Speaker 1: Hey, this is Kyle Stowers and you're listening to Fish
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Speaker 2: We have a lot of ideas just talking about before
Speaker 2: the stream, a whole lot of good movies out recently
Speaker 2: that we've been thinking about reviewing a lot of classic
Speaker 2: Marlins games that I've been familiarizing myself with, just because
Speaker 2: this current team has not been providing the type of
Speaker 2: compelling and inspiring material that Marlins fans kind of need.
Speaker 2: Right now, we're talking in the midst of a nine
Speaker 2: game Marlins a losing street. It's one of the longest
Speaker 2: losing streets in franchise history, and yet I still have
Speaker 2: a smile on my face as I usually do. Joined
Speaker 2: by Isaaca Zoo, Jeremiah Geiger, Nate Krsmer, Sean Millrick here
Speaker 2: on this off day. Appreciate everybody that's joining us live
Speaker 2: on either YouTube or Twitter. But you could get these pods,
Speaker 2: of course on our podcast channel wherever you listen to
Speaker 2: our pod, and I think we'll have Kevin potentially checking
Speaker 2: in from the airport. He provided live coverage. We invested
Speaker 2: in live coverage of this series against the Astros, where
Speaker 2: the Marlins got stuckt for the third consecutive series. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot to get to. I'm not gonna go too
Speaker 2: long on this at this particular juncture, but I think, well,
Speaker 2: in the absence of Kevin, we also had Sean Millrick
Speaker 2: on hand for what at least one of the games
Speaker 2: in Houston, So I think we're to dive right into that. Sean,
Speaker 2: as somebody you are Texas corresponded and this is what
Speaker 2: qualifies as a home game for you sort of just Yeah,
Speaker 2: your takeaways from from being there for these three games
Speaker 2: against Houston as the Marlins lose their seventh, their eighth,
Speaker 2: and then their ninth consecutive games and continue to tumble
Speaker 2: perilously close to the five hundred mark.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was there on Monday night from that uh
Speaker 3: eight to five defeat that seems quite closer than it was.
Speaker 3: That was just really a shellacking all the way through,
Speaker 3: pretty much pretty much all the way downhill from the
Speaker 3: moment that uh the game started. Highlight was definitely Tyler
Speaker 3: Phillips signing a ball from my fivroute, you know, made
Speaker 3: made her day. That was great. As far as the
Speaker 3: Marlins on the field though, just you know, not what
Speaker 3: I was hoping to see. A couple of home runs
Speaker 3: there were great from Mac and Hicks, but that you'red
Speaker 3: and Alphareez guy, he's pretty good at hitting home runs too,
Speaker 3: And that seemed to be the story of that of
Speaker 3: that series. Sorry, I was happy to check off another ballpark.
Speaker 3: Was pretty ugly baseball from the Marlins throughout just strikeouts
Speaker 3: kept getting wrapped up on the scoreboard. I want to
Speaker 3: say they had at least fifteen strikeouts on Monday night.
Speaker 3: Just got really sick of seeing that astronaut emoji they
Speaker 3: kept going up on the JumboTron. Kevin could back me
Speaker 3: up on that one. My little astronaut waves the flag
Speaker 3: every time the Marlins struck out, and that astronaut must
Speaker 3: have been exhausted by the end of this series.
Speaker 2: He touched on it. And there have been some shortcomings
Speaker 2: in terms of basic fundamentals of this Marlins team doing
Speaker 2: some of the things that have made them such a
Speaker 2: consistent winning team for a lot of the previous month
Speaker 2: and a half, but Isaac, overall, like something that really
Speaker 2: jumps out to me. During this entire losing streak, the
Speaker 2: margin of margin of defeat, I should say, hasn't been
Speaker 2: more than three runs in any single game. There some
Speaker 2: that I guess have been a little bit more upside
Speaker 2: than the score indicates, but that's that's for me. Where
Speaker 2: like children to grasp what exactly to make of this,
Speaker 2: because even though it is one of a two week
Speaker 2: losing streak, believe it or not, like there's only in
Speaker 2: terms of run differential. In terms of like the overall
Speaker 2: numbers during the streak, they're not particularly grizzly, So like,
Speaker 2: how much has your understanding of this team's ability actually
Speaker 2: changed during the streak given the fact that for a
Speaker 2: lot of these games they are relatively close, especially in
Speaker 2: that like serious finality.
Speaker 4: It's funny because when they were doing really, really well,
Speaker 4: I said to myself that this is just completely reshaping
Speaker 4: what I thought I knew about baseball what a good
Speaker 4: team had to look like, and so here they don't
Speaker 4: look like a bad team. And put out a tweet
Speaker 4: that says, hey, they're not this bad either, but they're
Speaker 4: probably not as good as what they showed in June
Speaker 4: or somewhere in the middle, So I don't I'm not panicking,
Speaker 4: but the fact that these two run games feel like
Speaker 4: such lopsided affairs, it reminds you of that twenty thirteen
Speaker 4: season when they could not buy a run and any
Speaker 4: time they were down by one immediately it felt like
Speaker 4: it was insurmountable. So that's what it sort of reminds
Speaker 4: me of a little bit. I think they have really
Speaker 4: gotten unlucky with the injuries.
Speaker 5: I think it'd be.
Speaker 4: Unfair not to share what's happened to the bullpen, and
Speaker 4: the fact the Fairbanks is closing game is a direct
Speaker 4: result of those injuries. To Bender acting this who had
Speaker 4: apparently a set back today Triple A John King unavailable
Speaker 4: and then you're starting You're also are starting picture going
Speaker 4: on the.
Speaker 5: Ail as well. So I think with a little more
Speaker 5: luck about every team goes through injuries, but actually with
Speaker 5: a little more luck on that front, I think you
Speaker 5: don't see this sort of catastrophe. So I still think
Speaker 5: they're a good team.
Speaker 4: I still think they're a playoff contending team, but unfortunately
Speaker 4: this nine game losing streak has just set them back,
Speaker 4: along with the rest of the National League mid teams
Speaker 4: that now there's six teams vying for that one spot,
Speaker 4: and all that momentum is completely eliminated, and it's certainly
Speaker 4: going to change the direction or at least a strategy
Speaker 4: that the Marlins take at the deadline.
Speaker 5: In what ten.
Speaker 2: Days m HM, as usual, we need to take a
Speaker 2: quick peek at where the wild card standings are here
Speaker 2: in early Thursday evenings. There's a game going on right
Speaker 2: now between the teams in this picture, the d Backs
Speaker 2: and the Cardinals. Don't have the result of that. As
Speaker 2: bad as things look, the Marlins just game and a
Speaker 2: half down from that final wild card spot, but it's
Speaker 2: a big jumble of teams all of a sudden. Now
Speaker 2: they're almost as close to I mean, they're they're tied
Speaker 2: with this Nationals team, and the fact that even like
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds, a team that felt like an obvious
Speaker 2: buyer just a few days ago, there's only a four
Speaker 2: game gap between them right now and the Marlins. But
Speaker 2: you see the overall numbers, like there have been years
Speaker 2: where there's been like that big disparity between the Marlins
Speaker 2: run differential and their record. This year it's bang even
Speaker 2: like they're plus eleven overall on run differential just one
Speaker 2: game over five hundred. Those are almost perfectly lined, where
Speaker 2: like the overall numbers would tell you that they're just
Speaker 2: a slightly above average team. I want to go to
Speaker 2: I'll go to Jeremiah here. I don't think we I
Speaker 2: think we haven't just part of the show.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of a similar question to you, where like
Speaker 2: the fact that the overall numbers say that this is
Speaker 2: a slightly better than average team. Is that where you're
Speaker 2: at right now? Or are you just focus on like
Speaker 2: the most recent trend does Does that tell you that there's
Speaker 2: more gaping holes than are they closer to that overall record?
Speaker 2: Or is it more so that are you ready to
Speaker 2: panic just given how well how poorly things have gone
Speaker 2: over these last couple weeks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm strangely calm even through this losing streak because
Speaker 6: I know, like Isaac alluded to earlier, this team isn't
Speaker 6: this bad, and the losing streak will end, and there's
Speaker 6: ebbs and flows to seasons.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just how it is.
Speaker 6: Like Boston just went fifteen straight and they were left
Speaker 6: for dead. Doesn't make them buyers at the deadline all
Speaker 6: of a sudden, like these things happen, it's just the
Speaker 6: timing of it is very poor, and that's that's the issue.
Speaker 6: I mean, this team was at nine to ten games
Speaker 6: under five hundred earlier in the year.
Speaker 1: They found the way to bounce back. They were left
Speaker 1: for dead.
Speaker 6: I mean, I for all intents and purposes, had no
Speaker 6: inclination that this was going to be a contending team
Speaker 6: in early May, in mid May even, and then they
Speaker 6: went on that really good run in the month of
Speaker 6: June and we started all believing again. And now there's
Speaker 6: a lot of people with negativity, and it's understandable because
Speaker 6: they're losing games.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is three sweeps in a row, but
Speaker 1: I think it.
Speaker 6: You know, the phrase put up or shut up is
Speaker 6: thrown out there all the time, and you know, must
Speaker 6: win baseball is thrown out there all the time. But
Speaker 6: I would be hard pressed to find another example of
Speaker 6: a team that needs to win now, otherwise they.
Speaker 1: Will start selling at the deadline.
Speaker 6: I mean, they're gonna fall out of contention if this
Speaker 6: losing streak continues.
Speaker 1: You have three series left.
Speaker 6: The Padres, who aren't a good team, the Phillies, obviously
Speaker 6: division rivals, Contenders and then the Mets in New York.
Speaker 1: So you gotta get back on track.
Speaker 6: You have to win at least two of these series,
Speaker 6: in my opinion, And you know what, we know now
Speaker 6: ten days until the deadline. It's kind of like, well,
Speaker 6: is this team going to buy? I don't know, because
Speaker 6: they need help. That's most obvious to me is that
Speaker 6: this team is running on fumes and they need outside
Speaker 6: help in the worst way if they want to contend
Speaker 6: this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you touched on something that I think is very true.
Speaker 2: How there are essentially two separate playoff races for a
Speaker 2: team like the Marlins. There's the one that goes between
Speaker 2: now and the deadline, because they got to win a
Speaker 2: certain number of games in order to actually justify giving
Speaker 2: up future talents and minor leaguers to make improvements so
Speaker 2: be a buyer. They actually have to reach that deadline
Speaker 2: within not just striking distance, but feel like they have
Speaker 2: a reasonable chance of getting in. And then that's then
Speaker 2: that actual real postseason race begins, because assuming that they
Speaker 2: are in a position in a best case scenario to
Speaker 2: actually make outside acquisitions and justify that, then they actually
Speaker 2: have to put it together and win those games. But
Speaker 2: they have to that first race comes first, and that's
Speaker 2: there is really those different segments where they're now in
Speaker 2: this position, like Hope. Usually we thought, potentially the Marlins
Speaker 2: were going to be in a very favorable position where
Speaker 2: it's a lot more simple than that, because when you're
Speaker 2: ten games over five hundred or even seven over going
Speaker 2: to the break, like you just hold water right there
Speaker 2: and like the decisions already made at that point. But
Speaker 2: now that they're in they're in purgatory. They really are
Speaker 2: where they're in a position where they have to play
Speaker 2: a little bit better moving forward than they have so far,
Speaker 2: otherwise they're not going to make it. And all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's getting harder and harder to see that
Speaker 2: scenario where their current pieces are going to elevate their
Speaker 2: performance moving forward based on what they've currently done. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've talked about this quite a bit in Nate, so
Speaker 2: I'll and it to somebody else on this topic of
Speaker 2: there have been some games played today in the Marlins organization,
Speaker 2: just not the major league level, and that includes Braxic
Speaker 2: and Garrett making a star for TRIPA A Jacksonville. There's
Speaker 2: some speculation that finally he would get an opportunity to
Speaker 2: redeem himself after being like a superstar down in the
Speaker 2: internet in the league in the past couple of months. The
Speaker 2: Marlins didn't bite on that. He made his scheduled serve
Speaker 2: for Jacksonville today. He was awful. This is probably his
Speaker 2: very worst outing at the Triple A level all year long.
Speaker 2: Lot seven runs, didn't get out of the third ending.
Speaker 2: Just went your take on the fact that the Marlins
Speaker 2: haven't gone to him at any point during these past
Speaker 2: couple of months where rotation depth had been such a
Speaker 2: big question mark, and right now in particular with Max
Speaker 2: Meyer going down, with Jansen Junk really struggling, with Tyler
Speaker 2: Philips being really uneven. Just your thoughts on the fact
Speaker 2: that they didn't think that they clearly don't think that
Speaker 2: Braxton is part of the solution here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not really too surprised, especially what we saw
Speaker 7: in the spring. I feel like Bratson had a pretty
Speaker 7: good spring is his fastball from what we were hearing
Speaker 7: and what we saw in his limited action that he
Speaker 7: was getting up there I think around ninety five with
Speaker 7: that year, which he really hasn't been known for in
Speaker 7: the past, and the fact that they didn't go with
Speaker 7: him on the open DA roster and then let him
Speaker 7: star on Triple A and then he finally got his
Speaker 7: chance and we all know what happened in Minnesota and
Speaker 7: the following day Man's the Braves had no command. So
Speaker 7: I think it was in a it's something ex straordinary
Speaker 7: for Bratston, which is what he was doing. But I
Speaker 7: think this is almost the nail on the coffin for
Speaker 7: this guy. Seven are in runs over what two and
Speaker 7: two thirds whatever it was today. It's unfortunate, especially with
Speaker 7: what the Marlins are gonna be forced to do with
Speaker 7: match going down. Our guy Colin comments a gusto start
Speaker 7: with a Fulton pityback, and I I really don't know
Speaker 7: what to say much about that, because I mean, the
Speaker 7: way this thing's going right now, if you go to that,
Speaker 7: it's it's not going to look up from there either.
Speaker 7: So it is tough that they've been They've been put
Speaker 7: in the situation like guys that've said, I mean, injury
Speaker 7: has just been killing these guys recently, and it's a shame.
Speaker 7: And I just one more thing on the streak. When
Speaker 7: your top three hitters that have been carrying this lineup
Speaker 7: or at least two of them for most of the year, Auto,
Speaker 7: Lopez and Ats and then Stours. I mean in that order,
Speaker 7: Auto's got four to eleven, ATS has got three eighty seven,
Speaker 7: and Stars is a three forty six ops over this
Speaker 7: ten game or nine game straps. So if if your
Speaker 7: guys are gonna be if your guys are gonna play
Speaker 7: like that when you eat the most and you have
Speaker 7: a lot of i mean mostly platoon guys in this
Speaker 7: line up, if we're calling it what it really is,
Speaker 7: you're not gonna win a lot of ball games.
Speaker 5: And it's a shame.
Speaker 7: But I mean the twe like we all know, they
Speaker 7: came out of the break cold, and then after they
Speaker 7: acquired David Robertson throwing wild pitches against Washington, they went
Speaker 7: cold again in Audust September. So a lot of time
Speaker 7: left in the season.
Speaker 5: But some us when bal games did some teams they
Speaker 5: should be beating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely a multifaceted problem here With regarding the Braxton,
Speaker 4: I did ask about this because it was peculiar that
Speaker 4: one he hadn't been given a chance already, and two
Speaker 4: like it was pretty much well thought that hey, he'd
Speaker 4: be starting tomorrow. But what I understand. They do like
Speaker 4: Ryan Gusto a lot more than they'd like Braxton Garrett.
Speaker 4: They like Bradley Blaylock a lot more than they'd like
Speaker 4: Braxton Garrett. I think Brandon White is also someone that
Speaker 4: you could keep an eye on as someone who may
Speaker 4: see sometime. And I know what's unfortunate. There are few
Speaker 4: guys in.
Speaker 5: The history of the Marls organizations are better humans in Braxton.
Speaker 5: But they're just fear.
Speaker 4: They're just they don't think that he has a command,
Speaker 4: that he did what he showed in those two Major
Speaker 4: League starts earlier in the year. They fear that it
Speaker 4: was gonna happen again, and they're trying to keep his
Speaker 4: value high in case he wanted to use him as
Speaker 4: a trade ship. But like Eli was saying in the chat,
Speaker 4: you're not going to have him gained much value by
Speaker 4: dominating Triple A. As old as he is, so I
Speaker 4: believe he's exactly my age at twenty eight years old.
Speaker 4: So I'm not sure, like you said, nail in the
Speaker 4: coffin for Broxs, Unfortunately, you might see some other guys.
Speaker 4: I believe Bradley, but like is and you get an
Speaker 4: opportunity at some point this year and then that's not
Speaker 4: gonna excite many guys.
Speaker 5: But I think we started looking.
Speaker 4: I think you got to start looking at alternative names,
Speaker 4: alternative names, because that's what I was hearing, that those
Speaker 4: they're gonna get shot chances before Brax.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, at least they have conviction in it, clearly,
Speaker 2: because there have been several opportunities now over these past
Speaker 2: couple of months where it seems so obvious to give
Speaker 2: him a shot, to see what you had, and you
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, you said what I had already
Speaker 2: been thinking. It's just that there's there's no trade value
Speaker 2: to Braxi if he's only pitching at the Triple A level,
Speaker 2: if he's only pitched essentially hadn't done anything in the
Speaker 2: major since more than two calendar years ago in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four. Like the other teams, not going to give
Speaker 2: up anything. He's not an asset and the only way
Speaker 2: is to figure out what you have at the big
Speaker 2: league leuble. But yeah, I mean, it's at least they
Speaker 2: have conviction in it, even though I disagree, even though
Speaker 2: you feel bad for the player himself that he has
Speaker 2: worked his way back and that like the results prior
Speaker 2: to today were just spoke volumes about they said all
Speaker 2: they could possibly say about getting the opportunity, and as
Speaker 2: you mentioned some of the other names that are down there,
Speaker 2: we haven't seen Bradley Blaylock yet. It's been a very
Speaker 2: up and down season for him in Jacksonville, with overall
Speaker 2: numbers kind of pale in comparison to BRACS. But on
Speaker 2: his best days there is more swing and miss there.
Speaker 2: And it's a guy that is several years younger than
Speaker 2: brax Is as well. It's just uh, yeah, it's just yeah.
Speaker 2: The overall does it feels light down there? Doesn't feel
Speaker 2: like there's not an obvious night in training armor down there,
Speaker 2: especially with Thomas White being hurt, with Carson Milburant not
Speaker 2: translating to the triple A level the way that they
Speaker 2: may have envisioned a month ago. So he's not really
Speaker 2: a realistic reinforcement at this point. But yet somewhat, they
Speaker 2: still have not gone outside the organization yet in order
Speaker 2: to address that, even though they have that need right now.
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Speaker 2: And we touched on it briefly that Josh Ackness was
Speaker 2: supposed to start a rehab assignment. Was it today or yesterday?
Speaker 2: There was some sort of setback. I believe that Isaac
Speaker 2: alludes you on that, which is a bummer. That's a
Speaker 2: guy that has relatively high upside out of the pen.
Speaker 2: I wanted to briefly just we touched on it about
Speaker 2: the quite a bit of injuries that are impacting this team.
Speaker 2: I'd say now more than at any other point of
Speaker 2: the season is one. His injuries have kind of crescendoed
Speaker 2: in a way that actually makes a pretty significant difference
Speaker 2: in terms of who the Marlins have available. With Anthony
Speaker 2: Bender on the il and out for a little while,
Speaker 2: William Kempnor not really any timeline to return. John King
Speaker 2: is mostly relatively close to coming back that would help
Speaker 2: out the bullpen, of course, and Owen Casey as well
Speaker 2: should be relatively close to coming back from his calf injury.
Speaker 2: But yeah, then the others are still a little while
Speaker 2: away coming back. So that's kind of the team that
Speaker 2: you're looking at in terms of who's healthy, who's available.
Speaker 2: There are some healthy options down in Triple As to
Speaker 2: consider calling up. I think on a recent stream Kevin
Speaker 2: and I went over it was on filter that Kevin
Speaker 2: and I talked about some of the healthy position players
Speaker 2: they have down there. Connor Norby has had a couple
Speaker 2: of big games recently with Jacksonville. He's hitting well, he
Speaker 2: has defensive versatility, even though he's not particularly good at
Speaker 2: any of those positions. Yeah, he is, I don't, I
Speaker 2: guess he's positionless, but he's open minded about playing different spots. That's,
Speaker 2: you know, one direction that could go to help out
Speaker 2: the offense. Because we spent a lot of time talking
Speaker 2: about really the pitching on this show so far. But yeah,
Speaker 2: when it comes to Jacksonville, it's it's kind of slim
Speaker 2: pickings in terms of guys that you think could meaningfully
Speaker 2: make this team better right now. Yeah, it's a tough
Speaker 2: spot that they are in at the current moment. When
Speaker 2: it comes to that, you just mentioned Brandon White. I
Speaker 2: guess he's a guy that I'm kind of curious about it.
Speaker 2: He's not on the forty man roster, but he's had
Speaker 2: a nice, you can say, a breakout year down there,
Speaker 2: mainly when he was with Pensacola, but there's also been
Speaker 2: some dominant outings since he's been at a Triple. A
Speaker 2: six foot eight right hander who's throwing a whole lot
Speaker 2: harder this year than he ever has before. So that's
Speaker 2: a guy that could help in a couple of different roles.
Speaker 2: It's just a quite a roll of the dice because
Speaker 2: it's a guy that has obviously doesn't have any big
Speaker 2: league experience, who's totally off the prospect radar entering the year.
Speaker 2: I don't know, let's expect and yeah, Josh White not
Speaker 2: having quite the same year he had in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: So even though I don't see him get an opportunity,
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a whole lot of confidence about
Speaker 2: him moving the needle too much. Even though there should
Speaker 2: be a spot for him at some point as the
Speaker 2: rest of the summer goes on, I can't say that
Speaker 2: I'm super likely confident in it. Sean, I wanted to
Speaker 2: pull up this fun visual about how dramatically things have
Speaker 2: changed during this losing from in terms of the Fangrass
Speaker 2: playoff odds that were looking at they peaked about two
Speaker 2: weeks ago. It was fifty to fifty. I remember when
Speaker 2: it was approximately fifty to fifty shot when they were
Speaker 2: nine ten games over five hundred. I put it a
Speaker 2: poll on the FLF Twitter account. I said that Fangrass
Speaker 2: thinks it's a coin flip. What do you think are
Speaker 2: Marlin's more likely or not to make the playoffs? And
Speaker 2: it was like ninety something percent of fans in that
Speaker 2: moment felt like that was the case. And now we
Speaker 2: looked at the standings before you know, they're still right
Speaker 2: there in the standings, but the odds have plummeted from
Speaker 2: fifty one and a half percent to fourteen and a
Speaker 2: half percent as we enter recording right now, it's basically
Speaker 2: like how fitting it is. It's pretty much where they
Speaker 2: were in early April, back in a scenario where you
Speaker 2: know you can see them getting it done, but at
Speaker 2: least in this interpretation of the talent they have available,
Speaker 2: it's it's way down there. So just yeah, just in
Speaker 2: your vantage point, what does it does it feel like
Speaker 2: when it comes to the likelihood of them turning it
Speaker 2: around you does it feel like they've kind of squandered
Speaker 2: all those games in the last three months or do
Speaker 2: you still feel like there's a path back to being
Speaker 2: where they were just a couple of weeks ago, when
Speaker 2: it felt like they were where it really was something
Speaker 2: that could go either way.
Speaker 3: I mean it it definitely does feel like to me
Speaker 3: like they've squandered it. But the thing I also would
Speaker 3: have said the same thing and about the second or
Speaker 3: you know, on second week of April and looking back
Speaker 3: after that, my you know five and one start after
Speaker 3: that rock rockies in white sox cushion, you know, to
Speaker 3: start the year. So I guess, you know, there's that
Speaker 3: they've they've blown a they've blown a cushion before they
Speaker 3: could you get it back. That's such a closely packed
Speaker 3: race understandings. But yeah, I mean, I guess, I'm I guess,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm leaning out. I'm just hoping that they keep
Speaker 3: it competitive, you know, keep it interesting. That most of
Speaker 3: the good feelings that we had about you know, this
Speaker 3: roster are still there. As we touched on earlier. These
Speaker 3: have been close games. But but yeah, I think, uh,
Speaker 3: they've definitely have blown any advantage they gained for themselves.
Speaker 3: So now it really is just a tassa.
Speaker 2: One thing I wanted to get to. We'll can hear
Speaker 2: from Nate on this that the Marlins made somewhat of
Speaker 2: an I think he had an overdue move just yesterday
Speaker 2: that went under the riddar. I kind of picked it
Speaker 2: out where I noticed that Marcy wasn't in the starting
Speaker 2: lineup against Alrighty. That was the first time all year
Speaker 2: long that the Marlins had faced Alrighty and not automatically
Speaker 2: put Jacob Marci in there. He's been practically an everyday player.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of reasonable people thought he could
Speaker 2: be the best player on this entire team heading into
Speaker 2: this season, just given what he'd shown as a rookie
Speaker 2: last year. And now we're at a point where he's
Speaker 2: a part time player. Him and his story Ruiz that
Speaker 2: looks like are going to be relatively even split of
Speaker 2: reps in centerfield moving forward. What do you think about
Speaker 2: the timing of that, because the numbers are they've been
Speaker 2: basically the same all year long. He's been floating right
Speaker 2: around the Mendoz line, right around at six hundred ops
Speaker 2: all year long. What do you think about them finally
Speaker 2: making a subtle but important distinction between him being like
Speaker 2: basically an everyday guy now realizing that, yeah, he's slowly
Speaker 2: his role is being reduced until he proves otherwise.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you want to say it's subdue, But at the
Speaker 7: same time, when you have a rookie campaign like Jacob
Speaker 7: Marcy didn't how much, how valuable he is in center
Speaker 7: field defensively, and his value on the base pass when
Speaker 7: he does it.
Speaker 5: On base it's harmentitate.
Speaker 7: To die like that out And if you told me that,
Speaker 7: you know, in spring training that him and Asteria Reeds
Speaker 7: woud be splitting time with each other come July, I
Speaker 7: would have called you insane. But that's just the reality
Speaker 7: of the situation. It is just super unfortunate. Man, Like
Speaker 7: you said, he lied, I mean the entire season. I
Speaker 7: feel like it's been the same thing. He had that
Speaker 7: one little blip in Tampa, but then I watched those
Speaker 7: hits back last week and there was a lot of bloopers,
Speaker 7: a lot of weak contact that got down. So if
Speaker 7: you look at it from a whole season standpoint, I
Speaker 7: believe Kevin said in our chat yesterday, like minimum four
Speaker 7: hundred at that Jacob Marcy has been the worst hitter
Speaker 7: in the league, and on multitude of stats, it's extremely disappointing,
Speaker 7: and you look at it's thank god they have a
Speaker 7: guy like cam Canarella down there, a who's been starring
Speaker 7: at his first home yesterday, that might bail the Marlins
Speaker 7: out here. But it's just brutal this guy was supposed to,
Speaker 7: like you said, potentially be the best player on this team,
Speaker 7: and unfortunately he's been he's been weighing them down.
Speaker 5: There's no other way to put it.
Speaker 7: It's it's I think there's another word to explain this
Speaker 7: entire entire situation except unfortunate. Yeah, man, this is tough.
Speaker 7: So hopefully he'll be able to bounce back, at least mentally,
Speaker 7: because he's I mean this.
Speaker 5: Mentally.
Speaker 7: I feel like for a guy like him that had
Speaker 7: such an easy transition, appeared like to the major league
Speaker 7: level last year and then just come out and pretty
Speaker 7: much flopped for the past four or five months as
Speaker 7: stated told in his mind. So maybe just resetting a
Speaker 7: little bit and tetting off his feet, not playing every day,
Speaker 7: especially against Rady's and my team will are good. So
Speaker 7: hopefully this will turn around for Jacob. I'll have to
Speaker 7: wait and to see on it. It's just the end of
Speaker 7: it's tough.
Speaker 2: And Isaac, where are you on Canarella who I think
Speaker 2: he inevitably is linked to Marcy now moving forward? Just yeah,
Speaker 2: he's having such a big year. He was, as far
Speaker 2: as I can tell, like the first player in his
Speaker 2: entire twenty twenty five draft class to be an everyday
Speaker 2: guy at Triple A. And now we have not just
Speaker 2: TJ in the chat, but I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people naturally wondering, like, well, what could it hurt to
Speaker 2: give him a shot at the big league level now
Speaker 2: that he's just been so extraordinary statistically in the minors
Speaker 2: this year, especially, the power has exploded in a way
Speaker 2: to complement his other tools in a way that actually
Speaker 2: gets you really excited about the impact he can make.
Speaker 2: You know, where are you on that? Given that this
Speaker 2: team could use a little bit of a spark, even
Speaker 2: though this would be somewhat of it would be rushing
Speaker 2: him up relative to basically any other player in his class,
Speaker 2: and he'd be moving faster than we've seen a Marlin's
Speaker 2: prospect move in a very long time. Have you got
Speaker 2: this opportunity? But yeah, where do you stand as a
Speaker 2: guy that has only been in Jacksonville for a week
Speaker 2: at this point, but has just performed so well at
Speaker 2: this point that I think this is a real reasonable
Speaker 2: conversation to have about when he'll.
Speaker 4: Be ready and most certainly is and the fan in
Speaker 4: me would be ecstatic about the idea of having him
Speaker 4: come up and just basically replaced basically the biggest black
Speaker 4: hole you have in you're starting lineup, which unfortunately right
Speaker 4: now is Jacob Marci. However, that said that, this nine
Speaker 4: game losing streak has done not only bad things for
Speaker 4: the tradeline, but I think they're going to be less
Speaker 4: incentivized because one I thought kem Knnarelli could make for
Speaker 4: a pretty decent trade ship if they chose to go
Speaker 4: that route and acquire big lead tell and I think
Speaker 4: they could sell high on him because I'm not sure
Speaker 4: how they view him. I don't know if they think
Speaker 4: he's as good as he's shown this year or on
Speaker 4: the other front, they want to keep it and they
Speaker 4: don't want to addhim to the forty man quite yet
Speaker 4: and just see for next year. But now they're sort
Speaker 4: of in the middle here and I don't really know
Speaker 4: what they want to do. If they want to be
Speaker 4: aggressive and promote him, that is a possibility, and I
Speaker 4: do know that with position players, especially when you do
Speaker 4: promote a player, you want him to be there for good.
Speaker 4: And I'm not sure if the Martins are quite ready
Speaker 4: to hand him the keys to centerfield or any outfield
Speaker 4: spot quite yet. Even though with Casey injured and Marcy
Speaker 4: not performing, it couldn't hurt. But I'm not sure if
Speaker 4: the Marlins and Peter Binister can start the clock so early.
Speaker 4: And I think they'd like him. They don't want ad
Speaker 4: him to the forty min quite yet, if I had
Speaker 4: to make a guess, But I personally the models were
Speaker 4: five games over six teams over a little bit better
Speaker 4: right now, then yeah, maybe you could see them be
Speaker 4: a little bit more aggressive.
Speaker 2: Yeah. People don't want to hear this, but the forty
Speaker 2: man like complications are real because it's not only that
Speaker 2: you make a decision in the short term to get
Speaker 2: him on the forty min. It's that he's gonna be
Speaker 2: stuck there for many years after you put him on
Speaker 2: in the first place. Like, for example, there's a big
Speaker 2: difference in terms of having him on now and for
Speaker 2: the forsable future versus waiting until everything feels right early
Speaker 2: next year. To have all that flexibility the rest of
Speaker 2: the season into the off season, in particular for a
Speaker 2: team that is you would, I mean, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: really complicated this particular offseason. But given the lockout, given
Speaker 2: some other structural changes that make become to baseball but
Speaker 2: it's really important for the roster building to have flexibility
Speaker 2: if you want it, so you call him up if
Speaker 2: you feel he's absolutely going to improve the team. But
Speaker 2: that's that's always the complication with prospects. It's almost possible
Speaker 2: to know how much he's going to help right away
Speaker 2: with this team, and the fact that you know they
Speaker 2: still believe in Marcy, and the two are kind of redundant,
Speaker 2: Like if they bring up Canarella, it means probably they
Speaker 2: send down Marcy, And I think I actually would agree
Speaker 2: with the conservative but ultimately more appropriate move, which would
Speaker 2: be just to continue to give Marcie his even if
Speaker 2: it's less reps than his game most of the year,
Speaker 2: Just give him a chance to put it all together.
Speaker 2: Because given how excited everybody was about it this guy
Speaker 2: just a few months ago, the fact that he's seemingly
Speaker 2: healthy this entire way, like there's it's not unreasonable to
Speaker 2: expect that thing. He could be a great player these
Speaker 2: final couple of months of the year and salvage something
Speaker 2: from this year. So I wouldn't be so quick to
Speaker 2: demote him entirely. But I think they've really they've righted
Speaker 2: the needle in the appropriate way. By producing his playing time,
Speaker 2: giving the shot to Ruiz, who's who's been a bright
Speaker 2: spot basically from start to finish. Ever since Ruiz has
Speaker 2: been healthy, he's been a productive, helpful player. He stole
Speaker 2: two more bases last night. He's up to twenty two
Speaker 2: steals as a guy that's like played half the games.
Speaker 2: Almost a perfect success right in that time, we do
Speaker 2: have a question from actually about uh one move the
Speaker 2: front office made that looks way better now than when
Speaker 2: it happened originally.
Speaker 5: And I guess to.
Speaker 2: Me, I start with Ruiz. He ties in there pretty
Speaker 2: pretty perfectly, because I was not a fan of them
Speaker 2: going from they essentially started last off season with Dane
Speaker 2: Meers in that role, and then they went to Ruiz,
Speaker 2: and then Ruiz gets hurt, and then they pick up
Speaker 2: like Austin Slater, And to me, I thought that progression
Speaker 2: was really depressing, to go from Dane to Ruiz, who
Speaker 2: I didn't think could hit whatsoever, to Slater, who I
Speaker 2: thought was frankly washed up. And that proved to be
Speaker 2: the case. I'll hear from you guys on that as well.
Speaker 2: To just to keep things a little bit positive, moves
Speaker 2: that we're liking a lot more right now that are
Speaker 2: really important to keeping the seam afloat compared to what
Speaker 2: we thought they looked like when the move was made.
Speaker 2: What stands out to you, Nate outside of like the
Speaker 2: Ruiz trade when it comes to that.
Speaker 7: Well, I was gonna do with Ruiz too, in just
Speaker 7: the way that the Marlins are played for the past
Speaker 7: two years with their small ball idea ideology and you
Speaker 7: bring it ally Estrade. Ruiz was not only great at
Speaker 7: ceiling second, but laying down bunch like we saw Milwaukee
Speaker 7: for hits and ceiling third, which has been I mean
Speaker 7: priceless for this prominence team this year. I'll come back
Speaker 7: to me, I'll fame another one, but I feel like
Speaker 7: top of the head, it's hard to go with the
Speaker 7: guy that's not a Seria Reuise.
Speaker 3: M John King' that's the other one where it's like, okay, great,
Speaker 3: where does add And just felt more like Adam talent
Speaker 3: to the roster a competition here for camp, but he's
Speaker 3: you know, you can argue he's been the best reliever
Speaker 3: the team and definitely missing him right now. So I
Speaker 3: think just you know, his absence just kind of underscoring
Speaker 3: what a big win that really was you.
Speaker 4: Know what, I'm going to go a little bit off
Speaker 4: the grid here because I know it was a it
Speaker 4: was a popular trade, This was a popular player that
Speaker 4: they wanted to acquire at the time. But still I
Speaker 4: had my reservations on both ends of it. With the
Speaker 4: Edward Cabrera for Own Casey trade, I was concerned that
Speaker 4: Carbrera would perform extremely well, and I was concerned that
Speaker 4: Casey was going to his strikeout problems were going to
Speaker 4: really just translate heavily to the major leagues and he
Speaker 4: wouldn't be a productivity player.
Speaker 5: And Casey really proved me wrong.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, he got into with the cap strain and I'm
Speaker 4: not sure what that time table looks like.
Speaker 5: But Own Casey really all around. Just after that really
Speaker 5: really lengthy rush stretch. I think it was in May
Speaker 5: or honestly late April. It was where he just couldn't
Speaker 5: hit the ball.
Speaker 4: He's really turned it around, and I just really liked
Speaker 4: the short swing, the compact, the power he has.
Speaker 5: He can strike out.
Speaker 4: Thirty percent of the time and he's still going to
Speaker 4: be a valuable every day major league So I think
Speaker 4: that's one move that it looked okay at the time.
Speaker 5: And now what I think. I'm very happy with that trade.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think one that was just more so of
Speaker 7: an after thought that a guy we really don't talk
Speaker 7: about it as much as we should, in my opinion,
Speaker 7: is Ari Burks and Hernandez. They signed him as a
Speaker 7: minor league free agent twenty twenty five, came up halfway
Speaker 7: through the year, and he's been a very valuable piece
Speaker 7: of this team evercentral turning from tri Pla, so as
Speaker 7: we say hello Kevin from the airport, he also had
Speaker 7: a great seat, He had a great series. I went Kevin,
Speaker 7: got to see him in Houston, and he's been a
Speaker 7: really big power back from this team that has needed it,
Speaker 7: especially with Casey going to down so bid back from
Speaker 7: the right side of the team that is really, you know,
Speaker 7: heavily reliant on left you. So I brought Hernandez.
Speaker 5: I see you dark mm and.
Speaker 2: We kind of sped through this. Actually you brought up Hernandez,
Speaker 2: And this is a tough thing. I did want to
Speaker 2: get to kind of briefly on here, like even though
Speaker 2: we don't want to make a dramatic pivot to the
Speaker 2: Marlins being bye bye bye, to being actually open minded
Speaker 2: to selling like Kevin. This is something that we've talked
Speaker 2: about in terms of, you know, what the Marlins might
Speaker 2: need if they were contending that they really need another
Speaker 2: right handed bat, but there really aren't that many out there.
Speaker 2: And at the same time, though, if you compare Bert
Speaker 2: to some of the guys that are on the market,
Speaker 2: like Bird is to a lot of other teams, like
Speaker 2: Hernandez is gonna be really desirable to other teams. And
Speaker 2: I saw this mentions I can't remember by who, and
Speaker 2: it's something that like it's kind of stuck on the
Speaker 2: top of my mind that if the Marlins either not
Speaker 2: not necessarily as sellers, but if they end up doing
Speaker 2: like some creative shake up to their team. I feel
Speaker 2: like Bert, that he's performed this year, that's the guy
Speaker 2: that could bring out a pretty big hole for a
Speaker 2: guy that they signed as a minor league free agent
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. Like if they're that the
Speaker 2: Bendix motto is always to sell high on these kind
Speaker 2: of assets. Burt is probably near the peak of his
Speaker 2: value at this moment, given the way that especially the
Speaker 2: way that he's been hitting since he came up from
Speaker 2: Triple A a couple months ago.
Speaker 10: Yeah, can you guys hear me. First of all, yeah,
Speaker 10: we got you cool.
Speaker 11: Yeah, No, that's honestly the guy that hadn't crossed my
Speaker 11: mind in terms of the guy that they.
Speaker 10: Could move on from Bert.
Speaker 11: Definitely, right handed bats are very coveted in the trade market.
Speaker 11: As you got no Dad Live, the Mornins need a
Speaker 11: right handed bat, specifically preferably at third base. That they
Speaker 11: were into a buyer's mode, which right now definitely not there.
Speaker 11: But no, Burt is a guy who could probably bring
Speaker 11: you back a couple of prospects, and I think the
Speaker 11: big thing with him is the years of control that
Speaker 11: he does have remaining. I mean that that is very lucrative,
Speaker 11: especially in the position player market that you usually see
Speaker 11: a lot of rentals moved on from, not really guys
Speaker 11: with your control. That's why on the pitching market, a
Speaker 11: guy like we Detmers would very much you know Garner,
Speaker 11: a big Hall or even Ezekiel Durant too of the Rangers,
Speaker 11: a right handed third baseman who I don't think is
Speaker 11: gonna get moved because the Rangers aren't a pretty favorable spot.
Speaker 11: But this Astras team certainly showed him that they may
Speaker 11: have to end up selling because Houston played a very
Speaker 11: good series against Miami.
Speaker 10: I'll probably have you on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should reference this question from Ashley and the chat.
Speaker 2: Just your quick thoughts about covering in Houston in particular,
Speaker 2: that's a new ballpark for us, and just in general
Speaker 2: this season, you've done quite a bit of globe trotting
Speaker 2: with your road coverage. So are there particular features from
Speaker 2: these road ballparks that you've really enjoyed and I would
Speaker 2: like to see maybe in Miami someday.
Speaker 11: Yeah, this was This is an interesting one, like by
Speaker 11: far the most interesting of the ones I've gone to.
Speaker 11: And mind you, I've been to the Trop and people
Speaker 11: you know, say that the trop sucks. Actually, like the TRUP,
Speaker 11: Houston was like one of the more the most old
Speaker 11: school of ballpark I've been to. I think, like I know,
Speaker 11: Isaac will appreciate this. The in game part of it.
Speaker 11: There was only one game.
Speaker 10: The whole time.
Speaker 11: It was this canned shuffle thing like you do with
Speaker 11: the like the moms with the hats.
Speaker 10: It was a Goya sponsored one.
Speaker 11: And outside of that, they have this tradition in the
Speaker 11: seventh inning where they sing in the heart of Texas.
Speaker 11: I think that's what the song is called whatever, and
Speaker 11: they have broadcasters throw like crackerjack and peanuts out.
Speaker 10: Into the day.
Speaker 5: I saw that.
Speaker 10: That's that's about it.
Speaker 11: Like there's no real there's no in game host, there's
Speaker 11: no slots, there's no deal or no deal and what
Speaker 11: regardless of how bad the team could be. And this
Speaker 11: is a down year for the Astros. They they get
Speaker 11: thirty thousand a night, and there was thirty thousand each
Speaker 11: night there, but no, this was definitely the most interesting
Speaker 11: of the ballparks I've been to a lot more old
Speaker 11: school feels old. The train does move. I actually did
Speaker 11: not know it moved, but it does every time. Every
Speaker 11: time there's a homer, it gets very loud in there.
Speaker 11: And you guys definitely spoke about him, but you're don
Speaker 11: Alvarez hits absolute tanks. That guy should be the MVP
Speaker 11: of the American League, unanimous because what he does is
Speaker 11: impressive and it's such a sweet swing. But I mean,
Speaker 11: you look at the homer he hit off Sandy. It
Speaker 11: was impressive because it's not it wasn't even a terrible
Speaker 11: pitch from Sandy. It was pretty low. He had been
Speaker 11: getting guys to swing and missed on that all day.
Speaker 11: Long and Jordon just got a good piece of it
Speaker 11: and took an opposite field too, which is very tough
Speaker 11: to do at that ballpark. So yeah, press box wise
Speaker 11: for media folks, smallest subinin by far Tampa.
Speaker 10: Ste Throngs was huge. It was very low. I thought
Speaker 10: we're gonna get a foul ball our way.
Speaker 11: It came close a couple of times, but definitely the
Speaker 11: oldest feeling price box with a bunch that I've been
Speaker 11: to personally.
Speaker 10: But no, it was great.
Speaker 11: Houston's awesome ballpark was nice, So yeah, I can't complain
Speaker 11: Outside of the games, it was.
Speaker 10: A great time.
Speaker 2: That's true. It's tough, but it was phenomenal.
Speaker 10: To the food.
Speaker 11: Phenomenal, phenomenal food. Omelet had an omelet, They had people
Speaker 11: making omelets for you, serving you brisket.
Speaker 10: It was great.
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, as someone who who eat stolen
Speaker 11: depot park food, this was a step.
Speaker 10: Up for sure.
Speaker 7: I'm just surprised they can do it. They can, like
Speaker 7: watch a baseball game without a Scoopa six seven cam.
Speaker 7: I didn't know that was a possibility, right.
Speaker 11: I will say, I will say it was a little
Speaker 11: bit like it felt boring, but I guess just watch
Speaker 11: like it just felt more boring, not very lively. But
Speaker 11: I guess there's that they make the show the baseball game,
Speaker 11: and rightfully so, so a lot of credit goes to them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for some reason, I don't know where the Marlins
Speaker 5: get this from, they feel the need to distract the
Speaker 5: fans from the product on the field, as if the
Speaker 5: baseball isn't enough, as if the Cy Young Award winner
Speaker 5: and your five wins shorts up aren't enough, And it's
Speaker 5: just it's it's unbearable because it's every halfening that there's
Speaker 5: some sort of non baseball related gimmick going on, and anyway,
Speaker 5: I can go up on for that for hours. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm glad Houston does it right.
Speaker 4: And that's a perennial World Series contender, so they know
Speaker 4: what they're doing on and off the field.
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Speaker 2: We were saying, I'm talking about some podcast strategy earlier
Speaker 2: this month. I wasn't thinking that we'd spend too much
Speaker 2: time like previewing these upcoming series moving forward. But this
Speaker 2: is absolutely an exception where this Padres team is right
Speaker 2: in the thick of the wildcard race with the Marlins.
Speaker 2: They have three games now coming up at Lone Deepot
Speaker 2: Park that will have a big influence on what these
Speaker 2: teams do at the didn on They're both in almost
Speaker 2: the exact same situation where you could see them going
Speaker 2: either way depending on how they perform leading up to
Speaker 2: next Monday a week from then. So I think we
Speaker 2: got to dive into the Padre a little bit over
Speaker 2: these three games. I'll start with you, Sean like, this
Speaker 2: is a team that has been in firm playoff contention
Speaker 2: for like the last four years, and then this year
Speaker 2: has been somewhat of an exception from that. They've been
Speaker 2: under five hundred for a lot of this first half.
Speaker 2: It's been Mason Miller and a lot of underachievers, a
Speaker 2: lot of star players that aren't actually producing quite a
Speaker 2: little that we thought entering this year. So you know,
Speaker 2: where's your mind go first with this Padres team, the
Speaker 2: fact that they're several games under five hundred, that they're
Speaker 2: still looking up at the Marlins and the standings. They
Speaker 2: lost another winnable game today entering this series to the Braves,
Speaker 2: the Braves actually doing the Marlins a solid by winning
Speaker 2: that series against the Padres. Yeah, what sticks out most
Speaker 2: about this team and the fact that despite their star power,
Speaker 2: despite a pretty high payroll, that they've been mediocre to
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of go to the stars honestly.
Speaker 3: I mean lately both Fernando Tatis and Manny Machada are
Speaker 3: starting to come around, and that's just in time to
Speaker 3: face the Marlins, and particularly in Machada coming around and
Speaker 3: you know, coming home, that terrifies me, as the Marlins
Speaker 3: do need to win this series, and I think Machila's
Speaker 3: going to have something to say about that and all
Speaker 3: those tvas on the Marlin side of the pitching ledger
Speaker 3: in this series. But yeah, it's you know, keeping them
Speaker 3: off the board. It is another series, like many, they've
Speaker 3: had a flight where you could kind of view this
Speaker 3: as the Marlins getting your preview of players that could
Speaker 3: be available at the deadline when we were thinking of them,
Speaker 3: you know, as aggressive buyers. You know, the theoretically the
Speaker 3: Astros are going to be right down to the wire
Speaker 3: on whether they're going to buy or sell. The Padres
Speaker 3: as we said, another team in that position. But yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, some without their all their best, you know
Speaker 3: pictures available in the series. The Marlins are going to
Speaker 3: have to keep Tatisa Machado in check, and that's been
Speaker 3: a problem for them in the in the past.
Speaker 2: The problem starters for the Padres side really jumped at
Speaker 2: me because I think that to some extent, aside from
Speaker 2: a lot of their hitters underperforming, their rotation is kind
Speaker 2: of being held together by duct tape in glue. It's
Speaker 2: Harmon Marquez, it's the corpse of Walker Buehler in the
Speaker 2: final game, and in the middle one, it's JP Sears,
Speaker 2: like a guy that was pretty far down their depth
Speaker 2: chart as recently as last year. Yeah, we'll go to Nate.
Speaker 2: I guess like this is a Marlins offense. I think
Speaker 2: that has kind of been the main issue during the
Speaker 2: course of this losing streak is that they just never
Speaker 2: pop off for a crooked number or the course of
Speaker 2: the streak more almost there's only been I think you
Speaker 2: dug up the stat well last night that they've only
Speaker 2: topped three runs twice over these like nine games. This
Speaker 2: should be a golden opportunity to do so, right, this
Speaker 2: team that has played so well at home this year
Speaker 2: and now going up against these starting pitchers that are
Speaker 2: like charitably speaking, back end arms in all three of
Speaker 2: these games. Yeah, if not now, then when would this
Speaker 2: Marlinds offense kind of exploded in one of these games
Speaker 2: to stabilize things after this? It's been a pretty extended
Speaker 2: dry spell.
Speaker 7: For them, exactly right, And they've been a much better
Speaker 7: team at Lone Depot Park than on the road for
Speaker 7: the entirety of the season, even during the.
Speaker 10: Majority of that June stretch.
Speaker 7: And I just checked the Phillies probables for the first
Speaker 7: time after this series and it's Wheeler, Nola and Lozarda.
Speaker 7: So if there was ever a time for this Marlins
Speaker 7: team to start in it would be tomorrow and this
Speaker 7: entire series in San Diego.
Speaker 5: I'd let you guys have mentioned.
Speaker 7: I mean, this team is neck and neck with them
Speaker 7: all of a sudden in the wild card race, and
Speaker 7: I trust a guy like AJ Prowler to go out
Speaker 7: and get guys to push them over the top, compared
Speaker 7: to Peter Bennix, who, like again we get to see
Speaker 7: by the deadline and you know, probably don't want to
Speaker 7: dish out too many assets completely on the other end
Speaker 7: of the spectrum from Preler, So the Marlins will had
Speaker 7: their chance.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 7: I think the losing streak ends tomorrow, to be honest
Speaker 7: with you, just getting back and home, I feel like
Speaker 7: they had I mean, like you did a touch on. Also,
Speaker 7: they ever really been outmatched like crazy this entire stretch,
Speaker 7: even that that first Friday game at lone depot into
Speaker 7: Parkner Messig, who was an All Star, they hunt around
Speaker 7: for the entirety of that band didn'tet assuming they needed
Speaker 7: it too. So I think tomorrow they finally break it.
Speaker 7: Like you said, you a lot of back end arms.
Speaker 7: I hope you'll get the middle of this order eased up.
Speaker 7: Like I said, x Autos Tours who have been pulled
Speaker 7: for the majority of the stretch and keep guys like
Speaker 7: meam Hicks and Grifferent to nine hot. So the time
Speaker 7: is now because if they don't do it, then then
Speaker 7: they're going to have a hell of a lot bigger
Speaker 7: challenge coming up.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's the most frustrating part about the stretch, right.
Speaker 11: I think before yesterday, before yesterday's game, seven of the
Speaker 11: eight games that they've lost and had lost in where
Speaker 11: by two runs or less.
Speaker 10: So it's not like they're getting blown out and this
Speaker 10: team is.
Speaker 11: Like a hoopse of what we saw on you know,
Speaker 11: the first half. But it's not like they're playing, you know,
Speaker 11: getting blown out and they have no shot at winning.
Speaker 11: Although I will say the Astro series certainly felt like
Speaker 11: that where they maybe were a lot there.
Speaker 10: It was close games, but it felt like they were more.
Speaker 11: Out of it than in the games. Just the way
Speaker 11: that they were hitting out just frustrating that was. But yeah,
Speaker 11: this is not a very good Potter's scene in my opinion.
Speaker 11: I actually think they'll end up selling and selling big time.
Speaker 11: I know there's rumors about Mason Miller. I would have
Speaker 11: loved to have Adrian Morrohane on the Marlins lefty reliever
Speaker 11: if they were to buy, but I just don't see
Speaker 11: that right now.
Speaker 10: As a possibility in terms of if they do, you know,
Speaker 10: I just gotta see where they're at. And this is
Speaker 10: a big series. This is huge.
Speaker 11: I mean, this could probably sway the Marlins' desires of
Speaker 11: buying standing Pad or just selling. So I think this
Speaker 11: one is probably bigger than the Phillis one because at
Speaker 11: this point, the divisions out of reach it was at
Speaker 11: one point and now it's not. It would really have
Speaker 11: to be a free fall through the Phillies for the
Speaker 11: Marlins to really set themselves on the spot where they
Speaker 11: could keep talking about the Second World Guard.
Speaker 10: But I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and take this with a rain of salt. Because
Speaker 7: right before the Martins went to Houston, ashers are coming
Speaker 7: off a sweep, but San Diego's two and five coming
Speaker 7: out of the All Star breaks. So hopefully in Miami,
Speaker 7: all the factors are lining up for them to finally
Speaker 7: break out of the street then are on their steps
Speaker 7: going to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this could be a really fun weekend at Lone
Speaker 5: DEEPO Park.
Speaker 4: And I strongly encourage you guys ignore the Lebron rumors,
Speaker 4: ignore everything else. So I would go out to Lone
Speaker 4: Depot parky that reverse trade turner thing.
Speaker 5: Maybe come and give these guys a whole standing ovation.
Speaker 5: As cheesy as it was, Hey, maybe they could use
Speaker 5: some support like That's never been done in this entire
Speaker 5: franchise of the history. There's never been like a whole
Speaker 5: turnout for a specific time, and there's ever a time.
Speaker 5: Go to Lone DEEPO Park. It's a sexy opponent. It's
Speaker 5: a fun team you'll have. I can't say it's a
Speaker 5: sexy starting pitcher tomorrow, but it'll be a fun time.
Speaker 5: I think that he that Marlins could could use the support.
Speaker 11: Make sure to go watch Lake Balker is good touch
Speaker 11: on this one common from David.
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the things holding back this offense, Kevin
Speaker 2: notice it in particularly this past series was all the
Speaker 2: strikeouts against Houston, and that's very out of character for
Speaker 2: this team in the roster that they have. That's kind
Speaker 2: of the main thing that you know to see turned arounds.
Speaker 2: And again with the problems pitchers coming up for the Padres,
Speaker 2: as long as you're not in the situations that you
Speaker 2: have to face the Dragon in the ninth inning, Mason Miller,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of other guys on this pitching staff
Speaker 2: you can put the ball in play against them, and
Speaker 2: you would hope that that is the potentially the main
Speaker 2: difference and an opportunity for the Marlins to respond, just
Speaker 2: because they're going up against guys that don't have quite
Speaker 2: as much swing and miss stuff these next few days.
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Speaker 2: guys seem cautiously optimistic about how this Padre series is
Speaker 2: going to go. If the Marlins do get swept again
Speaker 2: these next three days, it would be unprecedented. They've never
Speaker 2: had a single season losing streak beyond eleven games in
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Speaker 2: eight team had two separate eleven game losing streaks. No
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Speaker 2: prediction time. That's my prediction, but who knows? Predictions time?
Speaker 2: Here nearly two thirds of the way through this Marlin season.
Speaker 2: As always, we are looking ahead to how many games
Speaker 2: Marlins will win in their upcoming series. Who will be
Speaker 2: the series MVP as determined by win probability. Added a
Speaker 2: very quick limps here at the previous series and what
Speaker 2: people thought coming into that. Despite how down this team
Speaker 2: has been, it was basically a fifty to fifty split
Speaker 2: between people thinking the Marlins we're going to bounce back
Speaker 2: and those thinking the Astros would win. And Jordan Alpharez
Speaker 2: was far and away the most popular series MVP pick,
Speaker 2: and that proved to be accurate. So he is he
Speaker 2: gained a few points from people over there. Jeremiah Geiger
Speaker 2: is still on top of our leader board here, but
Speaker 2: his lead is gradually thinning because he is, you know, Jeremiah,
Speaker 2: He's a very optimistic guy and he considues to Vic
Speaker 2: the Marlins, so he's been stuck in place for a
Speaker 2: little while there. It's now super sub David Fernandez within
Speaker 2: five points of him on the overall leaderboard, and several
Speaker 2: other super subs nipping on his heels right there. So
Speaker 2: we keep this leaderboard for our staffers. Our super subs
Speaker 2: are their last stream guests, and we monitored them all
Speaker 2: season long. It traditionally comes right down to the wire,
Speaker 2: and I think that's going to be the case yet
Speaker 2: again here on this show. So it's another three game
Speaker 2: series against the Padres. I kind of got an idea
Speaker 2: about where you guys might be leaning on this one.
Speaker 2: But now it's time to make it official. So we'll
Speaker 2: get the music started and we'll start off with Kevin
Speaker 2: first at the airport for his serious predictions Marlins versus Padres.
Speaker 11: There we go, all right, I gotta go Marbles stick
Speaker 11: two out of three. Just let's stay optimistic and serious.
Speaker 11: MVP I'm gonna go to Joe Mack. Joe Mack got
Speaker 11: an Austin serious in Houston, and I'm sure guys spoke
Speaker 11: about it, but the fact that he leaves Major League
Speaker 11: Bay small hot stealings at least the last time I
Speaker 11: checked is is insane, especially since it got called up
Speaker 11: on May fourth. The power is starting to show a
Speaker 11: lot more hit two noops in Houston. So yeah, Markins
Speaker 11: will bounce back snap the street and Joe Mack will
Speaker 11: be a big.
Speaker 2: Reason why Isaaca do your predictions, sir.
Speaker 5: It's gonna turn around in a big way.
Speaker 4: The Martins are going to sweep the San Diego Padres
Speaker 4: over the weekend of Long d Park and Uri peret
Speaker 4: here he's MVP.
Speaker 2: Okay, Sean Millerrick your turn.
Speaker 5: Your hands on.
Speaker 3: Marlins will put an end to the streak of getting swept,
Speaker 3: but they will only win one game in this series.
Speaker 3: Manny Machado will be the series MVP.
Speaker 2: Okay, mister Nate, go ahead.
Speaker 7: I will lean on the side of optimism as well.
Speaker 7: Something's telling me they're gonna come back on track after Why,
Speaker 7: It's almost been two weeks since the Rounds won a game,
Speaker 7: so I think they take two out of three in
Speaker 7: San Diego and their guy hottle Upez their stars and
Speaker 7: will leave the way. Then he has two homers a
Speaker 7: series are right back on track and the Marlins.
Speaker 5: Back on tracks.
Speaker 2: Hmm, I'm gonna air on the side of content entertainment purposes.
Speaker 2: I think the Marlins are gonna lose this series again,
Speaker 2: not get swept, but they're gonna be right on the
Speaker 2: precipice losing the first two of the series, matching a
Speaker 2: franchise record for longest winning streaks. The Tongus lose streak
Speaker 2: and then in the series finale salvage things and just
Speaker 2: barely Eke passed. I think from a storytelling perspective, having
Speaker 2: them potentially dip below the five hundred mark after being
Speaker 2: so high up in such a relatively short period of
Speaker 2: time would be U Yeah, that'd be a whole lot
Speaker 2: for us to chew on. Even though, of course I
Speaker 2: think that they're capable of winning the series. I just
Speaker 2: think that the frustration is going to continue until they
Speaker 2: prove otherwise. So yeah, all the Padres winning two out
Speaker 2: of three this weekends in Miami, with the series VP
Speaker 2: going to Jackson Merrill. Marlin still insist on using all
Speaker 2: these right handed pitchers, and I think left handed batters
Speaker 2: are continuing to going to be an opportunity to really
Speaker 2: pop off. We saw jord On Alvarez do that in Houston,
Speaker 2: and I think Jackson Merrill, who himself is in the
Speaker 2: midst of a very very poor season, I think will
Speaker 2: have one of his very best stretches of twenty twenty
Speaker 2: six to give the Marlins some frustrations over the course
Speaker 2: of these three games. And that's our show fof Live
Speaker 2: here on the Fishing On First Podcast presented by jetske
Speaker 2: Rentals of South Florida on the Foul Territory Network. Thanks
Speaker 2: everybody for tuning in. From Eli and Kevin, Isaac, Nate, Sean,
Speaker 2: we even had Jeremiah on for brief first part of
Speaker 2: the show as well. Yeah, it's gonna be busy weekend.
Speaker 2: And there's just so much heided Heidens importance attached to
Speaker 2: these games, this series and then especially the next two
Speaker 2: following that, heading up into the trade deadline. It is
Speaker 2: the postseason race before the actual postseason race, as just
Speaker 2: a premium on the Marlins who win these games, and
Speaker 2: I think understandably people have been disappointed and some have
Speaker 2: been freaking out and it's hard to really push back
Speaker 2: against that when they've lost some money in a row.
Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens this weekend. We'll have you
Speaker 2: covered either way from Lone Depot Park, and it's at
Speaker 2: least it's a blessing to have this team relatively close
Speaker 2: in the picture at this stage of the season. So
Speaker 2: we're going to continue to give it are all leading
Speaker 2: up to the deadline, and we'll be on that regardless
Speaker 2: of the results on the field. Next stream will probably
Speaker 2: be on Sunday, right after the end of this Padre series,
Speaker 2: so we'll talk to you more than I appreciate all
Speaker 2: the support that you've given us so far and helpe
Speaker 2: you keep that up throughout the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: As always, go Fish