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Speaker 1: Welcome to the thirty eight annual Around the NFL Podcast

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Extravaganza with special guests Marcus Grants, Liz Losa. That's

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Speaker 1: hell as in look, it's Liz Losa. Oh as in

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Speaker 1: oh my God, is that Liz Losa? Z as in

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Speaker 1: cesty Liz Losa? And he as in ah, yes, Liz Losa, Rhoto,

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Speaker 1: Pat Patrick Dougherty, the big Fish, Kevin Silva and introduced

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Speaker 1: last in accordance with his Ironclad contract writer Brick by Brick,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthaw. And now your host and two time League

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Speaker 1: of Third Champion, Thank you, Matt Money Sniff. And that

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Speaker 1: is defending League of Record champion than hand zeus. It

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Speaker 1: is well we all have our own Leagues of Record

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Speaker 1: And yes, the Fantasy Extravaganza is here, Greg and uh

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Speaker 1: and the theme of this year's episode is perfect. How

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Speaker 1: do you be perfect on draft Day? How do you

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Speaker 1: have the perfect fantasy season? That's what we're here to deliver.

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Speaker 1: And Greg, you did, indeed, as you tell us all

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Speaker 1: the time, help build road a world into a giant

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Speaker 1: in the fantasy. I didn't say anything, and I know

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Speaker 1: you're not involved with fantasy as much anymore or at

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Speaker 1: all I should say. But I know this episode holds

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Speaker 1: a special place in your heart. It does. I mean, um,

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Speaker 1: I don't like it when Silva makes little comments on

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Speaker 1: Twitter established the run and you know I've done his

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Speaker 1: pot a couple of times where he's like, oh, you're

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Speaker 1: an old man, You're out of the game. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: even respect my opinions anymore. I get, you know. I

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Speaker 1: think Rhodo Pat probably feels the same another you know,

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Speaker 1: former co worker of mine. I hope Liz Losa respects me.

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Speaker 1: I know we respect her. I mean, she got a

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Speaker 1: lot more pop than Marcus on the intro. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've done the show for eight plus years.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think you could surprise me anymore with how

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Speaker 1: it opens, but that that was incredible. What a talent

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Speaker 1: Matt money Smith is as a as a host. But

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling you wrote those words. I did

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Speaker 1: not write the Liz Losa that was improv Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: one took me by surprise. It's a little if you're

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Speaker 1: a fan of Family Guy, a rather famous Robert Loggia

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Speaker 1: a bit from that show. But yes, this is um

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Speaker 1: and Liz does not respect you. By the way, just

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Speaker 1: to answer the question. No, probably, I get it. I

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Speaker 1: get it. You gotta be in there, either in or

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Speaker 1: you're out. But here's what I'm I would say to

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Speaker 1: defend myself. When you're out, I think you get a

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Speaker 1: different perspective that when all those fantasy guys in the

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Speaker 1: bunker and maybe Marcus will come on soon, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that. There's a little bit of a high of mine.

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Speaker 1: And even though they try to get out of it,

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this guy is average a DP fifty three,

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Speaker 1: but I have him thirty nine, And it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's a strong take. Well how about like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I have him fifteen, like, because that's what reality could be. Like,

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Speaker 1: reality is gonna be way bigger in terms of surprises

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Speaker 1: and anomalies than any of these rankings are ever gonna be.

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Speaker 1: So get some stones, fantasy analysts. That's what Wow. I

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Speaker 1: like that Greg hitting out against biting the hand that

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Speaker 1: once fed him and built his career. Really, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he built his career off the back of fantasy sports.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's just Greg. That's just great. But do

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Speaker 1: you think I would have done it? I would have

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Speaker 1: done it forever if um I didn't get some other

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Speaker 1: opportunity that felt like, oh, let's do something different, let's

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Speaker 1: not be in seventeen leagues and be totally stressed out. Me.

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Speaker 1: Me and West we both had that experience where we

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Speaker 1: got a little burnt out that fantasy didn't feel as

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Speaker 1: fun anymore. Um just you know when it when it's

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Speaker 1: your job, when football is fun, but fantasy became a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a job. Now you love you love ball,

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Speaker 1: and you closely follow every team. Do you really think

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Speaker 1: you know, I know you're not active in fantasy leagues anymore,

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Speaker 1: but do you think you would the Greg of two

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Speaker 1: thousand and ten or whatever it was, would kick the

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Speaker 1: Greg of two thousand twenty ones asked, I mean, is

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Speaker 1: it really that different in terms of football knowledge versus

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Speaker 1: fantasy football knowledge? No, I don't think so. I mean

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Speaker 1: luck is easily the most important factor in a fantasy league,

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Speaker 1: and everyone that comes on today, I'll admit it. And

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Speaker 1: plus so you know, I still got those like I

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Speaker 1: still got the the the experience. If I jumped back in,

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Speaker 1: be the wins of money. Luck is very important, and

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Speaker 1: as I said, I did win my League of record

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Speaker 1: last year. Even though I had Carson Wentz and Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger is my UH two quarterbacks because you know what else?

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Speaker 1: I had Alvin Kamara the greatest championship performance of all

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Speaker 1: believe it's Christmas Day. Oh yeah, unbelievable. Anyway, enough of that,

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Speaker 1: but did you hear that, Craig? What is that? I

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Speaker 1: think we got something on the line. I think, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a big one. That's the big fish,

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Speaker 1: the big Fish. Evan Silva is our first guest. I'm

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Extravaganz and how fitting Evan when I'm established

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Speaker 1: the run dot com? Dude, how are you? Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us again? This is officially a tradition on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Yeah, I think we've done this almost five

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Speaker 1: years at this point and keeping the tradition alive. It's

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Speaker 1: the season is inching closer. I spent my entire morning

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Speaker 1: adjusting rankings for the trade and things are things are

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Speaker 1: starting to get real, So I'm excited. A tough month

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Speaker 1: August this sneaky, the worst month for UH fantasy guru

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Speaker 1: like Evan Silva because of just the constant draft kit

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Speaker 1: updates and all that stuff. But he is he is

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Speaker 1: literally the biggest of fish. As as I've probably said

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Speaker 1: on this show before. When I first met him after

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Speaker 1: already being his boss for three years and found out

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Speaker 1: he's actually six seven and three d and twenty five pounds,

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Speaker 1: I had to start changing my tone on instant. Message

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Speaker 1: had to start changing, um Evan. It's seriously like draft

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Speaker 1: or a fantasy season doesn't start until we have to

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Speaker 1: reconsider where Darryl Henderson fits in in the pro football landscape.

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Speaker 1: But you know we're gonna get into sleepers and bus

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Speaker 1: and again established the run. Um Evan and Adam Levintond

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Speaker 1: run that together. And Silva has a column up this

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Speaker 1: week's Sleepers and Undervalued, and I highly recommend you check

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Speaker 1: that out and check that website out ahead of your

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Speaker 1: big drafts. And I guess before we get into some

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Speaker 1: sleepers and bus, for one, I had like an overarching

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Speaker 1: question for you, because I don't think there are many

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Speaker 1: people in this sphere that are more respected than the

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Speaker 1: big fish. How much to you when it comes to

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Speaker 1: succeeding and the whole theme of today's episode, How do

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Speaker 1: you having the perfect fantasy draft. How much um goes

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Speaker 1: back to preparation and how much goes to reacting in

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Speaker 1: the moment on draft day. As Mike Tyson once said,

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody has a plan until you get punched

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Speaker 1: I think that from an overall UH fantasy success standpoint,

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Speaker 1: I think that the draft itself is actually overrated. Now

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Speaker 1: it's the most fun part of the entire process. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, except for maybe winning in your championship game.

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Speaker 1: But and but so much leads up into it that

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Speaker 1: it feels like it's a lot more important than it is.

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Speaker 1: I would say it's about thirty of the battle. And

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Speaker 1: I think that the waiver wire, working the waiver wire

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Speaker 1: and getting guys off of them, being diligent every single week.

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Speaker 1: You know, most waiver wire runs occur on Tuesday or

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Speaker 1: these notions of zero running back and um you know

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Speaker 1: because to me, the value is is never is not

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Speaker 1: battle Sleepers and bus Evan Silva, who's the guy? Like,

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Speaker 1: would love to know Evan Silva's favorite sleepers this year,

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Speaker 1: Like who are the guys that really jump out to you? Right? Well,

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Speaker 1: of Sam Donald. Yes, so we we know that the post.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what most people are gonna say. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: Week one against the Jets, who have one of the

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Speaker 1: might end up going late. Now, if you look at

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Speaker 1: in the high stakes leagues, he started to go like

431
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Speaker 1: in the ninth round, but you might you probably can

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Speaker 1: get him a little bit later in your league's at home.

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Speaker 1: I think the Davante Parker his ADP is wide receiver

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Speaker 1: fifty five. I have him as the wide receiver forty.

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Speaker 1: He's a good value, whole commit. I think it's an

436
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Speaker 1: excellent number two tight end. I think he's rarely going

437
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Speaker 1: to come off the field this season. If you want

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Speaker 1: to go a little bit deeper for a sleeper tight end.

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Speaker 1: Donald Parham, who the Beat writers say is cutting into

440
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Speaker 1: Jared Cook's role already. Jared Cook is old, falling off

441
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Speaker 1: the cliff cliff, thirty four years old. Donald Parham only

442
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: caught ten balls last year, but three of them worked

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Speaker 1: for touchdowns. This guy six ft nine, he was the

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Speaker 1: best player in the XFL. Dan, I'm sure you caught

445
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Speaker 1: a bunch of those XFL games that I know how

446
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Speaker 1: you love the a F as a a guy personally.

447
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Speaker 1: But I but but in this offense, if Donald Parham

448
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Speaker 1: can can carve out a role where he's playing like

449
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Speaker 1: six of the snaps, which I think that he can do, um,

450
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Speaker 1: I mean the Chargers offense has won to bet on

451
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Speaker 1: this year. I'm amazed no offense tight end nine or ten.

452
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Speaker 1: I know he's had I guess a little banged up camp,

453
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Speaker 1: but keep take guys that can be the number one

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Speaker 1: player at the position. There's a there's a scenario where

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Speaker 1: no Ah Fan is tight end one or tight end

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Speaker 1: three or whatever it is. So just just take him

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Speaker 1: because that's gonna be eleven, twelfth round. Last thing for me,

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Speaker 1: um is thank you Evan Silva for joining us. It

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Speaker 1: is the first day of school for so many parents

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Speaker 1: across the country, including Evan and myself. And you have

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Speaker 1: a wonderful daughter to go pick up, So thank you

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Speaker 1: for making the time, buddy, and best of luck and

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Speaker 1: everybody go to establish the run dot com. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me a rank you there he goes Greggy the

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Speaker 1: big fish, the largest of all fish. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: if you want to take this moment here to do

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Speaker 1: your little victory celebration about your boy Teddy Bridgewater, a

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Speaker 1: little ted talk for Greg Rosenthal because he's got a

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Speaker 1: shot here to lead a very promising Broncos team. I

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Speaker 1: I had to admit that was bad podcasting by me

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Speaker 1: during that segment because I'm scrambling with trying to get

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Speaker 1: Evan silv out on time. I'm looking for sleepers and

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Speaker 1: bust and I don't think the enormity of Teddy Bridgewater

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Speaker 1: taking that job quite hit me yet. Let's just celebrate

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Speaker 1: it right now. Let's go like I'm a Patriots fan.

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Speaker 1: If the Patriots and the Broncots are playing, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: root for the Patriots. But this year I'm a Broncos fan.

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Speaker 1: Already was getting there, and now with this news, I

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Speaker 1: don't need anymore. They were once the team of West

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Speaker 1: tl Um, but now I don't need to wait till

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Speaker 1: the season starts. See how they look. They are the

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Speaker 1: team of th h A L. Rosenthal. I'm all in

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Speaker 1: on the Broncos. They're going to the playoffs. I think

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Speaker 1: they'll win a playoff game. This everything I wanted from

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Speaker 1: Teddy last year in Caroline. That's gonna happen with this

486
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Speaker 1: great roster in Denver. Love it. You know you you

487
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: often mocked me for going third person, but this. You know,

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Speaker 1: if I went to a patent office right now and

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Speaker 1: I find out that team of th H A L

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Speaker 1: is already registered, I'll know that you're Machabeliott. I think

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Speaker 1: I broke it out once now, but now yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's sticking. I don't know if I can. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just was trying to make a rhyme with West

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Speaker 1: t L or a t L. There's really no way,

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Speaker 1: but I believe it. I mean, I do. I have

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Speaker 1: fun with Teddy. I think it's okay to root for players.

497
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Speaker 1: Not everyone that you root for has to be the

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Speaker 1: best player in the league. But I really do think

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Speaker 1: this roster is super Bowl ready if they had Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers and Playoff ready with a little Teddy and and

501
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Speaker 1: don't get it twisted. And I know we we've been

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Speaker 1: at crossover Teddy Bridgewater, but I I've never had anything

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Speaker 1: against Teddy. In fact, he's a great story and a

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Speaker 1: great comeback story and by all accounts are really good dude.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really torn because I'd like to see your

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Speaker 1: analysis go up in flames and him struggle, and that

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Speaker 1: would bring me a lot of joy personally. But also

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Speaker 1: if Teddy thrives, that's a nice thing too, because he's

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Speaker 1: a good dude who deserves it. I appreciate the honesty.

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Speaker 1: I think after eight years, we're just now more honest

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Speaker 1: with other Speaking of good dudes, our next guest is

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Speaker 1: a mainstay on NFL Network, NFL dot com, The Fantasy Podcast.

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Speaker 1: You see him all over the dial this time of year,

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Speaker 1: and now we welcome him back to the Round the

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Speaker 1: NFL Pod Cast. He is the great Marcus Grant. Happens

516
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Speaker 1: to me, man, stuff like that never happens to anybody

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Speaker 1: except from Marcus. Yeah, how about Marcus gram in a

518
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Speaker 1: Boomerang reboot? You in the Eddie Roll? How about that?

519
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: That was? That was sort of my life in like

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Speaker 1: junior high in high school after that movie came out,

521
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Speaker 1: because especially because his name was Marcus Graham really close

522
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Speaker 1: to my name, So you don't know how many people

523
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Speaker 1: would just walk up to me in like high school

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Speaker 1: and just go mar That was that was my life

525
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Speaker 1: as a teenager. Well you could have you could have

526
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: worse role models, for sure. And I know this reference

527
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: is too old for Erica, but I love Boomerang so

528
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: much that it was like my favorite uh movie to

529
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Speaker 1: watch when it was on HBO. There's just so many

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Speaker 1: great lines in it and a great cast, and I

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Speaker 1: just want I want Marcus in the Marcus Graham role.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that's asking too much. Let's do

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Speaker 1: it all right, Marcus, welcome back. Uh, you're as rock

534
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Speaker 1: sold as it gets in the industry. Well, there's only

535
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Speaker 1: but even though Evan Silva is the big fish, we

536
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: only have big fish on this show, and you're a

537
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Speaker 1: big one indeed. And I just want to say, Marcus,

538
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Speaker 1: we are breaking it down kind of by tears here

539
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: or I'm not saying to you, Marcus, but the audience. So, Evan,

540
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: we focused on the sleepers and bus and some overall

541
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Speaker 1: fantasy philosophy. Uh, with Mr Grant wide receivers and tight ends.

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Speaker 1: What do you feel about this positional group? Um? Overarching

543
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: thoughts as we get into the conversation, Well, you can't

544
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: pick two more different positional groups in terms of depth.

545
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Speaker 1: Wide receiver is by far the deepest and tight end

546
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: is easily the thinnest. So it's sort of I've taken

547
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: two different approaches with it. Where I tend to go

548
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: very early on tight ends. I've drafted Travis Kelsey in

549
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: the first round in counters drafts this offseason. Um, you know,

550
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Speaker 1: if I don't get him that, I'm fine with a

551
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: Darren Waller and works Kiell somewhere in the first couple

552
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Speaker 1: three rounds tight or wide receiver. Rather, you can sort

553
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Speaker 1: of wait on because there is such a depth. A

554
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: lot of times I might not go until the fourth

555
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Speaker 1: round before I get my first wide receiver, just because

556
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: there's still plenty of quality players there and I can

557
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: feel okay about it. I want four. I want four

558
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: or five wide receivers though, like I mean that are good,

559
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Speaker 1: like top forty wide receivers. I want four or five

560
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: because injuries are gonna happen. Hopefully you've gotta flex spot,

561
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Speaker 1: especially if you've got a flex and three receiver starters.

562
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: I I was really surprised out as a Fantasy outsider

563
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: Marcus to see when I checked in on the ADP. Wow,

564
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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is going twelve because to me, it's like,

565
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Speaker 1: I don't know, He's always been Travis Kelsey. He's never

566
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Speaker 1: gotten twelve before. So I don't want him the year

567
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Speaker 1: that he is going twelve because to me, nothing's different

568
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: about him. He's still the same guy. He's great. You're

569
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Speaker 1: locking in a tough position. I get it. But you know,

570
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Speaker 1: I mentioned Noah Fan. There's other guys, Mark Andrews, There's

571
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: plenty of breakout type guys that I feel like you

572
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: could get later when can just stack up those like

573
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Speaker 1: superstar receivers at the top if you can get them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think anything has changed with Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 1: I think things have changed with us. It's that every

576
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Speaker 1: year we kept trying to tell ourselves that, you know what,

577
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Speaker 1: tight end is gonna be deeper this year, It's gonna

578
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Speaker 1: be deeper this year, and it never was. We we

579
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Speaker 1: would always come into August thinking that, hey, you know what,

580
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be these mid round tight ends and at

581
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Speaker 1: least a couple of them are going to pop. And

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Speaker 1: then we get to October and we're like, this is

583
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Speaker 1: a morass and this is awful and why did we

584
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Speaker 1: think this? So I think instead of just going all

585
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Speaker 1: that like that, yeah, Instead, instead we decided to forego

586
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Speaker 1: that and we're like, you know what, there are three

587
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Speaker 1: guys that we know we can count on at this point.

588
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Speaker 1: Just make the leap and reach for them. So it's

589
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Speaker 1: not that it's not that I think Travis Kelsey has

590
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Speaker 1: gotten better or Darren Waller, George Kittle, they're all really good. Uh,

591
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Speaker 1: It's just that I think a lot of us are

592
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Speaker 1: sick of sort of you know, throwing darts at the

593
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Speaker 1: might Sicki's of the world and hoping that something great

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Speaker 1: comes to that. It's a strong argument because if you

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Speaker 1: think about it, it's kind of mirrors the Marcus Grant

596
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Speaker 1: career actory. Nothing's changed with Marcus Grant, Like he's always

597
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: been a fantasy fantasy analyst one, but it just took

598
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: a while for the NFL to realize it and start

599
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: pushing him up that draft board. Put the top of

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Speaker 1: the jet Charry, put him on TV more. I'm seeing

601
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Speaker 1: you in the prese. It's it's great. So you you are,

602
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: Mr Kelsey, Marcus and I are grinders in the NFL

603
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: media sphere. We we just rose up um just through

604
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: pure effort. Hey speaking of tight ends. So yeah, we

605
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: all know the big three. And I'm looking at um

606
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: an a DP site to trust to fantasy football calculator,

607
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: and I see Kyle Pitts and I see him going

608
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Speaker 1: according to their rankings average reposition top fifty. That is

609
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Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. Yeah, Kyle pits Now where does he? Where?

610
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Speaker 1: Do where? For you? Is that a guy that you

611
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Speaker 1: want to invest a Still that's a premium draft pick.

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Speaker 1: Was first five picks in a rookie, now a rookie

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Speaker 1: that people say can transform the position. But are you

614
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Speaker 1: willing to get in on the ground floor with Kyle

615
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Speaker 1: Pitts that early in the draft. I'm not. I I look,

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Speaker 1: I completely understand the arguments of people who do. I'm

617
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Speaker 1: just not one of them. I've got him kind of

618
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Speaker 1: is my sixth tight end, Right, You've got your big

619
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Speaker 1: three and then whatever order you want to put Mark

620
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: Andrews and t J. Hawkinson, that's fine with me. And

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Speaker 1: then I've got Kyle Pitts there. Everybody. You know, we

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Speaker 1: we a lot of times, you know, set these expectations

623
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Speaker 1: for players. Last year, you know, Clyde Edward de Laier,

624
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Speaker 1: I think was a victim of our expectations, where people

625
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: overdrafted him because of what we thought he could be.

626
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Speaker 1: And I sort of worry that about Kyle Pitts because, um,

627
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: we have set his his standard arbitrarily somewhere just south

628
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: of like saturn um and and for him to kind

629
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Speaker 1: of hit that if you're drafting him as the fourth

630
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: tight end off the board, you were expecting him to

631
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: hit his absolute ceiling. And history just kind of shows

632
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: us that that doesn't happen with tight ends, and because

633
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: we have set that ceiling so high, it just feels

634
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Speaker 1: really difficult for him to get there. I think even

635
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: if he is very good, which I expect, I just

636
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be where people are anticipating him being.

637
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Speaker 1: I think next year, I think we can talk about that.

638
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Speaker 1: But I think this year I would have him as

639
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Speaker 1: my sixth tight end, maybe draft him somewhere a few

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Speaker 1: rounds later, which basically boils down to I'm not gonna

641
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Speaker 1: draft him because he's gonna be gone before that opportunity comes. Yeah,

642
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: that's that's fascinating. I I you're saying that Hockinson was

643
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: in the next three. That's it's another one as a

644
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: fantasy outside him, Like what that he's in that three?

645
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: Because I just do think about, like which what you guys,

646
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: who do you want on your real team? I do

647
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: think people get a little caught up in the situations more. No,

648
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: a fan is a better football player than Tej Hockinson.

649
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: It's not even close in terms of fantasy skills, in

650
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: terms of a receiver. So it's like, why so is

651
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. I don't even think they're in the same ballpark.

652
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: Maybe Hockinson changes, he develops, and he's in a great situation.

653
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: But I don't get that. I'm gonna throw a question

654
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: by you, Marcus, because I want to get this take

655
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: out there. It's my number one fantasy take of the

656
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: of the year. So it's not really a question, it's

657
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: just a pleasure. It's fall. The question is like the

658
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: guy that you can't draft at wide receiver too early,

659
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: that there is no too early for this guy. That

660
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: if Marcus has twenty teams, you're happy that he's on

661
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: seventeen of them, you know, But but usually a pretty

662
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: good guy for me, without any doubt, it's Terry McLaurin.

663
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: I don't think you can take Terry McLaurin too high.

664
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: I think if he's you're at the top of the

665
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: second round, I don't care. That's not too early for him.

666
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: You want to take him in the first round. I

667
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: don't even care. Like I would put I would put

668
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: Davante Adams ahead of him, maybe Stefon Diggs, and that's it.

669
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: And and sometimes I think you get caught up in

670
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: like let's beat the I a DP by four or

671
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: five spots or whatever. I personally just think he is

672
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: going to have a monstrous season with with Fitzpatrick, I

673
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: think yards is like absolutely within reach. And so to me,

674
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't take him too early. If I was drafting,

675
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take him in every draft. That's the

676
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: guy I'm staking my claim to. Do you have a

677
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: guy like that at wide receiver? I do well. First

678
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: of all, I you know, I don't think you're crazy

679
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: with the mclaua and take there. He You know, when

680
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: when the football team went out and got Ryan Fitzpatrick,

681
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: everybody who's already high on Terry McLaurin just went to

682
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: the moon about him, just because we know what Ryan

683
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick can be and what That's what I thought. And

684
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: then I looked and he's still like the eighth or

685
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: ninth receiver in the end of the third round. That

686
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: surprised me because to me, the moon is like wide

687
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: receiver one. I think that's possible. It's like a football

688
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: team tax here that just because I I'm I'm guilty

689
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: of this. Like when I think about it and I

690
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: look at the top five or six receivers that are

691
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: going Adams, Hill, Digs, Hopkins, Ridley, Metical, Jefferson, scary Terry

692
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: is not there? Is it because he's got a bad nickname?

693
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: Is it because Washington's offense has just been so uninspiring

694
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: for decades now that is turning off basics Like me?

695
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: I think I think it's some of that. I also

696
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: just think it's you know a lot of times it's

697
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: muscle memory, right when you see that, you know, Davontae Adams,

698
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs, Tyreek Hills, those guys. Uh, It's just we

699
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: have become accustomed to drafting those guys as the first

700
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: handful of players off the board, and it's hard to

701
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: do that. It's hard to sort of break away from that.

702
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: So maybe that has something to do with it. But

703
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: I mean, to answer your question for me, it's seedee lamb.

704
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean's you know, same division on a team that

705
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: I think is gonna throw the football a ton, on

706
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: a team that has become certainly more dack centered over

707
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: the years, uh, and on a team that defensively I

708
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: don't expect them to be, you know, a ton better

709
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: than they were last year. So I think that the

710
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna be in a lot of track meats,

711
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: which means, uh, you're going to have Dack throwing the

712
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: ball a lot, and this talk that they want to

713
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: move Lamb all over the formation. You get him just

714
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: outside of just being in the slot and get him

715
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: outside a little bit um. You know, I also think

716
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: he's definitely getting a hard knocks bump um, you know,

717
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: with with some of those highlights and stuff we're seeing there.

718
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: But but Ceedee Lamb is a guy that I have

719
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: been trying to draft in a mini places and it's

720
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: been you know, a lot of virtual fist fights because

721
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of feeling this way about Ceedee La hear

722
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: me out on that Devil's advocate on this um, because

723
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: this is out there as a thought as well, Amari Cooper.

724
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna get his targets he's got to eat.

725
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: You have Michael Gallup also in that mix, you have

726
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: z Elliott. He's getting to me a hard knocks bump

727
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: as well, where it looks like he's it's gonna be

728
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 1: a good Zeke season potentially, and you know that's gonna

729
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: lead to a lot of touches for him. Is there

730
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: not enough footballs to go around to make Ceedee Lamb

731
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: the breakout player that many people think he will be

732
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: this year, myself included. I mean, I think there's a

733
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: concern about that, but I I think we're sort of

734
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: brushing that off just based on what he did in

735
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: those but four or five games that he had with

736
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: back last year before the injury. I mean, it looked

737
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: like he was going to really take off. And I

738
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: go back to last year and you look at that

739
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: rookie wide receiver class and my take at the time,

740
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: and I still believe this is that last year, Justin

741
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: Jefferson was the guy you wanted as a rookie. But

742
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: if you're talking a longer CEI link for those folks

743
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: who play dynasty football, I thought Ceedee Lamb was the

744
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: guy with the higher ceiling. So I still believe there's

745
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: an opportunity for him. You mentioned Michael Gallup. I keep

746
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: thinking that he is. He's kind of the Jan Brady

747
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: of of that Dallas Cowboys offense. Right. It's like he's

748
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: a good player in a situation where he can get opportunity. Yeah,

749
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna get the same kind of targets

750
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: as Cooper or Lamb, but I think, you know, for

751
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: folks who were drafting and you're looking for a wide

752
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: receiver late Michael Gallup's a really nice option because I

753
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: think if you're looking for kind of a depth ad

754
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver spot, I think he's gonna get

755
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: plenty of opportunities. I'm amazed by the talent of the receivers.

756
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: You said you might wait at receiver a little bit.

757
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: That's not my game. Um, But there are such good

758
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: guys available in the six fifth, sixth round. I'm kind

759
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: of stunned. I would I would start taking them a

760
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: little early. But of these guys who I all love

761
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: and think like, wow, why it's crazy how talented the

762
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: receivers are getting taking in the sixth round or so,

763
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: give me an order, who you like, who you don't

764
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: Auke and again, I love all these picks Auke, Judy,

765
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: Deonte Johnson, and oh b J. To me, those are

766
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: all like potentially fantastic values to to get that late. Um,

767
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: I would probably go au first. I'm just I'm on

768
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: the hashtag team au all day, so I go ayou.

769
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: I would go say Johnson, Uh, Judy, and and putting

770
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: O b J four. And that's a hard call for me.

771
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: The only reason I'm doing that is because I feel

772
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: like there's such a wide range of outcomes with him.

773
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: I think I think the guy that we saw for

774
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: the Giants all those years, that player is still in there. Um.

775
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: But I don't know that that the Browns offense is

776
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: going to feature him the same way that the Giants

777
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: did once upon a time. They've got two very good

778
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: running backs, They've got a defense that is going to

779
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: keep them in every game, so they're not necessarily going

780
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: to have to sling the ball around a lot. Um.

781
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: I do think that, you know, another year with Mayfield

782
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: and and Kevin Stefanski and that offense is going to help.

783
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: But I just feel like there are going to be weeks.

784
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna be weeks when when Odell looks like the

785
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: Beckham of old and and he has those spike weeks

786
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: and he helps you win. Uh. There will also be

787
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: weeks where they just don't need him and he's just

788
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: not gonna get a large target share. So it could

789
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: be sort of a roller coaster year for him. He's

790
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: the flip side of Kelsey though to me, where it's

791
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: like there's a chance he's the you know, wide receiver four,

792
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: like when a guy used to get taken in the

793
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: first and second round and he's getting taken in the

794
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: sixth round and he's healthy. It's like I would I

795
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: like taking that guy. That's how you do things. I'm

796
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: a little wary of O. B. J being more name

797
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 1: than game at this point, as Chris Westling was known

798
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: to say, last thing, real quick, Marcus, which rookie will

799
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: be this year's Justin Jefferson and wide receiver? And why

800
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: is it Elijah More? You know what? I I do

801
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: love Elijah More. I do, and especially for where he's

802
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: going in draft, he seems like a really great value.

803
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: But for me, the answer is gonna be Davante Smith. Um.

804
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: From the moment he was drafted, he was the best

805
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver on the Eagles roster. And maybe this is

806
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: their He's going kind of like seventh, eighth round in

807
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: a lot of spots Um. You know, maybe this is

808
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: the Eagles way to sort of make up for whiffing

809
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: on Jefferson last year. But I think he's the best

810
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: receiver on that roster. You know. The one word that

811
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: keeps coming up when you talk about his route running

812
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: is just he's a technician. And I do think the

813
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: Eagles are gonna throw the football a lot more than

814
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: people are anticipating. It's also why I kind of like

815
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts Uh, if I'm waiting on a quarterback, I

816
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: think there's something. I think there's something there with this

817
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: passing game in Philadelphia. Any deep sleepers, I know, he

818
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: said last question, but just like sprinkle a couple and

819
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: they're not deep sleepers. But maybe at the bottom of

820
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: so my favorite deep sleeper at wide receiver is I'm

821
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: on Ross st. Brown. Um, people are calling me the

822
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: USC homer, and that's fine. I'll take that. That's that's whatever.

823
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: But because when whenever you talk about him he might

824
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: be on, it sounds like but people also keep saying

825
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: People also keep saying that he's sort of going to

826
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: be the Detroit version of Cooper Cup for Jared Goff.

827
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, that's that's not bad, a

828
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: great one, not bad at all. Marcus Grant follow him

829
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: on Twitter, watch The Fantasy Show on NFL Network, and

830
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: of course the Fantasy NFL Fantasy Podcast. Thank you my man,

831
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: and um, listen, I'm I'm with Martin Laurens. I asked

832
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: the same question, happens to stuff like that never happens

833
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: to anybody. So from Marcus. Very good. The reboot it's coming.

834
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: We were on the schedule. One of the good guys.

835
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: You know, we've been here for what you've been here

836
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: longer than eight years or nine years, like I've been

837
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: here four thousand years. Was one of the one of

838
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: the glue guys inside the company. So it's great to

839
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: see him. Yes, we love Marcus. And no, you got

840
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: in that extra question. You kind of try to usurp

841
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: my power as the host. It's because we're on a schedule,

842
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: and we got to stay on schedule. Now we're three

843
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: minutes behind schedule. We just got like twelve thousand people

844
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: to draft them on st Brown in the fourteenth th round,

845
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: and I think that was an amazing deep sleeper pick.

846
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: So it's gonna help. We'll see how that plays out

847
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: and we'll circle back to that next year with Marcus.

848
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: But coming up next on the show, the train keeps rolling. Unfortunately,

849
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: do not have a boomerang ref for our next guest,

850
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: but we're very excited to have him. Ah. He is

851
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Speaker 1: one of the great fantasy writers out there. I have

852
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: to thank this man for taking me to my league

853
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: title last year because I just studied his writings and

854
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: acted accordingly and it all worked out in the end.

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Speaker 1: Rhodo Pat Pat already welcome back or welcome to Is

856
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: this second time? First time? I think it's too I

857
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: think yeah. Well anyway, I welcome to the Round the

858
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: NFL podcast from Rhodo World. What's up, buddy? Uh? Not

859
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: much said, I'm one of the greats, but I was

860
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: heard the end of Marcus is talking to me. Marcus

861
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: sounds way more prepared than me. Marcus sounds really smart

862
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: and in the zone. Well, there is a reason you've

863
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: only been on once over the years, Um, Pat like

864
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: an amazing person, writer, h fantasy analysts, and um we

865
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: talked about Brick by Brick. You know a lot Dan

866
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: does on the show. Yeah yeah, our listeners might not know.

867
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: You know, goal line stand that that's the rankings column

868
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: over at Rhodo World. Matthew Polly started it way back

869
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: in the day, and then he gave it to me.

870
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: I gave it to West, and then West gave it

871
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: to Rhoto Pat. Here that's the that's the lineage and

872
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: he he he crushes those rankings with a lot of mirth,

873
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: not even a little bit of mirth, a lot of mirth.

874
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: We go we go all in on the mirth and

875
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: uh yeah, no pressure following in that group. And I'm

876
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: glad you shouted out Mr Polott. Where you could probably

877
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: give people like a hundred guesses who began the football

878
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: rankings at Rhoda World now NBC Sports Edge and our

879
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: baseball group. Matthew Polliott probably wouldn't be one of them,

880
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, Polliott is. He's like Crely the brick Layer.

881
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: There's nothing that he did the entire site by himself

882
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: for five years. So yeah, he's like, he's pretty I

883
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: was gonna say he's one of the most unhralded, like

884
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: a secret weapons and he's pretty heralded. Actually, like he

885
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: is heralded, decently heralded. He needs to be even more

886
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: heralded than he is. Matthew Polliott. He is a true

887
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: fantasy sports legend. We are going to talk quarterbacks now

888
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: with Rhoto Pat. But on the subject of branding, and

889
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: we've talked about this on the show as well. To

890
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: change in the name of that website, do you have

891
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: to rebrand and pivot to NBC Sports Edge, Pat, Yeah,

892
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: the Edge path Like at least Edge Pat, it's as

893
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: many characters, So I have such a love hate relationship

894
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: with the name Rhodo Pat. Like I like the fact

895
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: that it's memorable and that it's stuck. Yeah kind of

896
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: like I'm like, yeah, it's vintage. Now you know, everyone

897
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: wants vintage, you know the stuff. I was nostalgic before

898
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: it was like even a thing. But you've got the children.

899
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: Now you're kind You're like a grown man, and so

900
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: can you. I like the fact that it's like my

901
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: name are or whatever, Like I'm a one namer, but

902
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: I still would have preferred at Patrick Doharty on Twitter.

903
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: It's just my Irish name. Way too many characters and

904
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: so you know, back in the day too, you wanted few.

905
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: They counted like characters against the Uh like your name

906
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: characters counting. It's your character counts. So if people want

907
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: to you can't have wasting like so many characters in

908
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: the super long name. And that's how that's how Rhodo

909
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: Pat was born. Well, we love it. I love the

910
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: I love it as a hook for your career. But

911
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: now we need to change our focus and talk quarterbacks

912
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: and uh, let's start here. Let's start here. Let's talk

913
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: about some m v p s pasted in present and

914
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: maybe future. Okay At Mahomes obviously the number one quarterback here,

915
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: the only question becomes one, is it too early to

916
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: take a Pat Mahomes? I think that factors in how

917
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: your league is structured. Josh Allen, I imagine we still

918
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 1: feel very good about Josh Allen. Uh coming off last

919
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: year's incredible season. How about Lamar Jackson the two thousand nineteen?

920
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: Why why not just start there? How do you feel

921
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: about his prospects as a fantasy gold mine? Uh? This season,

922
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: I think he's still clear top five. And you know,

923
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: like what I think Sam the only two thousand I

924
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: think the three thousand yard rushing seasons in NFL history,

925
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: he has two of them. Michael Vick has the third. Uh,

926
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: as you probably know by now, like the way just

927
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: like bank points and like the dual thread quarterbacks are

928
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: such a life back and no one banks those like Lamar.

929
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: But you know, he was like a little volatile and

930
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: inconsistent last year. We're like, like it was nice to

931
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: have he had like that stratospheric upside with the rushing,

932
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: but like the floor was like a little lower than

933
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: probably should have been. Was like the passing inconsistency, Like

934
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: what we really wanted for like the next level for

935
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: Lamar to be like kind of like somebody you could

936
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: almost like safely project is like the QB two QB one.

937
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: It was like that next level in the passing game.

938
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: And was so excited to see Rashad Bateman in this offense,

939
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: like someone who had success like both inside and outside

940
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: in college. Really felt like, you know, like the missing

941
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: no offense to Willie Sneed, but like I'm excited to

942
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: see this guy in the offense. So will h shouts

943
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: to Willie Willy, You've had an amazing career. You know,

944
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: no expectations, you know, don't bury him. He's gonna be

945
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: the number one receiver probably for the Raiders Greg and

946
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: like this was so excited to see, you know, another

947
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: first round receiver. Maybe someoney would take pressure off Marquis

948
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown And like it's like the Ravens really needed this,

949
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: like maybe even as just someone they targeted like over

950
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: the middle of the field again, even if they never

951
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: got the outside cooking. And you're like Lamar's trouble getting

952
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: cooking on the outside. Like another guy who can do

953
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: like major damage over the middle of the field down

954
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: if that's the way they want to use them, and

955
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: that's the fact that he's hurt. I was like, kind

956
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: of like haywired the whole thing to me, You Lamar

957
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: missing time with COVID. I guess I'm not actually worried

958
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: about that, but I wanted I I felt like it

959
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: was the narrative made sense at least, like there's an

960
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: easy next step for Lamar to take this year, He's

961
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: got like another first round weapon, and now it's just

962
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: like it's how do you project like that next passing

963
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: game you're drafting? Are you taking a quarterback like a

964
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: lot whether it's early or late early in late I've

965
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: got my homes is the clear cut number one. But

966
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still who's ending up on your team's

967
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: You've done a million drafts, so that is and that

968
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: is the ultimate test of the fantasy analysts. I know

969
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: some people it's like they put these rankings out there

970
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: and it's like, who's on your team? That's what really matters.

971
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: If I actually go for like an early quarterback, I've

972
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: been ending up with Russell Wilson a lot. Like I

973
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, one of the most maybe the

974
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: most sensible m v P bet there is to me

975
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: amongst people that's like not getting like a ton of

976
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: m v P hype. Have not that he doesn't get

977
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: m vp I. Russell always gets m PPI, but a

978
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: lot of Russell Wilson, a lot of Matthew Stafford's still

979
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: like going barely in the top twelve. I'm surprised by that.

980
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: I thought the hype would be crazy, and I see

981
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: he's going after Herbert, who I love. But there's you know,

982
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: a lot of questions there in Tannehill that that doesn't

983
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: make sense to me. Yeah, there's so much narrative hype

984
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: with Matthew Stafford, and I'm shocked he hasn't like crashed

985
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: the top ten with McVeigh and the best weapons he's

986
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: had in several years, obviously the best coaching he's had,

987
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: but he's still kind of stubbornly like QB twelve, QB thirteen.

988
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: But an interesting point my us in Herbert by the way,

989
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: where you know very good that he set six rookie records,

990
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: but doesn't he kind of feel like an obvious statistical

991
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: regression candidate. Maybe not like a real life play, but

992
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: like they didn't really do anything to changing systems. They

993
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: didn't really do anything that the supporting cast like it's

994
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: a fine supporting cast, like as long as like Mike

995
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: Williams isn't like better line, but like, yeah, they didn't

996
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: like Goose the skills supporting cast at all. That kind

997
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: of feels like some obvious statistical regression to me there,

998
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: I was getting a load of Jalen Hurts early in

999
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: the summer. But I have allowed the Eagles they have

1000
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 1: successfully spooked me just with the way they talked about

1001
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: where they talk about him like he's just some guy

1002
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: who happens to be on the roster. They talk about

1003
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: like he's the someone guy who like stumbled in, Like

1004
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: the team is still like I guess we'll get this

1005
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: guy a chance. I mean, I don't know. I have

1006
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: stunned looking at the ADP that that Joe Burrow and

1007
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence are like the twelve and thirteen quarterbacks. What

1008
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: in what world would you want Joe Burrow coming off

1009
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: a torn a c L after everything, Like I wasn't

1010
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: that excited about him last year relatively for fantasy or

1011
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence with that surrounding and that coaching staff compared

1012
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: to like a Matt Ryan or Baker Mayfield. I think

1013
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: sometimes people get a little too cute like a bake,

1014
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: like Matt Ryan's gonna put up numbers. You just know

1015
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: he is. And so if you want to be right,

1016
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: and if you want if you want some upside, take

1017
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: Tray Lance, like I take Trey Lance, or take Justin

1018
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: Fields and don't even worry about your backup quarterback spot

1019
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: in the first month. You can totally wait like the

1020
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: everyone like draft for week one when they should be

1021
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: drafting for the whole season. And Lance especially seems like

1022
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: he has, you know, top five type upside if if

1023
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: everything went right, I will say with Burrow, the people

1024
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: are getting finally spooked with Joe Burrow, like do you

1025
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: like I like philosophical quotes from my quarterback if they're

1026
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: like over the age of thirty five, like Joe Burrow,

1027
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: I thought, was like talking like way to philosophically like

1028
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: the summer like a guy who's like twenty four, What

1029
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: do you mean? What what quotes? He was like maybe

1030
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: the one he said about like I don't know, maybe

1031
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: I won't trust my legs again. I mean he was

1032
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: saying basically that he will get there. Yeah, he was

1033
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: just kind of like I'm getting like us, like maybe

1034
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: this is who I am now. It's kind of what

1035
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: he was saying, Like he was like, maybe he wouldn't

1036
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: have like not that he's a dual threat. Some doubt

1037
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: is creeping in. Maybe that seemed to have creeped in,

1038
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 1: understandably so coming off the touring a c L. But yeah,

1039
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: Greg the jail or not the Trey Lance movement that

1040
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: I think people were like, this might have been like

1041
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: Trey Lance week if he had just like exploded over

1042
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: the weekend he didn't like dud, which you know, it's

1043
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: all the better, all the better. I like that he

1044
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: struggled in the preseason because that's gonna get people off him.

1045
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: But Shanahan's not off him. He's gonna be playing him

1046
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: in a jugger, not of an offense, potentially sooner than later,

1047
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: whether it's Week one or week six, Like that's so

1048
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: many times quarterback, more than other positions, you get guys

1049
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: that carry you that don't necessarily matter that much. In September,

1050
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: I will I will say with Trey Lance, I actually

1051
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: would respect the decision to not start him to begin,

1052
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: which I almost never say about a rookie quarterback. But

1053
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 1: like I have gotten like a little too fixated, probably

1054
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: on the fact that he's an FCS prospect who's played

1055
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: one game in two years and it was an exhibition

1056
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: I believe against Central Arkansas. It's like you don't just

1057
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: give the young man sometime, let him like sponge stuff

1058
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: up from Kylie Shannon's give the young man a little time,

1059
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: like so I throw him out there like week six

1060
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: or seven. I have actually feel like I don't have

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Speaker 1: a read you know what they're gonna do with trailing

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Speaker 1: I kind of actually, I really do believe it probably

1063
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: will be Jimmy Garoppolo week one, but like I kind

1064
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: of believe the rookie is gonna start until I see it.

1065
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: Like I just don't pay attention to any coach or

1066
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: whether have Zach Wilson, then Trevor Lawrence and and Borrow

1067
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 1: and and some of those guys up there too well Trevor.

1068
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: I feel like people were like over have been over

1069
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: projecting the legs for Trevor Lawrence, like he is like

1070
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: a big physical guy and he had the rushing touchdowns.

1071
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, man, if the Jacksonville Jaguars

1072
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: are really gonna be like letting Trevor Lawrence like run

1073
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: in like near the goal line? Are they really on

1074
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: the exposing him? It's like these huge linebacker hits. And

1075
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: I think that's the Trevor Lawrence like fantasy narrative has

1076
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: come from people like pull up a sports reference, Oh yeah,

1077
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: eight rushing touchdowns every year. This guy was gonna like

1078
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: the sneaky dual threat. But I'm having trouble that. You

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00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: wonder if the Travis Etienne injury now out for the year,

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00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: with that dredded Harlot Liz Frank strikes again, if maybe

1081
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: that will make people think, oh, maybe we'll have more

1082
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: of a goal line threat. We shall see. You know,

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00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: you really captured my imagination there. Rohdo Pat or NBC

1084
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: Sports Edge Pat with uh the the idea of the

1085
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: Life Hack QBS. I like that. I like that, and

1086
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: to me is the ultimate the guy lying in the

1087
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: weeds as an m v P and as the best

1088
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: Life Hack quarterback? Is it to you the man in Arizona,

1089
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: the man in the desert Kyler Murray another former number

1090
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: one overall pick or are there enough red flags whether

1091
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: it's the personnel around him or his head coach in

1092
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: the scheme? Uh and even his own issues with staying

1093
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: healthy and all that ulysses. And where do you come

1094
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: down on Kyler Murder You think he's a guy that

1095
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: can deliver you a superstar take me into the Promised

1096
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: Land season, I do, I'm not sure about. I was

1097
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 1: the media including I guess I'm including us in the media.

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00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: We all love Kyler Murray. So I could definitely see

1099
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: like an m v P narrative developing there in terms

1100
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Speaker 1: of like winning fantasy leagues. To me, So Gregg asked

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00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: me who I was drafting, and I didn't somehow didn't

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00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: mention Kyler murraycause they kind of always just draft Kyler

1103
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: Murray no matter what year it is, no matter if

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00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: it's dynasty or redraft, and or he is like the

1105
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: perfect modern fantasy quarterback because the only guy who has

1106
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: more explosive dynamic legs is probably Lamar Jackson. And then

1107
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: amongst like the dual threat types, he's like, I think

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00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: kind of by far the best pastor Like he's a

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00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: pure passer even though he even though he's a running quarterback,

1110
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: to like, he just pure in terms of like the

1111
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 1: way he like he likes to pass, like his mechanics. Uh,

1112
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: just I love his ball placement, even though he's been

1113
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: like he's still progressing as a pastor. Like amongst the

1114
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: guys who really like to run, I feel like he's

1115
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: the best past a lot of attempts to a lot

1116
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: of volume. Yeah, so much volume. And I just feel

1117
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: like he's like at that perfect crossroads of like the

1118
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: passing and the running where he he is beyond Pat Mahomes,

1119
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: who is the best American athlete on the planet. I

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Speaker 1: I do Tyler Murray, I just get over and over

1121
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: again and fantasy and like, I feel like he is

1122
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: like the embodiment of what you want in a modern

1123
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: fantasy court. Have you seen Yanke's first base with Anthony Rizzo?

1124
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: I thought you were, say, Luke voight, and I traded

1125
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: away trying to think currently, if you're right, you're right.

1126
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: I think you're right right now, not like historically, but

1127
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that this at this moment, Kevin Durant's

1128
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: having a pretty strong, strong year. But yeah, I don't

1129
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't get the difference between Mahomes and like Aaron

1130
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: Rodgers being one round and fifth round. Aaron Rodgers feels

1131
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: like if you feel like going safe at quarterback, there's

1132
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: no scenario that I foresee that Aaron Rodgers doesn't absolutely

1133
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: deliver you great numbers this year. And and it's the

1134
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: flip side to like, yeah, take the justin fields that

1135
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: has a top five upside, but it also isn't bad

1136
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: to just hit doubles. And there's no way Aaron Rodgers

1137
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: is missing this year. There's just no there's nothing. I

1138
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: don't see a huge difference between him and and the

1139
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: top guys at all. I think with Rogers it's as

1140
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: simple ast people open up his Pro Football Reference, they

1141
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: see his nine point one touchdown percentage from last year

1142
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: bolded because it led the league, and people are like, well,

1143
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: there's no way like his touchdown percentage will be that

1144
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: high again, instead of I mean it'll be fine, it'll

1145
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: be great, it'll be fine. Well, Greg Old, quarterbacks don't

1146
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: ever have success. And what about Dak do you have

1147
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 1: any concerns with him coming off the ankle, coming off

1148
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: this training camp that's been marred by the shoulder issue

1149
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: that's led to the reps and all that stuff. Do

1150
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: you are you full speed ahead when it comes to

1151
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott or you have some reservations and you're like, well,

1152
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: if I could choose between Deck and say, Aaron Rodgers,

1153
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: let me just go with the guaranteed double or the

1154
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: home run, or do you say I'll ride with Deck

1155
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: he's ready to roll. I think I have allowed myself

1156
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: to become hashtag concerned, where it's kind of like a

1157
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: weird situation where like, well, I wish I could just

1158
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: worry about the catastrophic ankle injuries come back. I wish

1159
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: I could just focus on that, and like, you can't

1160
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: even just focus your injury, like anxiety from Deck on

1161
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: his ankle anymore. Like the shoulder. I'm sure it's fine,

1162
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, it went from the classic. It's probably gonna practice,

1163
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, like tomorrow or Thursday too. Well, we're calling

1164
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: the Texas Rangers just to see what's going on with

1165
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: the shoulder. I like when they were like, it's nothing.

1166
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: What we're calling the rangers because they have no idea

1167
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: what this is. So that definitely raised my eyebrob. Why

1168
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: they were literally called the Texas Rangers to consult about

1169
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: his injury. They've gotta covered, They've got to cover there.

1170
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: I hope, Um, you don't hold it against me, by

1171
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: the way, that like we call Silver the big Fish

1172
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: because you know, you you know, it's it's sharp elbows

1173
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: in the fantasy industry. We're we're friends, you know obviously,

1174
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: Pat you know we worked together long time. Um, but

1175
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: I know there's like a lot of a lot of

1176
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: resentment potentially. I just I call him the big dog,

1177
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: not the big fish. It's the only disagreement there where

1178
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: Evans the leader of the industry. No one an NBC

1179
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: would ever say a bad worried about Evan. He's the god. Um,

1180
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: he's having so much success out on his own. He's

1181
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: like the leader of a movement. Basically, Evan. I worship

1182
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: at the altar of Evan still. See, it's almost like

1183
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: he's Evan is gain this position of power within the

1184
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: industry that you have to watch what you say because

1185
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: he's got sparrows around him, and if you say something

1186
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: to Evan, he might physically come down upon to just

1187
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: stand over you menacingly. Yeah, he'll he Evan's a rather

1188
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: rather large man. Yeah, he'll just menace me and make

1189
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: me take like eight gold Walker shots. Uh, which is

1190
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: something that happened one time. By the way. He's he's

1191
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: he's a he's a tough one to drink with. Uh.

1192
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: So it's hard to keep up. And finally, my last,

1193
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: my last question for you wrote a Pat, which rookie

1194
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: will be this year is justin Herbert and why is

1195
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: it Zach Wilson? So I know that the Zach Wilson

1196
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: train has left the station. I've noticed this theme has

1197
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: this week. It really did. People aren't taking him in

1198
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: fantasy drafts. He's probably going undrafted sometimes in in one

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Speaker 1: Q leagues. Now I'm not taking him for the uh,

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Speaker 1: the very scientific reason of like when I watched Zach

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Speaker 1: Wilson's cost so I'm a miszoo alum. When I watched

1202
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, uh, he reminded me so much of Drew

1203
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: Lock minus the interceptions thrown to linebackers constantly. It's like

1204
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: Drew Lock without the turnovers. Something that's good. The way

1205
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: his like physical college physical resemblance reminded me so much

1206
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,479
Speaker 1: of Drew Lock that, like my mus pre seasons wiped

1207
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: that away for me. Lock at no point was as

1208
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: like I'm glad though that Rolepat has has mentioned this

1209
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: because I did need someone to bring things down a

1210
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: little bit for me after the second preseason game and

1211
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: they Drew Lock in parison I'm a little bit closer

1212
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: now out of to the ground. Thank you. Yeah, this

1213
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: is when I watched his film. Uh yeah, I'm a

1214
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: big film watcher. I'm a noted film Yeah, noted tape

1215
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: dosh And like I said, it was good. It was

1216
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: like Drew Lock without the interceptions to linebackers. So I

1217
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: mean that could be really good as a player profile

1218
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: just well, well, I'm just taking a day of my

1219
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: day was actual, So I would say I am in

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Speaker 1: entree lance. Just when Cash and I was gonna say,

1221
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: whaten Kyle Shanahan hand picks someone? He has said not

1222
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: He's got a mixed track record lately with hand picking people.

1223
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: I'll say maybe beginning with like Tevin coleman Um, but

1224
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: when he hand picks the quarterback, was was a home runs,

1225
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: but I thought home run. I'm like they traded up

1226
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: for Dante Pettis. I'm gonna draft him in every dynasty

1227
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: league in existence, and then that didn't work out. Are

1228
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: you gonna sorry? Last last question, Um, whether it's a

1229
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: two QB league or you're just looking for a backup,

1230
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: you going near a Patriot quarterback in this draft? I

1231
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: mean the only one I would go near is yet

1232
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: uh Mr Mr Cameron Newton, although he's missing some pretty

1233
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: critical uh days of camp. I think that job felt

1234
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: close to locked up to me for Cam, and things

1235
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: are just set up so beautifully for that power of

1236
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: rushing attack and like can't there's some crazy fantasy stat

1237
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: I wish I could remember. I think maybe the Lord

1238
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: Rich Rebard tweeted it well. I think he had like

1239
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: his many Top eight Fantasy weeks last year. He had

1240
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: like more Top eight Fantasy weeks than like only four

1241
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: or five quarterbacks, you know, the other weeks he was like,

1242
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: you know then like below thirty. Uh, but that's the

1243
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: rushing is just so important in fantasy and they're set

1244
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: up so well to run. But yeah, now he's he's

1245
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: giving Mac Jones a runway to take the job where

1246
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: uh you know, Mac has really Cam had a six

1247
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: cecil preseason parents as maca the really successful appearance. He's

1248
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: looking good in practice. Tom Current, NBC Sports Boston thinks

1249
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: he could back door the job. And now Cam, despite

1250
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: being perfectly healthy because of his coronavirus goof uh you know,

1251
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: not knowing the protocol. It's not practicing for like the

1252
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: most critical week of practice of training camp, and I'm

1253
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: afraid he may have has maybe left the door Ajar

1254
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: for Mr mac all right, excellent work. Follow him at

1255
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: Rhodo pat uh NBC Sports still an amazing site to

1256
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: go to go to, even though Greg left, even though

1257
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: Levin Silver left and West left. When you have guys

1258
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Speaker 1: like Rhoto Pat anchoring the operation, they're almost like, I

1259
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: don't know why I am using a baseball reference the

1260
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Race, Like you think, oh, they can't survive this,

1261
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: they can't survive that guy. Le No, they keep thriving

1262
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Speaker 1: and building a championship contender. So check out that site,

1263
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: and of course read Rhoto Pat, and I sincerely do

1264
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: thank you. I I read you every during the season,

1265
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: and it makes me a smarter fantasy head. So thank you,

1266
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: good sir. It's truly my pleasure. And you just made

1267
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Speaker 1: me sound like I think I'm the most important NBC

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01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: employees since. And you've got a podcast to which I

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01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: joined like a month ago, and I was honking hard

1270
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: about Marcus Callaway and all the little fantasy experts on

1271
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: the show. We're like whenever now now it's now, it's

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01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 1: come around where everyone's in on Callaway, I would say,

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01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: I have a hundred percent Marcus Calloway exposure, as we

1274
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: say in the industry. Now he's gonna be a lot

1275
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: more expensive after what happened Monday night. But you were right,

1276
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 1: you were You've been beating that. That wasn't a necessary Colm.

1277
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I only remembered it because his

1278
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: buddy Danny reminded me on he's been fired. He's been

1279
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 1: he'd be fired, he's been. Let go. All right, There

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01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: he goes Rhodo Pat, Pat Dharty, thank you, buddy. There

1281
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: he goes Rhodo Pat. Is it just me Gregor? It

1282
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: is Pat to already have like a connor or vibe

1283
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: that just matches well with this show. Absolutely. He He

1284
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: is legitimately one of the funniest people I know. And

1285
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: West would always talk about that too, like a lot

1286
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: of people, a lot of sportswriters think they're funny, you know,

1287
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: Pats pets legit funny. But someone on Twitter pointed out

1288
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: something that blew my mind speaking of Connor, and I'm

1289
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: wondering for your take on it. You might have to

1290
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: listen to the tapes. Someone noticed that a Reef Hasan

1291
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: actually was my friend, my friend Adam who has a

1292
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: Great Saints Twitter podcast guest on Monday Show. Yeah, that

1293
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: a Reef Asan and connor Or sound a lot alike.

1294
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: Their voices are very similar. And then I thought about it.

1295
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I see that, is it possible

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01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: that we are all connor Or in some ways? Just

1297
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: like the tone of it and the way they talk.

1298
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: I can I can feel it. What if this is

1299
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: all just a simulation and Connor's running it like Algae

1300
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: Rhythm from Space GM two. I'm in trouble then I

1301
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: don't feel confident of about what's gonna happen to me.

1302
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: Like don Cheedle, you don't have to say yes to everything.

1303
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,439
Speaker 1: If a script lands in your lap and I said, hey,

1304
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: Space Jam sequel, Lebron's involved, that's pretty cool. You're gonna

1305
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: be the bad guy. Um, just a heads up. The

1306
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: character's name is Algae Rhythm, and you're a bad guy

1307
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: inside computer hard drive or something, and you're gonna be

1308
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: speaking for sent of the movie. I would say Algae Rhythm.

1309
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: It's like all Algae Rhythm, that's his movie. Maybe pass

1310
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: There are some red flags sometimes just simply through a name.

1311
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm just delighted that we're having a

1312
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,959
Speaker 1: breakout algae rhythm conversation on both of my podcast because

1313
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: we spent the solid fifteen minutes on the Jessel Nick

1314
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: and Rosa Tom talking about algae rhythm. Then this this

1315
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: development when your kids start to get old enough to

1316
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: go to the movies and stuff and you start seeing

1317
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: some of this stuff, It's like, WHOA, what is going

1318
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: on over there in Holly Weird? Am I right? Speaking

1319
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: of Holly Weird? Our next guest I just learned was

1320
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: on one of my favorite TV shows as like Head

1321
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: Nurse Number seven. Um, um the show and now really yeah,

1322
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: this is true story. I just this is research and

1323
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: this one pays off, just like in fantasy, research pays off.

1324
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: She is now really the boss over at Yahoo Fantasy.

1325
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: Liz Losa, Welcome back to the Round the NFL podcast.

1326
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Speaker 1: What was it like working with the great Key for

1327
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: Southern That is a whole evening we'll have to discuss.

1328
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: But actually, um, I only was supposed to have like

1329
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: three lines in the episode. But I am very good

1330
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: and this will shock you in no way. Given uh

1331
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: my now profession, I'm very good at managing men with

1332
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: short tempers and um, key for Sutherland in fact, fired

1333
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: another actor and gave me another episode and a promotion

1334
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: because he had a temper tantrum. And you know, thank

1335
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: you to my mother's dating history. I'm really good at

1336
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: um managing Brown toddlers for you. How about that? That's

1337
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: amazing I have and I have a great before we

1338
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: get into running Backstock with Liz, a really quick great

1339
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: Keefer story. Um a friend. This is back when I

1340
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 1: was living in New York. Keefer likes to go out

1341
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: and get loose and have fun. And he's my buddy's

1342
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: coming out of the bar. And who's kind of stumbling

1343
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: out of the bar, but it's Keefer Sutherland himself. And

1344
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: this at the height of twenty four theme and the

1345
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 1: guy my buddy, he was feeling no pain himself. He

1346
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: went up to Keep you and says, Keefer, you're my

1347
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: hero man. And then Keeper looks at him dead in

1348
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:47,440
Speaker 1: the eyes and goes, I'm no hero, I'm a disaster.

1349
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: I would say that's pretty um, pretty on point for

1350
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: what I experienced. But he went again. He was very

1351
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 1: very kind to me, and I got myself another episode,

1352
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: which as a whole I still get residuals from that show,

1353
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: so please keep watching. Wow, that's great itself gets um

1354
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: self awareness by him at least, and a sign of

1355
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: self confidence by you two that you're you've got a

1356
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: small part on this show and that you had um

1357
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: the confidence in who Liz Losa is to to be

1358
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: able to talk to the superstar and calm the situation

1359
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: down and just realize he's another person. He's a disaster.

1360
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. I don't know how we will

1361
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: running backs. Oh well, the running back landscape is also

1362
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: a disaster. Why is the running back landscape a disaster

1363
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: in the year, Well, we have a lot of this

1364
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: is no surprise in the year, but a lot of

1365
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: shared back field. We had a bunch of injuries just

1366
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. We have a bunch

1367
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: of like electric rookies with that's that have durability concerns,

1368
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,839
Speaker 1: and so like this running back dead zone, it's fantasy

1369
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: fans like to call it is a complete cadre of

1370
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: question marks. If you will like running back fifty five.

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01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: I tweeted my rankings and just wrote, blessed this mess

1372
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: because it could go either way. I think you could

1373
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: even extend that after you know, the top five or

1374
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: six that there was this I feel like awareness among

1375
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: fantasy heads. It's like running backs very volatile, it's very risky.

1376
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: You know. Wide receivers have as much upside sometimes and

1377
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 1: are such sure bets. And yet when I look at

1378
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 1: the average draft position, I'm the fantasy outsider. Now it

1379
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 1: feels like it's swung all the way back around because

1380
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all these picks and it's back to

1381
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: so running back heavy early. You know, guys I mentioned

1382
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones and Barkley getting you know, first round, but

1383
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 1: mixing and Edwards, Hilaire and Jacobs and Carson and Montgomery

1384
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: and like they're all going in round two or three

1385
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: against the best wide receivers in the league. And just

1386
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: as a philosophy, I don't I don't think I'm not

1387
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. I'm not touching any of those

1388
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: guys because to me, the receivers are all better bets almostly. Well,

1389
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: you're making a good point because in this like running

1390
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: back dead zone, in this glut of like you know,

1391
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: running back, like I said, running back fifteen to thirty maybe, um,

1392
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: that is where last year we found Stefon Diggs for example, right,

1393
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: Like that's where you're going to find some of those receivers.

1394
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: But it is just really hard to look at your

1395
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: roster and not but also that's where you found David

1396
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 1: Montgomery last year. So it is hard to look at

1397
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 1: your roster and not think about all of the facts

1398
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: and the construction and the balance that you're trying to achieve.

1399
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: And also, I mean, I'm not one who likes to

1400
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: say like I am zero RB or zero wide receiver.

1401
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: I think and this is something our our friend Chris

1402
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: Westling would say all the time, like just take the

1403
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: best player. Can get so frustrated, like I don't know,

1404
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: what are you trying to do? Just take the guy

1405
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: who's the best at the spot. That's what NFL teams do. Um.

1406
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of h like a

1407
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: lot of credence to that, and it makes a lot

1408
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: of sense. But I also think when you're actually in

1409
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: a draft, like I don't know if Chris Chris, if

1410
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: Chris Carson is the RB fifteen and he's available, I

1411
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: am not going to talk myself out of that talent

1412
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: because I know he won't stay on the field for

1413
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: now seventeen weeks in a season, right, But that is

1414
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: something that other people will do. So we mentioned Clyde

1415
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: Edwards Hlaire and I was one of those people who

1416
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 1: got sucked in last year. I think I took him

1417
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,799
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen and it all made on paper

1418
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: and everyone was telling me how specially was going to

1419
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: be and coming out of LSU he was such a stud. Um.

1420
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: We're hearing now the hype machine around him is building

1421
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 1: up again that he's more comfortable in the offense, that

1422
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,799
Speaker 1: he's been more involved in the passing game at training camp.

1423
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: Are you buying in on that breakout season that never

1424
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: happened last year happening in year two or is that

1425
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: somebody to stay away from for you? Well, I'm not

1426
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: staying away from him. He's my RB fourteen in my ranking,

1427
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: so just above that zone that I was talking about,

1428
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: he's in the on the bubble heading into the dead zone. Um,

1429
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: but I think you've got the draft pedigree, you have

1430
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: what look to be a special talented else. You also

1431
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: have a lit offense and um, the approval slash enjoyment

1432
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: from Patrick Mahomes. All of these things line up. I

1433
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: would say that he is not the workhorse and is

1434
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: probably not going to be the workhorse we anticipated, but

1435
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 1: that offense lifts enough that if he can start getting

1436
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: the passing down reps that you're mentioning, then I don't

1437
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: understand why he can't be a low end RB one,

1438
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 1: high end RB two. Yeah, And I like the way

1439
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: that their running game looks. In terms of their offensive line,

1440
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: they're starting three rookies. Orlando Browns have better run blocker

1441
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: like they they really got the tape heads excited during training.

1442
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: Came because, I mean during the priests, because they're showing

1443
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: a lot more like a lot more power running and

1444
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: like different schemes Andy Reid's using the preseason I think

1445
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 1: to tell people that, like, we are going to run

1446
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: the ball more. I though, like I'm with you, you

1447
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: should always just take every draft as it comes, and

1448
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 1: West would say I always said, like, always be flexible,

1449
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: just don't don't have set rules. But just kind of

1450
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: looking overall, I have a feeling I'm going to think

1451
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: those receivers are better and that you're gonna have to

1452
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: take some running backs late and work the waiver wire.

1453
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a handful of names I would

1454
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 1: love it running back. You tell me which ones I'm

1455
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: wrong or wrong about Mike Davis. Wow, I can't believe

1456
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: he's as late as he is for the Falcons. I

1457
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: could see him being a top five to ten running

1458
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: back uh in that situation. Javanti Williams love him. Damian

1459
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: Harris just love the talent, trace sermon. I'll even throw

1460
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: in a j Dillon like any one of those guys.

1461
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: If you're not taking running backs early, I feel like

1462
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 1: you get one later. Who who's your favorite or least

1463
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: favorite out of that group? Al Right? So my so,

1464
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: first of all, I agree with you on Mike Davis.

1465
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 1: I am guilty of I think Mike Davis suffers from

1466
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: the Tim Patrick syndrome because his name is Mike Davis, right, Like,

1467
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: You're just not expecting this baller, and all of the attention,

1468
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: frankly is on Kyle Pitts and Arthur Smith, the former

1469
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: tight ends coach working in this like wide receiver and actuality.

1470
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: So I think he is getting buried a little bit.

1471
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: But of the names you picked, I love Damien Harris.

1472
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: I've always I loved Damian Harris since he came out.

1473
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 1: People like to forget that Damian Harris was the RB

1474
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: one at Alabama ahead of Josh Jacobs. Even though Jacobs

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01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: had all these like flash plays, the knock against him

1476
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 1: was that he couldn't be a workhorse. And oh what

1477
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 1: are we seeing? Like efficiency issues probably linked to durability issues.

1478
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: And so the Raiders bringing Kenyan Drake to kind of

1479
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: solve that problem. We'll see if they can. Regardless, Damian

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01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: Harris is like a jack of all trades but a

1481
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: master of none. But he is reliable. We're seeing Sony.

1482
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 1: I mean this Sony Michelle News now going to Los Angeles.

1483
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: We had the clues the team didn't pick up his option.

1484
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick gushed as much as Belichick will gush about

1485
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: Harris um, and I just think this is a guy

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01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,839
Speaker 1: who can do everything. They have a rookie who's flashed

1487
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 1: in some places, who early on was combed by the

1488
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 1: RBS coach fears Um to be similar to la Garrett Blunt.

1489
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: So now I feel like Damian Harris is just forgotten

1490
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: because there is a narrative and we all get stuck

1491
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: in this recency bias nonsense. The narrative surrounding the Patriots

1492
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 1: is that you never trust the Patriots running back. Well,

1493
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: things change. We saw that in fact, particularly with the

1494
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 1: Patriots last year, Dan, that's a nod to you. And

1495
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 1: now you have Damien Harris as the RB one. I

1496
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: have him as my RB twenty. You said some big

1497
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: time Patriots running back years over the years, they pop.

1498
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't usually go one year after another. But Corey

1499
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,919
Speaker 1: Dillan certainly I love that with Harris. Their their offensive

1500
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: line should on paper is a top three run boxing

1501
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: offensive line, and especially if Cam starts, they're going to

1502
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: be just running the ball time. Who would you rather have,

1503
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: Liz Jonathan Taylor, who really obviously busted out down the

1504
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 1: shirts for the Colts last season, or se Kwan Barkley.

1505
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: I have him back to back. It's interesting to say

1506
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: that I have them back six and seven in my rankings. Um,

1507
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 1: I think when you look so the conundrum about Barkley

1508
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: to me is not coming back from the knee injury.

1509
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: That's one thing. I think he's going to be explosive.

1510
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: I think he's a lee enough of an athlete to

1511
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: regain what he was before. The question is he going

1512
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 1: to get the volume that he had the before and

1513
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: when you noticed the fact that he was the high

1514
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: draft capital, the second overall pick, and like the urgency

1515
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: on behalf of Gettleman in the front office to protect

1516
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: this investment. He's just not going to see the number

1517
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: of touches and particularly not the number of targets through

1518
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: the air, especially with all of these new path catchers

1519
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: added to the offense. So I think the issue with

1520
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: Barkley is like he's not He'll have the talent. He's

1521
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 1: just not gonna get the volume that we're used to. Taylor,

1522
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: to me, is a lesser proved talent. There's no Quentin Nelson.

1523
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about Carson Wentz. I think we probably

1524
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: overreacted to the injury, but I'm still not feeling great

1525
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: about that offense. And rich loves n he minds and

1526
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: Marlon Mack is healthy, so I don't think we're gonna

1527
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: get volume there either. So overall, when I judge those

1528
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: two situations, I'm going in the direction of Barkley because

1529
01:17:55,960 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 1: talent always breaks tiebreakers. I I worry about Partance. I

1530
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: would I would um. I don't know, just he wasn't

1531
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: that consistent runner before he got hurt. A lot of

1532
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,839
Speaker 1: show you know, a lot of like losses. Jason Garrett's

1533
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: the you know, a lot of you know, tackles for lost.

1534
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's the play caller. You you mentioned West earlier

1535
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: that that reminds me and and our listener should know

1536
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: Liz is um on this show because you know she's

1537
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 1: such a We got to know Liz through through West.

1538
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: Great great friend, longtime friend of West. He he. I

1539
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: remember when he called Jonathan Taylor one of the top

1540
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: five or six running backs in the league around like

1541
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: week fourteen last year. I was like, whoa like? And

1542
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 1: and I think it was right just in terms of

1543
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: pure talent. You're right about the situation is not perfect

1544
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: there for him. But if if I'm betting on just talent,

1545
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: I actually would go on Jonathan Taylor's talent at this

1546
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: point over Barkley coming off an injury just because the

1547
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 1: injury has It's just there's too much even if there's

1548
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: like a fifteen percent chance that Barkley is like her

1549
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: and never the same like, I'm just gonna take a

1550
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: guy that's not her right now and Johnathan, I think

1551
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: that it depends on the evaluation then, right. My my

1552
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: issue with not saying that Taylor is as health or

1553
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: as talented right now is that the benefit of running

1554
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: behind Wisconsin's offensive line in college, right, So that's helpful.

1555
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: One has never had a good offensive line. That still

1556
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: remains the case, and now without Plentin wealth Nelson, I'm

1557
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: worried that, like one or two more injuries, what does

1558
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 1: Taylor's efficiency actually look like? We we don't know what

1559
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: it looks like behind a thin offensive line. UM, and

1560
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: my last question for you, Mslissa, which is listen. Mark

1561
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: Sessler is recovering right now. He's gonna be back, hopefully

1562
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: at either end of this week or next week. So

1563
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm on his behalf. As I did on Monday, I

1564
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,719
Speaker 1: must bring up Jake Funk, the number two, thirty third

1565
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: overall pick in the NFL draft. What is the Sony

1566
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: Michelle acquisition mean for Jake Folk? Can? I'm not I

1567
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: didn't know that Mark was sick, though, please give him

1568
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: my best eyed doorm and I'm bummed he's not here

1569
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: to join. Um. I you, oh, you work in fantasy

1570
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: when you have nugs on all of these players. And

1571
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 1: I am drafting an all rookie squad article that's gonna

1572
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 1: run next week and Jake Funk was prior to this

1573
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: morning's news. UM. On that list are Charles Robinson, who's

1574
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 1: our NFL insider at Yahoo Sports went to training camp

1575
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: and the staff was super high on Funk. They were like, Nope,

1576
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: we're not going to bring in a vet. It's Funk.

1577
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 1: It's Funk. And then like Xavier Rhods I believe his

1578
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: name is, was like running in the preseason and I

1579
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 1: was like, well, I said, but then Funk had a

1580
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: really good week two preseason game. I do think when

1581
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 1: you see Sony Michelle coming in, though, all the like

1582
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: man to like a fifth and sixth round conditional twenty

1583
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: two pick is like not a lot of anything. But

1584
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: I do think we have to then imagine that Sony

1585
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 1: Michelle is the backup to Darryl Henderson. But I also

1586
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: don't think that they did anything about that until Henderson

1587
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: hurt his thumb. I think that everybody was like, uh,

1588
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: they think Henderson's the guy. They're worried about his durability.

1589
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 1: Now his thumbs an issue. You see the trade for

1590
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle, but Sony Michelle has not been the picture

1591
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 1: of hell. I think that Funk is gonna get like,

1592
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: here's my bold prediction for Mark Sessler. I think Funk

1593
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: is going to have two top twenty fantasy outings in

1594
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: twenty two. That would be a big win at this point. Yeah.

1595
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's a guy, you know, when he's drafted

1596
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: hoping that he makes the team. So that's that's a

1597
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: big time numbers out of the realm of possibility, right.

1598
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 1: I like it they can both get. Do you have

1599
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: any other guys sort of late in the draft that

1600
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: you like, maybe not that late, but you know, mid

1601
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: mid to late when whenever that that is on a

1602
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: lot of loads of teams that you well, I am drafting, Well,

1603
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 1: first of all, I'm drafting Robby Anderson. He's not late,

1604
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 1: but he's too late everywhere. I think he needs to

1605
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: get some respect put on his name. The amount of

1606
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 1: the like complete rebrand that he was able to handle

1607
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 1: last year is very impressive, but super late. My guy

1608
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 1: is Gerald Everett, tight end, former Ram now reuniting with

1609
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: his former position coach they Shane Waldron in Seattle, and

1610
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: I think even if like Russ doesn't cook like even

1611
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: at a simmer, Gerald Everett has a chance to be

1612
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: number three in targets in that offense. And for a

1613
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 1: tight end who's going in the like sixteenth rounds of

1614
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 1: twelve team exercises, I think he's a great dart throw.

1615
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 1: He is there. You're right, he's their third receiver. They

1616
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: don't have a third receiver. And Russ sneaky likes feeding

1617
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: tight ends. He just never has a good one. Ever.

1618
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 1: It's always hurt too. They always have like seven of them.

1619
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 1: But if you add up all their numbers, it always

1620
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 1: adds up pretty good. You're right that Everett could could

1621
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: be a little Well, there's no Greg Olsen, there's no Hollister,

1622
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: and there's no David Moore. So that's like a hundred

1623
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: and fifty vacated books. She keeps. She keeps poorly behaved

1624
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: men in line and just delivers fantasy knowledge, uh, like

1625
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,560
Speaker 1: a faucet running on high. And also she gets residuals

1626
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: what do they call that in the industry, They call

1627
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: that mailbox money. You get that mailbox money, uh, from

1628
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,759
Speaker 1: the Fox Corporation every month or so. So everything's cooking

1629
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 1: for Lizlow. So I guess that's what I'm saying. I

1630
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: guess everything everything is cooking. Yeah, and we've got f

1631
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 1: one but I can't. You guys, you guys have got

1632
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: to have started to watch Survived, to drive right, to survive,

1633
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: I have watched I have watched a couple episodes and

1634
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: I meant to finish finish it off. I've watched some

1635
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: F one in my time a little bit. It was

1636
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: recommended to me highly that program I have not dove in,

1637
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: and it is and I would love actually a Mark

1638
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 1: Sessler driven pod about F one on the inspiration, on

1639
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 1: the inspirational heels of having watched drive the survey. He

1640
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,919
Speaker 1: doesn't enjoy driving cars, you know, he's kind of anti

1641
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: food and anti cars in general. But that would be

1642
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: that would make it, I think it even more. There's

1643
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 1: the hook. That's the whole hook of it. Liz, I

1644
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: will I will give Mark that, I'll give me your

1645
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: regards and I'll give him that little career tip. But

1646
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us and best of luck this

1647
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 1: season and hope to see you at a league tent

1648
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 1: pole event in the not so distant future. Thanks so much, guys,

1649
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:14,759
Speaker 1: have to see you soon. You know. Liz was awesome,

1650
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: all the guests awesome. This was a really good, strong

1651
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:22,799
Speaker 1: edition of the Fantasy Extravaganza. As we we we seek

1652
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: to give you the listener the perfect fantasy draft and

1653
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: have the perfect season. And it is perfect to me

1654
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 1: that even after last year's struggles and how he bungled

1655
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 1: and you'll never convince me otherwise the end of the

1656
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,480
Speaker 1: Tom Brady era that I could still see a headline

1657
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: like I'm reading right now from CBS Sports dot Com.

1658
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle trade grades Colan Bill Belichick works as magic

1659
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: again while Rams gained viable running back. You mean the

1660
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,440
Speaker 1: same Bill Belichick that took Sony Michelle thirty one overall

1661
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: in Tell me how these draft picks that he's gained

1662
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: in this trade is a indication of his magic, Please, stupid.

1663
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. It's not a bad trade

1664
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: for either side either, but you don't need to make

1665
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: it into something and into it's not. It's too late

1666
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: round conditional picks, which might turn into very little at most.

1667
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: It's like one, you know, at least, it's like one

1668
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 1: late round pick. It's it's nothing. It's just getting to

1669
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: pick an undrafted player essentially in front of anything. It's

1670
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 1: just as a sign they have a bunch of running

1671
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,759
Speaker 1: backs on their roster that they like and that's fine,

1672
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: um a bunch of yes. But still in the media

1673
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: carrying his water right, I agree with you. This is

1674
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: not an example to make any take one way or another.

1675
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,799
Speaker 1: It's fine. It's fine for both sides. Um and Sony

1676
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: Michelle was taken over Lamar Jackson. All reports indicate that

1677
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: they were thinking hard about taking Lamar Jackson. I'll never

1678
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 1: forget it. And by the way, he was also taken

1679
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 1: over another Georgia running back, taking very soon in that

1680
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: same draft after them, named Nick Chubb. So yes, I

1681
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: I saw your tweets. People who are like Sony Michell

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Speaker 1: won them as super Bowl It's like, yeah, I'll never

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01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 1: forget that playoff run by Sony Michelle. They did get

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01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 1: one more super Bowl, and he played very well in

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01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: that stretch. But you don't think they could have filled

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01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,640
Speaker 1: in that production with someone else, with Antoine Smith or

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01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: La Garrett Blunt or whoever it is that they found

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01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 1: to you know, hand the ball off. It's like they

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01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: would have found someone. It was a fan and it

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01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 1: was a bad It does pop out every once in

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01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: a while, good stuff, really good stuff. I feel more

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01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 1: prepared for my draft. Do you have a draft? Greg?

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01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: Are you completely out there? Do you have a league?

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01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: You have to admit him out? Yeah? That's fun. You know,

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01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 1: you don't have to admit it. It's fun. I think

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01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: it's a way for you to like sometimes you'll like

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01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: you'll do that thing like I'm different, Like I'm not

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01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: going to get a peloton, I'm gonna get a Nordic

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01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: track because I'm off the beaten path. I'm not going

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01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: to do a fantasy league because that's what you do

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01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 1: as a basic I think that's kind of what the

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01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 1: angle you're playing here. But that's I respect you for

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01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. That says more about you that that's

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01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: how you interpreted it. Because of course I did keep

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01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: Fantasy League going one or two for a while after

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01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: leaving Rhoda World, but I I found I got nothing

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01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 1: out of it that I really got. I got a

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01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: little bit of stress and no enjoyment. It's funny we

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01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: even have this one and last thing to worry about.

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01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: We have this stupid fun league that we do just

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01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 1: like Connie Gonzo, mark Erica, myself, just like a fun

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01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 1: little like an NFL media hive group. And you didn't

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01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: even do that with us, And it was just everybody

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01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, we're on this private text change.

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01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 1: It's like burying you. Like we're all just like, what's

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01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 1: wrong with Greg? Why can't he just have fun with us.

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01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: But he needs to make this stance about how he's

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01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: above fantasy life. It's it's it's um and the immortal

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01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: words of Don Draper like fantasy football to me, like

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01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 1: that's what the money's for. Like that's not really the

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01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 1: context it's for at all, But it's like like I

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01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 1: got into it. I loved playing in those high I

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01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 1: love the high stakes league. I loved like playing for

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01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: my rent or like you know, paying for a trip

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01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: to I loved playing for the money. I didn't I

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01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: wasn't playing for like the the to the scratching that

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01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: certain you're not allowed. You're not allowed to at the

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01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: NFL play for uh for money and um or over

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01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: Like it's a very small amount of league, and it's

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01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: like what's the point, Like I have enough distractions and

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01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 1: all right, fair enough. But for the millions of other listeners,

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01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: UM and fans of our league, this is a big

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01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. So best of luck to all

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Speaker 1: of you with your drafts. And remember my bit of

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01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 1: advice I give every year, Uh friends do let friends

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01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 1: drink and draft, but just make sure it's not you.

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01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: Just hold back on the drinking until you get out

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01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 1: of that, you know, ninety minute window of your draft,

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01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: then cut loose with your buddies. That's all I got

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01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 1: for you. Do you have any advice for the fans

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01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: of the sport fantasy sport Greg before we take well,

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01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,759
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of duck dailing off. Yeah, that West advice,

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01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: which I really believe. And don't worry about the rank.

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01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 1: You know, draft the team you want, draft and drafted

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01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: better players, like who's better at football matters a lot

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01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 1: more than um the situation, Like, don't don't worry about

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01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 1: being bold, like I would much rather have Terry McLaurin

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01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 1: than Sae Kwan Barkeley, Like I don't care that it's third,

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01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, the adp than versus six or seven. Just

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01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: take who you want. You know, if you're in love,

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01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: if you're in love with the Chiefs and watching Patrick

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01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes and you have a chance to take Patrick Mahomes,

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01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey, it's mostly luck anyways. Old

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01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, old Clyde in the corner making fun of

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01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: you for your pick. He doesn't know anything either, is

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01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 1: it Clyde Edwards Hilair? I do I do remember some

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01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 1: very making fun of you for picking Clyde Edward. I

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01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: do remember some very aggressive NFL analysts bragging about taking

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01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hilaire like first overall and like people are

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01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: people are to see? All right, never again, all right,

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01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 1: good stuff, we'll be back. Well, we'll do a bunker

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01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 1: cast on Friday, just get you or Thursday getting you

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01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: caught up on the news that's transpired since the last

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01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 1: Monday episode. UM So keep an eye off for that.

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01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,600
Speaker 1: But until then, UM, enjoy this podcast, maybe bookmark it,

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01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 1: listen to it again. Right before your draft. We guarantee

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01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: you we'll win you some guap. All right, the perfect draft,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're going for. Till Thursday. He ca