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Speaker 1: School of Humans. Hello everyone, Welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 1: Cadaver Gals. It is yes that podcast where we talk

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Speaker 1: about death, dying in weird ways that people have died,

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Speaker 1: and try to laugh about it a little bit, joke around,

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Speaker 1: a little bit final levity, if you will. I'm Mika,

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Speaker 1: along with your wonderful hosts Gabby and Taylor say hello,

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Speaker 1: my little dumplings. Hello. Hey. I love hosting because I

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Speaker 1: get to call you guys all the pet names that

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Speaker 1: I think of whenever I see you, but do not

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Speaker 1: say because I am not the alpha in the relationship.

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Speaker 1: Who's the alpha? Gabby? You think Gaby because she's the tallest. Oh,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I knew this height would come in use

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Speaker 1: one day exactly. On today's episode, we're going to be

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Speaker 1: talking about a really sad, tragic death involving auto robotic asphyxiation,

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Speaker 1: and also where you shouldn't hide people's body parts. That's

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Speaker 1: good to know. Sure, you know we like sharing what

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Speaker 1: not to do. Trigger warnings involved murder, dismemberment, the movement

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Speaker 1: of bodies, sex, autootic asphyxiation, suffocation. Anyone's I'm missing I

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Speaker 1: like how you said movement of body, but like in

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Speaker 1: thin sex. But like remember we talked that's is moving

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Speaker 1: around around together. No, but this time it's moving moving

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Speaker 1: deceased bodies. Yeah, which is not sex. Let's clarify that

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Speaker 1: right now. Okay, yeah, that would be another trigger warning.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely well, if you are okay with all of these things,

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Speaker 1: welcome to get avergals. Que Alligator musical ban ban ban

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Speaker 1: bam bam bam, so so beautiful. I want everyone to

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Speaker 1: know that whenever I record que Alligator music, we all

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Speaker 1: go into our own versions of it. So and they're

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Speaker 1: all different, and they're all different. It's truly wonderful. I

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Speaker 1: am so incredibly excited, Gabby to hear about this tragic incident. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna start with one tragic incident and then

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Speaker 1: talk about some other ones, because you know, we're just

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Speaker 1: getting a schmorges Borg of death with this one. Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about auto erotic asphyxiation. And so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go to Germany in February of twenty eighteen, and there

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Speaker 1: was a man who was found dead. Ah. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: it was ruled a masturbation accident. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: the official term that they used in the autopsy. Basically

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Speaker 1: was wearing a diving suit. But beneath all of these clothes,

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Speaker 1: he was also covered in processed cheese slices. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: like the bright yellow ones. Yeah, I mussue. The thing is,

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Speaker 1: like I was through my research, I was not able

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Speaker 1: Germany is is. That was the type of cheese. Did

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Speaker 1: they even processed cheese as much as we do in America?

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Speaker 1: I don't think they do. That's the thing. I mean.

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Speaker 1: I often feel like I want to hate on America

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Speaker 1: more than other countries, but I also realized that other

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Speaker 1: like I bet in Germany they do that. Okay, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably yeah, But the US did invent the grilled cheese,

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Speaker 1: like how you said they found it, as if it

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Speaker 1: with the death. Yes, So the way that this guy

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Speaker 1: what happened to him with cheese. Someone slap cheese on

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Speaker 1: If he has a scuba suit over that. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: and suffocating. Because here's the problem with autoerotic asphyxiation. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I always remember as a kid, you know, you'd like

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Speaker 1: autoerotic asphyxiation deaths. That's kind of a lot though. Still yeah,

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Speaker 1: like a variety of different axphyxiation methods in these auto

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Speaker 1: So that guy covered in cheese, he was also overdressing

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Speaker 1: much pressure on your body. That makes sense. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: think maybe it's just a bad translation, but he said that,

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Speaker 1: you know, female death cases from auto rotic asphyxiation are

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, be careful, but sophistication and your sexual maneuver.

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Speaker 1: it's a translation error. Yeah, women do not cover themselves

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Speaker 1: I am all women. Are there? Any other are there?

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Speaker 1: Like any big deaths, like famous deaths involving this wave dying? Oh, Nika,

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Speaker 1: that's so interesting that you should ask that, because there

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Speaker 1: if we sometimes plan out what we're about to say,

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Speaker 1: it's as if we have two Google meetings per week

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Speaker 1: to talk about what we're going to talk about. Listeners, spoilers,

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Speaker 1: we have notes, we take them anyway, Famous person, Nika,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy that you asked. There's been a couple of

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Speaker 1: I think you just had a stroke. I'm just maybe

421
00:24:01,605 --> 00:24:04,925
Speaker 1: I'm just like too excited to learn about this. Maybe. Yeah,

422
00:24:04,965 --> 00:24:09,285
Speaker 1: I mean this too. It needs to be practiced safely.

423
00:24:09,325 --> 00:24:11,245
Speaker 1: It needs to be talked about. It needs to Okay,

424
00:24:11,245 --> 00:24:13,125
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say again, it needs to be talked about

425
00:24:13,205 --> 00:24:15,765
Speaker 1: because then you have people who don't talk about it,

426
00:24:15,765 --> 00:24:18,005
Speaker 1: and then little boys find out about it and then

427
00:24:18,125 --> 00:24:20,685
Speaker 1: end up killing themselves masturbating in their bedroom because they

428
00:24:20,685 --> 00:24:24,045
Speaker 1: are too ashamed to talk about what they enjoy. That's sad.

429
00:24:24,525 --> 00:24:27,525
Speaker 1: I do think. I mean, education is important in general,

430
00:24:27,565 --> 00:24:31,325
Speaker 1: but like sex education as well, Like it's all about education,

431
00:24:31,405 --> 00:24:34,685
Speaker 1: just knowing exactly what it is that you're doing. Biden,

432
00:24:34,845 --> 00:24:37,565
Speaker 1: what are you doing to talk about choking in America?

433
00:24:37,645 --> 00:24:42,085
Speaker 1: That's the real question. Fuck the stimulus plan, bro, let's

434
00:24:42,165 --> 00:24:46,445
Speaker 1: talk about sex and schools. I don't priority I need

435
00:24:46,445 --> 00:24:53,005
Speaker 1: my stimmy, but okay, so with stimmy, Okay, So, yes,

436
00:24:53,365 --> 00:24:57,565
Speaker 1: sex is more than just bodies moving around. It's also

437
00:24:57,725 --> 00:25:01,565
Speaker 1: minds moving around. It is so there's a lot of

438
00:25:01,645 --> 00:25:05,845
Speaker 1: psychological effects. And now listen, listen. These range from common

439
00:25:06,165 --> 00:25:09,685
Speaker 1: like oh, it's dangerous, so it feels kind of risky,

440
00:25:09,725 --> 00:25:12,765
Speaker 1: and some people find that hot to um not as common,

441
00:25:13,205 --> 00:25:16,605
Speaker 1: Like some people get turned on by masks or by

442
00:25:16,685 --> 00:25:22,085
Speaker 1: the idea of being restricted during sex by maks. Masks. Yeah,

443
00:25:22,325 --> 00:25:26,645
Speaker 1: that's like like that in ninety five masks or like no,

444
00:25:26,725 --> 00:25:29,085
Speaker 1: but I will say this about in ninety five masks

445
00:25:29,205 --> 00:25:31,605
Speaker 1: slash just the masks that we're using right now because

446
00:25:31,605 --> 00:25:34,405
Speaker 1: of COVID. It's kind of hot to not see someone's face.

447
00:25:34,445 --> 00:25:36,765
Speaker 1: It's kind of mysterious. It's kind of like giving me

448
00:25:36,805 --> 00:25:40,685
Speaker 1: protect your vibes. And I have personally caught myself staring

449
00:25:40,725 --> 00:25:44,925
Speaker 1: too hard at people with their masks. So it's not

450
00:25:44,965 --> 00:25:47,325
Speaker 1: just because you're trying to like because like I like

451
00:25:47,405 --> 00:25:50,125
Speaker 1: to just like invent or imagine, like what the rest

452
00:25:50,205 --> 00:25:51,725
Speaker 1: of their face looks like. If you don't you know

453
00:25:51,765 --> 00:25:53,165
Speaker 1: what I mean, If you're just like walking around and

454
00:25:53,165 --> 00:25:54,885
Speaker 1: there's all these just like eyes that you see, I

455
00:25:54,885 --> 00:25:57,725
Speaker 1: don't want to know. It's like, what's the rest of

456
00:25:57,725 --> 00:26:00,285
Speaker 1: your face look like? Nobody knows. We can just make

457
00:26:00,325 --> 00:26:03,205
Speaker 1: it up. I mean, I think going outside during COVID,

458
00:26:03,445 --> 00:26:05,165
Speaker 1: you know, we're trying not to go outside as much

459
00:26:05,165 --> 00:26:07,885
Speaker 1: and do things, but I mostly can't do it because, yeah,

460
00:26:07,885 --> 00:26:10,165
Speaker 1: I just immediately, Jiz, when I see people in masks,

461
00:26:10,605 --> 00:26:16,525
Speaker 1: I can't do it. It's so hard. It's so hard

462
00:26:16,605 --> 00:26:18,925
Speaker 1: for me to go outside and see all these masks.

463
00:26:19,205 --> 00:26:24,685
Speaker 1: You're literally so gross. Anyway, I will talk. There are yeah,

464
00:26:24,685 --> 00:26:28,165
Speaker 1: So you know, a variety of reasons why people enjoy this.

465
00:26:28,605 --> 00:26:32,605
Speaker 1: The most common that specifically women seem to talk about.

466
00:26:32,645 --> 00:26:35,085
Speaker 1: And this is just based on interviews, and there has

467
00:26:35,085 --> 00:26:39,125
Speaker 1: been a lot of research done on choking, consent to

468
00:26:39,205 --> 00:26:42,725
Speaker 1: BDSM all that sort of stuff, And what they'd say

469
00:26:42,925 --> 00:26:45,965
Speaker 1: is that the feeling of intimacy and letting go, like

470
00:26:46,005 --> 00:26:49,645
Speaker 1: you're letting your partner dictate when you breathe while being

471
00:26:49,685 --> 00:26:54,485
Speaker 1: in this like hazy endorphin induced state can be very

472
00:26:54,525 --> 00:26:57,525
Speaker 1: powerful and require a lot of trust between two people

473
00:26:57,925 --> 00:27:01,285
Speaker 1: and can be really vulnerable, and that obviously is attractive

474
00:27:01,285 --> 00:27:04,605
Speaker 1: to some people. It can be exhilarating and lead to

475
00:27:04,965 --> 00:27:07,405
Speaker 1: feeling like not in control of your body, which some

476
00:27:07,445 --> 00:27:12,045
Speaker 1: people really enjoy. I have control issues, so I understand why,

477
00:27:12,125 --> 00:27:16,365
Speaker 1: like people must enjoy feeling like you don't have to

478
00:27:16,365 --> 00:27:19,885
Speaker 1: be in control in that moment with someone that you trust.

479
00:27:20,485 --> 00:27:23,285
Speaker 1: So yeah, Also, some people don't even want to be choked.

480
00:27:23,325 --> 00:27:25,805
Speaker 1: They just like the idea of being choked. So some

481
00:27:25,845 --> 00:27:29,005
Speaker 1: people it's even like if a hand is on the neck,

482
00:27:29,085 --> 00:27:31,845
Speaker 1: that's already exhilarating to them because it's just the idea

483
00:27:31,965 --> 00:27:36,005
Speaker 1: of being grabbed dominated used, like all of that sort

484
00:27:36,005 --> 00:27:37,925
Speaker 1: of stuff. Like it's kinky to them. They don't even

485
00:27:37,965 --> 00:27:42,805
Speaker 1: need to do the actual like physiological response, variety of reasons.

486
00:27:43,645 --> 00:27:47,805
Speaker 1: But it needs to be done safely as always, and

487
00:27:48,085 --> 00:27:50,365
Speaker 1: there's really no it has to be done. You have

488
00:27:50,445 --> 00:27:54,125
Speaker 1: to choke people, you have to do it. Yeah, this

489
00:27:54,205 --> 00:27:58,045
Speaker 1: is the future, gen z want, Yeah, this is gen Z. Well.

490
00:27:58,085 --> 00:28:02,445
Speaker 1: I also read that it's like it. I mean, there

491
00:28:02,605 --> 00:28:04,765
Speaker 1: was a Vice article because it's like, of course it's

492
00:28:04,885 --> 00:28:07,405
Speaker 1: Vice being you know, vice and saying something that's just

493
00:28:07,525 --> 00:28:12,925
Speaker 1: like controversial vicey. We're saying like even within the BDSM community,

494
00:28:12,965 --> 00:28:15,365
Speaker 1: there is like, you know, controversy over or whether or

495
00:28:15,405 --> 00:28:17,565
Speaker 1: not you should choke people. But there was this one

496
00:28:17,605 --> 00:28:20,085
Speaker 1: guy who was quoted who was talking about like how

497
00:28:20,445 --> 00:28:23,205
Speaker 1: it can also help you play out your childhood trauma

498
00:28:23,325 --> 00:28:25,805
Speaker 1: and you can be healed from it. And no, I

499
00:28:25,845 --> 00:28:28,405
Speaker 1: don't know more about that, but I think that's interesting.

500
00:28:29,245 --> 00:28:34,085
Speaker 1: I think that kink can be a really powerful way

501
00:28:34,165 --> 00:28:38,245
Speaker 1: to deal with trauma, but it is. It takes a

502
00:28:38,245 --> 00:28:40,005
Speaker 1: lot of work and a lot of research, and it's

503
00:28:40,045 --> 00:28:42,805
Speaker 1: not for everyone. That's all I'm gonna say about that.

504
00:28:42,805 --> 00:28:45,685
Speaker 1: That's why I only do the missionary position because I'm

505
00:28:45,725 --> 00:28:48,245
Speaker 1: playing out my trauma from being a turtle on its

506
00:28:48,245 --> 00:28:51,605
Speaker 1: back when I was a kid. As if you didn't

507
00:28:51,645 --> 00:28:57,645
Speaker 1: just get a uti anyway, Well, never mind, yeah, never

508
00:28:57,725 --> 00:29:02,485
Speaker 1: mind that quiet quiet, I'm the alpha in this episode. Moohaa.

509
00:29:03,565 --> 00:29:08,685
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's it. There's really no fool proof, safe

510
00:29:08,685 --> 00:29:13,925
Speaker 1: way to do it. I don't recommend doing it alone.

511
00:29:13,965 --> 00:29:17,725
Speaker 1: That just seems honestly super dangerous. But just always make

512
00:29:17,765 --> 00:29:23,605
Speaker 1: sure that you're respecting boundaries and consent and also know

513
00:29:23,645 --> 00:29:25,805
Speaker 1: how to do this properly if you're going to engage it.

514
00:29:25,965 --> 00:29:29,405
Speaker 1: Don't just do it willy nilly. Don't don't do that.

515
00:29:29,485 --> 00:29:33,045
Speaker 1: Don't be like, do you want to be a pinterest

516
00:29:33,125 --> 00:29:36,165
Speaker 1: diy bitch? No, you want to be a professional bitch.

517
00:29:36,485 --> 00:29:41,005
Speaker 1: Go please go go get classes. Okay, up next XS

518
00:29:41,085 --> 00:29:44,845
Speaker 1: next Taylor, who was phone cut in pieces tell us

519
00:29:45,565 --> 00:29:49,165
Speaker 1: all right, so we're opening on an early spring day

520
00:29:49,445 --> 00:29:53,805
Speaker 1: in Baltimore in nineteen thirty nine. This was a time,

521
00:29:53,965 --> 00:29:57,045
Speaker 1: as you don't recall because none of us were alive,

522
00:29:57,485 --> 00:29:59,925
Speaker 1: But there was a time where people would just like

523
00:30:00,045 --> 00:30:02,125
Speaker 1: let their kids like run out in the middle of

524
00:30:02,165 --> 00:30:04,165
Speaker 1: the streets and go like run around through town like

525
00:30:04,165 --> 00:30:06,485
Speaker 1: they did whatever. You know, they just played outside because

526
00:30:06,485 --> 00:30:09,285
Speaker 1: they wanted to, because they didn't have anything fun like

527
00:30:09,685 --> 00:30:11,805
Speaker 1: what a kids bop it. They didn't have a bopp it.

528
00:30:12,045 --> 00:30:15,365
Speaker 1: They didn't have a boppet. They they literally like the wheel.

529
00:30:15,645 --> 00:30:18,085
Speaker 1: The wheel was a thing at that point, so they

530
00:30:18,085 --> 00:30:20,845
Speaker 1: had they had balls too. They just played with their

531
00:30:20,885 --> 00:30:23,525
Speaker 1: wheels and their balls. I don't know, are we talking

532
00:30:23,525 --> 00:30:29,565
Speaker 1: about ancient Mesopotamia or are we talking about they had

533
00:30:29,565 --> 00:30:34,125
Speaker 1: wheels to the ship. I'm just referring to earlier when

534
00:30:34,165 --> 00:30:40,245
Speaker 1: the wheel was invented anyway, in nineteen thirty nine. Yeah,

535
00:30:40,325 --> 00:30:43,525
Speaker 1: I said the wheel was invented by now obviously, Okay,

536
00:30:44,125 --> 00:30:48,525
Speaker 1: so anyway, kids, oh, slice bread, grilled cheese. Anyway, continue

537
00:30:48,525 --> 00:30:51,245
Speaker 1: That's where I was going with that, and you didn't

538
00:30:51,245 --> 00:30:56,405
Speaker 1: care anyway. Um, Nicholas Krepner was an eight year old

539
00:30:56,445 --> 00:30:59,245
Speaker 1: boy who was playing ball, like out in the front,

540
00:30:59,285 --> 00:31:01,365
Speaker 1: you know, of his house. Was he playing ball or

541
00:31:01,485 --> 00:31:04,925
Speaker 1: was he playing wheel? He was playing with a ball. Um,

542
00:31:05,005 --> 00:31:07,445
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of fall, so don't ask. So

543
00:31:07,525 --> 00:31:10,805
Speaker 1: as it happens, little Nicholas let the ball get away

544
00:31:10,845 --> 00:31:14,325
Speaker 1: from him and found its way into a storm. Dream

545
00:31:14,765 --> 00:31:17,365
Speaker 1: Hey went to go get the ball, and all of

546
00:31:17,405 --> 00:31:20,685
Speaker 1: a sudden, people nearby hear him screaming it's a hand,

547
00:31:20,805 --> 00:31:24,405
Speaker 1: it's a hand. Oh no, yeah, So people are like,

548
00:31:24,525 --> 00:31:28,685
Speaker 1: um what So the grocer at the corner, like on

549
00:31:28,725 --> 00:31:31,525
Speaker 1: the corner immediately calls the police. He's like, that's that

550
00:31:31,605 --> 00:31:34,205
Speaker 1: can't be good, right, this is so you're like painting

551
00:31:34,245 --> 00:31:37,125
Speaker 1: such a historical picture like this little boy's like, hey,

552
00:31:37,125 --> 00:31:40,045
Speaker 1: it's a hand, mother. And then like the grocer is like,

553
00:31:40,205 --> 00:31:42,965
Speaker 1: I mean, let me ring nine one one. And they

554
00:31:43,005 --> 00:31:45,605
Speaker 1: go to like their little payphones and they ring nine

555
00:31:45,685 --> 00:31:48,285
Speaker 1: one one like it would have been on TikTok right

556
00:31:48,285 --> 00:31:51,125
Speaker 1: now at that point, like yeah, yeah, I don't know

557
00:31:51,205 --> 00:31:53,125
Speaker 1: did they have payphones or did they just have like

558
00:31:53,245 --> 00:31:56,405
Speaker 1: one cup that was a string to the police station.

559
00:31:56,725 --> 00:32:01,685
Speaker 1: I think that well it was probably a rotary. Oh like, Nikka,

560
00:32:01,725 --> 00:32:03,445
Speaker 1: do you even know you know, you know what a rotary?

561
00:32:03,565 --> 00:32:06,405
Speaker 1: I know what a rotary is. Yeah, I've ever used whenever,

562
00:32:06,565 --> 00:32:10,245
Speaker 1: but I know what it is. Anyway, they found a hand,

563
00:32:11,965 --> 00:32:14,325
Speaker 1: so this little so they called the police. Um, so

564
00:32:14,365 --> 00:32:16,565
Speaker 1: what happened was the little boy when he was going

565
00:32:16,605 --> 00:32:19,325
Speaker 1: to get his ball, he saw a jumbled up piece

566
00:32:19,325 --> 00:32:22,565
Speaker 1: of newspaper and it was specifically had the comics. He's like,

567
00:32:22,605 --> 00:32:25,125
Speaker 1: I like the comics. But he picked it up and

568
00:32:25,325 --> 00:32:28,605
Speaker 1: a hand flops out, and then he sees another one

569
00:32:29,325 --> 00:32:33,085
Speaker 1: and then a leg flops out of the same newspaper.

570
00:32:33,725 --> 00:32:36,725
Speaker 1: There were like two different pots, like basically two different

571
00:32:37,205 --> 00:32:39,645
Speaker 1: pieces of newspaper that were like close to each other,

572
00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:44,605
Speaker 1: and there were body parts in there. Now, the newspaper

573
00:32:45,085 --> 00:32:48,365
Speaker 1: was from the previous week, so it was it could

574
00:32:48,445 --> 00:32:52,965
Speaker 1: it was pretty a pretty recent situation. So the police

575
00:32:53,005 --> 00:32:56,405
Speaker 1: get there and everybody goes to the sewer and they're

576
00:32:56,445 --> 00:32:58,525
Speaker 1: looking for more body parts because they're like, oh, we

577
00:32:58,645 --> 00:33:03,005
Speaker 1: only have parts of a person. So it only took

578
00:33:03,045 --> 00:33:05,165
Speaker 1: like an hour or something. It didn't take very long,

579
00:33:05,245 --> 00:33:09,885
Speaker 1: but that's when they found a heart, lungs and other

580
00:33:10,165 --> 00:33:14,645
Speaker 1: yummy organs also wrapped in a newspaper. Also in the funnies.

581
00:33:14,885 --> 00:33:16,805
Speaker 1: I think we used up the funnies on the hand

582
00:33:16,845 --> 00:33:19,125
Speaker 1: in the leg, but it was the same newspaper. It

583
00:33:19,205 --> 00:33:22,005
Speaker 1: was the same week, so a little bit later a

584
00:33:22,005 --> 00:33:25,205
Speaker 1: few blocks away. Basically, so like the whole town knew

585
00:33:25,245 --> 00:33:27,565
Speaker 1: about it. At this point, they're like, there are all

586
00:33:27,645 --> 00:33:29,845
Speaker 1: these body parts that are popping up around town and

587
00:33:29,925 --> 00:33:33,565
Speaker 1: the sewers, so like be on alert for that the

588
00:33:33,605 --> 00:33:36,245
Speaker 1: town of Baltimore. I mean, it was like, you know,

589
00:33:36,285 --> 00:33:39,205
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. I guess this. Anyway, a little bit later,

590
00:33:39,285 --> 00:33:42,325
Speaker 1: a few a few blocks away, the right foot and

591
00:33:42,405 --> 00:33:45,085
Speaker 1: the lower leg were found. There were also some clothes

592
00:33:45,125 --> 00:33:48,445
Speaker 1: found and those were taken into evidence, but then like

593
00:33:48,525 --> 00:33:53,445
Speaker 1: nothing else was found that day. The next day there

594
00:33:53,645 --> 00:33:56,565
Speaker 1: was three quarters of a torso found in a dumpster

595
00:33:57,165 --> 00:34:00,885
Speaker 1: near the hospital. So at this point they find like

596
00:34:01,565 --> 00:34:05,445
Speaker 1: various body parts a woman's torso or a man's tords.

597
00:34:05,525 --> 00:34:08,525
Speaker 1: So this point, yes, at this point we're like, okay,

598
00:34:08,565 --> 00:34:15,445
Speaker 1: this is okay, yes, yes, how gender works now in

599
00:34:15,485 --> 00:34:19,445
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one exactly, yes, So no, so from that

600
00:34:19,525 --> 00:34:21,365
Speaker 1: they were like, okay, we can tell now that this

601
00:34:21,445 --> 00:34:25,405
Speaker 1: is a woman. So this is actually pretty key at

602
00:34:25,445 --> 00:34:28,445
Speaker 1: this at this point because like DNA testing isn't a

603
00:34:28,485 --> 00:34:32,125
Speaker 1: thing yet, and at this time, in order to identify

604
00:34:32,645 --> 00:34:37,685
Speaker 1: a body, they would use either dental analysis, physical attributes,

605
00:34:38,605 --> 00:34:42,405
Speaker 1: or in some cases when they had the fingerprints, they

606
00:34:42,445 --> 00:34:46,325
Speaker 1: would use fingerprinting. So at this point they're like, they

607
00:34:46,365 --> 00:34:48,445
Speaker 1: really don't have a way to identify who this is.

608
00:34:48,485 --> 00:34:51,005
Speaker 1: There's no necessarily, there's not necessarily like a miss and

609
00:34:51,165 --> 00:34:54,525
Speaker 1: missing person at this point. So they were like, we're

610
00:34:54,525 --> 00:34:57,045
Speaker 1: gonna need to find the head. This is pretty important

611
00:34:57,085 --> 00:34:59,485
Speaker 1: in order to figure out who this is. We're gonna

612
00:34:59,605 --> 00:35:05,245
Speaker 1: need the head. Boy, we're gonna need some more body parts. Okay,

613
00:35:05,485 --> 00:35:09,925
Speaker 1: so they just do a titty analysis, honestly, So no,

614
00:35:10,085 --> 00:35:13,805
Speaker 1: they did not do a titty analysis, Gabby, Okay. At

615
00:35:13,845 --> 00:35:16,165
Speaker 1: that point, who knows, like they were having to try

616
00:35:16,165 --> 00:35:18,565
Speaker 1: and figured out some other some way, so maybe they

617
00:35:18,565 --> 00:35:21,325
Speaker 1: were who knows. A few days pass and then the

618
00:35:21,365 --> 00:35:26,045
Speaker 1: police get a call from an Aurelio Marco Tarquinio and

619
00:35:26,165 --> 00:35:32,645
Speaker 1: he had reported Evelyn Rice as missing. So obviously they're like, okay,

620
00:35:32,645 --> 00:35:34,485
Speaker 1: this is kind of sketchy. We need to look into this.

621
00:35:35,405 --> 00:35:37,685
Speaker 1: And so, you know, this was the talk of the town.

622
00:35:37,965 --> 00:35:40,805
Speaker 1: This was everybody was talking about it. So one day

623
00:35:40,885 --> 00:35:44,325
Speaker 1: Tarquinio and his neighbor are talking about it. They're like

624
00:35:44,325 --> 00:35:46,805
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, like what's going on? Did you hear

625
00:35:46,845 --> 00:35:50,885
Speaker 1: about the body? That whole thing and it's crazy. I'm

626
00:35:50,885 --> 00:35:54,765
Speaker 1: sure they said it was crazy town things like that. Yep. Anyway,

627
00:35:54,805 --> 00:35:57,205
Speaker 1: so the neighbor says something along the lines of like,

628
00:35:57,805 --> 00:36:00,405
Speaker 1: you know, they're finding body parts every day, it's only

629
00:36:00,445 --> 00:36:03,725
Speaker 1: a matter of time before the head is found, to

630
00:36:03,885 --> 00:36:08,645
Speaker 1: which Tarquinios says, Oh, they'll never find the head. That's

631
00:36:08,805 --> 00:36:12,405
Speaker 1: us as hell. That is so suspicious, like too, like

632
00:36:12,525 --> 00:36:15,045
Speaker 1: why would you why would you say that? At that point,

633
00:36:15,165 --> 00:36:19,005
Speaker 1: like the neighbor looks at him and goes, why, so,

634
00:36:19,045 --> 00:36:21,885
Speaker 1: what do you do? You know, the neighbors like hmmm,

635
00:36:22,245 --> 00:36:25,445
Speaker 1: And but the police were already like suspicious because he

636
00:36:25,485 --> 00:36:30,725
Speaker 1: had reported Evelyn Rice missing and there's body parts just

637
00:36:30,765 --> 00:36:34,765
Speaker 1: like appearing all over town of this woman who the

638
00:36:34,805 --> 00:36:40,245
Speaker 1: hecks Evelyn Rice. We'll get there. But so basically he

639
00:36:40,325 --> 00:36:43,765
Speaker 1: gets taken into custody over suspicion of this missing person's

640
00:36:43,765 --> 00:36:47,405
Speaker 1: report and being sketchy to the neighbor. So the police

641
00:36:47,445 --> 00:36:50,965
Speaker 1: take over, like just take over his house, do some searching,

642
00:36:51,565 --> 00:36:54,485
Speaker 1: and then they're like digging in the yard and everything,

643
00:36:54,685 --> 00:36:58,885
Speaker 1: and then they hit a concrete slab which is like

644
00:36:58,925 --> 00:37:01,045
Speaker 1: a little over a foot down and they're like, hmm,

645
00:37:01,205 --> 00:37:04,685
Speaker 1: let's move this little slab here and you guessed it.

646
00:37:05,205 --> 00:37:08,405
Speaker 1: What do they find a head and the other fourth

647
00:37:08,885 --> 00:37:12,805
Speaker 1: of the torso and the remaining missing body parts in

648
00:37:12,885 --> 00:37:17,565
Speaker 1: Turkeni's backyard, which is like really damning, I would say,

649
00:37:18,045 --> 00:37:21,485
Speaker 1: also dumb, dumb they found it, They're never gonna find it.

650
00:37:21,525 --> 00:37:26,525
Speaker 1: Well they did, well they did so. Yeah, so he's

651
00:37:26,525 --> 00:37:30,565
Speaker 1: getting interrogated pretty hard for two days and he's like,

652
00:37:30,605 --> 00:37:32,685
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't do anything,

653
00:37:32,885 --> 00:37:36,805
Speaker 1: but the police are getting really grumpy, and then finally

654
00:37:36,925 --> 00:37:39,565
Speaker 1: they're just like this, I'm just I've had enough. Like

655
00:37:39,645 --> 00:37:42,165
Speaker 1: this guy clearly did it. I'm gonna we're gonna trigger him.

656
00:37:42,605 --> 00:37:45,485
Speaker 1: So what do they do? But they put the head

657
00:37:45,565 --> 00:37:48,645
Speaker 1: that they found and the other fourth of the torso

658
00:37:48,925 --> 00:37:51,725
Speaker 1: was attached to the head as well, I think, put

659
00:37:51,765 --> 00:37:54,725
Speaker 1: it in this like tub this like tupperware, brought it

660
00:37:54,765 --> 00:37:57,325
Speaker 1: into the interrogation room. Was like, m do you know

661
00:37:57,365 --> 00:38:00,165
Speaker 1: anything about this being found in your front yard? And

662
00:38:00,205 --> 00:38:02,405
Speaker 1: then he's like, oh, I don't know what you're talking about.

663
00:38:02,445 --> 00:38:06,325
Speaker 1: And then the police say who is this and he's like, oh, yeah,

664
00:38:06,325 --> 00:38:10,365
Speaker 1: that that's Evelyn Rice. Yeah I did that, and so

665
00:38:10,445 --> 00:38:13,405
Speaker 1: he just like admits to it. I'm sorry but he's

666
00:38:13,485 --> 00:38:16,445
Speaker 1: not the smartest, not the bride. Is he out? I

667
00:38:16,445 --> 00:38:19,045
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about about him if he's out. Yes,

668
00:38:19,245 --> 00:38:22,125
Speaker 1: So well this was nineteen this is nineteen thirty nine,

669
00:38:22,165 --> 00:38:24,885
Speaker 1: and he was like an older gentleman, So okay, then

670
00:38:25,005 --> 00:38:29,805
Speaker 1: that was really dumb lovingly, and also I think that

671
00:38:29,925 --> 00:38:33,325
Speaker 1: we really needs to honor Evelyn as she was originally

672
00:38:33,405 --> 00:38:37,405
Speaker 1: from Georgia, so near us, and she George obviously didn't

673
00:38:37,405 --> 00:38:41,165
Speaker 1: deserve what she what she got, so in a lot

674
00:38:41,165 --> 00:38:44,645
Speaker 1: of these articles, I remember it's nineteen thirty nine, so

675
00:38:44,685 --> 00:38:47,405
Speaker 1: it was a while ago, things have changed, but it

676
00:38:47,445 --> 00:38:52,165
Speaker 1: literally describes her first as like a divorcee, and I'm

677
00:38:52,165 --> 00:38:54,285
Speaker 1: just like, come on, do we really have to do that?

678
00:38:54,365 --> 00:38:57,405
Speaker 1: And it's just like really annoys me when we have

679
00:38:57,525 --> 00:39:00,845
Speaker 1: to say we have to identify ourselves as miss miss

680
00:39:00,965 --> 00:39:04,045
Speaker 1: or missus, and I just think it's really ridiculous that

681
00:39:04,085 --> 00:39:08,565
Speaker 1: I have to specify to whomever that's what my marital

682
00:39:08,645 --> 00:39:11,605
Speaker 1: status is, like get out of town, absolutely call me queen,

683
00:39:11,685 --> 00:39:14,005
Speaker 1: or don't call me anything at all. I mean, And

684
00:39:14,085 --> 00:39:16,445
Speaker 1: the only thing that makes it like somewhat relevant, I

685
00:39:16,445 --> 00:39:20,285
Speaker 1: guess is like if you're if you're murdered, because it's like,

686
00:39:20,645 --> 00:39:24,005
Speaker 1: let's go to your significant other or X or your exes,

687
00:39:24,085 --> 00:39:27,485
Speaker 1: you know, like that's the only way I think it's

688
00:39:27,525 --> 00:39:33,885
Speaker 1: significant is because they probably murdered you anyway. Probably anyway,

689
00:39:34,005 --> 00:39:36,765
Speaker 1: So I would like to say that Evelyn Rice was

690
00:39:36,805 --> 00:39:39,165
Speaker 1: a thirty year old woman. She was a modern woman.

691
00:39:39,405 --> 00:39:42,445
Speaker 1: She was a hard worker. She worked as a mind

692
00:39:42,485 --> 00:39:47,565
Speaker 1: reader and a barmaid. She had two kids, and so

693
00:39:47,645 --> 00:39:49,565
Speaker 1: she was like working really hard to do what she

694
00:39:49,645 --> 00:39:51,885
Speaker 1: had to do to take care of her kids, working hard,

695
00:39:51,925 --> 00:39:56,445
Speaker 1: reading minds exactly. And she came from a great family.

696
00:39:56,725 --> 00:39:59,325
Speaker 1: She was a former beauty queen and Georgia like she

697
00:39:59,445 --> 00:40:01,165
Speaker 1: was just like she just kind of had it all.

698
00:40:01,165 --> 00:40:04,405
Speaker 1: She just you know, ended up with someone that was

699
00:40:04,445 --> 00:40:07,205
Speaker 1: not so great. So anyway, she eventually gets a job

700
00:40:07,245 --> 00:40:10,925
Speaker 1: at a saloon working for Tarquinio, and they like hit

701
00:40:10,965 --> 00:40:14,245
Speaker 1: it off, and eventually she moves in as like a

702
00:40:14,285 --> 00:40:18,965
Speaker 1: live in made and turned lover. Their relationship was not great.

703
00:40:19,125 --> 00:40:23,205
Speaker 1: They argued over stuff often while shrinking. So that's not

704
00:40:23,245 --> 00:40:27,045
Speaker 1: a good start. Was Tarquinio married at all? No, right,

705
00:40:27,165 --> 00:40:28,845
Speaker 1: I don't think so that it's specified because we don't

706
00:40:28,885 --> 00:40:36,165
Speaker 1: have to specify the matter exactly. So but anyway, So

707
00:40:36,205 --> 00:40:38,365
Speaker 1: what happened was it was one of their days where

708
00:40:38,405 --> 00:40:42,365
Speaker 1: they were arguing, but this time Tarquinio pushed Evelyn down

709
00:40:42,405 --> 00:40:44,965
Speaker 1: the stairs, where she hit her head on the concrete

710
00:40:44,965 --> 00:40:50,885
Speaker 1: slab at the bottom, which obviously not good kills her instantly.

711
00:40:51,245 --> 00:40:53,965
Speaker 1: So Tarquinio's like, oops, like what no, Like, what do

712
00:40:54,085 --> 00:40:56,805
Speaker 1: I do? So he's like, I'll just take her to

713
00:40:56,845 --> 00:40:59,765
Speaker 1: the basement and just starts cutting away with a butcher's

714
00:40:59,805 --> 00:41:03,765
Speaker 1: knife and then decided to dispose of the body parts, right,

715
00:41:03,845 --> 00:41:07,085
Speaker 1: because that's how you react to accident and killing someone. Well, okay,

716
00:41:07,285 --> 00:41:09,445
Speaker 1: I don't know how you're supposed to react to that,

717
00:41:09,525 --> 00:41:12,245
Speaker 1: but I don't think cutting up the body parts. That's

718
00:41:12,245 --> 00:41:15,405
Speaker 1: probably where my mind goes. Like I feel like, if

719
00:41:15,485 --> 00:41:18,365
Speaker 1: you like that's that's pretty traumatizing. Like I don't even

720
00:41:18,445 --> 00:41:20,605
Speaker 1: like cooking chicken or meat or anything, you know what,

721
00:41:20,645 --> 00:41:24,605
Speaker 1: I mean to like actually have to dismember. It's just

722
00:41:24,645 --> 00:41:27,765
Speaker 1: it freaks me out. I'm I'm it's too much. I mean.

723
00:41:27,845 --> 00:41:32,725
Speaker 1: And also, if he didn't disperse the body parts out

724
00:41:32,765 --> 00:41:34,805
Speaker 1: into the world, like, would he have not been caught?

725
00:41:34,925 --> 00:41:36,805
Speaker 1: I mean, she did have like a great family, they

726
00:41:36,845 --> 00:41:41,005
Speaker 1: probably would have called. But like still anyway, so Tarkinia

727
00:41:41,045 --> 00:41:45,085
Speaker 1: goes to jail for life, got out on parole after

728
00:41:45,165 --> 00:41:48,045
Speaker 1: fifteen and a half years, and when he finished parole,

729
00:41:48,445 --> 00:41:50,845
Speaker 1: he like everybody was like, oh, he's really great, he's

730
00:41:50,885 --> 00:41:53,685
Speaker 1: like really nice, blah blah blah. He literally just like

731
00:41:53,845 --> 00:41:58,205
Speaker 1: vanishes and they don't know where he went. And I

732
00:41:58,245 --> 00:42:00,565
Speaker 1: just think that's really weird. And I feel like there's

733
00:42:00,605 --> 00:42:05,245
Speaker 1: these instances of people cutting up people, dismembering people and

734
00:42:05,285 --> 00:42:07,965
Speaker 1: then just like not getting into as much trouble or something,

735
00:42:07,965 --> 00:42:11,765
Speaker 1: which I just find really strange because that seems a

736
00:42:11,845 --> 00:42:14,685
Speaker 1: little bit crazy to me, a lot a bit crazy.

737
00:42:14,725 --> 00:42:17,645
Speaker 1: It's a crazy town, as you say, it is crazy

738
00:42:17,685 --> 00:42:20,685
Speaker 1: down because like if you're taking the time to dismember

739
00:42:20,725 --> 00:42:23,165
Speaker 1: somebody and then like carry on with life, like how

740
00:42:23,205 --> 00:42:26,445
Speaker 1: are you? Mentally, like, let's check in here in Tarkenio.

741
00:42:26,845 --> 00:42:29,525
Speaker 1: But then he just like vanishes. So who knows he

742
00:42:29,525 --> 00:42:31,725
Speaker 1: could still be alive today. I don't know, you don't

743
00:42:31,725 --> 00:42:34,325
Speaker 1: know where he is. Probably not, but he could. I

744
00:42:34,325 --> 00:42:37,645
Speaker 1: mean as he might be an immortal, he might be immortal,

745
00:42:37,685 --> 00:42:40,485
Speaker 1: he might be an avid Cadavergaw's listener, who knows? Don't

746
00:42:40,525 --> 00:42:45,845
Speaker 1: even say that now. So this is the terrible and

747
00:42:45,885 --> 00:42:54,725
Speaker 1: tragic story of Evelyn Rice and Tarquinio bitch face. Yeah, well, Taylor,

748
00:42:54,885 --> 00:42:59,485
Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing this story. You know,

749
00:42:59,685 --> 00:43:02,205
Speaker 1: this really was kind of sad. That's a sad story.

750
00:43:02,285 --> 00:43:06,925
Speaker 1: But after the break, I would love to talk about

751
00:43:06,965 --> 00:43:09,525
Speaker 1: what exactly do you do if you find a dead

752
00:43:09,525 --> 00:43:21,445
Speaker 1: body and it's not your fault? Hi? Hi, we're back. Yes.

753
00:43:22,085 --> 00:43:26,365
Speaker 1: So this man decided he accidentally killed a woman who

754
00:43:26,645 --> 00:43:29,845
Speaker 1: I am just I'm really mad at him, and she

755
00:43:29,925 --> 00:43:32,285
Speaker 1: did not obviously deserve to be killed, but then he

756
00:43:32,325 --> 00:43:37,405
Speaker 1: dismembered her, which is again crazytown insane. Why why is

757
00:43:37,405 --> 00:43:41,045
Speaker 1: that your reaction? So I have I've been running lately

758
00:43:41,085 --> 00:43:42,885
Speaker 1: and I was just wondering Taylor, when you told me

759
00:43:42,885 --> 00:43:44,525
Speaker 1: that you were going to do the story, I was like,

760
00:43:45,125 --> 00:43:49,125
Speaker 1: what do you do if some law and ordership actually

761
00:43:49,205 --> 00:43:52,365
Speaker 1: happens in your life and you end up coming across

762
00:43:52,405 --> 00:43:55,805
Speaker 1: a dead body? What legally do you have to do?

763
00:43:56,565 --> 00:44:01,645
Speaker 1: Like that child? Yeah, poor kid, I mean he could

764
00:44:01,685 --> 00:44:04,365
Speaker 1: still be out there today and like he's just completely

765
00:44:04,365 --> 00:44:08,365
Speaker 1: traumatized from fine ending dismembered body parts. He said, a

766
00:44:08,445 --> 00:44:12,765
Speaker 1: hand to hand, like just like that. Listen. Apparently this

767
00:44:12,885 --> 00:44:14,885
Speaker 1: is usually the steps that you take. If you find one,

768
00:44:15,365 --> 00:44:17,645
Speaker 1: you have to call nine one one, and you should

769
00:44:17,685 --> 00:44:21,005
Speaker 1: stay away from the body because you could contract like

770
00:44:21,045 --> 00:44:25,685
Speaker 1: blood borne pathogens. It might not be like safe or whatever. Basically,

771
00:44:25,725 --> 00:44:28,365
Speaker 1: do not get near it. And then if the death

772
00:44:28,405 --> 00:44:31,445
Speaker 1: looks suspicious. I read an article that literally just said

773
00:44:31,685 --> 00:44:34,245
Speaker 1: watch your back because the source of violence or death

774
00:44:34,245 --> 00:44:39,445
Speaker 1: could still be hanging around totally busting up a crime scene.

775
00:44:39,925 --> 00:44:43,645
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, so you just immediately call the authorities.

776
00:44:43,765 --> 00:44:47,845
Speaker 1: Now as far as legally, what do you do do

777
00:44:47,925 --> 00:44:52,365
Speaker 1: you have to call the authorities? Well, each state is different,

778
00:44:52,725 --> 00:44:55,925
Speaker 1: so it's kind of like a little bit complicated. Like

779
00:44:56,005 --> 00:45:00,365
Speaker 1: in Oregon, for example, you cannot chop up or move

780
00:45:00,485 --> 00:45:03,245
Speaker 1: a dead body, but you don't have to report it,

781
00:45:03,565 --> 00:45:05,805
Speaker 1: which is just very strange. You can't chop up a body,

782
00:45:05,805 --> 00:45:08,245
Speaker 1: but you can move it. No, you can't chock up

783
00:45:08,245 --> 00:45:10,605
Speaker 1: a body or move it, but you can't you don't

784
00:45:10,645 --> 00:45:13,725
Speaker 1: have to report it, which is just quite strange in

785
00:45:13,725 --> 00:45:17,685
Speaker 1: my opinion. There was this case in twenty fifteen where

786
00:45:17,885 --> 00:45:20,965
Speaker 1: this woman's sister passed away in the home that they shared,

787
00:45:21,245 --> 00:45:25,085
Speaker 1: and the woman just left her sister's body to rot

788
00:45:25,125 --> 00:45:29,045
Speaker 1: in a room in their house and then this woman

789
00:45:29,285 --> 00:45:32,645
Speaker 1: fell on her front porch five months later, and that's

790
00:45:32,645 --> 00:45:36,485
Speaker 1: when emergency responders found the woman and found her sister

791
00:45:36,965 --> 00:45:39,685
Speaker 1: rotting in the room, and the DA ended up not

792
00:45:39,725 --> 00:45:43,525
Speaker 1: pressing charges because technically nothing illegal happened. She didn't like

793
00:45:43,525 --> 00:45:46,085
Speaker 1: abuse with the body. There wasn't it was anything bad,

794
00:45:46,205 --> 00:45:48,565
Speaker 1: and she wasn't the legal caregiver, so she had no

795
00:45:48,685 --> 00:45:52,525
Speaker 1: legal obligation to, you know, dealing with her sister's body.

796
00:45:54,165 --> 00:45:56,765
Speaker 1: I don't like that. Isn't that insane? They also had

797
00:45:56,925 --> 00:45:59,405
Speaker 1: this is really all of it is kind of bad.

798
00:45:59,445 --> 00:46:02,005
Speaker 1: But they also found a bunch of like dead cats

799
00:46:02,045 --> 00:46:04,685
Speaker 1: and a lot of trash, So it seems like when

800
00:46:04,685 --> 00:46:07,765
Speaker 1: people leave body to rot in that way, it's kind

801
00:46:07,805 --> 00:46:10,245
Speaker 1: of like a hoarding situation where they just don't know

802
00:46:10,685 --> 00:46:12,805
Speaker 1: what to do and there's like already things that are

803
00:46:12,845 --> 00:46:16,085
Speaker 1: piled up. There was another case in a different state,

804
00:46:16,125 --> 00:46:20,845
Speaker 1: and this is really really sad, where this woman's mother

805
00:46:21,485 --> 00:46:24,285
Speaker 1: was an addict and was living with her boyfriend at

806
00:46:24,325 --> 00:46:28,245
Speaker 1: the time, and the mother passed away. She overdosed, and

807
00:46:28,365 --> 00:46:30,325
Speaker 1: the boyfriend, who was also doing drugs with the mother,

808
00:46:30,805 --> 00:46:33,725
Speaker 1: put her in a room and basically sealed the room

809
00:46:33,845 --> 00:46:37,405
Speaker 1: like with a towel under under the door and continue

810
00:46:37,445 --> 00:46:40,325
Speaker 1: doing drugs for days and a moment when she couldn't

811
00:46:40,325 --> 00:46:42,125
Speaker 1: get in contact with her mother, went to see her

812
00:46:42,125 --> 00:46:45,445
Speaker 1: mother and sure enough, like there was a mother's body

813
00:46:45,485 --> 00:46:48,885
Speaker 1: and the woman couldn't press charges because technically it was

814
00:46:48,925 --> 00:46:52,445
Speaker 1: not illegal what he did, so you just don't have

815
00:46:52,525 --> 00:46:55,605
Speaker 1: to report it. That seems a little bit. That seems weird. Yeah,

816
00:46:55,605 --> 00:46:58,565
Speaker 1: it's really sad and kind of insane, and I feel

817
00:46:58,565 --> 00:47:02,285
Speaker 1: like there should be just like an overall law across

818
00:47:02,325 --> 00:47:05,005
Speaker 1: the country for these things, because there are weird legal

819
00:47:05,045 --> 00:47:09,165
Speaker 1: loophole so the people are going through to not require

820
00:47:09,245 --> 00:47:12,605
Speaker 1: proper burial for these people, and that is just kind

821
00:47:12,605 --> 00:47:16,085
Speaker 1: of terrible. I was reading about, like if you see

822
00:47:16,085 --> 00:47:19,245
Speaker 1: someone struggling and you're like you want to do CPR

823
00:47:19,325 --> 00:47:21,085
Speaker 1: on them or you go to help them, there are

824
00:47:21,165 --> 00:47:23,965
Speaker 1: laws to protect you just in case they want to

825
00:47:24,005 --> 00:47:26,885
Speaker 1: sue you. Like, for example, if you see someone choking

826
00:47:27,565 --> 00:47:29,965
Speaker 1: and you're scared of doing CPR because you're scared you

827
00:47:30,045 --> 00:47:32,285
Speaker 1: might break their ribs or like make it worse. But

828
00:47:32,365 --> 00:47:35,245
Speaker 1: the Good Samaritan law actually protects you from that. So

829
00:47:35,285 --> 00:47:37,485
Speaker 1: if you see someone struggling, you can go help them

830
00:47:37,525 --> 00:47:39,725
Speaker 1: and they won't be able to suit you or anything

831
00:47:40,165 --> 00:47:42,885
Speaker 1: because you're just you're just being a good person, you know.

832
00:47:43,285 --> 00:47:46,645
Speaker 1: And then there are I know, in the state of Vermont,

833
00:47:46,725 --> 00:47:50,485
Speaker 1: it is illegal to see someone struggling and not do

834
00:47:50,565 --> 00:47:52,605
Speaker 1: something to help. It's not like crazy illegal, it's just

835
00:47:52,605 --> 00:47:55,525
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars fine, but it's called duty to assist.

836
00:47:56,365 --> 00:47:59,525
Speaker 1: But like, how do you like where where's this? Where scale?

837
00:47:59,605 --> 00:48:02,165
Speaker 1: Where's the line? Because like if somebody's choking and you

838
00:48:02,205 --> 00:48:04,965
Speaker 1: need to do the Himeli maneuver or something like what

839
00:48:05,005 --> 00:48:06,845
Speaker 1: if you don't know how? But I mean like calls it.

840
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like well, I think even if finds help,

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Speaker 1: and that's in some situations. I guess if you if

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Speaker 1: you are not certified, you just call for help, you

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Speaker 1: like call like nine on one or whatever. I feel

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00:48:19,285 --> 00:48:20,765
Speaker 1: like that's the only way that you help at that point,

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Speaker 1: because you could make it worse if you're not trained.

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Speaker 1: Right does everyone Vermont it's like rugged, you know, they

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00:48:27,885 --> 00:48:32,405
Speaker 1: all got training first respond or train and survivalist. I

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Speaker 1: was like certified CPR like forever ago, but it like

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00:48:37,245 --> 00:48:40,885
Speaker 1: changes and you have to like re certify every few

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Speaker 1: years or something. But it's like if it expires in

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00:48:44,365 --> 00:48:46,605
Speaker 1: like a month, but then you like, I don't know,

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00:48:46,645 --> 00:48:49,245
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, well the good Samaritan, I'll protects you

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00:48:49,285 --> 00:48:51,485
Speaker 1: from that. So if someone's like, well they weren't certified,

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00:48:51,525 --> 00:48:55,285
Speaker 1: it's like, well, like I could help you legally, you know,

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00:48:55,365 --> 00:48:58,045
Speaker 1: and it really protects you, especially if they cannot consent,

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Speaker 1: like this person is choking and they literally cannot consent

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Speaker 1: or their unconscious and you're just do CPR until you

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Speaker 1: know authorities get there or whatever, then you'll be protected.

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Speaker 1: It's just funny to me how there's so many weird

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Speaker 1: laws and loopholes in the US because everyone be suing everyone.

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Speaker 1: It's honestly like the butt of a joke, like in internationally,

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Speaker 1: when I have lived outside of the US, it's like

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Speaker 1: the US being the place where everyone sues each other

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Speaker 1: is just like a running thing. It's hilarious. And then

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Speaker 1: I live here and I'm like, oh, yeah, no, people

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00:49:28,565 --> 00:49:32,365
Speaker 1: do it all the time, but yeah, really interesting. My

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Speaker 1: number one recommendation is don't come across the dead body,

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Speaker 1: but if you do, please call the authorities as soon

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Speaker 1: as physically possible because that is terrifying. And then also

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Speaker 1: try to get therapy if possible. Oh yeah, yeah, I

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00:49:45,525 --> 00:49:48,925
Speaker 1: get some therapy afterwards. Yeah, honestly, does it most states

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Speaker 1: where you have to report it? Or is it like

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Speaker 1: half and half majority of states you have to report it?

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Speaker 1: But there's weird instances like I think in Missouri or

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Speaker 1: like that instance in Oregon. And it's just also it's

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Speaker 1: kind of one of those things where they don't change

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Speaker 1: the law until something really shitty happens, like what that

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Speaker 1: what the lady with her mother happened? And then the

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00:50:10,725 --> 00:50:13,085
Speaker 1: laws like, oh shoot, we have to fix this, and

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00:50:13,125 --> 00:50:17,445
Speaker 1: then they fix it. Yeah, it's like laws. Laws existed,

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00:50:17,685 --> 00:50:19,965
Speaker 1: they exist for a reason, right, like something happened to

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Speaker 1: make that law, you know, yeah go into place, or

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Speaker 1: because people are racist or okay, yep, you're probably right there.

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Speaker 1: The US is where people sue people and where people

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Speaker 1: are racist. Yep, So there you go. Thanks for listening today.

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, what what what did? What did we learn?

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Speaker 1: I feel like it was mostly about safety and any

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Speaker 1: any thoughts. If you're gonna choke, know how to choke.

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Speaker 1: But if you find a dead boy that's been choked,

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Speaker 1: maybe reported barbs in alive body that is currently choking,

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00:50:58,405 --> 00:51:03,325
Speaker 1: help And it's okay unless you're in some places. Wow,

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00:51:03,365 --> 00:51:10,605
Speaker 1: that's concise and nice. I love it. Yeah, well done, Okay,

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00:51:11,285 --> 00:51:14,565
Speaker 1: gold star for Gabby. Um, thank you. Yeah, that's basically it.

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Speaker 1: And be safe out there and don't look into sewers

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Speaker 1: because what good is going to come out of a sewer? Nothing?

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Speaker 1: A rat. We hate rats over here except for Gabby.

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Speaker 1: All right, everyone, well, thank you so much for listening,

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Speaker 1: and be safe out there. We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Cadaver Gals is a production of School of Humans and iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: It is produced, edited, written, hosted, et cetera, et cetera

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Speaker 1: by Gabby Watts, Taylor Church, and nic You can follow

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