WEBVTT - Swept Again, How Can Marlins Recover Before Deadline? 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:02.920 Hey, this is Kyle Stowers and you're listening to Fish 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:03.480 on First. 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.240 Welcome Fish on First. Live on the Fish on First 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.639 podcast presented by jet Ski Rentals of South Florida. We're 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.080 part of the Foul Territory Network and I am Eli 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.159 Susman here on this Marlins off a founder of fof 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.160 We have a lot of ideas just talking about before 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:58.200 the stream, a whole lot of good movies out recently 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.760 that we've been thinking about reviewing a lot of classic 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.560 Marlins games that I've been familiarizing myself with, just because 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.040 this current team has not been providing the type of 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:12.160 compelling and inspiring material that Marlins fans kind of need. 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.360 Right now, we're talking in the midst of a nine 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.560 game Marlins a losing street. It's one of the longest 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.520 losing streets in franchise history, and yet I still have 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.280 a smile on my face as I usually do. Joined 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:25.520 by Isaaca Zoo, Jeremiah Geiger, Nate Krsmer, Sean Millrick here 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:27.920 on this off day. Appreciate everybody that's joining us live 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.080 on either YouTube or Twitter. But you could get these pods, 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.039 of course on our podcast channel wherever you listen to 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.680 our pod, and I think we'll have Kevin potentially checking 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.319 in from the airport. He provided live coverage. We invested 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.760 in live coverage of this series against the Astros, where 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.280 the Marlins got stuckt for the third consecutive series. Yeah, 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.640 a lot to get to. I'm not gonna go too 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:53.120 long on this at this particular juncture, but I think, well, 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.640 in the absence of Kevin, we also had Sean Millrick 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.240 on hand for what at least one of the games 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.400 in Houston, So I think we're to dive right into that. Sean, 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.240 as somebody you are Texas corresponded and this is what 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.040 qualifies as a home game for you sort of just Yeah, 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:13.040 your takeaways from from being there for these three games 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.960 against Houston as the Marlins lose their seventh, their eighth, 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.720 and then their ninth consecutive games and continue to tumble 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.079 perilously close to the five hundred mark. 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.560 Yeah, I was there on Monday night from that uh 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.920 eight to five defeat that seems quite closer than it was. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.840 That was just really a shellacking all the way through, 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.000 pretty much pretty much all the way downhill from the 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:41.680 moment that uh the game started. Highlight was definitely Tyler 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.919 Phillips signing a ball from my fivroute, you know, made 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.359 made her day. That was great. As far as the 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.800 Marlins on the field though, just you know, not what 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:52.400 I was hoping to see. A couple of home runs 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:56.080 there were great from Mac and Hicks, but that you'red 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.519 and Alphareez guy, he's pretty good at hitting home runs too, 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.440 And that seemed to be the story of that of 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.840 that series. Sorry, I was happy to check off another ballpark. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:10.240 Was pretty ugly baseball from the Marlins throughout just strikeouts 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.520 kept getting wrapped up on the scoreboard. I want to 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.560 say they had at least fifteen strikeouts on Monday night. 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.480 Just got really sick of seeing that astronaut emoji they 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.919 kept going up on the JumboTron. Kevin could back me 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.600 up on that one. My little astronaut waves the flag 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.840 every time the Marlins struck out, and that astronaut must 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.640 have been exhausted by the end of this series. 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.119 He touched on it. And there have been some shortcomings 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.640 in terms of basic fundamentals of this Marlins team doing 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.480 some of the things that have made them such a 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.600 consistent winning team for a lot of the previous month 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:46.320 and a half, but Isaac, overall, like something that really 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.720 jumps out to me. During this entire losing streak, the 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.040 margin of margin of defeat, I should say, hasn't been 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.800 more than three runs in any single game. There some 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:55.880 that I guess have been a little bit more upside 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:59.720 than the score indicates, but that's that's for me. Where 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.880 like children to grasp what exactly to make of this, 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.720 because even though it is one of a two week 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.320 losing streak, believe it or not, like there's only in 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.280 terms of run differential. In terms of like the overall 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:16.120 numbers during the streak, they're not particularly grizzly, So like, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.799 how much has your understanding of this team's ability actually 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:21.960 changed during the streak given the fact that for a 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.159 lot of these games they are relatively close, especially in 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.479 that like serious finality. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.960 It's funny because when they were doing really, really well, 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.640 I said to myself that this is just completely reshaping 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.360 what I thought I knew about baseball what a good 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.720 team had to look like, and so here they don't 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.239 look like a bad team. And put out a tweet 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.560 that says, hey, they're not this bad either, but they're 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.320 probably not as good as what they showed in June 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:47.120 or somewhere in the middle, So I don't I'm not panicking, 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.960 but the fact that these two run games feel like 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.720 such lopsided affairs, it reminds you of that twenty thirteen 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.680 season when they could not buy a run and any 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.200 time they were down by one immediately it felt like 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.799 it was insurmountable. So that's what it sort of reminds 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:02.839 me of a little bit. I think they have really 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.279 gotten unlucky with the injuries. 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:04.960 I think it'd be. 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.840 Unfair not to share what's happened to the bullpen, and 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.960 the fact the Fairbanks is closing game is a direct 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.520 result of those injuries. To Bender acting this who had 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.360 apparently a set back today Triple A John King unavailable 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.000 and then you're starting You're also are starting picture going 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:18.200 on the. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.520 Ail as well. So I think with a little more 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.520 luck about every team goes through injuries, but actually with 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.320 a little more luck on that front, I think you 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.400 don't see this sort of catastrophe. So I still think 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:28.960 they're a good team. 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.160 I still think they're a playoff contending team, but unfortunately 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.560 this nine game losing streak has just set them back, 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.359 along with the rest of the National League mid teams 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.640 that now there's six teams vying for that one spot, 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.039 and all that momentum is completely eliminated, and it's certainly 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.160 going to change the direction or at least a strategy 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.040 that the Marlins take at the deadline. 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.320 In what ten. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.240 Days m HM, as usual, we need to take a 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.120 quick peek at where the wild card standings are here 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.320 in early Thursday evenings. There's a game going on right 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.599 now between the teams in this picture, the d Backs 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.040 and the Cardinals. Don't have the result of that. As 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.720 bad as things look, the Marlins just game and a 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.280 half down from that final wild card spot, but it's 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:10.880 a big jumble of teams all of a sudden. Now 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.640 they're almost as close to I mean, they're they're tied 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:17.760 with this Nationals team, and the fact that even like 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.839 the Cincinnati Reds, a team that felt like an obvious 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.480 buyer just a few days ago, there's only a four 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.320 game gap between them right now and the Marlins. But 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.839 you see the overall numbers, like there have been years 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.480 where there's been like that big disparity between the Marlins 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.640 run differential and their record. This year it's bang even 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.640 like they're plus eleven overall on run differential just one 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.760 game over five hundred. Those are almost perfectly lined, where 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.159 like the overall numbers would tell you that they're just 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:46.040 a slightly above average team. I want to go to 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:47.719 I'll go to Jeremiah here. I don't think we I 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.080 think we haven't just part of the show. 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:49.800 What. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.880 Yeah, kind of a similar question to you, where like 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.120 the fact that the overall numbers say that this is 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.839 a slightly better than average team. Is that where you're 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.560 at right now? Or are you just focus on like 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.280 the most recent trend does Does that tell you that there's 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.680 more gaping holes than are they closer to that overall record? 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.440 Or is it more so that are you ready to 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.360 panic just given how well how poorly things have gone 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:13.920 over these last couple weeks. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:19.440 Yeah, I'm strangely calm even through this losing streak because 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.400 I know, like Isaac alluded to earlier, this team isn't 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.000 this bad, and the losing streak will end, and there's 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.160 ebbs and flows to seasons. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:29.320 I mean, that's just how it is. 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:33.040 Like Boston just went fifteen straight and they were left 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.880 for dead. Doesn't make them buyers at the deadline all 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:39.920 of a sudden, like these things happen, it's just the 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.880 timing of it is very poor, and that's that's the issue. 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.680 I mean, this team was at nine to ten games 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.720 under five hundred earlier in the year. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.040 They found the way to bounce back. They were left 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:51.480 for dead. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.240 I mean, I for all intents and purposes, had no 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.119 inclination that this was going to be a contending team 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.240 in early May, in mid May even, and then they 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.720 went on that really good run in the month of 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.960 June and we started all believing again. And now there's 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.480 a lot of people with negativity, and it's understandable because 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:12.920 they're losing games. 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.400 I mean, this is three sweeps in a row, but 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:16.920 I think it. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.360 You know, the phrase put up or shut up is 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.760 thrown out there all the time, and you know, must 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.640 win baseball is thrown out there all the time. But 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.520 I would be hard pressed to find another example of 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.440 a team that needs to win now, otherwise they. 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.640 Will start selling at the deadline. 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.160 I mean, they're gonna fall out of contention if this 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:39.880 losing streak continues. 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:41.559 You have three series left. 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:46.000 The Padres, who aren't a good team, the Phillies, obviously 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:50.360 division rivals, Contenders and then the Mets in New York. 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.480 So you gotta get back on track. 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.600 You have to win at least two of these series, 0:08:55.040 --> 0:09:00.480 in my opinion, And you know what, we know now 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.680 ten days until the deadline. It's kind of like, well, 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.080 is this team going to buy? I don't know, because 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.440 they need help. That's most obvious to me is that 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.800 this team is running on fumes and they need outside 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.600 help in the worst way if they want to contend 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:15.000 this year. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.600 Yeah, you touched on something that I think is very true. 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:23.000 How there are essentially two separate playoff races for a 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.000 team like the Marlins. There's the one that goes between 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.320 now and the deadline, because they got to win a 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:31.520 certain number of games in order to actually justify giving 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.160 up future talents and minor leaguers to make improvements so 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.319 be a buyer. They actually have to reach that deadline 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.880 within not just striking distance, but feel like they have 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:45.640 a reasonable chance of getting in. And then that's then 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:49.600 that actual real postseason race begins, because assuming that they 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.480 are in a position in a best case scenario to 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.600 actually make outside acquisitions and justify that, then they actually 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.600 have to put it together and win those games. But 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.040 they have to that first race comes first, and that's 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.080 there is really those different segments where they're now in 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:09.120 this position, like Hope. Usually we thought, potentially the Marlins 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.640 were going to be in a very favorable position where 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.880 it's a lot more simple than that, because when you're 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.120 ten games over five hundred or even seven over going 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.760 to the break, like you just hold water right there 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.920 and like the decisions already made at that point. But 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:25.160 now that they're in they're in purgatory. They really are 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:26.920 where they're in a position where they have to play 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.719 a little bit better moving forward than they have so far, 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.199 otherwise they're not going to make it. And all of 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.680 a sudden, it's getting harder and harder to see that 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.720 scenario where their current pieces are going to elevate their 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:40.600 performance moving forward based on what they've currently done. Yeah, 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:42.680 I've talked about this quite a bit in Nate, so 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.720 I'll and it to somebody else on this topic of 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.240 there have been some games played today in the Marlins organization, 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.559 just not the major league level, and that includes Braxic 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.120 and Garrett making a star for TRIPA A Jacksonville. There's 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.360 some speculation that finally he would get an opportunity to 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.640 redeem himself after being like a superstar down in the 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.160 internet in the league in the past couple of months. The 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.960 Marlins didn't bite on that. He made his scheduled serve 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.800 for Jacksonville today. He was awful. This is probably his 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.199 very worst outing at the Triple A level all year long. 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.120 Lot seven runs, didn't get out of the third ending. 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.800 Just went your take on the fact that the Marlins 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.960 haven't gone to him at any point during these past 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.080 couple of months where rotation depth had been such a 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.360 big question mark, and right now in particular with Max 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.959 Meyer going down, with Jansen Junk really struggling, with Tyler 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.080 Philips being really uneven. Just your thoughts on the fact 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.160 that they didn't think that they clearly don't think that 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:36.720 Braxton is part of the solution here. 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.360 Yeah, I'm not really too surprised, especially what we saw 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.160 in the spring. I feel like Bratson had a pretty 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.400 good spring is his fastball from what we were hearing 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.400 and what we saw in his limited action that he 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.480 was getting up there I think around ninety five with 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.080 that year, which he really hasn't been known for in 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.079 the past, and the fact that they didn't go with 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:52.960 him on the open DA roster and then let him 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.040 star on Triple A and then he finally got his 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:56.920 chance and we all know what happened in Minnesota and 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.319 the following day Man's the Braves had no command. So 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.120 I think it was in a it's something ex straordinary 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.559 for Bratston, which is what he was doing. But I 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.160 think this is almost the nail on the coffin for 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.199 this guy. Seven are in runs over what two and 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.000 two thirds whatever it was today. It's unfortunate, especially with 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:11.600 what the Marlins are gonna be forced to do with 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:15.480 match going down. Our guy Colin comments a gusto start 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:19.559 with a Fulton pityback, and I I really don't know 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.520 what to say much about that, because I mean, the 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.400 way this thing's going right now, if you go to that, 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:25.680 it's it's not going to look up from there either. 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.360 So it is tough that they've been They've been put 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.040 in the situation like guys that've said, I mean, injury 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.480 has just been killing these guys recently, and it's a shame. 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.400 And I just one more thing on the streak. When 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:36.640 your top three hitters that have been carrying this lineup 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.400 or at least two of them for most of the year, Auto, 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.520 Lopez and Ats and then Stours. I mean in that order, 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.880 Auto's got four to eleven, ATS has got three eighty seven, 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.360 and Stars is a three forty six ops over this 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.160 ten game or nine game straps. So if if your 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.280 guys are gonna be if your guys are gonna play 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.400 like that when you eat the most and you have 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.160 a lot of i mean mostly platoon guys in this 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:56.679 line up, if we're calling it what it really is, 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:58.520 you're not gonna win a lot of ball games. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:12:59.080 And it's a shame. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.280 But I mean the twe like we all know, they 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.280 came out of the break cold, and then after they 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:06.600 acquired David Robertson throwing wild pitches against Washington, they went 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.120 cold again in Audust September. So a lot of time 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:09.920 left in the season. 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:11.800 But some us when bal games did some teams they 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:12.360 should be beating. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:18.120 Yeah, it's definitely a multifaceted problem here With regarding the Braxton, 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.680 I did ask about this because it was peculiar that 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.240 one he hadn't been given a chance already, and two 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.360 like it was pretty much well thought that hey, he'd 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:29.200 be starting tomorrow. But what I understand. They do like 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.720 Ryan Gusto a lot more than they'd like Braxton Garrett. 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.000 They like Bradley Blaylock a lot more than they'd like 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.280 Braxton Garrett. I think Brandon White is also someone that 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.480 you could keep an eye on as someone who may 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.080 see sometime. And I know what's unfortunate. There are few 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:43.640 guys in. 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.480 The history of the Marls organizations are better humans in Braxton. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:48.640 But they're just fear. 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:50.800 They're just they don't think that he has a command, 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:52.440 that he did what he showed in those two Major 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.760 League starts earlier in the year. They fear that it 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.080 was gonna happen again, and they're trying to keep his 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.240 value high in case he wanted to use him as 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.040 a trade ship. But like Eli was saying in the chat, 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.040 you're not going to have him gained much value by 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.280 dominating Triple A. As old as he is, so I 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.680 believe he's exactly my age at twenty eight years old. 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.679 So I'm not sure, like you said, nail in the 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.680 coffin for Broxs, Unfortunately, you might see some other guys. 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:19.360 I believe Bradley, but like is and you get an 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.680 opportunity at some point this year and then that's not 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:22.840 gonna excite many guys. 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.280 But I think we started looking. 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.000 I think you got to start looking at alternative names, 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.320 alternative names, because that's what I was hearing, that those 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.040 they're gonna get shot chances before Brax. 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.840 Yeah, I mean, at least they have conviction in it, clearly, 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.400 because there have been several opportunities now over these past 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.680 couple of months where it seems so obvious to give 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.640 him a shot, to see what you had, and you 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.400 kind of, you know, you said what I had already 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.560 been thinking. It's just that there's there's no trade value 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.120 to Braxi if he's only pitching at the Triple A level, 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.000 if he's only pitched essentially hadn't done anything in the 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.760 major since more than two calendar years ago in twenty 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.840 twenty four. Like the other teams, not going to give 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.640 up anything. He's not an asset and the only way 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:05.760 is to figure out what you have at the big 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.480 league leuble. But yeah, I mean, it's at least they 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.760 have conviction in it, even though I disagree, even though 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.840 you feel bad for the player himself that he has 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.160 worked his way back and that like the results prior 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:20.120 to today were just spoke volumes about they said all 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.360 they could possibly say about getting the opportunity, and as 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:24.920 you mentioned some of the other names that are down there, 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:26.840 we haven't seen Bradley Blaylock yet. It's been a very 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.680 up and down season for him in Jacksonville, with overall 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.720 numbers kind of pale in comparison to BRACS. But on 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.960 his best days there is more swing and miss there. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.640 And it's a guy that is several years younger than 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:42.800 brax Is as well. It's just uh, yeah, it's just yeah. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.840 The overall does it feels light down there? Doesn't feel 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.480 like there's not an obvious night in training armor down there, 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.120 especially with Thomas White being hurt, with Carson Milburant not 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.400 translating to the triple A level the way that they 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:58.080 may have envisioned a month ago. So he's not really 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:03.320 a realistic reinforcement at this point. But yet somewhat, they 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.080 still have not gone outside the organization yet in order 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.720 to address that, even though they have that need right now. 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.960 So I want to talk more about the rotation, of course, 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.720 and a lot more other reallyated topics to get to 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.800 on the other side of the break. 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That's a 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.400 guy that has relatively high upside out of the pen. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.560 I wanted to briefly just we touched on it about 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.480 the quite a bit of injuries that are impacting this team. 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.080 I'd say now more than at any other point of 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.200 the season is one. His injuries have kind of crescendoed 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.679 in a way that actually makes a pretty significant difference 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.119 in terms of who the Marlins have available. With Anthony 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.560 Bender on the il and out for a little while, 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.760 William Kempnor not really any timeline to return. John King 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:02.240 is mostly relatively close to coming back that would help 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.720 out the bullpen, of course, and Owen Casey as well 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.080 should be relatively close to coming back from his calf injury. 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.240 But yeah, then the others are still a little while 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.560 away coming back. So that's kind of the team that 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.520 you're looking at in terms of who's healthy, who's available. 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.879 There are some healthy options down in Triple As to 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.080 consider calling up. I think on a recent stream Kevin 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.560 and I went over it was on filter that Kevin 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:27.480 and I talked about some of the healthy position players 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:29.920 they have down there. Connor Norby has had a couple 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.800 of big games recently with Jacksonville. He's hitting well, he 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.840 has defensive versatility, even though he's not particularly good at 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.919 any of those positions. Yeah, he is, I don't, I 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:44.680 guess he's positionless, but he's open minded about playing different spots. That's, 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.400 you know, one direction that could go to help out 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:47.840 the offense. Because we spent a lot of time talking 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.320 about really the pitching on this show so far. But yeah, 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.879 when it comes to Jacksonville, it's it's kind of slim 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.600 pickings in terms of guys that you think could meaningfully 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.480 make this team better right now. Yeah, it's a tough 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.040 spot that they are in at the current moment. When 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:04.879 it comes to that, you just mentioned Brandon White. I 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:06.840 guess he's a guy that I'm kind of curious about it. 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:08.720