1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks Insiders Camp, Chamfer comes up 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: and just on load getting you ready for Seahawks football. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: Every Sunday, Russell has Time fires Down, got one he 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Isn't Touchdown Show again powered by Seahawks dot Com. Welcome 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: to this week's edition of the Seahawks Insider Podcast as 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: we get you ready for the Seahawks playoff game against 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. I am Jen Mueller, sideline reporter for 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: your Seattle Seahawks, joined every week by John Boyle from 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: Seahawks dot Com. John, are we ready for the playoffs? 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: Ready as we're ever gonna be? Right? Ready to rock? Sure? 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: Maybe there's a song about that. There is. I'm going 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: to spare everybody though, from actually singing that song. What 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: I think we should give people though as we go 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: into the playoffs, And John, this is something that you 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: and I have talked about, and our producer Nassev talked about. 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: You know, for all that you want to pick apart 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: a team's weaknesses or flaws or look at why this 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,639 Speaker 1: particular year for the Seahawks is different than the last 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: four years, it's worth pointing out that this team is 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: doing something that not very many other teams can say 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: that they have done Yeah, And I completely get from 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: a standpoint of the fans where you want to look 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: at you know, you kind of look at everything on 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: the small scale of right now, and the run game 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: isn't what you like, or the red zone or whatever. 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: But if you just step back for a minute, it's 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: six teams are looking for new head coaches right now. 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: Twenty teams are home, they're done for the year. The 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Seahawks have won ten games or more five straight years. 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: They've been to the playoffs, obviously all five of those years, 31 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: five of the last six years in the postseason. There's 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: a franchise that until this recent run, had had double 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: digit wins five times total, never back to back, and 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: now they've done it five in a row. So that's 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: really hard. I mean, you're basically talking about the Patriots, 36 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: who somehow have been doing it for two decades, and 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: the Packers, and that's basically it. With these teams that 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: have stayed consistent and winning and not had these dips 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: were I mean, look at where Carolina is. They had 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: a great year last year, they go fifteen to one, 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: they're out of the playoffs. It's really really hard to do. 42 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Even Denver, who we saw in the playoffs, they go 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: back to the super Bowl last year and then they 44 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: have dropped off. And when you say that it is 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: basically the Patriots and the Packers, you're absolutely right. You 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: mentioned that the Seahawks have had five straight playoffs seasons, 47 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: five straight years with ten wins or more. Only Green 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: Bay and New England have more consecutive playoff appearances. Each 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: of those teams have eight. So the Seahawks are an 50 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: elite company and they've won at least one playoff game 51 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: every one of those. Ye've been at least of the 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: divisional round. So it's yeah, and again like I'm not 53 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, that's not to say the Seahawks don't have 54 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: things they need to get better at and they've got 55 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: some issues to sort out if they're going to have 56 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: a nice playoff round here. But sometimes it's worth kind 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: of stepping back. And one way to do that is 58 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: remember the guy. You talk to the guys who haven't 59 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: been in that situation. You know, if it's Russell Wilson, 60 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: Boby Waiter, that's all they know. But then you go 61 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: talk to Marcelaries. He played eight years in Oakland never 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: had a winning season, never went to the playoffs. Tabarubin 63 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: had won seven and nine year and went like four 64 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: and twelve and five and eleven every other year, played 65 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: for five head coaches. Those guys really appreciate and Cliff 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Avril he went owen sixteen as a rookie, then he 67 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl and now he's in this run 68 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: of for him four straight years of doing this. So 69 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: those guys can really kind of get that message home 70 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: to everyone else to appreciate where they are in now. Yeah, 71 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: and I think that that is the Maybe if there 72 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: is a downside to being so good at winning and 73 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: being consistent, it's that the bar is set really high 74 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: and we expect it to look a certain way, and 75 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: the Seahawks team doesn't look like any other that we 76 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: have seen under Pete Carroll on either side of the ball. 77 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: And when you talk about those veterans and just what 78 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: they bring on that perspective side. Here's the other thing 79 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: that Cliff Avril said that I thought was worth noting, 80 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: and Pete has said this, and Darryl Bevil has said this. 81 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: It's also the element of having fun. Yes, there is 82 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: work to do in the playoffs, but if the only 83 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: thing you look at is that matchup and are those 84 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: numbers and you don't treat it like every other week, 85 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: you're kind of missing what you've worked the entire season for. Yeah, 86 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: and neces true, And you know, I think part of 87 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: that is you should just appreciate the moment have fun, because, 88 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: as you said, that's what they were for. But you're 89 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: also going to play better if you're just relaxing in 90 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: the moment. And Tom Cable talked about this is probably 91 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: more true for that group than any other. This offensive 92 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: line is really young. It's one of the few groups 93 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: it isn't full of guys who have a lot of 94 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: playoff experience. Justin britt does, Gary Gilliam does. Mark Lensky 95 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: played one game last season. The other two guys are rookies. 96 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: So that group, if they get tense and think, oh 97 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: my god, it's the playoffs and it tried to do 98 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: stuff different, they're gonna be in trouble. But if they 99 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: go out and relax and have fun and enjoy it, 100 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: they've shown. Look, no one's gonna say that's been the 101 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: most consistent group on the team, but they've also done 102 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: some really good things at time Russell Wilson's getting sacked 103 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: at the lower rate per drop back than any other 104 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: time in his career. So that's what he has been 105 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: sacked fewer times this year, yeah, last year. Yeah, So 106 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: it's you know, and they've I know, there's been a 107 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: lot of focus on the run game, understandably over the 108 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: course season. I haven't got them, but they've shown they 109 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: can do it. They went four games, they went a 110 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: month averaging one hundred and sixty yards a game. So 111 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: to me, if that group can, as Cable said, just 112 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: kind of enjoy the moment and relax and be themselves, 113 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: they got a decent chance to do some good things 114 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: that might surprise some people who have just heard all year. 115 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Oh the Seahawks don't have an offensive line, right, and 116 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: I think if they do that earlier in the game, 117 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: because we have seen them do that in the second 118 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: half of the last couple of games. But to start 119 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: off that way, and as we look at the matchup 120 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: this week, you know, you don't just want to look 121 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: at the numbers and say, well, this is a good matchup, 122 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: But considering that we haven't played the game, this is 123 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: all we have. Yeah, and this matchup actually looks like 124 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: it favors the Seahawks in a few different ways, I think, 125 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: starting with the offensive line and the running game. The 126 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: Seahawks finished twenty fifth this year in rushing which is 127 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: one of the lowest not what we're used to that, yeah, 128 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: that we have seen, because in the previous four seasons, 129 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: the Hawks had never ranked worse than fourth in the league. 130 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: Now you look at that and you say the Seahawks 131 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: have problems in the run game. Well, let's take a 132 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: look at Detroit's defense and they are twentieth in rushing 133 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: yards per carry this year, eighteenth and rushing yards allowed. 134 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 1: That's the lowest rank of any NFC playoff team. So 135 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: if you're going to have a struggle, at least it 136 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: matches up well with the other game. Yeah. Yeah, I 137 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: mean this is the line. No one's gonna say the 138 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: defense is the strength of the Lions. I mean, they're 139 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: a team that relies law on their quarterback. They've come 140 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: back in a lot of games. It's not a bad 141 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: defense by any means, but it's a defense that if 142 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: you're doing your stuff right, you should be able to 143 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: move the ball, you should be able to score some points. 144 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: It's you know, these teams really on paper matchup pretty 145 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: evenly there in a lot of ways, so it's, you know, 146 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: should be an interesting one. And the Detroit defense of 147 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: line also is not one that's going to bring a 148 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: lot of pressure. Yeah, and as you've mentioned previously on 149 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: these podcasts, that's really what gives those guys up front 150 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: the hardest time. Yeah. I mean, you look at the 151 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: defenses for the most part. In the Green Bay was 152 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: the turnovers, that was kind of the outlier. But the 153 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: other games where the offensive struggle to get going, it's 154 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: been against those teams that either have just overall a 155 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: really strong line or that one or two just dominant, 156 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: especially sometimes the interior guys they are and Donald Clay 157 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: as Camels of the world. Those teams have given the 158 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Seahawks more trouble than any good news for them. There 159 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: aren't a lot of those defensive lines left in the playoffs. 160 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: So if there's an area that the Seahawks have struggled, 161 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: kind of the consistent struggle this year that they could 162 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: have a break in the playoffs, it might be that. 163 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: And when you talk about Detroit and kind of the 164 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: strength of that team being the offense, they've had some 165 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: problems in the last few weeks, it's been slowed down 166 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: quite a bit with the injury to Matthew Stafford, who 167 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: I know, it's still playing and he's still completing sixty 168 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: percent of his passes, but prior to the injury, he 169 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: was completely close to seventy percent of his passes and 170 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: his touchdown to interception ratio not what it was the 171 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: first part of the year. Yeah, and you know, it's 172 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: much like with Russell Wilson earlier in the year. It's 173 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's admirable, he's guiding it out and they're 174 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: gonna everybody's gonna say that he's doing a good job. 175 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: But as we saw with Russell Wilson, you just you're 176 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: not the same player. You can't be when you have 177 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: an injury that affects the way you're doing it. And 178 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: so even if matt Stafford limited is their best chance 179 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: to win and they believe that, and we all believe 180 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: that because he's a great quarterback, he just hasn't quite 181 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: been the same guy. Now. The one thing they'll be interesting, 182 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: it's a kind of injury that they seem to think 183 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: it's getting a little better with time and he gets 184 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: more used to it because he's thrown with a different thing, 185 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: So you never know when that game is going to 186 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: be that he fully feels comfortable with it, and then 187 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, look out he could go back 188 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: to be in the old Matt Stafford. But I mean, 189 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: they're still very dangerous that passing game. He's got a 190 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: lot of weapons and they're not shy about using them. 191 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: So well, he's got a lot of weapons, one of 192 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: whom we know is Golden Tate. Here's the other thing. 193 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: Detroit does not turn the ball over at all, and 194 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: we know that from these parts. We know how much 195 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: that makes a difference in the Seahawks. They're seven to 196 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: know when they win the turnover battle this year. And 197 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: so I guess my question back to you, if you 198 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: were scheming for this, who needs to have a big 199 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: game to make sure that Matthew Stafford does not get 200 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: comfortable at any point in time. Well, if I'm scheming 201 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: for this, the Seahawks are in real trouble. But that's 202 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: a little above my pagot now, you know, I don't 203 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: think it's a big game issue. I mean, if you're 204 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: talking about who's going to have a big game that 205 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: can make the difference I think gets the pass rush 206 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: that we've seen look really good lately and Frank Clark 207 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: ten sacks. To me, that's like, if you're looking at 208 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: the difference makers, it could come there. To me a 209 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: lot that though, is if Stephen Catrell can just be 210 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: solid and take care of the back end, which for 211 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: the most party has. But the problem with that position 212 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: it only takes one play to be really obvious if 213 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: it's not right and to make a huge difference in 214 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: the game. And that's part of what Earl Thomas. What 215 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: may Earl Thomas so great is those occasional Adard touchdown 216 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: passes like Missow against those just never happened. So if 217 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: Stephen Tarrell can again, he doesn't need to be Earl Thomas. 218 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: That's completely unfair to Stephen Tarrell. If he can just 219 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: be solid like he has been ninety five percent of 220 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: the time and not give up that home run play. 221 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: I really like this defense. If you make a team 222 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: go eighty yards on short plays and work their way 223 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: down the field, don't give up those explosives. This team's 224 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: really hard to score against well, and just knowing that 225 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: they're going to have to put the ball in the 226 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: air a lot, right, because they have him in all 227 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: to run it very well. And the Seahawks defense is 228 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: three point four carry best in the league in terms 229 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: of yards per carry all out, so you know they're 230 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: going to be throwing it. So theoretically, you know it 231 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: could be cold and wet, the chances might be there 232 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: to get the ball well. Yeah, and you talk about 233 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: not being able to run the ball. They placed theoretic 234 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: on injured reserve. Last week. He had three hundred and 235 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: fifty seven rushing yards led the Lions. That was the 236 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: lowest total for any team's leading rusher this year. And 237 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: here's the other thing I kind of found interesting. When 238 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: you talk about throwing the ball, they will even be 239 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: throwing the ball to their running backs who finished in 240 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: the top ten and receptions receiving yards by by running 241 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: backs and receiving tds that's all for running backs. Yeah, 242 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: usually do not have receiving yards. Tell you what, though, 243 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: this defense largely because of the two linebackers Bobby Wagner 244 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: and kJ Right, they're really good against these running back 245 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean, go back Atlanta. That that two headed attack 246 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: of Hester and Freeman, that's one of the best in 247 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: the league. And they really kept that duo in check 248 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: and if, if, if they're going to be relying on 249 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: running backs to be making plays in the passing game. 250 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: I like that matchup for the Seahawks a lot. I 251 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: do too, And I like what we've seen from Frank 252 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: Clark and you mentioned that, and he's been making headlines 253 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: a lot the last few weeks. For the most part, 254 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: it's because of his play and his get off and 255 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: what have we seen from him even as the years progressed. 256 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think it just happens with a lot 257 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: of young players. They just get more comfortable and learn 258 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: the game. It's defensive line and both sides of the ball. 259 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: The line might be the hardest adjustment from the college 260 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: game of the pro game, just both in terms of 261 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: the physical side of it and just all the different 262 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: things they're asked to do in there. And he's you know, 263 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: it's it's been sort of a natural progression of he's 264 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: playing more, he's more confident, he's better, he's just doing 265 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: everything better and it's showing up. I mean, ten sacks, 266 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: that's a legit season, especially for a guy who's you know, 267 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: he's just sixty percent playtime guy. He's not a starter. 268 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of what they had out 269 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: of Avril and Bennett when they weren't starters. Is this 270 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: guy who's you're not asking him to do as much, 271 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: but he's really productive when he's in there. Yeah, Yeah, 272 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: he has made a huge difference. He's taking on a 273 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: little bit more of a leadership role too, and he's 274 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: got he's got some lofty goals and expectations for himself. 275 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: He does, and that's I mean good for him. He knows, 276 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, he second round pick, and he's he knows 277 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: he's got too great defensive end veteran guys in for 278 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: him to learn from him, and that you know, maybe 279 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: somewhere down the road when those guys are gone, he 280 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: might have to step in and be both more of 281 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: a leader and a guy who plays more. And I mean, 282 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: he's got all the potential, Mike. You talked to Mike 283 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: Bennet about him, and he'll he'll just rave about all 284 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: the potential he has because I mean, you look at 285 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: the physical measurables. He's maybe better physically, a better athlete 286 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: than Michael Bennett. But Michael Bennet is just so off 287 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: the charts and the way he plays a position that 288 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, no one's saying, Frank Clark is Michael Bennett 289 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: right now, but he's the ceiling is really high on him. Yeah, 290 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: and I found out today that initially he was recruited 291 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: to go to Michigan to play. Yes, I was not 292 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: really even remembering that part of the story, which he 293 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: gave no consideration. Too good for him. Yes, he was 294 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: always going to be on the defensive line because he 295 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: knew he had talent and wanted to show it. So 296 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: we've talked about offense, we've talked about defense, and every 297 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: once in a while we touch on special teams. But 298 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: it does seem like special teams more of a headline 299 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: this week. What do we have going on outside of 300 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: a long snapper that is positioned in the middle of 301 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: the linebackers. Yeah, weird, but this time a year, you 302 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: just gotta fit him in where you can. So, yeah, 303 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: he's a former, he was a tight end in college, 304 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: and he's out of Harvard, so you figure he can 305 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: pick up whatever he needs to learn pretty quickly. But yeah, 306 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: they brought in Tyler Ott. Unfortunately for Nolan Freeze, his 307 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: season's over because of that ankle injury. Give the guy 308 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: credit for battle him through it. He was not right 309 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: at all physically in that game, but he got him 310 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: through it. So now you bring a new guy in 311 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: and you just hope it's a smooth I mean, it's 312 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: one of those positions you talk about offensive lineman, you 313 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: talk about the officials. They're the kind of guys you 314 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: don't want to notice him. We don't want to know what. 315 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: We want to go through Sunday's sorry, we want to 316 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: go through Saturday's game and not be talking about the 317 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: long snapper at all. Then the other big special teams 318 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: new is Devin Hester, you know, an all timer. I'm 319 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: sure he's gonna be the first two minute. He's probably 320 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: lost a step. He's thirty four years old. But the 321 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: thing is, you don't necessarily need him to be Tyler Lockett. 322 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: You don't need him to be hitting the home run. 323 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: You just want somebody who's gonna be safe back there, 324 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: do the right thing and get you some yards that'd 325 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: be great, but mostly just be solid. Well, And that's 326 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: kind of what I was going to ask, because I 327 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: know that a lot of people are looking at that 328 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: and they're thinking about him as you know, kind of 329 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: that home run ball, right, twenty touchdown twenty career touchdowns, 330 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: but before he was cut this year, he'd also had 331 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: five fumbles with the Ravens and he couldn't stick with 332 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: New England when he got to work out with the Patriots. 333 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I don't I mean, I don't know. Well, 334 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: we'll here, we haven't heard from any coaches about this yet. 335 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: We'll see what they're saying about him. But I'm guessing 336 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: they're banking on his longer track record versus a few, 337 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, maybe rough outings for the Ravens. I do 338 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: know of those fumbles, he only actually lost one of them, 339 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: so some of those might just be the you know, 340 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: muffpunt variety, which you still don't want to have, but 341 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: those don't always kill you. But yeah, it's I mean, 342 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: this guy's been really great at it for a long time, 343 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: and I think they're probably you know, they worked him 344 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: out obviously, they know what they're getting, so I'm sure 345 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: they feel comfortable with him. Well in a safe option 346 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: and a way to keep one of your other guys safe, 347 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: right because Sherman is back there, and I think you know, 348 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: I heard you make the point earlier. Look, they can 349 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: tell him to just fair catch it all they want, 350 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: but given the chance, be hard for sure, especially you 351 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: got a defensive player with a little bit of an 352 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: offensive background in him. We saw him that trick play 353 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: last year where he returned to punt. He's, you know, 354 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: he would love to get to show what he can do, 355 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: and so it's you know, he's it's not always easy 356 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: to commence those guys to do the safe thing versus 357 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they they're confident in their ability for good reason. 358 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: So if you don't have him out there taking unnecessary hits, 359 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: that's probably best for your defense. Yeah, yeah, I think 360 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: that that is a safe move. Although, as you point out, 361 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: it was interesting locker replacement today that that locker room 362 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: is full. You usually don't have so many changes at 363 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: the end of the season going into the playoffs, but man, 364 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: they are like bursting at this seat. A lot of 365 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: guys are unfortunately, so it's it's a crowded room. But 366 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: when it's time to look ahead to next year, there'll 367 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: be some nice pieces that we can talk about for 368 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: next year. And if we are going to touch on that, 369 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: there's a chance that a few changes could be made 370 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: on the coaching staff just because they get opportunities with 371 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: other teams. And while that would be tough to lose 372 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: a coach, Pete Carroll's actually coming for it. Yeah, And 373 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: you know this goes back to one of the core 374 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: philosophies for him. It all boils down to, as he 375 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: puts it, helping guys be the best they can be. 376 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: And if you're gonna stay true to that, you can't 377 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: tell an assistant coach you can't know. I'm not going 378 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: to let you pursue this job. Now. It has to 379 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: be in the right parameters. And you know, whether it's 380 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: Tom Cable, Darryl Bevill, christ Rahard, their first priority has 381 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: to be getting ready for this game. But if they 382 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: can free up a few hours the interview for a job, 383 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's not only gonna him do that, but he's 384 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: gonna help him in whatever way. If they want to 385 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: talk to him about the interview process, if they want 386 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: to talk to him about what it's like to build 387 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: a coaching staff, He's available to him because a he 388 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: just believes it's the right thing to do and the 389 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: best way to run his program. But be eventually you're 390 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: going to be hiring new coaches, whether it's because guys 391 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: leave in that capacity or whatever happens. It's a lot 392 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: easier to recruit the best coaches to bring a guy 393 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: in if they know, Okay, this guy has my best 394 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: interest in mind. He's not going to block me from 395 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: getting a job that kind of thing. Yeah. I just 396 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: think that that's such a good way to run any organizations, 397 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: whether it's a football team, whether it's a corporation. Yeah, 398 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: you want to make people good. And this is not 399 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: just a process for people kind of on the outside. 400 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: This is not something that they're cramming into a week, right. 401 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: The interviews might happen during the course of a week, 402 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: but there are opportunities for these coaches to lead in 403 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: different ways during the course of the season, ways that 404 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: if they show an interest in doing more, Pete will 405 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: allow them to do more, you know, and he will 406 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: have them go through different situations and kind of talk 407 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: through well, what would you do in this situation if 408 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: you were the head coach, how would you handle this? 409 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: So it's not like exactly all of a sudden, this 410 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: is a cram session for an interview. No, no, no, 411 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: this has been happening slowly during the course of the 412 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: year or years. Yeah, there's some coaches who don't want 413 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: the pressure and the spotlight of being a head coach. 414 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: And if a guy comes in here and just wants 415 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: to be an assistant, Pete Carroll's gonna let him do that. 416 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: But if he gets a sense from talking to a 417 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: young coach that they have head coaching aspirations he's talked 418 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: about that before, how he'll he'll bring them in and 419 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: let them, you know, kind of go through illustrations of Okay, 420 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: what would you do here? How would you do this? 421 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: And you know, and it's not just the XS and 422 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: O stuff. It's when your head coaches deal with all 423 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: sorts and stuff. So you're right, it's not it's an 424 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: ongoing process for these guys. Yeah, and we hope that 425 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: this season continues to be ongoing for the Seahawks, as 426 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: they will host the Detroit Lions in the first round 427 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: of the playoff. Seattle has won nine consecutive home playoff games. 428 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: I would love to see them stretch that streak this week, 429 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: which means in the next week that would be great. 430 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: That's a nice round. NU. Yeah, ten in a row, 431 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: and then next week we could come in and talk 432 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: about for we can talk about Atlanta. Let's not get 433 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves though. As we leave you this week, 434 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: make sure that you listen to the game Saturday evening 435 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: on the Seahawks Radio Network and check out everything John 436 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: has to offer on seahawks dot com, and one way 437 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: or the other, we'll be back with you next week