Speaker 1: On November twenty first, nineteen ninety seven, a Suffolk County,
Speaker 1: Virginia man known for drug dealing in gambling named Gene
Speaker 1: Artists and his sister, Yvonne Giles, were both fatally shot
Speaker 1: in front of Yvonne's six year old son, Trayvon. The
Speaker 1: boy was discovered in his blood soaked T shirt and
Speaker 1: underwear outside of the house shortly after the shooting around
Speaker 1: ten pm. Trayvon gave a very descriptive police report, but
Speaker 1: later became unable to remember the details of the tragic event.
Speaker 1: In a court of law. However, Gene Artist's girlfriend and
Speaker 1: several other associates began making police statements that named another
Speaker 1: man involved in the drug trade, Larico Kearney, collectively saying
Speaker 1: that he shot Jeanne to recover a large gambling loss.
Speaker 1: Shortly before his trial, another drug dealer claimed that l
Speaker 1: Rico had plotted to rob Gene Artists of the gambling
Speaker 1: score in order to.
Speaker 2: Repay him for a drug debt.
Speaker 1: Laurco was convicted, but a constitutional violation triggered a new
Speaker 1: trial in which three new witnesses joined the Commonwealth case.
Speaker 1: With this many people willing to testify, revealing the statements
Speaker 1: of the only person who actually saw the murders wouldn't
Speaker 1: even have seemed like it was necessary. But this is
Speaker 1: wrongful conviction. Welcome back to wrongful conviction. Today we have
Speaker 1: another case out of Virginia, which, again the entire substance
Speaker 1: of the States case was built upon the words of
Speaker 1: incentivized witnesses receiving leniency on their own charges, by the way,
Speaker 1: all while ignoring the only actual credible witness and the
Speaker 1: most likely suspect. Meanwhile, the man who they focused on
Speaker 1: instead is calling in today, over twenty five long years
Speaker 1: later from Greensville Correctional Facility of Virginia. Larico Kearney, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry you're with us today under the circumstances, but all
Speaker 1: of us here at wrongful Conviction are happy and honor
Speaker 1: that you're joining us today.
Speaker 3: Thank y'all just for giving me this opportunity, you know,
Speaker 3: to share my story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're most welcome and also joining us. And you'll
Speaker 1: remember him from our comforage of Terrence Hobbs is Lenny Singleton,
Speaker 1: who did his own stint a legal conviction but a
Speaker 1: crazy sentence of the thousand, three hundred and ten years
Speaker 1: for having stolen a little over five hundred dollars. No
Speaker 1: one was hurt, and no weapon was used. Lenny was
Speaker 1: a jailhouse lawyer and then benefited from a conditional pardon
Speaker 1: and soon joined the Cagashaw Law firm, from which he
Speaker 1: and his wife, Vandy crusade for the wrongfully convicted. So, Lenny,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you, great to be here.
Speaker 1: I think our audience will agree that this is very
Speaker 1: similar to Terrence Hobbs's case, not the story itself, but
Speaker 1: the patterns of the investigation and the misconduct and the prosecution.
Speaker 1: The towns in which they occurred were less than twenty
Speaker 1: miles apart, by the way, where As I alluded to
Speaker 1: in the opening, you have a crime that occurred in
Speaker 1: the drug culture of the nineties and an investigation that
Speaker 1: bent over backwards to ignore the most likely suspect, turning
Speaker 1: instead to incentivize and or coerced witness testimony in exchange
Speaker 1: for sentence reductions and things like that. The similarities of
Speaker 1: the cases are striking, from which it's easy to see
Speaker 1: that there's patterns here.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: We see these all over the country, but it seems
Speaker 1: like there's a cluster of them in Virginia.
Speaker 2: I don't know that we could just focus on Virginia.
Speaker 2: I think this is a widespread issue where snitches, and
Speaker 2: most of them do this for a living. They're always
Speaker 2: in trouble and they know how to work the system.
Speaker 2: They know who to call, they know who to get
Speaker 2: in contact with. I've seen several cases in Virginia where
Speaker 2: guys will see someone on TV on the news, call
Speaker 2: someone and say, look, I'm in the pub with this
Speaker 2: guy and I overheard him saying this, that and the other,
Speaker 2: when in fact those things have never happened. But it
Speaker 2: is a culture in Virginia that needs to be stopped
Speaker 2: for sure, because I've never seen one that actually was true.
Speaker 2: They're always working to get a deal, get a time cut,
Speaker 2: as you could clearly see in the letters that Lorico's
Speaker 2: attorney was able to obtain these inmates, writing folk telling
Speaker 2: them I'll say whatever you need me to say, just
Speaker 2: let me get this certain deal.
Speaker 1: And we'll quote from those letters later. It's really egregious.
Speaker 1: And of course, again this doesn't only happen in Virginia.
Speaker 1: It happens in all fifty states, but some states have
Speaker 1: even enacted laws in order to only allow this kind
Speaker 1: of testimony if it's corroborated by some physical evidence, of
Speaker 1: which there usually is none, and this case is no exception.
Speaker 1: But before we get into all of that, Lorico, you
Speaker 1: grew up in kind of like in two different places,
Speaker 1: mostly with your mom in Surrey, Virginia and then part
Speaker 1: of the time with your father and your grandparents in Suffolk, Virginia.
Speaker 1: Is that right.
Speaker 3: I'm a regally from Suffolk, Virginia. My mom was a
Speaker 3: single parent. You know. My dad, you know, he was
Speaker 3: you know, in and out of the streets. You know,
Speaker 3: he was in and out of jail. My mother's job
Speaker 3: carried her for different places. So I moved from Suffolk
Speaker 3: to Windsor, and eventually I moved to Surrey County, but
Speaker 3: I was still, you know, visiting my grandmother and my
Speaker 3: father on the weekends. And like I said, you know,
Speaker 3: my father, you know he told drugs, and me watching
Speaker 3: my father, you know, you see the so called drug
Speaker 3: that they're wearing nice clothes, driving nice cars, and you know,
Speaker 3: I thought that was cool.
Speaker 1: And this is something I've heard before when a young
Speaker 1: person growing up around that scene quickly notices that everyone
Speaker 1: who's not selling drugs is struggling to get by while
Speaker 1: the ones who are involved in the trade have seemingly
Speaker 1: comfortable lives.
Speaker 2: And money in your pocket. Yeah, back in those days, seriously, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know when crack cocaine hit. Yeah, they were the
Speaker 2: heroes in the neighborhood actually, sadly.
Speaker 1: And the only ones with any real economic power, until,
Speaker 1: of course they got caught and sent away from some
Speaker 1: ungodly sentence, like la Rico's father.
Speaker 3: But my father went to prison in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 3: He had fifty four years under the old with parole.
Speaker 3: He was denied a couple of times. He ended up
Speaker 3: doing sixteen years and four months.
Speaker 1: And what did life look like for you after he
Speaker 1: went away? I understand you had moved out of your
Speaker 1: mom's in with your father and your grandparents.
Speaker 3: It's just me, my grandmother or my grandfather. I'man thoseing
Speaker 3: in the streets. There's nothing you know to glorify, you know,
Speaker 3: be proud of. But I was in no baying and
Speaker 3: selling drugs, right, So you.
Speaker 1: Were probably already on the radar of local law enforcement.
Speaker 1: But had you ever been arrested before I was.
Speaker 3: Arrested in October of ninety seven. I had a possession
Speaker 3: of cocaine, assault on the ULSA, and other traffic violations
Speaker 3: that came with that same incident one month before this happened.
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, Back up a second. There the assault of
Speaker 1: a police officer. What happened in that case?
Speaker 3: I think in the process of them restraining me, I
Speaker 3: think he may have hurt his finger.
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ, I mean so since the arrest was
Speaker 1: the impetus for the officer's injury, they, of course, you know,
Speaker 1: some sort of centers are gaslighting move. They got to
Speaker 1: charge you with assault of an officer, which makes you
Speaker 1: sound like a super violent person when in actuality he
Speaker 1: had injured himself.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
Speaker 1: And so now with this arrest and the alleged assault,
Speaker 1: and I'm putting that in quotation marks of a police
Speaker 1: officer just a month before the murders. From what I understand,
Speaker 1: this put you on house arrests with an ankle monitor
Speaker 1: with only supervised outings. So, needless to say, you're a
Speaker 1: well known entity of the local police. You were right
Speaker 1: for the picking, so to speak. Right, you were easy
Speaker 1: fall guy for them. And one of the deceased in
Speaker 1: this case was also known to both you and the police,
Speaker 1: which is a guy named David Eugene artists who went
Speaker 1: by a GENA. What was your relationship to Jean.
Speaker 3: We would run at each other on a regular basis,
Speaker 3: you know, Like I said, he was a drug dealer
Speaker 3: in the area. And Jean would you know, always, you know,
Speaker 3: look to entice people to gamble, to shoot dice because
Speaker 3: he was he was good at it. I guess that's
Speaker 3: how he supported itself, no gambling and selling drugs.
Speaker 1: And it was part of the States theory that he
Speaker 1: had enticed you into a few games in which you
Speaker 1: had lost big money. Did you used to gamble with Gene?
Speaker 3: I never personally gambled with Gene because I knew how
Speaker 3: I knew how good Gene was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of those guys, man, they come up with
Speaker 2: these techniques. There's a way you can actually set the
Speaker 2: dice and increase the probability of a certain number. Gene
Speaker 2: probably was good with dice. He knew how to set him,
Speaker 2: he knew how to increase his chances at winning.
Speaker 1: So you knew better than to play with Gene. Your
Speaker 1: father been the one who gave you that advice.
Speaker 3: He actually did on more than one occasion. He actually did.
Speaker 1: You had even turned him down in front of two
Speaker 1: individuals who eventually were coerced into testifying against you. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Casey Davis and Travis Chalk.
Speaker 3: The morning that Gene Artist was killed, he came to
Speaker 3: the house of trying to entice us to gamble. Of
Speaker 3: course all of us said no.
Speaker 1: Right, but the authorities eventually coerced those two men into
Speaker 1: making false statements about you, saying that you were in
Speaker 1: possession of a black forty five caliber from the day before,
Speaker 1: and men in the morning of the twenty first, that
Speaker 1: you had said, quote, if he don't have it g
Speaker 1: or better, I'm gonna kill him because I'm tired of
Speaker 1: him winning my money and coming with no money end quote.
Speaker 1: Chalk went on to say that you and Jean shot
Speaker 1: dice for about an hour and then agreed to pause
Speaker 1: the game and pick it up later. The authorities were
Speaker 1: also successful in getting Jean's girlfriend at the time to
Speaker 1: say that you had once lost something like five thousand
Speaker 1: dollars to Jeane and the dice game, but that also
Speaker 1: had never happened.
Speaker 3: His girlfriend at the time, her name was Sabrina Northfleet.
Speaker 3: I think that she had some child depended or she
Speaker 3: had a situation going on, you know, that's why she
Speaker 3: fabricated the story which never happened, seeing me gamble with
Speaker 3: Jean in the place that, as God's my witness, I
Speaker 3: had never my life been to.
Speaker 1: But there was something that she testified to that was true,
Speaker 1: which was seeing you and Jane together earlier on in
Speaker 1: the night that he was murdered, when she pulled up
Speaker 1: to Jean and a gas station and you had asked
Speaker 1: him for a ride home.
Speaker 3: I was at the sub shot that was across the
Speaker 3: street from the gas station that Geene Artists was at,
Speaker 3: asked her for a rat and she had pulled up
Speaker 3: in that station two. I guess her.
Speaker 1: Gene.
Speaker 3: They had an argument, but she did see me sitting
Speaker 3: in the car with Jene. He was just giving me
Speaker 3: a ride home.
Speaker 1: So he dropped you off with your grandparents. You later
Speaker 1: walked down the street to be with one of your
Speaker 1: kids at the child's mother's house. Both the child's mother
Speaker 1: and grandmother later testified to your whereabouts during the murders
Speaker 1: of Gene Artists had his sister, Evon Giles, which was
Speaker 1: November twenty first, nineteen ninety seven. They were both shot
Speaker 1: while at home sometime between nine and ten pm, and
Speaker 1: apparently there was a pizza delivery before the murders. The
Speaker 1: pizza delivery person, Teresa Rix, saw two men arguing on
Speaker 1: their way into the residence at one sixteen Franklin Street,
Speaker 1: neither of which she recognized as you we go. So
Speaker 1: there was another witness to this entire harrowing scene, this
Speaker 1: whole ordeal.
Speaker 2: There was one person who was there and who actually
Speaker 2: saw the killer, six year old Trayvon Artists, who lived
Speaker 2: in the apartment with his mother and his uncle. At
Speaker 2: about ten pm the night of November twenty first, ninety seven,
Speaker 2: Treyvon was found standing outside of that one sixteen Franklin
Speaker 2: Street address, wearing nothing but a shirt and his underwear,
Speaker 2: with his mother's blood on his clothes, and he led
Speaker 2: a neighbor to the bodies in the apartment.
Speaker 1: Okay, first, let's take a second to recognize that this
Speaker 1: is a frightened little boy in a terrifying situation. Now,
Speaker 1: the neighbor that took him back inside was his mother's boyfriend,
Speaker 1: Jody Cross, and by now the police had been called.
Speaker 2: Trayvon gave a statement to the police at eleven pm.
Speaker 2: So this wasn't long after, in which he stated clearly
Speaker 2: and unequivocally that a relative of his name, Gregory Artist,
Speaker 2: not Lorico, had been in the apartment and had shot
Speaker 2: and killed his mother, Yvonne Giles, right in front of him.
Speaker 2: He repeated these statements to the police twice more the next.
Speaker 1: Day, and he's crystal clear with the police about what happened.
Speaker 1: Can you read some of the report for us?
Speaker 2: They questioned, did you see the man that shot your mom?
Speaker 2: He said yes, and they asked him, is his name
Speaker 2: Jody Cross? He says, no, that's my mom's boyfriend. Did
Speaker 2: Gregory Artists shoot your mom? Yes? Did you see Gregory
Speaker 2: Artist shoot your mom?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: How do you know Gregory Artists? He has been to
Speaker 2: my house before and played cards with my uncle. Cravon
Speaker 2: gives the police details. He says, I've spent time at
Speaker 2: his house, his kids and I play together. He knows
Speaker 2: this guy. So they ask him, tell me, in your
Speaker 2: own words, what you know about this offense? And I
Speaker 2: guess this is the next day, he says, Trayvon Artists
Speaker 2: advised he was in his mom's bedroom with her watching
Speaker 2: TV when he heard David and Gregory Artists arguing. They
Speaker 2: were arguing over a card game. Gregory said that David
Speaker 2: was cheating again.
Speaker 1: Jean's full name is David Eugene Artists, so the name
Speaker 1: David and Jeane refer to the same man.
Speaker 2: He says that Jane had a small silver gun and
Speaker 2: that Gregory had a big black gun. That Jean shot Gregory,
Speaker 2: and Gregory shot at Jean. Him and his mom went
Speaker 2: into Trayvon's clause at the hide. When no more shots
Speaker 2: were fired, him and his mom got out of the
Speaker 2: closet and went down the hall. He followed his mom.
Speaker 2: Once they were in the front foyer, Gregory and David
Speaker 2: were standing there and two more shots were fired and
Speaker 2: he fell dead on the floor. Gregory then walked up
Speaker 2: to me and my mom and he was told by Gregory,
Speaker 2: I'm going to shoot and kill your mom now. And
Speaker 2: remember Gregory Artists killed your mom and that's when he
Speaker 2: shot her, this says in the neck area, and she
Speaker 2: fell on the floor by the window and he shot
Speaker 2: her again. Gregory then left out the house and then
Speaker 2: they asked him to describe Gregory Artists, and he describes
Speaker 2: him to the t. He says that Gregory Artist was
Speaker 2: a black male, darker skin with two birthmarks and moles
Speaker 2: on each side of his forehead, and white freckles. He's
Speaker 2: about fifty years old. Gregory lives in North Carolina, the
Speaker 2: two story house and lives with his mom.
Speaker 1: It's just awful for this little kid. And then the
Speaker 1: authorities appear to have completely ignored him except for the
Speaker 1: description of the murder weapon, a big black gun which
Speaker 1: they knew to be a forty five from the fragments
Speaker 1: they pulled from his mother's skull. Now seven hundred dollars
Speaker 1: in cast was also found at the scene, I believe
Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty of which was in Gene Artist's pocket,
Speaker 1: in addition to some drugs. So the idea that this
Speaker 1: was a robbery sprung on by dice game losses to
Speaker 1: a fellow drug dealer is absurd. But instead of just
Speaker 1: going to North Carolina and arresting Gregory Artist, Detective E. C.
Speaker 1: Harris appears to use jeens involvement and drugs as an
Speaker 1: opportunity to target other guys in that business, including yourself,
Speaker 1: for either a wrongful conviction or a false statement to
Speaker 1: use in a wrongful conviction. And as we mentioned, you
Speaker 1: were on house arrest at the time for that cocaine
Speaker 1: possession and the bogus assault charge when they came to
Speaker 1: see you, and you had been seeing with Jean at
Speaker 1: the gas station that night, so your name was floating
Speaker 1: around in the rumor mil so to speak.
Speaker 3: So I guess, you know, my name was in his
Speaker 3: roomor mill, and they realized that I was on house arrest.
Speaker 3: They gave me a violation because I was actually out
Speaker 3: of my house, you know, that weekend that this crame happened.
Speaker 3: So I was taking to jail, and I guess the
Speaker 3: prosecutor or whoever had planned me to sell with an informant.
Speaker 3: His name was Brad Parker, and he tried to question
Speaker 3: me about these homicides, and I explained to the gentleman like, no,
Speaker 3: that's not what I'm locked up for. The following week,
Speaker 3: I was giving a bond, so I was out again.
Speaker 3: Later on he ended up writing to the prosecutors or
Speaker 3: whatever and telling them that I admitted to him while
Speaker 3: I was in that sale about committing these crimes. So
Speaker 3: I think all investigations everything stemmed from that.
Speaker 1: And he wasn't the only one willing to offer false
Speaker 1: statements against you and your co defending Quinton Parish AKAQP.
Speaker 1: Eventually a laundry list of people was compiled, including Casey Davis,
Speaker 1: Travis Chalk, Sabrina Northfleet, as well as two other guys,
Speaker 1: Tony Booth and Willie Hardy. But was this statement from
Speaker 1: Brad Parker how they originally obtained your arrest warrant?
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't Brad Parker. They had got a statement
Speaker 3: from a Willie Hardy statement that I made a layer's
Speaker 3: profession to him about committing these murders. He was a
Speaker 3: suspect in his crime. Him and my co defendant, Quintin persh.
Speaker 1: So it turned out that he and Quinton Parish were
Speaker 1: childhood buddies who grew up on the same block. But
Speaker 1: Quinton refused to give false statements, unlike Willie Hardy. So
Speaker 1: you were arrested on December twenty eighth, nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 1: and your family hired an attorney named Ken Melvin, who
Speaker 1: was very effective.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Hardy testified to this false statement at a preliminary hearing
Speaker 1: in June of ninety eight, but ended up catching his
Speaker 1: own charges and hired William P. Robinson, the same attorney
Speaker 1: as his buddy Quinton Parish, you're a co defendant. Hardy
Speaker 1: admitted to his attorney Robinson that he had given false
Speaker 1: testimony against you, and your attorney Ken Melvin was present.
Speaker 2: They recorded this conversation where he admitted to lying about Larco' Kearney. Willie.
Speaker 2: Hardy said he had been threatened and harassed by detectives
Speaker 2: every day, threatening the charging with the crimes for which
Speaker 2: Kearney is incarcerating.
Speaker 1: So now with this recording, your attorney filed emotion for
Speaker 1: dismissal of all charges against you, and eventually there was
Speaker 1: a hearing. Meanwhile, the prosecution was scrambling to find a
Speaker 1: new star witness and they found another guy from the
Speaker 1: Suffolk drug game, Tony Booth.
Speaker 3: I ran into him one time in the Western Time
Speaker 3: What the reason the jail? Well, we was on the
Speaker 3: basketball court in the jail. He had hired Kenny mil
Speaker 3: and he asked me about how Kenne Mill was doing
Speaker 3: on my case, and I was like, yeah, he's doing
Speaker 3: a good job. Maybe a couple of days later he
Speaker 3: was transferred from the Western Time for the Reason the
Speaker 3: Jail to Chesapeake. That's when I later learned you know
Speaker 3: that you know, he had hopped on my case.
Speaker 1: Right, so he hired Ken Melvin for his own charges,
Speaker 1: and then, using this conversation on the yard as a
Speaker 1: pretext for an allegend confession, began working with the state
Speaker 1: as a witnessing your case, presenting Ken Melvin with a
Speaker 1: conflict of interest. And now this attorney, who had been
Speaker 1: super effective thus far, was likely to be forced to
Speaker 1: drop you as a client. All this may or may
Speaker 1: not have been engineered by the prosecution. Smells like an onion.
Speaker 1: Might be an onion. But for now, let's get back
Speaker 1: to the hearing to dismiss your charges. Based on the
Speaker 1: recording which Willie Hardy admitted to perjuring himself at your
Speaker 1: preliminary hearing. What happened when they got him understand.
Speaker 2: Fearing he would be charged with perjury, he said he'd
Speaker 2: been through a lot and he'd been shot, so he
Speaker 2: couldn't remember anything.
Speaker 3: Now, Judge westbro Poccer said, it's a possibility that before
Speaker 3: mister Kearney trial comes up, he may regain his memory back.
Speaker 2: And so this Judge Westbrook Parker ruled at Kearney's indictment
Speaker 2: would not be dismissed because the witness did not recap
Speaker 2: even though they had a recording that he said he
Speaker 2: was lying about it.
Speaker 3: So now on this date the prosecutor putting in a
Speaker 3: motion to have mister Melvine disqualified for my case. Could
Speaker 3: they now have another witness, which was Tony Booth. Mister
Speaker 3: Melvin was disqualified off my case. It was strategic, you know.
Speaker 3: I guess they felt as though with the case that
Speaker 3: they had, it would have been hard for them to
Speaker 3: get a conviction on me. I had kenned Melvin, that's
Speaker 3: my attorney.
Speaker 1: So that was September of ninety nine, and as your
Speaker 1: first trial was fast approaching, your co defending Quinton Parish,
Speaker 1: probably seeing what you both were up against, decided to
Speaker 1: take an alphab play to avoid a potential life sentence.
Speaker 2: And that's how they get a lot of guys too.
Speaker 2: This garrel with that, I could see him very easily
Speaker 2: pleading out even though he had nothing to do with it,
Speaker 2: just because he was afraid he would never get out.
Speaker 1: But Lrico, you weren't backing down even though you were
Speaker 1: facing a similar faith.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had two counts of capital murder at two
Speaker 3: counts of use of a foul Yate's.
Speaker 2: Theory of his crime was circumstantial evidence of Rico's alleged
Speaker 2: rift with Gene Artists over some gambling.
Speaker 1: Dead now La Rico tells us that this whole disagreement
Speaker 1: over gambling between he and Jean was impossible because he
Speaker 1: knew better that the play dice with a guy that
Speaker 1: was a real hustler. Right Jean was was that guy
Speaker 1: didn't want to lose his money. But the state fabricated
Speaker 1: statements to the contrary from Sabrina Northfleet, Travis Chalk, and
Speaker 1: Casey Davis.
Speaker 3: Sabrino Northfleet gave a false testimony witnessing Jean to win
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars from me around September of that year,
Speaker 3: so that you know, provided a false motor for them.
Speaker 3: Travis Chalk gave a testimony that he was at my
Speaker 3: house before these murders happened. He said, when Jean pulled up,
Speaker 3: I made a statement to him. If Jeane didn't have
Speaker 3: one thousand dollars a better, I would kill him because
Speaker 3: I'm tired of Jean wanted my money and coming with
Speaker 3: no money. And we went in the house to gamble.
Speaker 3: And the gentleman that was in the driveway with him
Speaker 3: at the time, whose name Miss Casey Davis. He testified
Speaker 3: to seeing me with the forty five caliber file arm.
Speaker 4: On November twentieth, a firearms identification expert testified that the
Speaker 4: forty five caliber bullet killed Miss Giles is saying that
Speaker 4: they were fired from the same weapon, and some cartridge
Speaker 4: casings were found, both of a forty five and a
Speaker 4: three eighty caliber.
Speaker 1: Right, No bullets or fragments were found in Gene, but
Speaker 1: two different casings likely came from the exchange between Gene
Speaker 1: and Gregory Artists. So they've fabricated the motive and the
Speaker 1: means and now they place you with Gene, which is
Speaker 1: actually something that was true. Sabrina north Leet saw you
Speaker 1: two guys together at the gas station that night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she seen us together at the East Coast gas station.
Speaker 3: She just played to him about the argument, and you know,
Speaker 3: she told them that I was the last person you know,
Speaker 3: seeing with Gene Artists. And my thing is this, you know,
Speaker 3: y'all charged me with another individual. So we'll come in
Speaker 3: at did y'all link me? Mister her She's telling y'all
Speaker 3: it was just me and Jean together, right.
Speaker 2: Part of the state's evidence was this, mister Travis Chalk
Speaker 2: who said that he had seen Jean driving alone in
Speaker 2: a white Chevy and that Lo Rico in Quinton Parish
Speaker 2: known as QP, they were in a white Mitsubishi Gallant
Speaker 2: heading towards Franklin Street following him.
Speaker 1: So he was supposed to be in Jean's car, but
Speaker 1: now he's in a different car with another guy following Jean.
Speaker 1: Which way is it? Guys? I mean, you can't have
Speaker 1: it both ways.
Speaker 2: Travis Chalk several years later, gave an affidavit that all
Speaker 2: of it was alive. In fact, I do have that
Speaker 2: Affidavid Travis Chalk said, I never saw l Rico Kearney
Speaker 2: with a gun, nor did he say anything about killing
Speaker 2: anyone over some gambling debts, as stated to me by
Speaker 2: Detective E. C. Harris. He says that that detective led
Speaker 2: me to say I saw Larico Kearney with the type
Speaker 2: of gun that was used in the murders, and that
Speaker 2: he harassed me almost daily, and that he came with
Speaker 2: papers to encourage me to sign, threatening me with incarceration
Speaker 2: if I did not cooperate. Travis Chalk said, I was
Speaker 2: young and afraid, and I was given paperwork as to
Speaker 2: what to say in court. By Detective E. C. Harris.
Speaker 1: Obviously, the Jerry didn't benefit from this knowledge, just as
Speaker 1: they had not benefited from Willie Hardy's admissions from the
Speaker 1: preliminary hearing. And then the Commonwealth brought in another steaming
Speaker 1: pile of conflicting testimony from Tony Booth. Now the motive
Speaker 1: isn't just about being mad about losing five grand to Gene.
Speaker 1: Now it was five grand that he needed to pay
Speaker 1: mister Booth for drugs.
Speaker 3: Tony Booth said that I sold drugs for him. I
Speaker 3: owed him money and I told him that, you know,
Speaker 3: I had to kill some people to get the money back.
Speaker 3: I lost the money gambling. And the testimony that he
Speaker 3: gave it didn't match the evidence. He just said, I
Speaker 3: said I held the guns to the people head while
Speaker 3: PC he said PC in my code offend his name
Speaker 3: was two T. He was saying PC and PC first
Speaker 3: their pockets of money and drugs, you know, while he
Speaker 3: held the guns to him and killed him. After that,
Speaker 3: you know, Jene Nist he had cracked cocaine and file
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty dollars a cash in his pocket
Speaker 3: at the time of his death. So the testimony there
Speaker 3: Tony Booth gave it. It didn't even match the evidence, right.
Speaker 1: If you had robbed Jane to pay Tony as he alleged,
Speaker 1: then Jean's pockets would not have been full of money
Speaker 1: and drugs. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to
Speaker 1: figure this out.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Booth was awaiting sentencing for his own charges, which was
Speaker 1: a projected two hundred and eighty months over twenty three years,
Speaker 1: and that sentencing was suspended until he fulfilled his obligation
Speaker 1: at your first and second trials, Tony Booth, you guessed
Speaker 1: it ended up serving only five years now le Rico's
Speaker 1: public defender courtesy of Tony Booth. Mind you, Michael Rosenberg
Speaker 1: poked holes in Booth's story incredibility on cross examination. That's good,
Speaker 1: but what else was presented in your favor?
Speaker 3: The defense called an attorney, you know, to get on
Speaker 3: the stand to explain to the jury about the plea
Speaker 3: Boggain that Torn and Booth had entered into you know
Speaker 3: about him, you know, looking for a sentence production.
Speaker 2: Also, a witness, Teresa Ris, testified she was a pizza
Speaker 2: delivery person who had delivered a pizza to one sixteen
Speaker 2: Franklin Street in the hours before the murders, and she
Speaker 2: did see two black men, one heavy set, one medium
Speaker 2: bill enter the house after arguing with each other getting
Speaker 2: out of their car. And this Miss Ricks testified that
Speaker 2: neither of these men were larco' kearney, who she knew
Speaker 2: from school. They went to school together.
Speaker 3: My son's mother and her mother. They actually testified on
Speaker 3: my behalf to saying that you know, I was there
Speaker 3: in my baby mother's house. You know, at the time
Speaker 3: that this allarged defense had happened. She actually testified on
Speaker 3: my behalf too. You know, she told the jury that
Speaker 3: you know, she was in the driveway when I came
Speaker 3: from my baby mother's house.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, the only loved ones don't make convincing alibi witnesses,
Speaker 1: as they're easily explained away as someone who might be
Speaker 1: willing to lie. But his attorney was in possession of
Speaker 1: the statement from the only witness who should have mattered,
Speaker 1: which was Trayvon, and Trayvon was who pointed the finger
Speaker 1: directly at Gregory Artists. Yet this alternate and much more
Speaker 1: likely suspect was never presented to the jury. Among so
Speaker 1: much more.
Speaker 2: The fact that is Lloyd didn't bring up any physical evidence,
Speaker 2: and none of it pointed to Lrico. Was just astounding
Speaker 2: to me. They took fingerprints from the crime scene, and
Speaker 2: to this day they haven't tried to match those fingerprints
Speaker 2: to anyone except Lrico, Gurney.
Speaker 1: I mean, what about Gregory Artists. Apparently no one was
Speaker 1: interested enough, so the jury came to a predictable conclusion.
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't have any idea that I could
Speaker 3: be actually convicted of that crime. You know, I had
Speaker 3: high hopes, and like I said, I was going home
Speaker 3: my family in the courtroom, I didn't think of any
Speaker 3: way they could find me guilty. I mean, I couldn't
Speaker 3: believe it. I was in shocked, like I was known.
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like, you know, I let everybody down,
Speaker 3: even though it was beyond my control.
Speaker 1: And your verdict at the first trial was really odd.
Speaker 1: You were found guilty of first degree murder, but only
Speaker 1: of Yvonne Giles along with the related firearm charge, you.
Speaker 3: Know, because you had Casey Davis testified he's seen me
Speaker 3: with the forty five caliber weapon. I guess they said that.
Speaker 3: You know, the forty five caliber fragment of a bullet
Speaker 3: was found in the skull. It was a compromise.
Speaker 1: Thirty right forty five caliber bullet fragments were only pulled
Speaker 1: from Yvonne Giles's skull, and maybe they weren't totally convinced
Speaker 1: of your guilt, so they acquitted you for the murder
Speaker 1: of Gene Artists cold comfort there, but you were still
Speaker 1: sentenced to life for the Yvonne Giles homicide plus three
Speaker 1: years for the gun charge. But your public defender, a
Speaker 1: new one who you had been assigned, Joseph Winston, was
Speaker 1: actually able to appeal this verdict and win since the
Speaker 1: only person who could contradict Tony Booth was you, and
Speaker 1: the Commonwealth's attorney unconstitutionally argued to the jury that you
Speaker 1: should have testified. This constituted a clear violation of your
Speaker 1: Fifth Amendment rights, so they properly declared it a mistrial.
Speaker 3: I was convicted in February of two thousand. My case
Speaker 3: was overturned Junior Ary twenty nine, two thousand and two.
Speaker 3: That hadn't been in prison at that time but fifteen months,
Speaker 3: but I had been around guys that had actually been
Speaker 3: down with twenty twenty five years. I finally get that
Speaker 3: Paperbrook saying that my case was overturned, and I shared
Speaker 3: that with a few individuals, and you know, like some
Speaker 3: people were happy for me, like, you know, we've been
Speaker 3: way like to get Traderbrook like this for twenty plus years.
Speaker 3: And it was basically telling me, though, take advantage of
Speaker 3: the opportunity. And when I did go back to court,
Speaker 3: they offered me a plea.
Speaker 1: Boggain, They just convicted you, but now they're offering you
Speaker 1: a plea. That kind of feels like they had a
Speaker 1: little bit of a guilty conscience maybe, like they knew
Speaker 1: this conviction was bullshit. So now Joseph Winston was off
Speaker 1: your case, you were transferred to jail, and a new
Speaker 1: public defender named Dwayne Struthers was assigned to your case.
Speaker 3: No, he came to see me and actually, I mean,
Speaker 3: would I be interested in taking a plea deal? You know,
Speaker 3: I told him no, less it to be time served,
Speaker 3: you know, because you know, I mean, I didn't do this,
Speaker 3: and that's what I'm explaining to him. He asked me,
Speaker 3: where if they were offered ten years to serve, would
Speaker 3: you be interested in that? And at the time, I
Speaker 3: had been in concentrated a little bit over five years,
Speaker 3: and I said, well, this five years it already did
Speaker 3: be included with this ten and he didn't know.
Speaker 1: So without a potential five year deal or time served,
Speaker 1: you were ready for a second chance to fight for
Speaker 1: your innocence in court, and that meant the state got
Speaker 1: a second chance too. So you were initially in protective custody,
Speaker 1: or the PC pod as it's known, and then you
Speaker 1: got transferred into the general population, where you made some
Speaker 1: new acquaintances, notably Ronald Brookins and Raymond Copeland.
Speaker 3: They tried to, you know, befriend me. So I had
Speaker 3: been in there with them maybe a couple of months,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden they put me back in
Speaker 3: this protective custody pod and Bookers and Copeland came to visit,
Speaker 3: and you know, they enticed them to lie. And I
Speaker 3: know you've read them. I've got the letters that they
Speaker 3: vote to the prostitutor and to Detective E. C.
Speaker 2: Hurris about so, mister Brooking says to the Commonwealth Attorney,
Speaker 2: mister Jamison. Hell O, mister Jamison, I'm hoping to find
Speaker 2: you and yours and the best of health, highest of.
Speaker 1: Spirits, the highest of spirits.
Speaker 2: And it's a crazy shit. I'm writing you in concern
Speaker 2: of the visit received from you. Today, I feel as
Speaker 2: if we did not reach a very clear understanding about
Speaker 2: having my jeep returned and the charges dropped. Now I'm
Speaker 2: waiting on an appeal. This you could stop. Just have
Speaker 2: the federal courts to withdraw their appeal and drop the case.
Speaker 2: I have never had a violent charge, so this should
Speaker 2: not be hard. I have gave my life to the Lord. Oh,
Speaker 2: and I'm willing to help you as best as I can.
Speaker 2: If I'm going to take the stand, I need to
Speaker 2: know my charges are being dropped. I just wanted to
Speaker 2: chance to start my newfound life in Christ over on
Speaker 2: the outside. If you give me another chance, I will
Speaker 2: not let you down.
Speaker 1: Sincerely, Yours in Christ, while I put my hand on
Speaker 1: the Bible, swear to tell the truth, and then lie
Speaker 1: my ass off to help the state ruin another man's life,
Speaker 1: just like Jesus would do. I mean, apparently, mister Brookings
Speaker 1: pretended to be a friend of Lorico's father, and then
Speaker 1: he took a look at Lorico's transcripts, all in this
Speaker 1: twisted attempt to concoct a believable alleged confession in exchange
Speaker 1: for his own charges being dropped. And the return of
Speaker 1: his jeep. And then along comes mister Brook and cellmate
Speaker 1: or blockmate Raymond Copeland.
Speaker 3: Raymond Copeland, he was sentenced to ten years. In the
Speaker 3: letter that he wrote to the prostitutal, he was seeking
Speaker 3: to have his ten year sinence cut to three, you know,
Speaker 3: for his testimony and basically saying he can be as
Speaker 3: convincing and moving as possible to help bury me, and
Speaker 3: also that he had testified in another murder case for
Speaker 3: this prosecutor.
Speaker 1: Before, right, so this is a trial tested bullshit artist.
Speaker 1: So let me please read from the letter mister Coplan
Speaker 1: wrote about the meeting he had with the Commonwealth's attorney
Speaker 1: just six days before his own proceedings Raymond Copeland.
Speaker 2: He says, I am writing in concern about our last meeting,
Speaker 2: which took place on January twenty eight, two thousand and three,
Speaker 2: where you mentioned not making any promises, and I can
Speaker 2: respect that, but perhaps we need to discuss my situation
Speaker 2: more clearly. I am participating in a double murder trial.
Speaker 2: I know others are involved that have a lot more
Speaker 2: time and more serious crimes than I do, so I
Speaker 2: want you to know I'm not trying to wait until
Speaker 2: I get to prison before my requests are granted. I
Speaker 2: was sentenced by Westbrook Parker, which you may be familiar with.
Speaker 2: I know from experience. If you can talk with Parker,
Speaker 2: who's the judge, I can get everything I've asked for.
Speaker 2: Because I'm not asking for much. I can't go to
Speaker 2: any prison because of possible retaliation for my testimony. Now,
Speaker 2: before I take the witness stand, all I'm asking is
Speaker 2: your word off the record. Please contact me and let
Speaker 2: me rehearse my testimony. And also I need to evaluate
Speaker 2: my situation as far as how I will be rewarded.
Speaker 1: Rehearse my testimony.
Speaker 2: Rehearse my testimony.
Speaker 1: There was also a third jail house snitch, Christopher Joiner,
Speaker 1: but we were unable to obtain any damning letters from him. However,
Speaker 1: in Virginia there's no parole, and Joiner's fifty four year
Speaker 1: sentence appears to have magically disappeared as he was released.
Speaker 1: In fact, years ago, he alleged that he overheard incriminating
Speaker 1: statements from Lrico while he was on the phone. So
Speaker 1: now that everyone was well rehearsed, you went back to
Speaker 1: trial in February two thousand and three. There was still
Speaker 1: no physical evidence tying Larco to the scene. Fingerprints that
Speaker 1: they believe would be probative just didn't match Larico, Kearney,
Speaker 1: so Bena north Leet, Travis Chuck, Casey Davis, and Tony
Speaker 1: Booth returned. So this much was exactly the same, minus
Speaker 1: the Fifth Amendment violation. And now there were three new
Speaker 1: lying jail house snitches. And in addition to their sentence
Speaker 1: reductions and letters to the Commonwealth Attorney, there were even
Speaker 1: more reasons to find their testimonies totally unreliable.
Speaker 3: Brookers testified that I said I kicked the door in,
Speaker 3: and that was known throughout the trial, like whoever had
Speaker 3: committed this crime, it was no force insurry, they knew
Speaker 3: the victims struggles. He did point that out, and the
Speaker 3: prostituted you just made up some bogus theory, like showed
Speaker 3: them a pitchure of a door in the back of
Speaker 3: the apartment, like look at their door, don't it look
Speaker 3: like somebody's trying to get out their doors?
Speaker 1: So clearly Brookins misunderstood the facts that he was post
Speaker 1: to regurgitate for the state. But what about Copeland.
Speaker 3: Copland's testimony was basically the same because they was in
Speaker 3: the same block, and of course they got together, you know,
Speaker 3: to go over what they were.
Speaker 1: Saying, including the same mistakes that proved they didn't know
Speaker 1: what the fuck they were talking about. Now, Christopher Joyner,
Speaker 1: he was in the protective custody pod with you because
Speaker 1: he was also cooperating on a number of other cases,
Speaker 1: which does not bode well for his credibility either. And
Speaker 1: he alleged overhearing you say incriminating things while on the phone. Now,
Speaker 1: you had taken a phone call while he was in
Speaker 1: earshot one day when you had returned from motion hearing
Speaker 1: in which you found out that Brookings and Copland were
Speaker 1: going to testify against you.
Speaker 3: My child was the start that Monday, and I found
Speaker 3: out that Friday. So when I came back, I used
Speaker 3: the phone. I called my stepfather, displaying it to him.
Speaker 3: You know what it happened to court and everything that,
Speaker 3: you know he heard me say on the phone, and
Speaker 3: my stepfather he wrote it down and put his own
Speaker 3: little twist and spin on it. He actually testified that
Speaker 3: I professed Brookings and Copeland about you know, me doing
Speaker 3: the murder. I was bragging or saying it out was
Speaker 3: like a O. J. Simpson it's just for some bogus
Speaker 3: stuff he was saying. It didn't even make sense.
Speaker 1: And like we mentioned, he too received a sentence reduction
Speaker 1: for his OJ Simpson references. Now, the defense called the
Speaker 1: Albi witnesses again your loved ones, as well as the
Speaker 1: pizza delivery person, in addition to other people who Copeland
Speaker 1: and Brookings had previously test the lie about. But the
Speaker 1: difference with this trial was Trayvon, who's now eleven years old,
Speaker 1: because five years had gone by. You called him to
Speaker 1: the stand to get him to recount what he had
Speaker 1: already said to his statements to police, which was a
Speaker 1: Gregory artist had murdered gene artists Andy von Giles right
Speaker 1: in front of him alone.
Speaker 3: I tried to call him as my witness at the
Speaker 3: second trial, and I'm trying to get him to testify
Speaker 3: to what he said, or at least get the statement
Speaker 3: presented to the jury. And know they excuse the jury
Speaker 3: and they did what you call the prophet and they
Speaker 3: placed them on the stand. He just said he didn't
Speaker 3: remember anything. Do you know. They showed him the statement
Speaker 3: and he, like I guess he may have been coached,
Speaker 3: but he just say he couldn't remember, and the judge
Speaker 3: said that I couldn't get the statement in to the
Speaker 3: juri because I couldn't have each of my own witness
Speaker 3: So it didn't allow the statement to get into the jury.
Speaker 1: And once again, the jury did not hear the most
Speaker 1: important witness statement, the one taken from the only eyewitness
Speaker 1: to the crime, just moments after it happened. Now, who
Speaker 1: knows if he was coached or coerced by the state
Speaker 1: or maybe by his own family. After all, Gregory Artist
Speaker 1: was his relative. It's even possible that the memory was
Speaker 1: so painful that the associative amnesia took over it. Either way,
Speaker 1: the jury didn't hear what we all know he had
Speaker 1: said right after he saw his uncle and mother fatally shot. Instead,
Speaker 1: the state pieced together, coerced or incentivized witness statements people
Speaker 1: with no knowledge or the crime. That's the state's case.
Speaker 1: That's it floating on the hope that the jury might think, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: they can't all be lying. And I understand the Commonwealth
Speaker 1: attorney did something that showed that they knew. You tell
Speaker 1: me what you think, but it seems like they knew
Speaker 1: how fraudulent this prosecution was. They passed a plea deal
Speaker 1: to your attorney, Dwayne Struthers. Even after all this.
Speaker 3: After the commawill presented the case, they asked him would
Speaker 3: not be willing to plead the second degree murder? And
Speaker 3: again I asked him, like, you know, how much tired
Speaker 3: of this curved? And from his actions, you know the
Speaker 3: way he looked at me, he wanted me to gamble
Speaker 3: with the jury that already had been convicted once. And
Speaker 3: I knew it was a possibility that, you know, I
Speaker 3: could get life in prison.
Speaker 1: Again, and your attorney didn't properly advise you about this,
Speaker 1: but second degree murderer carries a sentence of five to
Speaker 1: forty years, not life, not in Virginia.
Speaker 3: And I refused it. And here I am sinning again.
Speaker 3: You know, I get convicted again and ended up with life.
Speaker 1: I mean, it must have felt like deja vu all
Speaker 1: over again.
Speaker 3: It definitely did. I'm like, this can't be happening like
Speaker 3: a second time. It's like I just felt like defeated,
Speaker 3: and I know this time my fight would be a
Speaker 3: whole lot harder. It's very rare that you see anybody
Speaker 3: get three trials being convicted the second time. But it
Speaker 3: was hard going back to Wallas with I just can
Speaker 3: remember the ride that I had when my first trial
Speaker 3: was overturned and they turned me back to the jail.
Speaker 3: I was in tears for real because of the prison
Speaker 3: conditions and all the people that I'm gonna leave behind,
Speaker 3: Like I would never see this again. Guys, don't get
Speaker 3: these this opportunity that I'm about to get. And like
Speaker 3: I said, the whole ride back to that jail, I
Speaker 3: was untilled. I was like, this is the child that
Speaker 3: my life is over with. And it didn't happen that way.
Speaker 3: You know, me being convicted the second time is I knew.
Speaker 3: I knew my fight would be you know, a whole
Speaker 3: lot harder. Of course, I went through the litigation process,
Speaker 3: and my family later on down the line, you know,
Speaker 3: put out more money for me trying to get me out.
Speaker 3: I just always try to be positive and keep their hope.
Speaker 3: Like one day, like like Justin would prevail and I
Speaker 3: would be able to, you know, walk out these prison doors.
Speaker 1: That return trip to prison was February two thousand and three.
Speaker 1: It's now February twenty and twenty three and you're still there.
Speaker 1: But like you said, the fight is not over. Your
Speaker 1: first attempt was for ineffective assistance of counsel Dwayne Structles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, had a series of like this for their actions
Speaker 3: from the state bar like in two thousand and three.
Speaker 3: Then his license was suspended for two years in two
Speaker 3: thousand and six because you know, he failed to you know,
Speaker 3: communicate with his clients and you know, he didn't pursue
Speaker 3: cases diligently. So I was hoping when I found his
Speaker 3: habis claim against him, that they would overturn my case
Speaker 3: just based on the lack of competence of Dwayne Struthers.
Speaker 3: And I did get the evidentiary heard on Struggles's and
Speaker 3: competency because of them offered me the plea bargain for
Speaker 3: a second degree murdered and he didn't know how much
Speaker 3: time that it carried. The District Court granted to hear
Speaker 3: my issue on that claim back in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 3: But the thing where I didn't get into relief on
Speaker 3: that issue is because you know, the Commonwealth Attorney Philip Ferguson,
Speaker 3: the head Commonwealth attorney in Suffolk at that time, he
Speaker 3: testified that in Suffolk he has a policy that all
Speaker 3: prea botherins must be reviewed and signed by him, and
Speaker 3: he wasn't going to give the authorization. So that's why
Speaker 3: the judge then he didn't rule in my favor.
Speaker 1: And so that rendered the point moved, not that there
Speaker 1: aren't plenty of other points to raise it by that
Speaker 1: effective assistance, because at the second trial he did not
Speaker 1: point out that the only witness to the murder, young Trayvon,
Speaker 1: did not point you out in court. It seems like
Speaker 1: seeing you in court should have jarred something loose if you,
Speaker 1: in fact had killed his mother, but you didn't. And
Speaker 1: once again, the fact that none of the fingerprints taken
Speaker 1: from the scene that they felt were probitive, none of
Speaker 1: them were a match for you because you weren't there,
Speaker 1: But this was not raised, as was the fact that
Speaker 1: the fingerprints have never been tested against Gregory artists, which
Speaker 1: is insane. So, Lenny, I know you've been on this
Speaker 1: case since your release brought you to the Western branch
Speaker 1: of the John A. Cogshall Law Firm, And in another stunning,
Speaker 1: awful setback for this case, Attorney Cogashall, a legend in
Speaker 1: the innocence community and a friend to me and you
Speaker 1: guys and so many others, passed away suddenly in June
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. He rest in peace. So where does
Speaker 1: that leave Lorico's case?
Speaker 2: So once again, the law firm of Johnny Cogshaw filed
Speaker 2: Larco's petition on January fifth, twand I was twenty two
Speaker 2: to the Secretary of Commonwealth Office. That petition primarily dealt
Speaker 2: with the statements made by Trayvon Artists the day of
Speaker 2: the murders and the following day when they interviewed him again.
Speaker 2: Of course, we know there was no physical evidence that
Speaker 2: pointed to Lrico Kearney's guilt, and that Trayvon Artist definitively
Speaker 2: told the detectives who killed his mom and uncle. That
Speaker 2: was the foundation upon which this petition was established, along
Speaker 2: with the convicted felons who came forward with false testimony
Speaker 2: in order to get deals. And fortunately we were able
Speaker 2: to get an affidavit from mister Travis Chalk, who said
Speaker 2: he just wanted to clear his conscience, and he came
Speaker 2: forward and said it was all a lie. Everything he
Speaker 2: said was a lie. He didn't see Larrico Kearney with
Speaker 2: a gun, he didn't see Larico Kearney following Gene Artists.
Speaker 2: He was told exactly what to say by this detective
Speaker 2: when he went to court, and he said as much.
Speaker 1: In the petition also details everything you've heard here, the
Speaker 1: inconsistencies and contradictions between the false witnesses and between the
Speaker 1: statements and the facts of the crime. So what does
Speaker 1: the petition seek?
Speaker 2: A conditional pardon on behalf of Larco Kearney. His petition
Speaker 2: is a waiting review because of the long list of
Speaker 2: people who file before him. From what we've been told,
Speaker 2: they're so swamped that it's going to be a long process.
Speaker 2: So we're hoping to get as much airplay as possible
Speaker 2: for mister Kearney to hopefully change this wrongful conviction.
Speaker 1: Well, you have all of our support, and hopefully our
Speaker 1: audience will lend a hand as well. There's currently a
Speaker 1: petition alerting the governor of this wrongful conviction, pleading for
Speaker 1: his team to take notice of the grave injustice that
Speaker 1: this is. So please do it right now. Click the
Speaker 1: link in the episode bio and get involved. And now
Speaker 1: we go to my favorite part of the show. It's called,
Speaker 1: of course, closing arguments, where I first of all, thank
Speaker 1: you guys for being here and sharing this harrowing story.
Speaker 1: And then I'm going to turn my microphone off, leave
Speaker 1: my headphones on, kick back in my chair, and just
Speaker 1: listen to any closing thoughts you may have. So let's
Speaker 1: kick it off with Lenny and then close it out
Speaker 1: with Ulrico.
Speaker 2: Once again, we have a case where the only evidence
Speaker 2: that the Commonwealth has in a double murder is convicted felons.
Speaker 2: It's a sad state of affairs when we are putting
Speaker 2: people away for life based on convicted felons getting deals.
Speaker 2: It's time for us to do something, especially in the
Speaker 2: Commonwealth of Virginia. It's time for prosecutors to bear some
Speaker 2: of this weight for using convicted felons that they know
Speaker 2: have extensive criminal records and they know they're getting deals.
Speaker 2: It's time for the prosecution to possibly suffer as a
Speaker 2: result of this. I mean, it's the only way that
Speaker 2: I can see that this situation will ever change. It's
Speaker 2: a sad day that somebody like Lorico Kearney has been
Speaker 2: in the prison system for twenty five years or more
Speaker 2: for something he did not do. There is no evidence
Speaker 2: to support it. It's time for this to change.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would just like to say thank y'all
Speaker 3: for allowing me the opportunity to share my story with
Speaker 3: the world. Again, this is a situation that anybody can
Speaker 3: find theirself in. Anybody can come forward and just say
Speaker 3: you said anything, it's not right without the supporting evidence.
Speaker 3: But twenty five plus years in prison, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: still healthy. I still have hope that someday, you know,
Speaker 3: the justice will prevail and I will be able to
Speaker 3: walk out this prison and be with the people that
Speaker 3: love me, try to build a relationship with my children.
Speaker 3: I would like to see my daughter walk down an
Speaker 3: aisle and like I said, just want to, you know,
Speaker 3: just go out there and just be a pillow to
Speaker 3: my community and try to help others that may be
Speaker 3: lost so they won't end up in the same position
Speaker 3: that I'm in. Again, I just expressed my condolences to
Speaker 3: know the artist family what they have went through. You know,
Speaker 3: nobody deserve to die, but I shouldn't spend the rest
Speaker 3: of my life in prison based on you know, people
Speaker 3: trying to help their whole situations. And I'm just looking
Speaker 3: forward to today, Like I said, I'm released, and I
Speaker 3: feel in my heart that you know, Joseph pavailed and
Speaker 3: the right thing will be done. You know, my heart
Speaker 3: and my courage I'm just too big just to die
Speaker 3: in prison.
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