1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Ah, beaut force. If it doesn't work, you're just not 2 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to Software Radio, Special Operations, military 3 00:00:25,520 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: news and straight talk with the guys and the community. 4 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: Soft rep dot com on time on target. We're live 5 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: streaming this one, I mean in Scotto. James Powell in 6 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: studio with me, former intelligence officer and marine writer for 7 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: soft rep dot com. Thank you for coming over from 8 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: the New Jersey Philadelphia region. Thank you for having me again. Man. Yeah, dude, 9 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: it's always good having you in here. So, I guess 10 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: for the audience, they probably want to know what you've 11 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: been up to. You've been writing, and you wrote some 12 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: pieces in December. I saw, um the jps um adventures 13 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: and spy Land stuff, just just some anecdotal stuff from 14 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: my time when I was at the agency. Um, it's 15 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: it's pretty it's pretty vague, but it's still fun because 16 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: there's only certain things that I can say. But I'm 17 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: actually working on the third part of it right now. Nice. Yeah, 18 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: and then I'll wrap it up with something that kind 19 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: of puts it all together, so that'll be on soft 20 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: rep dot com. Um. I guess for the audience who 21 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: hasn't seen those pieces, do you want to give like 22 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: a little synopsis and then teasier for them to chuck 23 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: it out. So um, and for anyone that's read it, it's, 24 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: like I said, it's very general because I can't be 25 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: specific about whether it was a training exercise or a 26 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: real world situation. Um, those who have been in the 27 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: business will know probably more than likely once they read it. 28 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: But whether it's training exercise or it was real real 29 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: world you can, it all carries over one into the other. 30 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: So basically it starts with me getting into an airport 31 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: and sweating, like you know, like it was a hundred 32 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: degrees out because from the time that I got into 33 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: that area to the time that I left, I knew 34 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: that I was under observation and I could be arrested 35 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 1: or detained at any time. So just talks about that, 36 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: you know, the preparation that goes into that kind of stuff. 37 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: Then something as simple as checking into my hotel room, 38 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, um and getting into the hotel room. For 39 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: other people, it might be you know, simple, hey, get 40 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: my key, go to my room, you know, relax a 41 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: little bit or whatever. But um, for me, and I 42 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: was very new at the time that I was doing this, 43 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: it was check into the room, get into the room, 44 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: and then start prepping for what I had to do 45 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: my whole reason for being there. And uh so it 46 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I didn't do it, but it 47 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: was like you know, you've seen the movies, you know, 48 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: look out the door before you close it and then 49 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: lock it. You know, it locked the door, and it 50 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: was a rule make sure your door, your room was 51 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: locked at all times. Um. And then I started planning 52 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: what I had to do. So for this, I had 53 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: a series of meetings that I had to do, so 54 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: I needed You can't just go into this, you know, 55 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: fly into countries or wherever you're at, and uh just 56 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: call somebody and say, hey, can we meet. I mean 57 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: you could if you you really had to, but you 58 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: really want to plan these things ahead of time. So 59 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: the people that I was meeting with, we're supposed to 60 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: meet with new ahead of time that I was coming. 61 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: So this is already pre planned. But what wasn't planned 62 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: was where and what time. So then you have to 63 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: do legwork. You know, we call map at first, some 64 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: people call it that. You know, I look at a 65 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: map of the area that I'm in, which I had 66 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: already looked at before. But I'm double checking it, uh, 67 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: looking at possible places to meet, and then I go 68 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: out in the streets and I'll walk around and you know, 69 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 1: get the lay of the land, get to know the city, 70 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: the transportation, uh, public transplation and those sorts of things, 71 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: and try to pick a few spots that you you know, 72 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: might make sense. And I say makes sense because you 73 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: could pick like a restaurant across the street here and 74 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: be like, oh, this is perfect. You know, um, signal 75 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: that person or hit that person up, say let's meet 76 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: here at this time, and then you get there and 77 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: they're not open for another two hours. So you're standing 78 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: outside of this place in broad day, like, you know, 79 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: waiting for this person, and then they're thinking it's at 80 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: that time, so they show up. So now you have 81 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: an intelligence officer and a possible asset you know, um 82 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: in the same place at the same time. And if 83 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: security you know forces are around or police or an 84 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: intelligence agency, well, now you just put two people together 85 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: that become of interest. So now you're really going to 86 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: be under observation. So there's that. So it was hours 87 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: and hours of walking around this city, um, you know, 88 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: getting to know the city and getting to know different 89 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: places UH. And also I also talk about in the 90 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: first one I think is the first one might have 91 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: been the second part where there are certain don't when 92 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: it comes to UH meetings, Like you don't want to 93 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: have a meeting where number one, where there's a ton 94 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: of cameras around, although in some cities, especially now, that's 95 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: hard to do. That's hard to avoid, I should say. Um, 96 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: you also don't want to have meetings UH in around 97 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: schools because I'm a forty four year old guy and 98 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: if I'm standing around at school, that's going to cause 99 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: an issue. UM. Churches you try to avoid too, because 100 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, plays the worship people people know each other. 101 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: So if you're sitting in the parking lot waiting for 102 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: a car pickup, you know, to pick up your an 103 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: asset or a possible asset, and people are like, that's 104 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: who's that guy. I don't recognize him, you know from church, 105 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: somebody can call the cops. You also don't want to 106 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: have it near police station or a military base or 107 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: somewhere where there's going to be heightened security, banks, things 108 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: like that. So you want to eliminate all those those 109 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: types of areas. UM. So I talked about that a 110 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: little bit, and uh, once I had done all that, 111 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, I get back to my room. Okay, I've 112 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: got some possible areas. I you know, um contact the 113 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: person and say, hey, does this work for you? Or 114 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: I'll give them a couple of choices. They can come 115 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: back and say, hey, why don't we try this spot? 116 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: Or the better o thing is I pick and say 117 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: this is where we're going to meet at this time. 118 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: You want to try to avoid as much as possible 119 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: letting them control the meeting, the situation because if for 120 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: some reason, you know there, um they're a false uh 121 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, they're not really going to work through. They're 122 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: trying to catch you and they're working for the bad 123 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: guys or the opposition. Well now you just let them 124 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: tell you where to show up so that they can have, 125 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, roll you up. So it's um that kind 126 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: of stuff. So we're streaming live on Facebook, on YouTube, 127 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: on twitch. Um. Third part of this is going to 128 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: be out when are you're thinking, I'm in the middle 129 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: of writing it now, so I would say by mid 130 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: next week. Alright, So yeah, check that out from James 131 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: Powell on soft rep dot com. If you're watching the 132 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: live stream, you'll see that the title of this is 133 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: UM the winner Olympics UH in South Korea. And before 134 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: we go into that, I just want to put an 135 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: apology out there. The last time I was year, I 136 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: put out that if anybody needs you know, because I 137 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: do recruiting for naval intelligence, you can contact me and 138 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: I'll do what I can. UM. I know there are 139 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: people who did yeah, and there are some who I 140 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: I don't know whether I responded or not. So if 141 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: I didn't, please hit me up again, and I will 142 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: be sure that I do. It's a separate account, and 143 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't always get alerts for that account, so I 144 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: don't always know. I have to consciously going and check it. 145 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: So I apologize in advance if I didn't reply, or 146 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: if I said, hey, I'll get back to you with 147 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: this and I didn't. Just hit me up again and 148 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: remind me. Where is the best place to reach you? UM? 149 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: Should they send it to me? Send it to you, 150 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: and then to send it to soft rep dot radio 151 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: at soft rep dot com. We'll take any uh. Oh 152 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: bread is asking where the twitch link is? You know it, 153 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: I'll send it right over. It's just yes, Twitch dot 154 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: tv slash soft rep radio. I actually don't know a 155 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: whole lot about Twitch yet. UM. I was just gonna 156 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: ask you what is twit? Yeah? Twitch, there seems to 157 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: be a lot of gamers on there and stuff, but 158 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: trying to reach like new audiences. So if you're on there, 159 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: I still got to figure out more like I don't 160 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: know how to save our live videos. I would like 161 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: to figure out how to do that. Um on YouTube. 162 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: It's automatically save on Facebook, it is. But as I said, 163 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: we'll get into the South Korea stuff. Another really quick 164 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: piece of um news I guess to mention though, and 165 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: it's up on software dot com and elsewhere. Um. Eric 166 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: Wrighton's the Missouri governor. Uh, former Navy seal now has 167 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: allegations of an affair and more seriously, blackmail over a 168 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: nude picture. I don't know if you saw that. I 169 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: glanced at something about it on the train. UM, but yeah, 170 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: it's I mean, I think as people step into the 171 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: spotlight of politics or you know, um whatever it is, Hollywood, 172 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: whatever it is, you better make sure that either a 173 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: you're squeaky clean or B that you're ready to step 174 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: out in front of this stuff. You like, you need 175 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: to really sit down with your people and be like, listen, 176 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: this is what I did when I was eighteen, or 177 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: this is what I did last week. How are we 178 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: gonna get out in front of this stuff before it 179 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: comes out? Because we see with the whole um, what 180 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: does it mean to hashtag? It's just exploding, So it's 181 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: better to get out in front of it. It's weird though, 182 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: because it's changed a little bit with Donald Trump. I mean, 183 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: people when they saw that the infamous Billy Bush video 184 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: come out, they were like, this is gonna sink him, 185 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: and it did not. The biggest victim in that thing, 186 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I think was Billy Bush. She didn't do anything. I 187 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: don't know how he lost his job, Like, I don't 188 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: know what he was supposed to do. He laughed at 189 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: the president making a certain remark, and uh, he went 190 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: about his day, you know, like I don't know. It's 191 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: kind of weird that they would expect him to be like, 192 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, not Mr President at the time, but Mr Trump, 193 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: that's an inappropriate language exactly. I don't think anyone is 194 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: gonna say that. So, yeah, Billy Bush, she was definitely 195 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: a victim in that. But yeah, I think it's a 196 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: changing time because you do have major outrage on on 197 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: both sides. You have like this huge anti politically correct movement, 198 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 1: I would say, on the and then you have a 199 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: incredibly politically correct movement on the left. And one of 200 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: the big problems with the me too thing, I think 201 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: is that everything falls into one under one category. So 202 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: like this guy once grabbed some woman's ass falls under 203 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: the same category as like a guy who raped and 204 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: sexually assaulted someone. There's got to be a variation between 205 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: these and I agree with that. Um first and foremost, 206 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: I agree that none of that stuff is okay because 207 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: I have two daughters, you know, and they know, you know, 208 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: and anybody that knows me knows that, Um, you look 209 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: at my daughter wrong and I'm whipping somebody's ass. But 210 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: you told the story yeah earlier. So um, as a 211 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: father that's you know, and a husband, that stuff speaks, 212 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, very dearly. Man, I don't think any of 213 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: it's okay. But I agree, like you said, to put 214 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: everything in one category, especially if that category holds the 215 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: same punishment. Then we're starting down a really slip reslope 216 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: because um, I think I might have been talking to 217 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: Jack about it. You can think back as a male 218 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: especially and I'm sure there's some females you can think 219 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: back and be like that probably could have counted as sexual. 220 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: So anything you could have said to somebody, hey, you 221 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: look really nice today, and if they felt like, you know, 222 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: are you saying that because you know my dress is 223 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: low cut? Or you're saying but you know, if they 224 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,119 Speaker 1: felt uncomfortable, well now they can say that you know you. Um, 225 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if it would count as assault, but 226 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, harassment or something like that. And so, you know, 227 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a slipperslap. Do I think it needs 228 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 1: to stop, like oh we just stop talking about it 229 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: and stop dealing. No, absolutely not. It should be an 230 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: ongoing thing. Yeah. Uh. Actually a few months back, Rick 231 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: Onnger was in here doing the Power of Thought, um, 232 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: former CEO of Marvel, and he was saying like, look, 233 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: there is a difference between uh, some of the bad 234 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: stuff we've heard. And then also he was saying like 235 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: former President Bush, you know, saying some maybe lewd comment 236 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: He's like with his wife there, did you really feel 237 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: threatened by this man in a wheelchair? You know? So 238 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: it's it's an interesting thing, um, But getting into the 239 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: gist of what we did want to talk about, and 240 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: what I know you wanted to talk about. We are 241 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: one month away from the Winter Olympics being held in 242 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: pyeng Chang, South Korea. Uh. And related to that, North 243 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: Korea has agreed to send a delegation there to hold 244 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: talks um in Soul to ease military tensions. UM. So 245 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear your take on all of this, 246 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: on on you know, the tension between North Korea and 247 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: the US, North Korea and South Korea. UM, it's a 248 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: really strange time to be holding the Winter Olympics anywhere 249 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: in Korea. Absolutely, yeah, it is. UM. I think that 250 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: it's a good thing that they're holding it there. It's 251 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: always a good thing for any country when you know 252 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: you're you're chosen to hold the Olympics. It's supposed to 253 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: bring people together, the world together. So I think it's 254 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: a good thing, and I think it's being held for me. 255 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: It's at the right time because with all of this tension, 256 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: this is an opportunity, as we see, maybe ease that 257 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. Having said that, from when I first 258 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: started hearing about this and then research it a little 259 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: bit and looked it up, my overarching question, which I 260 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: still gonna answered, is what is North Korea giving up 261 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: by doing this? You know, what are they you know, 262 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: if we sit across the table from one another on 263 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: South Korea and North Korea. South Korea, I think it's 264 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: already um agreed to suspend their push back their military 265 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: exercises with the US. I think it's till April or 266 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: something like that. Um, that sort of thing. And what 267 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: is North Korea really giving up? They've already said before 268 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: they even sat down, we are not going to stop 269 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: pursuing our nuclear arsenal. We're just not. UM. So that's 270 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: off the table. They didn't want to talk about that. 271 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: UM So it seems to me they're gaining more than 272 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: they're getting. But that doesn't mean that it shouldn't the 273 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: talk shouldn't be held. Uh. I think that South Korean president, 274 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: he's from the reports that I've seen, people are gonna 275 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: start saying that he's cow towing to North Korea, which is, 276 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's a dangerous thing. He did run on 277 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: the platform that I am. You know, I'm going to 278 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: push for talks to North Korea. Agree, he did what 279 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: he said he was gonna do. But now he's got 280 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: to be careful about what is South Korea and the 281 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: United States getting out of this. I don't even know 282 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: if maybe you know, I don't even know if the 283 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: US is gonna have anybody at these talks, or has 284 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: anybody at these talks. Maybe one of the listeners knows, 285 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: But um, I think that as an from the intelligent 286 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: side of the house, we would want to know going in, 287 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: and I'm sure we would sit down with our South 288 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: and half sat down on the South Korean counterparts and 289 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: found out what they have on their agenda, what they're 290 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: talking points are, and then does anyone know what North 291 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: Korea's talking points are gonna be? People would think, oh, 292 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: it's just a list, you know, it's just a piece 293 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: of paper. But if you can you know ahead of 294 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: time what your opposition is going to want to talk about, 295 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: you can better maneuver yourself into a position of power. 296 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: So that's a pretty important thing. So it'll be interest 297 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: see what comes to this. Yeah, when you're talking about, um, 298 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: the US being there and not being there. From what 299 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I still remember back with the Bush 300 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,479 Speaker 1: administration and you'd hear, you know, we do not negotiate 301 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: with terrorists. Um. I remember even some pushback with getting 302 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: the journalists back, um, which I know it was Ling 303 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: with it, Lisa Ling or laure Ling. I know their sisters, 304 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: sister Laura was the sister. Yeah. And I remember Bill 305 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: Clinton having to take photos with Kim John Ill at 306 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: the time, or King Kim Jong Un. I wasn't Yeah, 307 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: I think it was ill. Um. I think there's prior 308 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: to Ill passing. And I remember that was highly controversial thing, 309 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, because it puts them in a position of 310 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: power to take these pictures with a former president. Um. 311 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: And it is weird they demand interesting things to take 312 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: a picture with a former president. You know, what, what 313 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: exactly do you get out of that? Um? You know, 314 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: it's just much like what do you get out of 315 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: bringing Dennis Rodman over there? Um? So I just always 316 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: think of that narrative of we don't negotiate with purished, 317 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: and like, would the US really want to sit down 318 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: at the table with this guy's threatening to use nuclear weapons? 319 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: I think I think at the end of the day 320 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: that it would be not a waste of time, but 321 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: I think it would go right just back to square 322 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: one or maybe you know, square half. We might get 323 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: a little something out of it, but I think North Korea, 324 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this is going to 325 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: be a hey, we tried kind of thing. We're just 326 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: gonna go back to what we're doing. And I know 327 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: that a lot of people are freaking out because uh, 328 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: President Trump said, you know, he took credit for he 329 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: said this is because of me. That um, you know, 330 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: these talks are happening, and it is it is because 331 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: of him. Do I agree with how we got to 332 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: this point? No, I mean say whatever you want. You know, 333 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm a patriot on this and that you know, um, 334 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: we need to be tough with them, and you know 335 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: that's great, that's all well and good, But at the 336 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: end of the day, what does it actually do. I mean, 337 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: there it's like when my kids were a little and 338 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: they would throw a tantrum and you go to pick 339 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: them up and they stiffen up. You know, they're like, 340 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, they're like deadweight. That's exactly what North Korea 341 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: is done. They listen, they see the tweets. They they 342 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: just in trench themselves even further, not saying that we 343 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: shouldn't like we should talk to him with kid gloves 344 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: or he shouldn't be like that. Don't be no not 345 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: at all. But that'll only go so far. You know, 346 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: it's got to be in addition to our intelligence work. Diplomacy. 347 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: Diplomacy is to me, is is going to be the 348 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: most important piece of this puzzle. Well, the only talks 349 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: that we've seen really is you know, the tweets Trump 350 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: and then and then of course Won calling President Trump 351 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: a dotard, which had people googling, what is Yeah that 352 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of name calling back and forth. 353 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: There's you know, it's it's it's very strange that it is. 354 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: It really is. It's it's I think now that that 355 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, Korea or North Korea side, the Twitter is 356 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: going to be the thing now, I think, and um, 357 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: it will be Twitter diplomacy. And but I believe that 358 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: the diplomacy period that is the key to this whole thing. 359 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: And in diplomacy you can say, hey, we want to 360 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: work with you, but if you get out of hand, 361 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: you're getting smacked, you know that sort of thing. You 362 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: can we can fly b ones over you know, um 363 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: near the d m Z and all. What do you 364 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: want to do those things? That's I don't I personally, 365 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: I mean, who am I? But I don't have a 366 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: problem with that. It shows, Hey, we have the capability, 367 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: but that can't be the only thing we rely on. 368 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: And I think I believe General Maddis said that exact 369 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: same thing. Can't be the only thing that we you know, 370 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: that we rely on. Yeah, well said Um, I'm looking 371 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: at some of the comments here, like I said, like this, 372 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: if you're watching on Facebook, share it, whether you're watching 373 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 1: on YouTube, twitch, we want to get our visibility up 374 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: on all platforms. And uh, I see right here Mike 375 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: McKie is saying it's great that they're both talking about 376 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: the Winter Games. But I don't seriously think we frust 377 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: the North fully judging by pasted actions. But as a Scotsman, 378 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: which you know we have people watching from all over Um, 379 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: as Scotsman, maybe I'm just unfairly judging. But I can't 380 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: take anyone with a haircut like Kim Jong un, uh 381 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: that he can be trusted. Ever, I agree that we 382 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: can't trust, um fully trust North Korea when it comes 383 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: to this because of you know, past instances. UM. But 384 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: again I think we need at least need to take 385 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying we but it's South Korea that's held in 386 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: the talks. We at least need to take these steps. 387 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: That way, we can say at the end of the day, 388 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: we have done everything that we could possibly do as 389 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: far as haircuts concerned. Yes, I get it. However, we've 390 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: seen the other side of that haircut too, and it's orange. 391 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: But so yeah, I mean, yes, we always it's you know, 392 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: trust but verify. You know, you always want to be 393 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: looking over your shoulder when it comes to this stuff. 394 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: I see you that a friend of yours who will 395 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: be a future guest former CIA Shannon Miller, is watching UM. 396 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: Not to my knowledge, we don't have representation in North Korea. Oh, 397 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: so that answered our question. However, it is very common 398 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: for Switzerland's delegation to act as a liaison or a 399 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: mediate UH. In this case, there were five senior officials 400 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: from North Korea and South Korea. As for how the 401 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: talks came about, it appears to have been handled directly 402 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: between the two governments, so that answers that UM getting 403 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: into Pakistan, though, so, Pakistan suspends military and intelligence cooperation 404 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: with the US UM and then related to that on 405 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: January five, the US also suspended an undisclosed amount of 406 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: security aid until his Lamabad takes what they called called 407 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: decisive action against all terrorists groups. UM. With Pakistan's suspending 408 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: military and intelligence cooperation with the US. It's funny as 409 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: out that over to Jack Murphy and he was like, yeah, 410 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: not a big loss there, and I'm I'm guessing you echo, 411 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: absolutely not. I mean, I knew it was coming. UM. 412 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure most knew that it was coming, especially after 413 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: the the comments by the President, you know, by President 414 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: Trump about UM, their lack of cooperation with US, to 415 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: put it lightly, UM, and it's true that you know, 416 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: it's if you put two and two together with things 417 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: that have happened in Afghanistan and Pakistan in that region, 418 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: you could, you know, it could be argued that hey, Pakistan, 419 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: you're not pulling your weight, or you purposely turned your 420 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: back on this, or you're facilitating this. UM. So as 421 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: of yesterday when I was looking all this stuff up 422 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: and you know, making phone calls and all that, it 423 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: may have changed by this morning. But the US Embassy 424 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: UM or the State Department is saying that they got 425 00:22:55,080 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: no formal UH message saying that Pakistan was suspending their 426 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: military and intelligence UH cooperation. Apparently it was part of 427 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: a speech or it was said in at a summit 428 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: that happened a few days ago or a week or 429 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: so or whatever it was um and but there was 430 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: no confirmation officially from the U State Department as of yesterday. 431 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: Whether that's changed or not, I don't know. But again 432 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: I knew it was coming in. As Jack said, I 433 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: don't think it's really that big a loss. And I 434 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: think it's been coming ever since the you know, the 435 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: capturing and killing about Samad bin Wad. And I think 436 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: when we learned that Pakistan did not help us in 437 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: any way with that intelligence that was that was a 438 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: big wake up call and and a huge just alarm 439 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: for the American people. Is this an ally Yeah. I 440 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: mean we pour a lot of money and poured a 441 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: lot of money into Pakistan, and it was kind of 442 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: like a you know, your security system. It's like, hey, uh, 443 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: security company, here's all my money up front for you 444 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: to do your job. And then uh, you know, the 445 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: security company says thank you, take some money, turns off 446 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: the lights and goes home, you know, or lets the 447 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: burglars in, not necessarily saying hey, burglars, you can go in, 448 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: but turns their back on it. So at some point 449 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: you have to say you're not getting my money, you're 450 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: not getting my help until you do your job. So 451 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, I knew it was coming. I don't I 452 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: personally don't believe it at last, um, because we do 453 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: need allies in that region, and you know, whether it's 454 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, fair weather allies or not, we need them, 455 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, and uh India there. You know, there's a 456 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: tension between Pakistan and India, so we need to have 457 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: our fingers and both pies there, um, you know, in 458 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: order to keep that sort of piece. Because they just 459 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: had an incident a week about a week and a 460 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: half or so ago where Indian forces crossed the the 461 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: controlled area and why it's blanking on me, I don't know. 462 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure someone can, um can tell me the disputed 463 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: area and killed a bunch of or a few Pakistani 464 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: troops in retaliation for what they say was a cross 465 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: a cross border attack. So not that things are necessarily 466 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: heating up there, because they've always been you know, hot 467 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: over there, but we need to have a presence, whether 468 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: it's political or whatever, um in that area just to 469 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: keep somebody from pressing a button and killing everybody. So 470 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: you know what I'd like to hear you get into 471 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: you know why you think we do need a presence, 472 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: just from your experience, because there's always people with the 473 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: less interventionist foreign policy, and it's always an argument made 474 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: of why do we need bases everywhere? Why why do 475 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: we need a presence on every end of the globe? Um? 476 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: What would you say? So? I think we need to 477 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: look at the two ends of the spectrum there. Where 478 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: there's one end there's nothing we have no present, no military, 479 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: no diplomatic, no anything. The other is we are you know, 480 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: we have bases everywhere in the region and um embassies 481 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: everywhere in that region. And I think when I say presents, 482 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean at the very least, we should have an 483 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: intelligence presence there. Obviously that's not something that's going to 484 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: be advertised, but we need to know what's going on. 485 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: We can't have blind spots in the world. We we can't. 486 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: No country you know worth their salt will want blind spots. 487 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: So we need to have an intelligence presence, even if 488 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: we don't have an embassy there, which I think should 489 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 1: go hand in hand with that intelligence presence. So if 490 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: we have an intelligence presence and a diplomatic presence there, 491 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 1: that would be enough icing on the cake would be 492 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: basis in the area, um in that region, just in 493 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: case something happens, you know, and we need to respond militarily. 494 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: We're not then having to fly all the way from 495 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: Germany or from you know, somewhere else, you know, across 496 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: the globe. But in that area we're talking Afghanistan, you know, 497 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: that sort of you know, that sort of region where 498 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: we've been there forever and we see the results. We're 499 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: not seeing the results, so, you know, I think the 500 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: very least intelligence, a diplomatic presence, whether that's embassy, consulate, 501 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and go from there. Are you someone 502 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: who believes that we should have military bases throughout the globe. 503 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about in the Middle East. I 504 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: think that we have bases in regions that can cover 505 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: other regions. Now, if it's unrealistic, you know, to fly 506 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: troops or it's it's not economical to fly troops from 507 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: wherever we have a base closest to that region to 508 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: wherever the hotspot is, then maybe we want to think 509 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: about it. But then there's a whole host of other 510 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: things that go and I'm not again, I'm not at 511 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: the you know, fifty thousand foot level where I can 512 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: say this is what goes into it. But again I 513 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: think we need if we don't have a diplomatic presence, um, 514 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: it'll be hard to establish a base there without some 515 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: sort of a conflict that involves us. Like I don't 516 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: think we could just you know, put UM troops in 517 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: or a basin. I don't know, let's say South Africa 518 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: for instance. For no, there's no reason to you know, 519 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: right now. So I don't believe we need them all 520 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: over the world until we need them all over the world. Interesting, man, 521 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: I actually wanted to get your take on something completely unrelated, 522 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: the whole Oprah debacle. What's your what are your feelings? Mr? Power? 523 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: I just said to somebody the other day, Um, if 524 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: she runs and says you know you're you get a 525 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: million dollars, you get a million dollars. And I'm one 526 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: of those used and fine, but that's not gonna happen. 527 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: And um so on the serious part of it, if 528 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: she ran in, there's no way I'm booting. Do you 529 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: think it's in it? It's like a it's setting a 530 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: crazy precedent now that we're having you know, people who 531 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: do not have prior experience you know, it used to 532 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: be you have to be a governor and then you 533 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: become the president. Now it is, especially if you go 534 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: from a Trump presidency to open, win free presidency. I 535 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: think all of that is out the window. And I mean, yeah, 536 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: if I want someone who's able to navigate, if I can, 537 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: it's it's scary when if I know who you are 538 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: from TV, you should you know, can run for You're 539 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: now qualified to run for president. That's just crazy, I 540 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: think though. First of all, I don't believe she would 541 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: win if if she did run. But someone said it 542 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: on the radio this morning that if her running can 543 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: bring high you know, can highlight issues that the Democratic 544 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: you know that the Democrats want highlighted, Well that's then 545 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: that works for them even if she doesn't win. You know, Um, 546 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: I detest politics period, so it doesn't matter to me. 547 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: But um, I don't think she would win, and I 548 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: most certainly would not vote for her. Yeah. Interesting one. 549 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: I just know that people have been going, um, you know, 550 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: back and forth on Twitter about this whole thing, so 551 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to hear your takes. Well something else too 552 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: with that is, uh, I don't I didn't listen to 553 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: her whole speech the other night. Yeah, I I didn't. 554 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: I just saw what somebody put on what was on 555 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: the news. Um. But it was interesting that literally right 556 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: after she made that speech, there were pictures of her 557 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: popping up with Harvey Weins from last year. If if, 558 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: if the time stamp on, these things are are true. 559 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: So again, we just talked in the beginning about you know, 560 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: um uh yeah, right, and you know that sort of thing. 561 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: If you know that you're gonna put yourself out there 562 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: by making these speeches or running for president, whatever you're 563 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: gonna do, just make sure you check your Twitter history, 564 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: your Facebook, all of that, because somebody's gonna pull something 565 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: up to try to you know, to counter what you're 566 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: doing or saying. Um, Johnny Riyal watching on YouTube. Well, 567 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: Pakistan government prevent us from going through Pakistan to Afghanistan. 568 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: I am not the expert on that, but uh no, 569 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't belief. So they've kept despite what the headlines 570 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: say about the suspending the military and intelligence cooperation if 571 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: that becomes official, if it is official, from what I understand, 572 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: they've kept open the air lines of communication and the 573 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: UM I believe it's land lines of communicaties l lock 574 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: and a lock something like that, UM or g lock 575 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: ground lines communication, So that's supply routes. If I'm not mistaken. 576 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're logistics people that can talk better to 577 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: it than me. But those things have remained open. There's 578 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: there was no talk of those clothings, so I think 579 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: that's the hint that no, they wouldn't prevent us from 580 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: doing whatever we have to do in Afghanistan. Good question 581 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: from Johnny, um if you have any others shoot them 582 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: through UM So, I guess other than that piece that 583 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: you're that you were saying the third um, the third 584 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: piece in the series. Do you have anything else that 585 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: you're planning on writing for the site be on the 586 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: lookout for they're Uh. There was one piece that was 587 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: purple Dragon. I don't know if anybody out there can 588 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: talk about. I'm sure to Jack and but it was 589 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: something I stumbled across. It was the predecessor, if I'm 590 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: remembering correctly, of red teaming that we do today. You know, hey, 591 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: we have a software program, or we have a um uh, 592 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, a military exercise we want to do. These 593 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: are the people who would come in as the bad 594 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: guys or the devil's advocate and say hey, you know 595 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: what about this? Or if we do this, how are 596 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: we going to react? Or if they do this, how 597 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna react? So Purple Dragon of um, if i 598 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure that this, there's more detail to it which 599 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: I'll find out than this was the predecessor of that 600 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: during the Vietnam War. So I'm gonna be researching that 601 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: and doing some trying to do some writing on that. 602 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: Then while I'm at a shot show and I hope 603 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: to see some of you guys out there, um in Vegas, 604 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: I'll be doing a lot of writing out there too, 605 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: so nice. Yeah, is that like your time away from 606 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: the family to be able to like focus on yeah, yeah, 607 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: and to hear that in Vegas like I don't drink 608 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: and if I gambled, I my wife would probably be like, 609 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: you might as well stay out there because he just 610 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: lost all our money. So um, that will be my 611 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: time to relax a little bit and be able to 612 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: actually sit in front of the keyboard and you know, 613 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: get some stuff out. Um. And it's funny because it 614 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: brings up a funny little story. Last year at Shot 615 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: there's a right you know, the press room. So I'm 616 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: in the press room and Jack's sitting on one side 617 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: of me, and as I was sitting on the other 618 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: and I'm typing, and I just happened to glance up 619 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: and there's a guy and I think I might have 620 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: put it on Facebook one of them, or might might 621 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: have gone on Twitter. Um, there's a guy, older, gentleman. 622 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: He had his back to me on his computer. Well, 623 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: when I looked up, this guy was surfing um bodybuilder 624 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: females and like in various states of undressed. And I 625 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: am dying because this guy is just wide open, not 626 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: even trying to hide it. He's just clicking along. So 627 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: I snapped a little picture of it, and U. Yeah, 628 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: so maybe i'll wear that. Go what's that? I think 629 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: it went on Twitter. I'm not sure, but maybe I'll 630 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: do that this year. I don't know, you'll see. Yeah, 631 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: I was so for for our West Coast soft preparators 632 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: and software radio listeners will be there for shot show, 633 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: which is right around the corner. 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Um, so we hope to see you guys there, 679 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: the West Coast crew. Um, so you've seen the East 680 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: Coast guys, so it'll be cool to see all of you. Um. 681 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: As you're wrapping things up here, I see a question 682 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: from Michael wangs Guard. Um, do you think North Korea 683 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: would look to do something under the cover of the Olympics? Uh, 684 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: loosely based example Russia and Ukraine with CRIMEA. Uh again, Um, 685 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm not the expert on that, but I yeah, yeah, 686 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: Shannon help me out here. UM. So I don't believe 687 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: that if we're talking the Russia CRIMEA thing on that scale, 688 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't believe. So no, Um, because of you know, 689 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: you're seeing the headlines that say, you know, we're training 690 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,720 Speaker 1: our troops, our army troops now to fight in tunnels, 691 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: all that stuff. So they know we're making the preparations 692 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: we've already we've been making them, but they know now 693 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: we're it's that much more heightened. So I don't see that. 694 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: Do I see them trying to take advantage from an 695 00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: intelligence standpoint? Absolutely? I mean, now you're going to have, Um, 696 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna have delegations from all over the world. So 697 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: now you know, say, you know, uh, little Jane who's 698 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: a gymnast, her dad is a diplomat or something like that, 699 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: he's of interest. Let's try to get somebody next to Jane, 700 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. So any any intelligence, as you're 701 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: worth its salt, is going to try to take advantage 702 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: of that. So that's that on that level, Yes, I 703 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: believe so militarily, I don't think so. I don't even 704 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: know if unless in the next you know, month or so, 705 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: somebody says something foolish. I don't even think we're gonna 706 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: see a missile launched. I think that was the big 707 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: scare or concern was that they're going to you know, 708 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: test these missiles during the Olympics. It will you know, 709 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: heighten everything and all that stuff. I don't I don't 710 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: believe we'll see that. Um unless one side or the 711 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: other does something or says something foolish, then they'll be like, 712 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: you know what, then fine, we'll just launch a missile, 713 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: you know. So. Um. I see another question here on YouTube. 714 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: Do you think the c i A focuses more on 715 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: your background or more on current capability more on well, 716 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: I guess I can't really ask whoever, but more on 717 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: my backgrounds or current capability. They really only care about 718 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: your background for two reasons as far as in my experience. 719 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: One is when you're initially being hired or vetted to 720 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: be hired, they care about it, you know, because they 721 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: want to know that you're not UM, you're not being 722 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: directed against the agency. And two they care about it 723 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: because your background will determine can determine there helps determine 724 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 1: what job you go into where they send you UM, 725 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: and your current capabilities. You're always training, They're always sending 726 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: you to a language school or um, you know, uh, 727 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: just different training. And you will also do that on 728 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: your own, so your current capabilities will enhance your background, 729 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: so they'll use those things. UM. From a c I. 730 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: From a counterintelligence standpoint, yes, they care about your background 731 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: throughout your career. Absolutely. Your current capabilities not so much 732 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: from a c I standpoint. They really care about your 733 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: current lifestyle. You know. It's like, hey, UM, has this 734 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: guy you know as James, come into a ton of 735 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: money all of a sudden when we're paying him this 736 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: much and now he's you know, got rolling with a 737 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: million dollars in the bank. Where to come from? That 738 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: sort of thing. But um, hopefully that answers that question absolutely. 739 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: I see that Shannon jumped in here again, UM, I 740 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 1: think this is referring earlier. If they did, it would 741 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: be quietly done. Do I think they'll send an intelligence 742 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 1: officers without a doubt? Okay, so this is about the Olympics, UM, 743 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: I guarantee some of their athletes and or family members 744 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: are involved in intelligence and will be there perfect to 745 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: gather intel under cover of the games. I would be most, 746 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: I would because I would be most countries are doing 747 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 1: the same. So I guess you're saying I think most counties. Yeah, 748 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: I bet most just doing the same. Um g K 749 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: s Daily writes, the US deployed three B two spirits 750 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: to Guam the other day. I wonder if the DPRK 751 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: will have a response from that. Again, have the preface 752 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: that I am not the expert, but I don't think so. 753 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: I think you know it's funny. I do appreciate that 754 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: you guys always do that. We were talking about that 755 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: last episode with Jack, because if you look on mainstream media, 756 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: people claim to be an expert on pretty much everything. 757 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: So I do love the fact that soft preparators like 758 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: all kind of stay in their land of what they 759 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: do and they're only going to speak on what they 760 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: know absolutely, And I can give my opinion on anything, 761 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: but did you want to the last episode, like, if 762 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: you want to hear me, I will that. Yeah, I 763 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: will definitely give my opinion, but don't take it as 764 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: gospel unless it's something that I experienced myself. Other than that, 765 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: you know, I can't say that's why I keep calling 766 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: on Shannon, which I'm probably gonna over money now, um, 767 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,959 Speaker 1: you know, because that wasn't my bail wick, that wasn't 768 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: my thing. So uh but politics or diplomacy is politics 769 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: is diplomacy is politics. It's throughout the world. It's culturally 770 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: it's different, but overall it's pretty much the same. So 771 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: if you've done it in one spot, you've done it 772 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: in a million. Well speaking which Shannon will be a 773 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: future guest. Always good having you on man, actually taking 774 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: the trip in studio, always like seeing you. Um, you know, 775 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a Power of Thought right after this 776 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:29,959 Speaker 1: with legendary recording engineer John King. Uh So, if you're 777 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: around and you're watching this, you're in the office or something. 778 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: Tune into Brandon webs page. Um, and the at the 779 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: Soccer Up TV YouTube will be doing and Twitch will 780 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: be doing a another Power of Thought with John King, 781 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: legendary owner of Chun King's Studios. Uh. That about does 782 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: it for this week. Thanks to all of you tuned in, 783 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: like it, share it. Uh. Next episode, Jack Murphy should 784 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: be back here. And Andrew Wilcow the Great Andrew will 785 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: callby in studio because he's got a TV show coming 786 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: up on CRTV Conservative Review. Um. I'm excited, you know, 787 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 1: to have him in here. I've I've worked with Andrew 788 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: for many years and uh, someone's calling me very unprofessional 789 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: me um, and yeah, this will be the first time 790 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: he's been on in a long time. He was on 791 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: via Skype and I haven't worked with Andrew since May. 792 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: I've seen him. But it's it's weird going this long, 793 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, without working in radio. It's like I'm stuck 794 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 1: in a room with three guys. It was me, Mike Bins, 795 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: and Andrew all at all times. So yeah, it's it's awesome, 796 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: but at the same time, like, even though I love 797 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: those guys, the smallest thing will get your nerves it's 798 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: almost like a marriage. It's not like a typical job 799 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: where you see dozens of people where you're working by, 800 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: you know, with yourself, by yourself at home. You're just 801 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: working with these two guys every day. And uh yeah, 802 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm excited of Andrew back in here, and 803 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited of Andrew back on TV. He's a 804 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: great guy who was working at another network and I 805 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: won't mention and you know he's doing big things. So 806 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: thanks to all you guys for tuning in, and uh yeah, 807 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: we love hearing your feedback. Leave us a review on 808 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at SOFTWAREP Radio. 809 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 1: You should give out your Twitter. I think your Instagram 810 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: is private, right, but your Twitter uh at j pal 811 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: eleven nine two. Follow James on on Twitter at j 812 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: pal eleven two. And unless you're plotting anything else, no, 813 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I just appreciate being here, and um, you know, 814 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: given my two cents on things and from here and 815 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: from everybody, I know that the last shot. Uh, people 816 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: would I guess recognize me, although they really didn't know 817 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: what I look like. But um, like I always like 818 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: to say, I'm want one of the few chocolate tips 819 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: in the software cookie. So it's not hard to pick me. 820 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: Probably the only Yeah, Nick, I mean yeah, but he's 821 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 1: not like a regular yeah, so I'll take that mantle. Um. So, 822 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: So it's nice to actually talk to people face to 823 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: face or even just an email, like when I get 824 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: these emails. Um, whether it's about resumes or whatever it is, 825 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: it's nice to interact with people because, trust me, I'm 826 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: no lofty celebrity. I'm no celebrity at all, so I'm 827 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: easy to get to. So, and the last thing I 828 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: should say is is the last time I saw you 829 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: was Jack Murphy's wedding. Great time had by all. What 830 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: do you think of Jim West's best man speed? Oh 831 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 1: my gosh. First of all, the fact that he has 832 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: eighteen different variations of Benny's name. Day. I loved it 833 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: because he is so genuine. He is he will as 834 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: my um you know one of my LTI is like, say, 835 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,919 Speaker 1: whip somebody's monkey ass. But he's just a great guy, 836 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: like you could. My wife was an awe talking to him. 837 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: She absolutely loved him. I love him. It was it 838 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: was great. The wedding itself was awesome. I was surprised 839 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: by how nice it was. And I said that Jack, 840 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: because just because of the fact that he got engaged 841 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: uh that summer and then a few months later they 842 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: had a wedding. So I figured this would be a 843 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: really small affair, uh And not that it was big, 844 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 1: as he was saying, but it was a really nice venue. 845 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: It must have been like a huge, you know deal 846 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: to plan that. I was not expecting something was that 847 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: uh statue. Absolutely was awesome. And you know the people 848 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: that I met, friends of his and everything, they were awesome. 849 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: It was a great, great time. Yeah. It was a 850 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: lot of you know, a lot of guys in the 851 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: community were there. Brandon Webb was there, um the audition 852 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: was in attendance with his lute library mask on uh 853 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 1: and Joey l photographer and he was there. He signed 854 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: um if you see me pointing, he signed the who 855 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: Dares Wins print? UM. Yeah. So a lot of a 856 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: lot of cool guys from absolutely Yeah, And I think 857 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: it was a side of Jack A lot of people 858 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: don't know about. Like my wife still talks about, you know, 859 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: when she came when he came into the you know, 860 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 1: to come down the aisle and he was with his 861 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: daughter and that was pretty awesome. You know, that was 862 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: that's the side of Jack people don't see. We call 863 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: him j Jonah Jameson. You know, Spider Man's uh cranky 864 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 1: um boss um. But Jack' that's not Jack. He's he's 865 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 1: just an awesome guy. And and you know they kind 866 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: of addressed during the wedding. It's funny that this you know, 867 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: more liberal minded journalist, I would say from Italy marries 868 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 1: this SF you know guy Army Ranger, regardless of what 869 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: people think of the site, I would say, a more 870 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: conservative guy like and the the the cool thing about it, though, 871 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: is how many couples do you meet who go into 872 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: war zones and report on stories and they don't even 873 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: do it together. He goes by yourself. You know, he's 874 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: told me before that there's guys in the media who 875 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: have said, like, oh, could you bring over, could you 876 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: um help me get some like SF guys to come 877 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: out with me and from going new me right or 878 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: you know Kurstin And in his head he's he's told me, 879 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: he's like, you placey like my girlfriend at the time. 880 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: Those they're buyers like Benny is awesome. She is, she's 881 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: a badass, she is she's great and again she's a badass, 882 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: but she is just a sweetheart. She's very genuine. They're 883 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: a great thing. They're very awesome thing. I agree, all right, 884 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: Uh with that, Thank you very much guys for checking 885 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 1: it out once again, and uh we'll talk to you 886 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: all soon. Shoot over your email soft rep dot Radio 887 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 1: at soft rep dot com, and we're how you've been 888 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: listening to self rep Radio. New episodes up every Wednesday 889 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 1: and Friday for all of the great content from our 890 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: veteran journalists. Join us and become a team new member 891 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: today at soft rep dot com. 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