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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants Huddle Him, Huddle Him in New

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Speaker 1: York Giants Podcast. We're back with another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Giants Huttle Podcast. I am John Schmilt. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us and our guests this week to

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Speaker 1: talk about the NFL Draft. Is the NFL Network Zone,

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Speaker 1: Kim Jones, Kim, it's good to see. How are you?

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing great, um, and the draft

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Speaker 1: is only days away. Kim was kind enough we pulled

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Speaker 1: hits from outside. Gave her some cover. But we can

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Speaker 1: talk some NFL drafting. Kim, and I think last year,

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Speaker 1: at this time, I think everyone was kind of focusing

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Speaker 1: on se Quan and it wasn't a leak or a rumor.

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Speaker 1: Dave Getlan pretty much told everyone that's what he was

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Speaker 1: gonna do with his press conference. This year, not quite

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Speaker 1: as obvious. Yeah, not everyone picked up on that last year, though,

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Speaker 1: that's true. Definitely a lot of other reports, including that

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Speaker 1: the Giants were just you know, hoping to move back

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing, um, you know, this year. I

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Speaker 1: do think it's a mystery. They could go in any

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Speaker 1: number of different directions. Obviously having the two first round

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Speaker 1: Um and I you think there's a lot of disagreement,

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Speaker 1: which isn't necessarily a bad thing for teams, for us

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Speaker 1: in the media to be speculating and all different levels

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Speaker 1: of who they're going to pick. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what you have this year with the Giants. Let's

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Speaker 1: start this way. Anyway, the Giants trade up to get someone,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to well, I mean, they have a lot

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Speaker 1: and after I think six of the twelve, that's not

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Speaker 1: doubt it because then I think you're talking about are

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Speaker 1: you giving up seventeen? Are you giving up a pick

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Speaker 1: next year? You know that kind of thing. Uh. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's that kind of draft, to be

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Speaker 1: And that's not the case. And I think it's interesting,

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Speaker 1: and we'll start at six and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are trying to rule the quarterback out. But based on

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Speaker 1: what Dave Geentleman said last week, he said one of

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Speaker 1: two things. One, if we have a quarterback with the

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Speaker 1: first round grade, that means we love them. And too,

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Speaker 1: he said he does believe there's at least one. He

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say how many super Bowl level quarterbacks in this draft.

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Speaker 1: So to me, that leaves the door open that if

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Speaker 1: interesting that Eli Manning, who doesn't you know how Eli speaks.

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Speaker 1: I mean we all do after all these years, but

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Speaker 1: But he did say he expects a young quarterback and

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Speaker 1: by that I took rookie because Kyle Aletta is still

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback. But I talk. I took that as

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Speaker 1: And I guess then the question and some people brought

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Speaker 1: And say you take um Haskins or Jones or Luck

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Speaker 1: you want to have conviction about him, even if he's

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Speaker 1: if you take a quarterback at six, uh, that's okay.

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Speaker 1: He will not be the best player available in this

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Speaker 1: draft at six, almost, sir. I can't imagine a scenario

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Speaker 1: can trump everything that that that makes that player more valuable. Right,

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Speaker 1: the position is more valuable. Everything revolves around the quarterback

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the top of the draft is rife with

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Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting. You covered the Jets for

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Speaker 1: But the Jets there seems to be a different word

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Speaker 1: be wrong about any of this. This year. Last year,

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Speaker 1: I have to believe if Bosa or Williams quinnin Williams

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Speaker 1: same exactly. You are exactly on top of it. The

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Speaker 1: to be careful with how far you're willing to go.

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Speaker 1: You might you might fall back far enough that you

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Speaker 1: telling you that. But a lot of them will start instantly,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the Giant's draft, whether they take

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Speaker 1: if they don't. If they take him, we're gonna at

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Speaker 1: But if they take a quarterback, we're gonna say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is the guy that is this is Eli's air

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Speaker 1: Um as they plan for Eli to leave and this

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Speaker 1: a fascinating question of where do they go from here?

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Speaker 1: Um So, where would they be if they do not

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Speaker 1: Made you choose do they pick a quarter back or not?

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Speaker 1: I think they do. I did not think so, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think they will. I thought at six and

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Speaker 1: And the more you hear about Haskins, Locke, and Jones

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Speaker 1: And you think more likely at seventeen than six? No,

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Speaker 1: to get him at six and not um, you know,

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Speaker 1: Imagine watching the Bengals of the Redskins, Dolphins picking your

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Speaker 1: likel don't pick our guys. Don't pick our guys. Kim,

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Speaker 1: great stuff, Enjoy the draft. Thanks so much for being

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Speaker 1: with us, Thank you for asking me. Kim Jones on

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Speaker 1: the Gjihants Suttle Podcast. Make sure if you're listening on

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Speaker 1: it out. Whether it's iTunes, Stitcher, uh, tune in, you

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Speaker 1: name it, we're there. Thanks to Kim Jones, I'm John Schunk.

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