1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Ditty car bomb horror revealed. 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: This is we learn a designer scarf think air Mays 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: was used as a wick for a Molotov cocktail? Gee, 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: I wonder who would do that? And we learned tonight 5 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: crucial evidence fingerprints on the molotov were destroyed. Was that 6 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: came out in court? Diddy's entire team goes crazy demanding 7 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: a mistrial. Good evening, I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being with us. I 9 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: think the judge was completely wrong disallowing testimony that the 10 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: fingerprint cards of a female perp on the molotov that's 11 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: not going to be able to come into evidence. Why 12 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: that that's critical evidence? Who destroyed those fingerprint cards? What 13 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: if those fingerprints revealed a Didty associate? And how out 14 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: of all the evidence did fingerprints and a Ditty related 15 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: bombing go missing? Wow? Okay? Joining me an all star panel? 16 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: Straight out to Rob Shooter Joining me, host of Naughty 17 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: but Nice podcast can be found at Robshooter dot substack 18 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: dot com. Former longtime publicists for Shawn Combs aka Didty, 19 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: author of the four word answer Rob Shooter, did you 20 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: hear what I just said. The wick to a molotoph 21 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: In every Molotov case I'm ever investigated or prosecuted, the 22 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: wick was string, a piece of rope. Sometimes a very 23 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: rustic wit would be made out of paper twisted to 24 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: be a wick. But a design scarf, think air mais 25 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: if I'm even saying that correctly? Wow, I wonder who 26 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: did that? Didn't you say he always wore scarves. 27 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: He did wear a lot of scarfs, and he loved 28 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: a lot of luxury goods. This is a guy that 29 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: grew up pretty poor, and so when he could afford 30 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: luxury goods, he absolutely bought them. I was at his 31 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: home once, Nancy, and there were bags and bags and 32 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 2: bags of designer clothing that he'd never worn, that was 33 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: just sitting there in his living room, in his kitchen, 34 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: and he had never even bothered to take them out 35 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: of the bag. It's a life of excess, and ultimately 36 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: now it looks like it's a life of crime to. 37 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm getting at something psychological and I need a shrink. 38 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm just a trial lawyer. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining me 39 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: now in psycho Analyst out of la author of deal Breaker. 40 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: You can see her now on peacock and she's at 41 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany, help me find 42 00:02:54,200 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: the right psychoanalytic words. Okay, of cocktail, right? 43 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: That is? 44 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: Typically a glass container can be something else, but glass 45 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: is the best conduit. Filled with accelerant. Accelerant? What is 46 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: that gasoline toalluline? It can be anything that will blow up. 47 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: A wick is inserted into the top of the glass receptacle. 48 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: Think of a coat bottle, that's an easy one, or 49 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: a mason jar. Okay, Typically it is string, it is rope. 50 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: It is twisted newspaper, twisted paper with a nice long wick, 51 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: so the thing won't catch on fire as you're holding 52 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: it right before you throw it. You light it at 53 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: the very last moment and then throw it. We know 54 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: fingerprints have been obtained off of that molotov. What was 55 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: remaining of it? It was found in the car for 56 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: Pete's seat, kid Cutty's car. This is what I need 57 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: from you, Bethany. Think about it. Who would use an 58 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: air maize scarf? Who who would use that? Who would 59 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: destroy that? Use it as a wick? Now? Think when 60 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: you don't know a horse, look at his track record. 61 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: Think about how Sean comes destroyed all those tens of 62 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars hotel suites for a freak off, the 63 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: incredible vast waste of luxury goods, money just throwing it. 64 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: What does that tell you about the identity connected to 65 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: this Molotov. 66 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: Well, furthermore, Nancy, somebody who's very impulsive, full of rage, 67 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: not in good control of himself, perhaps on steroids other drugs. 68 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 4: Somebody who just grabs a gun, grabs a scarf, goes 69 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: to somebody's house, kidnaps them. I used to hear impulsivity 70 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 4: and agitation. So of course you're providing a link between 71 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: the air Ma's scarf and p Diddy, right, and the 72 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 4: excess and the waste. But I used to I see 73 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 4: a more profound psychological link, which is that p did 74 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 4: is not in control of himself in. 75 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,119 Speaker 5: Any real way. 76 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: And so, like you know, it's interesting the way that 77 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: the money is thrown around. And I mean, I don't know, 78 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: I've never had one, But what does a scarf like 79 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: that go for? Like a couple of thousand dollars? Could 80 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: you find that out for me? 81 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: Jack? 82 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: How much does a scarf like that cost? And why 83 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: would somebody soak it in a coke bottle full of gasoline. Gosh. 84 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: I wonder if they looked around for who went to 85 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: buy gas at nearby gas stations at that time of 86 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: the night. I bet that would be revealing, you know. 87 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, doctor Beth, and I want to 88 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: circle back to you about the psychological profile on that 89 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: joining me, Crime Stories investigative reporter Sydney Sumner, combing over 90 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: every word coming from the witness stand, tell me about 91 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: the fingerprint and the destruction of those fingerprint cards. 92 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 6: Executors asked the fire investigator in charge of the case 93 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 6: about fingerprint cards that were taken from the home when 94 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 6: they were investigating the burglary about a month earlier. The 95 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 6: fire investigator said he took those slides as a part 96 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 6: of his investigation to see if he could match anything 97 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 6: that was found on the bottle inside the car, and 98 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 6: he said if that evidence had been destroyed, he would 99 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 6: have had to sign off on it. But an LAPD 100 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 6: officer who was not involved in the investigation at all 101 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 6: signed off on the destruction of that evidence. And that's 102 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 6: when the defense freaked out, stopped everything and called for 103 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 6: a mistrial. 104 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Slow, that down one more time. You said, the 105 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: destruction of the evidence, that is the fingerprint card, was 106 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: ordered by someone not connected to the arson investigation. 107 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 6: Correct, That's what that fire investigator testified to and he 108 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 6: said he found that very very odd. That was not 109 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 6: typical procedure. 110 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: Okay, what was the ground for the mistrial? Diddy's fits 111 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: team goes crazy when that comes into evidence. Someone ordered 112 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: the destruction of that fingerprint card with a female fingerprint 113 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: on it? Was that female someone that worked for Sean Combs. 114 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: That's the big question. Do we know who ordered the 115 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: destruction of the fingerprint evidence Sydney can't be that hard 116 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: to find out, And what was the grounds for the mistrial? 117 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 6: So that's exactly what the defense team is getting at. 118 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 6: They called that prosecutorial misconduct because the prosecutors were suggesting 119 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 6: that Combs ordered that evidence be destroyed and somehow paid 120 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 6: off investigators to make that happen. 121 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: And we already. 122 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 6: Heard from jurors during jury selection that they believed Combs 123 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 6: could buy his way out of anything. So on that 124 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 6: line of questioning is what the defense had a problem 125 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 6: with and what they said was ground for a mistrial. 126 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 6: Shapiro said that you can't unring that bell. But the 127 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 6: judge obviously disagreed. 128 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: Straight out to veteran trial lawyer Philip Debay joining us 129 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: LA County Public Defender's Office, that means he's tried a 130 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: lot of cases focuses on criminal constitutional law. Debay, thank 131 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: you for being with us. I can only imagine the 132 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: grounds for the mistrial. They're worried it's going to look 133 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: like Sean Combs ordered that fingerprint evidence destroyed. That's what 134 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: they're worried about. 135 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 7: Well, that's one angle. The other aspect is to be 136 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 7: fair to mister Diddy Combs is it could be exculpatory, 137 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 7: and the fact that brading material was destroyed pointing the 138 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 7: finger directly at the party culprit is evidence that he 139 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 7: had no involvement in that arson. So I think the 140 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 7: defense is entitled to raise it. And if you can 141 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 7: show animus toward him on the part of it, one place, 142 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 7: that's grounds to kick it. 143 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that was the objection. Brady v. Maryland, 144 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: which is a US Supreme Court case. The State of 145 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: Maryland prosecuted Brady for a crime, and in that case, 146 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: decades ago, it was learned to state withheld exculpatory or 147 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: evidence that proves you may not be guilty withheld at 148 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: sculpatory evidence from Brady. Brady appealed it all the way 149 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: up to the US Supreme Court and one the state 150 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: must always hand over Brady or sculpatory material. Here's the reality, 151 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: don't you know? Please? You know what Deby? Get real? 152 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: If the objection the grounds for the mistrial were the 153 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: state didn't give me Brady material, they're not playing fair. 154 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: He would have learned that out in open court. If 155 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: the objection was this makes it a little sight Sean Comb's 156 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: ordered the fingerprint material the evidence to be destroyed. They 157 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't yell that out in court because they don't want 158 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: the jury to hear it. They ran up to the 159 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: judges bench to make their objection, so it was clearly 160 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: something they did not want the jury to hear. When 161 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: I have done an objection, I have to state at 162 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: that moment objection hearsay objection leading. You know, you got 163 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: to give your objection immediately. It's like a tennis match 164 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: or a sniper. You got to hit right then you've 165 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: got to strike. But they went up to the judges 166 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: bench and didn't give their grounds from his trial in 167 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: open court. 168 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 7: Well, the prosecutor has a self executing duty to preserve 169 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 7: the exculpatory evidence irrespective of an objection, and the court 170 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 7: should have stepped in, Sue Sponte to say that I 171 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 7: find that mister Comb's rights under due process were violated 172 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 7: by the destruction of these prints. And now to try 173 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 7: to introduce evidence that it was at his hand, that 174 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 7: perhaps somebody was bought off to destroy these prints, that 175 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 7: is outrageous. 176 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 8: Government. 177 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 7: Wellfore I dismissed this prosecute. 178 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: And what the truth is? The truth? You know, you 179 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: could spin it any way you want to. Let's go 180 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: back to the courthouse again. Joining us. Lauren Conlin, investigative reporter, 181 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: our host of Pop Crime TV. Lauren, thank you for 182 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: being with us. What do you believe was the grounds 183 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: for the mistrial about the fingerprint evidence destruction? Lauren? Yes, Nancy, 184 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: there you go there? 185 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 9: Yes, sorry, sorry, a little fluster there, No, Nancy, it 186 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 9: was about the line of questioning from the government. 187 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 5: I think that was the issue there. 188 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 6: It was. 189 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 9: It was brought up that basically during jury selection, there 190 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 9: was a concern from the jurors that mister Holmes did 191 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 9: he could buy his way out of things celebrity could 192 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 9: buy their way out of things, and the way that 193 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 9: this questioning was praised by the government. 194 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 5: They inferred that the. 195 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 9: Print card that was discuss us was destroyed by someone 196 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 9: in the LAPD who was possibly paid off by Diddy. Now, 197 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,479 Speaker 9: during this line of questioning, the defense did not object 198 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 9: until I wrote down the question. They didn't object until 199 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 9: maybe the second to last question, saying is this unusual 200 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 9: that something like this would be destroyed? 201 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 5: And there was an objection. 202 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 9: It was sustained, and this was brought up when Alexandra 203 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 9: Shapiro moved for a mistrial. The judge said, well, look, 204 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 9: you didn't object, you know, during the questioning, so we'll 205 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 9: go to the jury and we'll say that, you know, 206 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 9: you should disregard the question and you should disregard the answer. 207 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 9: And it got a little heated for a minute when 208 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 9: Alexander Shapiro recommended that the judge tell the jury that 209 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 9: the government made some improper questions or had some improper questions. 210 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 9: The government did not like that, and essentially the judge just. 211 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: Told, yes, question, I want to ask you about something 212 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: you said before I leaves the thought. Okay, stated I 213 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: think you stayd that was a lot of information. I 214 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: want to thank you for that. Lauren Colin. Lauren Colin 215 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: joining us at the courthouse again, Lauren, are you telling 216 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: me the defense sat there and didn't object when the 217 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: line of questioning started about the destruction of the evidence. 218 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: They just sat there, dare. 219 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 9: Was about two questions before they objected, And again I 220 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 9: wrote it down in my notes, but I believe they 221 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 9: objected finally when it was asked, is it unusual for 222 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 9: something like this to be destroyed? 223 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: No? 224 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 5: Man, you investigator drawing. 225 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: You know what that means when you ask a series 226 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: of questions and your culmination to a series of questions 227 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: is well, isn't all of that we just discussed in 228 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: those five or six questions? Isn't that unusual? That is 229 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: the cherry on top of the ice cream Sunday. That's 230 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: where you tie together all the questions you've asked. Oh, 231 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: my stars, are you telling me? Coms is paying millions 232 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: of dollars a day? And that whole defense thing just 233 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: sat there, sat on their thumbs and did nothing until 234 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: the whole line of questioning had almost ceased. No, there 235 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: is no ground for a mistriald. There is no ground 236 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: on appeal because the lawyers sat there deep in their 237 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: own thoughts while that line of questioning was happening. What 238 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: what what their problem? Wake up? Wake up? Brian Steele? 239 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: Well, well I did. I found my notes? 240 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 9: It it sounds like yeah, they they were They asked 241 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 9: the government asked did he authorized the prince being destroyed? 242 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 9: Meaning did the investigator the Arson investigator? And he said no? 243 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 9: And I mean, I'm not a lawyer. Should there have 244 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 9: been an objection there that he you know? They went on, well, 245 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 9: is it unusual? No, someone else would ask, right, that's 246 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 9: not you, that didn't work on the case or directly 247 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 9: on the case, and then there was an objection. 248 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: Well, frankly, I think that that should have been allowed 249 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: because now Lauren Colin, the defense, is going to be 250 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: able to argue the state can't prove these were Shawn 251 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: Colmes's fingerprints, and the state can't prove that they were 252 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: the female fingerprints of an associate or an assistant of 253 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: his without being able to explain the state that it 254 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: was destroyed by who. So now you've got this big 255 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: wet blanket hanging over the defense. Don't move Lauren Colin 256 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: straight out to rob shooter. See Rob shooter. I believe 257 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: you have a very good example of Seawan Combs's buying 258 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: off information. 259 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. 260 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 8: And I was working with Puffy. 261 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: I remember getting a phone call from a photo agency 262 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: who had photographs of Puffy on the street. He was 263 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: here in New York with a young lady that clearly 264 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: wasn't kim Porter, his then girlfriend. This was before Cassie 265 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: and him started to date. And I remember calling Puff 266 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: and making him aware of these photographs. He asked for 267 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: the contact and these pictures disappeared. He purchased these pictures 268 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: to make sure that they never ever saw the light 269 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: of day. So this is a man who knows how 270 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: to get rid of stuff that he doesn't want to 271 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: act too. 272 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: Rachel Fisher joining me. Rachelcher Fisher is an anti trafficking expert. 273 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: She was featured in a twenty twenty two sex trafficking 274 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: documentary Surviving Sex Trafficking. She's a forensic nurse. She's been 275 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: on so many sex trafficking and rape cases. Rachel, sadly, 276 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: you've had experience for pimps have connections within the PD. 277 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 10: Very often we see that there's a lot of bribery 278 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 10: and corruption that happens and I've seen dozens of cases 279 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 10: across the United States, across inter national borders of these 280 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 10: pimps with their power, their money. There's a lot of 281 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 10: money in sex trafficking, and even just the video is 282 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 10: produced during these activities, people purchase that people are involved. 283 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 10: And I've seen so many officers and I love Leo's 284 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 10: I love law enforcements and what they do, but they 285 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 10: actually purchased. They're the john's or the buyers many times 286 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 10: in these things, and they're the ones that are knowingly 287 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 10: facilitating this to happen, and so many times I see 288 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 10: them paid off. 289 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: Lauren Comlin joining US investigative reporter star of Pop Crime 290 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: TV at the courthouse. Lauren, tell me about the dynamic 291 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: in the courtroom today. You've been there all day long. 292 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: How is the state holding up? How is Sean Combs 293 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: holding up? I'm sure the defense is ruffled because they 294 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: had that mischild denied what else they and that's their 295 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: fault because they sat there and didn't object in a 296 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: timely manner. That's very unlike Brian Steele. I've got to 297 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: tell you, I think Still's a really good lawyer. And 298 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 1: I have heard that Tenny Geirgos is a really good 299 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: lawyer as well. Now agnafellow Jurry's out on that after 300 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: his debacle with Harvey Levin and the baby oil Q 301 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: and A. I don't know what to think about that, 302 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: but I know Steal's a great lawyer. I hear Girigos 303 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: is a great lawyer. So tell me the dynamic. What's happening? 304 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 9: Yes, I mean it got really spicy for a minute 305 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 9: when they were discussing the mistrial and about how the 306 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 9: Alexandro Shapiro wanted the language used from the judge, you know, 307 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 9: referencing the government. But before that happened, I would say 308 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 9: that Sean Holmes was pretty happy because his mother is 309 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 9: back in the courtroom. His three sons are here today, 310 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 9: justin Quincy and Christian he stopped. 311 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're making a documentary. They're there because they're making money. 312 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: They're gonna sell a documentary. I don't know, is it 313 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: just me or has anybody else seen that camera crew 314 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: that follows them in and out of the courthouse every day? 315 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 9: So I since I'm in early, I don't really get 316 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 9: to see that, But you're right, they do come in 317 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 9: late every day, as does Ditty's mother. And she actually yesterday, 318 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 9: I didn't see it today, but she comes in with 319 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 9: a little cushion for her bum because the seats are 320 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 9: very hard. I wish I had one of those, but no, overall, 321 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 9: I think I think today with the testimony of the investigators, 322 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 9: we saw someone from the LAPD who responded to the 323 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 9: trespassing or burglary incident at Kid Tattie's house, and then 324 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 9: we saw the arson investigator. 325 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 5: It was a little bit slower. 326 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 9: We recently started testimony from Deontae Nash, that's Cassie's stylist 327 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 9: and friend. So things started to pick up because we 328 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 9: started to hear some really not nice things that Diddy 329 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 9: called Cassie during their relationship. We heard some explicit language hoe, slut, 330 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 9: b We heard that Cassie would cry. 331 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: We've already heard every filthy word and every satis she 332 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: at think of. I mean, maybe there's some more we're 333 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: going haven't dawned on me, So not surprised about any 334 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: of that. The jury's probably numb about hearing the word slut, 335 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? After the male sex workers came on 336 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: and testified, and they've seen those pictures and they all 337 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: look nauseous. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Can I talk 338 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: to you about the Arson investigator. This is really important, 339 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: Lauren Common because in the indictment, the Feds lay out 340 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: a series of crimes that were affected by Shawn Combs's minions. Okay, 341 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: we know that Shawn Comes was not down at the 342 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: Valero filling gas and a coat bottle. He may have 343 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: supplies that two thousand dollars airmy's scarf. Don't know about that, 344 00:20:53,080 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: but the minions prove reco using his business for crime acts. 345 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: So tell me about that Arson investigator because one of 346 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: those acts is Arson in the indictment. 347 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 9: Yes, So the fingerprints or the DNA, I should say, 348 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 9: that was lifted off of this bottle, which we found 349 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 9: out was an old English malt liquor bottle. There was 350 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 9: partial female DNA and the arsenal investigator testified that he 351 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 9: did not know who that belonged to. However, he did 352 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 9: reach out to Capricorn Clark and Cassie Ventura at multiple times. 353 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 9: After speaking to Scott Mescadi kid Cutty during the investigation, 354 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 9: he said that both Cassie and Capricorn Clark did not answer. Again, 355 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 9: he tried multiple times and he actually even contacted Cassie's father, 356 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 9: who was a firefighter, and said, please have your daughter 357 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 9: reach out. 358 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 5: She never did. 359 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 9: He also stated that this investigation is it's inactive, but 360 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 9: it's also technically pending. They never actually closed it, and oh, 361 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 9: you're going to love this. Actually, So in one of 362 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 9: the photos we saw there was a black glove in 363 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 9: the backseat of the car, and that was a. 364 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 5: Really big point of contention for the defense. 365 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 9: For Agnifilo, he kept saying, well, did you test this 366 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 9: black glove for DNA and the investigator said no. The 367 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 9: owner of the car, Scott MESKINI said that was his 368 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 9: driving glove and he's Agnifolo said, well where's the other one? 369 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 9: Why would a driving glove be in the back seat. 370 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 9: So they were really focusing on this and I couldn't 371 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 9: help think of you because I thought of OJ And 372 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 9: then you. 373 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: Know, but another glove defense. 374 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, my own line. 375 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see where that's going. How the defense 376 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: is going to latch onto something that means nothing and 377 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: then use it in the closing statement. I'm very, very 378 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: curious how the jury was responding to that arson investigator 379 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: And another thing, Lauren Conlin, isn't it true? That when 380 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: Capricorn Clark was on cross examination, she was questioned about 381 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: whether there was a third party on the phone when 382 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: they were calling kid Cuddy. Could there possibly be a 383 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: witness that knows Shawn Combs went to the car bombing 384 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: or ordered the car bombing. 385 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 9: Well, this third party was a woman named Lauren London. 386 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 9: She's an actress, a model, really well known. And they 387 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 9: pointed out, or the defense pointed out that yes, okay, sure, 388 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 9: maybe she was on the phone. They elicited that from 389 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 9: Capricorn Plark, but they then said, you know, she remained 390 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 9: friends with Shawn Colmes well after that, so sure, I. 391 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 5: Mean, there could be. 392 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 9: But we also heard from going back to the LAPD officer, 393 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 9: he actually kind of countered some of Capricorn's testimony and 394 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 9: the fact that when he pulled up to Kid Cutty's 395 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 9: house after getting this call about a possible burglary or 396 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 9: trespassing incident, he said that Kid Cutty pulled up after 397 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 9: in his porch and he saw a black escalade parked 398 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 9: in front and then leave and then come back down 399 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 9: a hill about twenty minutes later. He saw nothing, no 400 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 9: nothing about a chase, no car chase. He didn't see 401 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 9: anything of the sort. So that was also kind of 402 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 9: a moment that a lot of us were like. 403 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 5: Oh, okay, So there wasn't a car chase, but there. 404 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: Was an SUV on the scene of the car bomb 405 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: that was connected to Bad Boy Records run by Shawn Combs. 406 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 9: That was the trespassing incident, not the Molotov cotail. But yes, 407 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 9: this police officer made sure to memorize that license plate, 408 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 9: go back, look it up, and then yes, he saw 409 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 9: that it was registered to Bad Boy. 410 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm curious, Lauren Colin. We know that Shawn Combs had 411 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: gone over to Kid Cuddy's apartment and gone in without 412 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: permission and opened up a bunch of presents, we think 413 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: Christmas presence from Cuddy to Cassie Ventura to see what 414 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: he was giving Cassie for Christmas. Question. When Cutty's car, 415 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: his Porsche was bombed, where was it parked? 416 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 9: So it was parked right in front of the garage 417 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 9: or outside of the garage, and the driveway was pretty long. 418 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 9: We saw a picture and there was also two cars 419 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 9: other cars parked behind it. And you know, we learned 420 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 9: during cross examination that he also had another Porsche inside 421 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 9: of the garage and for whatever reason, investigators took a 422 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 9: picture of that. Although I'm not sure what the connection 423 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 9: is there, but it was just kind of interesting. 424 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: So Sean comes clairvoyant that he is, predicts that Kid 425 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: Cutty's car, his Porsche, is going to be bombed. He says, 426 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to bomb his car, you know. A month later, 427 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: the car is bombed, and and we have him at 428 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: Kid Cutty's apartment prior to the car bomb, so he 429 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: knows where Kid Cutty lives. He's been there before, and 430 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: he has gained illegal entrance into the apartment before. And 431 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: now a few weeks later, the car is bombed in 432 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: a very very dangerous way, and the jury can't connect 433 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: the dots. Really, no wonder they objected and wanted a mistrial. 434 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: They want this evidence out. 435 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think, like I said yesterday, I 436 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 9: think yesterday and today have been just really important testimony. 437 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 9: I mean, some of the most important testimony that we've 438 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 9: seen so far, because it is referencing Rico in. 439 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 5: My opinion, and you know, the. 440 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 9: I forget I think it was a US attorney Slavic 441 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 9: who kind of said, you know, look, if this Molotov 442 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 9: cotail had gotten any closer to the house. 443 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 5: It could have done some real damage. 444 00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: Did you ever see one of these anything anything like that? 445 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: Sean comes his tutsie roll tutsi, rollbo even just just 446 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: a niche. Yeah, that's all well and good, but we're 447 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: talking about a car bomb. Joining me, Chris McDonough, Director 448 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: Cold Case Foundation for my purposes, former homicide detective, literally 449 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: hundreds of homicide investigations. I found him in the interview 450 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: room where he is a star on YouTube. Chris McDonough. 451 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: I've prosecuted a lot of murder cases and investigated even more. 452 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: But I've determined after all of that, the single worst 453 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: way to die is by fire, not smoke inhalation, by 454 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: actually burning to death, which is what happens with a molotov. 455 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: And I prosecuted and prepared a DP molotov case. What 456 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: do you think about what you're hearing? And I'd like 457 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: you to weigh in on the missing fingerprint card. How 458 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: devastating is that to this case? And by the way, 459 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: the DP went forward after I already went to court TV. Okay, 460 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: sadly I didn't get in on that, but go ahead. 461 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 11: You know, Nancy, you're one hundred percent right about the 462 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 11: fact that if somebody dies by fire, that is a 463 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 11: horrendous way to die. And in this situation, fortunately it 464 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 11: was only a car and there was nobody around. However, 465 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 11: that said that fire could have spread from that car 466 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 11: to the property, etc. And then other people could have 467 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 11: been put into danger. 468 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 8: About the fingerprint, this could be a simple situation that 469 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 8: it was an evidence chain of custody that the statue 470 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 8: of limitations had expired, and the evidence custodian said, you 471 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 8: know what, this case is never going to go to 472 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 8: a trial, let's destroy this fingerprint card. That's one possible 473 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 8: theory in this particular problem. 474 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: Chris McDonough, Chris, Chris, Chris, yep, you've been a witness 475 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: of so many murder case is if that were the case, 476 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: the defense wouldn't have nutted up technical legal term and 477 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: they would have sat there and gone and then go, 478 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: let's clarify on cross. The reason it was destroyed was 479 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: simply was simply statute limitations. There would not have been 480 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: chairs turning over and a whirlwind and paper slowing up 481 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: in the air motion from his trial. That's not fair. 482 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. There's something about this that they don't like. 483 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: It's like flicking holy water on the devil right when 484 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: they start screaming in objection. There's a reason. It's not 485 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: statutal limitations, my poor sweet naive boy. 486 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 8: Yeah no, and I agree with you. That is just 487 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 8: one possibility. 488 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 12: And then of course the other, you know, the more 489 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 12: problematic for them is he did pay somebody off. Maybe 490 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 12: it was the evidence tech, maybe it was you know, 491 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 12: somebody else in the chain of custody. But the cards 492 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 12: are gone, and you know they're they're going to make 493 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 12: a bigger deal out of this. 494 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 11: But I think the judge is gonna you see, you're. 495 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: Right, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. You know, I'm going 496 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: to go to dobay on this trial strategy debay. You know, 497 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: if it were something innocent such as what Chris mcdonnag 498 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: just brought up, the defense would have sat there and 499 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: let come out, let the state build up to a crescendo, 500 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: Hey did did he pay to have this evidence destroyed? 501 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: And then in one question on cross say you heard 502 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: all of this, but isn't it true it was destroyed 503 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: because of statue limitation. The case couldn't be prosecuted, so 504 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: the evidence was destroyed. So all that is total bs 505 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: and they would use that against the state in final 506 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: closing arguments. I mean I would, but instead they writhed, 507 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: they gnast their teeth and twitched their tails. 508 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 8: Well, I have two thoughts on it. 509 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 7: First of all, back in those days, cops could unilaterally 510 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 7: prepare of forms send it to the state Department of 511 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 7: Justice seeking the ceiling and destruction of any associated, uh 512 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 7: sort of ties to a suspect, just based on the 513 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 7: absence of evidence. And it was clearly within everybody's sort 514 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 7: of frame of reference that Diddy would have been at 515 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 7: the helm of that. But back then detectives, investigating officers 516 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 7: and the leads had authority to fill out a judicial 517 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 7: council form, sign up on it without any signature from 518 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 7: the DA's office, to remove it from somebody's. 519 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: Record, you know, doctor Bethany Marshall. You know I heard 520 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: Philip Dubay's mind numbing explanation like mine a lot better. 521 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: But doctor Bethany, I have always found and again I'm 522 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: just a criminal trial lawyer, all right. If it's not 523 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: about murder, I don't know about it, Doctor Bethany. The 524 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: mind of an arsonist, there's something pinky or about an 525 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: arsonist because the pain that burning to death inflicts the 526 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: watching the fire, the using the air Ma scarf or 527 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: a look alike as the wick. It made something. You 528 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: got to help me here. 529 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 4: Well, I do think of Pddy because he had just 530 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 4: found out that Cassie was seeing Kid Cutty. And when 531 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 4: you combine explosive rage, fire, wanting to do maximum damage, 532 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: trying to send a message going inside the house, ripping 533 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 4: open packages to make sure Christmas presents, nonetheless to make 534 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 4: sure Kid Cutty wasn't giving a gift to Cassie, the arson, 535 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 4: in my mind, goes to the biggest signal he can 536 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 4: send without actually killing Kid Cutty right then and there. 537 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 4: And by the way, who knows if he if he 538 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 4: would step Kit Cutty hadn't been home, So that to me, 539 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 4: I just I think of impulse control disorder, explosive intermittent 540 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 4: explosive disorder, rage, aggression, and I think of sex trafficking. 541 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 4: I'm more well talking about Rico this morning, but we 542 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: think of p. Ditty as the pimp and Cassie is 543 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 4: his victim. You know, some other dude is coming in 544 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 4: and taking away the dumb and he's going to scare 545 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 4: that guy away. 546 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: Joining us now a very special guest, Lisa Kennedy. I'm 547 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: sure you've seen her on the airways, and you can 548 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: find her at dailymail dot com, where she is a columnist. 549 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: And I look forward to every single column you write. 550 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: But I was especially intrigued by your ditty column. But first, 551 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: just remember this, whatever happens between me and the about 552 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: Ditty will always have Murdog. Remember that late night we 553 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: spent together on the airwaves, me sitting out in front 554 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: of the courthouse in the pouring rain, and you and 555 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: your cozy studio interviewing me. Good times. We'll always have 556 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: that night, Kennedy, Now to the matter at hand. Your 557 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: article was amazing, but I'd like to hear before I 558 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: get to that, your thoughts on what's happening in the courtroom. 559 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 5: Now. 560 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: There was just a motion for a mistrial by the 561 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:26,479 Speaker 1: defense because someone destroyed fingerprint cards that relate to kid 562 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: Cuddy's arson and which, of course that would have killed 563 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: Cuddy if he had been in his Porsche right. So 564 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: catch this, Kennedy. In the car they find the receptacle, 565 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: which can be you know, on a jar a bottle. 566 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of Molotov cases and who else 567 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: could it be. It has to be Diddy because it 568 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: was a designer scarf, a designer scarf like an air 569 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: may if that's the right pronunciation, like an air ma 570 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: scarf was used as a wick for a Molotov Hello. 571 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 3: That is no that has Diddy all over it. But also, 572 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: Cassie and Diddy weren't an on again, off again relationship 573 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 3: throughout a lot of their tumultuous union. And during one 574 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: of those off periods, she was allegedly seeing Kid cutting 575 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: and did. He found out about it and absolutely lost 576 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 3: his mind because anyone and hip hop, especially someone who 577 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 3: was more handsome and taller than him, was absolutely seen 578 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 3: as an enemy, anyone who was a threat to his 579 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 3: total control over Cassie. So when he found out that 580 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 3: she and Scott had been talking, he lost his mind 581 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 3: and he told her, he told her that he was 582 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 3: going to kill her and Kid Cutty and that he 583 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 3: was going to blow up his car. So she has 584 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 3: already testified to that. Obviously, the relationship was explosive, and 585 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: you know, if these accounts are to be believed, Diddy 586 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: was the whip that was lit, and you know, and 587 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 3: scendiary device was placed in his car, and who knows 588 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 3: if it was meant to kill him, but was absolutely 589 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 3: sent meant to send a message that you are supposed 590 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: to stay away from Cassie, who was my property, and 591 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 3: next time is going to be much worse and it 592 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 3: will be deadly. And you know, we heard some pretty 593 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 3: damning testimony from Ditty's former assistant, Capricorn Clark, and she 594 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 3: she talked about how he was violent, he was threatening, 595 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: her work hours were absolutely impossible, how she was kidnapped 596 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: at some point. She was also forced to testify not testify. 597 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 3: She was forced to undergo a light detector test because 598 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: he accused her of stealing some of his expensive diamond jewelry. 599 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 3: So you know, the things that she said on the 600 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 3: stand yesterday, I don't think bode well for Didty. But 601 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 3: you know, this is just as a civilian observer. I've 602 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 3: met Ditty many times. It's starting back in the early 603 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 3: nineties when he was just a record executive with an 604 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 3: incredible year for talent, and then of course he became 605 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 3: a hip hop performer in his own right and then 606 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 3: an entrepreneur. And I had met him several times throughout 607 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 3: his career, several iterations, and you know, there were always 608 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 3: rumors that he would make vicious threats against people, and 609 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 3: that was one of the reasons that so many people 610 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,240 Speaker 3: didn't come forward earlier, is they were they were fearful 611 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 3: for their lives, They were feel fearful for their safety. 612 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: He obviously Hey Kennedy, yes, you really got my attention 613 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: when you said kid Cuddy is taller than Seawan Comes. 614 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: What does coms have a Napoleon complex? Why can't I 615 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: think he does? 616 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he does. 617 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 5: How short is he shortened me? 618 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: I'm five nine so and maybe he was wearing lips 619 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 3: I'm not sure, or maybe he needed some or little 620 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 3: beetle boots. 621 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: You know. Kennedy, you also point out, first, let me 622 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: ask you about the claims many people are making that 623 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: the state just hasn't proven coercion or force and you 624 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: and I agree with you completely on this point out 625 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: all she endured free calls that go for days on 626 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: end repeat UTI's so bad that the antibiotics wouldn't even 627 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: work anymore, developing mouth sores from hours and hours of 628 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: oral sex with male sex workers, gastric issue, stomach issues 629 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: because of all of the drugs, getting a male sex 630 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: worker urinating in her mouth till she choked and then 631 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: when she complained, Combs comes over and joins in. What 632 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: idiot would think this was consensual? 633 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, he joined in the ppee party, and you know her, 634 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 3: she's she's talking about things in excruciating detail. And you know, 635 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 3: any of the female jurors on that panel have to 636 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 3: be listening to this going, oh my god, that is 637 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 3: absolutely inhumane, inexcusable treatment of another human being, particularly someone 638 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 3: you claim to care about, you know. And one of 639 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 3: the male prostitutes said that he beat her so badly 640 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 3: he could hear it in the other room. And when 641 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 3: Diddy stormed out, she jumped into the Jiggielow's lap for 642 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 3: you know, out of fear and for some kind of protection. 643 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 3: And the guy even said on the stand, I was 644 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 3: worried that Diddy was going to kill me. 645 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 5: You know who was I to stand up to him? 646 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 3: Because he's got bodyguards and a reputation and obviously is 647 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 3: willing to make good on some of those threats. If 648 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 3: in the middle of you know, a psychotically intimate moment, 649 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 3: he's taking his girlfriend in the other room to beat 650 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 3: the crap out of her, you know, he's he'll stop 651 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 3: at nothing to silence a male prostitute who could be 652 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 3: his entire reputational undoing a Lisa. 653 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: What do you make of him parading his family in 654 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: the courtroom for what I say as a production, as 655 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: a prop And what do you make of people that 656 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 1: still say Venturia state in it willingly? 657 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 3: I think that those people really need to educate themselves 658 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 3: about abusive relationships and the cycles of abuse. And a 659 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 3: person with so much access, money and power, and the 660 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 3: power he lorded over her in order to control her life. 661 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 3: I don't think it's as simple as that. You know, 662 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 3: she look at the bruises on her face, look at 663 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 3: the bruises on her body, Listen to her testimony, and 664 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 3: you know, any abuse survivor will tell you they do 665 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 3: try and extricate themselves from the relationships over and over 666 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 3: and over again. But that's why abusers are so terrifying, 667 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 3: because they're so good at again love bombing you and 668 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 3: winning back your trust, especially if part of the promise 669 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 3: is you know, stay with me, will live a wonderful life. 670 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 3: You're going to be a superstar. I'm the only one 671 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 3: who can make it happen. And if you leave me, 672 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 3: I have a laptop and a tablet full of videos 673 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 3: of you and compromising positions, and the world will know 674 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 3: that you are a worthless slut and you will never 675 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 3: record or perform music again. 676 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 6: Wow. 677 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: Okay, you need to get in that court. I mean 678 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: give that closing argument, Kennedy. This article that I love 679 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: so much that you wrote title Kennedy's furious reaction today 680 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: four of Diddy trial and the nauseating courtroom moment that 681 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 1: will be impossible for this jury to ignore. We remember 682 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: an American hero, Corporal Priscilla Pearson Pontaitula, PD Louisiana, passed 683 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: away in the line of duty, leaving behind husband turned 684 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: widow Larry and her wonderful children Lizzie, Brianna, Mjy, Bradley 685 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: and Lily. Sentenced to life without mom. American hero Corporal 686 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: Priscilla Pearson Fancy Grace signing off goodbye friend.