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Speaker 1: here to surprise Jada. She out you're cutting her hair off?
Speaker 1: Turning back. No, I got some questions for her. What
Speaker 1: she thinks she's doing out here in these streets? Girl?
Speaker 1: Why do you cut your hair off? Are you copying me?
Speaker 1: What's really going on? So? I called Jada, she doesn't
Speaker 1: answer my phone calls. I'll put a light on her
Speaker 1: pros She says nothing. So now I'm on her house.
Speaker 1: So she don't want to talk about it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take it to the Red Table Talk. I'm crashing the show.
Speaker 1: Let's go. So hey R T T family, we took
Speaker 1: a little break and now we're back with all new
Speaker 1: shows and I'm new at me. Good guys. That comes
Speaker 1: in a pretty little lie. Beautiful. What an accomplishment for
Speaker 1: the age generations so black women, I love it. And yes,
Speaker 1: we also have some new hairstyles. Okay, you had issues
Speaker 1: with your hair? Oh my goodness, you can't from Mommy's
Speaker 1: bill come out of nowhere? You sure that? I was like,
Speaker 1: what made you come here today? What is doing on?
Speaker 1: I came through the day because you know I heard
Speaker 1: you was talking about hair. This is good because I've
Speaker 1: never got to ask you, like when you took your
Speaker 1: hair off off? So what made you do that? During
Speaker 1: that that pandemic time to beginning the pandemic, you know,
Speaker 1: I was reading the Bible more and checking up from
Speaker 1: the Tora and everything and everything is talking about know myself,
Speaker 1: knows thself, and I just kept resonating with me, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, when I hear things, I take it literal.
Speaker 1: So I got like a little body chart and I
Speaker 1: started mapping out everything on my Bible, like, okay, here
Speaker 1: go every scar, this is where it's happened right here.
Speaker 1: That's when I got bit by that spider. This when
Speaker 1: I fell through the foul cabinet. And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on in mine. I don't know
Speaker 1: what kind of scalp I got. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on under this hair. And so I had to
Speaker 1: go do reshoots for this movie that's about to come
Speaker 1: out very soon they said I had to take my
Speaker 1: braids out and you got to wear this wig. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm not gonna be doing no red
Speaker 1: crop this no time soon. I don't have to take
Speaker 1: these braids out. That's gonna take hours. I cut my
Speaker 1: hair off. Everybody. That was when I was like, don't
Speaker 1: do that. Oh my god, you're gonna be headed. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, wait wait wait wait mm hmmm damn. First
Speaker 1: of all, I when I felt my head, I was
Speaker 1: I never felt that sensation in my life. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it was the most amazing feeling I ever felt in
Speaker 1: my entire existence. And then I go outside and then
Speaker 1: it started to rain and it felt like a million
Speaker 1: kisses on my head. Like how did people react? Like?
Speaker 1: People was acting weird? Why would you do this? Oh,
Speaker 1: she's losing her mind? What are you going through? Are
Speaker 1: you okay? It's great have have such a different attachment
Speaker 1: to their hair. Yeah, did you have any revelations? Well,
Speaker 1: I realized I'm a meeting. It's very neat. I realized
Speaker 1: that my scalp is like stopped meeting, like it's a
Speaker 1: little roly poly back there, like a lot of rifles
Speaker 1: and this, And when my man was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe you did this. I said, you wanna greez?
Speaker 1: My said, I grease it. I'm like, sound good. Okay,
Speaker 1: So first obviously I was concerned. I was concerned. I
Speaker 1: was like, it's gonna be talking next. And he was
Speaker 1: like he looked at it. I called him on the
Speaker 1: face and he looked. He said, you're beautiful. You look
Speaker 1: so beautiful. Look at your face. You're gorgeous. I can
Speaker 1: see you, I can see all of you. And I
Speaker 1: was like, that pretty fat. You gonna get it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put my ball head on y'all. Ball head. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But he really appreciated. And when I came in, he
Speaker 1: was rebbing. He was like, oh you do got to
Speaker 1: meet here. Look at the sleezing it and everything. I
Speaker 1: was like, like, it was great. It was great. And
Speaker 1: I started to fall in love with myself. That wasn't
Speaker 1: even an intention. Now I'm seeing myself, like seeing like
Speaker 1: all my features, see my eyes. I just want to
Speaker 1: go my nose, my cheeks, and it's like God did
Speaker 1: a good job putting me together. Bread Um. Yeah, my mom.
Speaker 1: My mom was really upset. My mom was like, so
Speaker 1: you're trying to be a man. Why don't you why
Speaker 1: you cut all your hair off? Why would you do that?
Speaker 1: You don't like yourself? And I said, Mama, I love myself.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see what you made from the basics,
Speaker 1: right without the here, without the accessory to wrong me. Mama,
Speaker 1: we're trying to get to know me. And she was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why you would do that. It's just
Speaker 1: you're not ugly, but you're not. It's not beautiful either,
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm thinking, I totally understand that you're joyous, Mama.
Speaker 1: Cut your head hurt? You got that wheeze man, because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, I haven't had a headache, no
Speaker 1: scout paint things all that heats that no trauma. Yeah no,
Speaker 1: he don't like it. It's like free. I think it's
Speaker 1: so inspiring that your man was like so supportive of you,
Speaker 1: because I feel like a lot of women feel like,
Speaker 1: oh like I must keep my like they have to have.
Speaker 1: You can go put the wig at the closet and
Speaker 1: now all my wigs fit real good, look like like
Speaker 1: growing out my What you want tonight? You want becky tonight?
Speaker 1: Which I want with the gear hair I got you baby,
Speaker 1: I got you pull that off. We have a and
Speaker 1: it's so easy to just put it on and he
Speaker 1: just brush it a little bag and she retty and
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, who's this. I'm just a man. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a different woman, but I think it's interesting. Tif
Speaker 1: we had similar journeys, Like even for me, it was
Speaker 1: a mixture of a spiritual hauling and also going girl girl.
Speaker 1: At some point, your hairline is gonna be back here,
Speaker 1: so we might as well just just just do it now.
Speaker 1: So it was like taking that leap, but so many
Speaker 1: things I've discovered about myself. You look good. I love it.
Speaker 1: It's been such a freeing. I mean so much just
Speaker 1: lifted off of me. That just called me. I was like,
Speaker 1: the time is now this one. She's like, just do it, Mom,
Speaker 1: just been acting. You've been wanting to do it for
Speaker 1: so long. I was like, you would just look so
Speaker 1: good with just completely It's gorgeous. Have you ever specifically
Speaker 1: done your hair for a man. Yes? Yes, I have
Speaker 1: definitely done things for me. I had this boyfriend and
Speaker 1: he used to be like, Tiffany, you are so pretty,
Speaker 1: but you know you would look so much better if
Speaker 1: your hair went to your breast, you would be way
Speaker 1: more beautiful. So me and my auntie got together and
Speaker 1: we tried to put a weave in my head. Man,
Speaker 1: it did not work out. I would look crazy. And
Speaker 1: then when I got married, I was like trying to
Speaker 1: press out my hair to decide what I wanted my
Speaker 1: hair to look like. My ex husband said, I ain't
Speaker 1: never been with a woman that ain't got no perm
Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm gonna be married to you,
Speaker 1: and you ain't got no prime. And so I permed
Speaker 1: my hair and then like maybe three weeks into the marriage,
Speaker 1: all my hair broke off. It all broke off, and
Speaker 1: I was like, that's the last time I listened to
Speaker 1: some man. And I'm laying down with like how to
Speaker 1: do my hair? Now only listen to gave me and
Speaker 1: about my hand telling me what to do with my hair.
Speaker 1: If you're inside of me, you gotta just roll with
Speaker 1: a period, okay. Yeah. But if you if you ain't
Speaker 1: inside of me, you got suggestions, I'm gonna listen because
Speaker 1: you might be a profession you might know what to do, okay, Um,
Speaker 1: but if you're inside of me, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: want that. Yeah, Just so if you like it, or
Speaker 1: you you with me? Or you're not. Where is that
Speaker 1: man now? I don't know, somewhere lonely man looking at
Speaker 1: billboards and me like, damn it, I said, I told
Speaker 1: us that leave a natural. I see him matter be
Speaker 1: who she was. I don't know why I was trying
Speaker 1: to change it. I should have said, let her be yourself.
Speaker 1: I see over there. I'm happy with the rapper man
Speaker 1: its music. Now she laid up with him. I can't
Speaker 1: believe it. I'm doing my job with it. Will say,
Speaker 1: when you cut your hair off? How did he respond?
Speaker 1: Here sent me a picture of you and with your books.
Speaker 1: He's the one who shaved my head. So he did it.
Speaker 1: So I guess she was like, yeah, here we go. Right,
Speaker 1: that was fun. But we always thank you for coming everywhere.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I haven't seen you in so long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, guys. I love y'all, absolutely all right, thank you.
Speaker 1: That was a great sp Why. I just love Tiffany.
Speaker 1: You just had such a light. You know, I was
Speaker 1: there when you decided to shave your head. So tell
Speaker 1: us what that was all about. I had been talking
Speaker 1: about shaving my head for a while. We had discussed
Speaker 1: it many times. It was just time. I was just
Speaker 1: ready for just that kind of expression and release. I'm
Speaker 1: so glad I did it. It was such a beautiful
Speaker 1: experience and such a freedom. I feel more connected to
Speaker 1: myself and to the Great Divine in a in a
Speaker 1: very special way. And hairhold energy just wanting to just
Speaker 1: release all of that stuff. So it was a huge, huge,
Speaker 1: huge release. What was the exact moment where you were like,
Speaker 1: this must happen Like, I was just like I'm over
Speaker 1: it totally. I'm just like I'm over it. It was
Speaker 1: that moment I was just like, I'm done. I'm just
Speaker 1: done with the worry, I'm done with the care. I'm
Speaker 1: just done. Here we go. That's Miguel. I called. Miguel's like, Miguel,
Speaker 1: you got your clippers. Yeah, like you got the clippers.
Speaker 1: Meg He's like yeah, oh my goodness. This is lower
Speaker 1: than Willows right now. Yeah. Yeah. So the RTT team says,
Speaker 1: after I posted my shaved head, their favorite comment came
Speaker 1: from a Facebook group who really owns their power, called
Speaker 1: the Bald Boss Movement. I have not seen this or
Speaker 1: heard about it, but I'm about to hear about it
Speaker 1: right now. They wrote that they want me to join
Speaker 1: their club? Down down, so many beautiful women you guys. Wow,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I got tears of my eyes. Oh man, wow,
Speaker 1: hey you beautiase. Oh wow, the club. I want to
Speaker 1: we have to join. We gotta join. We gott to
Speaker 1: join the movie. They look beautiful. Now I hear you're
Speaker 1: the founder of the bald boss movement. Yes, I don't
Speaker 1: welcome to the club. What is your mission? Well, in
Speaker 1: a world where beauty is to determine why what grows
Speaker 1: on your scalt, whe are here to spread the love
Speaker 1: from one body to the next and reinforced it. Here.
Speaker 1: It's like an accessory. Whether you have it or not,
Speaker 1: it doesn't determine your beauty or your I love that. Okay,
Speaker 1: where is Jamie here? I am on this, Hey, Jamie,
Speaker 1: can you tell us what a bald boss is? Well,
Speaker 1: a bald boss is someone who owns their baldness, just
Speaker 1: like a boss owns their business. A bald boss owns
Speaker 1: their baldness. Yeah, where's Tammy? That's your story. I am
Speaker 1: bowed by choice. I have been bawed by choice for
Speaker 1: eight years, and I'm going to tell you eight years ago,
Speaker 1: I feel like I was born. I feel like this
Speaker 1: is Tammy straight, No chase you. I was one of
Speaker 1: those people. I had hair. I was always concerned, and
Speaker 1: I would go on vacation and what do I do?
Speaker 1: And and one day I literally called my daughter downstairs,
Speaker 1: she was sixteen. I said, can you shave my head?
Speaker 1: And she said, Mom, you are the baddest you know what?
Speaker 1: I know? I love that and I have been happy
Speaker 1: ever since. I hear that you guys are gonna stick
Speaker 1: around and you're gonna be our first our T T
Speaker 1: studio audience to me saying I'm so glad. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: And I see we got some young people. Look at
Speaker 1: this little baby girl right here. Yes, women have so
Speaker 1: much anxiety about their hair, whether you're black, white, Asian, like,
Speaker 1: I've had all kinds of women just tripping on hair. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just remember waking up, and I remember so keenly
Speaker 1: because it happened to me countless amount of times. I
Speaker 1: would wake up and I would look at myself in
Speaker 1: the mirror and my hair would look like this. It
Speaker 1: would literally just be like that, and I would look
Speaker 1: at myself and just be like oh, and it would
Speaker 1: be so hard, and every time I would try to
Speaker 1: put something, it would like make a sound, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, oh my gosh, like and that was
Speaker 1: every morning. It just always felt just like a challenge
Speaker 1: or a chore. That's what it felt like, a chore um.
Speaker 1: And I just didn't feel beautiful, like I just felt
Speaker 1: like I looked like a troll doll. Like that's kind
Speaker 1: of how like those little those little garbage pale their hair, Like,
Speaker 1: that's how I felt like, I, you have a beautiful
Speaker 1: head of hair. And I did not like that. She
Speaker 1: didn't like it. I wanted the flow. I wanted the flow.
Speaker 1: I wanted the over the shoulder. I can't tell you
Speaker 1: times I was told, point blank out of somebody's mouth,
Speaker 1: oh no, boys don't like girls with hair like that,
Speaker 1: Like they're just not gonna like you, Like you just
Speaker 1: need to figure out something else. And so that was
Speaker 1: just like wow, And you you found out that that
Speaker 1: was a lot obviously, you found out that was a
Speaker 1: lie I did. It was a lot of pain. Tell
Speaker 1: us how hair for you today can still be difficult.
Speaker 1: Let me just give you an idea. There was a
Speaker 1: very high fashion, very high fashion photo shoot, and all
Speaker 1: of the white models we're getting their hair done, and
Speaker 1: I all had somebody, the person that was supposed to
Speaker 1: come do my hair came, looked at it and tried
Speaker 1: to do something to it, try to touch it. I
Speaker 1: could tell they were extremely perturbed. I could tell that
Speaker 1: they were just like, I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: That anxiety looking at them in the mirror, not knowing
Speaker 1: what to do with my head made me feel like
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the reins on this. So I
Speaker 1: basically did my own hair for that really high fashion
Speaker 1: shoe that should never be happening. Even at another high
Speaker 1: fashion shoe for a completely different thing. I was in
Speaker 1: the room and they straight upset, is her hair just
Speaker 1: a little too difficult to do that specific thing. I've
Speaker 1: been there too, whether it was in movies, whether it
Speaker 1: was in wigs. Well, they pat me in some crazy
Speaker 1: wigs for sure, where people didn't really know enough about
Speaker 1: black hairs, you know, how to make wigs and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah what the wigs should look like and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. This was a rough world.
Speaker 1: This this, this, this, this, this this this even you
Speaker 1: even look like, yeah, this was rough because of the
Speaker 1: woman who made this wig. Just she didn't miss the mark.
Speaker 1: She missed the mark. She thought that the roots should
Speaker 1: be um not smoothed, but the hair should be straight.
Speaker 1: And she was like, well, you know, usually for black women,
Speaker 1: you you don't have straightened roots. And I said, oh, no,
Speaker 1: we do me either straighten it with the hot comba
Speaker 1: with permit. But she didn't believe me. So she made
Speaker 1: it with roots that weren't straight, but the hair was.
Speaker 1: It was a very and I thought that sounds a
Speaker 1: little like not best intentions either. Well, that was the
Speaker 1: last time I didn't have my own hairstyle exactly. I
Speaker 1: used to have really long hair and it just popped
Speaker 1: up on my Facebook memory recently and I had all
Speaker 1: this hair and my hair was down my back and
Speaker 1: I looked at that, and I remember that at times
Speaker 1: I felt that particularly men were more attracted to my hair,
Speaker 1: like that's the first thing that they would see in me.
Speaker 1: It's my home versus me. Cutting your hair kind of
Speaker 1: releases all that. Yeah, and there's something with black men
Speaker 1: that they feel like you need to have long hair.
Speaker 1: I just wonder what that's about. It's like standard of beauty,
Speaker 1: that's the standards because brainwashed to believe that it's funny.
Speaker 1: Because men did comment on my Instagram page. I'm sure
Speaker 1: they did. I'm sure someone like, what the hell what
Speaker 1: are you doing? She was prettier with her long get
Speaker 1: out of the great thing about it is like, as
Speaker 1: a woman, as you get older, when you start to
Speaker 1: take your power back and everything you do is for you. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm about to turn I'm about to be real grown,
Speaker 1: I'm about to try empty and I don't have time.
Speaker 1: I don't have time. I really don't. It's like I
Speaker 1: only have time to care for myself and love for myself,
Speaker 1: for me and who I want to be, not who
Speaker 1: people want to see me as, not for how people
Speaker 1: think I should be. All that night I did again.
Speaker 1: I did the first half of my life, you know,
Speaker 1: immersed in all of that. This next half get with
Speaker 1: it because I'm just about to just be with it, okay,
Speaker 1: straight up, Like I don't have time, And part of
Speaker 1: you know, me just shaving my head was marking that moment.
Speaker 1: I think hair is just an extension of the deeply
Speaker 1: ingrained belief that women have been indoctrinated with that we
Speaker 1: just aren't enough without looking a certain way. And the
Speaker 1: thing about it is is that we're so much more
Speaker 1: than how we look. Exactly, and that's where this all comes.
Speaker 1: That all comes back to, you know, and really having
Speaker 1: the confidence as a woman to know that. And if
Speaker 1: you decide you want to have long hair, if you
Speaker 1: decide you want to wear we fo, you exactly go
Speaker 1: for it. But not because you feel like you need
Speaker 1: to do that to live up to a standard or
Speaker 1: to be loved, or to be or except to assimilate
Speaker 1: into Let me tell yes. I was talking to my
Speaker 1: friend Jimmy Iveen the other day and he says something
Speaker 1: really interesting. He was like, you know what, I'm done
Speaker 1: with Jada convincing people. That's what he said to me.
Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, Jimmy, I'm about to
Speaker 1: steal all that because I'm done with that too. I'm
Speaker 1: done with convincing people. I just feel like that women
Speaker 1: just taking back our power in any form that you
Speaker 1: need to to just be done with the convincing, the
Speaker 1: convincing of people that you're smart enough, you're convincing people,
Speaker 1: you're pretty enough, convincing people that you're worthy exactly. You know,
Speaker 1: for me, coming into the last four years for me
Speaker 1: has really been about that transformation of just coming to
Speaker 1: the self and having acceptance for the self and having
Speaker 1: to go through many different kind of personal journeys to
Speaker 1: come to that place of really grounding myself in that understanding.
Speaker 1: That's been the most beautiful part about almost turning fifty,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's really I'm at the f fifty stage,
Speaker 1: you know, because you've earned it. I learned it at them.
Speaker 1: Get into it, a bitch, just fifty, get into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah that far right there. We've had quite a hair journey,
Speaker 1: too much. And this young woman that we're about to
Speaker 1: bring out has had quite a hair journey as well.
Speaker 1: You know her from HBO's hit Insecure. Emmy nominated Yvonne
Speaker 1: Orgy says there was a time she was warned if
Speaker 1: she didn't have sexy hair, she might not make it
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. We know all about that. Look at y'all
Speaker 1: looking beautiful. Just yes, this is our bad boss. I
Speaker 1: was actually or whatever. I love it. So you shaved
Speaker 1: your head during quarantine I did. I was so impressed
Speaker 1: for my comedy special and it was that blush you
Speaker 1: thank you, and you know when you're at home, like
Speaker 1: the hair and makeup is not coming. I was raised
Speaker 1: by Nigerians. We don't really do hair care. We do
Speaker 1: put the Wigne, put the Brady, you know anything. I'm like,
Speaker 1: just cover the hair when you're glad. Squad is not coming.
Speaker 1: It's just like my roots are not blending with whatever
Speaker 1: this wig situation is supposed to be. I was looking
Speaker 1: like frost to the clown from the Simpsons because it
Speaker 1: was like growing out on the side. One day, I
Speaker 1: was just like, you know what, let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: make this thing happen. So did that give you any
Speaker 1: sort of like anxiety at all? The trauma for me
Speaker 1: came when we're gonna be honest at the table. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I lived in Harlem. That was the first time
Speaker 1: I went natural. It was like he said, I'm I'm like,
Speaker 1: look at me. But then I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm going to make the move to l A. L
Speaker 1: A did not love. It was like I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna get a weave. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: so name because that's what you do in l A.
Speaker 1: This show was so tight. It was so like bubbling.
Speaker 1: My scot was bubbling. I had a headache every night.
Speaker 1: I finally took it off, but the damage was done,
Speaker 1: scarring alopecia and devastated my poor Scop was like, boo,
Speaker 1: what is you doing? And so I took it. I
Speaker 1: got rid of it, but my hair fell out all
Speaker 1: the things, and so then I went natural for a
Speaker 1: while because I was also broke, because you know, in
Speaker 1: order to have so Trney I'll never forget. When I
Speaker 1: booked in Secure and I put a weave in again,
Speaker 1: I put the weave in, dudes were like, oh that's
Speaker 1: sho bo okay, we see you, and I was so mad,
Speaker 1: so mad. I hated that because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be attached to this. I want
Speaker 1: the guy who was like, you s it up, like actually,
Speaker 1: like the guy who's like, I like your natural hair,
Speaker 1: but like play with it, you know. So when I
Speaker 1: cut it in Quarantine, easy to hit me up and
Speaker 1: was like, girl, yeah, we love that so much. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be part of season five. You're gonna be so sharp.
Speaker 1: The very first time I come out here and my
Speaker 1: mom was like, hey, is it woman's beauty? So what
Speaker 1: what what are you doing? And I'm like, I'm living
Speaker 1: my life like I'm not changed with its hair. It'll grow,
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. And it's so funny. When I
Speaker 1: went back to Nigeria. The women in Nigeria like, ha,
Speaker 1: you're really doing this natural hair thing? Okay, alright because
Speaker 1: also like the men, they're like the long hair and
Speaker 1: the straight And so I was shocked going back home
Speaker 1: because every one thing, oh the mother Land, yes, and
Speaker 1: them girls was like okay, so do you want to
Speaker 1: make an appointment for long yuckie straight? And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm good. I have had many women in my life
Speaker 1: who have inspired me to go ball, but I gotta
Speaker 1: give props to my friend and trail blazer Sidra Smith.
Speaker 1: She shaved her head when she turned thirty and has
Speaker 1: never looked back and I adore her. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: her in years. I can't even believe you are here.
Speaker 1: You gotta say him like, high lady, move, that's our
Speaker 1: ball ball man over there. Look at Will, Look at you,
Speaker 1: Look at you. Oh my god. We were doing this
Speaker 1: show about making the choice to be ball and not
Speaker 1: said I am tripping my girls. Sidro was bald before
Speaker 1: ball was the thing to be, okay, making it a
Speaker 1: second thirty thirty, I'm fifty where I'm sad and people
Speaker 1: thought I was crazy, Like are you joining some type
Speaker 1: of cold People thought I was tripping. What made you
Speaker 1: doing a thirty? My entire life? I had a weeping yeah.
Speaker 1: I wanted to reintroduce myself to myself, Like literally, I
Speaker 1: didn't know what I looked like, and I just was like,
Speaker 1: who are you? And as a birthday give to myself,
Speaker 1: I shaved my head. Listen, this is what's crazy is
Speaker 1: that when I shaved my head, I had to fix
Speaker 1: my will. Jade. In my will, I wrote, when I die,
Speaker 1: make sure I have a freshman. Can you swear to God?
Speaker 1: You had to change I had to change my will.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine? It was more about the hair than anything.
Speaker 1: That's how obsessed I was about my hair, and just
Speaker 1: so insecure, you know, and just feeling like the only
Speaker 1: way I would look pretty as with hair, and if
Speaker 1: I died, I have to have my hair. When you
Speaker 1: cut your hair, I just thought it was so bold
Speaker 1: and so amazing. Listen, it was so I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: grounded and insecurity. When I shaved my head, it was
Speaker 1: almost like every piece of insecurity I had was gone.
Speaker 1: I didn't care about nothing, like I felt so bold
Speaker 1: and so confident. That's how I felt. It was life
Speaker 1: changing for me. Well, how does your friends respond to
Speaker 1: your bald head, like do they think? Like, wh think
Speaker 1: I'm crazy? Anyway? I thinking for young women because a
Speaker 1: lot of young women feel like they need all that.
Speaker 1: It's like, good for you. So when I revealed this
Speaker 1: photo of my newly bald head, we heard from many,
Speaker 1: many women who want to shave it all off, but
Speaker 1: until now have been too afraid. Three of them are
Speaker 1: here and say they are ready to be bald and
Speaker 1: gold baldy all right. It takes a lot of curage
Speaker 1: to do this, so we're gonna be with them every
Speaker 1: step of the way. Taren Ali and June he Clad,
Speaker 1: You guys are taking the dive today. So what made
Speaker 1: you want to shave? There's been a stigma amongst my
Speaker 1: family and myself for years since I was a little kid,
Speaker 1: basically that if you're a girl, you have to have
Speaker 1: long hair and you are not allowed to cut it.
Speaker 1: You should not cut it. And I've been that way
Speaker 1: with myself with other women as well. If they say
Speaker 1: they're going to cut their hair, I'm like, no, you're
Speaker 1: not cutting your hair. I'm gonna kick your butt if
Speaker 1: you're gonna cut your hair. I'm mainly just excited to
Speaker 1: break the stigma and now like, for the first time
Speaker 1: in my life, I'm like, it's just hair, Na, It's awesome, awesome,
Speaker 1: and what about you. Ali, Okay, I've been growing my
Speaker 1: hair for the last three years to donate it for
Speaker 1: kids with hair loss. That's beautiful. So I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: how can I maximize this donation? And then here comes
Speaker 1: ms Jada, So I was like, I could do that.
Speaker 1: I could be that. I've got two daughters and a son,
Speaker 1: and it's important to me to show them that what's
Speaker 1: on the outside is not what matters most. They don't
Speaker 1: have to be weighed down by the opinions of others,
Speaker 1: and that's what matters to me. That's a beautiful lesson.
Speaker 1: That's gorgeous. And what about you. I came out of
Speaker 1: a a tenure relationship. I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm so late on the dating app game, and so
Speaker 1: I downloaded several apps and I was stressed out trying
Speaker 1: to find the perfect picture and the description of myself.
Speaker 1: And then I also started feeling superficial looking at others,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I haven't had
Speaker 1: this time to date myself. Let it go. So that's
Speaker 1: the journey I love that the journey of self discovery,
Speaker 1: self discovery and like shutting composting old beliefs and what
Speaker 1: I think is attractive to just glow from the inside
Speaker 1: sounds very similar to mine, just blowing the inside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. I'm so glad that we're here to
Speaker 1: be able to take this journey with you. Well, well,
Speaker 1: here we go, all right you guys, ready, ready, super ready, right, ready,
Speaker 1: all right, ladies, let's go by hair. It's been real Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go make it happen it. Oh, yes, how are
Speaker 1: you so? For the first time ever, we got our
Speaker 1: red table talk Barbara Shot. I'm very excited. We've got
Speaker 1: our barber's here, Stacy knowing you for a long time
Speaker 1: by time and nominated Barbara Supreme. Stacy. Give you some
Speaker 1: folks you don't work with, Stacy Morris better known as
Speaker 1: Stacy Cuts, Eddie Murphy, Will Smith, Martin Lawrence, Anthony Anderson,
Speaker 1: to name a few, just to name a few. We're
Speaker 1: gonna make you a tag barbar gud and you. I'm
Speaker 1: Lindsay Rogers, just endised up on Insecure final season. I'm
Speaker 1: currently working on the host Party remail. Okay, my name
Speaker 1: is Tommy Kevin, and I am a award winning competitive barber. Okay,
Speaker 1: working on Blackish with the barber. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 1: Got our black female barb is suf in the house.
Speaker 1: I love that. Let me have our beautiful, beautiful, beautiful
Speaker 1: women's hand, and I'm ready to take the deep die.
Speaker 1: The great thing is that you guys have such beautiful faces.
Speaker 1: Where actually going to be able to really really see you? All? Right?
Speaker 1: Here we go. Oh I hate a bud a bud o.
Speaker 1: My goodness. She's the first. She's the first who says,
Speaker 1: oh you're ready, My good god, come on, Joe, come on, Joe.
Speaker 1: You love it. You're giving me monks. I can't, I can't.
Speaker 1: I love it. This is spectacular. I'm this is fly,
Speaker 1: this is lie. Thank you, O god, you a short
Speaker 1: hair right now by it. I'm just watching you guys,
Speaker 1: and it's just everybody just looks so amazing. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: in like your own so specific way. Yes, it's such
Speaker 1: a it's such a flavor like same same hairstyle, different flavors.
Speaker 1: You know, It's true. You can give everybody to rescue.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I love that. Oh now everyone's getting
Speaker 1: the line. Okay, So Alle's ready. All right, it comes cool?
Speaker 1: Last Alley you good? Are you sure? That sweet girl?
Speaker 1: Well done? Well done. The next up is the husband. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's longer than mine, for like, cover's like it feels
Speaker 1: different for sure. Oh, June, you're gonna be really happy.
Speaker 1: You're going to be extremely happy. Are you ready? Mm hmmm?
Speaker 1: Can close my answers? Okay, okay, can you see all
Speaker 1: of the Okay, I'm so proud of you. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, you're gonna wake up tomorrow like, oh, Nancy,
Speaker 1: I didn't see the fool. That is beautiful. All right,
Speaker 1: you're ready, come on over here, so tell me your wishes?
Speaker 1: Ye you you look like a goddess. Yes, she does. Taren,
Speaker 1: you're ready, I'm ready. You're ready? Kill me girls? Yes,
Speaker 1: I look outfit to yo. Ready to see? Yeah? All right,
Speaker 1: so good, thank you. Yes, let's brand camp was exciting, exciting,
Speaker 1: y'all are too. That's not the movie. I think this
Speaker 1: was successful. This was successful. Yes, give me long, give
Speaker 1: me passion. Yet I love it. Just watching you guys
Speaker 1: transform right before our eyes, like this is I love it.
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