WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Wednesday Hour One

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio and the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong Show, Katty Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 1>Getty and Pee.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Yet Getty Strong And this is.

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<v Speaker 3>The Armstrong and Getty Show featuring our podcast One More Thing,

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<v Speaker 2>So back to the Katie, Katie the news Lady.

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<v Speaker 4>We got a text with a couple of questions that

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think we've ever asked you before.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just scream it this way.

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<v Speaker 4>Katie Green is a great addition to Armstrong and Getty,

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<v Speaker 4>a real pro. But I do have some questions. One,

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<v Speaker 4>how many pushups can she do?

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<v Speaker 3>What the hell you know?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I know that I've done. I think it was twenty

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<v Speaker 6>eight and thirty seconds. How recently, like two months ago? Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>that's pretty rare. I think that number's probably gone out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>if it's fairly recently, that's okay. I've never I don't

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<v Speaker 6>like people tell me how like? This always comes up

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<v Speaker 6>with running.

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<v Speaker 2>On thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 4>This always comes up with running with me? And how

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<v Speaker 4>long to take you to run the ten k or whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>I used to run?

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<v Speaker 4>A ten k and whatever. Yeah, how long ago was that?

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<v Speaker 4>When's the last time you ran a ten k? And

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<v Speaker 4>if you haven't done it in fifteen years, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>freaking care. All right, what difference does it make? Do

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<v Speaker 4>it now nineteen seventy eight? By the way, as long

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<v Speaker 4>as you ask.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally the last time you ran a ten k that

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<v Speaker 3>might have been seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna do one in the next year. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm building up too. I'm gonna run a ten k

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<v Speaker 4>in the next year.

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<v Speaker 6>I am one of those I need to get that

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<v Speaker 6>zero point zero sticker for my car because I've.

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<v Speaker 5>Never run a ten k and will never run a

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<v Speaker 5>ten k.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never seen that. That's hilarious. Zero point zero in

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<v Speaker 4>the same font. Yeah, it's perfect, and it says I

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<v Speaker 4>don't run.

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<v Speaker 3>If a bear chases me for ten kilometers, I will

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<v Speaker 3>do a ten k.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go, turn to the bear and say how

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<v Speaker 4>long are we going to do this? Because if it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be more than six point one miles, I

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<v Speaker 4>might I.

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<v Speaker 3>Might just lay down right, Why would I want you

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<v Speaker 3>to eat me when I'm tired.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're just just get this. No advantage to either

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<v Speaker 4>one of us, cut to the chase, cut the chase

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<v Speaker 4>to the catch. So you've done that many push ups

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<v Speaker 4>fairly recently. That's a good chunk of push ups right there.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not done a one since my back problem

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<v Speaker 3>started last summer, So I think I need to start

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<v Speaker 3>working my way back.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't even tried it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm three out of the last five days, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm on a bit of a role here eating

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<v Speaker 4>an exercise. Have you ever been arrested? No, No, there

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<v Speaker 4>there's a hesitation.

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<v Speaker 5>No, there was a dumb situation when I was in.

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<v Speaker 6>Middle school that it resulted in me getting in a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of trouble momentarily before the truth came out.

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<v Speaker 2>But you weren't arrested.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I've never been arrested.

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<v Speaker 4>So your hesitation wasn't Should I say this out loud

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<v Speaker 4>on the air or not? Your hesitation was because I

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<v Speaker 4>went through.

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<v Speaker 6>The most of the everything other than getting booked. I

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<v Speaker 6>went through the process up. Some kid ripped the Mercedes

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<v Speaker 6>emblem off of the vice principal's car and stuck it

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<v Speaker 6>in my backpack because I had come from a Christian

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<v Speaker 6>school and he was all anti Jesus and God and

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<v Speaker 6>all that.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, and then told and then told the school.

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<v Speaker 6>And the best part was when the assistant principal came

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<v Speaker 6>and got me from class and she pulls me out

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<v Speaker 6>and she says, you know, I think you have something

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<v Speaker 6>of mine and I'm like, oh no. She goes, you

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<v Speaker 6>might be wearing it around your neck, because all the

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<v Speaker 6>kids were like wearing the big fake car emblems around

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<v Speaker 6>their chain. I remember, yeah, yeah, And so I pulled

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<v Speaker 6>out the Catholic, you know, the Celtic cross that my

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<v Speaker 6>mom had got me, and I'm like, I'm clueless. At

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<v Speaker 6>this point, she opens my backpack and there was a

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<v Speaker 6>Mercedes emblem in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So this kid went and said, Katie Green stole the

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<v Speaker 4>Mercedes emblem, said he.

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<v Speaker 6>Saw me take it, and he did it to another

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<v Speaker 6>girl that transferred to the school from the same school

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<v Speaker 6>with me.

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<v Speaker 5>So we both got pulled into the office and we're

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<v Speaker 5>talking to the cops and.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and how long did it take you to straighten

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<v Speaker 2>this out? Flavor, Flavor? How did you clear it? How

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<v Speaker 2>did you clear yourself?

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<v Speaker 6>It took about I think I was in the office

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<v Speaker 6>for four and a half hours writing a statement and everything,

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<v Speaker 6>and then the whole time I'm going my dad's a judge.

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<v Speaker 3>Just call him.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll clear this up, you know, because he was a

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<v Speaker 6>judge at the time, and yeah, it took a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It was traumatic.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, for some reason, this reminds me of one of

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<v Speaker 4>my more embarrassing stories. Before we get there, Katie, what

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<v Speaker 4>does it take to become a judge? Because Jack knows this,

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<v Speaker 4>I've been saying for years I ought to be a judge.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know why? Because I'm so judgmental. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to say it. I think I'd be really

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<v Speaker 2>good at it.

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<v Speaker 3>So did your dad get elected or was he an

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<v Speaker 3>appointed judge?

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<v Speaker 6>Or he was he was appointed by Duke Majon Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 6>a governor of yesteryear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay. Was he a TV judge? A TV judge

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<v Speaker 2>on TV?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>He can give Judge Judy a run for money.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I still want to be a TV judge anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Jack has an embarrassing story. I'm gladys I was in

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<v Speaker 3>high school. I didn't believe I was a sophomore in

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<v Speaker 3>the band. And this is embarrassing for odd reasons. So

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<v Speaker 3>the trumpet section had decided that during this rest a rest.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't know, music is silence or you'd stop playing.

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<v Speaker 3>But in this case, it was actually silence during the song.

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<v Speaker 4>During the rest, all the trumpet players were gonna, I

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<v Speaker 4>forget what if the noise was even pretend to burp

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<v Speaker 4>or something like that. So it's like about about about

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<v Speaker 4>about about a bout about about but everybody was going

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<v Speaker 4>to do that, and then and and I didn't, but

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<v Speaker 4>all the other trumpet players did. And the band teacher

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<v Speaker 4>went back crazy, like band teachers do over anything. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>because they ate, because they hate like they hate the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that they're genius musicians usually and other teaching a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of teenagers who couldn't give a crap about music,

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<v Speaker 4>and it makes them so angry that they drink and

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<v Speaker 4>yell at children.

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<v Speaker 2>This is when you sat them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, he used to throw his keys at people, this

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<v Speaker 4>whole city keys or the baton. He threw the baton

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<v Speaker 4>at people, erasers, all kinds of stuff. But anyway, he

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<v Speaker 4>got so mad at people burping during the rest, and

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<v Speaker 4>he went one by one who did it?

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<v Speaker 2>Who did that?

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<v Speaker 4>And then everybody's just kind of sitting there and some

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<v Speaker 4>people were smirking whatever, And he went one by one

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<v Speaker 4>and looked them in the eye and put their finger

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<v Speaker 4>right in their face. Did you make that sound during

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<v Speaker 4>the rest and most of them, most of them fessed

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<v Speaker 4>up and said yes, But it got to me and

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<v Speaker 4>I said no because I didn't so I had.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like a triple whammy of awful. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think the band teacher believed me. The other kids were like,

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<v Speaker 4>what a puss because I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was I was feeling horrible for fever.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking I was lying and that my peers thought

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<v Speaker 4>I was weak for not joining them in the completely

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<v Speaker 4>meaningless hijinks.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's kind of person I was. I didn't join

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<v Speaker 2>in the hijinks.

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<v Speaker 5>And here we are, all these years later, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>still affecting me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's still affecting me, not because it bothers me, because

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd feel better if I had.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you may have been a trumpeter, but you've certainly

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<v Speaker 3>earned the sad trombone.

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<v Speaker 2>Wa wah. That's exactly that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't join in meaningless nobody gets hurt teenage hijinks

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<v Speaker 4>because I was too straight laced?

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that incredible?

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<v Speaker 4>And you still got yelled at for it? And I

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<v Speaker 4>still got in trouble for it because he didn't believe me.

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<v Speaker 4>I could tell he didn't believe me.

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<v Speaker 2>So are there any more questions for Katie?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoying this. Have you ever been arrested? Uh? What's

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest celebrity you've ever met?

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<v Speaker 6>Ooh, I interviewed the cast of Jackass, So Johnny Knoxville

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<v Speaker 6>and all those guys, okay, and Robin Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big one. That's a really big one. He

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<v Speaker 2>was really sweet at what point in his life.

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<v Speaker 6>Later Actually this was in twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Eleven, so that's towards the end.

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<v Speaker 4>Then.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he was at I was at a comedy show

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<v Speaker 6>and his daughter was performing and he was there to

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<v Speaker 6>watch his daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a cool Bay Area guy. So yeah, easier to

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<v Speaker 4>run into the purple onion. Do you get anything out

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<v Speaker 4>of meeting celebrities at this point in your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Not really? Yeah, I don't really.

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<v Speaker 4>After you meet up ahead, everybody should get to have

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<v Speaker 4>the experience of meeting enough celebrities to realize it ain't nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just it ain't nothing. Used to fairly awkward.

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<v Speaker 6>Or like, I mean, you guys know, that's being in

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<v Speaker 6>a position where some people might look at you as

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<v Speaker 6>one and you're just right.

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<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, exactly, not at all. Yeah, And that's the

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<v Speaker 4>weird thing about celebrity. It's all in the other person's head.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't actually exist as a thing. It's you can't

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<v Speaker 4>measure it or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And while I actually ninety eight percent of the time

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<v Speaker 3>really enjoy meeting folks who say, hey, I recognize you,

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to say I like the show. It's

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<v Speaker 3>because people are very nice, and you often end up

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<v Speaker 3>being really nice people who I enjoy chatting with the

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<v Speaker 3>greatest experience or experience rather to illustrate what Jack's talking

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<v Speaker 3>about is And this has happened many many times, will

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<v Speaker 3>meet like a super avid listener who has a friend

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<v Speaker 3>with them who doesn't listen, or has never heard of us,

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<v Speaker 3>or was from a different part of the country or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>You had one person about to go to pieces and

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<v Speaker 3>the other like, hey, how's it going. So as yes,

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<v Speaker 3>people have observed, fame isn't something you have, it's something

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<v Speaker 3>they have.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great way to put it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and don't still it's so anybody who aspires to fame,

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<v Speaker 3>don't trust me when I say this. If you aspire

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<v Speaker 3>to have a successful business. I consider our quote unquote

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<v Speaker 3>fame just to be like an after effect of a

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<v Speaker 3>successful business. But the idea that your self image will

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<v Speaker 3>rise and fall based on the number of people who

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<v Speaker 3>think you're cool or whatever. Now you don't don't get

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<v Speaker 3>into that.

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<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong and Getty Show, yeah, or jahn rghoe podcasts

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<v Speaker 4>So here's the serious thing I was going to do,

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<v Speaker 4>which feels weird now, but maybe I need transition music.

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<v Speaker 2>In my mind. Have we ever used transmission transmission music?

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<v Speaker 4>This is when you shift from second to third gear,

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<v Speaker 4>transition music from silly too serious?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we do that, Michael? Yeah, I think this will work.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually both ways here, Okay, you know you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>We used to have different silly to serious music than

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<v Speaker 3>are serious to silly music.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this does work. This is a song Sam's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be dancing too.

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<v Speaker 4>You're in the fifties when the twist was popular. Anybody

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<v Speaker 4>can twist awesome when there were dances, the monkey to swim.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything that you just like you knew what you're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to do with your hands, and it was crossy simple.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm not doing a good job of transitioning to

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<v Speaker 4>something serious.

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<v Speaker 2>This Air Force pilot retired over the weekend who was

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<v Speaker 2>involved in nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 4>And I had never heard this story, or I had

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<v Speaker 4>and I forgot it because I can hide my own

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<v Speaker 4>Easter eggs. Anyway, This Air Force F sixteen pilot retired

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<v Speaker 4>over the weekend after forty years in the Air Force.

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<v Speaker 4>He his job was to take out Flight ninety three,

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<v Speaker 4>the last plane that was still in the air on

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<v Speaker 4>nine to eleven. And I had never heard this story

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<v Speaker 4>in completion. I knew that we had scrambled fighter jets

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<v Speaker 4>and that that was a possibility.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know this. He's sixty one years old now.

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<v Speaker 4>He was in his late thirties at the time, and

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<v Speaker 4>him and this other female pilot, Heather Penny, who was

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<v Speaker 4>twenty six at the time, were ordered to go up.

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<v Speaker 4>This is after you know, two planes that at the

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<v Speaker 4>World Trade Center. One it hit the Pentagon and there

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<v Speaker 4>was another plane in the air, and we figured it

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<v Speaker 4>out and this had all occurred in like seconds, and

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<v Speaker 4>this was all happening really really fast, and they were

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<v Speaker 4>scrambled and told to go up and what was the

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<v Speaker 4>actual phrase, stop it? Their orders were to locate flight

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<v Speaker 4>ninety three and stop it. That's all they were told.

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<v Speaker 4>So him and this other woman went up, and he

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<v Speaker 4>was the guy in charge, and he went up because

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't want to ask anybody else to do this,

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<v Speaker 4>because he had an idea of how awful this would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 4>They decided him and this woman that if required, they

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<v Speaker 4>would hit the hijack plane with their jets, making it

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<v Speaker 4>a suicide mission. They were Yeah, he said that we

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't figure out how to it first because our fighter

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<v Speaker 4>jets were not armed with missiles. Oh, we did have

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<v Speaker 4>any weapons. We were just we just went up and

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<v Speaker 4>were told to stop that plane.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my lord. I so you hadn't heard this either.

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<v Speaker 4>So he and this woman said they planned to ram

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<v Speaker 4>the front of the jetliner and he was going to

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<v Speaker 4>hit it from the front. She was going to hit

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<v Speaker 4>it from the back at the same time, flying at

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<v Speaker 4>you know, six hundred miles an hour, and that's what

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<v Speaker 4>they were going to do. But right before they were

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<v Speaker 4>already in the air and screaming toward the plane. Before

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<v Speaker 4>it happened, they got word that the plane had gone down.

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<v Speaker 4>Because we all know, the passengers took over the plane

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<v Speaker 4>and it crashed into the ground and they all died.

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<v Speaker 4>This guy, the woman was single and childless. But this

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<v Speaker 4>dude's I should give his name. I haven't given his

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<v Speaker 4>name yet, have I. He's a freaking hero, Mark Sassville.

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<v Speaker 4>He had a wife and two young children, ages three

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<v Speaker 4>and five.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, it's a testament to those people that brought

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<v Speaker 4>down that plane that changed my life's family forever.

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<v Speaker 6>He was going to die, wife and two young kids,

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<v Speaker 6>going Okay, this is what I have to do.

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<v Speaker 2>He said.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't even think about it at the time. He said,

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<v Speaker 4>training just kicked in. It all happened so fast. They

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<v Speaker 4>were given the order to take down the plane okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and he talked to the woman, this is what we'll do.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll fly into the plane, and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just all I'm sure it was happening very very fast. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, more toxic masculinity from him and her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Wow, that's that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>How many people did those passengers on flight ninety three save.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a number that'll never be known. Well, were the

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<v Speaker 3>flight was believed to be headed for what the White House?

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<v Speaker 2>That guy was going to say. They're not certain still

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<v Speaker 2>on that yet.

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<v Speaker 4>There were some beliefs that it was the White House,

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<v Speaker 4>some that it was the capital.

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<v Speaker 2>But either way it was going to be like the Capitol. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>either way it was going to be bad.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it'd be interested to know if he called his

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<v Speaker 6>wife prior to getting in that jet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what you would say.

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<v Speaker 4>From reading just this short description of there was no

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<v Speaker 4>time for that. This was a this is what's happened.

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<v Speaker 4>There's still a flight in the air, like a run

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<v Speaker 4>to the plane, get in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>And just go and go. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, if you read the nine to eleven report, it

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<v Speaker 3>was amazing how much confusion there was and trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get planes in the air to defend DC or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nobody even knew who to call to suddenly defend

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<v Speaker 3>the homeland, and so enormous amounts of time elapsed before

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<v Speaker 3>they got like a significant force up in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Somehow, I just happened to see the video the other

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<v Speaker 4>day of George Bush reading the reading to those kids,

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<v Speaker 4>and the person came and whispered in his ear mister

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<v Speaker 4>President were under attack. I understand why he did this

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<v Speaker 4>how he did it because he was in shock himself.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>He says he didn't want to like freak out the kids.

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<v Speaker 4>He should have stood up right there and just walked out.

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<v Speaker 4>The kids will be fine. The whole America's the whole

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<v Speaker 4>country is about to be freaked out. So yeah, waiting

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<v Speaker 4>another however many minutes it was before he did anything.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know that was the best choice, but I

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<v Speaker 4>can understand. Yeah, that's a lot to comprehend in a

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<v Speaker 4>very you know, all of a sudden, sitting in front

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<v Speaker 4>of the press.

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<v Speaker 2>He was sitting there because I just for some reason.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I was at some more recent interview where he

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<v Speaker 4>talks about it, because now he is an old man.

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<v Speaker 4>It's interesting to see the videos of him now he's

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<v Speaker 4>an old man, and he was such a young man

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<v Speaker 4>at the time. But he was talking about how he

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<v Speaker 4>was looking at the back of the room and seeing

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<v Speaker 4>all the press. They were all getting the alerts, so

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<v Speaker 4>he knew they knew. And that's a lot to have

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<v Speaker 4>ridle through your brain at one time.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually know a couple of people who know w

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<v Speaker 3>one a little bit, one very very well. He was

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<v Speaker 3>in the press office for HW, and then knew W

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<v Speaker 3>and his family too, and everybody who knows George W

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<v Speaker 3>really really likes him.

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<v Speaker 2>And this guy who worked for HW for.

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<v Speaker 3>A number of years, he echoes the impression I'd always gotten.

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<v Speaker 3>He said he's one of the most honorable and decent

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<v Speaker 3>people he's ever known.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, lots of people say that, which is interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened.

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<v Speaker 4>In terms of our choosing whether we choose our candidates,

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<v Speaker 4>not the way we choose our candidates, and we don't

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<v Speaker 4>have any requirements for.

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<v Speaker 2>Decency or experience or really anything mental capacity coherence day,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Strong?

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<v Speaker 3>It's the Armstrong and Giddy Show, featuring our podcast One

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<v Speaker 3>more Thing. Download it, subscribe to it wherever you like

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<v Speaker 3>to get podcasts.

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<v Speaker 4>Conan O'Brien went to Harvard and was involved in National

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<v Speaker 4>Lampoon there and then went on to write for.

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<v Speaker 2>The Simpsons and Saturday Night Live and have his own show.

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<v Speaker 4>And even with all that success, I think he's more

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<v Speaker 4>successful now at age sixty, than he's ever been in

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<v Speaker 4>his career. He just sold his podcast de Lei Out

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<v Speaker 4>to Serious XM for one hundred and fifty million dollars

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<v Speaker 4>and he's got millions of people that tune into his

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<v Speaker 4>various works now, so good for him. Funny guy, creative guy.

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<v Speaker 4>An interesting thing about his personality that I heard in

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<v Speaker 4>an interview I want to bring up, but first, let's

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<v Speaker 4>hear a clip of him on The Tonight Show last

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<v Speaker 4>night with Jimmy Fallon, first time he'd been back to

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<v Speaker 4>The Tonight Show since he got it taken away from

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<v Speaker 4>him back in the day.

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<v Speaker 7>This really nice young guy in a white shirt in

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<v Speaker 7>a baseball cap starts chatting with me, and he's saying,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, Conan and I love the podcast, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I also I really love the old late night clips.

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<v Speaker 7>I watch him all the time, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>also really like the stuff you did with the Simpsons.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm like, he's so nice. Yeah, I'm saying, thank

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<v Speaker 7>you so much. Then we both go through the TSA thing.

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<v Speaker 7>He goes through. I go through. I collect all my stuff,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, the way you're kind of distracted. I put

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<v Speaker 7>my belt on, get my shoes back on. I turn around,

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<v Speaker 7>see the guy white shirt hat, and I go, you

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<v Speaker 7>know what, let's do selfie. Come on, come on to

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<v Speaker 7>do a selfie. And the guy got okay, let's go

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<v Speaker 7>your knucklehead, and I get him like in a headlog

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<v Speaker 7>and he does a selfie and just as he's taking it,

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<v Speaker 7>I look, my guy's over there. This is just a

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<v Speaker 7>guy who's also wearing a white shirt in a baseball cap, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is pretty eff in common.

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<v Speaker 7>So rewind that story now and see it from his

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<v Speaker 7>point of view. He's waiting for his wife to come through.

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<v Speaker 7>Connor O'Brien comes through.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, hey, Sophie, get it. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about.

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<v Speaker 7>And I told the guy, I feel so, but you

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<v Speaker 7>can delete it, and he was looked like he was

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<v Speaker 7>on the fence about deleting it. I felt terrible, but

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<v Speaker 7>I love moments like that where I'm go right back

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<v Speaker 7>down to whatever you think you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Achieved in life.

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<v Speaker 7>Merely here's a guy who thinks I met Connor O'Brian.

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<v Speaker 7>He's just an insane a hole. That would be confusing.

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<v Speaker 4>You're standing there, ConA Brian all of a sudden shows Upfie.

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<v Speaker 2>What what?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's a great story, Oh Lord?

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<v Speaker 2>And well told God.

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<v Speaker 4>Conan O'Brien flying commercial and taking off his belt and shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, when was that or does he still do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wonder does he doesn't even do the TSA PreCheck.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not that expensive, man.

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<v Speaker 4>So one thing I did you So, Conan O'Brien's probably

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<v Speaker 4>really closer to your era, Katie as being the big

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<v Speaker 4>late night came in ours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, huge. I love him. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>hysterically funny. He is.

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<v Speaker 4>He is a funny, funny guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I love watching his stuff where he goes out in

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<v Speaker 6>the public and just messes with people. He's got a

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<v Speaker 6>great series on YouTube where I think if you just

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<v Speaker 6>type in Conan, he has his own channel and it's

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<v Speaker 6>just all this stuff of him with like Kevin Hart

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<v Speaker 6>having the intern drive and just.

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<v Speaker 5>Completely screwing with her the whole time. It's just wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And uh, what another Conan thing is, Oh, I've heard

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<v Speaker 4>Adam Sandler on a different podcast talking about how when

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<v Speaker 4>Conan so, Conan was a writer there and a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of those big stars from Sarah and Liver are there,

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<v Speaker 4>and then when Conan got his own show, they were

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<v Speaker 4>all so excited for him because they all liked him.

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<v Speaker 4>And Adam Sandler and David Spadeen, Chris Farlin, all those

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<v Speaker 4>people went over to somebody's house to watch his first

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<v Speaker 4>show because they were all so excited that he was

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<v Speaker 4>getting his big shot to be a big deal, and uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I need it turned out to be a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I've mentioned a few times, he.

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<v Speaker 4>Just sold his podcast for one hundred and fifty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Too serious. After all his success, so good for him.

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<v Speaker 4>But even with all that, he was on some buddy

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<v Speaker 4>else's show and talking about how and I think this

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<v Speaker 4>is true for a lot of people. How no matter

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<v Speaker 4>what is happening to his life, he's still the same

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<v Speaker 4>guy who was in high school. When in high school

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<v Speaker 4>he was a very awkward, not very well liked, weirdo

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<v Speaker 4>with not very many friends. And he said he's still that,

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<v Speaker 4>he still sees himself that way. He's still always uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 4>He just he said he doesn't at this point, he's

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<v Speaker 4>sixty years old. He doesn't expect anything will ever change that. So,

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<v Speaker 4>no level of crowds, cheering money, success, anything has changed

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<v Speaker 4>who he was in high school. And uh, even without

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<v Speaker 4>the crowd's money and everything like that, I feel the

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<v Speaker 4>same way too. So why why is who we were

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<v Speaker 4>in high school baked into who we are for the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Whose cruel trick was that?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess back when I would have been a cave boy,

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<v Speaker 3>it just didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Life was so completely different for the.

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<v Speaker 3>First ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine percent

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<v Speaker 3>of mankind's existence. It was, you know, all right, look,

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<v Speaker 3>you're you're of breeding age, you're of fighting age. You're

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<v Speaker 3>tracking down a mastadon and putting a spirit in a age.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get this done. When you're going to be dead

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<v Speaker 3>by age twenty four most likely. Yeah, yeah, so it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't matter. Yeah, you're searching for yourself at age forty

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<v Speaker 3>eight as a caveman.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a rarity.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't know who I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen it work both ways too.

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<v Speaker 4>I've known a few people that were big deals in

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<v Speaker 4>high school and adult life has not worked out for

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<v Speaker 4>them that well, but they still see themselves as the

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<v Speaker 4>big deal, and it just kind of weird to be around,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you don't I look that great for you,

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<v Speaker 3>but okay, good for you. Well, I still got the

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<v Speaker 3>nose in the air. Congrats looking good.

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<v Speaker 6>But it makes it hard to feel bad for them, though, right, right, right, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't Yeah, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't recall running into anybody who really answered

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<v Speaker 3>to that description recently, but yeah, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 3>think I would pity them all the more. But again

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't brushed up against them, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But getting back to the whole caveman and things, so

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, you know, typical if you're going to have

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<v Speaker 3>like a midnight a midlife crisis, or you know, what

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<v Speaker 3>am I doing? Why am I doing this? Is this

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<v Speaker 3>how I want to spend the rest of my life?

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<v Speaker 3>It'd be like at age seventeen as a caveman, right right,

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<v Speaker 3>all of this eating meat and sitting around a fire.

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<v Speaker 4>And as I wonder if that's the biggest problem, if

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<v Speaker 4>that's the biggest problem modern humans have, is our brains

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<v Speaker 4>and consciousness just was not designed to go past like

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<v Speaker 4>hardly past age twenty breed, win a battle, die next.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right, Yeah, And I'd imagine if there were scientists

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<v Speaker 3>fifty thousand years ago, if you were to say to them,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you suppose happens to the brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Around age eighty? They would say, what the hell are

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<v Speaker 2>you talking about? Why do you care? Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Are you going to become disillusioned? With life at

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<v Speaker 4>age forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty five? Who do you know is forty five?

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<v Speaker 3>Says the caveman, Right, yeah, yeah, And if they are, so,

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<v Speaker 3>what if you'll excuse me, there's a tiger chewing on

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<v Speaker 3>my leg.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you have imposter syndrome, I would say, if

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<v Speaker 4>Conan O'Brien still has imposter syndrome.

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't getting rid of yours either, no matter what

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<v Speaker 2>you achieve. That's what I learned. Oh yeah, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I became aware that, well, I suppose I can go

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<v Speaker 3>ahead and say it. My daughter, like so many of us,

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<v Speaker 3>has a bit of that. And we are touring law

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<v Speaker 3>school the other day and the two fabulous young women

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<v Speaker 3>who were taking us around on the tour admitted to

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<v Speaker 3>flaming imposters syndrome. And they're so sweet. They said, everybody

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<v Speaker 3>has it. Everybody has it, don't worry about it. You

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<v Speaker 3>can do this, You'll be fine. And it was great,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think more people need to know that. I

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<v Speaker 3>tried to teach my kids that you know that feeling

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<v Speaker 3>your big successful dad has it every day every day.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't worry about it. Fake it till you make it seriously.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's hard to convince people. They think, Oh, you're

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<v Speaker 3>just saying that to make me feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Better, right. I remember an interview I saw with Paul Begala.

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<v Speaker 4>He is one of the people that got Bill Clinton

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<v Speaker 4>elected president, and he was talking about what was like

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<v Speaker 4>to be at the White House and walk in there

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<v Speaker 4>every single day, and he said, if you don't walk

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<v Speaker 4>into the White House every day with imposter syndrome, there's

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<v Speaker 4>something seriously wrong with you, because everybody feels like I

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<v Speaker 4>can't believe I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>Why am I here? Of all people? Me right right?

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<v Speaker 3>I am not good enough for this. I am not

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<v Speaker 3>important enough for this. I see the ghost of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas Jefferson standing there in the corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Tom, did you see the game last night?

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<v Speaker 4>So I bet again kind of getting to the other

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<v Speaker 4>side of it. I feel like I have known some

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<v Speaker 4>people who don't seem like they've ever had any self

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<v Speaker 4>doubt one second in their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>And are they just pulling.

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<v Speaker 4>It off really well or are they actually not ever

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<v Speaker 4>have any self doubt?

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<v Speaker 2>I think those people.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably exist, Katie, your opinion, I just think don't think

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<v Speaker 3>there are many.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like, if you hmm, I feel like they're

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<v Speaker 6>probably just hiding it. Well, it's like a natural, a

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<v Speaker 6>natural thing for someone to feel.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I.

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<v Speaker 3>Would guess eighty percent of the people you perceive are

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<v Speaker 3>that way are faking it, and maybe twenty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>those people actually have whatever genetic gift it is to be,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, super comfortable and.

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<v Speaker 2>No impostor syndrome.

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, I didn't really have it until I

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<v Speaker 3>became an adult, and I get I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know either, But it's partially because I hadn't

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<v Speaker 4>achieved anything. So what would I be an impostor about?

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<v Speaker 4>I was just gonna say.

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<v Speaker 3>As I kept running into things that were increasingly difficult,

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<v Speaker 3>I would think, oh boy, I could I could really

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<v Speaker 3>fail at this? Does anybody around here realize I could

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<v Speaker 3>come completely fail at this?

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<v Speaker 4>I still Katie because I wear a suit to work

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<v Speaker 4>most days. I still like walking down the street in

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<v Speaker 4>a suit. Feel like people could look at me and say,

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<v Speaker 4>what was that guy to wearing a suit for? He's

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<v Speaker 4>not a suit guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Who are trying to kids?

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<v Speaker 5>Going about you?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>You?

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<v Speaker 4>Just because she could tell by looking at me that's

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<v Speaker 4>not a guy who wears a suit kind of act?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey? You think he borrowed that suit or s or someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's try to impress.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at the dip in the suit trying the kid

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<v Speaker 3>right exactly, That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the Armstrong and Getdy Show featuring our podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>One more thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mentioned the David Copperfield show that we went

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<v Speaker 4>to the magician and how he was working too sexy

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<v Speaker 4>for a show with lots of kids. There lots of

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<v Speaker 4>kids younger than my kids. Of course the younger kids

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<v Speaker 4>didn't get some of the jokes. But like he asked

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<v Speaker 4>a dad, stand up, sir, see here, you're your wife

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<v Speaker 4>and your kids. When's the last time you and your

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<v Speaker 4>wife had sex in front of their kids?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait? What? Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>And the last time you had this? So seven days ago?

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<v Speaker 4>He writes down the number seven for the trick, and

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<v Speaker 4>last time he had sex. How long did the session last?

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<v Speaker 4>And Dad says twenty minutes. But I'm not answering that

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<v Speaker 4>question in front of my kids. It's weird.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna start calling sex the session from now on, and.

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<v Speaker 3>He sam for a session honey, that's a fantastic session.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe the rich old bastard just figures I got one act.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not changing it for these bunch of rugrats.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually told my kids that it was a thing

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<v Speaker 2>with aging.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes when people get old, they just kind of lose

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<v Speaker 4>track of what's appropriate and what's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's true, right, and I think he might be there.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd think some of the world's most famous performers would

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<v Speaker 3>have figured that out by now, or had people.

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<v Speaker 4>He's hell, he's hell old. The thing that made me

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<v Speaker 4>laugh the hardest. And I couldn't say this on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>It's inappropriate, and I know some of you don't like

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<v Speaker 4>this language. But so part of the deal he was

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<v Speaker 4>he made this. It's a long drawn out story, but

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<v Speaker 4>he's got this little Yoda baby Yoda type character or whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>and trying to get him home. Anyway, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>we're all staring at the ceiling, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>a spaceship appears and it's floating around.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, look at that a spaceship. That made me

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<v Speaker 2>laugh really.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh but anyway, so the other thing we did was

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<v Speaker 4>we went to the sphere, and that's the great, big

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<v Speaker 4>Giant Ball if you haven't heard anything about it. It

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<v Speaker 4>got a lot of attention when it first opened because

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 4>you two played there. But it's not just a concert venue.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, I don't think it's primarily going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a concert venue. I think it's mostly going to be

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<v Speaker 4>like movies and stuff like that. And so we watched

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<v Speaker 4>this movie about Planet Earth and the Big Bang, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was an opportunity to show you oceans and mountains

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<v Speaker 4>and deserts, and I did get a little bit carsick

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 4>motion sickness because you're floating around all this stuff and

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<v Speaker 4>it's so giant.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I forget how many k it was, eighteen K screen.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy, and yeah, no way, I'm going to this eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>K screen that the vertigo of sitting like at the

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<v Speaker 3>top of vertical stands.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like walking up a mountain in one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and seventy thousand speakers and it's really.

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<v Speaker 2>Remove it all. Yes, so that's cool.

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<v Speaker 4>So when the elephants come stomping through the base is

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<v Speaker 4>like unlike anything you've ever heard before, I mean even

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<v Speaker 4>a great concert.

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<v Speaker 2>The base is just stunning.

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 4>And then the seats move too, so you get a

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<v Speaker 4>full like the elephants are stomping through. It's loud and

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<v Speaker 4>you're kind of bouncing around. It sort of sounds like

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<v Speaker 4>sensory overload. Yeah yeah, And I got a kid with

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<v Speaker 4>sensory issues, so he was actually holding my hand the

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<v Speaker 4>whole show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Joe, did the those woofers? Did they hit the

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<v Speaker 3>brown note? The brown note is a note that all

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 3>bassists know about, and that is a particular note if

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<v Speaker 3>your amp is set up just right, that can cause

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<v Speaker 3>people to poop themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>But the other thing they had at the Sphere, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking about this because there is an article

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<v Speaker 4>in the Wall Street Journal.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about this on the Radiation game.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop giggling. Look, Katie, the audience is not responding. They're

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 3>a bad audience. You know what, You as the bass player,

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 3>you're in charge of punishing them.

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<v Speaker 5>I just from you, I expect more, Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>See, That's that's what's so delightful about me. You know,

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 3>it'll be so many colors, so many different.

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<v Speaker 4>Levels of humor before I move on to the AI thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Back to the Sphere show. So I'm sitting there and

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<v Speaker 4>and I was trying to decide how I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about this. So I don't get myself in trouble

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<v Speaker 4>with various groups. I'm not going to mention the group,

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<v Speaker 4>but it became clear to me that culturally, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is another country because they don't speak English, culturally, some

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<v Speaker 4>people just talk through shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they were all from a.

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<v Speaker 4>Certain area of the world, and they just talked through

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<v Speaker 4>the entire show, and I was giving them the look,

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<v Speaker 4>but they were just so engrossed and out loud like

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<v Speaker 4>regular voice, not even whispering like regular voice conversation, that

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, this is clearly a cultural thing. This isn't

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<v Speaker 4>a wow, This isn't a couple of rude people who

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<v Speaker 4>need to be reminded to be quiet. They come from

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<v Speaker 4>a part of the world where you just talk through shows.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess so in these parts of the world that

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<v Speaker 4>I won't mention because I don't want to get in trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>If you go to a movie theater, is everybody just

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<v Speaker 4>sitting there talking out loud through the whole movie, because.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why it was happening to you think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>kiss her.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep expecting her to kiss her. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Good on you for figures, you know, having that thought

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<v Speaker 6>process prior to telling him to shut the hell up.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they wouldn't have understood me because they clearly didn't

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<v Speaker 4>speak English. But yeah, a couple young couple sitting beside me,

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<v Speaker 4>and then a couple of older people behind me, all

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<v Speaker 4>from similar part of the world, and.

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<v Speaker 5>They just talked fully out loud the whole.

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<v Speaker 4>Show, even like super quiet parts, dramatic parts and everything

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<v Speaker 4>like that, just sol blah.

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<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Weird.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess that's just a cultural thing. In the United States,

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<v Speaker 4>we were quiet during shows.

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<v Speaker 3>Some might say respectful of other people's experience. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I totally get why you did what you did. It

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<v Speaker 3>sounds super cool. You got kids, they need to have

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<v Speaker 3>experiences and see the world. Blah blah blah. May have

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<v Speaker 3>been exactly when you were there doing that. Judy and

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<v Speaker 3>I were walking through the woods taking pictures of birds,

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<v Speaker 3>and I am so happy that that's what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was spectacle at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I was actually thinking watching this thing at the sphere.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure while why anybody would ever need to

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<v Speaker 4>go anywhere or do anything. Ever again, if this becomes normal,

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<v Speaker 4>it was the the clarity of the eighteen K screen

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<v Speaker 4>the sound and all encompassing. I don't know why I

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<v Speaker 4>would need to walk inside one of those great big

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<v Speaker 4>cathedrals in Europe. I had the full I've been to one,

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<v Speaker 4>so I don't have smell o vision yet. This is

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<v Speaker 4>the first time I've ever had the awe feeling that

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<v Speaker 4>you get from doing things in person from a screen,

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<v Speaker 4>and I thought, I think they finally replicated the in

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<v Speaker 4>person experience for seeing a sunset being on the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>What interesting now?

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<v Speaker 3>You are are famously hard of smelling, heard of tasting.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't taste things normally, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Which I think has to do with zerol factory center

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<v Speaker 3>in your brain or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to have the smell, you've got to have

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<v Speaker 3>the humidity, You've got to have the feeling of the

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<v Speaker 3>air in a place interesting to really experience it. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>So I read the lustiness of an old church, even

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<v Speaker 3>the musty, Yes, the smell of the hymnals Thanks get

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<v Speaker 3>pretty musty after a session. Am I talking in this voice?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm going to ignore that attempted humor.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Armstrong and Joe Gatty, the Armstrong and Daddy Joe