1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Weston Hodkowitz. Were coming to you 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: here from our studios at lambeau Field West. The regular 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: season is over. The Packers finish at thirteen and four 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: a thirty seven to thirty loss to the Detroit Lions 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: on Sunday at Ford Field. Obviously a back and forth, 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: up and down game. Starters played most of the first half. 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Packers used a lot of reserves, including at quarterback, and 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: all of that in the second half. The biggest news 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 1: out of this game, when you look at it from 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: the Packers perspective, is that left tackle David Baktieri and 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: center Josh Meyer's, the rookie second round pick out of 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Ohio State, both returned to the lineup and returned to 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: the starting lineup, playing the bulk of the first half. 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: And this is something now to keep an eye on. Obviously, 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: with the Packers heading into the playoff bye week, getting 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: ready for the divisional round game coming up here in 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, eleven or twelve days, whatever it is, Packers 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: might be getting back to a lot closer to full 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: strength on the offensive line than they've been in quite 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: some time. It was a really interesting postgame zoom pressor 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: because you were listening to David bat speaking at the 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: podium to the reporters in Detroit. I was over on 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: the other the side of things listening to Aaron Rodgers 26 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: and Rogers mentioning that he actually was sort of I 27 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: don't want to say coaxing Box to play into this, 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: but he kind of was. He said on Wednesday, he 29 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: kind of put it more in his ear of, you know, 30 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: maybe to get some reps in this game, because honestly, 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: it kind of sounded like, you know, when they've they've 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: been through this process with him, you know. And Bok 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: Terry said he he thought it was probably gonna a 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: little bit earlier than he was gonna be coming back, 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: wanting to make sure that he's ready for the playoffs. 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: And it was Rogers point, and I thought it was 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: a really good one. Is that, you know, all the 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: talk was all about momentum, and it's all about building 39 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: out what they've done, and certainly there's there's truth to 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: all of that, but his number one reason to play 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: in that game was because he wanted to get snaps 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: with Josh Meyers at center, and he wanted to get 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: box Tr back out there. And I think if you 44 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: check it and just look at it from that perspective, 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: Sunday was a success for David to play snaps. I 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: think Josh Meyers ended up playing thirty two just a 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: couple more, basically finished out that series for those guys 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: missing as much time as they have. And it was 49 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: important that Matt Lafleur pointed out to bak Tr has 50 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: eight years of reps built up. Josh Meyers even though 51 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: he actually has played this season, He's only played in 52 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: four or five NFL games at this point. For both 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: of those guys to get out there and the Packers 54 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: to start figuring out what their best five is for 55 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs, what a benefit, What an opportunity after so 56 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: much time has been spent this season of them trying 57 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: to figure out, Okay, who are guys, who's healthy, who's available? Well, 58 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: now you can start to build your best five. Yeah, absolutely, 59 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: and I think that's uh, that's what's worth watching here 60 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: as um this next week and a half goes by. 61 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: The Packers did decide with bok Tr at left tackle, 62 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: and Myers at center, that Lucas Patrick, who had been 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: playing center, moved over to right guard. He started at 64 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: right guard in place of Royce Newman, and Matt lafleur 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: Um made a comment on Monday with regard to Lucas 66 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: Patrick that he is definitely one of the packers best 67 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: five offensive linemen right now. So that tells you that 68 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: if the coaches decide they feel comfortable and Josh Meyers 69 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: is good to go for the playoffs, that Patrick's going 70 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: to be starting at right guard, and then your next 71 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: man up at this point on the interior, if anything 72 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: were to happen at either of the guard spots, really 73 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: then becomes the rookie Royce Newman, who obviously has a 74 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: ton of games under his belt and everything at this point. 75 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: But if everybody feels good about box tr and Myers 76 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: and and all of this going forward, it looks like 77 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: the Packers are going to have really other than other 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: than John Runyon, the Packers are going to have quite 79 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,559 Speaker 1: a bit a quite a bit of playoff experience um 80 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: in their offensive line. And that's even whether it's Dennis 81 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: Kelly or Billy Turner at right tackle, because Billy Turner 82 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: potentially could return to practice at some point this week 83 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: or next heading into that playoff. Yeah, and and that's 84 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: the important key I think for Green Bay here, and 85 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: as Matt said, it isn't just gonna be the offensive line. 86 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to figure this out at a number 87 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: of different positions at this point in the season. Was 88 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: this thing moving on me or was it just me? 89 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: I think it's it's a little loose. It's like a 90 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: little loose. I have to do some next time that 91 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: Marv's doing the shot strictly on you. I gotta do 92 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: some some work on this thing. So one man banned 93 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: operation here. I thought the thing was following down. No, 94 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: but they're gonna have figure this out at cornerback. They're 95 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to figure this out. If Sadarius Smith comes 96 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: back an outside linebacker. They've certainly had to figure this 97 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: out with their receiving corps guys have gotten back, figuring 98 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: out where to incorporate guys to put the best eleven 99 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: on the field. An offensive line is one of the 100 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: very interesting spots where there really isn't much changeover once 101 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: you get your five out there, those are the five 102 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: guys you're running with and I think with Patrick specifically, 103 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: I think one thing a lot of people forget is 104 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: this is the second longest tenured guy on this offensive line. 105 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: He's also like the fifth longest tenure guy in the 106 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: entire roster. Lucas Patrick has a lot of experience built 107 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: up and served very amicably these last ten games to 108 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: start at center to be able to stem this tide 109 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: to get back to Myers. You tip your cap to him, 110 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: and I think he's definitely played himself into that conversation. 111 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: Royce Newman is the future, just like you know John 112 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: Runyon was the future last year, but yet it was 113 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: in more of a reserve capacity. The guys who have 114 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: had to step up have stepped up. The one I 115 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: got to just give one bit of credit to though, 116 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: before we move on as Dennis Kelly, because this is 117 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: a guy Mike that didn't play a single offensive snap 118 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: for like three and a half months since the regular 119 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: or the pre season open against Houston, Because then you 120 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: forget that he kind of had an injury at the 121 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: end of camp too, when he finally had to go 122 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: in for Billy Turner in mid December. The guy didn't 123 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: play on offense. He missed a month with his own injury. 124 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: I think it was a hip or something like that. 125 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: And he has not even I don't know if anybody's 126 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: even talked about the left side defensive end the last 127 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. The guy has just been a stud. 128 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: And again, it just makes all these questions here as 129 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: Billy Turner comes back, as Box Try gets back comfortable, 130 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: what is going to be your best five? A much 131 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: different scenario than what Green Bay was faced with a 132 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: year ago at this time. Yeah, absolutely, and I totally 133 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: agree with you with regard to Dennis Kelly. It's it's 134 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: just it's interesting looking at looking at the film. You 135 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: maybe I don't know if it's a noticeable on TV 136 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: or not, but but Dennis Kelly is just such a 137 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: big guy, like huge, and and now this last game 138 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: when you had Dennis Kelly at right tackle and then 139 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: you have Box Try back there at left tackle, with 140 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: you know, with his wide stance and the big kickstep 141 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: that he takes, you know, with regard to pass protection 142 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: and everything. You see those two guys on the edges 143 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, holy cow, it that's taken 144 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: nothing away from Billy Turner. If Turner steps back in 145 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: there at at right tackle. He's got the you know, 146 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: that wide kickstep to the other side. I mean, these 147 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: guys are these guys are such are such big bodies. 148 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: And the Packers, the Packers are fortunate to have this 149 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: much experience that they can choose from here heading in, 150 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: heading into the postseason. Yeah, Box tr and Myers. Obviously 151 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: they have to get their game conditioning back. They have 152 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: to be ready to play fifty sixty you know, maybe 153 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: even seventy snaps depending on how things go. And that's 154 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: really the tricky part here, because whether you're talking about 155 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb coming back year, Alexander coming back, maybe za 156 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: Darius Smith coming back, those guys can be worked in 157 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: um to you know, to certain packages. You can substitute 158 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: them in, have a few plays here, and then you 159 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: know they You don't necessarily have to ask those guys 160 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: to go play sixty snaps right away on the offensive line. 161 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: You don't necessarily want to be shuffling things around series 162 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: to series, quarter to quarter or a half to half whatever. 163 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: It was fine to do that against the Detroit Lions 164 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: when the Packers didn't need to win the game, but 165 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: the conditioning of those guys will be will be the 166 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: key as to whether they are ready to go for 167 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And could you tell just how much that 168 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: game meant to David Baktr and and just the fact 169 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: that he was able to get back out there. Evan 170 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: Siegel had a great shot at him during the I 171 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: think it was a national anthem or some point during warmups. 172 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: A very emotional, very reflective David baktr looking back on that. 173 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: Our team at Packers dot com or video department and 174 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: David put together a fantastic, kind of funny, humorous video 175 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: of his big comeback that I know they've been working 176 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: on was that was fantastic. But when it comes down 177 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: to it, this is a guy that has put and 178 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: dedicated so much time to his craft. Is as humorous 179 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: and as funny as he likes to be. It was 180 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: a very serious moment for him to be back out there, 181 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: and as Aaron Rodgers said, extremely proud of him that 182 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: he was able to get those snaps under his belt. 183 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: And you would hope whenever that divisional playoff game comes 184 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: around here in a week and a half, that bacteria 185 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: will be able to lean back on those experiences and 186 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: feel confident again in that knee and where he's at 187 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: well on Sunday. The Troit Lions were a to win 188 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: football team with nothing to lose, and as I said 189 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: during the game, as I said an insider inbox, they 190 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: absolutely played like it. They try to fake punt early 191 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: in the game. Packers were able to defend that. They 192 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: tried a couple of trick plays, both of which worked 193 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: for long touchdowns. Packers had their ups and downs offensively. 194 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: You would have liked to have seen when the first 195 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: unit was in there with Rogers. You'd like to see 196 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: them capitalize off of the fake punt and get some 197 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: points there. That didn't happen. Rogers still was able to 198 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: throw two touchdown passes to Alan Lazard before halftime. UM 199 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: second half, Jordan's Love up and down lead some lad 200 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: some scoring drives, got the big screen pass four a touchdown. 201 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: I believe the Packers scored seventeen points if I'm not 202 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: mistaken with with Love at quarterback, two touchdowns in a 203 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: field goal. But then in the two minutes situations at 204 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 1: the end of the game, UM, things didn't work out defensively. UM. 205 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: Defensively again, a lot of a lot of ups and downs. 206 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: The trick plays seemed to kind of put the Packers 207 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: on their heels um defensively, and uh and and Matt 208 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: Lafleur not happy with with the defensive performance. This is 209 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: not what he wanted to see out of his defense 210 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: heading into the playoffs. And yes, in the second half 211 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: there were a lot of substitutions and a lot of 212 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: guys you know, running in and out. But there were 213 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: some there were some moments there in the first half 214 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: where Matt Lafleur wanted to see his defense really step 215 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: up and that didn't and that didn't happen, and he 216 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: wasn't he wasn't happy about that. Yeah, the most regrettable 217 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: part of this thing, I think where the trick plays, 218 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: because that's where a lot of the explosives kind of 219 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: came off of for Detroit. You can understand why Matt 220 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: Lafleur be a little frustrated about that, because ultimately, whoever 221 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: ends up being their divisional round opponent, they're gonna go 222 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: back and look at that be like, Okay, is there 223 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: something that we're gonna be able to take advantage of 224 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: here on the guys now, I would offer into evidence 225 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: and and as an insider inbox reader put this better 226 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: than I ever could we talked the entire season about 227 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: what Devandre Campbell has meant to this defense, how whort 228 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: and he has been as a quarterback, as a guy 229 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: that has a hundred fifty tackles and fifteen games or 230 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: whatever it ended up being. When you take him out 231 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: of the equation, the defense changes. You'd be remiss not 232 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: to admit that. That being said, in the adverse situations 233 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: and the explosives and the adversity moments Green they didn't 234 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: respond well enough to that. That's gonna be where they 235 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: need to find, you know, a little bit more um consistency. 236 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: They came out a halftime, I actually thought they played 237 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: pretty well. Got a couple you know, consecutive three and 238 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: outs that they earned. Yeah, that was that was where 239 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: it felt like the you know, the defense, the defense 240 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: was stepping up and potentially changing things. But then after that, 241 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, the Packers kind of pulled out some of 242 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: their pulled out some of their main guys and and 243 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: and went with went with the backups. And then and 244 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: then in the fourth quarter of the Lions were able 245 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: to put together that seventy five yard touchdown drive that 246 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: that gave him the lead for good and This is 247 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: where I agree with Aaron Rodgers, because you can create 248 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: whatever narrative you want out of this going into the 249 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: Divisional round game, and if they win a super Bowl, 250 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: you can say, well, they took the right up approach. 251 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: The way I look at it, though, I think this 252 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: game actually gave Green Bay everything that they needed. You know, 253 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: you had a good start, you got the fast start 254 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: offensively right thirteen place, seventy four yards. They've had a 255 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: hard time on that first scoring drive. They got that 256 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: taken care of. They had some drives there that were regrettable. 257 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: Then the offense finishes on a high note with that 258 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: scoring drive right before halftime. Defensively, they got kicked in 259 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: the teeth a little bit. I think that's something that 260 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: can kind of be sort of a wake up call 261 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: for them understanding what the standard is and understanding what 262 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: they have to accomplish in this first playoff game. That 263 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: being said, the only thing I will say about what 264 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: Detroit did is to me, it seemed like you were 265 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: kind of playing your little brother and Madden, and the 266 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: little brother was just like, all right, I'm gonna pull 267 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: out every trick in the book. I have nothing to lose. 268 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: There is no tomorrow, and you know you got you 269 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: got hit on a couple of things. If the Detroit 270 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: Lions were playing to get in the playoffs, I think 271 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: you see a little bit different offensive game plan for 272 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: what they tried to do. Now, I will admit and 273 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: I will submit into evidence. The fake punts are nothing 274 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: new for Dan camp. Well, this is the way he 275 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: runs this thing. But you do kind of drive the 276 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: car a little bit differently if you don't care about 277 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: what the car is gonna look like at the end 278 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: of the season. So that's the only thing I would offer, 279 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: not saying that teams in the playoffs here can't try 280 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: some of that trickeration on Green Bay, but the stakes 281 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: are much much higher than they were in week than 282 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: what Detroit had in Week eighteen. Yeah, I I totally 283 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: agree with you. There. A little shout out to our 284 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: sponsors West Serious x M. 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The Packers just don't 294 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, There's been some a lot of upheavil with 295 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: the head coaching positions, certainly different quarterbacks that have gone through, 296 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: and they never seems to catch a break in terms 297 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: of the receiver position in this division. I mean you 298 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: look at all the guys that you know, whether it 299 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: was Kenny Galladay for years, Megatron was a constant problem, 300 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: and then he got aman Ross and Brown coming through town. 301 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: I mean, that guy, he's gonna be somebody to keep 302 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: an eye on here in these years to come. I 303 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: just want to I wanted to make sure I mentioned 304 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: that before we got out of that game. Yeah, he 305 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: sure looks like he's the next go to receiver for 306 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: for the Detroit. It's gonna catch a hundred passes a 307 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: year once he figures everything. Holy cow. Yeah, that he's 308 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: um um. He is a he is a young he's 309 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: a young talent to watch while the Detroit Lions are 310 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: looking to build something here with with Dan Campbell. They 311 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: certainly they certainly have the have the fire in the attitude. 312 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: We talked about it all season long, how the Lions 313 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: played hard, and yeah they lost a lot of close games, 314 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: and yeah they lost a couple of blowouts too. They 315 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: weren't necessarily in every game, but Dan Campbell had those 316 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: guys playing really hard. The Lions are looking to build 317 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: something well. The Bears and the Vikings, both in the 318 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: NFC North, looking to completely start over and only moving 319 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: on from their head coaches, but they're their gms as well. 320 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur is suddenly the longest tenured head coach in 321 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: UH in the NFC North, just as he finishes his 322 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: h his third season here. I want to take a 323 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: look at the playoff picture, and we'll get into more 324 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: specifics about some of these matchups, especially in the NFC, 325 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: on our next show later this week. But I have 326 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts even before I go to the 327 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: NFC about that Raiders Chargers game on Sunday night, which, 328 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: as I'm sure y'all know, this setup was that the 329 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: winner was going to go to the playoffs, the loser 330 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: was going to be out, but because the Colts had 331 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: lost to the two win coming in Jaguars and essentially 332 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: blew their playoff spot with what should have been a 333 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: as easy a win to get in game as you 334 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: could ask for in a league like the NFL. The 335 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: scenario is available in which if the Raiders and Chargers 336 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: tied played to an overtime tie, they would both get 337 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: in and that would keep the Pittsburgh Steelers out. The 338 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: Steelers looking to steal the last spot that the that 339 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: the Colts had let get away and lo and behold. 340 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: It almost did play to an overtime tie. What what 341 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: were you thinking watching that? You know? It wasn't even 342 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: so much what I was thinking when I was watching it. 343 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: It was everything that happened afterwards. Like I don't know 344 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: if you've seen that clip, but that clip of Austin 345 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: Ekeler talking to I don't even know which member that 346 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: was of the last in Las Vegas Raiders where you 347 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: can kind of, you know, do some lip reading there 348 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: and then literally like the guy tells me, we were, 349 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, basically gonna kneel, and then l A calls 350 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: the time out. You've said it a number of different 351 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: times and we even you know, looked at the NFL 352 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: and analyze things. These are all decisions that have to 353 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: get made in the split second, in an instant, but 354 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: sometimes coaches overthink these things. And for Brandon Staley, who 355 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: by the way, is one of the brightest defensive minds 356 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: in the game today, has an incredible history probably in 357 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: terms of you looking like an indoctoration into defense, has 358 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: gotten the best education of maybe anyone in NFL recent 359 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 1: NFL history. And he called time out there when it 360 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: looks like Raiders are just going to be content to 361 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: run this thing, because I think no one I don't 362 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: think really has been talking about is the Raiders had 363 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: a lot to lose there too. If you make a mistake, 364 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: if there's an interception, if there's if there's a fumble return, 365 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: even lining up for a field goal, I mean there 366 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: was a blocked field goal that gets taken the other way. 367 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: You know there there's there's risk there. There there was 368 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: way more risk to the Raiders lining up for that 369 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: field goal than there was to just to just take 370 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: a knee, And I think there was I think there 371 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: was a sense. I think there was a sense. Now 372 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: the Raiders still just handed the ball off on third 373 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: and four. They didn't necessarily change exactly what they were 374 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: going to do. I'm still not sure if they would 375 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: have necessarily taken a knee before the time out was called. 376 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: Maybe they would have. But there was a sense that 377 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: because the time out was called with thirty eight seconds left, 378 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: that the Raiders had to be like, all right, we 379 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: we can't we can't just kneel on it because maybe 380 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: they want the ball back, and then they're gonna try 381 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: to throw pass and kick a field goal, so they're 382 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: gonna make us punt. Yeah, so yeah, so so it's like, 383 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: have you have to you have to still try to 384 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: play to win and uh. And then the Chargers Brandon 385 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: Staley says after the game, he calls the time out 386 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: because he wants to get his best run defense on 387 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: the field, knowing that the Raiders were going to run 388 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: the ball. Well, your best run defense gave up a 389 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: ten yard run that turned a fifty seven yard field 390 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: goal into a forty seven yard one and uh and 391 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: now you're going home in your season. It was an 392 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: absolutely unprecedented situation, never seen anything like it before. An 393 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: unbelievable comeback by Justin Herbert. The Chargers quarterback. They survived 394 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: six fourth downs, two us in the span of multiple 395 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: possessions to keep that game alive, five of them with 396 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: past completions, one with the defensive penalty. Surviving six fourth downs, 397 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: any one of those would have essentially ended the game 398 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: and ended their season, and they stayed alive all the 399 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: way until the final snap when that kick went through 400 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: the uprights. It was it was. It was absolutely incredible. 401 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: So what I said to you a couple of weeks ago, Mike, 402 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: you got to get Justin Herbert now, because in five 403 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: ten years, this kid is going to be something else. 404 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: I said it like I said it last week the Raiders. 405 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: As it turned out, the Raiders did the rest of 406 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: the a f C playoff field a favor in my opinion, 407 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: by getting Justin Herbert out of the because because he's 408 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 1: a quarterback who could who could get hot and go 409 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: on to run wherever you asked the Chargers to play, 410 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: and without being disrespectful to the Raiders, I think it 411 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: says a lot about the job that you know that 412 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: that coaching staff that's been left over there is done. 413 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, certainly Edgar Bennett, who has been there now 414 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: for a number of years, But I don't know if 415 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: anyone's fearing facing Vegas with Austin Ike. They're back from 416 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: the COVID list. With Justin Herbert playing the way that 417 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: he's playing right now. Man, that is a dangerous football team. 418 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: And because of how everything shuffled out, they are not 419 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: going to be in the party this year. So I 420 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: think there's probably a lot of teams in the FC 421 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: that are happy about that. Yeah. Well, on the NFC side, 422 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: the way things shook down, the San Francisco forty Niners 423 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: did beat in another very dramatic game. They beat the 424 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, coming back from seventeen nothing down, then 425 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: having to come back from seven points down in the 426 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: final two minutes to get the game to overtime. The 427 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: Niners win in overtime to get into the playoffs as 428 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: a wild card. So here it is. The seventh seeded 429 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles will be at the two seeded Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 430 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: San Francisco is the six. They will play at the 431 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: three seed Dallas and then Arizona and the Rams, meeting 432 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: number three of the NFC West rivals will be the 433 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 1: five versus the four. As far as the as far 434 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: as the NFC wild Card game, And from the Packers perspective, 435 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: it's really kind of simple from a from a timeline perspective, 436 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: the way the way the game's lined up in the schedule, 437 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: because the Eagles and Buccaneers are first. If the Eagles win, 438 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: they're coming to lambeau Field. If the Buccaneers win, then 439 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: you turn your attention to San Francisco and Dallas. If 440 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: San Francisco wins, the Niners are coming to lambeau Field. 441 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: If they don't, and if Dallas wins, then it all 442 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: comes down to that Monday Night the Cardinals and Rams, 443 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: and the winner of that Monday night wild card game 444 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: between Arizona and l A would be the team coming 445 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: to lambeau Field. So there's sort of a sequence to 446 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: it if you're if you're a Packer fan in terms 447 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: of how you follow this very different from last year. 448 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: If you remember when when when the the Rams as 449 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: a as a road wild card had beaten Seattle. But 450 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: then from the Packers perspective, we had to wait until 451 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: the Bears, who were the seventh seed, and we're playing 452 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: the next day. The Bears had to lose in order 453 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: for the Rams to come to lambeau Field. If the 454 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: Bears had won, it would have been the Bears coming 455 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: to LAMBA. So there was there was the sequence was different. 456 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: It was there, there was more uncertainty to it. This 457 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: one's just gonna be one game at a time. Maybe 458 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna find out right here, maybe not, and then 459 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: you go to the next game. And so the Packers 460 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: might know their opponent um at some point on late 461 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon or early Sunday evening, or they might not 462 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: know their opponent until very late in the evening on 463 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: Monday night. If it takes that long to to decide this, 464 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: it's it's an interesting situation. And obviously with a Monday 465 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: night wild Card game for the first time ever, it's 466 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: a it's a situation that hasn't really presented itself before. 467 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: Just before I get into that, has a team that 468 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: went to the playoffs a year ago ever seemed so 469 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: far away removed from that playoff run than the Chicago 470 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: Bears this year. I mean, I understand some things had 471 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: to fall their way to get into the Yeah, that 472 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: was that was an eight and eight Bears team that 473 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: got the newly created seventh you know, to get in 474 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: and then they weren't even they weren't even competitive in 475 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: in their playoff game as the as then with a 476 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: new quarterback and everything new quarterbacks, I guess I should 477 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: say it still didn't work out in Chicago. Okay, let's 478 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: talk about this thing. I'll be honest with you, Mike. 479 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: We have a bye this week. We're still working quite 480 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: a bit. We'll love some access this week, but the 481 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: weekend is going to be kind of open to us. 482 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: The weekend is our oyster in terms of how we 483 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: want to do this right. You're you're the guru with 484 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: the playoff stuff and all that. I'm telling you right now, 485 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm not watching the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Eagles game. 486 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: I just won't be. There's a four year old running 487 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: around that needs some attention. I'm gonna probably run some errands. 488 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: I will be glued to the television for that three 489 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: thirty matchup between San Francisco and Dallas, even if, even 490 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: if Philly pulls the upset. I want to see that 491 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: San Francisco team against a Dallas team that has looked 492 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: like a world beater at parts of this season but 493 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: also look fallible at other times. Where you get San 494 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: Francisco was I've said over and over again because the 495 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: most dangerous team in this entire field in terms of 496 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: where they are relative to that. That's how I've felt 497 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: the second half of the season, and and things are 498 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: so tenuous because of this injury that Jimmy Garoppolo is 499 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: dealing with. That that two minute drive with three absolutely 500 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: incredible throws that Garoppolo made on that game tying drive 501 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: against the Rams to get that game to overtime, that 502 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: was phenomenal. You would not know for a second that 503 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: Garoppolo is dealing with any kind of an injury when 504 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: when you look at those throws. But again, this is football. 505 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: If his hand hits somebody's helmet or you know, a 506 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: pass rusher tries to reach out and knock the ball 507 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: and his hand gets in an awkward position, this could 508 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: all you know, it could all completely change in an 509 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: instant for the forty nineers if any sort of aggravation 510 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: to that injury with Garoppolo. That being said, this is 511 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: a roster in San Francisco that is playoff experience, that 512 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: is playoff tested, and coming back from seventeen down on 513 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: the row against the division rival when your season is 514 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: on the line. This is now a San Francisco team 515 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: that that believes it can do anything. That that if 516 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: if i'm if I'm Kyle Shanahan, I bel I'm believing 517 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: my team is capable of anything. And this is a 518 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: team that has a chip on its shoulder. Man. They 519 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: made that Super Bowl run and then everybody they just 520 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: had all these injuries, just injury after injury after injury, 521 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: and and they've had to deal with that. I think that, hey, 522 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: we're finally back to where we need to go. We 523 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: need to be able to make a run here in 524 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: order to do it. But I think that's a very 525 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: dangerous team. And then also, I mean certainly you have 526 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots and Buffalo Bills facing off for 527 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: the fourteenth time this year. I think that's gonna be 528 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: a really intriguing game to watch. And then it all 529 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: comes down to Monday night. If if San Francisco doesn't 530 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: pull the upset, if Philly doesn't pull the upset, then 531 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers will be sitting there for the 532 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: first ever Monday night football playoff game, waiting to see 533 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: who their opponent is going to be. Yeah, well, unlike you, 534 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: I will be watching the Eagles and the Buccaneers because 535 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: your kids are graduated well, partly, yes, but if the 536 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: if the Eagles do pull off the upset, I have 537 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: to be ready to write something very quickly to put 538 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: on Packers doctor that the hells are coming to lambeau Field. 539 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: So I gotta be watching. I gotta be ready. That's okay. 540 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: I offered to help you need offer you did. I'm 541 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: just I'm giving you a hard time. Spend spend Sunday 542 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: with your with your four year old for as long 543 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: as you can. Um, But I I it's it's an 544 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: interesting it's an interesting slate of wild card games. I'll 545 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: be honest with you. Um I, I really liked it. 546 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: As much as I wasn't crazy about the seventh team 547 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: being added to the playoffs. I really liked it last 548 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: year when it was three games on Saturday and three 549 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: on Sunday. There was there was a there was a 550 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: rhythm and a symmetry to that. The fact that and 551 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: especially because it could impact, you know, the Packers knowing 552 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: their situation. The fact that there's now a wild Card 553 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: game on Monday night just it just doesn't it just 554 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: doesn't feel right to me. Um It's not really how 555 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: this is there. There there's a reason. Uh, there's a 556 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: reason playoff games in the NFL have always been played 557 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: on Saturdays and Sundays. So, um, I'm not sure. I'm 558 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: not sure if I'm going to be too keen on 559 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: Monday Night football in the postseason. But but it's here, 560 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: and I guess we have to deal with it. The 561 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: biggest thing is I'm just holding out judgment on this, 562 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: and and unfortunately only we only have purchased about another 563 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: five minutes of time here in the studio before we 564 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: have to get out. But uh, the reason I'm holding 565 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: out judgment is I just want to see how they 566 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: lay out the divisional round games. If it ends up 567 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: being that the team's playing on Sunday are then playing 568 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: on Saturday, and then the Monday night game is playing 569 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: on Sunday, I'm I think I'll be okay with it, 570 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: just from the standpoint of somebody's gonna end up getting 571 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: the short end of the stick there. That being said, 572 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: it just seems again I've warmed up. I even wrote 573 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: this an inbox. I've warmed up to the fourteen team 574 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: playoff field because I think it really does give a 575 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: real advantage Now to the conference champion of the regular season. 576 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: That makes sense to me. I actually am with that. 577 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: But we just one thing is never good enough. We 578 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: always got a kind of buds with it a little bit, 579 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: and I feel like that Sunday night, if you could 580 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: play the Monday game at noon on Monday, I think, okay, 581 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: maybe it makes a little sense. But you play one 582 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: team's playing at what freaking noon on Saturday and another's 583 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: playing on Sunday. Well, the first game on Saturday is 584 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: not till three thirty. But yeah, that's that's the one. 585 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: That's the basically the noon Saturday wild Card game from 586 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: last year has been shifted to Monday night, with with 587 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: the other five windows time windows on Saturday and Sunday 588 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: the same as they were a year ago. But but yeah, 589 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: we're out, We're out of time. We got to get 590 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: out of the studio because there's people waiting for us 591 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: to leave. So we're going to call it a wrap 592 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow 593 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: all of our coverage of the team. We've got it 594 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: all for you on Packers dot com for Westim Mike. 595 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, everybody. We'll see you next time.