1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Thirty birds. What's Up? 2 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: And Welcome to another Atlanta Falcons podcast. I'm your host, 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: Will mcfad and I'm joined by Tory mclaney and Tory. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: This is the episode I think I've been looking forward to. 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: What'd you just do? Yeah, okay, I don't know. It's 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: not good which branch of the Navy or I guess 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: I said Navy. I answered my own question, would you 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: be good at the Navy? No? You hate the water, 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: don't you know? 10 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 3: I love water. I'm a big swimmer. My mom was 11 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: a big competitive swimmer, so I know how to do 12 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: all the strokes and everything like that. 13 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: So we saw off the rails already. 14 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: We've gone off the defensive end, which is what we're 15 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: here to talk about today. 16 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: You're going to do deep end, I know, but that's 17 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: not a segue. 18 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: I know. 19 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: I did a transition. I tried to do it anyway. 20 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: So we've got edge rushers on the mind today. I'm 21 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: very excited to talk about these guys because, let's be honest, 22 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 2: like it is kind of the position that I think 23 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: everybody is once again linking to the Atlanta Falcons in 24 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: the draft, which is just mere weeks away. So let's 25 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: go ahead and talk about all of the guys that 26 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: we've been talking about and just have that conversation. Does 27 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: that sound like a planned you tour? 28 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: It sounds like a plan. As you know. I've been 29 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: drafting ed drushers to the Falcons for four years now, 30 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: so this should be nothing new for me. 31 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: Man, that's just fantasy casting for forever. Like I feel 32 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: it need a new hobby, I do. 33 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: I need. 34 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: I need to find something to do with my time 35 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: besides drafting ed rushers to the Falcons. 36 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: If you guys have any more time on your hands. 37 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: Though there's been plenty of coverage written already about edge rushers, 38 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: we did have a kind of preview of who the 39 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons could draft in each round at kind of 40 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: the dress rush position that I wrote That came out 41 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: on Monday last Monday, so be sure to go check 42 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: that out. We've got, you know, a lot of rankings, 43 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: a lot of just kind of scenarios and things like that. 44 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: So it's projection season. 45 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what we do every single day. But let's 46 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: go ahead and get into the top guys who could 47 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: be there at pick fifteen and conceivably right there on 48 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: the board. For Atlanta to take, because that is kind 49 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: of the approach Abdul Carter. We're gonna just set aside. 50 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: The dude's a freak. Absolutely love him, but I don't 51 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: think he's gonna be there at fifteen. 52 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 3: He's not going to fall out of the top four, 53 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: just point blank period. 54 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if we are in agreement about that, let's 55 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: talk about Mike Green. Okay, who has been I think 56 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: a little bit of and I mentioned this to you previously, 57 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 2: like Quinyon Mitchell last year was a player who I 58 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: think during the college football season not many people knew about, 59 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: but then draft season starts and everybody's like, oh, have 60 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: you heard about this corner who is just super athletic, 61 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: a great play like aggressive, and that's kind of Mike 62 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: Green is like this year's Quinon Mitchell. To me, where 63 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: not a lot of people probably watching Thundering Herd games 64 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 2: outside of my own father, who was a massive Marshall fan, 65 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: which is wow odd, but he was the first one 66 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: that clued me into my Green. I was going down 67 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl and it was like, Hey, keep 68 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: an eye on that Marshall linebacker and I'm like, Dad, 69 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: it's an edge, But dad man it did. 70 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm thank thank you Dad. 71 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: That was such a great tip because he dominated at 72 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl. 73 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: I'm so impressed with him. What do you think about 74 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: Mike Green? 75 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: I love Mi Green. I in my mock draft flour 76 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: point oh version four point oh had the Falcons drafting 77 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: Mike Green, So I very much think that he's the Okay. So, 78 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: the thing about Mike Green is he has the production. 79 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: When you just look at the stat line, it's like 80 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: this guy's like out of the water. But you also 81 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: have to understand nothing against Marshall, but you do have 82 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: to have the conversation of what was the caliber of 83 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: tackles and guards and that he was facing, and also 84 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: the caliber of quarterback. And I think that plays into 85 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: the conversation around Mike Green, like, yes, he has the 86 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: production that you want. He led the FBS in sacks 87 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: last year, but he's playing at Marshall where competition is 88 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: not it's not the sec leg don't do it. But 89 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: I think that I think, oh, overall, this has been 90 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: a really important draft process for Mike Green to show 91 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: that he can level up to the competition that he 92 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: will ultimately face at the NFL level. And I think 93 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: that he had a really good if I'm remembering correctly, correctly, 94 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: he had a really good very early on in the season. 95 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: The college football season last year, didn't Marshall play Ohio State, 96 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: and I'm pretty I'm pretty sure that he had a 97 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: really good outing he. 98 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: Had They played Virginia Tech and Ohio State and back 99 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: to back weeks. 100 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: Okay, because I vividly remember, like when I'm watching cutups 101 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: of Mike Green, that he had a good game against 102 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: Ohio State. 103 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Keep keep going. I'm looking up stats, and I think 104 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: that he. 105 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: And even if it's not like a stat line thing, 106 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: like I felt, I felt his presence, I think in 107 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: that game and in certain moments of watching that game 108 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: or at least watching cutups of that game. So I 109 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: think that he has the athleticism and the traits and 110 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: the talent. 111 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: He had a sack in that game, he had a 112 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: tackle for a loss. He had two sax against Virginia Tech. 113 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, early on in the year, like he made 114 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: the statement and you can only play the teams on 115 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: your schedule, right exactly. He dominated those teams, right. 116 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: And I think that it was really important for I know, 117 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: you saw him at the senior Bowl, so you can 118 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: speak more to this, but I thought he'd dominate the 119 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: Senior Bowl. Literally, the videos that were coming out of 120 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl of him just absolutely running over some 121 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 3: of these tackles were crazy. And it was in that 122 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 3: moment where it's like, Okay, you saw these flashes of 123 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: him against like potentially NFL caliber players at the beginning 124 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: of Marshall's season, and then it kind of goes away 125 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: because they get into conference play and everything like that, 126 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: and they're all eyes are on the big wigs. All 127 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: eyes are on the Georgia's and the Alabama's and the 128 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: Ohio States, et cetera, et cetera, the Texas is and 129 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 3: the Arizona States. Now, but I do think that it 130 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: was really important to come back for the Senior Bowl, 131 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: come back for the Combine, and to show that hey, 132 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: I'm a force to be reckoned with and I'm somebody 133 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: who could theoretically be a top fifteen pick, per se. 134 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: So we do a movie club here for the Falcons 135 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: digital team. This is totally going but bear with me. 136 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: Have you seen Rocky three? 137 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: Of course? 138 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: Of course, all right, mister t Clever Lang, Yeah, that 139 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: is at the Senior Bowl. Shamar Stewart was clever, lang, 140 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: just big, imposing, loud. You could hear him sitting up 141 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: in the stands like every word, and he brought so 142 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: much energy, and he was Mike Green like Rocky Balboa. 143 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: He's like learning how to fight, how to be fast, 144 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: how to be strong, how to kind of like fly 145 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: under the radar and then hit you where it hurts. 146 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: Watching him one rep just run through a dude's face, ye, 147 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: and then the next rep run right around a dude 148 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: Like he had such a mission on every single rep 149 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: and a plan. It was so apparent like he was 150 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: out there to prove something. He knew that that was 151 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: his moment and for everybody to kind of come away 152 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: from the Senior Bowl being like Mike Green, man, like 153 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: I heard about him going in that dude's good. 154 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is legit. 155 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: So again, Shamar Stewart was a standout in his own right. 156 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: They're just different, they are. And that's where like Mike 157 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: Green had a little bit of an assassin's mentality, I 158 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: think coming in to the Senior Bowl where he was 159 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: like I'm I'm going to dominate this, but I'm going 160 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 2: to do so just letting my play do the talking, 161 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: which I really appreciated, and yeah, he caught my eye. 162 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: There's really not been a moment I think during the 163 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: draft process that I've had any questions about. But obviously 164 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: he does have some allegations in his history stemming back 165 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: from his time at Virginia, which he said at the Combine, 166 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: you know, caused him to transfer to Marshall. So he 167 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: also denied all of those allegations at the combine. 168 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: That is what it is. 169 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: All the teams will have done their own investigations into it, 170 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: including the Falcons. So we're going to leave that right there. 171 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 2: But let's move on to James Pierce Junior. 172 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: Okay, how about that thing? I thought I didn't know 173 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: we were going straight to JPJ. 174 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but did you who? Like these aren't in really 175 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: any order? I guess I do still have just the 176 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: PFS things holed up in front of me. So he 177 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: was the next name on the list. But where did 178 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: you think? Where would you have gone after Micring? 179 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: Well, I thought that we were gonna since we were 180 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: talking about Shamar Stewart, I thought we. 181 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: Were gonna go It did cross my mind. Yeah, I 182 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: thought We're going. 183 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: To just go into Shamar Stewart or any of the 184 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: Georgia guys. 185 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: But maybe you're a better host than name yet that 186 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: I'll let that naturally gifted. 187 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Shamar Stewart to my micring. 188 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: So, James Spears Junior JPJ. I think that he is 189 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: somebody who I think going into the twenty twenty four 190 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: college football season, a lot of people had higher on 191 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 3: their draft boards than I think what he ultimately ended 192 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: up being. I think right now people are kind of 193 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 3: mocking him anywhere from being kind of like a twenty 194 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: to twenty five pick or even falling out of the 195 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: first round, which I think it's it's I think it's 196 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: a good thing for James Pearce Junior because of the 197 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: way that the bottom part of the draft, the last 198 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: five picks in the draft, all of those teams need 199 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: kind of guys on the defensive line. And but just 200 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 3: in terms of who he is and what he's been 201 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: able to do at the college level, I think that 202 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: he kind of reminds me, I'm not gonna lie. He 203 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: reminds me in terms of like the link that he 204 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: has and how tall and long he is. He's not 205 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: a thumper to me, like he's he's very swift and 206 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: he's long and he's lean, and he kind of reminds 207 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: me a little bit of what Leonard Floyd was like, yeah, 208 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: early early in his career, where it's like he can 209 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: just out athlete people and him just kind of like 210 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: slither around people. 211 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's shadow monster. He just kind of like a 212 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: big yeah, thin yeah. 213 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: And that's kind of yeah, that's kind of the like 214 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: the vibe that I get from him. I I think 215 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: that I think that he has the ability to grow 216 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: in the game. Yeah, and I think that he has 217 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: a You always when you're talking about draft prospects, you 218 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 3: always hear this idea of like where's their ceiling and 219 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: where's their floor. And I think that he has kind 220 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 3: of like a very pointed ceiling and floor where I 221 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: know kind of where his floor is and I know 222 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: kind of where his ceiling is as a player. And 223 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: I feel like, if you're making a commitment to somebody 224 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: in the first round, kind of want that, you know, 225 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 3: a bit more solidified. 226 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a little bit of the boom bustier 227 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: prospect I think in that first round, right because of 228 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: his play style, Like you mentioned, like you brought up 229 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: Leonard Floyd, he reminds me a little bit of Brian 230 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: Burns as well, but more so physically like a little 231 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: bit of a narrower waist like Vic Beasley kind of too, 232 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: that body type like where they honestly they look like 233 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: physically fit, Like you would just see that dude at 234 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: the gym and be like, man, that guy, Like that's 235 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: a really kind of like jacked, just fit guy, like 236 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: but not necessarily screaming football player, right right. So he 237 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: his style is unorthodox in the way where he almost 238 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: is like a basketball player, a wide receiver at the 239 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, like he wants to like shit, he 240 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: doesn't really want a tackle to get their hands on him. 241 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: He wants to shake around him and kind of make 242 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: a miss in me. Yeah, he's dancing, he's a boxer. 243 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: He's in there. 244 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: You know, maybe I should have used the Rocky metaphor 245 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 2: for but we're just every which Rocky movie. Are you 246 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: Rocky one, You're Rocky five, You're a creed? 247 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: Get out of here? What are you doing here? 248 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's for that reason. Like you mentioned the teams 249 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: in the later half the first round, imagine if like 250 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: Detroit gets him and starts him as a situational pass 251 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: rusher or something like that. Like I think that is 252 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: to Detroit. That's where if you're bringing him in on 253 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: third down fresh everycent like early on, that is helping 254 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: him reach his ceiling. But I don't know if he's 255 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: going to be in every single down player in the NFL. 256 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: And maybe that ultimately brings him a little closer to 257 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: the floor. 258 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: Because I think that he you feel good about what 259 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: he can do affecting a passer, But how can he 260 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: set the edge and defend the run because he is 261 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 3: more of this like bigger or this like leaner body type. 262 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: He's six five two forty three. 263 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: By comparison, Donovan Azeraku is six two forty seven, so 264 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: like that's much more of a kind of like linebacker 265 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 2: Bill Yeah Stout whatever. But like James Pierce's is tall 266 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: and lean, right. 267 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: Which I think can help because you have, you know, 268 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: the long arms and everything like that. But at the 269 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: end of the day, to your point of what you're 270 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 3: saying earlier, like not wanting offensive linemen to get their 271 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: hands on him. If they're run blocking, they're gonna put 272 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: their hands on you. And so how does he hold 273 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 3: up to that at this level? 274 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 275 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: I mentioned Brian Burns, but like Brian Burns had an 276 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: insanely like otherworldly gift for balance when he was turning 277 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: the corner. Yeah, I don't see that from James Pierce. 278 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: I don't see that like a lead high level just 279 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: kind of flexibility and bend that Brian Burns had and has, 280 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: which is why he's such a good pass rusher. So 281 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: I you know, I just Pierce is going to be 282 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: one of the most interesting players I think in three 283 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: to four years to just look back and be like, 284 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: howd he turn out? 285 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 286 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Okay, let's go to Michael Williams. 287 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: Yay. 288 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: If you all listened to our mock draft episode last week, 289 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: which if you haven't, what are you doing? Pause this, 290 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: go listen to it. It was amazing. It was a lot 291 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: of fun. We took Michael Williams in the first round, 292 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: so spoiler alert, but let's talk about him again here, Tori, 293 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: tell me about your bulldog. 294 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: I think, oh, bulldog. I know you also taken too. 295 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he also went to EGAU. He is somebody who 296 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: I think, like we didn't see the best of Michael 297 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: Williams in twenty twenty four. He was hurt, you know, 298 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: very early on and had to essentially play through an 299 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: injury that was one of those type of injuries that 300 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: like Lingers. 301 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah and Lingererer. 302 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: So the I think that it's I don't think my 303 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: biggest thing with Michael Williams is And this was why 304 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: it was so funny when we were doing that mock 305 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: draft because PFF had him like not ranked very high 306 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 3: at all. And I think it's because PFF, as a 307 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: simulator is going off of their most recent tape in 308 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: showing and what twenty twenty four was for Michael Walker, 309 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: I think is not the epitome of who he is. 310 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: I think that we were seeing seventy five or eighty 311 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: percent of Michael Williams, and I think that we're we 312 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: didn't see one hundred and ten And because of that, 313 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: it's funny because I think that if we would have 314 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: saw or seen one hundred and ten percent of Michael Williams, 315 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: he would be a lot higher up on a lot 316 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: of people's boards and a lot more of it because 317 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: he's such as he's a violent, disruptive guy that you 318 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: have a lot of confidence in that can even when 319 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: he's playing at seventy f five eighty percent, his seventy 320 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: five and eighty percent is better than a lot of 321 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: people's one ten percent. So I feel really confident in 322 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: like the ready made player that he is that can 323 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: come into the league and be a disruptor immediately in 324 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: whatever role that whatever defensive coordinator ultimately wants Michael Williams 325 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: to play in. So for me, I think that he 326 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: I don't think he was as stout in setting the 327 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: edge and like stopping the run in twenty twenty four 328 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: because of that injury, but I don't think that that's 329 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: going to linger beyond this year, and getting back to 330 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: one hundred percent in terms of health is going to 331 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: be a big for him to round out his game 332 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: as a whole. But again, the words that just come 333 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: to mind with him is like very violent. He's very violent, 334 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: and I love a violent at dresser. Yeah, you want 335 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: some guys who can get mad. 336 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: What was it was? 337 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: The disdainful was the word that I say, Yes draft 338 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: a scriptor, I can't remember exactly who the player was, 339 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: but yeah, it was disdainful. Hands Like Michael Williams has 340 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: just like a disdainful demeanor, like just a game of 341 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: like anger towards whoever is in front of him, and 342 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: he reminds me of like just kind of an unstoppable, 343 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: mindless force, Like he's just Michael Myers right, Like he 344 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: just kind of is gonna walk right through you and 345 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: just get to the quarterback. 346 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: Your analogies today are amazing. 347 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. 348 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: I you know, I just looked in the mirror for 349 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: two hours last night and I just recited him back 350 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: to myself like I was preparing to give a presentation 351 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: in school. 352 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: So thank you. It's nice to know my efforts have 353 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: paid off. But yeah, he's he is just he's got 354 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: it all. 355 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: And I do think that, like you said, he enters 356 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: the league bare minimum a really good run defender, Like 357 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: he is going to have a role on every single down, 358 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: and he may not have right now the bag of 359 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: a Mike Green or even maybe Jalen Walker rights as 360 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: a pass rusher, although I would argue that he does 361 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: have some tools that he showed as two years ago 362 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: that he didn't necessarily whip out last year. But again 363 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: the injuries, but like he's got a really good swim move, 364 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: he's got some good inside out. He he has worked 365 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: off of Jala Walker, which I think is important too. 366 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: We talk about Jalen Walker and like what the Falcons 367 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: could do with him given what they have in Kaden Ellis. 368 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: But it's also important to note that if they drafted, 369 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: you know, Michael Williams, he would know. 370 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: How to play off of a kid Nellis. 371 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: He's used to somebody coming from the second level on 372 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: a twist, on a stunt, saying you're clearing the way 373 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: for me, and then I'm looping around you on a delay. 374 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: Like there's some art to this. And I think that 375 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: Michael Williams offers a really nice package just on day 376 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: one as a player that you get and I could 377 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: see he and Braylan Trice kind of just setting an 378 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: early down and then you bring in a Katie, you 379 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: bring in Leonard Floyd, you bring in a rotation of 380 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: these guys. Yeah, So I think he would be a 381 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: more traditional Yes selection. And that's one of the things 382 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: that I'm so excited to see this pick, because it's 383 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: gonna tell us a lot about the defensive design I 384 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: think for twenty twenty five. Because and maybe we'll table 385 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 2: this for a second until we get let's just get 386 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: to Jaalen Walker right now, Okay, because is Georgia running mate? 387 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 2: Because really these two players, I think embody the two 388 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: approaches that you could take. Yes, and if you go 389 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: with Michael Williams, it's a little bit more of a 390 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: traditional hybrid where you're like, all right, we've got our 391 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 2: three to four look, We've got our four to three 392 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: look players who can do both. If you're taking Jalen Walker, 393 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: it's almost less like a Vic Fangio approach and more 394 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: of a Brian Flores approach. And now I'm like, let's 395 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: get some junkyard dog defense in here, where you got 396 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: four guys standing up who can all come and rush 397 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 2: the passer. 398 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: What do you do? 399 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: Which I do think is what Jeff Olbrick and Rahee 400 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 3: Morris are wanting to lend the defense to. 401 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: I like it. 402 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 3: I do think that if I'm I don't personally me 403 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: personally Tory mckliny, I do not think that Jalen Walker 404 00:18:59,320 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 3: is going to be there. 405 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: Is you keep giving him Carolina at eight. 406 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 3: I can't get him past Carolina eight where I have 407 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: him going earlier. But I don't think he's gonna be there. 408 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 3: I'll say that first of all. But if he is there, 409 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 3: I and it's like between Jalen Walker and Michael Williams. 410 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: I think the variety of Jalen Walker's game, to your 411 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: point is he's like a Swiss army knife in what 412 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 3: he can provide play in and play out, and you 413 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 3: can move him around to so many different places, and 414 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 3: you can do a lot of things with him, and 415 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: I he's I mean, he's such an interesting player. And 416 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: I think that I'll give Kirby Smart all the credit 417 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 3: in the world that I think that he has helped 418 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: create a Jalen Walker that is going to further grow 419 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 3: the position of like ed drusher inside linebacker to the 420 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: point of, like, we know how I feel about inside linebacker, 421 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: is that go the rest of the pastor I talked 422 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: about Kaden Ellis literally all the time. But I love 423 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: this idea of being able to be creative and do 424 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 3: different things with one specific guy. Jalen Walker allows you 425 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: to do that, yeah, over and over again. And I 426 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: don't know, I think that he he also has the 427 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 3: like makeup of a person that I think this coaching 428 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: staff would appreciate, like the I think he's been a 429 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: good like leader at Georgia. I think that he is 430 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 3: very communicative in his role. I think that he's just been. 431 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: He's just been very good for Georgia and somebody that 432 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 3: has been fun to watch as someone who like loves 433 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 3: scheme and versatility and all this kind of stuff. Like 434 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: if I'm looking at this ed dresser class, like I'm 435 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: I love watching Jaylen Walker play. 436 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: It took over that Texas. 437 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 3: Yes, it's so fun to watch. And I mean I know, 438 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: like I know that I have allegiance to the University 439 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: of Georgia because I'm still paying back student loans to 440 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: the University of Georgia. But I do think that like 441 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 3: he can kind of do it all, and I want 442 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 3: somebody who can kind of do it all because that 443 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: helps out I think everybody for sure. 444 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: And that's where I think that having seen the vision 445 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 2: clearly with Kaden Ellis and kind of like what they 446 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: can do. Yeah, I'm totally on board if they say, look, 447 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: we know what we want to do with Jaylen Walker. 448 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: He brings this, you know, he fits well with Kate Ellis. 449 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: If you're gonna run a lot of simulated pressures, having 450 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 2: a lot of guys who can rush the passer, yeah helps. 451 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: I also think that to the point of what we're 452 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 3: saying earlier, like I think that often times, like Georgia 453 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: used him to kind of like just spy the quarterback. 454 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a lot of reps where I was 455 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: kind of like, you didn't do anything on that way, right. 456 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but but there were I think like even just 457 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: kind of like making the decision of like allowing different 458 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: guys to have their moments within the scheme. And also 459 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 3: if you're using him to spy the quarterback, that does 460 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 3: that free up Kate and Ellis to do something different, right, 461 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 3: And I don't know, I like it. I like it. 462 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: I don't Again, I don't think he's gonna be there 463 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 3: at fifteen. But if he is like that, just to 464 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: me is a Rahee Morris and Jeff Ulbrick pick through 465 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: and through. 466 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 467 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: I would be very happy with that. I know a 468 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 2: lot of our fans would be very happy with that 469 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: as well. It would be a really like it would 470 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: just get my brain churning. What does this defense look like? 471 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? Because it changed. I think he changes. You insert 472 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: him into this defensive front, and I think it changes 473 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 3: the way that you can. 474 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: Call a game and how you manipulate numbers, right, like 475 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: how you get offenses to declare what you can then 476 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: do on the backside off of that, like, there's there's 477 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: a lot of flexibility that it gives your defense for 478 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: a defense that already had a good bit of defensive flexibility. 479 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 3: Exactly. 480 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's move quickly kind of from here 481 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: on out. 482 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: We're what you don't want to talk about Jayalen Walker anymore. 483 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: We're bumping up against time unfortunately, so we got to 484 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 2: move on from the dogs that I'll know how about him, 485 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: Let's talk let's end with Shamar Stewart. So we'll talk 486 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: about right now Donovan as a kind of save Shamar 487 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: for the very last one. So Donovan Azeraku really quickly. 488 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: He second in college football in sacks last year behind 489 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: Mike Green. He is I think just kind of like 490 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: when you envision a pass rushing prospect who brings like 491 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: he's just kind of what you would think of. 492 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: He looks like the traditional archetype of what an aeddresher is. 493 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mentioned six two to forty seven smooth runs. 494 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: The arc has a nice bend, flashes some inside moves 495 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 2: off of it, just kind of does a little bit 496 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: of everything you would want your pass rusher to do 497 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: if he even if he doesn't necessarily do one thing 498 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: like at the highest. 499 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: Possible luvel right. 500 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: I think that that's the thing about his game is 501 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: the consistency. Again, going back to the floor and ceiling, 502 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: like his there are some players that are like Flash 503 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: in the pan have the highest ceiling possible, but their 504 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 3: floor could be so low. I don't think his floor 505 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 3: is very low. I think that his floor is pretty 506 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: pretty good. 507 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I. 508 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: Think that he has the ability to grow into the 509 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 3: game and grow in to himself. But I but I 510 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: think he's already kind of we talk about ready made players. 511 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about his arsenal to a certain extent, 512 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 3: of his moves and the way that he uses his 513 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 3: body and his intelligence. 514 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean he's like a technician. 515 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Like I think that he finishes. He just finishes 516 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 3: well like that. I mean, of course you look at 517 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 3: you know, over sixteen sacks in one season, you're like 518 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: a little doudtorry. Of course he finished as well, but 519 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: like that's hard to do. 520 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: Like he's got really long arms. 521 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he his arm length, which is something we 522 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 2: know Jeff Albrik really likes. So like, if you're making 523 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: a short list starting with guys who have, you know, 524 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: really long arms, they're ragging their knuckles on the ground 525 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 2: like that helps. 526 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that he probably could be better 527 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: in the run a little bit. I don't necessarily see 528 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 3: him as a big time like run stopper, edge setter. 529 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: He's not the Michael Williams right. 530 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: Exactly, but I do think that he is one of 531 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: the in terms of his again, his arsenal of moves 532 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: that he can deploy, and what he has in his bag. Essentially, 533 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 3: I think is is the most robust I know, I 534 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: know of a lot of the guys in this draft class. 535 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: And I think that's It's really interesting because I feel 536 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 3: I feel really good about who he is and what 537 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: he could provide a team because of the level of 538 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: consistency I see in his game when I watch it. 539 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's really well said. He again, is 540 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: every single play like going to give you something. Yeah, 541 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: And it may not be. 542 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 3: The flashiest thing sometimes, but. 543 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: But he was productive. He was so productive. That's the thing. 544 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: Is like there was a lot of flash in his game. 545 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: I think sometimes like I forget that because I'm like 546 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: he's doing all these like cool things with his arms. 547 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: I think it's because you can see you can't see 548 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 2: the moments in like the run defense, and you can 549 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: see the moments where he does maybe get swallowed up 550 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: on a rep and you're like, all right, Like is 551 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: that gonna happen more in the league? Right when you 552 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: get against bigger guys who are quicker, faster, But like, 553 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: I'm always gonna favor I think a guy who's toolsy, 554 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 2: who's got like some of the hand fighting, knows how 555 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: to counter it, knows how to kind. 556 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: Of win in a phone booth. 557 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 2: Again, he looks and he can. Yeah, so let's move 558 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: to kind of the other side of the coin. Shamar 559 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 2: Stewart like looks the part everything you would want. I've 560 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: made all of the analogies to just like Frankensigin's Monster 561 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: and all of that. But like, I don't even know 562 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: what to say about Shamar Stewart. I know he sets 563 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: the precedent, and it's like the production is the only 564 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: I know. 565 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 3: He's such an enigma to me, Yes, because you look 566 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 3: at him, you watch him play like it's almost like 567 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: he's the other side of the coin of what we're 568 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: talking about with Donovan is that he you know, Donovan 569 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: has all this production and you can see the finish 570 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: in it, and you know, maybe has some limitations in 571 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 3: terms of the run game or whatever the case may be. 572 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart, you look at him and you're watching and play, 573 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 3: and you're like, how does this guy not have more sacks? 574 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: How does how does he not have a bigger stat line? 575 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: Like it feels misleading, Like it feels it feels like 576 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: I'm sitting here looking at this guy who has all 577 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: of the traits in the world that you would want. 578 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: Looks the part is this huge presence yep, and only 579 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 3: four and a half sacks in three seasons. Like it, 580 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: it's concerning to me. It's and I don't know. I 581 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 3: feel like I know the game very well. I don't 582 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: know why it's not work. It hasn't been clicking, that 583 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 3: the finished part of it hasn't clicked yet. And maybe 584 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: it's scheme, Maybe it's what he's being asked to do. 585 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: Maybe it's closing speed. I don't know. But like everything 586 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: in his testing is physical nature, it all makes sense. 587 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: It's like this, it doesn't connect in my brain and 588 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 3: I don't I don't get why. 589 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it makes like he is the conundrum. Yeah, 590 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: this year, it's like, but I don't think he is 591 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: necessarily as rare as I think everybody is making him 592 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: out to be right now, because I think a lot 593 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: about Javon Kinlaw, Like a few years ago we were 594 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: talking about a similar type of deal with him coming 595 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: out of South Carolina, where it was like just this 596 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: massive dude who is way faster than he should be 597 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 2: in strong and if he gets his hands on you, 598 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: he's gonna throw you off the screen and then go 599 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: get the quarterback. But like he didn't do that all 600 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: that much on every single play, even though you're like, 601 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: how is anybody gonna be able to handle this guy? 602 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: That's to me Shamar Stewart. And it was very impressive 603 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: to watch him at the Senior Bowl. So I think that, 604 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: if anything, actually raised my estimation of him because he 605 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: just was so fiery as a competitor, like, I know, 606 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: this comparison is going to be, you know, come with 607 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: some baggage for this particular audience. Reminded me of Attack McKinley, 608 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: you know, like with the way that he just carried 609 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: himself with such confidence and bravado and like I'm gonna 610 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: let you know that I'm the best. 611 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: There were reps where he it. 612 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: Almost got personal between him and the offensive lineman that 613 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: he was going against. It was like we got round 614 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: three coming up, you know, because these two guys when 615 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: that ball snapped, it's it's a one on one drill 616 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: right now. And the problem though, it is right. 617 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 3: The problem though is is like we know how things 618 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: ended with Tat McKinley, right, and it's like, I'm not. 619 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: Saying know the moment I said that, I could just 620 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: I could literally the demeanor you changed. 621 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: I know, my eyeballs. I don't know if I was 622 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: just it kind of like twitched a little bit, like 623 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 3: because I was just like, I mean, okay, that's a 624 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: comparison to make, but like, ultimately that didn't work out. 625 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: Tach McKinley did not work out, And like I think 626 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: with Shamar Stewart, it's it's tough, Like it's tough, and 627 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: I think a lot of times and because I do 628 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: so many mock drafts a lot of times, the way 629 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: things fall is like you're either taking Mike Green at 630 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: fifteen or you're taking Shamar Stewart at fifteen, and I've 631 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: taken both to kind of see how the fan base 632 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 3: reacted a little bit when taking Mike Green over Shamar 633 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: Stewart or Shamar Stewart over Mike Green. It was very 634 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: apparent to me where the fan base lies. 635 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: They received both warmly and with a ton of praise. 636 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: And absolutely not, absolutely not. It was very pro Mike 637 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: Green anti Schamar Stewart. Interesting and so it like significantly 638 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: it was a very obvious discrepancy in the way that 639 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: the fan base looked at Mike Green over Shamar Stewart. 640 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: And I think a lot of it has to do 641 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: with what are you seeing from them? And you saw 642 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: production from Mike Green, you have not seen production from 643 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: Schamar Stewart in the way that I think the fan 644 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: and the watcher of these games on Sundays or Saturdays 645 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: or whatever day of the week it is that matters 646 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: to them, It matters to their fantasy teams. It matters 647 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 3: sometimes a lot of times two wins on the board. 648 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: That's such a fascinating though, like exercise in draft narrative, 649 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: because Mike Green has been kind of the draft darling, 650 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart has been, you know, like kind of taken 651 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 2: hits because the production question is just coming up. But 652 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: like you, if the captivation with both players is right, 653 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: like both players should be really fascinating prospects to talk about. 654 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: It's just interesting the way that we're talking about. Yeah, 655 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 2: both even though again, like you're not wrong if you're like, 656 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: give me Jamar Stewart every single day, I will try 657 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: to work with a player who has that chunk of 658 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: marble just like to work with. You're not wrong for 659 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: thinking that, right, It's fascinating to see how it affects everything. 660 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: So that is kind of everybody who I think could 661 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: conceivably be in play at fifteen for Atlanta. Is there 662 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: anybody that you've been watching that you just kind of 663 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: want to use this space for on day two? Let's 664 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: say Atlanta goes to the corner in the first round 665 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: or they trade back, and we're looking at maybe that 666 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: second tier of guys. Is there anybody who has just 667 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: really like jumped off the page? 668 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: Well, I think that, like a lot of people would 669 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 3: say maybe like Landon Jackson from Arkansas. I think that 670 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: he's another person with like the length in the size 671 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 3: he definitely right, he's six six, two hundred and sixty 672 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 3: four like pounds, Like he has this like look about 673 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: him that I think looks a little dangerous. Like it's 674 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: just I think that he has the build of something 675 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 3: that could become impressive. And so that's I kind of 676 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 3: I like. I like what I see. 677 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 2: He's like if Jimmy Graham was a pass rusher, is like, 678 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: that's kind of what he looks like. Yeah, he's long's 679 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: he's tall, he's big, Like he he looks like a 680 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: basketball player after rushing the passer, but he's got more 681 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: bend than you would expect. 682 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: Like he's good. He's a good player. 683 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: He's good, And I think, yeah, I think I like him. 684 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: That's that's a name that I'm like, I think that 685 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: he's going to be kind of like a top fifty player. Like, 686 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 3: and you could look at him early in that second round. 687 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 3: If you're the Falcons and you decide to go at 688 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 3: Dresher again or go Edgresser the first time, maybe you 689 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: go somewhere different in the first run. I don't know, 690 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: that's a name that I would I would throw out. 691 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: I like Landon Jackson a lot. He is somebody who 692 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: in that second tier. Like he's easy to remember. He 693 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: just sticks in your mind. Yeah, when you kind of 694 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: watch him play, you're like. 695 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: Like, oh, that giant dude. 696 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 697 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're trying to think of Yeah, okay, who else, 698 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that guy from Arkansas who was just like 699 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: I watched him take down the quarterback with one arm, 700 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: like just kind of grab him as he was being 701 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: blocked around the edge. Yeah, he sticks in your brain. 702 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: Somebody else who has recently just grabbed my attention as 703 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: Braden Swinson out of LSU a little bit of a 704 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: late bloomer, somebody who I'm a little bit late too. 705 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: But just if you're looking at a day two person 706 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: with a lot of upside, he to me has kind 707 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: of a similar Donovan azerakuh, just like he does a 708 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: lot of it. 709 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of the traditional. 710 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: Really good kind of hand fighter, just trying to always 711 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 2: find ways to get past the guy in front of him. 712 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: And then he had some solid production this past year. 713 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 2: He is a little bit more I think of an 714 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: outside life. I'm backer build, so he wouldn't be again 715 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: your Michael Williams. 716 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: Just to like set the edge. 717 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: But if he gets a little bit stronger, he could 718 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: be really in that mix with Brayln Trice and n 719 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 2: Leb Katie and then you've got, like again a rotation 720 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 2: of guys, which was kind of the approach last year. 721 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: I think he would totally fit into a situation like that. 722 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 2: So Brandon Swinson is somebody who stood out. And then 723 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: you get into like Jared Ivy and Kyle Canard and 724 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: some of those guys are stronger, powerful guys. You know, 725 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 2: Kyle Canard is is good like pass rush potential. I 726 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: think Jared Ivy is maybe a better like base end potential. 727 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: But is there anybody else in that group? Jordan Birch 728 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: like maybe third route they don't have a pick. Let's 729 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: say they get a pick in the third round. You know, 730 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: is there is there somebody among those names. 731 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: I just mentioned. 732 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I think the the Jared Ivy. Jared Ivy 733 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 3: is somebody that I have known and watched for a while. 734 00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 3: And I I think that you because because I covered 735 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: Georgia Tech, and so I covered his initial ascension into. 736 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: College football before the recruiting period, the. 737 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 3: Recruiting period before he ultimately went to Old Miss. But 738 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 3: I really liked what I saw from him. I also 739 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 3: think that he has grown into his body. From the 740 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: days that I remember covering him, he was a bit 741 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 3: more like long link. He kind of guy six yeah, 742 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 3: and he is huge. He's a big dude. Now, and 743 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 3: so I like, he kind of does remind me of 744 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 3: this like thumper almost and I use that term a lot, 745 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 3: but it's kind of just those those guys that can 746 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 3: put their nose to the ground and just. 747 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: Like get that job done. 748 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: And that's what I think the Falcons need more of. 749 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: I think back, like, what was Aaron Donald known for? 750 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: He was so strong. Yeah, if he hit you, it 751 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: stunned you. You felt it. 752 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 2: So I again, I makes a lot of sense if 753 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: the Falcons were like, we need a guy who has 754 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 2: us like punching bags for hands and is just going 755 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: to boom thump you right in your chest. So makes 756 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 2: a lot of sense. Uh, let's go ahead and start 757 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: wrapping up because we've run a little bit long today. 758 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: But thank you guys so much for sticking with us. 759 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: Hope you learned something about any of these guys that 760 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: you didn't know about. I encourage everybody always to go 761 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 2: turn on the tape yourself, look on YouTube, google these guys' names. 762 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 2: It's not that hard. But he does give you a 763 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: great idea of you know, when you read everything that 764 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 2: everybody's writing or you hear us talk about it on podcast, 765 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 2: being able to kind of like we said with Lanna Jackson, 766 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: have that image in your mind immediately. 767 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 3: Also, like this is like subjective to your thoughts on 768 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 3: a player could be very different than my thoughts on 769 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 3: a player versus the fan versus. 770 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: That's why I love the draft season. 771 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, versus like Kyle Smith in the front office. 772 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: Like, who do you think is more important than amongst 773 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,479 Speaker 1: all the people you just named? 774 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 3: Definitely myself, Like Kyle comes to me. 775 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding, it's the fans. Oh yeah, what are 776 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: you talking about? 777 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: The man of the people. It's the awesome all right. Well, Tory, 778 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining me on this. It 779 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 2: was a great exercise. Everybody please again check out the 780 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 2: website a landfalcons dot com, check out our podcast network 781 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: wherever you gear your podcast, YouTube channel, all of that 782 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 2: great stuff. But for Tory mclaney, I'm Will McFadden and 783 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 2: we will see you next time.