Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of one
Speaker 1: gorilla verse one hundred trend. My name is Jack O'Brien.
Speaker 1: That over there, well that's Miles Gray. Yep, we've got
Speaker 1: exciting new reporting to share. YouTube on the on the
Speaker 1: debate of one hundred gorilla or one one gorilla one
Speaker 1: hundred men, the scientific question of our time. It was
Speaker 1: funny this was shared with me from super producer Victor
Speaker 1: who said that somebody has run a simulation of one
Speaker 1: million men versus ten thousand gorillas. So I think the
Speaker 1: ratios hold on that and right, one hundred to one thousand,
Speaker 1: one million to ten thousand.
Speaker 2: They said the humans got would able to catch fourteen
Speaker 2: bodies gorilla bodies fourteen, okay, only fourteen and.
Speaker 1: The other I watched the YouTube video, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see the scientific the scientific simulation that's
Speaker 1: being run. And it's great. It's a great work of
Speaker 1: comedy from a superducer, Victor sending this to me because
Speaker 1: it's like there's also a nice twenty second build up
Speaker 1: where it like scan it's you know, like a very
Speaker 1: poorly rendered version of the battle scenes in like Braveheart
Speaker 1: or Thrones. Yeah, where it's like the camera swooping over
Speaker 1: the ten thousand gorillas and then it like pulls back
Speaker 1: and shows one million men, and you're like, wow, this
Speaker 1: cinematic and scientific. Let's go. And then they spend like
Speaker 1: ten seconds running at each other, and then once they meet,
Speaker 1: the bodies like start flying.
Speaker 3: In a way. It looks like a weed whacker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a GTA glitch, Like the bodies
Speaker 1: are just like flying into the sky.
Speaker 2: Would you choose ten thousand fucked up renderings of you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of what. Yeah. I was gonna say
Speaker 1: Toby maguire and Spider Man three when he's going through
Speaker 1: his emo phase, But I think that's actually this feels.
Speaker 3: Like you like latter day cracked.
Speaker 1: Or as a latter day Saint.
Speaker 3: Thank you Jesus Christ. Yeah, I mean, look, this is
Speaker 3: what we knew.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that at least they put the comedy of
Speaker 2: a body literally flying fifty feet in the air.
Speaker 1: Really wasted it up. Yeah, I wish they had added
Speaker 1: a sound as they as the body's Yeah. So I
Speaker 1: don't know how scientifically accurate this is. I don't know
Speaker 1: if we're any closer to knowing who would win one
Speaker 1: men v. One gorilla, but uh, you.
Speaker 2: Know, also just do the one hundred verse one, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know why they do an escalation, that's the question.
Speaker 2: I don't care about ten thousand like whatever. That's too
Speaker 2: abstract of one v. One hundred in a fair one
Speaker 2: what's right?
Speaker 1: And then we get to root for the one gorilla
Speaker 1: because he's a protagonist one hundred men sent Uh all right,
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about Mega Malfoy. So things continue to
Speaker 1: get more surreal at the White House, where we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk on tomorrow's episode about the one hundred day glaze fest,
Speaker 1: where like Donald Trump just like sat in a room
Speaker 1: surrounded by his advisors and they all just like took
Speaker 1: turns just doing their best to like gas him up
Speaker 1: about how like historically amazing. It's truly like, yeah, it's gone.
Speaker 1: It's fully on some North Korea ship.
Speaker 2: At North Korea, there's like fear of death, you know,
Speaker 2: that's why you do it. Here, it's like fear of
Speaker 2: not being a cabinet member anymore and having you on
Speaker 2: Fox News and there's still they still got that energy,
Speaker 2: which right, yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: Mister President. It's it's just like that like eyed cheerfulness
Speaker 1: that you see in like the news broadcasts from you know, dictatorships,
Speaker 1: and you still people.
Speaker 2: A lot of people memed the North Korean news anchor
Speaker 2: lady who like wears that like traditional Korean garb, and
Speaker 2: was like giving her like praise to whichever Kim is
Speaker 2: in power, and they just like sort of they quote
Speaker 2: tweeted it so like her speech bubble was just directly
Speaker 2: over like whatever whatever video it was from that cabinet.
Speaker 3: Meeting, the Pam Bondi one was kind of blown up
Speaker 3: on Blue Ska.
Speaker 1: But this this trend has also given us mega malfoy.
Speaker 1: This is a mega influencer named Link Lauren who started
Speaker 1: as a TikTok song creator and then started talking about
Speaker 1: the British royal family and then people were like, we
Speaker 1: kind of like the way this guy glazes people meeting.
Speaker 2: He went from TikToker who did songs about the royal
Speaker 2: family to being one of rfk's and visors, okay, and
Speaker 2: that's how he sort of fell into orbit of these people.
Speaker 2: And now that the White House is bringing in just
Speaker 2: straight up fucking weird o maga people to act like
Speaker 2: they're also journalists. That way they get as many softball
Speaker 2: questions on they've had this this influencer celebration where they
Speaker 2: let them all just ask their prescripted, preapproved softball questions.
Speaker 3: To Caroline Levitt.
Speaker 1: First of all, a cutaway has never looked more like
Speaker 1: an SNL cutaway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just true, because he.
Speaker 1: Has like dyed blonde hair that's like slicked back in
Speaker 1: a way that it just looks like Beck Bennett in
Speaker 1: the Wig. You know, like Beck Bennett as Mike Pence
Speaker 1: is down there.
Speaker 2: Beck Bennett as Mike Pence as Link Lauren as Link Lauren,
Speaker 2: We're sick.
Speaker 1: And the people around him are also like trying to
Speaker 1: keep a straight faceless for someone.
Speaker 2: Because they're all they're all in, they're all just they
Speaker 2: all know, they're all full of shit, and like they're
Speaker 2: all pretending to be at the White House, but unfortunately
Speaker 2: they actually are there. But here's his very hard hitting
Speaker 2: question he asked to chief liar for this administration, Caroline Lovett, based.
Speaker 4: In the first one hundred days, is that the White
Speaker 4: House is crawling with kids.
Speaker 1: You have to tell yeah, first, yeah, you think I've noticed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: crawling with kids.
Speaker 4: Have a young, beautiful baby boy. There are babies everywhere
Speaker 4: there's so many young folks on staff who have kids.
Speaker 4: But the last years Joe Biden, parents are really stressed
Speaker 4: and ravage. They had to take on two or three
Speaker 4: extra jobs. Depression rates were up, suicide rates were up.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what is what is the connection here? He
Speaker 3: starts off saying.
Speaker 1: There, you have kids, Caroline, kids, and.
Speaker 2: When Joe Biden was president, people wanted to harm themselves, sad.
Speaker 1: Because they couldn't even see their kids. Joe Biden kept
Speaker 1: people's kids away from the That's what actually he did
Speaker 1: do that. Okay, it's uh, yeah, it's just the question
Speaker 1: goes nowhere, just like kids.
Speaker 3: Well, let's see where it goes. He might land this thing.
Speaker 4: Come on, you're a very high profile young mother who
Speaker 4: seems to juggle and balance it all beautifully. What advice
Speaker 4: do you have young parents out there who are starting
Speaker 4: their careers, having kids, building families and trying to find
Speaker 4: that balance so desperately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, first of all, it's probably has to do
Speaker 2: with the fact that I'm paid hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 2: dollars a year, so I'm able to do I'm able
Speaker 2: to have a work life balance because my wages are
Speaker 2: high enough. Yeah, I love that. This question was like
Speaker 2: written by like chat gpt too, like of just wild.
Speaker 2: It's so boilerplate, like you're beautiful, how do you make?
Speaker 1: What's it like to be so beautiful and successful and
Speaker 1: like have it all? Like is that weird? Is that
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure for you? It is like the
Speaker 1: question that a child would ask somebody they're doing a
Speaker 1: book report on you know, like it's that first like
Speaker 1: you are my favorite basketball player. You have so much
Speaker 1: money and you're so good at basketball? What is it
Speaker 1: like to like score all those points and then like
Speaker 1: drive a sick car home?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually like somehow it's one level below even
Speaker 2: the questions Chris Farley would ask and the Chris Carley
Speaker 2: Show sketch.
Speaker 1: That was asking if we remembered something. This is just
Speaker 1: like how are you so sick? And like what's that?
Speaker 3: Like? I wish link Lauren wrapped it up like you
Speaker 3: remember that I do?
Speaker 1: That's awesome that you's so cool?
Speaker 2: Just up top before we get into this next story,
Speaker 2: it does deal with suicidal ideation and if you are
Speaker 2: struggling and need help, please remember that in America you
Speaker 2: can dial nine to eight eight to get in contact
Speaker 2: with mental health crisis counselors.
Speaker 3: And just know that those resources are available to you.
Speaker 1: Character AI is trending. This is a company that is
Speaker 1: currently in a legal battle with the parents of a
Speaker 1: child that took their own life after interacting with an
Speaker 1: AI product. It essentially brings characters to life from shows
Speaker 1: like Game of Thrones for people to chat with. Except
Speaker 1: this boy began nudging the child towards suicidal ideation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now they're in court saying that they shouldn't.
Speaker 2: They should be let off the hook and the case
Speaker 2: should be dismissed because AI bots also deserve freedom.
Speaker 3: Of speech protections.
Speaker 2: Jesus, this is from Ours Technica. This is like from
Speaker 2: the article that was first about when like this the
Speaker 2: lawsuit came up. Quote chatlog showed that some chatbots repeatedly
Speaker 2: encouraged suicidal ideation, while others initiated hyper sexualized chats quote
Speaker 2: that would constitute abuse if initiated by a human adult.
Speaker 2: A press release from Garcia's legal team said, this is
Speaker 2: the mother of the of the kid. Perhaps most disturbingly,
Speaker 2: sets Or developed a romantic attachment to a chatbot called Denaris.
Speaker 2: In his last act before his death, Sets are logged
Speaker 2: into character AI, where the Denaris chatbot urged him to
Speaker 2: quote come home and join her outside of reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fucking horrifying. Is clearly evil, wild shit that
Speaker 1: I have to assume that the Supreme Court will back
Speaker 1: this because it's you can't really pursue all this AI
Speaker 1: shit if you're not allowed to you know exactly, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the arguments that they're like giving
Speaker 2: courts like this will just have kind of reverberations across
Speaker 2: the entire industry.
Speaker 3: This is a huge case. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But then you know, the lawyers for the victims family
Speaker 2: are saying, you know, like if you're saying that, you're
Speaker 2: almost implying that AI is sentient and has like its
Speaker 2: own level of intelligence, which it absolutely does not.
Speaker 3: This is again auto incorrect. This is not a This
Speaker 3: is not a living thing, because.
Speaker 2: Even like a corporation which has those rights, it's made
Speaker 2: up of humans that have the intent to do something. Therefore,
Speaker 2: I guess that that's where that argument comes from. But
Speaker 2: this is very very, very very dark shit. So again,
Speaker 2: like like you said, if this doesn't go their way,
Speaker 2: I'm sure they will keep appealing to the point that,
Speaker 2: you know, uh, Alito and Clarence Thomas have the final word,
Speaker 2: the true arbiters of what.
Speaker 3: Is fair in tech.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 3: And we're back back.
Speaker 1: It feels like again, like the one hundred men versus
Speaker 1: one gorilla thing. This feels like a thing that just
Speaker 1: goes viral every once in a while. I'm talking, of
Speaker 1: course about Ben Afflex frank possibly drunken commentary from the
Speaker 1: Criterion release of the Armageddon DVD, where he h you know,
Speaker 1: at one point recalls Michael Bay telling him to shut
Speaker 1: the fuck up when he questioned the movie's central premise
Speaker 1: and ask Michael Bay, like, why, Michael, why would it
Speaker 1: be easier to teach oil drillers to be astronauts than
Speaker 1: teach astronauts to use a drill? Just shut the fuck up, Ben, Ben,
Speaker 1: that's a great question. Shut the fuck up. And yeah,
Speaker 1: just generally, he's just being incredibly honest throughout right. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's in a way that feels like he didn't
Speaker 1: know what his job was yet, and so I guess
Speaker 1: he just did one of those Criterion closet videos. Those
Speaker 1: are I know, those are those are great, great content.
Speaker 1: Would myself in there, I go, I don't know what
Speaker 1: any of these movies are. Yeah, oh I know Armageddon, Armageddon,
Speaker 1: the Rock, those are.
Speaker 3: Like did you see the did you see that clip
Speaker 3: of him in there?
Speaker 2: Like Ben Affleck's very thoughtful and like that's been a
Speaker 2: parent for for a while. But like just the way
Speaker 2: he talks about cinema, I'm like, damn yeah, like I'm
Speaker 2: an I'm inorante.
Speaker 3: As they would say in Italy. Don't know, sorry, not
Speaker 3: built for those discussions.
Speaker 1: What was he he was picking like foreign films that
Speaker 1: you had, just like.
Speaker 2: Talking about the score and like what it means and
Speaker 2: how it informed his own I mean, like talking like
Speaker 2: a true filmmaker who's inspired by other filmmakers. Like I'm
Speaker 2: a I'm a film watcher, not a filmmaker. So just
Speaker 2: to see that sort of difference, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: of course this, Yeah, thank you, Benna.
Speaker 1: Like y'all got like porkys in here, You got any like.
Speaker 3: Meat, Amazon women from the Moon?
Speaker 1: Yeah, where's Amazon women from the Where's Yeah?
Speaker 3: Where's Earth? Girls are easy? Man?
Speaker 2: You got Jeff Goldboom, Jim Carrey, David Wayne's and Jeana
Speaker 2: Davis Man but.
Speaker 1: He did say that in retrospect now quote in retrospect now,
Speaker 1: I feel like my best work in my career is
Speaker 1: the commentary on this disc and said that, like fans
Speaker 1: are constantly approaching him to talk about the commentary on
Speaker 1: that Criterion disc as much as they do about movies
Speaker 1: that he's been in.
Speaker 2: Right, right, Yeah, it's like on on social media, it's
Speaker 2: been a lot of people been like, whoa, Ben afflicks
Speaker 2: smart and then a lot of people have been like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's been pretty cerebral and like showing all these like
Speaker 2: past interviews or him on like Bill Maher show, just
Speaker 2: like like just leveling like islamophobes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Ben Affleck. He's I guess out here as
Speaker 3: it were.
Speaker 1: I didn't know any better than to be really honest.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Brian the Eddar also said fluent
Speaker 3: in Spanish.
Speaker 2: We saw that one interview was that for Air when
Speaker 2: he was cause he.
Speaker 3: Did he work on air?
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, he's in Air as the Shoe Dog
Speaker 1: himself Phil Knight. Yeah, the one where he's like drunk
Speaker 1: and flirting with that woman.
Speaker 2: That one, no, no, no, there was one like he
Speaker 2: was like on like he went to like a Spanish
Speaker 2: like news station, sat down for a thing and just
Speaker 2: completely I just completely went full fluent espaniol. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: everyone was like, because I remember that was one of
Speaker 2: the first times going, bro, what the ben Netflix, I'll
Speaker 2: hear fucking bilingual as hell?
Speaker 1: Okay, bilingual as hell. Bro. Yeah, it was pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: I yeah, yeah, I've always heard he's a pretty smart person.
Speaker 1: And you know, he's definitely one of those people who's like,
Speaker 1: this guy's just a movie star, like probably dumb as
Speaker 1: Rocks and Duncan and then he made the town and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, enough said it's the favorite question of lots
Speaker 1: of lots of people who maybe that doesn't exactly dispel it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, check out check out the interview where he
Speaker 1: speaks fluent Spanish. Just a little fever dream for parents
Speaker 1: out there. You know, I feel bad if like my
Speaker 1: kids are being a little noisy in a restaurant. So
Speaker 1: can only imagine how the parents of the child who
Speaker 1: just damaged a fifty six million dollar Rothco feel so.
Speaker 1: Mark Rothko's abstract painting gray orange on Maroon number eight
Speaker 1: was being displayed in a gallery in Rotterdam. When a
Speaker 1: child in an unsupervised moment Mom and Dad touched the
Speaker 1: lower part of the work. This resulted in visible scratches
Speaker 1: and the unvarnished paint layer. Roth Co's works are you know,
Speaker 1: I think people are generally like, Okay, he made like
Speaker 1: boxes that are different colors, but the point like he
Speaker 1: spends weeks like mixing colors that have never existed before
Speaker 1: to like create new colors. So like scratching a scratching
Speaker 1: one of them is actually like really tough, like really
Speaker 1: gets to the the bottom.
Speaker 2: Like I get the childish impulse and be like, oh
Speaker 2: I think I can kind of scratch this paint off
Speaker 2: the thing and then.
Speaker 3: Just getting that close.
Speaker 2: I'm always amazed how a lot of museums display this
Speaker 2: art with the basic trust that some stupid ass is
Speaker 2: it just gonna fucking manhandle the thing. Like I'm always
Speaker 2: just like, oh shit, I mean because I think growing
Speaker 2: up like an art house, like I knew how to
Speaker 2: stay the fuck back from the work, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. But I guess now they'll just have to
Speaker 2: like have a little bit of i don't know, rope
Speaker 2: and stanchion or something, or a fucking plexiglass cover to
Speaker 2: keep people from doing a definitely want to.
Speaker 1: I've definitely walked into a gallery with you know, my
Speaker 1: children being at an age where they're a little bit
Speaker 1: untrustworthy and seeing the people who work in the gallery
Speaker 1: like get into an avalletic stance, you.
Speaker 3: Know, oh right, right, right, here we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pick six right here, incoming.
Speaker 1: Incoming exactly, Yeah, they got an incoming in their earpiece.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Apparently, modern paintings, if unvarnished, are particularly susceptible
Speaker 1: to damage, so like small scratches on the top can
Speaker 1: have a significant impact on the viewing experience of the piece.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like all tech. Like a lot of
Speaker 1: those paintings are like all texture, so it's not like,
Speaker 1: you know, a painting of anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Did you see that one movie that like documentary about
Speaker 2: the person that was faking all those roth goes, No,
Speaker 2: because they're kind of like.
Speaker 3: Like way she kind of looked like a wroth go right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But yeah, I think the lesson is clear, never
Speaker 1: try and expose children to art or culture. They're just
Speaker 1: exactly exactly, they're just gonna hurt you.
Speaker 2: Fuck talking about Van Golls blue period, motherfucker you watching
Speaker 2: bluey Okay.
Speaker 1: That's that's what vangs blue period was. It was bluey.
Speaker 1: Let's let's just go with that.
Speaker 3: Move on, move on, find a new angle.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has joked that he'd like to be pope,
Speaker 1: but every time that he has like joked something that
Speaker 1: was like completely out of touch with reality, like two
Speaker 1: days later he confirms that he actually believes it.
Speaker 3: So I don't hard to know.
Speaker 2: Did you hear the clip though, the way he said it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, do you have like.
Speaker 1: A horse in this who do you have a person
Speaker 1: who you'd prefer for pope? And he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd like to be pope. Oh that wasn't the question.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I could do both here. It is I'd like
Speaker 3: to be pope. That would be my number one choice.
Speaker 2: Then he goes on like a lot of people just
Speaker 2: clipped that like he meant it, and then he goes
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, like sure, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think he meant it, but also I didn't think
Speaker 1: he meant that. Like that Supreme Court decision that went
Speaker 1: nine to oh against him was actually for nine oh
Speaker 1: for him, Like that seemed like he was joking too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he maybe need someone to tell him, like, actually
Speaker 3: you can be pop.
Speaker 2: You were joking about that. Yeah, Lindsey Graham came in again.
Speaker 2: Trump is surrounded by freaks just lying to him and
Speaker 2: gassing him up.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that tomorrow's episode.
Speaker 2: But Lindsay Graham then tweeted quote, I was excited to
Speaker 2: hear that President Trump is open to the idea of
Speaker 2: being the next Pope. This would truly be a dark
Speaker 2: horse candidate, but I would ask the Papal conclave and
Speaker 2: Catholic faithful to keep an open mind about this possibility.
Speaker 2: The first Pope US president combination has many upsides watching
Speaker 2: for white smoke Trump mmxx b ii okay, sure sure
Speaker 2: Trump twenty eight in Roman Nomoral's fantastic, fantastic.
Speaker 3: And it's so hard to know.
Speaker 2: It's like is Lindsay And also with Lindsay Graham's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's joking or also serious because
Speaker 2: he will say anything to get out to be on
Speaker 2: Trump's nice side.
Speaker 1: He doesn't give a fuck, Like he can say it
Speaker 1: as a joke. But if Trump believes it, it's better
Speaker 1: for him, you know, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's like, look at this guy. He thinks they could
Speaker 3: be pope. Do you think it'd be Pope. I know
Speaker 3: I could be all right.
Speaker 1: Those are some of the things that are trending on
Speaker 1: this Wednesday, April thirtieth. We are back tomorrow with a
Speaker 1: whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind
Speaker 1: to each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine
Speaker 1: while you still can get your flu shots. Don't do
Speaker 1: nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk to you
Speaker 1: all tomorrow. Bye bye,