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Speaker 2: Oh, by god, beess, please stop all that fut It's

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Speaker 2: Fight in the Dog. Welcome to the Big Bets on

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Speaker 2: Campus Sources edition, presented by wind Bet, my co host,

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Speaker 2: as always, the award winning news breaking Action Network's own

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Speaker 2: Brett McMurphy. First reported by our own Brett McMurphy.

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Speaker 4: Brett McMurphy is Sources.

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Speaker 2: And I am Action Network Senior Writer Colin Wilson, a

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Speaker 2: guy that keeps on fading Notre Dame. I keep losing

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Speaker 2: money on Notre Dame. Now I'm on some sort of

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Speaker 2: Navy week every week, I'm losing on Navy bets. Brett,

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Speaker 2: what is your takeaway from week six looking into week seven?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard your podcast with Stucky. I Stucky on

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Speaker 3: Navy every week. I guess you know. My biggest takeaway is,

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Speaker 3: you know probably what a lot of people have realized,

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Speaker 3: and that is Alabama. They now have no margin of

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Speaker 3: error for the college football playoff. I know. We'll discuss

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Speaker 3: that later in the show. Also, the Big Ten. Don't

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Speaker 3: look now, but the Big Ten may actually have a

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Speaker 3: path to getting two teams in the college football playoff.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that a little bit more. Iowa appears

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Speaker 3: to have a clear path to the Big Ten title

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Speaker 3: game being undefeated, where they could meet either a one

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Speaker 3: loss Ohio State or an undefeated Michigan. It could set

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Speaker 3: up where we could have two teams from the SEC

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Speaker 3: and two teams from the Big Ten. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 3: how that would suck for everybody not in the Big

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Speaker 3: Ten or the SEC. But there are two real possible

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Speaker 3: paths for that. To happen, but certainly at this point.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we've had forty ranked teams lose in the

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Speaker 3: first six weeks, almost seven a week. So I doubt

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Speaker 3: that's going to happen, but it is a possibility.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting into a lull in the schedule where

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Speaker 2: we just had two really hot weeks of big prime

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Speaker 2: time matchups and some upsets, and and and ranked teams

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Speaker 2: are losing it. I think it a rate greater than

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Speaker 2: to go back to our history of the college football playoff,

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Speaker 2: which is they have made decisions in the past where

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Speaker 2: two loss teams do not get into the playoff. G

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Speaker 2: five teams do not get into the playoff. We're I

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Speaker 2: think the collegeooball playoff committees is about to get backed

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Speaker 2: going to have to break after all this time. Or

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Speaker 2: Big ten and SEC. Even if it's like say Ohio

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Speaker 2: you make that your college Football Playoff.

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Speaker 3: That I mean that, I mean yeah, I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: undefeated Wake Forest? Everyone's forgot about them? What if they

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Speaker 3: what the power five undefeated team? You're right, this has

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Speaker 3: never happened before, but it could. It will be fascinating.

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Speaker 3: And then I know there's a lot of people like,

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Speaker 2: offense about how it's one of the best in the nation.

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Speaker 3: There's obviously something going on there with Spencer Rattler in

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Speaker 3: So is he just protecting Williams? So Williams doesn't say something?

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Speaker 3: You know, if Holly ask him, should you be the starter?

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Speaker 3: it seems like that Lincoln Riley is doing damage control.

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Speaker 3: you watch Oklahoma with Spencer Rattler, Caleb Williams should be

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Speaker 3: the starter. I don't think there's any dispute there, but

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of other things in play here. Yeah. Actually,

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Speaker 3: He said, if Spencer Rattler transfers, what happens to his

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Speaker 3: NIL deal? And I don't have the answer to that.

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Speaker 3: I checked with Darren Ravel, checked with some other people.

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Speaker 3: You know, if an athlete has an NIL deal with

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Speaker 3: in play with Spencer Ratler also, But there's a lot

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Speaker 3: Usually when you see a coach that's going out of

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Speaker 3: it tells you there's things going on behind the scenes. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: want to see that plays out the rest of this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. A deliverable now on my plate is that

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Speaker 2: I know three businesses that are having IL deals with

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Speaker 2: razorback players. I'd love to know the verbage behind that contract.

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Speaker 2: Not I mean, I mean I've quizzed on one of

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Speaker 3: Again, this is stuff we haven't encountered before.

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Speaker 2: So I have to bring up Urban Meyer. He's oh

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Speaker 2: But what was your biggest takeaway from all the athletic

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Speaker 3: Well, there was a lot of speculation and there still

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Speaker 3: So I reached out to half of the one hundred

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Speaker 3: coach in twenty twenty two, would you consider hiring urban Meyer?

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Speaker 3: don't think that's realistic. The group of five ads actually

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Speaker 3: real quick. A story, A funny urban Meyer story, at

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Speaker 2: So this is the segment where I get to ask

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Speaker 2: nearing the halfway point of the season. Which coach has

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Speaker 2: Oh those poor social kids. All right? Last week you

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Speaker 3: Okay, Colin my question earlier, when's the last time Miami, LSU,

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Speaker 3: College Football playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Before we e move out of this segment, is James

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Speaker 2: Franklin the first call there?

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Speaker 3: I mean it appears that way. It's easy to say that,

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Speaker 3: but again, I don't want to say I have inside

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Speaker 3: information that I know that's going to happen. I know

437
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Speaker 3: a lot of people will say, yes, he's the first call. Well,

438
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Speaker 3: that's their opinion. They don't know. I know, Mike Phone

439
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Speaker 3: is there's a close circle of individuals, small circle of individuals,

440
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Speaker 3: I should say, who knows what he wants to do.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the good news is he's got a

442
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Speaker 3: few weeks to do it, and no other jobs will

443
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Speaker 3: be filled before that one gets filled, so he'll have

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Speaker 3: his pick from wherever he wants to go, whether that's college, NFL,

445
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Speaker 3: whatever direction.

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Speaker 2: That is, all right, let's slide into our segment, the

447
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Speaker 2: AP Top twenty five versus the Action Network Top twenty five.

448
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Speaker 2: So Bretday was refreshing to see when I woke up

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning, because you and I are both doing our

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Speaker 2: own thing late Saturday night. It was refreshing to see

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Speaker 2: that our top ten is really kind of come. You know,

452
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Speaker 2: they finally kind of have an agreement, a little bit

453
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Speaker 2: of agreement with the top ten. But then after that

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Speaker 2: it just it gets mild. So at least towards the top,

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Speaker 2: we've got it figured out. From a gambling perspective with

456
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Speaker 2: oddsmakers and from an AP voter perspective, we got to

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Speaker 2: figure it out. But some of these we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to have a conversation about now. Kentucky is number eleven Brett,

459
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Speaker 2: you voted him number eight an Action network. They're in

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Speaker 2: the twentieth and I think, I mean, really, I feel

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Speaker 2: justified at having them where they were because I projected

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Speaker 2: the game minus twenty one and a half before Lions

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Speaker 2: came out. That's exactly where it came out. Now, I

464
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Speaker 2: think we're hovering around twenty three. As you and I record,

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Speaker 2: this is Mark Stoop's a candidate for the LSU job.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to get into that game.

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Speaker 2: It's sucking and I'll break that game down. Kentucky's doing

468
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Speaker 2: an amazing job per usual. I mean just the fact

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Speaker 2: that nobody there were no expectations for this guy about

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Speaker 2: six years ago, and now each year he is producing

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Speaker 2: teams that are grabbing attention of Kentucky fans into the

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Speaker 2: basketball season, which is not supposed to happen at Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: So is Stoops a candidate the LSU for the LSU job?

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Speaker 3: The question is would he want that job? I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's got an easier job at Kentucky because you're not

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Speaker 3: butting heads with Alabama and Texas A and M and

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Speaker 3: all those teams in the SEC West. Every year, and

478
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Speaker 3: look after the LSU game, excuse me, after the Georgia game,

479
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Speaker 3: there's no ranked teams left for Kentucky. So Kentucky could

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Speaker 3: end up with an eleven and one record and New

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Speaker 3: Year Six game. Sorry, I bumped Arkansas out the Sugar Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I've got Kentucky going there now, but they very easily

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Speaker 3: could be eleven to one going to New Year Six game.

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Speaker 3: Either way, Stoops is gonna get a new contract. They're

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Speaker 3: going to have to, you know, I'm I can't. He

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Speaker 3: may have got one last year. I don't remember, but

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Speaker 3: he will get another one. I certainly will be at

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Speaker 3: the top of any wish list for the job he's

489
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Speaker 3: done there, and he may just be happy there that

490
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Speaker 3: what they've accomplished. He's getting more resources. And again, you know,

491
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Speaker 3: you're not butting heads with the stronger SEC West. But

492
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Speaker 3: then I you know, in the East, you still got

493
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Speaker 3: to go against Florida and Georgia. For all these coaches now,

494
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Speaker 3: it's not necessarily I'm going to jump to this school

495
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Speaker 3: or this job because it's a better job. It's more

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Speaker 3: quality of life. Where do you think you can win?

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Speaker 3: And I don't think it's like the old days where

498
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Speaker 3: guys would jump just for money. You can get money

499
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Speaker 3: pretty much wherever you're at. Now. You're not going to

500
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Speaker 3: get nine million a year like Jimbo, but you're still

501
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Speaker 3: going to be pretty well off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be interesting to see there because really

503
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Speaker 2: it's interesting when I hear coaches talk about Northwest Arkansas

504
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: because quality of life and raising your kids and having

505
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Speaker 2: your family is I mean, if you're not a big

506
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Speaker 2: city guy, you're not going to go to LA You're

507
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Speaker 2: not going to You're not going to coach in a

508
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Speaker 2: city where there's you know, five hundred thousand people, I

509
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Speaker 2: mean a million people. Baton Rouge is a whole lot

510
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Speaker 2: more pressure than being the football coach for in Lexington Contry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what's the next coach kind of thing?

512
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Speaker 3: The guy before me won a national title two years

513
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Speaker 3: ago and now he's out the door. Right, Will that

514
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Speaker 3: impact potential candidates? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Brett Oregan came in at number nine

516
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Speaker 2: on your poll. They came in at number nine in

517
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Speaker 2: the AP there twenty second in the Action Network's Power ratings.

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Speaker 2: Cal might be heavily motivated this week with Tim to

519
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Speaker 2: on the other sideline for the Ducks. Does the winner

520
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Speaker 2: of the Ohio State Penn State game get a higher

521
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Speaker 2: College Football Playoff rank than Oregon. If Oregon is able

522
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Speaker 2: to stay as a one loss team.

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Speaker 3: Ohio State won't could because myself, like the committee, actually

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Speaker 3: value when teams win had to head matchups. I know,

525
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Speaker 3: I know your power ratings. Don't you have Ohio State

526
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Speaker 3: third and Oregon down in the in the fifty or sixties?

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Speaker 3: Just kidding there, But noon Oregon will stay there and

528
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Speaker 3: that's why I've got them ranked where I've got them

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Speaker 3: ranked because of the win at Ohio State. It was

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Speaker 3: at Ohio State. The loss at Stanford it's a loss,

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Speaker 3: but anyone that saw that game very controversial. Perhaps they

532
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Speaker 3: shouldn't have lost it. Bottom line, they did lose that game.

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Speaker 3: I just wonder going forward, you know how Oregon will

534
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Speaker 3: be able to deal after losing c J. Verdell the

535
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Speaker 3: running back for the season. They've got a couple other

536
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Speaker 3: season in injuries and the other thing that the committee

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Speaker 3: will consider as far as ranking Oregon. When Oregon lost

538
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Speaker 3: at Stanford, they're with that offensive coordinator Joe Moorehead, So

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Speaker 3: maybe they won't penalize them as much as maybe the

540
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Speaker 3: AP voters will so that's something to keep your eye on.

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Speaker 3: If Oregon can run the table and keep alive, the

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Speaker 3: PAC twelves slim playoff hopes.

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Speaker 2: So I'm really interested in Texas A and M. They're

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Speaker 2: in at number twenty one. They were twenty third year vote,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Action Network. I was pretty high on.

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Speaker 2: I got them in there at thirteenth. Five of the

547
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Speaker 2: AP voters did not rank Texas A and M after

548
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Speaker 2: the Alabama win. Of course, they have two losses. Georgia

549
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Speaker 2: and Kentucky are the only undefeated teams in the SEC

550
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Speaker 2: right now, and that's going to change after Saturday. You know,

551
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Speaker 2: one's going to beat the other and then we're just

552
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Speaker 2: left with perceivably the best conference in all of college football.

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Speaker 2: It just means more only having one undefeated team. If

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Speaker 2: some crazy world that Alabama drops to Arkansas or Auburn,

555
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Speaker 2: and in some crazy world that Georgia drops to Florida

556
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Speaker 2: and then loses the SEC championship game to a two

557
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Speaker 2: loss Alabama is a committee going to take a two

558
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Speaker 2: loss SEC conference champion If.

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Speaker 3: There are four teams with one loss or fewer in

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Speaker 3: the Power five ranks, and or Cincinnati's thirteen and zero

561
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Speaker 3: at that point in your scenario, that would mean Alabama

562
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Speaker 3: would have ranked wins against Florida, Ole Miss, and either

563
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Speaker 3: Arkansas or Auburn, if either one of those schools still

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Speaker 3: remain in the top twenty five. So that's three top

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Speaker 3: twenty five wins. That's decent, it's not great. Is that

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Speaker 3: enough to overcome two losses? I don't think so. Georgia

567
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Speaker 3: will have had top twenty five wins over Arkansas and Auburn. Again,

568
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Speaker 3: this is if they're ranked at the end of the year,

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Speaker 3: not when they played the game, so they may drop out.

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Speaker 3: Kentucky will probably stay in the top twenty five if

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Speaker 3: that means they're losing to Florida and then they beat Alabama.

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Speaker 3: So technically Georgia may only have two top twenty five wins.

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Speaker 3: Clemson doesn't count. They're not in the top twenty five

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Speaker 3: unless they get back in there. So yeah, Colin, if

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Speaker 3: if somehow, some way the SEC has Georgia in Alabama

576
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Speaker 3: with two losses, yeah, I think it's a very real

577
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Speaker 3: possibility that they could be left out. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the reason that I asked that is because

579
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Speaker 2: the Alabama offensive line had some issues. There were different

580
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Speaker 2: parts of the game where there was just too much

581
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Speaker 2: pressure on Bryce Young. The SEC West has talented teams.

582
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Speaker 2: I mean Arkansas and aubera talent. Am I saying they're

583
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Speaker 2: better in Alabama? No, they're not, but they are good

584
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Speaker 2: in the trench and they do have explosive playmakers. So

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that this whole Alabama is going to

586
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Speaker 2: sweep the rest of the schedule. I definitely don't think

587
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Speaker 2: they're beating Georgia, and I'm not really positive they're going

588
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Speaker 2: to run the rest of this schedule. So we'll see

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Speaker 2: how it goes. Let's move on to the Heisman Handicap.

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Speaker 4: This is your highs in handicap.

591
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: The Heisman Trophy is awarded to so these odds are

592
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Speaker 2: presented via win bet. The list keeps getting shorter. You

593
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Speaker 2: and I have been on the CJ. Stroud train at

594
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: fifteen to one, you and I talked about last week.

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Speaker 2: That's gone. It's plus five yeah, goodbye. We are now

596
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: at plus five point fifty, which we'll get to Ohio

597
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: State's odds here in a little bit. But there's no

598
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Speaker 2: value left on Stroud because of what Ohio State's number is.

599
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: The top of the Heisman board. Bryce Young two to

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Speaker 2: one Matt Krow two to one, Desmond Ritter, Jehan Robinson

601
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: fifteen to one. Amazing to see Bjehn Robinson still in

602
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: there at fifteen to one as a running back, Spencer

603
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: Rattler all the way down to eighty to one after

604
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Speaker 2: being the leader at the pole position all summer long.

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Speaker 2: And then I just have to mention, like, if George

606
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: is gonna win the National Championship and they're this great JT.

607
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: Daniels and Samir Wider one hundred to one, anything stick

608
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Speaker 2: out to you there?

609
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, one thing, never bet on the Heisman preseason

610
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: favorite because he's not going to win. And Spencer C

611
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler is exhibit one A. What are the odds

612
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: for Iowa's defense to win the Heisman? Because you know,

613
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Speaker 3: right now, I think they have as good a shot

614
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Speaker 3: as anybody. I don't like anybody on this list. I love.

615
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Speaker 3: You know, we talked about CJ. Stroud last week at

616
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Speaker 3: fifteen to one. I think that had great that had

617
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: great value. You still got a shot at that. You know,

618
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: It's like you can't even think who's who's coming on

619
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Speaker 3: the outside out of nowhere, you know, Desmond Richard, they

620
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: don't Yeah, Cincinnati's a great story, but they don't have

621
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Speaker 3: the schedule for him to have his quote Heisman moment.

622
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Speaker 3: Who's he going to have his heismant moment against USF?

623
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Speaker 3: Come on, you know, I don't think that's realistic. Bryce Young,

624
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Speaker 3: I think still has the best chance. If if, if, if,

625
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Speaker 3: if Alabama runs a table and he has a big

626
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: game in the SEC title game, that could give him

627
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Speaker 3: the late momentum to perhaps win this thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I hate to I hate to. Look.

629
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Speaker 2: This is where I stopped mentioning like these long shots.

630
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: I mean, Cave McNamara one hundred to one. I mean,

631
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Speaker 2: what Michigan has to do to get him that Heisman

632
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: trophy is Jaden Daniels is on the West Coast. I

633
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: refuse to acknowledge that a player in the PAC twelve

634
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: can win the Heisman. I'm not sure it's possible anymore.

635
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody stays up past nine o'clock at night.

636
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: I mean, when I look through the list, you know,

637
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Speaker 2: I mean, take Bigsby at two hundred and one. No

638
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: John Metchi, no Jack Conan, Notre Dame. That's all. I mean,

639
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: who's laying money on that Spencer Sanders undefeated three hundred

640
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: to one. Go Pokes, go pokes. All right, so we'll

641
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: stop the Heisman. No recommendation on Heisman betting this weekend, CJ.

642
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Speaker 2: Stroud is what we've been talking about all week or

643
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: for weeks. So we'll take a look at the board

644
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: next week and see if there's any value after. You know,

645
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: we got a couple of weeks coming up here where

646
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: there's not that many big Top twenty five matchups, so

647
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: that means it's perfect conditions for some of these guys

648
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: at the top of the list to pad their stats

649
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: and kind of separate themselves. So we'll see what happens here.

650
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to the playoff.

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00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 4: Payoff, the college football playoff payoff playoff. We'll talk about

652
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 4: playoff you kidding me?

653
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 2: Playoff again. These odds are via win Bet. You know, Brett,

654
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to start with the prop you and

655
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: I have been talking about from win Bet for weeks

656
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 2: on Alabama or Georgia to win the national title. Two

657
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: weeks ago, you and I discussed it at minus one

658
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: ninety last week minus two to ninety. Now with the

659
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: Alabama loss, Georgia or Alabama to win the National title

660
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: is now minus two twenty. And before you know, we

661
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: answer whether you're still on the train that you think

662
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: Alabama and Georgia is the side to bet on here? Alabama?

663
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 2: Of course, Georgia is power rated higher Alabama and our

664
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: Action Network power ratings would be a three point favorite

665
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: over Ohio State, a seven point favorite over ou and

666
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: that's the Action Networks three and four. So plus two

667
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: hundred near value for what the under underdog money line

668
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: would be versus Georgia in a title game. So what

669
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: I'm saying is like, if Georgia made to the national title,

670
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: the underdog is going to generate about a plus two

671
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: hundred value right now. And that's what the field is

672
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: being offered at in this wind bet prop. So which one?

673
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: Which side are you on? You want Alabama Georgia minus

674
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 2: to twenty or field at plus two hundred?

675
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, last week we told you

676
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: take Alabama and Georgia, and now, God, after the Alabama loss,

677
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: I would stick with it. I think Georgia is that

678
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: good and if Georgia is gonna beat Alabama, they're probably

679
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: going to win the national championship. And if Alabama can

680
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: beat Georgia. Then you've got two SEC teams in the

681
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: in the playoff. Instead of looking at the field, I

682
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: may look at I may take a flyer on Ohio State,

683
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: maybe Iowa, maybe Oklahoma, put off put even amount on

684
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: all three. Would that gets you better than plus two hundred?

685
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: I think it would. As opposed to the field, the

686
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: field's useless. There's like three or four teams that has

687
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 3: a shot other than Alabama and Georgia, so the field

688
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: is meaningless. I would take those three or fourteen, which

689
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 3: you can identify, play those teams and you know you're

690
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 3: gonna lose two, you may win one, but you're gonna

691
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: get better than plus two hundred value as opposed to

692
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: just blindly taking the field.

693
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I know people are gonna say, well, Texas

694
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: A and M just beat Alabama. Listen, we have said

695
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: all year. I said it all summer. Tex A and

696
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: M has the recruiting. They're thoroughbred in the recruiting world.

697
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: They've been top five in recruiting for like four or

698
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: five years since Jimbo has been there. They've always had

699
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: explosive players. They had a hurt offensive line a Nia

700
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: Smith was hurt during Arkansas you're gonna have to have

701
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 2: explosive offense to beat either of these schools, and you're

702
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: gonna have to get some stops. And the names on

703
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: the list, I don't know. Maybe Ohio State, but that

704
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: defense hasn't shown anything to me. Oklahoma, that defense just

705
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: got torn up. I mean, bretty. When you say there's

706
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: two or three names it could beat Alabama or Georgia,

707
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm struggling with the blue blood names that could try

708
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: to beat these two guys. So we'll see how that

709
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: turns out. I need you to rank the odds on

710
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: these one lost teams. The list is growing, it's going

711
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: to continue to grow. So who do you like better

712
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: from a value perspective? Right because I know from the

713
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: Big Bets on Campus Live show on Saturdays ten thirty

714
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: am Eastern that you very much like Alabama week after

715
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: week after week. So you have to say it from

716
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: a value perspective, which one you would buy right now?

717
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: So let's rank the one loss teams Alabama plus two

718
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: seventy five and this is to win the national championship

719
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: via win bet Ohio State ten to one, Penn State,

720
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: Penn State's one hundred to one, Oregon eighty to one,

721
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: Notre Dame five hundred to one, Arizona State three hundred

722
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: to one, and Lane Kiffin by the skin of his

723
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 2: teeth by one point. Even with Sam Pittman going for two,

724
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: ole Miss is eighty to one to win the national championship.

725
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: Out of all the one loss teams, who would you

726
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: be more comfortable laying some coin down on.

727
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: Ohio State's the only one. Penn State's got quarterback injuries,

728
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: Oregon's got injuries. Notre Dame has you know, fooled this

729
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: every week. They're not going to do it. I know stuck,

730
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 3: you loves, Arizona State not going to happen. Oh Miss

731
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: eighty to one. I thought eighties, like that's their over

732
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: under for every game. I think Ohio State ten to

733
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 3: one great value the rest of the schedule. They got

734
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: Michigan State. They got Michigan, You've got a power rated third.

735
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: I think that's that's a great value for Ohio State.

736
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: You get them into the semifinals, they take care of

737
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: I win the Big Ten title game, then you can

738
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 3: hedge if you want. If you don't feel so good about.

739
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: It, yeah, Ohio State is still the one with the

740
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: value on this list. I would never put a ticket

741
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: down anybody that has two losses, and of course Georgia's

742
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: number has been that ship sailed I think before the

743
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: season even started. Grabbing them months ago would have been

744
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 2: the right idea. So yeah, Ohio State at the current

745
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: number Alabama plus two seven, that is not enough for

746
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: a team that has one loss this early in October.

747
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure how oldness has a path. I mean,

748
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 2: and just the scenarios in my head is it. They

749
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: have to beat Texas A and M, they have to

750
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: beat Auburn, they have to be and they do have

751
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: a pretty easy schedule remaining, considering they pulled Vanderbilt in

752
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 2: South Carolina from the East Division. But I don't even

753
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: know how they get into the SC Championship game. But nonetheless,

754
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 2: win the national championship. And if you're gonna have Arkansas

755
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: scoring over fifty points, you're probably not gonna win the

756
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: national championship. So yeah, Ohio State is the one that

757
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: we're going to take again this week. I think. But

758
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: this is it. I said this with Stuck last night,

759
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: that this is it. CJ. Stroud, Ohio State, You're it's

760
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: time for them to just lay it on people and

761
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: these numbers are never going to get better. All right,

762
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: last question, Brett, what is your current college football playoff projection?

763
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: Right now?

764
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: You know what, Colin, We're out of time. I'm sorry

765
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 3: we got to go so quickly.

766
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: I've got question.

767
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 3: So okay, I'm gonna explain it. I'm not going to

768
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: say it's going to happen, but there is some madness

769
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: behind my projection here. I've got i one because that's

770
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: based on Iowa going thirteen and oh, I've got Oklahoma

771
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: two that's based on Oklahoma going thirteen and oh, i

772
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: have Alabama three that's based on Alabama going twelve and

773
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: one and beating Georgia in the SEC title game. And

774
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: I've got Georgia four that's got Georgia going twelve and

775
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 3: one and losing in the SEC title game. Love it,

776
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: hate it, whatever, there's a way for that to happen.

777
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: I am not very confident it will happen, but at

778
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 3: least this week, that is my projected four team college

779
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: football Playoff. Send any hate mail death threats to Underscore

780
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: at Colin one. He will ford the ones that aren't

781
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: too bad to me.

782
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what audio should be racked by our

783
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: producer faster you having Iowa at number one for the

784
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: Collegeable Playoff or me saying flat out that Arkansas can

785
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: beat Alabama. So I don't know which ones should be

786
00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: cut first.

787
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 3: Well, the one cut that needs to be in there

788
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: is you guarantee that Alabama will lose another game.

789
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: They're gonna lose the rest of the way.

790
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: Okay, we made a little little golf wager on that.

791
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, let's gets for Greenpeace. I'm gonna, oh, well,

792
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 2: well to figure out what we're playing.

793
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna wins.

794
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna sticky with Brett and say Oklahoma,

795
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 2: uh and Georgia. I'm a little I think Ohio State

796
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 2: is still gonna win the Big ten. You know that

797
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: I really need we need to check on the health

798
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: of Riley Moss and hopefully that Iowa defense can stand up.

799
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go with Georgia, Oklahoma, Ohio State. Here

800
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: it comes in Cincinnati. I knew Cincinnati, man, Yeah, yeah, Well,

801
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: you know in those odds right now, forty to one

802
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: for Cincinnati to uh win the national championship. By far.

803
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: I don't think that they can win the national championship,

804
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: but if there's props to make the playoff, keep your

805
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: eyes peeled wide over because this UCF game Lee. If

806
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: they win this game against Central Florida, Cincinnati essentially has

807
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: just one hurdle left on the schedule before they have

808
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: to play the conference championship game, which will be at Nippert,

809
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: So something to look out for. Brett, thanks for joining me.

810
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: This has been big bets. On Campus Sources edition Tomorrow

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Speaker 2: afternoon you can hear our Red Hag group of five experts,

812
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:31,600
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813
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814
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,520
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815
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: out tomorrow and late late Thursday night, Stucky and I

816
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 2: will return for our Week three betting preview. All right

817
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: here on the BBOC podcast. Brett has to get back

818
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: to interviewing sixty five different athletic directors about Urban Meyer

819
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: and I've got to get back to FAD and Navy

820
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: and losing more money. So Brett, thanks for joining me,

821
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: and I'll see everybody at the window