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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, y' know how we start off every

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Speaker 1: show with what's up with that dude? Well, yesterday had

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Speaker 1: a pickleball social. The kids weren't in school. It was

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Speaker 1: Indigenous people holiday for some kids and not other kids.

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Speaker 1: I'm like with y'all segregating the kids. I tell you

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Speaker 1: one thing. If it's a private school, if you're paying

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Speaker 1: money for that kid to go to school, that kid

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Speaker 1: is not going to any holiday, whether it's an official

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Speaker 1: government holiday or just the homies just saying, hey man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about today. They do not go to

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Speaker 1: school because we're paying for it. That's why it is

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Speaker 1: like that. They ain't got their money there, ain't got

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Speaker 1: the money in the bank. They're like, all right, we

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Speaker 1: got Indigenous people today. Now, I was asking my friends, love,

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Speaker 1: where your kids at all the school? I was like, anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's how that went. Yesterday had a pick aball social

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Speaker 1: that was fun. I'm playing a lot better right now.

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Speaker 1: My body's feeling good. My neck is on fire, and

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Speaker 1: it's weird. You know, former player, and you're like, damn,

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Speaker 1: I got some injuries. You always say how you feel like,

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good, and then you neck just burning

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Speaker 1: right now. So if y'all see me looking a little

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Speaker 1: stiffer than normal, it ain't for no other reason but

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Speaker 1: taking on that lead block practice Oklahoma drill or something

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Speaker 1: like that. So other than that, we had basketball practice yesterday,

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Speaker 1: very physical, yester ity biddies. We were trying to show

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Speaker 1: you God, I was like, you can't keep running once

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were on the floor, and I always

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Speaker 1: tell kids stay off the ground because the ground is undefeated.

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Speaker 1: The ground has never lost the battle with any athlete ever. Right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm just looking at kids, just bowling, pining and

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Speaker 1: just falling like Domino's trying to set moving screens which

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Speaker 1: gonna be illegal, which we can't do anyway. But hey,

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Speaker 1: they were just trying to do what we said and

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Speaker 1: to the eddy biddies. They had a good practice yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We're still undefeated. We'll see how we play this Friday.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, I am an amazing mood despite my

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Speaker 1: off the phone. No, lie, y'all about to cry? About

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Speaker 1: to cry? Why? Because we're about to have impact, all right,

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Speaker 1: and in this relationship, this partnership, this is gonna be strategic.

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Speaker 1: You guys, go to our website. Please go to Project

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Speaker 1: Transition dot org. Project Transition dot org never gonna forget.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has to be a part of this team right

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Speaker 1: I do, but more than that, just to explain our

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Speaker 1: what it is. So we have three in focus with

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Speaker 1: is intelligence. With our educational Empowerment series, what is that?

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Speaker 1: That's when we go out to the schools, We go

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Speaker 1: underserved are, and we meet with those kids in assembly

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Speaker 1: Yes we do, and those reinforcements bring them into our ecosystem.

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Speaker 1: Guess what We go from there through our mentorship, resources

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Speaker 1: and scholarship, we give them incentive to continue to grow

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Speaker 1: the higher education. That's real. So we're going out there

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Speaker 1: make sure we reinforce these values. We stay in support

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Speaker 1: of them. They're always in contact with us. Hopefully to

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Speaker 1: one day they win a scholarship through Project Transition. Y'all

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Speaker 1: got to be a part of this. Man the experiences.

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Speaker 1: We have one program called Leaving your Locale basically, leave

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Speaker 1: your borders wherever you're from, from East LA. You got

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Speaker 1: to get out of there. We got to take you

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Speaker 1: on the experience. We go, take you on the field trip,

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Speaker 1: the city, leave the state, et cetera. And we always

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Speaker 1: have our Sportsmanship as well, our last one where it's

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Speaker 1: a program called Everyone's Coach. So I'm using my network

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Speaker 1: pro athletes, former pro athletes, collegiate athletes, right, and they

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Speaker 1: go to the underserved communities and they give them specialized training.

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Speaker 1: They give them individual coaching and group coaching. Why because

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Speaker 1: y'all know how the game is going. They're taking the

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Speaker 1: athletes from there, right, and then they're shipping them out,

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Speaker 1: those specialized coaches. But we do. My network does, and

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Speaker 1: Project Transition does so support this so we can go

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Speaker 1: back to the community where I grew up, where I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be forgotten. Because right now the MJ my Son

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Speaker 1: is out here, he's all right, But what about me

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Speaker 1: Everyone's Coach program. Please support us. Go to Project Transition

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Speaker 1: it is. It's time for us to get into this show.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about things. Man, my man, Mario Crystal

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Speaker 1: ball Man. He made the wrong call, the wrong decision

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Speaker 1: Hurricanes game. We saw him losing Georgia Tech. We all

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Speaker 1: saw it went down. Don't want to bore you with

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Speaker 1: how it feels to be betrayed by your damn head coach,

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Speaker 1: because I know we've all been there on some level.

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Speaker 1: If we play sports, you know that call that came

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Speaker 1: the authoritie to say anything, and you run that call

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Speaker 1: to futility and it doesn't work out, and you look

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Speaker 1: to the side better than I did because my neck hurt.

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Speaker 1: But you look to the side and you're like this, mother,

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Speaker 1: what just happened here? Okay? So let's recap final moments

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Speaker 1: of the game. Miami opted to run the ball thirty

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Speaker 1: Guess that wasn't fun enough, so then they up twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen Don Cheney junior fumble. Georgia Tech would coover win

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Speaker 1: from Haines King Kristin Leary. Let's go to war. Okay, now, coach,

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Speaker 1: it's one thing to gamble. See, this is not even gambling,

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Speaker 1: because gambling is you're spending your money in the hopes

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Speaker 1: losing some money. But it's yours. I don't even call

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Speaker 1: what he did as a head coach gambling. We gotta

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Speaker 1: you money. You wouldn't earn everything I have, yet you

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Speaker 1: have to earn my respect. You have to earn my trust,

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Speaker 1: but you force it and it's in force just because

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Speaker 1: can't bark because I can't bite. What's the use of barking?

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Speaker 1: Bark back of the coach? See what happened to you?

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Speaker 2: Benched?

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Speaker 1: Passive? Aggressive, forgotten? So you're sitting there like this, sucker.

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Speaker 1: Everybody on the field gotta know kneel down. First of all,

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Speaker 1: it's always this, why why why? Everybody going to war? Right?

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Speaker 1: What you're doing coach checking at the second button is

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Speaker 1: still good on the polo. You call them all right,

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Speaker 1: so game over, But we gotta go to have some

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Speaker 1: more contact for fun, for sport, for what we already

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Speaker 1: won the game. So I've been in this situation before,

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Speaker 1: great coaches, and even great coaches make bonehead plays, bonehead calls.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's human chess. Play the

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Speaker 1: that money neck ain't on fire. It's a real human

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Speaker 1: the crazy, all right. So let me give y'all some

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Speaker 1: look at the team. The team now has a loss,

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Speaker 1: The players have a loss, the players shot at making

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Speaker 1: the college football playoffs. Slimmer, not gone, but slimmer. Right,

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Speaker 1: All of that comes back on us, and that criticism

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Speaker 1: and then you're gonna say my bad. I remember it

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Speaker 1: my bad. I look at that coach, coach calling me

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Speaker 1: a stunt. He said, all right, I want why, I

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Speaker 1: want you to run that et and want right inside

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Speaker 1: him because they ran to play outside and ran scored

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Speaker 1: touch that everybody, Why get contain you? Sorry overplay boo.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey man, can you grab the mic?

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Speaker 1: Can you go upstairs to the PA booth and tell everybody.

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Speaker 1: You called that bs and I was just doing what

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Speaker 1: you said and I shouldn't have crazy? Is that right?

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Speaker 1: And this is not even Mario's first rodeo or first

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Speaker 1: blunder in this situation, got a propensity to doing these

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Speaker 1: know this happens to you. Got at work it god'sn't

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Speaker 1: or I ooh, ain't nothing better when you're looking at

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Speaker 1: thumb now because you ain't believe that's crazy? Right? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I hated that all right, So what you think about

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Speaker 1: this situation? Because I know Rock Party? Where's confidence? Is? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Where do you rank Rock Party in the NFL? Right now?

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Speaker 1: At quarterback? Is he top ten? Top ten? Sound easy?

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Speaker 1: And then you'd be like, oh that name, I say

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Speaker 1: top ten, I say top ten. I'll give him a

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Speaker 1: like he's playing like eight. He's playing like eight. All right,

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Speaker 1: the team is playing like ten, but he playing like eight.

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Speaker 1: Let's see it, and I mean ten, like a ten

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Speaker 1: out of ten. They're undefeated? And is this a simple

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Speaker 1: career hiccup? Like remember Jimmy G. It was Jimmy G

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Speaker 1: seven to o one got paid, Brock Party nine to zero?

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Speaker 1: Where the money at? If he does this this year,

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Speaker 1: it's a rap he getting paid? Or does this look

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Speaker 1: like longevity hiccup? Like watch out? It might be a

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Speaker 1: little more Jimmy G. Even though that's a winner, it's

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Speaker 1: still not even though I love Jimmy G. Or is

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Speaker 1: this long? Jeffety and now Brock parties? That dude, what

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Speaker 1: do y'all think about that? Taking y'all back to Columbia

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Speaker 1: one dollar dances at the plex, we used to go here,

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Speaker 1: Come on, who's did every single person that heard that

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Speaker 1: song do the same thing? Squad? And to do this

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Speaker 1: in that. I was in that impression those impressiable years.

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Speaker 1: I'll just do whatever I saw on MTV raps. Who's

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Speaker 1: just bouncing from your boy? Oh? Oh you just bouncing

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Speaker 1: shait Oh had to do it. It was so hype.

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Speaker 1: I had to do it. Oh, I remember them days.

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Speaker 1: A dollar party, next level man, go to Project Transition

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Speaker 1: greatest excuse you leave a recurring donation weekly, monthly. Guess

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Speaker 1: what I seen U D's book. All right, now, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about Rich Paul and WOA and Shams. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to all the parties involved in this war in basketball. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Rich Paul, we know he is super agent, believes that

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Speaker 1: the ongoing competition between Wold and Shams is great for basketball,

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Speaker 1: is good for everyone. Let's get to the bottom of

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Speaker 1: why he thinks that. Now, y'all remember back in the

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Speaker 1: days when wol looked like he was beefing with Lebron

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Speaker 1: James and his camp, Right, he was really critical of

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Speaker 1: Lebron James. Let's just say that maybe he doing his

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Speaker 1: job but in a critical wait and that led to

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Speaker 1: expectations that they wouldn't get along. They weren't cool. Friction

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Speaker 1: between Wolves and Clutch Sports, which is Rich Paul's agency

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Speaker 1: that represents Lebron and all the NBA, not eight percent

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Speaker 1: of the NVA. It seems like goodness. Now, over time,

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Speaker 1: Wolves build a relationship with Clutch Sports and Lebron's camp

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Speaker 1: relationship were about to talk about that even assistant in

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Speaker 1: creating leverage for Paul and his client Ben Simmons when

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Speaker 1: Simmons wanted to leave Philadelphia. Who starting to get close

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Speaker 1: to that line? Get close to that line? So Shams

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Speaker 1: he represented by UTA previously now managed by the Montag Group,

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Speaker 1: not directly by Rich Paul. All right, y'all know how

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Speaker 1: this is about to go. So as comments are seeing

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Speaker 1: in the context of his interests maintaining good relationships with

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Speaker 1: two of the most influential NBA insiders, both woes and shams, right,

486
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Speaker 1: because those guys get the information out to you guys,

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Speaker 1: breaking news, et cetera. Now, a lot of y'all don't

488
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Speaker 1: like it. A lot of y'all disagreeing with Rich Paul,

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul, what's up, homie, feeling that the focus on

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Speaker 1: inside of the news is taken away from the game

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Speaker 1: itself and it's making it more dramatic and all this

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Speaker 1: drama and all this crazy chaos by who is what

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Speaker 1: and what they're feeling and leverage and trying to get

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Speaker 1: in and out of situations instead of just talking about

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Speaker 1: the damn game. And that's why there's a decline in

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Speaker 1: the ratings for the NBA. That's what you fans are saying,

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Speaker 1: and in general, right, here's a quote, the way that

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Speaker 1: they do their jobs and the commodification of info nuggets

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Speaker 1: has made NBA content less about the game and more

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Speaker 1: about the drama. H with so much drama in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: is tel that I got wrapped to reds oh Man

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Speaker 1: so interested. Paul acknowledges the importance of attention and awareness

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Speaker 1: in today's NBA, where marketing and branding play a significant role.

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Speaker 1: Says he says attention awareness matter more than ever, but

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Speaker 1: today's NBA news breaking may not actually be in the

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Speaker 1: best interest of the league ors players long term. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what he says. Maybe maybe not because the decline

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Speaker 1: in the ratings is not supporting that. Oh. I love

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Speaker 1: the fact that we're always talking about off the court things,

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Speaker 1: off the court issues. So where do you guys land

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Speaker 1: on this one? Want to start there? Because where I

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Speaker 1: land on it. I look at all of the info

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Speaker 1: wars as condoms to the meat and potatoes meant potatoes

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Speaker 1: is ball, mean potatoes is championships, mean potatoes is stars?

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Speaker 1: Now what do the stars want? I love that, father,

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Speaker 1: I love that. I mean, look, hot dogs are good,

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Speaker 1: but hot dogs are relish. Oh even better chili cheese.

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Speaker 1: Chili cheese relish mustard. Ooh you got that? French is

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Speaker 1: not any kind of mustard. Don't great, papau me, French

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Speaker 1: is on that thing next level right? And to me,

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Speaker 1: that's what they do. They give you the storylines, they

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Speaker 1: give you the intel, They give you the perceived thoughts

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Speaker 1: or sometimes direct thoughts of what the player is actually

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Speaker 1: going through and thinking of I like it. I remember

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Speaker 1: I used to get agents calling me when I was

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Speaker 1: on networks all the time for stories and I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh okay, and they wanted me to talk good or

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Speaker 1: just know about a situation. I won't call an you

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Speaker 1: agents out because I don't think you called me in

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Speaker 1: that spirit. And I never took the and everything they

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Speaker 1: told me when in one year Illai, I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna take care of your boy. That's that's

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Speaker 1: your client. I'm listening. I respect you, and I respect

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Speaker 1: your relationship, and I ain't gonna ever go in unnecessarily

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Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna take care of him unnecessarily. That

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Speaker 1: ain't how I play. But I did play with people

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Speaker 1: who play like that. I just be like, dog, we

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna talk about that, Nah, I don't wanna talk

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Speaker 1: about that. Why you know what? He couldn't say his

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Speaker 1: boy was representing that dude, And I was like, well then,

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Speaker 1: dogg we gotta talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: How you gonna talk about it? Figure that out because

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Speaker 1: we can't avoid this. But those politics happen all the time. Yes,

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Speaker 1: your favorite TV guy is getting phone calls from some player,

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Speaker 1: his representation, his agent to say this, and don't save

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Speaker 1: That happens all the time, and I couldn't stand it.

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Speaker 1: But I ain't care about it because I wasn't gonna

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Speaker 1: listen to him or do what they wanted to say,

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Speaker 1: So I didn't care at all. So what do you

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Speaker 1: think of rich? Well? You think of his opinion? Right?

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Speaker 1: Y'all think it's good that they the insiders, are having

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Speaker 1: this war, having all this information out there. Is that

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Speaker 1: good or bad for the NBA? And do you agree

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Speaker 1: that the focus has shifted from on the court to

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Speaker 1: break your news on your phone? I don't think it's shifted.

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Speaker 1: I think they supplement each other obviously, the foundations the

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Speaker 1: game on the court. Then you just pour some of

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Speaker 1: these spice and these nuggets from those on the outside, right,

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Speaker 1: the shams, the woges of the world, who'll go out

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Speaker 1: there and kind of fill in the blanks as we

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Speaker 1: watch that product. But tell me what you guys think,

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Speaker 1: are they taking this focus away from the product? Are

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Speaker 1: they adding to it? Eh? By y'all know what to do.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get the Pro Football doc real fast. Is

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Speaker 1: dot org. All right, whatout wasting anymore time? Let's bring

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Speaker 1: in my doctor David Chow, pro football doc who is

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Speaker 1: now on the show every single week to take the

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Speaker 1: deepest dive that we can take into sports injuries. So

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Speaker 1: doctor Chow, oh Man, without further ado, let's speak about

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Speaker 1: right now the Giants and Saquon. There's some more stuff

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Speaker 1: going on even with Jones. What's happening over there? Brother?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I loved your previous segment about look

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Speaker 2: the way media breaks news, right, there's no Woodward in

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Speaker 2: Bernstein and Watergate, like literally it's the agent telling the

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Speaker 2: reporter or the team telling the reporter. And that's great.

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Speaker 2: We get news that way, but there's spin attached to it.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't think that reporter needs to hold

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Speaker 2: the party line, because look, I know football better than

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Speaker 2: basketball obviously, but if one of the big boys doesn't

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Speaker 2: spin it the right way, you know that agent, our

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Speaker 2: team's going to the other big boy next, right, And

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Speaker 2: so there's just some of that. There's nothing wrong with that,

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Speaker 2: that's just the way it works. And what I luckily

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Speaker 2: built our premise, a sports indry central on is our

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Speaker 2: eyes and our insider knowledge, never insider information. Insider knowledge

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Speaker 2: of what the game is as opposed to insider information

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Speaker 2: in trading in that behold it and that's the fundamental difference.

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Speaker 2: So with Top Giants, look, I don't hate on the

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Speaker 2: Giants at all. I don't know coach Brian dabol but

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Speaker 2: like weeks ago we said sa Quon's got a high

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Speaker 2: ankle spraying period, end of discussion. It's not an ordinary

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Speaker 2: ankle sprain. And then that initial Thursday game is like

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Speaker 2: no chance. The next Monday night game, one extra day,

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Speaker 2: I don't think. So this next week we said questionable

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Speaker 2: at best. This week I think he is finally ready

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Speaker 2: to try and play. And guess what, it's the same

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Speaker 2: timeline as the twenty nineteen high ankle spraining. Three games

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Speaker 2: missed and we're just try and decipher it. Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 2: I like delivering good news. Daniel Jones left the game

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Speaker 2: after getting beat up. The man took sixteen sacks. It's

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Speaker 2: six quarters of play. Come on, I mean sixteen sacks

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Speaker 2: and six quarters of play, and you saw and you know,

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Speaker 2: Sports Injury Central, the whiplash type injury, and we said, thankfully,

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Speaker 2: sure it hurts, but I don't think this is long term.

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Speaker 2: And there was a lot of scare because he said

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Speaker 2: it felt like twenty twenty one and twenty twenty one

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Speaker 2: is a week twelve neck injury where he missed the

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Speaker 2: final six games of the season. Never had surgery on

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Speaker 2: the neck. He had some sort of thigh right or

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Speaker 2: other procedure unrelated. But we looked at the video and go,

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Speaker 2: it's not the same. It's not a disc it's not

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Speaker 2: a compression. It was a hyper extension. So we're optimistic.

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Speaker 2: Now the news coming out of the Giants is now

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Speaker 2: they have some optimism. He's not for sure playing next week,

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Speaker 2: but it's not season ending. We'll see. I think he

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Speaker 2: still has a chance to play next week, although maybe

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Speaker 2: you need that offensive line fixed before he comes back.

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Speaker 2: There obviously helped take some presure offer, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: so that's what we do. We just go by our

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Speaker 2: own thing. We don't I mean, whether it was Travis

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Speaker 2: Kelcey in game, like Tony Roman was talking about high

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Speaker 2: ankles and some other media reporters talking about hig ankles,

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Speaker 2: like no that's a low ankle sprain. He's coming back

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Speaker 2: into the game.

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Speaker 1: Kind of why would we can not give you the

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Speaker 1: same timeline, like give me that layer. I know this

633
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: is two coincidental for it to just be like look

634
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Speaker 1: or just like a coincidence.

635
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: Look, why show people just because of competitive advantage? That's

636
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: how the league works and different things, Okay, and you

637
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 2: know there's different spins and different ways to do this. Look,

638
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: Marcellus confession, not even confession. People know, Okay, I was

639
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 2: on the other side. So if you're an attorney, you're

640
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: the DA and you're a prosecutor, and then when you

641
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: just quit your government job, you go to the defense

642
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: because you know how prosecutors work, right, and there's an advantage.

643
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: So my advantage is I was on this side of

644
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: the equation. I was on the team side of the equation.

645
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: You know, I'll give you the inside skinny. I was

646
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: involved on the charger side of spinning the news when

647
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: Philip Revers had a torn ACL going into that AFC

648
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: Championship game, and you know doing it. So you want

649
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: the deep dive, here's the deep dive. Okay. If you

650
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: look at my Twitter page, the background picture not the

651
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: profile the header. I don't know, whatever you call it.

652
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: If you look at the roof, you'll recognize it. It

653
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: was the last game in the RCA Dome and I

654
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: am walking off with Philip Rivers and we already knew

655
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: we had a torn ACL. He was trying to get

656
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: back in the game. I was like, Philip, you can't

657
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: do it. On the plane ride, he already talked about

658
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: the knee scope and whatever to take care of the

659
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: meniscus and play with a brace with the ACL, we said,

660
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: just relax, we know, think on it. He's like, I

661
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: want to play. I want to play. I want to play.

662
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: I said the next one, let's meet at seven am.

663
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: Don't have anything to eat or drink. We'll see about

664
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Speaker 2: the surgery and see we can get you going. So

665
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: we met with the head coach, the head athletic trainer,

666
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: myself and Philip North Turner. Coach Turner says, Philip, Billy

667
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: Bullock has got this. Go take care of yourself. Philip says, no,

668
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: I want to play. Let's go.

669
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: Let's go.

670
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: So we still decide to go through and push through.

671
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: And he did play in that AFC Championship game. By

672
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: the way, he said it's a chance to play with

673
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. I don't know what I'm going to

674
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: get back there. And that was his only AFC Championship game,

675
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: that one.

676
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, you said pushed through? What does push through mean?

677
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: That was the part that I'm like, what is push through?

678
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: Did you have a quick surgery? Like, how do you

679
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: push through?

680
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: Simple surgery? And and he's wave TIPA. So this is

681
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: why I can talk about it. Simple n scope surgery

682
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: to take care of his meniscus. And then we're bracing

683
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: up the ACL to play, okay, and and so he

684
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: leaves the room to head the surgery and then we say, well,

685
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: coach says, well, what I'm going to talk to the

686
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: media next? What should I say? And he goes, he goes,

687
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say MRI pending. And I said okay,

688
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: And I said, coach, what are you going to tell

689
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: him tomorrow? Right? And he goes, what should I tell him?

690
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: I said, well, he does have an MCL component. You

691
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: would not be lying if you talked about the MCL. Right.

692
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: So I'm not hating on the Giants. I was involved

693
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: on the other side. Okay, this is just the way

694
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: the game is played. That's all I'm trying to say, right,

695
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not. And I'll tell you the funny

696
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: anecdote because like, one of the reason I love doing

697
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 2: the segment is I love the deeper dives and honestly,

698
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: we don't get to chattering now, so this to me

699
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: is just storytelling and swopping. Right. So we're in New

700
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: England and we're in Look, you know Buddy was on

701
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: that team. Okay, yeah, yeah, And originally I'm texting with

702
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: Buddy and like, oh, let's try and meet up. I

703
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: got team meetings on you know whatever, and he sends

704
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: me a text. I kid you not. He sends me

705
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: a text saying, we all know seventeen has a torn

706
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: acl and is not playing Sunday. You can tell me.

707
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: We all know, but tell me yeah, but like you know,

708
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: and at all now to this day, you know, rest

709
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: in peace. I don't know whether he was fishing or

710
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: actually knew something, right, but I just said l ol

711
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: of them laughed, right, I mean, I just like whatever.

712
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: So there is a lot of gamesmanship that goes on,

713
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: and this is why it happens. And like I said,

714
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: no no hate to the Giants or any team. Everybody

715
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: does it to some.

716
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: Extent, explain this gamesmanshit, because you're right. I mean, look,

717
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: it's almost like a parallel to me being a former

718
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: player and a broadcaster and now telling everyone, Hey, there's

719
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: a veil there, there's a curtain there. Let me tell

720
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: you behind that, what's really going on? Now? What's going

721
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: on behind Jonathan Taylor's contract? Because we were just on

722
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: this show and there was injury here and not tradable there,

723
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: and then now you got a big deal. What happened?

724
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: I said, from the beginning, my feeling was it was

725
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: hiding behind health if you look go through it, both sides,

726
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: hiding behind health. And congratulations to Jonathan Taylor and his

727
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: agent for playing it out. Well. He wasn't getting the

728
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: contract right. So originally the colt said, oh, we're not

729
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 2: paying you, and he's like, oh, I don't like that.

730
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: And then he said, well, I might not come to camp, right,

731
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: And then the colt said, well, if you don't come

732
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: to camp, there's this back issue and we're going to

733
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: put you on NFI non football injury, which means you

734
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: won't get paid and this that the other, and he says, well,

735
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't have a back issue, but I do have

736
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: an ankle issue from last year still and we're like, hey,

737
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: that ankle issue we always thought was going to be

738
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: fine this year and we didn't see anything problem with it.

739
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: And so he doesn't come to camp, he's rehabbing on

740
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: his own, and then end up putting him on four

741
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 2: weeks out for the start of season because the ankle.

742
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 2: But wait a minute, and the preseason they were trying

743
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: to trade him, they didn't get a trade partner. How

744
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: do you trade a player that's injured, So how did

745
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: you put him on? So it'll sort of move countermove

746
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: And we said when this practice window opened that we

747
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: don't think it's his ankle. I think he's gonna be okay.

748
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: And well, at he gets a new deal, he's ready

749
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: to go. There's no ramp up time. Now. Admittedly Zach

750
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: Mass got the majority of the touches and the more yards.

751
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: But here, here's the thing. If you're the Colts and

752
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: you just paid Jonathan Taylor, you're gonna run him into

753
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: the ground and risk a hamstring or something else in

754
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: week one back or you're gonna say, getting flows split

755
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: with Zach Moss, who's doing well and by game flow

756
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 2: he was getting a lot of yards play him because

757
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: you paid the other guy. He's not like you paid

758
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: him and you don't like him. You paid him and

759
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: you want to make sure he's okay. So to me,

760
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: all of that dynamics sort of made sense on both sides, right,

761
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: They were just playing the game, you know, in terms

762
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: of the way that it is. So no hate to

763
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: the Colts, no hate to Jonathan Taylor's agent, well played

764
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: on both sides.

765
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: Well do we hate the state of Anthony Richardson right now?

766
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: Because what three injuries in five weeks as a rookie?

767
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: We hate net? Right?

768
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 2: Well? You know, I if I'm accused of anything, it's

769
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: I should be accused of defending players and ultimate respect

770
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: for what players put their bodies through. And I think

771
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: it is a complete insult when you hear Turns throwing

772
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: around the kid's injury prone. He is not injury prone.

773
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: He had a week one knee contusion that he played through,

774
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: he got his bell rung concussion missed week three, and

775
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: now he got driven down on his shoulder. What do

776
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: we have in common there? Injury prone is someone else

777
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: takes the same hit and is not injured, and you

778
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: are injured? Right to me, anyone who takes that hit

779
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: gets injured. What do we have in common? There three

780
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: design run plays. There is more danger when you run

781
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: and you extend plays out of the pocket. Now, if

782
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: you want to tell me the way Anthony and Richardson

783
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: plays makes him prone to injury, I'll buy that. If

784
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: you drive like crazy, you're prone to get into an accident. Okay,

785
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: doesn't make that. I think he can be proned. Look,

786
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: our boy, Philip Rivers was not prone to injury. Well,

787
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: he got a share of injuries in the pocket, but

788
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: he didn't extend place right, didn't really run, and he

789
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: had the all time streak. Now, there were injections of

790
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: goll that he did a lot of things, but he

791
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: didn't put himself at that risk because you know he's

792
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 2: got you know, army boots on his feet as he runs, right.

793
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: I mean, and but the bottom line is it's the

794
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 2: style of play. Now, will this continual if he keeps

795
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: doing that? I mean, you are at more risk, you

796
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 2: know when.

797
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: You do that. I don't ten injuries this year. He's

798
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: on pace like injury prone. Look, I was injury prone,

799
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: and I don't need anyone to say, oh no, you weren't. Yeah,

800
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: it was because you know why. I know guys who

801
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: played my position who played never had a surgery, never

802
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: were hurt, didn't have any of the soft tissue issues

803
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: or the surgeries. And then there are guys like me

804
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: who had five surgeries in their ten year career. Then

805
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: they're guys like Mark Schliff who've had twenty five surgeries

806
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: in a twelve year career. And some point one of

807
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: you guys are injury prone and one of you guys

808
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: or not. We gotta make that line right there, And

809
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: Mark Slariff is I am sounds like Anthony Richardson already

810
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: in five weeks has had three injuries and missed multiple games.

811
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: That's not injury prone.

812
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: Well, there's no question his running style and his success

813
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: leads to more injuries. I mean, and the question is

814
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: how are you going to change that? But I just

815
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: make the distinction of injury prone versus prone to injury

816
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: only because I have too much respect for all athletes

817
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: to say, because injury pone a plot almost means that

818
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: you're not taking care of yourself, You're not doing the rehab,

819
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: you're not doing the workouts in the off season to

820
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: get right and I think that's disrespectful.

821
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: No, that's a great way of saying it. I do

822
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: respect you, respect and athletes for that, even though we

823
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: know no, it just means the results.

824
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 2: I'm injury prone. I'm out of shape, in my back hurts.

825
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 2: I'm injury prone, right right?

826
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: He give it to me About this Shoan Washson, I

827
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: thought this was weird. I had to scratch my head.

828
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: You're cleared to play, but you don't play. What's that about?

829
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: That's really interesting? You know, we looked at video and

830
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: we thought it was a lateral shoulder deltoy contusion. I

831
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: thought fully that he would play. I find it interesting

832
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 2: that he didn't play. I find it interesting. I didn't

833
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: hear the whole interview, but it is interesting that the

834
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 2: head coach let out that he was cleared to play, right,

835
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: And basically he's saying, well, we were planning on him

836
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: playing and he didn't play, and I don't think he was.

837
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: I mean, some people would say, wow, that's what I'm

838
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: under the bus, right, But I'm sure he's trying to

839
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: clarify that a little bit. And he hasn't practiced yet

840
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: this week, so we got to see here. There is

841
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: word that Tom Pellasaro is saying that it's a rotator

842
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 2: cuff contusion. Let me tell you something, There better be

843
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: a lot of cleanup on Aisle seven if he don't

844
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 2: play in six. Right in terms of the comments, all right,

845
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 2: And I'm not pointing fingers at anybody, I'm just saying

846
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: they got some cleanup to do there. I mean, you come,

847
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: you were cleared to play week four, you had a

848
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: bye week week five, and you're not going to practice

849
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: week six and maybe not play If you don't play

850
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: week six, there's gonna be a lot of questions asked

851
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: here and needed to sort out. Now if he does

852
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: have a rotator cuff contusion, that can't explain how it

853
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: takes time, how he finished week three but couldn't play

854
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: week four, and it can linger. But they got a

855
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: lot of cleanup to do on that information. So sometimes

856
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: keeping the veil close. And this is what I found

857
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: that when I have run into athletes and they stand

858
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: what I do, people that I have not met, they've

859
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: actually appreciated my side of it, because sometimes the way

860
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: the team goes it makes it makes them look bad.

861
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 2: Like right now, if Deshaun Watson doesn't play in week six,

862
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: he's gonna look bad without a lot of cleanup as

863
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: to what it is. If he does have a rotator

864
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: cuff contusion, and we're going back to look at all

865
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 2: the film from week three now with the staff, this

866
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: would make sense.

867
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's interesting your caught in that tug

868
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: a war of information. If you're a fan, you hear

869
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: someone's cleared to play, you think they're in perfect health.

870
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: That player does not want to go out there compromise

871
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: to the point where they may put something bad on

872
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: film in terms of how they play. So Deshaun Watson

873
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: been on the struggle bus for a while since he

874
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: got to Cleveland. Game here, game there, looking good, but

875
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: most of them spar I think he's almost at the

876
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: point in his confidence that unless I'm going to be

877
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: great in terms of health, I'm not putting myself out

878
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: there because the chances are it may not go well.

879
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: And I think he's in that place with all that

880
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,479
Speaker 1: money guarantee, why risk it. They can do nothing to him,

881
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: and all he can do is go out there and

882
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: hurt his brand and hurt their belief in him. So

883
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: interesting when you talk about that, let's talk about how

884
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: there were only six players out of the nineteen and

885
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: the concussion protocol that actually returned to play. That's not

886
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: a good high number.

887
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: Doc was going on, Well, you know, there's a lot

888
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: of talk about the concussion protocol has changed this year

889
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: after two It hasn't changed, you know, like a lot

890
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: of times though, where the rules in the NFL may

891
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 2: not change, but they may gather the referees and emphasize

892
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: the rules, right, And I think that's what's happening. And

893
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 2: this last week, in Week five, so it's week four concussions,

894
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: four of the players returned to play, which increased number

895
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: from two out of fifteen to six out of nineteen,

896
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: and six out of nineteen approaches last year's numbers. So

897
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: there's no change in the protocol. There's just early statistical variants.

898
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: And of course everyone's being extra careful. Nobody wants to

899
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: be single out, like the red hat in Miami was

900
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: the guy in Seattle got yelled a temporarily, but he

901
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 2: at least he's getting praised for doing the right thing.

902
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: And look, Jamal Adams did not get fine. And let

903
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: me tell you, in my mind, it's great that he

904
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: made an apology. Okay, that's great. There is no way,

905
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: even absent in apology, that he can get fine. Look, Marcellus,

906
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 2: I've had people cuss me out on the sideline before,

907
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: and I've deserved it before. Sometimes maybe smart alec here

908
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: and there.

909
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I know.

910
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: There's one player that I won't name his name right

911
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 2: now and say you're right, you're right. Coming off the field,

912
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: he's I'm fine, So you sure you're right? Fuck off? Chow,

913
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: Yeah you're all right because you're normally pretty ownery, you know.

914
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: I mean that's happened before. Okay, I mean, and this

915
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: is where you have to know your personnel right and

916
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 2: read into people a little bit. Yeah, it's an emotional game.

917
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: And here's a guy he's never met who, after over

918
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: a year struggle to come out from the quad not

919
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: even ten plays in, says you're out of the game.

920
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: You'd be mad too. He didn't punch him. He exchanged

921
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 2: some words. If he punched him, Okay, that's just unacceptable.

922
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: He spoke his mind. I mean, it's okay, and what

923
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: I love and this is not coach speak, right. I

924
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw this initially. Pete Carroll love

925
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, but he has a special brand. Actually, I

926
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: saw a website indexing coach speak of coaches, and we've

927
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: done that for a while. But I just saw someone

928
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: who's created a Twitter account for coach speaking. Pete Carroll's awesome,

929
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 2: he's Pollyanna. After the Jamal Adams yelling, said yeah, someone

930
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: said something he might have been yelling at someone who

931
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 2: said he was denying that Jamal Adams was yelling at

932
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: the red hat he clearly was video and now saying, Okay,

933
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 2: he yelled at him, but he was concussed and so

934
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: you can't hold him responsible and whatever. Just the spin,

935
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 2: the coach speak, it's just the way of the world.

936
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: That's all it is. And it's fine. And what I

937
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: do is I don't since I have no sources, I'm

938
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 2: not beholden to anybody, kind of like you, you're not

939
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: beholden it. You can look. I can be wrong. I'm

940
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 2: just looking at video. I can be wrong, and there

941
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: can be new information that comes out. Initially, I said,

942
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: Devon a chan is injured there and one angle and

943
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: a pile. I said, you know, it looks like high ankle.

944
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: But it turns out now that we have the ALL

945
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: twenty two, it's an MCL which mcl high ankle. As

946
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 2: you know, when you get rolled up on can be similar.

947
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: So that's the case where initially not exactly right, and

948
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: we can own it, but we just go We don't

949
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 2: go by whispers and sources. We go by primary information

950
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: and try and give you as you say, pull back

951
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: the pull back the curtain a little bit as to

952
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: the process.

953
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: I love it and that's why we're here, and I'm

954
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: really enjoying these segments. And I let you go on

955
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: this one. We need to pull back the veil because

956
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: if you look from the crowd to the stage, it

957
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,959
Speaker 1: looks like Bill Belichick needs to exit stage left. What

958
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: is going on in New England? But I know there

959
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: has to be more to it. Give it to me, Doc.

960
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: Well, look, we all know that mac Jones is not

961
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, right, and you know the Chargers went from

962
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers to Justin Herbert. The Colts went from Peyton

963
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: Manning to Andrew Locke until quote the luck ran out,

964
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: and that's what you need, right. The Packers went from

965
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: far to Rogers right and right now, Matt Jones isn't

966
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 2: getting done on that side of the ball. But here's

967
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: the biggest issue. They've lost arguably a couple of their

968
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: best players defensively, right, Matthew Judah is a beast and

969
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 2: he tore is just the biceps and he is out

970
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 2: with surgery. And then their young rookie corner high draft

971
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: pick dislocated shoulder and he opted for surgery, which is

972
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 2: his right. I haven't seen his m marine. Some players

973
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: have played through with a harness. He's got good film

974
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: on tape. He's a rookie. He's his prerogative. But he

975
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: opted for surgeries out. They got J. C. Jackson back,

976
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: but jac Jackson is not healthy from coming off his

977
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: Battell attendant rupture. So you know, if you don't have

978
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: anything on either side of the ball, I mean, it's

979
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: a tough road there for coach Belichick. Yeah, it's a

980
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: tough road.

981
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's funny because when you look at sports, it

982
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: always is this conversation. I mean, I'm sensitive to the

983
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: athletes and the coaches, but he used to always be

984
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: this jockey versus horse conversation, right, just basically is it

985
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: the coach or is it the players? And being a

986
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 1: coach now and a former player, I swear as the players,

987
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: like you give me enough talent, I almost have to

988
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: mess it up. But if you don't give me much talent,

989
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: I can't coach all that up. Like I get to

990
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: a certain point, you tell me what you think.

991
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:18,479
Speaker 2: Doc Well, I'm not gonna say anything negative about Bill

992
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 2: Belichick as a coach. I mean, did he make Brady

993
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: or Brady make him our guy? Philip Rivers? If he

994
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: was in New England? Is he as or less successful

995
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: as Tom Brady? I don't know, right. The coaching has

996
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: a lot to do with it, right, But you have

997
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: to have some baseline level of talent. But if you

998
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 2: are gonna criticize New England or coach Belichick, now I

999
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: don't think it's fair to criticize his coaching ability because

1000
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: when you had Matthew Judon and Christian Benford, they shut

1001
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: down Tyreek Hill, right, and not a lot of people have. Yeah,

1002
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna criticize, maybe it's GM Bill Belichick

1003
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: because he is the GM that brings in the horses

1004
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 2: and the talent and then coaches them. So if you're

1005
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: going to be critical, I would be hesitant to be

1006
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: critical of him as a coach, but you might be

1007
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: able to be critical of him as a GM, and

1008
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: as you know, it's a hard job. I mean, all

1009
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: gms are watching college film all during the football season

1010
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 2: while you're coaching. It's hard to wear those two hats.

1011
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: And if there is something going on there, maybe it's

1012
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: that because he's the one putting the talent on the

1013
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: field as well as coaching him. And if he doesn't

1014
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: have the talent on the field, in that case, it

1015
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: still you know, points to one man there, and I'm

1016
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: not trying to be critical of anything. I'm defending his coaching.

1017
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: Oh don't qualify it. You nailed it right here. You know,

1018
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: damn well, right now in October, Belichick ain't watching no

1019
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: collegiate game film, so he's not even trying to wear

1020
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: two heads. He just got a hat on the desk

1021
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: and he puts on his coach his hat right here.

1022
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: So I get to you later. Meanwhile, all those other

1023
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: GM's that are exclusively there for that role are getting

1024
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: that head start on Belichick. We see the results, We

1025
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: see how he's losing that race. Appreciate your doctor, child.

1026
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: Every single Tuesday, we're gonna have the pro football doc

1027
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: in here, straight, pure dope intail, always giving us the

1028
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: real Appreciate you brother to talk to you next week. Man.

1029
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: All right, I love my guy right there. He got

1030
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: me right too, y'all got me. I got paid and

1031
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: then I got broke down. He tuned me back up

1032
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: so I could keep balling. Always got a love and

1033
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: affinity for doctor Child. All right, y'all was trying to

1034
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: funk up some comments. Funk up some comments. Yeah, well,

1035
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: all these comments gonna be on the same topic. Stephen A.

1036
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: Plays the race card. You had a big joker, Yes

1037
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: he did. Let's read these comments right here. Stephen A.

1038
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: Smith was deep in his feelings about you calling out

1039
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: his insecurity. You were careful to point out his intelligence

1040
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: and vocabulary, and he ignored all that to slime you.

1041
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: Appreciate you for not responding in kind. Admire you even

1042
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: more with your composure in this segment. By the way,

1043
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure the boss is told them to leave it

1044
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: alone since he's hurting ESPN with all that ish. Yeah,

1045
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean you people hear what they want to hear,

1046
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: select the perception. I don't think Stephen A. Smith is dumb.

1047
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I gave him props on his level

1048
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: of intelligence and his deep vocabulary, which I think is

1049
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: more extensive than even mine. However, what I was just

1050
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: talking about was something completely different from that, highlighting Max's

1051
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: supreme intelligence to not only stephen A, but to me,

1052
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: Max smarter than me. You think that hurt my feelings.

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00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm faster than Max, I'm bigger than Max. I'm cuter

1054
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: than Max, like y'all some soft people when y'all and

1055
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: I was like, man, look, if you think you're the smartest, Max,

1056
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: you stupid. That's how I felt like, we not even

1057
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: gonna do it. Georgia and Columbia, Oh they better than Columbia.

1058
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: What else you gotta do? What else you gotta say today, Potna?

1059
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: So to me, it was that simple, and he took

1060
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: it a whole different direction, which to me showed his insecurity.

1061
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: All Right, facts, I stopped watching these shows once they

1062
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: stop analyzing the game. Ben Mahler, for example, is trash.

1063
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: Who's been maller. Thank you for what you are doing

1064
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: holding sports media accountable. Yeah, I don't care if y'all

1065
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: call it gossip y. I don't care. If y'all don't

1066
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: like it, don't watch it. I got segments. Watch U

1067
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: doctor Child talk about injuries and coaches lying, watch us

1068
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: talk about Rich Paul and shams and wolves. I'm gonna

1069
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: give you the whole buffet. Eat what you want. I

1070
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: like it all, but I'm the chef. Y'all make sure

1071
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: y'all tune into what you want. However, I ain't letting

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00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: these dudes off the hook. I go to school and

1073
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this again. Well, Russell Westbrook, who I love,

1074
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: who I think is just he younger than me, and

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00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: I still like look up to him because of how

1076
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: hard he plays, Like God, dang, I've never seen nobody

1077
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: go on hundred percent of the time. And I respect him,

1078
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: love his family, lover his wife, needed, the little kids

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01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: love They at my daughter's class, and there's there are

1080
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: little kids that have teased the family, teased the little

1081
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: dude before and where they get that AMMO from dudes

1082
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: out there like that. So, man, I'm on their head.

1083
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: Can't be ripping down heroes like that just because you're

1084
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: trying to get your viewers up. No, I have never

1085
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: commented on a YouTube show as I watch on my

1086
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: TV had to come to the computer to tell Marcel's

1087
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: to tell it like it is. I'm a seventy year

1088
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: old man, respect who watches Marcellus every day. Mister Wili

1089
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: is a confident man that I am no chip on

1090
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: his shoulder. No, I don't stephen A is way off

1091
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: on this one. Yes he was. I'm glad you see

1092
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: through this one. Glad somebody in the media is genuinely

1093
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: calling stephen A out. He's been on straight suckers stuff.

1094
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: When it comes to Max, Yeah, like, we ain't noticing.

1095
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 1: That's the thing. We're we're fans of you, Steven ain't,

1096
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: so we actually listen to you, and then we also

1097
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: know when you're happy, when you're sad, when you perturbed,

1098
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: and you just have funk all on you. Every time

1099
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: Max was talking, I was like, damn, do you care?

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01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: Obviously you didn't. He played the clout chaser card and

1101
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: the race card. It was hilarious. Yeah, that caught me

1102
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: off guard because I remember I told y'all about a

1103
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: week or two ago, I said, I I listened to

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01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: a show I still will, which means I ain't gonna

1105
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: hate this dude like that. And I was listening to

1106
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: a show and I was like, Oh, he sneaked this,

1107
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: and I think he sneaked this to me, but he

1108
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: ain't saying my name, so whatever. But I hate when

1109
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: Cats sneaked this, dol say my name and number. Like

1110
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: my coach said, if I ever called somebody out, I

1111
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: am saying their name and number. Now, if you did

1112
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: something wrong and I don't think you should die for

1113
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: it or everybody doesn't know it, I'm never gonna say

1114
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: your name. I protect the guilty. I ain't trying to

1115
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: get you in trouble. But if you doing something we

1116
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: all noticed. Sorry, brother, Gotta do my part. Here's the thing.

1117
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: I met stephen A. Smith for the first time in

1118
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: two thousand and one. I think we're doing the best

1119
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: damn sports show. Remember that show. I love that show,

1120
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: John Sally and all them look, Chris Rolls, all them cats.

1121
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm an active player. I am in San Diego playing

1122
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: for the Chargers. I'm that dude. I'm showing up with

1123
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: throwback jerseys on twenty gold chains, just chilling right. And

1124
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: I meet him in the green room. Hey are you

1125
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: doing Marsels? Oh yeah, nice menius steven A. Smith. Okay,

1126
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: he was like this, we got on air. He went

1127
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: to the moon in his energy and I'm not lying.

1128
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 1: I gave him the biggest props. I was like, dawg,

1129
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: you turned that thing on and I respected that to

1130
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: the fullest and I love that. So the point is

1131
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: I've always had like a respect for him because how

1132
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: you turn that on like that? And he was like, oh,

1133
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: that's what I gotta do. So respect to stephen A

1134
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: for always being that guy. But at the same time,

1135
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: come on, man, clout chasing stephen Ah, what you making

1136
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: right now? I was making back then that was twenty

1137
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: some years ago, Like, don't do that cloud chasing. I

1138
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: don't work every sing of them network. I don't have

1139
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: show at the show. At the show. I'm not the

1140
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: first athlete to have a daily show former athlete. I

1141
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: think that would be Mike Golick. Correct me if I'm wrong,

1142
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: but I'm second or third. I ain't long in that line,

1143
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: like what man, Like come on man, and like he

1144
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: tried to produce me because I'm at the crib chilling,

1145
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: doing it my way independent, and he's like, oh, they

1146
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: doing it for clicks. You doing it for views, And

1147
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't even think that's a negative. And I don't

1148
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: think doing it for clicks is a negative. It's like

1149
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: you want people to watch. But I give him all

1150
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: the choices in the world. But when he tried to

1151
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: go clout on me and clicks on me. You better recognized.

1152
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm Sam Sneve Foo. You better recognized boy over here

1153
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: bragging about how much money you got your shows. You're

1154
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: twenty years late. Br I've been there, done that. Ah.

1155
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: I hate the flex, but when they flex, I got next?

1156
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: All right, what else we got here? The last comment

1157
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: right here? Let's leave on a positive one. Say something

1158
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: good about Stephen Ain' somebody's damnit. Uh. If you have

1159
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: a friend that goes to bat for you like this,

1160
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: call them and thanked them. Solid. People like Marcello's are

1161
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: hard to find in this age. I appreciate y'all. I'm

1162
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: gonna say this again, though I did not do that

1163
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: for Max Kellerman, not exclusively, maybe not even priority. I've

1164
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: not talked to Max since I did this. I'm not

1165
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: doing this for like Max. You like it, you like

1166
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: it was that cool. I'm doing it because this industry

1167
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: funked up, and they over here killing cats for no reason.

1168
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: And since one dude got the loudest megaphone, it doesn't

1169
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: give him license and right to shoot at KD, to

1170
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: shoot at LeVar Ball, Wanzo Ball, Kwame Bryant, whatever. It

1171
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: don't give nobody, no license to have that many damn

1172
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: bodies just because you don't like them. Cash need to

1173
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: talk like they talk for real in the locker room.

1174
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't give damn who you are, so what fool

1175
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: like if somebody challenges me in the locker room, I

1176
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: don't care how many pro bols. I don't care what

1177
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: hall of fame you in. Ain't about to go to

1178
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: what what? What? I need athletes to start saying what.

1179
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm letting these dudes just say anything about y'all and

1180
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: everything you they're gonna just keeping man, look back back

1181
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: at all of them, snacks back, all right, that's all right, child.

1182
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: You know how we finish every show, were finishing with

1183
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: a wilyism. Yeah, don't be pushed by your problems, be

1184
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: led by your dreams. Oh yeah, that's beautiful because I

1185
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: get caught slipping sometimes like I got this going on,

1186
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: got this going on? Oh it's time to kicking overdrive.

1187
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: When it's like when nothing's going on or I can't

1188
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: think of my issues, I need to be an overdrive,

1189
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: Like what am I doing? I got goals out here,

1190
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: got goals. I got goals, y'all know. And one of

1191
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: my goals is to have the biggest foundation in the

1192
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: world because I can have the greatest impact now on

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01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: the quest for that. It ain't my problems that's pushing me,

1194
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: cause frankly, I don't have as many problems as I've

1195
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: had in the past. Things could pop up tomorrow, things

1196
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: can pop up today. But my problems are not pushing me.

1197
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: My dream of having the biggest foundation is pushing me now.

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01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: And I'm thankful because my problems pushed me to go

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01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: to the NFL. My problems pushed me to go to Columbia.

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01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to y'all. So I was like, dog,

1201
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm broke, we broke. What hurt me more than I

1202
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: was broke, is we broke. And I don't see a

1203
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: monetiable gift in our family but my football skills, and

1204
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: that's it. Like I looked around my whole family and

1205
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: I was just like, like, we got a lot of jobs,

1206
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people working, a lot of people trying,

1207
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people trying to get it, and all

1208
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: that's gonna add up to us staying right here, you know, treadmill,

1209
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: tread and water. And I was like, I got something special,

1210
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: and I ain't say I was special, I said, I

1211
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: possessed something special, got to show the world. So that,

1212
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: But that was my problems pushing me. Now I'm led

1213
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: by my dreams partly while I'm here right, I could

1214
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: be still at them jobs. I could still be doing that.

1215
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: I got the emails, I got the convos, I got

1216
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: the text, I still got the relationships. Nah Son, you

1217
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: think I could be up there with Icho talking about

1218
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: go to project transition dot. I be like, man, Yo,

1219
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: sit you ahead here here here writeing check right there?

1220
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: Relations shut up? Can we do this? Talk about the Jets,

1221
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: jests and patriots? Who you got Wyley? I'm like, man,

1222
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: look see what I'm saying. So, don't be pushed by

1223
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: your problems, be led by your dreams. All you guys

1224
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: out there who are in a good place, what's in

1225
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: front of you that you really want? And all you

1226
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: guys out there that got stuff going on, Yeah, get

1227
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: away from that, but also know what's in front of you.

1228
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: We all need to be in this same mindset. Don't

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01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,799
Speaker 1: be pushed by your problems, be led by your dreams.

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01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, got'll do it. For more to it,

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01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: check the show notes for all the information on our

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01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: topics today today. Want to keep the conversation going. Let's talk.

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Speaker 1: Find me on all socials at Marcel's. Wiley More Too

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01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,799
Speaker 1: is a production of Damn Patrick Production that Dude Entertainment

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Speaker 1: and workhouse Media. Show is executive produced by Dan Patrick,

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: Marcello's Wally, Paul Anderson, and Nick Panella. Thanks for all

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01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 1: the love, rates and subscriptions and reviews, membership to Wiley's

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Speaker 1: World on YouTube. Keep it coming because there's more coming

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Speaker 1: from more to It. Talk to y'all. Hellison