speaker 2: Hi, Tom, did you see the game last night?
Speaker 4: So I bet again kind of getting to the other
Speaker 4: side of it. I feel like I have known some
Speaker 4: people who don't seem like they've ever had any self
Speaker 4: doubt one second in their lives.
Speaker 2: And are they just pulling.
Speaker 4: It off really well or are they actually not ever
Speaker 4: have any self doubt?
Speaker 2: I think those people.
Speaker 3: Probably exist, Katie, your opinion, I just think don't think
Speaker 3: there are many.
Speaker 6: I feel like, if you hmm, I feel like they're
Speaker 6: probably just hiding it. Well, it's like a natural, a
Speaker 6: natural thing for someone to feel.
Speaker 2: I think I.
Speaker 3: Would guess eighty percent of the people you perceive are
Speaker 3: that way are faking it, and maybe twenty percent of
Speaker 3: those people actually have whatever genetic gift it is to be,
Speaker 3: you know, super comfortable and.
Speaker 2: No impostor syndrome.
Speaker 3: I you know, I didn't really have it until I
Speaker 3: became an adult, and I get I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know either, But it's partially because I hadn't
Speaker 4: achieved anything. So what would I be an impostor about?
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say.
Speaker 3: As I kept running into things that were increasingly difficult,
Speaker 3: I would think, oh boy, I could I could really
Speaker 3: fail at this? Does anybody around here realize I could
Speaker 3: come completely fail at this?
Speaker 4: I still Katie because I wear a suit to work
Speaker 4: most days. I still like walking down the street in
Speaker 4: a suit. Feel like people could look at me and say,
Speaker 4: what was that guy to wearing a suit for? He's
Speaker 4: not a suit guy?
Speaker 2: Who are trying to kids?
Speaker 5: Going about you?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 4: Just because she could tell by looking at me that's
Speaker 4: not a guy who wears a suit kind of act?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 2: Hey? You think he borrowed that suit or s or someone.
Speaker 2: Let's try to impress.
Speaker 3: Look at the dip in the suit trying the kid
Speaker 3: right exactly, That's what I think.
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Speaker 4: But I mentioned the David Copperfield show that we went
Speaker 4: to the magician and how he was working too sexy
Speaker 4: for a show with lots of kids. There lots of
Speaker 4: kids younger than my kids. Of course the younger kids
Speaker 4: didn't get some of the jokes. But like he asked
Speaker 4: a dad, stand up, sir, see here, you're your wife
Speaker 4: and your kids. When's the last time you and your
Speaker 4: wife had sex in front of their kids?
Speaker 2: Wait? What? Okay?
Speaker 4: And the last time you had this? So seven days ago?
Speaker 4: He writes down the number seven for the trick, and
Speaker 4: last time he had sex. How long did the session last?
Speaker 4: And Dad says twenty minutes. But I'm not answering that
Speaker 4: question in front of my kids. It's weird.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna start calling sex the session from now on, and.
Speaker 3: He sam for a session honey, that's a fantastic session.
Speaker 3: Maybe the rich old bastard just figures I got one act.
Speaker 3: I'm not changing it for these bunch of rugrats.
Speaker 2: I actually told my kids that it was a thing
Speaker 2: with aging.
Speaker 4: Sometimes when people get old, they just kind of lose
Speaker 4: track of what's appropriate and what's not.
Speaker 2: Because that's true, right, and I think he might be there.
Speaker 3: You'd think some of the world's most famous performers would
Speaker 3: have figured that out by now, or had people.
Speaker 4: He's hell, he's hell old. The thing that made me
Speaker 4: laugh the hardest. And I couldn't say this on the show.
Speaker 4: It's inappropriate, and I know some of you don't like
Speaker 4: this language. But so part of the deal he was
Speaker 4: he made this. It's a long drawn out story, but
Speaker 4: he's got this little Yoda baby Yoda type character or whatever,
Speaker 4: and trying to get him home. Anyway, all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: we're all staring at the ceiling, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: a spaceship appears and it's floating around.
Speaker 2: He said, look at that a spaceship. That made me
Speaker 2: laugh really.
Speaker 4: Oh but anyway, so the other thing we did was
Speaker 4: we went to the sphere, and that's the great, big
Speaker 4: Giant Ball if you haven't heard anything about it. It
Speaker 4: got a lot of attention when it first opened because
Speaker 4: you two played there. But it's not just a concert venue.
Speaker 4: In fact, I don't think it's primarily going to be
Speaker 4: a concert venue. I think it's mostly going to be
Speaker 4: like movies and stuff like that. And so we watched
Speaker 4: this movie about Planet Earth and the Big Bang, and
Speaker 4: it was an opportunity to show you oceans and mountains
Speaker 4: and deserts, and I did get a little bit carsick
Speaker 4: motion sickness because you're floating around all this stuff and
Speaker 4: it's so giant.
Speaker 2: It's I forget how many k it was, eighteen K screen.
Speaker 3: Boy, and yeah, no way, I'm going to this eighteen
Speaker 3: K screen that the vertigo of sitting like at the
Speaker 3: top of vertical stands.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like walking up a mountain in one hundred
Speaker 4: and seventy thousand speakers and it's really.
Speaker 2: Remove it all. Yes, so that's cool.
Speaker 4: So when the elephants come stomping through the base is
Speaker 4: like unlike anything you've ever heard before, I mean even
Speaker 4: a great concert.
Speaker 2: The base is just stunning.
Speaker 4: And then the seats move too, so you get a
Speaker 4: full like the elephants are stomping through. It's loud and
Speaker 4: you're kind of bouncing around. It sort of sounds like
Speaker 4: sensory overload. Yeah yeah, And I got a kid with
Speaker 4: sensory issues, so he was actually holding my hand the
Speaker 4: whole show.
Speaker 3: Yes, Joe, did the those woofers? Did they hit the
Speaker 3: brown note? The brown note is a note that all
Speaker 3: bassists know about, and that is a particular note if
Speaker 3: your amp is set up just right, that can cause
Speaker 3: people to poop themselves.
Speaker 4: But the other thing they had at the Sphere, and
Speaker 4: I was thinking about this because there is an article
Speaker 4: in the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about this on the Radiation game.
Speaker 3: Stop giggling. Look, Katie, the audience is not responding. They're
Speaker 3: a bad audience. You know what, You as the bass player,
Speaker 3: you're in charge of punishing them.
Speaker 5: I just from you, I expect more, Joe.
Speaker 3: See, That's that's what's so delightful about me. You know,
Speaker 3: it'll be so many colors, so many different.
Speaker 4: Levels of humor before I move on to the AI thing.
Speaker 4: Back to the Sphere show. So I'm sitting there and
Speaker 4: and I was trying to decide how I'm going to
Speaker 4: talk about this. So I don't get myself in trouble
Speaker 4: with various groups. I'm not going to mention the group,
Speaker 4: but it became clear to me that culturally, and this
Speaker 4: is another country because they don't speak English, culturally, some
Speaker 4: people just talk through shows.
Speaker 2: Because they were all from a.
Speaker 4: Certain area of the world, and they just talked through
Speaker 4: the entire show, and I was giving them the look,
Speaker 4: but they were just so engrossed and out loud like
Speaker 4: regular voice, not even whispering like regular voice conversation, that
Speaker 4: I thought, this is clearly a cultural thing. This isn't
Speaker 4: a wow, This isn't a couple of rude people who
Speaker 4: need to be reminded to be quiet. They come from
Speaker 4: a part of the world where you just talk through shows.
Speaker 4: I guess so in these parts of the world that
Speaker 4: I won't mention because I don't want to get in trouble.
Speaker 4: If you go to a movie theater, is everybody just
Speaker 4: sitting there talking out loud through the whole movie, because.
Speaker 3: That's why it was happening to you think he's gonna
Speaker 3: kiss her.
Speaker 2: I keep expecting her to kiss her. I don't know.
Speaker 6: Good on you for figures, you know, having that thought
Speaker 6: process prior to telling him to shut the hell up.
Speaker 4: Well, they wouldn't have understood me because they clearly didn't
Speaker 4: speak English. But yeah, a couple young couple sitting beside me,
Speaker 4: and then a couple of older people behind me, all
Speaker 4: from similar part of the world, and.
Speaker 5: They just talked fully out loud the whole.
Speaker 4: Show, even like super quiet parts, dramatic parts and everything
Speaker 4: like that, just sol blah.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Weird.
Speaker 4: I guess that's just a cultural thing. In the United States,
Speaker 4: we were quiet during shows.
Speaker 3: Some might say respectful of other people's experience. You know,
Speaker 3: I totally get why you did what you did. It
Speaker 3: sounds super cool. You got kids, they need to have
Speaker 3: experiences and see the world. Blah blah blah. May have
Speaker 3: been exactly when you were there doing that. Judy and
Speaker 3: I were walking through the woods taking pictures of birds,
Speaker 3: and I am so happy that that's what I was doing.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was spectacle at all.
Speaker 4: I was actually thinking watching this thing at the sphere.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure while why anybody would ever need to
Speaker 4: go anywhere or do anything. Ever again, if this becomes normal,
Speaker 4: it was the the clarity of the eighteen K screen
Speaker 4: the sound and all encompassing. I don't know why I
Speaker 4: would need to walk inside one of those great big
Speaker 4: cathedrals in Europe. I had the full I've been to one,
Speaker 4: so I don't have smell o vision yet. This is
Speaker 4: the first time I've ever had the awe feeling that
Speaker 4: you get from doing things in person from a screen,
Speaker 4: and I thought, I think they finally replicated the in
Speaker 4: person experience for seeing a sunset being on the ocean.
Speaker 2: What interesting now?
Speaker 3: You are are famously hard of smelling, heard of tasting.
Speaker 2: You don't taste things normally, okay.
Speaker 3: Which I think has to do with zerol factory center
Speaker 3: in your brain or something like that.
Speaker 2: I disagree.
Speaker 3: You've got to have the smell, you've got to have
Speaker 3: the humidity, You've got to have the feeling of the
Speaker 3: air in a place interesting to really experience it. Anyway,
Speaker 3: So I read the lustiness of an old church, even
Speaker 3: the musty, Yes, the smell of the hymnals Thanks get
Speaker 3: pretty musty after a session. Am I talking in this voice?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm going to ignore that attempted humor.
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