WEBVTT - Jada Goes Bald 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.720 Hey, fam I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:06.120 Red Table Talk podcast, all your favorite episodes from the 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:10.280 Facebook watch show in audio, produced by Westbrook Audio and 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.360 I Heart Radio. Please don't forget to rate and review 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:19.680 on Apple Podcasts. Hey guys, so check this out. I'm 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:23.000 here to surprise Jada. She out you're cutting her hair off? 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.680 Turning back. No, I got some questions for her. What 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.200 she thinks she's doing out here in these streets? Girl? 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.760 Why do you cut your hair off? Are you copying me? 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:34.640 What's really going on? So? I called Jada, she doesn't 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:36.839 answer my phone calls. I'll put a light on her 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.080 pros She says nothing. So now I'm on her house. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.240 So she don't want to talk about it. I'm gonna 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.720 take it to the Red Table Talk. I'm crashing the show. 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.440 Let's go. So hey R T T family, we took 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.000 a little break and now we're back with all new 0:00:51.080 --> 0:01:04.920 shows and I'm new at me. Good guys. That comes 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:13.920 in a pretty little lie. Beautiful. What an accomplishment for 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:20.000 the age generations so black women, I love it. And yes, 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:25.600 we also have some new hairstyles. Okay, you had issues 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:44.120 with your hair? Oh my goodness, you can't from Mommy's 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:48.960 bill come out of nowhere? You sure that? I was like, 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.640 what made you come here today? What is doing on? 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.200 I came through the day because you know I heard 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.720 you was talking about hair. This is good because I've 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.360 never got to ask you, like when you took your 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:08.800 hair off off? So what made you do that? During 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.079 that that pandemic time to beginning the pandemic, you know, 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:12.960 I was reading the Bible more and checking up from 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.919 the Tora and everything and everything is talking about know myself, 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.760 knows thself, and I just kept resonating with me, and 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.800 I'm like, Okay, when I hear things, I take it literal. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.239 So I got like a little body chart and I 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.080 started mapping out everything on my Bible, like, okay, here 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.000 go every scar, this is where it's happened right here. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.320 That's when I got bit by that spider. This when 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.679 I fell through the foul cabinet. And I'm like, I 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.239 don't know what's going on in mine. I don't know 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.079 what kind of scalp I got. I don't know what's 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.639 going on under this hair. And so I had to 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.440 go do reshoots for this movie that's about to come 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.560 out very soon they said I had to take my 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.359 braids out and you got to wear this wig. And 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.680 I'm like, man, I'm not gonna be doing no red 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.440 crop this no time soon. I don't have to take 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.959 these braids out. That's gonna take hours. I cut my 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.560 hair off. Everybody. That was when I was like, don't 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:01.799 do that. Oh my god, you're gonna be headed. Oh 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:09.960 my god, wait wait wait wait mm hmmm damn. First 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:11.959 of all, I when I felt my head, I was 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:17.320 I never felt that sensation in my life. Yeah, and 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.639 it was the most amazing feeling I ever felt in 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.520 my entire existence. And then I go outside and then 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:25.680 it started to rain and it felt like a million 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:30.560 kisses on my head. Like how did people react? Like? 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.400 People was acting weird? Why would you do this? Oh, 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.840 she's losing her mind? What are you going through? Are 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:43.800 you okay? It's great have have such a different attachment 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.320 to their hair. Yeah, did you have any revelations? Well, 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:52.320 I realized I'm a meeting. It's very neat. I realized 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:56.400 that my scalp is like stopped meeting, like it's a 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.240 little roly poly back there, like a lot of rifles 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.760 and this, And when my man was like, oh, I 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:03.760 couldn't believe you did this. I said, you wanna greez? 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:12.880 My said, I grease it. I'm like, sound good. Okay, 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.760 So first obviously I was concerned. I was concerned. I 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:17.360 was like, it's gonna be talking next. And he was 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.360 like he looked at it. I called him on the 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.440 face and he looked. He said, you're beautiful. You look 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:26.440 so beautiful. Look at your face. You're gorgeous. I can 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.120 see you, I can see all of you. And I 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:37.960 was like, that pretty fat. You gonna get it. I'm 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:44.040 gonna put my ball head on y'all. Ball head. Yeah. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.480 But he really appreciated. And when I came in, he 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.120 was rebbing. He was like, oh you do got to 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:51.400 meet here. Look at the sleezing it and everything. I 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.840 was like, like, it was great. It was great. And 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.560 I started to fall in love with myself. That wasn't 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.600 even an intention. Now I'm seeing myself, like seeing like 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.360 all my features, see my eyes. I just want to 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.840 go my nose, my cheeks, and it's like God did 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:15.599 a good job putting me together. Bread Um. Yeah, my mom. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.080 My mom was really upset. My mom was like, so 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.480 you're trying to be a man. Why don't you why 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.040 you cut all your hair off? Why would you do that? 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.240 You don't like yourself? And I said, Mama, I love myself. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.159 I'm trying to see what you made from the basics, 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.160 right without the here, without the accessory to wrong me. Mama, 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.000 we're trying to get to know me. And she was like, 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:37.760 I don't know why you would do that. It's just 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:41.000 you're not ugly, but you're not. It's not beautiful either, 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:48.719 And I said, I'm thinking, I totally understand that you're joyous, Mama. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.599 Cut your head hurt? You got that wheeze man, because 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.600 I'm gonna tell you, I haven't had a headache, no 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.160 scout paint things all that heats that no trauma. Yeah no, 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.480 he don't like it. It's like free. I think it's 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:06.800 so inspiring that your man was like so supportive of you, 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:08.720 because I feel like a lot of women feel like, 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.800 oh like I must keep my like they have to have. 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.320 You can go put the wig at the closet and 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:24.080 now all my wigs fit real good, look like like 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.719 growing out my What you want tonight? You want becky tonight? 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:30.960 Which I want with the gear hair I got you baby, 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:38.360 I got you pull that off. We have a and 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.160 it's so easy to just put it on and he 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.640 just brush it a little bag and she retty and 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:48.080 he's like, oh, who's this. I'm just a man. Yes, 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.520 it's a different woman, but I think it's interesting. Tif 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.000 we had similar journeys, Like even for me, it was 0:06:55.480 --> 0:07:00.160 a mixture of a spiritual hauling and also going girl girl. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.479 At some point, your hairline is gonna be back here, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:06.159 so we might as well just just just do it now. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.840 So it was like taking that leap, but so many 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.040 things I've discovered about myself. You look good. I love it. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.920 It's been such a freeing. I mean so much just 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.360 lifted off of me. That just called me. I was like, 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:24.560 the time is now this one. She's like, just do it, Mom, 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:26.520 just been acting. You've been wanting to do it for 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.440 so long. I was like, you would just look so 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:35.360 good with just completely It's gorgeous. Have you ever specifically 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.720 done your hair for a man. Yes? Yes, I have 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.640 definitely done things for me. I had this boyfriend and 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.320 he used to be like, Tiffany, you are so pretty, 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.200 but you know you would look so much better if 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.040 your hair went to your breast, you would be way 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:53.080 more beautiful. So me and my auntie got together and 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.040 we tried to put a weave in my head. Man, 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.640 it did not work out. I would look crazy. And 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.360 then when I got married, I was like trying to 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.680 press out my hair to decide what I wanted my 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.240 hair to look like. My ex husband said, I ain't 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:06.880 never been with a woman that ain't got no perm 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:08.320 I don't know how I'm gonna be married to you, 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.440 and you ain't got no prime. And so I permed 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.920 my hair and then like maybe three weeks into the marriage, 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.640 all my hair broke off. It all broke off, and 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.040 I was like, that's the last time I listened to 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.920 some man. And I'm laying down with like how to 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:25.840 do my hair? Now only listen to gave me and 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:31.880 about my hand telling me what to do with my hair. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.120 If you're inside of me, you gotta just roll with 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:39.000 a period, okay. Yeah. But if you if you ain't 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.560 inside of me, you got suggestions, I'm gonna listen because 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:46.000 you might be a profession you might know what to do, okay, Um, 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.280 but if you're inside of me, I don't I don't 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.640 want that. Yeah, Just so if you like it, or 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.319 you you with me? Or you're not. Where is that 0:08:55.520 --> 0:09:02.200 man now? I don't know, somewhere lonely man looking at 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.280 billboards and me like, damn it, I said, I told 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:06.520 us that leave a natural. I see him matter be 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.840 who she was. I don't know why I was trying 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.720 to change it. I should have said, let her be yourself. 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.200 I see over there. I'm happy with the rapper man 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.760 its music. Now she laid up with him. I can't 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:22.280 believe it. I'm doing my job with it. Will say, 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.280 when you cut your hair off? How did he respond? 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:31.040 Here sent me a picture of you and with your books. 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.959 He's the one who shaved my head. So he did it. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.000 So I guess she was like, yeah, here we go. Right, 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:42.880 that was fun. But we always thank you for coming everywhere. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:52.840 I'm so glad I haven't seen you in so long. Yeah, 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:57.959 thank you, guys. I love y'all, absolutely all right, thank you. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:03.600 That was a great sp Why. I just love Tiffany. 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:05.679 You just had such a light. You know, I was 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:11.480 there when you decided to shave your head. So tell 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.240 us what that was all about. I had been talking 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.800 about shaving my head for a while. We had discussed 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.480 it many times. It was just time. I was just 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:25.880 ready for just that kind of expression and release. I'm 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.480 so glad I did it. It was such a beautiful 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.439 experience and such a freedom. I feel more connected to 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.880 myself and to the Great Divine in a in a 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.920 very special way. And hairhold energy just wanting to just 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.640 release all of that stuff. So it was a huge, huge, 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.760 huge release. What was the exact moment where you were like, 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.800 this must happen Like, I was just like I'm over 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.599 it totally. I'm just like I'm over it. It was 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.880 that moment I was just like, I'm done. I'm just 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.079 done with the worry, I'm done with the care. I'm 0:10:55.160 --> 0:11:04.320 just done. Here we go. That's Miguel. I called. Miguel's like, Miguel, 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.680 you got your clippers. Yeah, like you got the clippers. 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:18.960 Meg He's like yeah, oh my goodness. This is lower 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:25.920 than Willows right now. Yeah. Yeah. So the RTT team says, 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:30.600 after I posted my shaved head, their favorite comment came 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:34.040 from a Facebook group who really owns their power, called 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.400 the Bald Boss Movement. I have not seen this or 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.760 heard about it, but I'm about to hear about it 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.440 right now. They wrote that they want me to join 0:11:42.559 --> 0:12:04.480 their club? Down down, so many beautiful women you guys. Wow, 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:10.240 Oh my god, I got tears of my eyes. Oh man, wow, 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:15.240 hey you beautiase. Oh wow, the club. I want to 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.480 we have to join. We gotta join. We gott to 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.320 join the movie. They look beautiful. Now I hear you're 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:26.120 the founder of the bald boss movement. Yes, I don't 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.400 welcome to the club. What is your mission? Well, in 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.640 a world where beauty is to determine why what grows 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.120 on your scalt, whe are here to spread the love 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.600 from one body to the next and reinforced it. Here. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.160 It's like an accessory. Whether you have it or not, 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:46.720 it doesn't determine your beauty or your I love that. Okay, 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:51.360 where is Jamie here? I am on this, Hey, Jamie, 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.760 can you tell us what a bald boss is? Well, 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:59.599 a bald boss is someone who owns their baldness, just 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:03.720 like a boss owns their business. A bald boss owns 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:10.840 their baldness. Yeah, where's Tammy? That's your story. I am 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.040 bowed by choice. I have been bawed by choice for 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:18.120 eight years, and I'm going to tell you eight years ago, 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:23.640 I feel like I was born. I feel like this 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:29.520 is Tammy straight, No chase you. I was one of 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.839 those people. I had hair. I was always concerned, and 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.120 I would go on vacation and what do I do? 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:39.720 And and one day I literally called my daughter downstairs, 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.280 she was sixteen. I said, can you shave my head? 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.240 And she said, Mom, you are the baddest you know what? 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:52.640 I know? I love that and I have been happy 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.400 ever since. I hear that you guys are gonna stick 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.559 around and you're gonna be our first our T T 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:06.400 studio audience to me saying I'm so glad. That's awesome. 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.280 And I see we got some young people. Look at 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:14.839 this little baby girl right here. Yes, women have so 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.719 much anxiety about their hair, whether you're black, white, Asian, like, 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.200 I've had all kinds of women just tripping on hair. Yeah. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:27.120 I just remember waking up, and I remember so keenly 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.000 because it happened to me countless amount of times. I 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:31.640 would wake up and I would look at myself in 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.720 the mirror and my hair would look like this. It 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.520 would literally just be like that, and I would look 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.320 at myself and just be like oh, and it would 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.200 be so hard, and every time I would try to 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.200 put something, it would like make a sound, and I 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.440 was just like, oh my gosh, like and that was 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.880 every morning. It just always felt just like a challenge 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.560 or a chore. That's what it felt like, a chore um. 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.560 And I just didn't feel beautiful, like I just felt 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.640 like I looked like a troll doll. Like that's kind 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:02.800 of how like those little those little garbage pale their hair, Like, 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.280 that's how I felt like, I, you have a beautiful 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.080 head of hair. And I did not like that. She 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:11.240 didn't like it. I wanted the flow. I wanted the flow. 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.280 I wanted the over the shoulder. I can't tell you 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:19.320 times I was told, point blank out of somebody's mouth, 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.520 oh no, boys don't like girls with hair like that, 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:24.920 Like they're just not gonna like you, Like you just 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.240 need to figure out something else. And so that was 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.760 just like wow, And you you found out that that 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.240 was a lot obviously, you found out that was a 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.720 lie I did. It was a lot of pain. Tell 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.680 us how hair for you today can still be difficult. 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.640 Let me just give you an idea. There was a 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:48.720 very high fashion, very high fashion photo shoot, and all 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.560 of the white models we're getting their hair done, and 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.040 I all had somebody, the person that was supposed to 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:58.640 come do my hair came, looked at it and tried 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.760 to do something to it, try to touch it. I 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.000 could tell they were extremely perturbed. I could tell that 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.680 they were just like, I don't know what I'm doing. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.920 That anxiety looking at them in the mirror, not knowing 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.120 what to do with my head made me feel like 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.320 I'm going to take the reins on this. So I 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.000 basically did my own hair for that really high fashion 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:22.680 shoe that should never be happening. Even at another high 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.960 fashion shoe for a completely different thing. I was in 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:26.960 the room and they straight upset, is her hair just 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.960 a little too difficult to do that specific thing. I've 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.080 been there too, whether it was in movies, whether it 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:37.040 was in wigs. Well, they pat me in some crazy 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:41.600 wigs for sure, where people didn't really know enough about 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.240 black hairs, you know, how to make wigs and blah 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.080 blah blah blah what the wigs should look like and 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.720 all that kind of stuff. This was a rough world. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.920 This this, this, this, this, this this this even you 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.240 even look like, yeah, this was rough because of the 0:16:56.360 --> 0:17:00.200 woman who made this wig. Just she didn't miss the mark. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.400 She missed the mark. She thought that the roots should 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.960 be um not smoothed, but the hair should be straight. 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.840 And she was like, well, you know, usually for black women, 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.280 you you don't have straightened roots. And I said, oh, no, 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.200 we do me either straighten it with the hot comba 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.400 with permit. But she didn't believe me. So she made 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.200 it with roots that weren't straight, but the hair was. 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.879 It was a very and I thought that sounds a 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:32.600 little like not best intentions either. Well, that was the 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:36.440 last time I didn't have my own hairstyle exactly. I 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.919 used to have really long hair and it just popped 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.520 up on my Facebook memory recently and I had all 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:45.000 this hair and my hair was down my back and 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:50.200 I looked at that, and I remember that at times 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:58.280 I felt that particularly men were more attracted to my hair, 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.159 like that's the first thing that they would see in me. 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.760 It's my home versus me. Cutting your hair kind of 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:10.800 releases all that. Yeah, and there's something with black men 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.160 that they feel like you need to have long hair. 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:18.600 I just wonder what that's about. It's like standard of beauty, 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:23.960 that's the standards because brainwashed to believe that it's funny. 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:28.080 Because men did comment on my Instagram page. I'm sure 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:33.600 they did. I'm sure someone like, what the hell what 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.680 are you doing? She was prettier with her long get 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.480 out of the great thing about it is like, as 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.600 a woman, as you get older, when you start to 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:46.960 take your power back and everything you do is for you. Yes, 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.160 I'm about to turn I'm about to be real grown, 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.920 I'm about to try empty and I don't have time. 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.359 I don't have time. I really don't. It's like I 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:00.360 only have time to care for myself and love for myself, 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.639 for me and who I want to be, not who 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.160 people want to see me as, not for how people 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.119 think I should be. All that night I did again. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:13.840 I did the first half of my life, you know, 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.720 immersed in all of that. This next half get with 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.080 it because I'm just about to just be with it, okay, 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.040 straight up, Like I don't have time, And part of 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:29.959 you know, me just shaving my head was marking that moment. 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.880 I think hair is just an extension of the deeply 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:39.760 ingrained belief that women have been indoctrinated with that we 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.560 just aren't enough without looking a certain way. And the 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:45.560 thing about it is is that we're so much more 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.480 than how we look. Exactly, and that's where this all comes. 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.640 That all comes back to, you know, and really having 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.840 the confidence as a woman to know that. And if 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.359 you decide you want to have long hair, if you 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.840 decide you want to wear we fo, you exactly go 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.760 for it. But not because you feel like you need 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.280 to do that to live up to a standard or 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:10.600 to be loved, or to be or except to assimilate 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:17.720 into Let me tell yes. I was talking to my 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.640 friend Jimmy Iveen the other day and he says something 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.320 really interesting. He was like, you know what, I'm done 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:27.520 with Jada convincing people. That's what he said to me. 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:29.200 And I said, you know what, Jimmy, I'm about to 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.320 steal all that because I'm done with that too. I'm 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:36.720 done with convincing people. I just feel like that women 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:40.480 just taking back our power in any form that you 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:44.680 need to to just be done with the convincing, the 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.920 convincing of people that you're smart enough, you're convincing people, 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:52.960 you're pretty enough, convincing people that you're worthy exactly. You know, 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:58.080 for me, coming into the last four years for me 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:02.280 has really been about that transformation of just coming to 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:05.320 the self and having acceptance for the self and having 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:08.840 to go through many different kind of personal journeys to 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:13.720 come to that place of really grounding myself in that understanding. 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.399 That's been the most beautiful part about almost turning fifty, 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:21.000 you know, because it's really I'm at the f fifty stage, 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:27.360 you know, because you've earned it. I learned it at them. 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:31.680 Get into it, a bitch, just fifty, get into it. 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:40.479 Yeah that far right there. We've had quite a hair journey, 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:44.000 too much. And this young woman that we're about to 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:45.920 bring out has had quite a hair journey as well. 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:52.000 You know her from HBO's hit Insecure. Emmy nominated Yvonne 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.359 Orgy says there was a time she was warned if 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.280 she didn't have sexy hair, she might not make it 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:05.280 in Hollywood. We know all about that. Look at y'all 0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:15.399 looking beautiful. Just yes, this is our bad boss. I 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:22.040 was actually or whatever. I love it. So you shaved 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:26.160 your head during quarantine I did. I was so impressed 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:30.159 for my comedy special and it was that blush you 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:32.480 thank you, and you know when you're at home, like 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:35.240 the hair and makeup is not coming. I was raised 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:38.560 by Nigerians. We don't really do hair care. We do 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:42.920 put the Wigne, put the Brady, you know anything. I'm like, 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.200 just cover the hair when you're glad. Squad is not coming. 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.440 It's just like my roots are not blending with whatever 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:51.720 this wig situation is supposed to be. I was looking 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:53.960 like frost to the clown from the Simpsons because it 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:56.639 was like growing out on the side. One day, I 0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:58.399 was just like, you know what, let's go ahead and 0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:01.600 make this thing happen. So did that give you any 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.680 sort of like anxiety at all? The trauma for me 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:08.359 came when we're gonna be honest at the table. Yeah. 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.640 When I lived in Harlem. That was the first time 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:17.520 I went natural. It was like he said, I'm I'm like, 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:20.800 look at me. But then I was like, all right, 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:22.760 I'm going to make the move to l A. L 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:26.320 A did not love. It was like I was like, 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.280 all right, I'm gonna get a weave. I'm gonna get 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.159 so name because that's what you do in l A. 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:34.720 This show was so tight. It was so like bubbling. 0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.840 My scot was bubbling. I had a headache every night. 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.880 I finally took it off, but the damage was done, 0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:47.240 scarring alopecia and devastated my poor Scop was like, boo, 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.960 what is you doing? And so I took it. I 0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:52.000 got rid of it, but my hair fell out all 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.000 the things, and so then I went natural for a 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:55.600 while because I was also broke, because you know, in 0:23:55.760 --> 0:24:01.320 order to have so Trney I'll never forget. When I 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:03.520 booked in Secure and I put a weave in again, 0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:07.000 I put the weave in, dudes were like, oh that's 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.080 sho bo okay, we see you, and I was so mad, 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:13.159 so mad. I hated that because I was like, oh, 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:15.400 I don't want to be attached to this. I want 0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:18.480 the guy who was like, you s it up, like actually, 0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:20.040 like the guy who's like, I like your natural hair, 0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.440 but like play with it, you know. So when I 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:24.840 cut it in Quarantine, easy to hit me up and 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:27.240 was like, girl, yeah, we love that so much. That's 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:31.560 gonna be part of season five. You're gonna be so sharp. 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:34.399 The very first time I come out here and my 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:36.960 mom was like, hey, is it woman's beauty? So what 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:40.000 what what are you doing? And I'm like, I'm living 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.560 my life like I'm not changed with its hair. It'll grow, 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:44.480 We'll figure it out. And it's so funny. When I 0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:47.639