1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: roll through what should be a really fun day. Eight 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: hundred two A two two eight aay two. We haven't 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: taken that many calls so far this week. We got 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: one guest, Senator Marco Rubio is going to join us 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: at the top of the second hour. Otherwise, you guys 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: can be the co host with us today. So many 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: different interesting perspectives and positions that are out there for 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: many of you to react to. You can load them up. 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: Eight hundred two A two to eight eight two. It 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: is the Friday before Father's Day weekend. We want to 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: make sure that we say Happy Father's Day to all 16 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: of the great dads, granddads, and people who are filling 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: the role of father that may not be otherwise required 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: in any way to be dads. There's lots of people 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: filling that role, whether it be uncles, whether it be cousins, 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: whether it be a lot of moms unfortunately have to 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: fulfill the role of both mom and dad because there 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: are absent fathers out there. Thank you for all the 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: work that you are doing to help raise the next generation. 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: Certainly thanks to my dad, who is the best dad 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: I've ever known, and way better of a dad than 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: I am. But I am up in Oneonta, New York 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: because it is twelve U Little League tournament time in Cooperstown. 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: This is a fabulous little area up here. Buck, I'd 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: never been and spent any time around here at all. 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. I know we have a lot of listeners 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: because I was walking around in Cooperstown yesterday. I'm looking 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: forward to going to the Major League Baseball Hall of 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: Fame and Buck. Three different people on the street came 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: up and said, hey, man, we love the radio show. 35 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: Keep doing what you and Buck are doing, just as 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: I was walking around in Cooperstown. So I'm assuming we 37 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: have a lot of affiliates up here. I know there 38 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: are also people for this Little League tournament. My son's 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: team this weekend plays teams from Utah, Florida, Georgia on 40 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: five different states California over the course of the next 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: several days. So I know there's people from all over 42 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: the country up here, and it is beautiful. It is fantastic. 43 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: I know that you as we roll into Father's Day 44 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: weekend also have a fabulous dad. You would like to 45 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: give a shout out too here as we begin the program. 46 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: Happy Father's Day, Dad, and to all the great fathers 47 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: out there. 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: And you know it, Clay. 49 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: It is one of those things where with New York 50 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: in particular, I think people have this this. 51 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 4: Sense of what the state is. 52 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: You know, when people think of Tennessee, there are certain 53 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: things that come to mind, and it's not that different. 54 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 4: You know, across Tennessee is Tennessee. 55 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: I feel like the vibe or the perception is pretty consistent. 56 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: The difference between being in New York City and its 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: environs versus being up in the Finger Lakes or the 58 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: Hudson Valley or up by the Saint Lawrence River, it 59 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: feels like you're almost in a different country in terms 60 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 3: of just the geography and everything. 61 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned that because I've got my three 62 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: boys and my fifteen year old as we were driving 63 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: into the hotel, was like, Dad, there are Trump flags everywhere, 64 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 2: you know, and and he said, I just never would 65 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: have thought about there being so many Trump supporters in 66 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: New York and I had that conversation with him because 67 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: I think even for a lot of our listeners out there, 68 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: when you hear New York, you think New York City, 69 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: and it's a pinprick of the overall state of New York, 70 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: and there's actually a ton a ton of Trump support basically. 71 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: I know in Staten Island we got a lot of 72 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: people listening right now who are big Trump supporters. And 73 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: I know we've got a lot of Republicans that are 74 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: listening all over the New York City area, Long Island 75 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: and beyond. But up here, Buck, I mean, you might 76 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: as well be driving into Alabama, you know, when you're 77 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: looking at all the different Trump flags. 78 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, the more rural it gets in New York State, 79 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: the more of our people you happen to stumble across. 80 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: That's usually the way it goes. 81 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 82 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: And I had a fabulous retired police officer who was 83 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: driving us to the hotel when we landed up here. 84 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: He was a listener, he said, he, you know, was 85 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: a cop up here for twenty years. And I mean 86 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: he was just talking my year off the whole drive 87 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: in about how much how fired up he is about 88 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: the direction of the country. Anyway, I just want to say, 89 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: people up here have been fabulous, a beautiful place to 90 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: be this time of the year. I'm not a cold 91 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: weather guy, as all of you know, but man, right 92 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 2: this time of year, it is fabulous up here. Now 93 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: it is Father's Day, Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden. On 94 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: the flip side, this is gonna be a transition. 95 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: It can get dark in a hurry. 96 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden not that great of a father so far 97 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 2: as we can tell, particularly not that great of a 98 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: father for the child that he refuses to acknowledge, and 99 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: the child that Joe Biden refuses to acknowledge, and the 100 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: child that Hunter Biden refuses to pay child support for. 101 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: But Buck, we finally are starting just the pen prick, 102 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 2: just the glimmer of aggressiveness showing up in the White 103 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: House press corps. And we got just a smidge of 104 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: that yesterday and by. And it feels like to me, 105 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: and I'm curious if you agree, it feels like to me, 106 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: Biden is starting to wear the stress of some of 107 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: these controversies that have been swirling him for a long time. 108 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: It feels like he is starting to feel that essence 109 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: going on here. And I just want to play this 110 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: because it won't get as much attention as it should 111 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: on CNN or MSNBC, any attention at all, ABC, NBC, CBS. 112 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: But I want you guys to be aware. I believe 113 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: this is a New York Post reporter yesterday at a 114 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: White House UH press event yells out and asks a 115 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: question about the big guy and about Hunter Biden and 116 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: Joe Biden's relationship. 117 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 4: Listen to this question if you. 118 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 2: That may be a little bit hard for some of 119 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: you to hear, so I just want to He's asked 120 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: directly about the FBI and the potential millions of dollars 121 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: in payments that have been going on that allegation, and 122 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 2: Biden says, why'd you ask such a dumb question? Which 123 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: Bucket reminds me a little bit of the way that 124 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: Biden responded. You remember when Peter Deucey asked him about inflation, 125 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: and he's basically insulted Deucey in the way based on 126 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: the question itself, not based on the answer. When you 127 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: are attacking the question, Grandpa, Joe is getting a little 128 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: bit rattled. And I think buck you've made a really 129 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: strong case for a while now that the whole idea 130 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: of Grandpa Joe, this avuncular figure of really easy going 131 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: and likable is one of the great illusions of American 132 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: politics in the last half century. 133 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: Joe Biden has been a sneering, disingenuous jerk his entire 134 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: political career. We could just sit here and play clip 135 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: after clip, SoundBite after SoundBite of Joe Biden at different 136 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: times really going after people, saying grotesquely dishonest things, whatever 137 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: it takes, at any moment that it requires it. That's 138 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: always been the Biden approach to everything. But you've got 139 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: some problems for him right now because there are members 140 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: of Republicans of the House Oversight Committee are looking at Look, 141 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: let me separate these two ideas for a second. With 142 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: ben Ghazi, no matter what during the Bengazi hearings, and 143 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: I was consistent on this many years ago, no matter what, 144 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: there were going to be people who were pointing fingers 145 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: at other people, nobody was going to be held accountable 146 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: because the whole system is designed state departments, you know, 147 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: foreign policy apparatus, so that there really is no accountability. Right, 148 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: Fifty people weigh in on every decision, and the final 149 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: person who makes a decision is a political whether it's 150 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: the Secretary of State in the case of Hillary Clinton, 151 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: or if it's even the president the case of Barack Obama. 152 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: So your only accountability is the ballot box. There's no 153 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: institutional accountability. The Biden problem is very different. It's nobody 154 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: else's fault. There's no finger pointing, there's nothing. When the 155 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: House Overside Committee is looking at did Hunter Biden get 156 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: paid millions of dollars in a bribery scheme? That's very straightforward. 157 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: That's either a did or didn't. Right, that's either a 158 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: red light green light, And so the ability to spend 159 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: this is very limited. What they've been able to do 160 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: up to this point is to suppress, meaning the media 161 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: hasn't been interested in it, Republicans haven't had subpoena power 162 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: to really go after it, and there's only been this 163 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 3: drip of information over time against the machinery at the 164 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: Democrat Party, which is trying to suppress whatever really was 165 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 3: going on here, right, because there's no good outcome for 166 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: them Hunter taking millions of dollars from these companies. The 167 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: more we know about it, the worse it looks. No 168 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: matter what, the question just becomes, what's the degree of criminality? 169 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: Biden knows that at some level, and here's something else 170 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: put out their clay. I think this ties into everything 171 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 3: we are seeing on the Democrat side politically. Biden may 172 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: start to be feeling like, if I become expendable to 173 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: the Democrat machine, I become expendable, meaning that it becomes 174 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: possible to replace me in office with Avenuwsom, Kamala Harris. 175 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: Et cetera. 176 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: Then the whole house of cards may fall down. You 177 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: may reach the point where Biden becomes the Biden family 178 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: has to just take the hit so the Democrat hegemony 179 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: can continue on from the White House, if you get 180 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: what I'm putting down. So I think there's a little 181 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 3: bit of nervousness there. I think there's a little bit 182 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: of if he is not the essential man for the 183 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: Democrats now, I think right now he still is, but 184 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: he probably sees that there are some wins pushing against 185 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: him here. If he becomes somebody Democrats think can be 186 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: replaced the special DOJ legal protections he's had, that all 187 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: just starts to that starts to fade really fast. 188 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Buck, this is why the whole Gavin Newsom 189 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: angle has been so fascinating to me because if you 190 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: consider that in the larger context, it feels like Gavin 191 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: Newsom is kind of circling waiting for the hit to 192 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: be ordered right in some way. And my thought was, 193 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: if they bring charges against Hunter, that is a sign 194 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: that Biden is basically being shuffled off the stage as 195 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: the Democrat. And my thing on this and this is 196 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: this is why the timing becomes so significant. If they 197 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: don't do it Buck until next year, then Kamala has 198 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 2: to be the choice. 199 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 4: Right. 200 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: The later Biden is forced out, the more likely it 201 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 3: is that Kamala has to be the choice. 202 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: Right the vice president just steps up. She is the 203 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 4: standard bear. 204 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: If they could start to force him out, and look, 205 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that they're going he would have to announce, hey, 206 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna run in a Lyndon Johnson style address 207 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: in order for there to be an open primary, because no. 208 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: Time for it, because there's no time for a primary 209 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: for the Democrats though with the system. 210 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 4: That's the part of this that unseas. 211 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe you could make the case that it could, 212 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: but think about what would have to you know that 213 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: that's my that's my thing on it, Buck is Kamala 214 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: is such an awful candidate that Joe Biden has protection 215 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 3: because they don't want her to be the Nether. Okay, 216 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: I need you to do something for me, all right, 217 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: apply the Fetterman rule to Kamala. 218 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 4: Why is it? 219 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: Because I think Kamala on an individual state Fetterman remember 220 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: really does. And this is crazy to me, and and 221 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: I hold all of you in Pennsylvania responsible for this. 222 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: Fetterman's I'm a you know, blue collar white guy thing 223 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: actually works in Pennsylvania. Like a lot of people who 224 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: are in typically Republican areas, they see him walking around 225 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: in the car heart, they see him in the long uh. 226 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: You know, like black work for im. Political for some 227 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: of these it works for some of these guys, and 228 00:11:55,280 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: otherwise red Pennsylvania. Fetterman did really well uh in areas 229 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: that are otherwise Republican strongholders. Let me say this too, 230 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: doctor Oz. 231 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: I love him. We had him on this show, We 232 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: did everything we could for him. 233 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: Doctor Oz doesn't play that well in because I know 234 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: these guys, right, if you're a diehard penn State football 235 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: fan living in rural Pennsylvania, right, like you're a college 236 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: football guy, you're a Steelers fan, Uh, let's say you're 237 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: a suburban you know, like a blue collar guy who 238 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: roots for the Philadelphia Eagles. These are the people I 239 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: talk to all the time in the world of sports. Right, 240 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: Doctor Oz is a little bit too educan. I'm just 241 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: bet a little too educated to elite the crew de 242 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: tay thing like the like I love Doctor Oz. He 243 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: would have been an infinitely better candidate. But the challenge 244 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: is Kamala. Kamala has not that same appeal, even if 245 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: you think it's stupid ridiculous. 246 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: So that's my I hate it. Why you he always 247 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 4: he loves. I convinced now that it's you're not convincing, 248 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: but you forced me to be Kamala's lawyer. 249 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 2: I think I think Kamala might pick Buck Sexton as 250 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: a running mate. I'm just tossing this out there. I 251 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: think Kamala might be a big Buck. Second, this is 252 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: crazy talk. First of all, yes, is she is? She 253 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: uniquely unlikable and a poor Canada. All of that stuff 254 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: is true, but look, she became us. She was the 255 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: senator from California. Democrats just don't care, man, They. 256 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: Just And also, the narrative machinery would just be oh 257 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 3: my gosh, she's the first, the first of all, will 258 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: be the first woman president, which we never talk about anymore. 259 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: She'd be the first woman president, the first black female president. 260 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom is Gavin Newsom gives the slimiest used car 261 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: salesman a bad you know, a bad reputation like this. 262 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: But if you, if you are working in a factory 263 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: in suburban Detroit, you would be willing to have a 264 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: beer with Gavin Newsom and probably get along with him. 265 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: And you'd be willing to have a beer and probably 266 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: get along with John Fetterman with Kamala Harris, those very 267 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 2: starch shirts. 268 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: And his big gleaming smile, and his French laundry Chardona 269 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: drinking buddies and all the. 270 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: Rest of it. I don't think Gavin new you are. 271 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: I mean, this is crazy. 272 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: I almost feel like if it's like we have to 273 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: pick the form of the destructor here for the Democrats, 274 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: you think Gavin Newsom is a much much, sort. 275 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 4: Of more light. 276 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: Now, remember if they were just running independently, you know, 277 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: meaning that they were just going to be two candidates 278 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: that would vie for a either Biden slaughter or it 279 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: could be you know, some point down the line. Yeah, 280 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: I would lean more newsome because of the competency argument, 281 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: But it's she is the vice president. 282 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: The narrative isn't. 283 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: The narrative is easy for them to hammer and and 284 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: I just think that they believe that the machinery I 285 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: bet on the Federman rule for Democrats all day, all night. 286 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: I think that's why I would put as much money 287 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: as I could on the line that Kamala Harris will 288 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: never be elected president of the United States. 289 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: Never elected. Yes, yeah, I'm talking. 290 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: Why I don't think don't make her the nominee that 291 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: because I think they they're taking the next step and saying, 292 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: we got to keep talking about this because I think. 293 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 4: If she Biden steps down, she becomes president. That's how 294 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: this thing works. 295 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: Oh if he wins and no, no, no, I'm talking about 296 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: if he steps down and says he's not running, it 297 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: has to happen this year because otherwise she becomes the 298 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: default nominee next year, right, like they can't replace her. 299 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: If Biden suddenly steps down in June of next year, 300 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: she has to be the nominee. 301 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: I'm saying. If he's saying, she becomes. 302 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: Irrespective if Biden steps down, she becomes the president, and 303 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying he's oh. 304 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Okay. 305 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying that he is going to announce he's not 306 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: running for reelection, not that he's actually stepping down. I'm 307 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: just saying stepping down as the head of the party, 308 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: not as like. 309 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: I think Clay wants to go surfing in Malibu with 310 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: Evil Keanu Reeves. 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Clay Travis 344 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: and Buck Sexton. 345 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 6: I think tense and DeSantis and Nikki Haley are coming 346 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 6: across as like circling buzzards that they waiting get pounce 347 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 6: on his carcasse. The guy's got actually the smartest strategy. 348 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 6: It's put a Republican. It's Ramswami who's saying I'm going 349 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 6: to pardon him. You know, he's pretty clear. It's clear 350 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 6: that Governor Hutchinson, Governor Christie can't stand Trump. 351 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 4: But even if. 352 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 6: Trump gets knocked out by legal reasons or something like that, 353 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 6: still these Republican voters are going to remember who stood 354 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 6: by him and who didn't. 355 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 2: You think it'll hurt Republican candidates who say that they 356 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: wouldn't pardon him if he gets convicted. 357 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 4: It'll hurt and what a large part of the Republican base. 358 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: Yes, the pardon question a big deal. That was James 359 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: Carvill on a clay. Let's come back in a second 360 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: here and open up the lines to everybody what they think. 361 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 2: No doubt, James Carvill and I both brilliant. I think 362 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: whenever I at least on this issue, whenever I travel, 363 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: like now, I missed all of my pillow products I 364 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: have at home, whether it's the Geeza dream sheets, my slippers, 365 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: my pillows, the latest my towels extremely absorbent soft made 366 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: with USA coffe at cotton. Right now you will, for 367 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: a limited time get the six piece towel set on 368 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: clearance for twenty five bucks with our names as the 369 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 2: promo code Clay and Buck. 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You may have 376 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: heard James carvill as we went to break there and Buck. 377 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:07,239 Speaker 2: I think he hit on a direct truth and I 378 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: know he gives credit to Vivik Ramaswami for raising this 379 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: issue associated with pardoning Donald Trump and making it a 380 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: big part of the discussion. But over a month ago 381 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: you and I started talking about on this program, which 382 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: is where I think Vivek and his advisors got this, 383 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: and I give him credit. I mean, you don't copyright ideas. 384 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: If there are good ideas, they should be shared widely, 385 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: in fact, regularly on this program, we will address the 386 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: fact that we have a lot of Senate and Congressional 387 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: members themselves who listen, governors and their staff certainly, and say, hey, 388 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: this is a good talking point, this should be shared. 389 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 2: I think James Carvel's one hundred percent right, and I'd 390 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 2: been making this argument for some time. I think every 391 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: Republican candidate should be saying, I will pardon Donald Trump 392 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: in the event that I win the presidency and take 393 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: the oath of office in January of twenty twenty five. 394 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: Now out there saying, well, Donald Trump's going to be 395 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: the nominee, it doesn't matter. 396 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 4: I get it. 397 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine. If Trump is the nominee, I think 398 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: everybody and wins the presidency. I think everybody out there 399 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: acknowledges buck Trump will pardon himself. This is not a 400 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: moment of dispute. But if you, to me, are attempting. 401 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: And this is what we got into with Mike Pence 402 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: and a big debate that's ricocheted all over the entire 403 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: media ecosystem this week. What we got into a real 404 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: contentious discussion with Mike Pence about was this, to me, 405 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: you have to stand on principle and refuse to allow 406 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: Democrats to put Donald Trump in handcuffs and put him 407 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: in prison for the rest of his lives if that 408 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: situation arise arises, and the fact that you would not 409 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: say that is I think a reason why many of 410 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: you out there would make the choice not to vote 411 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 2: for people like this. 412 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 4: There was a time when Ford pardon Nixon, and it 413 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 4: was widely understood to be and Nixon had he admitted 414 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 4: he had done some things he shouldn't have done, but 415 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 4: that was considered healing and for the benefit of the 416 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 4: country going forward. Now we're in this it feels like 417 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: very different place where we're told it's no big deal 418 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 4: if we throw a former president and current Republican front 419 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: runner into prison for process crimes around around documents. To 420 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: our earlier point, everything has to rise to the level 421 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: of there is a harm, something bad happened, and there's 422 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 4: an understanding of why you would take someone's freedom away, 423 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 4: never mind also ruin their reputation and and uh and 424 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 4: destroy some of their constitutional rights by convicting them as 425 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 4: a felon. And for a lot of people, the politics 426 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 4: of this are just overshadowing whatever the legal arguments may be. 427 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 4: And I think that's why when we talk about the 428 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 4: pardon issue, it's really are you are you on that 429 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 4: or not right? Because you know you could make the case, 430 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 4: for example, January sixth, people Clay to bring it to 431 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 4: that for a moment. By the by. 432 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: Statute, you can come up with ways of saying that they, 433 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: you know, obstructed this or that, and you can give 434 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: them all the maximums. 435 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 4: Is that justice? 436 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: No, that's not justice. They're getting unfairly hit because of 437 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: the politics around January sixth. I'm talking now about some 438 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 3: of the people who are nonviolent and who didn't destroy 439 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 3: even property, but were held in solitary confinement. That's disparate treatment. 440 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 3: And this is where the concept of jury nullification also 441 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: has to come in, which I'm thinking more and more 442 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 3: that there's going to be somebody on this jury in 443 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 3: Florida who's going to realize what all of this is. 444 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: You want to get to some of our folks, though, 445 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 3: because we've got to do it a lot a lot 446 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 3: of calls up here. 447 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 4: Let's do David and Scottsdale, Arizona. David, what do you 448 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 4: got for us? 449 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 5: I'm team play all away. If Joe Biden decides not 450 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 5: to run. 451 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 4: I love Scottsdale Buck. 452 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 5: When he decides not to run, Newsen jumps in. Nobody 453 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 5: likes Camaa at all. Team play all the way. 454 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: Now, this is this is just my theory. 455 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: So just to be clear, you're going to then have 456 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 3: to and I appreciate that that our our last caller 457 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 3: agrees with Clay all this one. Keep in mind, I'm 458 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 3: the one who said that Joe Biden was gonna run 459 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: again and be the nominee and still say that, and 460 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: we'll see where that ends up going. And we have 461 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 3: Bill O'Reilly, Uncle Bill will join us next week, who 462 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: is still it's like he's holding on to that position. 463 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 3: He says, it's still you would have to have the 464 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: first black female and also just you know, separately, the 465 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: first female period president. 466 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 4: Yep, so you're breaking you know, sort of two glass ceilings, 467 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 4: so to speak. 468 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: And you'd run Gavin Newsom to undermine her wild president 469 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 3: because there's no way for Joe Biden to step down 470 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 3: without Kamala being a president. So yeah, that's this is 471 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: the part of it. And you're gonna run some primary, 472 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 3: some slap dash primary. Gavin Newsom has no national infrastructure 473 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 3: Kamala takes over all of the Biden infrastructure immediately. 474 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, folks, I know it sounds cool to people. 475 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 3: This is fantasy land stuff, Okay stuff. What I'm not 476 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: saying that Biden would abandon the office. I'm saying Biden announces, 477 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 3: like Lyndon Johnson, that he will serve out the rest 478 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: of his term, but he will not go You're saying 479 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: he's gonna let it just turn into a a free 480 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: for all, right, And I think then that's what gets 481 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 3: to I agree with you. I think the idea of hey, 482 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 3: we're going to deputize somebody else over the black woman 483 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: who's the vice president is challenging, which is why it 484 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 3: has to take place in the primary. Because remember Democrats 485 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: are the identity politics party, but they picked the oldest, 486 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: whitest guy to ever be the nominee for his party. 487 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: This is crazy. The Democrats are not going to the Democrat. 488 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: The DNC is not going to say we have an 489 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 3: incumbent Democrat, let's get all in on a primary right now. 490 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 4: There is no chance of this. 491 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 3: I think that Biden is going to be forced and 492 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: if he is going to announce that he's not gonna run. 493 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 4: He's definitely running two, by the way, so that's the 494 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 4: other thing. Okay, But if. 495 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 3: He's not gonna run, though, if he announces it next year, 496 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 3: then Kamala has to be the nominee. 497 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: Right. 498 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he steps down and leaves the office, 499 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: because you're right. If they elevate Kamala, then there's no way. 500 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: That's one thing we had. 501 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 3: To established because I'm like, there is absolutely zero I 502 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: agree with Kamala. So let's say if Joe Biden, god forbid, 503 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: health reason, steps down, Folks, it's Kamala. Okay, This Gavin 504 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: Newsom thing that's not gonna happen. There's no way I think. 505 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom would beat her in a primary if we 506 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 2: had an actual primary. 507 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 4: And you're right, he doesn't. 508 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: I think he's got here's my my thesis, Buck, I 509 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: think Gavin Newsom has got an entire network built already 510 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 2: that he could flip the switch on instantaneously to be 511 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: able to run in its Democrat primary if there was 512 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: in his own state. 513 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 4: I got it, I got it. 514 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: I think I think this guy has slicked It's like 515 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 3: he's poisoned your ear with this. 516 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,239 Speaker 4: Okay, So who do you let's step back. 517 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 2: Let's pretend that you got to buy stock in a 518 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 2: Democrat who was going to be elected president, and you 519 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: got let's say five to one payoff. Who is the 520 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: better candidate for you to buy stock in. It's not 521 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 2: that I think Gavin Newstom is amazing. It's that I don't. 522 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 2: I think the Democrats have a really weak pinch. Are 523 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: you gonna go with Pritzker? Are you gonna go with 524 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: Warren or. 525 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 7: Berk or so? 526 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 4: There's multiple multiple tiers here. 527 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: First of all, by making me do this Democrat analysis, 528 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 3: this is like my pole question, would you rather be 529 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: eaten by a shark, an alligator or muled by a bear? 530 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 4: Right? 531 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: Like this is I'm just saying, you've got money at stake, 532 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: you get five to one payout if you are right 533 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: as to who the next Democrat to be elected is 534 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: off the table. I'll go down mind and no, We're 535 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: gonna open this up the calls, because I'm sure a 536 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 3: lot of people feel very passionately about this this topic. 537 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 4: Eight hundred two A two two eight A two. 538 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: I have been consistent now for whatever it is two years, 539 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: Joe Biden will be the Democrat nominee in twenty twenty four. Okay, 540 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: so put that and I have not moved off that. 541 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: We're we're taking him off the table, off the table. 542 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: So now we're doing what Mike Penn said he would 543 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 3: not do, which is hypotheticals. 544 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 4: Yes, so we're talking just hide. 545 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: The way most of politics is all hypotheticals, and every 546 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 2: political campaign is entirely a hypothetical because it's all about 547 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 2: what you would do if you happen to win, which 548 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: is why that I don't do hypotheticals, and a campaign is. 549 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 3: So dumb for I just purposes. Yes, I just you know, 550 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: bring up the name Pence and Clay. Also, I'm still 551 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: fired up about this guy. Clay's like looking for oh 552 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: Man anyway. Okay, So on the Kamala thing, I'll put 553 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 3: this out there to you. If if Kamala Harris between 554 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 3: now and twenty twenty four were doing any way ascend 555 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: to the office of the President, the chance of the 556 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 3: Democrats trying to change that for the election I views 557 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: as almost effectively zero. 558 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 4: Okay, we don't disagree there. 559 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: If the Democrats were willing now, so now we're getting 560 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: at a third level analysis. If they were willing to say, 561 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 3: you know, what let's just have they made the best 562 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 3: man or woman wins situation. Biden's too old. I you know, look, 563 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom is obviously a better politician than Kamala Harris is. 564 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 3: But identity politics are very powerful the Democrats. You know, 565 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 3: there there, I start to feel like more like a 566 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 3: coin flip. But I also think the chance of the 567 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: Democrats doing that the power of the incumbency, which unfortunately 568 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: Republicans have kind of lost sight of a little bit 569 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 3: because of what happened in twenty twenty. Right, it was 570 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: that was a big shock. The power of the incumbency 571 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 3: is massive. And this is also why I've said as 572 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: much as RFK Junior, RFK Junior, we haven't even had 573 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 3: him on talking about this. I love what he says 574 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: on COVID, which we both do. I love what he's 575 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: saying about the border. We talked about a little bit. 576 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: I think you were actually out for dere too. I'm like, okay, 577 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: so now he's now he's talking all the sweet things 578 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: about COVID and about the border. Democrats are gonna they're 579 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: gonna undermine him with the machinery of the actual election 580 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: process and getting on ballots and have you know in 581 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: every way they can. There's no chance, am I wrong? 582 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: Let's see eight hundred two two eight A two. See 583 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: what the folks think out there. And remember we got 584 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: Marco Rubio joining with me. You know we should we 585 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: should ask the Senator how he sees this playing out too. 586 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: I think that would be interesting. Okay, Look, if your 587 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 3: job requires you to spend a lot of time on 588 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: the computer, you know how finicky that device can become 589 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: as strong and sturdy as they seem to be. Well, 590 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: you could put thousands of hours without incident on it, 591 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: but then one day, yikes, there's that panic. 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Here can 613 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: ask him play if Clay, you could ask him your 614 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 3: your favorite question if you like about the pardon issue, 615 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: whether he agrees that that's something that should be but 616 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: we're gonna be nice. 617 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 4: We're gonna be nice. Well, he's not running for president, 618 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 4: so it's a different I will not. 619 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: Scream at Marco Rubio no matter what his answer is 620 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: on that, I will pledge to you it is like 621 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: angry president and he's wrong, then I might have or 622 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 2: he tries to dodge answering. He could say yes or no, oh, 623 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: but don't tell me like oh, it's a hypothetical. An 624 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: entire presidential campaign is a hypothetical. 625 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 4: Buck that that that is true? All right, we got 626 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 4: a bunch of calls. Let's get to it. 627 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: Karen in Nassau County, New York. Oh, nice, NASA. What's 628 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: going on? 629 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 5: Karen? Oh? 630 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 7: Hi claim? 631 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 5: Buck? 632 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 7: How are you good to speak to you? 633 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 4: Fantastic? 634 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 7: So I have a question. Let's say Trump cannot run 635 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 7: for president if he gets convicted got to bid or 636 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 7: something like that, and a Republican president not only will 637 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 7: pardon him, but what would he be eligible. Let's say 638 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 7: if they decide to make him a cabinet member or 639 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 7: appoint him like an ambassadorship or something, would he still 640 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 7: be eligible for that? Uh? 641 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 4: You mean if he's a convicted felon. It's a great question. 642 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: I can tell you, Karen, there is a zero percent 643 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: chance that Donald Trump would accept a cabinet position or 644 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: any other role other than president in anybody else's you know, campaign. 645 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm not sure legal I think he would be able 646 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 2: to serve in that role. But Bucker, you agree with 647 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: me there's a zero percent chance Trump would accept anything 648 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: other than presidency. 649 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: Yes, this zero that I would tell me agree that, 650 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: Bet would have to be on that one. Thank you 651 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: for calling in appreciate you out in Nasau County, and 652 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: I'd say this Clay on the You know. One thing 653 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: that was always amazing to me was early on in 654 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 3: my career, we go through all this training and all 655 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: this background check to get a security clearance. If Hunter Biden, 656 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden, if Hunter Biden got elected to be United 657 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: hu memory, he hasn't been convicted of any felony right now, 658 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 3: any or anything not that that really matters. But if 659 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 3: he got elected and then got put on the House 660 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: or the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, he gets an 661 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: automatic clearance just because of the will of the people. 662 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 3: So you can be a mess who has accepted millions 663 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 3: of that like you could be somebody who would be 664 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: excluded from the most rudimentary background check in five minutes 665 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,479 Speaker 3: from getting a security clearance if you win an election. 666 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: The people have spoken, that's the way that it goes. 667 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: Billy in Virginia Beach, what's going on. 668 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: Billy, Hey, how y'all doing. 669 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 4: We're good sir, that's on your mind, all right? 670 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: So it seems like the Democrats are in a pickle. 671 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: They really don't want Joe Biden to run just because 672 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: he's got a decent chance of losing, not that popular. 673 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: They can't. They don't want Kamala to run as president 674 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: because she's got a good chance of run. She's she 675 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: has a good chance of losing. They don't want a 676 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: primary because that's just a big mess. So why don't 677 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: the powers that be let Joe Biden and Kamala Harris 678 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: get the nomination, then go to Joe Biden and say, look, 679 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: this isn't gonna happen. You're not gonna win. Make him 680 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: or suggest to him to drop out. So then before 681 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: the convention, let the convention pick who they want, like 682 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: a Gavin Newsom or somebody like that. 683 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: It's an interesting question, Buck. My thing is and and 684 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: and maybe this is why I'm saying the Gavin Newsom 685 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: angle so much. The only way I think Joe Biden 686 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: gets forced out is if the Democrats decide that he 687 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: is not going to win. And I think he's way 688 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: better than Kamala. And to your point, the power of 689 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: the incumbency is such that it would be hard for 690 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 2: him not to be the nominee. Right in general, as 691 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 2: you break all that down, so I think that becomes 692 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: the biggest challenge as you sort of analyze this, let 693 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: me take John in Evans, Georgia as we continue it's 694 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: open line Friday, eight hundred and two eight two two 695 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 2: eight eight two John, what you got for us? 696 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 5: Hey, guys, do a great job. 697 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: We missed so Rush every day. We'll try to hear 698 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: you out there every day keeping it going. 699 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 4: Thank you. 700 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: Building on the hypothycle which I know you really want 701 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: to do. To Buck's point about identity politics, politics inside 702 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party, what if Biden medically steps down and 703 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: twenty fifth Amendment kicks in, Kamala gets her bite at 704 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: it with the agreement from under the tent, a big, deep, dark, 705 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: smokey room Democrat Party politics. But she's not gonna run, 706 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: so they get to check No. 707 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 4: Zero these are interesting. 708 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 2: There's a zero percent chance if Kamala ends up the 709 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 2: ends up elevated to presidency that she would not run. 710 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: I think we'd agree on that one too, Buck, Yeah, there's. 711 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 4: No you have to remember. 712 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 3: Look, it's I think part of this clay, like we 713 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 3: you know with the John saying, is we have normal, ethical, 714 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 3: well grounded people listening to the show and calling in. Yes, 715 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 3: you're talking to some of these Democrat politicians. I mean, 716 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 3: think think of the Hillary Clinton mindset. There is a 717 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: hole in their soul that is only filled by political power. 718 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 4: That is it. 719 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing else, there's nothing else that excites them, 720 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: There's nothing else that they really care about. There is 721 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 3: a hole in their soul and politics and power is 722 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 3: what fills it. So yeah, Kamala, Gavin, this is why there. 723 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 3: They'll all, they'll all put themselves through it if they can, 724 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 3: if they think they can win. 725 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 4: She would not, she would at all. She's ruthless. 726 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom's people, they're talking with our people. He may 727 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: come on the show, and more power to him if 728 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: he does. 729 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 4: But Buck, you know. 730 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: What that continues to put forward. He talked to Sean Hannity. 731 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 2: He comes on this show, he wants to continue to 732 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: circle and set up the possibility. I think you might 733 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 2: end up being the m M A ref on that one, 734 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: my friend. If Newsom comes in here and tries any 735 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: of that Cammy nonsense, but will be polite, will be 736 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 2: polite 737 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 4: But head out to French laundry and have some nice wine.