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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of one

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Speaker 1: gorilla verse one hundred trend. My name is Jack O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: That over there, well that's Miles Gray. Yep, we've got

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Speaker 1: exciting new reporting to share. YouTube on the on the

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Speaker 1: debate of one hundred gorilla or one one gorilla one

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Speaker 1: hundred men, the scientific question of our time. It was

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Speaker 1: funny this was shared with me from super producer Victor

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Speaker 1: who said that somebody has run a simulation of one

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Speaker 1: million men versus ten thousand gorillas. So I think the

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Speaker 1: ratios hold on that and right, one hundred to one thousand,

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Speaker 1: one million to ten thousand.

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Speaker 2: They said the humans got would able to catch fourteen

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Speaker 2: bodies gorilla bodies fourteen, okay, only fourteen and.

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Speaker 1: The other I watched the YouTube video, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm interested to see the scientific the scientific simulation that's

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Speaker 1: being run. And it's great. It's a great work of

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Speaker 1: comedy from a superducer, Victor sending this to me because

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Speaker 1: it's like there's also a nice twenty second build up

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Speaker 1: where it like scan it's you know, like a very

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Speaker 1: poorly rendered version of the battle scenes in like Braveheart

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Speaker 1: or Thrones. Yeah, where it's like the camera swooping over

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Speaker 1: the ten thousand gorillas and then it like pulls back

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Speaker 1: and shows one million men, and you're like, wow, this

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Speaker 1: cinematic and scientific. Let's go. And then they spend like

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Speaker 1: ten seconds running at each other, and then once they meet,

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Speaker 1: the bodies like start flying.

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Speaker 3: In a way. It looks like a weed whacker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a GTA glitch, Like the bodies

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Speaker 1: are just like flying into the sky.

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Speaker 2: Would you choose ten thousand fucked up renderings of you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of what. Yeah. I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: Toby maguire and Spider Man three when he's going through

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Speaker 1: his emo phase, But I think that's actually this feels.

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Speaker 3: Like you like latter day cracked.

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Speaker 1: Or as a latter day Saint.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Jesus Christ. Yeah, I mean, look, this is

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Speaker 3: what we knew.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that at least they put the comedy of

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Speaker 2: a body literally flying fifty feet in the air.

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Speaker 1: Really wasted it up. Yeah, I wish they had added

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Speaker 1: a sound as they as the body's Yeah. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know how scientifically accurate this is. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if we're any closer to knowing who would win one

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Speaker 1: men v. One gorilla, but uh, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, also just do the one hundred verse one, Like

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Speaker 2: I don't know why they do an escalation, that's the question.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about ten thousand like whatever. That's too

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Speaker 2: abstract of one v. One hundred in a fair one

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Speaker 2: what's right?

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Speaker 1: And then we get to root for the one gorilla

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Speaker 1: because he's a protagonist one hundred men sent Uh all right,

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Speaker 1: let's let's talk about Mega Malfoy. So things continue to

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Speaker 1: get more surreal at the White House, where we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk on tomorrow's episode about the one hundred day glaze fest,

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Speaker 1: where like Donald Trump just like sat in a room

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Speaker 1: surrounded by his advisors and they all just like took

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Speaker 1: turns just doing their best to like gas him up

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Speaker 1: about how like historically amazing. It's truly like, yeah, it's gone.

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Speaker 1: It's fully on some North Korea ship.

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Speaker 2: At North Korea, there's like fear of death, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's why you do it. Here, it's like fear of

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Speaker 2: not being a cabinet member anymore and having you on

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Speaker 2: Fox News and there's still they still got that energy,

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Speaker 2: which right, yeah, wow.

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Speaker 1: Mister President. It's it's just like that like eyed cheerfulness

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Speaker 1: that you see in like the news broadcasts from you know, dictatorships,

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Speaker 1: and you still people.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people memed the North Korean news anchor

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Speaker 2: lady who like wears that like traditional Korean garb, and

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Speaker 2: tweeted it so like her speech bubble was just directly

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Speaker 3: Meeting, the Pam Bondi one was kind of blown up

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Speaker 3: on Blue Ska.

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Speaker 1: But this this trend has also given us mega malfoy.

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Speaker 1: This is a mega influencer named Link Lauren who started

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Speaker 1: as a TikTok song creator and then started talking about

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Speaker 1: kind of like the way this guy glazes people meeting.

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Speaker 2: He went from TikToker who did songs about the royal

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Speaker 2: family to being one of rfk's and visors, okay, and

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Speaker 2: that's how he sort of fell into orbit of these people.

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Speaker 2: And now that the White House is bringing in just

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Speaker 2: straight up fucking weird o maga people to act like

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Speaker 2: they're also journalists. That way they get as many softball

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Speaker 2: questions on they've had this this influencer celebration where they

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Speaker 2: let them all just ask their prescripted, preapproved softball questions.

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Speaker 3: To Caroline Levitt.

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Speaker 1: First of all, a cutaway has never looked more like

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Speaker 1: an SNL cutaway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just true, because he.

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Speaker 1: Has like dyed blonde hair that's like slicked back in

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Speaker 1: a way that it just looks like Beck Bennett in

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Speaker 1: the Wig. You know, like Beck Bennett as Mike Pence

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Speaker 1: is down there.

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Speaker 2: Beck Bennett as Mike Pence as Link Lauren as Link Lauren,

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Speaker 2: We're sick.

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Speaker 1: And the people around him are also like trying to

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Speaker 1: keep a straight faceless for someone.

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Speaker 2: Because they're all they're all in, they're all just they

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Speaker 2: all know, they're all full of shit, and like they're

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Speaker 2: all pretending to be at the White House, but unfortunately

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Speaker 2: they actually are there. But here's his very hard hitting

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Speaker 2: question he asked to chief liar for this administration, Caroline Lovett, based.

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Speaker 4: In the first one hundred days, is that the White

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Speaker 4: House is crawling with kids.

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Speaker 1: You have to tell yeah, first, yeah, you think I've noticed, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: crawling with kids.

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Speaker 4: Have a young, beautiful baby boy. There are babies everywhere

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Speaker 4: there's so many young folks on staff who have kids.

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Speaker 4: But the last years Joe Biden, parents are really stressed

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Speaker 4: and ravage. They had to take on two or three

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Speaker 4: extra jobs. Depression rates were up, suicide rates were up.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what is what is the connection here? He

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Speaker 1: There, you have kids, Caroline, kids, and.

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Speaker 2: When Joe Biden was president, people wanted to harm themselves, sad.

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Speaker 1: Because they couldn't even see their kids. Joe Biden kept

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Speaker 1: people's kids away from the That's what actually he did

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Speaker 1: do that. Okay, it's uh, yeah, it's just the question

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Speaker 1: goes nowhere, just like kids.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's see where it goes. He might land this thing.

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Speaker 4: Come on, you're a very high profile young mother who

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Speaker 4: seems to juggle and balance it all beautifully. What advice

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Speaker 4: do you have young parents out there who are starting

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Speaker 4: their careers, having kids, building families and trying to find

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, first of all, it's probably has to do

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Speaker 2: with the fact that I'm paid hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 2: to have a work life balance because my wages are

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Speaker 2: high enough. Yeah, I love that. This question was like

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Speaker 2: It's so boilerplate, like you're beautiful, how do you make?

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Speaker 1: What's it like to be so beautiful and successful and

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Speaker 1: like have it all? Like is that weird? Is that

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure for you? It is like the

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Speaker 1: question that a child would ask somebody they're doing a

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Speaker 1: book report on you know, like it's that first like

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Speaker 1: you are my favorite basketball player. You have so much

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Speaker 1: money and you're so good at basketball? What is it

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Speaker 1: like to like score all those points and then like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually like somehow it's one level below even

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Speaker 2: the questions Chris Farley would ask and the Chris Carley

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Speaker 1: That was asking if we remembered something. This is just

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Speaker 1: like how are you so sick? And like what's that?

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Speaker 3: Like? I wish link Lauren wrapped it up like you

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Speaker 3: remember that I do?

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Speaker 1: That's awesome that you's so cool?

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Speaker 2: Just up top before we get into this next story,

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Speaker 2: it does deal with suicidal ideation and if you are

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Speaker 2: struggling and need help, please remember that in America you

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Speaker 2: can dial nine to eight eight to get in contact

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Speaker 2: with mental health crisis counselors.

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Speaker 3: And just know that those resources are available to you.

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Speaker 1: Character AI is trending. This is a company that is

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Speaker 1: currently in a legal battle with the parents of a

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Speaker 1: child that took their own life after interacting with an

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Speaker 1: AI product. It essentially brings characters to life from shows

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Speaker 1: like Game of Thrones for people to chat with. Except

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Speaker 1: this boy began nudging the child towards suicidal ideation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now they're in court saying that they shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: They should be let off the hook and the case

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Speaker 2: should be dismissed because AI bots also deserve freedom.

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Speaker 3: Of speech protections.

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Speaker 2: Jesus, this is from Ours Technica. This is like from

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Speaker 2: the article that was first about when like this the

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Speaker 2: lawsuit came up. Quote chatlog showed that some chatbots repeatedly

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Speaker 2: encouraged suicidal ideation, while others initiated hyper sexualized chats quote

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Speaker 2: that would constitute abuse if initiated by a human adult.

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Speaker 2: A press release from Garcia's legal team said, this is

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Speaker 2: the mother of the of the kid. Perhaps most disturbingly,

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Speaker 2: sets Or developed a romantic attachment to a chatbot called Denaris.

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Speaker 2: In his last act before his death, Sets are logged

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Speaker 2: into character AI, where the Denaris chatbot urged him to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fucking horrifying. Is clearly evil, wild shit that

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Speaker 1: I have to assume that the Supreme Court will back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the arguments that they're like giving

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Speaker 3: This is a huge case. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: But then you know, the lawyers for the victims family

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Speaker 3: This is again auto incorrect. This is not a This

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Speaker 2: Even like a corporation which has those rights, it's made

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Speaker 2: up of humans that have the intent to do something. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: I guess that that's where that argument comes from. But

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Speaker 2: this is very very, very very dark shit. So again,

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Speaker 2: like like you said, if this doesn't go their way,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they will keep appealing to the point that,

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Speaker 2: you know, uh, Alito and Clarence Thomas have the final word,

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Speaker 2: the true arbiters of what.

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Speaker 3: Is fair in tech.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: And we're back back.

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Speaker 1: It feels like again, like the one hundred men versus

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Speaker 1: one gorilla thing. This feels like a thing that just

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Speaker 1: goes viral every once in a while. I'm talking, of

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Speaker 1: course about Ben Afflex frank possibly drunken commentary from the

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Speaker 1: Criterion release of the Armageddon DVD, where he h you know,

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Speaker 1: at one point recalls Michael Bay telling him to shut

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Speaker 1: and ask Michael Bay, like, why, Michael, why would it

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Speaker 1: be easier to teach oil drillers to be astronauts than

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Speaker 1: teach astronauts to use a drill? Just shut the fuck up, Ben, Ben,

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Speaker 1: that's a great question. Shut the fuck up. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: just generally, he's just being incredibly honest throughout right. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it's in a way that feels like he didn't

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Speaker 1: Like y'all got like porkys in here, You got any like.

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Speaker 1: He did say that in retrospect now quote in retrospect now,

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Speaker 1: I've definitely walked into a gallery with you know, my

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Speaker 1: Incoming exactly, Yeah, they got an incoming in their earpiece.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Apparently, modern paintings, if unvarnished, are particularly susceptible

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But yeah, I think the lesson is clear, never

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Speaker 2: Fuck talking about Van Golls blue period, motherfucker you watching

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Speaker 1: That's that's what vangs blue period was. It was bluey.

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Speaker 3: Move on, move on, find a new angle.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has joked that he'd like to be pope,

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Speaker 1: but every time that he has like joked something that

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Speaker 3: So I don't hard to know.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear the clip though, the way he said it? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I could do both here. It is I'd like

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Speaker 2: Then he goes on like a lot of people just

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Speaker 1: Don't think he meant it, but also I didn't think

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Speaker 1: for him, Like that seemed like he was joking too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he maybe need someone to tell him, like, actually

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Speaker 2: You were joking about that. Yeah, Lindsey Graham came in again.

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Speaker 2: Trump is surrounded by freaks just lying to him and

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that tomorrow's episode.

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Speaker 2: But Lindsay Graham then tweeted quote, I was excited to

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Speaker 2: The first Pope US president combination has many upsides watching

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Speaker 2: Trump twenty eight in Roman Nomoral's fantastic, fantastic.

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Speaker 3: And it's so hard to know.

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Speaker 2: It's like is Lindsay And also with Lindsay Graham's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's joking or also serious because

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Speaker 2: Trump's nice side.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't give a fuck, Like he can say it

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Speaker 1: as a joke. But if Trump believes it, it's better

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Speaker 3: He's like, look at this guy. He thinks they could

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Speaker 1: Those are some of the things that are trending on

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Speaker 1: this Wednesday, April thirtieth. We are back tomorrow with a

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Speaker 1: whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind

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Speaker 1: to each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine

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Speaker 1: while you still can get your flu shots. Don't do

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Speaker 1: nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk to you

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Speaker 1: all tomorrow. Bye bye,