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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We're back on Dale Lolly here with

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. And I feel a little bit like Jerry

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Speaker 1: Rafferty right now. I got clowns to the left of me,

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Speaker 1: I got jokers to the right, and I'm stuck here

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Speaker 1: in the middle. No, I'm stuck here in the middle

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Speaker 1: place I don't do. The middle seat. Welcome Mike pursuita

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Speaker 1: on to the show. Here sat here, and we think

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Speaker 1: so you gotta take the middle seat. My book can

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Speaker 1: see that left hackle was secure. Munos has that locked down?

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Speaker 1: Is there another steel they do the one? Not that

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Speaker 1: I mean Jerry Rafferty went on to have plenty of

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Speaker 1: they were Scottish band, Okay, I mean that. No, I

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Speaker 1: know Paul Clowns left of me. I mean that was

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Speaker 1: Reservoir the year We Welcome Pursuit of the DV Morning Show,

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Speaker 1: Steelers Radio Network, Steelers dot Com. All kinds of stuff,

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Speaker 1: as much as you can do. And Mike I was

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Speaker 1: thinking today as I was walking into the building that

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Speaker 1: I've got a common theme here a thread about why

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Speaker 1: the Steelers have now lost their last two games in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: What has not happened the last two years of Cincinnati's

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Speaker 1: I am not going before there's the s this is,

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Speaker 1: this is not all this is. I was have been

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Speaker 1: deemed not essential on the road, So I'm not on

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Speaker 1: the road. I'm just saying if they want to get there,

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Speaker 1: get their mojo back in Cincinnati, they better get you

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Speaker 1: to the Malley's in the alley. As you know from

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Speaker 1: first aid experience, I've always been willing to do my part,

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Speaker 1: do the dirty work for the team. I mean it

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Speaker 1: searchs with the season and prep too. I mean we

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Speaker 1: can all do our part, you know, year round. This

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Speaker 1: stuff doesn't happen in a week, and just show up

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Speaker 1: and expect all right, you get this rolled out there

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Speaker 1: given a week you had a prep. It's been a

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Speaker 1: tough couple of years off season prep. It has. Uh, Mike,

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Speaker 1: we don't together. Yea. The more the more we do together,

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Speaker 1: the better. But we shocked at all by what happened

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Speaker 1: and I'll give you the same cliches. But how many

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Speaker 1: times have we seen a team look like it's never

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Speaker 1: gonna win a game again, and then it wins the

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Speaker 1: next week? And I picked the Bengals to win, Matt,

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Speaker 1: we did the previous show last week, the Scout's Honor segment.

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Speaker 1: On the pregame show, I said, I think the Bengals

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Speaker 1: And now we're just talking Mike, and if you took

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Speaker 1: They lose these games by three points. But you know,

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Speaker 1: go for it? There's no coincidence there. Nine for fifteen

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Speaker 1: tied with Arizona nine. What's the common theme and something

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Speaker 1: the Steelers might want to address when they're looking for

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Speaker 1: to like Mike. If you who's gonna be the bigger

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Speaker 1: because they blew it up. About to blow it up again? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just can't. You just can't blow it up and

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Speaker 1: You gotta have a plan, and you know it's tough

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Speaker 1: to go into that locker room. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you agree with this or not, Mike, but but tell

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Speaker 1: for the next two or three years. Uh you know, well,

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Speaker 1: okay with that. It's worked the way they do it

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Speaker 1: year every time. Yeah, but if there's an odd you

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Speaker 1: know this is an outlier this year, right, um, just

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Speaker 1: you I mean, right now, they could be I don't

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Speaker 1: think they'll be five eleven and one though, even if

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Speaker 1: they are, is that an indictment of the system or

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Speaker 1: is that just one of those years where stuff happened.

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Speaker 1: I mean I thought all along that this year is

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Speaker 1: for next year, you know that. And Dale and I

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Speaker 1: were talking an hour ago. Well, if that's the Steelers

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Speaker 1: their last place? I mean they've gone it's aggressive, you

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Speaker 1: can get to win now, Well they pay well defensively, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they didn't, and they just couldn't protect Mayfield, particularly after

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Speaker 1: I've gotten that question a lot specifically this week. Well,

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Speaker 1: why aren't the Steelers so set in their ways? I'm

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Speaker 1: like they were kind of adjusted over the years. They

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Speaker 1: made the trade for Menca Fitzpatrick, They've signed guys. They

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Speaker 1: signed T. J. Watt to the the you know, most

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Speaker 1: lucrative contract for a defender in history. They've signed a

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Speaker 1: bunch of guys this year to two deals that you

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Speaker 1: know included avoidable years in future years. So it's not

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Speaker 1: like they haven't adjusted. They have their beliefs they have that,

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Speaker 1: you know, their way of doing business. And as to

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Speaker 1: Mike point, it has worked. I mean the Patriots have

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Speaker 1: gone back to well playing exactly like has worked so

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Speaker 1: well for twenty years. You know, they just didn't have

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Speaker 1: the horses last year, you know, I mean, like, why

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Speaker 1: would you change what works? So a great example, right right,

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Speaker 1: you know, so if you have that bad yeard and

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Speaker 1: you're a little higher up in the draft and then

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Speaker 1: maybe you got a guy right back, the Steelers get

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Speaker 1: bad holes, right, that's the where it goes. Well, Mike,

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Speaker 1: we'll let you go. We appreciate you stopping by. And

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Speaker 1: of course you can hear Mike and Matt tonight on

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Speaker 1: the the what's it called the scouts on a right,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a pretty Steelers preview with you title previus

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Speaker 1: the game the Steelers are going to play. That's good

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Speaker 1: because you don't want to hear Meryll talk about last weeks.

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Speaker 1: What can we call this thing? Let's see how about Steelers?

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Speaker 1: Very good, very good. But we appreciate you for stopping

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Speaker 1: by our guests. As being Mike Pursued of the DV

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Speaker 1: Morning Show Steelers Radio Network, he's Matt Williamson. I'm dale Ill.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, it's time for the Fantasy Football focus.

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Speaker 1: We will do that. Right after this, you were listening

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