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Speaker 1: Wherever you may be, and however you may be watching

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Speaker 1: Jmak is back and I was thinking this morning two

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Speaker 1: fatal flaws or maybe they're just challenges in business, because

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Speaker 1: we're going to start the show talking about the Lakers

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Speaker 1: and the Yankees. Two fatal flaws are when you build

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Speaker 1: a business is what's your identity?

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Speaker 3: What are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm a shopper, you're a company. When you put your

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Speaker 1: name out there, what do I think of? What are you?

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Speaker 1: You need a strong identity in any business, including the NBA.

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Speaker 1: And the second big flaw in business to me is

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Speaker 1: That's more the Yankees, I'll get to that in a second,

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Speaker 1: but it was interesting, big story. Dave mcmannimhon ESPN running

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Speaker 1: a big, big story on the Lakers and why they

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Speaker 1: didn't do anything at the trade deadline because they're waiting

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Speaker 1: for a big move next year. And buried in this

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Speaker 1: article is a line if Lebron does want to play

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Speaker 1: next season, his twenty fourth, he would be welcomed back

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Speaker 1: in La sources tel ESBN. Really, Rob Polinka, what is

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Speaker 1: your identity pick a timeline? The Lakers are having an

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Speaker 1: identity crisis. If that indeed that source is right, you

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Speaker 1: can't get signal magnificantly more athletic. They need to significantly younger.

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Speaker 1: They need to go grab a rim protector and a

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Speaker 1: couple of elite three point shooters, catch and shoot guys

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Speaker 1: and have fifty million dollar Lebron in his forties. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Lebron's never going to be a role player. He's always

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Speaker 1: going to take oxygen out of the room in the offense.

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Speaker 1: And the prince has no power when the king is

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Speaker 1: still on the throne, and Lebron's the king and always

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Speaker 1: will be as long as he's a Laker, and Luke

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Speaker 1: a Lebron retirement to her, how distracting that would be.

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Speaker 1: So this is this article is a prime example. It's

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Speaker 1: just poorly run. They have an identity crisis. They can't

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Speaker 1: pick a timeline. According to the story. If Lebron wants

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Speaker 1: to come back, he can, why should it be his choice?

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Speaker 1: And I'm pro Lebron. This team doesn't have enough shooters, defenders,

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Speaker 1: have so many things. They need multiple starters. And I'm

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Speaker 1: going to die on this hill. Luca is going to

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Speaker 1: be twenty seven in a couple of days. But Luca

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Speaker 1: is going to be twenty nine in a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: And why does that number matter? Because my comp for Luca,

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Speaker 1: which is now acknowledged by a lot of smart people,

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Speaker 1: is that he's a better version of Carmelo. Never been

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Speaker 1: in great shape, profound offensive talent, not really committed defensive end.

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Speaker 1: When was Carmelo's last All NBA year twenty eight years old?

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Speaker 1: We are a year away from that with Luca. He

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Speaker 1: no longer dunks three this year one last year I

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Speaker 1: was told he came into the season in great shape.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't look like it. Now his lifestyle choices. Hey, it's

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Speaker 1: his life. He said last week. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: play like Lebron at forty one. That's not his thing.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: So we always talk about this in the NFL, how

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Speaker 3: Luca's aging.

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Speaker 1: You're going to look up in two years and still

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Speaker 1: and maybe one year off the Lebron retirement. To her,

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Speaker 1: he can be twenty eight, twenty nine years old, and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, we blew the window. So the

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Speaker 1: Lakers have got to figure out what they are. Pick

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Speaker 1: a direction, pick a timeline to me, get younger, get faster,

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Speaker 1: Here was Jason Timpf from the volume talking about this roster,

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Speaker 1: which until you pick a direction. By the way, this

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Speaker 1: is what OKSE did. They picked the timeline. Everybody's in

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Speaker 1: get let's bottom out, get our star Kde Cunningham build

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Speaker 1: if Lebron wants to come for one more year, well

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Speaker 3: Here was Jason tempt yesterday.

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Speaker 4: This roster is utterly devoid of jump shooting talent and

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Speaker 4: really started to mount up on Rob Polinka is the Misses.

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Speaker 4: They need three new starters. Lebron's gonna be leaving. You

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Speaker 4: need three new starters, and they need to build out

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Speaker 4: a bench. They have nobody on the roster who is

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Speaker 4: both a good defender and a good catch and shoot player.

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Speaker 4: Literally not a single one. They are at such a

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Speaker 4: huge disadvantage in this department.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about it. And by the way, you

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Speaker 1: can solve a lot of problems in this league very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Spurs did. Okay see did. But they picked a lane

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Speaker 1: Ever, when you think Spurs, you're like built around Wemby

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Speaker 1: a big playoffs series. They don't want a playoff series yet,

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Speaker 1: but you know it's coming.

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Speaker 1: So I want to talk about the Yankees, by the way,

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Speaker 1: because I read a story this morning, and I'll get

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Speaker 1: to Aaron Judge in a second. But the other part

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Speaker 1: of business, that is something you have to do. You

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Speaker 1: have to self audit all the time. The Yankees do

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Speaker 1: not self audit. They don't look themselves in the mirror.

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Speaker 1: So it used to be the Yankees were the most

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Speaker 1: aggressive team in baseball. Now they're not the most aggressive

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Speaker 1: team in their own division. That's Toronto, or even in

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Speaker 1: twenty four of their twenty six guys. They spent two

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Speaker 1: hundred million in free agency, but it was just resigning

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Speaker 1: their free agents, right. And what's interesting is do they

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Speaker 1: not see their deficiencies? Are they self auditing? They don't

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Speaker 1: come in a lot of errors, and they're totally home

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Speaker 1: run dependent. In fact, since their last World Series win,

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Speaker 1: it's not necessarily working. Last year, when they hit multiple

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Speaker 1: Meaning it's an uneven roster. It's not athletic enough. The

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Speaker 1: this year. Their hope is Garrett Coleoff Tommy John comes

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Speaker 1: back in July or August. He won't be one hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: but it will give them excellent starting pitching. Okay, are

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Speaker 1: they better defensively? Not really. Are they super athletic not?

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Speaker 1: When you watch them play anybody outside of the American

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Speaker 1: League Central, they're not. So this is the time example

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Speaker 1: where the Lakers can't pick a direction the Yankees have.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna jack home runs, but it's not paying off.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you watch them in the World Series

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago against the Dodgers, you're like, man,

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Speaker 1: they're bad athletically, Like they're not. They don't they don't

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Speaker 1: take the extra base. They commit a lot of errors,

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Speaker 1: they strand a lot of runners, and they're totally home

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Speaker 1: I mean the Yankees and the Lakers have a similar problem.

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Speaker 1: They don't beat playoff teams. Yankees last year at a

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Speaker 1: losing record against playoff teams, Lakers this year. So two

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Speaker 1: different problems. One can't pick a direction the Yankees have,

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Speaker 1: but they can't.

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Speaker 3: Look in the mirror.

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Speaker 1: And so I was looking this morning at the last

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Speaker 1: ten playoff series wins for the Yankees. See if you

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Speaker 1: see a trend Twins, Indians, Twins, Indians, Guardians, Royals, Guardians

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Speaker 1: the American League Central, which is a lower revenue division,

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Speaker 1: does not have elite pitching. So the Yankees get multiple

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Speaker 1: against the good staffs, and they have a losing record.

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Speaker 1: So here's Aaron judge on the offseason. The Yankees eventually

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Speaker 1: but it was all their own guys telling me is

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Speaker 5: It was brutal. You know, I'm like, I see a

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Speaker 5: lot of free agents out there. I'm seeing other teams

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Speaker 5: around the league get better. They're making trades, they're signing

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Speaker 5: big prospects or big players, and you know, we kind

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Speaker 5: of were sitting there for a while, you know, kind

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Speaker 5: of making smaller moves early on. It was pretty pretty

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Speaker 5: tough to watch. I'm like, man, we're the New York Yankees.

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Speaker 5: It was frustrating, but I think where we need to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, had some discussions, all right. J Matcott's good

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Speaker 1: to have you back. Very interesting. The what you don't

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Speaker 1: to romanticize about the players you have. So a lot

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Speaker 1: a legendary Super Bowl player. Interesting story out of Seattle

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Speaker 1: on the Seahawks and Kenneth Walker. And this is one

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Speaker 1: of the best gms, if not the best GM right now,

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Speaker 1: in football, it's very easy to re sign the players

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Speaker 1: that were good in big games, but do you is

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Speaker 1: that the best for you going forward? So we have

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Speaker 1: So this is the time of the year that it

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Speaker 1: often gets very weird. So you're a productive player, maybe

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Speaker 1: you had a great playoff run and you want to

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Speaker 1: get paid and you franchise TAGA player players don't like that,

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Speaker 1: And if you don't think it's uncomfortable, here's John Snyder.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this.

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Speaker 2: Ken Walker be in the MVP.

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Speaker 8: Let's god, he's tried negotiating with me.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: my natural inclination is, well, Clint Kubiak's leaving, Sam Donald

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Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News.

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Speaker 10: All right, let's go to the Pittsburgh Steelers to start

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Speaker 10: the morning. Interesting drama unfolding between Ben Roethlisberger and a

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Speaker 10: There was some piling on in the comments section from

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Speaker 9: That's James Harrison. Here's what he said yesterday.

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Speaker 11: You personally, I do not think Ben is a bad team.

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Speaker 11: That was just a pure attack on Band's character. And

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Speaker 11: what I said about Mike was an attack on his coaching. Dude, Okay,

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Speaker 11: two different things. And that's more breaking the brotherhood than

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Speaker 11: what Ben said. Ben said, I think I feel that

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Speaker 11: maybe Tomlin should move on, like, come on, bruh. That's

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Speaker 11: what he said. I went way harder than that, but

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Speaker 11: he went on it because he obviously has a personal

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Speaker 3: By the way.

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Speaker 1: David di Castro a great offensive line for the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: He backed Big Ben today yesterday too. So you got

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Speaker 1: He was named a captain very early. Some players thought

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Speaker 1: Ben got frustrated that Mike Tomlin was very player friendly,

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Speaker 1: DeCastro is a great player, defends him. James Harrison, great player,

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Speaker 1: and hear everything that happens in a tumultuous time.

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Speaker 3: So Tomlin leaves.

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Speaker 1: And now all this stuff is coming out where clearly

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Speaker 3: To castro Ben Harrison Porter, Yeah, this.

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Speaker 10: Is weird, Colin, because Mike Tomlin has basically not said anything.

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Speaker 10: He's not he's not responding to any of this nonsense,

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Speaker 10: What do you need to get in the week? Destroy

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Speaker 10: You're right and give Ben Roethlisberger to the engagement he

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Speaker 1: The stuff people like you and I and fans complained

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Speaker 10: Yeah that, I'm guessing that happens on every team, right

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, everybody's got something some but the Steelers specifically,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and there's also the code of the locker room.

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Speaker 10: Hey, don't go to the media, don't go public with

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Speaker 10: don't have a side here. I just like the Tomlin's

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Speaker 10: not saying anything. You and I both though. When you're

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Speaker 9: All the time.

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Speaker 10: I could care less. I'm unbothered by it, you know.

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Speaker 10: And Mike Tomlin just seems to not care at all

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Speaker 9: All right, let's move on to Lamar Jackson Colin. Interesting subplot.

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Speaker 10: I think this is low key the biggest off season

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Speaker 10: One former NFL veteran believes, if Lamar doesn't get what

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Speaker 10: He wanted the Deshaun Watson contract, that he could force

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Speaker 10: he will only restructure with another team trade me. Now,

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Speaker 10: if you remember the Lamar Jackson last negotiation was ugly,

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Speaker 1: Well I'll say this about John Harball. Sometimes you lose

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Speaker 10: And I'll just tell you, I think we touched on

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Speaker 9: Bring him in here. Does Tom Brady want to go

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just this Lamar thing. I'm telling you, John Harball.

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Speaker 1: through a series of injuries like everybody does. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna have the depth of replaced players without Lamarin.

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Speaker 9: Do you remember?

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Speaker 10: I feel like I heard Lamar is gonna sit in

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Speaker 10: on some of the coaching interviews and stuff, like they're

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Speaker 10: giving him a lot of power for a guy that

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Speaker 10: maybe past his prime. I'll just ask you this. Do

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Speaker 10: you think the Raiders make a move and try to

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Speaker 10: go after Lamar Jackson? You think they're set on Mendoza?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 9: Okay?

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Speaker 10: Final story Colin Miami Dolphins yesterday dumped Tyreek Hill. Not

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Speaker 10: a major surprise, the timing moderately interesting. He had four

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Speaker 10: years in Miami, a couple good ones and a couple

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Speaker 10: less good But we don't know what he's going to

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Speaker 10: be back from the dislocated knee and torn ACL Tyreek

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Speaker 10: is an unrestricted free agent for the first time in

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Speaker 10: his career. He's on social media saying how the Cheetah

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Speaker 10: will be back and born again. His former teammate Chris Jones,

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Speaker 10: I mean, the aging Chris Jones is tweeting at Cheetah

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Speaker 10: obviously to try to, you know, stir.

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Speaker 9: Up interest and get people.

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Speaker 10: Talking about him.

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Speaker 9: I have a hot take on where Hill will land.

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Speaker 10: It's early, but this guy's not gonna be ready for

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Speaker 10: at least the first month. He's going to be out

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Speaker 10: at least a month, maybe longer. And you know his

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Speaker 10: game is predicated on speed. We're talking about a bad

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Speaker 10: injury here. Any any thoughts on where he's going to go?

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Speaker 3: I think Kansas had the ship has sailed.

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Speaker 9: Again.

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Speaker 1: Who has a strong armed quarterback and a speed deficiency?

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Speaker 1: So like the Seahawks last year went and got Rashid Saha,

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Speaker 1: they needed special teams sideline speed and it helped them

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Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. Similarly, is can you get can

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Speaker 1: you get Tyreek Hill? Who's a really good team with

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Speaker 1: maybe an explosion deficiency. You could argue Buffalo, you know,

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Speaker 1: strong armed quarterback, they have a good slot receiver and

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Speaker 1: good tight end play. Do they have over the top deficiencies.

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Speaker 1: I would say yes. I mean that's why you know,

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Speaker 1: when you got Josh Allen, you know you'd like to

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Speaker 1: be able to get some free touchdowns, some over the

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Speaker 1: top stuff, not have to go long field. James Cook

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Speaker 1: tight end slot receiver nine play drive you know is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo of the play Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I don't know that he's gonna want to go to Buffalo.

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Speaker 8: Colin.

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Speaker 9: Remember this is a guy you could.

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Speaker 3: Tear off cap space chargers.

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Speaker 1: I was going to make a strong quarterback cap space

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Speaker 1: sideline receiver.

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Speaker 9: Mike McDaniel. Does he like him?

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Speaker 10: Mike McDaniel only the OC Jim Harball Maybe good cop,

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Speaker 10: bad cop deal going on there. I'll I'll just say,

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Speaker 10: before we get into Tyreek kill Collin, his his background,

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Speaker 10: he's got a lot going on, a lot of lawsuits,

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Speaker 10: a lot of stuff in his personal life. I don't

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Speaker 10: think it's an easy, seamless fit. And I'll add he's

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Speaker 10: not He's a Miami guy. He's a big city dude,

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Speaker 10: like he's loving being a celebrity. I don't know he's

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Speaker 10: gonna go to Buffalo. I think LA could lure him.

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Speaker 10: And I will just say keep an eye on Las Vegas,

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Speaker 10: Collen quarterback on a rookie deal indoors and a chance

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Speaker 10: at revenge against the Chiefs and McDaniel if you believe

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Speaker 10: they didn't get along well at the end.

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Speaker 7: All right, J Mack with the news, Well that's the news,

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Speaker 7: and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: Feldman has an interesting article about the remaking of Fernando

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Speaker 1: Mendoza and Kurt Signetti finding him thinking he had a

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Speaker 1: lot of promise.

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Speaker 3: We did, no.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'd watched him play a couple times at CAL.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think he was going to go sixteen to

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Speaker 1: zero and win a national championship in beat Ohio State

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Speaker 1: in Miami. So, and I've said before I'm a huge

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Speaker 1: believer in Fernando Mendoza. But if you are telling me

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Speaker 1: Colin you have to make your four to oh one

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Speaker 1: k on he's going to be fine and make the

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Speaker 1: Raiders respectable or he's going a bunch of playoff games,

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Speaker 1: I would take the ladder.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, when's the.

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Speaker 1: Last college quarterback that went to a bottom five NFL

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Speaker 1: franchise and consistently won? Joe Burrow and C. J. Stroud

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Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow has not made the playoffs for three

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Speaker 1: straight years. Right, they can't protect him. Once he got paid,

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Speaker 1: they can't protect him and elevate the roster. And Burrow

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Speaker 1: is a much higher graded prospect than Fernando Mendoza was.

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Speaker 1: So Burrow got to a Super Bowl AFC Championship, took

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Speaker 1: a really bad franchise there, but yet since then he

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Speaker 1: can't even make the playoffs, can't make the playoffs. Andrew

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Speaker 1: Luck again higher prospect than Fernando Mendoza eleven and five,

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Speaker 1: eleven and five, eleven and five, but his career he

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Speaker 1: couldn't beat the good teams and eventually he leaves early.

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Speaker 1: So the Bengals have struggled to protect Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 1: elevate the roster once they pay him, and Andrew Luck

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Speaker 1: they couldn't protect him, and then they're CJ. Stroud, who

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Speaker 1: appears to have regressed. So ask yourself, who are the

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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks that come into this league and win really quickly?

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Speaker 1: See if you notice anything Brock perty Goff, Drake May,

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Speaker 1: Caleb Mahomes, Bo Nicks, Lamar Jackson. Look at their coaches

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Speaker 1: and by the way, John Harbaugh with Lamar Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton Kyle Shanahan golf in year two, pops with McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: May pops in year two with Rabel Caleb, pops in

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Speaker 1: year two with Caleb with Ben Johnson. So I mean, again,

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Speaker 1: is Clint Kubiak a great coach?

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Speaker 3: Could be?

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Speaker 1: And I love Fernando Mendoza, But the truth is, when

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Speaker 1: you read this article, you find the college quarterback, there's

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Speaker 1: like a linear. It's like the ones that work by

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Speaker 1: year two, it's the coach, Like the coach is a

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Speaker 1: huge part of it. So it really boils down to

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Speaker 1: is Clint Kubiak the guy? And you could say, well,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield won a playoff game, he did

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Speaker 1: not win consistently in Cleveland. He wins more consistently in Tampa.

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Speaker 1: But there's a line on the quarterbacks that come in

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Speaker 1: and work. It may not work rookie year. They don't

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Speaker 1: have the right coach, Caleb Williams don't have the right

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Speaker 1: coach initially Jared Goff. Eventually year two gets McVeigh. But

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Speaker 1: you know, it's really really hard. And I'm a Mendoza,

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Speaker 1: but do I think based on the Raiders that he's

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Speaker 1: going to stay in Las Vegas forever? And win a

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Speaker 1: ton of playoff games. He may have the fourth best

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Speaker 1: coach in his own division for a while. I would say, no,

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Speaker 1: I think he's really good. I would draft him. I

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Speaker 1: think he'll elevate the franchise.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, but the two guys that really wanted

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Speaker 1: a high end not for very long, but they won

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Speaker 1: immediately and and won a lot were Burrow and Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 1: Both struggled to get protection. Burl's been hurt a lot

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Speaker 1: and now can't make the playoffs. And Andrew Luck retired

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Speaker 1: early and felt like he was hurt all the time.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I can love somebody, but there's data

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Speaker 1: and history. Here's Clint Kubiak on Mendoza.

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Speaker 12: I saw him play the National Championship game, you know,

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Speaker 12: I I saw the interviews he's given after those games

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Speaker 12: and how team oriented he is. So but I look

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Speaker 12: forward to getting the no player better. But obviously a

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Speaker 12: really talented guy with a bright future. And we'll see,

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Speaker 12: we'll see where it ends up. But we got a

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Speaker 12: lot of work to do to get to know him

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Speaker 12: before before that time.

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Speaker 1: Comes coming up next to top college football coach says

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Speaker 1: we need a CEO badly, that and Daniel Jeremiah comes

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Speaker 1: out and says Mendoza is the only quarterback going in

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Speaker 1: the first round, And I disagree, and I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: why next I heard.

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Speaker 1: So when people say they don't want college football to

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Speaker 1: be like pro football, well that's strange to me because

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Speaker 1: last year, with the NIL and the transfer portal, players

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Speaker 1: getting paid and free agency, that is pro football. And

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Speaker 1: last year, more than any year in the history of

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Speaker 1: the sport, more people watched it. So one of the

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Speaker 1: knocks I've had on college football is that they need

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Speaker 1: to be like the NFL.

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Speaker 3: More like the NFL, better.

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Speaker 1: Playoffs, more even scheduled, and you know, have a commissioner. Well,

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Speaker 1: now finally Mike Elco Texas A and m coach a

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Speaker 1: lot of these college football people, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be the NFL. But he's suggesting like we've suggested, the

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Speaker 1: NFL does a lot right, Like you know, for a

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Speaker 1: billion dollar business has a singular voice, here's Mike elco

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Speaker 1: Texas A and m coach.

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Speaker 6: Put somebody in charge. I think it's a one point

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Speaker 6: two billion dollar industry with not a singular voice in

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Speaker 6: charge of it making decisions for the betterment of college football.

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Speaker 6: And I think until we get that, we're going to

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Speaker 6: continue to flounder with some of those areas. At some

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Speaker 6: point we're going to have to have somebody who's capable

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Speaker 6: of making rules regarding the betterment of college football, enforcement

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Speaker 6: of rules and all of it. And again, until we

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Speaker 6: get that, I think we're all at risk of this

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Speaker 6: thing not lasting like we wanted to last.

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Speaker 1: Why did boxing mostly die and UFC ascend Dana White?

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Speaker 1: For Tita's Dana White, it had a singular voice. So

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Speaker 1: for the I don't want college football to be the NFL.

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Speaker 1: This is essentially what Mike Elko is saying a commissioner.

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Speaker 1: I mean like people saying I don't want college football

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Speaker 1: to be like the pros. It's like saying I want

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Speaker 1: to create a retail business. I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: like Amazon. What innovative efficient top of mind. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: want to own a golf course, but I don't want

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Speaker 1: it to be like Augusta. I don't know, I duplicated

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Speaker 1: if I could. The NFL has better scheduling. It's got

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Speaker 1: a brief free agent period and a trade deadline, and

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Speaker 1: it pays its players, and it's got a commissioner, and

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Speaker 1: it's better for the consumer. You know, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: that the NFL does really really well. They're imperfect, but

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Speaker 1: they're always changing the pat the kickoff, the catch rule.

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Speaker 1: Let's stop pretending the NFL isn't the dominant sport in

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Speaker 1: this country and isn't well run basketball. The NBA right

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Speaker 1: now has some adam silver leadership questions. Baseball for years

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Speaker 1: until the pitch clock, had a lot of leadership issues.

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Speaker 1: Our stuff on the NFL is well. I wish they'd

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Speaker 1: make the officials full time. Okay, they butcher a call

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Speaker 1: every playoff run and it happens. They're human.

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Speaker 3: So I just think college football.

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Speaker 1: This past year, when Indiana beat four straight Top ten teams,

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Speaker 1: that felt like the NFL playoffs. That felt like the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks having to beat the Niners and the Rams and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. College football this year with the playoff felt

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Speaker 1: like the NFL. I mean, Indiana's got to beat Baman

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Speaker 1: and Oregon and Ohio State and Miami and narrowly did

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Speaker 1: on a couple of those games. That's pro football. And

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Speaker 1: a commissioner that Mike Elkole wants. That's pro football, and

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Speaker 1: a playoff system that everybody watched. That's pro football. Nil

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Speaker 1: paying players is pro football. We've got to stop this

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Speaker 1: nonsense that pro football bad, college football just great the

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Speaker 1: way it is not true. Stop manipulating your way to

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Speaker 1: a national championship. Start doing what Indiana did. Play your

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Speaker 1: way to college football Super Bowl. Play your way into it.

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Speaker 1: Line up the good team. Stop manipulating the schedule, getting

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Speaker 1: a buye before this game and a bye before that.

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00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: One and three Cup came akes in September. Get right

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Speaker 1: into conference play immediately, you get one cream Puff Max,

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Speaker 1: get rid of the conference championships, sixteen team playoff twenty

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Speaker 1: four if you have to, Let's not have the committee

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Speaker 1: having any power. The bigger the playoff, the less power

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Speaker 1: the committee has. Don't tell me you're starting to retail

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Speaker 1: business and you don't want it to be anything like Amazon.

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Speaker 1: Then you're an idiot, and if you're trying to fix

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Speaker 1: a lot of college football, take many of the things

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Speaker 1: the NFL does and adopt them. Okay, So Daniel Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: released his first round mock draft, very very good. Fernando Mendoza,

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Speaker 1: quarterback Indiana Raiders, number one. No other quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: entire first round. So this is what he said last

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Speaker 1: week on our show about Ty Simpson from Alabama. Certainly talented,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't think he's a first round quarterback.

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Speaker 13: He's my fortieth player, you know, as we are in

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Speaker 13: the process right now, which I wouldn't look somebody wants

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Speaker 13: taken with the twenty fifth pick. That's not that out

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Speaker 13: of a realm of possibility, and I would think that's

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Speaker 13: not really a reach. He's mechanically sound, he throws a

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Speaker 13: nice ball, he's got touching accuracy. But when bodies get

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Speaker 13: around him, I thought there's times he plays a little small,

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Speaker 13: and then the guy's only started fifteen games and he's

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Speaker 13: been beat up. So those are the negative sides of it.

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Speaker 13: That's why I kind of slot him outside my top

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Speaker 13: thirty two. But if you're the Rams, you got a

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Speaker 13: great offensive line, he doesn't have to step in and

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Speaker 13: play right away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, rams make a lot of sense. Second pick.

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Speaker 1: My take is there are certain things aggressive successful man

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Speaker 1: reach on cars, a new driver, and golf and quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: The car gives you status, the driver gives you length,

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Speaker 1: and the quarterback gives you hope to your meddling owner,

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Speaker 1: somebody's going to reach on him. I mean, there's been

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Speaker 1: a lot less talented guys that have gone in the

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Speaker 1: first round. Ej Manuel Kenny Pickett. I mean he's got

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Speaker 1: a nice arm, he had a good college coach. He

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Speaker 1: didn't have any semblance of a run game to lean on.

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Speaker 1: Do I think he's a big first round talent. I

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Speaker 1: really don't. I think he's like a less athletic Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 1: There's something there. He's certainly a franchise quarterback if he

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Speaker 1: gets decent coaching. I don't see a star. But there's

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Speaker 1: just the NFL gms are aggressive, successful ascending men, often

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Speaker 1: now young men. Somebody's reaching for a new driver, a

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Speaker 1: new car, or a new quarterback. It gives you hope.

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Speaker 1: Your owner's on your butt, your coach on your butt.

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Speaker 1: You're this kid, This is gonna be a new version

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Speaker 1: of us. I do not believe everybody's going to pass

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Speaker 1: on him. I think somebody's gonna We've only had in

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Speaker 1: the last twenty five ish years, we've only had two

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Speaker 1: drafts with only one quarterback, and there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of reaches, and I mean reaches that are far less

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Speaker 1: talented than Ty Simpson. I mean TBO. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: think he was an NFL quarterback. I thought he was

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Speaker 1: more of a tight end. Johnny Manzel wasn't responsible or

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Speaker 1: big enough, mature and went NFL first round quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: didn't get that one. So there is some sort of

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Speaker 1: mythical quality, magical quality to the new car, the new driver,

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Speaker 1: the new quarterback. And my guess is for the record,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah's draft.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting. I think it's a very

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Speaker 1: good first fifteen pick NFL draft. But Ty Simpson's getting

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Speaker 1: wedged into somebody rams have two first round picks. If

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Speaker 1: they get their tackle or if they get their safety.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if they got it. J Mack,

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Speaker 1: you're shaking your head. You also do mock drafts. Where

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Speaker 1: do you have tysonims?

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Speaker 10: I had him first round and then I had Jeremiah

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Speaker 10: listen to his analysis. Here's the interesting thing, Colin, do

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Speaker 10: you think teams are getting smarter with drafting quarterbacks? Remember

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Speaker 10: we had a run of bad quarterbacks in the first round.

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Speaker 10: Look at what's happened in the last two years. Guys

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Speaker 10: are dropping. Tyler Schuck drops second round, Shador drops way down,

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Speaker 10: Jackson dart sneaks in the first. I don't think he's

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Speaker 10: the first. He looked good. And then two years ago

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Speaker 10: we had the loaded class with Caleb and company. I mean,

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Speaker 10: other than JJ McCarthy, all those guys have had moments.

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Speaker 10: Pennock's a bit of a struggle. But I wonder if

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Speaker 10: teams are getting smarter and the more data you receive

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Speaker 10: on these guys is having teams back off because this

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Speaker 10: ty Simpson fifteen starts is that's not great, And there's

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Speaker 10: a lot of history that says those guys usually don't

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Speaker 10: hit in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Right if the feeling with ty Simpson, people keep mentioning

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Speaker 1: the rams because he would not have to play for

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Speaker 1: a minimum of a year. Stafford looks like he's got

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Speaker 1: two good years left. Stafford, I've been told once a

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Speaker 1: multiple year deal, so you wouldn't have to play him

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Speaker 1: for a couple of years. You could do a Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love in Green Bay what they did with Aaron So

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Speaker 1: I think ty Simpson sitting for two years has every

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Speaker 1: chance to succeed. I just know that I'm not a

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Speaker 1: huge fan. I said this during the season. You can

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Speaker 1: talk your way into Ty Simpson, his coach. He didn't

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Speaker 1: ever run game, he played in a great conference. He's

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Speaker 1: got a nice arm. He's got a really nice arm.

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Speaker 1: Not a huge arm, but a nice arm. There's been

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett and a lot of people talk themselves into guys. Well,

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Speaker 1: I didn't get it at all. This one I could get.

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Speaker 1: Hey only takes one Giants love Jackson Dark moved up,

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Speaker 1: only takes one. Nick right around the corner Urban Myers

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Speaker 1: today too,